Free Discussion 4/25 - 5/1

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beachluvin said...

Oh my gosh....Jon and Kate made The Soup again. It's so funny....it's Kate talking about none other than herself on the couch...blah blah blah me me me um um um blah blah blah and then there's um me um um me and finally um um um me and Jon is just staring at the camera. He looks like he wants to kill someone (Kate). Then they show a few graphics in though bubbles in Jon's head, first graphic a noose....you get the picture!

stacina said...

I commented on the latest pro-gosselin blog. It actually went through and is up. But it won't be for long. I actually really didn't want it to post. I just wanted the moderator to read it. I am so shocked by how much they support Kate. What bothers me most is how they make Kate's behavior and actions okay by saying, "I would say/do that too!!" Eek! As if that makes it okay.

WB said...

I recently watched the episode "Mady's Special Day / Mady's Day Out" where Jon and Kate take Mady out for her special day.

I was interested to then come to the blog and see what people had to say about it, but there was not a particular discussion about the episode as there are for many of the newer ones. So I figured I would start one up to see what others thought.

I think this episode is VERY telling. Normally, in a non-Mady focused episode, she has three or four meltdowns throughout the course of the day.

On this day, even though she was the highlight of the episode and on the screen the majority of the show, she had perhaps one meltdown (though it was getting her ears pierced, understandable).

Even after coming home with the rest of the kids you could tell her special attention had her in a great mood and feeling loved. She is a sweet, loving, kid when she gets the proper attention, was incredibly talkative, just absolutely beaming the entire episode, and even ended it with saying, "This was the best day of my entire life!"

What is ironic to me is that she has been all over the country, been on the most luxurious vacations, been treated like a star, received every possible gift under the sun, and yet the best day of her entire life was getting her ears pierced and going to lunch with her parents. Pretty simple equation there as to what made it the best day of her life.

I was hoping to hear some comments on this from the rest of the blog members...

The episode can currently be viewed on youtube at the following address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gYY1QTOPwM

NCresident said...

Saw this in this morning's paper.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1500234.html

"Gosselin might be the mother of eight, but she also has other things that elevate her in the eyes of some Triangle women - fame, great clothes, a sleek figure, a big new house, cute kids, books that are best sellers and, thanks to her stardom, the means to stay home with her family and take them on expensive vacations."

Nina said...

Re WB:
Mady is a smart, strong willed child. If she were being parented by sensitive individuals, with an ounce of responsibility and some ethics she would thrive and accomplish much in her life. Her potential is clearly visible.

Sadly, her mother is narcissistic and motivated by finance and her newly acquired D-List celebrity status. Dad hasn't matured much beyond his 15th bithday so is incapable of offering the support and guidance Mady so desperately needs.

No child needs to be focused upon and highlighted as the, "problem child," as Mady has. Parents who would sign contracts allowing that are morally bankrupt.

I watched the clip you suggested and was also struck that a child who has had the benefit of so much would still see something so simple as, "the best day of my entire life,"

A simple activity, intimate time with parents, feelings of being seen and heard, feeling special. These are examples ofjust some of the things that kids need in order to thrive. Respect of their privacy and personal moments are needed as well.

J&K love to say the show is for the kids but any GOOD parent who has successfully raised one or more children through their many stages, including, and upto a healthy adulthood, knows that the show is all about elevating the parents financial holdings and pandering to a controlling, attention seeker's need to be front and center.

The tups are being developmentally stalled in order to prolong time on the stage that Kate has grown accustomed to. Jon lacks the ambition, motivation and maturity to make any decision that would defy Kate.

I shudder to think what the future holds for any and all of these poor children. They are innocent victims in a deadly game initiated by very dysfunctional parents and a corrupt network.

If any of the kids have the endurance and strength to pull through and be heard in time it may well be Mady. Her's or any of the other children's books would be the only books with a Gosselin name on it that I would purchase and read.

Nina said...

This is really just an add-on to my previous thoughts.

If Mady and the rest of the Gosselin children are not supported, helped and parented with far more compassion,respect, understanding, standards, values and ethics than we have seen over the last 4 seasons their names may well join the ranks of, Spears, Lohann, etc...

We have been privy to far more of the Gosselin's lives than the others. Children who are forced to preform and are overexposed become very vulnerable to uncountable issues and dysfunctions.

Their parental role models are appalling and lacking even the most basic levels of self accountability and insight.

When materialism becomes your God and money is your ruling incentive, It becomes far too easy to side step human needs in favor of a new car, talk show, or home upgrades...

I wish these children the best, but if a stand is not taken and situations and conditions changed for them, I fear the worst may find them in time.

SueM said...

WB:

Lots was said about the episode you watched (Mady's Day) but the focus of the discussions was not Mady's behavior. This time it was Kate melting down not Mady. This is the episode we call "Gumgate" because of the gum incident when they arrived at home. Aunt Jodi gave the kids gum which Jon and Kate had done a few times before. Colin got some gum on his comfort toy (a bear I think) and Kate had the meltdown of all meltdowns! She threw away the bear (or at least threatened to) leaving Colin in despair. She also called Aunt Jodi on camera and ripped her apart for giving the kids the gum. She ranted for a long time. SO yes, a lot was said as you had hoped but sadly Mady's day lost it's real focus thanks to Kate.

linda said...

Kate, needs to stop jetting all over the country, stop filming and focus on her kids.. Jon needs to head back to work, and Kate needs to focus on doing art projects with her kids, taking them out for special one on one time, and put them in after school activities and let them make friends..

These kids are going to be in therapy for a very very long time, if Kate does not stop thinking that she is entitled to everything.. I would love to see an episode where Jon has a poker night with the guys, or goes on a camping trip with them..

These kids don't need expensive trips all over the world, Kate your kids want to stay home, and they need to have friends.. They just want a normal life!!!!!!!!!!!

Nancy said...

I am not a Kate fan however I don't understand why Kate is supposed to be home "doing art projects" instead of Jon. As long as one of them is there at home, and one of them is working - why is it bad?

gherkin said...

Kate was in Raleigh yesterday at the Southern Women's Show. 1000 women paid to see her and another 200 were waiting for signed books or photos (according to the paper). Several of the women said they admire Kate's "patience with her children" and another thinks she should write her next book about all of the fun activities she does with her children. The women also talk about her faith in God. I think they are quite delusional. Ha

And Kate said the show will continue as long as she is breathing. Those kids don't stand a chance. They will be filmed until they are out of the house.

JoeyB said...

NC: Re/the article you posted
I read this and was amazed at the blind, starstruck view people have of her. Its like just because she is "Christian" therefore she's amazing. Couple of points I have:
1. The article mentions that people are impressed by her "open ended play" and "outdoor exploration" with the kids. With the "with" is not necessary. She opens the door and sends them out with camera people while she stays inside. This is not exactly my version of engaging your children. she is not thinking of expanding their minds or creativity, she doesn't want them in her hair (the style of which I still don't get)

2. She answers the question of a woman who is experiencing infertility by saying its up to God. Well, IMHO, that is science, not God.

It just astounds me. Its like a car crash. Its terrible, but I can't look away because I can't get my mind wrapped around the whole thing.

Thanks for posting the article.

bballfan said...

I just want to say that you should give Kate some credit! I mean I totally get where you all are coming from, don't get me wrong. But I just think that she does have EIGHT kids! I mean that can be stressful! She just has a very "unique" personality.

I guess Jon just got too big of an ego and descided "I'll have an affair!" Well I hope that works out for him!

MayDay said...

Speaking of gum..I wanted to post this earlier. On Table for 12, the younger children were having gum- something about taking it out of mommy's purse. No big deal with the gum..they spit it in the trash when they were done or ready to eat. Also the no dessert of you don't eat issue. The boy that was not allowed to have dessert took it into his own hands and got the munchkin himself when no one was looking. Not that it was right, but it was kind of funny. It gave me the feeling that the Hayes kids have some sense of problem solving, where as the Gosselins kids problem solve with their hands and hitting. I don't know if it was on purpose, but TLC is doing a good job of portraying some of the Gosselins issues through the Hayes family with a positive aspect on it.

WB said...

I do remember reading on here somewhere about the gum incident, and I certainly agree that it was a ridiculous, unwarranted meltdown by Kate.

It was somewhat unfortunate that that incident took place on the same episode as Mady's special day, as apparently it has overshadowed some of the issues with Mady that became so clear after she spent some quality time with her parents. That episode was one of my favorites, as it truly made me happy to see Mady grinning from ear to ear, unable to control her excitement and happiness. She was just so incredibly happy throughout the entire episode.

It was bittersweet though, as I suspect this is what Mady would be like all the time (or at least a lot closer to it) than when she doesn't get any attention like every other normal day. Such a drastic change.

WB said...

On another note, this is slightly more positive thought than many of the messages on here, but I thought I would share it anyway.

If there are any kids that would be able to overcome this sort of treatment and turn out to be normal, I feel it would be these kids. I have noticed (every episode) that the kids all love each other very, very, very much. The Tups love each other very much, Mady and Cara love each other very much, and the twins even love the little ones very much, even though sometimes they don't show it (could be the jealousy of the tups getting all the attention.)

But to me it seems like a good thing that each kid has at least one other kid their age who is going through the same thing they are. I guarantee Mady and Cara sit in their room at night and talk about how the show is affecting their lives, whether or not they like it, how much they hate doing photoshoots and interviews, etc. It is probably a halfway effective method for venting all the frustrations that come along with their lives. Just imagine if Mady was the only older one and didn't have Cara there to help keep her sane. She would have been absolutely done for by now. It's not like Mady can just sit down with one of the four year olds and have a complex discussion on how the show is affecting their lives. Likewise, when the tups get old enough to realize what is really happening, they will have each other to confide in, others of the same age to share their feelings and thoughts.

Obviously this does not justify what is going on, but it makes me feel a little bit better to realize that these kids will always be there for each other, and I think that will play a huge part in helping them to lead normal lives in the future.

KittenKatinCanada said...

I have always thought that Mady is a very bright little girl. She. like Cara, is a very sensitive child and seems to soak up any positive attention. Unfortunately, it usually comes from strangers passing through her life (the Good Houskeeping photo-shoot crew, her violin teacher, etc.) and not from her parents who have dismissed her as 'difficult'.

It's such a shame because when Mady's need for attention is addressed, she is a lovely, sweet girl.

VB Mom of 2 Boys said...

I noticed that the show got a "shout out" on the View earlier this week. Meghan McCain was guest co-hosting and mentioned that her mother watched the show. Sad to think that someone who could possibly make a difference is probably a sheeple.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

Gumgate is also the episode where we see little Mady standing up to Kate in defense of Collin and his bear. She looks so tiny but intent on speaking her mind. Hooray for Mady !!!

Vicki said...

I knew there was a reason I never liked Megan McCain.

grandee4 said...

Hi everyone, hope this is the right place to put this.
Even women in prison have Kate's hairstyle! I'm am watching WE channel, Women Behind Bars, and there's a woman on the show that has a shorter version of thet, whatever you call it, hairdo.
When I went to get color the other day at my hairdresser, there was a girl in the salon that haid the cut. It looked very good on her, I almost liked it.

MorganfromWV said...

So I just got done reading the article http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1500234.htm that NCresident posted and I am totally disgusted! They quoted Kate as saying ""It was God's timing, not my own," she said. "It was nothing I could force. He decides when it's going to happen. That's my advice. It just has to be that way.""
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? It is NOT God's time if you are doing fertility treatments you are forcing mother nature to work faster than "God's time"!
Kate makes me soooo mad! And the journalist who wrote the article did nothing but praise her!!!! And mentioned that women seek her out for parenting advice...I'm sorry but she is the last person I would ask for advice unless I wanted to know the easiest way to explote my children!!

Mykdsmomy said...

WOW...I'm glad I wasn't standing next to Kate when she gave this interview...I'm surprised the earth didn't just swallow her up for the lies that she told here:

http://www.freep.com/article/20090425/FEATURES01/904250337

Tanya G. said...

It is funny how the sheeples idolize Kate. Its also very sad. There are so many other wonderful women in the public eye that should be treated with that type of following and not Kate.

My mind goes to the one mother of the 1 hour show of Austim x6. Everyone praises Kate for raising 8 children; but I applaud the mother who raised 6 single birth children all with austim. I've been around children and adults with austim in all forms; its hard for them to express themselves and you really need to have patience to deal with outbursts.
I remember watching the show and the mother and the father were so kind and respectful to their children. They knew exactly what each one needed individually and they encouraged their children with postive manners instead of negative snips.

One thing that stands out was when the 6 year old girl, who was considered the one who suffered the worst, was dancing on the table. The mother just laughed and said it must be a sight for the neighbors. Also, when they were in the resturant and each child was either crying, jumping around or just being mellow. The parents just accepted it and kept on eating without screaming fits or bursting into panic attacks themselves. I often think about what Kate would have done if that was one of her kids. She probably have a major meltdown and make the kid sit in the corner. She would punish the child for the behavior instead of trying to gear her children towards a positive manner.

Kate got off lucky having 8 healthy children; especially with the tups who were more at risk. She acts like its such a burden that its neverending chaos in her home.

Its sad because you have one mother who has children who can communicate their feelings and needs to her; yet she REFUSES to listen. Then on the other spectrum you have another mother whose children can't communicate their feelings and needs and she seems to always have an open heart, mind and arms to them even if they can't express the same back.

If anything I think its the mother of the austim children who should be speaking to others about love, patience and motherhood. I think she should have a book, a mansion and luxuries that the Gosselins have. That family deserves that more than they do; its wrong on so many levels.

liarliarpantsonfire said...

So I just got done reading the article http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1500234.htm that NCresident posted and I am totally disgusted! They quoted Kate as saying ""It was God's timing, not my own," she said. "It was nothing I could force. He decides when it's going to happen. That's my advice. It just has to be that way.""
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? It is NOT God's time if you are doing fertility treatments you are forcing mother nature to work faster than "God's time"!
Kate makes me soooo mad! And the journalist who wrote the article did nothing but praise her!!!! And mentioned that women seek her out for parenting advice...I'm sorry but she is the last person I would ask for advice unless I wanted to know the easiest way to explote my children!!

I agree 100%. 'God' played absolutely NO role in Kate Gosselin pursuing and the fertility doctor that agreed to treat her because " it might take a long time ". !! If it were truly 'God's' timing it just may have taken Kate Gosselin 'a long time to get pregnant'. There is absolutely no indication of how long or short 'God's' time line would have been with respect to Kate becoming pregnant because she disregard God's time line and put her TRUST and FAITH in the hands of medical science and fertility treatments so it 'would take a long time'.

SueM said...

I finally broke down and watched the "Gosselins Go Green" episode. Kate is a very unhappy person. It is very clear in this episode. She tries to pass off her meanness by saying she's just joking but she's not joking, she's mean. I used to think that she really doesn't like Jon. But what I saw clearly in this episode is that Kate doesn't like men in general. She doesn't like her boys,she doesn't like Jon and she doesn't like anyone of the male gender. She has a very deep distrust of all men. She has been deeply let down and disappointed by men in her life and she takes it out on Jon and any other male who crosses her path. She stereotypes all men including her sons. She doesn't have high expectations nor does she have any respect for men. It's very sad. Poor Jon, he just happens to be the sucker she used as a sperm donor. She wouldn't be happy with any man she ended up with. Jon shouldn't take her behavior personally, it's not his fault.

It was also very clear that Kate is bored and unhappy about being home with her kids. She doesn't do anything with them. She doesn't seem to enjoy or appreciate any time she has with them. You would think that with all the time she's away from them, she would be so happy to have quality time with them. She could've had a few of the kids help her with her baking. She's not a happy person!!

3angelsmom said...

Great posts Nina!

Anne said...

The only episode (and I only have part of it) on my DVR is Mady's special day. My DD wants toget her ears peirced and was curious what happens so I had saved that part of the episode to show her. What stood out to me was, Kate had brought Mady's "comfy toy" a stuffed animal and it was in her handbag. Mady didn't want it taken out. Kate says to the camera something about I guess the stuffed toy is embaressing Mady. Mady is saying, "it is going to be dirty, we are going to have to wash it now" Mady was having a freak out because the toy was in the "germy mall" not because it was a baby toy. I was thinking how sad to have Kate pass down the OCD already.

Cloggersmom said...

Just wanted to say that I went to Books-A-Million in McDonough, Ga at 9am to get my ticket for the Kate signing at 1pm. The line moved very fast and Kate was a delight. She even asked me how I was doing. She is just beautiful in person!

SaNdY said...

I was very interested to read the article in the Detroit Free Press that 'mykdsmomy' posted because I live in the suburbs of Detroit and recently was laid off for the first time from my job that I've had for 19 years....not only was the article total b******t, (Kate is quoted as saying: 'I make every second with my kids count. It is a delicate balance between what needs to get done and giving the kids the love, time and attention they need.' WTF??) but to the right of the article, it gave the details to Kate's upcoming appearances in the Detroit area in May....does she or anyone close to her have any clue how badly this area has been hit economically? And yet, you can have 'Tea with Kate' for ONLY $150!!! Are you kidding me?? Who the heck in this area can afford that?? IMO, anyone that can afford $150 should be donating that money to those in this area who have just lost their job and will soon lose their home....

ThePaginator said...

I've posted there too stacina. Maybe they are getting bored with each other and they are finally allowing us to voice our opinions.

ThePaginator said...

But I just think that she does have EIGHT kids! I mean that can be stressful! Are you kidding me???
Don't tell me, six of those kids are the same age!! Wow, I guess that gives her all the right to be a miserable witch.

lindahoyt said...

WB, that episode is known as "gumgate" because of the way that Kate freaks out and treats Jodi, who had babysat ALL Kate's kids, for free....like a servant. She calls her up, and without even asking how Jodi's long day went; or thanking her for watching the kids...because of course Kate never goes to pick the kids up-- Jon does, even though it is Kate's brother's house; Kate snottily just commands "NO MORE GUM, PLEASE!" Then she torments Collin by saying she is going to throw his "beary away"...this woman has serious personality problems. She acts like the 4 year old! Mady was actually more calm and sane than her mother, and like a good big sister, put her arm around collin and stuck up for him----which is more than his dad has ever done for him!

liarliarpantsonfire said...

"There is absolutely no indication of how long or short 'God's' time line would have been with respect to Kate becoming pregnant because she disregard God's time line and put her TRUST and FAITH in the hands of medical science and fertility treatments so it 'would take a long time'.

For clarification, I would like to edit my above posted comment to correctly read:

There is absolutely no indication of how long or short 'God's' time line would have been with respect to Kate becoming pregnant because she DISREGARDED God's time line and put her TRUST and FAITH in the hands of medical science and fertility treatments 'just in case it WOULDN'T take a long time'.

yeaisaidthat said...

So Kate Gosselin uses the Bible as her 'guide' to parenting? So, Jon and Kate Gosselin parent their children according to the Bible except on filming days? Because per the request of TLC, the religious aspect their life is not the primary focus of the show??
How can a parent of eight children, who claims to use the Bible as their guide to parenting and not only a producer of a reality show but 'their life the show and the show their life' and over the course of how many seasons and nearly 100 aired episodes NOT one example of the pivotal role that the Bible plays with respect to how J & K parent their eight children . All the Altoid sucking and gum chewing in the world cannot mask the foul and insulting odor that continously emits from the mouth of Kate Gosselin!!!! It smells like a load of crap to me!

lindahoyt said...

SueM: I believe you are wrong about Kate. She would be happy, with a very strong man. Someone who was firm with her, and never let her take advantage of them. One can be firm without losing their temper, and Jon had better learn how to do that.

Kate stated on the show, that she always dated the "bad boys", before she met Jon. That is why. Bad boys are self-centered, and don't care about their girlfriend's feelings! Kate and women like her, need a man to take charge, and never allow her to call all the shots. Just like the child she is, she craves the security of someone who steps out in front, and takes over. Someone who tells her what to do, and will not allow themselves to be dominated. She only respects a man who is strong. The more Jon lets her walk over him, the more miserable she becomes! The harder he tries to be nice, and make her happy, the opposite will happen. She will get more unhappy, and mean. We have witnessed it.

If Jon wants to improve his life, he needs to watch the "Taming of the shrew"...He needs to get a job, tell his wife to take care of the kids; tell his wife that if he is going to fill the car with gas, she is going to give the girls their shower. When she yells at him...ignore her. If she demands that he do anything...never, ever do it. If she ever claps her hands and yells at him; throw cold water in her face. She needs to be hosed regularly with a hose.

No yelling Jon. Don't cheat on her, and validate her horrible behavior. Be above reproach. Do the right thing. Do not allow Kate to have temper tantrams in front of the children. Send her to time out....after throwing cold water in her face. I am not joking about that. It is an old treatment for temper tantrams, that works wonders. give it a go.

lindahoyt said...

Here is a blogger who went to see Kate on Friday....WE ARE NOT ALONE!

http://hughestriplets.blogspot.com/2009/04/book-signing-with-kate-gosselin.html

I think all this overexposure is going to accomplish everything this blog always wanted for the Gosselin family....she loses viewers everytime she goes out in public.

Good Grief said...

Just wanted to say that I went to Books-A-Million in McDonough, Ga at 9am to get my ticket for the Kate signing at 1pm. The line moved very fast and Kate was a delight. She even asked me how I was doing. She is just beautiful in person!

4/25/2009 11:53 AM
Blogger SaNdY said...

I was very interested to read the article in the Detroit Free Press that 'mykdsmomy' posted because I live in the suburbs of Detroit and recently was laid off for the first time from my job that I've had for 19 years....not only was the article total b******t, (Kate is quoted as saying: 'I make every second with my kids count. It is a delicate balance between what needs to get done and giving the kids the love, time and attention they need.' WTF??) but to the right of the article, it gave the details to Kate's upcoming appearances in the Detroit area in May....does she or anyone close to her have any clue how badly this area has been hit economically? And yet, you can have 'Tea with Kate' for ONLY $150!!! Are you kidding me?? Who the heck in this area can afford that?? IMO, anyone that can afford $150 should be donating that money to those in this area who have just lost their job and will soon lose their home....

----

There are all kinds of events happening in the Detroit area that have ticket prices of $100 plus (concerts, theater, etc.). Should all the people planning to attend those events not do so and instead donate their money? Seems to me that rationale would land even more people on the unemployment line.

lindahoyt said...

yeaisaidthat: As a Christian, I am personaly so happy that the show has never focused attention on the fact that these two say they are Christians. Because frankly, they give Christ a bad name. They exude everything Christianity and Jesus spoke against! Greed, pride, hypocrisy, selfcenteredness, anger, disrepect for one's husband, disrespect for one's parents, vanity, ungrateful attitude.

Their pastor should be fired!

lindahoyt said...

Oh, I found a gem! By a real counselor with a focus on childhood abuse, no less...you all HAVE to read this one! She is a Gosselin neighbor, and the mansion they bought use to be owned by the woman's obstetrician!

Recovery Recon

Marie France said...

Cloggersmom said...
Just wanted to say that I went to Books-A-Million in McDonough, Ga at 9am to get my ticket for the Kate signing at 1pm. The line moved very fast and Kate was a delight. She even asked me how I was doing. She is just beautiful in person!

________
Interesting perspective. Kate a delight? Kate just as beautiful in person? You must have seen another woman named "Kate."

Sharon said...

WB are we watching the same show. I just watched a rerun of Dutch Wonderland. Mady was kicking the heck out of Collin on the slide. I will say the Kate did tell her that if her foot touched him again she would be sitting on the bench for the rest of the day. In another episode when they took the kids to see the new house, mady was again kicking one of the girls who wouldn't get out of her room. Most of the shows I have seen, the kids are always hitting, and kicking each other. This is not OK, no matter what the reason. I don't see any love between these kids, it's every man for themselves.

overwithKON said...

I totally agree about the mom in Autism x 6! That mom and dad IMPO are to be put on a pedastal if anyone is. I thought those were 2 of the most caring and loving and accepting people. They truley love their children no matter what. I have sent them a letter and I send her all my extra coupons and I have sent her gift cards also, I have to praise God for my awesome girls and this is one way that I can give back!

I wonder what would have happened if K8's kids had had anything wrong with them? WOudl she have abandoned them by now, her kids are as perfect as kids can get and she doesnt want them. Such a shame........

overwithKON said...

I agree with the other posters who think that K8 and Steve T were flirting with each other. When I was watching it I could not put my finger on it, then I saw the post earlier about the flriting and I totally remeember middle school and how everyone acted just like K8! Ugh, poor Steve T.

TLCexploitsChildren said...

the means to stay home with her family and take them on expensive vacations.Yeah, yeah, yeah, it gives her the means to stay at home. Too bad she's never at home but always invading someones neighborhood with her hand out for the $25,000 fee to show her orange face and bleached teeth and hair. Go, HOME, Kate just GO.
I had yesterday off but no way was I wasting a beautiful sunny warm day going to see a Greedy Gosselin mumble and bumble the same old story. Seems from that blogger that she didn't even have to do the 25 minute borefest for her fee this trip. I spent the day in the Sarah Duke Gardens being dusted with pollen instead.

bballfan said...

I just want to say that you should give Kate some credit! I mean I totally get where you all are coming from, don't get me wrong. But I just think that she does have EIGHT kids! I mean that can be stressful! She just has a very "unique" personality.
I don't care if she 8, 18 or 80 kids that DOES NOT give her a pass to be a horrid shrew to her spouse and then run off to leave the children, she claimed she so wanted that she had to mislead fertility doctors to treat her w/o the usual mandatory waiting a year, to the nanny to raise and to run around the country collecting huge fees from idiots that should be saving their funds for their own children's college educations. I blame the idiots coughing up that big fee as much as her in some respect. She's a glutton and would never pass up money for time with her children. Yeah, a unique personality ... expect not, there are lots of sociopaths in the world. Why sheeple can't see through her lies I'll never understand but she's a greedy, nasty excuse for a person. I feel for her parents, siblings and children. Jon choose her so I don't have any sympathy for him.

overwithKON said...

liarliarpantsonfire

Just had to say love your name! It is soooo0oooooooooo fitting of this horrendously horrendous show! Did I spell that right? LOL!

Sharon said...

Did anyone see the rerun of the Crayola Factory, that was on the other night. When Jon and Kate were helping the kids open that white stuff(that Collin tried to eat), Jon was telling Kate to let the kids use markers, and he called her a party pooper. I heard her say under her breath to him, and something about "you will be sorry believe me". jon shut up and walked away. I think Jon feels very threatend by something. Kate must be holding something over his head, and that is why he puts up with her.

Also I wish someone would tell me why this woman continues to behave so nasty fo rall the world to see. There has to be a good explanation, she can't be that stupid.

I'm just sayin said...

Nancy the reason is because SHE wanted to get pregnant after the twin and Jon said that he wasnt ready for it. She also told the tups "I dont want to miss another week from your life ever again"
That was after the free tummy tuck.
Now Jon expressed his dismay that he stay home most of the time and Kate doesnt give a **** how her husband or kids feel about it.

Koopdedoo said...

Anonymous Sharon said...

I heard her say under her breath to him, and something about "you will be sorry believe me". jon shut up and walked away. I think Jon feels very threatend by something. Kate must be holding something over his head, and that is why he puts up with her.

Yeah, I think she could smash the jar holding his gonads (picture the Wicked Witch of the West throwing the hourglass!). That would be a punishment of severeness, don't you think?

Concerned about the tups said...

4 year old child walking under a ladder with somebody carrying equipment walking down at the same time. Way to have multiple MULTIPLE MULTIPLE adults there yet not supervising, but in fact risking a child's life for a 5-second video clip to put in their Green episode.

Good going everybody, right down to the person who did not edit that out before airing!!! Add it to the list of blatant child exploitation and serious child endangerment.

(It was in the Going Green episode when one of the boys was walking out of the garage with a cookie.)

Sad but True said...

Nancy said...
I am not a Kate fan however I don't understand why Kate is supposed to be home "doing art projects" instead of Jon. As long as one of them is there at home, and one of them is working - why is it bad?

4/25/2009 7:00 AM
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Well, Jon IS at home doing whatever he does.

He may "be doing art projects," but he has turned into such a cranky, angry, bewildered Dad, that I doubt he does anything like that.

He probably doesn't really pay much attention to them, except what he is told to do for The Family Job.

Perhaps the Non-Nanny has the insight to allow crayons, play dough, maybe even paints.

Who knows?

We will never see it, because the Not-A Nanny "doesn't want" to be filmed.

I wonder if that is true, or maybe Kate won't allow her to be filmed.

She has said that no one will make money off her kids except Jon and Kate.

Jon has stated that he is in a "bad place," feeling upset because he can no longer, ever be "Just Jon" any more.

Kate is free as a breeze, loving her adoring fans, hanging around with the "grey haired" man who accompanies her on her trips.

She is away from home, away from Jon, away from the dogs, and, YES, away from her little children.

When she is home, "art projects" are probably not the first thing she thinks of. She wants those kids OUT of the house, playing AWAY from her.

They are not babies any more. She no longer adores them. I know she loves them, but in a much different way.

They are no longer the sun, the moon, and the stars to her.

The boys are icky, nasty little kids. I don't know what the girls are.

But none of them are babies any more.

Neither Jon nor Kate are very likely to be interested in "art projects."

Connie said...

WB said ....

Obviously this does not justify what is going on, but it makes me feel a little bit better to realize that these kids will always be there for each other, and I think that will play a huge part in helping them to lead normal lives in the future.

4/25/2009 8:47 AM
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It might not turn out that way. Kids know when one is given preferential treatment.

The kids even said that "Hannie is Mommy's buddy."

They may or may not have each other to turn to. Crud happens.

Merrilee said...

SwingsandRoundabouts said...
Gumgate is also the episode where we see little Mady standing up to Kate in defense of Collin and his bear. She looks so tiny but intent on speaking her mind. Hooray for Mady !!!
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I agree! It was really BRAVE of Mady to approach Kate when Kate was in such a loud, angry, out-of-control mood.

Mady looked very concerned for Collin.

Good on Mady!

karma said...

From the EW website regarding a book signing today in McDonough, GA;


kathykathy Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 02:35 PM EST


Kate had a book signing in my home town today. Since the store is 5 minutes from my home I went to see her (just curious). It was supposed to be from 1 p.m. until 3 p.m. and she left within 30 minutes. There was a line of people with book in hand and she suddenly got up and walked to the back of the store . When everyone started asking when she would be back the people in the store just said that she had left. No explaining at all. Now that's pretty rude and thoughtless!

Sue said...

Oh, I found a gem! By a real counselor with a focus on childhood abuse, no less...you all HAVE to read this one! She is a Gosselin neighbor, and the mansion they bought use to be owned by the woman's obstetrician!

Recovery Recon

This is a WONDERFUL post!!! I must admit it was a somewhat unbiased opinion of the situation and she DID not like them!! Her story of Jon being all fired up is great! I WISH Jon would use the same thing toward Kate. When you watch the show all you see is him doing everything. that is fine if he is a stay at home dad which he is....my issue is that when they go places whenever the kids get upset Kate is all "Jon where are you? Typical Jon is nowhere around, or the best one "you need to take care of her/him" She can't handle ANYTHING!!!!!!

kate is a cocky bitch said...

This is in response to the couple of posts saying that Kate deserves credit. I agree, she does!! Anyone with the limited interpersonal skills deserves credit for being able to hold onto their 15 minutes of fame like no other. Let's face it, the woman has below average intelligence (and I am not even referring to her nonexistent-college education) at best, yet she was able to parlay her miserable, mean-spirited attitude/freebie-loving hunger for the spotlight into a nation-wide TV show that has millions of people buzzing. She really should bottle that gall because it is at the height of chutzpah. Someone needs to remind her the next time she comes back down to Earth how lucky and how fortunate she is. Not because she has a TV show, a mansion, freebies up the ying-yang and gets luxury vacations every other weekend, but because she has 8 healthy children!

Sue said...

Let's face it, the woman has below average intelligence (and I am not even referring to her nonexistent-college education)


I must defend the education. There are nursing programs for LPN, RN, BSN etc. You can get an RN with a 2 year associates degree. She is STILL an RN. Not saying she is a good nurse or has any compassion which is what you what a nurse to have. When I was in the hospital 2 years ago with an appendicits I had HORRIBLE care during the day and my night nurse was AMAZING and I must say the CPA (certifired nurse assistant) which is only a couple months of training where AMAZING!!! The 2 year associates degree still makes you take microbiology, anatomy etc, believe I looked into this FOR YEARS! There is a program in Charlotte that is through the hospital and you yes you take classes at the local junior college but you still have to take a lot of exams. I know when I was looking 10 years ago it was HARD to get into!!

Anyways NO i would not want Kate as my nurse and she is inadequate when you see her with her family..the tick situation etc. BUT unless we all have PHD's lets nut insult her education.

anotherPAmom said...

Sue,
I would love to read the post by the Gosselin's neighbor! I couldn't get to it from your post- is there supposed to be a link maybe? Or if it is from another blog-maybe a hint about where- I know this blog isn't really supposed to publicize other blogs- but it would be great to see it!

lindahoyt said...

Connie, you are right. People like Kate, who are so selfcentered, often turn family members against each other.

If Kate does not change herself...get some serious help, and change her mentality; she is going to die alone. She will push everyone of her kids away...we see it happening right now. There is no way she even seemed like a Mom going to the store, in the 'green' episode. She just walked out the door, stepped over the kids, and talked to the camera...didn't hug Mady when she wanted a hug, and acted like it was a stupid stunt when her twins hid in the box...so sad.

Sue said...

Sue,
I would love to read the post by the Gosselin's neighbor! I couldn't get to it from your post- is there supposed to be a link maybe? Or if it is from another blog-maybe a hint about where- I know this blog isn't really supposed to publicize other blogs- but it would be great to see it!

It from a post by another blogger at 2:47

Oh, I found a gem! By a real counselor with a focus on childhood abuse, no less...you all HAVE to read this one! She is a Gosselin neighbor, and the mansion they bought use to be owned by the woman's obstetrician!

Recovery Recon

TampaMommy said...

Here's a close up of the house. WOW is all I have to say. I bet they don't feel like they're in a shoebox anymore. Having a house that large when you have young children could potentially be very dangerous. What if something were to happen to one of them and they were unable to be heard by their parents---or not-a-nanny? It's just so ridiculous.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oQyKpK4bmGQ/Ses_fVMvWOI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/SW3U2Jc6kGo/s1600-h/GosselinThird.JPG

Sue said...

anotherPAmom said


when I post the "link" it doesnt' work go to this free discussion link 2:47 lindahoyt is the name....you can click and see the post.....It is so GREAT...it's not anit or pro gosselin it's just hilarious!!!

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Sick of them said...

Sadly to admit but I have seen every episode and has anyone else noticed that it seems that these kids dont have very many toys?? Ive seen bikes, thomas trains, and that wooden kitchen (which was in the trash pile when they moved) and some other small toys. In the yardsale episode, alot of the toys they got for xmas were in the sell pile. I dont understand why the little girls dont have babydolls and accessories or other toys that most little girls play with. Has anyone else noticed this?

lindahoyt said...

Sorry Sue, here ya go:

Click here!

Tami said...

Oh my gosh....Jon and Kate made The Soup again. It's so funny....it's Kate talking about none other than herself on the couch...blah blah blah me me me um um um blah blah blah and then there's um me um um me and finally um um um me and Jon is just staring at the camera. He looks like he wants to kill someone (Kate). Then they show a few graphics in though bubbles in Jon's head, first graphic a noose....you get the picture!

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He always looks like he hates her when she talks now. I can't fathom how sheeple can look at them and think everything is normal with that couple!

Tami said...

What is ironic to me is that she has been all over the country, been on the most luxurious vacations, been treated like a star, received every possible gift under the sun, and yet the best day of her entire life was getting her ears pierced and going to lunch with her parents. Pretty simple equation there as to what made it the best day of her life.

I was hoping to hear some comments on this from the rest of the blog members...
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Now that the baby is here it sometimes effects my 4 year old. She loves helping out with him, etc, but sometimes I see on her face that she is annoyed she is not getting attention at particular times when she needs it. I always make sure to focus on her when this happens so she knows she will still get attention. If there were SIX siblings and I LIVED off them and made exploiting them my whole focus I'm sure she would be like Mady too. Too bad she is the child of KON because if she weren't she would be a completely different child!

Sue said...

Sadly to admit but I have seen every episode and has anyone else noticed that it seems that these kids dont have very many toys?? Ive seen bikes, thomas trains, and that wooden kitchen (which was in the trash pile when they moved) and some other small toys. In the yardsale episode, alot of the toys they got for xmas were in the sell pile. I dont understand why the little girls dont have babydolls and accessories or other toys that most little girls play with. Has anyone else noticed this?

4/25/2009 9:21 PM

I so agree they don't have toys...it's so much that as they NEVER play! It's always this kid hits that kid, they fight etc... I did see on YOUTUBE b/c I refuse to watch any episode that was all about the girls go into the boys room (b/c it used to be their room) but the boys can NOT go into the girls room.... I don't really get it but anyways the girls had like a little "kitchen" toy and a few others, their beds were framed etc...the boys room where the girls were kicked out of...no toys...and their was just mattresses on the floor....Go figure


Tami said...
Oh my gosh....Jon and Kate made The Soup again. It's so funny....it's Kate talking about none other than herself on the couch...blah blah blah me me me um um um blah blah blah and then there's um me um um me and finally um um um me and Jon is just staring at the camera. He looks like he wants to kill someone (Kate). Then they show a few graphics in though bubbles in Jon's head, first graphic a noose....you get the picture!



That was hilarious! My husband was said "oh they just staged him, basically he meant the video just "paused" on his respones b/c he literally didn't move!! I wish he would tell her like she used to tell him "you are just rambling" "get to your point" "no one cares what you are saying"


This make me not get posted :) but I wish he would grow a pair!!! are there times when I say something to my husband he "ignores" me and I get "hello" but never to the degree she does.

Anonymomma said...

After coming here, to this site, for as long as I have, I finally summed up my biggest complaint about the shrew. Well, second to pimping her children out.

There are many, many posts on here from women who have truly suffered with infertility. Women who have endured miscarriages. Women who still hold out hope for having a baby. Just one healthy baby to love.

And then, there's Kate Kreider Gosselin. And that is exactly the irony that is this world that we live in.

That's what pisses me off so much. Plain and simple.

Sue said...

My last post for the night!!! This is for Ms. Katie Irene! My husband and I have been trying for THREE YEARS!! We FINALLY went to the specialist (and I am 35). YOu have to try for AT LEAST a year for a legtimate "fertility specialist" to help you!! I also learned what "method" she used it's the one that gives you a 25% for 3+ children...It's the IUI with the help of injections...You can do IUI with "pills" that gives you only a 8% chance of Twins,,,multipes over that are VERY rare....I also learned that if you are "over stimluated" my doctor would NOT proceed with the procedure!! I am not going to judge her when it came to doing "selective abortion" but I personally wouldn't of allowed myself to be "injected"

lastly,,,,,If I had twins or even ONE child I would be good with that! yes, I always wanted a big family (4 kids) but I won't try to have 6 at a time which is SO DANGEROUS for the mom and the kids...

This is why I WILL NOT watch table for 12.. They had 2 SETS OF TWINS and they did fertility drugs AGAIN!!! WHY???????

Tami said...

I am not a Kate fan however I don't understand why Kate is supposed to be home "doing art projects" instead of Jon. As long as one of them is there at home, and one of them is working - why is it bad?
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Does she work 9-5? No. She goes away for MOST of the month, and why? Is it because she has to do that to support the family? No! She could be a nurse and stay at home. She chooses to be a "celebrity" and chase after fame and money at the expense of her kids' childhoods. Jon is resentful staying there because he'd rather be out skiing in Utah with teenagers. Did you see the walk in the woods episode? Neither of those parents seem to want to spend any quality time with those kids at all! They are not the priority other than being a valuable tool to get more money. How sad. SOMEONE who wants to spend time with them needs to be doing art projects with them and a whole lot more! The only reason she is not at home is because the kids are being used. Let's sell a scrapbook photo album of them! Gee! That will allow me to fly to book signings all over the U.S. In a couple years, who on earth is going to care about a book of these kids collecting dust on a shelf? Their own parents should be the ones cherishing them, not pathetic sheeple strangers.

Sue said...

It ticks me off when I read that Kate felt "GOD' played a role in her pregnancy! I don't care if it's natural or if you need help BUT as someone who is getting "help" it not longer a "natural" blessing from GOD. Not saying GOD doesn't have a say in the whole thing...I am not a religious person but GOD is still a player even if you get pregnant via help..

So for her to say ""It was God's timing, not my own," she said. "It was nothing I could force. He decides when it's going to happen. That's my advice. It just has to be that way.""

Honestly when I hear that I see her as someone who says "we were lucky b/c of GOD" If you can't get pregnant Sorry for you God isnt' on your side!!! She NEVER struggled!!! I don't get it!!! Her advice is that "it just has to be that way" so that means when "GOD IS READY" he will help everyone else???? I just dont' get it.

Tami said...

This is why I WILL NOT watch table for 12.. They had 2 SETS OF TWINS and they did fertility drugs AGAIN!!! WHY???????
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Pure selfishness IMO. If they wanted more that badly, adoption would make more sense in this case!

salaryqueen said...

anyone know where I can find old postings from Truth Breed's Hatred? It seems Julie removed old posts and I'm so curious to hear the inside info on the show.

Pegsmom321 said...

I am really trying hard not to Judge Jon and Kate Gosselin, but it is really, really hard!!!!!!!!

Unless you have had a exactly what they have in the child department (a set of twins and a set of tups) you cannot possibly understand what Jon and Kate are going through in the parenting area. It looks like they could be a little more consistent. But, I am not perfect in this area myself.

I want to make it clear that I really don’t like what I see of Jon and Kate Gosselin on TV. I would never in a million years allow my life broadcast like this for any amount of money. One need only remember the Dionne sisters and can see than Jon and Kate have submitted their children to this same freak show, only many times worse due to today’s technology of cable television and the world wide web. Also, Jon and Kate wanted this attention, where as the Dionne parents had their children taken from them at birth by a greedy doctor and the Canadian government. I find the both of them lazy and ungrateful people. Particularly, the “Christian” Kate, who could not be grateful to God for the beautiful twins she had been able to have and just had to go back for “one more baby.”

I am trying to stop hating Kate and Jon because of the following reasons:
1. Whether or not she began fertility treatments hoping to have higher order multiples and get famous from it ( I am tempted to think she did, as a labor and delivery nurse she had plenty of awareness of how risky these fertility drugs really are), she did carry and successfully give birth to 6 surviving babies.
Note: She could have done something so much more positive with this. I don’t see her giving any of the glory to God when I have watched the episodes. Don’t even get me started on the way she treats Jon. This is not the way a wife treats her husband if she lives according to principals that are in the scripture.

2. Kate is sitting in the chair all the time for the same reason a lot of us do, SHE IS TIRED!

3. Some say she does not play with the kids enough, this is not so bad, who among us spends all day exclusively playing with their children? Refuses to eat the food they make, she could just pretend to eat it like a lot of mom’s do!

4. I see a big time problem with her willing to allow her children to be filmed on camera potty training and in various stages of undress but will not allow cameras in her own private bedroom. As a mother, I feel this is a bad decision.
Note: TLC is ultimately in charge however. Most viewers do not know that when a contract is signed whatever footage is taken is owned by Figure 8 films and it is theirs to do with whatever they choose. The editing could explain why Jon and Kate look so bad sometimes. It could also explain why the TLC’s other mega-family, the ever expanding Duggar clan looks so foolish at times.

5. Kate’s alleged estrangement from her parents. Can anyone on here attest to what the truth there is? Chances are that the families don’t help out because they just cant handle the work load and noise level of a household of ten people.

However, this is my reason I am having trouble not hating KON:
Are they pimping their children out so they don’t have to work? Yes, obviously. This is because TLC and their various other sources of money are making them millionaires by the minute while the real jobs they are both trained to do would only enable them to get by. Forget about Disneyland and each of the eight children getting their very own special day with just them and mom and dad. Both Jon and Kate could have a normal private life and financially provide for their children by working jobs and juggling child care like Keith and Becki Dilley or Bobbi and Kenny McCaughey did when they were raising multiples. Both the Dilley family and the McCaughey family did allow media coverage at the births and have since allow limited coverage once a year or so. This way people who remember them can see how the kids are growing up, without their day to day privacy being taken from them. These interviews are always with a reputable news source such as ABC news or NBC Dateline.
Yes, this show should probably be taken off the air effective immediately.
For myself, I have decided that I will no longer watch the show. This child exploitation is TLC’s fault even more than Jon and Kate Gosselin’s. Who offered who a contract?

These two couldn’t pay their bills and had many financial troubles after the tups were born. They were receiving assistance from the state of Pennsylvania.. They are both fame whores who have successfully turned into national celebrities by trading in their children. I hope they enjoy the money and attention because it will not last much longer. Nothing good can come of this for the children. Where will they all be when Mom and Dad squander all the money the kids have made? I do not believe for a second that Kate is saving anything for their future. Rather than waste my time judging them and picking apart all they way the raise their kids I will sign the petition to get this family off their airwaves and support organizations such as Aminorconsideration.org. For myself, I will no longer watch Jon and Kate plus 8. As I have now had my chance to get how I feel about Kon, I also will no longer sit in judgement of them.
Thanks for listening everybody!

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Taryn said...

Lindahoyt, I think you may be on to something. She really does need a strong man to just take control of situations and tell her what she needs to do. Otherwise she *is* like an out of control child. She needs supervision! I wonder what her childhood was like.

On a superficial note, could I just say I'm ashamed to share a birth year with her? Random, but I couldn't help saying it.

Jenna L. (GWOP's Swedish Babe) said...

yeaisaidthat: Personally, if I were a Christian, I'd be really, really glad that Jon and Kate don't talk about being Christians all the time. It would be rather offensive, no?

Truthfully, I find posting comments here to be difficult. There's so much to say, and so much sorrow to express for the children, that I just can't seem to type it out. Kate certainly isn't the worst mother in the world, but how can anyone see her as a ROLE MODEL? How can anyone condone this exploitation? I am so grateful to the mods here for keeping up this wonderful site. And I'm especially thankful to the poor souls who do the re-caps - they have to watch an entire episode, and then re-live it and write everything out without breaking into sudden caps-lock yells of frustration.

Also, I've been TLC-free for two months now. Is anyone else here trying to get clean, too?

Tangerine Tanya said...

Cloggersmom,

Wow what a "Rare Treat"

MomIAm said...

Nancy said: "I am not a Kate fan however I don't understand why Kate is supposed to be home "doing art projects" instead of Jon. As long as one of them is there at home, and one of them is working - why is it bad?" I don't think this is the issue. My impression is that it is about saying one thing and doing another. You can't imply through the articles, interviews and books that you are a great mom, but are never home, and furthermore when you are with your kids make snide remarks to them and about them, and rarely seem to interact with them. Like someone said in another post, the children are treated like a herd. Even in elementary school with the large number of students, teachers try to find a little time to connect to each child individually.

Nancy said...

I don't watch Table for 12 because I think they took a huge risk with the health and lives of those babies (the tups) after already having 4 beautiful children. Selfish. And now they are "selling" them exactly like the Gosselins. All that remains to be seen is if people actually buy - from what I see so far they are pretty boring.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I don't think pointing out what one has observed is judging someone. It is just naming what one has seen. And then spreading the word. If Katie Irene is selling herself as "Mother of the Year", someone without enough wisdom to give advice to Octomom, then it is perfectly ok to point out why one does not feel she has any business teaching others how to be a wonderful mother, wife, daughter, sister, Christian. . .
The reason I post here is to let the Kons know that you can't fool all the people all of the time, and we are watching you. . . Not to judge.

M. said...

I love the Soup. I couldn't stop giggling when Joel McHale said, "Stay tuned for next season when TLC has a new show, 'Jon Minus Nine!'

LOL!

Jimmy said...

Here is the link to Aunt Jodi's video:

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2008/08/23/jon-and-kate-plus-eight-gets-nasty-aunt-jodi-tells-her-side/

Just Be Nice Kate said...

"At one point Pat complimented Kate on a state-of-the-art snuggly for sale, to which Kate whined that someone had given it to her, but had only given her one, whereas she had six babies, and what was she to do with only one lousy snuggly? [Pat's comment to me was that while Kate complained about the brazen inconsideracy of the stingy snuggly-giver, Pat wondered what Kate would ever be able to do with six snugglies anyway: Wear two on her chest, two on her back, and one on each ankle?]"

That's just hilarious! Thanks for the link Linda!

http://victimologyblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/stalking-jon-kate-small-town-way.html

msrylee said...

With regard to God's will and her pregnancies, I safely delivered two beautiful babies, three years apart, and then was diagnosed with cancer. I needed to have a complete hysterectomy at age 26, in order to save my life. My husband and I were focused on the fact that saving my life and being able to be a mommy to a three year old and a three week old baby was much more important than having more children. Several times we have "mourned" for a short time the inability to have more kiddies, but have always been so thankful that I am still alive and well. My adult children and their kiddies are my precious blessings.

My point is that God, for some reason, allowed this to happen to us, but we had to trust that we made the right decisions medically. Enlarging our family was not possible, as adoption was ruled out as anyone who had children already could not adopt in Canada at that time. We would have loved to be able to have more children, but my life and well-being were much more important. Sorry for the long post.

so irritated said...

Pegsmom321, I'm with you. I am more inclined to blame TLC these days instead of Jon & Kate. I do feel Jon and Kate intended to milk this pregnancy and the resulting children for all they were worth. The Macaughey babies were born seven years before the G babies and the things the Macaughey family were given were well publicized i.e. large new paid for home, van, etc. I'm pretty sure J&K knew of all this. When Kate was 25 weeks pregnant our local newspaper was contacted to run an article about her (I live in PA) Obviously Jon and Kate approved/ initiated this as Jon was quoted in the article. Here is an excerpt:

"The family figures they'll need a 15-passenger van to hold the kids and all the items they'll need to carry. Their house isn't huge, but the couple will take the smallest bedroom, and they see no need to move.

"When the walls start bulging, I'll start looking," Jonathan Gosselin joked.

The impending sextuplets have caused an unprecedented level of preparations at the medical center, said a team of doctors and nurses who are caring for Kate Gosselin, and who discussed the case with reporters yesterday.

Doctors said she's doing well, as are the babies, whose weights range from just over a pound to slightly less than two pounds."


04/06/04 DAVID WENNER: 255-8172 or dwenner@patriot-news.com
Because their home was being renovated by church members and the TV show, they weren't looking for a new home, but Jon mentions the need for a 15 passenger van as he would continue to do in every print and TV interview until the tups were over a year old, when no free van was offered they then had to break down and buy one with (gulp!) their own money. Not only did they shamelessly beg, but they turned many donations away that didn't suit them. The word began to spread about how ungrateful they could be and their infamy began. After Jon's father died in early 2005, a permanent message was added to their website to pray for them in their time of bereavement as well as their great financial strain. It seems Jon's father was supporting them and they then needed to look for other means of earning money. Jon and Kate have claimed TLC contacted them, but I read in a magazine article that TLC claims Jon & Kate sent them a video, so who knows who contacted who. Thus, began the sick formula of making celebrities of nobodies and marketing children in their every private and vunerable moment without the protection of the usual child actor laws. Like you, I believe Jon & Kate were fame whores from the get go, but I don't think in their wildest dreams did they ever imagine this. I think they probably hoped to not work and to live comfortably. TLC is the entity which has indulged their every greedy wish, filmed and put it on TV. Now, other HOM familes are unable to resist and are signing on the dotted line.

Acertaingirl said...

The April 27 issue of Life and Style magazine has a 2 page article on Kon possibly adopting a Hawaiian baby. I remember a recent comment regarding cases of Pampers spotted in the garage..... Hmmmmm...

Donna said...

As much as I agree with you all about everything, I think Kate was completely warranted withe "Gumgate." Most young children I know were definitely NOT allowed to have gum at the age of 3 (yes, they were 3 at the time)and my mom would've been pissed as hell if someone else had gone against her rules and thus something happened to make her day a little more stressful. Getting gum out of clothes and stuffed animals is NOT easy. And threatening to throw Collin's bear away was fine, he along with the other kids lied to Aunt Jodi and they need to learn that lying is not okay, three years old is when knowledgeable lying begins.

SO, while I usually agree with ya'll, this time I will have to respectfully disagree.

My5blessings said...

The April 27 issue of Life and Style magazine has a 2 page article on Kon possibly adopting a Hawaiian baby. I remember a recent comment regarding cases of Pampers spotted in the garage..... Hmmmmm...
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All I have for that poor baby who is most likely being adopted to bring in more Money to the Greedy household is utter, sheer sympathy.
Can't imgine being brought into that house with such a vile person.

chilledintheheat said...

I'm sorry. I just find it absolutely chilling that any agency, anyone, would allow these two idiots to adopt an infant.

Oh wait, I get it, they used the tups/twins earnings from the show to BUY one.

I know there is no pity here, but I'm feeling it for any innocent infant brought into that confusion.

RealMom said...

I hope no one is seriously buying the adoption story. Obviously this is a genious marketing ploy to get gullible people to tune in to the new season starting in May. With all the changes in Kate's life, the money, fame, travel, glamour, do you really think she will give it all up for yet another baby? Especially when the six are old enough to start school? I don't, not for one minute. They are planting stories in the media about this hoping to get people to foam at the mouth in anticipation. Just like all the nonsense about them splitting up at the end of the last season. They are smart enough to realize how stupid Kon fans are and they continue to capitalize and take advantage of them.

Bella said...

"Jon and Kate have claimed TLC contacted them, but I read in a magazine article that TLC claims Jon & Kate sent them a video, so who knows who contacted who. "

I've never bought that for a second. In keight's old home movies with the babies she talks to the camera like it's a TV test run. She looks straight at the camera and says something like "it's not always a glamours job but a very rewarding one". Uh, yeah, if that tape was just meant for the family, and "friends" why would she say something like that? These phantom emails they alway seem to get "oh we got an email about a tv show, a trip to Utah, a piano, God put diapers on our door". Give me an f'break. Keight are USERS and to me it always spoke VOLUMES that long before TLC and the specials, the locals there had already washed their hands of them, and the babies weren't even a year old.

My5blessings said...

Also, I've been TLC-free for two months now. Is anyone else here trying to get clean, too?
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Good for you. I will say I watched the Green episode the other day. I wasn't going to, but hearing about how awful she was. I couldn't believe she could be worse than anything I've seen. HA! Not so. She was as nasty a wench I've ever seen. I have to tell you to *me* becuase she's such a B**ch, I see her as ugly inside and out.

I ASSURE YOU SHE READS THIS BLOG.Her and Jon are so wrapped up in what other's think, they do read. It's probably what she was doing when she was "inside baking"
She's more hateful because she knows she's so hated!

I saw and heard this first hand on that "Green" episode. Talking about how concerned she is about the "health" of her children while handing them a cookie. Sorry, a cookie is a cookie is a cookie. Doesn't matter if it's made with Organic flour and crap or not. And by the way kate, Raisins, she should know ROT YOUR TEETH! They are VERY sugary and tend to stick to the teeth for extended periods of time to cause decay. So no Kate, this was not the healthiest thing to give your "blessings" and by the way, fruit roll ups? Bad decision Kate, bad! EG Now, if you didn't shove "organic" and health down our throats, noone would even mention it. But you are so holier than though when it comes to "healthy eating" you should KNOW these things!

She's VERY hateful because I believe well........ that's just how she is and always was-- it is why she has NO family and NO friends.

Now she just feels more justification in "being herself" which she does with great vigor.

Her not hugging was it Maddy?, I can't tell those kids apart because, well I really do not watch. Once in a blue Moon.

Still, she was NOT afraid. I know I heard some people say well I have a fear of heights. Me too- I'd still hug my child and she was NOT trying to get her footing.

She was laughing, joking and did not jump out of that "bucket' like OMG get me the hell out of this thing. Plain and simple, no excuses for Kate, she shrugged her daughter off because Kate is incapable of giving or showing true affection.
Unless it involves making a baby and even then I think a turkey baster is involved! Of course, just my opinion. certainly couldn't say for sure.

Why people go to see her, buy her books, I haven't a clue. If I saw her, I'd turn the other way. She disgusts me on levels I didn't even knew existed.
So, yes....... I hadn't seen it a while, but that was it for me. I felt like crap when I was done.
I want a show that makes me feel happy and joyful. Kate and Jon are far from a show like that.
As far as her "baking" what a freaking lie. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things, but there is no way in hell she was baking. She's a LIAR. Nothing that comes from her mouth is the truth. She opens her mouth and lies spew forth.
I will say this for her, she has allot of nerve. I feel at any moment she will look down at "her" subjects and say "let em eat cake" THAT is kate.
They both make me SICK. Kate and Jon, you are the poorest excuse of parents I've ever seen. All I can say and hope is Karma is a bitch people..... what goes around comes around. Hope I'm there to watch it teach you BOTH a valuable lessen!!!

JJ said...

Re: WB's post about Mady's special day.

Yes, it was nice to see Mady happy, and it's obvious she thrives from one on one attention. But life is not about being the center of attention all the time, and getting one on one attention constantly. She's miserable when she isn't getting her way or being the center of attention. That needs to be addressed within the family and perhaps with some counselling.

I know many people are pro-Mady and see the good and potential in her, but I am just deeply concerned for her. I didn't really see a child full of love when she got back. She announced "who wants to see my pierced ears?!" and ensured everyone was around and then proceeded to gloat that she was the only one with earrings. I understand wanting a sense of individuality but her behaviour and attitude when it comes to everythig else is troubling.

I have known many Madys in my life and I am still not convinced that she would be that much different with different parents or if it were just her and Cara. Heck, even if it was just her and her parents. It's part personality, part nurture. Maybe other parents wouldn't throw their arms up in defeat and blame low blood sugar, but I think she would still have many of the (negative and positive) traits that we see.

Get a clue said...

Donna, I must respectfully say that I truly hope that you haven't had any children yet. That sounds very cold and I'm so thankful that my mother was not so heartless. It isn't all that tough to get out gum that you throw a child's lovey away as just punishment. The kids were three and their own mother allowed them gum on airplanes. Most three year olds can't make the distinction between it's OK flying but not other times. Kate had a temper fit and took it out on a three year old. Totally unacceptable to me. The behavior she was modelling was to have a temper tantrum when you are inconvenienced.

Proud Mom Of Four Blessings said...

As someone who has adopted twice, all I have to say is that they have no idea what they are getting into. Also, I am sick of "celebrities" turning to adoption because it appears to be the trendy thing to do right now...no amount of money can buy a child love, which is what an adopted child so desperately needs! Anyway, any social worker that would approve their homestudy would be a complete moron! Shame on them if they allow this disfunctional family to bring another child into their home! Just another example of KON using innocent children to prey off of the public. My husband and I adopted because we wanted to share our love with children who desperately needed parents to raise them. It has been a difficult and trying road at times and, if we were a family who were on shakey ground to begin with, we never would have survived it. A child that has been put up for adoption has already had enormous loss and sadness in their short life...then stick them in the fishbowl with that wreched woman and spineless man...please God, don't do that to any child! Let's hope that whatever agency they decide to work with, sees them for who they really are! I'm absolutely disgusted at the very idea!

Narcissism Please said...

NCresident:

all of us here in this state know that the n&o is a crock!

that just proves it, ten-fold!

JJ said...

Anne, if/when you take your daughter to get her ears pierced, please do not do it the way Mady's was done.

Piercing guns in malls are easily the most common and convenient way, but the safest, healthiest way is at a reputable tattoo/piercing shop, done with a needle and a captive bead ring.

No, you don't get to hold a teddy bear and get a lollipop afterwards, nor do you get cute little studs with birthstones or flowers, but since everyone here seems concerned for the wellbeing of children in general, please google/research the dangers of piercing guns.

A brief summary is essentially that piercing guns cannot be properly cleaned or sterilized, the piercer is usually a part time teenager who practiced on a styrofoam ear after watching a training video, earrings used are not sharp enough (appears to be but they are NOT) to safetly pierce so you are essentially ramming a blunt object through tissue and flesh. Yes, millions of people have gotten their ears pierced this way and survived to tell about it, but they are not safe.

Please consider getting it done properly, though a tattooed piercer can be intimidating, he is properly trained and uses brand new sterile and sharp equipment everytime in a clean environment (not a table in the corner of an accessory store that's wiped with a Lysol wipe!)

PF77 said...

Jon and Kate are just stark raving stupid.

I hope that girls with a wish to have a big family with a lazy unemployable husband will not be encouraged now to follow this shrews example.

Jon and Kare are delusional.

Sure, she can give you an explanation of her reasoning behind all of her choices, but they make no sense. Not when you put them all together. Raising your kids from money you get from donations and love offerings is not being financially responsible. In her mind she thinks she is doing such a great job providing for her kids. She has a smile on her face as she talks as if she is so proud of herself. She and Jon see no wrong in taking money from hardworking people to pay for their condo's and spa treatments.

They say everything they do is for their kids. If they thought about their kids they would have been working on providing a decent life for them instead of pimping them out for a television show.

Thinking only of their kids? What Kate is all about is acting out some little girl fantasy of playing with her dolls. What she should have done instead of the in vitro was getting a bunch of those reborn dolls and playing dress up with them.

jill said...

I cannot (yet I can) believe they would adopt! It's not a puppy!

Grumpy said...

I agree with the poster who said that TLC seems to be making comparisons between the Hayes Family and the Gosselin Family, and the Hayes Family seems a lot more positive. I think it's pretty smart of TLC to do that, look for or set up exact same scenarios and see how each family and each set of parents handle things.

Shoka's Snoot said...

Kate's behavior is similar to a couple of other people's I know who are desperately trying to go up a few social classes. I think they feel if they relax for a moment and, say, let a dust bunny form in the corner, or let some leaves fall on the street, they will begin the inevitable slide to becoming yokels living in a trailer surrounded by 10 rusty cars and a yard full of weeds. (And no, I'm not making fun of people who live in such circumstances--but you can guess Kate would.) I have a friend with Kate-like tendencies, and she also reminds me of Hyacinth from Keeping Up Appearances on PBS. Watch that show if you haven't already--it's hilarious! Anyway, both of them are desperately trying to force themselves into the upper class from humble circumstances, like Kate doubtlessly is.

What bothers me the most is that the kids couldn't get a few toys for Christmas because of the 2 watchdogs, but that the "grown-ups" could apparently buy whatever they wanted for themselves. I know of other families that worry about spoiling kids, and feel that luxuries and fun items should be distributed unevenly to the adults in the family, but this takes it to the extreme.

3angelsmom said...

Donna said:
As much as I agree with you all about everything, I think Kate was completely warranted withe "Gumgate." Most young children I know were definitely NOT allowed to have gum at the age of 3 (yes, they were 3 at the time)and my mom would've been pissed as hell if someone else had gone against her rules and thus something happened to make her day a little more stressful. Getting gum out of clothes and stuffed animals is NOT easy. And threatening to throw Collin's bear away was fine, he along with the other kids lied to Aunt Jodi and they need to learn that lying is not okay, three years old is when knowledgeable lying begins.

SO, while I usually agree with ya'll, this time I will have to respectfully disagree.
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Sorry, Donna, but this is one of the episodes that made me quit watching the show. Yes, gum is difficult to get out of clothes and the kids shouldn't have lied. Agreed. But look at it from another perspective: Kate's behavior toward Aunt Jodi was completely unjustified. If someone had just watched my 7 children, along with her own, for FREE, and did so on numerous occasions, I would have cut her some slack. The situation could have easily been handled in a kinder, more diplomatic way.

Taryn said...

I swear, if I could catch Kate on a book tour, I'd bring a boombox and yell out "This song goes out to all you Gosselins out there!" and blast Madonna's "Miles Away". That is the theme song for Kate Gosselin's life.

Taryn said...

Donna, you take a little ice and get as much gum off as you can. Then throw him in the washing machine by himself, with no other clothes. And then take him out and let him air dry.

I'm sure Heloise has tips for this sort of thing. How long would it have taken Kate to get online and search some out if ice didn't work?

A kid that age can form a very strong bond with a stuffed animal. I know this and I don't even have or want kids! I puked all over my Care Bear and made a huge mess on him, but my mom took the time to wash him off in the wash basin in the basement and then put him in the washing machine. It would have killed me if she threw my beloved bear away. I still have him to this day.

Ann said...

My husband and I have thought about adopting for the last 5 years. We have looked at both overseas and local adoption. We have 3 friends who have adopted, one overseas, one a private adoption and one via foster care. After doing a home study ourselves, and looking into foreign options, I would think Jon & kate only real option is a private adoption. Many of the foreign countries limit how many children are in the family as well as income requirements. Some looked closely into traditional roles, who would be caring for the child. So I think overseas is out. I doubt that Kate would want to adopt via the state/foster care system, and I think they would look closely at family size. Alot of the state adoptions we looked at wanted, no young kids, or few children because the adopted child would need so much care/attention.

The only way I see it possible (gasp) is via private adoption. Kate has the $$$. Some poor unwed mother will see this "great life" for her kid.

Reguardless of the type of adoption, Jon has stated cleary he did not want more kids. He would have been fine with just the 2, and 8 was plenty. He seems like he is counting down the days as the kids get older, so he can get his freedom back and go sking and having a social life as he pleases. Is he going to lie to the adoption agency that suddenly he wants more kids?

If they were to adopt (gasp again) Kate has the current book tour/tea parties, and then right after that the cookbook and another tour most likely (as well as I can see her on tons of talk shows cooking). How will she answers fans to where is the baby? I doubt she would take the baby along to all these tours but what kind of super mom would live her new baby week after week? Wouldn't her die hard fans finally see the light?

homeschoolin' mom said...

I was checking out the Gosselins 10website- I am bored, have nothing better to do anyways.

I clicked on "Laughter" and saw that is part of the web site is "under construction"!

http://www.sixgosselins.com/laughter/laughter.html

The web site reflects their real life too?

How true, how true...

Abby said...

While I hope the adoption story is false I could see Kate wanting to adopt for 2 reasons....

1. The show. It needs a boost in the arm now that the kids are in school. All the family sitcoms have the Mom have another baby when the other kids outgrow their purpose (being all cute and cuddly).

2. It's a BABY (and a GIRL baby at that!). Kate's 8 kids are past the baby stage...the only stage she likes and is interested in. She wants a baby to look at her and smile and love her no matter what. (Remember she doesn't like kids who talk and have opinions.) She needs a new babydoll to love cause has ZERO interest in her husband and the 8 kids they already have.

Abby said...

I took a look at the site that posted some of Kate's "recipes" from the new cookbook. The comments are hilarious! I wonder if even the sheeple really need a book to know how to make a peanut butter sandwich? Then I imagine their collective IQ and have no trouble believing they DO need step-by-step instructions to make a peanut butter or ham-and-cheese sandwich. (oh, excuse me...a "Fall Harvest Sandwich")

Donna said...

3angels, I agree, she had a right to be angry about it, but you are right, she could've handled it more diplomatically.

deb said...

SalaryQueen, You can still type in "Truth Breeds Hatred" in google and then click on the cache link. This brings back the site as it was late last year and you can even find older posts. Hope this helps.

lindahoyt said...

Donna, I have to respectfully disagree with YOU on "gumgate". Gum on clothes or stuffed animals certainly isn't that hard to remove...especially when you have "helpers" who actually do your laundry for you. Kate did not have a reason to behave the way she did. It was over the top, and uncalled for. For heaven's sake, most mothers look on these things as a right of passage as a parent....a story for the future; a learning experience. Too bad your mom didn't realise that kids break things and ruin stuff on their way to adulthood. And it is parent's job to use the mistakes as a teachable moment, to teach them about maturity. Not a time to model uncontrollable rage and ungrateful behavior!

Shoot, put the things in the freezer, and in a half hour or so, VIOLA! the gum chips right off. ---But the stain Kate imprinted on the heart of her son, I assure you, will always be there. The stain caused on the relationship with Jodi; the stain of the public humiliation she subjected that precious woman to, is a much harder stain to remove. It would take much more than hours to get those stains out...if she only cared enough to do so. But, she doesn't seem willing to do that; and now the stains she has made are on her own garment, and will be the kind of stain that follows her for eternity.

I pray that Kate would grow up and realise that her feelings are not the most important feelings in the world!

Jodi watched her kids---plus her own 4 children---for days on end; without compensation, mind you. And it is Kate's "stress" that everyone must cater to? No! Kate needs to learn that everything isn't about her. Other people matter. Their feelings matter. We all have stress.

Instead of taking her frusterations out on an innocent little child, tormenting HIM by threatening to throw out his "comfort item"...tormenting her own son, YELLING at him in an uncontrollable fit of rage---after she had spent a quiet day of shopping and a quiet dinner out with her husband and older daughter---that she should have been concerned with how Jodi was feeling. Did Jodi have gum all over her funiture? Should Kate go over and see if she could help clean Jodi's house, after Kate's ill behaved kids messed it up?! She should have been concerned with teaching the little ones about respecting other people's things; obeying their Aunt, by giving her the gum, when they were done. Yes the kids should have been punished. Kate didn't punish them. She humiliated them instead. When parents do that, they create adults who are angry, and cruel.

SHE DOESN'T EVEN WASH HER OWN CLOTHES! The way she treated Jodi and her own son, is disgusting, and if she were a decent person, she would be ashamed. If she truely were a Christian, she would never be able to sleep at night, because the Holy Spirit would be convicting her that she had not treated her neighbor and family member, the way she wants to be treated. She didn't love her child or her sister in law more than she loves herself.

--sorry, This subject really gets me upset. Those kids are tortured by the whims of their unstable mother.

swissmiss said...

I had to laugh after looking up the article in the "News Observer" about Kate - a cloying piece if there ever was one.

The ability to leave comments has been turned off due to abuse. Gosh - I wonder why!

Bella said...

I really can't see keight adopting. And in the off-chance they did it would definitely be via private adoption. Keight aren't that A-list they can do like Bradgelina and pick up a baby in a month or two. Plus I really can't see jon going along with it. Perhaps a condition of doing a 5th season was either that or adopting another kid. Plus it would be just like keight to have a pampers box sitting there in the garage to stir up talk. If keight doesn't know I'm sure the network knows the show's days are numbered. They'll go along with whatever to boost this upcoming season.

Mostly a Lurker said...

Regarding the Pampers box in the garage:

My 4 yr old occasionally still wets the bed at night and chances are one of the tups may too. I'm sure Kate would rather diaper them than have to deal with dirty sheets. Also, they did just move and I save and use Pampers boxes for storage sometimes. I don't think (I hope not!) that it's an indicator of a new baby...

Phyllis said...

Donna:As much as I agree with you all about everything, I think Kate was completely warranted withe "Gumgate." Most young children I know were definitely NOT allowed to have gum at the age of 3 (yes, they were 3 at the time)and my mom would've been pissed as hell if someone else had gone against her rules and thus something happened to make her day a little more stressful. Getting gum out of clothes and stuffed animals is NOT easy. And threatening to throw Collin's bear away was fine, he along with the other kids lied to Aunt Jodi and they need to learn that lying is not okay, three years old is when knowledgeable lying begins.They weren't "too young for gum" when they went to Utah, as there are two separate incidents of the tups having gum. Number one, Jon gave Leah(?) gum when they were out on the slopes, and they were given gum on the plane. Three-year-olds may know how to lie, but they might not understand "conditional" rules.

I'm not even so sure that "no gum" was even a real rule or it Kate was just mad that she had to clean their clothes and made it up on the spot.

On the subject of Gumgate, I always wondered where Cara was when Jodi was giving the tups gum. She was at the house that day. If there was a rule, wouldn't she have mentioned that they were only allowed gum on planes?

DeeB said...

I completely agree with the poster, JJ, regarding Mady's behavior. Of course I feel for this child; however, I find most of her behavior absolutely appalling whether it's a vie for attention or not. I too, was disappointed in her snippy comment to the other children after just spending "the best day of her life." Her tone was nasty and uncalled for. We have heard her rude comments far too often and she is old enough to know better. On a previous show (not the recent one where they all got their hair cut) they were at the salon and Cara got her hair cut into a bob. Mady watching from a nearby chair commented, "I know just what your hair is going to look like -- a pig sty." You have to listen carefully, but that is exactly what she said. Jon & Kate made no reference to this on the interview chair. I would attribute this to kids being kids if it were not for the fact she behaves negatively so often.

Further, I've seen her kick the tups time and again. She talks back to her parents and constantly strives to be the center of attention. Her question, "is it an accident if you stab someone with a pencil" would have sent me straight to some sort of child psychiatrist to at least ask, "should I be concerned" if nothing more.

Again, I understand all your concerns about Mady. I just think a child her age should know better. I shutter to think what type of teenager she will be and how she will handle authority figures for the rest of her life. To me, Kate often looks compeltely clueless when Mady acts out. Like she just can't imagine what to do. It's just all so very, very sad.

Riley717 said...

I just wanted to give this link to an article yesterday's Detroit Free Press regarding Kate's 2 "solo" visits to the Detroit area on May 14th. And one of them is "Tea With Kate" for $150 a person!!!! I am apalled with all of the distress that Detroit is going through & so many people without jobs that she is charging so much money for an appearance.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009904250337

Tangerine Tanya said...

I sooo agree with 3angelsmom!

Nicely put!

I'm just sayin said...

Gum or no gum. Aunt Jodi babysat for FREE! Perhaps Kate should have stayed home or taken all of the kids with her. NO EXCUSE for how she treated Jodi and Collin.She is simply put A DRAMA QUEEN

My5blessings said...

Riley717 has left a new comment on the post "Free Discussion 4/25 - 5/1":

I just wanted to give this link to an article yesterday's Detroit Free Press regarding Kate's 2 "solo" visits to the Detroit area on May 14th. And one of them is "Tea With Kate" for $150 a person!!!! I am apalled with all of the distress that Detroit is going through & so many people without jobs that she is charging so much money for an appearance.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009904250337

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I had read this earlier. But, I have to be honest here. While I think Kate AND Jon are scum suckers of this WORLD. I have to stop and ponder. What person who is going through a difficult time would take $150 of their income which otherwise would feed, clothe etc. their family and use it to have "tea" with the Self proclaimed Queen Kate?
I sure as hell wouldn't. As a matter of fact, you could drag me in there with her kicking and screaming.
You have to question her and those willing to pay for such a STUPID thing! Wouldn't you think?

My5blessings said...

lindahoyt has left a new comment on the post "Free Discussion 4/25 - 5/1":

Donna, I have to respectfully disagree with YOU on "gumgate". Gum on clothes or stuffed animals certainly isn't that hard to remove...especially when you have "helpers" who actually do your laundry for you. Kate did not have a reason to behave the way she did. It was over the top, and uncalled for. For heaven's sake, most mothers look on these things as a right of passage as a parent....a story for the future; a learning experience. Too bad your mom didn't realise that kids break things and ruin stuff on their way to adulthood. And it is parent's job to use the mistakes as a teachable moment, to teach them about maturity. Not a time to model uncontrollable rage and ungrateful behavior!

Shoot, put the things in the freezer, and in a half hour or so, VIOLA! the gum chips right off. ---But the stain Kate imprinted on the heart of her son, I assure you, will always be there. The stain caused on the relationship with Jodi; the stain of the public humiliation she subjected that precious woman to, is a much harder stain to remove. It would take much more than hours to get those stains out...if she only cared enough to do so. But, she doesn't seem willing to do that; and now the stains she has made are on her own garment, and will be the kind of stain that follows her for eternity.

I pray that Kate would grow up and realise that her feelings are not the most important feelings in the world!

Jodi watched her kids---plus her own 4 children---for days on end; without compensation, mind you. And it is Kate's "stress" that everyone must cater to? No! Kate needs to learn that everything isn't about her. Other people matter. Their feelings matter. We all have stress.

Instead of taking her frusterations out on an innocent little child, tormenting HIM by threatening to throw out his "comfort item"...tormenting her own son, YELLING at him in an uncontrollable fit of rage---after she had spent a quiet day of shopping and a quiet dinner out with her husband and older daughter---that she should have been concerned with how Jodi was feeling. Did Jodi have gum all over her funiture? Should Kate go over and see if she could help clean Jodi's house, after Kate's ill behaved kids messed it up?! She should have been concerned with teaching the little ones about respecting other people's things; obeying their Aunt, by giving her the gum, when they were done. Yes the kids should have been punished. Kate didn't punish them. She humiliated them instead. When parents do that, they create adults who are angry, and cruel.

SHE DOESN'T EVEN WASH HER OWN CLOTHES! The way she treated Jodi and her own son, is disgusting, and if she were a decent person, she would be ashamed. If she truely were a Christian, she would never be able to sleep at night, because the Holy Spirit would be convicting her that she had not treated her neighbor and family member, the way she wants to be treated. She didn't love her child or her sister in law more than she loves herself.

--sorry, This subject really gets me upset. Those kids are tortured by the whims of their unstable mother.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::This is HANDS DOWN the best post on this blog in regard to "gumgate"
You outdid yourself and said everything I've thought and I'm positive others. You simply put it beautifully!
Now THIS is a POST!!! Bravo, standing applause as well!!!!!!!
Send that to Kate and Jon!!!!!!!

MayDay said...

"Jon and Kate have claimed TLC contacted them, but I read in a magazine article that TLC claims Jon & Kate sent them a video, so who knows who contacted who. "

This is an example of how J+K turn information around to their advantage. I am sure that Jon and Kate are telling the truth when they say TLC contacted them. I bet TLC did but I think what Jon and Kate are conveniently leaving out is that TLC contacted them AFTER the Gosselins sent in the video tape of their family. How other way would TLC know about this family unless they were informed by someone and that someone was Jon and Kate. Their master plan had begun.

My5blessings said...

3angelsmom wrote:
Sorry, Donna, but this is one of the episodes that made me quit watching the show. Yes, gum is difficult to get out of clothes and the kids shouldn't have lied. Agreed. But look at it from another perspective: Kate's behavior toward Aunt Jodi was completely unjustified. If someone had just watched my 7 children, along with her own, for FREE, and did so on numerous occasions, I would have cut her some slack. The situation could have easily been handled in a kinder, more diplomatic way.
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3 Angels, I think this was a deal breaker for most people.
Jodi, so completely opposite of Kate.
Jodi embodies everything Kate does not. She's so patient, loving, loyal, friendly and giving. Kate is none of those things. I belive Kate is VERY, VERY Jelalous of Jodi.
I only saw two of Jodi's kids, her absolutely GORGEOUS little boy and equally beautiful/sweet little girls. One show I saw they allowed Maddy or Cara to nail that little cutie pie right in the head with a pillow. Yes, kids pillow fight, but she meant to hurt her and she's looks like such a gentle soul, couldnt' have been more than 3 years old.
TLC should have done a show on how to survive Jon and Kate and Starred Jodi and Kevin! LOL

blocitfromyourtv said...

Who the heck is Megan McCain??

ThePaginator said...

Megan McCain is John McCain's daughter. She co-hosted the View this week. I thought she did a great job (I HATE EH) but she did give J&K a shout out!
Yuk.

Amy said...

I'm commenting on the adoption thread. Some posters have suggested that Jon doesn't want more children. I agree with that. However, remember whatever Kate wants Kate gets. Jon doesn't have the will to stand up to Kate and say "NO". So as in the past, he'll sign the papers, go through the homestudy and the multitude of other hoops required. If the adoption rumor is true (and I'm not buying it), after the adoption is complete, he'll get more toys in exchange for his bending to Kate's will.

A couple of posters have attended book signings and mentioned that Kate left after 30 minutes, well under the 2 hours that were scheduled. Is this typical at book signings? Do the stores have any recourse such as talking with the PR person?

I love my son! said...

Did anyone see the article in Star magazine regarding Kate's hairdo? Pretty funny stuff. Kate's picture is alongside Seth Green's new mohawk and a girl who shaved half of her hair off recently. I guess Star was trying to figure what was up with her hair too!

readerlady said...

God, I love this site! I don't post much, but I find myself saying "Amen" to a lot of what is posted here. Re "gum" and flying - most pediatricians recommend giving gum to children when flying. And if you are flying with infants, they should be given a bottle, particularly when taking off and landing. The act of chewing/swallowing, sucking/swallowing helps keep the eustacian tubes clear and prevents painful earaches and possible rupture of the eardrums. So - Kate may have had a rule about no gum. In the case of flying, gum ia treament, not treat. However, Kate's meltdown was totally out of line. Jodi didn't know the 'tups weren't allowed. Likely her children, who haven't been infantalized, were allowed. And the threats to Collin were just appalling.

WB said...

I was watching the episode "Gosselin Games" on youtube, where it is about the family's games they play...

I am not even all the way through the episode, and my mind is sincerely BLOWN.

This episode has more ridiculousness in it than any other episode I have seen by far, and I think you all would be very interested in it if you haven't already seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyP_zOWz700&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukSR-KEVE_Y&feature=related

Those are parts 1 and 2.

The first thing that blew my mind is Mady and Cara teaching all the 'tups... Teaching them their letters and numbers, making projects that correspond to those letters, ie. it is "B" week, so they are making bookmarks. Not only are they able to control the sextuplets and give them personal attention, they are TEACHING them while they do it. Mady says to the little kids, "We have to prepare you for preschool!"

That is really awesome that the twins love to do that! Why do we never see Kate do that? Unbelievable. Mady and Cara are going to be more of a parental figure to these kids than Jon and Kate are.

The next thing that got me was Kate sitting in a white lawn chair in the garage barking out orders to Jon and getting extremely pissed off at him while he is trying to play with the kids. She never leaves her chair, simply yells at Jon and yells at the kids from it while Jon is being a good dad and playing with his children. Then she gets pissed off and shouts about how she is the working woman and he is the stay at home dad, so he needs to be cleaning the garage!

WHAAAAAAAT!? Mady and Cara are teaching the kids and preparing them for preschool. Jon plays with the kids and shows them the love they deserve. Jon does everything around the house, and she has the nerve to tell him he needs to do more because she is the worker of the family? I have seen some J&K moments that piss me off, but this scene tops them all.

Mady then proceeds to talk to the camera about how her mom just sits there and barks out orders and never moves, and how she is the "queen bee."

I am not even through this episode yet, but who knows what else is to come. If you guys haven't seen that episode, I would strongly suggest clicking those links I provided and taking a look...

3angelsmom said...

I hope Donna's not sorry she posted after the slew of responses disagreeing with her :)

btw the other "deal breaker" episode for me was furniture shopping while Collin was in pain. I think the sheeple tend to view the show through a parent's eyes (i.e. empathize with parents making mistakes & how stressful it is to raise children), while we on this blog empathize with the children and see things from their perspective. When I first stated watching the show, I was on the fence b/c although I felt bad for the kids when they were, for example, pushed out of the kitchen, I could empathize with Kate being stressed and needing some breathing room. But: THE KID WAS IN PAIN. HE WANTED HIS MOTHER. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT HOME WITH HER, NOT IN A FURNITURE STORE AND ON TV. I honestly can't understand how anyone could identify with the parents or not feel for those kids after that episode.

Thanks for letting me vent.

MomIAm said...

Gumgate was the first show where I sat there with my mouth open in shock that a mother would treat her child so badly. At that point I had only seen a couple of shows during a marathon one Saturday. I hope most parents don't threaten their children like that about a beloved toy. Kate should be completely ashamed of herself.

MorganfromWV said...

Funny...In this article http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1500234.html
they turned the comments off due to abuse. I commented on there yesterday and not once did I see anything that would be considered abuse! I did however see alot of people saying that Jon and Kate were bad parents and exploit their children. Wonder if Kate saw the comments???

Jane in California said...

Donna said...

As much as I agree with you all about everything, I think Kate was completely warranted withe "Gumgate." Most young children I know were definitely NOT allowed to have gum at the age of 3 (yes, they were 3 at the time)and my mom would've been pissed as hell if someone else had gone against her rules and thus something happened to make her day a little more stressful. Getting gum out of clothes and stuffed animals is NOT easy. And threatening to throw Collin's bear away was fine, he along with the other kids lied to Aunt Jodi and they need to learn that lying is not okay, three years old is when knowledgeable lying begins.I will have to respectfully disagree with you. While children need to learn that lying is not acceptable behavior, do not use despicable behavior in order to enforce that knowledge. What Kate did to Collin, threatening to throw out his beloved comfort item, while he's crying and begging her not to, was downright cruel. That is not the way to teach a child anything, except that you (Kate in this case) are a monster.

As to not giving gum to a child -- aunt Jodi is tenderhearted and she fell for those little faces swearing solemnly that they were allowed to have gum. I have left my son with trusted friends when he was younger and come to pick him up and learn he had a full soda, some candy or whatnot. So I have a hyper child on my hands. Not thrilled, but I would never, AND I EMPHASIZE NEVER, scold my friend. She just did me a solid. So if she didn't follow my rules exactly, I am still very grateful to her for her friendship and kindness. Never would I behave so churlishly! One broken rule, one piece of gum on an item -- is not a big deal unless you are Mommie Dearest.

Jane in California said...

I love my son! said...

Did anyone see the article in Star magazine regarding Kate's hairdo? Pretty funny stuff. Kate's picture is alongside Seth Green's new mohawk and a girl who shaved half of her hair off recently. I guess Star was trying to figure what was up with her hair too!LOL - no I didn't see that article. However, I recently saw a clip of Katie Couric and sat open-mouthed -- she has Kate's haircut except without the thick stripes! Her fake tan is much more natural looking, but I was stunned. The resemblance was so distinct I didn't watch the rest of the clip! lol

Annies said...

one blogger sais I ASSURE YOU SHE READS THIS BLOG.Her and Jon are so wrapped up in what other's think, they do read. It's probably what she was doing when she was "inside baking"
She's more hateful because she knows she's so hated!

Wish I could find the video but it was from a book signing interview from a TV station. Kate says she never Googles herself or looks at stuff about them on the Internet. I know Jon used to be fanatical about looking at the blogs as The Reading Eagle local paper had some blogs blasting KON and he used to write some scathing replies, some anonymously.

Anonymomma said...

Still, she was NOT afraid. I know I heard some people say well I have a fear of heights. Me too- I'd still hug my child and she was NOT trying to get her footing.

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I can't speak for Kate, or anyone else for that matter, and I suppose everyone is different. But I have a fear of heights since I was roughly 10. Or at least that's when I can remember the first panic attack I had due to this phobia. I literally can not stand on a chair to reach something on a shelf because I go into a shock. One day my hubby was at work and my twins were small. I was cleaning their room. The boys were in their cribs, though I had moved obe of them to run the vacuum behind and around the area. He was within reach of the curtains and he yanked them, and down they came. Normally, I'd leave them there and let the hubby fix it later but I knew he wasn't due home for hours yet and I didn't want to just leave it like that. So I brought in a kitchen chair and climbed up, hoping to pop the rod back on the bracket.

Silly me. I looked out the window. Two stories up. I was petrified. Seriosuly, I could not move out of fear I'd fall off of the chair ad through that window. And there I stood, shaking and crying for almost an hour, which is when my MIL just so happened to pop in (and who says MIL's coming over is a bad thing?!?).

There would be no way in hell you'd ever get me in a cherry picker. I also fear flying because of this. One day a few years ago, as we were planning a trip from PA to CA, my husband and I began discussing the possibilty of taking a flight because it would obviously be faster. The conversation alone was enough to rattle my nerves.

I know it sounds so terrible but, even if one of my children's lives depended on it, I don't think I could ever get on a plane or climb a ladder to save them.

I guess everyone is different and maybe it just depends on the person and the extent of their fear. But I can't say I believe Kate has a true fear of heights.

Why r they still 2gether? said...

Why does this family think it is okay to show their kids private lives to us? I know more about this family then I do my own circle of family and friends'
kids.
Is this a new thing? I have been
reading blogs lately of families-
one mom has been staying with her
infants son while he is hospitalized and nothing is kept private- we are told every detail
of his care.
I think the Gosselins and all these bloggers have a form of
Munchhauser by proxy- but instead
of inducing illness in their kids to get attention- they reveal all
their private stuff to get
attention.
Does anyone else see this??

My5blessings said...

Silly me. I looked out the window. Two stories up. I was petrified. Seriosuly, I could not move out of fear I'd fall off of the chair ad through that window. And there I stood, shaking and crying for almost an hour, which is when my MIL just so happened to pop in (and who says MIL's coming over is a bad thing?!?).

There would be no way in hell you'd ever get me in a cherry picker. I also fear flying because of this. One day a few years ago, as we were planning a trip from PA to CA, my husband and I began discussing the possibilty of taking a flight because it would obviously be faster. The conversation alone was enough to rattle my nerves.

I know it sounds so terrible but, even if one of my children's lives depended on it, I don't think I could ever get on a plane or climb a ladder to save them.

I guess everyone is different and maybe it just depends on the person and the extent of their fear. But I can't say I believe Kate has a true fear of heights.
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I feel for YOU. What you describe sounds like true phobia when it comes to high places. I don't get like that, I will have a panic attack, however. And well, those who suffer from those.. know there is no mistaking what it looks like or feels like.
Listen, Maybe Kate has a fear of heights, I shouldn't say she doesn't.
What I will say and I make no apologies for it is this. That day, when she got in the "bucket" she was not afraid. She was full of shit.
You can see real fear. Her daughter was an annoyance to her. Know why? She was busy TRYING her best to be cute and flirt which was failing miserably. They saw her for the terrible, unkind person she is and most likely always will be.
So for you, I'm truly sorry. For her, not so much.

Geee Whiz said...

Kate sure took the time to call Aunt Jodi to give her a tongue lashing but did you ever see her call Jodi up to say thanks? How about hey Jodi why dont you and Kevin take some time off and let me watch your kids( my nieces/nephews) Now that I am on a rant I want to say that the other to shows that upset me greatly was when she just HAD to take all 8 kids to pick out bunk beds and the cupcake episode!!!!

I say: Thank Aunt Jodi and not scold her.

I say: Keep the kids home when shopping for bunk beds and tend to your sick son.

I say: GIVE THE BOYS THEIR BIRTHDAY CUPCAKES.

Ohhh no...I forgot about poor little Jolie on the cold laundry room floor....

My5blessings said...

Wish I could find the video but it was from a book signing interview from a TV station. Kate says she never Googles herself or looks at stuff about them on the Internet. I know Jon used to be fanatical about looking at the blogs as The Reading Eagle local paper had some blogs blasting KON and he used to write some scathing replies, some anonymously.
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Jon and Kate BOTH are liars.
I know they read because they are so freaking stupid, they include things we talk about ON THIS BLOG IN THEIR SHOW! LOL Just like the Cookies deal and the baking.
That was two-fold. One to sell her upcoming "cookbook" and the second was to try to make digs at those of us who blog here. All it did for me was make me laugh in disgust at her.
Read away Kate and Jon, you Jon are a balless wonder. And Kate, Please do your children a favor. Take a REAL parenting class. One where you are NOT, I repeat NOT the speaker!!!
You both need it!!!
Kate and Jon....... is it lying when you get paid for it????? Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmm

Not a fan of fake orange people said...

www.lhj.com-

Jon says "I always thought I'd be, like, 54 and marry a 19 year old or something" he says with a grin....Creepy! That explains the college incident.

Also, he says that Kate doesn't look like a woman who has had 8 kids..well no crud! Cut my extra belly fat off and I bet I don't look like I had any kids either!

These idiots irritate me.

Maggie said...

ANONYMOUS comments will not be posted here. I know that we have revived a few old threads about shows before we had that rule. You will see the dates are not current.

We get some great comments but ANONYMOUS is not going to work, please read the rules if you aren't sure how to post or why your comment did not go through!

If you think your comments never go through, please save them and email a moderator and we will help you with that. If you don't save them, we may not be able to help.

Please just read the rules, it won't take more than a minute from your life! Thanks, Maggie

Beth said...

Hmmm...here's an interesting clip of Jon and Kate leaving a restaurant. It takes a couple seconds to load.

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=bd286e39-a0da-466a-a007-2649a7300013

Sorry if this has been posted already!

We said...

I think that some of the gulable sheeple would rather pay $150.00 for tea with Kate and not pay their electricity....I am serious.

jayley said...

To parents with smaller children-We are the parents of college age kids now and believe you me, each still has the original snuggly that they had in their cribs from the day we knew they were coming. All look at each, as something very special that their dad and I had the perserverence to keep secure, whether it be falling out of canoes, lost at they beach, dropped from shopping carts, or maybe got a little gum on. It is certainly a respect issue to hold onto your childs snugglys. ( i never thought i'de be thanked for it, but the rewards turned out to be so worth it) hang in there folks, respecting your childs snuggly is akin to respecting your childs young childhood, gum, or not.

Jasmine said...

John and Kate uncensored: Kate cusses John out when he lets the kids watch t.v. in bed. Let your real colors shine, Kate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOn2WnNl-y0

My5blessings said...

btw the other "deal breaker" episode for me was furniture shopping while Collin was in pain. I think the sheeple tend to view the show through a parent's eyes (i.e. empathize with parents making mistakes & how stressful it is to raise children), while we on this blog empathize with the children and see things from their perspective. When I first stated watching the show, I was on the fence b/c although I felt bad for the kids when they were, for example, pushed out of the kitchen, I could empathize with Kate being stressed and needing some breathing room. But: THE KID WAS IN PAIN. HE WANTED HIS MOTHER. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT HOME WITH HER, NOT IN A FURNITURE STORE AND ON TV. I honestly can't understand how anyone could identify with the parents or not feel for those kids after that episode.

Thanks for letting me vent.

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You know, I didn't see that episode. I've missed so many. I think THAT is a blessing!
Just reading about it, however gives me the inside scoop of what happened to poor Collin. The little guy I worry about anyway.
As I've mentioned before, Autism has run rampant in my children. And with that often comes Gastro issues. I CanNOT imagine not leaving a store if my child were in pain.Should go without saying, but obviously it doesn't. I have great empahty for tummy aches, having been given the dx of CVS for my son. So ah yeah, my arse would have made their door look like it spun.
Just when you think she can't possibly be a worse, more uncaring parent. Wala, she fools ya.
Poor little guy...............

WB said...

Regarding the video of Jon and Kate after eating:

They reacted completely normally and politely in my mind.

I was expecting a freakout or something if it was worth putting on the internet.

The only thing I noticed is how they apparently are chauffeured around now? Don't even drive themselves around anymore I guess...

Donna said...

3angels, I did respond to these posts but it didn't get through. I'm not sure why as I was very respectful in my response, but oh well.
I'm honestly a little hurt that everybody is making it seem like my mom or I as a parent are as heartless and disgusting as Kate, because it is so far from the truth.
Let me clarify what I meant:
I understand why Kate was upset about the gum. I'm not surprised she acted the way she did, because thats just the way she is. (Bad as it is). I DO think she overreacted. There, thats all I meant. I'm not a bad parent, my mom was not either, neither one of us acts like Kate ever does.
But yeah, I am kinda sorry I posted.

Amanda said...

Amy said...
A couple of posters have attended book signings and mentioned that Kate left after 30 minutes, well under the 2 hours that were scheduled. Is this typical at book signings? Do the stores have any recourse such as talking with the PR person?

Hi Amy! I used to work for a large chain bookstore as the event coordinator and then I worked for an independent so I can give you an answer. Most authors or celebs stay the full time allotted, however, they have no contractual obligation. While Kate's PR people might be upset about her behavior, from the way she's acted it doesn't seem like she cares. Some authors/celebs have to leave right on time, but the majority of them will stay to accommodate their fans because they realize that without their fans....well you know.

Ironically, I was vacationing in the VA Beach area last week and I happened to go to a Borders that is hosting Kate on Tuesday. I asked the lady who was helping me about it and she just rolled her eyes and said she hopes there aren't a lot of disappointed fans--because she'd heard the same thing, that Kate had been leaving early, and there is no recourse for that. Unfortunately, a lot of times at these events, the staff members are the ones who get blamed if the author event does not go as planned.

So good luck to the booksellers in Sarasota, Florida on Monday and in Hampton, Virginia on Tuesday! I also heard a rumor she will be in the DC area doing an interview with the Washington Post....

Maggie said...

AMANDA, thanks for your explanation. I would like to ask you who has contracts for the book signings? Is it the publisher?

If the publisher pays anon advance and puts a contract with the author, would the amount of time that the author stays at a book signing be in the contract? Or maybe they haven't met Kate yet!

How does it work with the retailer scheduling the book signings? Do they not pay for them, but agree to it to sell more books? Do they have an agreement with publishers to do a certain amount of events, or do publishers pay to have the events?

Thanks, I am really interested in this. It just seems amazing that someone is paying for Kate and her bodyguard to fly to these events (first class, supposedly), stay in a hotel (sometimes), meals, expenses, etc. and they get 30 minutes out of it? Doesn't make sense.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

I didn't see anything wrong with KON on the video on TMZ. But I think TMZ is a disgusting outfit, just as bad as KON and I would love to see them go under because they make a living stalking other people's lives, almost like KON.

Hannah W said...

Jasmine said...

John and Kate uncensored: Kate cusses John out when he lets the kids watch t.v. in bed. Let your real colors shine, Kate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOn2WnNl-y0


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This is just my opinion but I just watched this video and it seems fake to me.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Jasmine I cant for the life of me get the the youtube site of Kate getting mad at Jon for letting the kids watch television. What is that last letter .....4th from the left?

We said...

Just look at Angelina Jole and Brad Pitt? They have 6 children with whom appear with them im most pictures. I also have noticed that the kiddos are allowed to snack on junk food items such as cheetos etc....I think that Angelina knows full well seeing that she has witnesed famine and poor countries that one not need to go overboard. Kate could not even hold a matchstick to Angelina. Now that is a mother.

BittersweetPunkin said...

I got a chuckle hearing someone say Kate said they'd do the show as long as she was breathing....what makes her think people would actually keep watching? How narcissistic!

I also agree that TLC is showing them in a most unfavorable light for a reason....

alana said...

Save yourselves some time:

The TMZ video of "KON leaving a restaurant..." has been taken down.

I guess TMZ didn't pay the $20.00!

Reading news said...

Maggie said...
"Thanks, I am really interested in this. It just seems amazing that someone is paying for Kate and her bodyguard to fly to these events (first class, supposedly), stay in a hotel (sometimes), meals, expenses, etc. and they get 30 minutes out of it? Doesn't make sense."

I don't think it was ever established that the above was the criteria for the book signings. I think these were the requirements for the church appearances and I think sometimes Kate has them throw in an opportunity for a book signing. I also wonder who would be responsible for the bodyguard (if that is what Kate is calling him). If you hire a bodyguard wouldn't you be responsible for his transportation? Just wondering.

3angelsmom said...

Donna - I did see a response of yours get through. I can't speak for everyone else, but I DID NOT feel that your comment made you or your mom "heartless or disgusting." Emotions just tend to run high when talking about the kids. You started a good discussion and got me thinking! Even though you said in your post you usually agree with GWOP, it helped me to understand why others might like Kate, or at least not hate her. Different people see different things in each episode based on their individual history and experiences.

PAmama said...

I watched the rerun of the pumpkin patch epi. k8 and jon on the couch talking about people walking through "their group" and having to let go of a 2 yr olds hand, the next scene it looks like jon is yelling at k8 but if u look he's yelling at some woman with her two boys and when he yelled she actually jumped like out of fear it looked like.

Ms.Peach said...

This was posted April 24 by a blogger who attended a book signing.

Well she started by coming out late. And then she only took questions. She never really spoke about anything it was just a question and answer session. It may have been the stupid questions that people were asking. When asked about being famous she said she hated that word and that if she could do it over they would have chosen not to. The whole time she seems to be inconvenienced to be there, it was mainly the comments to a few of the questions. She then signed books and a picture of herself. We waited in a huge line to see her and but time we got there she didn't even talk to you. I said that I loved, her and that I had triplets an the she just smiled at me, not even a word. I felt like a dumb ass. I thought we moms of multiples were supposed to stick together.

marylou said...

I think it will be interesting to see how many people actually pay for the tea. The web site says tickets will be mailed out starting April 20th. When I went there today, if you click on "buy a ticket", it still works, so there must be tickets still available. I can see this getting cancelled if they don't get enough takers. I can't see Kate sitting around with 5 or 6 people. Too cozy a setting for someone with no social skills.

Mommy-in-SC said...

Jasmine said...

John and Kate uncensored: Kate cusses John out when he lets the kids watch t.v. in bed. Let your real colors shine, Kate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOn2WnNl-y0


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Obviously a fake!!

MyCordFellOff said...

jklWhy does this family think it is okay to show their kids private lives to us? I know more about this family then I do my own circle of family and friends'
kids.
Is this a new thing? I have been
reading blogs lately of families-
one mom has been staying with her
infants son while he is hospitalized and nothing is kept private- we are told every detail
of his care.
I think the Gosselins and all these bloggers have a form of
Munchhauser by proxy- but instead
of inducing illness in their kids to get attention- they reveal all
their private stuff to get
attention.
Does anyone else see this??

4/26/2009 7:18 PM

YES! I never thought of it quite that way, but now that you mention it....
Regarding a family member who was posting some "Interesting" things on her MySpace: I will never forget my mom's response, she said something like "I just do NOT understand WHY people want to put so much information about themselves out there for everyone to see.." Like sadly but also confused.
I agree! WHY? It could very well BE A M-by-Proxy, related thing. Like attention-seeking. Etc.
When I read one woman's blog where she wrote at LENGTH about her two-week-old's UMBILICAL CORD falling off!!--that did it for me! YAWN! I have seven and guess what: ALL their cords dried up and fell off and I must be WEIRD but not only did I NOT blog about it (there was no picture at least ), but I didnt call any friends or family to TELL THEM about it , either!! LOL!
Kate needs the secondary attention her kids and whatever else (posssessions?) bring her. That is all.

VB said...

Amanda said...

Ironically, I was vacationing in the VA Beach area last week and I happened to go to a Borders that is hosting Kate on Tuesday. I asked the lady who was helping me about it and she just rolled her eyes and said she hopes there aren't a lot of disappointed fans--because she'd heard the same thing, that Kate had been leaving early, and there is no recourse for that. Unfortunately, a lot of times at these events, the staff members are the ones who get blamed if the author event does not go as planned.

So good luck to the booksellers in Sarasota, Florida on Monday and in Hampton, Virginia on Tuesday! I also heard a rumor she will be in the DC area doing an interview with the Washington Post....
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NOOOOOOOOO!!! Please tell me that witch wasn't here in Virginia Beach???!!! Maybe its a good thing I didn't know because I would have been out there protesting!!! If Hampton is still on the agenda, I just may have to make a run up there.

Shoka's Snoot said...

The beeping on that video seems fake. At one point the "con" syllable is beeped out of the word "confront"--clearly not an obscenity. So it is sort of a parody.

Having said that, though, it is really them on the video, and it is a piece I haven't seen on tv--very interesting! Kate shows a warm, kind side to the girl having a nightmare (Hannah or Leah--can't remember which), but is horrible to Jon (well, there's a surprise, huh?).

First, she loses his temper with him for breaking one of "their" (meaning "her") television rules by letting either the frightened child or another child watch tv.

I can understand that to some extent. She felt that the late tv watching was causing the children's insomnia and causing chaos in the house. I'm sure all the sheeple will defend her on those grounds (You don't know what it's like to have 8 kids who won't sleep!) But what happens next is truly humiliating. She makes him promise to the camera man or the audience or somebody not to do it again! It's like she's a principal, he's a naughty boy
who pulled a little girl's hair, and the audience/cameraman/somebody is the little girl who had her hair pulled. Meanwhile, he just stares straight ahead, not making eye contact with anybody, looking totally humilated. I don't know how anyone could defend one parent speaking to another like that. No one would tolerate a man speaking to a woman like that--it would be borderline domestic violence. I cringed when i watched this piece.

My5blessings said...

John and Kate uncensored: Kate cusses John out when he lets the kids watch t.v. in bed. Let your real colors shine, Kate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOn2WnNl-y0

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No offense to you as the poster of this link. But to me, it seemed a bit shady. Not buying the bleeps.
NOT that I don't think they BOTH curse but... I just don't think they were here. I Could be wrong.
Thanks though!

realitybites said...

I got a chuckle hearing someone say Kate said they'd do the show as long as she was breathing....what makes her think people would actually keep watching? How narcissistic!

I also agree that TLC is showing them in a most unfavorable light for a reason....

Of course TLC, and J & K are equally approving of, showing them in a 'most unfavorable light'. What else do J & K have going for them that would keep viewers tuning in each week? Example. J & K + 8 season #4 finale received its highest viewer ratings because it was the episode that was promoted as 'its all been leading up to this'. The season finale episode most certainly did not receive its highest ratings ever as a result of 'faithful' fans tuning in every week. Controversy and tabloid rumor in addition to the way TLC described and hyped the episode is what prompted viewers to tune in. The J & K reality show has become so predictable that TLC must now rely on tabloid rumor and controversy to sustain ratings.

My5blessings said...

To parents with smaller children-We are the parents of college age kids now and believe you me, each still has the original snuggly that they had in their cribs from the day we knew they were coming. All look at each, as something very special that their dad and I had the perserverence to keep secure, whether it be falling out of canoes, lost at they beach, dropped from shopping carts, or maybe got a little gum on. It is certainly a respect issue to hold onto your childs snugglys. ( i never thought i'de be thanked for it, but the rewards turned out to be so worth it) hang in there folks, respecting your childs snuggly is akin to respecting your childs young childhood, gum, or not.
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I had to laugh with this post.
Although my older boys do not still have any of their "huggies" One held onto his blankie until his teens and then let it go. I STILL save it and he enjoys seeing it with fond affection. I'll always save it. I, myself, still have my receiving blanket. My Mother was kind enough to save it.
But, now.... my daughter who is almost 29 STILL to this day has her "Uni" it is a Unicorn which in it's hayday was gorgeous white with a big pink bow on his neck.
Now, he has no beans left inside of him. He's all flat and she still loves him. Not because it's her "Uni" but for what it represented to her. Won by her father at a fair, given to her at 3years old......... it holds great meaning as did that little Lovie Kate in all her hatefullness was willing to pitch to the curb with all the other "stuff" she deems unworthy.

LiLo said...

One of the things that has really struck me about all of this - and I wanted to commend you all who pointed it out - is how much Kate's treatment of the tups and the girls since the show began. I watched one of the earlier specials, and Aidan grabbed hold of his crib, pulled himself up, and climbed into his crib. Kate, putting them in for a nap, watched adoringly and put her hands under his butt to help boost him, but basically watched him do it intently and amazed. She cooed at him how he did such a good job, etc. and when he got in his crib and grabbed his bear she said, "Ohhhh you wanted your bear!!".

You just don't see those moments anymore. As for the toys thing, I'm sure they have plenty, but when kids are treated a certain way, like adults basically, they don't sit down to play. They fight with each other and "play" with each other and emulate adults.

My5blessings said...

Shoka's Snoot wrote:

I don't know how anyone could defend one parent speaking to another like that. No one would tolerate a man speaking to a woman like that--it would be borderline domestic violence. I cringed when i watched this piece
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How true this post is, and something I honestly hadn't considered. If Jon spoke, hit and did the things Kate does to him, people would be up in arms! But because it's a woman somehow that seems to fly.
Thanks for bringing that up. Very good point!

konspiracytheory said...

Just to clarify the "Jon & Kate uncensored" link:

I saw that ages ago on TLC - there was absolutely nothing to bleep. Yes, Kate rips Jon a new one as per usual in the undoctored TLC version, but there is no cursing - whoever added the bleeps to the youtube version was just messing around.

OutofControlKate said...

There have been other youtube videos of Kate in all her hideous glory raging at Jon & yes, even some of the kids (which is even worse). This has been occurring in the last few months, and it is speculated that these clips that never made it on the show, are being put on that website by someone from TLC just to hype-up more drama/ratings for their reality show.

Donna said...

I can't believe so many of you think that video of Kate cussing Jon out over TV watching in bed is real. It's SO obviously a joke and meant to be, and SOOOO hilarious...

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Sue said...
I must defend the education. There are nursing programs for LPN, RN, BSN etc. You can get an RN with a 2 year associates degree. She is STILL an RN.
I'm sorry to bring this up and possibly anger people, but IIRC, Kate's education was not a degree program, it was a diploma program. It's kind of confusing, but a nursing diploma school is sort of like an apprenticeship...there's little, if any, classroom time, it's all on the job training. She doesn't have her ADN nor her BSN. Most Nursing Diploma schools aren't accredited anymore, as RN's are thought to need both major classroom education as well as clinical experience. (I just graduated last May w/ my BSN, so I know this all too well.) Anyway, Diploma programs aren't thought of too highly in the nursing field these days, unless, of course, that was an RN's only option "back in the day" (but by now, those RN's have years of experience to fall back on). There's too many of the so-called "diploma mills" out there-give a "school" some money, put a little effort into a program, and BAM! you have a diploma...not a very solid educational experience right there. So, in conclusion, I would say that just because Kate is an RN, it doesn't mean she's "educated", as mean as that sounds. And no, I'm not saying that b/c I have my BSN and feel intitled...Kate actually took the easy way out to get to her former RN career.

My5blessings said...

You just don't see those moments anymore. As for the toys thing, I'm sure they have plenty, but when kids are treated a certain way, like adults basically, they don't sit down to play. They fight with each other and "play" with each other and emulate adults.
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You know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of that Movie Jim Carey did years ago. "The Truman Show"
Every aspect of your life on T.V for the Country to see.
It's so wrong.
No wonder I stopped watching. I'm SO SORRY I saw the "green" episode.
See what curiousity gets ya. Never again.
TLC is banned in our home.
Too many other evening shows to view, books to read, children to take care of.
If I want to see cuteness in children, I need not look further than my own home. ( of course, that is when they aren't in school. grins

LisaH said...

I've read a lot of peoples posts stating that Kate should stop traveling around the country and be a mother to her children. While I don't disagree with that because they are her children and thereby her responsibilty, I have to ask, are the children perhaps better off if their mother is not around them so much?

My thinking is that Kate is not the most nurturing parent. How many times have we seen her reject her children for one reason or another? How often have we seen her breakdown over a spec of dirt or worse, gum and go bizerk. How many times on camera have we seen the kids themselves freak out because they got dirt on their shoes, clothing, hands etc... How often have we seen the kids denied a fun activity because Kate deems it too dirty? How often has she made disparaging remarks to her children?

I guess my point is, perhaps with Kate not around so much, the kids can perhaps have a break and just be normal kids (or should I say, normal kids with a television crew following them around). Perhaps less exposure to Kate might be good for the children?

Just thinking out loud.

Laura said...

When we got our daughter's ears pierced, we were shown the gun. It is made of plastic, is wiped down multiple times with antiseptic, and the only part of the gun that touched my daughter's ears was the earring which came in a one time use casing, all of which came out of a sealed package.

Amanda said...

Maggie said...
AMANDA, thanks for your explanation. I would like to ask you who has contracts for the book signings? Is it the publisher?

If the publisher pays anon advance and puts a contract with the author, would the amount of time that the author stays at a book signing be in the contract? Or maybe they haven't met Kate yet!

How does it work with the retailer scheduling the book signings? Do they not pay for them, but agree to it to sell more books? Do they have an agreement with publishers to do a certain amount of events, or do publishers pay to have the events?



Maggie, I never did a book signing with Zondervan so I don't know what their policies are, but in general the publicity/publisher foots the bill. The rationale is, the job of the bookstore is to sell the books, and having an author show up makes them both be winners. All we ever got out of the arrangement was sales. We were required to promote the event via posters and book displays of the author's particular title in conspicuous areas in the store. We often got a range of authors, ranging from celebs to newer ones who were just starting out. So sometimes you get authors who show up with a Lincoln town car and a driver, and other times you get an author who shows up in his/her pickup truck.

I've been out of this world (the retail part, I'm still in the writing part) for a little bit, but I believe Zondervan is still the largest Christian book publisher. So I imagine they have no trouble footing the bill for Kate. At the chain that I worked at, our District Marketing Manager was the one who booked events. I worked closely with him for our particular store. So the DMM and the rep from the publishing house would meet and make arrangements. Depending on how much of a prima donna the author was, we would get a list of requirements/demands. Some were normal like "only signs books with sharpies" and others were absurd like "only drinks Dasani". I solemnly swear I am not making that one up! I would love to see Kate's list of requirements, I bet it would make us chuckle:)

Ryan's Mom said...

Can You Imagine? Being young, healthy and attractive, having 8 healthy children, a beautiful home, no financial worries, and not having to commute daily to a drudge job - and still being miserable, crabby, mean and ungrateful? Wow. I stop watching the show a long time ago, but I still watch some Discover Health shows and it is impossible to avoid the commercials for J&K. In every one, she looks dour and unhappy. Unless this show is used as training for psychiatrists, I wonder why anyone would be interested. How sad. Especially in this economy with so many struggling just to stay afloat. Turn it off, change the channel, and let her be miserable.

Pink said...

Lisa, I totally agree with your comments about the children being able to live a more healthy and "normal" life while Kate is AWAY, jet-setting around the country selling books about her poor kids. I especially agree with this statement from you, " How many times on camera have we seen the kids themselves freak out because they got dirt on their shoes, clothing, hands etc...".

We have often seen the kids do that, and it disturbs me when the boys freak out over getting dirty. I recall when Joel was running bases and starting crying when he got some dirt in his shoes. Why does Kate not see the damage she is instilling in her kids? Why is Jon unable to stop this madness? My wish is that Kate seeks medical help for her OCD afflication, for her kids sake. But, considering how proud she is of her issues, I doubt this will happen. Her OCD has become a main theme of their show.....in fact it always has been a theme of the show. Afterall, it is about KATE all of the time, just the way she likes it.

It's clear her bond with the kids is diminishing and I think that is a good thing for all of their sakes. I bet Jon is feeling some freedom too because he can play with the kids without her riding him, faulting him, and overall ridiculing him every step of the way.

Jazz said...

Regarding the Gumgate incident, when I was about 4, I was staying over at a friend's house, and I must of done something wrong because her mother threatened to cut the head off my favourite teddy bear and throw it in the bin. I was devastated! She didn't, and the bear and I got away unscathed! So my heart broke for poor Collin. Who says that to a child? I hope Kate didn't throw his toy away after the cameras were turned off.

OutofControlKate said...

Donna, that youtube clip of Kate exploding at Jon because he let Leah watch TV is real, but I believe the bleeps were added for comedic flair (not really funny, but yet it shows how severe her actions are).

I'll never comprehend how Kate has a following and is perceived as the mother of the year considering this is a pattern for her. These outbursts and temper tantrums are a constant theme of the show. What is she teaching her poor vulnerable children? Sad.

My5blessings said...

I can't believe so many of you think that video of Kate cussing Jon out over TV watching in bed is real. It's SO obviously a joke and meant to be, and SOOOO hilarious...

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I didn't think it was real, but... I will say I didn't think it was hilarious at all.

Actually my thought was I could pretty much guarantee you they BOTH curse when the cameras are off.
Jon and Kate are a joke on t.v and off ........... whenever I hear a "J&K fan" use the term *celebrity* in reference to those two--- Now that is hilarious!

Just one mom's humble opinion though.

lindahoyt said...

Jasmine, we have all seen this episode, and some nitwit has just included the beeps to make it seem like she cussed him out. She did not say any filthy things. This is a slanderous video.

She is bad enough, without having to make up lies like this!

Ava's Mommy said...

New picture of kate I saw today on the net. Talk about a new make over. She had about a pound of makeup on. Jon looked like he had perma grin. HA HA

it was intouch

Donna said...

Just wanted to add: when I say that the video was a joke and that I thought it was funny, I meant that the person who put the bleeps in is funny. It just showcases Kate's disaster of spousal abuse to the max. I meant its hilarious, because its SO accurate.

mary said...

Ryan's mom said....Unless this show is used as training for psychiatrists, I wonder why anyone would be interested. How sad.

That is hysterical! I only watch the you tube spots (and the green epi) and I think it's so sad to have this large house and yard and not enjoy it. She has no friends, family to entertain or socialize with. It's just her and the kids (who can't have fun in the house) Oh wait I forgot about the non-staff, but hell...her life sucks.

I'm looking forward to going to the summer community pool, gardening, hiking, beach trips etc. What does she look forward to? Sitting in the house all alone while the kids play outside all day?

Boring.

NCLindsey said...

VB -

QFI will be in Hampton Roads tomorrow (Tuesday 04/28) at a Borders in Newport News. I believe the signing starts at 5 PM, according to the Borders website. If you go, you should probably get up there early... rumor has it, she has been whipping through the lines of adoring fans super fast and leaves after 30-45 minutes. I live down in the OBX, and thought about going, but I don't think I will be done with work early enough. I would hate to make the 2 hour drive up there just to find out she left after signing books for only 30 minutes! Hopefully her and the family will come back to the OBX this summer - am keeping my eyes and ears out for Sprinter van/camera crew spottings!

Abby said...

We all talk about how different Kate was in the early shows...how she was much more loving with her children. But one trait I recall from the very first show was her blatant lying. That first hour was made to look like Kate ALL ALONE took care of the kids and the house all day. But even the casual eye saw the sticky notes with instructions EVERYWHERE in the house. One note in the kitchen's addressed to "lunchmaker". Hmm...well acording to Kate, SHE was the lunchmaker everyday...Then there are the seating and sleeping charts..Jon and Kate really needed those? Don't most parents know where their kids sleep?

I did not hear one word about helpers that whole hour but we know they had a full staff of volunteers. It just says to me Kate's never had any trouble with lying...funny considering she's a "born-again Christian"...doesn't the Bible refer to satan as the "father of lies"? I bet we never see any bible verses about that in any of her books though.

My5blessings said...

Just wanted to add: when I say that the video was a joke and that I thought it was funny, I meant that the person who put the bleeps in is funny. It just showcases Kate's disaster of spousal abuse to the max. I meant its hilarious, because its SO accurate.
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Donna,
Absolutely! Totally agree.

samcarter said...

I watched an episode of "Table for Twelve" the other day---the one where they all go to the dentist--and I was just struck at how different that couple is from the Gosselins.

When they interview the Hayes' for their segments, they're at the kitchen table, usually, with coffee mugs in front of them, just sitting casually. Not in a speshul, decorated corner of the basement "away from the kids". Seems like the Hayes are able to make sure the kids don't barge in the kitchen while they're filming.

The Hayes are usually casually in physical contact, the husband will have his arm over his wife's shoulder or something. They let each other talk, and don't correct each other in a nasty way in front of the camera. They are able to laugh at each other and with each other.

There was one really precious moment in the episode, when one of the sextuplets went and changed his shirt to match his dad's. The dad said that lately, his son had been matching his outfit to his dad's, down to the shoes. "He's pretty much a daddy's boy," the dad said, and they cuddled in a real way.

I don't know. When I watch the Gosselins I just keep thinking "Fake, fake, fake..." and when I watch the Hayes they just seem more real. The dad is an actual man, the kids do act up but the discipline is calm and reasonable--one kid snitched a doughnut after being told he couldn't have them, he hadn't eaten his dinner--and was subsequently told that he would get no doughnuts the next day. He whined, but the dad held firm and there was no yelling on the dad's part.

They do point out the complications that come with having a large family and one with special needs, but you never hear the mom saying things like "We're a fertility clinic nightmare" or "we got more than we bargained for," or "I'm gonna lose my mind."

Plus, the dad actually has a frakkin' job. Beat that, Jon!

Abby said...

I forgot something about that first hour...Kate describes the babies daily schedule. She got them up for breakfast at 8:30, put them down for their nap at 12:30 and didn't let them up til 4:00. Baths and bed are at 7:30. She said in a later episode the tups stuck to that same schedule so these kids were always expected to be in their beds 16/24 hrs. a day! Of course, it's different now since they have school, but it's really astonishing when I think back on it. WHY did this woman ever have kids?

Terri said...

On the Gumgate/trashed lovey issue. I am 41 years old. In a special and secure box I have the first teddy bear I ever owned, and the last I was ever given. The first was bought by my father while my mother was in labor. He bought it at the hospital gift store and the first picture that was taken of me included that bear. My mother made sure that bear was cared for and even with its ears chewed and fur rubbed off in places, she SAVED it for me. I found it in her things after she died with a note from her to me, explaining the whole story of how it came to be mine. Let me tell you, my mother was not always the kindest or most sensitive of mothers!
The last bear I ever owned was given to me by my grandmother when I was 12. With great ceremony we declared it my last teddy bear and I loved the stuffing out of it. Grandma made sure that bear was saved for me.
I treasure them both still today and on special occasions I take them out for my son to see.
My son is just a couple months younger than the tups and I would NEVER dream of threatening his lovey. In fact, once he lost his stuffed cat at the local Target and we had announcements made, walked the store and looked for it, asked anyone we saw if they had seen it. I can still hear him saying that he was so worried because he had promised his "Petty" he would take care of him and keep him warm. He and I were both so distraught I went back later in the day alone and was able to find it. His eyes shone with love when it was returned to him.
I can't imagine anything more cruel than for a parent to take out their rage on something so meaningful to a child, any child, but particularly a child of their own they claim to love.
That scene made me sick.

Jane in California said...

As to keeping our children's snugglies, or blankies, or other mementos from their childhood:

My son is now 11, and I still have his "blankie", a well worn and loved green blanket with a satin edging. My son has always been very tactile, and it was the satin edging that seemed to soothe him and that made him love his blanket so much. It is carefully kept in a large ziplock bag along with bits and pieces from his babyhood. And when he is sick and feeling lousy, I still take that blanket out and use it to cover him up.

We have an oversized teddy bear he won't let me get rid of, and the rocker I used when he was an infant, and I would sit in it and feed him. His dad gave that to me before our son was born, and so we keep it.

These little things mean a lot. I think Kate's internal world must be a pretty barren and bleak place.

lindahoyt said...

Check out THIS WEBPAGEAnd tell me what last name Kate has written there???!

Casey and Smudge said...

Gumgate - I bet Kate did throw out the toy (chewy towel bear?) with the gum on it. It wasn't perfect anymore - ruined like the girls' clothes at Disney World.
Children don't see that something they love is imperfect. A short while ago my mum sent me home with a box of my childhood toys - to share with my children, hint hint. In it was a cabbage patch baby with her outfits that grandmother sewed two decades ago. In my mind she was perfect - peachy, baby powder-scented, and soft. Not so! She's missing stitches, has bunchy stuffing and pulls from the velcro on her well-faded clothing (hand-washed and hung to dry too often), has dirty hands from the sandbox, rubs and crayon marks on her little face from playing school, and discolouration on her feet from days spent at the edge of the pool. She had a full life of being my "baby" until she was forgotten in a toy bin in the basement - probably where she lost that powder scent!
My mum could have tossed a lot of my toys - Barbie with her new haircut (thanks brother), the Care Bear who ate peanut butter, the Glo Bug who chewed bubble gum in bed and got it all over himself and in my hair... but she let me keep them, and helped me clean them up. I learned that things, no matter how careful you are, can't stay flawless and be used or loved at the same time.
Would I love my cabbage patch more today if she was New-in-Box? Not a chance! Everything comes out in the wash, except for the memories.

lindahoyt said...

When my son was 5 years old, we found out that he had a very serious condition, that had stunted his growth, and caused him to have an impacted bowel. He had to have his bowel resectioned...on the day after Christmas...he was very sick over Christmas too...anyway, all during his babyhood, and childhood, he had a little "Gund" bear, that he slept with. "Baby bear". That bear comforted him all through the scary surgery and recovery. But, after a couple of weeks, when we went to the doctor's office for a check up, during a snow storm, "Baby bear" was dropped! We didn't know it until bedtime of course, and we could not find it anywhere. I thought it may have fallen on the ground when I lifted my injured son into the car, from the doctor's office.

Immediately, my husband took off, and drove the 20 miles into town, in a snow storm, to search for the bear! When he got to the parking lot the snow plow was there, clearing the parking lot off all the snow! He whispered a quick prayer, knowing how much that bear meant to his only son.

Did I mention that the bear was white?

But, my husband searched until he found that bear and brought him home....and was a huge hero to my son, then, and now. My son knows that his dad would do anything for him, if he would drive through a snowstorm, and search through several feet of snow, just on the possibility that he would mend the broken heart of his son.

Then to see Kate threaten to throw her Precious little boy's "beary" away... Hey, that just isn't what loving parents do.

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