Free Discussion 5/2 - 5/8

Please use this post for discussion about the Gosselins that doesn't have a better spot elsewhere. This is where all those I don't know where to post it comments go also. Thank you.

Sorry this is late. I got distracted last night and didn't finish.

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Aunty KimKim said...

Has anyone else heard about Jon's smoking,,,,,????
I've heard it a few times, but just wondered if others had heard about it too?
They've done a great job hiding it for this "great Christian" and "perfect TV couple".

YOu know what bothers me the most? Yes, how the children are being treated, but next in line, is how tons are stating how wrong Jon is for cheating. Well, how about Kate? She's had a steady 'lover' for months now,..and who's to say she wasn't the first to 'stray' away from the marriage...why are things always blammed on Jon..

If I were him, and a 'guy', (which I'm not), if I had done everything in my power, (considering I was an emotionally abused spouse, which IMHO I believe Jon is---as someone can only last so long in an abusive relationship before they get help and leave, OR act out--maybe he couldn't leave due to the contract--who knows?)

Ophs sorry, got off topic...but If I had done all possible in my PRESENT emotional state,..I wouldn't be acting rationally...I truly believe JOn is acting this way due to the abuse he's taken for years...I truly believe he's looking anywhere for support...be it wrong or right...I'm not to judge..
BUT I hate that Jon is taking most of the blame, when Kate's had a lover for months.

It's all coming out bit by bit...but I WISH I knew how the children were really doing...
IS THERE any one out there who can report on the children and how they are? How they are doing emotionally/spiritually/etc.?? How are they in school? I truly hope these 'Nannies" are giving lots of love/hugs/ support!!!

Say, does anyone have any report on how the last few 'tetantive' and 'booked' apt.s went..the ones for the end of APril and this weekend??

Thankyou all! God Bless those children...I really hope someone can intervene NOW!

Alexiswazfirst said...

Aunty KimKim,

Who is kate's steady lover ur talking about?

ML in PA said...

I was at the PA Women's show and saw Kate speak and Jon just sit there like a bump on a log. She spoke for about 45 minutes. She looked very pretty in a pink sleevless dress and black strappy pumps. She was tan, not orange like some people report. I still don't get her hair in the back. It is very odd. All she talked about was her pregnancy with the tups. Nothing new. What made me throw up in my mouth a little was when she said that they agreed to do the two hour long specials in the beginning is because then they would have their memories recorded because they didn't have time to videotape their children. Yeah right, I'm sure the money had nothing to do with it when just a few minutes earlier she was going on and on about how they didn't have any money once the tups were born.

The bodyguard was there. He is handsome, kinda short and thin. Not what a bodyguard would look like. At one point he went up to a tween girl sitting in the audience because he thought she was videotaping them, but it was just a camera phone.

I did not stand in the huge line for Kate's autograph (Jon was not signing). People were actually lining up in the autograph line before they even started talking. I was surrounded by sheeple just praising them and talking about how wonderful they are and talking about the kids like they knew them personally. People were saying that they know where they all go to school and one lady claimed that she staked out the E-town house before they moved all day, but never saw them. What a psycho!! I also saw people with presents for them. That is just creepy!

I was talking to one of the vendors at the show and she told me that she heard over the walkie talkies that the workers had that when Kate got there she requested Fiji bottled water at room temperature. What a diva!

All in all, I think the whole thing was a waste of my time and am kicking myself for going. Oh well!

Treece said...

You know, not much I can say about the Gosselins. I used to like it at first, but now (even though I still watch), it's just getting kind of old.

I can't give you much information as my own information only comes from the internet and I don't know the Gosselin's personally. Digging more into the media I realized that about 99.5% of the things they say is flawed in some or another to make it "hot". I won't believe Jon cheated until he grows some balls, said he did it, and leaves...Think about that child support bill lol...OR they can ALWAYS go to family counseling and Jon can express his feelings without being b**** slapped.

I hope Jon is not smoking. That's a health threat to himself but more-so the kids. I really hope he isn't. Even if he steps outside, or opens a window, all that smoke is clinging to him and daddy must not smell good to be around.

I can honestly say, while I am glad to have found this blog and read about all these accusations, I just don't care to the extent of most of you do. The kids are fed, and they get to do most of the things I wish I could, though given the kids may forget by the age of 11. I have not had a perfect life myself and as a result I am not as "sound" as I wish I was but functioning. No one was there to "save" me, or change my parents mind, though without my mother who knows where I would be? So in a way I don't regret my childhood. There are so many kids (as a person /thinking/ of a social services career) who are not as healthy, who are not treated properly, etc, and unfortunately Jon & Kate is getting all of this unneeded attention. Now being female, and being attracted to the pretty lights of the media, I do agree it's hard to turn away, and just not say anything especially if you feel some injustice is going on here. Honestly...I've given up on companies. I am sure as my sex is female (so I am pretty sure. :D) that TLC could not care what anyone thinks as long as those ratings pile up. If they went down they'd pull the plug. My thoughts: "Companies make enemies, not friends." They are very impersonal (Oh thank you sociology. :D), and like all other media outlets, knows what draws the tv viewers in, and that's Kate's snotty attitude, the fact she chases 8 kids, and her obssesive need to clean. And to think it just started when she waas giving birth the second time and it blossomed. Watch out for Nadya Suleman on TV, for her sake and the kids, I think she needs it more than others.

Wow I just wrote a novel here, excuse me. :D

Deb said...

I'm honestly bugged when people say "we don't know what's happening, the tabloids throw things out of proportions". I used to think this too, until i worked in the entertainment field.

I will not name names, but there are TONS of HUGE A-list celebs that I have met and seen doing crazy, out of your mind things that no one even knows about. I have found out in my short life that the truth is ALWAYS better than fiction.

I have seen a famous couple known for their close-knit family with various lovers in their home.... some things that would make your eyes roll backwards.

So it's just my take on it that Kate and Jon are probably completely over each other and only putting on an act for television. I would not be surprised if he has taken MANY lovers and probably her as well.

Believe me, you are naive if you think the tabloids make this stuff up...they usually are very acute at finding out details and are the first to break the news before it happens with a celeb.

There could be tons going on with them and I wouldnt bat an eye... drugs, alcohol, partner swapping... it's all possible and very common in the world of show business.

stunned said...

Aunty KimKim said..
"an emotionally abused spouse, which IMHO I believe Jon is..."
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I agree with you, Aunty KimKim. As narcissists often do, Kate has emotionally and verbally abused Jon, and possibly even set him up. I cringe to think of the "narcissistic rage" (that's actually what it's called) the children have been exposed to--I only hope it hasn't been directed at them, but am afraid it probably has.

I have begun to think of Jon as a battered spouse. Maybe not physically, but battered just the same. May be one reason he wanders aimlessly around the mall--not allowed to go anywhere else except there & to the gym.

I have to wonder, too, if Jon's parents saw Kate's true nature. I read somewhere she's always been mean.

Luckily for him, she's gone on record on the Today Show, saying their relationship is "50-50..I couldn't do it without him." That should help come settlement time.

Run, Jon, and take your kids!

RacerMom281 said...

I just thought of something that made me throw up in my mouth a little. I remember in a few of the older epi's (when he was still allowed to get near her) that he would "purr" in her ear. How GROSS is that, who does that and think's it's sexy?

If Kate wasn't touring the country like she's a Rock Star, old Jon boy wouldn't have the chance to escape the manse and meet up with Babe. I would have LOVED to been a fly on the wall when the sh*t fan over that pic. I wonder if she clapped her hand's at him and told him nobody care's about him, she is the important one....like she did to her brother Kevin as reported on Jodi's sister's blog.

Isn't it amazing how a little money really changes a person? Although...when they lived in E-town, they were only about 30 minutes away from me. I heard from a few people that had worked with her or had interaction with her at the Med Center, and said she always did think she was something special. I doubt if she care's what we all think of her, she think's so highly of herself.

My5blessings said...

I am continually surprised when I read posts which do not hold Jon culpable for his own actions.

I have seen him treat his children in such abusive ways. Both verbally and physically. Jerking them around like little ragdolls, saying cruel and hurtful things to them. That has nothing to do with Kate and everything to do with Jon. Mind you, Kate is definitely no Mother of the year. As a matter of fact, she's no anything of the year. That doesn't negate Jon's behavior. Whether anyone considers him a victim of domestic abuse or not. He's a terrible excuse for a father.

I consider him as toxic to his children as Kate.

They both are in serious need of family counseling. Whether they stay married or do not stay married.

zoey said...

wait a sec.... Kate clapped her hands at Kevin and told him no one cared about him? what a bi***

MacKenzie said...

Does anyone know how Collin hurt/broke his hand? Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I didn't see it anywhere. I just recently saw the magazine photos and
Collin with a green cast on his fingers/hand.

Mother of Two (we wanted more, but couldn't afford the, and didn't expect others to support them through donations) said...

Stop the madness! The devoted followers of Kate remind me of Jim Jones followers in Jonestown.

Narcissism Please said...

deb-

i hear what you are saying ..about "the industry".. loud and clear.

one of my very best friends just ended a stint in l.a. as a stylist and THE STORIES SHE HAS TOLD.

holy crap.
not a doubt in my mind, whatsoever .. of the atrocities (and beyond) that transpire behind closed eyes, ears, and mouths.

and p.s.-
not a fan of the KONopoly, but..
i think it's kind of fair to consider them some-sort of celebrity [maybe above d-list] ..on account of the mass-amount of coverage they governed this week.

effing ridiculous as it was/is ... this crap was/is EVERYWHERE [CNN, EW, UsWeekly, everywhere else famous people are chronicled..], and you can't deny that.

DeeB said...

I TOTALLY agree with My5blessings! Cheating is a moral issue. Of course he is an abused husband; however, he has many options rather than acting out (whether it's actual cheating or not). He can leave. He can ask for counseling. He could talk to his pastor (if he still remembers his/her name). He can grow up or grow a pair. A man of character would not be behaving as he has been. IMO Jon is a disgusting human being and I can still hear him yelling at those children in the car as he is backing into the Outer Banks vacation house. Or I can hear him tell Aaden to act like a man or walk like a man or whatever stupid remark he made on the walk in the woods. I can see him angrily throwing Collin's treasures away and breaking his stick like a mad man. I can see him jerking his children around.
Of course every parent has their "I wish I hadn't done that" moments with their children but this is routine behavior for Jon; not just a once in a while slip up.

Like I said before, the only reason he gives them a bath, dresses them, puts them to bed or whatever else Kate tells him to do is because....Kate tells him to do it!!! He is as bad a parent as Kate and no matter how big a bitch she is (and she's a big one) that does not give him the right to act out and spend the evening with teenage girls or babe the wannabe. We are all responsible for our own actions. These two deserve each other and let me assure you Kate will never, ever be with a man who has a backbone. That's why she's with Jon in the first place.

Sharon said...

I just went on the Jon and Kate Facebook page, and spoke my mind. OMG, these people are scary. You would have thought I was talking about the Good Lord himself. The way they have kate up on a pedestal really makes me wonder what show they are watching. I hope they never find out where I live because they might bomb my house. The only thing I can think of, is that, maybe they are young and still idealistic.

Miss Brown Betti said...

A poster just brought to our attention that Mr.Grey was seen on the Utah trip sitting in the seat behind Kate and also seen on the roller coaster in Sesame Land. I do remember seeing him sitting behind Kate when she had her melt down. I remember feeling for the guy because he looked pretty freaked out and I thought that poor man has to listen to all of those children and Kate melting down. But now I realize that he was Mr.Grey.

RacerMom281 said...

My5Blessings...I totally agree that he is a piss poor excuse for a father, the hitting them with balls, knocking them down and then laughing about it, the death grip he did on Mady at Dutch Wonderland. As I recall he also grabbed Collin by the arm off the slide and held him that way till they got off to the side where he had his talk with him.

It doesn't matter that she is mean to him, or he is upset that he has to be Jon & Kate plus 8 instead of just Jon. It is totally wrong to be out with another woman, period. Friend or not. It is OK to go out and blow off steam, he should not be expected to be at home 24/7. What's not OK is the way he's going about it. I think he's always been a spoiled brat, and Kate acted like a mother to him, and now that she isn't around much....he's like a wild teenager whose parent's are away for a weekend and he's going to have a wild party. He already speaks like one...how he can hang with 15 year olds, and his "crib" And what parent in their right mind say their children are marketable?

At least the kid's are going to pre-school and getting some interaction with other children their own age. Hopefully the non-nanny and other helpers are a good, kind influence on them. Because with jacked-up parent's like them they are going to need it.

Thank You for this outlet, I've lurked here for many months and finally decided to post.

Betsy in PA said...

How about the latest issue of US magazine? The front cover is great, but the article is better! They've uncovered neighbors and others who have had personal experience with the family - and it isn't good. Finally, someone has managed to get the truth into a magazine that's seen by millions - and hopefully people will start seeing what they're all about. Way to go, US!!!!

Cynthia said...

Mother of Two I have thought the same exact thing. The world is filled with people who let other people control their thoughts and destiny. The sheeple IMO are comparable to the brain washed followers that you spoke of.

Donna said...

Just catching some of the episode where Mady and Cara are mom for the day. I saw a rare moment of loving from parent to child. When Jon accidently kicks the ball at Leah and it hits her hard, she starts to cry and doesn't like the dirty grass and he picks her up and kisses and hugs her. I just thought it was a cute moment.

It made me sad to think that I couldn't imagine Kate doing that.

And Mady was just scary in this episode. I really feel bad for that girl.

notafan said...

BUT I hate that Jon is taking most of the blame, when Kate's had a lover for months.Where is the proof that Kate has had a 'lover for months'? This is a pretty strong accusation.

Donna said...

Miss Brown Betti,

I'm just comparing pics that we've seen of the security guard from the Plane Trip to Utah episode and they don't really look the same to me. Minus the grey hair. Just my opinion--I guess it could be him, but I don't really see it.

Emma said...

I don't think we should be excusing Jon's behavior. He's a grown man and should know the difference between right and wrong.

I also think it's not fair to assume Kate has been cheating, despite how much we may not like her. Just because she has a body guard doesn't mean anything is going on between them. For the sake of the kids, we don't want to contribute to any more negative rumors about this family.

Treece said...

Oh I am in no way saying that the media is lying about EVERYTHING, IMO there is always something where I'm like "oh really", such as taking people's statements. And really..the swine flu...not as bad as the media is making it (Off-Topic). I would rather be naive than gullible...which really IMO is the same when it comes down to it! LOL.

I definitely saw that picture and I was talking about it to my friend. WHo in God's name with 8 kids at home, goes to talk to an owner at 2:00AM? And like another poster said (oh forgive my memory), he has no business partying with other women late at night.

I also did not notice how Jon acts, though I do see him as extremely loud with his kids at times. Does anyone suspect that he may be blowing his anger off at the kids who are rather defenseless...not Kate? I seem to have missed more episodes of Jon & Kate than I originally thought.

Also, I went to their website, and maybe Cara & Mady don't like to talk much, but why do they not have much on their "profiles" on the kid corner? Maybe I'm overreacting, but I think it's becoming less about the twins and more about the sixies. Cara's profile only said: "Hi, How are you?" and Mady's said something to the effect of I would like to tell you more about me...I was actually hoping to hear more about the twins because I hear the sextuplets all the time and I wanted to read up on Cara & mady...but I guess not. Am I overreacting?

Robin said...

I don't think Kate is going to put the Tups in school...they are going to be holed up at the Konpound like Michael Jackson's kids were in Neverland. How could Kate even send them off to school with commoners when she can't even be nice to them herself unless she's getting paid? I don't think public school is gonna happen. Plus people may ask the kids questions that they just might answer and blow this whole horrible charade out of the water....

Just my .02

Rachel said...

Is Jodi's sister's blog gone now? I'm kind of bummed I missed it when it first came out.

Magooey said...

This entire fiasco is just sickening!!

Sadly, I wasted my time and watched the Gosselins Go Green. Kate shows NO AFFECTION towards her children anymore.
When she left to "go to the store" Kate didn't even hug or kiss her children goodbye.
Sitting on the couch stating that she couldn't wait until summer when the kids "WOULD BE GONE" .......(then she quickly adds...."outside") and Jon makes a sad face!
Projects going on around the house and you can't handle it....WHY NOT PLAY WITH YOUR CHILDREN, instead of trading sarcastic barbs with Steve, or whatever his name is...?????

Kate is in such a crazy narcissistic state that she doesn't even feel the need to fake it anymore.
What I mean by that is....faking her love for Jon, faking her love for the kids that are no longer babies. Faking it for the SHOW or the sheeple that PAY for her books and go to see her.
She is in high shrew mode!

Jon, well, he never grew up! I also think that Kate just sucked the life force out of him.

Drinking, possibly cheating to fill the void in his life and he doesn't care anymore.

The kids are stuck in between a shrew, narcissistic, cold mom who is rarely home....and a father who I think loves his kids, but is not strong enough to be a good father and give them the strong foundation they need.

If they divorce, can you imagine how Kate is going to turn those kids against their dad??!!

Just waiting for the media circus to implode around these two idiots.

Okay...those are my random J&K thoughts for the day..lol
Have a great weekend! Magooey


P.S. BTW Mr. Gray is in the episode in which the Gosselins camp outside their house. You can see him for a brief moment when they are out on the lawn.
He is also in another episode where Jon and Kate are in church. Mr. Gray is sitting right next to them.

Miss Brown Betti said...

Donna,
I remember that scene that you mentioned when Jon picked little Leah up and loved her but did you see how Jane skip over to Leah? That did crack me up.

As per your research of Mr.Grey.
You may be right. Do keep us imformed.

letthetruthbetold said...

Wow ~ there are some very observant posters on this site....Mr Gray is on the flight to Utah and is sitting right behind Kate ! Good work !

Twinner'sTwin said...

Has anyone seen the "May is for Mothers" promo on TLC? I just caught it. Baby Alexis saying "mommy" in the sweetest voice. Kate rolling around on the floor with one of the baby boys. None with them looking older than 2 though.

Hmmm, Kate, Amy, Betty and Michelle. One of these things is not like the others.

Teryn said...

There are a few sheeple out there ( well, maybe more than a few ) who are saying things like if any other man went to a bar late at night, it wouldn't be news. Big deal.

I, personally, have no issue with a man going to a bar late at night. That's between him and his wife.

What I DO have a problem with is a man pimping his kids on tv and making a butt-load of money off them, and through the magic of editing, cons people into thinking he is a role model father, Christian, and upstanding man...and ultimately gets paid for that fabricated tv persona. What I have a problem with is being duped by someone who has chosen to be a public personality.

Their life is their show and their show is a lie! Realist reality show out there my behind.

beachluvin said...

Robin said...
I don't think Kate is going to put the Tups in school...they are going to be holed up at the Konpound like Michael Jackson's kids were in Neverland. How could Kate even send them off to school with commoners when she can't even be nice to them herself unless she's getting paid? I don't think public school is gonna happen. Plus people may ask the kids questions that they just might answer and blow this whole horrible charade out of the water....

Just my .02

5/02/2009 7:09 PM
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I think Kate was quoted saying at one of her "speaking engagements" that the tups were going to attend Junior kindergarten in the fall.

Keep in mind that the tuition for the school that the twins attend is $18,110/per child per year. So, they pay close to $40,000.00 a year for the twins tuition. If all 8 attend the same school the twins attend in the fall, they will be paying approximately $160,000.00 in tuition for one year. They sure do well for two parents that don't hold jobs.....I guess it's safe to say the kids are paying their own way.

imawonderer said...

Does anyone know who that girl is in the picture with Jon. I have scoured the internet trying to find out, but no one is talking about it. Weird, I figured money speaks and that the tabs would love to have that.

Rachel said...

Just had to add: after watching the "ugly moments" compilations on Youtube, I am very thankful to Kate. Why?

-She has made me appreciate my mother so much more. For being so patient, for never being anal retentive, for holding my vomit covered hand in Walmart after I threw up. She wasn't a perfect mother (who is?) but now I know just how great I had it!

And you know what make me absolutely furious? Kate doesn't deserve her wonderful children. I know people who can't have children and would love to have what she has. You can just see how her bad energy is affecting them.

Harriet said...

For the people who say it's no big deal and we shouldn't talk about Jon being out at a bar at 2 AM, what if it were Jim Bob Duggar, Matt Roloff, or Eric Hayes? Would that not be something that people would discuss? OK, or if it were Kate, Amy Roloff, or Betty Hayes?

Donna said...

Miss Brown,

Thats so funny, I didn't notice him skipping. But I'm not surprised!! lol :)

We said...

Magooey,

Great observation about Mr.Grey. I have to wonder why he would be present in the backyard when they were camping out. Why would they need a security/body guard if they were not out in public?


Twinner's Twin,

I remember that song.Good comparision.

Rachel,
Yes Jodi's sister's blog is still up but I never go to it anymore. There aren't many rules and it has turned into a trashy site from the sheeple.

Lucy said...

Robin said...
I don't think Kate is going to put the Tups in school...they are going to be holed up at the Konpound like Michael Jackson's kids were in Neverland. How could Kate even send them off to school with commoners when she can't even be nice to them herself unless she's getting paid? I don't think public school is gonna happen. Plus people may ask the kids questions that they just might answer and blow this whole horrible charade out of the water....

Just my .02





What kind of questions do you think people will ask? Do you mean kids in their class or the adults that work at the school? I'm pretty sure 5 year olds don't read gossip magazines or watch the news. And I'm guessing that if the staff and faculty want to keep their jobs they won't be asking kindergarteners nosy questions about gossip regarding their parent's marriage. Other parents may ask questions but I would hope that as an adult they would know better. I just can't believe that little kids would know what people are saying about Jon and Kate. Unless parents are gossiping about other parents with their 5 year olds……but what kind of parent would do that???? I mean, seriously??? I imagine that kids are watching the show because of the twins and sextuplets not Jon and Kate. But I could be wrong. My kid is one and all he watches is Handy Manny and Backyardigans so I don't really know! Anyway, sorry for rambling I was just genuinely curious!!!

Donna said...

Good point, Harriet. You are absolutely right. It would be a HUGE deal. Remember when Matt Roloff got a DUI? That was a really big deal for a while. But hey, at least he owned up to that mistake and is ultimately paying for by having his license taken away and speaking out against drunk driving on the show. Good for him.

ICSillyPeople said...

imawonderer said...
Does anyone know who that girl is in the picture with Jon. I have scoured the internet trying to find out, but no one is talking about it. Weird, I figured money speaks and that the tabs would love to have that.
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I've read else where bloggers have seen posts by Reading locals that have ID her by name. But, since it was second hand info the posters would not write it. I don't blame them! What they would say she is local, graduated from HS 2005 and is 22 years old.

Treece said...

Iamawonderer:

A recent article here: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276136,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines&cid=recirc-instyleRecirc

Has some more updates on the two, but no one has yet said who she was, and are leaving her as the "mystery woman", but John calls her a friend who wanted to see his car...

Treece said...

Honestly if it was Jim Bob Duggar I'd be quite stereotypical and believe whatever he says because I just would have a hard time believing it. I mean Jim Bob?! He loves his family!...I hope.. If it was Kate I think I'd be shocked on some level because I just think she would be better than that...then again these are not normal circumstances: I.E. TV that's bringing you in money.

But that's just me. It's interesting reading everyone's different thoughts and Opinions

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HannaBelleLechter said...

DeeB said...IMO Jon is a disgusting human being and..I can hear him tell Aaden to act like a man or walk like a man or whatever stupid remark he made on the walk in the woods.DeeB, I remember thinking at the time that Jon symbolically was actually talking to himself, rather than to Aaden! Wishing that he himself could walk like a man or talk like a man or act like a man. Projecting his own securities onto his innocent littly boy.

Treece said...Also, I went to their website, and maybe Cara & Mady don't like to talk much, but why do they not have much on their "profiles" on the kid corner? ... Cara's profile only said: "Hi, How are you?" and Mady's said something to the effect of I would like to tell you more about me...I was actually hoping to hear more about the twins because I hear the sextuplets all the time and I wanted to read up on Cara & mady...but I guess not. Am I overreacting?Treece, do what I do and consider the silence to be a blessing for those children! IMHO, all the children are overexposed on tv and in the public's eye. The day that Mady and Cara start filling in profiles or opening their own Facebook pages will be a sad day. I think there are too many crazies in the world. And all we need is one to break through the perimeter of safety that the Gosselins hope they've built around their children.

In fact, when this latest news of Jon and Babe broke, I thought about the safety issue again. I had no concern that Jon had left the kids unattended; I knew a nanny would be there in the house.

But is the place protected by alarms, security? Do they think the two German Shepherds are deterrent enough? Suppose, God forbid, someone or something broke into the home at 2am. Kate away; Jon at play. The nanny with 8 children? I hope there's a panic button-alarm or something.

No, the longer the twins stay off social-networking sites, the better. Don't forget the episode where Kate didn't even want Mady to take a phone call from a school friend! I'm hoping Kate and Jon both, no matter their marital problems, continue to be strict about net access for ALL the kids.

Robin said...I don't think Kate is going to put the Tups in school...they are going to be holed up at the Konpound like Michael Jackson's kids were in Neverland.Before all their troubles became public, many observers said they thought Kate would homeschool. I, OTOH, NEVER thought Kate would homeschool any of the kids.

Homeschooling is a commitment of time and energy, patience and self-sacrifice. Kate doesn't fit that profile.

IF the G's decide to shelter their kids from school and the world, they'd have to hire another person to do it for them in the house. I would hope they'd hire a certified teacher. If not, then, at least, a college-educated person with experience dealing with the early-childhood years.

Are the G's willing to pay an annual salary, w/benefits and paid vacation, etc, for an in-home teacher? I guess if they do a cost-ratio analysis of those costs versus religious school tuition for 8 kids, perhaps.

All I know is Kate will NOT be a personal homeschooler. She LOVES being free and out there on her own. She's a legend in her own mind, and she's not going to be stuck in the house, with runny-nosed kids, teaching lessons. JMHO.

Anyway, I think Jon and Kate both are two of the most ignorant people in public life today. Neither of them strikes me as "education-first"-type people. Neither can finish a thought or use vocab or syntax properly. Both remind me of Valley teens, with the use of "like" every other word. "Like, I want to, like, see if, like, Babe really, like, likes me, you know? Like, is she as hot for me, like, as I am for her, likedy-like-like-like," as Jon might say. ;D

Kate is just as bad. She makes up words by adding "-ish" as suffixes because she can't think of the proper word. "Stop being obsessive-ish," she said to one of the boys who couldn't find his toy (which was in the dog's belly!). And as much as she jumps on Jon to correct his grammar, she's just as bad. "Between he and I...." is a regular phrase out of her mouth. Like nails scraping a chalkboard to me!

Treece said...

HannBelle: You are so right. i was not thinking about that. Cara & Mady...Mady especially as she needs someone to talk to badly...need the privacy and not their business everywhere even though it was just their website. but it just came across as odd to me. I know the twins feel left out when they do certain activities so that just came to me as "They're left out on everything" Thanks for answering that. :D

beachluvin said...

What kind of questions do you think people will ask? Do you mean kids in their class or the adults that work at the school?
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I think the tups would more than likely "volunteer" information that Jon, Kate and TLC would not want out. For example, can you imagine them "playing house?" One pretending like they are mom and another playing dad saying something like "Jon, I told you not to come in my room!" or if one of the kids tells another that their parents don't sleep in the same house anymore....

Can you imagine the shock on my face when I asked my daughter what she decided to "share" in their special share time in kindergarten when she told me that she told everyone that mommy found worms in her baby brothers diaper? Yes, my son had a case of pinworms...gross...I know! LOL!.....I miss those days! Kate should really shape up or she is going to miss out on so much of her children's lives.

HannaBellLechter said...

"Thanks for answering that.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You're welcome, Treece. :) You sound like a lovely person who truly cares for the twins and for all the kids.

I believe that is why 98% of us read and comment here. The children's welfare is always uppermost in our minds. Take care!♥

Mother of Two (we wanted more, but couldn't afford them, and didn't expect others to support them through donations) said...

I live in southern Orange County, California, next to Coto de Caza, where the Real Housewives of Orange County is filmed. Kate Gosselin seems to be emulating the Orange County housewives (the most un-Christian-like women you could imagine). Kate lives in rural Pennsylvania, but wants a sun-tan in the winter. What does that have to do with raising 8 small children who need their mother's love and attention? How can Kate be so self-absorbed and superficial when she has a child like Mady literally screaming out for help? The fact that Kate is passing herself off as a good Christian wife and mother is what drives people insane. The fact that Dr. Phil and Oprah allow Kate on their shows to up her hypocritical Christian book sales, and then actually refer to Kate as a child-rearing expert is beyond the pale. Let me tell you, 99.99% of the people here in supposedly superficial and self-absorbed Orange County, California look like Mother Teresa compared to Kate Gosselin...

sj said...

I can only imagine how Kate must be tormenting Jon over the US weekly pictures. First of all, where did he meet his friend Babe? They couldn't even come up with people they know to come to the Hawaii vow renewal ceremony and now Jon has a 'friend'. And then there's the tricky scenario of how it's now been proven Jon has a new expensive car. Gee, I wonder if that came from the retirement fund/college funds/whatever that they tell the Sheeple their donations are going toward. And also, who in the world was home with the kids while Kate was away and Jon was at the bar? Not - a - Nanny? Hmmmm. For people with no nanny and eight kids Kon sure gets out a lot. It is SO obvious what is going on with these people, but the sheeple will never accept it. They probably have themselves convinced the grandparents are watching them. I'm convinced 90 percent of Sheeple are people who treat their own families like crap and identify with Kate. I can just imagine how a sheeple would process this story: Well, first Jon decided to go out. He deserves it because he works all day and does the show and since he won that tiny car at a penny auction he had 4.72 cents in his pocket to go and get a chocolate malted at the soda counter. Then, as a girl scout approached him to ask if he'd like to buy a box of mint thins, paparazzi in ninja costumes jumped out of the shadows to frame him and take pictures! Sure Kate will be livid and nuts when she sees the pictures but this is UNDERSTANDABLE. The woman has eight kids! Clearly you're just jealous if you think she's a bitch.

Robin said...

beachluvin...that is exactly what I meant...thanks for clarifying it for me!

I certainly don't think Kate will homeschool her kids...my Lord no! Her kids are "child starts" so they will probably be schooled at home by a teacher.

Treece said...

You're welcome, Treece. :) You sound like a lovely person who truly cares for the twins and for all the kids.

I believe that is why 98% of us read and comment here. The children's welfare is always uppermost in our minds. Take care!♥
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Thanks again HannaBelle. I care about all kids in general (since I was one myself), but quite honestly I am just happy that the kids have a place to live in the least even though the surrounding circumstances are IMO less than favorable. But I am at times very worried about Mady & Cara the most. Anywho, you (and all other posters) have a nice night. *Must Get Sleep...Must Break Away From Computer!* :D

Treece said...

"...He deserves it because he works all day and does the show ...Then, as a girl scout approached him to ask if he'd like to buy a box of mint thins, paparazzi in ninja costumes jumped out of the shadows to frame him and take pictures!..."

SJ: That was very great lol. I think we should look at the fact that the people who do relate to them, really DON'T want these allegations to be true (all the wives may be looking at their husbands closely now, LMAO), but uh yeah...2:00 AM...Bad Judgement...Right...Because he just HAD to see the manager at 11:00 PM. Even if he wanted the kids to be asleep first he could have: A) Done it during Nap Time (Because In The Show, They do this. :D). B)Or if he's working, He could have went after the kids were asleep which SHOULD be around 8:00 PM according to the show. Or go when he's off work. And as far as I gather, he doesn't even work anymore so he should not have anything to do...

Very contradicting especially since other people say: "Oh all he talks about is his wife and kids!" Then there's: "He was so drunk he couldn't even walk!" So who to believe? I am VERY against drunken fathers. When kids are born alcohol should not be in your agenda to the point of drunkeness especially when other adults are not around (Kate). Too much experience with a drunk father here and that's extremely irresponsible, assuming he was drunk...and assuming he sent the nanny home when he himself got home...

Okay Seriously...I'm going to sleep.

GagMeWithASpoon! said...

I think it's another setup for us. The news in Feb brought such good ratings for the Finale....is this not doing the same thing now, and the ratings for Season 5 will be outtasight! Never mind fuming - Kate probably planned it herself, and we will later find out we were duped again! And we all seem to think the kids are home with "notta"...could they be travelling with Kate?

Mother of Two (we wanted more, but couldn't afford them, and didn't expect other people to support them through donations) said...

I feel most sorry for Hannah, who is so obviously favored by Kate. The poor child had migranes when she was 3. Who has migranes when you are 3? (unless of course, you have bright lights and cameras in your face all day, grown men filming you naked on mass-marketed DVDs which are available for the general public to buy...yuk...you get the idea). Anyone old enough to remember the Smothers Brothers routine: "Mom always liked you best"? Hannah is never going to be able to get past that. Mady is never going to let her forget it. Also, I feel bad for all the children, as Kate so despises Jon, and they all resemble Jon, I believe this will further cause Kate to not like the kids. For the boys, that's a double-whammey. The migrane doctor's best advice for Hannah: the less time you spend with your mother, the less migranes you will have...but that goes for anyone who has ever been around Kate. Just ask Jon.

Mother of Two (we wanted more, but couldn't afford the, and didn't expect other people to support them through donations) said...

This site, and the Jon and Kate saga in general, are fascinating in a sociological way. Jon and Kate's story epitomizes injustice in a country in the throws of a financial recession. While everyone is trying to make do with less and smaller, Jon and Kate want more, and bigger. Jon and Kate are rewarded with millions of dollars and adoring fans for being blatantly irresponsible (having multiple sets of multiples when they couldn't even afford a single child without financial support from Jon's father). Then, they go on to be glorified as experts in family life and parenting skills (they clearly are not good parents and have a dysfunctional family, to put it mildly). The ultimate rub is Jon and Kate professing their Christian values (while appearing to have the soul of say, Bernie Madoff, rather than the soul of say, Christ). To be a Christian is, by definition, to be Christ-like. Do you see anything Christ-like in Jon or Kate's lives or actions? Why is this sham allowed to continue? Jon and Kate are so obviously frauds...it's just unbelievable they just continue on raking in the money...when is the madness going to stop?

justmyopinion said...

I was in the market for another book to read.You can all mark my words it won't be anything written by Kate Gosselin a.k.a beth carson or any of the other Helpers that put together her second book.I'll be looking for something that may enlighten me.give me a new prospective on things(maybe like that book Losing Hazel)it seems from the description to be a pretty inspiring story.Unlike the redundant"look at me and my kids"that Kate keeps dishing out.

Robin said...

Recent article about their appearance together ...LOVE the comments!

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/05/jon_and_kate_find_a_welcoming.html

Chris said...

I'm not naming any names on this one. A number of years ago a rather well known actor filed suit for custody of his nephew because he felt that his sister was an unfit mother. I wonder if any of the Kreiders or Gosselins are willing to throw themselves under the bus to protcts these kids from their unfit parents?

HannaBelleLechter said...

I've asked this question before with no luck, so I'm wondering if anyone here has more info to share:According to this website:https://www.metroparent.com/index.php?action=metro_event&id=1762

Kate will be in Detroit on May 14th for two separate appearances, or, as the description calls them, "performances." Egad!

The evening appearance at a church offers tickets for 37.50 and 28.00. Her topics are “Six Lessons Learned” and “Tips For a Stress Free Home.” Love the second one! lol. No mention of how many $28 seats are available, but there are 500 seats available at the $37.50 price (book not included but available for purchase). If all seats are taken, it will net Kate $18,750. That church must be one of those megachurches.

However, the 3pm act, "Tea with Kate Gosselin," will cost you $150.00. Yeah. $150.00. It's at the Henry Ford Hospital, and it's described as "an intimate tea."

You get tea, your choice of either of her books (but not both), and I guess a little closer access to MrsG since there are only 80 seats available? Other than that, I cannot figure out the legitimacy of such a high ticket cost. Participants will have the op to sign up for a tour of the hospital's labor and delivery wing at a later date. It's not as though Kate's giving a private tour on May 14th.

N.B.: 80 seats @$150 equal $12K. Add that to the 500@$37.50 and the total is over $30K for the day. And that doesn't even include the cheaper $28 tix. I wonder how much cut Kate has negotiated? Maybe 100 percent; maybe the PR firm is on retainer? $30K+ is a lot of money for a whole lot of nothing, imho. Look at this way, Kate's one day of work paid for Jon's Nissan.

Help me out. Anybody know anything about the reasons for that exorbitant ticket price? Oh, btw, you need to click on "Buy Tickets" to see the price for the intimate tea session; it's a state secret (or a Kate secret, I guess).

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Kate is too smart to let her shall we say indescretions come to light. I just hope for the sake of the kids Jon finally grows a pair and realizes who or what he is married to and takes further action because he is way better than her.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Major props to those who were observant to remember Mr. Grey has been in previous episodes. He obviously is not the literary agent because Beth, ummm, I mean Kate, hadn't written the book when the Utah and the Sesame episodes were filmed. I think he started as a production assistant and evolved into something *more*. Now he is with Kate when she is not filming the show, on personal business. There is one picture of him really looking at Kate with admiration. If he was a body guard his job would be to look into the crowd to make sure no one was coming on stage while Kate was speaking. I have a feeling it is Mr Grey who is always off camera when Kate is being filmed for the show now with Jon "off helping his Mom".

tinamarie said...

this was in our local Harrisburg paper today(hopefully the link works)http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/05/jon_and_kate_find_a_welcoming.html

Koopdedoo said...

Mr Gray has been around for a while? Hmmmm...

I thought K8 was flirting with someone in the show where they went back to finish packing up the old house (2 months later?)...the show was a lot of just her talking/flirting to the camera - she didn't want the kids near her.

I really don't give a flip what K8 or Jon are doing.

Other than "the show is our life, our life is the show" BS...do you think they told the kids that the show was now becoming pretend? Young children don't necessarily make the switch between reality and make-believe smoothly.

I am HOPING there is a competent, caring adult taking care of the children while the 2 dips are off being teenagers in separate places.

Michelle said...

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/05/02/sbt.john.kate.drama.cnn


Nice little blip about the current situation. The sad part of the story is at the end when it's revealed that this is a great PR event for TLC as it will only bring more viewers to watch as the drama unfolds. If TLC had any sense, they would pull the plug on this show, let the idiots straighten out their marriage, or end it as it will probably be, and let things settle down. Maybe they can do an annual 2 hour show that would bring big ratings and give an update as to what is going on in their lives now. It's just such a sad sad event. One that will haunt J & Hate for now but their kids forever. They are the true victims in this disaster waiting to unfold.

Marsha said...

We said: Yes Jodi's sister's blog is still up but I never go to it anymore. There aren't many rules and it has turned into a trashy site from the sheeple.Jodi's sister has never allowed comments on her blog. The link to her blog is included under related links on this blog.

MM2005 said...

Donna,
Actually Matt Roloff was found not guilty of the DUI but his license was suspended because he refused the breath test.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/01/14/matt-roloff-found-not-guilty-of-dui/

Guilty or not guilty, if he refuses the test he loses his license -- implied consent -- my State has the same rule -- you agree when you get your license.

His explanation for refusing the test he discussed on the two episodes that TLC filmed of the trial (as I recall, it has to do with inaccurate readings on little people.) I am not defending him, I am only pointing out that he, unlike Jon, put it all out there for the viewers to see, and he freely offered an explanation.

Amy was by his side throughout the trial. And, his children were undoubtedly embarrassed by the negative publicity. Once parents make a decision to have their children's lives displayed on TV, they, at the minimum, owe their children exemplary parental behavior.

Jon's actions are flat-out inexcusable. They place his children in a position of emotional pain and possible public ridicule. This is his second drunken adventure and his actions speak volumes about his character.

Kate is "horrendously, horrendous," but this has nothing to do with her. If he is unhappy he should do something to fix or end the relationship. We are in charge of our actions, no one else.

And, I too agree with the poster who stated that an author stays for the entire "book signing" event. Whether turnout is heavy or not, if you agree to two hours, you stay the entire two hours. Her word apparently means nothing.

Ava's Mommy said...

I thought that this women’s pa show they were not allowed to take photographs? Were was Mr. Gray or the other body guards to take the pictures away? Another thing Kate dress makes her look like she is a little bit more top heavy than other interviews. Unless she is just wearing a pushup bra. Not surprised by the people’s stories that went. Same redundant story line. BLA BLA BLA.
Sometimes it just makes me wonder how can Jon and Kate keep there head up high and look their selves in the mirror every day?

Oh has anyone seen that Jon is coming on the today show with Kate may 7th. I swear it wasn’t in the cards a week ago but since the drama hit the fan he will be there. Interesting.. Anyways Kate probably will just talk briefly about this controversy and how GOD is helping them through this dilemma. Even though the woman is never home to even have a sit down meeting with her husband and children.

Off the subject ranting on.. Kate’s book touring.. Is she going to be at this still the end of summer? Then A new book coming up soon to .. The cook book. Well not until Fall really. But that means Kate will be gone during the fall and winter. Basically Kate is isolating herself from her family because of these book tours.

Oh another thing I’ve been noticing on Mz Kate.. This cookbook/craft idea book. Doesn’t that sound like something aunt Jodi would do? Big house, Cars, Decorating Skills, Tanning, Spa mommy treatments, Four-wheeler’s and Fashionable clothing taste.. Doesn’t that sound like Beth and Family. Kate is a Typical Copycat.. Jon is the same way. Anything

thanks for reading all.. take care

Jimmy said...

With all that is going on with the G's--I wonder if the adoption theory is out the window. Or if Jon wanted out of the whole mess if Kate tried talking him into adopting?

Just a thought---

ilovemykids said...

Jon and Kate, a house built on a card of lies who soon come tumbling down - and it gas started already.

I just pray someone steps forward and advocates for those children, because their parents could care less. It's obvious that Kate has checked out of the Mom and wife role and Jon can't handle the pressure of being the sole parent to 8 children.

Michelle said...

've asked this question before with no luck, so I'm wondering if anyone here has more info to share:According to this website:https://www.metroparent.com/index.php?action=metro_event&id=1762

Kate will be in Detroit on May 14th for two separate appearances, or, as the description calls them, "performances." Egad!

I went to this website and checked this out. The 38.00 tickets allow you into the autograph session. The 28.00 do not. She is getting an extra 9.00 to pen her useless signature.

Someday it will all be over. Kids are only cute for so long before they are just kids and then preteens and then teens and hopefully old enough to say no more.

voice said...

Yes Jodi's sister's blog is still up but I never go to it anymore. There aren't many rules and it has turned into a trashy site from the sheeple.Are you talking about Truth Breeds Hatred? If so, it hasnt been updated since October so it hardly has turned into a 'trashy site from the sheeple'. And even if it did, if you 'never go there' how would you know?

Jen K said...

If "Babe" is such a good platonic friend, why does he have to see here at 2am at a bar when Kate is away instead of at 10am at the house when Kate is there to see her too?

Jon is so screwed....who in their right mind would believe "Babe" is just a friend. Please. Gullible much, fans?

And? said...

Chris said...

I'm not naming any names on this one. A number of years ago a rather well known actor filed suit for custody of his nephew because he felt that his sister was an unfit mother. I wonder if any of the Kreiders or Gosselins are willing to throw themselves under the bus to protcts these kids from their unfit parents

________________________________

Were they successful in getting custody?

stunned said...

HannaBelleLechter said...
"Her topics are...and “Tips For a Stress Free Home.” Love the second one! lol."
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Hey HannaBelle,

Is her best tip: never be there?

;-)

tallblonde said...

If Jon was smart - okay, don't flame me, I know that's wishful thinking *LOL* - he'd be negotiating "behind the scenes" with another publisher to write a "tell all" book of life with Kate.

At least he'd had an independent income for once in his life.....

ICSillyPeople said...

HannaBelleLechter said...
I've asked this question before with no luck, so I'm wondering if anyone here has more info to share:

Kate will be in Detroit on May 14th for two separate appearances, or, as the description calls them, "performances." Egad!
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I thought both events were fund raisers. At the very least the $150 is.

swissmiss said...

Someone mentioned that Jon and Kate pay tuition at a private school for the twins.

I read somewhere that the girls are on a scholarship, but I have no idea if this is actually correct.

nanasez said...

"But is the place protected by alarms, security?"
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On a recent episode, I saw the keypad for a home security system located by the front door. So it appears that they do have an alarm system. I'm glad, since the twins' room is in a whole separate wing of the house, with its own staircase easily accessed by the second front entrance on the house (the one that opens into the man-cave with the huge home theater system.

Though I'm betting that by the time she's a teen, Mady will have the code to the system and will be sneaking out!

Maude said...

HannaBelleLecter asked about the tea with Kate.

I live in the Detroit Metro area, but all I can tell you about her appearance is that its at the new Henry Ford Hospital. It just opened a few months ago. It is the medical equivelant to a five star hotel. Fancy rooms, chefs, up-scale gift shops, beautiful gardens. When I saw reports on my local news all I could do was shake my head and wonder who would think its a good idea to promote something like this in the present economy. A luxury hospital...whatever.


Sorry if this is not exactly the info you were looking for, but thats my thoughts on the $150 price tag. Why they want Kate; I've no clue. I can't figure out why anyone would want her for anything!

Marie France said...

Chris said...
I'm not naming any names on this one. A number of years ago a rather well known actor filed suit for custody of his nephew because he felt that his sister was an unfit mother. I wonder if any of the Kreiders or Gosselins are willing to throw themselves under the bus to protcts these kids from their unfit parents?
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EXCELLENT question, Chris! I have been wondering for ages when these family members are going to step up to the plate and try to put an end to the nonsense KON is putting their kids through!

Rach said...

Jimmy,

Jon and Kate were kidding themselves when they said they may be considering adopting a Korean baby. No adoption agency would allow the parents of 8 children to adopt a child. There's a limit to how many children you can have in order to be eligible for adoption.

RealMom said...

Tips for a stress-free home: Welcome the TV cameras into your home so that everyone in the world knows everything about your family's life and you have no privacy. So when your parents f up one day, you can know your business is being splashed all over magazines with big pictures of them with other people. Yeah that is a very healthy, stress-free type of life anyone would want and many would pay to hear about.

ICSillyPeople said...

Chris said...
I'm not naming any names on this one. A number of years ago a rather well known actor filed suit for custody of his nephew because he felt that his sister was an unfit mother.
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If this is the case I'm guessing at, the situation was one of the mother having a drug addiction. I believe they lost the case and the child stayed with the mother.

Though $$$$ is a drug, there is little evidence of child abuse or endangerment because of it.

tallblonde said...

Well it MUST be true about Mr Grey/Bodyguard taking Jon's place.....look who's carrying the purse in this picture! ;-)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uMNdiBPKhNQ/Sf0FXc37hzI/AAAAAAAAA4U/SxXyollCTEw/s1600-h/kate3.com

My5blessings said...

That was very great lol. I think we should look at the fact that the people who do relate to them, really DON'T want these allegations to be true (all the wives may be looking at their husbands closely now, LMAO), but uh yeah...2:00 AM...Bad Judgement...Right...Because he just HAD to see the manager at 11:00 PM. Even if he wanted the kids to be asleep first he could have: A) Done it during Nap Time (Because In The Show, They do this. :D). B)Or if he's working, He could have went after the kids were asleep which SHOULD be around 8:00 PM according to the show. Or go when he's off work. And as far as I gather, he doesn't even work anymore so he should not have anything to do...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Or if she's truly "just a friend" he could have invited her to their home when his wife was there so she could * see his new car*

sj said...

Though $$$$ is a drug, there is little evidence of child abuse or endangerment because of it.
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If a custody war ever broke out between Jon and Kate, Jon would have a great chance of winning. It would be very easy to prove that he's the primary caregiver. They've even given magazine interviews where Jon says he's a stay at home dad.

Bannod said...

tallblonde said...
If Jon was smart - okay, don't flame me, I know that's wishful thinking *LOL* - he'd be negotiating "behind the scenes" with another publisher to write a "tell all" book of life with Kate.

At least he'd had an independent income for once in his life.....


_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Now that's a book I'd read!

SmartyQ said...

I don't believe it's a secret that, in 1987, Mark Harmon sued his sister Kristin for custody of her 13-year-old son Sam. He believed that Sam was not being adequately cared for following the death of the teen's father, Rick Nelson, in 1985. Kristin had struggled with alcoholism and drugs. Sam remained in the care of his mother.

I'm just sayin said...

The Gosselins Go Green?

How about Kate Goes Grey?

Emma said...

"If Jon and Kate Gosselin have sold their children’s privacy, we the viewers are the guilty buyers"

We need to stop watching the show and giving it any attention by discussing it so much!! When the ratings go down the show will end!

cassandrau said...

Sharon said...
I just went on the Jon and Kate Facebook page, and spoke my mind. OMG, these people are scary. You would have thought I was talking about the Good Lord himself. The way they have kate up on a pedestal really makes me wonder what show they are watching. I hope they never find out where I live because they might bomb my house. The only thing I can think of, is that, maybe they are young and still idealistic.

____________________________

I completely agree!!!!!!!! I went on there and browsed through the discussions, and they RIP YOU APART if you say anything even slight, remotely, distantly against the Gosselins. Even after the Jon incident, they still keep saying how "everyone makes mistakes."

voice said...

tallblonde said...
If Jon was smart - okay, don't flame me, I know that's wishful thinking *LOL* - he'd be negotiating "behind the scenes" with another publisher to write a "tell all" book of life with Kate.

At least he'd had an independent income for once in his life.....
Yes, a tell-all by Jon would be so good for the children too.

Jess said...

I read an older feed where a lot of people were saying the kids were old enough to not wear bibs anymore. I thought I'd comment on that here.

I think I would probably still have my 5-year-olds wear bibs if there were 6 of them. With that many there's a good chance that one or two of them will spill. I don't think it demeans them, I just think it's done differently because of the number of children. Heck, even I wear a makeshift bib during breakfast so I don't spill on my outfit for the day.

lindahoyt said...

Kon fans remind me of the "claymates"....who insisted that the dirty/flirty webcast Clay Aiken made, for a gay dating service; wasn't really him...but an imposter! They wouldn't believe that Clay was a dog, much less a gay one! Now, they are just devastated, because they defended Clay, just like the Kon fans defend Kon.

Funny how a reality show encourages some people to ignore reality, and start making up fantasy!

Listen Jon cheated on his wife and kids. I don't care if he had sex with that girl or not; he cheated. He was behaving like an unmarried man, in a sport's car, trolling a bar in the middle of the night. He dishonored his marriage, Dishonored his Christian witness, his reputation, and hurt his kids.

He and Kate, who are promoting a book which includes Bible verses, are making a mockery of everything in that Bible! They are hurting the cause of Christ with their behavior, bringing disdain to the name of Jesus Christ.

I am ashamed of them both.

Emma said...

I'm watching the episode in which Cara and Jon go to Utah. It's interesting that Cara says she misses her mommy. Haven't we established that Kate is gone all the time? Weird. Maybe she misses her mom because she knows it was one of the few times she was going to be home that month? Any guesses?

lilmamad said...

I remember Kate had said way back from the very first show that "they agreed to do the shows because they would have all their memories recorded because they don't have time to videotape family moments" from being so busy taking care of the children. What nice memories the children have cataloged now ~ their mom horribly disrespecting their dad and treating them miserable for the whole world to see. I doubt if any of the children would even want to show the episodes to their own families when they are older. Talk about the humiliation and embarrassment!

HannaBelleLechter said...

Thank you to all who replied and to Maude for the info on the Henry Ford hospital tour. I hope we get feedback and reviews after that "performance" takes place. I think Kate should do a tap dance for a $150 ticket! ;)

After posting my question last night, I had "D-Oh!" moment!

If the info we're read here and elsewhere is accurate, once the Gosselins contracted w/a PR agency to handle their bookings, fee rate-changes went into effect. Kate now asks for a $25K flat fee plus all expenses, such as airfare, hotel, car and security. Those costs add up.

If that is the case, then no wonder her venues are charging such high rates. For example, the $150@80 tickets for the hospital tour would net around $12K, so the hospital would recoup at least half of the speaking fee. If the tea is a fundraiser, I suppose they're hoping the big pockets will turn out to see the TV star and pony up big donations.

If Faith Church in Troy, MI, charges $38@500seats, or $18,750, then, again, they are close to recouping their speaking fee, plus they're drawing in hundreds who will throw money in the collection plates, right?

The bookstore signings are one aspect of Kate's new "career," but it's really these appearances , or "performances" that are raking in the dough.

ohboy said...

Oh Snap! KON made Yahoo Homepage again. TV Guide is calling them "Most Questionable TV Character"!!!!! Seems like everyone is catching on now!

Jane in California said...

Jess said...

I read an older feed where a lot of people were saying the kids were old enough to not wear bibs anymore. I thought I'd comment on that here.

I think I would probably still have my 5-year-olds wear bibs if there were 6 of them. With that many there's a good chance that one or two of them will spill. I don't think it demeans them, I just think it's done differently because of the number of children. Heck, even I wear a makeshift bib during breakfast so I don't spill on my outfit for the day.
Jess, I respect your opinion. However, at what point do we, as parents, stop making our children wear and do babyish things, simply because they might get messy? Why should young children be expected not to get messy? They're five years old -- isn't it natural that they might spills some crumbs on themselves, possible put a dirty finger to their shirt and leave a mark? Why is that so awful?

I do know that if I had tried to put a bib on my son when he was at any age older than 3 1/2, he would have refused and been very upset at being made to wear a baby bib!

My solution was to save my energy for the big battles. I used lots of stain remover during laundry time. I let my kid be a growing kid, and learn how to eat with a minimum of mess. Whether there be one child or six, let them learn and let them be age appropriate.

One final point -- when children go to kindergarten at age 5, they are not placed in bibs during snack or lunch times. Same holds true for children in pre-school at age 4 or 5. The only time they are put into smocks is when they are going to be doing finger painting. So I still see no reason why Kate has to make her almost kindergarten age children wear bibs at every meal -- except that she puts her own laundry issues before the fact that her children should be allowed to live like five year olds, not two year olds.

Chris said...

And? said...
Chris said...

I'm not naming any names on this one. A number of years ago a rather well known actor filed suit for custody of his nephew because he felt that his sister was an unfit mother. I wonder if any of the Kreiders or Gosselins are willing to throw themselves under the bus to protcts these kids from their unfit parents

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Were they successful in getting custody?

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The end result was the child was sent off to boarding school and the mother checked herself into drug rehab. It's my understanding that the mother has been clean since.

WorkerBee said...

In regards to the bib thing...if I heard it once I heard it a million times, "I'm not a baby" whenever I'd try to make them do something they'd given up by age 3.

I guess Kate's never heard of playclothes.

overwithKON said...

So who else thinks the babe or girl in the pic is the not a nanny. Thats the way he could know her for awhile!LOL!

K8 and Mr. Grey and

Jane and the (not a)nanny!

priceless!

I want to be a SAHM just like K8! GAG!

i saw it said...

I work for one of the airlines, and Kate and her body guard were on the plane last week with me. She was very chatty and flirty with him, he seemed to blow her off for the most part, but I do have to wonder now that the pics of Jon have come out!

My5blessings said...

lilmamad said...

I remember Kate had said way back from the very first show that "they agreed to do the shows because they would have all their memories recorded because they don't have time to videotape family moments" from being so busy taking care of the children.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I agreed with you entire post.
Just wanted to add something I've thought numerous times.

Really, we have already established J&K were far from poverty avenue when they began the show. They could afford to do the following............

If they were *only* interested in documenting their children's lives for themselves, why not HIRE someone? Why make a reality show? Btw it is far from reality.

Answer--, MONEY. We all know that. It had little to nothing to do with making memories for themselves or their children, and had much to do with how much money they could make doing their "jobs" as parents.
Just a thought...............

WorkerBee said...

i saw it said...
I work for one of the airlines, and Kate and her body guard were on the plane last week with me. She was very chatty and flirty with him, he seemed to blow her off for the most part, but I do have to wonder now that the pics of Jon have come out!

***If Mr Gray has ever seen an episode of the show he knows what a beoych she can be and I'm sure he's not interested, no matter how good she looks. If you want Kate, not only do you get her OCD, her obnoxious behavior and rudeness but you get 8 little ones. (Can you imagine step-parenting Mady?)
Most men would run the other direction.

trent&vallen'smommy said...

How does everyone know that Jon and Kate are actually still living together? I wouldn't be surprised if he came over to film the show and went home to sleep somewhere else. It seemed like he was staying at his mom's house a good bit when the "cheating" started. Maybe Kate doesn't say anything because she knows that they have a contract and need to appear to be together, and doesn't get upset about him being out at bars because she and him have secretly already separated. Just an idea, but it makes sense.

Judy said...

Has anyone noticed the insurance company commercial with a woman who looks very similar to the way Kate used to look, has her hair style, tone of voice, mannerisms, style of speaking? I just don't think it is a good move on the insurance companys part, I don't think people are thinking of Kate in as positive of a way anymore.

Narcissism Please said...

i know this is probably late to the draw, and as updated as i really try to be [with regards to posts..] .. the volume of literature to paw through can get overwhelming, here.

...


re: foodnetwork showdown/the dilley sextupletsyes, whoever 'called it' was correct. the top cake decorators in the country are competing to construct the sextuplet's sweet 16 birthday cake.

..err, they did when it first aired.
i'm just now catching a rerun ;oX

Letthetruthbetold said...

Tallblonde said
"Well it MUST be true about Mr Grey/Bodyguard taking Jon's place.....look who's carrying the purse in this picture! ;-)"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uMNdiBPKhNQ/Sf0FXc37hzI/AAAAAAAAA4U/SxXyollCTEw/s1600-h/kate3.com

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw this picture...Mr Gray has the purse and Kate looks like she is pulling him around by his gonads just like she does Jon ! LOL!

missymammy said...

I saw Jon and Kate at the Women's Show as well, and after talking to someone who worked there, I was told that they arrived separatley, did not speak at all backstage, jon left as soon as it was over while kate stayed and signed her "books" and that she demanded fiji water at room temp, organic pretzels and hemp bird seed to eat. They put on a good show on stage, but jon looked pretty sad and uncomfortable. Mr. Gray did check people's cameras, and apparenlty a few paps even snuck in! Overall, I got the sense that the 2 were def. NOT together anymore.

Tinamarie said...

I still think she will cyber - charter school the kids next year. What that is , is public school at home. So technically they are homeschooled but the state overlooks everything and it is completely free!!The students receive free computers and printers each. I know I used to use "PAVCS" which stands for Pa virtual charter school. And the parents don't even need to be present. They could have ANYONE help the children with their schoolwork.This is just my opinion.

Marie France said...

trent&vallen'smommy said...
How does everyone know that Jon and Kate are actually still living together? I wouldn't be surprised if he came over to film the show and went home to sleep somewhere else. It seemed like he was staying at his mom's house a good bit when the "cheating" started. Maybe Kate doesn't say anything because she knows that they have a contract and need to appear to be together, and doesn't get upset about him being out at bars because she and him have secretly already separated. Just an idea, but it makes sense
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According to Jon himself, he and Take separated on Feb. 2, 2009. He told this to a group of students at Penn State where he had a speaking engagement that month. So - if they are over, why should Take care what he does? I'm sure he is living with his mommy and only comes to Wernersville to film. When not at his mommy's, he probably is at the Utah condo or elsewhere. I am sure he is not staying in that house.

Jan from PA said...

Regarding the Mark Harmon case from 1987, he and Pam Dawber dropped the case just before the judge was to rule.

This is a quote from the People Magazine article covering the court case.
"All parties adjourned to the reconciliation court and by the end of the day they had worked out an agreement: Kris retained custody; Mark was granted visiting rights; Kris, Sam and Mark agreed to enter family therapy."

Sam did NOT get sent away to boarding school.

I think the Kreiders and the Gosselins are so afraid of Kate's venomous wrath and rage that they are fearful of doing anything.

The one hope I have is that if she keeps going the way she has been, it won't be too long until someone can get an involuntary commitment on her. She is certainly wacko enough.

I personally resent her claiming to be a good "Christian" wife and mother. Good Christian women don't emasculate their husbands and terrify their children.

nanasez said...

So I still see no reason why Kate has to make her almost kindergarten age children wear bibs at every meal -- except that she puts her own laundry issues before the fact that her children should be allowed to live like five year olds, not two year olds.
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ITA. Although, since the kids have spending most of their time with Not-A-Nanny, I don't think they're wearing the bibs. Given the impeccable state of Kat's manicure, I'd wager that Not-A-Nanny is doing the laundry and dishes. Probably while she's up late at night waiting for Jon to come home from the bars.

Someone remind me again how anyone could stand to spend even five minutes listening to Kon talk about the hardships of rearing their large family? If anyone wants to know what it's like taking care of multiple multiples, they ought to talk to the fleet of past volunteers and current paid help. Those are the people actually taking care of the work involved in keeping the family running.

Jane in California said...

Letthetruthbetold said...

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw this picture...Mr Gray has the purse and Kate looks like she is pulling him around by his gonads just like she does Jon ! LOL!All I can say to that is .....
suckah!!!!!!

We said...

Voice,
I think that there is some confusion here and probably on my part. I used to go to Jodi's sister's site and read and post often because I was very upset what happened to Jodi. Then many sheeple would start defending Kate and put sweet Aunt Jodi down. The rules weren't reinforced there as they are here on the wonderful GWOP site. Therefor I stopped going to that site. I went back to it today for the first time in ages to check things out and it seems like most of the comments are not from the simple minded sheeple anymore. But I am somewhat confused. There are several names for that site. Truth Breeds Hatered, Super Nanny Rules and Aunt Jodi On A Blogging War Path.
All I know is that I am NOT a J/K supporter and that is why I left the site then and now am a faithful commenter on the most classy blog site.....GWOP.....Thanks to the moderators for keeping it clean!

Val said...

Per the bib issue (again)
So what if their clothes get dirty? Kate has a new and huge washer and dryer and a large selection of clothes for the tups.

Sharla said...

Thank you and thank you for reading.

There seems to be some confusion about Julie, Aunt Jodi's sister's, blog. The only one that I know about is Truth Breeds Hatred. The other blogs may be quoting from there, but they are not Julie's blog.

we said...

Thank you Sharla for clearing that up for me. I know that we are all on the same page when it comes to the Gosselins but the reason that I think that this site differs is because "The Rules for Posting" keeps up all in check and eliminates people from getting out of line. I can honestly say that this is a site that brings us all together to voice our opinion about J/K and yet be senstive to the Gosselin children. Again thank you to you and the other mods.

Anonymomma said...

Just a couple more cents to throw in the pocket...

My oldest daughter just turned 9. In regards to her birthday, for the first time in her life, we did a low key 'just us' thing. Just cupcakes, and she got 1 gift (a kareoke machine). She got to pick dinner for the family that day too (a tradition we do). Like I said, it was the first time in 9 years that we didn't have an all out bash for her. Her 7th birthday consisted of 2 parties (1 for family and 1 for friends). This year, she was pissed. She still is complaining about how she didn't get 'everything on her list' or how I wouldn't allow a sleepover.

This is what happens though, when you give your child everything, no questions asked. I have no dount K8 only gives her kids toys and trips and such for the purpose of TV but what happens when it's all gone because one day it will be. One day they will have to cope with 8 screaming kids all having tantrums because of it. Trust me, I learned my lesson well. I made my daughter take 20.00 of her bday money and donate it to the American Cancer Society. Something I will now make her do each year.


Also, about Jon smoking. I know this is touchy, I used to smoke. Then my mom got small cell lung cancer and passed away from brain metastasis. ABout a year and a half later, I was finally able to quit after 10 years. June 25th will be 5 years, smoke free, no cheating either.

However, my hubby still smokes. He isn't ready to quit. He says so himself straight up. But he is limited to the basement (in the winter) or out back. I don't allow him to smoke in the car even when me or the kids aren't driving with him because of the smell it leaves. And he's learned that I can now detect it if he does.

I guess my point is, I agree with posters who bring this up as hot topic but I also think in comparison to this family's issues overall, smoking is the least of them. It's been 5 years for me, and I still have the urge to smoke on really stressful days. So lol, I can only imagine how many packs Jon puffs down at a time, living with Kate. If I had to live with her, I'd probably chew, while smoking, and wearing a patch.

If he is a smoker, I hope he can find it in himself to quit. Coming from someone who lost her mom at 25 because of lung cancer, I can't imagine how hard it would be on a young child. One more thing, for anyone out there interested to know, I used www.whyquit.com for their support group as well as the patch (constant, one month) and the gum (as needed) for two months. I know they say you shouldn't use the patch and gum at the same time, but it was the only thing that worked for me. Just a little info for anyone out there who may smoke and may be looking for a way to quit.

Jennifer A. said...

I so get annoyed with the bibs, my kids quit wearing bibs at 18 months and 14 months. They are now 7 and 4. I did lots of laundry and occasionally threw out a piece of clothing. They would rip the bibs off, so I gave up.
My son is in a special needs preschool and no kids in his class wear a bib

jayley said...

Keeping kids on the right track doesn't end when they're 18. We have one who, despite our best efforts,has to be continually reminded to be grateful. When I'd heard enough of the whining about how she had missed out on all the "awesome" spring break and summer trips planned by college friends, phone calls will be made tomorrow to Americorp. She can travel, meet people, and have an "awesome" experience helping others less fortunate.

Sharla said...

About the bibs and other things. I spent 5 hours today with a four year old who is the youngest of four. He sat through 1.5 hours of church without whining, crying, or disturbing anyone. He did have to be taken by mama to the facilities. He ate without a bib and ate what everyone else at his sister's party ate without getting a drop on himself. He spoke to people and used full sentences and correct pronouns and grammar and could be understood by all present. After 4.5 hours he did start getting tired and cranky. Oh, he didn't hit anyone, fight with anyone, scream, take toys, run off, or any other such behavior. He didn't even have a booster seat. His highchair was given away to a women's shelter about two years ago.

Narcissism Please said...

vicki-

absolutely melifluous.
you took all of the words i couldn't even TRY to come up with, right out of my brain .. straight on to my computer screen.

thank you for that.

Willow #1 said...

Dear I'm Just Sayin ---

"Kate goes Grey" That is great!!! Stroke of genius. That is too funny!!!

I'm just sayin said...

Thank you Willow #1

Did I mention that Jon got caught RED handed?

Cynthia said...

Where is 3Farmers? Do any of you know if she goes under another name? Her writting skills were great!

Lynne said...

Been on the sidelines but had to jump in and give my two cents.

Rach said: Jon and Kate were kidding themselves when they said they may be considering adopting a Korean baby. No adoption agency would allow the parents of 8 children to adopt a child. There's a limit to how many children you can have in order to be eligible for adoption.

5/03/2009 9:24 AM

Mia Farrow adopted I believe 15 children, most from foreign countries and she was a single parent, so while that may be true in the USA I don't believe all countries follow that policy. I do not claim to know the law in this respect so maybe it has changed since Mia's days of adopting. However IMO I don't think J&K will adopt (I hope not anyway).

In respect to Mady I have 3 children my oldest daughter (13) acted very similar to Mady from the day we added a 2nd child to our family, I cried many times over my feelings of being a failure as a parent because I couldn't reach this child, when she was 7 we decided we didn't know what we were doing and went to see a counselor. She is happy and well adjusted now. My reason for ranting about this is that I don't think J&K know what they are doing in the parenting dept. obviously, and Mady needs a different approach than the others, her life is going to be hard enough, through no fault of her own, without the frustration of being so misunderstood and not knowing how to reach out to the adults and the other children in her daily life.

I am definitely not a Kate fan she makes me see red anytime she opens her mouth. I also am not so quick to believe Mady's behavior is a result of Kate's lack of nurturing, If so couldn't we expect to see at least one of the other children acting out, honestly with the exception of Hannah the kids are pretty much treated equally crappy. My own experience leads me to the conclusion that Mady is just wired differently and they need to learn how to reach her before she is unreachable, if they care at all about her. I am not a doc so this is just opinion of course.

I have not watched the show this past season except the extra Green episode, and so I was shocked to find that sweet Aunt Jodi had disappeared, thanks for all the links to explain this. Dr. Phil and Oprah should call Jodi for a show about parenting tips she is certainly a better parent from what we have seen.

Chris said...

If this week's news about Jon isn't an indication that this marriage is on thin ice, I don't know what is. Although I don't know how even the most hardcore fans could fool themselves into thinking this wasn't a long time coming. When I was a fan, I tried to argue to my hubs that Kate wasn't as bad as she seemed. Obviously that's long since stopped. (Not that her behavior justifies an affair on his part, but it doesn't help either.)

Someone made a comment earlier wondering just who might say something/pose questions to the tups when they entered school...look, I don't have kids, but TLC touts this as a family, and it's on all hours of the day. It certainly doesn't seem that hard to believe that at least a few kids in their class/es would've seen them (the tups) on TV, does it? I'm sure there are more than a few families that watch together. They may not be asking about the demise of their parents' marriage, but a simple comment like "your mommy yells at your daddy a lot" can definitely give even a five year old reason to feel ashamed.

It seems the same would be even more true with Mady and Cara, especially if they're in an elementary school that has "older kids" (fifth and sixth grade, or even all the way to eighth as some private schools do). Plus the older the child, the more likely it is they get online (sad as that is). The scandal's been on Yahoo!'s main page, for cripe's sakes.

As if another season wasn't bad enough; all this is the last straw. Get a grip, TLC...Jon and Kate...everyone involved with this show, before yet another family is irreparably shattered.

so irritated said...

Someone sent a report about the PA Women's show to Jon & Kate's biggest fan to post on her blog. FYI biggest fan- it was not called the Southern Woman's PA Show.

As posted on the blog, the person who attended the show walked into the building with someone from J & K's neck of the woods. This nameless mystery person claimed that Babe is someone "Jon has known for years and they are just friends, NOTHING ELSE."

So there you have it! Case closed! Despite photographs, eyewitnesses, a statement from Jon himself which does not include him claiming he has known Babe for years, plus recent past history of clubbing with college gals, an anonymous person apparently has the last and most credible word on this. Wow.

The Patriot printed another article yesterday about the Kon appearance. A quote from Kate includes a huge Freudian slip on her part.

"However your family shakes out, whoever is at home, whoever is working, whoever is doing that mundane job ... being a parent is never a lost cause," Kate Gosselin said. "It's the best job you can ever have. Don't ever stop. It will pay you back a million times."Leave it to Kate to mention the words pay and million in a speech about her fab parenting. Also, the "whoever is doing that mundane job" crack was a sure dig at Jane.

Here's a link to the article, hope it works. It states a photagrapher for an entertainment magazine was escorted out by security.

http://www.pennlive.com/
news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/
base/news/124130400957160
.xml&coll=1

Allison Parker said...

Can someone please post a link to Kate and Mr. Gray's picture (the one with the purse)? The links posted earlier were incomplete and says "Page Not Found".
That sucks that Kate and Jon are now separated. Guess all the money in the world can't buy everything.

Kris said...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uMNdiBPKhNQ/Sf0FXc37hzI/AAAAAAAAA4U/SxXyollCTEw/s1600-h/kate3.com

If you look closely at the picture you can see Mr. Grey staring at the back of her head!

Even Mr. Gray is mesmerized by her wacky hair... :-)

LB said...

Actually, I heard that the twins had scholarships of some sorts to attend that private school; I believe that had a day program and is a Christian school, correct? That would explain how they have been able to be going there for several years now. Otherwise, the school would have kicked them out a long time ago if they were not able to pay the tuition or didn’t have a payment agreement in place. I just can’t see how they could have sent their children to private school after Jon was fired and Kate was working part-time. So they somehow found a way to keep the twins in that school. The sextuplets are now going to their old school (Kate said their teacher were the twins’) so I would think they are probably either to going to find a way to get scholarships for six children, get a reduced tuition or home school them. I think it’s an extremely bad idea to home school them because they will miss out on the social interaction, appropriate behavior and problem-solving they would get from being around other children as they seem still have some development issues.

When Aaden didn’t know what a cob on corn was, I was thinking, ‘my goodness, they don’t know the basics?’ and I suddenly realized that they have never ever showed the parents sitting down with the children and do simple exercises on language, colors, numbers, etc. They could even do that at mealtimes and ask one of the children to name the food they were eating. All I remember is the children learning to use scissors one time. I certainly hope they did that on non-filming days and I remember some of the sextuplets were counting to 10 or something like that in an episode last summer, I think. I also do hope that the parents don’t expect the school to do the entire teaching of basics and so on because that also has to be reinforced at home as well. But I did find it odd that one of the sextuplets said ‘thank you mommy for letting us color on the floor’ the day they filmed them moving out of their old house. Is she that uptight that she will not let them lay on the floor to color on paper? That’s pretty extreme.

Mz Mary said...

Jon's escapades make CNN news!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/05/02/sbt.john.kate.drama.cnn

gherkin said...

Well, Kate must be gnashing her teeth today. Oprah has just announced that she is giving Jenny McCarthy her own talk show. Ha! Poor Kate. It is her dream to be a talk show host and I'm sure she was counting on her buddy Oprah to hook her up.

Midwest Mom said...

...." the tups were going to attend Junior kindergarten in the fall."

Will someone please explain to me what the heck is "Junior Kindergarten".

Here in the midwest, we have preschool and then we have kindergarten, followed by first grade.

But what is this "junior kindergarten?" Something you go to before regular kindergarten ? Wouldn't that mean the tups aren't ready for regular kindergarten ?

iwasthereyouwherenot said...

Jon never said he and kate separated in Feb 2009. That is not true. I was at his speaking engagement at Penn State.

tallblonde said...

Allison Parker - here's the link:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uMNdiBPKhNQ/Sf0FXc37hzI/AAAAAAAAA4U/SxXyollCTEw/s1600-h/kate3.com

vallonio said...

Our fav couple just made TMZ's site. Lovely photo of the two of them, both of them sporting major orange color. The following quote was posted by TMZ after the photos.



While pics surfaced of Jon leaving a nightclub with a lady friend last week, the not-so happy couple appeared together at something called the Pennsylvania Women's Show this weekend.

Although Jon claims the woman was just a friend, he did admit his actions "showed poor judgement" ... much like Kate's choice in hairstyles.

Remy said...

OMG!! I cannot get away from these people they are turning up E-v-e-r-y-w-h-e-r-e since the friendgate incident. I wish they would just go away already.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/05/02/sbt.john.kate.drama.cnn

http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/4304

Ann said...

Jr kindergarten (at least where I live) is a more academic preschool final year. It is the year before a child would start kindergarten. It is at private schools. My daughter attended when she was 4-5 years old. It was more structured then preschool, and hers had the saxon math and reading programs which helped her enter kindergarten reading and doing 1st grade math.

What I do not understand is that the tups are 5, so they should start kindergarten in the fall. The jr kindergarten my daughter went to would not have any kids that would be able to start regular kindergarten in the program. The program my daughter attended was also admission based, meaning the director tested her to make sure she was ready for the academic program vs regular preschool.
If the tups turn 6 during jr kindergarten, and 7 during regular kindergarten it just seem odd to me to be 7 and in kindergarten. Maybe the 7 in kindergarten goes along with wearing a bib at 5?

Denise said...

iwasthereyouwherenot said.., I think it's a matter of semantics. He said "I'm staying with my mother" and in parts of the country that means living with.

When I moved here people would ask me "Where do you stay?" and I had no idea that meant "Where do you live?"

siliconmom said...

Junior Kindergarten is the equivalent of K1 vs. K2. Generally it's giving the kids an extra year to gain strengths in academic and social skills. Given that the tups (at least if the show is any indication) have had limited contact/interaction with other children in their peer group, they probably need that extra time to catch up.

While I'm not thrilled with Jenny McCarthy getting a talk show (I have four autistic children and disagree with her views on autism), I don't think I'd have wanted Kate to have one either. Although if doing a talkshow would cause her to stop J&K+8, then I'll take the lesser of two evils.

Barbbe53 said...

I just saw the pictures on TMZ. Wow that is not a happy couple. They both look miserable. I just wish they would own up and tell the truth.

Lala said...

In PA many public schools have Pre-K, which would be what they're calling junior kindergarten. It is for kids that just aren't quite ready for K. It's really no big deal. And is a good thing for kids who are either socially or developmentally not ready for Kindergarten. Many on here have commented how the tups speech seems delayed, so it would make sense that they attend pre-k. It should be looked at as a good thing that their needs are being provided for and not as another topic to snark about. I don't like J and K, but the kids deserve all the support they can get. Hopefully their "jr-k" will provide the tups with all the structure and guidance their parents don't have the time, patience or common sense to provide them with.

whatajoke said...

"I was talking to one of the vendors at the show and she told me that she heard over the walkie talkies that the workers had that when Kate got there she requested Fiji bottled water at room temperature. What a diva!"

Wasnt it not too long ago that Kate Gosselin was making the media rounds as spokesperson Proctor and Gamble's 'Give PUR Water' campaign; enlightening the world as to the devastating and horrific WATER conditions in 3rd world countries and for every PROCTOR & GAMBLE coupon redeemed would in turn provide clean drinking water for 3rd world countries??? How can any one take this woman seriously when she promotes a P & G campaign and their quest to bring clean drinking water to 3rd world countries, all the while DEMANDING her FIJI water to be at room temp!!! Tisk Tisk

EyesRolling said...

RealMom said...
As far as smoking and drinking by Jon, let's not forget he was not raised Christian, but Catholic. I believe he "became" Christian when the tups were born and they went to her dad's church for help. I could be mistaken but that is what I remember reading. Being a Catholic, I can tell you I knew many priests who drank and smoked up a storm. I am not familiar with any Christian rules about things like that. Anybody?

Uh, Catholics ARE Christians. Who do you think is on the crucifix?

MorganfromWV said...

Ahahahahahaha This is just too funny: "Although Jon claims the woman was just a friend, he did admit his actions "showed poor judgement" ... much like Kate's choice in hairstyles." ~ tmz.com

http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/04/jon-and-kate-plus-each-other/

Love the " much like Kate's choise in hairstyles. The photo of Kate is also not a good photo of her at all!! She looks like she is just boiling over with disgust!

Jenni said...

I am certainly no fan of Jon and Kate Gosselin. But I don't see any evidence that John was unfaithful to his wife and family. True, it was rediculous for him to be at a bar at 2 am, especially with only women.

In this day an age, however, everyone has a camera phone. If he was kissing or fondling women, or if he was stumbling around drunk, why wouldn't we have a picture of that by now? The photos, as they now appear, don't show anything beyond him posing platonically with women or driving off with them.

I also don't think Jon has been a bad father, except for the obvious fact that he continues to enable Kate's abusive behavior!

lilmamad said...

I know this may be a little late, considering I'm a newbie here, but have alot of you written TLC, Discovery Communications, Zondervan, and all companies/sponsors associated with them and expressed your concerns? Just curious. I emailed Zondervan over the weekend regarding the same as one poster wrote, them being a reputable Christian organization and being associated with her and Jon. I also asked if they were aware of the many reports of Kate leaving book signings early? I just emailed Discovery Communications and expressed my viewership dropped off last year and mentioned the concerns I had and their false representation of this family as the "All American Family". Just curious if you all have done the same and if you received any replies back from these organizations? I imagine they would be "canned" responses but just curious.

met said...

hee, hee...that's right. We Catholics have no problem with smoking and drinking. Heck we even drink during the Mass...(we are serious...we made it part of the Mass!)

I didn't even know that Christians didn't smoke or drank. Are we talking about those who believe that the wine at the Cana wedding was actually grape juice? I don't think we should lump everyone in the same boat. Not all Christians believe alcohol is evil.

siliconmom said...

I don't know of any particular restrictions on smoking in most evangelical churches (which is the type of church I believe the Gosselins attend or attended- not sure they still go.)

Please let season 5 be the last. The kids are aging out - they're in school a good part of the day so what more is there to show? Jon & Kate in counseling? I guess they could, taking the angle of "see what having kids can do to a relationship?". But I'd rather not go there.

Snerk said...

Drinking alcohol is one thing, but public drunkenness is another. The church Jon and Kate have been show attending is generally opposed to drinking alcohol. Once again they see the "rules" don't apply to them.

season 5? said...

Something caught my eye this morning....a sneak peak commercial of the "summer season" of J & K plus 8 on TLC (May 25). It was clips of Emeril in their kitchen cooking with them. WHY would TLC be touting this as the "summer season" and not the season 5 premiere?

Just a theory...but is it possible they have put a hold on filming, with only enough episodes taped already to provide a "summer season?"

We'll see.

Ava's Mommy said...

wow that tmz photo of them um ya.. Is jon holding her purse again? were is Mr grey? Kate's face oh ge golly someone is not practicing their smiles in the mirror. It almost looks like they both got slapped by the reality fairy. Wake up gosselins.

Whats his about room temp water? From all the teeth whiting kate has had; water to cold would probably give her a toothache. I'm surprised she didnt demand a starbucks. and a sippy cup for jon

Ummm's the Word said...

Here's a link for their latest clip on The Soup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhJsu0dz2hY. So funny, so true!

Mom23inNC said...

Denise said...
wasthereyouwherenot said.., I think it's a matter of semantics. He said "I'm staying with my mother" and in parts of the country that means living with.

When I moved here people would ask me "Where do you stay?" and I had no idea that meant "Where do you live?"
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Not to prolong the 'staying' discussion, but when Jon said, "I'm staying with my mother", his point of just staying (and not living) with is mom is certainly believable since State College, PA (where Penn State is located) is not too far from where his mother lives (Huntingdon, PA). He was speaking on campus until at least 9:30 PM and it was probably easier for him to spend the weekend or night at his mother's then to make the 2 or 3 hour drive back to the Reading/Berks County area. He may also have planned on bar-hopping or going to some of the Penn State fraternities after his little speech to co-eds -- there was nothing ever said, but we do know he likes that college scene!

tallblonde said...

OOPSY, Jon......now in this picture from the Pennsylvania Women's Show - your wedding ring is back on!

.....and you also have a ring on your right-hand ring finger.....

So, I think it's kind of easy to speculate that the wedding ring was taken off when you were with "Babe" the other night....

....or is the wedding ring only for "Jon & Kate + 8" contractual appearances??? You know - a prop - like your marriage...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uMNdiBPKhNQ/Sf0Gs0GD2gI/AAAAAAAAA4k/7NN8vU7eU5Q/s1600-h/jon%26kate.com

JaymeK said...

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=bd286e39-a0da-466a-a007-2649a7300013

I do not know if anyone has posted this yet, but this is the first I have seen it. It is of KON leaving Mr. Chow and I find it so telling how she makes Jon carry her purse just like Mr. Grey. Does she enjoy trying to emasculate her men? She is a piece of work!

Nancy said...

I went to the website for the Today show and didn't see any mention of the Gosselins. Maybe I just missed it. I just want to make sure I have the right show - is it the one with Matt and Meredith? I want to send them an email letting them know my disappointment with them giving these people more publicity. I know it won't stop them from having them on but at least they will know how others feel.

NotWhirringandProud said...

Junior Kindergarten?? WTH?
Sorry but that's just TOO pretentious and "Suburbi-ish" for words.
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Kindergarten
Elementary school
Junior high (or Middle school)
HIGH SCHOOL

That's it!
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Helicoptor moms.

sicKONing said...

Steve aka "Mr. Gray" is married, and bloggers aren't the only ones concerned about his relationship with Kate.

sean said...

If Jon wasn't on TV he would be laughed out of those college age bars. He is 32 and nothing to look at, the only reason they tolerate him is the American fascination with any type of celebrity. Even these two create somewhat of stir in PA.

SuzyQ said...

Re: the kids wearing bibs.

I have a 14 yr old who still occasionally gets food on his clothes. Just the other day he was eating pizza and got tomato sauce on a white t-shirt.
I guess I should whip out his old bibs because he can't handle his pizza and I can't figure out how to clean his clothes huh?!

Kate is a control freak and is trying to keep the 6 kids "babies" as long as possible.
Even if she was still doing all the laundry - its called stain remover - because it removes stains! DUH!

Jane in California said...

EyesRolling said...

RealMom said...
As far as smoking and drinking by Jon, let's not forget he was not raised Christian, but Catholic. I believe he "became" Christian when the tups were born and they went to her dad's church for help. I could be mistaken but that is what I remember reading. Being a Catholic, I can tell you I knew many priests who drank and smoked up a storm. I am not familiar with any Christian rules about things like that. Anybody?
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Uh, Catholics ARE Christians. Who do you think is on the crucifix?
Yes, that is correct. I'm not sure why, but unfortunately there is a lot of holier than thou involved in religion. "My religion is closer to God than yours," or "We're the real Christians, and the others are posers." Not saying that goes on here! But this accidental slip just shows that some people think Catholics are not the same as Christians, which is quite interesting.

I'm of no particular faith now, although I was raised Catholic. I think loving and respecting your spouse rises above religion, and is something that most of us agree is the ideal.

I also agree that both Jon and Kate are not living up to the religious ideals espoused by most major religions. They like to throw around "Lordy Be's!" and scripture verses, but that's just window dressing. It's like trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, as they say!

Sarah said...

Every time I see a picture of Kate, I'm reminded of how much I liked the "old" Kate from the first special. TLC played it right before "Gosselins Go Green" last week, and I watched them back to back. It was ASTOUNDING! It was watching two totally different people.

It's just funny to me that back then she was frumpy, looked tired all the time, had an outdated hairstyle. However, she seemed like an honest, somewhat kind mother stressed out from raising 8 children. But I liked her! Now she's orange, in fancy clothes all of the time, her hair is styled (even though I hate it) but now I really can't stand her. She's what they call "new money". Like school in the summer-- No class... I wonder if she ever watches herself back then and asks "What the hell happened to me?".

I miss the old Gosselin family!

Wendy Bird said...

Paul Peterson in on TMZ Live Stream (re: Octomom) right now. They are talking about the Gosselin's too.

KateStinks said...

I was out today at a supermarket and I say a lady with Kate's haircut, looked exactly the same. And she kind of looked like Kate too. The funny thing is she was at the checkout line reading US Weekly with KON on the cover! It was to funny.

Wendy Bird said...

Regarding the TMZ Live Stream that I mentioned up-thread. Neither Paul Peterson or Gloria Allred would comment about the Gosselin's, because they said that they didn't have their contracts in front of them. They are going by California law when addressing Suleman's attempt to allow her children to do a reality TV show.

At least the media is now asking about the Gosselin's. Perhaps their situation will be scrutinized more closely now.

BCarefulWhatUWish4 said...

Lala said...
In PA many public schools have Pre-K, which would be what they're calling junior kindergarten. It is for kids that just aren't quite ready for K. It's really no big deal. And is a good thing for kids who are either socially or developmentally not ready for Kindergarten. Many on here have commented how the tups speech seems delayed, so it would make sense that they attend pre-k. It should be looked at as a good thing that their needs are being provided for and not as another topic to snark about. I don't like J and K, but the kids deserve all the support they can get. Hopefully their "jr-k" will provide the tups with all the structure and guidance their parents don't have the time, patience or common sense to provide them with.
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I agree with all of the above, except I believe it is a big deal at age 5.
If "Jr. Kindergarten" is indeed a euphemism for Pre-K, the appropriate age for that is 3 or 4. In fact, that age is required for eligibility in public schools.
As a teacher, my experience is that Pre-K is delivered at preschool age to instill skills that the parents are not able to provide in the home due to some disadvantage. It is indeed more structured than regular preschool, taught by certified Early Childhood educators, and the point of it is to give the children age-appropriate skills......precisely so they won't have to try to "catch up" at age 5 and beyond.
As for speech therapy, that can be delivered at any grade by a specialist, albeit the earlier the better.

Imo, if there are developmental delays, then the Gosselins have already missed the best window of opportunity for early intervention. Further, I doubt E I programs are available in private schools, though I'm not certain. I do know they take a lot of funding.

Bottom line: Hopefully any delays are mild enough such that the Pediatrician did not suggest developmental evaluation. (I'll keep my own observations on delays to myself per the rules.) However, if the children are now NOT equipped for regular Kinder, then intervention at age 3 or 4 would have been in order, and far better than private school Pre-K at age 5+ for many reasons. But that would have entailed consistent attendance, thus precluding going hither, thither, and yon to work at the family job.

Pamama said...

I'm not naming any names on this one. A number of years ago a rather well known actor filed suit for custody of his nephew because he felt that his sister was an unfit mother. I wonder if any of the Kreiders or Gosselins are willing to throw themselves under the bus to protcts these kids from their unfit parents

________________________________

Were they successful in getting custody?
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Yes, It was Bernie Mac, the basis of his tv show was based on his real life.

beachluvin said...

Thanks Morgan for the link, anyone else noticed how Kate's hand is always in that distorted face up position? I mentioned this before but I think it is a subliminal message for "give me, give me" or "handout"

http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/04/jon-and-kate-plus-each-other/

comment said...

Anyone notice that in the picture that tallblonde posted, Kate is not wearing her wedding ring but a fashion ring? I've never commented before, but noticed this. Everyone's commenting on Jon's lack of a wedding ring, but Kate's not wearing one either.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uMNdiBPKhNQ/Sf0Gs0GD2gI/AAAAAAAAA4k/7NN8vU7eU5Q/s1600-h/jon%26kate.com

Daner said...

sicKONing said...

Steve aka "Mr. Gray" is married, and bloggers aren't the only ones concerned about his relationship with Kate.

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Where did you find or hear this information?

nanasez said...

Here's a link to the article, hope it works. It states a photagrapher for an entertainment magazine was escorted out by security.
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This is the thing that gets me. For people trying to make their buck publically as celebrities, the paranoia about being photographed or recorded is strange - and started long before Jon's exploits hit the tabloids. IMO, people who have nothing to hide would welcome the media when they're trying to make their millions via media and public appearances.

Kareninaz said...

I do not plan to buy 8 Little Faces but might check it out of the library or check at goodwill/paperback swap and the like but I do have a question. For those who have read it, did anyone read Bobbi Mccaughey's photo book put out when the Septuplets were around 1 or so? It had pictures of the different babies on each page and Mikayla plus stories to go along with the verses about how she feeds and plays with the babies and the volunteers help when she can't plus a story about how the tornados hit when they were doing a photoshoot for the line of patterns she put out. From what I've read, this 'book' is basically pics of the kids and maybe a caption or verse, no real stories, right?

marylou said...

TV Guide information for the Today Show on Thursday, May 7, lists "The Jon & Kate Plus Eight" gang - like the whole family is going to be on?

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=100548&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=11003520

EGGIBSON said...

It has been said that Jon(age32)has known "Babe"(age22) for "years"!!!! Exactly what the heck does that mean? Did he used to babysit her or something? When he was her age she would have been 10!!!!!! HEELLLLOOO!

SammysMom said...

Just got word (through my job in publishing):

a new article will be in People mag next week to counter the US Weekly article.

Kate will also be on Rachael Ray show later this month.

Her May 7th Larry King interview was cancelled for reason unknown.

Cookbook will be $29.99 due out in November.

TLC will air a new J+K+8 episode in summer about the book tour. Was taped at a Florida signing event.

There's also a new article in Ent. Weekly this week about them. Anyone seen it yet?

That's all I got so far!

JJ said...

Not defending Kate, but there are much better things to snark about. Re: Kate requesting room temp water is really not that big of a deal. Entertainers on tour (singers/bands, actors on set, and now I imagine speakers and authors) are able to request things in their dressing room. I don't see it as a big deal at all; she's a "speaker" so it's not that harmful to ask for some water.

It's not as though she requested a bowl of only blue M&Ms, new carpeting and to paint the walls lilac, like it's been reported of many divas.

And Sarah, I don't think she looks back on those eps and thinks anything other than "my hair looked awful! I was so pale! I look so soft and chubby! Look at that outfit, ew!" She clearly loves her life.

My2amFriends said...

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009/05/04/best-week-ever-exclusive-the-jon-and-kate-plus-8-spinoff/#comments


This was really funny!

Petra L said...

The link listed previously wouldn't open for me. I hope this one will.

The commentator said reality shows have been the "kiss of death" to other marriages and families.

He also called it a "present" to TLC because now so many people will tune into J&K+8 to see how this controversey is coming along.

I do blame TLC for much of this fiasco! But Kate sure has a lot to do with the awful turn it has taken.

One of the commentators asked if Jon should take up with the Octomom!

As awful and ridiculous and insane that Nadya Suleman is, she does seem to love her kids very much.

Anyway, this link should work now. If not, copy it and watch. It is lengthy and has a lot of material to it.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/05/02/sbt.john.kate.drama.cnn?iref=videosearch

twinner said...

I work in child care and have a boy who shares his birthday with the tups. He is in JK this year. Next year, he will be in Senior Kindergarten. So saying the tups will be entering JK next year is strange to me. They should be there now.

JK is not manditory, but 99.9% of all children around here go.

It's not for children who are behind in someway, it is just the start of formal schooling. And since it is though the school board, it is totally free.

Miss Lissa said...

Thinking about going to K8's book signing tonight at B&N in my area...more out of curiosity so I can report back to you guys...

I just can't bring myself to buy that book. Once she signs it, I can't return it, huh?

What say you, people? Should I go pose as a sheeple for an up close of The Orange One?

Ms.Peach said...

At the Farm Show, Kate said,
"However your family shakes out, whoever is at home, whoever is working, whoever is doing that mundane job ... being a parent is never a lost cause," Kate Gosselin said. "It's the best job you can ever have. Don't ever stop. It will pay you back a million times."

HA, HA. More like a million dollars!

I also want to say that if Cara and Mady have scholarships to their private school, maybe the school should reconsider those scholarships if they are based on need.

Denise L said...

sicKONing said...
Steve aka "Mr. Gray" is married, and bloggers aren't the only ones concerned about his relationship with Kate.
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What is "Steve's" last name? Is he employed by TLC or is he an independent contractor? Is he solely a "bodyguard" or does he have another function? Is he a PA area local? Please share - we are dying to know! Thanks.

Sher said...

It's too bad Jon and Kate don't live in California. I see Gloria Allred announced today that Paul Peterson has filed a petition in Orange county court to appoint a guardian for the estate of the 8 babies....to make sure their mother doesn't waste all the money that she makes off of them. There's an article about it on TMZ...probably other places too by now.

marylou said...

Miss Lissa said...
Thinking about going to K8's book signing tonight at B&N in my area...more out of curiosity so I can report back to you guys...
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Yes, please go and report!

dear jon said...

MsLissa~ You go girl!!!! Do you have a camera phone? I say go and take as many pics as you can before they throw you out...lol

Shelly'sFedUp said...

MsLissa if the goon squad tries to make you delete your pics use that phone and dial 911 especially if they toucj you

Kristin said...

Anonymous Robin said...

I don't think Kate is going to put the Tups in school...they are going to be holed up at the Konpound like Michael Jackson's kids were in Neverland. How could Kate even send them off to school with commoners when she can't even be nice to them herself unless she's getting paid? I don't think public school is gonna happen. Plus people may ask the kids questions that they just might answer and blow this whole horrible charade out of the water....

Just my .02
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The tups are registered for kindergarten. For the sake of their privacy, that's all I'm going to say.

WorkerBee said...

I'm watching the Cocoa Castle episode and if I hear her say "Organic Peanut Butter and Organic Fluff" or even mention the word organic, I'm gonna SCREAM!!

Aunt Chris said...

Re the kindergarten debate: I don't think the tups are so far behind as to be in need of alot of extra help. All they need is some attention, which they don't get in an instructional mode at home. I really think they could catch up quite quickly, as long as the classroom isn't jammed, which seems unlikely in a private school. I'd bet a deceit summer program would benefit most of them sufficiently. I think Kate (not Jon because he just doesn't think) figures she could always blame any shortfalls on their prematurity, and not her lack of parenting. I'm no genius, but if you just spend some time with little ones, reading, pointing out colors, shapes, aninmals, OBJECTS LIKE CORN ON THE COB(!)kids get it really quickly. Of course, this should have started 4 1/2 years ago, at the latest! Even if she had one kid at a time, she'd have gotten bored and found something to crab about. Again, not excusing Jon, just not paying him any attention because it doesn't seem like it would occur to him to do anything.

NCLindsey said...

http://television.aol.com/insidetv/2009/05/01/bad-reality-tv-moms/

AOL entertainment news has a just for fun list of Reality TV's Worst Mothers. And our dear Katie Irene is one of the 12 nominees! You can vote in an informal poll to determine who is the Worst Reality TV Mom... Kate has not cracked the top four yet. She is losing to the likes of Dina Lohan, Denise Richards, Kris Jenner, and Janice Dickinson.

But it is an honor just to be nominated, right? ;)

dontgetittwisted said...

Not defending Kate, but there are much better things to snark about. Re: Kate requesting room temp water is really not that big of a deal.

I agree. However, There is something so deliciously snarkworthy about the woman who said ( ie her life as a parent of two sets of multiples) "it isnt a glamorous job" but demands her bottled water (FIJI no less) to be at room temp.

Aunt Chris said...

Whatever Kate demands while on tour, I'm sure she issues them as demands, and the words "thank you" never cross her lips.

IEPintheknow said...

The sextuplets are in a pre-K NOW!

They are going to kindergarten in the fall, full day.

They are where they need to be, they are not behind. They are ready for Kindergarten.

Jen K said...

Noticed on TLC that this next season has now been called, "the summer season" instead of just season 5 or "the new season".

Someone had mentioned that it might be because they only have a limited number of episodes in the can and maybe there is concern there won't be more?

Could we be so fortunate? Correction....could the kids be so fortunate?

It seems odd for them to refer to it as a "summer season" no? Or perhaps "Table for 12" is doing better than expected and they are phasing J&K out before another scandal errupts? Not that TLC will hurt from the bad publicity, and since they are now The Loser Channel, it's no surprise that they will capitalize on any publicity, good or bad.

XraySk8er said...

I just found this site today! What happened to Aunt Jodi and Beth? It seems from other posts that things happened..but Im not sure!

Aeris said...

I have a few answers to some queries raised in this thread. Though I can't confirm they are entirely true, they were mentioned on TWOP a couple years back:

Private school - Cara and Mady have full scholarships for their day school, gifted to them by a family friend or a private donor (can't remember). There was no mention of scholarships for the tups, but KON could easily pay for it now.

Jon's religion - It was rumored that Jon converted when he met/married Kate. This may be one reason behind the friction between Kate & Jon's mom. The two did not get married in a Catholic church, which by Catholic standards is required for "being married in the eyes of God". Most likely he converted soon before or after the wedding.

beachluvin said...

dontgetittwisted said...
There is something so deliciously snarkworthy about the woman who said ( ie her life as a parent of two sets of multiples) "it isnt a glamorous job" but demands her bottled water (FIJI no less) to be at room temp.

5/04/2009 3:08 PM
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I really wish someone would pour regular tap water into a Fuji Water Bottle and give it to Take.....I would be laughing so hard!!

I do have to admit the Fuji water bottles are pretty, but honestly..they cost so much more. I drink probably 4-5 bottles of water a day since I teach a variety of grp ex classes.......I just fill an empty bottle with fountain water. Tastes the same especially when you're thirsty! Besides....our tap water is the best!

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