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christy4977 said...

Do Jon and Kate have any friends? You never see them doing "normal" things that people do with friends. They just do things with themselves...even people with lots of kids do "normal" things with other people-Tupperware party, zoo, ice cream shop, etc. Do the kids have any friends? It seems like they just do stuff with themselves.....

Ava's Mommy said...

getting free tommarow night all.. Looks like it was just a plug to save all the fans. oh and to get some freebies.
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Fans and foes of the hit TLC series Jon & Kate Plus 8 will be happy to know that Kate Gosselin is in fine form on the Jon & Kate Plus 8 Go Green special airing at 9 p.m. Sunday.

The Gosselins and the eight kids have this fabulous house, and now comes Steve Thomas, of Renovation Nation, to do everything from install solar panels on the roof to making a picnic table out of reclaimed wood, at no cost to her, and what is Kate doing? She's kvetching.

Not big-time kvetching at first. Kate always starts low key and then builds. But she hasn't got even a hint of a smile on her face from the moment the workmen arrive.

"I don't like projects still. I don't like dishevelment. And Steve Thomas," she says, giving a twist to her voice to mock the name, "wants me to get all excited... I mean, I was excited about this going green or whatever."

Thomas quickly gets the drift of the Kate-led household, and when the solar panels don't arrive on time during the day of installation, he asks Jon, "Is you wife going to beat you up about this?"

And Jon, revealing his survival strategy, says, "We just won't tell her."

There is some green learning to be done in this special, but mainly it is an hour intended to keep the big audience for this show happy until the new season starts May 25 -- and to remind fans and foes of what a warm and friendly person Kate can be.

I give it three and half stars for Kate's uncanny ability to instantly put a whole household and all the workmen on edge with the cranky tone of her voice and sour look on her face.

karma said...

The ironic thing about kate is that the very people that she is trying desperatly to distance herself from; normal, middle class, is the exact people she has to pretend to engage at her book signings and church chats. While on the other hand, the person that she attempts to emulate; a thirty something, hip, organized, power woman, is probably an accurate description of the person least likely to even know who kate is, or, if she did, would consider herself to be among her harshest critics.

In order to keep the gravy train rolling, kate has to slither into remote book stores and random churches and face a room full of naive women (mostly) that represent her greatest fear; mediocrity, giftbags and all.

yea, good luck with that.

I'm just sayin said...

Kon-ceited (conceited) Kate is my new name for Kate.

Had she maintained her sweet motherly attitude then perphaps more people would like her.

Annies said...

OK locals in Berks County. Help me out here. Where in the heck does Katie Irene get her hair done? Is it the Bell Tower? Cynergy? or what other snazzy place? I want to go there and ask what drugs the stylist takes before she creates this monster of a hair style. That flap on the one side drives me nuts and she is always pushing it back shen she leans over. Gad that has to be annoying as hell! We could make it a contest! Only kidding!

BostonBean said...

They showed her having her hair done before. It looked like some teeny little shop.
The Asian woman working on her mumbled something about "Oh, she always has to have her spikes in back." as she was spiking up her hair. That was actually before it became such a heavy curtain over her eye.

Scruffy's Mom said...

Ye gads! That flap of hair must get caught often in her mouth when she eats ... oh yah, she doesn't eat.

Mikemom said...

In reference to Kate's comment we won't be filming in the kids bedrooms anymore.....I just had a thought, season 5 filming, Kate yelling "get down here now we're ready to start" off in the distance we hear 4 bedroom doors slamming shut..............

I love my son! said...

WTF! Now Discovery Health is showing J&K reruns on Tuesdays! I'm affraid they're here to stay. I have stopped watching J&K all together and have not seen a Table for Twelve. I'm sick of these glorified money whores. People act as if Kate is the second coming of Christ. It's not like God himself came down and massaged Kate's uterus to make her have a litter kids. Kate is the Ice Witch from Narnia.

blamingoftheshrew said...

I am so tired of this freak show with Kate being the biggest freak! No more, I am just going to say NO to this show and I'll be a happier and healthier person. She is so repulsive that she raises my blood pressure.

Aunty KimKim said...

A few thoughts:

Did you know that in 2008, they had 60 SHOWS, many being an hour long. (And this was JUST the 2008 shows). Now, please someone tell me, if they only have camera's there 2-3 hours a day, 2-3 days a week, HOW did they manage to produce 1 1/6 shows,(the average per week), on that schedule???

Considering how many hours you need BEFORE editing, how in earth could all that taping be "NORMAL" for anyone, esp. the children.

Then, here's another thought: The upcoming season: either a return trip to Hawaii, and/or a trip overseas,...somewhere they adopt a child...homeschooling begins...K is never at home due to all her 'book' promotions, (anyone seen this book yet? It's a horrible book and if you look carefully, IT"S ALL ABOUT KATE!-it actually begins with a photo of Kate).

I wonder, with the "NON-NANNY" there, who's the main caregiver since K is only home approx. 5days a month.

LASTLY, did anyone hear about this upcoming May 7th PROTEST?? Apparently, and this is TRUE, there's a group of people forming to go to NYC in front of where the NBC morning show is going to be, (sorry don't remember the exact place, but its where Kate is doing that live morning show), and they're going to PROTEST against Kate and what she does and promotes, and PROTEST to try to protect the children from further EXPLOITATION!!

If I lived close I would go! So is there anyone here going?
If so, I'd love to hear how successful it turns out...!!!!

Thanks all!

Shari said...

Karma ~
Everything you said was exactly right. In that case; she better get used to being miserable.

RobyninReadingPA said...

OK locals in Berks County. Help me out here. Where in the heck does Katie Irene get her hair done? Is it the Bell Tower? Cynergy? or what other snazzy place?

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Well, it isn't Hair on the Avenue. I've already asked my stylist from there. One shop down, more to go.

Lisbeth said...

I know I have asked this before, but I can't seem to find an answer.

Does anyone know, are the kids being paid for being on the show? Do they have money being put in an individual trust for their appearances, money they can access when they are 18?

Just curious. Thanks!

Gypsy said...

Does anyone know, are the kids being paid for being on the show? Do they have money being put in an individual trust for their appearances, money they can access when they are 18?

Kon have had many opportunities to clarify these concerns but continue to refuse to do so. Why would that be?

Ann said...

Besides the issues that I have like most postersd on this site about the show & Kate, I really wish that TLC/J&K+8 would stop glorifing have multiple births of 5/6 kids. I happened to look at a website that gives information about all the sextuplets born. I went there to find infomation about the Masche family. The Morrison family had sextuplets 1 day after the Masche were born and 5 out of 6 died over the first few months. There were other very sad stories of both babies and mothers having horrible complications. There was a story of a family whose father did work and had to work out of town to make enough money(would not take handouts) and only came home on the weekends and the mother was alone with the 6 all week. Even if TLC just ran a special on one/some of these other families to show the reality is in most cases you do not get 6 healthy kids (I know the Hayes have a child with CP, but from watching the do not seem to claim the CP was caused by the multiple births). TLC will show a story of overweight indivduals who pass away, so we know that they are not opposed to a medical show with a sad ending.
I went through fertility treatments after having an ovary removed. I was so scared of multiples, I took 1/3 of the does of fertily medication to be safe (so did a friend of mine) and we both eventually got a single child birth.

timetogokon said...

LASTLY, did anyone hear about this upcoming May 7th PROTEST?? Apparently, and this is TRUE, there's a group of people forming to go to NYC in front of where the NBC morning show is going to be, (sorry don't remember the exact place, but its where Kate is doing that live morning show), and they're going to PROTEST against Kate and what she does and promotes, and PROTEST to try to protect the children from further EXPLOITATION!!

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If my family still lived in Jersey, I would totally go.I would make a day out of it : go into the city to meet up with friends, have lunch and window shop. Take a few hours to protest, then meet up again with said friends for more fun. I SO hope this protest comes to fruition!

Addison said...

Do Jon and Kate have any friends? You never see them doing "normal" things that people do with friends. They just do things with themselves...even people with lots of kids do "normal" things with other people-Tupperware party, zoo, ice cream shop, etc. Do the kids have any friends? It seems like they just do stuff with themselves.....

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Jon and Kate used to be friends with Beth and her husband, Bob, but like Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin, these two have all but disapeared from the show. There is speculation that Kate either ditched Beth (the way she did Jodi) or Beth and Bob decided not to be friends with the Gosselins anymore. Personally, I'd go with the latter. The Gosselins (Kate in particular) are toxic people and Beth and Bob would have been very smart to remove that kind of negativity from their lives. Would you want to be friends with Kon? I imagine that friendship was extremely stressful and emotionally draining for Beth.

As for the Gosselins (kids and parents) having so few friends, that's one of the saddest things about the show to me. This family is so isolated not only from friends but from extended family as well.

overwithKON said...

did anyone hear about this upcoming May 7th PROTEST?? Apparently, and this is TRUE,
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I would be there in a heartbeat if I could, I live in MN, and she wont ever come here cuz its COLD. Will someone go for me?????

Deb said...

Anonymous karma said...

The ironic thing about kate is that the very people that she is trying desperatly to distance herself from; normal, middle class, is the exact people she has to pretend to engage at her book signings and church chats. While on the other hand, the person that she attempts to emulate; a thirty something, hip, organized, power woman, is probably an accurate description of the person least likely to even know who kate is, or, if she did, would consider herself to be among her harshest critics.

In order to keep the gravy train rolling, kate has to slither into remote book stores and random churches and face a room full of naive women (mostly) that represent her greatest fear; mediocrity, giftbags and all.

yea, good luck with that.

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What a perfect post..I haven't read something so true in ages. Yes, Kate panders to those she despises the most, but in this arena it's where she feels most superior- standing tall with pride above the "commoners".

Those she seeks to be like would never want her company. She is a scoundrel and a rube... teaching people how to cook homemade meals and doing children activities when she knows nothing of either of those things.

How to have a happy family? Yea, I'll take advice from her when she actually HAS a happy family. I know dysfunctional families who have much more happiness and love than her KONpound.

SaNdY said...

I would venture to say, IMO, that Kon has no clue as to how to be 'friends' with another couple, they only know how to manipulate people into helping them....and rationalizing it by saying 'Their goal is help us'...and then after Kon has used said 'friends' they throw them away like a used tissue...without so much as a thought...I say this because anytime you saw a person (Beth, Bob, Jodi, Carla, Beverly, Janet, Kevin, and a brother-in-law who was helping Jon paint the twins' room in the 'old' house) other than Jon or Kate in the episodes, they were nearly always helping Kon, you never saw Kon helping anyone...except if you want to count that scam of a garage sale they had last year..

SaNdY said...

I hope there is a HUGE protest on May 7 and hopefully, the networks cover the c**p out of it!!!

want Kate to just read Bible once again said...

I am sending this for the first time. I just couldn't help wanting to address something about show.

I used to be a fan of show(family), I thought Kate was a great mother, cooking, cleaning, potty training, and all that was great!

but recently, it is getting really unpleasant to see Kate bossing around Jon and kids. I don't know either of them personally, but if they claim to be Christians, I want Kate to read scripture once again. not just the ones says God provides.
Doesn't God tell us to be "submissive" to our husbands? Doesn't he call us to submit to our husbands even if they are wrong? it doesn't mean that wives have to be like slaves, but He tell us to influence our husbands without "words" but with godly attitude. We are to be a supporter for our husbands and kids. not the leader of household. (I am still struggling this area as well, and it takes a lot of faith to continue work on this area) God created us so that man does not have to be alone.that's why we are here for at first.

It is not only unpleasant to watch as a Christian, I think it is damaging image of being Christian. They are not spreading gospel at all. as a Christian, we are supposed to carry the image of Jesus, by showing love and compassion to others and most of all being humble.

God knows everything and anything. She might be truly believes in Jesus, and claim to love God. but don't they remember, somewhere in Mattews(sorry i cannot recall exact verse number), Jesus said, "Not everyone who comes to me and says, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but those who DOES my will, will enter the kingdom of heaven." again, what is God's will for them?

I am not against financial blessing they have at all. I am happy for them. If God gives people a financial success we are not to be jealous of that. but What they need to know is that, their success is not necessary from God. i say this because Kate was the only one ho wants to continue to season 5 out of her husband and most likely her kids' wish. does it make "her" decision brought extra money into household?

I might be wrong but I can't see what Kate is doing (being away from home for so long, (working to meet ends meet is not what i am talking about.) is what God had planned for her. It is not consistent with Bible. I am no place to say what's God's will for them, It just makes me sad that person who has a lot of influence to a lot of people claims to be a Christian, and has no character of being like Jesus....



I truly pray for this family. for Kate to be convicted, so that she can go back being a great mom and just love and have fun with her family.

AnneMarie said...

Interesting afternoon pondering. There are actually NINE baby geese on the homepage. Maybe they WILL adopt !! LOL! Gotta be matchy matchy.

Sandi said...

Good afternoon everyone. I just seen a picture from Kate's booksigning last night in CA. Someone took a picture of their book that Kate signed. Right above her signiture in big letters is Beth Carsons name of course. I was just wondering what goes through Kate's mind when she signs all thoses books right under Beth's name. It has to get to her I would think.That is if they are not really friends any more.

so irritated said...

There have been several posts recently from people who claim the constant scrutiny the Gosselins receive here is as obsessive as the fans adoration of them. I beg to differ.

The Gosselins offered themselves up to the media the minute the tups became viable in Kate's womb. http://web.archive.org/web/20040507015619/www.sixgosselins.com/News/
(click on the Patriot News article)

Jon and Kate made the decision they were not going to live a private life with their kids and find a way support them- they chose to thrust their family into the public eye and have their kids support *their* lazy butts. With that poor decision comes much public scrutiny and criticisim, all of it richly deserved.

Jon and Kate are hypocrites- modern day snake oil salesmen. They want to star in a reality show, they want people to watch it and buy the products they are shown using, but approach Kate at the mall and she recoils in horror that you dared to speak her. I live in Central PA. I recently heard from someone who lives in the E-town area that Kon, but mostly Jon, would call the police on a regular basis complaining that people were on their lawn, parked in front of the house, or driving by repeatedly. (the latter two being perfectly legal) The local police had a name for him I cannot repeat here, but basically they told him "then don't be on TV." As recently as September '08, Kon was still working the church circuit, crying their struggling parents of multiples spiel and saying they don't know how they will send 8 kids to college (only 10s & 20s in that love offering plate-thank you!) As they spoke those words, they were in the process of searching for million dollar estates while taking grocery money from housewives. I could go on but we all know the rest. Nothing we see is real or genuine. Yet there are people who will not see the light and keep buying the books, watching the show and making and buying the kids gifts. By doing this, they are ensuring that the show will be in production for many more years. The people who say the G kids "have a great life" get real. We all thought many of the child actors we watched growing up had great lives. Not so much. It's not a case of which ones ended up messed up, it's a case of how few child actors managed not to be messed up.

In the meantime, since I started following this blog 2 more HOM multiple/large family shows have debuted on TLC, another one is starting soon. Nadya Suleman already had 6 kids but still went for more IVF, resulting in octuplets. "I'm not looking to be on a reality show" she says, as she's desperately shopping for a reality show deal. Children who happen to be born as six or more multiples should not be turned into side shows for profit. It's an ugly trend that needs to be stopped. Enough is enough. Please do not confuse the power of the many voices here for obsession, when in actuality it is persistence.

very sad said...

karma said...
The ironic thing about kate is that the very people that she is trying desperatly to distance herself from; normal, middle class, is the exact people she has to pretend to engage at her book signings and church chats. While on the other hand, the person that she attempts to emulate; a thirty something, hip, organized, power woman, is probably an accurate description of the person least likely to even know who kate is, or, if she did, would consider herself to be among her harshest critics.

In order to keep the gravy train rolling, kate has to slither into remote book stores and random churches and face a room full of naive women (mostly) that represent her greatest fear; mediocrity, giftbags and all.

yea, good luck with that
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Exactly ....except for the NY and NJ book signing. (Who did they have to pay for that?)

I notice she is not signed up to come to New England.(CT specifically). She is emulating her idea of sophistication and class which I guess in comparison to her rural PA upbringing is up a notch or two.
I find her very sad.

Hamburgler said...

I figured out Kate's hair.

It resembles a crown on her head, and we all know she thinks she's the queen.

katethenannystate said...

I've been on vacation so I've had some time away from the TV to ponder this, but two points:

1) this really annoying guy with five kids at our condo pool said his fave show was J&K+8, which made perfect sense since he was making snarky comments about my 3 1/2 year old being able to swim alone in the pool without my helicoptering over her. This led me to thought #2

2) Kate is a role model to helicopter moms everywhere. The neurotic, hyper vigilant mom who wants everything to be "perfect." A day at disney with ice cream is "ruined" because the horrendously #3

3) Kate is masking some serious insecurities with her act. I don't feel sorry for her, but in her narrow little head she the big fish in her small little pond, reigning over her adoring minions who can only hope to be like her (helicoptering, flailing their hands, having others take care of her).

She's a symptom of a bigger problem in this country. Looking for a handout/bailout/nannystate to take care of everything.

Sorry, I'm getting all kinds of philosophical tonight!

kathyv said...

I think the hair stylist (just from seeing her on the show one time) is Su Andre, a former Philly stylist with a trendy shop in West Reading. Just an educated guess.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

Since I could not afford it, my Internet connection was stopped. For the last 6 weeks, I had neither cable nor Internet, and guess what...I survived!! Kon will go on, whether you or I are there or not...My blood pressure has dropped from 200/120 to 112/80...Go figure, not being with Kate is keeping me alive...

Reading news said...

kathyv said...
"I think the hair stylist (just from seeing her on the show one time) is Su Andre, a former Philly stylist with a trendy shop in West Reading. Just an educated guess."


Kathy,

Isn't Su Andre's shop right on Penn Avenue? The one time Kate drove to the hairdresser, before the trip to Disney, she definitely was not in a commercial area like Penn Avenue. That shop looked rather rural to me. Was her shop always in West Reading?

areuserious said...

I was at Target this evening and flipped through Eight Little Faces.
For someone that boosts of being a 'best selling author', Kate's new book fails to impress and quite frankly presents itself as nothing more than a scrap book 'project'.

Shari said...

I'm not convinced Kate uses a hair stylist. It seems to me that look can be accomplished with kindergarten scissors and a mirror .... on second thought, forget the mirror.

linda said...

I also flipped through the book today at Super Target and that book is a joke..

I have a feeling that once Kate gets wind of a protest on the 7th that she will either back out, or she will demand that the NBC staff remove the protesters.. I am setting my DVR for the 7th, I am not going to miss this..

zoey said...

i love that the show best week ever said kate gosselin should be on Tool academy 2. lol

flgirl said...

So I read the article in LHJ and I wonder what Kate did when she realized they'd made a mistake?

On the 2 pages before the article are pictures of each of the kids with a little caption about the child.

Next to Cara's picture it says..."Cara is her mother's little helper" So I was like "Whaaaat?" So I looked next to Hannah's picture and it says "Hannah is a true daddy's girl" ROTFLMAO!!!! :-D :-D :-D

I wonder if someone's head is on the chopping block? :-X

Inksmudge said...

The April 30 issue of Rolling Stone had a very interesting article about Hulk Hogan, in which the following was written. It's supposed to be in connection with Hogan and his VH1 show "Hogan Knows Best", but I was struck by how true it is of Kon as well:

"Reality shows exaggerate, intensify and exacerbate every problem you have," says Patrick Wanis, a so-called celebrity life coach who once worked briefly with the Hogans. "In a family situation, your emphasis turns away from raising your children to worrying about how you look to the cameras. And all that exposure and fame can result in delusions of grandeur, where not only do you engage in acts of stupidity, but you develop this sense of invincibility. You begin to think 'I'm a god. I can do anything I want. I'm untouchable.' And then reality hits."

May all those precious children be protected when reality finally hits...

We said...

I went to a book store today and I picked up a copy of Eight Little Faces and read the lies Kate put in it and then I placed the book in the FICTION section.....Ha ha ha.......

She is just plain mean! said...

Annies said...
OK locals in Berks County. Help me out here. Where in the heck does Katie Irene get her hair done? Is it the Bell Tower? Cynergy? or what other snazzy place? I want to go there and ask what drugs the stylist takes before she creates this monster of a hair style. That flap on the one side drives me nuts and she is always pushing it back shen she leans over. Gad that has to be annoying as hell! We could make it a contest! Only kidding!

4/18/2009 6:19 AM
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On one of the episodes she asked the stylist to cut it shorter so she wouldn't have to keep tucking it behind her ear. She said, "I don't have time for that." (The tucking behind the ear.)

But that was when she was younger, cuter and much nicer. Yes, there was a time when she even was nicer -- I guess that translates to "Not as mean as she is now."

Auntie Anne said...

Dear Inksmudge,
Boy do you have that right! It could have been writting specifically about Kate.

Mary P said...

Observation Here said...

...I also don't see how one can say that the Gosselin family is exploiting their kids but the Masche family won't be exploiting their kids once their television show.

Is it because they work?

They are more attractive to you?

Jenny is a "real" blonde but Kate isn't?

Were the Masches nicer to their neighbors than the Gosselins?
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The answers to you questions are:
1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) and yes


You made this really easy.

ihateeveryone said...

Kon have had many opportunities to clarify these concerns but continue to refuse to do so. Why would that be?Hmm... maybe because it isn't anyone's business??

ICExploitation said...

At the signing in Pleasant Hill, Kate sat under a sign that said "Business and Money Management". How apropos.

flippysmom said...

I found this on Youtube. It's a video posted by the Dilly family-the ones with the Dilly sextuplets. I think they are about 15 now, but this is when they were three, and went to Disney World. What a refreshing change from Jon and Kate. The kids are having a blast, nobody is upset that they are getting messy, they don't have to dress alike...I could go on and on! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMmd5BLlF_w&feature=channel

Tami said...

I'm not convinced Kate uses a hair stylist. It seems to me that look can be accomplished with kindergarten scissors and a mirror .... on second thought, forget the mirror.
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It does look like a homemade kindergarten haircut crafted with rounded, plastic play scissors and painted with watercolors. That is a bit of an insult to my 4 year old who just gave her a homemade haircut with HER play scissors. But she did a much better job. In fact, people actually like it. lol.

Miss Brwon Betti said...

CHOMP CHOMP...That is what Kate was telling little Leah when she was learing to cut with sissors. Perhaps that is what Kate told the hairdresser when she cutes the back of her hair scare...CHOMP CHOMP!

shmedelle said...

Can someone please help me out here? I bought two T-shirts for both of my kids', at Wal-mart (for their Easter baskets), along with other goodies. And that, at the check-out, felt like a real splurge. The shirts were $7 each. And super cute. If I were to go to Gymboree, I'd have to be out of my mind. Where does she get off thinking 8 kids need the super- expensive-mall-stuff?

Am I the only normal one out here?

I saw her latest book "8 Little Dollar signs" at the store, and thought what a shakedown! At her children's expense.

What about the book signings? I never heard of an author doing SO many book signings??! And she isn't even an author!

Who are these numb-skulls who worship her? Please help me with this one.

PAmama said...

I think it's Diane's Hair Designs but I'll have to drive past it.

MomIAm said...

ihateeveryone said...
Kon have had many opportunities to clarify these concerns but continue to refuse to do so. Why would that be?
Hmm... maybe because it isn't anyone's business?? Ordinarily, I would agree with you if this was about people in private circumstances. However, people are questioning something on TV that has frequently been presented as being the real deal. How often have you heard Kate say the show is unscripted and real. The Gosselins put themselves out there to earn money, knowing there would be consequences. Granted they may have seen only the dollar signs. With a TV show comes trappings that include people talking about the show and speculating about what it all means. This is different from scripted drama/comedy shows, where I believe it is wrong to talk about the private lives of the stars, which are not being televised and should be kept private. The content of this show is their life story.

Maybe there are lessons to be learned here. If this is the way people across the USA treat their families, we are in a lot more trouble than I thought! While I agree that a few remarks in this forum are unkind, the majority are talking about real incidents about adults who are rude, insensitive, mean-spirited, and selfish towards people you would expect them to care the most about. We see people treating loved ones badly and naturally begin to question what it all means. We see a mother telling her children not to step one toe into her bedroom or there will be dire punishments. We see kids thanking the mom and her telling them to tell someone who cares. There are dozens of examples that come readily to mind. How sad is that. I watched three shows at the start of the new year, and with each new show became more appalled. You won't find me protesting in person, but it caught my attention enough so that I wanted to voice my opinion about parenting and how pathetic I find the people on this show.

In the minority said...

I give up. Child exploitation is child exploitation whether you like the kids or not, like the parents or not.

lifeoriley said...

ihateveryone: "...maybe because it isn't anyone's business?"

Ok---technically, you're right, it isn't really anyone's business (except the IRS) what one does with one's money. However, when you put yourself in the public eye, people start to ask questions. And when you make your life into a reality show, those questions will increase tenfold--about everything, not just money.
Now, when you do a reality show about your life and include filming your children in very private situations, and do about 80 episodes over three years, people (society) will question whether that is in the best interests of the children. If your rationale is, "it's all for the kids," then, naturally, people will question as to whether any non-revocable trusts have been set up for them.
If the show is, as Kate has been quoted as saying "the hardest job" she's ever had, how can it be said the kids aren't working?
Under PA Labor laws, "the continued presence of children in the workplace constitutes children working." So, if your home and family trips are the "workplace," and the children are present, they are, in fact, working.
The so-called "Coogan Law" in CA was set up for the very reason that parents cannot always be trusted to do the right thing when their children are working. Child Labor laws were enacted by states because some parents and employers abused their power over children.
So, historically, society has made it "it's business" to protect children in the workplace. And the Gosselin children are working--make no mistake about that.

AmyC said...

ihateeveryone said...
Kon have had many opportunities to clarify these concerns but continue to refuse to do so. Why would that be?Hmm... maybe because it isn't anyone's business??


Wrong. When you profit (big time) off of having cameras invading your home on a regular basis, you can't pick and choose what is everyone's "business". You don't buy just the silo and one cow - you buy the whole farm.

Ava's Mommy said...

I too looked at 8 little faces when I was at wal-mart. LAME.. They were selling it for $10.00

I would never make a book and sell it with my children pictures in it. Famous or not.. What are you going to do with it anyways? Dust Collector.. Paper weight door stopper..

Hey has anyone thought of going to one of supermom sigings and cleverly just taking the cover of mult blessings.Placing it on another book. Your book of choice. Do you like she would flip?

Stacey said...

I'm desperately trying to avoid watching TLC all day today, but I have a feeling I will get sucked in at some point. I hate that I've become 'addicted' to the show - I had never heard of J&K+8 until after I had my daughter in January and was perfectly fine not knowing what kind of people the Gosselins were.

It bothers me so very much when Kate won't let her kids be kids. Isn't getting bumps and bruises,and learning from your mistakes part of childhood? What kind of people will these kids be in 10-20 years when their mommy isn't around anymore to tell them right from wrong? Of course they kids will be homeschooled now - can't let someone else help develop them into strong, intelligent people. I can't imagine what it's like to not have any friends like them - they are going to be so ill-adjusted to the real world when they leave home... if Kate ever lets them leave home.

Long story, short - my frustration with this family knows no bounds. I'm sure Jon & Kate love their kids like every other parent does, but the dollar signs are starting to make that love look pretty disgusting.

tire of KON said...

So, how long do you all think it will be before kate tries to market dolls of her children or a clothing line.....they don't ever want this gravy train to stop!

Arwen said...

I would never make a book and sell it with my children pictures in it. Famous or not.. What are you going to do with it anyways? Dust Collector.. Paper weight door stopper..That is so true. Especially with the book coming from a mother who says her family does not like to be watched or stared at. There was a post from someone who went to one of Kate's talks. She said an audience member asked where the kids were. Kate said they didn't come as they didn't like to be 'stared at'.

Soooo Kate goes and publishes another book containing the photos of her children so that they can become even MORE recognized by even MORE people who will continue to stare at them.....

MomIAm said...

My cynical side says that there is a possibility they are home schooling, that rumor is true, to get more attention for the show. Another possibility is that the older twins may have been teased at school. That is sad to think about. Bullying is worst than ever in our society, and something the teachers/administrators either aren't always aware of or don't have the right tools/skills to address.

karen0101 said...

"Doesn't God tell us to be "submissive" to our husbands? Doesn't he call us to submit to our husbands even if they are wrong? it doesn't mean that wives have to be like slaves, but He tell us to influence our husbands without "words" but with godly attitude. We are to be a supporter for our husbands and kids. not the leader of household. (I am still struggling this area as well, and it takes a lot of faith to continue work on this area) God created us so that man does not have to be alone.that's why we are here for at first."

As a survivor of domestic violence I find this attitude to be dangerous and potentially harmful to young girls who are taught this. No one should have to submit to their spouse, male or female, if they are wrong. Marriage shouldn't be like a lifetime jail sentence. To whoever wrote this---if your husband ever behaves like a jackass and you have to occasionally grab the reins and be the leader of the household for the sake of your children then do so. If hubby accuses you of not having a Godly attitude then he can shove it. I can assure you that God wants us all, even women, to be happy and fulfilled in life.

DirtyDisher said...

I think GWoP and it's members should be very proud. YOU are the reason Kate isn't going to have camera's in the kid's bedrooms anymore. If she's telling the truth (for once in her miserable life) you guys helped those children get a bit of privacy and respect, because there is no other reason Kate would address that situation.

Now get the cams out of the bathrooms, Kate. For good. That's not right at all...and you've always known that.

Today Show Protest said...

Stop Glorifying Child Exploitation

Gosselin kids work to support their parents

Stop the Greedy Gosselins

Just a few of the posters and signs I would make if I were able to get to NYC with you lucky people for the protest at the Today Show. We know they always show people and their signs. Please, those of you who go take pictures for the rest of us, okay?

Ms.Peach said...

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/
entertainment/zontv/2009/04/kate_gosselin
_susan_boyle.html

New article in Baltimore Sun. Note the praise for Susan Boyle and the negative responses to Kate. Also, read uberfan's response to article.

konspiracytheory said...

From a previous poster:

"Doesn't God tell us to be "submissive" to our husbands? Doesn't he call us to submit to our husbands even if they are wrong? it doesn't mean that wives have to be like slaves, but He tell us to influence our husbands without "words" but with godly attitude. We are to be a supporter for our husbands and kids. not the leader of household. (I am still struggling this area as well, and it takes a lot of faith to continue work on this area) God created us so that man does not have to be alone.that's why we are here for at first."

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Karen 0101 said:

"As a survivor of domestic violence I find this attitude to be dangerous and potentially harmful to young girls who are taught this. No one should have to submit to their spouse, male or female, if they are wrong. Marriage shouldn't be like a lifetime jail sentence. To whoever wrote this---if your husband ever behaves like a jackass and you have to occasionally grab the reins and be the leader of the household for the sake of your children then do so. If hubby accuses you of not having a Godly attitude then he can shove it. I can assure you that God wants us all, even women, to be happy and fulfilled in life."

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Amen, Karen. I posted a similar sentiment a few weeks back - nice to see I've got at least one other like-minded individual here regarding this topic!

timetogokon said...

Actually 3 1/2 is too young to be swimming alone. Swimming and drowning accidents happen to this age group all the time.

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I agree. How great of a swimmer can a 3 1/2 yo really be ? Little swimmers NEED to have parents "helicoptering" over them in the swimming pool and even more so in the ocean.

Even Michael Phelps wasn't a superstar swimmer until he was 11!

Denise said...

The submissive always bothered me but this one works for Kate:

An excellent wife is the crown of her husband but she who shames him is like rottenness in his bones. Proverbs 12:4

konspiracytheory said...

I like that one, Denise!

Katerina said...

To TORI:

I live in Everett (I know, sad but true) and heard that HRH was doing a book signing in Bellevue. Lucky you, you were able to see what a real live monster looked like!
Three hundred signings in one hour is just absurd - I can just picture in my mind exactly what you described and once again a wave of nausea hit me
I'm really surprised so many east-siders showed up though...for Kate Gosselin of all people??!! It boggles the mind

mary said...

2 things.

First, my child was swimming last year (age 4) he could jump off the high dive and all. I always kept a CLOSE eye on him. He's my third child and the only one who swam at such a young age. I am in the pool with him at times, but he's a natural at swimming (unlike his brother and sister)

#2. I went to a major bookchain yesterday to a get a book by a REAL author and I didn't see "8 faces" or "multiple blessings". They had a Mother's Day display and neither book was there. Are these books only in Walmart, Kmart and Target? Or is this chain catering to actual readers?

HUH said...

First, my child was swimming last year (age 4) he could jump off the high dive and all. I always kept a CLOSE eye on him. He's my third child and the only one who swam at such a young age. I am in the pool with him at times, but he's a natural at swimming (unlike his brother and sister)

I am sorry to keep harping on this but 4 is to young to be swimming alone. I'm glad you kept an eye on your child but swimming and diving accidents can happen in the blink of an eye and no toddler knows what to do, they are going to panic.

Harriet said...

Four year olds are pre-schoolers - not toddlers. Toddlerhood usually ends around 16 to 24 months. I had two who swam well by age four and I never did more than sit beside the pool or perhaps float around the pool when they were swimming. I found I was actually more observant of them when I was OUT of the pool rather than in it. They never had anything resembling a serious accident or needing rescue and are adults now.

When they were true toddlers an adult was always within arm's reach of them. Four year olds who can actually swim the length of the pool unaided don't require that kind of contact.

L said...

"Are these books only in Walmart, Kmart and Target? Or is this chain catering to actual readers?"

I've actually seen multiple blessings out on display at barnes & Noble's. I was in there yesterday though and didn't see the 8 faces.

timetogokon said...

First, my child was swimming last year (age 4) he could jump off the high dive and all. I always kept a CLOSE eye on him. He's my third child and the only one who swam at such a young age. I am in the pool with him at times, but he's a natural at swimming (unlike his brother and sister)

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When they were true toddlers an adult was always within arm's reach of them. Four year olds who can actually swim the length of the pool unaided don't require that kind of contact.

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I do agree that if your young child is a strong swimmer, the parent might not necessarily need to be in the pool or within arm's reach, but the parent still needs to keep a very watchful eye. The tone of the original post was that this type of monitoring was considered "helicoptering" over a child, which is where I disagree.

My 11 yo is a very strong swimmer and in a place like a water park, as long as he's with a buddy or other responsible person, I feel comfortable enough when he goes off on one of the wilder rides. At the beach, however, I still check on him to make sure he is not too far out in the surf.

HUH said...

Last post on the subject.

Protect Your Child From Drowning
With These Simple Pool Safety Tips

Drowning is one of the major causes of accidents resulting in serious injury and death in children. Parents should not be fooled into thinking that their child is safe just because he/she knows how to swim. In a lot of these cases accidents happened even though the child knew swimming. Accidents in the swimming pool can happen very suddenly without warning. It is very important that all parents follow these basic safety precautions especially if there is a swimming pool at home.

Never allow your youngster to swim alone without any adult supervision. It is quite common to develop a cramp underwater, or for accidents like hitting your head while diving for example, to occur. It is paramount that there should be persons around to help in such situations.

Do not allow children with no knowledge of swimming in or around the pool. For good pool safety make sure that all kids above the age of 4 attend a certified swimming class, or atleast learn basic flotation techniques and life saving techniques in case of accidents. Children younger than 4 should always be accompanied by their parents in the pool.

Not my recomendations.

Martina said...

karen0101 said...

**"Doesn't God tell us to be "submissive" to our husbands? Doesn't he call us to submit to our husbands even if they are wrong? it doesn't mean that wives have to be like slaves, but He tell us to influence our husbands without "words" but with godly attitude. We are to be a supporter for our husbands and kids. not the leader of household. (I am still struggling this area as well, and it takes a lot of faith to continue work on this area) God created us so that man does not have to be alone.that's why we are here for at first."

As a survivor of domestic violence I find this attitude to be dangerous and potentially harmful to young girls who are taught this. No one should have to submit to their spouse, male or female, if they are wrong. Marriage shouldn't be like a lifetime jail sentence. To whoever wrote this---if your husband ever behaves like a jackass and you have to occasionally grab the reins and be the leader of the household for the sake of your children then do so. If hubby accuses you of not having a Godly attitude then he can shove it. I can assure you that God wants us all, even women, to be happy and fulfilled in life.**

In defense of clarifying scripture, let me expound (with the OP's blessing, hopefully) on what it is talking about.

We have a modern day word (and with it comes a huge negative connotation) called submission. We think of it as a way to control someone, that they must submit to our every command.

This scripture speaks of both the husband AND the wives' roles in the family, and if you'll read the entire passage, you'll see that it is not just picking on women and that there is an element of submission that grows our relationship with Christ.

I am *NOT* referring to people who abuse the scripture and demand that wives submit without they themselves doing as Christ asks. Any couple that genuinely places God at the center of their relationship will see the fruits of adhering to those roles.

Society paints these roles as archaic and outdated, but I think they are as relevant today as they were back then.

It's unfortunate that we have people in relationships who abuse their role and for those situations (such as abuse of any kind or addictions or substance abuse) someone has broken their covenant with God first, spouse second. In those situations it becomes a necessary thing for the abused spouse to do what's best for the family.

Sorry for the PSA, but this scripture definitely deserves more than just a simple "I will not submit b/c I'm a woman." God calls us *all* to submit.


This is referenced twice in the Bible, once in Colossions 3:18-24 " Wives, be subordinate to your husbands, as is proper in the Lord.
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Husbands, love your wives, and avoid any bitterness toward them.
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Children, obey your parents in everything, for this is pleasing to the Lord.
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Fathers, do not provoke your children, so they may not become discouraged.
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Slaves, 9 obey your human masters in everything, not only when being watched, as currying favor, but in simplicity of heart, fearing the Lord.
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Whatever you do, do from the heart, as for the Lord and not for others,
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knowing that you will receive from the Lord the due payment of the inheritance; be slaves of the Lord Christ."

*and again in Ephesians 21-30*
" Be subordinate to one another out of reverence for Christ. 6
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Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord.
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For the husband is head of his wife just as Christ is head of the church, he himself the savior of the body.
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As the church is subordinate to Christ, so wives should be subordinate to their husbands in everything.
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Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ loved the church and handed himself over for her
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to sanctify her, cleansing her by the bath of water with the word,
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that he might present to himself the church in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
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So (also) husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
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For no one hates his own flesh but rather nourishes and cherishes it, even as Christ does the church,
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because we are members of his body."

Chris said...

I wonder how they'll celebrate the tups 5th birthday and if they'll be showing it on the show. I have a feeling they'll be going to DisneyWorld for their birthdays.

Somewhereinoh said...

#2. I went to a major bookchain yesterday to a get a book by a REAL author and I didn't see "8 faces" or "multiple blessings". They had a Mother's Day display and neither book was there. Are these books only in Walmart, Kmart and Target? Or is this chain catering to actual readers?

Kudos to that major bookchain for not putting on display an author that supports child exploitation in the same reference as Mother's Day. Wise decision on their part.

ThePaginator said...

Leave Harriet alone!!
Her kid can swim or else she wouldn't have mentioned it!!

Inksmudge said...

Auntie Anne, I know--I couldn't believe how appropriate it was to Kon's situation. But then again, it shouldn't surprise us. Living in a fishbowl is healthy for no one. Look what happened to the Hogans post-reality-show: they're in the middle of a nasty divorce, the son went to jail because of a car wreck that severely and permanently injured another person ... heaven help these kids when the poo hits the fan...

HW said...

I recently watched a couple of minutes of the episode where they are in Hawaii.
Mady was not allowed to go make cookies with the other children because of her attitude. That is fine to discipline her that way, but Kate sets a terrible example. I've said this before. Kate's attitude is so often hateful and she brings the spirit of the whole family down; yet she doesn't give any thought to how her behavior affects everybody else.
The same goes with how she over reacts to everything and then punishes the children for doing so.

I truly feel sorry for Mady. She is modeling her own mother's behavior. She gets punished for it while mommy gets rich for behaving the same way.

Harriet said...

Harriet is back. I didn't mean to stir up a firestorm, but people treating four year olds like infants (a la Kate at times) can get on my nerves. My kids survived and are now independent fully functional adults. I was a pretty good judge of how much and how closely they needed to be supervised. Children need to be allowed to mature at a rate that is appropriate for them. It was appropriate for my kids. My husband was a lifeguard and water safety instructor. I'm sure he'd have had something to say if he thought the kids were in danger.

BTW, I'm the product of a helicopter mom. Thank the stars above that I was born stubborn and independent or she would have ruined me. I started telling her to "buzz off" around the age of two. I would never do that to a child.

Sharla said...

Just a reminder calling other posters stupid is not allowed. We each have our own parenting style and one person's three year old may swim well while another's is scared of the water. Please show consideration while explaining your point of view. Thanks.

paymeback said...

Jon Gosselin and Kate Gosselin,
Pay back the taxpayers!!
I am so tired of bailing people out and now to see you exploit it makes me so angry when I work so hard.

champori said...

I posted your website on my facebook. I also connected to your facebook :))Everyone should do it.

dontgetittwisted said...

"Do Jon and Kate have any friends? You never see them doing "normal" things that people do with friends"

J & K HAD friends. Remember Beth & Bob whose presence mysteriously disappeared from 'reality ' at the same time as Aunt Jodi. They forever RIP with the numerous others who were contractually silenced and cast in to the abyss of J & K's 'those who dont understand us'. The only 'friend' of J & K Gosselin is their love affair with greed.

Sarah said...

I just saw rerun of cupcakegate. I never have seen the boys denied the cupcakes. That was pure torture. The poor kid ate chicken. Give him his cupcake. I could have beat the parents right there. Then they let the girls eat them in front of the boys. A t least they could have let the boys leave the table first. That was the worst set of parenting I've seen.
I skipped going green. I'm better at going green since I don't use 10, 000 paper plates a day.

Anonymomma said...

I agree with Sharla. Let's not fling mud at other moms on here. Name calling is more Katie Irene and I think we are all better than that, than to stoop to her level.

aunt of twins plus 2 said...

i used to be a fan of the show but as their heads and wallets have gotten bigger i have fet sicker. besides the agreed upon issue of the exploitation of the kids the thing i most feel sorry about is these precious children for all intents and purposes no longer have a mommy or a daddy or at least one that puts them 1st, even hannah doesn't seem to be getting the attention she once got. i thought the parent's job was to raise a good person who cared about others teach them right from wrong and all the other basic things a child learns along the way and then when they are old enough they let them fly their wingsconfident in the adult their beautiful child gas become. jon and hate have taught noneof these things to their children except screaming,a sense of entitlement and to latch on to anyone who shows you even the slightest kindnessi expect their will be aot of trouble w/the girs when they begin to have boyfriends-needing to be loved by a male because they never felt it from their father assuming they are et out of the konpound to date

aunt of twins plus 2 said...

i used to be a fan of the show but as their heads and wallets have gotten bigger i have fet sicker. besides the agreed upon issue of the exploitation of the kids the thing i most feel sorry about is these precious children for all intents and purposes no longer have a mommy or a daddy or at least one that puts them 1st, even hannah doesn't seem to be getting the attention she once got. i thought the parent's job was to raise a good person who cared about others teach them right from wrong and all the other basic things a child learns along the way and then when they are old enough they let them fly their wingsconfident in the adult their beautiful child gas become. jon and hate have taught noneof these things to their children except screaming,a sense of entitlement and to latch on to anyone who shows you even the slightest kindnessi expect their will be aot of trouble w/the girs when they begin to have boyfriends-needing to be loved by a male because they never felt it from their father assuming they are et out of the konpound to date

dolphinfoxx said...

Ok, I took my kids to Blue Marsh Lake yesterday. On the way home,(which it's on the way) we drove past the KON pound. This was the first time I've seen it with my own eyes and I have to say, they SOOOO play down that house on t.v. The side and back of the house are HUGE and look very nice. I don't think they've shown it at all on the show. The only vehicle that I saw was the white van(though this was around 11AM, so I'm guessing they were at church). There were bikes and such laying around in the driveway. What my husband first noticed as we drove by, which I thought was hilarious, was that their mailbox has been hit and smashed up! LOL My guess is that some other "haters" took something and bashed it up. The box was open and you could see mail in there. I guess no one was home to get the mail the day before...

Ms.Peach said...

In early episodes, the impression was that the couch interviews were done at night after the day's filming. Reading about Jon's bloatiness and red mark on his face, it stands to reason that this couch interview was done during the same time frame as the final couch interview of Season 4. They are frauds and knew that they already had one new show in the can even if it wasn't the official first episode of Season 5.

tallblonde said...

caught a part of the "Good Housekeeping cover" re-run yesterday and something Kate said REALLY stuck with me....

something to the effect of "It was so sweet to see them playing like little kids - they have new people to play with...this was their reward...."

Kate - news flash: they ARE little kids - not just little income streams - and wouldn't it be nice to have other LITTLE KIDS for them to play & be friends with? The only "friends" these kids have are the people they meet in the whole "Jon & Kate" pursuit of their exploitation.

Last Straw/I Hate Kate said...

I agree with Ava's Mommy 100% about J&K+8 Go Green. Kate's behavior was shocking: a new high (or low) in rudeness, sarcasm, ungraciousness, petty digs, selfishness and mean-spiritedness.

She has no sense of humor to begin with, except for her love of laughing at others, especially at her husband's perceived language errors...when no one mangles the English language more than Kate. But the way she treated Steve Thomas was unprecedented, even for her. She generally lashes out whenever offended, about anything, and here she was attacking people who were doing nothing more than installing fantastic solar panels, etc. to save her big $--and the planet in the process. Baking cookies? So what--she did it just so she could simmer in her anger in the kitchen and feel morally superior to all.

It's okay to have issues, and no one's perfect, but it's not okay to inflict your issues and character flaws indiscriminately and full force on other people, particularly people who are doing you an extravagant kindness. Kate is an adult--whose tanning and weird hair add about 10 years to her age, besides--and needs to grow up. I think she should spend some of the huge revenues from doing this show on some long overdue therapy. Jeez, if seeing yourself act atrociously on TV isn't enough to instill in you some sense of self-awareness, it's time to call in the experts.

I love the kids, but I can't deal with this horrible woman any more. It's terrifying to see the shape of diva Mady to come, and sad to think I'll never see sweet Aunt Jodi again.

Ann said...

I did not watch some of season 4 because it was too much for me to stomach. I sure did not want to watch the new house episode. Last night I wasn't feeling well and the rerun of the new house was on after midnight so I watched a bit.
Our local real estate market is still a mess so I looked at over 200 homes before buying and I could diffentely tell the house was huge, they did not hide that from me. My first floor is 1800 sq ft and that first floor was so much bigger so it was easy for me to tell it was over 6000 sq ft without reading the specs online, plus you could tell there were acres of land. I was sick of hearing the kids needed this. I live in Utah and I can't tell you how many families of 8+ kids would love J&K old house. My husband had 15 in his family in a 2000 sq ft home with one bathroom! My best friend had 12 and there house was 1400 sq ft and everyone went to college and has done well in life. A big house does not equal happiness or sucess. In fact I grew up in a big house with more bathrooms then people and my husband looks back on his childhood way happier then mine. His brothers and sisters were always outside building stuff and playing games.

I stopped watching after the master bedroom talk. I had read about it on the board but it was worse then I thought it would be. I admit my husband and I feel like our room has little privacy. There are stuffed animals on the floor, kids that come in our room early in the morning, and right now my youngest is coloring a card on my bed. It is one thing to say do not sleep in our bed every night or leave toys in the room, but never see the room again? What if the are sick?

It makes me wonder...is Jon sleeping in the bedroom? or does Kate not want the kids in so they find out dad sleeps elsewhere? Is there a live in helper to take care of the kids at night if they are sick or need something?

me said...

New t-shirt slogan for Kate Gosselin:

"Abuse is never having to say you're sorry".

Amy said...

I hate to say it here because you all hate what she said but my kids aren't allwed in our bedroom either. That is the rule.

WallyWinnie said...

Did Jon refer to the garage with the 1st solar panels being installed by Steves Crew as: "my crib"? After just reading anothers post regarding Jon possibly sleeping somewhere else, as the reason Kate said no kids were ever allowed in the master bedroom or would be SEVERLY punished! I wonder if Jon stays out in his new garage CRIB with the TLC crew? No wonder this house would work out perfectly for their "needs".

PreK Teacher said...

Here is a topic that I would like to open up for discussion on a new thread

Besides making filming and traveling easier,also for isolation/protection, do you think Jon and Kate are now homeschooling because they are thinking toward the future and about the sextuplets entering kindergarten? Do you think the subject of some of the sextuplets are ready for kindergarten and some are not? (which in my professional opinion might be true) Would Kate send some off to Kindergarten and keep some back in pre-school? Or would she keep them all back? Homeschooling is the answer to this dilemma, no one will ever know what grade they are in. Who would do they homeschooling...I pray to God not them. They will have to hire a private teacher. What do you all think?

marylou said...

Question - I just found this site in the last month. I noticed that at least 3 websites that do general forums on TV shows permanently shut down their J&K8 threads sometime during 2008. Was this a concerted effort by KON?

rissapa219 said...

What is the difference in J&K being paid for being on their TV show then every other person on tv getting paid? Are all actors/actresses/reality stars not deserving of their financial gains because they dont have "real jobs"? What is a "real job" anyway?

Just asking

Aunt Chris said...

Homeschooling? Good Lord, I hope not. Neither parent is smart enough, Kate is not home enough and those kids need to be and interact with others! (not ALL kids would pick on them.)

Did you see how the kids were sucking up the attention from Steve Thomas and his crew during the green special? How badly they want some attention!

mary said...

PreK --

I can't see Kate actually homeschooling. I could see her hiring private tutors for the tups so they could keep filming during the school year.

My son is the same age as those children and his speech is better than theirs. This is NOT saying much because he had 2 years of speech therapy because he was deaf for the first 18 months of his life. (long story short...his ears tested fine at birth, but once the therapist asked us to retest it was discovered that sound was blocked from unseen fluid..once the tubes went in things got much, much better)

I think KON needs this gravy train to continue to run. They must run through the money pretty quick with all those "toys" they keep buying.

Mother of Two (We wanted more , but didn't have the audacity to expect someone to give us donations to support them) said...

Everyone, please go to Oprah's website and flood it wtih e-mails about what a hypocite and con-artist Kate Gosselin is. Kate has been on Oprah twice, and I'm sure will be on again to hype her two new books and new season. Oprah has been conned by several guests before, and when she realized she was duped, she not only apologized on air, but it became a major media event when Oprah realized she was lied to. Hell has no fury like an Oprah scorned! Oprah has the power to make or break someone. Oprah endorses a book, it soars to the top of the best seller list. Oprah endorses a little known man, he becomes president of the United States. Oprah is deceived by someone, she does not hold back in letting the world know that person is a fraud. Oprah has the power to expose Kate Gosselin for her fraud. Please write, fax and e-mail Oprah! Do it! Do it now!

Abby said...

Last November, before I even heard of GWOP or any of the Gosselin controversies I saw this "blind item" on a celebrity gossip site...

"This reality show couple who basically makes a living being a couple is not really the couple they pretend to be. It seems that not only do the couple not sleep together, most of the time they do not even sleep in under the same roof. Can’t stand each other, but suffer through pretending for the sake of the money. Not who you are thinking. Think bigger."

At the time, I thought it could be a number of reality "couples" but now I'm really thinking it's Jon and Kate.

UCLAstudent said...

A couple days ago, I was shopping at Whole Food in Westwood, UCLA after class. As I was approaching the cereal aisle, I got cut off rudely by a woman but I didn't get a chance to see her face as there was a man following behind her. She then proceeded to turn around and happened to face me and it was none other than Kate Gosselin. She was definitely not friendly and looking as bright as a carrot/orange (haha.. her fake tan is soo awful). She looked at me up and down and walked away. That day, UCLA was really cold (around 40s) and she was wearing the shortest dress with a 5inch heel. I assume the man following her around is her manager or bodyguard. Jon was not around. I think it's so ridiculous that she's trying so hard to be some mega celebrity.

SD Jo said...

Haven't had time to read all the posts, so forgive me if this has already been posted. Funny article:
http://glosslip.com/2009/04/20/jon-and-kate-plus-eight-season-5-aka-mommie-dearest-and-the-spineless-man/

Bella said...

Regarding jon's crib comment I've always thought since they moved into the new house jon either sleeps in some part of the basement OR it looked like there was a separate bedroom above the HUGE-ASS garage. Didn't he say "crib" when they were scaling the garage (which by the way is the size of my parents house). Jon always had a problem with not keeping his mouth shut tight enough, whether they are trying to "fool" the viewers or not, his true colors leak out and I wonder if that was one?

Would also explain kate's over-the-top evil speech of no kids in the bedroom ever. I suspect mady/cara already know that mommy and daddy don't share a bedroom though. In time so will the tups. Whether the show will go on for more seasons I don't see keight's marriage lasting much more then a year or two. Most marriages go through rough patches and I'm not a marriage counselor but this looks far worse then a "rough" spot. I'm sure neither would go to counseling for various reasons which I think might be the only thing to save them at this point. Neither of them can hide their disdain for the other and both are stupid enough to let their true colors show while saying "they're a family" while the producers struggle to show any snip of that to back it up.

Mark my words in two years keight will be divorced and the show will be gone and kate will be trying to "market" herself somewhere else.

Chris said...

Did anyone see that Kate latest money maker, instead of book signings or church talks?
On 5/14 she is having a tea with Kate for $150 in Detriot! Then she is going to be at a local hospital at the labor and delivery section for $36 you get a pre-signed book.
I guess it is easier to get to the books presigned? then you can leave when you want.
$150 for tea? Does she think she is the president now? what next $500 dinners??

Alexandra said...

I didn't know where else to put this question. I was watching the marathon type special TLC ran this weekend and they had their wedding special, and their trip to NC. I just have one question that has probably been addressed before but Who exactly is Jenny and how is she is the Gosselin's "inner cirle". I wonder if they pay her, or if the free trip is payment enough.

timetogokon said...

Mother of Two:

Oprah knows EXACTLY what she's doing by endorsing the Greedy G's. She is making money off those kids also - I believe she now owns/co owns Discovery Health, which owns TLC ? ( Sorry if I messed that one up - there were so many details going back and forth I may have mixed up some information).

I used to be a HUGE fan of Oprah - now she disgusts me just like KON and just like everybody at TLC. She exposed James Frey for his deceit, I don't know why she(and all the other major media outlets) won't expose Jane and K8, who are 100x worse than James Frey because they are involving innocent children.

If you do write Oprah, it should be to shame her for being a part of child exploitation, not to "enlighten" her about the KON scam.

karma said...

For years I've been spreading peanut butter onto a slice of bread, then I'd put banana slices on one side, then I'd stop. I didnt know what to do.

But now, thanks to take, I know to CLOSE THE SANDWICH!

check this out;

http://www.lilsugar.com/2114812?page=0,0

Class Action said...

I wonder if the good folks of PA could get some kind of class action suit going to make Kon pay back the money spent by the taxpayers when the tups were born - they can certainly afford it now! IF they don't homeschool, I hope that the tups are at least put into different classes as they need to interact with other kids.

Ann said...

For some reason Oprah's site will not post negative comments about Jon & Kate. There is "the story" about them on the Oprah website. I logged in to post a comment about 1 week ago. I have had an acct on her site for at least 3 years(so it is not like I just signed up to post about J&K). I posted what I consider a mild comment (asking about the kids choices, growing up/moved saved/Kate being away) and it was not posted. I got no response to why it was rejected. I don't know if anyone else has tried because the same 10 comments have been there for the last week.

Lisbeth said...

Class Action--I agree. The G kids would benefit from being in classes with kids other than their siblings. I think I saw a clip in a show of J&K picking up the kiddos from preschool and they were all in the same class. What a disappointment. They each need to have an opportunity to explore their own world and personalities outside of the constant shadow of their siblings. It would be good for their social, emotional and academic development.

payusback said...

Class Action said...
I wonder if the good folks of PA could get some kind of class action suit going to make Kon pay back the money spent by the taxpayers when the tups were born - they can certainly afford it now!


I agree and our federal tax dollars. oohhh that hits a nerve in me.

Allissa said...

Anonymous karma said...

The ironic thing about kate is that the very people that she is trying desperatly to distance herself from; normal, middle class, is the exact people she has to pretend to engage at her book signings and church chats. While on the other hand, the person that she attempts to emulate; a thirty something, hip, organized, power woman, is probably an accurate description of the person least likely to even know who kate is, or, if she did, would consider herself to be among her harshest critics.

WOW! I agree with the other poster. This comment hits the nail on the head....You have described Hate to a "t", Bravo!

Allissa said...

I bet Hate now has her hairstylist COME TO HER!!!! She's way above walking into a local salon. Think of the "fans" that would follow....Lordy be! Gosh, I really feel sick about how much I despise that bitch

Allissa said...

rissapa219 said...

What is the difference in J&K being paid for being on their TV show then every other person on tv getting paid? Are all actors/actresses/reality stars not deserving of their financial gains because they dont have "real jobs"? What is a "real job" anyway?

Just asking
Respectfully, I would respond that if Jon and Hate were EARNING the money, more power to them! Take the kids off the show and see how much they earn. Exploit the kids to make the bucks!!!

Casey and Smudge said...

About peanut butter and banana sandwiches - don't you hate how the banana slices always fall off when you bite into it?
Me too, so I "discovered" that you can mash the banana into the peanut butter (throw in some jam if you like) and spread it on the bread! Tidy and tasty. Kate's messy way leaves greasy peanut butter stains on my clothes and I can't consign them!
Kate couldn't even eat a cute heart-shaped Valentine's grilled cheese with her kids, she was prepping her rabbit food instead. Seemed like the grilled cheese was the only real food on the kids' plates! And it could have been one of those thaw-and-serve sandwiches attacked with a cookie cutter, who knows!

Marie France said...

timetogoKon said:
I used to be a HUGE fan of Oprah - now she disgusts me just like KON and just like everybody at TLC. She exposed James Frey for his deceit, I don't know why she(and all the other major media outlets) won't expose Jane and K8, who are 100x worse than James Frey because they are involving innocent children.
If you do write Oprah, it should be to shame her for being a part of child exploitation, not to "enlighten" her about the KON scam.
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Oprah is no better than KON. She is an attention and fame whore our only for the $$$$$. I assume that because TLC and Discovery are now part of OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network), Orca (yes, as in whale!) is now protecting her territory to ensure those $$$$$ keep rolling in. She is no better than KON. She is such a hypocrite - she portrays herself as a goddess to so many people, taking up causes for disadvantaged children. Well, Orca, what about those 8 Exploited Faces? You, Orca, are nothing but an enabler. She makes me sick.

Marie France said...

Alexandra said...
I didn't know where else to put this question. I was watching the marathon type special TLC ran this weekend and they had their wedding special, and their trip to NC. I just have one question that has probably been addressed before but Who exactly is Jenny and how is she is the Gosselin's "inner cirle". I wonder if they pay her, or if the free trip is payment enough.
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Jenny Fromuth was an Elizabethtown local girl attending Elizabethtown College. She was an acquaintance or friend of Mark Gosselin, Jon's brother. She was their babysitter ("helper") for spring and summer 2008. She has a Facebook page and according to that, she is now a grad student out of state.

Courtney said...

We all need to comment on the below blog. It's listed above (Susan Boyle vs. Kate), but it's worth posting again. The "head sheeple" went crazy. Gotta' read it!

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/04/kate_gosselin_susan_boyle.html

2badsosad said...

Oprah is no better than KON. She is an attention and fame whore our only for the $$$$$. I assume that because TLC and Discovery are now part of OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network), Orca (yes, as in whale!) is now protecting her territory to ensure those $$$$$ keep rolling in. She is no better than KON. She is such a hypocrite - she portrays herself as a goddess to so many people, taking up causes for disadvantaged children. Well, Orca, what about those 8 Exploited Faces? You, Orca, are nothing but an enabler. She makes me sick.

Per tonight's airing of Nancy Grace, parents of the 'tot mom', Casey Anthony, are scheduled to appear on the Oprah Winfrey show in May (sweeps anyone?). These parents, (grandparents of the murdered Caylee Anthony) are refusing, under oath, to answer questions in deposition interviews but are willing to appear on the OPRAH WINFREY show and openly discuss circumstances involving/surrounding allegations in the case against their daughter.
Not only does Oprah Winfrey find it necessary to utilize her show to engage air time and promote child exploiters such as the likes of J & K Gosselin, she also takes advantage of circumstances involving the death of a small child and the media hype surrounding said to boost her own sweeps ratings!!!!

baska said...

An earlier poster asked if it wasn't part of childhood to get dirty, fall down and so on. I wholeheartedly agree that it is. However despicable Kate might be, though, I see her as an extreme example of the norm. Why must children wait for a playdate to interact with their peers? Mothers are increasingly reluctant to let their children out of their sight, and it deprives the children of some precious experiences. I can't see Kate showing anybody the door on a summer morning and saying 'be home by dark' but I don't know that she's exactly alone in her hyper-vigilance. She's the posterchild for it, and an extremely unpleasant one at that.

ucantbeserious said...

"On 5/14 she is having a tea with Kate for $150 in Detriot!"

I find it utterly ridiculous that ANY ONE would pay $150 to have 'tea' with Kate Gosselin!!
In these economic times, I cannot phathom ANY ONE justifying spending $150 just to sit at a table and raise pinkies with Kate Gosselin!!! Does Kate or her PR team have any idea of the current unemployment and forclosure rate in the city of Detroit?? Totally unbelievable!

Blue_Skies_Please said...

Our son is about 5 mos older than that tups. He's been in special ed preschool for speech delays and such. I have to say, with the delays he's had, he still seemed further ahead at the tup's age than they are.

This concerns me.

I think it very well may be from lack of being around other children, etc.

Our son has had speech therapy, OT and special ed preschool since he was 3, and is now on track for starting kindegarten.

Early intervention is so crucial.

I really worry about this.

Robin said...

Pre K Teacher: In answer to your question..IMHO..Kate doesn't want to send them to public school because:

1) she doesn't trust ANYONE to not take a picture of any of the kids...and the only way THAT is going to happen is if she makes $$ off it
2) She does not want the kids involved in picture day, group shots or field trips where said pictures can be taken
3) she doesn't trust the kids to keep their mouths shut and not tell whats REALLY going on...after all...you can't edit real life
4) She would actually have to get all the kids ready for school and then get them there....that's too exhausting...and she's so tired already
5) She won't be able to control what they eat,,,or how much
6) She doesn't want them to be independent thinkers
7) Homeschooling would be fresh fodder for the show and we could see just how wonderful Kate really is...
8) There wouldn't be a show if the kids were in school all day
9) Labor laws apply to children who attend school...limiting the hours they can "work" on school days...and that wouldn't fit would it?
10) Freebies for Homeschooling Moms!! ..are there any?

I homeschool my 2 kids and it's a challenge. Kate is not homeschool material...I'm sure they'll have to hire another "helper" for this one. Homeschooling requires patience and encouragement...Kate does not possess those qualities.

Sidney said...

Chris said...
Did anyone see that Kate latest money maker, instead of book signings or church talks?
On 5/14 she is having a tea with Kate for $150 in Detriot! Then she is going to be at a local hospital at the labor and delivery section for $36 you get a pre-signed book.
I guess it is easier to get to the books presigned? then you can leave when you want.
$150 for tea? Does she think she is the president now? what next $500 dinners??
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This totally infuriates me! That witch just gets more and more awful.

It sickens me that there are actually people who are so blind that they cannot see the real Kate, and pay money for the pleasure of looking at her.

timetogokon said...

I was just reading on a sheeple site that my comments about "making a day out of protesting in NYC on May 7" seemed to imply that I am making light of the protest -if there is one.

It was not my intention AT ALL to minimize the "cause" and anybody participating in it. My apologies if anybody was offended. I was simply trying to make a point that, if I lived closer, I would absolutely participate, but I would not OBSESS about it like the sheeple obsess about the Gosselins.

And to one of the commenters that mentioned that I would need to protest before lunch because the Today show is in the morning , my apologies that my timeline was off.

Newton said...

Jon must wake up every morning wondering how he got into such a mess and how to get out of it.

Tami said...

About peanut butter and banana sandwiches - don't you hate how the banana slices always fall off when you bite into it?
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I actually had one for lunch today and that doesn't happen to me. I ate them constantly when I was pregnant too. I put honey on mine. Maybe that's why it sticks together, but I would think just the peanut butter would make it stick.

Sweetie20 said...

It is very interesting that Kate was extra sassy on the Gosselins Go Green episode.
When Martha Stewart went to jail and she needed serious PR- I had read that the PR firm wanted Martha to not seem so perfect on her future interviews and shows so she was told to be a little b*tchy. After than Martha would fussy at people on her show, for things like the cream wasnt whipped enough, to So-and-so in the back kitchen. So it would show that Martha was real. To change her image a bit.
So is Kate just trying to seem like the way she talks ugly to EVERYONE is just cutesy and joking? That's the feeling I get. I can say mean things because I'm joking.
But it's not funny. It's mean.


Also, my husband and I have talked about how one day the children will be adults and have a voice. Then we will hear the real side of the story. The story that includes all the things that they hide now like maids, nannies, and travel. And who knows what else? Yes Dr. Phil, our parents had separate rooms the entire show. lol

It deeply saddenings me that Madi was pushed away. Ouch!
Kate never holds or plays with the kids! Never! It never shows her down on the floor laughing or reading to them (ok I'm wrong- she read to them that mouse book- it was a really thick one- that she was reading from the first few pages- so it was clearly for the camera and I'm sure not Kate's idea) No puzzles, no board games, no chasing outside or playing with the kids and dogs!!! How can you not play with your KIDS!!!

I didnt have the best mother in the world. She ALWAYS made me feel like a problem and thats how I think these kids feel. The using paper plates is one of the small but constant ways that you are reminded of being a problem. sad.

MissMooker said...

What is wrong with paper plate usage on occasion?
How is it "degrading" or treating someone as a "Baby?"
We use paper plates sometimes and yes even my husband and I , and we passed infancy a Loooong time ago!
Just sayin'.
Plus, Paper is biodegradeable. I would be more worried about those styrofoam cups .

lifeoriley said...

Re: Bella
It's entirely possible that Jon's "crib" comment (although I didn't see the episode) was referring to the 800 sq. ft. apartment that exists over the garage. In order to be listed as an apartment (as per the real estate site), the space has to have a bathroom and a kitchen/area.
So, Jon could be banished to the apartment (or seek solace there) if life with Kate gets too unbearable.

3angelsmom said...

Ucantbeserious said:
In these economic times, I cannot phathom ANY ONE justifying spending $150 just to sit at a table and raise pinkies with Kate Gosselin!!! Does Kate or her PR team have any idea of the current unemployment and forclosure rate in the city of Detroit?? Totally unbelievable!"
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You're right, not many can comfortably afford such an expense in these economic times. Seems she is trying to court those in a higher income bracket IMO. In all probability, the love offerings have run dry, the Expo appearances aren't lucrative enough and the homemade gifts bestowed on her at book signings are useless. Therefore, she's trying to expand her target audience to include a higher socioeconomic status by increasing the price of the individual admission ticket. But picked the wrong city. (no offense, Detroit)

blueskies said...

Did you catch the part where they were trying to get Kate outside, and Steve finally says to Jon "You're married to her"

Priceless!

Protect 8 said...

Kate Gosselin is scheduled to be on The Today Show May 7th.

It is time that someone asked Kate Gosselin the tough questions. Given all of the criticism offered up regarding Nadya Suleman on The Today Show, hopefully they will see the strong similarities to the Gosselins and ask Kate to address them.

Here is the email address for The Today Show:

TODAY@nbcuni.com

I admire those of you who are able to participate in a protest outside of the studio. Carry big signs and make a lot of noise!

Aeris said...

AmyC said...

ihateeveryone said...
Kon have had many opportunities to clarify these concerns but continue to refuse to do so. Why would that be?Hmm... maybe because it isn't anyone's business??


Wrong. When you profit (big time) off of having cameras invading your home on a regular basis, you can't pick and choose what is everyone's "business". You don't buy just the silo and one cow - you buy the whole farm.
I agree. The G's have been thrusting themselves in out faces for years now - they are that self important. My guess is that the great majority of their fans ARE fans because of the kids, not J & K. Fans and non-fans alike care deeply about those children. The family is making millions now, yet KON still claims they have no college funds for the kids. There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with that. Bottom line, they have made their lives our business. I want to hear that those kids are getting something from having their childhoods sold.

justdoit said...

Ucantbeserious said:
In these economic times, I cannot phathom ANY ONE justifying spending $150 just to sit at a table and raise pinkies with Kate Gosselin!!! Does Kate or her PR team have any idea of the current unemployment and forclosure rate in the city of Detroit?? Totally unbelievable!"

For all those individuals that are willing to pay $150 to have tea with Kate Gosselin, I have a better idea; Treat YOURSELF to a SPA day!! I promise you, it will be an hour spent on some one much more WORTHY of your time and attention! YOU :)

The Reese Family said...

Does anyone know what type of straw cups J&K use for the kids? I have looked and haven't been able to find them.

Dor said...

Here's what I don't understand. Up until their trip to Hawaii, they really never lived very lavishly. The occasional dinner out, or new shirt, but they really never splurged on anything other than carpeting. They had old furniture and Kate always dressed like most of us moms. I mean, since when did Kate really give a crud about Botox, or vaneers or all the other things she is doing? Did they scrimp and save and then drop the bomb with all the new this, that and the other? Trips are free so they don't count. House, clothes, cars.....all of a sudden. I hope this makes sense.

JaymeK said...

I am the mom of 3 young girls who like to watch the show. I usually let them since they simply like to watch the 8 kids that are close to their age. Yesterday, I noticed my four year old using the word "hate" several times. I am not a fan of the word and asked her where she had heard it. To my disgust, she told me that she heard Kate say it on the show. She actually said "Remember Mommy, Kate hates her camera." Recently, we went to Disney and my kids have been watching the KON Disney episode frequently in which she states more than once that she "hates" her camera. Thank you Kate so much for being such a wonderful role model. Maybe KON (mother of the year) could write a book telling regular moms such as myself how to deal with such situations. I wonder if she would even notice if her children said things that she did not like, or if she would be to busy in a fog of spray tan to notice. I used to be a fan of the show when it started because I could relate to some of their struggles as a middle income family trying to make it. Now I see her for the joke that she is and find most of the words that come out of her mouth absolutely sick.

On a different subject, does anyone else think that Mady is a little young for braces, or is that age the norm now? Just wondering if the braces were to pretty her up for her modeling/acting career.

gayle said...

Do you think there will ever be a point when the kids can stop dressing alike? It was kind of cute when they were little, maybe at a family photo. But that's about it. Just one more way they aren't allowed to be their own person.

kate is so blinded said...

Jesus said in Matthew 6:24

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."

Kate can't hear what God is telling her..... wake up Kate!!!

Pink said...

I emailed the Today Show to strongly comment on Kate's upcoming May 7th appearance to discuss her book "Eight Little Faces". Thanks PROTECT 8 for the email address. I received a response stating it is also okay to call them at(212) 664-4249.

Here is the email address for The Today Show:

TODAY@nbcuni.com

Aeris said...

JaymeK said:

On a different subject, does anyone else think that Mady is a little young for braces, or is that age the norm now? Just wondering if the braces were to pretty her up for her modeling/acting career.
It's not unusual for kids to have braces that young if they have severe problems. I think Mady has a crossbite, among other issues. I remember the OD asking Kate if Mady would be compliant enough for another treatment (palatal expander, maybe?), but she and Mady both said "no" almost immediately. So they went with braces instead. She may get stuck having braces twice, like my brother did at age 9 and then again at 12.

mary said...

I emailed the Today show last week about this imbecile. I listed the type of questions I wanted asked of her/it.

I suggest others do the same. They may surprise us.

Narcissism Please said...

i really have to give a huge 'thanks' to anyone who has posted links to the animated youtube videos.

the creators of those things are absolutely hilarious, and i literally laugh out loud .. big fat belly laughs, out loud.

i highly suggest that anyone who needs a giggle should search on youtube for these.
your day will be made.

4thekids said...

So I've been hesitating to post this because even though I'm fairly well versed on the topic, I'm certainly no expert. But since so many people have been talking about it lately, I figure I'd give my $0.02.

I'm a speech pathology student (who is almost done with school...hallelujah!) and have worked with children of many ages and with a variety of speech disabilities and delays.

I may not have years of experience on me yet, nor have I met the tups or given them any tests, but I have seen enough episodes to say with confidence that these children definitely would benefit from speech therapy.

For those who say that they think the tups sound good for being sextuplets, I have to firmly disagree. I don't care if Kate gave birth to 6 babies or 16 babies at once: at nearly 5 years old, these children are three years past the typical window of time it takes for severe preemies to catch up from a speech delay.

Early intervention is the key in this field, so I'm dismayed that the Gosselins have not taken this seriously and gotten their children some kind of services. Adding my personal opinion to this issue, I believe that J&K have not tried to get their children therapy because of the marketability factor: while it IS cute when kids say "yike" instead of "like," it isn't when it occurs at an age when that type of speech may be indicative of a disorder.

Btw, I tried to phrase this in a way that doesn't sound like I'm diagnosing...I'm trying to follow the rules, mods, I swear! :-D

Nancy said...

I think it is a great idea to write to the Today Show. However, I feel it is kind of a waste to give them questions to ask. They have already been asked in the past about exploiting their children and they always have an answer for these types of questions - like they aren't exploiting them and anytime the children decide they don't want to be filmed they will stop the show. They have been asked about how they feel about all the negativity about them and they just say they don't pay attention to it. Of course "God" will be put in the conversation somewhere.

To me, it it much more important to question the Today show why they are even giving these people more opportunity to use their children for financial gain. I would want them to know how ridiculous it is to give these people any time on TV. They have done absolutely nothing to deserve it.

Just my opinion and I will be writing the show.

Chris said...

I was wondering on the moving to the new house episode Kate says, Hannah get smigranes so she needs her own room? Then on another episode she won't let Hannah cut her hair? I have read that long hair espcially in young children is not recommended. If Hannah asked to cut her and it might help her migranes why would Kate not let her? If Kate really understand how painful migranes are, would she not want to help rather then chnace hannah knocking on her bedroom door sick??

konspiracytheory said...

4the kids said:

"So I've been hesitating to post this because even though I'm fairly well versed on the topic, I'm certainly no expert. But since so many people have been talking about it lately, I figure I'd give my $0.02.

I'm a speech pathology student (who is almost done with school...hallelujah!) and have worked with children of many ages and with a variety of speech disabilities and delays.

I may not have years of experience on me yet, nor have I met the tups or given them any tests, but I have seen enough episodes to say with confidence that these children definitely would benefit from speech therapy.

For those who say that they think the tups sound good for being sextuplets, I have to firmly disagree. I don't care if Kate gave birth to 6 babies or 16 babies at once: at nearly 5 years old, these children are three years past the typical window of time it takes for severe preemies to catch up from a speech delay.

Early intervention is the key in this field, so I'm dismayed that the Gosselins have not taken this seriously and gotten their children some kind of services. Adding my personal opinion to this issue, I believe that J&K have not tried to get their children therapy because of the marketability factor: while it IS cute when kids say "yike" instead of "like," it isn't when it occurs at an age when that type of speech may be indicative of a disorder.

Btw, I tried to phrase this in a way that doesn't sound like I'm diagnosing...I'm trying to follow the rules, mods, I swear! :-D"
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I completely agree. Two of my three children have had speech delays (received Early Intervention and services in preschool). It genuinely makes me sad to watch the Gosselin kids and know that they've missed the EI/CPSE window. Who knows why - parents too lazy and/or too invested in having the tups appear younger than they actually are - no matter what the reason, IMO these kids have been shortchanged by their parents yet again.

konspiracytheory said...

MissMooker said:

"What is wrong with paper plate usage on occasion?
How is it "degrading" or treating someone as a "Baby?"
We use paper plates sometimes and yes even my husband and I , and we passed infancy a Loooong time ago!
Just sayin'.
Plus, Paper is biodegradeable. I would be more worried about those styrofoam cups."
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No one is saying they have a problem with occasional paper plate use. However, it's not occasional in the Gosselin house - it's every meal, every snack, every day...

Coastiewife said...

I'm watching the Disney trip and it said her hairdresser's name is Dianne. It was in a gray building.

NIMBY said...

"PreK Teacher said...
Do you think the subject of some of the sextuplets are ready for kindergarten and some are not?"
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Exactly which of the tups do you think are really ready for kindergarten?

Their current behaviors of hitting, screaming, throwing things, back-talking, and the never-ending tantrums are an indicator those children are in NO WAY ready for kindergarten.

I wouldn't want my child in class with them.

Tess H. said...

I found this from an article about a speech one of Nadya Suleman's original PR people made recently. By 'she', he is referring to Nadya Suleman...

“The overwhelming reaction was diametrically opposite to similar stories in recent years,” Furtney said. “She is being vilified when others haven’t.”

He mentioned specifically the TLC reality show “Jon and Kate Plus 8.”

miss irene said...

I'm trying to figure out the timeline here. Let's see what we can put together..

*Jon was photographed with young, pretty, female coed *fans* around Valentines Day

*Kate has a meltdown during a telephone interview for Vday article about how she and Jon stay in love amid the chaos

*"Going Green" episode shows them celebrating Vday at home with just Kate and the kids inside (cards signed by mommy only..), but talking about the noise on the roof, Jon is seen outside helping with solar panels

*Oprah episode was aired March 9, meaning Jon was actually gone the first wk of March?


So Jon was photographed out and about, intoxicated and with females, in early Feb under the excuse that he was helping his mom. The Oprah interview aired March 9, so he was also gone the first wk of March? They made such a big deal out of Jon being gone to 'his mom's' but if it was the end of feb/early march then that doesn't really fit either...hmmm... And they were at home on Valentines Day getting solar panels put on. But very interesting that at the same time Kate got all huffy and couldn't think up 10 little things they do for their marriage...all very interesting don't you think?

ladylou said...

I just found out Kate is comin' to town! That town is in cash strapped metro Detroit. All the auto workers are sitting on needles & pins awaiting word on their future while whoever asks her here is planning a "TEA!!!" Tickets for pinky's up with Kate are a mere $150. each. Where are they buying the tea from?
I know if I need to ask that I can't afford to go right? Right,as I live in a tiny bungalow (alot of auto workers live in these) about 1,000 sq. ft.. and I could buy alot of needed groceries and supplies with what that ticket costs. We are struggling as I know a lot of you are. But this is at a hospital in a much affluent area, where all the doctor's wives probably think Kate is Grrrreat!
After the tea she'll sign her books. Four hours later we get a cheaper chance to see her at a church where she is again going to share her experiences on motherhood! Maybe I can go after all. These tickets are only $27. and $38. Wonder if PR gave her a head's up on how bad Michigan economy is and that's why we get a deal?
On second thought much as I'd like to see in person a real selfish green-eyed you know what, I'll forfeit the chance.
Better to spend it with hubby on what we call a big night out and for around 30.00 enjoy good company and good conversation. Something it seems Kate doesn't have a clue about.

Denise said...

Chris:
I was wondering on the moving to the new house episode Kate says, Hannah get smigranes so she needs her own room? Then on another episode she won't let Hannah cut her hair? I have read that long hair espcially in young children is not recommended. If Hannah asked to cut her and it might help her migranes why would Kate not let her?
This is from Kate herself!:

When did you decide to cut your hair short?

When I met Jon, my hair was long. It got a tad shorter after I had the girls and then went even shorter once I had the six. I have extremely thick hair so when it was long (back in the day) it gave me headaches because of the weight…unlike Jon

twins241 said...

My husband is a physician. We physician wives have better things to do than run out to see Katie Irene for $150. I work, as many wives do. I would much rather spend that money on my kids or a nice dinner. Please don't lump us into that sheeple category.

sillyrabbit said...

ladylou said...
I just found out Kate is comin' to town! That town is in cash strapped metro Detroit. All the auto workers are sitting on needles & pins awaiting word on their future while whoever asks her here is planning a "TEA!!!" Tickets for pinky's up with Kate are a mere $150. each. Where are they buying the tea from?
I know if I need to ask that I can't afford to go right? Right,as I live in a tiny bungalow (alot of auto workers live in these) about 1,000 sq. ft.. and I could buy alot of needed groceries and supplies with what that ticket costs. We are struggling as I know a lot of you are. But this is at a hospital in a much affluent area, where all the doctor's wives probably think Kate is Grrrreat!
After the tea she'll sign her books. Four hours later we get a cheaper chance to see her at a church where she is again going to share her experiences on motherhood! Maybe I can go after all. These tickets are only $27. and $38. Wonder if PR gave her a head's up on how bad Michigan economy is and that's why we get a deal?
On second thought much as I'd like to see in person a real selfish green-eyed you know what, I'll forfeit the chance.
Better to spend it with hubby on what we call a big night out and for around 30.00 enjoy good company and good conversation. Something it seems Kate doesn't have a clue about.


I have no idea where Kate Gosselin's PR team is coming up with the $150 ticket price? Its not like Kate Gosselin was a prior resident of Detroit, Michigan and has contributed her time and energies to the city of Detroit to such an extent that her loyalty to the city would justify a $150 ticket price. Just this past January, the Detroit Tigers MLB team held a fan fest at Comerica Park in Detroit, MI where you could meet the players and get an autograph. The price of a ticket $12!!!! There have been numerous local Detroit Tiger player meet and greets over the years held at Detroit or surrounding area businesses. The cost of meeting a Detroit Tiger and autograph $35-$60depending on the number of players attending! IMO, the $150 ticket price for tea with Kate Gosselin is absurd to say the least. It will be interesting to see how many are actually willing to pay the price of $150 to 'have tea with Kate Gosselin'.

beachluvin said...

ladylou said...
"I just found out Kate is comin' to town! That town is in cash strapped metro Detroit. All the auto workers are sitting on needles & pins awaiting word on their future while whoever asks her here is planning a "TEA!!!" Tickets for pinky's up with Kate are a mere $150. each."
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I have no idea who in their right mind would pay to spend time with Kate Gosselin but I could see how people would want to donate to the hospital.
Since it is being held at the hospital, I would ASS-U-ME that it is a charitable event and that the price of the ticket is 100% deductible.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090415/ENT10/904150308/1457/ENT10/Kate+Gosselin+schedules+two+May+14+appearances

PreK Teacher said...

Nimby,
You are right, I would have reservations about my kids going into class with some of the sextuplets who hit and scream. But teaching in a poor urban city with over populated classrooms filled with at risk children of parents with multi-issues
raising them, screaming and hitting kids are the norm here, not acceptable, but it is the type of children we are getting in school. There is no excuse for it and I am on my students like flies about acceptable behavior in school,proper behavior out in the community and that there are consequences for making poor choices. I was more thinking about the sextuplets in the way as many of us have mentioned before, that there is something "odd" about a couple of them. Those were the ones that I think would not be ready for Kinder...they seem to need more time for evaluation and maturity.

Somewhereinoh said...

I have no idea who in their right mind would pay to spend time with Kate Gosselin but I could see how people would want to donate to the hospital.
Since it is being held at the hospital, I would ASS-U-ME that it is a charitable event and that the price of the ticket is 100% deductible.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090415/ENT10/904150308/1457/ENT10/Kate+Gosselin+schedules+two+May+14+appearances


I dont get the impression from reading the above link that Kate's $150 a ticket appearance in Detroit is in conjunction with any type of 'charitable' event. Perhaps her appearance is 'sponsored' by the public relations department of the labor and delivery wing as the article mentions attendees can schedule, AT A LATER DATE, a tour of the labor and delivery. #1 Why would it require a person having to pay $150 to have 'tea with Kate' just to schedule a tour of the labor and delivery wing? #2 I highly doubt that the hospital is going to turn away individuals interested in touring the labor and delivery wing on the reasoning of they didnt pay $150 to have 'tea with Kate'. I am a bit confused as to who the projected target group is for this appearance. Considering the city and people of Detroit have been particularly hit hard by the economic crisis, Im sure Detroit's 'working class' have much better use for their $150.

Teryn said...

Newton said...
Jon must wake up every morning wondering how he got into such a mess and how to get out of it.

4/20/2009 8:15 PM

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I doubt it. He loves the money too much to spend too much time worrying about a mess. Just the way he drove off on that 4-wheeler like a kid....made me sick. What a big show off. LOOKEE AT MY TOYS!!!!! And while he was hoofin' it on the 4-wheeler I had a mental image of a "I Hate Mady Gosselin" Facebook page...and that he sacrificed his daughter's reputation so he can have toys. Expensive toys.

Someone commented earlier and it does seem that once they moved, all that money just burned a hole in their pockets and they couldn't stand it anymore. They started blowing it left and right....cars, jewelry ( Kate's rocks on her fingers ), pedigreed dogs, 4-wheelers, tans, new wardrobes, condos, dinners in LA at Mr. Chow's, privacy fences, gates...and gum. GUM! Kate used to never chew gum on camera at the old house, but suddenly we hardly see her without a wad in her mouth like a cow chewing cud.

I think they held off as long as they could in seasons 1-3 to keep up the appearance of "getting by", but by season 4 they'd had enough and went nuts blowing their fortune.

Cynthia said...

I wonder if Kate's mom/dad ever watch the program and wonder what they think!

WBrook said...

This is somewhat random, but I was just wondering:

What are some ways (if however small) you all have found to help further this cause?

I watched this show for a couple of days before having an incredibly adverse reaction to how the kids were being treated. I prayed I was not the only one, and was fortunate enough to come across this site where I feel at least partway sane.

However, there is always a feeling of helplessness when a situation like this occurs and the average person has little to no impact on what goes on. What little (or big) things can we do as individuals to make even the slightest impacting on hopefully improving these kids' lives?

So far I have written TLC, Figure 8, Jon and Kate directly (or at least the contact emails on their web site, good luck), and several sponsors voicing my displeasure and concern. These are simple things anyone and everyone can do.

Another thing that crossed my mind was to explore facebook and other such social sites and have as many negative comments about the kids as possible reported and deleted. As of right now, the third link that pops up when you search Mady's name on google is a facebook topic calling her a nasty name. By reporting these things wherever they are found, it lessens the chance of these kids (especially Mady) stumbling across all the negative press they can receive at times.

Finally, I made it my duty to compile large lists of evidence accusing the Gosselins of exploiting their children and potentially ruining their childhoods, and sent it out to any and all news media I could think of. (National media, but also media around the Gosselins' home town(s) where the news might be more prevalent and would perhaps have a greater impact.

What are some other things like these that we can do to at least chip away at the potential negative impact that this situation might have on these kids' lives?

Thanks for your time!

Denise L said...

Somewhereinoh said:
Considering the city and people of Detroit have been particularly hit hard by the economic crisis, Im sure Detroit's 'working class' have much better use for their
$150.
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You are totally right. Detroit is in dire straits financially and people are suffering in that city. However, the suburbs of Detroit, Bloomfield Hills, grosse Point, etc., are monied areas. These peple have the $150 to pay for tea with her royal tackiness. So, they might get a turnout. I hope not, though.

Auntie Anne said...

Chris said...
I was wondering on the moving to the new house episode Kate says, Hannah get smigranes so she needs her own room? Then on another episode she won't let Hannah cut her hair? I have read that long hair espcially in young children is not recommended. If Hannah asked to cut her and it might help her migranes why would Kate not let her? If Kate really understand how painful migranes are, would she not want to help rather then chnace hannah knocking on her bedroom door sick??

4/21/2009 10:04 PM
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Kate made Cara have her hair cut because it was always in her face. Cara was sad and did not want it cut.

Then the tups rarely have their hair out of their faces, and Hannah's hair must weigh a ton.

She has more hair than anyone and it pretty much is always hanging over her face.

Koopdedoo said...

GUM! Kate used to never chew gum on camera at the old house, but suddenly we hardly see her without a wad in her mouth like a cow chewing cud.

I wonder if her chewing her gum is a way to thumb her nose at Aunt Jodi?

And the 2 Detroit appearances...very odd. The hospital tea does not mention that it is a fundraiser (and you receive a signed copy of the book with admission, so, NO, not the entire price of admission would be deductible) and it is limited to 80 seats - can't wait to hear how many of those seats were actually filled at $150 each.

I wonder if the publisher really missed the mark on this book tour.

We said...

As per the "TEA WITH KATE"

WOnder if she passes out bibs and sipppy tea bottles.

jen said...

I was watching one of their original specials the other night on Discovery Health and man, Kate has been Kon-ing us for a while. Everyone says how nice she was back then but when they were talking about moving from their 1st house to the 2nd, Jon was discussing the square footage which sounded like it was almost doubled and Kate talked over him and like was like "um, no. uh-huh, it's not..." and was shaking her head around. Their old house was small but it was not tiny like she was trying to make everything think it was.

Sue said...

What ever happened to their Mission Statement for the family? Wasn't one of the things along the lines of "we will never put anything before our family" Hmm....guess they gave up on that!!

LAP said...

I'm finding this amusing this afternoon. I'm watching Wonder Pets! (for those with no kids its a kids TV program on Nickeloden) with my son and the show on now is Save the Gosslings! Its just making me laugh because it sounds like Gosslins.

3angelsmom said...

Cynthia said:
I wonder if Kate's mom/dad ever watch the program and wonder what they think!
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Now that is an interesting thing to ponder. I wonder how much of the negativity they're aware of?

As much as I would be VERY interested in hearing their side, I'm glad for the kids that they haven't come out with a public statement. The whole Tori/Candy Spelling feud is sad and has made both of them look bad. But I bet it's difficult not to when Kate says things like "they don't know how to help us."

Hmmmmmm said...

I was just thinking about the price of the Detroit "have tea w/Kate" event. If tickets are $150 (outrageous) and there are only 80 spaces, and if those spaces are all sold (let's hope not), then someone would rake in a total of $12,000. Didn't I read somewhere that Kate charges that amount to appear in some venues? Hmmmm. Maybe it's another marketing idea for her to have yet another way to make more money. After all, "it's because her kids deserve it".

Shari said...

I wonder if Kate's mom/dad ever watch the program and wonder what they think!
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I have a suspicion that not only do her parents watch (in horror) but they also might just linger on this site. Hmmmm.

my9cats said...

Sue said...
What ever happened to their Mission Statement for the family? Wasn't one of the things along the lines of "we will never put anything before our family" Hmm....guess they gave up on that!!


Yeah, right after the ink dried and the cameras were turned off.

EP said...

My mom linked me to the new sofa she bought from Lane Furniture.

I found this and thought you all might enjoy another product endorsement.


http://www.lanefurniture.com/Promotions/JonKate.aspx

2badsosad said...

What ever happened to their Mission Statement for the family? Wasn't one of the things along the lines of "we will never put anything before our family" Hmm....guess they gave up on that!!

During the move from house #2 to house #3,the Gosselin 'mission statement' was tossed in the trash along with all the other items that Kate Gosselin deemed unimportant and useless!

Casey and Smudge said...

I have no idea what episode it was, but we had just hooked up our HD receiver and were flipping through the channels. There was Kate, larger than life on TLC, chomping on a wad of gum critiquing the blind hanging skills of two TLC underlings. Accustomed to seeing Kate on my old 20" tv, I was first astonished at her rough complexion (she wasn't orange yet because they were at their old house) and then couldn't get over her lack of gum-chewing etiquette!

marypoppins said...

Many here might be interested.

Food Networks Cake Challenge this Sunday- Contestants have to design a cake for sextuplets turning 16 years old.

Could this be the Dilley's?

Steph said...

Ms Peach: "Reading about Jon's bloatiness and red mark on his face, it stands to reason that this couch interview was done during the same time frame as the final couch interview of Season 4. They are frauds and knew that they already had one new show in the can even if it wasn't the official first episode of Season 5."When they taped the couch interview for the season 4 finale they'd already taped 8 shows for Season 5. I agree with you that the 'Green' show couch interviews were taped around this time also because of Jon's face. The contract had been signed long before that time and they'd already been workin hard stockpiling episodes for the new season.

Didn't you love looking at the dirty bottoms of Kate's bare feet during the couch sessions? They are SOOO comfortable with this show and show so little respect for the viewers that they can't be bothered to put on shoes. Such poor examples for their children in most situations from what I can tell. They live by the do as I say and not as I do rules for life.

Christy said...

I could not even believe what I just saw. Heres the link:

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-puppy-supper.html

Around the 1:09 mark, she slides the heavy screen door right over the dogs foot, which the poor dog whimpers, then Hate proceeds to say "Move you big mutt."

I kid you not. What kind of person could treat a precious, loving animal so badly!?!?

Everyone needs to check out the video. I still could not believe TLC would post that on their website.

linda said...

I will be watching the Food Network Challenge, I love the Dilley family, they are such a nice family.. Jon and Kate could really learn from this family, I can't stand Kate.. I feel so sad for those children, and no Kate you are not a celebrity, you never will be.. We never see your kids with any friends, they are not involved in outside activities and God Forbid, they get sick.. I have a sick child and tonight my husband and I will take shifts holding him and making sure that his congestion does not get to bad.. Guess what Kate, my kids are allowed in my bedroom when they get sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beachluvin said...

Christy said...
I could not even believe what I just saw. Heres the link:

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-puppy-supper.html

Around the 1:09 mark, she slides the heavy screen door right over the dogs foot, which the poor dog whimpers, then Hate proceeds to say "Move you big mutt."

I kid you not. What kind of person could treat a precious, loving animal so badly!?!?

Everyone needs to check out the video. I still could not believe TLC would post that on their website.
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Kate is such a bitch....how nice to have a separate kitchen just for your dogs! Thanks Sheepie!!! Keep those love offerings coming!

Also.....I love how "green" Kate is using a paper towel to dry her hands instead of a cloth towel....oh my!.... more laundry for the servants.

Ugh...I hate that woman more and more each day. She is full of BAD karma and the blank is going to hit the fan soon!!!

Tangerine Tanya said...

Christy,
Thanks for posting the link about Kate feeding the pups. But this is what I heard her call one of the tups "Stinky butt" Nevertheless she was her pathetic self.

Tangerine Tanya said...

I am so sorry. I meant to type PUPS and not TUPS.

ICExploitation said...

What ever happened to their Mission Statement for the family? Wasn't one of the things along the lines of "we will never put anything before our family"That goes along with "the importance of giving back and teaching the children to pay it forward".

Just crap to put on an EM Tanner magnet.

Pink said...

Casey and Smudge, I have HDTV and have noticed Kate's rough/pimply complexion as well. Her upper arms reveal the same problem. It's clearly visible, even with her new less than flattering muddish dirty tan. Considering her aversion to dirt, I'm surprised she's sporting this new look. Perhaps someone clued her in on losing the orange glow, but this was not the way to go.

Ann said...

This will give you a comparison to see how outrageous tea with Kate's $150 price tag is...

Jenny McCarthy(author and super mom) spoke at the same location last month, it was a full day of autism awareness in which if you were a teacher/professional you could earn credit for attending the 8 hour workshop. Cost with food $95.

The more shocking compaison is Bill Clinton spoke at the same location about 15 months ago and tickets were between $25-75!

Sue said...
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we said...

Good info Anna!

Maude said...

I live in the Detroit area. The hospital that Kate is appearing at is a brand new, high tech, hospital. Very fancy with chefs, beautiful gardens, and high end gift shops. Like a 5 star hotel with medical care.

A poster commented that the suburbs of Detroit are "monied". True, but no one is immune to the disasterous economy here in Michigan. My husbands ad agency (no direct relation to the big three) has just gone through major layoffs; many were earning high end salaries. This is being repeated all over the Detroit Metro area. It's not just the car companies. Everyone is hurting, it doesn't matter if you earn $50,000 or $500,000. I've heard it all.

That said, she may actually get enough chumps that charge the outrageous fee of $150 on their already maxed out credit cards because "they may never get another chance to meet Kate"!

I seriously doubt it will be the "monied" of suburban Detroit that want to see Kate. I don't think thats her usual "fan" base.

MayDay said...

I caught the Dutch Wonderland show last night. I blame TLC for the poor choices they make about the things they edit and leave in. Alexis
(I think it was her) was sitting in the stroller licking her hands. For what I gather Kate must of "Purelled" them and Alexis was licking the Purel off. Kate told her that was poisonous and it was so obvious that Kate slapped her hand to get to to stop. It appeared that it was more than a "little hand slap" by the way Alexis was crying and holding her hand from the pain. Also there was a moment that Joel was not happy and holding his hand down also. I can not understand if Kate choose to slap her children's hands for discipline, why does TLC even bother taping around the episode and leave in the after effects? We are not stupid...we know what happened. It is so degrading for these children.

Denise said...

Christy said...
I could not even believe what I just saw. Heres the link:

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-puppy-supper.html

Around the 1:09 mark, she slides the heavy screen door right over the dogs foot, which the poor dog whimpers, then Hate proceeds to say "Move you big mutt."

I kid you not. What kind of person could treat a precious, loving animal so badly!?!?

Everyone needs to check out the video. I still could not believe TLC would post that on their website.
And ANOTHER refrigerator!
She is right about fooling with the dogs when they are eating; our trainer said that way they don't get "snippity", too.

Ann said...

Can someone please tell me what station or who interview Jon in Utah? After watching the link it appeared to be KUTV 2 Shanna Thomas was on right after the interview, but I could not tell since it was not a seemless transition or Jon was taped over something else or part or the broadcast? I live in Utah and a very dear friend is in the media here and agreed to try and help if we can give a positive ID to the reporter and or station.

I have lived in Utah since after college. My husband besides college is a life long resident. I also showed the video to a bunch of friends, most who had never seen the show(they come to see my coupon list for the week).
A few people did not care the comment Jon made, I only hang out at the Canyons. He went on to say how diverse it was and there were not any of those locals that "like say they have been born and raised and lived in Utah forever". Maybe because people who live here ski the mountain down the road, same snow but 1/3 of the price. Most locals also want to ski with their kids and not dump them off at the canyons daycare/ski lessons (yes I have been there 1 time for free during a conference and they do just take your kids and watch them all day).

The comment just about everyone was mad about was Jon saying, how could we live in a 3,000 sq ft house with 8 kids? This is a huge insult to many Utahans. Reguardless of income, the house that most Utahans (at least where I live) would be a dream family house would be a one story with a walkout basement on 1/3 acre lot. Usually 1400-1700 on the first floor and the walkout basement is 1200-1500, making about 3000 sq ft, 3 beds up 3 beds down 3-4 baths, formal living room up, playroom down. I have neighbors who a doctors, lawyers, teachers, policeman, auto mechanics all living in cul-de-sacs of these simliar homes. At least half have more then 6 kids, and I have never heard anyone say they were upset with the house size. Most have the younger kids in the upstairs bedrooms and the older in the downstairs bedrooms. In fact Jon&Kate kids the same age is probably easier in 3000 sq ft then having kids ages teens-toddlers. Reguardless of wealth (because it is surprising in my neighborhood at least there are some very wealthy business owners down to teachers starting out) that families choose neighborhoods, walking distance to good schools, neighborhoods that kids can be out playing with friends safely, neighborhood get togethers, and even though they have the money most people do not choose to live on a huge piece of land far from their kids friends and activites.

If you look back 20 years ago at kids growning up in the 70-80-90's I could have a huge list of families I know that raised 8 or more kids in way less then 3000 sq ft here in Utah just fine. The kids thta are adults now don't seem to have bad memories, just the opposite of being very close to their brothers and sisters. Also because their homes were not spacious, the kids spent lots of times at after school activies, sports etc and got scholarships to college.

I would love Kate to come here with her super mom talk. I doubt she could draw a large crowd.

LemonLady said...

Does anyone know when the Renovation Nation episode airs?

realitybites said...

MayDay said...
I caught the Dutch Wonderland show last night. I blame TLC for the poor choices they make about the things they edit and leave in. Alexis
(I think it was her) was sitting in the stroller licking her hands. For what I gather Kate must of "Purelled" them and Alexis was licking the Purel off. Kate told her that was poisonous and it was so obvious that Kate slapped her hand to get to to stop. It appeared that it was more than a "little hand slap" by the way Alexis was crying and holding her hand from the pain. Also there was a moment that Joel was not happy and holding his hand down also. I can not understand if Kate choose to slap her children's hands for discipline, why does TLC even bother taping around the episode and leave in the after effects? We are not stupid...we know what happened. It is so degrading for these children.

One thing that TLC and its producers have become very good at, when it comes to the J & K + 8 show, is continually insulting the intelligance of its viewers by intentionally editting footage as the means to instigate controversy and criticisms of J & K to keep viewers tuning in and thus maintaining consistent ratings. IMO, at this point , controversy and criticism is the only thing sustaining the J & K reality show, as viewers are tuning in each week not because J & K actually have something to offer with respect to enlightening viewers on the 'challanges of raising two sets of multiples' but because the show has become a predictable trainwreck. The J & K + 8 reality show 'jumped shark' after the first or second season so TLC must now rely on criticisms and controversy ie, 'it's all been leading up to this' to keep viewers tuning in.

lalaland said...

Kate is to be near me in Raleigh, NC in about 30 minutes. I can't go as I have a napping baby and sick boy at home (wouldn't pay to see her anyway). Anyone from NC going to the Southern Women's Show?

I just looked at the local newspaper's website b/c they had a contest to win tickets where they had people answer the question do you love or hate John & Kate. It was 100% love with a few who are they? answers. Yuck.

Steph said...

For someone that will not allow her children to chew gum, has anyone noticed Kate chews gum in almost every episode? Not when she is interviewed on the couch but during filming with the family. Not very attractive, but then again...

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