Free Discussion 5/16 - 5/22

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tazznum1 said...

Let's talk about the previews of the upcoming season teasers. Jon and Kate first face to face. Kate alone goes to Duff's Bakery etc. So much to comment on just regarding the previews.

HannaBelleLechter said...

The http://justjared.buzznet.com/ photos released today prove the old adage, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Why is Steve Neild there in Reading on a Saturday afternoon, accompanying the kids and Kate to Party City? I gave them the benefit of the doubt that she needed this guy to be a majordomo on her long solo trips on the road.

But he's paid $1600 a day, plus airfare/hotels, etc to protect her from crazy fans and such. What's the reason he's there today? The TLC crew isnt enough protection? Jon's not there of course.

Looks like cause Steve WANTS to be there, I'd say. What are we to think about his own marriage and his childen's feelings?

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=05&evt=gosselin-party&pic=kate-gosselin-party-city-04.jpg

If Kate and Steve go public, I would LOVE to see what kind of excuses the sheeple will manage to sputter.

Seafoam said...

Kate and Steve took the kids to the party store today. Heh heh!

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/05/16/kate-gosselin-party-city/#more-324621

mom of multiples said...

Please, someone tell me why she is still dressing those children alike? Especially the twins - they are just too old for that!

my9cats said...

After all the crap that's come down the last few weeks, will the brilliant GWOP humorists be able to recap the new episodes? If they can do it more power to them. it will be hard.

PLEASE DON'T WATCH said...

Sorry, I can't discuss the season teasers. I haven't seen them and wont be seeing them. I refuse to watch TLC, period!

Scuffy's Mom said...

Steve & Kate plus 8 (every other weekend)

nanb said...

Sorry not about the previews per se, the just jared pics make it obvious that the faux birthday is going over like a lead balloon!

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/05/16/kate-gosselin-party-city/

The picture of Mady in the van and kate, tells me she's so over this show and her "faux" Mom!

I do think Jon is definitely winning the Pap war at this point:

pics Jon taking the tups to school
Jon picking flowers with them on their birthday/Mother's Day

Kate taking them on location at Party City with the "not boyfriend" and camera crew
Kate tanning on tup's birthday/Mother's Day!

I personally think he drained his old 401k for some good legal advice! It's working!

Aunt Chris said...

So, Mady is the designated purse holder now, eh? Steve must have put his foot down, and of course Jon wasn't there to do it.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Wow, is Kate now flaunting her affair openly? This woman has lost any sense of reality. Why isn't Steve home in Maryland with his family?

HiThere said...

Unfortunately, the episode at Charm City Cakes was probably filmed before all of the latest news broke.
The people there are pretty righteous, with very sensitive BS meters.
They would not tolerate someone like Kate otherwise.

fadingnebula said...

I can't figure out their PR strategy here...

Hambone said...

Make note....

Party City footage was filmed May 16th.

Let's see if they try to edit in this footage as having been filmed either before or the day of the tups actual birthday.

If they don't mention it was filmed a week after the fact....

what was that word Kevin used?

SNOWJOB !!!!!

Scooby said...

How convenient that the Charm City Cakes episode ( Kate's B-day ) was filmed in Baltimore, Maryland....home of none other than one Steve Neild.

Wendy Bird said...

HannaBelleLechter said...

Looks like cause Steve WANTS to be there, I'd say. What are we to think about his own marriage and his childen's feelings?

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=05&evt=gosselin-party&pic=kate-gosselin-party-city-04.jpg
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Steve Neild should have resigned from his assignment as Kate's body guard. If this is just a business arrangement his company should have recognized the appearance of any inproprieties reflect poorly on them. It makes absolutely no sense to continue to have him be seen with her. What are they thinking? Do they want this mess to reflect on their business?

I guess so.

Librarian Mommy said...

Either Cara or Maddy (I can't tell them apart) look so sad in one of those photos on justjared (the one with the boom mike in the picture). I just don't understand how you can sacrifice your kids on the altar of your greed. Throw out the cameras, get a smaller house, use your degree (if anyone would employ you at this point), and give your kids the attention and normal family life they so richly deserve. Seriously look at their sad eyes. I would be heartbroken if my kids looked like that. In ten years when Maddy and Cara leave home and the sextuplets a few years after that do you really want their only memories from their childhood to center around their exploitation and misery?

Nicole said...

I do believe that there are TWO bodyguards in the pictures. There is also a man with a brown jacket, blue shirt and white pants in those pictures. Check it out. I'm sure with all those kids they need more that one bodyguard.

Elle said...

Here's a tidy (and appropriately snarky) wrap up of recent happenings, for anyone who has been living under a rock:
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/jon-and-kate-gosselin-getting-divorced/
I also stopped by the TLC website and am simply disgusted that they are promoting the premiere as "Jon and Kate's first face to face". This is beyond the pale, and I am now and forever done with this network. Jon- please, please, please put an end to this madness.

Cherier1 said...

I see she got Maddie to carry her purse this time...

Jenny said...

They were obviously filming - you can see the boom mic in the one picture of Mady in the back of the van.

Teri said...

I just don't get the bodyguard. all the time. Even the big celebrities don't have bodyguards everyplace they go. My god what is with her? well, we all know that answer.

Jana said...

And it continues: Kate makes them dress in matching clothes, even the older girls! When will she let them dress as individuals?

Most of the pictures show children that don't look very happy or excited about buying birthday goodies.

I guess Neild is a fixture around the family -- someone ought to be keeping an eye on the divorce filings in his county.

Miss Lissa said...

Can we also discuss the contradictions that have surfaces in recent weeks?

Steve is "only her bodyguard for the book tour" vs. he is seen in numerous episodes and today at Party City

"We are handling this matter privately" vs. "Interview in People magazine" trashing Jon and talking ABOUT him as if she hasn't spoken to him herself

Add your own!

Lauren said...

Hey it looks like Kate has finally found someone else to hold her purse

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=05&evt=gosselin-party&pic=kate-gosselin-party-city-09.jpg

Anyway I want to know how Kate explained to the 5yr olds why they are just having their birthday now( and not five days ago since we all know she was too busy boo hoo hooing to People Mag).Did she tell them that they couldn't have it until the camera crew was there?Or was it that she didn't want it until it fit into HER schedule? I'm going for the second assumption

Tazznum1 said...

I think Jon bailed on the show. Which means he probably didn't sign on with an exclusive "must be in every episode" deal like Katie girl did.

If Steve is just a bodyguard and a friend, as a friend he should want to put an end to the speculation. But he's there "protecting" her from......being a mom. Way to go Steve!

I would love to know what his wife is going to say any day now. Nothing like have a private person as herself being told that her husband is boinking Kate and looking like a fool. When is Steve home? Since Kate is home filming, he's there. Kate goes on the road, he's there. Kate goes tanning, he's there.

What about his "marriage?" He's home much less than Katie girl is.

Why doesn't Jon and the kids need Steve when they go out?

EXACTLY.

Breaking Day said...

OK, I just have to post a comment concerning the pics of Kate with Steve at Party City...

1. Why is a bodyguard needed in this situation? I literally cannot fathom why she would need a bodyguard here. I don't know of any "celebrities" who go out to the store with a bodyguard in tow.

2. WTF is the bodyguard's company THINKING? This is ridiculously bad for their business---it implies a level of unprofessional behavior which is staggering. Who would ever use this company again?

3. This is Kate's ultimate revenge on Jon. She knows, full-well, that Jon has been publicly humiliated. Whether or not the affair is true is NOT the point! It is widely known that Jon was very hurt by Kate being seen with Steve, and as a man myself, I can tell you how humiliated Jon must feel. Kate recognizes this fact, and she is EXPLOITING it.

I've dated a few girls like this... they identify just what hurts the guy the most, and then they hammer away at it.

A few days ago, Jodi and Kevin went on record saying how hurt Jon was over this whole bodyguard business. Let's say that Kate isn't having an affair with him. Well, Jon is her HUSBAND. She should break all ties with Steve.

Instead---Kate now parades around with Steve, WITH JON'S CHILDREN! Can you even imagine how destroyed Jon must be? His CHILDREN are now being looked after by the very guy that he thought Kate cheated on him with.

Kate is doing this because she knows that it will hurt Jon as badly as possible. This is revenge.

It is absolutely sickening. Are the kids going to start calling Steve "daddy?" Is Kate going to start having Steve hold their hands while out in public?

I'm just in awe that ANY man would go for Kate. There is literally nothing attractive about her. That's right---NOTHING. She's not a celebrity, she's not powerful, she's not hot. And she has EIGHT CHILDREN. WTF is this Steve guy doing?

Good god! Out of respect for HIS OWN WIFE, Steve should have NOTHING to do with Kate. Imagine how humiliated Steve's wife feels! Her friends, her family all see Steve on the cover of magazines with Kate, insinuating that they're lovers.

I'm just in awe at how stupid and evil and cruel humans can be.

Jen K said...

I would love it if celebrities who disagree with this (many of them are VERY sensitive to kids in the media) would film a viral YouTube video asking people to boycott the season premiere.

Unfortunately, it usually takes some sort of celebrity speak up for people to take notice of things and do the right thing. Think of the green movement and how Leonardo DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz talked that up for the MTV crowd.

Wish there was some sort of celebrity or group of celebrities who would band together and speak out on behalf of these non-actor, non-union, kids who are having every kid's worst nightmare (the threat of their family being torn apart) used for entertainment on national television.

I have access to one person in a very random "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" sort of way (actually about two degrees) but haven't spoken to him in years. Does anyone know anyone or have a friend of a friend they could hit up for their input?

Laurie said...

I took a look at the pictures on justjared and those poor kids don't look happy at all. A picture is worth a million words. The only one I see smiling and happy is K8. Sad, sad, sad.

Reading news said...

mom of multiples said...
"Please, someone tell me why she is still dressing those children alike? Especially the twins - they are just too old for that!"

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the dresses the twins were wearing. Since they wear uniforms to school and I am sure are never with any girls their own age outside of school I am sure they are not aware of what kid's wear or what is in fashion. I have two grandkids the same age and I felt the dresses were rather babyish on the twins. Their shoes, however, were very great as I think flip flops are so cute on kids.

I do think these kids are the most unhappy kids ever. Do any of them ever smile? Also, when I noticed the boom mike in several pics I was hoping Mady might have a moment to make a few utterances. There must have been a few questions asked as why else would those mikes be visible. I would also love to know who is tipping the paps off about Kate's shopping trips as they certainly don't normally hang out in Reading, Pa. Even though it was purely a PR stunt I am glad those poor kids finally got on the other side of the fence.

Dunwoody Mom said...

I wonder if Steve's company still considers his relationship with Kate as "professional"?

Kate really does not care. She really thinks that no matter what she does or who she hurts her life will not change.

Sorry, Kate, you're in for a catastrophic fall here and very soon.

notrealname said...

Party City footage today. Earlier footage of Kate in Baltimore airport on same site. Check out the ring finger. Is it empty? The middle finger still has the ring but the ring finger is empty. Me thinks this marriage is over.

jen said...

Just saw a preview of J&K at the Smithsonian. Whoever thought they were doing a promtion with Night at the Museum was right.

It is so irritating that TLC is saying this is still a show about a normal family. It is not. Normal familes do not meet Emeril or promote movies or take trips every other week for free.

I also can't believe that TLC isn't cancelling the show in light of recent news. If I were them, I would throw Kate's lying ass to the curb. Of course, they are probably afraid of losing money.

qtrfan said...

It is so sad - there is NOT ONE SMILE in any of those pictures. How telling is that?

lilmamaD said...

MoJo in the Morning was so right! These Just Jared pics say so much! The ones of Kate holding the kids' hands looks so artifical it's sickening. Then I looked over to the TMZ ones of Jon getting the kids from school, and although I don't condone the possibility that he may have really cheated no matter how crude Kate is, the one of him holding one of the little girls is so genuinely tender.

Staci said...

One of the things I really don't understand is how she can have such little regard for her marriage. I'm a mother and I love my son to pieces but I also love my husband just as much. Besides being my partner, he is also my best friend and to throw that all away for money isn't logical to me. What good is money if you can't enjoy it with your best friend. I know money means alot to Kate but there was love there once. The reason for making the money is for your family and enjoying it in your golden years with the person who helped you create that family.

nolongerwatchin said...

In regards to the photos. The children look ridiculous dressed alike to go shopping. I mean absolutely ridiculous. It is like here comes Kate's Crazy Circus, all she needs is a giant black top hat and a long red coat. She should try dressing them all in costumes, have them all dressed like Superman or Ninja Turtles and that way she could get even MORE attention when she goes out with them. She is also primped, plucked and painted to the nth degree imo. I always do that when I am newly in love, how about you?

Jill said...

When I saw the Party City pics, I thought she was dressed very conservatively compared to the pictures we've seen over the last week with blue jean minies and heels. Then people pointed out they were filming for the show. Makes sense now. I guess she doesn't want to dress like a MILF on her family show.

jen said...

I don't want to knitpick but there is no real clear picture of Kate's left hand sans wedding ring on just jared. The one picture that is of her hand is her right hand, her wedding ring would never be on that hand.

How do you know she stopped wearing the wedding band? I know she has it on in the People pictures.

Tazznum1 said...

Yeah, forgot about the Emeril over her house cooking with her. Jon again, nowhere in site.

So Steve gets $1600 a day protecting her. Probably gets $500k a year doing it. Kate probably feels that he can keep her in her lifestyle if everything goes away.

I hope everyone involved really loses everything monetarily. Disgusting.

Jon should start talking to Steve's wife :) That is a show I'd watch!

UnorganicManic said...

NONE of the kids look happy...Kate is the only one smiling for the cameras. If this footage is an episode the show is not going to last much longer. At least before the little ones were laughing, happy and cute.

Chris said...

The matching clothes are from one of gymboree's line. So much for Healthtex Kate?

I think matching clothes are okay for family pictures or holiday time. It is like Kate is not letting the kids be individuals.

downtheroad said...

ok, on the just jared site...the photo is of kates right hand. I don't know about you...but my wedding ring is on my LEFT HAND!

Second...MAYBE they are having the kids birthday party a week later because their actual birthday is mothers day....and who would want to go to a kids birthday party on Mother's day.

MayDay said...

Why is there a close up of Kate's hand on Just Jared? Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it her right hand that is showing? The one we need to see is the left.

Just a thought said...

Did it ever occur to anyone that Steve's shirts are always untucked or he wears a jacket? From a security standpoint, there's only one reason for this. My question is why would Kate need an armed bodyguard???

Dancing Nancy said...

For those who had comments about the kids clothing matching. Don't they have a deal with Gymboree? Basically product placement.

Sal said...

One of the three pictures on TCL Jon & Kate page shows Kate with the three boys.
They know she does not like the boys but hopes they can fool the watching public?
NOT!
TLC is hoping they can turn the public around to again see Kate as this wonderful caring mother she believes she is.
There is no way TLC will consider canceling Jon & Kate. In one article it stated that TLC has formed their reputation and business around the "loving, normal family" that Jon & Kate are not. They are going to milk this tragedy for all it is worth and as long as they can.
They will gladly film the death of a family for more dirty money to line their greedy pockets.

The never ending smirk on Kate's face tells me she doesn't get it. She really thinks the world loves her.
Just like she thinks the world loves her hair.

Ann said...

Did I see right? TLC is having an all Jon & Kate marathon this weekend? The preview showed they will be going back to the begining.

I guess this is the way to make us love our favorite fanily again?

Sal said...

Hopefully Jon will blow when he finds out that Kate is funding the body guard herself. That is the only thing that makes sense that he is with her 24/7.

Jon said (and the boss that fired him mentioned this also) that Kate has tight control on the money.
Jon can use this in court. It is called abuse. A person cannot cut off or control their spouse financially. It is illegal.

pretty is as pretty does said...

In my previous job I dealt with celebrities fairly often. From Hollywood types, to politicans and pro athletes. Very rarely did they have a body guard. Sometimes they would have a trainer with them the atletes did, but it was never obvious.These were very high profile people and easily recognized and were for the most part gracious, often they were with their families.IMOP she is really over the top with the "need" for 24/7 bodyguards.

TandLMommy28 said...

Looking at those beautiful children breaks my heart. They are beautiful kids and they are being destroyed. It is so sad! Those party pictures. Imagine that... mommy only celebrates my birthday when the camera is rolling, and daddy doesn't even come along. Heart breaking.

pretty is as pretty does said...

That was a very good point a poster made regarding the fact Jon was very hurt by the bodyguard, I guess the PR and Katie Irene think if she got rid of him it would be her admitting the truth, or she doesn't give a rats ass what anyone thinks probably is more likely.

Anonymomma said...

Maybe K8 needs Steve to protect her from her own kids. You know, in case they try to hug her.

That party supply store? It's not in a very crowded area. K8 definately could have gotten in and out of there even with the kids, with nothing to worry about. Absolutely no need to have security with her.

reenie0912 said...

Just saw the just jared photos. All I have to say is, those poor children! I also saw the next group of photos, with just Kate. Pics of her getting getting into a BMW. Wonder if she asked Jon before she bought it!!

Kimmie said...

notrealname said...

Party City footage today. Earlier footage of Kate in Baltimore airport on same site. Check out the ring finger. Is it empty? The middle finger still has the ring but the ring finger is empty. Me thinks this marriage is over.

If you look thats not even the hand the wedding band goes on...thats her right hand...not her left!! Don't look for reasons to hate her...lol...there are enough already!

Can't stand her! said...

This woman will not stop. All she cares about is being a celebrity, and the all mighty dollar. I read the People article, and nothing, of course, is her fault. Guaranteed, that in the new season, Kate will be "supermom". She will get more sympathy, for being a single mother of 8 kids. The free stuff will be rolling in. She doesn't get it. But 10-15 years in the future, she will have the same relationship with her children, that she has with her mother.
Also, if they do go through with a divorce, The judge needs to go through their finances, and divide them up 10 ways evenly. If she's left in any control over the childrens finances, they will end up with nothing. At least the kids have each other.

Carolrs said...

The photos of Jon on justjared from yesterday show him wearing his wedding ring. I have to say (except for the part about him scratching his stomach) he is looking much better. In a lot of pictures he seemed bloated and heavier but I think he looks good.

I agree with others that the pictures with Kate say a lot. No one smiling but the Queen.

I think that other guy is some kind of bodyguard. What is weird is that he is the only one wearing a coat. It was warm today and he must have been sweating. I'm wondering if he is wearing it to hide something - like maybe he is carrying a gun for protection.

Maybe my imagination is running wild but it seems odd. I still don't see the need for even one bodyguard let alone one who is armed.

Karma said...

Boycott EVERYTHING on TLC, pass it on to every board on the internet. Add it as a comment to every J & K article.

It is the only way to end this!

themediaguy said...

First, I want to say a big congrats to the women on this site. You folks were early and generally on the mark from the beginning. Well done.

Second, all this publicity is a gold mine for TLC/Discovery. Everyday J&K+8 stays in the news, the executives are tickled pink. All publicity is good/great publicity. Remember, the network went into this knowing the show had a finite shelf life. It has lasted longer than initial expectations. Add in the tremendous and rising ratings over the past 18 months and you can only imagine the profitability of this "content" for a cable network. IMHO, it has put TLC on the map and helped them generate a whole slew of original content (look at all the other similar shows that have come on the network) generating revenues/profits for the network.

The ratings for the next season will no doubt be tremendous. The ad revenues should be mind blowing. And the show will likely continue on for at least another season after this next one. The only thing that can stop this train is J&K themselves (by quitting) which does not look likely. Add the fact that the big O(prah) has a major tie to Discovery (and thus TLC) expect to see more coverage of all this J&K+8 mess. O will most likely do a big show to address the rumors soon which will generate further interest for the show

I hope for the best for the children and family and hope all come out relatively unscathed ( if that is even possible at this point).

pretty is as pretty does said...

Man oh man, I just went and checked the pictures out for myself at justjared. That is ten ways to wrong. How can she be spewing all that hateful venom to People Magazine then put on that fake smile like everything is hunkydorie. How the heck can sheeple not see right there she is a fraud. She is all boo hoo a week ago to People and now all smiles. The older girls look so sad, they know what is going on, give me a break they are protected at school from the magazines. And who frankly wears 3 inch stack heels to Party City on a Saturday afternoon??? Let the kids dress like individuals.

NahnCee said...

I'd say Ms. Kate's looking pretty frazzled, too.

Good. Maybe it's sinking in that she's in deep doo-dah.

It looks like an overcast day and she's wearing ginormous Brittany shades -- to cover red eyes?

You *know* the TLC suits have got to be talking frantically to her, and re-evaluating their position(s). Why on earth are they still going ahead with this charade, which just makes every single adult involved look criminally complicit?

When the children reach 18, if not earlier, in my opinion they should sue TLC for child abuse.

linda said...

There's an article in Entertainment Weekly that shows photos taken on May 3. Everyone eating at a restaurant in Reading (Redding? Pa). Jon has his face covered with his hands and obviously doesn't want to be there. They have adorable photos of each child individually. Then, there's a pic of Jon and Kate back to back. She's smiling her fool head off like nothing's wrong, they're all so happy. Jon looks so miserable. I've seen people in mug shots looking much happier. How can you just pretend nothing is wrong and think we won't notice.

Exhausted said...

So my question is: now what?

I think both Jon and Kate have washed their hands of this whole marriage joke...I don't think there will be any trying to make it work or putting the kids first. I read the People article on here last night, and then my wife read it. She said, "Where do they go from here? Kate has betrayed him so despicably by hashing out all their issues in magazine."

It's so true. At first, it seemed natural for a "celebrity" (vomit) to be talking about something in People because the public expects to hear all the details. But then you realize, it's none of the public's damn business. How dare she tell a magazine how unhappy he's been or how hard (vomit again) she's tried to find something for him to do. All she cares about is painting a victim/heroine picture of herself and a pathetic picture of him.

She will be sorry if he decides to strike back, but as I see it, he's caught between a rock and a hard place. If he doesn't speak up, he has to have her word as final out there, and she and her PR person have colored it only to her advantage. But if he does speak up, he will have to trash her, and that's counter-productive to their children.

I guess he should just put all his energy into nurturing their children and letting her hang herself. I don't think the public (no, not you, sheeple--I know she has you forever) will continue to buy the Kate as victim charade.

What they should really do is focus on fixing their problems and being each other's partners where they are a united front and each other's best friend. But we know Jon is too angry and pathetic and Kate is too obsessed with herself.

I support the other posts that we should not watch by any means. I've been clean since green , and it feels good. TLC is horrible for letting this continue, and that should not be supported. I know many of us are just dying to see this trainwreck unfold and how it will be handled, but once you understand that all the dealings with it on the show will be purely staged, fake, lying BS and not the real warts and all stuff, it might make the decision easier. Plus, a lot of the crap was filmed much earlier, while they were still pretending.

I can't get those sad faces out of my head juxtaposed against their witch mother's clueless grin. Her acting coach needs to tell her to stay in character. "Your marriage is over, Kate. Your character has children. She would be upset about all this."

Miss Meliss said...

Sad that the only time Kate will ever take the kids somewhere "alone" is when they're filming.

Should Jon have cheated - no
But I sincerely believe hes the lesser of two evils. Yes he contributed in the exploitation but I think he genuinely cares about the kids.
Who knows, maybe their marriage didnt just crumble over the cheating and the stress, maybe Jon actually tried to stick up for his children and said enough is enough. Of course he wouldnt have won that fight but we just dont know what really went on.

Pink said...

This observation from the HollywoodGrind site is logical, and I have thought the same thing of the calculating self-involved Kate.

"It sounds like Kate planned this from the start. First get the show and the books bringing income in, make herself a celebrity, cut Jon off in the bedroom then tell him it’s okay to find a girlfriend, start sleeping with the bodyguard to make Jon go crazy mad, and finally file for divorce when Jon looks like a cheating dog, and keep all the money. PURE EVIL."

scoobydoo said...

So sad to see Mady's face in the van.

JJ said...

How quickly people's minds change. A week ago everyone was shaming Jon for cheating, now it seems he's the victim again and he's been humiliated and what a great dad.

Paparazzi pictures tell stories told by whoever selects certain photos. Someone can look piss drunk coming out of a restaurant by posting half-blinking shots when they had nothing but water.

While I am not arguing Kate's pictures of the miserable kids, I doubt Jon was jumping for joy over being with his kids. If his behaviour on the show is any indication...

Both miserable, horrible parents and people. End of story. I'm not on anyone's side, neither should be pitied or felt sorry for. I hate this jumping around of who to feel sorry for. It should be the kids and that's it.

Chris said...

HannaBelleLechter said...

Looks like cause Steve WANTS to be there, I'd say. What are we to think about his own marriage and his childen's feelings?

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=05&evt=gosselin-party&pic=kate-gosselin-party-city-04.jpg-
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I spoke with some friends in the security business and they all agree that since Steve has been totally "outed" (home address and everything) he needs to be replaced as Take's security guy, go home to his family, and move. Not only has his ability to do this job been compromised, but also any other. Possibly he has put his own family at risk.

RealMom said...

These pictures are so staged, as were last weekend's paper towel outing. Did you notice how nice and clear they are as if the photographer walked directly in front of them taking the shots, while Jon's were taken from a distance and are not as perfect.Why didn't the bodyguards try to stop the photographer from taking pictures either when they were arriving or leaving? The photographer must be on the TLC staff since he or she only seems to show up when Kate goes home and then ventures out. I would love to know who owns the rights to these photos. Maybe Kate or TLC? TLC must be in hog heaven with all this publicity.

JJ said...

Also, I think I may be the only one here who is disappointed that Jodi and Kevin came forward. I'm sorry, spreading more hatred and drama and drawing more attention is not looking out for the children.

I do believe they love the kids but I don't think it was a wise choice. Further slandering your sister in law/sister isn't helping the current situation in any way. I understand being very frustrated and angry about the whole thing but IMO they aren't doing anything productive in the "dealing with it privately" department.

They could have met with someone PRIVATELY to sort things out if they were truly concerned, not go to a gossip website and Star(!!!!one of the worst magazines!). I think it shakes their credibility.

k-in-sf said...

Unfortunately, the episode at Charm City Cakes was probably filmed before all of the latest news broke.
The people there are pretty righteous, with very sensitive BS meters.
They would not tolerate someone like Kate otherwise.
I was horrified to see Kate invading Charm City Cakes, gah! The only thing that kept me from being totally bummed out was knowing that, like HiThere said, Duff & Co are the real deal, and surely saw through Kate's BS immediately.

Jennifer D said...

Jennifer Aniston can go to starbucks

Cameron Diaz can stroll the streets

Reese Witherspoon can go jogging...

and yet NONE of these people need a friggen BODY GUARD.

So why does Kate need one again?

JJ said...

One last comment: I have been trying not to follow all of this too much because it's so ridiculous but the articles about Jon being so hurt and upset that Kate is spending time with Steve was so stupid. Everyone was so quick to "change sides" so to speak.

Jon cheats, shame on him, but Kate deserved it afterall. She's a shrew right? But Jon is sad that Kate is hanging around Steve and suspects cheating. Poor Jon? What?

If they're both having affairs then they're both guilty. This is all so ridiculous. Not sure why Jon is being given a free pass, especially since a couple of weeks ago we were all suspecting a cheating contract, separation or open marriage. But when Kate cheats, for shame!

GRY said...

In the pics discussed here you can clearly read what is on the mind of he twins and the little ones. They're wondering where daddy is and would rather be with dad then mom and this stranger.

Kate is deliberately doing this to rub Jon's face in it, it's the equivalent of saying, see I'm with my new lover now and the future stepfather of your kids and there is nothing you can do about it!

Kate really doesn't care about the wants, needs and desires of her children. You can see it in her face that this is a mission she's going accomplish with grim determination. Also that she's put out that she has to be doing this rather then being on the road and focusing on her new career.

Can you imagine if it does come to pass that Steve eventually ends up a stepdad? I can bet you that since he's ex-military and a professional bodyguard that the kids will be in the equivalent of boot camp, with her obsessions with obedience/order and his holding disciple it will be a living hell for the kids.

It could be that Jon is already "out" of the picture and all that remains is to legally dispose of him. If he really chooses to fight for his kids she'll make him pay for every inch. Kate is not one to take anyone challenging her authority.

The twins will be a huge deciding factor as they're getting to the age where they can articulate their wishes and very verbally.

I really feel saddened for the kids, I think despite Jon's transgressions he does love his kids as human beings. Kate on the other hand seems to look at them like a chore or challenge which needs to be conquered.

The photos don't show a single smile in her face, contrast that to when she's alone and on the road away from the family, where she calls all the shots and has total control along with her bodyguard. A bright smile as if saying, I finally away from those brats!

In 5-8 years when the kids are teenagers and not so easily tamed but very damaged will she finally say, Ok, they're of no use to me now, throw them over to live with their dad and let him pick up the pieces.

TLC doesn't realize the extent to which they've damaged their reputation as a wholesome family channel(for the most part). With Kate in the payroll they'll turn into a parody of Spike TV.

Unfortunately, there is little anyone can do to directly affect the situation, for every former viewer boycotting the series, 2 new ones will tune in to watch the train wreck.

They're promoting the season premiere they way sports networks promote a pay per view prime boxing match. I'll bet you anything that the advertising rates for that episode will be double the usual(at least) and will be twice the length of a regular episode. Who knows, maybe they'll set up a surprise counseling session with Dr.Phil dropping in to "help out" in a network cross advertising deal.

There is a lot of money to be made and if they have to sink a marriage and family to do it TV execs will always pick the money.

Stay tuned for the bloodbath :(

Chris said...

Dancing Nancy,

Gymboree has admitted they gave freebies in the past and they let TLC film inside their store in one episode. I have boycotted gymboree (which was hard for the last 8 months). I called and wrote to gymboree and I got an email and got 2 phone calls back both stating gymboree is not giving Kate freebies anymore and will not in the future. I still have not returned to shopping there just in case since she still has the clothes on them all the time. Have yet to see the walmart clothes mentioned on Rachel Ray.

pretty is as pretty does said...

On TMZ they have a picture of Jon alone with the kids, TMZ IMOP is totally taken up for Jon. If you want to leave a comment, it is pretty much ANTI Kate now. But of course the koolaid drinkers are posting to. I just like to add my 2cents to support TMZ's coverage.

Lisa said...

I am amazed that Steve Neild is still in the picture after all the negative press and scrutiny. He has his own family to consider and why would he put his family in a situation like this, not to mention his career?? I just about cried looking at the photos of the kids..the stony look on Mady's face spoke volumes and it just makes me so sad

sunnysideup said...

I am a first time poster but have been lurking for awhile...this site has been very enlightening, even though I had my suspicions about Jon and Kate's marriage for awhile now...their body language speaks volumes.

My question is about the timeline of these events - the "separation," the move to the new house, etc. Do we know when these things actually happened, not just when they aired on TLC?

I would be interested to go back to check the episodes filmed around these times and check out their scenes together and of course their attitudes toward each other and body language.

Thanks! And also, thank you to the mods of this site for your obvious hard work and dedication to this cause!

Nicole said...

I went to a book signing of Tori Spelling and she didn't have a bodyguard. I think Tori is way more famous than Kate. Tori was very friendly and smiled alot.

sueshe said...

I don't ever remember Kate going out with the kids without Jon. She couldn't handle it! Nice that Steve was there to help her out.

TLC...why are you airing a show about their marital problems?
To try and win over an audience that is just a bit fed up with the charade? Why don't we let the KON's work on their marriage alone, not in front of the cameras and let the show just fade off in the sunset. Let them take care of what is most important...the kids!!!

With what I know about Kate and Jon now, I don't believe a word that they are conveying on tv. I certainly don't care to watch anymore of their scripted show. And I have enough of Kate's demeaning attitude!!!
.....RIP....

Silly Milly said...

JJ said...
Also, I think I may be the only one here who is disappointed that Jodi and Kevin came forward.
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You are not the only one JJ! I am so glad to see your post b/c ITA. Talking to the Star is no help at all. And it looks like they were paid. Julie should at least deny that and put that rumor to rest? Unless they WERE paid???

Leanne said...

JJ

You really dont know whether Jody or Kevin did not try to discuss this privately and I don't consider what they did as 'slander' or 'spreading hatred'..Kate is the hateful one in the family and I am very proud of Kevin and Jody for speaking the truth and being the only people close to that family who actually stepped up and spoke out..would it have been better if they stayed silent and let Kate attempt to continue to fool the world with her lies and greed? Not in my opinion!

Greedlins gotta go said...

What is so pathetic is that having a bodyguard is Kate's lame attempt at paying someone to be around her. I highly doubt she has friends and her life has become so small from driving away everyone around her that she is reduced to paying for companionship

Barb said...

RealMom: I think TLC might allowed the paparazzi to photograph for a future episode. If TLC doesn't address the paparazzi, then it's not really 'reality'.

I also do think the pictures are clear because it's in a public location. The one of Jon and the kids at their konpound are on private land so it would make sense to be in the bushes.

readerlady said...

Checked out the pix on JustJared. Not one smile among the 8, but a big fat cheese-eatin'grin from K8. She's loving every minute of the attention.

Re the empty ring finger - that's her right hand in the photo, so no wedding band would be there anyway.

itsgottabebrutal said...

I had some thoughts today about what it must be like to be behind the scenes of the Jon&KatePlusEight show, like if you were one of the cameramen or an editor. I know one of the episodes profiled those types of workers a little but, I mean really, were they going to say anything on film that wasn't complimentary? It's their employment after all, and we're in a recession; they've got families to feed, too. Over time, though, being an employee and knowing your hard work is a sham and the reality show is all one big lie, and maybe you're in the background squirming and wincing when the fighting is going on between Jon and Kate, it had/has to be wearing on you to where you start to question, or continue to question, is this job worth it? Bet they go home at the end of a day's filming just feeling beat up from the strain. A stressful work environment can damage your health.

I had a relative who worked at a job where the product being sold was overhyped and he felt he was being pressured too much to sell it to people who really didn't need it (especially the elderly). He just couldn't take it anymore or live with himself over it, so he quit. It was rough...he needed the income...but he had to make a decision. I applauded him for good character. It stole some of his innocence; he had tears in his eyes telling me about it.

I know there's been speculation in the past on this site about the disappearance of one key camera person (Scott?) and a producer on the show (Jen..?... who Kate threw the diaper at...). What do you want to bet that they went to their supervisors and said, "look, this is what's really going on with the Gosselins; we're not doing reality anymore...this is a joke. Please reassign me." (Well, not exactly those words, but you know what I mean...)

A moral and financial dilemma for an employee...and not just a filming predicament (trying to get enough neutral or believable footage). What if behind-the-scenes production people are parents and can't stand another minute of watching bad parenting? We've seen that the kids interract with the production staffers (didn't Kate say they view them as family?) so, if we as viewers came to love those kids, don't you imagine the production crew in the home did, too, being right there with them every week. Would be so hard not to step in and open your mouth (risk getting fired...).

As the theories fly, wonder if any behind-the-scenes staff started tipping off outsiders in a subtle way or maybe blogging anonymously if they felt powerless about the rising tide of Gosselin make-believe, even if it meant the demise of the show could mean the end of their jobs? Not accusing anybody unfairly at all.. maybe they sign some kind of confidentiality agreements...but I would sure understand and not fault them if they began to speak up here and there in small, creative ways for the sake of the kids (and their own sanity).

Because, yes, all of this always comes back to the kids and the wisdom of continuing to put cameras in their faces year after year. Kate said something about the kids being able to choose whether or not they want to participate and be part of the filming on any given day. Take a look at the eight little faces in today's photos on the web showing them obviously being filmed (see the long microphone)at some sort of party store. Do you think they look happy on this errand in their perfectly-matching outfits? Makes one wonder, doesn't it.

letthetruthbetld said...

Being a hairstylist, I noticed something.....I just saw the Party City pictures and I noticed the boys have fairly new shaved heads...seems like the not-a-nanny may have taken the boys in for 1 last free haircut !They just had to milk those freebies right up to the end of the 5 yr period. Also, I have never had even 1 person ask to "rock" Kate's hairstyle nor has anyone in our salon so not "everyone wants it" like Kate thinks !
I know it's trivial in this mess , but I just wanted to share.

Just Sayin' said...

"Looks like cause Steve WANTS to be there, I'd say. What are we to think about his own marriage and his children's feelings?"

I know! He spends way more time with Kate than with wife, apparently. He'd have to, given as much time as they spend on the road PLUS the time he spends with her in her when she's home.

Imagine how his wife feels. He's spending day after day with this younger (than he) woman whose always tanned, manicured, and dressed to the nines in designer duds. He's with her and her children, doing family-type errands. He's out on the road with her, undoubtedly sharing meal after meal with her. He's certainly listening to her cry on his shoulder about her troubles.

What woman would be comfortable with that? This is a recipe for marital disaster.

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"I'm sure with all those kids they need more that one bodyguard."

Jon appears able to take the kids out and about without bodyguards.

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"One of the things I really don't understand is how she can have such little regard for her marriage."

Because like everything else in Kate's world, her marriage was a means to an end. Now that she has her moneymakers and can afford people to do all the things she relied on (and nagged) Jon to do, she doesn't need a husband.

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"Why is there a close up of Kate's hand on Just Jared? Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it her right hand that is showing? The one we need to see is the left."

The picture made me wonder WHO might have given her a wedding band type of diamond ring that she'd wear on her RIGHT hand?

Could there be a little "private promise" kind of thing going on between Kate and some silver haired man?

timetogokon said...

Love how K8 makes Mady carry her handbag.

dougsmom said...

I'm afraid "themediaguy" just said it all, folks. Read what he wrote here.

MARYHOU88 said...

downtheroad said...
ok, on the just jared site...the photo is of kates right hand. I don't know about you...but my wedding ring is on my LEFT HAND!

Second...MAYBE they are having the kids birthday party a week later because their actual birthday is mothers day....and who would want to go to a kids birthday party on Mother's day.

5/16/2009 6:42 PM

HMMMMM...... MAYBE KATE WAS TOO BUSY ON MOTHERS DAY NONETHELESS TO NOT BE WITH HER CHILDREN. ISN'T THAT WHAT MOTHERS DAY IS ABOUT?? BUT SPEND IT IN NYC ALONE & COMPLAINING ABOUT LITTLE OLE ME IN PEOPLE MAGAZINE INTERVIEW. I FOUND IT FUNNY TO SEE THE PINATAS FROM PARTY CITY TODAY IN PICTURES..... TOO LITTLE TO LATE SO IT WAS NOT ABOUT THE KIDS JUST HER.(OF COURSE)

Cherier1 said...

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20278901_2,00.html#pagecomments

None are positive yet.

MARYHOU said...

FORGOT TO COMMENT ON WHY STEVE IS STILL WITH KATE & NOT HIS FAMILY........ HELLO $1600 A DAY :) GREEDY AS WELL & NOT LOOKING OUT EMOTIONALLY FOR HIS FAMILY IN MY OPINION.

iheartmyhubby said...

RealMom is totally right. Steve the bodyguard (hired by TLC) would never allow a paparazzi to take photos of them filming an episode. These are so obviously staged.

Can't you tell? Kate is never with her kids until the cameras are rolling...JUST LIKE KEVIN SAID!!

Why can't you be a parent when the cameras are off, Kate? You disgust me.

MomofDNA said...

If I were to write a letter to Kate, it would be this:

Dear Kate,

You seem to like free stuff, so here is some free advice for you.

First, if you cannot honor your commitment to Jon and stay married to him, at least honor the commitment we all heard you make to your family—that when doing the show was no longer fun, you would stop the show. Take a good long look into those eight little faces. They are not having fun. So stop the show. Get the lights and the cameras out of your home. It is not a healthy environment for your family or your marriage, and I am assuming you care about at least one of those. Shut it down immediately, contract or no contract. There is no one that will blame you for doing so at this point. You’d probably gain more fans.

Second, start being HONEST in all aspects of your life. Live the way you want to, but at the very least do it honestly.

For instance, if you no longer wish to be married to Jon, so be it. I am the last person to demand that a marriage last forever, especially if the love is gone. But then end the marriage. Don’t try to fool the public into thinking you and Jon are still together just to help the ratings. Be honest with him, and with your children. If you fake your marriage when the cameras are rolling, what impact will that have on your children? Be honest with them.

All along we have heard you say you were doing the show “for the kids”, to ensure they would have funds for college. I think most parents would love to know that there is money saved for their children’s education ahead of time; there is nothing wrong with that. But the amount of money needed for eight college educations was surpassed long ago, and we know this because we are not stupid and we can do the math. So admit that you want to continue doing the show for the fame and fortune aspect, not so that your children will have the basics. You are pursuing it for your own interests, not theirs. Be honest.

If you want a career, that’s great! Many mothers choose to have careers that make them feel fulfilled. If this is your choice, then by all means do it! But then don’t say that you are a stay-at-home-mom, or even a work-from-home-mom. You are clearly not, because you are rarely home. Be honest.

If you want to be away from home to pursue your career, so be it. But don’t pretend that you are exhausted from taking care of eight children all the time, and cooking and cleaning and schlepping, and everything else mothers do on a daily basis. You have not been home. Someone else is doing those things. Most likely several people are doing those things. You are clearly not. Be honest.

If you want to write books and go on book tours, good for you! Write all the books you want. However, if someone co-authors a book with you, give them credit! Don’t give the impression that you wrote the entire thing. Be honest.

People do not like being lied to, Kate. And though your “true” fans will excuse your behavior for reasons known only to them, most people will soon begin to see through your scam, if they haven’t already. And they will feel betrayed. However, if you were to stand up and be totally honest about your life—which you have willingly put on display—then the backlash will be less severe. You say you don’t care about what others think about you. If you were honest with yourself, you would admit that you care very much. Saying you don’t care is your defense mechanism, to shield yourself from the hurt and shame that you know is in your heart. The cure to that is honesty. You will earn the respect and admiration that you so clearly desire, rather than receive it by using your children as props in a make-believe play.

Stop the show. That must be done, and done immediately. You are not involved in a reality show at all, because you stopped living in reality quite a while ago. And who could blame you? Regardless of your intentions, the situation you were in 5 years ago was quite real—being responsible for 8 children under the age of 4 is enough to overwhelm anyone. And you were correct when you said it was not a glamorous job. That was your reality, and it most likely terrified you. Somewhere along the line, you decided to step outside that reality and reinvent yourself into someone who could handle it all and shine and be the glamorous person I believe you wanted to be all along. Now you have the spotlight, but you are standing in it alone. Is that what you want?

Be honest.

lindahoyt said...

Nanb...you are right. She doesn't have a boyfriend, just like she doesn't have a nanny.

RealMom said...

I have been following the US and EW weekly magazines online. Every day they added another feature on Kate. One day, her hair. Next day, her body makeover, Next day, something else. The interesting thing was alot of comments asked who she was, what show she was on, and why everybody was so interested in her and her marriage. Seems to me alot of people who never even heard of her are now real interested in watching the show to find out why everyone is talking about her. Brilliant marketing.

lindahoyt said...

Steve should have been removed from this duty. His name is out there, and now there is the appearance of impropriety between him and Kate. This is actually very unprofessional behavior.

To be an effective security detail, you must blend into the background. He can not longer do this. For safety sake he should not continue with this detail. It is obvious that the two have become too close.

This is highly unprofessional. If this is the way they run their business, I certainly would NEVER want them working on our security!

The best in the security business, is an Australian company anyway. Kiwis are just Aussie wanna bees! LOL!

chellt said...

Am I the only one that thinks this a very well planned publicity gold mine? I am sure there will be a book in the near future about how they "overcame" the perils of celebrity...

I personally can't help but hope that their nightmare of a mother continues to make mega $$$ because those poor babies are going to need all the $$$ they can get for therapy :(

RealMom said...

Of course, the kids do not look happy and are not smiling in the pictures. After all, they are at work. Not too many people are happy when they have to go to work!

lindahoyt said...

These pictures on Just Jared, and then the ones of Jon from friday, tell quite a story.

Jon and the kids look absolutely miserable. Kate, is having the time of her life...well, to a degree. She is a little "stressed" because she doesn't really like to be with her kids...but, other than that, there isn't even a hint of sadness. She has her man and her tv show and boat loads of money!

RobyninReading said...

Hmm, I wonder why Kate didn't buy the birthday supplies last week when she was at Target? Party City is in the same shopping center. I guess she had to tip off the paparazzi to show off the children with her. The kids all look so sad on those pics.

We drove by the Gosselin's house today (because we have a client out there). It was very strange to see EVERY single car on their road was from out of state. I'd love to know how many people do 'drive-by's' from out of state. That's pretty creepy. I'm glad I'm not living her life.

stylistgege said...

Seth Myers just made a joke about Jon and Kate on weekend update Saturday night live. They are everywhere this week.

Pauper Princess said...

I viewed those JustJared photos. OMG. My heart is breaking looking at those faces. Where the eff is Jon? Shouldn't be there? If Kate didn't want him to be, shouldn't he have INSISTED on it?

This whole situation is terrible. I don't think there are any winners, nor will there be, sadly. At this point, from what I have seen and read, I would agree at this point that Jon should get the kids, but...does he want them? I am just asking. I would hope so.

I wish she'd get her head out of her behind and seriously consider what she is losing. I would like to think that this relationship could be salvaged, but it's probably just wishful thinking. I just don't understand how you can just throw away 10 yrs of marriage without a backwards glance.

Mom in Maine said...

I'm an occassional watcher of J&K+8 and thats all you have to be to notice how much things have changed. I used to be able to relate to her, not as a mother of multiples, but as a wife & mother who cooks, cleans, mantains a home and is trying to raise healthy children. This is no longer the case or reality tv anymore though. They moved into a million $$ home and neither J or K work anymore. Never mind the numerous vacation they go on. Thats not reality! And if you watch sneak peaks at this season, Emeril comes to their house. Get real! You don't even see Kate's brother and sister in law who were the only family members you'd see on the show anymore. I've seen interviews with Kate promoting her book and she says she doesn't care if it sells one copy, she wrote it so her children would have in writing how much she loves them. Well put your words into actions J&K. Get off the TLC gravy train,make working on your marriage your first priority, and your children will be just fine. I'm sure those children would trade in all the material goods for a mom and dad who are happily married.

jill said...

I find it funny. Kate is with an older, mature man. Jon is with an immature, young girl. I think they have found their soul mates. They compliment them so well! (snark)

Jana said...

Karma said...

Boycott EVERYTHING on TLC, pass it on to every board on the internet. Add it as a comment to every J & K article.

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I agree with you, and I have already begun doing just that. TLC is not viewed in my home. Period. I hope everyone here follows through and boycotts the entire network.

As to the poster who said Kate requires a bodyguard because otherwise no adults would hand out with her -- too true! That woman doesn't have a single friend in the world (no surprise there).

If anyone needs a bodyguard, it would be the kids. Even that I think is unnecessary.

I think Steve Nield is a sell out and an idiot. He's there for the money, and he'll do anything to keep that money coming in, like carrying her purse, rubbing her feet, and smoozing up to her hideousness. What a loser! However, they are alike in their lust for money, so maybe they deserve each other.

I also agree -- this marriage cannot be saved. I think the divorce judge should split the money into ten parts, the children's 1/10 to go into a trust to be administered by someone appointed by the court (most definitely not the con artist known as Kate). Kate can have her 10%, Jon should take his 10%, sign over the McMansion to her entirely, and get an order that the children will no longer be filmed for public consumption!

Kate will lose interest in the kids once they no longer make money for her to spend. Out of spite, she won't let Jon have visitation one second more than is court-ordered, so she'll jet off and leave them with caregivers.

The sheeple will still think she's a great mom, because they are really that stupid. In that case, I don't care if she rips them off for their last penny, they deserve it.

I sincerely hope Jon is speaking to some high powered attorneys in his area. With the money at stake, surely there is more than one who would be happy to represent him.

I'd love to see Kate end up in that McMansion, unable to pay the property taxes, car repossessed, and her bodyguard gone, now that he's no longer collecting a paycheck. She'll hook up with some other schlub, take him for all he's worth, but she'll never have the same limelight she did while the show was on and it will eat at her every day.

Finally, when the children are grown, at least one of them is going to write a tell all book. And the sheeple will say, "oh, they're just jealous! If they had the same opportunity, they'd do the same as their mom did." Idiots.

pretty is as pretty does said...

to; itsgottobebrutal, i was thinking the same thing about the crew. One should write a tell all and walk away from the show.

lindahoyt said...

Funny how the synopsis for the first episode, the one that included the 5th birthday party; included the fact that the kid's birthday party included pinatas....and there Kate is, buying pinatas---today! hmmmmmm guess tlc was psychic?

Or......could it be? No! THE SHOW IS STAGED?!! Written ahead of time? NO WAY! IT IS A REALITY SHOW...THE REALEST REALITY SHOW ON TELEVISION...

Also, with the angle of the car, "Toys R Us" must be kicking in some advertising $$.

jill said...

Did anyone hear that TLC is planning on 40 episodes for season 5?

Concerned Thinking Parent said...

8 Sad Little Faces :(

Free the Gosselin 8!

lindahoyt said...

Listen, there are a lot of crazy people out there who would love to kidnap the kids; and/or kill them. There are sexual sickos who fixate on those little ones. There is a very good reason to have body guards. I do not fault the family for having them. But, when the body guard is looking at Kate--holding her purse, or directing the children; and when he is so well known, it compromises his ability to effectively protect the family.

His presence there is very unprofessional, and frankly it is also dangerous. There are other wackos who will target HIM, for breaking up the family they feel they know and love.

Security needs to be unseen and unknown.

Phyllis said...

I wonder whether Steve will make it on camera in that episode or it he'll stay off-camera the way the nannies do? I noticed they had the big van at Party City. There's no Jon there, so I wonder how Kate will explain driving "hither, thither, and yon" since she's already said that she doesn't do that. I'd bet my next paycheck that Steve drove. I'd also bet that if he did, it will be cut. It will look way too bad for the alleged "other man" to be driving the family van.

Donna said...

Oh my GOD, why are Mady and Cara still dressing the same? Its honestly getting ridiculous now. Even the sextuplets are too old for that.

And of course, Jon's not there.

Let's see if the "Sextuplets Turn 5!" episode claims it is their actual birthday. I'm all for celebrating birthdays on days other than your actual birthday, I really don't see anything wrong with that. BUT, I guarantee, TLC and Kon say its their actual birthday, which is a stupid and unnecessary lie that the kids are now forced to make as well.

lindahoyt said...

Jennifer Aniston, Cameron Dias, and Reese Witherspoon DO have security details...they just have better ones, who stay out of the limelight. Mr. Neild is highly unprofessional, I am afraid.

As another posteer stated, he has put the Gosselins, himself and his own family in danger.

There are a LOT of crazy people on our streets in America, because in this country mentally ill people are expected to take care of themselves. They can not be institutionalized anymore. And they are out there thinking crazy thoughts, and wanting to harm those kids. Don't doubt it. But, there are others who would harm the Neilds as well. Did you every watch the movie with Robin Williams as the photo guy? There are really people like that. Who will want to "protect" the Gosselin family from this teacher, and the Neilds...

lilmamaD said...

I just had a stomach-churning thought after reading the new EW article about them obtaining passports. I really hope it's not for them to go overseas to ADOPT! I really, really hope that is not what they are hinting on to....

GRY said...

What is sad and frightening is the media frenzy building up, if out of town cars are out front and paps are setting up their long telephotos then it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Their acreage is going to become like a fortress under siege and they'll need to really boost their security because as the "fame index" rises you can bet the nuts and fanatics won't be far behind.
Think bright compound lighting and security patrols to keep the paps from sneaking onto the grounds for "exclusive" photos.

What the parents have done is to condemn all of them to living in a prison...

lindahoyt said...

Wow, what am I doing here, when it is time for bed? Geez have I been misspelling tons of words.

See, unlike Kate, I know when to quit!

What will tomorrow bring?

Girlie said...

I wouldn't be surprised if TLC and KHate spin this into "Look at poor us trying to go to Party City for the kids and the paparazzi are bothering my children."

Really, the only way TLC is going to get the message is if ratings drop like a lead balloon. TLC and KHate have proven they will stop at nothing to keep this farce of a show going,even at the expense of the children's well being. It's all about ratings=money.

I know a lot of people are saying "I'm not going to watch." It's time to really get serious and follow through. Tivo and DVR counts as watching. These companies keep track of what shows are recorded.

I'm sure it will be on Youtube and recapped all over the next day, but right now it's time to hit them where it hurts, in the revenue department. It's time to send them the message loud and clear, stick a fork in this show, IT'S DONE!

Anonymous said...

Cattytew I hope this goes thru, been lurking for awhile, but had problems trying to post.
Poor Kate! She is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and its definitely a train. I don't know the laws in Penn. but wouldn't any contract involving minors, have to be reviewed by a judge? They do here and you would think it be standard everywhere. AND I would think, under the circumstances, that there will be no spin-off for Kate. Again, in the divorce/custody agreement, Jon can request that the kids not be filmed anymore. Unless the judge was a complete idiot, he would certainly take the opportunity to act in the kids best interest and stop the insanity. I know everyone says for Kate to go home and take care of her kids, but really, can you imagine her home all day doing it? Talk about insanity. Staying at home all day with any amount of kids is not for the weak. She could never handle it.

CopMama said...

I work full-time, evenings, and have a little girl. I only get to give her a bath and put her to bed two days a week. I miss my little girl.

It makes me sick that Kate doesn't have to be away from them this much, but does it anyway. She is missing out on so much. It's sad. And one day, she'll be an old lady (by herself, since Mr. Gray is older, ha) wishing she had all that time again. Maybe.

GRY said...

Blogger Pauper Princess said...

I viewed those JustJared photos. OMG. My heart is breaking looking at those faces. Where the eff is Jon? Shouldn't be there? If Kate didn't want him to be, shouldn't he have INSISTED on it?

This whole situation is terrible. I don't think there are any winners, nor will there be, sadly. At this point, from what I have seen and read, I would agree at this point that Jon should get the kids, but...does he want them? I am just asking. I would hope so.

I wish she'd get her head out of her behind and seriously consider what she is losing. I would like to think that this relationship could be salvaged, but it's probably just wishful thinking. I just don't understand how you can just throw away 10 yrs of marriage without a backwards glance.

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Jon could have insisted on going but with the unofficial divorce that would have been very awkward. I would bet that TLC and the production company talked to Jon and asked him not to accompany the kids this time around.

As for how Kate could throw away 10 years of marriage?, she threw it away five years ago. If you look at the series you can see her contempt building through the years for Jon, almost from the beginning of the main series.

I really believe that Kate had much of this planned out and Jon has become a liability and therefore disposable. She's demonstrated she can easily dispense with other family relationships so her husband is no exception. The People article was essentially her sending a Termination of Employment notice to Jon and doing a Donald on him(ie You're Fired!).

Kate has shown the ability to be singlemindedly fixated and absolutely ruthless in attaining her personal goals.
My guess at this point in time is that Jon is being pressured/bribed by TLC and the production company to lay low for now and not rock the boat, or else risk breach of contract and fighting no only Kate in a divorce action but TLC in a breach if contract action at the same time, I don't think he has that much strength nor cash.

As for ratings, as Kate is a classic stage mother she will feel vindicated in her actions when the initial ratings are through the roof. Popularity and the Nielsen Index is her barometer of self esteem so she will feel "justified" in her decisions if viewing records for the show are broken at the Season 5 opening episode.

This doesn't bode at all well for Jon's position and unless he can retain competent and private legal counsel his goose and the children's are cooked.

GRY said...

I certainly will boycott the show, I used to like tuning in to watch the antics of the little ones. But now it's like watching puppies get a waterboarding treatment!

Those kids are not going to fake it any longer, the two older ones could if they chose to but the younger ones can't, if they are unhappy they'll show it whether Kate and TLC likes it or not!

soworriedforthekids said...

Why can't Jon, as a parent to these children put a stop to the filming? Why can't he stand up for the rights of his children, regardless of any contracts. Contracts are broken all the time, it may cost him some money but what is more important?... Even if he has to sell his car, golf clubs, dogs, or whatever to hire a lawyer!!(we know with Kate the money is more important). Whether they are married or not, he is their father and for the sake of his children he needs to put a stop to this. I think in his heart he knows that this is destroying his children's lives. I truly believe that Jon is the better parent. I have a feeling from watching that he was never really comfortable with this whole charade. His children are being put on display like animals in a zoo. The only difference between them and the Dionne's are that we don't have to travel to Canada to watch them through the "glass", we can just sit and watch through the "glass" in our living rooms. It has gotten so out of hand and what their mother is doing is disgusting. I really believe that Kate has some kind of mental illness, whether it be narcissism, sociopath, or pathological liar,(probably all three plus more) I hope that there is someone there with her when she is with the children to protect them. (and not the bodyguard)

I believe that she has come so far and become so "infamous" and rubbed it in all of her familys' and ex-friends faces, "hey look at me, look where I came from and look at me now, I'm a rich celebrity" that for her to give up would be such a defeat for her. That's why she says she can't go back. She has to save "face" and will not accept defeat. She really cannot look past the dollar signs. I really feel that she doesn't love those beautiful children the way a mother should. She looks at them as marketable objects.

This whole fiasco is such a shame!!! Those poor children... Please Jon, Jodi, Kevin, Beth or anyone associated with this family put a stop to this...no matter what it may cost you. In the long run you will be saving the sanctity of 8 children who did not ask for this!!!

And does Kate even realize that all of the mags are exploiting her? They know how egotistical she is...and how right now this is such a hot topic, and she has fallen for their spiel? Oh...Kate come do the cover for our "rag" so people feel sorry for you....and with her ego she falls for it. If you read between the lines these mags are really making fun of her and making $$$$ at the same time. She is so clueless.

To the people at TLC, figure8, Discovery, and all of their sponsors... as your are laughing all the way to the bank put your kids in the place of the Gosselins' children...is this what you would want for your children? You are all part of this, I hope you are proud!


"Stop the Kate" - get her the help she needs and save those innocent children!!! Give them their lives back!!

kelbell said...

i was looking at the party city pictures, and there is one picture where kate is walking with leah(?) and one of the boys and it shows a view of her left hand and it appears her wedding ring is on her middle finger.

Bunny said...

downtheroad said...
...MAYBE they are having the kids birthday party a week later because their actual birthday is mothers day....and who would want to go to a kids birthday party on Mother's day.
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More importantly, Who would FILM on Mother's Day? The crew wasn't filming so the party didn't happen until it was caught on camera.

Iguana said...

In one of the Party City photos you can see their van is taking up 2 parking spots....grr

jojow said...

Here's what I'm wondering...how is Kate going to spin it when she does start openingly dating the bodyguard - once the separation is announced?

Will the story be, "gosh, we realized we were attracted to each AFTER Jon and I separated...." Who's going to believe that?

I wonder what Steve's wife is saying/thinking about all this?

Nomes said...

Just looked at the just jared photos, poor kids! You'd think that there would be some emotion - excitement, happiness - on their faces, as they are getting stuff for their birthday ,nevermind it was a week before this, I'm sure any 5 year old would be excited at the prospect of a(nother?) birthday party! And I'm sure on the way to the party shop (being filmed, of course) Kate would've tried to muster up enthusiasm in the kids - like "Hey, we're going to get stuff now for your party, isn't that exciting"?

Yet not one single smile in any of those shots, and I bet not many more in the actual footage we'll see. So sad, and very telling!!!

Geoff B said...

When you're a punchline on SNL, you've long jumped the shark.

Let me clear my throat; the Gosselin children suffer. Jon and Kate have made a mile-high stack of bad decisions that is now collapsing on them.

TLC's Jon and Kate Plus 8 is an obscenity. Shut it down.

Tyra said...

Hey...maybe Jon could hire Gloria Allred to represent him in his divorce.

sueshe said...

OMG......good job Fox news... This morning the anchors were talking about Kate's hair and how she says everybody wants her hair style....it has attitude. They said "ladies don't cut your hair". They mentioned the back looking like a porcupine. I have yet to stop laughing!

scoobydoo said...

kelbell said...
i was looking at the party city pictures, and there is one picture where kate is walking with leah(?) and one of the boys and it shows a view of her left hand and it appears her wedding ring is on her middle finger

I think it's on her right hand.. she's facing you and it would be the opposite of your left, so, it's her right hand. Saw that also.

overwithKON said...

A funny but sad thought ran through my mind today! Jon could do a spin off called *The Real Whipped Husbands of Weinersville PA*!

UGH!

Natari said...

I for one will not be watching the new season. I think if I watched it would make me a major hypocrite.I just have to remind myself of when she fed the puppies and treated them worse than a dog if that's possible. (pun intended).

She made it very clear the dogs would never be allowed upstairs and then one of them yelped (he got pinched by the sliding door) when she threw them outside.Which is where they seem to live nowadays.

I happen to love German Shepherds so this makes me dislike her all the more. I obviously feel for the kids too because really the only true friends the kids have are the dogs.

Don't watch people and don't buy the products endorsed. If we all stick together she will be stopped!

TeeNealie said...

Idea - Boycott the show and petition TLC to go back to yearly updates.

I've been thinking about this all day yesterday and Jon & Kate probably both feel stuck. The only way they're going to stop the show is if TLC cancels it. The only way TLC will cancel it is to not make money, which means advertisers pull out.

Here's what I propose we do, as the viewers. If someone (moderator of this blog?) could post the advertisers for each episode on the blog, along with an email to contact them, let's send our emails directly to them AND to TLC. Something along these lines: "I used to watch TLC's Jon and Kate + 8 as a family show, that promoted family values. Now it is clearly exploiting the children, it's not good for the parents, and it's only to make money. I am offended by this show. I am offended by your sponsorship of it. I think it is unethical to support such a show that harms children, and as a company that markets to families and children, you should too. I am boycotting your products as long as you support this show. I have also contacted TLC to petition them to drop the show and go back to yearly updates with this family. The show as it is is clearly unethical and exploiting these children for fame and money. I will encourage everyone I know to do the same. Please pull your advertising from the show, and we the viewers, that care about these children, are begging TLC to cancel the show as well. Thank you."

What do you guys think? Would you do it?

Here's what I've been thinking: Kate will not cancel because she's stubborn and got it in her head she has to. It's ridiculous, but we've seen what it's like to argue with her.

Jon can't pull out because of Kate, and I believe even if he does love his kids greatly (as she does I'm sure) he's stuck. If he pulls out she'll spin it all her way and he'll be totally out of the picture. If he tries to go find a regular job, who's going to hire him with all that publicity. Who would want an IT analyst with media following him all the time? Plus, how would that salary let him pay for someone to watch the kids at home? So, they're both stuck with this as their 'job' until TLC pulls the plug. Hopefully the speaking engagements and others will be cancelled soon. We could send protest letters to them as well.

Basically, I think for this family to have hope to heal they have to get out of the public eye and stop using the media to fight their battles. But if the show was stopped that would be a good start. I'd love it if Jen Stocks, Jodi and others who care about the welfare of the kids would make a website that advocates just this sort of thing: let's help the kids and boycott this show. It's no longer good for these children, it's unethical and TLC needs to put an end to it. They won't unless viewers vote with their pocketbooks and voices.

I know on Focus on the FAmily in the past, they've given out the direct email and phone number to executives at Abercrombie and Fitch and others to call and complain, boycott, etc. and they were very effective. I think with all the genuine concern there is for the children, something like this would work. However, I am a homeschooling mom of two, with one on the way and don't have time to set up or manage this effort. Any volunteers? I genuinely care about the kids and Jon and Kate but I think this is the only way out for them. I think both the parents are trying to do their best and love their kids, but the media thing is just insane and now they're trapped. I wish Kate would decide to quit the show, but she won't and I'm sure she does feel scared too, though obviously she has some issues with control. The bottom line is if they stopped the show God would provide for them somehow, but she won't believe that I don't think.

I don't know what would happen to the house, but it's just a house. People live in smaller houses every day and are fine. So, they might lose the house. Better to lose the house than lose their children. These kids are all headed for disaster if things continue.

Thanks for your thoughts.

marylou said...

Scooby said...
How convenient that the Charm City Cakes episode ( Kate's B-day ) was filmed in Baltimore, Maryland....home of none other than one Steve Neild.
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Steve does not live in Baltimore. His business is in Rockville, MD and his home is a few miles north in North Potomac (Gaithersburg) MD.

Ruby said...

not one kid was smiling. Kate you need to sit and think about what this is doing to your kids. please take a year off and I just bet you will see your kids be kids again. and just maybe safe your marriage just maybe

Tess said...

3. This is Kate's ultimate revenge on Jon. She knows, full-well, that Jon has been publicly humiliated. Whether or not the affair is true is NOT the point! It is widely known that Jon was very hurt by Kate being seen with Steve, and as a man myself, I can tell you how humiliated Jon must feel. Kate recognizes this fact, and she is EXPLOITING it.

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I hear what you're saying but personally I think this will all back-fire on Kate. Jon will look like the good guy in the end, especially if he stops being on the show and ultimately becomes an advocate for the kids and gets them off the show as well (which he most certain can if he proceeds with a divorce.)

Can you imagine Kate's outrage if he files for divorce, seeks primary custody AND petitions the court to have the kids removed from all filming? She'd have a big uphill battle to fight and will have to spend thousands in legal fees to end this marriage and ultimately protect the kids.

Personally I think Jon will write a tell-all book about his life with Kate and it will be her demise, her end to her fake life and her scams over the years.

Though Kate thinks she's the one who is calling all the shots now, Jon is the one holding the cards in this marriage in my opinion. He is the one who can make this house of cards come crashing down on Kate and her Stevieboy. This is Jon's chance, once and for all, to show the world he has the balls to face Kate & to expose this life of lies she has created and stand up once and for all for his children and protect them when they need it most. I hope he does it for himself and his kids.

Nova said...

Damn it, people! At this point it doesn't matter about Kate's hair or Jon's car anymore! What matters is that there are eight children constantly showing up on TV and looking miserable! We already know that the kids are the only reason the adults are on TV, and that the children's parents have no visible means of support except for putting the kids on TV. We have adults making money, living the high life, and the kids are miserable!

It's time for the courts to get involved. First, forensic accounts need to be brought in to ascertain when, how, and why the adults are getting so much money and material goods. Then there needs to be an accounting on when and how the money was spent, how much for the personal gain of the adults, and how much was spent on the kids. At this point I’d also like to see how much TLC, the book publisher, and the bodyguard company are making off the 'show' (which is only possible if the children are on it). It should also come to light how much, if any, money was being set aside for the kids future.

Then, the courts should order a suspension of all public appearances and filming of the kids until mental evaluations have been made of every member of this so-called family.

I strongly suspect that the accountants will find that the kids are being used for the sole purpose of providing the adults and the aforementioned companies profit. I also think that it will be found that little or no monies have been put aside for the future maintenance and education of the children.

I think that the people evaluating the children will find that they are anxious, depressed, and have not been allowed a pleasant and fulfilling childhood, but instead they have been exposed to many situations that should only be experienced by mature and consenting adults. (I'm not talking sexual experiences here, I'm referring to the difference between real and fake, long shooting hours, and the understanding that the film crew are only there for you while your 'show' is a hit.)

Lastly, I believe that it will be found that Kate and Jon will be found incompetent to continue to parent their children without appropriate oversight from both financial and mental health professionals. I do suspect that Jon will be the better candidate to work to overcome his issues and become a better parent. I also strongly suspect that Kate will be found to have a personality disorder such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, that to this day remains unable to be successfully treated.

It's time for someone with authority and resolve to step in and make it all about the safety, the physical, and mental health about the children.

Nova

ellasmum said...

Those poor kids. It reminds me of the Trueman Show!!!. When this ends and it will, watch for Khate on Dancing with the stars!!!

Elle said...

The reason that Jon did not accompany the rest of the family to Party City to film is that it would dampen the fire of "Jon and Kate- Face to Face For the First Time" that the TWC (The Whoring Channel) is currently promoting. TLC used to be my favorite channel. I have noticed the shows becoming more and more sensationalistic (I can't actually accurately quote the titles, but they involve people with serious physical deformities, etc.). It reminds me of traveling "freak shows" back in the day, where people would pay a nickel to gawk at "monstrosities". I can understand how some people can find this interesting- learning how these people cope with their environments, discrimination, etc., but I believe the vast majority of the audience tune in to simply gawk and gasp at the grotesque. This is the target audience for the new season of Jon and Kate plus 8- The Jerry Springer crowd. The producers know that they have lost the educated people, so they are milking this travesty for all they can to appeal to both Sheeple and new Rubberneckers. Mental Picture Time: Sorry for "profiling" but I'm picturing a woman in a caftan setting aside her National Enquirer, lighting up a smoke and handing her baby a bottle with Coke in it to shut it up so she can watch the drama unfold between J&K and feel ever so slightly better about herself.

JJ said...

Leann - no, I don't know that Jodi and Kevin didn't try and sort it out privately before going to a trashy gossip magazine.

If we are playing by those rules, we don't know that J+K didn't try and sort it out privately, before stories broke and they felt they needed to defend themselves, or whatever.

We don't actually know ANYTHING. That is what happens when you are dealing with "celebrities" and the media. So you have to rely on what you've been told, what you see, and draw your own conclusions.

Jodi and Kevin going to STAR magazine (and I can't believe anyone thinks that was a good idea! Trashy, trashy gossip rag) to talk about the concern they have for the kids, IMO, was still not a good idea. It's akin to Michael Lohan, Lindsay Lohan's estranged father, always "reaching out to her" through the media when somethings going on. It makes you look like you seek attention for yourself and harms the cause.

And as someone else said, it makes it appear they were paid for their "concern". The general world already seems to dislike Kon at this point, and everyone is concerned for the kids now if only just for the divorce and affair drama. I don't think them coming forword did anything but discredit them and add more gossip to the shelves which you must admit only further hurts the kids, regardless of what it says.

Vane922 said...

My brother has worked in the production field for lifetime,disney and a few reality shows but not JK+8.They have contracts and can be sued for up to 1 million dollars so I highly doubt anyone from the film crew will say a peep.

SJ and ME + 3 said...

Greedlins gotta go said...
What is so pathetic is that having a bodyguard is Kate's lame attempt at paying someone to be around her.
ITA...
It's a reverse 'Pretty Woman', with Richard Gere being the payee instead of the payer.

Nova said...

What I think Jon needs to do, is to consult a good divorce lawyer, preferably one familiar with the laws of his own state and with knowledge of/or connections to an equally good lawyer who deals with entertainment law.

There is already enough footage shown on TV about Kate's behavior toward him and the children to make a good case for full custody. Add to that the testimony that could be given by family members, friends, and acquaintances about Kate's behavior, plus the travel schedule for her 'book tour', and it should be obvious who is willing to stay home with the kids and who is...not so much.

If Jon won't step forward, someone else needs to: the state, other family members, 'A Minor Consideration', Gloria what’s-her-name, anyone. It sure won't be 'Dr.' Phil, Oprah, or Rachael Ray.

Nova

wicked witch lives in wernersville said...

lindahoyt--A Babies r us is in the same strip mall as party city

I wonder if i drove past the Konpound if someone would autograph my copy of People so I could sell it on ebay!!

Seriously thinking about not reviewing my subscription.

How dare Kate invade my new favorite show Ace of Cakes.

The only time there is a crowd at this party city is at Halloween. Kate doesn't need to go then.She already has her costume..Wicked witch of wernersville with a rooster haircut-maybe they will sell the Kate wig this halloween.

Grammajude said...

I have not watched the show since I discovered this site. Kate's behavior toward Jon and the children bothered me so that once I found GWOP, I took the show off my TiVo and haven't looked back once.

The folks on here who do the recaps do a marvelous (read honest) job and that's as close as I intend or need to get.

Having said this, I thought I had read somewhere (here, maybe?) that bodyguard Steve either founded or co-owned the agency he works for. If that is so, he may be free to do as he pleases.

Kate, IMHO, has a personality disorder that, even with therapy, has a slim to none chance of getting better. I don't think she has any insight to the damage she has caused to her marriage and, above all, to those wonderful, precious children. She sees herself as perfect, great - you add the other superlative adjectives. It makes me sick to think about them.

SuzyQ said...

I know this has been stated - but I just need to reiterate: it is so obvious that Kate views her children as commondities because of the way that she forces them all to wear matching outfits!

We all know that they are twins and sextuplets - they don't need to dress alike to prove it.

I don't see the Hayes making their twins, twins and sextuplets dress alike - but then again, they are more of a "real reality" right Kate?!

Ms.Peach said...

Yes, yes there is no doubt the photos released to JustJared are from TLC's own photographer. So staged. They must think the public are idiots (except for sheeple). And dressing those kids alike is cruel---they are way too old!!!

The photographer is so dumb---can't tell the right hand from the left! The point was to show, I'm sure, that she had the wedding ring on. I hate TLC!

LLB said...

To soworriedforthekids, who said...
"Why can't Jon, as a parent to these children put a stop to the filming? Why can't he stand up for the rights of his children, regardless of any contracts."

I don't think Jon is any more tuned into the needs of those kids than Kate is. Notice that when he talks about his problems with the show, it's only about how he can't be just Jon, not Jon and Kate plus 8. He doesn't extrapolate that if he feels that way, that his kids might feel the same way. My prediction is that Mady will be the first to resent her image as Mady the brat.

Sadly, I don't think if the filming stopped the emotional abuse of the children would stop. Those parents are overwhelmed and they've fallen into an us-against-them pattern, that if they don't keep a tough stance, they'll be run over. If you add more financial pressure on to that, it might even be worse than continuing the filming where at least the children have millions of witnesses.

Our best hope is that a couple of those children will grow to be strong and articulate enough to hold up a mirror and articulate the problem. I know that my son and daughter were able to save me from myself more than once.

Wendy Bird said...

Tyra said...
Hey...maybe Jon could hire Gloria Allred to represent him in his divorce.
Not to represent him in a divorce, but to get him out of any contracts that involve exploiting his children. I believe that he is not only regretting that he can't be "just Jon" anymore, but that he is realizing the damage that is being done to his children.

Jon should be in touch with Paul Peterson and Gloria Allred. I hate that Allred is so polarizing, but she will help him get those kids off of TV, and would take on Kate and TLC without batting an eye.

stunned said...

Teri said...

I just don't get the bodyguard. all the time. Even the big celebrities don't have bodyguards everyplace they go. My god what is with her? well, we all know that answer.
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Hi Teri,

Well, narcissists ARE both paranoid* and have delusions of grandeur. That combo's got to be a boon for any security firm.

One possibility is she, in her megalomania, demanded TLC/Circle 8 provide additional security to keep those pesky fans away. And he has been spotted on the Utah plane ride & in other episodes. And she's got him trained--she doesn't want to waste time breaking in anyone new (or should I say breaking someone else's spirit...ok, that was harsh).

She probably played the helpless victim to TLC (& Steve), whining that here she is--fragile, newly single mom of 8 with deadbeat-cheater husband, all alone, lies, lies, lies, etc.

Of course, that's just one possibility.

*Just a personal aside that might provide a glimpse into K8's mindset. The narcissist I knew was so paranoid that, when leaving on a trip, she would insist that every inch of her condo's carpet be vacuumed. The vacuuming had to be done in a pattern different than the one used the last time she left (of course, someone else was asked to do the actual vacuuming). In this way, any intruder's footprints would be visible. And should said intruder want to cover their tracks, they would be challenged to vacuum in the same pattern. I guess she had to keep track of the patterns.

BOYCOTT TLC!

Suki said...

Re: The Just Jared photos - the children looking VERY unhappy and some are even looking right at the camera as if they are perplexed.

These photos are quite disturbing.

I'm sure that the Kate camp would try to spin it and say that the paps took a bunch of photos, but of course, only showed the most "negative" ones. But I call BS on all that already! Children going to Party City getting pinatas and balloons and whatever else should be smiling, happy and jumping around excited. Not sad and confused.

Also, I don't know why - but the photos that show the boom/mic - that seemed to put the show more into perspective for me. Can you imagine growing up as a child having all that equipment all up in your face constantly!?!?!?! And no Kate, it's no OK that they've grown up that way and that is "their normal"!!!

Elaine said...

Elaine said...
This my first time commenting on here.I have a daughter alot like Kate. I am raising her two children for twelve years now. I have witnessed the tears and questions why their mother does not love them. When Jon and Kate's children get to be teenagers their eyes will be opened to the truth and there will be alot of anger and rage. People here seem to think that Kate will be sorry but I disagree. There is no bond there. you cannot feel something that is not in your heart to begin with. That is why this is so sad.

anotherPAmom said...

Let the damage control begin. . . . .

First, posed pictures at Party City-NOW-
New ad in today's Harrisburg paper- in the NEWS section no less

-"KATE GIVES BACK- TO THE HERSHEY RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE!
Saturday May 23, 2009, Milton Hershey Middle School
Join Kate Gosselin, former Ronald McDonald House guest, as she shares stories and does a book signing, all in support of the Hershey Ronald McDonald House's Room to Grow Capital Campaign.
$45, $35, and $25 tickets are available" with big photo of Kate alone in the ad.

At least the damage control is helping a good cause. . .
By the way, daughter was getting her hair done yesterday for prom- she and young stylist had a good laugh over the People magazine web page- "Kate- Everybody wants my hair!" This is an extremely busy salon- all stylists said- Nobody wants that hair!

Ms.Peach said...

I am tired of the argument that if Jodi and Kevin were paid it makes their disclosures less valid and they should have not gone to a rag magazine.

First, why would you not get paid? Does anything think these people would risk their privacy and reputation to take money and lie?

Second, going to Star broke the story. Circulation is huge, no PR hype like the People mag, and after the National Enquirer broke the Sen. Edwards scandal, seems that the rags are doing much of the mainstream media's job. I bet Good Housekeeping and the like wouldn't touch Jodi and Kevin's story. They are too busy being PR whores.

arwen said...

My brother has worked in the production field for lifetime,disney and a few reality shows but not JK+8.They have contracts and can be sued for up to 1 million dollars so I highly doubt anyone from the film crew will say a peep.I was wondering about the production people and the many not-a-nannies who have first hand information about the actions and relationships of the Gosselins. I am sure that they had to sign some sort of nondisclosure agreement. But what about if there is a divorce and Jon and Kate are in a court proceeding regarding the divorce or the custody of the children. Does the signing of an agreement prohibit the people from testifying in a courtroom as to what they know and saw?

In other words, can a signed agreement for a situation like this hold up in court or must they be able to tell the actual truth no matter what they had previously signed.

BMWoP said...

Nicole said...
I went to a book signing of Tori Spelling and she didn't have a bodyguard. I think Tori is way more famous than Kate. Tori was very friendly and smiled alot.

5/16/2009 8:11 PM


Me, too, Nicole.

I was at the Atlantis in the Bahamas, and Muhammed Ali was there, walking around and greeting his fans, and all he had was a hotel guy walking with him and showing him around. He needed no team of security and was very very pleasant and friendly.

I met Andrew Firestone at a Women's Show....no bodyguards, no charging for photos, and as crowded as it was, he spent time and chatted with everyone who wanted his autograph.

Met Rob Lowe back in 87 while he was in my town filming a movie. He would wander all over the place with no bodyguard.

Last weekend, the band 3 Doors Down was in my town for a concert. The next day they went out on a friend of mines chartered fishing boat. No bodyguards.

A few years ago, Tom Selleck was visiting my town and was sitting on bench in the middle of an outdoor shopping area. Minding his own business. No bodyguard. people just said hello, stared, pointed and a couple people approached him to shake his hand.

Miley Cyrus rides her bike all over town in Franklin, Tennessee. Even though she always has a friend with her, it's certainly no paid bodyguard.

Sooooooo......I think Kate feels she needs all this security because she receives alot of death threats. Yet she still doesn't let that detere her from putting her kids out there.

techymum said...

I really don't like any paps out there taking pics of the kids.

downtheoroad said...

"More importantly, Who would FILM on Mother's Day? The crew wasn't filming so the party didn't happen until it was caught on camera."


I think they would film when ever they were told to film. That's their job. I know my kid wouldn't be going to a kid's birthday party on Mother's day. I wager many other parents would feel the same way!

pretty is as pretty does said...

Kate: " after all the media attention my friends were forced to shun me. Mr. Gray was my protector in my time of need. He was able to understand the extreme pressure I was under the constant glare of the spotlight.He saw me cry, cry for all I had lost being the sole bread winner to my family. I had all the world on my shoulders, my children my fans.I had to be on the road for them. Naturally we grew fond of each other friends only of course. His marriage had been over for years so yes, yes two lonely people fell in love. I blame the media and Jon, I must be happy, I will be happy, I control my happiness" Kate to People after the divorce

Donna R. said...

So, just a quick question? Where on earth do J & K hide all these shiny new vehicles that they "don't own"? So far we have seen a black Nissan Sedan, a new white Nissan Nismo 370z, and now Kate is getting in/out of a brand new silver BMW sedan? How do they seriously think that they can fool the public with the "it's all for the kids" mantra anymore? I mean in the end, you can't fit a family of 10 in any one of those vehicles.

msrylee said...

It absolutely is heart-breaking to see the "happy" Gosselin children at Party City. The only one smiling is their "mother".

Jon and Kate have made a mockery of marriage and TLC is perpetuating it.

momof5 said...

Mady looks lost. Those poor kids.

I bought my daughter a pair of capris yesterday that are the same pattern as the girl tups dresses. I may take them back.

Jacsamic said...

So, I looked a the http://justjared.buzznet.com/photos

Heartbreaking. Not one happy child there. Not one. But, at least Kooky Krazy Katie Irene was on performance with her smiles....

Steve Neild...hmmm...and what appears to be his fellow bodyguards...and the keyword is 'appears'....as much as I, and the rest of us do come up with a myriad of scenarios regarding the bodyguard issue - the fact is we do not know the reason for the security companys choice to let this man - and now others- stay not only with her, but on camera......my first thought is with all the venom out there right now, whether legitimate or not, focused toward Kate there could very well be activity going on that is simply not public. Serious enough to validate the security. If this is even partly factual, then whew, the children are being protected when they are with the high risk parent.

Or the other hand, the safer scenario where the children are concerned is if he and Kate are a couple. That makes him just as stupid as she is. He can likely end up loosing his job, his family, his life as he knew it before Kooky Katie Irene. Well, too bad.

I just want to see the children safe. Period.

I have also read all the postings (whoa..there's a lot!) and the consistent trend, amongst all the speculation, point of views and incredulity at these ongoing scenarios is simple: we care about well being, welfare and safety of these precious children thrust into the national spotlight for all to see. Good for us, good that GWOP is here for us to have a platform to have a voice (yea Mods) and good to feel a comradeship with so many responsible, intelligent, caring, loving people. Who do not give up.

Good for the children, not so good for Kooky Krazy Katie Irene.

Wendy said...

Let's say Jon is slowly worked out of their show. Do you think it would be as popular? The dynamics between Jon and Kate was part of the shows appeal. IMO I think this story is going to end on it's own steam. Kate however will try to go on solo and I can only hope that she fails.

Just Be Nice Kate said...

I find it highly interesting that on the main TLC page, there is no link whatsoever to their discussion forums. I searched the main page (using my browsers "find" tool) for the terms forum, forums, discuss, discussion, discussions, talk, chat, conversation, fans, and so on...and nadda. There was a time that you could easily find it on the main page.

Of course, once you do finally find the forums (via Google search), there is no Jon and Kate forum. To my knowledge, there hasn't been one in a very long time if there ever was one to begin with. Now, Jon and Kate conversations take place within the Family forum under the Multiples subforum, but of course, since no one really knows where the forums are, there is very little traffic there...

But here's the link if anyone wants to chime in:

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/2391917298

Perhaps a thread entitled "Should the Plug be Pulled on Jon and Kate?" to get a good *real* discussion going... It would be interesting to see if it would promptly be removed by moderators.

mrst said...

The picture that shows Kate with a "smile" is the one of her a lone. She does not have the same facial expression when she is walking with the kids.

Jo Ann said...

Evidentially, it's not just Kate dressing the kids alike. The photos of Jon and the kids shows the kids dressed alike as well.

One of the sites said a DJ caught Kate and Steve holding hands. Too bad he didn't take a photo of it. Either way, it's wrong - both Jon and Kate are guilty (presumably) and don't seem to care about how the kids might be taking it.

That photo of Mady in the back of the van looking right at the camera - wow. That speaks loud and clear. She HATES that camera and seems to be very resentful of her mother. Poor kid. I used to think she was a brat, but I no longer do. Of all of the kids, she has been the most outspoken about the direction their lives had taken. No wonder her camera time has been so limited recently. (Cara's too!)

cassandrau said...

Uhmmmmmmmmm is it just me or does Mady look like a miniature Kate in this pic?

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=05&evt=gosselin-party&pic=kate-gosselin-party-city-01.jpg

4girlsoneboy said...

Nomes said...

"Yet not one single smile in any of those shots, and I bet not many more in the actual footage we'll see. So sad, and very telling!!!"


I guess they are probably remembering last year's party - the no-cupcake-for-you party.

NancyM said...

First, I think the kids look so sad because their parent's marriage is falling apart and that makes for a very painful environment. I don't think it's because of the cameras filming their day to day lives. (even though I don't agree with the decision to film them) IMO Jodi and Kevin speaking out publicly only contributed to the kid's misery regardless of the truthfulness of their statements. My sister went through a divorce and she and my bro-in-law behaved badly. I cannot imagine any circumstance where my speaking out about it would have helped my nieces (they were not in any danger)
Second, I wish they would fix their marriage, I have no interest in any tell all books (except that I am curious - but I do think it would be wrong), I don't want them to lose their house or have money problems. I hope they have enough to live comfortably and hope they do it together (off camera preferably)
Last, I think all this speculation about their every thought and movement is detrimental to the kids. We don't "know" that Kate doesn't like her kids, or that she's having an affair, or what Jon thinks about anything. We don't actually KNOW THEM!

BigLil said...

We all know that encouraging people to boycott the show is not going to work. The American public is, sadly, too shallow and stupid to follow that advice. Someone needs to write a list of what to watch FOR in the show. For example:

--8 abnormally miserable children (crying, screaming, hitting);

--Kate's horrible treatment of and comments to the boys;

--arm pinches and yanks; and so on.

Maybe then the tide will turn and people will realize just how damaging this show is for the children.

ISpyKateInThePaper said...

Not sure if this has been posted or not, but in the Sunday edition of the Patriot News (Harrisburg, PA's paper) there is a little ad with Kate's picture stating, "Kate Gosselin Gives Back" - apparently, she is going back to the Ronald McDonald house on May 23rd and you can buy tickets for $45, $35, and $25 to hear her speak about her family. Nothing was mentioned in the ad about how any or all of the proceeds go to the Ronald McDonald charities. What a joke!

Jana said...

ellasmum said...

Those poor kids. It reminds me of the Trueman Show!!!. When this ends and it will, watch for Khate on Dancing with the stars!!!

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Aw hell to the naw!!! she better not show her ugly mug on that show -- that's one of my favs! Considering I've removed any TLC show from my watch list, I don't want her invading other areas of my tv viewing - lol!

But the show where the drop "celebs" into an Amazonian jungle - I'm good with that! She can go on that show and the sooner the better.

Denise said...

I recently started reading this blog. I watch J&K 8 sporadically, and I have always disliked Kate for the way she treats Jon and the kids. I don't know if this has ever been mentioned, I'm sure it has, I noticed all of the kids never cry for their Mommy. They always want Daddy or to go with him somewhere. I have seen some of the little kids tell Jon they love him, I have never seen that with Kate. It's all very sad. While there is no excuse for anyone to cheat, and I am not a Dr., nor do I personally know this family, I can see how Kate could push Jon into doing what he did. Whatever the circumstances were that drove Jon to another woman, I would bet this was part of Kate's agenda. I believe she wanted to set the wheels in motion for Jon's downward spiral. She is not a stupid woman, just a mean one. Whether Kate and Jon had a "contract" or not, Kate is going to make sure she is the one who comes out smelling like roses. All of this is only my opinion and not based on anything other than what I have seen on TV or the internet.

Wendy Bird said...

themediaguy said...

...Second, all this publicity is a gold mine for TLC/Discovery. Everyday J&K+8 stays in the news, the executives are tickled pink. All publicity is good/great publicity. Remember, the network went into this knowing the show had a finite shelf life. It has lasted longer than initial expectations. Add in the tremendous and rising ratings over the past 18 months and you can only imagine the profitability of this "content" for a cable network. IMHO, it has put TLC on the map and helped them generate a whole slew of original content (look at all the other similar shows that have come on the network) generating revenues/profits for the network.

The ratings for the next season will no doubt be tremendous. The ad revenues should be mind blowing. And the show will likely continue on for at least another season after this next one...
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Yes, all of the media hype will bring huge ratings numbers, but the new viewers are not going into it rooting for Kate or Jon. I doubt that Kate will gain more than a few new followers that think she is super mom. Those types of followers already know about the show, because they are in a specific demographic that would find a show like Jon and Kate Pus 8 long before now.

The new viewers are watching for the train wreck value. They haven't followed the children since they were babies or toddlers. They don't have any kind of emotional investment in the outcome. They will immediately pick up on how staged the show is, how unhappy the children are, and how Kate expects everyone else to do everything for her. They will see how fake her on camera parenting is, even when she is pretending to act like a mother. If they are forced to watch Mady melt down, they will realize that much of her problem is that she is having her personal life filmed for reality TV and have sympathy for her.

Kate will still be living in oblivion, believing that because the ratings are so high, and that she is a New York Times best selling author, the "haters" don't matter.

The new viewers will not become fans. Even if they don't pick up on how fake the family situation is, they will notice the tie in of the Smithsonian episodes to the new movie coming out. It is insulting to the viewers to have them portrayed as a real family doing real things.

If Zondervan is unable to schedule enough book signings when her crook book comes out this fall, or her PR people are unable to book her on GMA or in Good Housekeeping any longer, Kate is going to have a huge wake up call. I highly doubt that the church tour she has relied on to keep her on the road will continue either.

I have not mentioned Jon, because I am holding out hope that he has decided not to participate any longer and will fight to keep his children off of television.

Bells said...

The Just Jared photos speak volumes that have already been hashed out and discussed on this board. But a further two cents on just HOW intrusive the camera crew is. Seeing behind the scenes shows when it would show like FIVE crew members right there in the kitchen at the old house. Mixed in when they go out and these guys on their tails ALL THE TIME, thrown in when they get a few feet away, here's a giant BOOM MIKE a foot above you. Remember in Hawaii when Joel was walking around with a piece of grass acting like it was his own boom mike and going up to people. Everyone thought it was so "cute" and my heart just went out to the poor guy. That's not NORMAL or healthy for him as he growing up when the cameras are gone and these kids actually will be alone and having to deal with long-term privacy for the first time in their lives. Yeah kate your kids are used to this crap because you won't let them live without it!!! I'm sure Cara/Mady have some memories before the crew came into their lives and each day those memories fade quicker.

Steve-o bodyguard accompanying kate and the kids, utter disgust when I thought I had reached my peak with this excuse of a woman, "mother". Strictly from his companies standpoint, are they f'insane?? This hardly looks good for their company and I know if I was looking to hire out security, some rumored affair, purse-holder wouldn't be on the top of my list. I refuse to belive these two are just "friends" at this point. If that was the case he would have got the hell out of dodge and worked for someone else and could still be "friends" with kate in other ways.

I certaintly don't condone jon but in the grand scheme of things, at least he keeps his skank out of his kids lives hopefully. Kate carries on with the one of her children's many "people" in their lives. Vile, vile, vile. Remember that part about God dishing out punishments katie?? You ain't seen nothing yet.

BOYCOTT TLC!!! said...

Kate on the cover, again!!

Upcoming US Weekly, "Kate and the Body Guard" *insert rolling eyes*

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272626054.shtml

Ava's Mommy said...

Oh gezz another Fake Party. How many Fake everything does Kate and the Family need. Come on.. We all know that she didn't spend time with them when she was home. Mothers day and their birthday she was busy doing Kate things. Duh how stupid does she think we are? The Paps and everyone around them is helping everyone realize this is a Fake Reality Show.

Ah Steve poor Steve.. If my husband was in his predicament and he was a bodyguard for some star. Controversy started between them having a relationship on the road and there was no so called relationship. He would do the right thing and ask to be reassigned to someone different. Maybe steve cant do this because of contract. But this just doesn't look good. Oh his behalf and Kate's. If she wants people to stop talking about this then get another bodyguard for herself. On the other hand Kate probably doesnt care it keeps her in the limelight and into more tabloid/blogs. She has to do this so they can get more viewers this time around for season 5.

I feel really bad looking at the party city pics. Mady looks so misplaced and sad/ annoyed and Cara looks about the same. Even all the tups look tired and sad. I do agree with a earlier poster saying the Cara/Mady shouldn't wear the same things all the time. They are to old for that. Maybe for Kate sake it makes her feel that they are still babies.

Sarah said...

I actually got teary looking at those pictures from Party City. Ugh, it makes me so mad when parents bring children (in this case, many children)into the world, and then do not care for their needs physically and emotionally. She pushes them away, snaps at them, ignores them, berates them over drawer knobs and stupid crap, she says mean things about them, she's not consistent (cupcake gate), she is abusive towards her husband, and she leaves her children for weeks at a time...

The sad thing is, even those of us that grew up in bad situations, grew up in them rather privately. Not only that, but I know I feel like I've had the benefit of "forgetting" a lot of stuff that went on, which I think has been a huge blessing. But for the Gosselin kids, they don't even get that. The episodes are filled with all that garbage, and are a click away on the Internet... and other people are getting their entertainment from it. Heart-breaking!

I don't understand people on the pro-Gosselin sites. They've been saying that it's none of our business what goes on in their home, and they defend Kate like crazy. I want to know what they would say if in ten years, they had to answer the question from the Kids "why did you think it was fun to watch my mom mistreat us?".

The truth is, they keep saying that the ones that don't support the show are just jealous. However, I'm starting to think it's the other way around. These women wish they could be just like Kate. The money, the fame, the clothes, and people doting all over them. The beautiful house, and the TV shows. Other then the outside crap, Kate is not at all appealing. Although I prefer a simple life, so even the outside doesn't look good to me.

Why Kate Gosselin? Because she proved that if you have a uterus the size of the Grand Canyon, you can be famous too? Please people, find someone to really look up to. Mother Teresa, Elizabeth Elliott, someone that has done great things. Not someone that had a bunch of kids all at once, and then turned into a flying monkey!

Chris said...

lindahoyt said...
Listen, there are a lot of crazy people out there who would love to kidnap the kids; and/or kill them. There are sexual sickos who fixate on those little ones. There is a very good reason to have body guards. I do not fault the family for having them. But, when the body guard is looking at Kate--holding her purse, or directing the children; and when he is so well known, it compromises his ability to effectively protect the family.

His presence there is very unprofessional, and frankly it is also dangerous. There are other wackos who will target HIM, for breaking up the family they feel they know and love.

Security needs to be unseen and unknown.
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Very true. We all need to remember that both John Lennon and Selina were killed by fans.

momof5 said...

Kate should donate all proceeds from her book sales on the 23rd to RM charities & all ticket sales. Sadly she won't. There is a special place awaiting people like her.

Just Be Nice Kate said...

My letter to the ABC news editors...
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Regarding the show Jon and Kate and the effect it is having on the children:

Please, please air this photo taken this weekend of the an outing of the Gosselin children to Party City. This photo says it all...
http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2009&mon=05&evt=gosselin-party&pic=kate-gosselin-party-city-02.jpg

These children are trapped in a fishbowl and have no say about their lives being filmed for profit. Kate herself said in her most recent People magazine article that "We don't have a backup plan anymore. We're caught because this is our job.....This needs to go on because I need to be able to provide for my kids." Or does it need to go on so that Kate can continue to live the diva lifestyle she's grown accustomed to because of the show?

Please continue to cover this story and help viewers see the show "Jon and Kate Plus 8" for what it really is... child exploitation and a money making venture for Kate and TLC. These children deserve to have someone on their side for a change.

Thank you for your consideration,

(name)
_____________________________

Under their recent article about the Gosselins, there is a link to contact editors about the story if you have extra information that they may want to know about. Here is the link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3072379

Michelle in Michigan said...

I agree with the poster who said the pictures at Party City were taken by TLC. We all know she is pissed at the paps and therefore if any photographer had approached to take even one phote, she would send her bodyguard after them to confiscate the camera.

Does she really think people are that stupid? She is so transparent.

SJ and ME + 3 said...

Where can I find the pics of Jon and the kids on Mothers Day?
Jon and one of the little girls picking flowers...I think?

Michelle in Michigan said...

Forgot one thing...

as for dressing everyone alike...remember she is getting the clothes for the kids for free. It was probably in the contract early on that she gets 2 sets of this for the twins, and 3 sets of boys and 3 sets of little girl clothes.

If the merchant had half a brain and wanted to advertise, they would give her different clothes for all of them. Lucky for us, no one involved in this train wreck thinks clearly.

Chris said...

If Zondervan is unable to schedule enough book signings when her crook book comes out this fall,
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ROFLPIMP I don't know if this is a typo but it is soooo true. A crook book. I love it.

beachluvin said...

techymum said...
I really don't like any paps out there taking pics of the kids.

5/17/2009 7:48 AM
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But it's ok for the TLC cameras to follow their every move?

Very simple solution:
No TLC=No Paps...

There was absolutely no need to take all the kids shopping except for to film the show. Notice how all the kids are in matching outfits. So disgusting! They are in the midst of a family breakdown and what does Kate do? She drags them out shopping with cameras in tow.
Where are the authorites?

beachluvin said...

Sorry for the double post...

Anyone hear how the Tea or the Moms Night Out was attended?

just wondering said...

I believe Nova is on to something and I'm hoping that Jon,Julie, Jodi, Kevin or others will read what was posted and take action. They are the only ones who can.

Here it is again:


Nova said...
Damn it, people! At this point it doesn't matter about Kate's hair or Jon's car anymore! What matters is that there are eight children constantly showing up on TV and looking miserable! We already know that the kids are the only reason the adults are on TV, and that the children's parents have no visible means of support except for putting the kids on TV. We have adults making money, living the high life, and the kids are miserable!

It's time for the courts to get involved. First, forensic accounts need to be brought in to ascertain when, how, and why the adults are getting so much money and material goods. Then there needs to be an accounting on when and how the money was spent, how much for the personal gain of the adults, and how much was spent on the kids. At this point I’d also like to see how much TLC, the book publisher, and the bodyguard company are making off the 'show' (which is only possible if the children are on it). It should also come to light how much, if any, money was being set aside for the kids future.

Then, the courts should order a suspension of all public appearances and filming of the kids until mental evaluations have been made of every member of this so-called family.

I strongly suspect that the accountants will find that the kids are being used for the sole purpose of providing the adults and the aforementioned companies profit. I also think that it will be found that little or no monies have been put aside for the future maintenance and education of the children.

I think that the people evaluating the children will find that they are anxious, depressed, and have not been allowed a pleasant and fulfilling childhood, but instead they have been exposed to many situations that should only be experienced by mature and consenting adults. (I'm not talking sexual experiences here, I'm referring to the difference between real and fake, long shooting hours, and the understanding that the film crew are only there for you while your 'show' is a hit.)

Lastly, I believe that it will be found that Kate and Jon will be found incompetent to continue to parent their children without appropriate oversight from both financial and mental health professionals. I do suspect that Jon will be the better candidate to work to overcome his issues and become a better parent. I also strongly suspect that Kate will be found to have a personality disorder such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, that to this day remains unable to be successfully treated.

It's time for someone with authority and resolve to step in and make it all about the safety, the physical, and mental health about the children.

Nova

Just Be Nice Kate said...

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VA Lawyer said...

Contracts ARE broken every single day. There can be penalties for doing so, but there can also be some indisputable reasons why a contract can not be fulfilled. I think in this case, Kon v. TLC, there is even film on why the show should and must be pulled immediately.

I personally will not watch TLC or anything on Discovery until this show is off the air. No great loss if you ask me. I also will not watch any program that has Kon on as a guest.

We know what we see in the children's faces. Most of us have children and we would be in panic mode if we saw our kids so downhearted and sad. No amount of money or fame is worth what is being bought and sold here.

Renee said...

The hardest thing I think we all need to come to grips with, is we are fueling Kates little ego fire, even if a boycott were done, all press (good or bad) is good press. We are making this monster bigger than what she is! Maybe people NOT being there to take a shot of her with her spikes will start to make this camera hog check herself. All in all I do wish Kate would come and check out some of these boards and see what people really do honestly think of what she's doing to her family. If I could give Kate a message I would tell her that I think she's jealous of her children and the attention theyve gotten, I believe she loves them, but people love there stocks too when the markets good. Shes going to lose everything, and then when this does all die down, Jon and Kate will probably be alone....without each other, and without there kids, because shes not giving them advantages by doing this, shes taking it away....its sad to see earlier episodes and the laughs and smiles, you could see love, now all you see is dollar signs, at least in her eyes. I honestly think Jon is trying to say look over here Kate, look at me and see what I'm doing, this is what will happen if it doesnt end, and she continues to go....its not for the kids, theres an underlying issue there. One more point, I think its funny that a show that was started to benefit the children and there future has helped to keep Kate groomed, tan and manicured. What happened to the days Jon would have to drag her out to get something that was stylish for her??? The old Kate was a nag, yes...but as a wife, I am not always a great friend to my husband and we only have 5 kids, all different ages.

goawayJandK said...

I am tired of the argument that if Jodi and Kevin were paid it makes their disclosures less valid and they should have not gone to a rag magazine.

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I agree. I don't care if Jodi and Kevin got paid, I don't even care if Dede's bro got paid. As long as the statements are true, more power to them for taking the step to OUT these losers.

I am still rooting for Jon to reevaluate everything and make some changes in his life so he can enjoy a long, happy one with his children.

K8 on the other hand, can bite my a$$.

Narcissism Please said...

WHAT ON GOD'S GREEN, GREEN [not orange] EARTH IS TLC TRYING TO PULL WITH THE "...first time facing each other..." -CRAP?

phew, sorry for the caps, but seriously?

what the eff demographic are they pushing for, with that?
us..as in the GWoP-crowd?
because we already KNOW/KNEW that the [previously taped] premiere episode was the first time jon and kate had been within a stones-throw of each other in months?
i.don't.get.it.

what in HELL do the sheeple/zombie-hacks have to say about that?
when TLC, ITSELF blatantly and out-right lets the cat out of the spilled bag of beans ... ?

COME ON!

ratherbkayaking said...

Well, all this press is doing exactly what it was supposed to. Multiple Blessings and 8 Little Faces are both back on the NYT best sellers list. (MB - 23rd on Hard Cover Non-Fiction and 8LF is 11th on Hardcover Advice). I'm sure that people are just trying to find out who these people are that are appearing on all the covers and entertainment news shows. I'm sure that the season's premier will also bring in huge numbers. I feel SOOOO bad for the kids. The notoriety of their parents and their extramarital affairs are exposing their little lives to masses of people who don't care about them in the least.

stunned said...

RealMom said...
“These pictures are so staged, as were last weekend's paper towel outing...”
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RealMom, very good point. If they were real paps, then who tipped them? Circle 8? Steve?

Can you say backfire much, Kate?

GRY said...

I decided to pay a visit across the fence to she how the Sheeple are reacting. It looks like the sands are shifting there as well, the diehards are desperately attempting to put up a rearguard defense of her actions. Their reasoning is completely flawed and sounds hollow and without much basis. As the visual evidence mounts these sheeple are becoming nastier in defense of their "goddess/supermom".
Constantly repeating incoherent responses such as "you're all just jealous of her!" over and over again in her defense.
I cannot understand the willful blindness of these people to see what is happening here.

I'm waiting for the Jerry Springer crowd to roll in as the long time fans disappear.
The season opener is being sold like a WWE grudge match or a Ultimate Fighter showdown match.
TLC sees $$$ all the way to the bank and until Jon takes legal action to stop this I can't see that season 5 won't go ahead.

My question is: What will there be to film now that the atmosphere is thoroughly poisoned.
Filming a "pretend" trip to Korea to visit Jon's roots would be more than a bit tacky to say the least.
Maybe they will "appear" to patch things up at home while doubling security to make sure no more secrets get out. If they do that then I can see them promoting the "we are all a happy family again" of course the little lie detector named Mady will have the be coached or left off camera.

I'm not watching the season opener but I'm assuming we will all hear about it sooner rather then later. I'm curious as to how to obtain the Nielsen numbers and possibly the ad rates for that episode to see if TLC is indeed making big $$$ from it.

Sarah said...

lindahoyt said...
Listen, there are a lot of crazy people out there who would love to kidnap the kids; and/or kill them. There are sexual sickos who fixate on those little ones. There is a very good reason to have body guards. I do not fault the family for having them. But, when the body guard is looking at Kate--holding her purse, or directing the children; and when he is so well known, it compromises his ability to effectively protect the family.

His presence there is very unprofessional, and frankly it is also dangerous. There are other wackos who will target HIM, for breaking up the family they feel they know and love.

Security needs to be unseen and unknown.
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You're totally right.However, I fault Jon and Kate for this one too. They put their children in danger for $$. Now it's the media's fault, or the pap's fault, or GWOP fault. Notice that neither of them have ever taken personal responsibility for anything? Having a million kids, not having a relationship with their families, Kate freaking out on Jon (remember the episode of embarrassing moments?) having an affair? NOTHING! It's always poor them.

You know, there are people with children that are DYING, or with such severe handicaps that their parents have to do everything, and in the end not even get to see their child grow up. Get over it Jon and Kate, you're annoying hags!

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