Free Discussion 4/25 - 5/1

Please use this post for discussion about the Gosselins that doesn't have a better spot elsewhere. This is where all those I don't know where to post it comments go also. Thank you.

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Anonymous said...

I enjoy Table for Twelve, but I do realize that the entire show is set up to be the anthesis of the Kons. Some things off the top of my head:
Kids are allowed to get dirty have messy art projects and don't wear bibs.
The GRANDMA is shown helping out with the little girl with CP and the Mom states how much help that her Mom is to her. <3
The Dad has a job, a good paying job as a cop.
The kids don't wear matching outfits.
They are shown decorating the Christmas tree and if I am not mistaken, lots of decorations and SANTA in the house.
Seriously, could you imagine that Mom going tanning or the Dad getting hairplugs? They love each other as they are.

Debbie said...

I was raised by a mom just like Kate. The damage was done early. We got the clearcut message that Mom was exhausted and bored by us. We had to take naps and go to bed early because she’d put in her Mom time and was off the clock by 6 pm. My parents had babysitters on retainer and went out each and every weekend, even if we were deathly ill.

As the only girl, I was treated much better by her than my disgusting little brothers. After school she’d scoop me up and we’d head out to visit her friends. My brothers always came home to an empty house, even though she was a stay-at-home housewife.

Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t all bad. She did many kind and thoughtful things for us over the years. But basically we got the message that she left us behind to go elsewhere for relaxation and fun. When we got to be old enough to be interesting to her and she’d seek out our companionship, we just didn’t know what to make of it and we didn’t trust it. Relations were always strained.

As for being the favored girl, that all changed when we grew up. Being male oriented, she turned to my brothers for advice and support and shut me out of any important decisions or matters.

Bicoastal said...

Linda wrote: "Check out THIS WEBPAGE And tell me what last name Kate has written there???!"

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Do not care what Kate signed, but love the fangurl! She's right out of central casting for a Reality TV fan.

Kate must love chatting with her "base" at these book signings "Uh, so, what do you use on your acne?"

Bella said...

Her autograph in that book looks like it's her maiden name of Krieder. But I wouldn't put it past hate for a minute to sign some of those books with her maiden name just to stir the pot and keep "fans" tuned in. This women's moral and ethical code has no bottom.

My5blessings said...

Pink wrote"
I enjoy Table for Twelve, but I do realize that the entire show is set up to be the anthesis of the Kons. Some things off the top of my head:
Kids are allowed to get dirty have messy art projects and don't wear bibs.
The GRANDMA is shown helping out with the little girl with CP and the Mom states how much help that her Mom is to her. <3
The Dad has a job, a good paying job as a cop.
The kids don't wear matching outfits.
They are shown decorating the Christmas tree and if I am not mistaken, lots of decorations and SANTA in the house.
Seriously, could you imagine that Mom going tanning or the Dad getting hairplugs? They love each other as they are.
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I enjoyed reading this post as they do sound exactly opposite of the Gosselins.
I caught a very and I do mean very short glimpse of this family.
I have to say, however isn't it the same thing?
These kids still have cameras in their home. Aren't the children still being exploited only in a kinder way?
To me, it's just the same with a different family.

Sorry....... just how I see it.

KiSSy said...

There are music videos????

Good gravy.

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-music-videos/index.html

...Amy... said...

Bella said...
Her autograph in that book looks like it's her maiden name of Krieder. But I wouldn't put it past hate for a minute to sign some of those books with her maiden name just to stir the pot and keep "fans" tuned in. This women's moral and ethical code has no bottom.
I'm not sure she wrote her maiden name, as the "k" in Kate is very noticeable, w/ it's big "loop" in the "k"...but who knows, it just looked like she scribbled a name.

Lisbeth said...

I have to say---I agree with the poster (my 5 blessings) who mentioned that the Table for 12 is the same. It is to me as well. While I have only seen snippets of when they went to the dentist, I was horrified. A couple of the kids were scared--and to have personal moments such as this broadcast on national TV? Exploitation. The parents and kids may behave differently, but it is still recording and broadcasting children's daily lives for strangers to watch for entertainment.

IMO---No one is speaking up to protect Mady, Cara and the tups....and the explotive nature of "family reality" shows continue with Supernanny, Table for 12, 18 and counting etc.

My5blessings said...

Lisbeth wrote:
I have to say---I agree with the poster (my 5 blessings) who mentioned that the Table for 12 is the same. It is to me as well. While I have only seen snippets of when they went to the dentist, I was horrified. A couple of the kids were scared--and to have personal moments such as this broadcast on national TV? Exploitation. The parents and kids may behave differently, but it is still recording and broadcasting children's daily lives for strangers to watch for entertainment.

IMO---No one is speaking up to protect Mady, Cara and the tups....and the explotive nature of "family reality" shows continue with Supernanny, Table for 12, 18 and counting etc.
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I didn't see any of that. But, yes... it's really is the same purchase simply wrapped in different colored paper.
It's more of the same.

I honestly believe it all should come to a screaching halt.

I think Kate and Jon helped me to realize ANY of these shows which have children and cameras shoved down their throats are wrong. Despite the kindness or lack thereof from the parents.

It's wrong on every level possible.

Bri said...

Here's a report of a KON signing event that was posted on another page:

Popkorn1211 said...
Went to Bellevue, WA on Saturday, April 18, 2009 to check out the scene at the Kate Gosselin signing.

My husband and I love reading this website, although we have never felt the need to post anything – you all say it so well. But we’re just shocked at what we experienced. I was so curious to see how many people would show up and, most importantly, how Kate acted at these types of events. I am still shocked.

The signing was scheduled for 7-9 PM at a Barnes and Noble in Bellevue, WA. The locations she did in WA are very suspect to me. Why would she come all the way to WA and not do Seattle? Who outside of WA has heard of Renton or Bellevue? Regardless, we pulled up to the Barnes and Noble at approximately 7:25 and pulled into a parking spot directly in front of the store. The parking lot was pretty empty, but we saw the sign outside advertising the event, so in we went. We saw that something was going on toward the back of the store and then came across a line of 40-50 people. Small groups of people were also crowded into the aisles on one side. There she was! Kate Gosselin! She was wearing head to toe white and these ridiculous high heels. I imagine her in that outfit surrounded by her eight kids.

The crowd was, as expected, primarily women, young and middle aged mothers with their families. But for me, the shocking turnout was from teenage girls. What is Kate Gosselin’s draw for teenage girls? In light of Octomom, I find this highly disturbing. People are going to start rushing to fertility clinics to get pumped full of babies so that they can have spa trips, skiing trips, Hawaiian vacations, Disney trips, all the while becoming rich and famous! Why are teenagers watching this show? Shouldn’t they be at the mall, hanging out with friends, anywhere, anything but a Kate Gosselin book signing on a Saturday night??

My husband and I decided to venture to the other side of the store after a few minutes, since that side was significantly emptier. We stood mere feet from her and watched her sign books for a few minutes. She barely looked at people, just motioning for them to approach her, signing quickly, a thanks here and there, but overall she came across as a real bitch. Her tan was blinding, her hair was like a life force all of its own, and she looked thin. The people were pretty into it, snapping pictures from the sidelines and looking really excited. All of the sudden, she smiles, says “thanks everyone,” guzzles the rest of her enormous Starbucks coffee, stands and starts walking aways. The Barnes and Noble employees started looking a little scattered and frazzled. My husband informed me that it was 7:42PM and that she was probably going on one of her fifteen minute breaks. But we looked around a couple minutes later and found that the people had cleared. There was no one left. Around the time her break should have been over, we saw some young girls ask where Kate was. An employee said that she was not coming back out. They asked what she was doing back there, but we couldn’t really hear the answer.

Now what gets me is that the time we walked into the door (7:25) to the time Kate up and left (7:42), about seventeen minutes, is definitely not enough time to sign 40-50 books. Even at her quick pace I really find it hard to believe.

People walked into the place looking for her and they were told that they could buy a signed copy they had located at the front of the store. I was in disbelief. She came and did forty-two minutes of signing? That’s a waste of time if you ask me. My husband took a picture of the sign advertising that the event lasted from 7-9 and also of Kate’s empty chair. This was at 8:15, right before we left the store.

I called Barnes and Noble from the car to get the scoop, I was dying to hear what the excuse would be from their end. After suffering through a commercial for the event on the answering machine and waiting on hold for a bit, an employee answered the phone. I told her I was on my way over there are wanted to confirm that Kate Gosselin was going to be there, as advertised, until 9:00 signing books. The woman said that she had already left. I asked why, I thought that this was supposed to be going on until 9:00 and she said, “yeah, so did we.” She proceeded to tell me that there was a line there and Kate signed all the books for the people in line and then just got up and said she had a plane to catch and she had to leave.

Are you serious? She should be so thankful to these people for buying her book and showing up on one of WA’s first weather-wise beautiful Saturday nights of spring to stand in line for her to be a bitch. The way she behaved was truly incredible for an individual making money off of what I understand to be a photo scrap book of her kids she “wrote” filled with bible verses. How fake, selfish, greedy, and opportunistic these people are.

Someone left a post on here that there were 300-400 people at this event. Nowhere close. I mean, we were late, but I have even less faith that she signed 250-350 books in the twenty-five minutes my husband and I missed.

Kate Gosselin needs to wake up and smell the Starbucks, because other people are starting to. She is rude to her fans and showing off on television with her million dollar house all the while asking hardworking people in churches for love offerings. I have an offering I would love to give Kate Gosselin, but it has nothing to do with love. She has ruined her kids lives, Jon’s life, and this will all catch up to her for sure. I have a feeling this bubble is about to burst and she’s really going to regret disrespecting all of these people who think she’s wonderful, for reasons I don’t understand.

Anonymous said...

As for Table for 12....I love these people! They are so nice, and real. He has a tremendously stressful job, as a police officer. (My husband is also one)...and because her husband is a police officer, the wife also has a great deal of stress to deal with. Not to mention they have a child with serious problems, who needs constant care. Yet they both still manages to hold their tempers...imagine. Adult who acts like adults!

But, I just have to say, I will bet you 50 dollars that this show is not picked up for renewal. Honestly, these folks are not as young and attractive as the Gosselins. The kids are red headed with freckles..(So are my kids, so don't tell me that they are not cute!) which as a rule society doesn't find as adorable as cute little Asian kids.... So, America will send these kind folks packing, and be watching Jon and Kate 10 years from now.

Anonymous said...

I watched the rerun of the first television special today. I had never seen it before.

It made me so sad! Kate was such a different person. Money and fame has really changed this young woman---in a bad way.

It was striking, the difference from Kate then, to Kate now. She actually deferred to Jon! She let him talk, and finish sentences; asked his opinion, and didn't make fun of him. AND she let him pay for the groceries!! He actually handled money!

Also, I noticed that Jon stood up to her a lot. He told her that he was going to do things his way, and her way wasn't always best! What happened to that Jon? When was the castration?!

Lisa K said...

I have to say I am not shocked at all by the way Kate acted at that book signing. She is out for herself and she doesn't care who gets their feelings hurt. They couldn't pay me enough to stand in line to see her. I think the reports we hear from the fans are exaggerated in Kate's favor. They want to believe so badly that she is a good person, they will say anything to make her look better.

MM2005 said...

Ryan's Mom said...
Can You Imagine? Being young, healthy and attractive, having 8 healthy children, a beautiful home, no financial worries, and not having to commute daily to a drudge job - and still being miserable, crabby, mean and ungrateful? Wow. I stop watching the show a long time ago, but I still watch some Discover Health shows and it is impossible to avoid the commercials for J&K. In every one, she looks dour and unhappy. Unless this show is used as training for psychiatrists, I wonder why anyone would be interested. How sad. Especially in this economy with so many struggling just to stay afloat. Turn it off, change the channel, and let her be miserable.

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Ryan's Mom, you described the Kate's behavior perfectly.

On a different topic -- I wonder if the unhappy patrons who waited to have their book signed by Kate, only to have her leave 30 minutes into a scheduled two hour signing event, are reporting her bad behavior to the publisher? I suspect they'd like to know that she is not fulfilling their agreement. And, hasn't it been mentioned that this has happened more than once?

Unknown said...

Here's my theory, because of the bad pub she's getting on these book signings, she will cancel the rest. But the reason she will give is the fear of contracting the Swine Flu and passing it onto Jon and the kids.

Reading news said...

"As for Table for 12....I love these people! They are so nice, and real. He has a tremendously stressful job, as a police officer."

I love them too. I agree with those on here who say that this show is also exploiting the kids but I just think kindness is all over the mom's face. Like Amy and Michelle she really seems to enjoy being a mother. I imagine if you were to ask the mom's friends and former co-workers you would always hear nice things about her. On here we cannot even get anyone who knew Kate in a former life to comment at all. I guess their moms taught them the old saying about if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything at all.

SoSuzMe said...

Barb-that was PRICELESS.


i don't even know if you meant it to be, but .. purely golden.



if you ask me, they contracted a rare strain of the swine flu, plenty of years ago.
i've been listening to the oinking for longer than i'd like to admit.

Techymum said...

I just have to blurt out again, I don't care if it the Gosselin children, or the Hayes children....I want there to be protection in place for ALL children who are given no choice but to be part of a reality show.....

Anonymous said...

LindaHoyt:

Your husband is a GEM! Hold onto that one you lucky woman.

There is no way in H my ex-husband would have even gone OUTSIDE to look for a precious item that belonged to our child, let alone drive 20 miles.

What a heartwarming story. Good to hear stuff like this when I seem to hear bad news all day.

Thanks for sharing!

Anonymous said...

I think Kate and Jon helped me to realize ANY of these shows which have children and cameras shoved down their throats are wrong. Despite the kindness or lack thereof from the parents.I agree. I even feel differently about child actors and kids in commericials. Kon has damaged all kids in entertainment for me. I realize that kids should NOT be entertainment for adults. My daughter watches "iCarly" and that is entertainment for KIDS but I still wonder how it is for the kids on the show. Then I wonder if the same sickos that buy "8 Exploited Faces" would also watch "iCarly?"

Georgiagurl said...

I absolutely love the Roloffs. They are the most giving family. Such a contrast.

AnnieD said...

About Table for Twelve...there are similarities, but there are MANY more differences – the show is to not their only source of income, they have not abandoned all adult responsibility/initiative to work, at the expense of their kids, even if it means violating absolutely every privacy. I have never cringed because I felt a child was being badly treated. They enjoy their kids. They respect each other. They do their own housework and laundry. They are fundamentally honest. They want security for their family, but they are not materialistic, They are not out traveling to every city in North America selling a bullshit victim story. And you can be very certain that this couple would throw the camera out onto the front lawn if any of their kids, or the family unit, was threatened. There is a level of exploitation, but we’re talking black and white comparing them to the Gosselins.

beccaangel said...

The Hayes are the nicest family. I like their parenting style. The kids are balanced and the parents just let them be kids. So cool.
The kids aren't neurotic and it makes me feel bad for those poor Gosselin Kids. It must be so hard with 10 children, but they don't complain about how exhausted they are. They need a bigger house with those kids. Besides the Mr Hayes is a Police Officer, God Bless him, he works. I hope they get to go on some awesome trips. I will help pay for it if they want to speak at my church. So what if Ragu gives them some sauce, give them whatever. I love them. They are going to need financial help with that precious angel who has cerebal palsy. Yet, they don't cry... "poor poor give us money..."

jill said...

I wonder if store bought hummus, pita chips and yogurt will be in Kate's cookbook...YUMMY! ;)

2badsosad said...

Barb said...
Here's my theory, because of the bad pub she's getting on these book signings, she will cancel the rest. But the reason she will give is the fear of contracting the Swine Flu and passing it onto Jon and the kids.

Thus, forcing Kate to actually be home, more often then not, and present for and participate in the lives of her eight ( 6 who are under the age of 5) children. The children she claimed to never 'wanting to miss a week of their life ever again'(ie tummy tuck episode).

jill said...

I think it is so funny that Kate says "I was away on a business trip"!!!!!!

Thanks for the laugh, Kate!

(Maybe you can write a book on business next!)

SoSuzMe said...

re: the speech delays

leah seems to speak nearly, if not completely, perfectly.

i don't know what that means .. if it means anything.
but so far that i can tell, she is the only one of the six that has beyond decent linguistic skills.


nature, nurture, premies, whatever.
what is to be made of this?

jill said...
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RN,BSN, CCRN in case you're wondering! said...

Sue said...
I must defend the education. There are nursing programs for LPN, RN, BSN etc. You can get an RN with a 2 year associates degree. She is STILL an RN. I'm sorry to bring this up and possibly anger people, but IIRC, Kate's education was not a degree program, it was a diploma program. It's kind of confusing, but a nursing diploma school is sort of like an apprenticeship...there's little, if any, classroom time, it's all on the job training. She doesn't have her ADN nor her BSN. Most Nursing Diploma schools aren't accredited anymore, as RN's are thought to need both major classroom education as well as clinical experience. (I just graduated last May w/ my BSN, so I know this all too well.) Anyway, Diploma programs aren't thought of too highly in the nursing field these days, unless, of course, that was an RN's only option "back in the day" (but by now, those RN's have years of experience to fall back on). There's too many of the so-called "diploma mills" out there-give a "school" some money, put a little effort into a program, and BAM! you have a diploma...not a very solid educational experience right there. So, in conclusion, I would say that just because Kate is an RN, it doesn't mean she's "educated", as mean as that sounds. And no, I'm not saying that b/c I have my BSN and feel intitled...Kate actually took the easy way out to get to her former RN career.


I have lurked for some time and refrained from commenting on the nursing education comments until now but I have to vehemently disagree with this one. I am not a fan of Kate's but if she is a licensed RN she passed the same boards that everyone else sat for - ADN, BSN, and diploma grads alike. All diploma grads who take the boards come from accredited programs. I agree that there are not many diploma programs out there anymore. But it wasn't because they did a poor job of educating nurses. In order to gain more respect as professionals, nursing leaders (and I agree)decided that programs needed to be more university-based rather than hospital based. As a result, diploma programs are being phased out. I am a diploma graduate initially and I had more classroom time than any ADN graduating today and significantly more clinical time. We were required to complete 24 hours of prerequisite classes at a local university before we even began the additional 24 month nursing program. In the past, I have taught clinicals in an ADN program and have precepted many new graduates from all types of programs, so I too know a little bit of what I am speaking about. I would challenge anyone to guess the educational background of most bedside nurses and I sincerely doubt that you could tell which ones were initially ADN's, BSN's or Diploma grads. Where the advanced degree becomes most beneficial is when the RN is wanting to advance beyond bedside nursing. Bottom line- there are wonderful nurses and pretty poor nurses with all types of educational backgrounds. I doubt that Kate was a very compassionate, knowledgeable nurse when she was practicing but that had little to do with her education and more to do with her personality. I think Kate does take the easy way out with a lot of the things she chooses to do. However, generalizing that all diploma grads are like Kate & slamming her nursing program (which has graduated some excellent nurses, I am sure!)in my opinion, is not the way to make a point. Sorry about the long post. I am now stepping off my soapbox and will return to lurkdom!

Donna said...

I have "Trip to the Vet" on in the background (figured i'd make some comments on it), and just wanted to vent about two things. Nice Jon. Way to leave Alexis in the car.
And why in the world did the Vet save that nasty filthy stuffed animal to SHOW them??? SOOOO GROSS.

Donna said...

I love how Kate hears about the things that happen in her own home for the first time in these interviews. Scary.

Unknown said...

We all talk about how different Kate was in the early shows...how she was much more loving with her children. But one trait I recall from the very first show was her blatant lying. That first hour was made to look like Kate ALL ALONE took care of the kids and the house all day. But even the casual eye saw the sticky notes with instructions EVERYWHERE in the house. One note in the kitchen's addressed to "lunchmaker". Hmm...well acording to Kate, SHE was the lunchmaker everyday...Then there are the seating and sleeping charts..Jon and Kate really needed those? Don't most parents know where their kids sleep?


It is SO FUNNY that you bring that up. I was watching the baby story on TLC today and next up was J&K. I have NEVER seen the first special. They show when Alexis has an accident all over the bed and Kate says "I don't do baths - Jon does" or something along those lines. Also all the notes said Jon do this Jon do that, etc....

He even says in that show basically that he dresses, baths, but the kids to bed. He had to make Kate's coffee every morning etc. SHe got the kids up at 8:30! I don't have kids but I don't know to many parents who have the luxary of their children sleeping until 8:30 when they go to bed at 7PM!!! She also was saying that her kids went down at 12:30 for a nap and I swear she said she woke them up at 4:30!!??? I maybe wrong and I know this an old "story" but I was blown away by this!!!

K8 H8ter said...

From an article in a recent Life & Style Magazine--

"Is eight not enough for Jon and Kate Gosselin? The reality-TV couple, who star on TLC's Jon and Kate Plus 8, may be adopting soon. Kate, 34, recently managed to tear herself away from husband Jon, 32, and their eight kids to chat with Life & Style about the challenges of being a mom- and the possibility of baby number 9!"

Are they serious? Managed to tear herself away from her husband and kids? This must be a joke. Have they even watched an episode? It is clear in every episode that Kate would rather be getting a PapSmear. Another excerpt:

"So is there any chance that you and Jon would consider adding to your family via adoption or foster-parenting?
Kate: You'll have to watch the show to learn that answer."

What kind of shameless plug is this? I don't know about the rest of you, but I really don't want to witness Ms. Katie Irene ruining another child's life by constantly exposing them to cameras and strange people.

Wendy Bird said...

Barb said...
"Here's my theory, because of the bad pub she's getting on these book signings, she will cancel the rest. But the reason she will give is the fear of contracting the Swine Flu and passing it onto Jon and the kids."
Or she will "contract" the Swine Flu and not be able to make the rest of the book signings or go home! Can you still go to the spa if you have the Swine Flu?

Unknown said...

I have lurked for some time and refrained from commenting on the nursing education comments until now but I have to vehemently disagree with this one. I am not a fan of Kate's but if she is a licensed RN she passed the same boards that everyone else sat for - ADN, BSN, and diploma grads alike. All diploma grads who take the boards come from accredited programs.



I so agree with you! They don't have different exams for the boards. I personally would like a nurse with more "on hands time" then "textbook" time! I have nurses in my family (old school) so they all did "diploma" programs through hospitals back in the 60's, and 70's. They are VERY intelligent and great nurses. I just think we need to not insult her nursing degree. She is not a nice woman, she has no COMPASSION which is the BIGGEST part of a being a nurse in my opinion. I have been in the hospital and as I have said in an earlier post the CNA's were amazing. My daytime nurse was NASTY and my nighttime nurse was AMAZING!! It all depends on the person......That is all I will say on this post. :)

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Lisbeth said...

For me, it isn't about liking or not liking the families on the reality family TV shows...it is about respecting the privacy of children. To be able to grow up, develop, stumble and learn and NOT have it be entertainment for the rest of the world to view, judge and analyze.

I admit, I do view child actors differently. They are playing a role, they are filmed in scenes that are rehearsed and follow guidelines and laws written to protect them. There is NO protection for the kids on these shows.

Viewers of Table for 12..you must have seen the uncomfortableness of the boy (around age 8?) as he was bracing for getting a filling at the dentist. He was not given privacy in the midst of what was obviously an uncomfortable personal moment. Exploitation...(it may not be the parents, it could be the producers, the directors, camera operators, the tv channel...)but it is still exploitation

Anonymous said...

FOSTER PARENTS?! Exploiting another kid for profit? A child who already has a hard life?...Oh please God do not allow this to happen.

LiLo said...

Donna -

I think the vet saved it to show them to drive the point home that this was their little toy and Nala can't eat it!

Unknown said...

lisbeth said:

For me, it isn't about liking or not liking the families on the reality family TV shows...it is about respecting the privacy of children


I so agree with you. I am on facebook and people have posted "old" photos and not alwasy great photos of grade school etc. They tag me and I "remove" the tag!! :) Yes the picture is still out there but all my friends and family don't see it everytime they go to my page. I am not being a b**ch, it's just embarassing times. So I can only imagine the WHOLE world seeing me go through that awkward stage of teeth lose and gummy smiles, the stage right before puberty, the stage of puberty etc.....I laugh at my old photos my parents have that are in their photo albums and I also cringe at how HORRIBLE I looked. BUT these photos and time periods are not there for the WHOLE world to see!!

Yes, Table of 12 (the one time I saw it and then slapped myself in the face and said What are you doing?) is much "nicer" than j&k but I saw those kids on some show one morning (maybe the Today show I am not sure) and the mom said "when the kids don't want to do it anymore we will stop" they then asked the kids what they felt and one of the older boys said "it's a little weird" that for me is a key to STOP!!! The older kids are like 12 HOW humilating when they go to school!!!!

Harriet said...

Here these parents are putting their kids very private moments out for their friends and the world to see and I drove 15 miles to take my kids to an orthodontist who had privacy screens between the different stations because my daughters didn't want to have their friends or anyone see them having their appliances worked on. I guess I should have been callous and said tough this one is walking distance from the school so you go there it doesn't matter if people will tease you about it.

I think all of these parents may live to regret what they're doing especially the ones who allow the more embarrassing moments be shown.

My5blessings said...

He even says in that show basically that he dresses, baths, but the kids to bed. He had to make Kate's coffee every morning etc. SHe got the kids up at 8:30! I don't have kids but I don't know to many parents who have the luxary of their children sleeping until 8:30 when they go to bed at 7PM!!! She also was saying that her kids went down at 12:30 for a nap and I swear she said she woke them up at 4:30!!??? I maybe wrong and I know this an old "story" but I was blown away by this!!!
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I swear, I think I've missed more shows than I saw when watching. I too have never seen the "first" show.
I have 5 children, 3 are grown. NONE of my kids ever and I mean ever went to bed at that time while taking such long naps. EVER!
WOWEE. Even now, my last two youngest get up at 6 or earlier.
And her life is hard!!???
I still challenge her to come here. Just take ONE of my SN children for one day, no half a day and then she can plunk herself on the couch and talk about tired!
I'd take ALL 8 of hers just to watch that show!
Of course, someone would have to watch her, Wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. But, I'd love to watch her chase my little nine year old runner down the road!
Now that would be a show! LOL

My5blessings said...

There is a level of exploitation, but we’re talking black and white comparing them to the Gosselins.
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I completely disagree with your post.
Debating the post and not the poster here.
Saying there is a level of exploitation is like saying "I'm a little pregnant" Either you are pregnant or your are not.

Exploitation is exploitation, whether the parents are kind/loving parents or not.

The children do not have a say when those cameras --for all to see every portion of their lives are turned off or on.

My5blessings said...

The Hayes are the nicest family. I like their parenting style. The kids are balanced and the parents just let them be kids. So cool.
The kids aren't neurotic and it makes me feel bad for those poor Gosselin Kids. It must be so hard with 10 children, but they don't complain about how exhausted they are. They need a bigger house with those kids. Besides the Mr Hayes is a Police Officer, God Bless him, he works. I hope they get to go on some awesome trips. I will help pay for it if they want to speak at my church. So what if Ragu gives them some sauce, give them whatever. I love them. They are going to need financial help with that precious angel who has cerebal palsy. Yet, they don't cry... "poor poor give us money..."
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From what I read, they seem like nice people. At least for now.
I have read so many posts about how nice Kate was in the beginning so this part gets sketchy for me.

Who knows if they are asking for things or not. We have no idea nor do I care. That isn't the point, not for me.

I will tell you they do get paid to exploit their children, that is a given.

While they hold jobs for now, money still flows from TLC's pockets and into their bank accounts.
And still........... it still leaves the exploiting of 10 children who have absolutely no say in all this.

Are you saying if Kate were a kinder person she could have all the free trips, money, "ragu Sauce" and it would all be fine?

The fact he is a Police officer means that much? While I respect the profession to protect and serve, it doesn't give them the right to exploit their children.

My dh Served for 22 years in the USN. My Son is a Marine. Served in Iraq as did my DH. My last two son's are Profoundly Austic. One is completely non-verbal, I've never heard his voice and most likely never will. He is 9 years old, suffers from severe seizures. The other is also Autistic, has CVS and Two tubes coming out of his stomach. Both require and will always require all our care for the rest of our lives and we are happy to do so. That is not a reason for me to exploit my children. I also along with countless parents in the same position as the Hayes, and the same position as myself have never said, "poor, poor us, give me money"

I adore my children, all 5 of them. I prayed for them and they were given to my husband and myself as a gift from God. I enjoy ALL the little things my last two boys do.( all of them) From just a glance to holding my hand unexpectedly. I appreciate it all. Nothing is ever taken as a given when it comes to them in particular.

While I do understand you like these people, surely you do understand they are still exploiting them whether the parents are good, bad or indifferent.
Exploitation doesn't have a personality attached to it.

My5blessings said...

Lisbeth wrote:

For me, it isn't about liking or not liking the families on the reality family TV shows...it is about respecting the privacy of children. To be able to grow up, develop, stumble and learn and NOT have it be entertainment for the rest of the world to view, judge and analyze.

I admit, I do view child actors differently. They are playing a role, they are filmed in scenes that are rehearsed and follow guidelines and laws written to protect them. There is NO protection for the kids on these shows.

Viewers of Table for 12..you must have seen the uncomfortableness of the boy (around age 8?) as he was bracing for getting a filling at the dentist. He was not given privacy in the midst of what was obviously an uncomfortable personal moment. Exploitation...(it may not be the parents, it could be the producers, the directors, camera operators, the tv channel...)but it is still exploitation

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Beautifully said.
I didn't see any of this but just reading your post -- The last part-made me feel sick.
My heart breaks for all these children.
What is going on?
So darn sad. Where are the adults to protect them? Absent........

Unknown said...

I must say I dont' agree with the insults to Jon and his degree. I know I will get attacked for this but.....My husband yes has a BS but it's in forestry but he is an IT guy. The one thing about IT is that you can get a certification, whether it's a MCSE, CCSE, etc... If you have the CISCO certification you can make really good money. From what it sounds like Jon didn't get anything..and to say he was an IT anaylst takes at least a degree or certification. There are some IT certs that can enable someone who has no AS or BS to make 100+ a year. So.....with that said...If Jon couldn't "support" his family he WAS NOT an It analyst. BUT at the sametime to say he doesn't have any knowledge b/c he doesn't have a Bachelors doesnt' mean he couldn't be successful in IT. My husband works with a gentleman who is 24 and makes more money than anyone in his department b/c he has numerous certifications..... But I think we all know this is NOT JON. I just wanted to add my 2 cents once again.. The dissing on IT people sometimes insults me or I should say my husband.

enoughisenough said...

My5blessings said...
There is a level of exploitation, but we’re talking black and white comparing them to the Gosselins.
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I completely disagree with your post.
Debating the post and not the poster here.
Saying there is a level of exploitation is like saying "I'm a little pregnant" Either you are pregnant or your are not.

Exploitation is exploitation, whether the parents are kind/loving parents or not.

The children do not have a say when those cameras --for all to see every portion of their lives are turned off or on.


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I SO agree. I get frustrated reading this blog from time to time because I feel like people set a double standard. There is NO difference in what these families are doing to their children. Sure, some may be "nicer" and appear to be happier. But exploitation is exploitation. If we are going to say that we legitimately care about the exploitation of these children (and I know most of of do). Then I think we need to set a standard of being disgusted with any and all exploitation. Not just of the families that we think are nice or not nice.

My5blessings said...

Enoughisenough wrote:

I SO agree. I get frustrated reading this blog from time to time because I feel like people set a double standard. There is NO difference in what these families are doing to their children. Sure, some may be "nicer" and appear to be happier. But exploitation is exploitation. If we are going to say that we legitimately care about the exploitation of these children (and I know most of of do). Then I think we need to set a standard of being disgusted with any and all exploitation. Not just of the families that we think are nice or not nice.
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Exactly!!! Nice has nothing to do with it.
It is all about setting a standard as you say.

Perfectly said, enough!

While I DO wish Jon and Kate were kinder and I do ache for their children. I still say turn all these shows OFF.

It's absolutely insanity and I can hardly believe it's Okay to do it as long as you are kind/loving parents. Exploit your children.
I can't believe this is acceptable.

jill said...

"Keep a heads up for the Gosselins to go to the Smithsonian Natural History Museum in Washington DC. We saw them parading around with the film crew during spring break week (week before Easter)"

I bet it has something to do with "Night at the Museum 2"...it will be released sometime in May.

My5blessings said...

I agree. I even feel differently about child actors and kids in commericials. Kon has damaged all kids in entertainment for me. I realize that kids should NOT be entertainment for adults. My daughter watches "iCarly" and that is entertainment for KIDS but I still wonder how it is for the kids on the show. Then I wonder if the same sickos that buy "8 Exploited Faces" would also watch "iCarly?"
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It does make you question all children. Just feels like all of the sudden there is this explotion of children on T.V. all by virtue of either a large family or having a large family "all at once"
I don't know, I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall right now.
Most people do get it, it's not okay to exploit children.

My5blessings said...

I absolutely love the Roloffs. They are the most giving family. Such a contrast.
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Having seen this show, I can agree they seem like good people.
It still doesn't change the exploitation of children/teens.

Unknown said...

enoghisenough said"

SO agree. I get frustrated reading this blog from time to time because I feel like people set a double standard. There is NO difference in what these families are doing to their children. Sure, some may be "nicer" and appear to be happier. But exploitation is exploitation.


I agree there are "double" standards on this site. It's not just about that but people attacking Kate for her RN degree and people trying to diss Jon (which I agree it doesn't sound like he has a degre or cert) but let's focus on the point of this blog and our focus about all these shows....I used to love The Wedding Story, Baby Story etc...Now TLC is a free for all...It's insane. I still do watch the baby story sometimes in the morning but that is about it. I am over them!!

ICExploitation said...

The dissing on IT people sometimes insults me or I should say my husband.FWIW I think people know that to be an "IT analyst" takes the initiative to stay certified and have an understanding of the medium. This being said, Jon does not seem the type to have initiative or even have an understanding of the medium. Jon insults real IT analysts by claiming to be one.

Jenni said...

Long-time reader, first-time poster! Love this site! I believe there is a difference between the Gosselin and Hayes families. I realize that most of you will disagree with this, but I don't believe the act of filming children is necessarily exploitative. With the Gosselins, Kate is verbally and mentally abusive to her kids and Jon allows this abuse to continue. I believe that the abuse, itself, is a form of exploitation. This has always been my real problem with the Gosselins, not the fact that the children are filmed. Although I do feel that, with the Gosselins, filming seems to enable Kate's abusive nature. With the Hayes, I see no evidence of abuse.

I understand and respect the position taken by most of you, who feel that filming all children is wrong, I just don't agree with this position. If fact, I believe the Gosselin's problems go much deeper than just a T.V. show.

Unknown said...

She says on this eposide 'jon 2 boys pooped (or something like that) and said Jon go take care of it!!! All Kate ever does is "cook" and put the kids to nap!! This is so reflective even in this show! She doesn't wash them, change diapers (only when jon was at work), clean them up after a meal, put them to bed, play with them......So what DOES she do?? I know now she "travels" but even in the early shows what does she do????

Janine said...

Wow, Kate must not be THAT popular in Washington State (Seattle, Bellevue) because I live about an hour away from those locations and I heard NOTHING about her coming. The ONLY reason I knew she even came here is from the comments here.
Oh yeah and for those of you that dont know Washington and the Seattle area, I'm pretty sure Kate DEMANDED to go to Bellevue because its one of the most rich and classy cities we have around here....way more high class than Seattle. When I heard she went to Bellevue I was not suprised at all.

You know, I thought I would be upset that I missed her appearance, because me and my boyfriend would have for sure gone and protested (seriously!), but I really do NOT care about her anymore.
I dont care about how she looks, I dont care about how cute she thinks she looks, I dont care about her snotty attitude because its NEVER going to change....all I care about is that I wish I knew she treated her children with love and respect.


Oh yeah, and I wanted to start a little survey....

WHAT STATE IS EVERYONE FROM??

Me, obviously Im in Washington State.

Anonymous said...

Stop wathching the show, really. I have not seen this show 3 months, however I do keep up with this blog. Don't you know there is a reason Kate has the ugliest, tackiest hairstyle ever known to man? Because it will cause the conversation to be about Kate. Do you know why Kate has started acting like a Diva? Because she knows she will be talked about!

Kate Gosselin truly believes bad publicity is better than no publicity. My guess is that she is laughing all the way to the bank with the negative publicity.

Don't give her what she wants - don't talk about her. Talk about how you love the kids or what an idiot Jon is, but don't mention Kate. It will drive her crazy!!!

MomIAm said...

I'm not sure where I stand on the exploitation issue. On one hand the kids don't have a say in it, but on the other hand they have a roof over their heads, nice clothes and food to eat. These are hard times. Since the kids are the real draw, I hope that TLC pays the kids individually for each show and that the money for them is protected. That is the main concern for me.

JJ said...

Laura, I know that people get defensive when it comes to ear piercing guns, as I said it's the most common way for parents to have their child's ears pierced.

But it still doesn't mean it's the safest. Antiseptic wipes are not autoclaves, blood splatter cannot be entirely removed from all possible working parts and crevices with a wipe, and the earrings are not sharp enough.

I don't blame people for having their child's ears pierced in this way, again because it's the most common and appealing way, but justifying and ignoring dangers because they didn't appear to be there is not wise, IMO, for any situation.

What you do is up to you but for any "procudure" in which a child or person is being poked, punctured, pricked, whatever, should be approached with caution and research. If one person walks away from this post having learned something, I'll be happy, since it's not easy asking people to go to a downtown tattoo/piercig parlour (obviously do your research there too!) instead of the mall that you often do your shopping in.

If nothing else, if your child ever begs for an upper ear cartilage piercing or nose ring, THAT is when piercing guns become even more dangerous for the tissue and can cause severe damage. Luckily, from what I've seen, most places do not offer that service with a gun.

Roryz said...

Regarding the signature Kate left in the fan's copy of "Eight Little Faces," it looks to me as if she signed it KATE IRENE.
I can't imagine why, but there's no way that last name is Gosselin. Just saying...

Maude said...

WHAT STATE IS EVERYONE FROM??
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Michigan!

Why r they still 2gether? said...

Janine- I am in Ontario Canada-
Not a state - a province!

marylou said...

The "tentative" live Q&A with Kate scheduled for this week at washingtonpost.com is no where to be seen on their web site. Love to know the back story on why it didn't get past "tentative".

Laurie said...

I was just reading foxnews.com and they've got a small picture essay titled: "The 'Four Kids and Up Club' PHOTOS: With mother's day around the corner, check out which celebs will be celebrating big time with their big broods" Queen Kate DID NOT make the list which goes to show that she is only a D list reality star....

PAmama said...

Oh yeah, and I wanted to start a little survey....

WHAT STATE IS EVERYONE FROM??
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Central PA, too close for comfort to the Gosselins.

rissapa219 said...

Ok, so I am neither "sheeple" or "troll" I am just in between. I dont think that Kate is going to get the best parent award anytime soon...nor do I think she is exploiting her kids. I think Kate has a 'diva' personality..but it has always been that way, even before the show. I think Jon knew well in advance to marrying Kate how she acts. Though I dont think that is an excuse for her acting and saying some of the things she does...but he does some dishing too. Its just their relationship. I think TLC has seen what is getting the attention ie:this blog and the others and is doing what sells. And neg publicity is publicity. The other night while sitting on the couch with my two kids one 4 and the other 22months...I couldnt imagine adding 5 more to the younger and one more to the older. How would I divide my love and attention? Maybe thats how Kate feels and thats why she is traveling more although she loves all her kids she feels like it just isnt enough and runs instead of confronts? (and part contractually) I do think Kate loves her children very much. I dont get the impresion she dosnt.

I guess why I am posting on here is because why watch, post, some are even stalking, if you disagree with what she does? All you are doing is fueling the fire. If you think the children are being exploited (which I do not) okay write about that but not things you dont know or think you do. Most of whats on here is much speculation gone wild.

And with the 'sheeple' blog..its not okay to sugarcoat everything either. Kate is who she is. You either like her or you dont. And honestly she really dosnt care either way. But dont sugar coat her as being a person that she is not. Its okay to disagree with her and still be a fan of the show. Its okay that people dont always agree with what she and jon are doing.

As far as their money is concerned..I think they are set for life. I do believe Kate (although sometimes its hard to) when she says they kids have college accounts set up. TLC probably set them up with some financial advisor who has helped them put money in accounts for the kids where jon and kate can not touch and the children can not touch until they are 18.
Even when the show ends, the royalties they will recieve from her books, dvd's and such will be coming in forever.

Just my opinion.

Sharon said...

Dunwoody Mom, I totally agree with you. So many of us hate kate, and she just loves it. She has a huge home Ann Taylor clothes, beautiful kids,( and in her mind it's in that order), and she could care less what anyone thinks of her. In fact I think the more we hate her the more she likes it because it means more money for her. Kate is incapable of seeing the big picture here, she only see how is this bennifiting her. So I'm going to take your advice, and not talk about her anymore. I will talk about the kids, and stuff, but not kate. We need to take her out of the lime light.

Wendy Bird said...

Sue said...
I must say I dont' agree with the insults to Jon and his degree. I know I will get attacked for this but.....My husband yes has a BS but it's in forestry but he is an IT guy. The one thing about IT is that you can get a certification, whether it's a MCSE, CCSE, etc... If you have the CISCO certification you can make really good money. From what it sounds like Jon didn't get anything..and to say he was an IT anaylst takes at least a degree or certification. There are some IT certs that can enable someone who has no AS or BS to make 100+ a year. So.....with that said...If Jon couldn't "support" his family he WAS NOT an It analyst. BUT at the sametime to say he doesn't have any knowledge b/c he doesn't have a Bachelors doesnt' mean he couldn't be successful in IT. My husband works with a gentleman who is 24 and makes more money than anyone in his department b/c he has numerous certifications..... But I think we all know this is NOT JON. I just wanted to add my 2 cents once again.. The dissing on IT people sometimes insults me or I should say my husband.
I haven't read the book, but apparently in Multiple Blessings Kate says (as Beth writes) that Jon took a six week course in Microsoft Office. He can now create Word and Excel documents! I guess that I am an IT analyst and didn't know it!

Sue, my nephew has two degrees and a number of certifications (including CISCO.) He makes close to six figures and is in his twenties. Jon insults anyone in the profession who has degrees and certifications by pretending that he is something that he is not. The jobs that he did have (with the friend of his father's and with the Commonwealth of PA) were charity jobs - given to him out of generosity, not because he has any qualifications. I do not have much of a problem with that, because at least he was working; but he needs to stop the charade.

Scuffy's Mom said...

People here are wondering what last name she is signing in her books?

Probably Kate "Suckers" for everyone who buys a book.

How come I read post after post on here that everyone is going to give her a piece of their mind when they see her in public or at the book signings but never do?

MBach said...

Just remember folks -
Every time you watch the show -cable and satellite can monitor the viewer numbers.
Every time you click on the J&K+8 website, or any website promoting J&K+8 -you become a number.
Every time you click on a youTube site - you become a number.
Every time you look up a picture, buy a magazine, check out a video, buy a book, and on and on and on - YOU BECOME A NUMBER!
Even clicking on this website - at over 4,000,000 -
YOU BECOME A NUMBER!
Then all those little numbers get added up, and reported to Discovery Channel and TLC. Then those little numbers become BIG BUCKS in selling air time to any advertiser willing to link their name to child exploItation.

I USED TO WATCH, but NO MORE.
The networks, magazines, and advertisers do not care if you watch the show to hate it. They just care that you ARE watching. Any type of interest in the abuse of the Gosselin children -or any of the other children exposed on these "reality" programs just means numbers of viewers, and those numbers just mean money.

Children's lives are being reduced and changed forever just for the love of $$$$$$$$$.
How can that ever be justified?

When a child has a temper tantrum, you make sure they can't hurt themselves, then you DO NOT GIVE THEM ATTENTION for that tantrum. They will stop, when you stop being a part of the tanturm.

Let us all stop giving Kate attention to her tanturms.
PLEASE stop watching!

Kate is so craving of attention -shades of poor Maddie -that she doesn't care how she looks. She puts herself into public events, and acts like she is being bothered. She is so jealous of Jon, and the good childhood he had, how it is easier for him to be "friendly" with people, how he was able to take trips and experience life like Kate could not. Kate is jealous that he seems to be able to show some love and have some fun (not often enough, but compared to Kate-huge) with his children and family. No matter how much Kate receives, it will not be enough to fill her emptiness, emptiness that seems to go very deep. It is all so very sad, but Kate has become a user. Using her children to gain things only money can buy. We should NOT LET HER USE US. We should NOT let their children be used, because the parents are too caught up in the life style; they can no longer see how their children's lives are being changed - forever changed!

I posted weeks ago that Kate loves babies because babies can be completed controled. Once a child has thoughts and opinions of their own, mothers like Kate quickly loose interest. She can control her fans by walking out of signing and speaking engagements. She can control her husband by acting on his sense of responsiblity (again, not the greatest, but far better then Kate's) toward his children. He can't leave them, he must be the poop patrol or anything that minimizes him as a man, he must do things her way- the only way. I am not giving Jon a free pass here, as he is just as guilty. I just see Kate as the driving force behind this "show is our life" farce, because she needs it, wants it, must have it!

The only power we have as viewers is to write to the networks and advertisers; and say - I DO NOT WATCH THIS SHOW NOR SHOWS LIKE IT ANYMORE, PLEASE REMOVE THEM FROM YOUR LISTINGS.
STOP ABUSING CHILDREN!

Then REALLY STOP WATCHING! Stop going to websites, and anything else that contributes to this child abuse. Okay, I'll give up on this websit, because at least the focus is correct. :0)

sueshe said...

Her behavior at the book signings are appalling. I can not believe that she can't spend the time to autograph the books in the time slot alloted. Her excuse of having to catch a plane is a line of crock! Her flights are booked according to her schedule and am sure she would be given ample time to catch the flight. The public are the ones who have made her so famous. If it wasn't for us, she wouldn't be bathing in dollars like she is.
I don't really understand why TLC is hammering the heck out of the reruns. Especially rerunning the same episode several times during the week. It just shows the transformation of a family that has changed so much, it has hurt them. I hope they are strong enough to get thru it, because it certainly appears that the family is extremely strained.
I enjoyed the show, loved the kids, and hated when Kate felt she needed to correct Jon on the couch. The show's premise now is more about what they have, what they are going to get, and what trips they are going on.
As the kids enter school, I would imagine that TLC's brainchild of a show will be coming to an end. And poor Kate will be home, cooking her meals, and saying "Welcome to my world," and looking out the window saying, "this is all mine".
Good luck KONS....your going to need it!

itcouldhappen said...

rissapa219 said...
TLC probably set them up with some financial advisor who has helped them put money in accounts for the kids where jon and kate can not touch and the children can not touch until they are 18.


Aren't you doing the same thing you complain about others doing? Posting about something not shown on the show and making assumptions? Why is it always okay for fans to make positive assumptions but not okay for non-fans to make negative ones? I'm not trying to start an argument - I'm really curious.

Amiright said...

About claiming they had no money and they had over 20 thou in the bank when the babies were born.. The State of PA and the Federal Govt picked up the tab for her children. OK. Ever heard of
Theft by deception. I think it was deceptive.

Ponce Family said...

My 6 year old daughter and I went to Kate's book signing on Sunday (Lakeland, FL) and I was not impressed with her public display of (no)affection. I got the feeling it was an inconvenience for Kate to be there -She didn't smile very much or give off any warm/fuzzy feelings. I really wanted to offer her a Xanex or something :o) People waited in a mile long line for a 2 second autograph...She could have at least offered a big smile or "Hey, how are you?"

My5blessings said...

I'm not sure where I stand on the exploitation issue. On one hand the kids don't have a say in it, but on the other hand they have a roof over their heads, nice clothes and food to eat. These are hard times. Since the kids are the real draw, I hope that TLC pays the kids individually for each show and that the money for them is protected. That is the main concern for me.

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believe it or not, I do understand what you are posting here.
But, once again I disagree. The logic just isn't there. NOT an attack on you, just think of this.
Even prostitutes get paid, some are even treated kindly by their pimps, taken care of, roof over their heads, food to eat.........

It is the "job" of the Parents to protect their children, not TLC.
Money should never come into play as far having camera crews in your home constantly.
In *my* opinion this is such an invasion of privacy. They rarely get a break. Cannot go on field trips without the camera crew.
Can't even poop without someone "filming" them. This is wrong, all in the name of money.
That's wrong.

My5blessings said...

Scuffy's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Free Discussion 4/25 - 5/1":

People here are wondering what last name she is signing in her books?

Probably Kate "Suckers" for everyone who buys a book.

How come I read post after post on here that everyone is going to give her a piece of their mind when they see her in public or at the book signings but never do?

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ROFLMBO!
Now this was funny. Yes, Kate Sucker!

I'd never buy her book, or anything else she offered.
I assure you, I am very opinionated and if she ever came to this area-- I would be there! I have a feeling many of the people who do live here would be there as well.
Won't say where to protect others, but we'd go and it would not be kind. I sure as hell wouldn't be snapping pictures of her. BLECK

I'd love nothing more than to picket her.

Unfortunately, she's never come close enough to my area that I know of to do so.
I'd never go out of my way either and waste my precious gas--I think she's a self righteous person, who falls back on her religion so she can say the famous "I'm not perfect" crap........

She and Jon both fall so short of being good parents its obscene.
They are failures in every sense of the word, with one exception-- how to exploit the hell out of your children and make darn good money doing it!

Charlie Rose said...

Have you all thought that the reason Kate leaves her book signings early is because the people have already BOUGHT her book so why take the time to autograph them. Who cares when they already put down the cash to buy the book.

She is a diva in her own mind.

Ava2 said...

To Linda Hoyt - that story about baby bear has me bawling my eyes out! How sweet. May God Bless you, your husband and your precious boy.

As for Table for 12, I wish them all the luck and freebies they can get, as they are a loving NORMAL family and very likable. To the person who predicted Table for 12 wouldn't last, let's hope they do because I am now a devoted fan and I won't watch J&K anymore.

The show that everyone should protest vehemently is that "Tiara" show where little girls are made up and their hair teased and they are taught to be flirty and sexy. Those parents should be ASHAMED of themselves. Those parents are really SICK and I'm shocked that TLC could even find sponsors for such a show.

sean said...

A woman who is big Kate fan who attended her book signing in Lakeland, FL has a blog where she posted her meeting. On her blog she has pictures of her kids meeting Kate and gives their names and the name of her husband. She even states she lives in Lakeland. Gives good insight into a typical Kate fan. How smart is it to post pictures of your children on the internet? Do these people see themselves as Kate but on a smaller scale? FYI- strangers for the most part don't care about your kids, and the ones that do you should be worried about. But who in their right mind has a blog with their kids for all the world to see?

LB said...

I think it’s creepy some people paste their blogs with pictures of the Gosselin children and declare they are in love with them when they have not met them and had no personal relationship with them. They just bonded with them through their TV screen somehow. I am aware that just about everyone has their favorite media personality. But this is beyond normal, I think. I just find such a hoot into the behavior of ‘fans’ and not understanding how much the Gosselins have come to expect from the public like receiving over a thousand dollar worth of freebies from the Harlem Globetrotters. I still can’t believe anyone would have allowed that to happen. In a normal world, a person would not have had that. I also find it a hoot that one fan thinks it’s awesome that Kate wore $300 shoes to one of her speaking/book signing engagements. Um, how is spending $300 awesome when Kate claims that raising 8 children comes with skyrocketing costs as she stated on Dr. Phil at one time? That outrageous alleged birthday dinner at Mr. Chow? I would be surprised if Jon coughed up the monies to pay for that as her birthday present. I just read an old article online about how Jon was hoping that his boys would have football scholarships at Penn State after the football coach visited them on THE DAY OF THEIR BIRTHS. How could she have known that since everything is paid by TLC, Figure 8 film, selling pictures of her children, love offerings, freebies from fans and product placement? After all, I don’t believe KON buys their own toys, the majority of the family’s clothing, and the necessary essentials. Hell, she got 2 sets of washers and dryers twice from Whirlpool. They have to pay for nothing and they don’t think they need to save up money for vacation and major purchases as TLC will take care of that. I know there are rumors that she asks for more if she receives only one freebie from someone. Please explain to me how this could be acceptable since there would not have been a show in existence without the sextuplets. I would think that TLC would probably have thrown away their auction tape if it had featured just the twins or the parents. How I wish this show was never created in the first place, then maybe their parenting styles would have been completely different and the children better-behaved and well within their growth with others since that gap between preemies and full-term babies should be almost non-exist. I wonder what KON must think they are teaching their children as they allow the show to go on. That quote of ‘our life is the show, the show is our life’ is not exactly 100% reality. How many people live that type of life? They are just trying to be A-list stars and don’t seem want to relate with us ordinary people any longer. They must have special treatment, bodyguards and public sites shut down for them. How does that adhere to their claims of being an everyday, god-fearing, American family? Gag me please.

met said...

I agree with MY5Blessings.

I don't care how nice the table for 12 family is. Why do they think I want to see their lives and that of their kids?

Why are people having "litters" of children now a days? She's infertile and she had two sets of twins and then tups? (is that the story?) Did she ever try to get pregnant withOUT drugs, ivf etc? I have infertile friends and most of them gave birth to singletons. (via IVF and IUI) Only one gave birth to triplets and after that she got pregnant quite easily. Soon everyone will try to have a litter so they can get free stuff and have a tv show.

I think it's sick.

Jane in California said...

lindahoyt said:

But, my husband searched until he found that bear and brought him home....and was a huge hero to my son, then, and now. My son knows that his dad would do anything for him, if he would drive through a snowstorm, and search through several feet of snow, just on the possibility that he would mend the broken heart of his son.Your beautiful story just made me cry.

What Kate and Jon don't have a clue about, is that giving our kids fancy expensive things doesn't matter a bit in the long run. It's the little things, the giving of true love, and going the extra mile, like your husband did that cold snowy night, that enriches our children's lives and shows them they are loved and cherished.

Sable said...

I have been following the show and all the comments made on this post for a long time, and I can't help but ask this question. Does anyone think that if we knew a lot about Kate's upbringing that it would explain her atrocious behavior? I do. I would buy a book (not written by her) that gave details about her childhood. It is unfortunate that no one in her family will speak up even to defend her!

MeggoMyEggo said...

Know what I have realized about BabyMama's site? She is just like Kate in so many ways. She often complains about her kids or her husband on her blog. I think thats why she feels the need to exalt Kate so much, because she is so very much similar to her. BabyMama has frequently made negative comments regarding her kids, or said that she would treat her kids or husband the same way. I also find it pathetic that she is always referencing what this blog says. So she sits on her computer and reads all these posts and then post her pitiful rebuttles on her own site. Seriously, how pathetic is that. How about instead of her sitting on her computer all day long with an unhealthy obsession with someone she's never even met she went outside and spent time with her family....
Its just so ridiculous.

yeaisaidthat said...

In response to: "About claiming they had no money and they had over 20 thou in the bank when the babies were born.. The State of PA and the Federal Govt picked up the tab for her children. OK. Ever heard of
Theft by deception. I think it was deceptive."

I agree 100%. IMO, the entire 'empire' that is J & K Gosselin is/was founded on and continues to thrive on 'theft by deception'!!

realitybites said...

The TWOP website , Television Without Pity, has listed Reality TV's most horrible people. Yes, Jon and Kate Gosselin made the list.

Soon2bwife said...

I figured it out; Kate "takes care" of her children and loves them. She is always feeding them and washing their clothes etc. She just doesn't provide any nuturing i.e. encouragement, teaching, support, undivided attention, etc. Anybody catching my drift?

rissapa219 said...

Like I said I do not completely agree that Kate.And My5blessings I was not attacking you personally. You have your opinion about the exploitation thing and I get that I even understand why you and others feel that way. I just dont.

However, I guess I just don't understand why if you some people on here hate Kate so much, or dislike the show. Why are you watching? The best way to get rid of the show is for it to have low ratings. I also dont understand the stalker stuff. Who cares where she lives, where she gets her hair done, where she shops, if you dont like her why do you?

I have my opinion with the fan sites too. They are the same way. Very passive and dont see the truth. A little too much like Kate.


But what I do know is that when you are in the "buisness" you are told to seek out financial advise. And when there are children involved they usually make sure there is one. To insure that the children are getting their money. That is with any child actor. Though the parent is custodial, the children are entitled to their money.


I am not on here to defend Kate. You all have an opinion of her. We all do. Their like assholes everyones got one. But, facts are far more interesting then lies.

fyi- Kate does have a relationship with her family.

Megan A. said...

re: Jane in California said "it's the little things that count"

I totally agree! These kids are never going to remember these fancy trips and freebies. However, they WILL remember their mom never being around, never fingerpainting with them or reading to them, etc. It's the little things that are truly special.

One of my favorite childhood memories is that of my mother coming in my room every day at 5am to kiss me goodbye on her way to work (as a nurse). I could always smell her blush when she kissed my cheek and to this day, the smell of makeup (cover girl to be exact) always makes me remember that.

You would think Kate would get this, as she is so obsessed with "making memories" for her kids.

Yeah right.

swissmiss said...

I work in Wash., D.C. and live in a Virginia suburb.

Very disappointed to hear that the Gosselins were on the mall recently and I missed them. About two years ago, I was walking by Natural History and some chairs were set out on the grass and some security guards were standing around. I didn't know why. Found out later that Steve Carrell was in the museum area filming "Mission Impossible."

It's not terribly unusual to see all types of trucks, catering vans, etc. parked on the streets because movies are being filmed in D.C. I've never actually seen any stars, though. Sometimes only background shots are taken in D.C., and the actual stars may or may not actually show up.

Ponce Family said...

My 6 year old daughter and I went to Kate's book signing on Sunday (Lakeland, FL) and I was not impressed with her public display of (no)affection. I got the feeling it was an inconvenience for Kate to be there -She didn't smile very much or give off any warm/fuzzy feelings. People waited in a mile long line for a 2 second autograph...She could have at least offered a big smile or "Hey, how are you?"

Anonymous said...

Paginator, Ava2 and Jane in California; I did hang onto that guy; the story is 20 years old!

Here is another cute story for you, about a Dad who learned a valuable lesson, one I wish Kon would learn....

My husband was in the military when we were first married. Shortly after I gave birth to my second of 4 children, our oldest, 18 months at the time, had pneumonia. DH took them to the hospital emergency room and waited....it takes hours, while I stayed at home with the baby.

Anyway, while they were waiting, in comes a father with his son, about 5. The dad is berating the poor child, loud enough for everyone to hear, because the little boy had stuck a bean up his nose, and couldn't get it out! The Dad went on and on yelling at the boy, saying that he couldn't believe that the kid 'could get a bean stuck up his nose'! That he could get it out, if he wanted to, just blow! The kid was crying, and the dad just kept loudly humiliating him.

When my husband finally got into the exam room, the nurse was incredulous! She was so angry with that father for treating the poor little kid like that.

My kid had to have x-rays and tests, and so my husband was there for several hours. Long enough to get the priviledge to see this same ridiculing father come back with a bean stuck up his own nose! He said he wanted to see how it was possible to get a bean stuck up your nose!

Justice.

Anonymous said...

How about an example of the same type of parenting that Kate providing her children. A not so nice story.

I know a family where the daughter, at the time, about 4 years old, had an imaginary kitten. She took it everywhere, played with it and loved it. It was real to her little mind. Her mother went along with it; and the little girl was very happy.

But, her dad didn't like it. He thought it made her seem crazy. Then one day the child did something while 'playing' with her kitten, that infuriated the father. He went on a rage, asked the daughter to 'give him the kitten', and he pretended to stomp on it, and 'kill' it! This was real to the little girl! She was actually traumatised.

Of course this is just one event, and rarely does one event shape a whole life; but this little girl is now a grandmother, and she has had a lifetime battle with drug addiction and a bad relationship with her parents.

We use to sing a song in Sunday School, that surely Kate, whose father was a minister, sang...

"be careful little lips what you say, be careful little lips what you say, because the Father up above is looking down with tender love, be careful little lips what you say".....

Words do hurt. Probably worse than sticks and stones. They cause bruises that never heal.

cassandrau said...

I don't know if anyone has covered this before, but does anyone know why Jon and Kate have such strict requirements about the boys NEVER to go into the girls' rooms and vice versa? That was never a rule with me growing up, so maybe I just don't get it, but it seems like there's a different underlying issue there. Does anyone know?

SmartyQ said...

Sable said... I have been following the show and all the comments made on this post for a long time, and I can't help but ask this question. Does anyone think that if we knew a lot about Kate's upbringing that it would explain her atrocious behavior? I do. I would buy a book (not written by her) that gave details about her childhood. It is unfortunate that no one in her family will speak up even to defend her!Ah, the nature vs nurture debate. I don't remember who said it, but it's what I believe: 'Nature is the gun; nurture's finger is on the trigger.'

I have a cousin who could be QFI's psychological twin. My cousin was a pain in diapers, and she'll be a pain when she's in Depends. Her parents are decent, loving and involved persons who did the best they could by their four children. Certainly, my cousin had no less than anyone else in our middle-class environment. She had nice clothes, enough food, went to camp, was involved in social activities, lived in a nice house and had parents who cared for her. It was never enough for her, and like QFI, she believed she was owed far more than she got. Her grudge bag is huge, and she carries every perceived slight, every trespass (real or imagined) against her from the time she was small, and she brings them out frequently so she can gloat over her sad, sad life that she has valiantly overcome.

She has been vicious to every member of her family, including her children—except for her golden son, who is a mess. No one in our family, including her siblings and her children, wants anything to do with her, and we dread family gatherings when we know she's coming.

I've come to the conclusion that she arrived the way she is—rather like a sociopath. I also believe QFI was done baking at a very early age too. All of the counseling in the world won't change my cousin nor QFI. They're in the right, and the rest of us are wrong.

Connie said...

Sue said...
She says on this eposide 'jon 2 boys pooped (or something like that) and said Jon go take care of it!!! All Kate ever does is "cook" and put the kids to nap!! This is so reflective even in this show! She doesn't wash them, change diapers (only when jon was at work), clean them up after a meal, put them to bed, play with them......So what DOES she do?? I know now she "travels" but even in the early shows what does she do????

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She does the thinking, planning, and directing.
She has said that before.

So she has no problem NOT doing anything when Jon is home, which by now is pretty much all the time, these days.

Seems they could now let her do some of the work since Jon is home way more than Kate is.

Maybe he should do the directing, now that she seems to have lost touch with everything going on there.

Sidney said...

Dunwoody Mom said:

... Kate Gosselin truly believes bad publicity is better than no publicity. My guess is that she is laughing all the way to the bank with the negative publicity.
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I absolutely agree!

They have said they will "Do anything for our kids."

So this is just a part of their "doing anything for the kids."

Kate is devious enough NOT to give a darn what people say about her. It has faired them pretty well. Look at that house she lives in.

Look at those cars, vans, Kate's clothes, etc. etc. etc.

Nell said...

Roryz said...
Regarding the signature Kate left in the fan's copy of "Eight Little Faces," it looks to me as if she signed it KATE IRENE.
I can't imagine why, but there's no way that last name is Gosselin. Just saying...

4/28/2009 5:23 AM

I believe she signs her name like some of the doctors do.

They write their first name somewhat legibly, but then just leave some squiggles for the last name.

I work in a busy medical clinic and see that all the time.

Well, after all, she is a very busy, very import person, don't we all know?

Squiggles say a lot about how a person thinks of themselvs.

Holly said...

Soon2bwife said...
I figured it out; Kate "takes care" of her children and loves them. She is always feeding them and washing their clothes etc. She just doesn't provide any nuturing i.e. encouragement, teaching, support, undivided attention, etc. Anybody catching my drift?

4/28/2009 11:40 AM

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I wonder how much of this basic care she does any more. She has "people."

Merrilee said...

cassandrau said...
I don't know if anyone has covered this before, but does anyone know why Jon and Kate have such strict requirements about the boys NEVER to go into the girls' rooms and vice versa? That was never a rule with me growing up, so maybe I just don't get it, but it seems like there's a different underlying issue there. Does anyone know?

4/28/2009 12:17 PM

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This has really bothered me too. It is just another way for Her Royal Hiney to try to control her kingdom.

Just like she always has things done by "birth order."

Since Joel last born, he is always the tail end for doctor's and dentist's exams, and things like that.

This really hurts his feelings and does nothing good for his self-esteem.

There is absolutely no reason for her stupid manifestations.

Just as NONE of their kids are allowed in her room, neither are any of the kids supposed to be in other kids bedrooms or bathrooms.

I even heard Hannie screeching one day, "Boys are not supposed to touch the girls!"

Her Royal Hiney has decreed all this absolutely important stuff!

Rachel said...

I quit watching J&K months ago, and was well aware of Kate's behavior long before that. It was just tolerable due to the cuteness of the kids. Eventually, Kate's behavor became too much and while TiVo was still recording them, we'd usually just read the description of the episode and delete it. The new house episode earned them the three THUMBS DOWN on TiVo. We were in the living room with a recording from the DVR on, but not really watching it. When the show went off, TiVo switched to "live' TV, which was J&K. Kate was in the middle of telling the children how they are never, ever allowed in the bedroom. My fiance and I looked at each other, both with "WTF?" looks on our faces. Then, as much as I was used to Kate being... well, Kate... she did the unthinkable. She looked at Jon and yelled "SPEAK!!!" I promptly cancelled the "season pass", gave not one, not even two, but three TiVo thumbs down and told my fiance if I ever barked commands at him, he has my permission to sock me one in the mouth and leave.

Anyway, if fellow TiVo users weren't aware, TiVo will soon be selling info it records about your viewing habits. So be sure to give the thumbs down if you care. Even if TLC doesn't get the stats, I'm sure their sponsers will.

Unknown said...

I have been reading these comments for a couple of months and agree with most everything you have said. I used to be a fan of the show, but I started to wince everytime Kate started talking (yelling). I am watching the Kate Making Soup episode and during the couch interview Jon is talking about playing play-doh with the kids and how he made it look like snot was coming out of his nose. Kate says "Oh, you are an example, not a child." well Kate you act like a child but refuse to let your children act like children...what is that all about?

Jen said...

I just watched a rerun of Soup and Surprise, when Kate announced the new house, she said that Leah and Hannie were sharing a room and Alexis had a room to herself because she was a "disturber." When did she stop disturbing? I really would love to get inside Kate's head and see why Hannah is so darn special to her.

Anonymous Mom said...

I believe we saw you "Ponce" at her most recent Florida booksigning. I'd like to know how to locate the Blog someone mentioned seeing where the fan Blogger had attended the Florida book signing and posted all sorts of pictures online of her children too.

As to their tv show I'll say this - I've always thought she should have a softer approach not only to the children but to Jon. I'll never know her reality so to judge how she "runs" things would be mute. I will add that as a professed Christian she certainly makes no apologies for how she is (attitude and tone). It's a "take me or leave me attitude" when as a Christian we ARE called to actually BEHAVE better when we KNOW better. There is no reason she can't overcome her self-acclaimed type A personality.

As for the book signing experience I'll say this - I arrived with my two young children at 3:00 for a signing that would begin at 5:00pm. Just as Kate prepared for her task(s) we did too: made sandwiches and baggies of fruits/veggies to stave off starving tummies, bought a book for HER FAMILY as a gift my children came up with the idea from one Christian Family to another to have as a family read-a-loud, arrived two HOURS early, decided to buy Multiple Bles8ings but was guilt into buying the other too to make sure she'd sign SOMEthing we had.

When we were second to approach my children were BARKED at by a gruff man in a black shirt manning the line to "GO!". To which I stated "Listen, these are children. Children, as with many here, who've been here already for two and a half hours. They do not deserve your tone!"

One child happily approached her while myself and second child followed suit. She briefly smiled at the first, signed her name, reached for the second book from second son - who placed our gift upon the table saying "We bought your family this book" to which she picked up, flipped through, handed to a person in her entourage, claiming "I think I read that" with NO THANK YOU, NO mere glance upward to my children - who - honestly were more excited to see her than myself!

Now, NO GOOD mother I've ever met would slight children in this way. I'm mo fanatic forcing my children to make a connection with her. Their interestis due to their children. Children enjoy watching other children.

A college student behind us had a Flat Stanley for her cousin that Kate HAPPILY OBLIGED a picture for - NO hesitation!

She needs to read her own book Multiple Bles8ings, remember that just as she and Jon have CHOSEN to open their home and lives to the world - so too - have WE opened our homes and hearts to embrace their family.

Some of her proclaimed "humility" "grace" "respect" she speaks of in her books would serve her well if she really OWNED those traits!

She says all the time - it's who we are, the good, the bad, the ugly. She makes NO apologies, but really, she needs to find her knees and her spiritual Christian voice and uplift it to God and repent. I realize she doesn't care what others say of her - and true some very well may be jealous. I understand that, BUT a true Christian takes IT ALL in for review. You'd never know she is a Christian by her tv show.

We pray for her, Jon, and the children. One of the twins is severely acting out, they cater meals on taping days now, and Jon stays home while Kate does signings and appearances. Seems to me from her own mouth she enjoys what she's doing - ie: glad to be away from my home and family??? And now there's talk of them adopting a baby from Hawaii??? They need another baby like a hole in the head. She's not home for the ones they were challenged to have in the first place.

May God be with them!!!!

Arieslikekate said...

I, too, nearly fell through the floor when I read the "interview" with Queen Kate in the Detroit Free Press.. they interviewed her though emails?
C'mon, I bet Katie was at the spa and the nanny was writing those emails.
And $150 for Tea with the queen? Oh my - OFF WITH HER HEAD!!!

I emailed the writer of that story ASAP and told her to look behind the scenes.

Arieslikekate said...

I saw the family on the cover of another national magazine.

Boy the kids are growing up FAST and they all look so different.

Hope kate is saving that money for those college funds.

JShine said...

I just saw about the first ten minutes of the All Smiles episode, and stared at the screen shocked, at the comments she made about poor Mady's teeth. I sat there and thought for a minute, how would I feel if that was my mother saying that about me. Horrible.

ladylou said...

Just wondering what Queen Kate is going to do about her book signings now that we seem to be going through a swine flu outbreak.
Having the phobia about germs as she is always saying she has I would think she would remain indoors at all costs about now.

jill said...

They will be on for the 2009/2010 season...Good luck, kids! ;)

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/tlc-premiere-fifth-season-of-jon-&-kate-plus-8-on-may-25-8883.php

jonandkatewho? said...

You know, I just can't buy the story about the adoption. It would surely surprise the hell out of me if that woman actually wanted to adopt another child now.

She appears to be all about public appearances now, and wants a talk show. Why on earth would she adopt a child? Why would Jon allow it? It would be madness in that household to add another member to degrade and ignore.

I can't understand it unless she really does have some kind of a baby addiction. She's far too busy and too uninterested in the kids she already has to want more.

Unless she's afraid she'll be alone in her old age from being such a witch to her family and wants another child as "insurance"...I just don't see that happening. If anybody allows these two idiots to adopt a baby then the whole world has gone mad.

itcouldhappen said...

ladylou said...
Just wondering what Queen Kate is going to do about her book signings now that we seem to be going through a swine flu outbreak.
Don't worry - I think the swine would decline to infect her as a professional courtesy.

Kari said...

I agree with what people have said about sheeple being "in love" with the Gosselin children. I think that's sick. Of course, I can't say much, cause I'm in love with Adam Lambert...lol. Well, that might be a bit different :)

Adults should not obsess so much over children that are not theirs.

Willow #1 said...

I so agree with the poster that is in disbelief about the idea of an adoption. It has me totally shocked. But then, the more we say we are shocked, the more Queen Freebie Irene will want one, just to spite us!! Does she really think nine will be LESS exhausting than eight? Can they transfer the show to the SciFi channel?

Gossip Gal said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jon-and-kate-dad-caught-with-other-woman-2009284

Gossip Gal said...

Jon and the Other Woman on US Magazine cover

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jon-and-kate-dad-caught-with-other-woman-2009284

Donna said...

Regarding the sleep schedule of the kids, I believe they go to bed at 7:30, or at least did a year or two ago, and I'm sure they (especially Alexis, the "disturber") woke up much earlier than 8:30, but Queen Kate couldn't get her royal ass up any earlier than that. So poor Jon had to get the twins ready and deal with any straggling sextuplets before Kate got up. (with her hair freshly spiked and make up slathered on!). Oh, but now that she runs on the treadmill (with a personal trainer, I'm sure) every morning, things are a little different.
The point of this post, however, was to state that their night time schedule seems pretty normal to me. Every toddler I know goes to bed between 7:30 and 8:30 and most wake up in that 6-8 AM timeframe. HOWEVER, the nap thing is absolutely ridiculous. I know 1 year olds who sleep less than that in the afternoon. Kate herself even acknowledges that they don't sleep anymore so what in the world is the point of that?? Just stick them in their bedrooms so we can have some quiet time. Sorry Kate, but if you wanted "quiet time" (aka 2/3 of your day), you shouldn't have had children.

I was also enthralled by this tidbit in her "email interview" with the Detroit Free Press:
"Jon and I both work very, very hard on our show. It is more than a 40-hour workweek for each of us. ... not only the filming part, but all the e-mails, scheduling, prep, cleanup, etc."
Thats not a 40-hour workweek, Kate. Minus the emails, its called PARENTING. You just happen to have cameras with you for 3-4 days of the week. Why can't the rest of us get millions for being parents??

Donna said...

Regarding the article in US weekly. I think the whole story is ridiculous. Jon is not cheating on Kate, I'm sure he was being completely faithful and honest in that emailed answer.
The saddest part of that story was where it said Kate was in Bellevue Washington promoting Eight Little Faces. Thats nice. Who is raising those kids????

Snerk said...

Oh poor, poor Kate that it's a tough job. How does she think the kids feel? If it's a job for Kate it's a job for the kids.

Must go check out the magazines tomorrow. Could the tide possibly be turning?

Gracie said...

I was looking around on lilsugar.com and came across some recipes courtesy of Kate. She actually gives us a recipe for peanut butter and banana sandwiches! It's as if she invented them! Sorry Kate, but Elvis was eating them long before you "invented" the recipe.

http://www.lilsugar.com/2114812

Wendy Bird said...

From the US article:

"Hey, babe! Babe! Give me my jacket!" before climbing into his Nissan Nismo. (She complied.) As cameras began snapping, he panicked, urging his female friend to "get in the car!" before speeding off hastily -- without even turning on the headlights.Does this mean that the paparazzi are now in Wernersville, PA? Very interesting.

Annie said...

I don't think it matters if Jon cheated or not. The kids pay the price as usual. This really SUCKS! Well they certainly will get another million viewers this new season.

laura linger said...

Here's The King's recipe for peanut butter and mashed nanner sandwiches. No joke...they are absolutely heavenly, they are so delicious.

http://splendidtable.publicradio.org/recipes/main_pbsand.html

And sometimes, if Elvis just wanted an extra bit of grease, he would include bacon slices in the sandwich and fry up the whole thing in bacon grease! I can't advocate that, but the original recipe is so delicious. Comfort food at its most comforting.

Anonymous said...

Well, I think Jon was right. The show is over.

You know, I watched a special once, on discovery or one of them, about a really obese woman, named "Christie". She was single, sweet, and lived for her daughter. She didn't have much money, and her pastor's wife helped her out much of the time. They were very good friends. She said she loved Jesus and just wanted to get thin "for her daughter".

She got the bypass, and lost all her weight. She was very pretty, and she started going to bars, and going home with guys....leaving her daughter with grandma, and others. She and the pastor's wife had a falling out, and I think she lost her daughter. Last I remember she was drunk and screeming at the camera.

In the Bible Paul asked God to remove his problem, and God said no.

I think that struggles are good for us. Sometimes we are much happier when we have them, we just don't realise it!

"May you get what you wish for", is an old Chinese curse...folks we have seen it in the Gosselins.

Lord please help the children.

Anonymous said...

Well, here is another lie of Jon's. He always said he would do "anything" for his kids.

How about staying home, and acting like an adult MAN?

ICExploitation said...

Didn't Jon also say "he doesn't lie... normally"?

Bella said...

So regardless of whether jon is straying or not. Just WHY in the world would jon go out late at night to talk to a bar owner, then leave with a "friend" because she wanted to see his car. I would not be cool with that even it was my boyfriend. Even without kids in the equation that is shady, throw in the fact he's got kids at home while his wife is thousands of miles away. I suppose the "not nanny" was watching them as they slept considering it was LATE AT NIGHT.

Jeesh, really it will be rather amazing the fans explanation of this. And I agree with the last post about getting his pics snapped. Are the paps following him in PA now? Or have the locals finally endured enough crap from these two and are exposing them. I was shocked they had the whole cover of the magazine. Someone made a lot of $$$ selling those pics and you bet if I saw him out and about with his NEW sports car at a bar late at night I would be snapping pics of him too. His KIDS paid for that damm new car, and their multi-million dollar home and the spoon-fed crap about how they are just a big-sized family doing it the best they can. Give me a break. I predict by the end of the year Keight and TLC will be blown out of the water. As usual those kids will suffer the most.

Imagine being mady/cara at school and someone tells them they saw their mom & dad's "wedding" pic on a tabloid magazine at the grocery store with the label OTHER WOMAN below it. God. Even if keight say it's all crap, for that alone they should end the show.

beachluvin said...

So Kate's plan of buying Jon a sports car to keep him happy and at home didn't work out so well. Boo Hoo!

Though I dont condone his behavior, I really don't blame him.

Poor kids.

Anonymous said...

Guess it might have been a good idea to read some of those critical emails and articles, Gosselins.

Jon, going out in the middle of the night, getting drunk, and scoring with some young woman doesn't make you a real man. It makes you a real creep.

A real man would cancel the show, get the cameras and "helpers" out of the house, and not allow his children to be used for financial gain ever again. Get a court order if you have to. Stop drinking. Stop clubbing. Get a job. Work hard. Get on your knees and pray for forgiveness, deliverance and guidence. Go to your family and friends and ask their forgiveness...even without your wife, just do the right thing. It is what a real MAN would do. Tell them you were wrong, and that you want them in your life again. A man would be surrounded by family. Take the kids to visit their grandparents, and all the people they knew and loved, but who have been cut out of their lives.

A real man does what is right for his family. He protects his family. He is strong for his family.

Go to counseling with the wife--or without her. You have been through a lot, and need some help to deal.

This is where that committment thing comes into play. You promised God, your friends, your family, yourself and your wife, that you would work out your problems. Listen, you promised to LOVE your wife until you died! Why do you think it is in the vows, if it just happens? It doesn't. You have to MAKE yourself do it! A real man does.

A real man puts the needs of his family before his own desires. Be a real man. You have no idea how good it will make you feel. step up. You are a strong guy. You can do anything, and you can change your life for the better, or really, really ruin it and 8 little lives, who never asked to be brought into this world. YOU brought them into this world, made money off them, you owe them! It isn't fair to torture them and hurt them.

You are not living a purpose driven life. Call some godly men and get some support. Do it for the kids.

The kids don't deserve the parents you and Kate have become. Fix it. You have that power.

Willow #1 said...

lindahoyt 4/28/09 9:48 p.m.
Your post was so beautiful, so perfect and so true, it moved ME to tears!!! If only he would!!!! His wife and his children would probably adore him!

Dear Jon said...

Bravo Linda! I totally agree. Jon, if you're reading this PLEASE take Linda's advice to heart. You can change this....

Reading news said...

Donna said...
"Regarding the sleep schedule of the kids, I believe they go to bed at 7:30, or at least did a year or two ago, and I'm sure they (especially Alexis, the "disturber") woke up much earlier than 8:30, but Queen Kate couldn't get her royal ass up any earlier than that. So poor Jon had to get the twins ready and deal with any straggling sextuplets before Kate got up. (with her hair freshly spiked and make up slathered on!). Oh, but now that she runs on the treadmill (with a personal trainer, I'm sure) every morning, things are a little different."


Donna:

Do you think the trainer might be a good looking white haired guy aka The Bodyguard?

Maude said...

According to the advertising agency my husband works for, OFFICIAL t.v. ratings are still based on Nielsen diaries only.

Tivo and DVR are not used for ratings numbers. But I did read that Tivo is going to get into the ratings game soon.

Internet hits are not counted, but I have to believe they are taken into consideration by the networks.

There is no data base keeping track of what shows you are watching from your cable/satelite box.

That said, I still play it safe and only check out J&K on a t.v. in my home that is cable ready, not hooked up to the cable box. I don't want to take the chance that TLC might be able to count me as a "fan". Yech!

Tony said...

Excellent post Linda. It would be great if your message could be sent directly to Jon--even if by snail mail. He needs to hear every word of it and NOW.

Donna said...

Perhaps, Reading!! ;)

Donna said...

I think what bothers me most about these people is that they act like they are struggling just like the rest of us. I don't have a problem with rich people, I really don't. I agree that the way they got rich was a bit unorthodox. But at least own up to that richness!! Coupon-gate was the PERFECT example of that. "You spent fifty dollars?" Oh, out of the millions you have? Get over it.

alana said...

Anonymous Mom,

I read your post about taking your two little children to Kate's book signing. The entire experience sounds like a nightmare! In addition to bringing a gift, you put so much time and effort in to just getting there. The "handler" who shouted at your child was out of line; I think your response was that of a good mother and certainly appropriate. How sad when Take grabbed the gift from your child's hands without any acknowledgment. It sounds like your expectations for a happy outing with your children could not have been more unfounded.
It's disappointing when I plan on something to turn out well and then the reality is nothing like I'd hoped for, sometimes even counted on. I then remind myself of this invaluable lesson:

I can't live someone else's reality.

Just because I think he or she or it SHOULD be a certain way, doesn't guarantee it.
"We can't control the wind, but we can direct our sails."

(I apologize for not citing the author.)

If you continue reading here at GWoP, you'll soon realize you're not alone in your experience of Take's "the good, the bad, and the ugly..." The children are usually good...she is ALWAYS bad and ugly!

Cinderella said...

I have never posted here before but i was reading TWoP this morning and thought you guys would be interested in this. They have a slideshow on the worst human beings on reality TV and Jon and Kate were included. Here's the link:
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/the_real_world_road_rules_chal_1/worst_human_beings_on_reality.php

gosselinfan said...

Does anyone know what happened to Colins hand? On the new cover of Ladies Home Journal it looks like he has either a bandage or cast.

swissmiss said...

Don't bother paying $2.99 for the 4/27 "Life & Style" someone mentioned because of an article about Jon and Kate and the possibility of adopting a baby.

Most of the article was the standard 'canned' stuff churned out by press agents everywhere.

As to any chance they will adopt a baby, Kate's response was, "You'll have to watch the show to learn that answer." That's really pushing the envelope, Kate.

In another section of the article that discusses possibly adopting a Hawaiian baby, Kate merely states, "There could be a very exciting trip in our future...we possibly will be going back to Hawaii to visit." Perhaps they will actually take some time to sit down with Jon's Hawaiian relatives in depth? Nah.

Hawaii is part of the U.S. and any agency even thinking about possibly giving them a child has heard of these two money-grubbing adults.

My nephew is a Korean adoptee. His wife is a social worker and said that Korea has really tighted up regulations on adopting and there is no chance the Gosselins could get a baby from Korea.

MBach said...

I can not state unequivocally that all cable and satellite stations can "count" each tv tuned into J&K+8, but Direct TV is our carrier. At any time during the day, I can push the Active button, and it will show the most watched programs to the moment.

If they can do that, then they can report those numbers to advertisers, and that supports the continuation of the program.

You may continue watching J&K put their children on display, but don't think you are doing it in secret.
Joke: Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean you aren't being followed. :o)

Also, don't believe that all those hits on all those websites are of no matter to the networks.

Every person that comes to this website and says -I just watched this episode or another, I just went to this website-go there, I went to a book signing, I went to see them, I drove by their house. then YOU are being counted in some way.
Maybe Jon's job now is to "count" how many responses or hits their show gets, and turn that information in to their agent. ;o)
They don't care why you watch or what you say, but they care what you do.

Any notice - tune in to love them - OR - tune in to hate them -
You are out there as a nameless face, watching, watching, watching.

I say tune them out, and turn them OFF! For good!
For good. The good of the Gosselin kids, all those kids on TLC, and all those other shows too numerous to list.

Come on this website, and say I WILL NOT WATCH! Go on others, if you must, but say I WILL NOT WATCH! Don't go to TLC or Discovery and say -Gee, I wish Kate was nicer. -say instead -I WILL NOT WATCH!

Open your window, stick out your head, and yell -I WILL NOT WATCH!

My5blessings said...

rissapa219 WROTE:

But what I do know is that when you are in the "buisness" you are told to seek out financial advise. And when there are children involved they usually make sure there is one. To insure that the children are getting their money. That is with any child actor. Though the parent is custodial, the children are entitled to their money.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I'll try this once more only commenting on the most important issue.

You call these children "actors."

Please remember, these children are just that-- children. They are NOT actors.

Actors go to work, and come home to security without cameras inside their homes and most intimate moments being filmed for the World to see.

As far as money set aside. None of us know this, not you nor I for certain.

I took nothing you said personal. I realize everyone has their own opinions, although I disagree and do strongly believe these and all the other children in these so called reality shows deserve protection they are not being afforded at this time...

itsover said...

kate left the book signing in WA on 4/18 early...she must have gotten wind of jon during it. sad.

just throwing it out there said...

only Neilson families count towards actual ratings

kansas05 said...

and that plane she had to catch? yeah...that wasn't planned she hopped that plane to get back home asap to catch jon boy in the act.

Rachel said...

I, too, cannot speak for other cable providers or DVRs, but we use TiVo DVRs. We were informed last week that TiVo will begin selling information about your TV watching habits, I believe next month. I could be wrong about the start date, but they will begin doing it. You are given the ability to opt out of this on their website, but I don't want to. I'd rather somebody out there know what I like and don't like. Actually, before the press release, I always just assumed they did anyway.

Carol said...

Found this verse and thought it was kinda funny (although the situation overall saddens me). Anyhow, posted it under Jon's new car, but it's really more appropriate here. Makes me think of him living above the garage in his "crib".

Proverbs 21:9 (New Living Translation) 9 It’s better to live alone in the corner of an attic than with a quarrelsome wife in a lovely home.

Shame on KONS said...

Bravo Linda! This should be a post in itself.

TandLMommy28 said...

Hey I just was watching 18 Kids and noticed that the commercials for J&K no longer say "America's Favorite family." They have been demoted to "one of America's favorite families." Cool :)

3angelsmom said...

(window open, head out) I WILL NOT WATCH!!!

MBach: was that loud enough for you? :)

I agree, even if no one is "officially" counting YouTube hits, blogs, etc. it will ultimately count in some way b/c it fuels interest. The best things we could do for the children are to ignore the show & target the sponsors.

SoSuzMe said...

re: what states we hail from-north carolina ..!

Snerk said...

only Neilson families count towards actual ratingsNot since the advent of DVRs. :)

Tangering Tanya said...

Maude asked what states are we all from?

New Mexico here. No not Mexico.

I know this is an old post but I cant seem to locate the youtube video of Kate getting mad @ Jon for letting the kids watch televison. Anyone?

Donna said...

Tangering:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOn2WnNl-y0

This is the one with the fake but funny bleeps.

K8theNotSoGr8 said...

Speaking of Nielson, I'm participating in one of the paper surveys (where you fill out the booklets) in a couple weeks. Gotta make sure I abstain from any guilty (dis)pleasure J&K+8 watching!

A friend of mine from college, who I'm not very close with now but have in my Facebook friends, attended the event in Raleigh last week with K8. She said she wasn't very friendly (I'm shocked), but didn't really go into detail. She posted a few pics & WOW. She REALLY needs to lay off the tan-in-a-can, her teeth are way too white, and her hair- no words. I also noticed there is a man standing behind her who has almost the same bleached blonde hair color as her. Not sure who he is. There is also a policeman standing guard right next to the table where she's sitting. And there's a stack of headshots of K8 on the table. I assume those are the pics one gets for their $20 contribution, though 1 pic shows her slipping the autographed pic into someone's 8 Exploited Faces book.

I live in NC too, but along the coast rather than near Raleigh. Needless to say I wasn't going to make the 2-hour drive to see the blonde porcupine nest in person.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Thanks Donnna but I just cant seen to understand what that letter or symbol is AFTER the N and in between -yO

zoey said...

i was in the dentist office today and read their copy of Home Journal with the Gosselin.
I thought it was interesting that Kate and Jon said the dog was named after the security guard that they hire WHENEVER THEY ARE IN HAWAII
how many times have they been?
strange statement if they have only been there once..... anyone know anything about this

Wendy Bird said...

I am little late answering the what state/province are you from question, but I am from lovely state of Florida having recently relocated from Chicago.

Anonymous said...

omg.....I just saw the preview for the Wednesday night reruns of our loathesome twosome (plus 8).....TLC totally did a voiceover on Kate when she finds the gum on the socks. Where we earlier heard "WHO WOULD GIVE YOU GUM??!!??!!"...we now hear (insert sing song voice here)"who would give you gum?"....I cannot believe TLC does this stuff!!!!!

Joey said...

Also Abbey, re: tups in the beds, they are still napping at almost 5 years old. That's a bit unusual. Anyway, my daughter wanted to watch today as she is home sick and it was an older one. The episode where they go to Dutch Wonderland. Its amazing how they have changed! Kate's hair/makeup looks normal and she's not orange. Jon had receding hair and they seemed much happier. More loving with the kids. It reminded me why I liked the show at first. She was a relatable SAHM. Whether she really had a lot of help/free stuff at that time didn't matter to me as it seemed like a good portrayal of a SAHM with a lot on her hands.

Re: all the Jon stuff. I hope its all rumors for the kids' sake. Its hard enough to have all your baggage aired, but then to find out your dad is regressing to a frat boy is even more embarassing.

Re: parent blogging: I read some parent blogs and I thought about starting one too. It seemed like a nice virtual support for SAHMs. HOwever, I saw the Oprah with the guy who talked about internet pedophiles and what not and I proceeded to take every picture of my kids offline. Scary stuff. I think writing is one thing (keeping names anonymous and what not). Posting pics is another. I would be very careful about positng pics of kids.

zoey said...

I dont think it matters weather jon was cheating or not. (well, it does but i mean as far as the kids are concerned)
His face is now plastered on Magazines in all the stores with a picture of another woman. The kids are too young to decipher dad hanging out with a friend vs. a girlfriend.
they surely will have lots of questions for mom and dad but no matter what organic bologna kate gives them, they will have the photo images in their heads.

my9cats said...

rissapa219 WROTE:
fyi- Kate does have a relationship with her family.

4/28/2009 11:42 AM

Yeah, an imaginary one.

MBach said...

Yes, and thank you 3Angelsmom. I can hear you calling out "I WILL NOT WATCH!
all the way to Illinois. My home state.

Two birds with one posting. :)

K8TERH8TER said...

Take this for what it is...RUMOR, BUT...I just read on a site that John "left" Kate the beginning of February. He's rumored to be living with his mom and stays in the little apartment over the garage during show taping days. It also says that he is planning on divorcing Kate as soon as this current 1 yr. contract with TLC is up. He has no problem with Kate traveling since they cannot get along anymore and it's best to be apart. Who knows what to believe, but it would make sense of a couple of things...Jon's comment about "his crib" and the valentine's cards for the kids signed only with Kate's name. Regardless if the rumor is true or not, there is no doubt in my mind that the marriage will end up in divorce eventually if the Gosselins continue to live life the way they are living it now. Those poor kids.

Genisee said...

I watched a rerun the other night in which Kate is taking the twins (6 at the time I think)for professional head shots because she's always wanted them to be on camera. So since she couldn't get them in front of a camera, she brought the cameras to them? Talk about a stage mom!

Found a Scary Blog! said...

I just totally accidentally stumbled upon a site/blog that seemed ok at first, (gal went to a Hate signing), but I soon realized was a "Sheeple" when I saw the "comments" she got; how "Amazing" it was she "got to meet Kate" etc blah blah Then i saw her referred to as "BabyMama"! Isnt that the one you all have mentioned on here??? And SHE says people on GWoP are weird??? At least I do not have MULTIPLE PICTURES OF ***OTHER PEOPLES' KIDS** POSTED ON MY SITES OR PAGES!!! WTF?? Talk about strange, obsessed, and having NO LIFE! Live thru others at all, BabyMama?? Hey, are you even a MAMA?? IE: do you have kids OF YOUR OWN???? What a loser.

2badsosad said...

"fyi- Kate does have a relationship with her family."

A 'family' that consists of her body gaurd, stylist team, personal assistant, PR and her part time children.

marylou said...

Concerning Kate's schedule, the 700 club is showing Monday, May 11. But it doesn't list it as "live" as it does other people. I have never seen the show, but it appears from their calendar that some interviews are live, while others are taped, as it appears Kate's is. Also, you can view an interview with her on their web site here:

http://www.cbn.com/700club/guests/interviews/jonkate_plus8103008.aspx

Anonymous said...

"where does everyone live?".......I'm about 10 minutes from our favorite couple themselves. Ugh

LB said...

I’m wondering if anyone realizes that however Kate presents herself to the public at her book signings, speaking engagements, whatever may be just an act because she acts totally different when she is with her family on filming days? Anyone ever notice that? I’ve been wondering about that for a while now after I read some of the posts from people who went to see her and I think it’s possible she is just acting in order to sell her books and pick up more cash. That must be why they think she is so awesome. Perhaps she has two different personalities? One for the public so they would fall for her and the mean/nagging personality around her family; does that work like an on/off light switch?

Lala said...

The Morning Show w/Mike and Juliet(5/1), discussed the US Weekly article AND Juliet said how NOT NICE Kate was when they were on the M&J show. Juliet also called Jon "Sammy Sour-puss" (or something to that effect) based on how he was in their greenroom at the show. Mike said he told them during the interview on the show that they didn't seem to like eachother very much.

That pretty female judge that ususally comes on w/Geraldo on the M&J show to discuss things, were on when this Jon and Kate discussion was had. She said she thought it was total exploitation of their children to have this show and that they need to get their own careers.

I dare say the Jon and Kate facade is cracking, big time!

cdnmsmom said...

OMG, I just finished watching 'Jon and Kate "ugly moments" from each season on Youtube....my stomach is just SICK from watching all of that abuse condensed together.

What in the world is it with that woman that she has to over-dramatize every moment and constantly worry about 'messes'. I swear that these kids will be in intense therapy during their adult lives because of the damage she's done. It truly just breaks my heart....

As a mom I know that my kids were happiest when they were getting dirty..lol...playing in mud, playing with bugs, getting messy with ice cream...it was just a joy to see. It's so sad that these children will never experience that - that they will probably become OCD and be constantly washing their hands to make sure they're clean!

What gets me, too, is that if it were Jon speaking to her and the children in that abusive way there would be a HUGE outcry from the media...because she's a woman doing the abuse, it's not such a big deal....that to me is just WRONG!!

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6454349132986954975&postID=32957342002704448 said...

I said this all along...there is NO amount of money that would convince me to subject my kids to be on the cover of tabloids OR Good Housekeeping! I might cheat on this woman too! The only thing Kate cares about is her appearance, money, and fame. THe kids are somewhere down her list or she wouldn't still be doing this. Jon is just the sperm donor at this point. Good Housekeeping and Oprah try to tout them as just like everyone else...trying to be a family and struggling with day to day life. HA! Why didn't Good Housekeeping ask them what has happened to their friend Beth and their Aunt Jodi? Hard hitting interview, huh? I no longer watch the show..it's disgusting to think this pair has made so much money off of us.I could pop out 8 kids if I wanted to but that doesn't make me a wonderful MOM or how does she do it Mom! This woman should be dumped off of every book tour and television show and every church speaking. There is nothing to learn from her except "how to justify leaving my kids several times a month and not caring if they are on the cover of Star magazine." You've been duped if you're standing in a line to get her autograph.

Pat said...

What is it that Jon wants to do? He didn't want the show to go on for another season, he doesn't like Kate going on speaking/book tours but what does he want to do? Does he want all of them to stop everything? And then what? Would they live off the money they already have or get from reruns etc.? Does he think he would like to downsize the house and get a job to support them? I don't see him as having any special passion or bent toward getting more education (of course, I really don't know how much he has) or learning something new.
I can't imagine them getting a divorce and him getting custody. He doesn't seem to be able to handle that.
What do you think he wants besides women, a sports car, drinking, snowboarding, skiing and roller skating.
What does he want to happen do you think?

Addison said...

I just totally accidentally stumbled upon a site/blog that seemed ok at first, (gal went to a Hate signing), but I soon realized was a "Sheeple" when I saw the "comments" she got; how "Amazing" it was she "got to meet Kate" etc blah blah Then i saw her referred to as "BabyMama"! Isnt that the one you all have mentioned on here??? And SHE says people on GWoP are weird??? At least I do not have MULTIPLE PICTURES OF ***OTHER PEOPLES' KIDS** POSTED ON MY SITES OR PAGES!!! WTF?? Talk about strange, obsessed, and having NO LIFE! Live thru others at all, BabyMama?? Hey, are you even a MAMA?? IE: do you have kids OF YOUR OWN???? What a loser.
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If BabyMama does have a family, I feel very sorry for them. She probably spends more time concentrating on the Gosselins than on her own children. Very, very weird.

not a fan said...

Addison said…

At least I do not have MULTIPLE PICTURES OF ***OTHER PEOPLES' KIDS** POSTED ON MY SITES OR PAGES!!! WTF??


That was exactly what I was thinking the first time I went to BabyMama’s site! I even wondered if she had them up in her house too! It’s weird to have other people’s children pasted all over as if she is their #1 fan. She must have spent A LOT AND A LOT time to google for shots of a reality-TV family and some pictures I don’t know where she got them from because they obviously were taken on a regular photo camera. I also wonder if she is the owner behind some of the videos we see on youtube, you know the ‘tribute’ videos to individual children or whatever. They were snippets and clips from the show so obviously that had to be time-consuming to transfer images from DVD or videotape to create it. She must have more time than I do to hang around a computer and do all this work.

I also read on one of BabyMama’s posts that she was at the same hotel that night Jon was alleged to have kissed another woman. Whoa! How is that for a coincidence that she was there? Or did she make it up to defend Jon. Whatever. Does she stalk them or what?

AZPK said...

Where are we all from?

ARIZONA.

It struck me as strange when K said that her dad never finished projects and that the house was always torn apart (or something like that). My Dad was a preacher and we lived in the rectory - any "projects" that needed to be done were done by the church - they either hired someone or the church members got together to do it. Just struck me as strange.

yeaisaidthat said...

What is it that Jon wants to do? He didn't want the show to go on for another season, he doesn't like Kate going on speaking/book tours but what does he want to do? Does he want all of them to stop everything? And then what? Would they live off the money they already have or get from reruns etc.? Does he think he would like to downsize the house and get a job to support them? I don't see him as having any special passion or bent toward getting more education (of course, I really don't know how much he has) or learning something new.
I can't imagine them getting a divorce and him getting custody. He doesn't seem to be able to handle that.
What do you think he wants besides women, a sports car, drinking, snowboarding, skiing and roller skating.
What does he want to happen do you think?

5/01/2009 9:33 AM

IMO, he wants to go back in TIME when he wasnt obligated to anyone or responsible for anything but WANTED for everything !
The sad part is. The 8 Gosselin children didnt come in to this world wanting for a life of 'reality tv' and 'celebrity status' it was imposed upon them at the hands of their parents. If Daddy Gosselin cant seem to come to grips with the stress and pressures that come with, does any one (including TLC and its producers) EVER think for one second the mental, emotional, and physical affects all this nonsense of 'the show is our life and life the show', tabloid scandel, tag team parenting has had on the children!? The selfishness and absurdity that is J & K Gosselin makes Octomom appear rather 'normal' on her worst day.
For God's sake. Grow up, take some accountability for once, be a parent and put the best interest of the children as a priority !!!

My5blessings said...

AZPK wrote:

It struck me as strange when K said that her dad never finished projects and that the house was always torn apart (or something like that). My Dad was a preacher and we lived in the rectory - any "projects" that needed to be done were done by the church - they either hired someone or the church members got together to do it. Just struck me as strange.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Certainly just my "thoughts" but I do not buy that story one bit.
I believe she said that to either invoke sympathy or in hopes of making yet another excuse for her competely inappropriate behavior.
You know, the old.... it was my horrible childhood that made me do it garbage.
I'm sure her parents are probably very lovely people, which is most likely why they refuse to come out and address any of the terrible things spoken by their so called daughter.
Eventually Kate and Jon both will have to take ownership for their actions.......
From the looks of things, it appears it will be sooner rather than later.

Reading news said...

AZPK said...
"Where are we all from?

ARIZONA.

It struck me as strange when K said that her dad never finished projects and that the house was always torn apart (or something like that). My Dad was a preacher and we lived in the rectory - any "projects" that needed to be done were done by the church - they either hired someone or the church members got together to do it. Just struck me as strange."

I think Kate's Dad must own the house they live on as it is part of a campground that they own near Hershey, Pennsylvania.

lilmamaD said...

oh my goodness ~ watched the youtube gosselins go green episode ~ Kate, you are certainly one hot mama now, one hot mess of a mama that is!!! Sorry could not help myself!! LOL Oh geez, someone commented on there "hope Kate's tanning bed is solar powered!" Almost fell out of my seat laughing!

lilmamaD said...

Ok, truly sad and heart-breaking for those innocent and precious children here admist all the crap going on. Just continued to watch Gosselins Go Green pt. 2 on YouTube and there's a part where little Leah is singing "I Could Sing of Your Love Forever", a pretty well-known Christian song and it made me start tearing up. I really pray they can realize what is most important and priceless in this life..

cdnmsmom said...

I'm from Nova Scotia, Canada but living in Ontario (Canada)for the past 22 years.

SpoiledMom said...

Jon and Kate's "marriage mess" has made it to HLN's Showbiz Tonight--Friday night @ 11pm EST/ 10pm CST.

Teaser:
Jon and Kate plus Jon's Date: Is Their Marriage Falling Apart Before Our Eyes???

This is going to be good....

Cynthia said...

Spoiled Mom,

That was good!

Jule said...

Baby Mama just refered to Kate as " MY KATE".....Very scary

Betsy in PA said...

I'm watching VH1's Best Week Ever - there was a spoof on about Jon and Kate. It's a fake intro to the show, mocking Kate's bitchiness and Jon's "escapades" recently. It plays on how their relationship is falling apart and how miserable they are. It's classic. I hope someone puts it on youtube... It's obvious what VH1 thinks of the Gosselins.

CentralPA said...

Has anyone seen this article? It's a few years old but I was not surprised when I read it...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400462/posts

My5blessings said...

Baby Mama just refered to Kate as " MY KATE".....Very scary
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
She is definitely someone they should fear.
I've seen her site when all the "cake" talk was happening. I wanted to see for myself.
She is a mixture of the movie "Misery" and "Fatal attraction"
I genuinely think she is unstable.
Wouldn't want her in my camp of "fans"

my9cats said...

My5blessings said...
Baby Mama just refered to Kate as " MY KATE".....Very scary
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
She is definitely someone they should fear.
I've seen her site when all the "cake" talk was happening. I wanted to see for myself.
She is a mixture of the movie "Misery" and "Fatal attraction"
I genuinely think she is unstable.
Wouldn't want her in my camp of "fans"

5/02/2009 10:08 AM

What's REALLY sick is BM claims to have been at Legends when Jane was. How sick is that. Does her husband know she astroplanes to be with KON?

Jacsamic said...

Boo Hiss Katie Irene and Jon, Boo Hiss

CALIFORNIA

Been reading all the posts....no question that the children are the victims who are paying for thier parents greed, immaturity and plain igonorance.

But, it dawned on me that I think, regardless of TLC and all that has come with it, these two morons would never have made it anyway. The only difference being in lieu of the twins being children of divorce, there will be the twins and the tups as children of divorce.

And, since I am a cup half full kind of person, at least there is some money, hopefully, for the childrens' future out of all of this so they will have at least some chance of getting the help they will all need to recover from their childhood.

Boo hiss Katie Irene and Jon. Boo Hiss.

Mostly a Lurker said...

So I guess they both showed up today at the PA Women's Show although Kate did most of the talking and they didn't mention the cheating allegations...

I'm a believer but said...

If what Kate and Jon say is true about God blesssing them with this and that then what do they have to say about their marriage falling apart? Is it their fault or is it God's will? What is it J/K ?

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