Free Discussion 5/23 - 5/29

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Tangerine Tanya said...

I knew there was a reason that I call Kate "Nasty Kate"

When she was potty training the tups she shows the viewers Alexis's poop. Thank goodness it is blotted over but...Kate say's "I know that some may think that it is gross but it is their HISTORY" then tells Alexis "Look here is your art work"

NASTY NASTY KATE!!!

InsideEnemyLines (HaHa!) said...

I have watched the show with my family from the beginning, including the first special. (No, my children don't sleep on the laundry room floor when they are sick and yes, they get to eat cupcakes on their birthdays!)

Honestly, I don't agree with a lot that is written on GWOP. (I think the kids have GREATLY benefited from the show! Yes, I know, most of you are horrified!) But, I do agree that Kate needs to chill.

Here's my theory on the current mess: I think the audience is being played. While I do believe there are problems in the marriage (hello? anyone watchng the show can see that!), I think it is being played up for ratings. When I saw the promos for Monday's show, I could just imagine TLC foaming at the mouth over the ratings. They are going to be HUGE. This might be the best thing, ratings wise, that ever happened to the show.

I think that TLC has taken bad PR and transformed it into a positive. I think Jon and Kate are making it sound worse than it is (their marriage). The drama sells the show, sells the mags, etc....

I don't think a divorce is in the works, but at least three more seasons are!

dani said...

I was a huge fan of the show waaay back when it started...but like most people here, I was mainly turned off because of Kate's attitude/demeanor.

I don't really have much sympathy for them since they created this life by allowing the cameras in. That being said, I saw the Season Primere Sneak Peak on TLC's website and it literally made me sad. Jon sounded so down...it reminded me of my past relationships when you're at the point where you know it's over but neither one of you wants to say it.

I just hope the kids will be okay.

Wendy said...

I would like to remind Kate Gosselin that she is not playing a mom on tv. Her show is not a sitcom. However, I do think her children are probably confused. They will probably grow up thinking Kate Gosselin is my tv mom and my real mom is the "not a nanny" that really takes care of me and my brothers and sisters. She keeps saying that this is her job. She probably thinks she is Maggie Seaver from Growing Pains. You know, an actress playing a working mom on tv. Kate's show is becoming more and more staged. There really is little reality left. It's becoming a show for Kate to portray a certain image for her audience.

Message to Kate: Don't be mad if at the end of the day you lose your children, husband and everything you built your "career" on. It didn't have to become the train wreck it is. People are not asking you to "lay down and die." They are trying to remind you that you have real children to take care of. Your tv show is not in their best interest. Is your "career" really worth losing everything of real meaning in your life? It's pretty pathetic that your only friends are paid bodyguards, managers and pr people. When people say you should end your show, you fail to realize it's in your best interest. Kate Gosselin it is in your best interest to stay home and enjoy time with your children. Take the time to comb their hair, hear about their day, take them for a walk on your huge property, read them a story or cook a meal with them. When they are older the moments they remember will not be the huge house or matching clothing, it will be that you weren't home to tuck them in at night. It will be that you sold them to the highest bidder and took the money to buy clothes, go to spas and tanning salons. They will remember that you put them on tv to benefit your material "wants" and didn't take care of their "needs." Kids don't need tons of money, they need your love and time. Being a mom doesn't end when they turn 4 years old, it's a daily relationship that never ends. Your 8 children are real people, stop exploiting them. You no longer have to worry if you'll have enough money to support them, you have it. Stop and relax. They need a mom. Be their "for real" mom and not their tv mom.

Commonsensical said...

When I saw the preview of the first episode; I noticed that during Jon's comments he says "our children" and during Kate's comments she says "my children". She has already abandoned that marriage. There are some blogs that are saying that they have, or will be going, to marriage counseling. But counseling only works when you want it to. She says that she is doing all this for her children and she will do everything for them and will not roll over and die. But she is only thinking of the money and desperately clinging to the money pit that is the show. The best gift she could give her children is a happy home - and clearly, that is not going to happen.

Additionally, her lack of introspection is staggering. While Jon is certainly not blameless, it is clear that she has no vision into the possibility that she may have driven him to stray and that her self righteous behavior is offensive and abusive. A true sign of character is being able to learn from your mistakes. She will never grow as a person and is doomed to repeat these flawed relationships with everyone she encounters. Watching her makes me angry, but then I realize that she is profoundly unhappy at her very core and will never experience true love or happiness if she continues on her current path; and it won't matter how many adorable little faces she has around her.

dolphinfoxx said...

remember everyone.....
DON'T WATCH ON MONDAY!!!!1

fadingnebula said...

Cameras turn game of life into life of games

I can remember when Jon and Kate Gosselin were the wholesome hope of reality TV. Never mind the narco-surrealism of The Osbournes on MTV or the trashy antics of E!'s Anna Nicole Show or those pandering "celeb-reality" freakshows on VH1. The Learning Channel held out the Gosselins as proof that reality TV could be, you know, educational.After two Discovery Health channel specials, the TLC show Jon & Kate Plus 8 premiered in 2007, presenting the Gosselins as an ordinary family faced with the extraordinary task of raising sextuplets on top of four-year-old twin girls. In the first two seasons -- consisting of eight and then 12 episodes -- the Pennsylvania couple was shown doing commonplace things. Against a backdrop of wailing children, they cut coupons and grocery shopped, toilet-trained toddlers, and dealt with the car-seat logistics of getting eight kids to the dentist.

As social scientists will tell you, however, observation always threatens to alter the thing you're observing. And in the rather sad case of Jon and Kate, this alteration involved not just a constant camera presence invading and distorting the everyday intimacies of family life, but big boatloads of money and fame. The reassuringly regular story about the Gosselin brood -- that Jon was out at work in the IT sector while Kate was at home with the kids; that their struggles were the usual middle-class round of paying bills and doing chores -- gradually became harder to sustain.

The years went by, with TLC increasing the number of episodes to 41 in the fourth season. Jon's employment status became vague, even as the family upgraded into a monster-big house. From seeming like a home that occasionally opened itself up for filming, the Gosselin household became a place where everyone, including the hapless children, was working at "the family job," as Kate has called it, of being Jon & Kate Plus 8. Increasingly, the episodes involved clunky product placements and fancy freebies like resort trips and spa treatments. When the celebrity perks extended to hair plugs for Jon -- early mid-life crisis, anyone? -- it was time to start worrying.

fadingnebula said...

The recent media spotlight on Jon and Kate has allowed the public to stand outside the reality TV cocoon and look in. We can now see the whole creaky machine of the Gosselins' "reality." Recently leaked photos of the sextuplets' fifth birthday party show not just kids and parents and Backyardigan piñatas, but the whole rigmarole of camera crew and production assistants and bored guys standing around with microphones. It doesn't help that Kate looks as if piñatas aren't the only thing she wants to whack with a stick.

And the family itself has changed. We always knew that Kate could be an uptight control freak and that Jon could be a passive-aggressive mumblemouth. These imperfections made them seem more endearingly real, somehow. But now Jon, who is unhappy with the family's celebrity status, has became the mute master of the 200-yard stare, while Kate's "teasing" of Jon has become increasingly snipey and hostile. Even on that teensy loveseat they use for their on-camera interviews, the two manage to look like they're very far apart. Anyone seraching for signs of their marital troubles only has to watch last season's reruns: In one episode Joel cries because Daddy has gone to the post office. Kate says to the camera, "He wonders if daddy's coming back. Maybe he knows something I don't."

Well, yeah. More and more viewers are tuning in to Jon & Kate not for education and uplift but for the usual reality-TV buzz of witnessing bad behaviour and diving into family dysfunction. As the fifth season premieres this weekend, people will be looking for evidence, taking sides, and speculating about which unhappy child will be grow up to write the tell-all autobiography.

So much for the kinder, gentler version of reality TV. Jon and Kate, we hardly knew you.

alison.gillmor@freepress.mb.ca

From http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/cameras-turn-game-of-life-into-life-of-games-45910222.html

TandLMommy28 said...

Great Kates! Fabulous haircuts inspired by Famous Kates...
http://lifestyle.msn.com/stylestudio/default.aspx#/Home/article/19544895/

Guess who didn't make the list? I guess her self-proclamation that "everyone wants it" aren't so true!

(This was on my MSN homepage this morning).

just wondering said...

Does anyone else think that Kate will insist that each child sign a confidentiality clause at the age of 18 under threat of disinheiritance?

I wouldn't put it past her, but I would think that anyone would have the right to speak as they wish about their own lives and could quite possibly sue for damages!

My other thought is that this marathon of shows may not really such a good thing for TLC. Quite possible that people are now looking at the shows with their eyes wide open and are questioning the little things they missed before and that new viewers will be searching for every little hint of malfunction.

Smoke and mirrors.

AnneMarie said...

Does anyone know why Jon said he can't have more children but she can??

(from a post a couple of days ago on another thread)

jmom said...

This is my first post on this blog although I have been reading it almost daily for months. As a former resident of E-town, I was fascinated when I first discovered the show, loved seeing people and places I recognized. I loved Kate's "honesty" and "spunk" until I started realizing that that's not what it was. I adored and still do, the kids. I think the Gumgate episode did it for me - you know, how could she trash Jodi like that? But I also realized that there were other moments that didn't show her at her best that I gave her the benefit of the doubt on. Taken all together, it tells a very different and disturbing story. Which is nothing new, many on here have had the same aha moment in regards to Kate's behavior and this whole show and situation.
My main impetus for posting was the poster who stated that it's probably not as bad as it seems (their marriage) and that it is being played up for ratings for TLC. Ok, let's say that's true. That's even worse then! Don't you think? That they would allow this slant on their marriage for RATINGS! Either way, it's sleazy and so horrible for their kids and family.

carolyn said...

I finally saw the preview the one that is being touted as JON AND KATE FACE TO FACE FOR THE FIRST TIME! It really made me sick to my stomach! I can not believe that these two are so sick and twisted to promoted the dysfunction that goes on between them. In my opinion, Jon getting caught with Deana was not a publicity stunt, but then KON ran with it just to get more ratings. I am so sick of these two!
Interesting story - my two coworkers were pro-Gosselin. I often tried to make them "see the light" but they wouldn't believe me. A couple of days ago one of them came up to me after reading magazine articles and seeing all the interviews on TV. She said "I can't believe you were right the whole time! I never knew all the background on them! The tides are turning IMO. KON is very deceptive to the average viewer, I was one of them but I saw them for what they are HORRENDOUSLY HORRENDOUS CON ARTISTS! I wish they would go away, and take care of their kids!

fadingnebula said...

Another great article:

They owe their celebrity solely to the freak of nature that produced eight (thankfully) healthy kids at once. They owe their lucrative livelihood to the fact someone thought it would make an interesting one-time documentary, and TLC jumped in and ran with it.

Now they owe it to their kids to pull the plug and stop exploiting them. But they won't do it. They'll let us watch their marriage disintegrate on air, let us see how these innocent little children react to the furor and the fighting, and they'll probably get more money per episode, because people like the Crazies will shamelessly watch what's been described as "a train wreck in the making."

From
http://www2.canada.com/windsorstar/news/sports/story.html?id=0b80474f-2988-4224-9281-3130a8b93c03

MayDay said...

Was watching the "tummy tuck" episode last night/early this morning. When Kate returned she said " I never want to miss another week of my kid's lives"
Oh you don't want to miss a week but two and three weeks out of the month is ok. Another lie from Kate.

Shoka's Snoot. said...

I'm seeing some of the early ones for the first time on the marathon, and it's shocking to see how Kate has changed in only two years.

I was nearly in tears during the very early American Girl episode. Kate spoke about how they couldn't afford much anymore, but they managed to get these special dolls for the older girls, and they all toasted each other with their lemonade or whatever at the American Girl cafe. It was sweet and touching. I also loved the episode where they went to ToysRUs, where each child would pick out a special present for their sibling. She had her control issues, yes, but she was basically a good mom who wanted to indulge her children when she could. She was also much more physically affectionate.

Two years and millions of dollars later, Kate rather smugly told her kids not to expect any Christmas presents because they had bought guard dogs for their estate. You know that they could afford to buy presents AND guard dogs for their estate, so what happened? Why had a previously controlling--but still warm and loving--mother become so cold?

I'm a teacher in the process of typing my final exams, so I give you some choices.

A: Kate was told by TLC to play up her witchiness, because it was considered funny. You know how sitcom characters sort of become parodies of themselves? (Like Fonzie did nothing but say "Ayyy" and hit the jukebox after a couple of seasons.)She puts on some mean act for the camera, but isn't that bad in real life.

B: Kate is worried that the kids are getting spoiled and is trying to toughen them up by not spending money on them, even though they have plenty of it. She seems harsh, but means well in her way.

C: Kate is trying to act poor in front of the camera--oh, pooor us, we can't afford gifts and guard dogs! She's trying to hide how much money she has to spend.

D: Kate is a horrible person who enjoys showing her power by denying people things.

I imagine most people here would choose D, but I really hope it's one of the other choices--though I kind of think it's D, too.

Jodie said...

just wondering said...
Does anyone else think that Kate will insist that each child sign a confidentiality clause at the age of 18 under threat of disinheiritance?

I wouldn't put it past her, but I would think that anyone would have the right to speak as they wish about their own lives and could quite possibly sue for damages!

My other thought is that this marathon of shows may not really such a good thing for TLC. Quite possible that people are now looking at the shows with their eyes wide open and are questioning the little things they missed before and that new viewers will be searching for every little hint of malfunction.

Smoke and mirrors.

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I'm watching the July 4th episode from 2007 right now and came here to say the exact same thing. Right now, Kate is having a meltdown because it's cold and the kids need to cover their matching outfits with non-matching sweatshirts. I saw through her from the beginning, but I really hope people watch this marathon with a new set of eyes.

RainyDaisy said...

I think that one of the most unfortunate effects of Jodi and Kevin being out of the picture is that the kids are being subsequently cut off from their cousins. I remember in one of the episodes, Jodi was saying how Mady was absolutely crazy about one her baby cousins, Benny was it? She said that she treated him like one of her kids and was so nurturing and loving. Mady needs love more than ever right now. This is probably outlandish and out there, but I can't help but think about it: one of the top reasons why many teenage girls become pregnant is so that they will have someone that loves only them, and someone all their own that they can love. She expressed this in the puppy episode as well when she said that she wanted a puppy that would love only her. Poor Mady. I used to think she was an ungrateful brat, but I truly feel for her now and worry about her. I wish that her mother would pay attention to her kids' needs instead of worrying about some stupid book tour. I hope that when she using all this money to pay for her kids' therapy she will think that this was all worth it.

Season 5? said...

8 Good Reasons for not watching Monday night (or ever after...)

1. Mady, Cara, Joel, Colin, Aaden, Leah, Hannah and Alexis don't have a choice about their actions, reactions and interactions being displayed for the world to gawk at.

2. Their parents have said they assume the kids don't know what's being said about the family in the media, internet, etc.

3. Your viewing will encourage TLC to film more episodes. (They know you're watching if you watch on cable)

4. Your viewing will give more money to Jon and Kate to squandor

5. It all seems really staged and fake. Yet the kids seem real and genuine. How confusing for them.

6. Do you want to encourage TLC and other networks to make more shows with children in it?

7. Do you find Kate and Jon's behavior disturbing?

8. Why bother watching if you know it will make you mad?

foxforce5 said...

BIGGER CHAIR?
Just noticed something as I was watching some old reruns of the show last night. The 'big chair' that J & K do their interviews in appears to have gotten much larger. Either that or they have both lost a lot of weight. The older episodes show them almost smooshed together, now in the upcoming season, it looks like you could fit another person between them. Clever marketing or am I wrong? What do you think?

I said...

I saw the episode yesterday that showed video from there wedding, where Jon said it was a great wedding and of course Kate said it was a budget wedding since they had to pay for it themselves.

What stood out, though, was on the honeymoon video, besides the fact she acted like an airhead, on the flight, I'm still alive, it's ok, I like the clouds, was the clip where she said We're going shopping...we're going to buy more stuff!!

What a prelim of things to come. She's always been about "Stuff" and now she has lots of it, but no marriage and little time with her kids.

delilahboyd said...

Great point, Just Wondering! I didn't really pay attention to Kate's horrible behavior until a few months ago, when the lavish trips & perks suddenly seemed totally ridiculous for a so-called "normal" family.

Now, I even find Kate's face too weird to watch for very long. There is no humility whatsoever visible in this woman's face. She acts like she thinks she's the most beautiful woman on the planet, when her congenital double-wide philium (the area between her nose and upper lip) and her annoying dental problems (uncorrected under & side bite) make her just another average-looking woman. Those two minor physical flaws would go unnoticed if she had even an ounce of kindness in her soul.

Of course, when you add that hairdo, all bets on her looks are off.

sueshe said...

What I can't get over is the picture of the kids at the birthday party, hitting the pinata. You can see the crew of TLC, plus the boom hovering over the kids. I am just blown away by that image. It is something I would not want my kids to remember, as birthdays are suppose to be family, friends and fun, fun, fun. Not of camera crews and paparazzi. It is sad that the ones who really care about these kids, like Jodi & Kevin, mom and dad, etc. are absent. These kids also have to deal with a mother who has so many hang ups that are not normal. And they will remember that, I assure you.
I had a mother who did things in similar fashion to Kate, and I absolutely to this day, resent her for her lack of participation in my life, and lack of things that I was not allowed to do.
I heard Jon mention in the preview that school friends were invited to the birthday. From what I saw, the kids looked much older than 5 year olds. Interesting.
I wonder if Kate just didn't want to hold the birthday at the house. She doesn't want kids to mess it up.
One other note...I have never seen a person post so many "post its" all over the house. That is a sign of a person who wants total control.
She must be a real bear to live with, and I certainly would not want to cross her path.
Day 2 of the marathon. Enough, is enough, is enough, enough, enough, enough......You get the picture!!!
Now I am going to sit back and read the newest issue of US Weekly, and the story of "Mom to Monster"...

Mommy in PA said...

Here's a video on the recent news about Jon & Kate's issues/cheating/scandals - this one comes from ABC! It also has an interview with the parents of the Harris sextuplets (who also have one older child), as well as with a parenting expert/specialist. Video runs about 6 minutes:

http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/13601866

goldengirl said...

People, please don't watch. Any of it. Reruns and the 5th season. It's really the only way to make it go away. Otherwise you're just reinforcing negative behavior.
Just Say No! and walk away. It's the best thing for you and the best thing ultimately for the kids.

stunned said...

Jennifer D said on 5/22/2009 1:15 PM, "Did you see another segment? Correct me if I am talking about the wrong one."
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Hi Jennifer,

We saw the same GMA spot. ITA the guest's overall tone was consistent with what we say on this blog, but she lost me when she said something about Jon "acting out" towards the very end.

My main point was really about the segment's timing. Even the expert's seemingly negative comments about the show were still publicity--coming 3 days before the season premier. Disney, as a KON sponsor and owner of the ABC network, would benefit if people tuned in.

Marketingthekids at 5/23/2009 7:10 AM made some great points about the astute marketing going on. IMHO, I bunch all the recent publicity together as no more than a push for ratings.

I hope people don't fall for it.

unseasy said...

What I find puzzling about this media frenzy is the idea that marital infidelity is perceived as a worse crime than child exploitation. I could not care less about who and when and why the adults involved are cozy and sexual with. Perhaps if I believed they were living the idyllic "American" dream marriage, maybe I would be disappointed. But I never believed that, nor cared. I find it hard to think anybody would.

But my point really is that it is obvious to me the children are being used as pawns in a get rich quick scheme. When I read some of the pro-Gosselin comments in the articles being posted now, there is often the idea that "Kate and Jon ARE good parents, look how cute and sweet and well-behaved the kids are, well, except for Mady." If that isn't child exploitation, I don't know what is. That one child, a real child, is being portrayed as "bad" on TV and getting negative attention in the public arena that is permanently recorded on the Internet would be reason enough (for me, in any case) to stop the show right there. But it seems to me that this child has been singled out to build drama for the show, and that negative portrayal is deliberately emphasized for ratings. These are young defenseless children, and any parent who does not protect them from negative attention in the public eye has to be exploitative. The thought that they are being used as fodder for ratings (intentionally or not, negatively or not) repulses me, exponentially more so than any allegations of infidelity.

mama22girls said...

Here's the thing. If Jon and Kate agreed to include the marriage counseling as part of the show, that's fine. I am going to be completely honest here. If I was already in the public eye, my marriage was falling apart, and people were offering me free counseling and 75,000+ per episode to air it. Maybe I would agree to have it televised. I'm being honest.

But there is one catch, I would never ever ever in a million years do it if my husband and I had conceived a child, let alone eight children!

As snarky and witty Kate is played up to be on the show, she isn't the brightest person in the world. And I really don't think she understands the extent of the damage she has caused in terms of long term effects in her children's lives, especially the twins. And don't even get me started on the sextuplets.

I only pray that when this whole thing comes crashing down on her, she handles it with grace, reflection, and patience. I pray that she is able to refocus on her children and RAISING them not just making money.

And lastly, I would bet a lot of money that none of these children are going to attend Ivy League colleges after working so hard and being forced to rake in millions. She is going to keep all of that money for herself.

Janet said...

I'm going to be curious to see if there's a change in what sponsors TLC gets for the show now that the Jon and Kate no longer can pretend to embody Christian family values.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Of course I am not going to watch, but I am interested in knowing what the new interview set is like. Are they sitting together or separately?

Also, Kate sells herself as "Mother extraordinare". Maybe the publicity will help the show, but the truth, how things are really run, will not help her with any of her outside ventures. Finally, the kids are not well behaved. They are always crying and hitting each other. The only times they behaved are when they are threatened with physical punishment or bribed.

Carrie said...

Kate's nasty personality was played up by TLC. She is their Omarosa, their "bad girl".

The chair was probably purposely made bigger to make each of them seem so small, so sad, since they are in it alone now. Now you can really see how lonely and empty they are without each other. When everything is neatly tied up with a bow, they will both be back together on that chair.

If anyone watches the "Babies and bedrooms, at noon and 12:30, listen to the conversation Kate has with the camera about wanting Jon to "be home with them". You could almost see the wheels spinning in her devious little head.I think this is when she negotiated with TLC to pay them more if Jon quit his job (not Jodi). I think Jon did not work after this since this is when they really became popular.

momtomonster said...

Can some scan the article of From Mom to Monster or post a link to a scan?

SaNdY said...

RainyDaisy said...
I think that one of the most unfortunate effects of Jodi and Kevin being out of the picture is that the kids are being subsequently cut off from their cousins. I remember in one of the episodes, Jodi was saying how Mady was absolutely crazy about one her baby cousins, Benny was it? She said that she treated him like one of her kids and was so nurturing and loving. Mady needs love more than ever right now. This is probably outlandish and out there, but I can't help but think about it: one of the top reasons why many teenage girls become pregnant is so that they will have someone that loves only them, and someone all their own that they can love. She expressed this in the puppy episode as well when she said that she wanted a puppy that would love only her. Poor Mady. I used to think she was an ungrateful brat, but I truly feel for her now and worry about her. I wish that her mother would pay attention to her kids' needs instead of worrying about some stupid book tour. I hope that when she using all this money to pay for her kids' therapy she will think that this was all worth it.
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ITA, after the first few times I saw Mady having a rough time, and Kate just attributing it to low blood sugar, it broke my heart that she had no one to help her with her feelings...and yes, Mady loved Benny, Jodi said that his first smile was for Mady...I have also commented recently that Mady needs a role model like Jodi or Beth, now and especially as she approaches those turbulent teen years...I think you are right in thinking about what could happen down the road with the way Mady feels about wanting someone to love just her, that spoke volumes to me when I heard her say that...I feel badly for all the kids, it breaks my heart to see what is happening to them...

Stacey said...

I had my partner block TLC from our cable this weekend so I wouldn't be tempted to watch and throw my blood pressure through the roof. I'm a new mom and seeing someone like Kate - who's supposed to be a role model - treat her husband, children and people in general like she does is just horrific.

I worry about those kids. I worry about them now, in 10 years as teenagers and in 15 years as adults. Imagine what kind of life view they're going to have when they're out in the world as adults - they will have grown up thinking they can have whatever they want, that they can treat people like they're dirt, that they should always be the centre of attention.

I don't know if stopping the show now would do any good - these children have spent so long in front of cameras, how would they react if they weren't there anymore? Is there a child psychologist on the production staff to help the children deal with things? Is there anyone - besides their parents and the production crew - to help these kids be 'normal'?

It just breaks my heart... it really does.

Ava's Mommy said...

Unconfirmed reports emanating from the blog world suggest Kate Gosselin, star of Jon and Kate Plus 8 and What Hairstyle Is That?, has asked for two more seasons of the TV show that documents her life to be agreed to by cable station TLC.

The price she'll have to pay for that deal? Agreeing to go to marriage counseling with her seemingly estranged husband Jon, according to the National Enquirer.

The Florida-based tabloid is reporting TLC insiders say Gosselin initially refused counseling completely, despite the shambolic state of her marriage, but agreed to the sessions only if she would get another two seasons of TV fame.

Negotiations to get TLC's cameras in on the sessions for use on the show itself are reportedly underway.

The new season of Jon and Kate Plus 8, in which Kate complains about all the attention her family gets from the press while being paid $75,000 per show to parade her family on television, starts Monday night.
© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun

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not suprised one bit after hear this. Just like everything that has been said..

This whole show/family is just in it for $$$$, Fame, Riches, Frebbies, Attention and Recognition.

Would you want your parents story to be broadcast to the whole world? Or even your story to be broadcast around the world about your marriage? I dont think so.. Who would really want their dirty laundry out in a line everyone could look at.. Kate would..

This will be a horrible mistake on her behalf. If this happens her children are greatly going to be scrutinized.

Stop the hate drop the Kate TLC...

thehazlettfamily said...

Are you kidding me? Now E! is doing a special on Jon & Kate. Jon & Kate, Twisted Fate. Friday night at 8 p.m. This is getting more ridiculous by the day.

MichelleS said...

OH lordy be! People.com star tracks photos, theres a pic of Kate on the back of a motorcycle with the guy Paul from American Choppers! I thought she didnt like riding anything like that nor is she an outdoorsy person. Lord have mercy..I want to start writing to People and tell them enough of already..

Jackelynn said...

I've been lurking on this site for quite some time now, and while I always saw how all your theories could very well be true there was a part of me that was just hoping for the kids sake that you guys were just overanalyzing things.

It's so incredibly sad to me that not only were all you guys right, but it seems to be worse then any of us could even imagine.

I'm 19, and I couldn't even now imagine living such a lie like these kids are being forced to do. I feel for all of them, can you imagine the ridicule these poor kids are getting/going to get at school?

On that note, all this coverage of the Gosselins lately really bugs me. Someone already posted something from my local newspaper here (the Winnipeg Free Press) and lately driving to work in the mornings the people on the radio have been discussing them a lot. They've been on tabloid after tabloid lately and this needs to stop! It's exactly what Kate wants, and people need to stop feeding into her ego. I'm glad Jodi and Kevin were given an outlet to express the truth though, because I think they're confession is what's finally going to break this show for good.

Doris said...

this is a nice video, "the evolution of crazy" as the author says
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCRRXNjGm5w&feature=channel_page
sorry if it was already posted here

sade said...

I have only to say to TLC if you are monitoring this website that you have lost the repect and viewrship of many for one show called Jon and Kate. I must say that I now purposely trying to avoid watching anything on TlC, even if it may be something I might enjoy.
Jon and Kate will soon be yesterday's news, and your company is jepordizing all your other shows, that many may find quite enjoyable. TLC, maybe I am in the minority right now, but sooner then you think all your time and effort spent on one show will have cost you. Your lack of interest into the opinions and concerns of
many viewers willeventually cost you ratings. TlC you are known to me to be exploiting children with of course the help of their parents. I am telling everyone in my family and friends not to tune in to this show and if possible watch other cable channels that do not exploit children. SEE YA!!!!!!!!

SaNdY said...

Part of the comment by Ava's Mommy from the Vancouver Sun :

'The new season of Jon and Kate Plus 8, in which Kate complains about all the attention her family gets from the press while being paid $75,000 per show to parade her family on television, starts Monday night.'
© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun
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Priceless!

monica in pa said...

Okay let me try this again. Sorry mods, I totally forgot about the no address rule as I was just so excited I had finally found the answer to a much asked question on the boards.

I watched a rerun epi where Kate got her hair done and noticed the name of the business next door. I googled that business to get their address. From there, I googled hair salons on that street. I went down them one at a time until this one jumped out because the address makes sense and the stylists name is Diane.(her name was mentioned on the epi)

Diane's Hair Designs in Harrisburg, PA

we said...

On the 4th of July eppi is showed Jon and Kate riding a three wheeler WITH HELMETS! Now the latest is riding a Harley without a helmet(s)....WTF?

Laura said...

When did it all turn?
When and why did Kate turn into a monster?

I'm asking because I was watching episodes from 2007 and Kate was actually likeable then. Jon was actually participating in the couch interviews. It just seemed like things were all good. Hectic but good.

It's just so sad.

SaNdY said...

If this season of the show features Jon & Kate seeing a marriage counselor, what's next season gonna be?? Child psychologists for each of the 8 kids?? Actually, I would love for that to happen but in PRIVATE...not for all to see...

glenda said...

If you go over to justjared.com there is a picture of Kate on the back of the OCC chopper. She isn't wearing a helment. Go to the comment section they are tearing her apart!
Also I totally agree the marathon of shows was NOT in the best interest of Jon and Kate or should I say in Kate's best interest. Because now people will be able to see how nasty she really is.

I WON'T WATCH! said...

I'm curious. How many of you will NOT BE WATCHING Monday night?

I won't!

Donna R. said...

I have been spending my Saturday morning, messing around on the internet, and I came accross something a little interesting. It's not really anything important, or relevant to recent events, but I found it kind of amusing. I read on this blog before that Kate was practically obsessed with the McCaughey Septuplets when she was a teenager. I find it interesting that two of the McCaughey's are named, Joel and Alexis. Coincidence?

Janet said...

I am not watching on Monday night. I refuse to play along with their games. I am convinced this is all contrived for ratings.

I did however accidently land on a repeat of the carnival bday epi. While in the garage with Beth and Carla (?) making signs, Kate was struck by a brilliant idea...I should CHARGE....next year, I should put on a carnival and CHARGE people..... It's very easy to miss, I don't remember it the first time around, but knowing all I know now, I catch all these true telling signs of hers.

I am disgusted.

Val said...

I would love to see Aaden say to Kate "You can't eat your birthday cake because you are not a good mommy"

Mommy in PA said...

The Disney episode is playing right now on the marathon, and what a difference a few years makes. You can see other people around the park, and the kids have to get off the rides so other poeple can take a turn. Kate is interacting with the children more, and has some regret that she can only sit with one child on the rides and must watch the others on the same ride from her seat on the ride. Besides the ice cream freak out, it is a decent episode and they still seem like a family who cares about each other. You can still see Kate & Jon on the interview chair joking with each other. It's just so different to all the freebies they get now, and going to amusement parks & other places which will shut down and/or send other people away from areas where the Gosselins are. And then over the course of time was Kate's gradual increase in nasty attitude and increased need for control (well, she's always been controlling, but early on it seems she was capable of being laid back at least some of the time). It really makes you wonder that if they had not done the show in the first place, then maybe the marriage wouldn't have gotten so bad due to the fame, or maybe they would at least be more willing to work out their problems if the $$$ wasn't such a factor in all this.

Ohio Mom said...

check these pix out of jon riding a motorcycle and Kate on back of bike with paul sr from american chopper http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=05&evt=gosselin-biker&pic=kate-gosselin-biker-babe-10.jpg chopper

tinaplus3 said...

new article just posted today(sorry if already on here)about their upcoming season. http://www.celebuzz.com/kate-gosselin-everythings-falling-apart-s107971/#comments

PattyWithNoPity said...

While it is a holiday weekend and it will be winding down by Monday night..
I know that watching their show is the last thing I would want to see..sounds like a Jerry Springer show to me with the fake face-to face "marriage counseling".
Why would I want to see that??
I plan on tuning in to A & E for the season premiere of Intervention & series premiere of Obsessed.
Real programs that help real people...And I won't be recording.
I haven't watched J/K for some time..repeats included..

Sandy said...

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I just saw this when I was setting my DVR for the week. Next Friday (5/29), E! will air "E! News Special: Jon & Kate: Twisted Fate". 10:30 PM Eastern time. Should be interesting...

just wondering said...

I'm hoping for a really great recap of Monday's show from someone since I won't be watching.

Observing more than two minutes of Kate is detrimental to my own mental health and it is becoming increasingly difficult for me to refrain from throwing something at my TV.

It would also be beneficial to obtain a list of advertised and unabashedly promoted products from the new season as I will need to update my list of boycotted items and voice my disdain to these pathetic partners in crime.

Marriage counseling for the two of them should be deemed more PR and of little consequence. Kate is done with Jon. She hasn't called him "honey" or "babe" in more than a year. Always Jon. Can't tell you the last time I used my husband's first name when speaking to him directly, so to me it's quite telling.

My first gut reaction was that therapy may have been Jon's idea originally, but that TLC jumped on it as a terrific way to sell the new season and try to keep it running in a new and fresh direction. I don't think this is quite what Jon had in mind, but he is roadkill now and completely dispensable.

I'm thinking that we may begin to see a "softer and kinder" Kate sometime soon as her PR team desperately needs to create a more likeable image for her. But it won't last for more than a nano-second here and there (unless they actually begin to write dialogue for her!) because you can't change this cat's spots.

Millions of people have been through therapy and anything remotely contrived or sanitized will be spotted and scrutinized
immediately.

Hundreds and thousands of sheeple eyes have been opened and they will be watching with a fresh and different view from now on. Jon and Kate can't fake their way out of this one. You can't scam the public without a public outcry.

These kids are being isolated from extended family in a way that screams captivity to me and I really wish the media would focus on that instead of the fake marriage. Children of narcissistic parents don't usually survive as healthy individuals. They are nothing more than circus animals displayed for the public and then put back in their cages until the next performance.

Smoke and mirrors...

SundayRose said...

Here you are MomtoMonster, per your request, this is a scan of the Us Magazine article. To read it, simply enlarge the scan by clicking on the Page Icon at the top of your screen and zoom in at least 125%.

http://preesi.lefora.com/2009/05/21/us-mag-scans-june-1-2009/page1/

bellemoon said...

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/kate-gosselin-admits-everythings-falling-apart/22903
Just posted on Yahoo....and some of the comments (notwithstanding the spam "Just saw her on XXX dating site) echo the sentiments here. I wonder if Kate is finally beginning to realize that her life is beginning to crash around her ears?

carolyn said...

I did however accidently land on a repeat of the carnival bday epi. While in the garage with Beth and Carla (?) making signs, Kate was struck by a brilliant idea...I should CHARGE....next year, I should put on a carnival and CHARGE people..... It's very easy to miss, I don't remember it the first time around, but knowing all I know now, I catch all these true telling signs of hers.

------------------------------

I caught that comment about CHARGING neighbors for the carnival too, a while back. It shows what Kate is all about MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY! It's sad.

Val said...

Over and over Jon and Kate are moaning and groaning all over TLC.

Kate-I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders. It feels like my whold world is crumbling down.

Jon- I might as well be in prison.

The only thing that is missing is the violin.

How dare they b***h and moan when so many people are going through such hardships.Deaths,illness,missing children,unemployment and the list goes on.

What spoiled BRATS they are and NO I WONT BE WATCHING!!!

Tess said...

dlisted has some pictures up of Kate getting a free pink scooter from the American Chopper guys. They titled the story on her, "Big Bitch On A Bike," lol.

http://dlisted.com/node/32199

sigh said...

just read the D-listed article and looked at the pictures. Kkate, you look so effing stupid. What a fame whore you are. You are an embarrassment to this entire country.

delilahboyd said...

Speaking of those old episodes on this weekend...

Did anyone else catch Kate's claim, to the maids she was interviewing, that she scrubbed the kitchen and dining room floors three times a day on her hands and knees?

What a way to avoid spending time taking care of your kids!

Have you watched those "Gosselin Ugly Moments" YouTube videos?

Eye opening! Start with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGY4plKPM8&feature=channel

that'senough said...

I'm really glad to see how many people say they won't be watching Monday. I know I won't. I really believe that this is going to get worse before it gets better because of all the people who will be tuning in to watch this train wreck. Eventually it will end, I'm not worried about that, but it makes me sad that so many will watch and they will keep this train rolling, even if it is rolling right over 8 little children.

I haven't watched in a long time-there are no two people on earth I would rather not spend time with, on tv or in person, than Jon and Kate.
The first show I ever saw was the Utah trip and when Kate had her melt down, I couldn't believe I was watching a mother in a stressful situation require her children to comfort HER.
When she reflected on her behavior in the interview chair and concluded that her behavior was actually a service to the other adults around her because they all wanted to cry and she gave them the gift of doing it for them, I knew right then this was a woman with some serious issues.
She acted like an incompetent brat but saw herself as a savior!
I watched a couple more times and only got that suspicion confirmed. I wondered if anyone else was seeing what I was seeing and found this blog-and yes, you were!
My interest for months now has only been who is going to be the hero for these children? Who is going to step up and say "this has to stop". I was sure there would be someone.
I knew it wasn't going to be Kate. She is loving the attention and the money. I would be sad for her if it weren't so tragic for the kids that she is so morally corrupt that she considers time lost with their mother, a healthy and stable home environment and the right to dignity and privacy "small sacrifices" her children are making in exchange for the material items they are recieving.
I know that family members have tried to stop this, I firmly believe that's what has caused the estrangements in this family. Anyone who loves these kids can see this fish bowl existence is sick and wrong and Kate has made clear she "Will not stop" No matter what, she will have money and the things it can buy and she would rather have that than any thing else in this world.
As the kids grow, they will know who cared about them and who did not, and I sincerely believe they will one day be able to redeem the family relationships their mother sold.
The family can voice their concerns, but they can't stop her.
The children's fate lies in the hands of someone who will choose integrity over money. It's clear TLC won't pull the plug for the sake of the children's welfare-they would have done so before now if that were ever to be a motivator. I hoped maybe for the integrity of their own company's reputation -and the fact that they have other families in the line up willing to be exploited for cash - would cause them to end this. Apparently their greed, too, is bottomless and their sense of right and wrong non existent.
I really thought the kids father might be their hope. Even with the reports of his cheating, I thought that might be a sign that Jon was getting ready to pack up and get his kids safely away from the horrible predators who see dollar signs where visions of healthy futures ought to be.
And then I saw the pictures of those two idiots on the motorcycles.
I don't know which sickens me more-Kate grinning like a cheshire cat in heels after she totally betrayed her marriage and family by defending only herself in a major magazine, or Jon riding along behind her, apparently happy to exchange all dignity and pride-his and his children's- for the ridiculous things he has traded them in for.
I hope the cameras aren't still rolling if he ever realizes it wasn't worth it. That's going to be ugly.

The only hero in this story is Kate's hair stylist. Somehow, she has managed to con the ultimate con artist in to believing that her ridiculous hair style is not only flattering but admired-and she gets paid for it!

SaNdY said...

Val said...
Over and over Jon and Kate are moaning and groaning all over TLC.

Kate-I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders. It feels like my whold world is crumbling down.

Jon- I might as well be in prison.

The only thing that is missing is the violin.

How dare they b***h and moan when so many people are going through such hardships.Deaths,illness,missing children,unemployment and the list goes on.

What spoiled BRATS they are and NO I WONT BE WATCHING!!!
**********************************

ITA Val!!! So true, they are whining and complaining about how horrendously horrendous their life has become...Kate says 'everything is falling apart' Who started this whole mess Einstein??? Geeez!

RILEY said...

OMG!!! Just saw the NEW preview for Monday's episode. What I found REALLY funny was they were talking about how people follow them everywhere. The you see TWO people running after them taking pictures. TWO!!!!!!!!!! Yeah you're really a star Kate!! What I predict is that the ratings will be high and we still won't know anymore than we do right now about them. I wish Kate PR people would give her the idea to be interviewed by someone like Matt Lauer or another news person like that. Better yet I SO wish she would go on Nancy Grace now THAT would be worth watching!!

IH8K8 said...

I had heard that the Tuttles were spotted at the Konpound. Must be true.

I've heard this rumor twice now, locally, and I was wondering if any other locals could chime in with any knowledge. What I heard was, that the doctor who sold the house to Jon and Kate is/or is considering suing them due to Kate going on and on about how filthy their house was on national tv. It's no secret around here whose house it was, so it had to be pretty embarassing and possibly detrimental to him professionally.

Merile said...

There is a man asking people to pick a prayer time to pray for the Gosselins:

http://richardtgarner.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-can-honestly-say-jon-is-my-best-friend.html

Sulmith said...

I'm not planning to watch any new shows, or old shows, for that matter, but I have a request of anyone who does plan to watch. (And no, I won't judge you for doing so.)

I would like a list of all the national sponsors who run commercials during the show so that I can write some snail mail letters of complaint.

If someone could please take notes and post them here in the most recent and appropriate comment section, I would be most appreciative.

Allissa said...

Haven't had time to read all above posts, so sorry if this is a repeat. The E! channel is doing one of their "investigative" shows (the name escapes me now) next Friday at 10pm on KON! I am really wondering how much of this mess is PR. Kate is a fame whore bitch and may have decided she can get all kinds of exposure by keeping her "marriage troubles" in public view.
I, TOO, PLEAD wih everyone. Do not watch Monday night. Don't give them the ratings. The couple that do watch on here can give excellent recaps. We won't miss anything.
There's damgage control spin in "People" again this week. Kon is reaping the attention.

We Despise Kate said...

For whoever is counting not watchers -- I'm another not watching and won't be watching TLC at all until Kon is off the air.

But I am having dreams involving my sorority sisters and myself chasing down Kate. Some of us have big red spoons and others have electric razors. You get the drift.

Looking4Episode said...

Does anyone know where I can watch the premiere on youtube? I really want to see the HOT MESS that is KON, but I don't want to bump their ratings (or buy the episode on iTunes). Thanks!

disgusted in nj said...

Caught some of the first episode yesterday. In that Kate says that the tups were born at 29 weeks. She, also, says that she was put on bedrest at 7 weeks.

In all the hype that they have been producing these past few weeks we have her saying that she was on bedrest for 30 weeks.

This means that she was on bedrest before she even became pregnant.

There is a saying, "If you are going to lie, you better have a good memory." Guess that she is rewriting the rules for herself!

wramblinwreck said...

American Chopper at the Konpound? WTF?? This show has truly jumped the shark! In a few of the photos on d-listed, some of the kids are shown with their parents standing next to one of the choppers, and the kids look totally bewildered. Another photo shows poor little Joel with his bike, looking so forlorn off to the side of the film crew filming Kate and Paul Sr. Kate: "Stay away Joel! I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeMille."

uneasy said...

I took TLC off my cable line-up. I refuse to pay to have access to that channel.

lovethosekids said...

From the pics on D listed of Kate in the pink top, I'm 99% sure she has breast implants. This opinion is from someone who had implants for over 3 yrs., and then had them removed. Her rack looks exactly like implants.

sick of theTLC machine said...

I don't mean to be a pain in the rear, but it really doesn't matter if you watch the show on Monday or not.. unless you are a "Nielsen's family. Those are the people who shoudn't watch. They are the ones who control ratings.

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/portal/site/Public/menuitem.55dc65b4a7d5adff3f65936147a062a0/?vgnextoid=1204c00e606c5010VgnVCM100000880a260aRCRD

What we can do is boycott the companies and products that air commercials during the show.

If you know a "Nielsen's family" appeal to them to keep TLC off of their TV Monday nite.

Thanks!!

beachgirl said...

The original episode was on TLC last night and I almost cried watching it! To see where they were and where they are now and all that has happened made me really sad. I was at a book signing in PA about 30 minutes from where J and K live back when I was a fan of her! My daughter drew her a picture which she actually graciously accepted but my girlfriend who worked at the bookstore said Kate was very cold and demanding.
It really is a shame...
The whole bizarre thing is the eye of the country is just up the road now, who would have thought this drama would be unfolding?
I wish those beautiful children the best...

Jon and Kate are liars said...

I am still shocked to see people are "sad" to see the old epi's the family so happy and normal.
No the audience was being played then just as they are being played now.
Jon and Kate are liars and this "marital" strife is just a kink in the plan of Kate going forward on her own. The culmination of the biggest joke from KON ever.

The only real truth Jon hates Kate.
But he loves money almost as much as she does.

mollybloom said...

I won't watch next season. Jon and Kate are remarkably boring, dumb people. Why waste electricity to beam them in?

That said, reading this blog makes me realize that the Gosselin publicity machine is in high gear. Guess, Jon's bad behavior has paid off. The gruesome twosome are being bumped up from E to D-list celebrity status.

marypoppins said...

Allissa said...
Haven't had time to read all above posts, so sorry if this is a repeat. The E! channel is doing one of their "investigative" shows (the name escapes me now) next Friday at 10pm on KON!
________________________________
Think Jodi and Kevin will be on?

Past employees?

Jem said...

Is anyone else reminded of the Dionne Quintuplets when they think of the Gosselin "Multiples"? They were five identical twin girls born in Canada in the 1930s. Their parents, like J & K, went fame-crazy and sold the quints out for whatever they were worth. The kids were made to live in a zoo as a tourist attraction. If you haven't heard about them, check out their tragic story on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionne_quintuplets

Lauire said...

I will not be watching on Monday night or any part of season 5. I've had my fill of these a$$es!

Christi said...

Reality shows are never real. That being said, look at all of the "celeb" reality shows and what happened to them. Dave Navarro and Carmen Electra, now divorced. Nick and Jessica, now divorced.. It was inevitable.. no one can live up that kind of "hype". Throw cute little babies into the mix, and you have a mess in the making. Money and greed become more important than familyand love. I hope those kids will be protected when this farce finally leaves the air waves. :(

Catherine said...

The E True Hollywood Story isn't like it used to be where they would tell the story warts and all. Now, many times this show is just like People Magazine, publicist approved love fests.

I guess it could go either way, they could talk about the scandal interviewing a spokesman from Us, Jodi and Kevin, etc., or they could mention all of that and whitewash it all as horrible gossip that isn't fair to poor Jon and Kate.

okiewhocares said...

I won't be watching. I'm totally boycotting TLC until this trainwreck is over. I don't care that I'm not a Nielson family that counts. I can't bear to see the horrible memories that Kate is recording for her children to watch over and over and over again...

Jerome said...

Those photos of Kate on the motorcycle are so stupid. Who wears shoes like that on a motorcycle?

She looked equally as stupid on that little pink bike. Really... nothing about her is little and cute.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Does anyone else find it just little bit coincidental that TLC cameras filmed the paparazzi taking pictures of Kate at Target?

Does TLC really think the viewing public is mentally inept? (well, the sheeple are). TLC arranged for the paps to be at Target and then filmed this for the new episode.

The paparazzi are being fed by TLC and Kate.

Aunty Anne said...

I totally agree the marathon of shows was NOT in the best interest of Jon and Kate, or should I say in Kate's best interest. Because now people will be able to see how nasty she really is.

What started out so innocently morphed Kate from Mom to Monster.

I wish Jon & Kate had watched it. It might remind them of how and when their lives changed so much.

Watching Kate's fashion and hair changes is so revealing.

Give Jon Liberty said...

I can't imagine either Jon or Kate wanting marriage counseling.

I think Jon is so sick of her that he just wants out. If he does have feelings for his girl on the side, he would probably much rather be with her. Why wouldn't he?

Kate is obviously so above anything she used to be, why would she want to remain Mrs Jon Gosselin.

I don't see their marriage ever being good again.

sadie said...

Jon and Kate are liars -- I completely agree with you. The more and more I read and find out, the more I'm disgusted. They both play a role, though, and Jon's permissiveness about letting this take place is just as bad as Kate being the destructive force behind it taking place, IMHO.

Also, Jon and Kate are going to allow TLC to film their marriage counseling. Sweet Lord have mercy.

Kate would go to counseling if only because she will be required to talk about herself.

(headdesk)

Why r they still 2gether? said...

Jem- I'm from Ontario where the
Dionne quints are from- It wasn't
the parents - The Ontario gov.
took over their care and they
built "quintland" which was
accross the street from their
parents house. The province and
their Doctor had total control and
put the quints on display- the
parents fought to get the quints
back and eventually did...but
I think they could never really
feel like they were part of the
family after their childhood spent
apart from them. Very sad.

Scruffy's Mom said...

Ann Marie:
I read an interview with Jane in which he said he "physically" can't have any more children. I took that to mean he had surgery but maybe Keight has all his parts in her purse. LOL

Also, his line "I might as well be in prison." How absolutely ridiculous and absurd! I laugh outloud everytime I hear him say that.

And as for Keight ... when was it she changed? When she had her tummy tuck. That was the beginning of the end for her. Can you imagine her having an affair with that flabby gut?

okiewhocares said...

I was just on CNN's Showbiz Tonight website. They used to have a special section just for the Octomom Controvery. It has been replaced by a new section for the Jon & Kate Controversy. I wish they would just go away. I'm sick of seeing their faces everywhere I look!

Robin said...

What a bunch of crap...Kate: "The world is sitting on my shoulders...."
...um no...we are kicking you in the a$$...and like you said Kate "the world isn't going to last forever".

Ding Ding Ding!!!

Right on said...

The original episode was on TLC last night and I almost cried watching it! To see where they were and where they are now and all that has happened made me really sad.

just wondering said...

People!

Those of you who are deluding yourselves into thinking that something has changed Kate's persona somewhere between 2005 & 2009 have just got to shake those cobwebs right out of your brains!

She is exactly the same person now as she was then. She's just perfected the routine. The only difference between then and now is that she just doesn't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks any longer. In 2005 she still needed to get this show off the ground and into weekly episodes.

Yes, she and Jon were still happy, but only because Jon was still useful to her. You need to remember that a narcissist is only interested in people who can help them reach a personal goal. Once that person is no longer needed, they are dismissed. Period.

Sentence to remember: Only those who reflect well upon a narcissist will be permitted attention, and that includes children.

Kate hasn't changed, she's just more imperial about it now. Reminds me of Martha Stewart, actually.

She's just been studying really hard the last few years.

allisonw said...

you know, if the reason kate didn't want jodi to get paid is b/c she wanted jon to get the extra money so they could afford for him to stay home, i kinda get that. back in those days they probably weren't getting paid the big bucks that they are now. I'm a sahm and would love it if my husband could stay home too (though i'd never do it at the expense of my children's privacy). and maybe TLC didn't want to film Jodi anymore if she wasn't under contract, and that was the initial reason she "got the ax". Though it still doesn't justify why she is no longer a part of the kids lives off camera.

i think what should happen is the show metamorphs into a show just about jon and kate, marriage counseling would definitly be entertaining and the kids could be in the background or not at all, but definitly shouldn't be the focus. I have no plans to watch the season premier mainly b/c the season finale P*ssed me off when there was so much hype then absolutly nothing happened. so i know this big "face off" isn't going to be worth an hour of my time.

UGH! said...

I have never watched that American Chopper show. I have had that show begin when I was not paying attention, or maybe it was their commercials, but the Dad on that show talks so mean to his kids that I can't turn it off quick enough. It is sickening.

Apparently he and Kate could swap stories of how to demean your kids on TV shows.

It is ugly!

MamaJane said...

Watching the derailment as it unfolded over time via TLC's weekend marathon. Can't help myself. It is so fascinating and sad to watch this woman morph, all due to her love of money and status... her envy. She seemed so sweet and shy and emotionally awkward in the beginning (thpugh i always thought opportunistic and self absorbed).

Now she has it all... wannabe fans, paps giving chase, seeing herself plastered on shelves of check oit aisles, ten billion google hits... A perfect life for a woman poisoned by envy.

I saw the episode about the family rules. Hokie as it was, the intent was probably sincere. But then she reads the "most important" goal: always put the family first. Never put anything before the family. Into the big bug eye of TLC's camera she reads, "Family first."

And it struck me that this woman does not get it. What a stark juxtaposition of realities. Family or camera, family or camera... She does not get it.

organizedblogroll said...

Can someone please tell me what the hell Jon is saying on that preview.
I can't even understand him.

jonandkatewho? said...

I can't read the US article because I have no page icon at the top of my screen and apparently there is no way to enlarge the scans.

Could somebody who is more computer proficient than I am please enlarge this scan and repost the URL so we can all see the article? I did not want to spend $4 on a magazine with that woman on the cover, but would love to read the article here if somebody does not mind posting it larger. I'm sure some others besides myself have older computers or whatever the issue is that I cannot enlarge it.

Thanks in advance if somebody can do this!

JJ said...

Watching the marathon is very sad. Sad that they turned out this way, I honestly did not expect it to get this bad (whether it's all real or just a stunt - both options are sad!)

The Valentine's Day ep... Kate is wearing a "I heart Jon" shirt, which Mady reads aloud: "'I love Jon....' oh. I didn't know that."

I'm hoping she meant she didn't know her mother got personalized shirts.

I'll be watching on Monday, and I'm watching the marathon as I recover from a stressful shift. I enjoy pointing out the flaws of the show and discussing it, therefore watching it would be helpful. I'm not one to boycott. But more power to those who do!

PJ said...

I don't think that Kate realizes that there is difference between infamy and fame. TLC does but they only care about the ratings.

luvthekids said...

I watched the show from the first. I can't watch anymore. The reruns all make what is happening now worse. Jon is on buying his wife a purse for Valentines Day last year, practice for buying his gf a purse this year. Fun to watch, not!

sigh said...

Well, here it is. The infamous gum episode is airing now. This is when I actually started to hate her.

Teryn said...

jonandkatewho? said...
I can't read the US article because I have no page icon at the top of my screen and apparently there is no way to enlarge the scans.

Could somebody who is more computer proficient than I am please enlarge this scan and repost the URL so we can all see the article? I did not want to spend $4 on a magazine with that woman on the cover, but would love to read the article here if somebody does not mind posting it larger. I'm sure some others besides myself have older computers or whatever the issue is that I cannot enlarge it.

Thanks in advance if somebody can do this!

5/23/2009 4:48 PM



Put your cursor over the picture and right click your mouse and click "save picture as" or "view picture". Then go to your pictures saved on your computer and you can enlarge it there to read.

Mother of Two(couldn't afford more...) said...

It's coincidental one of the posters just made a reference to the Dionne Quintuplets being put on display at a zoo. In the Gosselin's Pittsburg Zoo visit episode that re-aired today, Kate actually said on camera to the worker giving them the tour of the zoo: "Do you think you could put them in a Gosselin Sextuplet Exhibit here at the zoo? Something where they'd be safe behind bars?"........I just came to this site to see if anyone mentioned it, and when, instead I found the reference to that actually happening to the Dionnes', I was floored. But the real problem is, Kate is already doing that, and more to her kids. The kids HAVE become a zoo exhibit, circus animals, carnival freaks...whaterever analogy you choose.... unfortunately it's correct. Kate needs to read the part in the Bible that says the sins of the parents will be visited upon their children....

JJ said...

Organizedblogroll, I can't understand Jon either. He's slurring and mumbling like he's been hitting the sauce!

The last part was about being in a prison, the first part I don't remember but it was somewhat audible. It's the middle part that I still struggle with. Something about he's not feeling so hot...?

I loathe him as much as people here loathe Kate. I dislike him more than her! And I can't get over how people think he is going to turn into a knight in shining armor and rescue the children, and how he will get the kids if there's a divorce. Just because he's not touring the country doesn't mean he's at home raising the kids. And all this time he's showed such little interest in them - like that will change overnight!

I see nothing different about him except an inflated sense of self pity.

sick said...

Sorry to state the obvious, after watching the "gum episode" with the bear: she really is just an abusive monster. If I ever treated my sons the way she treats her children I'd rather someone just shot me.

lindahoyt said...

I find it curious that nothing seemed mundane, or too boring to film for the show. Poop, constipation, driving somewhere, dentist appointments, dentist appointments times and again....orthodonic appointments, hair cuts, eating meals, Christmas, 4th of July, Memorial day, time out, dinner out together, tummy tuck and hair transplants, soup making, baths, tantrums, house hunting, teeth whitening, going to a gym, going to a spa, buying groceries, writing a will, first day of school, mother's day, birthdays, first time on Oprah, getting dogs....every thing in their lives caught on camera. All the milestones.

Not quite.

No episodes on finding THIS mansion.

No episodes on buying a sports car.

No episodes on buying expensive clothes.

No episodes on going to Mr. Chow's.

No episodes on flying first class for the first time.

NO episodes on buying expensive jewelry.

No episodes on hiring security; or even on the need for security.

No episodes on writing the book.

No episodes on doing the book tour.

No episodes on why Jodi and Kevin are gone.

No episodes on why Beth and Bob are gone.

No episodes on where the volunteers went.

No episodes on hiring new "helpers".

No episodes on having a cook.

No episodes on having a house keeper.

No episodes about Jon moving to the garage.

No episodes on shopping on Rodeo Drive.

Gee, I wonder why?

Could it be that reality may ruin their reality show?

overwithKON said...

*raising hand* I WONT BE WATCHING! Cant wait for the recap here tho! ;=)

No Smiles said...

I just took a look at the pictures of them on the motorcycles on dlisted.com. The kids don't look happy in any of the pictures of them. Sad, sad, sad. Not a smile among them.

Hambone said...

If you've ever seen the movie "Untraceable" , it's pretty much the same concept with J&K Plus 8...without murder of course.

In the movie, a serial killer puts his victims on the internet and the more people who log in to his website to watch the person die, the faster they will die. The police ( Diane Lane ) are urging and begging people not to go to the website so they will have more time to find the victim before he/she dies, but people are too curious and more and more people log on to watch. The more curious the people get, the faster the person dies.

Anyway, there are people begging us not to watch the show Monday so J&K won't get ratings, but no matter what, curiosity is going to win out every time. Watching this show is like watching a slow destruction. You can't help it. It does not mean you enjoy the show or condone what you are seeing, but the fascination with watching two shmucks destroy each other is, sadly, being used for entertainment. It's a sick world we live in...really.

I think the show also gets a ton of ratings because people want to watch and make sure the kids are being treated properly and the show isn't jumping the shark with them. It's definitely 100% jumped the shark with Jon and Kate, and now people are watching to make sure the same doesn't happen with the children. When idiot sheeple cry, "Turn the channel and don't watch if you don't like it", I want to smack the crap out of them because that's exactly like asking someone to turn their back and not watch if you suspect a child of being abused and/or neglected.

So, come Monday when TLC's ratings are through the roof...and they will be....please please please don't think it's because people love this show. It's because there are many many people out there looking out for those kids and ready to pounce at the first hint they are being mistreated, which in my opinion, is getting closer and closer to becomming reality as these two immature and selfish parents get even more out of control as their infamy and celebrity status rises for all the wrong reasons. I believe it is only a matter of time before the proper authorities in Pennsylvania are forced to intervene because of things witnessed by millions on this show involving the kids. This show and everything that is wrong about it will be what spurs lawmakers into action to protect future reality show minors. The sad thing is the Gosselin kids are having to be sacrificed to get these laws born.

But please don't ask us not to watch the show. We are the only ones watching out for these kids while TLC whoops it up, Jon and Kate count their money, and sheeple run straight to their computers and baahhhhhh about haters and trolls.

SkippyMom said...

Someone needs to send Kate a copy of the book "The Narcissism Epidemic" by Jean Twenge.

I think she might see herself there.

It is on CSPN2 right now...and so fascinating. :) [I was flippin and found it]

The Hills Are Alive with The Sound of BS said...

lindahoyt said...
I find it curious that nothing seemed mundane, or too boring to film for the show. Poop, constipation, driving somewhere, dentist appointments, dentist appointments times and again....orthodonic appointments, hair cuts, eating meals, Christmas, 4th of July, Memorial day, time out, dinner out together, tummy tuck and hair transplants, soup making, baths, tantrums, house hunting, teeth whitening, going to a gym, going to a spa, buying groceries, writing a will, first day of school, mother's day, birthdays, first time on Oprah, getting dogs....every thing in their lives caught on camera. All the milestones.

Not quite.

No episodes on finding THIS mansion.

No episodes on buying a sports car.

No episodes on buying expensive clothes.

No episodes on going to Mr. Chow's.

No episodes on flying first class for the first time.

NO episodes on buying expensive jewelry.

No episodes on hiring security; or even on the need for security.

No episodes on writing the book.

No episodes on doing the book tour.

No episodes on why Jodi and Kevin are gone.

No episodes on why Beth and Bob are gone.

No episodes on where the volunteers went.

No episodes on hiring new "helpers".

No episodes on having a cook.

No episodes on having a house keeper.

No episodes about Jon moving to the garage.

No episodes on shopping on Rodeo Drive.

Gee, I wonder why?

Could it be that reality may ruin their reality show?

5/23/2009 5:36 PM




But I thought this was the realest reality show out there?

just wondering said...

I noticed that too, Linda.

They are not airing any of the newer episodes. They don't want the newest viewers to get the wrong impression of Kate, now do they?

I actually wonder if they will ever show the Going Green episode again. Or my favorite.. The trip to the vet.

My God! These people can't even be relied upon to follow veterinarian advice. What chance do the children have?

No, I think the episodes from the time they moved to the mcmansion up until now well under wraps for the time being.

Remember people.. Kate hasn't changed. She just doesn't care that we can actually see her now.

PK said...

OMG, according to RadarOnline.com they each were given their own Chopper.
That is just insane.

chesterctymom said...

PK said...
OMG, according to RadarOnline.com they each were given their own Chopper.
That is just insane.

I just looked at the pictures and what I could not believe that Kate is actually sitting in her WHITE PLASITIC CHAIR!!! I knew she had it with her!!!

nanb said...

Here's an article on Kate's bodyguard
Steve was hired because of over zealous fans

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/2436707/NZ-bodyguard-front-page-news-for-US-gossip-rag

I caught the end of an Access Hollywood segment and Billy Bush was saying Kate was tough, I interviewed her on this set and she is tough!

Since I will not watch the repeats. Can someone tell me how many times on shows, Kate has talked about Jon leaving/disappearing. I can remember 2 times, I believe Jon was chasing a ball down the street and Kate said something to the affect he might leave but not today. Also I remember one of the boys crying and Kate saying he's afraid Jon has gone. I believe the children have always known how tenuous their family situation is. Wasn't there also a show, around the time of the move, where one of the children thought she throwing Jon's stuff out?

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

Since TLC is airing the old episodes, I thought I shed some light on how the show works. We've discussed this before, but it's buried somewhere in the archived posts.

When the show first started, Kate made a wishlist of things that she wanted, and that became the theme of each episode--the carpet, twin's room, bunk beds, cow, hairplugs, teeth whitening, trips, etc. EVERYTHING that you see them do or buy is completely paid for out of the budget for the show or traded for free advertising. Kate went on and on about saving up for special days, you saw her paying for things, she talked about budgeting, etc. It is all for the appearance that they are a struggling family with 8 children. They needed to be relatable. They didn't pay for any of it.

The episodes are also staged. Here's how it works...there is a staff of people reading these blogs and they base the shows around what people are talking about. I haven't watched many episodes, but I do know some of the behind the scenes events.

The Christmas episode from 2007. Producers told Kate that the viewers wanted to see her show appreciation to their helpers. They told her what the episode was going to be. I think they baked cookies and then went caroling (of course this was probably one of their many "traditions"--those are all fake too). Kate threw a fit. She didn't want to do it, but she did...because they were trying to pacify the viewers.

Another example is the "Games Gosselins Play" (I think that might have been the same episode as their "mission statement"). I actually did watch this one. This was around the time that I started reading discussion boards and finding out that there were many people opposed to the show. It was so obvious that the mission statement was addressing all of the concerns that I had been reading online. The game time was just ridiculous. After the episode, I called Jodi and said, "what was that?". She hadn't watched it, so I explained that it came across so fake (at least to me). Jodi was with Kate when she got "the call" about the theme for that episode. Kate said something like, "so now I have to pretend that I play with my kids". They also wanted her to pay special attention to the boys.

Don't believe everything you see. The children are also being prompted to say or do certain things. They signed their lives away to TLC and they will continue to spin the show to keep the viewer's interest. I don't believe this show will go away until the viewers decide that they don't want to be played anymore.

Of course, you've all figured out that they are showing Kate cook/bake to promote her upcoming cookbook. The show has now turned into a show about a family with a reality show--move to a mansion, cross-over shows, book tour, talk shows...

I've only watch a handful of episodes. I haven't even seen all of the episodes that Jodi has been in. I made a personal decision long ago to do what I can to give those children the privacy and respect that they deserve. I refuse to watch and participate in something that I feel so strongly against.

Please don't watch on Monday. You're not going to learn anything new by watching. They will only show what they think people want to see and it isn't real anyway. They will probably drag this out (J&K's "relationship") for the entire season. They just string the viewers along hoping that they will come back for more.

KB said...

Well, wasn't the whole point of the wedding in Hawaii to prove to the kids Mommy and Daddy would be together forever. Should count how many times she says that, i think it's a fair bit. You only need to 'prove' such things if there is some serious doubt going on!

Zoey said...

The Truth Will Set You Free,

I believe every word you say. For instance, Kate pictured at the tups birthday party holding the boys hands. Let's all remember that Kate thinks boys are "icky."

TLC should be ashamed of themselves, and so should Kate and Jon. I WILL NOT watch this show anymore.

SaNdY said...

The Truth Will Set You Free said...
Since TLC is airing the old episodes, I thought I shed some light on how the show works. We've discussed this before, but it's buried somewhere in the archived posts.
***********************************
(I didn't include Julie's entire comment) Thank you, Julie, for your insight...it all makes sense, this is not 'reality' at all, even if Kate claims it's the 'realest reality' show on TV...what a sham of a show...

nanb said...

The Truth Will Set You Free, Thank you I always wondered about alot of the stuff you just spoke about but since I didn't convert until after I realized Jodi, Kevin, Carla, Beth disappeared I missed many of your posts.

Bests wishes to Jodi, Kevin and all the vanquished loved ones of the children.

SaNdY said...

nanb said...
Here's an article on Kate's bodyguard
Steve was hired because of over zealous fans

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/2436707/NZ-bodyguard-front-page-news-for-US-gossip-rag

I caught the end of an Access Hollywood segment and Billy Bush was saying Kate was tough, I interviewed her on this set and she is tough!

Since I will not watch the repeats. Can someone tell me how many times on shows, Kate has talked about Jon leaving/disappearing. I can remember 2 times, I believe Jon was chasing a ball down the street and Kate said something to the affect he might leave but not today. Also I remember one of the boys crying and Kate saying he's afraid Jon has gone. I believe the children have always known how tenuous their family situation is. Wasn't there also a show, around the time of the move, where one of the children thought she throwing Jon's stuff out?
***********************************
Yes, in answer to your question, I believe it was Mady who caught Kate (in the basement of the other house) throwing out something and Mady said something like, 'Why are you throwing away dadddy's things'

Abby said...

BIGGER CHAIR?
Just noticed something as I was watching some old reruns of the show last night. The 'big chair' that J & K do their interviews in appears to have gotten much larger. Either that or they have both lost a lot of weight. The older episodes show them almost smooshed together, now in the upcoming season, it looks like you could fit another person between them. Clever marketing or am I wrong? What do you think?

-----------------------------------

They spoke about changing their set on the last episode of last season. That's why they signed the walls.

lindahoyt said...

It is sad but true, that children suffer because of the sins of their parents. And the Gosselin children are suffering because of their parent's greed and selfishness!

If Jon thinks he lives in a prison, and he is an adult, who has choices; just imagine how those kids feel!

A person's freedom is so much more valuable than fame and fortune.

TT said...

Something is wrong here! What the hell is Steve doing at the Gosselin home when there isnt any need to protect Kate? Futhermore I thought that Jon told Kevin and Jodi that he suspected Steve and Kate may have had some hanky panky going on?......WHAT IS WRONG HERE?

lindahoyt said...

I notice that the schedule for premier show has changed in the last few days.

At first it was to be two episodes, one being Kate's birthday trip to Baltimore bakery...and the sextuplet's birthday party. ....Now, I see they have dropped Kate's birthday episode, and have extended the hour long opener to one hour 15 minutes!

An hour and 15 minutes of them lying and crying about the tabloids?

Oh man, now I'm constipated!

Jen K said...

Perhaps it's due to the holiday weekend, I don't know, but I drove past the Manor of Horrors in Wernersville today (I'm in town for a family get-together) and their claim that on any given day there are 200 cars on the road....BS. There was no one. It was like a ghost town. We were the only car that even drove by and after we turned around to go back the way we came, we saw one car and one tractor. :)

And, there is no way in hell you could even get 200 cars on that road. There are sharp hairpin turns. If you even park there, you risk getting in a crash due to the blind approaches from both sides. Anyone, paps or not, who is doing that, is taking a big risk. It's also rather close to the road...I was actually surprised at how close it was. The neighbors must just LOVE all the attention because one neighbor a little bit up from them has blocked off their entire entrance to their driveway with "no U-turn" signs and a barricade.

Nice area, once you get up in the hills, but if they really wanted privacy and not to be seen from the road, they picked the wrong house.

It was one of those trips where you go, "I'm this close, why not see what all the fuss is about" but it was rather blah. I had actually hoped that there would be paps there to stop and chat with. No one.

Cherier1 said...

The truth Will Set You Free said,The Christmas episode from 2007. Producers told Kate that the viewers wanted to see her show appreciation to their helpers. They told her what the episode was going to be. I think they baked cookies and then went caroling (of course this was probably one of their many "traditions"--those are all fake too). Kate threw a fit. She didn't want to do it, but she did...because they were trying to pacify the viewers.



Thanks for your post! Very enlightening and insteresting reading.

Can you tell us if Beth is still around? Does Mady ever get to see Little Benny?

Tess H. said...

I sent this earlier but didn't see it get posted. There is a blog entry on The Christian Post that is asking people to not watch Jon and Kate plus 8.

www.christianpost.com/blogs/books/2009/05/just-say-no-to-jon-and-kate-23

JJ said...

Sandy, it was Hannah asking why Kate was throwing out Jon's stuff. (minor detail)

concernedforthe8 said...

The season opener on Monday will have HUGE ratings....SIGH..... What can we do???

Hug a Collie said...

The Truth Will Set You Free,

Thanks for the info! I have to say I'm not suprised and I WILL NOT BE WATCHING MONDAY! I haven't watched in months but enjoy reading the comments on this blog. :)

Anonymomma said...

The marriage counseling thing is wrong. Way wrong. You couldn't pay me to do that with my husband. Not that we'd have a whole lot of gossip worthy information to reveal. I just think something as intimate as speaking to a therapist should not be filmed ever or for any reason. What therapist is even going to allow cameras in? That is sick.

If the two of them have agreed to it, they must really loath each other a lot more than we already suspect they do.

Anonymomma said...

The episode where they take Cara and Mady to American Girl in NYC for their birthdays was paid for by TLC. Right down to the dolls Jon and Kate claimed to have bought the girls. They didn't. TLC did. Happy birthday, huh?

Abby said...

They are not airing any of the newer episodes. They don't want the newest viewers to get the wrong impression of Kate, now do they?

I actually wonder if they will ever show the Going Green episode again. Or my favorite.. The trip to the vet.

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Aside from a few hours of paid programming in the early morning, TLC is airing wall-to-wall J&K episodes, including all of last season and the Green episode, leading up to the premiere on Monday night.
So, at least all the new viewers tuning in because of controversy will be able to see the drastic change the family has undergone.

FancyNancy said...

Please don't watch on Monday. You're not going to learn anything new by watching. They will only show what they think people want to see and it isn't real anyway. They will probably drag this out (J&K's "relationship") for the entire season. They just string the viewers along hoping that they will come back for more.
_________________________

Thanks for all your input Julie! You have been such a great advocate for the kids. Definitely count me in as a non-watcher on Monday night. I'm renting Mall Cop!

Sara said...

I was curious to see what they were saying on the "other" side. I was amazed to see that it is dead over there. I guess they all are in shock over all the truth finally coming out.

I refuse to watch this show anymore. It's all fake. Just like Kate and Jon.

RealMom said...

Maybe Jon had an attack of conscience and said "I SHOULD be in prison, not I LIVE in a prison.

The extra 15 minutes will get them even more ratings and money. No one in my house is allowed to watch them. Mom's rules.

Allicat said...

Beth still lives in the area, but she is too classy of a lady to stoop to Kate's level. I think she is just watching the train wreck with the rest of us. Hoping the kids get help.

Just from what I have read, I have to believe that Jon still sees them. However, I do not think the kids get to see Beth or her family.

How sad!

Just Sayin' said...

disgusted in nj said...

Caught some of the first episode yesterday. In that Kate says that the tups were born at 29 weeks. She, also, says that she was put on bedrest at 7 weeks.

In all the hype that they have been producing these past few weeks we have her saying that she was on bedrest for 30 weeks.

This means that she was on bedrest before she even became pregnant.

There is a saying, "If you are going to lie, you better have a good memory." Guess that she is rewriting the rules for herself!

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Kate does this all the time. She lies and exaggerates constantly. She works so hard to make everything more dramatic than it really was, to make her situation seem so much more special or difficult than it really was.

She wouldn't know truth if it bit her in the butt.

Cherier1 said...

Count me as someone who will not watch, Julie. I intend to be having fun with my family!

RealMom said...

Great idea for Monday night: have you heard of Red Box? They are vending machines for videos usually located outside Walmart or supermarkets. They are only $1.00 a night + tax (1.07). We use them all the time, and they have new releases. So Monday night go rent a movie. don't give the Gosselins and their Total Larceny Channel (TLC) cohorts one penny more of your hard-earned cash.

gasmom said...

gasmom said...
I'm still intrigued about the Jon Gosselin e-mail to the moderators from way back (see the Q&A),

I've searched this blog and cannot find this email...can you point me in the right direction? I'm quite curious about it.

Look in the Q&A/FAQ section, where the mods discuss an e-mail or comment (forget which) Jon sent them. I read it quite a while back - it was discussed maybe last summer? The contents have not been published, but apparently it was not very Gosselin-ish, to put it nicely. According to the mods, it was from Jon and they have retained it. We don't have any other details about this.

dolphinfoxx said...

IH8K8 said...
I had heard that the Tuttles were spotted at the Konpound. Must be true.

I've heard this rumor twice now, locally, and I was wondering if any other locals could chime in with any knowledge. What I heard was, that the doctor who sold the house to Jon and Kate is/or is considering suing them due to Kate going on and on about how filthy their house was on national tv. It's no secret around here whose house it was, so it had to be pretty embarassing and possibly detrimental to him professionally.
Can you email me and tell me which Tuttles you're talking about? I know of a few here locally. And The doc that sold them the house in my doctor. I'm actually going to see him for a check up next week and I'll ask him a few questions and see what he says. I'll definitly post back here on what happens with our conversation.

Just Be Nice Kate said...

So free motorcycles for both Jon and Kate? I have to wonder if this was just one perk that swayed Jon to stay on board. Ugh. Did the kids get new bikes? These pics show orange bikes, but I can't remember what the old ones look like.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/hot-pics-jon-kate-still-together-still-chopping

Tiffany said...

Woah. Woah... I just noticed on Radar Online that the bodyguard was watching one of the kids while parents were filming the "add it to the list free choppers" episode. Wasn't this episode filmed at their house? I could totally be missing something here, but it seems to me that $1600 a day is one expensive "babysitter".

Amy said...

If what I'm reading here is true....
When the scandals, accusations, etc. hit the media I belived that Jon was/is the better of the two parents. He stated earlier that he wanted his privacy, blah, blah, blah. But yet he signed up for a 5th season. Now I learn that they agreed to two more seasons provided Kate agreed to have marriage counseling on the show. Two more seasons. What gives? Neither of these two parents (and I use that term lossely!!) are interested in their children. Only money and fame. When will this train wreck stop? BTW I won't be watching on Monday. I prefer to read about the episodes on GWoP.
And finally, thank you Julie, Jodi and Kevin for speaking out for the children. At least they have some people who love them for them, not fame and money.

mom2threecuties said...

I just saw a picture of Kate on people.com (Pre-Season primer to the Gosselins) wearing a purple shirt - definitely a new boob job!

KCmom said...

Yes you did see the bodyguard at the house because TLC wants you to see him and speculate. Also, $1600 a day is coming from TLC and with all this hype they and J&K are producing, they can well afford it.I hear the Duggers, Table for 10and LPBW are not pulling in the ratings anymore but J&K makes up for it.That was a "Gotcha" picture so you would say "Woah now I have to watch"

mama22girls said...

The D-Listed pictures are too much. I am torn about the way I feel about Jon. Part of me feels like he has been heavily controlled and brainwashed by Kate, being that she is older and his wife, the mother of his children, etc. And a part of me sees pics like the ones on the d-listed site and knows that he can stand up and say "no" I will not be a part of this anymore, but TLC throws a custom chopper at him and his eyes light up with dollar signs. Yuck, this show has gotten ridiculous.

Julie (The Truth will Set You Free), I commend you for being so strong in your convictions about the children and the show. Thank you for being so honest and sharing your insight on the show. It helps to really educate people about how the show is run and just how ridiculously the audience was being dooped, then and now.

What happened to Beth?

Nonna said...

Jon has not been brain-washed or controlled by anyone. He is an adult and a father. He is not a child. He loves this life, are you kidding me? This is sweet for him, not having to work, going on trips all the time, getting free things. If he is brain-washed or controlled by anything, it is not by Kate, it is by all the money.

RealMom said...

Everytime I see the massive Konpound mansion and then I see Kate with the tattoo and trashy haircut and Jon in his dirty t-shirts, I can't help but wonder, where is Granny, Jethro and Uncle Jed?

Danielle said...

Just Be Nice Kate said...
So free motorcycles for both Jon and Kate? I have to wonder if this was just one perk that swayed Jon to stay on board. Ugh. Did the kids get new bikes? These pics show orange bikes, but I can't remember what the old ones look like.
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The kids got new bikes from the "Ellen" show a few months back!

sadie said...

I don't feel sorry for Jon at all. Kate has never tried to hide who she is, and so in that regard, Jon knew exactly what he was getting himself into, IMHO.

Yes, Kate is (insert her laundry list of faults here), but Jon is a grown man. I've said this before, and I'll say it again -- in some ways, I hold him more accountable. Kate is so far gone, I honestly wonder if she even realizes what she's doing is wrong. I'm in no way excusing her, but in that regard, she almost can't help herself.

Jon, on the other hand, has an awareness about what's going on, but chooses to ignore after he's bought off.

Both of them are disgusting.

I've never watched the show regularly (I always seemed to catch it in marathons), and I definitely won't be watching on Monday or any other time, ever.

Virginia Gal said...

Count me in on as one of the ones not watching. I haven't watched for almost a year now and refuse to. It's the best thing I can do to help those children, except pray.

I understand and agree (in part) with the person that said it doesn't matter if you're not a Nielsen ratings family... true. But I disagree in that every time I watch that program, I too, have become a participant in the very thing I am saying is so bad about KON... observing the details of these children's lives. I would love to see one of the kids as an adult and be able to say... "I respected your privacy and did not watch the show."

So, if their parents won't protect them, that's the action I'm taking at the present to do my part to protect the kids.

judy said...

Thanks for the info, Julie. I have read everything you've said from the beginning and it STILL amazes me how "bad" it really is at the Gosselin home/set.
I really underestimated Kate's "acting". She deserves an Oscar for her acting in the first two seasons. She came across as a loving mother. She missed her calling in life. :(

jayley said...

The new marketing plan apparently is to sell Jon as a big bad biker dude. (with something between his legs? very simple and freudian...}
(no offense at all intended for people that ride on a regular basis) He looks ridiculous and fake, just one more stupid decision made from this corportation.

Just 2 more things,,, What parent is so completely self absorbed that they think others are interested in viewing their childrens excrement? and to take pictures of it?? wow. sick.

Happy Memorial Day! While we all might have many that we remember this weekend, I especially remember my father and brother, USMC.

cassandrau said...

http://dlisted.com/node/32199/images/90522X9_GOSSELIN_B-GR_23.jpg

Look at poor Joel :(

Gag the Gosselins said...

I cringed looking at the photos of Jon and Kate on the motorcycles..Jon looks like he needs a bath and I am sick of seeing his pouty facial expressions..If Jon had to actually work for a living he might have a whole new perception of what 'prison' feels like..he is a spoiled, lazy adolescent who feels hard done by living in a mansion, having free trips, merchandise etc?? Please! I despise Kate and I have little symapthy for Jon..it is completely hypocritical to be whing about feeling like he is in prison when he is continuing to live a lie and exploiting his children..quite honestly these previews of season 5 have replused me even more and I have no desire to watch the show ever again..TLC is not welcome in my home anymore..it is disgraceful that they continue to manipulate the public and make money off of exploiting people

KidsRthePriority said...

Now I'm starting to wonder if Kevin/Jodi heard about the "deal" of two more seasons for televised marital counseling, and that's why they spoke out. We always knew this wasn't the "realest reality show ever", but who knew everything was fake. I stopped watching after the hair plugs, but have a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach to think that everything before that was fake as well. And now no one can dispute that the kids are working as actors, since the cameras are not just capturing everyday life - how are they ever going to understand the concepts of trust and privacy?

As I recall reading somewhere, Season 5 is the first where Jon/Kate get producers credits (i.e., more control of what's shown and, of course, extra $$$$), so it's no small wonder there has been all this drama before Monday night's show. What's even clearer now is that there will be no end to this until people stop watching, buying, etc. Nothing will ever be enough for Kate. As for Jon, I'd like to believe he wants out, but knowing he's gone along with this entirely scripted show, now I have to admit that he's either as greedy as Kate or he's just an appeaser - either way the kids have no one looking out for them.

I was just telling my DH about Julie's post and he suggested starting a writing campaign to every church they've been paid to speak at, encouraging each church to request their fees back as Jon/Kate have "perpetuated a fraud." I'm so angry about this that I'd be more than happy to help with this - anyone have any ideas how to go about this?

jen in pa said...

Caught some of the first episode yesterday. In that Kate says that the tups were born at 29 weeks. She, also, says that she was put on bedrest at 7 weeks.

In all the hype that they have been producing these past few weeks we have her saying that she was on bedrest for 30 weeks.

This means that she was on bedrest before she even became pregnant.

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I think Kate gets her timeline and "story" mixed up as she is constantly covering her lies. She probably WAS on bed rest prior to actually conceiving. She was hospitalized for hyper-stimulation of her ovaries. Jon and Kate have always stated that the sextuplets were the result of IUI, but the timeline doesn't fit. Her doctor did not perform the procedure; she conceived naturally, knowing full well how many follicles had matured.

Tess H. said...

In one of the latest pictures taken for the 'chopper' show where Jon and Kate and some kids are standing in front of the garage, I noticed what I believe is a doorbell next to the little door. I wonder if it was there before the G's moved in or if they added it. I don't remember if there was a picture with a close-up of the garage in the realtor listing.

jen in pa said...

Dear People Magazine,

You and I have been together longer than my husband and I. You are my guilty Friday night pleasure and I would hate to have to break things off. I really missed you last week, but I simply couldn't buy an issue featuring Kate Gosselin. People magazine usually features celebrities who are talented in a certain artistic craft, along with interesting people who are doing something unique or courageous in their lives. Kate Gosselin is neither unique nor courageous. Yet, here she is on the side of this week's issue once again. (By the way, you managed to photoshop her wonk eye much better last week, at least from what I could tell as I was choosing NOT to buy your magazine at the grocery store checkout.) If Kate calls you again with any more of "her side", could you please just tell her the simplest solution to the attention she claims not to want is to fade off into obscurity? With Appreciation, jen in pa

lindahoyt said...

Since I do have experience with addicts...I have been sitting here thinking things through....

I wonder. Before Jon met Kate, did he have a dependency problem? Seems they hinted at it.

If so, the episode with the hair plugs could have been the turning point, in that Jon could have become addicted to the pain killers. Addicts can not have them, or they are right back where they started---addicted.

This certainly breaks up marriages.

Hey, if the show begins to focus on their marriage, as apposed to the children...I say bravo! If it forces them to go to mental health professionals, and shows their actual counselling sessions...airs their own personal problems...wow, I think that the show could do some good! I think that even if those two weren't helped, others might be helped. Others might be more inclined to go to counselling.

THEN TLC would redeem itself as an educational television network.

IF they leave the kids alone, and just use them for background and context; if every moment and bowel movement wasn't filmed, I would again watch the show guilt free.

"JON AND KATE LEARN NOT TO HATE"

Miranda said...

Great quote from The Vancouver Sun article:

"...this next generation version of Eight is Enough is currently a slow motion car wreck rolling end over end across three miles of blacktop.

And Kate Gosselin is at the wheel."

Tiffany said...

KCmom said...
Yes you did see the bodyguard at the house because TLC wants you to see him and speculate. Also, $1600 a day is coming from TLC and with all this hype they and J&K are producing, they can well afford it.I hear the Duggers, Table for 10and LPBW are not pulling in the ratings anymore but J&K makes up for it.That was a "Gotcha" picture so you would say "Woah now I have to watch"
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That's sure not going to get me to watch this crap. Why would I when reading about it on here is so much better!?!

GRY said...

Well, the marathon of TLC's plastic TV family, J&K+8=0 is going on now and every time I'm channel surfing past I get a glimpse of the old world before the mountain of merchandise and freebies came along. Seems like a completely different world back then and yet we are now hearing that the whole show may have been fake all along. None of what was filmed was truly spontaneous nor genuine.

Seeing the American Chopper crossover with J&K's show makes me ill, now TLC is trying to link as many shows in with this trainwreck as possible to boost ratings and profits.
Hearing that KON may have actually agreed to do another two seasons of this garbage makes me feel ill when I think of the kids.

I hate to say this but it's too late to save them, I don't believe Jon wants to get out now, only cut a better deal for himself. Someone else mentioned he's still an adolescent at heart and they're right. Kate is going ahead with her career plans no matter what anyone says.

I feel bad for all the in-laws and Kevin/Jodi because there is not a thing they can do to touch the Gosselins legally. This family is now the property of TLC and it's bound and determined to exploit those children for everything they can get.
Kara and Mady will definitely need counseling because of the long term exposure to "unreality" in that household.
I can guarantee you one thing, Kate will only grow colder and more distant as those kids grow up, as I mentioned elsewhere, there is a boarding school in those kids futures. She's going to do her own thing no matter what anyone says.

I'm not going to pay attention to this trainwreck any longer, it's too painful to keep a track of and I'm not a ghoul. I've programmed my TV to block out the TLC channel so I don't even surf past this channel just skipping past it, TLC is a company which needs to learn a harsh lesson on the morality of child exploitation for entertainment purposes.

maria said...

Anonymous AnneMarie said...

Does anyone know why Jon said he can't have more children but she can??

(from a post a couple of days ago on another thread)
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This may have been answered for you already, but I am assuming that Jon didn't want ANY more kids, so he had a vasectomy. Therefore, he can't have more children, but technically she could (just not with him).

Amigo22 said...

How can they call this "documenting their lives"? That's what regular video cameras are for - and they'd also get the WHOLE event (or however much footage they take of it) instead of what will fit into a 20 or 50 minute TV episode.

ManicNarcissism said...

Not to be nitpicky but it was one of the little tups that said "why are you throwing away daddy's things." Interestingly, there was nothing in the pile that resembled anything of Jon's. It was all broken toys down in the basement. Now, that could be editing because that is what they "showed" but there could have been something else off camera. Kate was cleaning up the attic space down there that looked like mainly tools and supplies.

I only clarify, because I think the statement is MUCH stronger if it was one of the 8 year olds.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Note to TLC: I am through with your network. There is nothing worth my time. American Chopper crossover to the Gosselins? How lame. Worse lame than when you did the Miami Ink crossover to American Chopper. More lame than the Kate - Say Yes to the Dress crossover.All of your shows are on their last legs, including What Not to Wear. If I were a stockholder, I would demand that terminations of key executives would be on the line.

Maelstrom said...

From Perez Hilton at http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-20-kate-gosselins-created-her-own-personal-hell

"...she's a money-grubbing famewhore!"

He's so astute.

sueshe said...

I said this before and I will say it again...I feel so, so sorry for Kate's parents. Can you imagine what they are going through watching the family crumble on tv? To see those precious grand kids growing up and not able to interact with them. They go to the grocery store, and upon check out, their daughter's face is plastered all over the magazine racks, and caption, "Mom to Monster". To then have to hear (whether it is true or not), that she has a "secret contract" with her husband that it is ok to have girlfriends, the marriage is over, just show up to be filmed. With her father being a pastor, I wonder what it must feel like to walk into church and look at the parishioners knowing they have read, watched his daughters life played out on tv and media. The pain has to be horrific.
When all is said and done, Kate will have all the money she wanted, but will be left with absolutely nothing in the friend or family department.
She made her bed, now she will have to lay in it...(of course....alone)!

Aimée said...

Wow - asked a question to E! online which I have asked before and actually got an answer!


http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/ask_the_answer_bitch/b125497_do_child_labor_laws_apply_jon_kates_kids.html

Midwest Mom said...

Here is a very nice article from my hometown, Wichita, Kansas, about another set of sextuplets.

http://www.kansas.com/news/story/824444.html

As you can see, this family is just thankful for what they have.

Note the part where these 'tups all share 1 BEDROOM and the mom & dad have no bedroom at all.

The mom & dad of these 'tups don't have their hands out asking for freebies, love offerings, book deals, etc.

And, the mom isn't standing at the kitchen window of a million-dollar estate proclaiming "All mine as far as the eye can see".....

JON & KATE, are you listening ?

IH8K8 said...

Can you email me and tell me which Tuttles you're talking about? I know of a few here locally. And The doc that sold them the house in my doctor. I'm actually going to see him for a check up next week and I'll ask him a few questions and see what he says. I'll definitly post back here on what happens with our conversation.
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The Tuttles are the father/son from the Orange County Chopper show, who just visited J&K, giving them each a bike.

Blessed Mama of 5 said...

Julie, I just wanted to say "thank you" for coming forward and being such a strong advocate for these children. I support you, Jodi and Kevin 100%. Thank heavens these little ones have some relatives who care about them. God bless you!

so irritated said...

mom2threecuties said...
"I just saw a picture of Kate on people.com (Pre-Season primer to the Gosselins) wearing a purple shirt - definitely a new boob job!"


Someone had last weeks copy of US with them at my son's baseball game. Knowing one of the moms from our team is a nurse in a plastic surgeon's office, I asked her to to look at Kate's new enhancments. Obviously, she's not a Dr. but she said that looked like a new but modest and well done augmentation. The giveaway is the fullness at the top of the bustline, giving them room to settle over months. She estimates they are a full C cup.
While I despise Kate and everything she stands for, I would also have my girls put back to where they were in 1992 if I could afford it. However, I'll take droopy boobs over not selling my children's souls any day.

Could she have had this done in February? She seemed to have some chunks of free time then.

JJ said...

lindahoyt, I agree about Jon and possible substance abuse/dependency issues. I don't know about the pain killers, but I have always sensed he was a bit of a drinker.

I think both him and Kate are heavily medicated right now. Kate is eerily calm and spaced out, and Jon constantly mumbles more than he used to. It's creepy.

However, I have to disagree with those saying Kate had a boob job. We are always shaming her for being away 21 out of the 30/31 days of the month, and we have proof that all of these signings and speaking occurred.

Now, pray tell, when could she have had the surgery AND recovery?

She's got money and a stylist. She's got herself a killer bra and perhaps some extra padding. There's no way she could have had even the most advanced, least-intrusive breast augmentation.

6kidsinpa said...

Just Be Nice Kate said...

So free motorcycles for both Jon and Kate? I have to wonder if this was just one perk that swayed Jon to stay on board.

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This is just what Jon needs - a motorcycle? He already is known to go out to bars and get drunk. It just takes one time for him to get on that cycle after a night out partying. There are NO helmet laws in Pennsylvania, and the back roads where they live are curvy, narrow and steep in places. Hey, this is one clever way for Kate to get rid of Jon - WITHOUT having to divorce him...

whenwilltheygetit said...

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/ask_the_answer_bitch/b125497_do_child_labor_laws_apply_jon_kates_kids.html

The legal reference in the article states that labor laws do not apply to children of 'reality tv' because producers are not requiring them to memorize lines, being taken away from their studies, or being taken away from socialization. IMO, this is where TLC/Figure 8 is walking a fine line with respect to child labor laws. First off, the PRODUCERS of the J & K reality show are Jon & Gosselin. So there is a conflict of compliance with respect to PRODUCERS and CHILD LABOR LAWS and PARENTS and CHILD LABOR LAWS. What happens when the PRODUCER AND PARENT are one in the same? The obligation of a producer to comply with child labor laws and or the right of the PARENT, in their role as PRODUCER to make choices/decisions as their role as a parent, that THEY feel are in compliance with the best interest of their minior children, regardless of what the LAW states. IMO, by allowing J & K to assume the double role as parent/producer of their own reality show removes their obligation to adhere to child labor laws because it is ASSUMED that the parents are looking after the best interest of their own children. IMO, ALL reality shows that involve minor children should be required BY LAW to have an appointed child advocate mediator on set at all times during filming! Simply because the entertainment is defined as 'reality' should not excuse or exempt the necessity for laws protecting and over seeing the rights, privacies and best interests of the MINOR children!!

ThreeFarmers said...

What I think is sad is that after all the episodes that have been produced, books that have been sold, and speaking engagements they have attended, Jon and Kate haven't invested the money in a way that would allow them to support themselves without the show.

The fact that they keep harping on about how they need the show to support that family just shows how stupid and/or greedy they are.

Surely by now, they could have invested in some sort of business or even furthered their education to the point where they could make a good living without the show.

To the previous poster who mentioned that they believe the children have benefited from the show, they may have benefited financially (which we won't really know until they come of age and learn whether any money has been set aside for them), but it has most certainly hurt them emotionally, hence the seemingly endless parade of meltdowns. Kids don't care about square footage. They don't care if their clothes come from Wal-Mart. And, they certainly don't care about Mommy's spa visits or Daddy's sports car.

Glen said...

Whenever Jon and Kate are in a public place, and Kate YELLS Johns name (like in the Crayola Crayon episode) I feel so embarassed for him. They should buy phones/radios with Push-To-Talk, like Nextels, so that she can walkie-talkie him instead of yelling across rooms of people.

tallblonde said...

Kate's hair (not Kate - just her hair *LOL*) has won the "not-an-honor" Hot Slut Of The Day title on dlisted.com:

Hot Slut of the Day:
Kate Gosslein's Hair - Last night, I had a dream about the tortured and electrocuted beaver on Kate Gosselin's head, so making it Hot Slut was the only thing I needed to do today. This was a long time coming and it had to happen. In honor of this momentous occasion, visit Buzzfeed.com to see their top 15 celebwhores with Kate's signature Tool Academy-approved coif!

Tina said...

My 8 year old loves the show. It is a good tool to teach her to appreciate me more--"Aren't you glad your mom isn't that mean?" But, I don't believe for one minute that the twins are clueless about the marriage issues. My child has asked me for 2 days if J&K were getting a divorce. She sees the covers of the mags at the stores and she knows there is a problem. These kids must be being tortured in school!

stunned said...

Julie,

Thank you for posting. I won't be watching the show anymore and hope for the children's best.

Do you think writing letters to the show's advertisers and TLC threatening to boycott would be useful?

Lisa said...

It is so obvious that J&K are both trying to recapture their "lost youth" that they spent rearing and "raising" their children. What is so hilarious to me is that they are so shocked that people are judging them for it - you put yourselves on TV! What father of 8 kids thinks it is totally normal to go out and "blow-off steam" at a bar at 11:00 pm when their spouse is not home? And what mother of 8 kids, 5 of them girls, deems it appropriate to begin dressing like a hooker in public on a regular basis? Talk about sending messages to your kids! They both look and act like such fools!

just wondering said...

Westcoaster66 said...
Some posters mentioned how Kate does not seem very close to her sons. I never noticed that before, it does make me wonder about what kind of issues these children will have once they start to enter their teens.

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Children of narcissists have pretty much 3 options.

They identify (grow up to also become a narcissist),

comply (try to be whatever it is they percieve that people want them to be),

or rebel (be oppositional even while not understanding why they are acting out)

None are healthy, and all will require therapy.

wramblinwreck said...

"The sad thing is the Gosselin kids are having to be sacrificed to get these laws born."

Unfortunately, that's the way it is. The laws protecting child actors weren't enacted until the horror stories began to surface about parents who had squandered the money their children had earned. It may be too late to help the Gosselin kids, but their greedy parents may provide legislators with all they need to create legislation for kids on "reality" TV.

GRY said...

IH8K8 said...

Can you email me and tell me which Tuttles you're talking about? I know of a few here locally. And The doc that sold them the house in my doctor. I'm actually going to see him for a check up next week and I'll ask him a few questions and see what he says. I'll definitly post back here on what happens with our conversation.
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The Tuttles are the father/son from the Orange County Chopper show, who just visited J&K, giving them each a bike.

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That's the last thing J&K need, more freebies, these are custom bikes are normally very, very expensive since they're more like works of art then standard bikes.
Seems like TLC is showering them big time for all the buzz being generated.
Of course the kids get nothing and will probably end up with nothing when they turn 18. Just a hunch.

4thekids said...

Quick and shallow rant: I'm beyond p-o'd that Jon is wearing my school's shirt during the birthday party.

cassandrau said...

The Dilleys, who were actually one of the first sets of sextuplets to get a lot of media attention, are from and currently live in my hometown. They go to my old high school, which is a crappy public school that everyone is forced to attend because there are no private schools in the area.

Oprah, I believe, built the Dilleys a house in nearby Berne to accomodate all the children, but then, UNLIKE JON AND KATE, all the media attention disappeared, and Oprah didn't think that hey, maybe they won't be able to afford the upkeep on this house. So now, they live in a 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath house downtown.

The point is, they got freebies, but honestly, I don't remember them requiring them. Granted, I was fairly young when they were born, so I wasn't paying attention to the media. But from what my parents say, it was all set up by the church and not by them. Any attention they received was not expected by them.

I guess they just appeared on that Food Network special, but I didn't watch it. I have no idea who approached who on that one (I'm away at university so I don't get the gossip. ;))

I will say, though, that the sextuplets in my high school think they are pretty hot stuff just because they are sextuplets. Soooooooooo just imagine how the Gosselins are going to think of themselves...they've gotten 100 times the publicity that the Dilleys have.

cassandrau said...

4thekids said...
Quick and shallow rant: I'm beyond p-o'd that Jon is wearing my school's shirt during the birthday party

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Heyyyyyyyyy you go to IU? Me too! My boyfriend and I are still wondering why exactly he was wearing that shirt. Like, did someone send it to him or what? Or did he ........ with some IU girl? ;)

ajh said...

random question - does PA not have helmet laws? I know it's hardly the worst thing J&K have ever done, but that pic of Jon riding the motorcycle with no helmet just makes me cringe.

Grosse Pointe Mom said...

The Sunday Detroit Free Press has an article in their features section entitled "Jon and Kate Should Take A Break".
Conclusion: If they won't end the show, the viewers should by no longer watching.
www.freep.com
jhinds@freepress.com

marypoppins said...

cassandrau said...
The Dilleys, who were actually one of the first sets of sextuplets to get a lot of media attention, are from and currently live in my hometown. They go to my old high school, which is a crappy public school that everyone is forced to attend because there are no private schools in the area.

Oprah, I believe, built the Dilleys a house in nearby Berne to accomodate all the children, but then, UNLIKE JON AND KATE, all the media attention disappeared, and Oprah didn't think that hey, maybe they won't be able to afford the upkeep on this house. So now, they live in a 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath house downtown.
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The Dilleys were America's first sextuplets.

Oprah built them a house???
I have NEVER heard that

I read their parents book and they had one of those custom built houses modified for their needs- extra space in the kitchen etc.
The did move from that house to another.

The parents deliberatly choose not to be in the spot light and limited the number of public appearences.

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