Free Discussion 4/11 - 4/17

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jonandkatewho? said...

I like Mady. She's a bright little girl who isn't very happy about some of the things going on in her life, and in her own passionate way she gets that message across. I really hate it that people say nasty things about her. I don't see her as being a mini-Kate at all, I see her as having a mind and opinions of her own, and she is full of frustration. Not paying attention to this bright little girl will backfire on Kate in a big way. I predict she will be a hell of a teenager, and it won't be pleasant for Kate or Jon.

You got to hand it to the girl, she's got tons of personality, something some of the other kids seem to lack.

My heart aches for her, though.

triplemama said...

This may be old news but I just caught the shopping at Gymboree episode. Kate says that Cara and Mady are at the age where they flat out refuse to wear things they don't like and called it "obnoxious". I have identical multiples and have never dressed them the same. Just don't see the point, other than to parade the kids around screaming 'look at the multiples'. Always just preferred to blend in with the crowd, myself.
Anyways, I found it interesting that she called it "obnoxious" - isn't that more healthy than obnoxious? My kids have had their own unique styles since about 5 years old and I think it's what helps them develop their own identity apart from the group. This is a huge concern to parents of multiples, but Kate just doesn't get it. It's better that they look the same than look unique.
Her comment was just very telling to me - it's all about appearances.

AuntyKimKim said...

By the way, does anyone know if the following is true or not?
Apparently Kate stated in one of her interviews, that the twins are now homeschooled. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? There must be someone else coming in to do this teaching as K. is never at home.
If this is true, it would be so sad!
At least at school they have some friends, and other people they can 'bond' too, and hopefully share with.
If it is true, probably one of the reasons MAY be, that K/J don't want the twins to speak out, esp. Mady, as the TRUTH may be found out!
That's so sad!
At least at school, Mady and Cara may have a counselor they could go to, if not too scared, and some teachers they could bond too.
But that too may be another reason, if the homeschooling is true, as K/J don't want their children to get close to anyone, again, because the truth may be 'leaked'.
So, does anyone know if this is true or not?

skywatcher said...

Did anyone on here attend the Roswell UMC Kate visit? I protested early on with letters and calls to the church. They didn't care, sadly. Unfortunately my Grandma passed away and had to go out of town when she was to be here. I was going to protest with some friends.(I live in GA near Roswell). I did see on their site that only Kate was coming. Anyone have feedback? Thanks and Happy Easter and Passover.

cossysmom said...

I have a question. From all that I can determine, Kate was the one that wanted children, especially "just one more." So why is Jon the one responsible for brushing teeth, bathing, dressing, playing, etc? Isn't something wrong with this picture?

jonandkatewho? said...

*raises hand*

I can answer that one. No, Jon did not want more children. I'm as sure as I can be without asking the guy that he wanted only the twins and no more.

But Kate is the dominant personality here and she probably made his life such a living hell that he gave in. Sucks for him, not having the balls to say NO to the big bitch.

Lisbeth said...

You should all go over and read the Jon and Kate interview article on Ladies Home Journal website. Type in the search box, jon and kate and it will link you to their upcoming cover article on the family. (I don't want to post a link, I don't want to break the rules of this site.)

But here is a quote from the article, "Happiness to her boils down to: "Having the kids down for a nap, a quiet house, dinner cooking on the stove, and a chance to sit and read a book."

Pretty much sums up the whole parenting experience for Kate. She likes them silent and useful props so she can live a life of leisure.

Lisa said...

Someone posted on last weeks' Free Discussion thread that she wasn't trying to piss anyone off, but thought that the kids weren't even cute or that photogenic anymore...
I could not agree more! I was checking out that crazy cake-lady's site & they have posted the cover for Ladies Home Journal (or whatever magazine cover they're on next) & that was my first thought. They all look so different & the baby-like features of the children are gone.

Lisbeth said...

I think Mady is able to give a voice to the frustrations that many of the kids feel about the constant filming of their lives. She speaks up for herself and protects herself too, ie: running into a bedroom and slamming the door. Her "throwing a fit" seems to be a strategy she has developed to protect herself from participating in many filmed events. (ie: Feeding fish in Hawaii). Smart kid. Sadly, she may struggle among her peers as she gets older. If only the family, camera crew and corporations would listen to what she is trying to say through her actions instead of exploiting her behavior for financial gains. But they don't care about 10 years from now, just the cash a kid with personality in front of a camera can bring in.

2badsosad said...

"I have a question. From all that I can determine, Kate was the one that wanted children, especially "just one more." So why is Jon the one responsible for brushing teeth, bathing, dressing, playing, etc? Isn't something wrong with this picture?"

Kate didnt want CHILDREN she wanted BABIES. Her desire for BABIES discontinued at the time she could no longer refer to the tups as BABIES. Her CHILDREN on the other hand are merely the accessories she utilizes to pursue her own self serving agenda.

Lisbeth said...

I wanted to add: in the Ladies Home Journal article, it is obvious that Jon and Kate reference the kids repeatedly as why they struggle to communicate in their marriage. Someone needs to point out to them that the kids are going to walk away with feeling like they are to blame for their parents' relationship crumbling. Jon and Kate are the adults in the relationship and need to take full responsibility for their marriage communication concerns and issues. Oprah should do a show on THAT!

Amy said...

Gone Hollywood.
Comparing J/K to young Hollywood seems about right. Putting aside (I know its hard) that they are earning their money from having the children, not their talent. Let’s compare the natural arc of a new found Hollywood celebrity. Typically a person new to Hollywood will take and do pretty much whatever the producers, agents, etc. ask to for little money; just to build a name. Then if they are lucky fame starts to follow so they beyond their initial work (singing or acting, modeling, whatever) and branch out. Now they are multiple sources of income and can renegotiate roles for more money. Now they get used to the fame and fortune, start buying a mansion, cars, trips, etc. And they get used to the lifestyle. After a while there comes along another person that becomes the new flavor of the month for the public. What happens to the original star? Two paths are open; either struggle to get roles and stick it out until the career takes off again or drugs and alcohol. This is not to say that J/K would choose the later but their days are numbered because as TV star Lony Anderson once said “there’s always a faster gun in Hollywood”.
As for the money, its gone unless they are lucky to receive good advice. And once the money is gone there are taxes,, expensive mortgages, agents salary, publists, attorney fees, cars/toys. It all adds up. They find themselves heavily in debt with no source of income.
IMO we are watching a classic evolution of a new Hollywood celebrity (albeit D List at best).

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

I also remember Jon saying he "was happy with his twins". He also stated he was happy with a family of four and they fit in with the world, or something to that nature. I guess a child for each parent and they would have time and $$$ to do things as a little family. He stated he was also concerned about the twins after the six came, abnd I guess with good reason since they rarely look happy.

I think he said this during one of those specials when i thought the family was kinda cute and endearing. What a sucker I was.

Bonnie Lou said...

Good Lord Almighty...I have seen it all now.

I just returned form a child's birthday party. As the party wound down and the kids were getting bored, they came up with playing a game. "Let's play Jon and Kate Plus 8!!!!"

So, they all decided who would play whom. 8 kids played the twins and tups, and two older kids played Kate and Jon.

Imagine the laughter coming from the parents watching, as the two older kids yelled at each other and argued OVER A COUPON!!! The kid playing Kate really outdid herself. That child has deep seated anger issues that surprised even her own mother! The kid who played Jon acted ( intentionally ) very mean and wimpy at the same time. He ( played by a she )even pretended to walk away, saying he was "going to the bar to get away from his wife". Then there were the kids who played the twins and tups. They were hitting each other and play crying and stomping their feet, and pretend pooping on make-shift potty chairs!!!!

The kid playing Kate "pretend" spanked them and sent them to bed with no food....and was particularly more aggressive with the kid playing Mady ( who was dead-on with her personality ).

This went on for a good 20-30 minutes before it got old and they stopped playing. It started out as hilarious, but the more I watched, the more disturbing it got.

It ended up making me sad that these kids were imitating REAL people....not cartoon characters or actors...but real, live people who are on display on national television. I felt most sorry for the Gosselin kids today than I have ever felt before.

Froggus. said...

has anyone noticed .. in every most recent picture of kate, she has the same. exact. INCREDIBLY CONTRIVED. smile?

head tilt, and all?
like she was copied and pasted over and over .. even at that black tie tlc/discovery channel event they were at....
all the same.


i mean, no big deal .. i know it's part of the biz and all, i'm just sayin..
..err, asking.

L said...

I was on a non Gosselin message board, and one of the users pictures in their signature was on ones side their child, on the other a pic of alexis. And underneath it said her daughters name and alexis "two peas in a pod". I was amazed. I don't care how famous I got. I would NEVER want to see anything like that with my daughter on it. From someone that has never met me, her or anything. I agree with majority of things said on her about them exploiting there kids and everything, but seeing that really made it hit home for me. It's just as scary as it is creepy to me.

Sugarpop said...

I thought Cara was forced to get bangs right before the Oprah appearance - how come neither of the twins have bangs on the cover of LHJ?

Actually, for that matter, it doesn't look like she had bangs on the Oprah episode, either. What's the deal?

Anonymous said...

Kate keeps talking about how important it is that her children are 'cultured'. I'm just wondering: do J/K actually have college degrees? I read somewhere that HRH has a nursing diploma, but not a degree. And that Jon only graduated from high school.
They present themselves as being highly educated...

LisainSC said...

I realized something today while listening to the ol' iPod: the song 'Champagne From a Straw' by Andrea Corr reminds me in many ways of Kate Gosselin. Especially the second verse:

I've got my all-over-tan
And my tummy tuck,
My two babies, boy and girl
Big house in the country
With expensive bags
For my scary little dog
My man sleeps around a bit,
Keeps him from my bed,
One less job for me to do
I'm the one you look up to
And wish on every star
For one day in my high shoes

Shari said...

Has anyone seen the previews for Oprah lately? Apparently she's doing a show on a single dad with nine kids.

Don't get me wrong; I couldn't stand Oprah long before she climbed into K8's pants, but it sure looks like she's jumping on the 'Child Exploitation Gravy Train' right along with the rest of them. Does she work for TLC now or something?

happyeaster said...

"I was on a non Gosselin message board, and one of the users pictures in their signature was on ones side their child, on the other a pic of alexis. And underneath it said her daughters name and alexis "two peas in a pod". I was amazed. I don't care how famous I got. I would NEVER want to see anything like that with my daughter on it. From someone that has never met me, her or anything. I agree with majority of things said on her about them exploiting there kids and everything, but seeing that really made it hit home for me. It's just as scary as it is creepy to me."

One, of the many, things that grate me about J & K Gosselin, as parents, is their lack of/failure to acknowledge the potential dangers of placing their children in the public eye. Obviously, J & K are quite aware of the effects their 'reality show' has had on their privacy. I dont know of any parent that would NOT be disturbed by the thought of having pictures of their child(ren) plastered all over the internet and the subject of adult admiration. However, the issue has never been one that J & K has ever acknowledged or addressed as being a concern and or a negative aspect of their CHILDREN being 'reality tv' personalities. IMO, the blatant absence of J & K addressing/acknowleding issues with respect to their children's privacy and the numerous internet web pages devoted to the admiration of their children is an intentional one. If J & K were to publicly acknowledge concerns regarding their children's privacy and the internet , they are equally acknowledging that THEY, as parents, placed their children in harm's way by continuing to be part of a reality tv. The exploitation of the Gosselin children does not begin and end with their reality tv show but has extended to include the internet highway. I find that very disturbing!

kittie pie said...

I'm so tired of talking about Kate when the Cantu family is mourning the loss of a precious little girl and all Kate worrys about is her tan, Mr Chows, her hectic schedule, and her new house. Please, I haven't watched this show since last July and now I know for sure I will never again. She seems trite and just plain weird and sooo worldly.

Anonymomma said...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29916732/

Cosmic Karma?

L said...

"The exploitation of the Gosselin children does not begin and end with their reality tv show but has extended to include the internet highway. I find that very disturbing!"

I agree with you. Especially since they travel so much. Little kids always run to something of interest. The one bodyguard and "sitter/helper" they have with them isn't enough. It only takes a second for someone to snatch a child. I am probably going to the extreme's but you don't know who's looking at these kids pictures and what's going through their mind when they do so.

Lucie said...

I saw my first "kate" hairdo today!
It was quite shocking!- The lady had orange and white stripes and
the back was super puffy!!
It looks much worst in real life then on tv.

Crazy Kate said...

This is just sickening....

Kate will be in California next week, April 13,14,15,16,17th. Appearances every day...and more at the end of the month and May!!!

The kids are back in pre-school next week ( according to the pre-school website ), so it doesn't seem they will be traveling with her.

She seems to be getting a kick out of seeing how much more she can be away from them. They truly need to change the title of the show to Jon & 8 minus Kate.

Uh...what was that official statement TLC put out there? Something about the show allows Kate the luxury of being home with her kids?
Bwahahahahahahahahahah!

mommaof3 said...

I have been hearing people say that Kate may be homeschooling. IF she does homeschool , she may be cyber-schooling. Which means that public school is taught at home. I have done this in the past. She would recieve a free computer for EACH child and free internet service and all of the curriculum is sent to each child. I live in Pa, not too far from Kate. The PA dept of Ed. does pay for all of this to any one who wants to take advantage of this program. Maybe Cara and Mady are getting made fun of in school( because of their shananigans)and this would be a perfect opputurnity for the kids. I would hate to see the little ones getting picked on b/c of what the parents do. This is just some info I thought I would pass on.

Terri said...

Was at a local Target (about 1 1/2 hours from the Konpound) a couple of days ago and spotted not one, but TWO Kate hairdos. EEK!!! The first was complete with skunk stripes and "frumpily" back, they other was more polished. Lordy be! Run for the hills, she's multiplying!

jon and kate are cons said...

Kate went to a three year diploma school for nursing. No college at all. Jon graduated high school. No college for him either. Without the show, they would have nothing.

Barbara 81 said...

Shari, it's funny you should say that. Oprah has her own network coming out in 2010, OWN which she is licensing from Discovery, the same network that owns TLC...

Intheknow said...

With Kate away all next week I wonder who will be keeping Jon company?

twins241 said...

jon and kate are cons said...
Kate went to a three year diploma school for nursing. No college at all. Jon graduated high school. No college for him either. Without the show, they would have nothing

I am in no way a fan of Katie Irene but I must defend those who attend diploma nursing schools. I attended one and the 1st year is college classes followed by 2 years of nursing classes. Most graduate with very good grades and become excellent nurses. I would rather be cared for by a diploma RN than a ASN or BSN. My diploma education and nursing experience allowed me obtain a MSN and I am also an NP. SHe has an education, but unfortunately she did nothing with it.

fedup said...

Gymboree...financial trouble?
Isn't Jon & Kate their spokespeople? You cannot tie yourself into "greedy, money hungry" people! Kate Gosselin is not a typical mom on a budget. Woman who are "typical" cannot identify..let alone afford food!

They need to bring their prices down...Stop giving away $38. dresses(worn on Oprah) and put tin a budget line!
I hope to see these corporations go out...learn not to give to freebie queen.

Rebecca said...

My sister also attended a three year diploma nursing school. She said that there were no college classes at all. So not all schools are the same.

One thing for sure is that I wouldn't want Kate taking care of me if I was in the hospital. If I saw her coming, I would run out the nearest door, or window.

maria said...

I have a question. From all that I can determine, Kate was the one that wanted children, especially "just one more." So why is Jon the one responsible for brushing teeth, bathing, dressing, playing, etc? Isn't something wrong with this picture?
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The best way I could answer that is perhaps she is a woman who wanted children but not all of the work and responsibility that comes with it. We all know how much work comes with just ONE child. I think once she had 6 at once, she just decided "I'm not doing this. It's too much work." That's just my opinion.

maria said...

has anyone noticed .. in every most recent picture of kate, she has the same. exact. INCREDIBLY CONTRIVED. smile?
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Froggus, I'm not kidding when I say that she probably looks at herself in the mirror and practices her smile and certain poses. The smile looks very 'practiced' and fake to me.

formerclassmateof kate said...

I attended nursing school with Kate. Our diploma program did have college classes through Kutztown University of Pennsylvania. We are in fact educated.

Tiny Tee said...

This comment was from another poster on the Free Discussion
last week but I felt it worth repeating.
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I wonder if Kate will wear her mini skirt,red leather jacket and hooker heels to Easter Sunday Services

Marie France said...

formerclassmateof kate said...
I attended nursing school with Kate. Our diploma program did have college classes through Kutztown University of Pennsylvania. We are in fact educated.
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I do not think this comment was referring to you nor the other people in your class at Reading Hospital who succeeded and are skilled, compassionate nurses. I think the point here is that we are all wondering how Kate made it through the program, passed the RN licensing exam when SHE is clearly an imbecile on so many levels. Based on her verbal skills alone, I have to ask if she can even process information at a level that would have enabled her to get through the program and pass the exam, not to mention work with patients. Would you and others that you graduated with put their son ALONE on the cold laundry room floor, burning up with fever, because they did not want to have to wash comforters? Or would you and your classmates have allowed your child to have become so constipated for a week that your husband had to maually disimpact him in a van with an unsanitary plastic shopping bag while you were buying furniture and could not be bothered? Of course not. If Kate is a nurse, then she should have known better. These two examples alone show that she didn't learn much in her program, hence the "uneducated" comment. She is also an evil, narcissistic woman. I am assuming she was like this in nursing school, too? Personality disorders do not go away. Please tell us about your experiences with her in nursing school. We'd love to know. Again, I'm sure that comment was about Kate and not her fellow students and graduates. She is the worst example coming out of that program and Reading Hospital should be ashamed that they let her stay in it.

Im just sayin said...

twins241 said:

She (Kate) has an education, but unfortunately she did nothing with it.

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formerclassmateof kate said:

I attended nursing school with Kate. Our diploma program did have college classes through Kutztown University or Pennsylvania. We are in fact educated.

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Formerclassmateof Kate
I think that twins241 wasn't saying that people who attended that program in college didnt have an education.....I believe what she meant to say was that Kate just doesn't use her's. I dont think that applies to the other people in the program. I have to agree with twins 241 as far as Kate not using her noodle when it comes to proper nursing or proper mothering for that matter.

monica said...

I know I saw it posted on a previous thread but I was hoping someone remembers the brand of the new refrigerator kate got after she not so subtly berated the former owners about the one they left behind. I know it wasn't a whirlpool or we would have been forced to see the label at least 10 times. I read it cost like $8000 and just wondered if it was true. Thanks:)

Tami said...

They need to bring their prices down...Stop giving away $38. dresses(worn on Oprah) and put tin a budget line!
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Oh I know! My older daughter bought my younger one a Gymboree dress for her 4th birthday. I could not believe how much she paid. I have stopped going in there because the one in our mall is such a tiny store there is no selection and the prices are ridiculous. I usually just buy it second hand if I see something cute. I like Children's Place better because at least they have good sales. But Target is just fine with me..

Annies said...

formerclassmateof kate said...
I attended nursing school with Kate. Our diploma program did have college classes through Kutztown University of Pennsylvania. We are in fact educated.

Yes, but do you have a college diploma that says Kutztown U. with a B.S. or A.S.?

Annies said...

I wonder if Kate will wear her mini skirt,red leather jacket and hooker heels to Easter Sunday Services


If I see her I will let you know. LOL.

Why r they still 2gether? said...

Anyone that has a nursing diploma or degree has "school smarts".
Let's not kid ourselves and say it
must have been easy-
The test to get your RN takes
a lot of studying.
So Kate went to school and has a profession....
But what about Jon- didn't he say he was an IT professional?
But he only has a hs diploma?
HELLO!?!?
Then aren't we all IT professionals?

Nancy said...

Time for a new show.
It is obvious that Kate, because of her over the top personality, has come out of this experience as a star and wanting more.
Although I would love to see the children every few years to see their progress, how many more contrived outings do we have to suffer through?
These days getting rich is not popular but being generous is. What if Kate had a new show maybe called "Kate's Adventure" where she travels the world to visit other families with multiples, expolores their life and gives them a "surprise of a lifetime".
Maybe one of the kids, like Mady who loves the attention, could join her sometimes.
Let Jon go back to work and hire a staff of nannies and house workers at home to handle the daily grind. It wouldn't bother the kids. They are accustomed to having other people in their lives and they are of an age when their interests are turning to school and their friends. I think Jon and Kate would both be happy doing what they want to do and they could share more quality and loving time with their children and each other. Make it happen TLC.

RuthinVA said...

I just watched two episodes of the Toddlers and Tiaras on demand. All the kids "done good." There is a judge with Kate's hair cut. Colored the same as Kate's hair. They spray tan until they look unnatural. Awesome is a favorite adverb that never contains a "ly." No adverbs ever contain a "ly." Well is not part of their vocabulary. Lots of children are pushed into doing things they don't want to do.
I was just wondering if all of this is a prerequisite to being a part of the TLC family.

intheknow said...

With Kate gone next week. I think Jon may get himself in trouble.

It is brewing.(and I don't mean the whole volleyball thing!) New sports car, wife away.

hmmmm, I think it will get very interesting around here in the next few weeks.

Hannah W said...

I just realized we've seen Christmas,4th of July,Valentines Day, and birthdays but not Easter or Halloween. It doesn't shock me though because Easter and Halloween are mostly for the kids, what would Kate get out of the kids trick-or-treating or hunting for Easter Eggs? Sad though, I loved doing that stuff as a kid

Emily said...

I don't think Kate will be spending easter with the family she has to be in California tomorrow (the day after easter) and knowing Kate I don't think she will

thatsthewayitis said...

"Although I would love to see the children every few years to see their progress, how many more contrived outings do we have to suffer through?"

I personally choose not to suffer through anything when I have the power within my hands to not watch at all. I wholeheartedly agree with the issues regarding child exploitation and the necessity for laws to protect the rights and privacies of minor children exposed to the workings of the reality tv industry. However, one can make the choice to not suffer thru an episode of the J & K + 8 reality show by simply not watching.

ICExploitation said...

"Former classmate of Kate"

Can you confirm that there was a girl in your nursing class named "Melissa" that died in a car accident?

Kate recounts the story in "Multiple Blessing" - but of course the mention was not about the woman that passed away, but about how wonderful Kate was.

I have always wondered if their indeed was a real "Melissa".

Thanks!

mommaof3 said...

It kind of hurts me when you all post horrible things about Kate's haircut. I have the same style as her,but I have had it since 2003...way before I even seen Kate. Just remember there are some people who have the hairstyle b/c they like it..not that they are trying to be like Kate

Maggie said...

I don't mind the haircut at all, it looked cute on Rhianna and Victoria Beckham. I think it is the extremes that Kate takes it to is what is annoying.

Exhausted said...

"Easter and Halloween are mostly for the kids, what would Kate get out of the kids trick-or-treating or hunting for Easter Eggs? Sad though, I loved doing that stuff as a kid"
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Kate and Jon operate out of the church of convenience. Whatever they do is whatever benefits them--they have no solid convictions that they stand by. They play the whole religion game because it brings in speaking engagements and a solid audience for a Christian publisher. (Think Jessica Simpson trying to go country after she couldn't sell a pop album.) They play the organic/green thing when it's convenient in order to be the exotic, cool kids in school.

Holidays are much the same. They say they don't celebrate Christmas too much because they don't want to be burdened with shopping for so many children or decorating the mansion. There are people whom I can respect that are deeply religious and believe the holiday has gotten over-commercialized, and they don't decorate or buy presents, but this is not Jon and Kate. They do nothing for Christmas because it's a hassle to have to be home and do all these little things to create nice memories for their kids.

They have made me skeptical of every action, so maybe I sound cynical, but they are such opportunists. Easter and Halloween, no doubt, are the same.

Our kids woke up at 6:00 am today, and they were ready to go this morning and see their baskets and play. Would it have been more convenient for us to tell them we don't celebrate or to let a nanny handle it all? Of course. But that is what you sign up for when you have children (especially when you elect to have multiples), and "exhausting" or not, isn't it so worth it to see and feel their excitement? They are squandering every moment with those poor kids, and they will be left some day with emptiness as a result.

Exhausted said...

Kate hasn't yet had a haircut that has made her look sweet and pretty. It ain't the haircut, it's the rotten soul. Ugly is as ugly does. So mommaof3, I'm sure yours looks splendid on you!

Hairs The Thang said...

mommaof3 said...
It kind of hurts me when you all post horrible things about Kate's haircut. I have the same style as her,

4/12/2009 11:53 AM

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Mommaof3....I love you, but we need to have a talk about "the hair".

There just is not one single attractive thing about the back of Kate Gosselins' nest...I mean head. It's narly boy bed head going on back there. Nothing feminine, sweet, or pretty about it.

I think a style like that is only fit for a female prison guard.

4thekids said...

Dare I say it, but the hairstyle Kate "attempts" to sport is actually rather flattering on many people when done properly. Kate's problems are:

(1) Her hair is wayyyy to thick for this type of style. The portion of hair that is supposed to lightly sweep over to one side looks so ghastly and huge on Kate, it is as if she is hiding a whole stack of coupons behind it.

(2) She insists on the skunk stripes. Why on earth would anyone purposely and repeatedly dye 2 inch chunks of hair in different colors that don't even look compatible next to each other?

Kate's botched version doesn't completely surprise me though: "subtly" has been known to not exist in Kate's dictionary. Go big or go home, I guess.

DeeB said...

Regarding Kate's nursing education.... In addition to the two instances already mentioned (the child on the laundry room floor and the constipated child) remember, she could not remove a tick from one of the boys and her own husband was terrified of having her remove staples (which she had to be shown how to do) from his head. I cannot in my wildest imagination see her as a nurse. I am really sorry, but if you did go to nursing school with her she makes your entire school look bad. Did they not teach compassion or empathy? I'd rather have my cat take care of me than have her as a nurse. I also do not see her as very smart.

Nancy said...

intheknow said...
With Kate gone next week. I think Jon may get himself in trouble.
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Sounds like you know something we don't!

I was wondering if Kate and the PR firm didn't feel the need to hire a "husbandsitter" to watch over Jon while she is away. I figured after his last bit of fun he was probably scolded and grounded for a while. lol

Guess we will have to wait and see.

Pink said...

This comment from 4thekids just made my day, as it is soooooo comical & true! We now know where Kate's coupons are stacked. LOL

(1) Her hair is wayyyy to thick for this type of style. The portion of hair that is supposed to lightly sweep over to one side looks so ghastly and huge on Kate, it is as if she is hiding a whole stack of coupons behind it.

C.P Mom said...

Looking over the TLC shows for the next couple of weeks. I am very disappointed that TABLE FOR 12 has an episode about taking ten kids to the dentist. It did not take TLC very long to have this family follow suit like Jon and Kate. We have already seen 8 children go to the dentist, why would we want to see ten go? Who in their right mind would take ten kids to the dentist all at once? I had high hopes for this show and already I am getting the feeling that TLC is going to work their magic and destroy what started out to be a a good show. Now doesn't that sound familiar?

Marie France said...

DeeB said...
Regarding Kate's nursing education.... In addition to the two instances already mentioned (the child on the laundry room floor and the constipated child) remember, she could not remove a tick from one of the boys and her own husband was terrified of having her remove staples (which she had to be shown how to do) from his head. I cannot in my wildest imagination see her as a nurse. I am really sorry, but if you did go to nursing school with her she makes your entire school look bad. Did they not teach compassion or empathy? I'd rather have my cat take care of me than have her as a nurse. I also do not see her as very smart.

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Two more great examples!!! I had forgotten about those! If a "nurse" cannot remove a tick or take staples out, then this is a problem. You are 100% right on. Reading Hospital School of Nursing looks very bad - Kate is walking, talking terrible PR for them and their program. She is NOT smart and is devoid of basic human empathy. I just want to know why the nursing school allowed her to stay in the program. Maybe she got straight C's and barely made it. And I'd love to know how she passed the standardized state board exam for RN's. Is this a case of just being able to be a good test taker? I went to school with plenty of people who did well on tests, but had no real clue about the subject matter and could not integrate it into real, working knowledge. I'd like to know why Kate's instructors did not see her lack of empathy in her clinical rotations and try to address this with her. I have heard that numerous people who worked with her in labor and delivery at the Reading Hospital were thrilled when she left because she was a total bitch to work with. She is a disgrace to nursing!!!!

KMurf said...

Is there any new information on the new not nanny? IMO a nanny is a helper who is with the family for more than 20 hours a week. I don't think having a nanny is a bad thing. I work as a nanny myself. But anyway, is that the new helper driving the kids in the toy on the winter play new video on the tlc website?

Miss Brown Betti said...

HAIRS THE THANG,

Love your handle and your comment as well.

Tiny Tee said...

DeeB,

Good examples of the lack Kate showed with her (Ummm) nursing skills. Here is another one. I have seen her clean the tups hands first and then wipe their face. She should have learned in nursing school that the face gets cleaned first and you start from the part of the eye where the tear duct is and clean out wards. Thus not spreading germs into the tear duct. She is just NASTY all the way around if you ask me.

Marie France said...

This is the link to the Reading Hospital School of Health Sciences (includes nursing). Note the requirements for admissions. Interesting. I cannot imagine that Kate met many of those requirements when she got in.

http://www.readinghospital.org/oth/Page.asp?PageID=OTH000626

timetogokon said...

I have seen her clean the tups hands first and then wipe their face. She should have learned in nursing school that the face gets cleaned first and you start from the part of the eye where the tear duct is and clean out wards.

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One need not attend nursing school to be enlightened with this information. This is Baby 101 for most hospitals, baby books, new parent classes, etc.

PS- each eye should be cleaned individually.

The Reading Hospital must be SO proud to have K8 as an alumni.

I said...

Has anyone else noticed the new commercial for table for 12, the announcer says "Bringing Family Back". I wonder if it's in reference to Kon, they are really missing the "family" aspect these days.

Tangerine Tanya said...

timetogokon and Tiny Tee. You are so right about the eye cleaning BABY 101. I have seen nasty Kate wipe their hands and then go directly to their faces. She also uses a community wash cloth. Hummm I wonder if nurse Kate ever heard of conjunctivitis

Tori said...

Don't know if someone already mentioned this, but their on the cover of the May 2009 Good Housekeeping magazine. I saw it at Target the other day. I'm not going to buy it though. Don't want to contribute to the profits, just thought I'd mention it though...

Annies said...

I was wondering if Kate and the PR firm didn't feel the need to hire a "husbandsitter" to watch over Jon while she is away. I figured after his last bit of fun he was probably scolded and grounded for a while. lol

Guess we will have to wait and see.


I think her busy schedule for book signings and speechs starts tomorrow Monday or Tuesday the 14th

They went to church Easter morning Jon, the twins, tups Jon and Eight minus Kate. Was she sick? Home making dinner? or in California!!!!

I would be with my kids at church unless I was deathly ill.

Some lady was with them, maybe in her fifties. She might just be the husbandsitter for the upcoming week

We said...

Annies,
Ahhh such sadness that the woman who claims to be a stay @ home mother,loves her kids and be a Christian couldn't even muster up one ounce of gumption to go to Easter services. Sad oh yes very sad.

Miss Brown Betti said...

Kate not at Easter services with her family? Maybe her red leather jacket was being dry cleaned.

SugarBooger said...

Y'all expect a lot out of nurses... I'm an LPN (yes, that's right, no degree) and I have met many smart, compasionate LVN's, diploma RN's, associate degree RN's, RN's with their BSN, even masters... And I can tell you that for every smart one there's a truckload of stupid ones who just don't care... I don't know that education has as much to do with it as inherent work ethic... It's in you, or it isn't... Now can we please be careful about what we say about education? I'm three months from
having a degree in Legal Studies but plan to continue practice as an LVN until I complete law school... I find all this talk about education offensive in regards to what type of nurse Kate is/was... You wouldn't believe the things I've seen and I'm sure Kate was hardly the worst... I just don't appreciate the insinuation that someone who has less nursing education than Kate would do something stupid like leave an ill child on the cold laundry room floor... Education has nothing to do with it... And I apologize for any typos... It's not because I'm uneducated... I must blame the iPhone!

Anonymomma said...

SugarBooger, absolutely. You said a mouthful. Anyone who has ever been cared for by a nurse (and that is basically all of us) knows how cruicial a good nurse is. Education + compassion + experience.

I've done my time on bed arrest while laid up in the hospital and I can tell you, it was the experience and compassion that made the difference. Education is a good thing to have, whether you are an RN, LPN, or CNA. But what really makes a nurse is one's commitment to her job and her patients. And for the record, while on bed rest, I had a day shift LPN come in 4 days a week to help care for me. She was amazing. I've also had my share of "Nurse Ratchet" experiences,such as RN's who waited 4 hours to answer a call bell (no kidding) or being left in a hallway in the hospital basement while confined to a wheelchair so one particular nurse could go eat her lunch.

I applaud all of the nurses out there who dedicate themselves to the profession. It isn't easy. And their dedication means everything.

On another note, the winter play video on TLC's site? Anyone else pick up on the fact that 'Clark' the production crew member as well as another (camera man?)were basically babysitting and supervising the kids during that shoot? The production crew actually dressed them. Where the eff was the parents, helper, anybody besides a strange guy towering over them? Amazing. Aunt Jodi can't be around the kids but a production team member is given free will and unsupervised access to them.

To think, my 8 yr old daughter is not allowed upstairs without me (or Dad) when any of my sons friends are over to visit and they are in their rooms playing.

Is it just me? Am I the overbearing, overprotective one?

wellitstrue said...

It kind of hurts me when you all post horrible things about Kate's haircut. I have the same style as her,but I have had it since 2003...way before I even seen Kate. Just remember there are some people who have the hairstyle b/c they like it..not that they are trying to be like Kate
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Can we all be honest? Kate's hair is ugly and weird. I doubt you have a hairstyle just like hers. She seems to make it more and more wacky in every episode either to get attention or because she knows it bugs people and that they talk about it. I haven't seen so much going on in one hairstyle, even from Cyndi Lauper in the 80's.

Merrilee said...

C.P Mom said...
Looking over the TLC shows for the next couple of weeks. I am very disappointed that TABLE FOR 12 has an episode about taking ten kids to the dentist. It did not take TLC very long to have this family follow suit like Jon and Kate. We have already seen 8 children go to the dentist, why would we want to see ten go? Who in their right mind would take ten kids to the dentist all at once? I had high hopes for this show and already I am getting the feeling that TLC is going to work their magic and destroy what started out to be a a good show. Now doesn't that sound familiar?

4/12/2009 4:23 PM

TLC does repeat their themes.

The Roloffs have taken many more vacations lately than they did early on in their shows.

Jim Bob and Michelle took several trips and did a couple of dumb things they probably wouldn't have done in "real life."

Roloffs got a dog, though it was hardly worth mentioning. Kates dogs, well ....

Kate's kraziness with all of the themes, the dogs, the vacations, etc... is what TLC would want all the families to do. After all, that is what brings in we gawkers.

mama22girls said...

I actually caught the Park City, UT trip the other day for the first time. I watched the plane ride and couldn't get past it when it first aired. How how how how how does Kate leave EIGHT children because she is "sick" to go skiing for the first time. Yet, she is eager and willing to go to a spa to have herself pampered. She had three other adults helping her take care of eight children. Which means technically they could each handle two at a time...Kate gets under my skin in the most obnoxious way. She does not have an empathetic, loving, nurturing, motherly bone left in that rotten body of hers. Could you imagine being 3 or 4 years old and sick and told to go lay on the floor in the laundry room only to have a man with a camera watching you while your mother screams from another room? Could you imagine being placed on a mountain in cold weather and forced to attend ski school at 4 years old whether or not you like it with people you've never met only to have the same man or men just standing there filming you while you cried out for your mom or dad? Could you imagine being 3 years old and in so much pain you can't walk and not having the comfort of your own mother who waves you away to your father because she must make a decision about bedroom furniture, desperately seeking comfort you have the same man or men just standing there doing nothing but invading your privacy with a camera? Just typing this brings tears to my eyes. Those poor poor kids, all of them. Especially Mady. And in regard to the Masche tups, their parents should be ashamed of themselves. I have NO doubt that they have witnessed the rise of KON and are in it to get out of the jobs and realities of life because they realize how much money they can make off their kids. Table for 12 is ridiculous. I think the parents are genuine and loving but really, TLC is going to pimp and exploit this family as it did with KON's until we have another set of ten children who need a whole other website. I have a three year old and I am a self-proclaimed control freak. But my daughter has choices, she has a say in many of the tiniest things that happen in her life.

Seeing Jon sitting there in the last episode pleading and justifying why he doesn't want to do the show anymore brought out a side of him that I don't think viewers have seen. He had an opinion and was painfully distraught. I do think he loves his children dearly and I think has been able to reflect on extreme pressure and tension that too much filming has caused. But he sat next to that orange, racoon-looking monster without a heart...

The joys of eight childhoods...the smiles, the laughter, the tears, the first times, the experiences, the hugs. Thrown aside for a nanny because KON values money more raising their own children.

I hate this woman. TLC should be ashamed of themselves. I think we should all choose a day to send TLC letters, with the exact same subject lines, so that they can see that people are coming together to speak out for these poor little kids.

I watched a couple of the newer episodes the other day with my three year old to see her reaction to the family and all the kids. We had to change the channel several times however because she was shocked at the kids abusing each other so much. She didn't understand why Mady had kicked her sister in the back repeatedly and Cara had smacked one of her siblings with something she was holding. It was too much for her, she got too emotional and I had to change it. People, my three year old had a look of horror and terror on her face when Alexis was screaming in pain, as a cameraman stood there zooming in on her for the perfect shot.

sueshe said...

It kind of hurts me when you all post horrible things about Kate's haircut. I have the same style as her,but I have had it since 2003...way before I even seen Kate.
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I too wore that hair cut last year and loved it. But my stylist knew how to cut it, blending the back with the front. My problem with Kate's interpretation of this style is that she is combining a very layered back of the hair with one length hair in the front. She then tries to punk it in the back by sticking it up at the crown. That is like wearing 2 different shoes. It doesn't fit. When you see a side shot of Kate's face, it really looks bad. And when it flops in the face and she puts it behind her ear, because the back is so thinned out the hair sticks out and she looks horrible. If she was to put layers in the front, the haircut would be cute. If you remember earlier days when she was growing it out in the front, the hair looked so much better because she had layers. I am surprised a stylist would cut her hair like that. My stylist wouldn't let me out of the chair.

DirtyDisher said...

Kate's heard of KON-junctivitis. She invented it. Apparently it's contagious.

Shari said...

Maybe Kate wasn't at church because Jon & the kids opted to make Season 5 a 'Survivor' theme and voted her off the Konpound. "Kate, the tribe has spoken."

ACompassionateNurseSays said...

Did they not teach compassion or empathy? I'd rather have my cat take care of me than have her as a nurse. I also do not see her as very smart.
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Sadly, you can't TEACH compassion or empathy. Yes I would rather have my cat(s) take care of me than rooster hair girl. No she does not seem too smart.
Taking staples out is VERY simple. I am a nurse, but I know non-nurses who are moms who do it also. You just need the right scissors (they make them just for that).
It's NOT bloody. By the timeyou are removing staples, it's all healed ; there MIGHT be some dried blood- just a minute amount.
Either she wasn't a nurse at all, or she was a REALLY POOR one and/or, didnt' work in a very clinically-oriented area.
She's a horrid person and the minute I saw her come in to my room I would complain to the Nurse Manager of that floor. There is NO WAY I would let HER be assigned to me or any family member of mine.

TechGirl said...

Someone recently posted about seeing Kate somewhere and noticing that she has nice skin. I know she got some heat for it, as do many people who post anything remotely positive here; hence, my reservations in posting this. But I've got nothing too lose...

I saw Kate recently at an event I was involved in. I didn't interact with her directly, but we were in the same room for quite some time as she was prepping for her appearance. I saw her pre-makeup and post-makeup. Yes, she does have nice skin. But what struck me the most is how fit she is. She is clearly very healthy. She isn't too skinny; she has a runner's body. I know attractiveness is a matter of personal opinion, so I'm not here to claim how beautiful she is. I'm just saying her level of physical fitness was inspiring.

Tangerine Tanya said...

mama22girls, Oh you put it very well! I TOTALLY agree with you!

DirtyDisher and Shari your comments cracked me up.

I hope all of the mods and posters have a safe and happy week.

Midwest Mom said...

Early on in the series, Kate stated that the reason she quit her nursing job was because:

"WE collectively decided I would stay home full-time with the kids."

Somehow, I think Jon had no say-so in that decision. Or, could it be that her employer ASKED her to leave? Because of her personality?

Kate quit her job so that JON could stay home full-time with the kids.

Kate finds any and every excuse possible to be away from her children......be it a spa day....book signing....or laying a sick child on the laundry room floor so she doesn't have to deal with him.

She makes me sick.

Ms.Peach said...

TechGirl said...
I saw her pre-makeup and post-makeup. Yes, she does have nice skin. But what struck me the most is how fit she is. She is clearly very healthy. She isn't too skinny; she has a runner's body. I know attractiveness is a matter of personal opinion, so I'm not here to claim how beautiful she is. I'm just saying her level of physical fitness was inspiring.

I always thought Kate was cute, even when she had the "jowls of the dog." However with her freebie tummy tuck, teeth whitening, botox, fake tan, and extreme weight loss (you can see her collar bones which is not sexy), she is no longer a "natural" beauty in my opinion. She has definitely crossed over into Celebrity Land. That said, I appreciate your candor. My gripe with her is that she wouldn't be where she is today (i.e. money to change her appearance) without pimping her kids.

ginnymae said...

"But what struck me the most is how fit she is. She is clearly very healthy. She isn't too skinny; she has a runner's body."

Mo wonder. She's constantly RUNNING from her kids.

(sorry, it was too easy to pass up)

so irritated said...

Re: the Hayes, and Masche families.

I wonder if these familes were approached some time ago for a series and declined, because they went with their gut instinct that this is not in the children's best interest. TLC already had the Kon show, which started out in a fairly benign manner showing how this family of 10 handled everyday life. In an effort to reel more familes in, TLC starts going over the top with Kon- cash, vacations, fame, adoring fans who send gifts, free designer clothing for the whole family, plastic surgery, book deals, spa days for K8, housekeepers, groundskeepers, nannies, chef and of course... now the mansion, ski condo and sports car.

No one was signing on when Kate was being shown wheeling her cart around Sam's trying to stick to a strict budget. TLC laid the bait and is now reeling them in. Shame on TLC for taking these families who were doing the right thing for their kids and dangling a big green carrot covered with $$$ in front of them. We can say the families should have stuck to their guns and said no- but until we've walked in their shoes we can't criticize their decision to say yes when such riches are placed before them.

Reading news said...

monica said...
"I know I saw it posted on a previous thread but I was hoping someone remembers the brand of the new refrigerator kate got after she not so subtly berated the former owners about the one they left behind. I know it wasn't a whirlpool or we would have been forced to see the label at least 10 times. I read it cost like $8000 and just wondered if it was true. Thanks:)"


The last time I posted this on here I was told I was wrong by several posters. It was a Sub Zero, similar to the former one, and I got it right from the horse's mouth. I have no idea the exact cost but I know they are a "big Buck" item.

Tigerfan said...

"I'm just saying her level of physical fitness was inspiring."

So Kate Gosselin is a physical fit CHILD EXPLOITER. Sorry. Not impressed!

JustSayNo! said...

We can say the families should have stuck to their guns and said no- but until we've walked in their shoes we can't criticize their decision to say yes when such riches are placed before them.
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I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. As a mother of young children, I cannot ever fathom exposing my children to public scrutiny for money!! Moral relativism is what dooms all civilizations, including the U.S. There is such a thing as right and wrong, and, yes, I can criticize their decision because IT IS WRONG TO EXPLOIT YOUR CHILDREN. Period.

Shelly said...

I skipped the Hayes show. Though they are much more likable than Kon, I think I've seen enough multiple/large family stuff for a lifetime. Just knowing all this stuff going on around the Kon kids.. It's really awful. I don't think I can stomach another trip. This is the kind of shit that makes people hate Americans and our way of life. 2 talentless nobodies are rich and revered by millions for what? TLC should be ashamed. I admit I use to watch TLC and Discovery because of the medical aspect. I love a good surgery show! But now all there is is Kon and re-runs of tumors from '05. Come on TLC. Gimme my tumors and giant legs back!

TechGirl said...

Tigerfan, my posting about my sighting of Kate Gosselin was not meant to impress you, be rest assured. My understanding is that people on this board like to hear about sightings. I had nothing negative to report about her, sorry to disappoint you. I was simply stating what I saw from a few feet away. I could pick her apart and tell you that she was mean and hateful and wore hooker shoes, but it wasn't the case. She was smiling and pleasant and pretty. That was my observation. End of story.

Merrilee said...

As we have discussed before, TLC has become a carnavil side show. They are showing people with some heart-breaking deformities and birth difficulties.

I have clicked in and out of some of those shows.

I wouldn't look at most of these individuals if I saw them in real life, out of respect for their privacy.

Like that poor lady with the huge legs that was on yesterday.

I have the ultimate sympathy for that woman. She is very brave and I am sad for her, but it is hard to watch her for the full length of the show about her.

I felt like I was intruding on her life.

I feel quite certain that I would not agree to being filmed if that were me.

That being said, the current trend of finding families with many children might be a GOOD thing if it shows the contrast between J&K and the other families.

Perhaps this will help bring on the demise of J&K's popularity and perhaps end their show, hopefully.

We can clearly see there is no correlation between having many children and turning into a witch, like Kate has done.

That may be a very good thing.

I think this type of show may become tiresome and some other trend will begin.

Just like all the house-flipping shows have run their course, perhaps large families will also lose their popularity.

Melissa P. Gentry said...

"I'm just saying her level of physical fitness was inspiring."

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And we all would be physically fit if we had nannies, trainers, chef/cook and access to plastic surgeons and had all the time in the world to do nothing but workout.

Not impressed that this woman THINKS she is above all others. She is a child exploiter through and through and it won't matter how many surgeries or how many miles she runs on her treadmill. She is what she is.

Midwest Mom said...

"TechGirl said: ......I'm just saying her level of physical fitness was inspiring."

Too bad Kate's level of MOTHERHOOD FITNESS is appalling.

blahblah said...

I was just trying to imagine the conversation J&K will have in the future with their children.

"Ummm Mommie and Daddie didn't want to work no more and the only way we could do that Colin is by showing you constipated in the back of the family van with daddie [grocery bag in hand] helping you go potty" -

And "Mady don't be so upset with us I'm sure your other friends parents caught them on tape throwing tantrums" -

J&K = IDIOTS!

pinkdiamond611 said...

Tech girl, how can you tell by looking at someone if they are "very healthy"? Or, for that matter, very fit? It seems to me you need to see someone at least running a few laps, instead of sitting in a makeup chair. . . .Just saying. Kate has stated for the record on the camera, that she doesn't not enjoy physical things.
And for the record, what was this event you saw Kate at? Why so mysterious?

----------------------------------Tech girl said:I saw Kate recently at an event I was involved in. I didn't interact with her directly, but we were in the same room for quite some time as she was prepping for her appearance. I saw her pre-makeup and post-makeup. Yes, she does have nice skin. But what struck me the most is how fit she is. She is clearly very healthy. She isn't too skinny; she has a runner's body. I know attractiveness is a matter of personal opinion, so I'm not here to claim how beautiful she is. I'm just saying her level of physical fitness was inspiring.

4/13/2009 6:06 AM

Ms.Peach said...

TechGirl said...
My understanding is that people on this board like to hear about sightings.

Yes, we do. Thanks for your imput.

WTH? said...

From a Reality interview I quote
Jon Gosselin:

"I always thought I'd be, like, 54-years-old and marry a 19-year-old or something," Jon told the Journal.


WOW!

so irritated said...

Just Say No! said.... I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. As a mother of young children, I cannot ever fathom exposing my children to public scrutiny for money!! Moral relativism is what dooms all civilizations, including the U.S. There is such a thing as right and wrong, and, yes, I can criticize their decision because IT IS WRONG TO EXPLOIT YOUR CHILDREN. Period.

You are absolutley right. Child exploitation is wrong and unacceptable on every level. I wouldn't subject my kids to performing on a reality show for money, either. But while I wish these familes would have said 'no thanks', TLC is making it extremely hard for them to do so.


It makes me sick that this whole debacle started from the fact that Jon and Kate are irresponsible idiots. The only plan they could come up with to support 8 kids was Grandpa's money, God, hand outs, begging and welfare. When those sources dried up and they seemed to find working at real jobs unacceptable, they sought out TLC. They were willing to do what no other HOM family before was willing to do- have their children support them. By their greed and laziness they broke down a taboo. I'm not saying the other familes are right for making the decisions they did, but if I'm going to lay blame it's with TLC and KON. Mutual greed found each other and blazed the trail for subsequent HOM exploitation shows.

lisa k said...

I saw her pre-makeup and post-makeup. Yes, she does have nice skin.
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Um-Hum...That is what $$$$$ can buy you, lots of nice skin from Botox and such.

TechGirl said...

While I didn't get the opportunity to ask Kate to do a few laps or do a body fat test on her, it was obvious that she was in shape. She has muscle tone. "Healthy" may mean different things to different people. To me, Kate looked healthy. You guys can take from this whatever you want. It was just my observation, and my life will still be okay if you don't believe me.

I saw Kate at an expo-type event where I was as part of my job. You'll please pardon me if I choose to remain a tad bit anonymous when talking to a group of strangers on the Internet. I'm not going to name where I saw her. If that makes me less credible than every other anonymous person on this board, then so be it. I'm done beating this dead horse, so peace out.

Hambone said...

Kate wouldn't look so physically fit had she not had a free tummy tuck, spa facials, and unlimited tanning sessions ( and the pressure of looking good for tv and all her sheeple fans ).

If she had no tv show, she'd still be frumpy old Kate...butt in the front and all.

I'll give her credit for the treadmill thing. I did that a few years ago and got really buff for a while,too...but it didn't last. I got bored with it. And with Kate's history, she'll get bored with it, as well.

Maybe she's "fit" from those loooong walks down the driveway to get her mail. It's like....what....18 miles long? And cleaning refridgerators for hours upon end will surely tone up anyone's biceps :)

I do think Kate is pretty, sans the hair. But it's her personality that makes her so unattractive, no matter how toned she is. I happen to think Ruby Gettinger is FAR FAR more beautiful than Kate...because her beauty oozes from the inside out.

My5blessings said...

TechGirl said...
While I didn't get the opportunity to ask Kate to do a few laps or do a body fat test on her, it was obvious that she was in shape. She has muscle tone. "Healthy" may mean different things to different people. To me, Kate looked healthy. You guys can take from this whatever you want. It was just my observation, and my life will still be okay if you don't believe me.

I saw Kate at an expo-type event where I was as part of my job. You'll please pardon me if I choose to remain a tad bit anonymous when talking to a group of strangers on the Internet. I'm not going to name where I saw her. If that makes me less credible than every other anonymous person on this board, then so be it. I'm done beating this dead horse, so peace out.

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No horse beating. I'm going to give a different perspective.
You being credible btw or not doesn't really matter to me.

Who cares if she's gorgeous, ugly, fat, skinny, dresses in a way one person may or may not like?
Same for Jon, he is in no way left out of this.

The point is this, they are living with no regard for their children's mental health. THAT is what matters. Not how fit or unfit she is, or how fit or unfit Jon is.

Money can buy many things, but it can NEVER buy true happiness. It's always temporary. That's why you see the "starWorld" in the chaos it is in currently.

It's such a shame, beyond shameful they have chosen money over their children's souls.........

If it were me, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night, let alone get up and "run the treadmill"
But, hey, that's just me.

jonandkatewho? said...

TechGirl ~
I hope you don't feel attacked after letting us all know about your sighting of Kate.

I think it's just that people find her so reprehensible and despise her so much that it's sometimes difficult to hear anything positive about her.

I do believe you, and I thank you for posting about what you saw.

konspiracytheory said...

johnandkatewho? said:

TechGirl ~
I hope you don't feel attacked after letting us all know about your sighting of Kate.

I think it's just that people find her so reprehensible and despise her so much that it's sometimes difficult to hear anything positive about her.

I do believe you, and I thank you for posting about what you saw.

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Same here - thank you.

babiemommie said...

Jon and Kate are digging themselves deeper and deeper in their lies and deception. QFI church appearances will be the death of this show. I was at a church where Kate was speaking and a couple of times the members of the audience were looking around at each other as if too say "Did she just say that?!"

At this appearance she spoke how after the show was done filming she and Jon needed to get away for awhile without the 'kids' a seven day cruise. This was right after she had given a long speech about how she and Jon never ever leave the kids for long periods of time. On the cruise she went on to say that she spent most of the day swimming and tanning not once mentioning what Jon was up too. That was when everyone looked around thinking they went on this trip to reconnect? Okey dokey.

Anyway after the speech 1/2 the audience left while the other 1/2 [sheeple] got in line to get an autograph. They were trying to usher 1/2 of us into the line and it was kinda funny as we all just left.

juairefamily said...

Im new here to this website. I have a question. What ever happened between Kate and Aunt Jodie? Ive read that there is hard feelings now between them and Id really like to know what happened?

Nana R said...

Admittedly I started off like any other grandmother, just pleased to be able to watch these cute little kids interact, especially since I see my grandchildren rarely now and miss the time when one lived with me for a time.

I wondered where the grandparents were and wished I could trade places with them - before I was clued in on the background with the families. Now I am just sad for the grandparents.

And I keep thinking "Poor kids" - their mother is so self involved, maybe Mady and Cara (at a minimum) need court appointed adults to advocate for them and their interests. Beyond that, considering that the six are a PA State Treasure, they're not being treated as such.

Thinking about the nursing angle, I flashed back to my mom who was also an RN and about the most emotionally distant and superficial person you'd ever come across. Not that all RNs are like that - but to point out that just being a nurse does not make someone caring and nurturing.

It's just terribly sad from a mom and grandparent's perspective especially.

criticalthinker said...

I know that there has been so much speculation as to why Kate's parents "Aren't involved in their day to day lives". I spent a few minutes trying to see if there were more clear answers than the ones I have gleaned from this wonderful blog, and it seems as though there are two main theories. The first is the most plausible (especially after reading that complete joke Kate has the audacity to call a book). Kate apparently acted like a selfish, spoiled brat after the tups were born and demanded cash and brand new, matching items from the kind parishioners at her father's church. He called her out on her behavior, and there was a huge falling out between them. The second fairly prevalent rumor is that Kate's parents are missing several teeth, run a trailer park, and engage in shady business deals, thus the reason for not seeing their grandkids too often.
Does anyone know if either of these theories have any grains of truth? If the first theory is closest to the truth, who put the other, inflammatory theory out there? Any inside info? Anyone more informed than myself who can shed light on this? I am just so disturbed that the Kreiders would be villified as toothless trailer trash if that were not the truth.

obsessedsays: said...

Kate has two hairstyles on one head...its like a reverse mullet.
Her hair is slightly more annoying than she is

timetogokon said...

Tech girl - This is in no way meant as an attack on you - just my personal opinions :

1) I don't care about K8's or Jon's looks, which is why I never comment on them - I do care that KON's physical appearances are improved at the cost of their children's emotional stability and well being.

2) I don't care if someone saw K8 and she supposedly wasn't a big biatch - I care that she is a selfish, greedy woman who is horrible to her family, friends and often her own fans.

3) I don't care to hear about someone's experience at one of their speaking engagements- I care that KON continuously spin their "cry for me" sob story and are pathological liars.

4) I don't care about them getting a big house or Jon getting a mid-life crisis car - I care that those poor kids worked for the $ to earn those things.

For me, there is NOTHING KON can do to change my opinion that they are one of the worst sets of parents in the history of parents.

So, to end my long post: good for K8 that she is so healthy and fit, shame on K8 for always putting herself before her children.

A Sucker is Born Every Minute said...

Yeah, I don't give a rat's patootie what Ms. Katie Irene looks like. I hate what she has done and continues to do to her children in her race to beat the "Jones". So, she thinks she a super star and needs a body guard and luxury vacations after a grueling filming schedule. Who cares what those poor children need --- NOT want, NEED. She's just so charming, NOT.

Sharla said...

There was a post earlier today from "anonymous" saying none of his/her posts ever made it through. Please check the blog rules and posting guidelines and you should see that we don't accept anonymous comments. Thanks.

Donna said...

I'm just curious--where did we hear that Jon bought that car/was going to buy that car he was photographed in front of? From the photo, it just seemed like he was looking at it with other people--perhaps one of them was buying it or it was a friend of his' car? I'm not denying that he is capable of it or that you're all lying, I'm just curious if there is something I'm missing about this whole car thing? Thanks! :)

Froggus. said...

jonandkatewho? said...
TechGirl ~
I hope you don't feel attacked after letting us all know about your sighting of Kate.

I think it's just that people find her so reprehensible and despise her so much that it's sometimes difficult to hear anything positive about her.

I do believe you, and I thank you for posting about what you saw.


i third that.
thank you.

Roryz said...

I agree with the posters who say that Kate's appearance either attractive or not has no real significance. I think perhaps it is indicative of someone who has the time, the money and the motivation to worry about her looks. If she is indeed interested in a career as a talk show host or spokesperson, then she would have to amp up her look, but what IS troubling is that all of this is done at the expense of her children's childhood. I guess to Kate it seems like a fair trade...her babies' privacy and sense of well-being in exchange for the flat tummy, whitened teeth, nice wardrobe and big, big house.

R2D2-CPO said...

Here's my understanding of why Kate has no contact with her parents. Her parents were very involved in their lives when the twins were born. In fact her parents co-signed on their first home. After the tups were born Kate felt like her parents were not 'helping' as much as she would have liked. Her parents had other grand children but Kate acted/behaved as if they should drop everything and give all their attention, time and money to her family.

She was always upset when she heard grandma was 'helping' out her brother or sisters kids because she felt like grandma should be over at her house.

As a friend of the family I can tell you that it is and was always about JEALOUSY. Her parents are heart broken and would love to hear from her or Jon.

They have tried many times to contact Jon and Kate but their calls and messages have not been returned. Benny's birthday party last year was held at a restaurant and the Gosselin family was invited. Needless to say they did not attend.

wramblinwreck said...

"My understanding is that people on this board like to hear about sightings. I had nothing negative to report about her, sorry to disappoint you. I was simply stating what I saw from a few feet away."

Thanks for sharing, TechGirl. When describing a sighting, most people include the venue; ie, if it's a public appearance, like a book signing, or casual "on the street," like the grocery store. Since you saw her both pre- and post-makeup, it sounds like you saw her at a public appearance, and I'm amazed that you were able to get so close to Kate twice: before makeup and after. From all previous reports her bodyguard does an effective job keeping her fans a safe distance away.

"She is clearly very healthy. She isn't too skinny; she has a runner's body."

There's no way to know anyone's health status judging solely by their appearance.

K8 H8ter said...

Oh, to be a fly on the wall during the kids' teenage years. Whenever Kate yells, hits, threatens, or demeans one of her kids (or Jon for that matter), the retorts will go from "Mommy, you're a boy!" to "Mom, you're a bitch."

Sharla said...

Criticalthinker, you're last comment would be more appropriate on the Facebook group than here. The blog should be about the Gosselins while the Facebook group can be more personal. I hope you understand. I'll save your comment. If you need, please email me.

Jen K said...

R2D2-CPO,

You mentioned that you are a friend of the family. If so, do you know anything about Jon and Kate's involvement in the church prior to having the kids? I had heard that their involvement in church and quoting bible passages didn't happen until they needed assistance from Kate's dad's congregation and that they may have embellished their faith a bit with an eye toward getting in the congregation's good graces. I have also heard from more than one person that Jon and Kate had more of a "party" lifestyle prior to having the kids and that it didn't exactly mesh with their new-found religious lifestyle. Any light you can shed on those topics?

ICExploitation said...

tech girl -

I don't believe anyone doubts your story.

Kate is probably in the best shape of her life.

She admitted on Oprah that she gets up at 5:30 in morning to run on her treadmill for two hours.

I think what people find disgusting is that she has thin new found appreciation for her looks and can get up to work out - but from the very begininng, she stated she is not a morning person and never got up early for her kids.

Anonymomma said...

In response to TechGirl's posts, I see what you're saying. Physically, I think Kate is a pretty girl. And it isn't even so much as where the money comes from to make her that pretty (though it's part of what bothers me) as much as the amount of time. Time spent in front of a mirror rather than with her kids.

I don't consider myself a supermodel. But I can attract my fair share of attention when I take the time to get highlights, have my nails done, go tanning (haven't done that in about 2 years), hair, makeup, clothes, etc.

But the thing is, I don't care to do it anymore. I'm 30 yrs old (younger than Kate) with 5 kids. There are days when I get bored and in the mood to 'dress up' and so I do. And I always do for holidays. I like being girly. But my kids are priority. I now spend my evenings stying my daughter's hair and picking out clothes for her to look good in at school the next day. I put my energy into that.

Is Kate a bad person for looking good and being healthy? Not at all. If it weren't for the fact that it takes her hours to look that way (treadmill, other training, tanning sessions, salon, etc) I would compliment her on it. But what makes her ugly to me is how she neglects time with her kids to do it.

And one more thing. For as much as I loath her, I really really pray Kate lands a talk show or something else. I pray it's more lucrative that this show. And I pray that it doesn't involve the kids at all. She stepped on them long enough to build her professional image and now I think it's time she leave them be.

PS - I am working on a draft of a letter to the PA Dept. of Labor, which I plan to submit here with the mods approvals. Something we can all print out and send or even email to them in regards to the Gosseling 8. A few letters may not make a difference but a few hundred can. It's worth a shot.

Anonymomma said...

In regards to the other shows out there that are exploiting large families, I so totally agree with those who have said that TLC is like the serpent luring them to bite the apple. Not that I don't think the parents should be held accountable because ultimately no one is twisting their arms. But TLC is providing the platform in which these people can loophole their kids childhoods away for cash.

I think the Dept. of Labor ought to look into TLC and Figure 8 Films just as much as the parents.

I know the economy sucks right now, but where in the hell are the morals of these production crew members when it comes to filming the kids in various compromising positions? Sorry but, I couldn't do it. Even if my job depended on it. I couldn't live with myself knowing I contributed to that footage in any way.

mollybloom said...

The show's Wikipedia entry continues to be a joke. Although the Reading Eagle is unacceptable as a legitimate source, Entertainment Weekly and Parent Dish are just fine according to the site. Go figure. This is a good example of why students (I'm a teacher) should not consider Wikipedia as a legitimate research source. Class over.

overwithKON said...

Hannah W said...
I just realized we've seen Christmas,4th of July,Valentines Day, and birthdays but not Easter or Halloween. It doesn't shock me though because Easter and Halloween are mostly for the kids, what would Kate get out of the kids trick-or-treating or hunting for Easter Eggs? Sad though, I loved doing that stuff as a kid.

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I was just going to post this....I understand Halloween maybe against their *religion*, but I dont think Easter is. Even if they dont want to focus on the easter bunny, they still could go to church(for real), dress the little kids up, see family, something. But I guess you are right, these days are about the kids, so they WONT DO IT. Also I was thinking that the other holidays that we have seen are ones where they GET STUFF. Like Christmas, everyone ripping open presents, birthdays - same thing, valentines day - the only one we saw they all had presents. But when it comes to holidays we have never seen anything to do with new years(Hayes family next episode), halloween(Masche's dressed their 6 up like bees and the mom and dad were the bee keepers, cute/simple/fun/imagination, nothing K8 understands), easter, thanksgiving(Lordy Be, no THANKSgiving?). Sure the sheeple could say that they want to keep it to themselves(private), but we all know the truth on that one. Also I only remember seeing one Mothers Day and no Fathers days(that I know of). Hmmmm......... Selfish, selfcentered people. Karma is a B!TCH!

wramblinwreck said...

"I saw Kate at an expo-type event where I was as part of my job. You'll please pardon me if I choose to remain a tad bit anonymous when talking to a group of strangers on the Internet. I'm not going to name where I saw her. If that makes me less credible than every other anonymous person on this board, then so be it."

It's true that everyone who posts to this board is anonymous, but most are only contributing their opinions. When an anonymous poster claims to have information not available to others but declines to offer specifics about how they acquired the information, I think most of us are inclined to question that poster's credibility. I don't settle for "take my word for it" in my everyday life, and I certainly wouldn't do so for anything posted on the Internet.

sillygoose said...

An article about Jon and Kate going green:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1647619/jon_and_kate_see_green_by_going_green.html?cat=39

Ms.Peach said...

"it's the same speech she gives everywhere, I think. I had read about other speeches Kate has given, and this was almost exactly the same. her personality was dry, it felt to me like she was just there to do her job, and nothing more. that was disappointing. she looked pretty. and she's really thin."

"wasn't too impressed with her speaking either but it was still cool to see her in person after watching the show for so long on TV."

"She didn't seem like the friendliest person in the world either."

"J&K speak at churches because they don't have to pay taxes on money collected at a church. Jon has been caught saying that on a forum he used to be on,before they had a show."

"She looked just like she does on tv, but she did not seem very genuine. It was like she had an entire script memorized at the end she even said And that's all. And she never said she appreciated being asked to speak or thanked anyone for coming to hear her speak."

"It seemed very rehearsed and not very genuine. The words she was saying were okay, I guess, but there was no truth or heart behind them. Like when she said something like, "Speaking in churches is my favorite part. It's where the Gosselin's ministry is real." I don't know if anyone believed her. The only way to describe the way she spoke would be to imagine your most monotoned teacher in high school reading stereo instructions. She only cracked a smile once or twice. It was a huge disappointment for many that I knew who were HUGE fans of hers before they saw her. Now, they've stopped watching the show."

Comments from bloggers regarding Kate's appearance at First Christian Church, Elizabethtown, KY on March 8.

Shari said...

I'm trying to wrap my mind around someone charging a CHURCH a $25,000 'speaking fee', also requiring a 'love offering' from the congregation and then standing up there talking about a 7-day cruise to the very congregation that basically paid for it. She's digging her own grave & doing a fantastic job of it.

I loved hearing that they were trying to usher the half that were leaving into the autograph line. It seems the Sheeple are getting fewer and fewer .....

And do those poor kids, who are responsible for raking in all this dough for them, ever reap any rewards for it that DON'T require them performing like monkies for the cameras? It seems the only trips they get to go on are the working ones.

lyra said...

In episode after episode, I've noticed Kate restraining her children from getting messy. Why does this disturb me so much? Why does it pain me to see that she cares so much about them looking "nice" in public that she won't let Maddie use a marker at the Crayola factory, in case she gets her nice clothes stained?

Kids are messy. Sometimes they enjoy getting dirty, sometimes it's just collateral damage. My heart hurts each time I see that they little kids have internalized their mom's germaphobia, even at that young age. In one episode, I remember Kate saying that she tried to get the kids to keep all their Play-Doh colors separate and unmingled.

I long to see the kids supervised by a joyful, free-spirited mom who lets them let loose and be creative (as opposed to "cultured," whatever that means). I long to see them vent their energy in happy, messy ways, and am I the only one who thinks that maybe, just maybe, if they were allowed to get a little bit messy, the kids would spend less time turning on each other so aggressively?

I realize that due to editing, the kids (and the parents) sometimes tend to be exhibited in a negative light, but the episode in the new house where Maddie is viciously kicking one of the little girls in the side to get her to leave her bedroom, made me feel ill.

fashionfan said...

Just a comment, really, to identify the shoes that Kate was wearing at the Southern Women's show. They are from the spring Cole Haan Nike Air Casual line. I actually thought they were cute, and are probably really comfortable since they are from the Air line.

Willow #1 said...

I am just really upset. Right in the middle of Roloffs and Hayes', we have to have another Gosselin repeat. Sneaky, huh? The Gosselins and their agents must be really good!!! They don't just want to be #1, they want to be the one and only ones on there and apparently the agents can get them anything they want. That is probably how they get so many gigs. I am getting good at getting that remote control switched really quick! LOL.

To the poster who mentioned Kate having coupons in her hair - loved that. That always bugged me also. It needs scissors to cut that long, thick piece off. It is awful and irritating - but remember - Kate loves her thick hair!!

I was really hoping the bad press would have an effect on them, but not so. Thats why I say - their handlers are really good at spinning and perservering.

Jane in California said...

Re Kate's physical fitness -- I imagine she is quite slender and possibly very fit, especially if she is working out every day. How nice for her - 8 kids, 6 of them not even in kindergarten yet, and able to fit in daily work outs. Actually, it is rather impressive, considering how many days per month she's away from home, that she can stick to a fitness regime.

All that doesn't impress me much -- because I'm one of those moms who is in the trenches and single mom to boot -- so I get up at 6 a.m., fix breakfast and lunch for myself and my son, get us both out the door and starting our day by 7:40, put in a full day at the office, then home again in time to fix dinner, feed the cat and the fish, clean house, help with homework, do dishes, do laundry, and hopefully catch a tv show or two before bedtime.

I don't relate to Kate - not in her cold-hearted parenting style, not in her comfort in belittling her husband, not in her skinny jeans and stiletto heels on an "outing" with her young children, not in her bleached teeth and spray booth skin, not in her jetting around to speaking engagements 10 or more days per month, every month, leaving her children behind, not in anything she says or does. I. DO. NOT. RELATE.

ICExploitation said...

Regarding the Cole Haan shoes - nice to know that Kate can afford $300 for a pair of shoes.

I also want to mention the comment that the car that Jon "purchased" was "mid-range" priced - for whom?

L said...

TechGirl thank you for your observation. I have noticed the "sightings" have gone down quite a bit, and it's good to see some people still contributing.

Good Grief said...

The Gosselins and their agents must be really good!!! They don't just want to be #1, they want to be the one and only ones on there and apparently the agents can get them anything they want.

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Huh? The Gosselins' agents do not control the TLC schedule. The show airs so often because it gets high ratings.

Tami said...

To the poster who mentioned Kate having coupons in her hair - loved that. That always bugged me also. It needs scissors to cut that long, thick piece off. It is awful and irritating - but remember - Kate loves her thick hair!!
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When I was having her Easter pictures done recently, I mentioned ot the photographer how my 4 year old gave herself a semi-mullet and hacked off the front and sides of her hair. She told me about her mom being a teacher and how one day a little boy in the class cut off another boy's long "tail" on his hair. The mom was furious but the teacher was secretly pleased because she had fantasized about cutting that off forever. It would be funny if one of the tups, practicing with scissors, hacked mommy's crazy little fringe off the front of her face. lol. Even funnier if it was Hannah since she's immune from being punished.

Tami said...

As far as Kate's level of fitness, it's a shame if she has any level of fitness since it goes to waste. She does not play with her kids, does not like outdoorsy things. She is lazy and uninvolved when it comes to other people having fun, i.e, her kids wanting their parents to play with and participate in activities instead of yelling from a chair in the garage. To say she hasa the energy to get up at 5 and run on a treadmill just seems so selfish to me since she could not be dragged out of bed to help the twins get ready for school. (not a morning person and all). I managed to work out at the YMCA for 40 minutes today while 2 of my kids used the daycare and my 3rd played in the tween room. I don't have much of a level of fitness or a runner's body, but all the exercise in the world will not fix what is wrong with her.

Brandi said...

I just wanted to say that I had my first sighting of Kate hair today at lunch. My son spotted a blonde woman at the next table who had the full porcupine butt effect going on, and he got all excited and said "Mom, it's Kate! She's here!" He would not let it go, just wouldn't believe that it wasn't her. It's the first time I've seen a copy of her do.

Heidi said...

I agree with what another poster said about Kate`s hair. It is not the style that is annoying, it is the execution of it. The layering from side to back is way too severe. It is like a reverse Mullet. It needs to have more blending of the layering from the back to the front. She also would look much better if she had more natural looking highlights and some lowlights in there.
Kate has become a wanna-be icon. She does all this primping and preening for the camera and her outings. Many of us would probably not mind if the Old Kate showed up looking the way she used to look..like a real mom. Not saying that any Moms that are fit and dress that way are not real. Some Moms have to work outside of home, and they have to look a certain way. But she never had a job like that. She could have stayed the way she was and no one would have cared. I think what bothers us most (among other things) is that she erased herself. She used to have the genuine look of a Mom and we all liked that. She does not look like a mom of 8 from PA. She looks like a Beverly Hills wanna-be.

LB said...

Does anyone recall what episode it was called that had Joel lying on the laundry room when he had the flu? I missed it the first time so obviously I had to sit down and watch it when they re-aired it a few weeks ago. Two things struck me as odd; the way Joel turned his head around toward the camera both times after he threw up. Those made me think of something I had seen before in a movie. The angle of shot and his appearance just stuck in my mind, that’s all. Did anyone notice the first thing Kate says to Jon when he gets home is that they don’t have any more comforters? Not that Joel had the flu? That episode was badly edited overall but I thought that was a strange thing to say to your spouse upon arrival at home. Why does she care so much about the comforters? They are supposed to get dirty now and then, you know. Would she rather have vomit on the carpet or comforter? She must have a kooky way of thinking that a 4-year-old child surely can control the projectile of his/her vomit. My child once vomited on my purse I left on the floor. Did I get mad or make an issue of it? No, I just cleaned it up and let it go. I didn’t get why she had the laundry room door shut. The way she was whining and complaining about laundry duty during flu season, I couldn’t stand it. It happens once a year. So what? What’s the big deal of ‘falling behind with laundry’? You can catch up next week. I was also amazed that she had THREE people folding, ironing and putting away clothes. Why don’t Jon and Kate do the two out of these three people’s duties? Then they would only have an excuse for having one servant. That is insane. My mother had five children under one roof, from baby to high school. She was a stay-at-home mom and she did not have three servants doing her housework. I actually am starting to think KON must think they are so incapable of functioning without servants. I don’t care if she says their situation is ‘rare’ or ‘unique’. Gag me with a spoon, please!

justmy2cents said...

In response to: "I am just really upset. Right in the middle of Roloffs and Hayes', we have to have another Gosselin repeat. Sneaky, huh? The Gosselins and their agents must be really good!!!

I dont think the airing of Monday nights repeat of J & K + 8 has anything to do with their agents but everything to do with TLC keeping viewers in their scheduled routine of watching J & K + 8 during the reality show's hiatus'. TLC most certainly do not want viewers to get in to the habit of switching the channel during the J & K + 8 time slot considering the reality show is scheduled to return for a 5th season.

aggiemom0912 said...

they have to pay taxes on the income received from church visits...this is considered INCOME. I have been a church treasurer, and anyone doing work over $400 received a 1099 at the end of the year...they need to stop taking money from churches, instead, they need to give it!

jonandkatewho? said...

About the hair.

A couple years ago or after she first had it cut, it looked good. It was a nice cut. It was not as thick in the front or as mussed in the back.

Now it hangs there and to me the colors she puts in make it look like the edges of a throw rug. There is too much to tuck behind her ear so it sticks out funny when she does that. It's a pretty ridiculous look now.

About having all the servants. She needs them now because she has to go everywhere and promote her books and speak at churches. Don't you know she's a busy woman and even though this is the hardest job they've ever had, she loves her new life?

Oh wait...didn't she say she loved it because they could be home with the kids? Wait a minute....yeah. It doesn't compute, does it?

jonandkatewho? said...

Sorry for the second post on the same topic: THE HAIR...the color.

Those stripes in the front, on my television, appear to be comprised of some bronze colored stripes and some gray ones. It's funky looking. Not in a good way. It used to be a golden highlighted color when she had it short. It used to look so much better. It doesn't look like real hair anymore.

Midwest Mom said...

Here's Kate's quote of the century, from last nite's re-run of "All You Want To Know"....

The question was: Do Kate & Jon worry about how the filming will affect the children?

Her answer: "WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT OUR KIDS. THEY ARE FINE."

I can't believe she really said that. Or, wait, yes I can......

Yes, Kate, it's obvious you don't give your children a second thought.

SmartyQ said...

R2D2-CPO said... Here's my understanding of why Kate has no contact with her parents. Her parents were very involved in their lives when the twins were born. In fact her parents co-signed on their first home. While QFI's parents are comfortable, I doubt they either sprung for the down payment or co-signed for the mortgage. (And for the poster who wondered if QFI's parents were shoeless, toothless hillbillies, not true.)

I think it was Jane's father, Poppy, who picked up the tab for their first house. A poster noted that Poppy's name was on the deed. By QFI's own admission, they spent their money as fast as they earned it. Why plan ahead when someone else will provide?

HereinNC said...

I've lurked here for a while, and agree with the general distaste for Kate and Jon. I didn't see it at first, when the show began, but after reading comments and going back to look at more recent episodes, absolutely they are exploiting their children. I am glad this site exists so that people will pay attention to the situation and try to help these poor kids.

Here's what I think--and I apologize if this repeats what others have also posted: If a person wants lots of children, he or she should be prepared to take care of those children accordingly. I didn't want a lot, so I only had one. I knew I couldn't care for more than probably two. So I made the choice that made sense. Kate seems to have been caught up in the *idea* of multiple children, and now doesn't want to be their caretaker (though I agree she seems to like babies--maybe because they are portable and don't talk back to her). This always seems odd to me. Do people not realize that raising children is work? Kate already had twins, so this should not have been news. I don't know what the psychological issue is behind wanting the multiples, let alone one more child, if she had this fear of caretaking. But it's quite sad to see a mother who on some level, does not want to deal with her children. I had that mother, and I would not anyone else to be that position. At least the children will have each other when they get older and get away from Kate (and Jon).

timetogokon said...

Does anyone recall what episode it was called that had Joel lying on the laundry room when he had the flu?

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"Joelgate" is in the KON Hall of Shame. The episode is called "Cooking with the Twins".

Sylvia said...

I agree that Mady is bright, but she's going to need or already needs psychological help to help her cope with her jealousy issues. She craves attention be it positive or negative. Kate and Jon are exploiting these children to the max. They cannot be having a normal childhood with Kate constantly needing the children to be neat and clean all of the time. Has she never heard of "play clothes"? Having cameras poking into your face cannot be normal and what happens when the spotlight is off? Will these children be able to adjust to not being in the spotlight? Get with it, children need to get dirty to enjoy life. Now that they live in their "mansion" are the children isolated only able to play with each other? I also pity the puppies. Will she make them wash their paws when they come in from playing outside? If I were Jon, I'd get ready to run for the hills and leave this verbally abusive wife behind or have you become used to the "riches" too? I sincerely hope that the "cash cow" doesn't dry up or maybe it should so that you both have to get "real"jobs and forgo the "freebie" holidays and toys etc. Maybe your money would be better spent on getting some early intervention for some of the children who seem to have some speech development delays. What are you both going to do when all of the kids are in school? I guess Kate will spend time in her laundry room. Jon should consider how dangerous it is to give the children rides on tractors. Not a great idea having a child on your lap. I hope that some of your new found wealth is being put away for college or will you hope or expect that some college will give them all a "freebie"?
Wise up Jon and Kate, you are going to regret in a huge way what you are putting your kids through.
Sylvia

steeltowngirl said...

I love this website and everyone's comments.I decided to join in, finally! I cannot wait to see Kate Clean-Freak when she has to clean up the dog hair.I have a German Shepherd, and let me tell you, it is a constant battle.I can't imagine the hair from TWO dogs!!!! I just pray these two dogs don't end up at the pound... Also, these dogs are amazingly smart, but they need obedience training.Two powerful dogs+8 kids? OH MY WORD!! He he Sorry, couldn't help that...

Bells said...

Caught Oprah yesterday (personally I cannot stand her and her pimping of people like "Dr." Phil and keight show me how she's all about $$$ and corporations just like anyone else). But she had on all these dads who were raising kids alone. The one dad had NINE kids and was doing it by himself. The eldest kid was in college but the rest were younger. He gets up at 3 in the morning, makes dinner for the night, packs lunches, gets his kids up in two shifts, sends them to school THEN goes to work all day. Seeing someone like him just highlight how full of utter BS keight is with their brood. Not saying it's an easy job of rasing lots of kids but keight makes it ten times harder then it has to be. Number one being their greed and having a production crew in their kids faces since they were babies. Plus I think neither kate or jon have the maturity and common sense to handle that many kids and should have left their brood with their twins.

I saw a blip of one episode last week and it was showing behind the scenes footage. One was the choclate world trip and it showed kate having sh*& fit with all the production in the kitchen and how there was just TOO many people. It flashed to jen holding a kid and playing with them then kate goes off and jen looks at one of the sound guys with a "uh-oh" face. I firmly believed under that producer they edited kate to make her look BETTER then she actually was. I think enough time went by that they were running out of footage to paint her even remotely in a likeable, motherly light and this new production team could care less.

Sad State of Affairs said...

My mother was and is so like Katie Irene. She loved and loves babies and even toddlers, but after that she has no use for kids. I'm trying to remember when exactly it dawned on me and I think I was about 5. I know I had long braids that my dad would braid very tightly and since he worked a lot that was a time I enjoyed with him. But, like her, my dad was really not interested in us after we grew out of babyhood and so supported us and sheltered and fed us, but it was all too obvious they'd rather be doing something else with someone else.

I see that super clearly with Kon. The dismissive attitude, even mean-spirited name calling of some. Putting down a little kid, yeah, that really makes a parent mature. What is there to look up to with these awful parents? I don't get it.

I was about 12 when my oldest sister had a baby. From that time forward none of us left at home mattered at all. It was all about the new grandson. They would not show up at recitals, they would change appointments on us, anything to accommodate this kid. And now that child has turned out to be a very self-centered and obnoxious young man, surprise, surprise.

My mother was so into her looks that she often felt the need to put us down, like Kate did Mady, over things like crooked teeth or hair hanging in our eyes, etc.. I feel very badly for these kids, especially the boys. Remember the worst thing Collin could think to call his mother when he was mad at her "Mommy, you a boy". Do you think he realizes already that being a boy is a bad thing? He definitely realizes he's a 2nd class citizen.

Poor kids.

emma said...

about joel looking at the camera after he threw up.... think about it. there is a person holding that camera. if the camera was suspended in mid-air, he probably wouldn't look at it. truly, if YOU were standing there and not really doing anything (although he was sick)would you be more inclined to look at the floor or washing machine or at the living,breathing person standing in front of you?... thats right, you would look at the person. basically, i don't think that joel was looking at the camera for any reason that has to do with filming or show business. and besides, in that episode he is three and a half years old. a kid that age can only comprehend any request to "act" for the camera or even what the camera is doing to a certain degree.

jonandkatewho? said...

Oh yeah and another thing, lol...

I watched the repeat tonight where they took questions. They were asked if they had any trouble understanding what their kids were saying and Kate said no, they understood their kids when they spoke.

Next thing she's saying if they don't understand what the kids are saying, they just ask another kid or whatever.

Right, Kate. The woman contradicts herself every time she opens her mouth.

Techymum said...

I will not buy into the thoughts that Jon somehow "can't" get his way with his wife. Not for one minute. It is called court - if he truly wanted the show to stop, and there were contracts or whatever, he could get a good lawyer, off to court, and get them to stop. No siree, this guy doesn't want the gravy train to stop at all.

Get a clue said...

It's even easier than that. They signed the contract for season five only a couple of months ago. No one could force Jon to sign, he chose to sign.

ICExploitation said...

The Dad on the Oprah show with nine children had the most behaved and articulate kids! The three year old sat on his lap (she was whispering, but very behaved). The 5 year old was a darling as well. I love how she said her Dad made her laugh.

I taped the show because of Matt Logelin. I follow his blog and love how all the freebies he was sent he has donated to other people in need. The money has also gone to help other widowers as well.

Not everyone in the world is greedy.

Missy said...

What makes me even more crazy is that on the borders website is the KON books that are available and it has a pre-order for her "cookbook" and of course 8 faces coming out soon, all on the FRONT page. In no way is she genuine, this has got to stop!! I don't think she is an author by any means, and the person really writing it should step forward!!

kate is a cocky bitch said...

In regards to Jon wanting to be off the show, the season finale was obviously edited (I only saw the commercials, not the show) to capitalize on the sensational stories about him in the press recently and then TLC probably sped it up so viewers could see it even sooner. I do not think KON are going away anytime soon because they are such a big money-maker and apparently controversy only makes them more popular. I suppose it's a sad state of affairs when our society considers this type of effluent entertaining. All I can do is shake my head, turn off my TV and hope that one day The Queen-B will grow a heart.

OliveBranch said...

Against my better judgment, I watched a bit of the question and answer session which was on Monday night. The Gosselins insisted that their kids don't have to be filmed if they don't want to. Yeah, they don't have to be on camera, but their family and private lives will still be discussed in the public eye. These kids are young, and they have NO IDEA that being filmed means millions of people watching them and scrutinizing their every move. How could they really have any concept of what filiming is doing to their lives beyond the walls of their house and in the future? The only people that can protect them from that is their parents. I guess we see how well that's going....

Robin said...

Joelgate: I've seen this episode more than once and it bothers me that Kon calls what the children have "the flu." The flu is a serious respiratory illness which has nothing to do with a person's stomach. When a child is barfing their guts out, they don't have "the flu." I realize that many, many people call it that and that it's a common mistake, but a *nurse* on *The Learning Channel* should know better and should take the opportunity to use the correct terminology.

Kate's education and how it relates to her parenting or "culturing" her children: To me, this is irrelevant. She was a nurse and has a nurses education. She is no longer practicing as a nurse. Neither of those things have anything to do with anything - with her ability to parent, to "culture" her children. I was an accountant and have an accountant's education and am no longer practicing as an accountant because I'm a SAHM. But I'm more than capable of being a good parent and of taking my children to museums and plays and concerts and on educational vacations and reading to them, even though I'm not "using my education" anymore. And if I didn't have an education, I would still be capable of those things. Kate's lack of good parenting has nothing to do with her education and everything to do with the type of person she is in general. Some of the best parents I know, who provide their children with the neatest cultural opportunities, have no higher education.

3angelsmom said...

Sylvia said:
I agree that Mady is bright, but she's going to need or already needs psychological help to help her cope with her jealousy issues. She craves attention be it positive or negative.
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I don't believe it is jealousy or attention-craving behavior in the sense that she wants to be in the spotlight. Rather, I sincerely believe Kate's control issues and the constantly being filmed lead to immense frustration for Mady. Her acting out, if done on camera, embarrasses Kate and gives Mady a tiny bit of control over her world. My heart breaks for her.

I agree with you that Kate needs to become acquainted with *play clothes*.

marylou said...

The discussion of how much they are making from shooting the show prompted me to go to TLC's web site and see how many episodes were shot. I was really surprised to see - Season 1 - 8 episodes, Season 2 - 9 episodes, Season 3 - 31 episodes, and Season 4 - 40 episodes. Wow - quite a ramp up.

Sue said...

"Heidi said...
I agree with what another poster said about Kate`s hair. It is not the style that is annoying, it is the execution of it."

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Imagine what it looks like, wet!

my9cats said...

aggiemom0912 said...
they have to pay taxes on the income received from church visits...this is considered INCOME. I have been a church treasurer, and anyone doing work over $400 received a 1099 at the end of the year...they need to stop taking money from churches, instead, they need to give it!

4/14/2009 6:15 AM

I agree with the 1099 for speaking fees but what about the love offerings? Does the church count the money before handing it to KON and then send a 1099 for that?
Just curious...

NotJon'sKate said...

I wonder where is that woman that Jon married? In their honeymoon home movies...she is ditzy, cute, and totally in love with him! Now she's more interested in playing with her Iphone than with her family!

Ms.Peach said...

aggiemom0912 said...
they have to pay taxes on the income received from church visits...this is considered INCOME. I have been a church treasurer, and anyone doing work over $400 received a 1099 at the end of the year...they need to stop taking money from churches, instead, they need to give it!

I agree. However, the love offerings were cash. Unless the IRS goes after them, they pocketed that money and probably did not report it. They're not a charity so they'd have to pay taxes on it, but if it's in cash, how could the IRS ever find out? I hope they get the %#@* audited out of them. Remember, Kate is the daughter of a preacher and knows how churches operate.

HW said...

Anybody receive Ladies Home Journal?
My newest issue just arrived and guess who's on the cover?
I've already cancelled my subscription.
Interesting points:
Jon brags about how Kate "does not look like a mom of eight" yet fails to give credit to the free tummy tuck for which she left her children for a number of days.
Also, they talk about how the show allows them to stay home together...
Enough said.

To Jon said...

"There must be 50 ways to leave your lover".

Robin said...

"They're not a charity so they'd have to pay taxes on it, but if it's in cash, how could the IRS ever find out?"

"Love offerings" are probably considered gifts to the Gosselins, so they are not taxable income to them. Unless they're a registered charity, the amount that people are dropping in the love offering jar is not tax deductible to the donor. Thus the income is not taxable to the recipient. It would be no different than if you gave your sister $25 to help pay her phone bill.

criticalthinker said...

I just wanted to point out something that many posters have commented on in the past. It is often mentioned that the tups seem to be behind other kids their age developmentally, and often this is attributed to their premature births. There is a tool used in the world of pediatrics known as the Denver Developmental Scale, and it is used to assess a child's gross motor skills, fine motor skills, and other developmental milestones. I had to administer this test several times during my Pediatrics rotation in nursing school. Early on, you do take prematurity into account when calculating a child's "actual age" and assessing them, but by age 4, prematurity is no longer a consideration. So, the Gosselin children's verbal and social inadequecies can be attributed to a lot of other factors, but at their age, prematurity is no longer one of them.

former church bookkeeper said...

I agree with the 1099 for speaking fees but what about the love offerings? Does the church count the money before handing it to KON and then send a 1099 for that?
Just curious...

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I guess it depends on the church's accounting practices. When I was the bookkeeper at our church, when love offerings were taken, we counted the cash (and checks if any), then gave the performer, speaker, guest (whomever) a check for the amount collected. At year end, the recipient of the love offering received a 1099.

my 9 cats said:

I am sure there are churches that just empty the baskets and hand over the money to the reipient; however, from what I understand, this is improper and could not only get the recipient in trouble with the IRS, but also the church.

Also, if the IRS wanted to go after J & K for love offerings received but not accounted for in their income tax earnings, the IRS can "guesstimate" and tax this amount in addition to tacking on interest and penalties...

realitybites said...

Jon brags about how Kate "does not look like a mom of eight"

I really dislike this comment. What does a mother of 'eight children' look like? Does Michelle Duggar LOOK like a mom of 18 children? What exactly about Kate Gosselin implies that she 'does not look like a mom of eight'?

Charlotte said...

realitybites said...

Jon brags about how Kate "does not look like a mom of eight"
What exactly about Kate Gosselin implies that she 'does not look like a mom of eight'?
OHH OHH can I answer that one please?
Mothers of eight do not wear miniskirts and platform wedges (hooker shoes, anyone) while they are at CHURCH on stage speaking.

I'm hoping she wears underwear, or we'll be hearing about Kate having a "sharon stone" moment while crossing her slender orange legs.

aggiemom0912 said...

these people must report all 'love offerings' as misc. income...which is taxed as self-employment...with the great amount they are taking in, i am quite confident the IRS is taking an interest in their accounting methods...as far as the church goes, churches walk a fine line in regards to their tax-exempt status...so, in this instance of this 'commercial' booking, plus the speaking fee, you can bet that all churches involved are crossing all the t's and dotting the 'i's!! what a mess. i cannot fathom any church asking her to come and speak--their tv show speaks volumes as to where their priorities are--it is a disgrace. she should be ashamed.

aggiemom0912 said...

oops! meant to say commercial booking and love offerings....

Shari said...

I would agree that Kate does not look like a mom of eight, but it certainly isn't anything to brag about and it has nothing to do with her clothes or even that hideous hair.

I would imagine a mother of eight would look the same as a mother of any amount of children. She smiles and realizes how blessed she is and although might drop into bed exhausted at night, looks forward to spending the next day with her family and understands the awesome responsibility that comes with God entrusting those little souls to our care.

So, no, Kate does NOT look like a mother, because she has no idea of the concept of mothering. How sad for all of them.

Anonymomma said...

Didin't Jon say, during the last Utah trip interview that they are a corporation now?

So how does that factor into love offerings and the IRS? A charity would have to pay taxes right? Wouldn't a corporation?

shmedelle said...

triplemama said...
This may be old news but I just caught the shopping at Gymboree episode. Kate says that Cara and Mady are at the age where they flat out refuse to wear things they don't like and called it "obnoxious". I have identical multiples and have never dressed them the same. Just don't see the point, other than to parade the kids around screaming 'look at the multiples'
.........

Yes, I recall seeing the 'home movie', from when the twins were babies and in a stroller at a 4th of July parade. Their stroller was decorated with signs that read "The Gosselin Twins". Clearly, she was looking for attention even then. The stroller signs were not made in a hurry. Glitter was involved!
I thought, geez, who needs attention? It woulod have been like me tapeing a sign on the back of my kid for the Easter Egg Hunt, that read, "Isn't she the cutest"!

Kate Gosselin reminds me of Kathie Lee Giffard, Star Jones, etc... as if the whole wolrd is enamored with them. Barf!

pinkdiamond611 said...

Jon states in the new LHJ article that Kate looks great for a Mom of 8. A new poster posts that she observed Kate in a secret location and Kate is so fit and healthy with great skin. What a coincidence. Is this the new angle of the PR team, selling Kate as a fit and styling Mom who also is into the environment and pets. ;-)

KiSSy said...

Pink Diamond...you are so right on.

This could be a very clever way to introduce her as a talk show host. She'll be poised to cover everything from health and fitness to fashion to bargain hunting and going green.

Her position is no longer "How to be a mom of 8 and stay sane", but "How to be a hip, happening, trendy mom".

I'm betting there will be a magazine too. Do we really want Kate to be the Oprah for Moms?

Ms.Peach said...

It's Tax Day and she's at a church today in California. How ironic! Hope someone will post about it if they attended. This is the only one this spring, although she's still hitting those Christian Women's shows. By the posts I've been reading about her church appearances, her story is getting stale and people don't want to pay money to hear it anymore. Her career as a Christian inspirational speaker has peaked and gone. But wait; now she's an "author". That is a joke. Someone else writes, edits the material and she simply puts her name on it. This too will pass.

anotherPAmom said...

This is getting near the end of the week and lots of comments on here but I did want to post this- sorry if someone has mentioned it here earlier-

THE PENNSYLVANIA WOMEN'S SHOW (first weekend of May, Harrisburg PA ) has announced Jon and Kate as a "celebrity appearance" on Saturday May 2nd.

"Saturday, May 2—Jon and Kate Gosselin

Hometown Pennsylvania celebrities and stars of their own hit TV show, Jon and Kate Gosselin will appear on the Style Stage on Saturday, May 2 at noon to talk about life raising sextuplets and twins."
Info can be found by googling "pawomensshow".
Saw this on the Women's show official site , so no word on if they know that Kate only has been showing up at these appearances. It seems that there are quite a few PA residents that post here, so figured they might be interested in seeing what this appearance is all about. (PS Andrew Dan Jumbo, carpenter from While you were out, who I adore, is appearing on Sunday. . .)

AnotherPAmom said...

Oops, don't know if I typed that last bit of information correctly! Here is the link to the PA women's show page that talks about appearances-

http://www.pawomensshow.com/About-the-Show.aspx

Missy said...

Curious, I checked out the LHJ site, and was reading the KON article, I am shocked they actually wrote this,

"In addition to the fortune they've made, Kate has found success as an author. "

Almost like they enjoy being known as rich now, just makes me sick she is never home and not even living up to what she did in the past. PLease, what can we do to make this stop??

DevilsAvocado said...

With all the work that Kate has put into her appearance, how long until someone like A-rod or JT takes notice and we see enquirer photos from St. Lucia, Kate frolicking in the surf.

I just have to ask one question though, how long do you think it's been since Jon and Kate, well, ahem, you know... Because if it's been more than a month, that's a key indicator of where this marriage is going, right to splitsville. We call that "creeping separateness" and given the way they've divested themselves of shared pursuits, it's no surprise. Suffer the little children.

totallystupid said...

Jon's comment is an insult to women. He's implying that mother's get fat after having a bunch of kids.

Women don't get fat from having children. They get fat because they get caught up in being a mother.

Let's face it many women put their own needs on hold when raising children.

Grow up Jon.

Cindermommy said...

There is a post about Kate's hair on dlisted.com today. In the comments is a large discussion about the Gosselins, and most posts are negative (though there are a few HATERRRRS comments.)

The title of the post is "What the h--l kind of GD hair is this?"

Unfortunately, that also means she has become fodder for celebrity gossip sites. So I am sure she took it as a compliment. Any publicity is good publicity...

2badsosad said...

Curious, I checked out the LHJ site, and was reading the KON article, I am shocked they actually wrote this,

"In addition to the fortune they've made, Kate has found success as an author. "

The fortune they've made? The fortune they made by way of EXPLOITING their children!!!!!

mommynMO said...

Wasn't sure where to put this, but this is hilarious... She looks so phony!

http://www.dlisted.com/node/31612#comments

Dillow said...

Dear TotallyStupid, I don't think Jon was outright calling mothers fat in any way. I feel badly that you're taking that comment that way. I really wouldn't take anything that Jon says personally.

I also don't think it's fair to assume on your part that mothers get fat from being mothers and putting their needs first. It is quite possible to have children and still take care of yourself and ensure that you're at a healthy weight. Lots of moms do it. I like to think I do it. And I don't think I'm in any way neglecting my children because I (try to) exercise and eat right.

Tami said...

Wow...I have never read so many bitter posts. Most of the comments on here are downright mean.
*******
The lecture contained here should be saved for the Gosselins. They are the ones who need it badly.

K8TERH8TER said...

OMG! I just read that post about Kate on DListed. It IS hilarious! But you're right....everyone who commented REALLY DESPISES HER!! I see she has new caps on her teeth. (Apparently having them lightened at the dentist last season wasn't good enough) I also noticed the new sparkly rings on her fingers. I'm assuming she received a new, BIGGER diamond ring when she renewed her vows in Hawaii, cuz' that certainly doesn't look like a ring Jon could afford prior to their kids making them rich. The fake smile glued on her face at the book signing makes me want to puke. I can't wait until her 15 minutes are up, and she's forced to go back to playing the role of mom again. And..after the show ends, I bet the only time we'll ever see those kids back on TV will be in their teen years, when one of them..probably Mady...gets in trouble with the law and her pouty face is plastered all over the news programs! I'm embarrassed for Jon.

ICExploitation said...

You should be more concerned with the children reading all of the horrible comments you write about their parents.Shouldn't the PARENTS of these children be concerned about what THEY put out in the MEDIA?

If they were really "loving" parents behind "closed doors" why would they choose to show the opposite?

kateisblahblah said...

I love the fact that she has a pile of sharpies!! She has so many fans the sharpies may run dry! What a loser!!

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