Trip to the Vet, March 9

The Gosselin German Shepherd puppies, Nala and Shooka, are growing rapidly. Though they hardly resemble puppies anymore, they're still as curious as can be! But too much curiosity causes an unexpected visit to the vet for one of them.

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DirtyDisher said...

Oh boy, more poop for Kate. She loves the poopy!

4thekids said...

*sighs* I am SO not looking forward to what this episode is supposed to be about. But who wants to bet that we are subtly introduced to brand new furniture throughout the entire house?!?

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I noted in the last show that they were much larger and they travel with the family in the van. I wonder where they sit in the van being it is so full. I wonder if they use seat belts for them.

Jenna L (GWOP's Swedish Babe) said...

Hey, at least there will be puppies in this episode! I bet I could write a good suspenseful promo-summary for this one. "Will the puppies be able to distract viewers from Kate and Jon's marital problems and horrible attitudes? Watch and find out!"

Gag! I peeked on a pro-KON forum, and you wouldn't believe how the sheeple are moaning in ecstasy over "Kate's sweet and sensitive side". Apparently taking a dog to the vet makes you a hero for animal rights everywhere. Several people have managed to connect "Taking dog to vet" with "Kate is obviously a kind, caring parent". What?

This show is so horribly un-watcheable now. Why is this entertainment, anyway? I have a more exciting life than Kate and nobody's lining up to watch me for a few hours every day. Your average hobo is probably more entertaining on a daily basis. The kids make me feel sad and sorry, and Kate makes me grind my teeth. I think I'll go for a nice nature walk while this episode is on - who's with me?

Anyway, I can't wait to see what happens with the pups. I feel scared for them, living with such an impatient woman. If KON fails to raise these gorgeous pups (and I'm no dog expert, but aren't GS dogs a bit more difficult to control than the average 'family' dog?) they could become very dangerous...and the dogs will be the ones to suffer.

I wonder if Kate would have the patience to hand-deliver and hand-raise seven kittens? Luckily for the mama cat, I took a stray in three days ago and helped her deliver her sweet little litter. She passed away soon after, but all seven kittens are alive and well. I'm currently watching them 24/7 and spending way too much money on special kitten substitute 'milk' and way too much time holding eyedroppers into tiny mouths.

If Kate thinks mud is icky, I wonder how she'd handle separating a placenta and removing the mucus layer from a tiny kitten's mouth and nose with bare hands! Three of my towels are now covered with birthing fluids. I can almost hear Kate's shrieky voice when I look at them.

P.S. - where could I find a picture of the puppies? I refuse to watch the show but I can't resist cute animals. German Shepherd pups must be brain-numbingly adorable.

pinkdiamond611 said...

If you watch TLC they show a preview. The puppy swallows one of the little stuffed toys. Probably because the puppy is left alone in the basement with the kids who are always alone in the basement. Anyways they show footage of one of the boys with said toy in hand before the incident.

RealMom said...

Exactly what they want you to see. Kate never had a sweet and sensitive side, but as producers of their own show, they need to put the message out that Kate is really nice and sweet. Look, see her cuddle the sick puppy!!How better to market her in the future because they know she has a bad rap and they need to fix it. Oh to be a fly on the wall when they meet to discuss the planning of their weekly staged "adventures." Just what I want in the small vet office I go to, a family of 10 lunatics and their own camera crew.

Hambone said...

I'm convinced now that those pro-Kon blogs are set-up and run by TLC. Probably paid workers who sit and dream up this cockamamy stuff about how great Kate is. I honest to God had nicer people than Kate in my emotionally disturbed high school class I taught for 16 years!

RealMom said...

I see they are showing Jon and Cara going on the ski trip, not Mady. I think either she removed herself from the attention or they (as producers) knew how bad she was starting to look. Maybe they are reading all the negative stuff out there about her or maybe they have focus groups who report back to them. It could be they don't want the negative image to ruin their future chances or, let's hope, they are finally learning to be responsible, caring parents.

organizedblogroll said...

Kate Irene is even picking at her earring in the promo. S T O P IT!

SeriouslySerious said...

PinkDiamonds wrote:
"If you watch TLC they show a preview. The puppy swallows one of the little stuffed toys. Probably because the puppy is left alone in the basement with the kids who are always alone in the basement. Anyways they show footage of one of the boys with said toy in hand before the incident."

I bet it is poor 'ole Joel who is the one left 'holding the bag'...horse *sigh*

jonandkatewho? said...

One day Kate will pull her ear clean off. I won't be able to help laughing when she does.

But about the episode... if she or Jon were responsible pet owners, they would watch those pups better. I'll bet one of those kids fed that dog the toy. They are not the most calm children in the world, that's for sure. I still can't figure out why they haven't stopped behaving like a bunch of wild animals, which is not entertaining to me at all.

Merrilee said...

RealMom said...
I see they are showing Jon and Cara going on the ski trip, not Mady. I think either she removed herself from the attention or they (as producers) knew how bad she was starting to look.
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Mady prides herself on not liking things that Jon and Cara like, such as skiing, ice skating, etc.

She is just like Kate, who also prides herself on not being "naturish."

Level Head said...

I wonder if they feed the plastic horse (or whatever it is) to the puppy on purpose, just so they can have an episode? (just joking, but wouldn't put it past them).

More likely, the dogs, like the children, weren't supervised at all and given the state of their house and how everything is usually lying around all over the place, it was an accident. Convenient though, a "normal" episode to counteract all those freebee trip/activity episodes everyone was getting so worked up about.

So done. So over. Clock is ticking.

Manda said...

I've heard a lot of people saying that Jon and Kate are the producing the show now. Is this true? What happened to Jen? Where did you hear this?

jon and kate are cons said...

Puppies chew everything! But of course those puppies are not supervised just like the kids. Having two puppies is like having two more kids.

I'm sure that Kate will say that the puppy swallowed the toy when she was out of town. I wouldn't doubt if one of those kids gave the puppy the toy on purpose. I feel sorry for those puppies.

Anonymous said...

In reference to what RealMom said on3/08/09:

I grew up a fraternal twin, like Cara and Mady. I'm male and I have a twin brother. We constantly chose opposing likes to promote our own identity. This was healthy as people need to have individuality. Unfortunately, parents will often treat the children as Esau and Jacob for that reason. They don't realize that the children are searching for their own individuality and start treating the children as complete opposites. The kids will then begin to choose sides with one parent during conflicts which is very unhealthy. Twins/multiples should not be looked at as complete opposites or identicals, but as individuals.

Deb said...

Well well, it didn't take long for KON to ruin their dogs, just like they ruin their kids, friend's lives and family relationships.

We had a dear Sheltie dog who was the light of our lives. We took strict precautions to keep all small items from him, but when he was seven years old, we fostered a two week old baby.

A small baby sock fell out of the hamper and Rusty (our Sheltie) quickly snapped it up and chewed it while we weren't looking. A few hours later, he fell at my foot, huffing and puffing, in extreme pain.

We got him to the doctor too late, he died in the car on the way to the hospital. The doctor said his stomach twisted.....all because of a tiny sock.

I was very cautious about having ANYTHING on the floor, and I am studiously clean and tidy, but it still happened. How can they ensure that eight kids will keep things off the floor? Especially when they keep the pups in the same basement with the children?

Someone, please take these dogs from the home...we can't remove the kids, but the dogs deserve a good life!

JackfromNY said...

20 bucks says most of this episode will focus on something else, like getting new furniture and the whole puppy swallows a toy bit is just thrown in there for the previews.

shell said...

I've heard a lot of people saying that Jon and Kate are the producing the show now. Is this true? What happened to Jen? Where did you hear this?

3/08/2009 8:46 PM

I asked the same question about Jen in an earlier post also someone posted in the puppy post about one of the boys wanting to name the dog scott and they hoped Scott was at home watching.
What happened to him, is he gone too becuase the kids loved him

tallblonde said...

**Happy Happy Joy Joy**
Season Finale...

Is it just me, or do the previews for "Table for 12" look like a family doing regular family things?

**Fingers crossed** !!! I'm feelin' "excitedish" ;)

Heidi said...

I hope Kate doesnt pass on her ear mite infection to the dogs..ROFL

Not watching. There is nothing worth watching on tv tonite so I think I will crack open the new Odd Thomas book. Yeah, that sounds much better.

I was always a cat person until I got married and had children. In over 20 yrs as a family we have had 4 dogs. They were all dogs that were not wanted by others for one reason or another. Three have passed on and we have one chihuahua now.
We loved every single animal like it was one of our children. Nicknames, hugs, kisses, take them out to play, special treats, yearly check ups, and lots of love.
Kate cannot do those things with her human children what makes you think she will do it for her furbabies!
I hope the *rumor* is true and they do not own those dogs anymore.
I hope before they are finally gone, that the male dog lifts it`s leg on Kate`s new furniture!!

Scruffy's Mom said...

I've already started seeing the dog food and dog treat commercials ... urgh!

ChinaMomof4 said...

RealMom said
I see they are showing Jon and Cara going on the ski trip, not Mady. I think either she removed herself from the attention or they (as producers) knew how bad she was starting to look. Maybe they are reading all the negative stuff out there about her or maybe they have focus groups who report back to them. It could be they don't want the negative image to ruin their future chances or, let's hope, they are finally learning to be responsible, caring parents.

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Or maybe Mady just doesn't like to ski.

Ms.Peach said...

So I guess we are to assume that the cameras just happen to be there on the VERY DAY one of the puppies swallows a toy. Sounds fishy to me. I mean, this is a real emergency, and they have a crew ready to film at a vet's office? I would hope it hasn't come to having a poor animal hurt to film an episode.

48andFab said...

On the previews it shows one of the tups holding a puppy down and kissing it's head. Cute for the cameras but some dogs don't like to be restricted in that way and could bite as a panic response.

Also, did anyone see the Oprah previews for today? The whole clan will be on again, for a "behind the scenes look" at filming.

honeyhush said...

No one watches the kids, so why would they watch the dogs? They really have no business getting dogs. Kate most certainly doesn't have the patience for one dog, let alone two! Terrible!

Its A Good Thing said...

I wont be watching, I hate taking my own dogs to the vet why would I want to watch someone else's go? Especially when the whole things could have easily been prevented.

I haven't watched in 4 weeks and wont start now!

Serena said...

So I guess we are to assume that the cameras just happen to be there on the VERY DAY one of the puppies swallows a toy. Sounds fishy to me.

As often as the cameras are there -- more often than not -- I think it would be more surprising if this weren't caught on film. The crew probably has semi-permanent quarters over the garage... chances are they'll be able to catch pretty much anything that goes on in that household.

Moons in Leo said...

No matter how you look at it, this episode is deplorable.

Either someone fed the dog the toy or the camera crew is there way more than Kon acknowledges.

Anonymous said...

Puppies will be puppies and they like to chew and swallow things. Nothing unusual about that, but why don't they just wait for it to pass so to say... I adopted a very high maintenance dog when he was 3 years old and the stuff that dog has put in his stomach would turn your hair gray... Ate a candy bowl full of chocolate candy... lived, my son had habit of leaving food in his room, 1/2 box of donuts (around 5 times), chips, cheese curls, and the most famous was he ate my pantyhose. $450.00 emergency overnight vet stay and the pantyhose returned to me in a Ziplock bag w/nary a run in them. He will turn 10 this year and last week, got in the garbage and ate what was left of a bag of pretzels, leftover casserole and whatever else was there. Now this was a garbage bag in a wastebasket, with the lid on. So, puppies, dogs will eat anything they can at any stage, age of their lives.

Laurie said...

Puppies will be puppies and dogs will be dogs...they love to chew on anything and everything. We lost our beloved Bullie (old age) last May and he was a thief at times. I can't even count the number of times we had to do the "hand sweep" in the mouth to get something he'd picked up. We are now ready to get another Bullie. My husband and I were just discussing how we have to "baby proof" the house before we get the puppy because in the time that he's been gone we've gotten very lax about leaving stuff laying around. Kon doesn't watch the kids - what makes anyone think she'd watch the puppies or even tell the kids to keep things picked up so the puppies didn't get them.

Pamela Jaye said...

if Kate thinks mud is icky, hw did she get thru nursing school? what kind of nurse is she, btw? RN, LPN, somethng else. Nursing is generally not for the faint of heart. what happened here?

Pamela Jaye said...

>Oh to be a fly on the wall when they meet to discuss the planning of their weekly staged "adventures."

aha! this explains the "hard work" of "production meetings"!
not only do they have to come up with a way to make Kate appear sweet, they know that they have to cause *someone* has been reading the articles, blogs, and feedback to both.
Therefore, more damage control and spin (next year Kate will be running for office* - She can run a family of 10 on next to nothing: she can fix out econony!)

*kidding

really if they don't control the damage, people stop watching and the show gets canceled...
this ep sounds more boring than Disneyland. I want to see more of the new house. (shoot me - i like houses) and i want to know: why no prouction lighting in the new house?

also - Scott's gone? did someone say that?

Pamela Jaye said...

Anonymous male fraternal twin,
that was interesting. thanks for sharing

duggarfan said...

Yes, Scott's gone. He is over on the Duggars show now (they showed him a few episodes back--Mama Duggar said how lovely he is and his family and that they were so happy to have him filming their Xmas episode(they go in a parade and Scott's family joins) so that they could all share in the glorious time of year together. Good for him-now he can wear whatever shoes he darn well pleases.
No clue what happened to producer Jen. She's probably sitting at a Starbucks somewhere with Beth, Aunt Jodi, and nanny Jenny...

Pamela Jaye said...

as the dogs grow, if they are not trained, is it safe to leave them alone with small children? I don't know a lot about German Shephards, but my friend's used to take her for a walk.

I'll be watching Chuck, The Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother. I might get to Kate before House. Though House is generally more amusing when he trats people like crap (and also he's fictional, and ostensibly there's a mystery). We'll see. Monday nights are crowded lately (and yet, more and more lately, I find myself watching this trainwreck. Is it possible that, because drama is more interesting than happiness, they are making sure we see the "drama"? I think I've been watching for a while to see how obnoxious Kate will be this week.
Still it's sad when I see an old ep, and she used to seem to love those kids (at leas when they were in cribs)

overwithKON said...

not watching either, cant! The witch is tooooo much for me to handle now! LOL! But I cant wait for the recrap! =-)

highondegrassi said...

Is Scott gone? Maybe I heard that...isn't he with the Duggar's now? I just lurve me some Jim Bob Duggar!! Good for Scott if it's true. He probably couldn't stand to be part of the train wreck anymore!

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Is this an old show that they took Mady out or a new show with a new trip? I think recently Jon took one of the twins to a ski trip and left Mady at home as she did not enjoy the trip last time as the other one did.

It Happened said...

Im all for blaming Kate for this nastiness, and I do blame her but I don't think that producer Jen is completely innocent. She witnessed it and if she didn't contribute to Kate's bad behavior she did nothing to help it. I know that Kate needs to take responsibility for her actions but Jen could have shown her being a tad nicer.

I probably wont watch tonight but I am looking forward to the recap.

itcouldhappen said...

Serena said...
As often as the cameras are there -- more often than not -- I think it would be more surprising if this weren't caught on film.

I'm hoping we're only going to see the vet visit after the dog's surgery. If we see a dog eating something that could potentially harm him and the cameraman just stands there and films it, you can bet PETA will be up in arms about it. I'm not sure TLC is that stupid. Sadly the animal rights movement is stronger than the kids' rights movement.

didew said...

I have a tip for those of you who have dogs that tend to chew and/or eat things they shouldn't. Regular walks. It uses their natural instints (traveling with the pack) and they tend to get less bored. I didn't think when I got my English Bulldog a year ago I'd have to walk her because, well, frankly, bulldogs tend to be lazy. Our first few months she tried, or did, eat some interesting things. From reading the posts here I realize how lucky we were that she never needed surgery. If we can't walk for awhile(Michigan winters can be brutal) I notice that she sniffs around more, and "mouths" things she shouldn't. Don't get me wrong, its no substitute for supervising your dog and picking things up, but I have found it to be a very useful tool.
Laurie, so sorry about your lose. I know from having a bullie they are pure joy. Good luck on finding the next member of your family.

CALadyLib said...

< No clue what happened to producer Jen. She's probably sitting at a Starbucks somewhere with Beth, Aunt Jodi, and nanny Jenny...>

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I am also wondering about this "producer" thing. The credits still list "Figure 8 Productions" and if you go to their website, you will see Jen there. Apparently, she still works for them, just not on this show. But where did we get the idea that KON is now producing?

swissmiss said...

I believe one of the reasons for getting a huge house was that it would also have a couple rooms for the film crew since they are there several days a week. I believe they have an apartment in the garage or something.

When the family went to Utah about a year ago, one twin did extremely well. I read that she and Jon go skiing in Penn. twice a week.

I thought I read that Kate went to a two or three-year training training at a hospital in Penn. I don't think that is the same as an R.N., is it? I'm sure at least she does not have a B.S.

DetroitBasketball said...

I am also wondering about this "producer" thing. The credits still list "Figure 8 Productions" and if you go to their website, you will see Jen there. Apparently, she still works for them, just not on this show. But where did we get the idea that KON is now producing?

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I think it was from someone reporting from Jon's talk at Penn State they he and Kate were now producers, but for some reason I took that to mean they were producers starting with season 5, meaning they wouldn't currently be producers. I don't remember if that was clearly stated,or if I just assumed that was the case since they were probably already shooting for season 5 when Jon was doing the talk.

DeeB said...

In Jon's 'famous' Utah interview, he stated that they have already signed on for season 5 and that he and Kate will be doing some producing in season 5. My guess is that they will edit Kate's hatefulness (his as well) the way they have done in the re-runs.

konspiracytheory said...

I was in a doctor's waiting room this afternoon when I heard snippets from a conversation going on next to me b/w a woman and her mother-in-law. What caught my attention was when the duaghter-in-law said "she treats him in such a humiliating way!". I start thinking, wouldn't it be funny if they were talking about KON? Sure enough...

The good news is that while they both sounded like casual viewers (neither sheeple nor GWOPers), even they knew something was up ("I heard that even though she pretends it's just the two of them they actually have tons of paid help", etc.).

Tick-Tock, KON...

Jenna L. (GWOP's Swedish Babe) said...

Sixxlet:

The mama cat looked pretty roughed up, but I don't know what happened. She had sparse patches of fur, a broken tail, and a bad limp. She was still very affectionate with me so I don't think she was abused by an owner, thankfully. After giving birth she was meowing at me pitifully and licking her bad leg. I started petting her and she began purring. I thought she fell asleep and tended to the kittens, and the next time I checked, she was dead. The seven-kitten birthing might have just been too much for her. I'm no vet so I can't say for sure. Good news though: The kits now have an adopted-mama - a family friend's cat who gave birth 4 weeks ago, who still has milk, and doesn't seem to mind seven strangers nursing from her. Her other kits are old enough to not care about being left alone for a few hours. I'm assuming that real cat's milk is much healthier than even the best vet-approved 'substitute' I've bought.

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I've been reading all these comments from those concerned about the dogs and it's making me so worried. I've never owned dogs, and I guess I haven't thought of all the horrible possibilities. I forgot dogs' tendency to eat objects they find. Cats don't eat socks and toys - as long as you keep them away from chewing plastic bags, poisonous household plants, and strings, they're fine. But if dogs are prone to eating things like toys and socks (Deb, I read your comment - I'm so sorry about your poor doggie!) then what the heck are they doing in a huge house with eight kids? KON is not going to be able to supervise 24/7, and even with a supposedly-OCD Kate around, surely they can't keep the kids from dropping dangerously dog-edible things on the floors during play-time.

What baffles me is how they got TWO puppies. Isn't one enough? Animals are not cute little toys, they are BIG responsibilites, especially dependent and potentially dangerous ones like dogs.

Also, German Shepherds are pretty frickin' big! My friend has an overly affectionate half-German Shepherd - smaller than your average GS, due to whichever mutt his mama was - who manages to innocently knock me over all the time while trying to play. Does KON not see the danger of big dogs + small children?

Again...when you're thinking about bringing a big animal into a home with small children...WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU GET *TWO*?

I saw the preview where one Gosselin child is affectionately holding a pup down to kiss it. That scared me. Even the nicest animals can snap if you restrain them. They react on instinct, and being restrained, grabbed, and held down is a big threat to any creature. Even a gentle, scaredy-cat DEER will beat the crap out of you if you manage to grab one.

I think all dog owners must have a license of competency and meet certain standards before being allowed to bring a pup home.

catcat said...

Kate just said on Oprah that all the filming crew was new-ish and that they are seeing lots of turnover and new crew people all the time. The only person who remains on site from the very beginning is the guy who holds the boom mike.

So, I guess that claries that Scott is, indeed, gone.

Laurie said...

Thank you DIDEW. Our Bullie was 10which is a good old age for them. He was our 3d Bullie. They are a loving breed and we're looking forward to our next baby.

SandyW said...

Jenna L.

What baffles me is how they got TWO puppies. Isn't one enough?

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One has never been enough for Kate -- she doesn't do singles.

I bet she will figure out a way to get multiples for grandchildren.

Sixxlet said...

swissmiss
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I thought I read that Kate went to a two or three-year training training at a hospital in Penn. I don't think that is the same as an R.N., is it? I'm sure at least she does not have a B.S.

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Yes, you become an RN after attending a two or three year training hospital. You can be an RN without having a Bachelor's Degree. If you are an RN and you have the Bachelor's, then you have a BSN. Hope this clears it up a bit.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

So when you say "bullie" are you making reference to a bull dog? We have one, it is our 5th one. Great dogs.

letthechildrengo said...

One has never been enough for Kate -- she doesn't do singles.
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That cracked me up. what is next? kate does a reverse plural marriage and takes on more husbands because Yawn can only handle a small fraction of the abuse she has to hand out?

DityDisher said...

Kate had Jon Boy tell us they got TWO puppies so they could take care of each other. Which makes perfect sense. Honestly, I'm exhausted from explaining this. You people should just listen to Kate in the first place, she knows everything.

NJ Mom said...

I was around German Shephards growing up and they were very loveable dogs and posed no threat to us!
Of course each dog has their own temperment but a lot has to be said for how these dogs are treated as they are being raised.

My parents instilled a love of animals in all 4 of us and they literally took in strays that other people had abandoned - including full grown German Shephards.

I think its great for children to have at least one pet of some kind to grow up with. I am shocked that these children were allowed to get these puppies in the first place.

Kate strikes me as the type of person who has no use for you unless she can use you - human or animal. Poor puppies are being used too!

Thank goodness the puppies have the children to love them.

Sugarpop said...

There are different programs to be able to become a nurse - currently they are mostly 2 year Associate's Degree programs and 4 year Bachelor's Degree programs but regardless of which degree you get you take the same board exam. There used to be places that offered what they called "diploma programs" and you didn't end up with an ADN or BSN but you could get your RN license.

It's true that you sometimes have to deal with some gross stuff as a nurse, but there are a lot of nursing jobs where you don't have to deal with as much of the yucky stuff.

I would like to think that Kate became a nurse so she could help people, but unfortunately from what I've seen of her it was probably for very different reasons!

JJ28 said...

Is there going to be any mention of the Gosslings on Oprah today? Kate was SO fake! And she was talking about some new rules in the new house, like no cameras in the bedrooms for privacy since the kids are older. And apparently they don't film on Sundays, because that's when they go to church.

SaNdY said...

Jenna L. said:

I think all dog owners must have a license of competency and meet certain standards before being allowed to bring a pup home.

I totally agree...and it's too bad that we don't require some sort of competency test for parents, especially for parents of multiples!

Its A Good Thing said...

JJ28, check out the post below this one on the main page, there is alot of talk about the Oprah show.

Annies said...

JJ28 said...
Is there going to be any mention of the Gosslings on Oprah today? Kate was SO fake! And she was talking about some new rules in the new house, like no cameras in the bedrooms for privacy since the kids are older. And apparently they don't film on Sundays, because that's when they go to church.

3/09/2009 3:02 PM

They must have changed churches again for the third time.. They were going to mine and I can tell you I have yet to see them at any services and I doubt they go to the 7:30 AM services with all those kids to get dressed. That van sticks out like a sore thumb.

jill said...

On Oprah.com it said their fifth season starts in May. Don't most t.v. shows take a three month break?

shell said...

I have to get back to the cameraman. it makes me sad that scott is gone. those boys loved him. I think it was aiden ormaybe Joel that went running in the house scott, scott, scott and then ran right for Jen. remember that. lol.
those poor children have no one left. I honestly think the crew really loved them. does anyone else think how sad and confused these kids must be.

SandyW said...

I watched Oprah today. The kids were all beautiful and it was nice to see the hair was out of the tups eyes. I think it was french braided parted in the middle and pulled tightly to the back.

The whole family on one couch and on the rug in front. Kate was skinny and sat ridgedly straight backed. As was mentioned Kate talked about all those new rules and church on Sunday. And about how she gets up at 5:30 a.m. and runs on the treadmill for an hour.

No pups in sight.

Mady's face was pure agony to look at. I swear she is trying to get a message through -- reminded me of a hostage victim silently pleading through the taped ransom demand.

momtobe said...

Yes, you become an RN after attending a two or three year training hospital. You can be an RN without having a Bachelor's Degree. If you are an RN and you have the Bachelor's, then you have a BSN. Hope this clears it up a bit.
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Not always. A lot of programs in Canada are BN (Bachelor of Nursing) programs.That's what I have. I also know people with their BSN.It essentially depends on the university and what they what faculty their program falls under.

Jami said...

Seriously, was the kids just cleaning up pee off of the floor with their hands??? Can we say gross????

Jennifer D. said...

The little girls are cleaning up the dog pee? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

kate is complaining about her laundry room? No kidding, talk about timing: I just now happened to come up from my old yucky basement with a basket of clothes. I heard the sump pump kick on as I walked by and realized that my sock was now damp. I would LOVE to have a laundry room like that one.

Nellie's Mom said...

::snark::

And thank goodness that there is a return of the bibs and the naps for the tups!!

Now, I must go back to channel surfing. =)

JJ28 said...

Watching the new episode.... I guess that yogurt company didn't want to pay for advertising, so they blurred it out! LOL And is it just me, or does the show have a completely different vibe since they moved?

Tash said...

So sad. Kate really hates the dogs...how are the kids going to learn unconditional love when she threatens to send them back.

patty said...

They are seriously dumbest people in the world. How can they sit there and compain about all the work involved with two puppies....did they think the dogs would train themselves?

Also, I love how Kate describes how she needs a bigger laundry room and would like a laundry room addition and a garden room. I'm guessing that is coming next....

Cindermommy said...

Is anyone watching this horror show?? SHe just said that her laundry room isn't big enough, and she just threatened to return the dogs again. It is two months later and she is still threatening to taken them back!!

Lots of Luck said...

Oh my gosh 5 minutes into the show and Kate is complaining about the laundry room being too small. And 4 yr. olds cleaning up dog urine-that's healthy right? Ane the new furniture everywhere, we know Kate didn't do that, she can't even choose a topper for a window as she has said before. And, oh no filming on Sunday, since when, since they were last filmed at church and then went to the park afterwards. Lies. lies. Lies.

iheartmyhubby said...

HAHA... Kate said Nala was listless, skinny, and not the Nala she knew...

Kinda like Kate on some of the recent couch interviews.

Funny that both are bitches.

KatieStinks said...

Mrs. Organic uses paper plates and throws away the tups plastic yogurt containers in the trash. Yeah Kate, eat oraganic but kill the planet.

Have the dogs ever been anywhere in the house but the basement.

Do they wear bids in preschool too?

She is such a witch.

Reality? said...

Hmmmm in discussing the visit to the vet Kate mentions leaving again for another trip on a sunday... guess this was before they stopped everything show related for church and the day of rest?

mary k said...

OMG....now Kate,s bitchin cause she needs a larger laundry room? She never stops..and whats the deal with both of them tonite on the couch, they looked stoned. I hope someone comes and takes those dogs away, before one of them dies. They let that sick dog stay sick for a week before they took her to Vet. Jon & Kate should be caged up.

Tammy H. said...

I haven't got to write in a while but anyway, I just turned it over to the show and guess what...Kate was threatening to return the dogs and complaining that the laundry room wasn't big enough. Same show, different episode! That woman will never be happy with anything. And I believe it was Alexis who asked why Mady got granola and she didn't and the answer she received was "U don't need it", the way I look at it, if a kid wants GRANOLA, let them have some, whats it gonna take an additional 10 seconds to give them all a little scoop. What a waste of air and space Kate is. And to beat it all, they finally get the kids something they love but as usual, they get rid of the dogs in the end, to a farm that has land for them to run....does anyone understand that? The new house has tons of land...if Kate was that lazy, they have plenty of money to of bought electronic collars and trained them not to leave a certain area...but that's not Kate way...if something stands in her way or doesn't do what she wants, she gets rid of it/them...just like her family and friends. I am finally glad people aren't being as fooled by her like they were a year ago!

iheatrtmyhubby said...

I see a house full of new furniture and rugs but don't recall any mention of where it came from. I wonder how come they weren't screaming Lane Furniture's name from the roof tops?

MayDay said...

Is the timeline off a bit? I thought they got the dogs at Christmas...they just got into the car to pick them up at the vet and Jon told them they do not need their coats. Was there a really warm day lately in PA? Some of the trees in the background still did not have buds on them...so I am confused.

Tammy H. said...

Oh yeah, 1 more thing...she is still forcing them to take naps. Yeah, when mine were almost 5 they might need to lay down a few minutes, but it wasn't required..they had grown out of it, but I guess Kate needs her "alone" time...UGGHHHH!!!

Wendy Bird said...

I loved it when one of the little boys told the camera man that the dog didn't want to be interviewed!

Jon left Alexis in the van and had to go back to get her!

Jennifer D. said...

I just rewound:

They don't need jackets? There is snow on the ground and JON is wearing a jacket. Maddy is wearing a coat.

JJ said...

I pray to every God there is that these dogs leave the Gosselin home.

"Well, I can't keep her from running around. She's an outside dog. I can't stop her."

Mere minutes after the vet explicitly says that Nala CANNOT be running around or her stitches will tear.

What kind of dog/pet owner is so apathetic about their pet's recovery? Jon has sunk to an absolute new low and I hope I never hear anyone defend him or complain about Kate emasculating him - he's no man to begin with. Absolutely disgusting behaviour IMO. I couldn't believe the apathetic crap coming out of his mouth.

Cindermommy said...

The last section of the show was entirely devoted to poop... close ups of poop, Jon examining poop, Kate complaining about poop... This show should be Jon + Kate and Close Ups of What Everyone Ate

Jackie said...

Million dollar house, but the kids eat PB&J, a handful of Teddy Grahams, and a cartoon of yogurt on paper plates?

Just curious, but WHAT THE HELL is Kate cooking all the time in the kitchen? It sure isn't lunch for the kids.

Sarahboo said...

I didn't like the kids cleaning up pee either. They are too young to know how to do it properly. And only using one piece of paper towel will not soak up pee. All I could think of was that nasty pee is on her hands now and I doubt she washed it afterwards. Ugh!

Even my husband, who rarely watches, scoffed when she complained about the laundry room being too small. He couldn't believe she would complain about that huge room. And then he saw she even had TWO washers and TWO dryers. I would love a dryer that even worked. It takes me all weekend to dry clothes b/c our dryer won't dry. I have to hang clothes on a drying rack and when they are dry, I fluff in the dryer. It takes 2 days to do 3-4 loads of laundry all weekend. I would LOVE just one of each of her washers and dryers. Then her laundry room would be SO much roomier.

I also noticed how she was gone again and how Jon took care of all the kids, school, and dogs by himself. He isn't as harried as Kate used to be when she did it alone. I do think there is a nanny though because the girls' hair looked too groomed to be from their dad or mom. Their hair was really slicked back and nicely done, totally different than it has ever looked before. So I think Nanny did that.

Lots of Luck said...

OK pet lovers everywhere, let's pick up our puppy from the vet after surgery and let's NOT follow the after surgery instructions from the vet, just let the little puppy run and run and run. John remember your hair transplants and you had to put on your hat after surgery against the advise of your Dr.??? Let's not listen to someone who is smarter than us...Duh

And so at the end of the show, lots of beautiful new furniture, just makes me sick, not at all jealous just sick because I know those kids have lived under studio lighting and lost their families and tv/camera/ friends to get everything to satisfy their parents greed. Did you notice the girl tups hair in contrast to Mady and Cara, they looked somewhat neglected, not even brushed. Come on people wake up!!! Get this show off the air now!

Connie said...

Now you know those kids were threatened to behave this time for Oprah. Seeimg how badly they behaved the last time when Queenie was talking about Octomom, they probably put the fear of God in them this time. And you can tell the kids were coached to say " Hi Oprah" "Bye Oprah" "I love you, Oprah". Oh, those kids were surely working when this was filmed ( acting ). No doubt about it. They were lectured to big time that they best behave or the wire hangers will be brought out.

MirandaB2008 said...

just finished watching this episode. Kate was pretty much a 'bystander' but of course we had to be made to endure her Snarky comments.
The woman is going to have her left ear hanging 2 inches lower than the left one if she continues twirling that Ear-ring the way she does.
She pretty much admits that she has washed her hands of anything to do with the dogs now and says she 'liked them when they first brought them home' ....... so they are now ' Jon's dogs' .....
they appear to have only the one Crate for them in the downstairs area? That one is barely the proper size for the one dog. What are these people thinking?? I feel badly for the dogs...
I can just hear the screeching the first time any of the kids come tromping thru the house with dog Poo on their shoes.

carrie said...

Overall, I did not think it was too bad of an episode. It had a few moments but not awful.

Neena B. said...

Not watching tonight and only reading about the trainwreck here.

I'd rather Dance With The Stars than watch a bitchfest with Kate.

MrsTenutes said...

OMG please tell me someone caught the word that she totally made up, something like obviouslyish.

It's about time the house is furnished. TLC did a gret job. Maybe it was Jon, since we all know Kate can't even pick out an outfit to wear.

Lots of Luck said...

Do you think it's possible that Lane did not GIFT the Gosselins with furniture and they actually paid for it themselves? We know they KON are on Lane's website but maybe that's it or maybe they will be used in store promotions with "MARKETABLE" literature of something like that. Or maybe, we will soon see an infomercical showcasing KON. What's next birthday parties at Disney as they're popping up again as a sponsor tonight.

Ana said...

If they would stop using the word "like" in every sentence I would be so happy. It is so immature and unprofessional.

Susan said...

I never thought I would see the day when the "little girls" would have their hair up and out of their faces!! They were like that on Oprah today and on tonights episode. Have the parents finally gotten around to caring for the girls hair or do they have someone doing their hair now?!?!? They look like totally different kids.

I can't stand the way Kate always says "MY". "My laundry room", "My house", "My new blah, blah blah". She NEVER says our new house, our laundry room, etc. It's as if Jon and the children do not exsist.

I also can't stand the way Kate is always standing above what the kids are doing (eating, playing, etc.). She towers over them as if to show that she is above them. Anyone knows, or should I say anyone that knows anything about young children, knows that you should get down to their level when talking and interacting with them. Sit with them when they are eating, get on the floor with them when they are playing, etc.

I don't know why I keep watching. Maybe it is because I hold out hope that something will change for those children. That MAYBE J and K will read what we are saying and try to be better parents.

Hey the kids hair is out of their faces so maybe other things will start changing. Let's hope so for all 8 of those little sweeties.

Scruffy's Mom said...

Dannon now is a sponsor ... not sure if that was the brand they were eating but they sure did talk about yogurt and show the yogurt cups a lot ...

also noticed a Botox.com commercial about 10 minutes before the show came on.

I can hardly stand to look at her anymore ... and those faces along with hand gestures the two of them make drive me nuts ...

and we got our two minutes worth of poop discussion ...

Denise said...

"Anonymous Tash said...

So sad. Kate really hates the dogs...how are the kids going to learn unconditional love when she threatens to send them back."

Well,grandparents, family, friends, neighbours, employees, school mates, and everyone else disappear from their lives.

The Sunday story is ludicrous. Kate was in Kentucky last Sunday, spoke and then skipped the rest of the church service.

me said...

I can't believe she is making them take naps at almost 5 years old. Also, she mentioned about them getting up and coming downstairs and them telling them to go back to bed. So, how long is she making them spend in the beds per day??? Way too long if you ask me! Oh, who did the girls hair when Kate was away on "business"? I'm sure he didn't do it, it was too perfect. And if Hannah has migranes, why don't they cut her hair already! Kate is so mean to those kids, she rarely speaks a nice work, it's always mean and hateful and sometimes demeaning. I can't believe she's complaining about the laundry room, this woman is never happy! I guess the furniture wasn't free, unless that's an upcoming episode. Oh, and the kids were much better behaved for Jon.

Just moved said...

Okay, I am going to be honest with all of you - I watched it.

Lots of things to say about it but I will try to be brief. First of all, how many kids four years of age are served a very tiny yogurt and hummus for breakfast. And what mother allows one child to have granola because she is older. I cannot believe that the kids who asked for granola were denied. It reminded me of the bagel episode sometime ago. Since I haven't been watching in such a long time I was surprised at the kids' obvious delayed speech. I have a grandchild the same age and she speaks like an adult. Now Kate said she was leaving on Sunday (I am sure she meant after they attended church) so she wasn't home on Monday when John was giving them their lunch. It was evident that someone had fixed each of the three little girls hair and I assume that was the nanny. Then why the heck wasn't she shown giving them lunch instead of the martyr, Jon, doing it all himself. Also, she may have the mansion like Beth but she sure needs Beth's touch when it comes to decorating. I thought the house was rather messy but was glad to see they are finally allowing the outside of the house, revealing its size, to be shown.

Kate had better forget using OCD as an excuse for some of her behavior as no one suffering with it would have allowed her sliding glass door to look like that one did. I also wondered why they are still using the front of the old house in the intros.

Since Dr. Wagner allowed his name and face to be shown I guess he will not be sending a bill for the operation as he now has had free advertising.

AnnieD said...

Mrs. Organic uses paper plates and throws away the tups plastic yogurt containers in the trash. Yeah Kate, eat oraganic but kill the planet.
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I noticed that - just pitched the plastic into the trash. I haven't seen anyone do that in years. I hope the kids stay in public school so they know better.

K8theF8ke said...

Kate needs her "alone" time...UGGHHHH!!!

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She has plenty of alone time....did you hear her on the couch saying how she was on a business trip when the dog went in, and again when they picked Nala up? She's never frickin home! She is just so very important, isn't she. I cannot believe someone who portrays themselves as someone who "always wanted children" is that self-centered. What she "wanted" was attention. On Oprah today all I heard was "I'VE always said", I this I that...never a WE. Last week it was "If you're eating in MY kitchen you need to sit down", "Closure will come when I don't have any bills from that house"...I I I ME ME ME.....she makes me sick.

Jennifer D. said...

I love Kate's passive/aggressive interogating:

Jon, do you clean up the dog poop everyday? Everyday? So you don't clean it up everyday? So are you just going to leave it there to sit?

What's wrong with her pooper scooper? She can go clean it up herself.

And I love her mentioning that she is going on a "business trip"....sorry Kate, you have to actually be in a BUSINESS to go on a business trip. Kate is going on a fully paid, first class, trip to beg for ~donations~....

EnufAlready! said...

These people are just disgusting. I noticed all the rooms completely furnished. Maddy had her braces. She has a multi-million dollar home, 8 HEALTHY children, everything her little heart desires. And yet she STILL complains!! WTF?!?! They don't even have jobs!! Put a fork in me....i'm DONE!! No more with this freak show. And now Octo-Mom has a new home! And a new show "Table for 12" coming up! What is going on? No such thing as personal responsibility anymore. People can have litters of children, and the cash starts flowing. Must be nice. I'm having a hard enough time raising my 2. Should have had a dozen more and i'd be on easy street!!

MirandaB2008 said...

I wonder if the Breeder of these dogs watches to see how the pups are being treated or if he ever did a followup on them?

when the Vet tells Jon to keep her quiet and don't let her run around!?? yeah right.

5 minutes after they are back home? where is the dog? outside running and playing with her brother & Jon just shrugs it off and says' they're outside dogs' Oh well........
nice.

i_love_my_GSD said...

Ugh. Today will definitely be the very last time I watch this nauseating TV show. I have never been a big fan of Kate but after today's episode, I am absolutely disgusted by how Kon treats their dogs. As a GSD owner myself, I feel sad watching how these beautiful animals are treated.

First things first, these are DOGS not cute, cuddly new TOYS that you bought for your kids. Jon and Kate seem to treat the puppies like toys that are meant to keep their kids entertained. When a dog swallows a toy and has to go to the vet, that is not something that needs to be filmed on camera as a "fun" memory...that is appalling and says volumes about the kind of dog owners you are. For one thing, kids that age cannot be left unsupervised with dogs that age. Neither the kids nor the dogs know any better. If I ever have kids while my GSD is around, I will make sure that both the kid and the dog gets educated/trained on how to interact with one another. For the kids, no holding the dog down, no pulling it, no suffocating it. They are not toys, they are dogs and they need to be treated with respect. For the dogs, they need formal obedience training...for starters, teach them to not jump or "stand up" to get attention. My GSD weighs 110 pounds and if these dogs grow any big as my dog has at the age of two, then it is imperative that the dog is well mannered. I wonder if all the play biting and the swallowing of toys that Kon's dogs are doing is actually because they dont have enough chew toys.

Jon, when a dog pees out of excitement, it is not necessarily because they love you to bits and pieces and have to pee to express their love...you are crowding into the dogs space and making it pee from nervous energy..yes, the dog might be overjoyed to see you, but it still needs its space to deal with that excited energy. And the dogs peeing on the carpet out of excitement is nothing to boast about. Tell the kids to back off, stop crowding the puppy and see how the puppy magically stops peeing on the carpet out of excitement.

When a vet specifically advises you to make sure the puppy gets rest and does not over exert itself when it has come back home from a surgery, for heavens sake, listen to the vet, instead of rolling your eyes, shrugging your shoulders and saying "yeah right". If you came home from a surgery, you'd be overjoyed to see your family, but you would still need your rest. How can any responsible dog owner let the puppy roll around in the mud right after a surgery? You are just waiting for bacterial contamination and an infection to occur. Even if it kills me to see my dog depressed from being cooped up, I would rather the dog stays depressed for a few days while in recovery, and heals completely before I allow her to play outside in the mud.

Also, as Caesar Milan (Dog Whisperer)will tell you, letting your dogs loose in the backyard and having them play with one another outside does not count as exercise. As a GSD owner, I'll tell you, these dogs will not be happy unless they are being trained. They love learning new tricks. They love having a "job". Unless Kon takes the time to give these dogs the attention they deserve, to train them, to spend time bonding with them every day, their owning these dogs is a terrible waste of a beautiful, loving breed of dog.

As a dog lover and as a GSD owner, I cant stand to watch this disgusting show anymore. The dogs dont deserve visits to the vet out of sheer negligence and irresponsibility. I for one, wont support it. I hope the dogs find other homes with more responsible owners who actually know and are willing to deal with the responsibility that comes with owning this amazing breed.

Just moved said...

I just thought of something else. Did anyone else think it strange that Mady was wearing a full length winter coat but he hadn't bothered to put coats on the little kids?

cubby1128 said...

There are so many things that are not right with this show. I feel so bad for the kids and the dogs. Watching Oprah and now the episode tonight. It actually looked like it was painful for Jon and Kate to answer questions today on Oprah, like they had better things to do. Someone needs to interview them and ask them serious questions. I am so tired of the usual interview questions.

I can't believe Kate wanting a bigger laundry room!! All of the new furniture in the house makes me want to throw up. The dogs are either outside or in a cage. I really hope that they do give the dogs away to a better home but they keep the dogs together. I know it will be hard on the kids. I would never expect my 4 yr. old little boy to clean up after a dog. Jon leaving a kid in the van, Cara and Mady fighting over who gets to walk to the dog. Everyone looks so tired and unhappy.

Lisa said...

I just watched the 3/9 episode...where in the world have they (J&K) been to get so TAN??

tallblonde said...

OMG - for the poster that said Kate would say she was out of town....*LOL* You got it EXACTLY RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!! :)

So much for Kate the "stay at home mom" !!!

C said...

MayDay said...
Is the timeline off a bit? I thought they got the dogs at Christmas...they just got into the car to pick them up at the vet and Jon told them they do not need their coats. Was there a really warm day lately in PA? Some of the trees in the background still did not have buds on them...so I am confused.

3/09/2009 6:17 PM

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Someone posted here that they were at the vet when this was filmed. It was on February 9.

jaded (and this time furious) said...

I can't take it anymore. I'm about to explode. These idiots know nothing about dogs and training puppies. Puppies and young dogs NEED to chew, and therfore need appropriate things to chew on that are made specifically for that purpose. If dog chew toys aren't available, dogs will chew on ANYTHING. That's not a dog being stupid, which is what Kon koncluded (always taking the high road) that's a dog doing what it needs to do. They really are bonafide dolts. Kate saying something about Nala, not being herself. And Jon saying, well yeah, she's the alpha female. WTF does that mean? She's the only female dog in the house, so it's not clear whether she's dominant or not, unless she regularly beats the crap out of Shoka or whatever the f the other dog's name is (a behavior she no doubt learned from the two-legged alpha female with the psychotic do).

Jon is such a moron, after the vet sternly told them all that Nala needs to be kept quiet, he lets both dogs out to run around and rough house. Then he says, well, I can't keep the dogs quiet, they're outside dogs. I hate to say it, but even Kate, despite her miserable personality and her questionable grasp on reality, said that she would have kept Nala inside for at least a day. But Jon said, no, they needed to play. What's he gonna say, when Nala has ripped out all her stitches and she's bleeding profusely from her wound? (Great role model for the kids!) He didn't even have the sense to ask the vet how to deal with a young, energetic dog who needs to be kept quiet. BTW, what you do is you keep the dog crated and when it needs to go outside, you put the dog on a leash and walk it, and you do that until the incision is healed.

The sad part for the dogs is that they are getting absolutely no training whatsoever, so if they do end up being returned, it's going to be difficult if not impossible to find permanent homes for these poor animals because they're going to be huge, not house-trained, and out of control—think puppy behavior in 75 to 100 lb. dogs!

One more thing: These kids are too young to be cleaning up any animal's pee and poop. They're also too young to be expected to keep their toys away from the dogs and out of their mouths. Kids also need to be taught how to interact and play appropriately with dogs and that you can't play with dogs the same way you play with humans. Needless to say, that's not going to happen, considering that the adults in the household are as clueless as the kids are. If these dogs survive to adulthood, it will be a miracle.

I don't know who the breeder is, but I don't know of any reputable dog breeders who would let two of their puppies go to a situation filled with such turmoil and dysfunction!

Grrrrr... now I need something to chew on!

GrammyPie said...

Hey I think I actually saw a book. It must have been the only one though, because two kids were fighting over it.

OMG these people are so into poop. Jon took great delight in showing us all the dog poop.

Kate said the girls were cleaning up after the dogs, so I assumed she meant the twins, but I think it was Alexis proudly "cleaning" up. That room must smell great.

ResponsibleOwner said...

"But about the episode... if she or Jon were responsible pet owners, they would watch those pups better. I'll bet one of those kids fed that dog the toy. They are not the most calm children in the world, that's for sure. I still can't figure out why they haven't stopped behaving like a bunch of wild animals, which is not entertaining to me at all."

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I AM a responsibly pet owner and my dog got ahold of a toy last year and the exact same thing happened to her. I dont think poorly of Kate at all for this happening. It really could happen to anyone and is in no way a reflection of if she is or isnt a good pet owner.

Also, I just read a comment by someone saying why didnt they just let it pass? Sometimes you have to go in and get things out via surgery. My dog got a toy and it wouldnt pass on its own. She started throwing just like Nala did.

And I keep reading comments saying that it was strange the cameras were there the day it was swallowed?? Did I miss that part? They were on the couch talking about what happened after she swallowed it, but we saw no footage of when it happened. What are you all talking about??

carrie said...

I'm guessing the nanny is doing the little girls hair. I can't see Jon getting their hair that neat, and with matching bows in it all by himself when they went to pick up Nala.

FYI said...

" jaded (and this time furious) said...
I can't take it anymore. I'm about to explode. These idiots know nothing about dogs and training puppies. Puppies and young dogs NEED to chew, and therfore need appropriate things to chew on that are made specifically for that purpose. If dog chew toys aren't available, dogs will chew on ANYTHING."

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Jaded- if you looked a little closer you would see that the dogs did have "dog toys" in and around their cages...just so you know :)

LIz said...

A few thoughts:

*Kate's botox looked terrible on Oprah today. Terrible. For someone not so old, her face is looking scary.

*When Jon was loading the kids in the van, the camera caught a quick reflection of a younger lady standing there. She didn't appear to be crew. Nanny perhaps?

*The kids were eating Stonyfield Farms yogurt. We love them at our house. We now especially love them since they obviously are not a sponser of this show.

*Don't you know Jon really wanted to put the retrieved pony under Kate's pillow rather than leaving it at the dorr?

*Either Jon has a second career as a hair stylist or the Nanny is doing the kids hair. It actually looks good for once.

*The dogs sure do jump on the kids alot. It makes me nervious

C said...

carrie said...
I'm guessing the nanny is doing the little girls hair. I can't see Jon getting their hair that neat, and with matching bows in it all by himself when they went to pick up Nala.

3/09/2009 7:12 PM

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If you look real closely, when the tups are getting into the van to go to school, you can see a reflection in the window of the van of the nanny once Jon closes the sliding door.

Pamela Jaye said...

did you hear her on the couch saying how she was on a business trip when the dog went in, and again when they picked Nala up? She's never frickin home!

If I were her kids, I might just be happy about that.
I remember when I was little my father had two jobs. When I was a teenager he quit his second job, so he was home to yell at us every night. I kept wishing he'd go back to working two jobs.
And then there were Friday nights - don't know where he was, probably work. I'd come down and chat with my mother while standing in the living room doorway. She'd tell me to come in and sit, but I wanted to stay in the doorway so that I could flee when I heard my father coming. He didn't yell as much when he didn't see me. (and he wasn't an alcoholic or anything, he was just extremely adept at finding fault, and you never knew what it was going to be to set him off next. Does Kate make new rules all the time, or is she just yelling at the kids for breaking the same rules over and over?)

Jennay said...

Can someone rewind and check on Mady's response at the vet when she and Joel(?) answered where mommy was. He said something and she repeated it while looking up at the camera or her dad. Looked to me like it was something they had been coached to say. How sad to have your children know how to cover your behind.

Sixxlet said...

momtobe, I don't know about Canada. I was just talking about the US. And yes, some universities here have Bachelor Degree programs in nursing, but it is a Bachelor of Science in Nursing, hence the term BSN. Now I once started nursing school but didn't go on with it. I did, however, go on to get a Bachelor's degree in biology. If I were to do a 2 year program and become an RN, I would be an RN with a Bachelor's. No title (no BSN), but it would get me more pay than an RN from a 2 or 3 year program *without* a Bachelor's degree.

Pamela Jaye said...

Hey Sarahboo,
so sorry to hear about your dryer. Our washer was broken for two years once. My mother did the laundry in the bathtub. It wasn't that we couldn't get it fixed - my father would fix it (he could fix almost anything) but she was scared to tell him it was broken, cause he'd yell.

The was so much talk of poo in this ep, it was like readong posts on my pet ducks group. (if Kate hates doggy poo... my duck can do a projectile poo. so fun to wash off the walls.)

At least we got little glimpses of the house.

Which of the girls was Cara playing with on the couch on Oprah? (I'm assuming it was Cara)

I'm still trying to get my mind around the concept of Kate getting up at 5...

MayDay said...

Thank you C for the info that the visit was on February 9th. That is my point exactly that Jon had a sweat shirt jacket on and he told the little kids that they did not need to wear one. What was that all about?

MayDay said...

I though Mady said that Kate was in LA

jaded (and still furious) said...

Just so YOU know, FYI, not all dog toys are created equal. There are toys and treats made especially for young dogs that need to chew, and from what I could see, none of those were available to the dogs. Besides, when you give a dog a chew toy, the dog needs to be supervised to make sure that it doesn't choke or otherwise get into trouble. Yeah, young dogs ARE like kids—a lot of work and a lot of pleasure. :)

beachluvin said...

Connie said...
Now you know those kids were threatened to behave this time for Oprah. Seeimg how badly they behaved the last time when Queenie was talking about Octomom, they probably put the fear of God in them this time. No doubt about it. They were lectured to big time that they best behave or the wire hangers will be brought out.

3/09/2009 6:39 PM
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Or, Kate might have to get the RED SPOON!!!

I don't watch anymore their show anymore but I did catch them on Oprah...
anyone notice how Jon's upper lip looked puffy on Oprah? Maybe Kate used the red spoon on him.
Also.....regarding the kid's behavior this time....Jon was present and he was not during the last set of interviews where Mady said to Kate "You're not my boss!!!"...I am sure they are used to being around Jon and not Kate. They had Alexis stationed with Cara....Hannah, the gold child was between Jon and Kate and, Aiden was with Mady and the other three who are the most behaved were on their own.
Jon probably said three words......poor Jon....LOL!!!

TinaMP said...

Actually I live about 2 hrs from the gosselins and there were a few days in February that were in the 60's here believe it or not. I know I placed "spring" jackets on my children but it was still too nippy to be wearing no jackets

Gwopper said...

Lisa said...
I just watched the 3/9 episode...where in the world have they (J&K) been to get so TAN??


Fake and Bake, I'm sure. Great example for the kids, eh? That's our Kate!!

Gwopper said...

jill said...
On Oprah.com it said their fifth season starts in May. Don't most t.v. shows take a three month break?

MUST.HAVE.MORE.MONEY!!!!

Sixxlet said...

BTW, what you do is you keep the dog crated and when it needs to go outside, you put the dog on a leash and walk it, and you do that until the incision is healed.
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I don't even have a dog and even *I* know that! Fresh stitches on Nala and she was rolling in the mud. You could see how much mud he wiped off the stitches, too. Does he not realize that millions of bacteria have just infiltrated Nala's incision? I think Jon is 'slow.'

C said...

MayDay said...
Thank you C for the info that the visit was on February 9th. That is my point exactly that Jon had a sweat shirt jacket on and he told the little kids that they did not need to wear one. What was that all about?

3/09/2009 7:26 PM

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I dunno. He was probably too lazy to go get the 6 jackets out and get them all zipped and buttoned, lol. I remember someone posted here that they were at the same vet as the Gosselins when it was filmed and saw the film crew taping the reunion, so this was just filmed a few weeks ago.

dancingdog 1 said...

I was horrified by this episode. I quit watching last year but turned it on to see Jon openly ignoring the vets warnings. Yes, accidents happen, especially with puppies. I have a dog that JUST got through major stomach surgery similar to what theirs went through. We have two other dogs..and yet...we managed to keep them separated and give the healing dog a chance to do just that..HEAL..that surgery is NOT cheap..why risk it by letting the dog run around like that. The stitches could have ripped..and there is more than one layer to worry about..there are stitches on the inside too and if something had happened that dog would have been a goner...yeah...real responsible there..

I was overjoyed to see Kate's horrified expression when Jon stated it would be fertilizer. I hope she doesn't think he will be able to pick up every single scrap of poo...because guess what..some of it will probably become fertilizer. Does that mean she won't let her children play on the lawn? I am surprised they haven't hired a professional pooper scooper yet...give it time and a little bit more money.

I'm sorry but this is not the same family that started out the show. Fame and money have gone to their heads and it's sad.

One final comment...EVERY single time Kate is shown she is messing with either her ear or her earring....it's getting old. In addition as time has gone on the body stances of both Jon and Kate keep getting farther and farther apart...They used to sit closer to each other and even use to hug and lovetap each other but now it's as if Kate is going to fall out of that couch if she leans any farther away from Jon...

bradleymom said...

Is anyone else feeling like Kate has just checked out? Among all her faults - this one stands out. She is just gone and not interested in being a Mom anymore- I think she would just rather be travelling and being pampered. She even had to ask Jon how often he cleans up the dog poop in the yard. She has no clue what is happening in her own house, to her family. She is(has) become a sick, pathetic individual.

erinshane said...

As both a dog owner and family therapist, I'm apalled on so many levels. It was bad enough with their own litter running around...now they've added two dogs from the same litter. German Shepherds already have way too much potential for dominance and aggression for obviously inexperienced dog owners, but the fact that someone allowed these people to take home two from the same litter is reprehensible. The dogs will be too busy trying to sort out their own innate dominance issues to pay any attention to an owner trying to be the pack leader--which we know that Jon is incapable of and Kate has no interest in, since there's really not that much potential for free stuff for her or money for pimping them out.

Swallowing the toy pony is the least of what could happen here. I fear that one--or more--of the kids will again be victim to their parents' lack of good sense by being injured by a dog that's just totally had enough. I see no evidence of training, and there clearly was no lesson learned from the toy incident, as we saw Shoka in the crate with toys--a major don't, as particularly puppies shouldn't be left unattended with toys. Shame on Jon and Kate, but shame too (and in my opinion moreso) on the breeder and the veterinarian. I sincerely hope that there was a major "talking to" from the vet that the camera didn't catch--however, a lot of good that will do with Kate in LA and not there to hear it. But I doubt it ever happened, since the vet apparently wasn't even realistic enough to understand that Nala was not going to remain quiet and relatively inactive for two weeks with 8 kids around. I suppose, however, this is par for the course in Lancaster County aka Puppy Mill Haven (I say this as a resident...).

Okay. That was the dog owner tirade. The family therapist one will be relatively short, as I'll pick just one issue from this episode, otherwise I'd be here all night...

Kate's pattern of purposely distancing these kids from everyone with whom they have loving relationships seems destined to continue with these dogs. We have yet to see an episode where she assures the children that the puppies are here to stay--part of the family. No, in true Kate fashion, she attempts to control and manipulate here too, threatening to get rid of the puppies if something goes awry.

I'm all for fostering responsibility in children--but a rationale explanation is the way to go. Any reasonable parent would expect that kids would be way more into playing with the puppies than taking responsibility for them. Where are their role models for accountability and responsibility? Certainly not their parents, who assert that society should bear the burden of caring for them. How long until one of these kids believes that mommy will get rid of them because they've done something wrong--there are always seven more, after all...Just another example of Kate's verbal and emotional abuse of her family.

mom_of_2 said...

A couple of things...where to begin?
Jon mentioned on the couch that Alexis dumped shampoo all over bathroom counter and was smearing it everywhere...the poor kids are just screaming for attention, and negative attention is still attention to a child! It also bothered me that Jon tells them to buckle their own seatbelts. My son who is three likes to buckle his own seatbelt, but I of course check it to make sure it's secure!
Oh and walking out of the vet's office Jon told the kids to have some "respect." It's funny how neither he nor Kate shows respect! How on earth does he expect his children to show respect? Obviously it's not something that they've learned from their parents! And it also bothers me that the dogs are just left outside on their own! Puppies are just like babies and should not be left alone with all the hazards that are outside! And did anyone catch him say twice that the dogs were "outside" dogs? I thought originally they said that they were indoor pets? Or is this just one of their many contradictions?

mom_of_2 said...

MayDay said...
Is the timeline off a bit? I thought they got the dogs at Christmas...they just got into the car to pick them up at the vet and Jon told them they do not need their coats. Was there a really warm day lately in PA? Some of the trees in the background still did not have buds on them...so I am confused.
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The week of February 9th was extremely warm here in PA. I remember because my birthday was on the 11th and I had the windows down in the car! I remember it being the perfect weather for my birthday!

JJ28 said...

Oh yeah! Did anyone hear when Jon was giving out their 'lunch' (to me it looks more like a snack) and one of the girls wanted strawberry yogurt, and Jon was like WHAT'S THE RULES, YOU GET WHAT YOU GET and then the kids chimed in AND THAT'S IT! ...or something to that effect. What kind of nonsense is that? I know there's 8 kids, but they can at least have the freedom to choose what flavor yogurt they want without it having to be a huge thing.

zoey said...

how gross does her house smell with dog pee all over it.
its hard enough to get rid of the smell with vigorous scrubbing from an adult so i can imagine since she lets the kids clean it it really stinks in there.

me again said...

The dogs jumping up on the kids scare me, and the fact that the dogs and kids are together and obviously unsupervised (except my crew on some days). The jumping up is a sign of dominance, the dogs, especially the female, is trying to show dominance over the kids, which is bad news. The dogs could go after the kids at anytime, trying to establish dominance. Those dogs need trained in the worst way, and so do the owners. I think they got them to entertain the kids (that and for the show of course) and that's a bad idea.

erinshane said...

zoey said...
how gross does her house smell with dog pee all over it.
its hard enough to get rid of the smell with vigorous scrubbing from an adult so i can imagine since she lets the kids clean it it really stinks in there.


I'm sure it's pretty gross--but the issue is not cleaning the pee as much as it is modifying the submissive urination behavior--this dog is scared to death! But modification takes effort and runs counter to Kate's pattern of behavior, and therefore will likely be ignored...so clean away, child minions. And good luck.

Steph said...

jill said...
On Oprah.com it said their fifth season starts in May. Don't most t.v. shows take a three month break?
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May is 'sweeps' month. So, naturally TLC couldn't do without their star show being off the air during that important time. 'Season Finale' my a$$. The whole marketing/advertising/PR behind J&K+8 (and possibly their other popular 'family night' programs, too) is much too money motivated. If they want to get into the full time business of reality progamming they need to change the name of their network because their programming is FAR from anything that TLC once stood for.

3ts said...

Wonder how long Kate will continue to threaten sending the dogs back? Cute pups for sure.
Wow, the Gosselins got A LOT of new furniture. I didn't even see the old couch and chair anywhere, it looked like a new sectional in the basement. New living or sitting room couches/loveseats, a fancy dining room set, etc.. Living large at the Gosselins and Kate's still not happy.

Pepper said...

I laugh when they say "Kate is on a business trip"!
Last I heard pimping was illegal.

She clearly is only home when she has to be and being with the kids is not something she wants to do.
IMO they both suffer from Peter Pan syndrome and really the last place either one of them want to be is home with the kids.

I am not sure what the plan will be when this all dies down because one day it is going to be these two idiots with a house full of kids without direction or goals including the parents. Reality will be a bitter pill to swallow.

erinshane said...

me again said: "Those dogs need trained in the worst way, and so do the owners."

oooooh...I think it's pretty clear that they're being trained in the WORST way...

erinshane said...

Pepper said: "I laugh when they say "Kate is on a business trip"!
Last I heard pimping was illegal."

Maybe she's in Nevada...?

beachluvin said...

zoey said...
how gross does her house smell with dog pee all over it.
its hard enough to get rid of the smell with vigorous scrubbing from an adult so i can imagine since she lets the kids clean it it really stinks in there.

3/09/2009 7:55 PM
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They wanted to be sure to bring something familiar from the old house over to the new house and since they got rid of the potty chairs they replaced them with fresh dog pee. Way to go Jon and Kate!

Kari said...

Even though I am a dog lover, I think the kids are FAR more important than the dogs, and I am afraid they might get hurt. Even the sweetest dogs will bite if threatened, and I really don't see why they needed to get dogs that will eventually weigh about 100 pounds! They could break the children's bones by just playing with them without any violence. I think the issue here is safety, for both the dogs and children, because if something happens and children are seriously hurt, the dogs will probably be put down, which would be a great shame.

GOd, I love those kids, and I don't want to see anything happen to them, regardless of how awful their parents are. And I don't wish bad things on KON, but I do hope they get their heads out of their butt and put their family first!!!!

BTW, does anyone know if Kate or Jon even HAVE any friends anymore?? I have a 10-year old cousin that I take care of (much like Kevin and Jodi did with KON's brood), and I love being able to vent to my best friend about the struggles she is having and how best to help her (she has developmental issues and a poor family life...similar to the 8 kids). SURELY, ths supposed "STRESS" Kate always says she has can be alleviated by such a friend. Any thoughts?

jonandkatewho? said...

I AM a responsibly pet owner and my dog got ahold of a toy last year and the exact same thing happened to her. I dont think poorly of Kate at all for this happening. It really could happen to anyone and is in no way a reflection of if she is or isnt a good pet owner.

Also, I just read a comment by someone saying why didnt they just let it pass? Sometimes you have to go in and get things out via surgery. My dog got a toy and it wouldnt pass on its own. She started throwing just like Nala did.

And I keep reading comments saying that it was strange the cameras were there the day it was swallowed?? Did I miss that part? They were on the couch talking about what happened after she swallowed it, but we saw no footage of when it happened. What are you all talking about??

3/09/2009 7:11 PM


I stand by what I said. Do you really think Jon and Kate are responsible dog owners from what we have seen so far?

I have 3 dogs of my own. I know that dogs can sometimes get into things and eat them, and I'm also aware that sometimes things have to be removed surgically. I didn't make a comment about that so I'm not sure why you quoted me in the first place.

These two have the combined mentality of about a teenager, if that. Jon did not even try to let Nala rest when they got home, he just did what was easiest for him. That dog should have been watched and cared for properly as per the vet's instructions.

Kate threatened to get rid of them, again, and admitted to not liking the dogs the way she did at first. Of course not, the "newness" and the "baby" wore off and she realized that dogs are work!

Jon said the "alpha female" thing more than once. It just made me sick to hear him trying to act like he knows all about dogs when clearly he does not. I was actually almost embarassed for him, he sounded so idiotic. I have a female dog who is an alpha, so I know a little bit about that.

These dogs and kids are obviously allowed to just run riot with no supervision, unless the nanny is watching, and that is not good dog ownership. Others have pointed out that kids that age need to be taught and supervised when it comes to interacting with animals. Jon even had to yell at the kids not to chase Nala. Yet he did not do one thing the vet had just told him he needed to. Nala will be lucky to not have complications from that surgery, from the way the dogs were leaping around playing. I have got my dogs thru more than one surgery, and they usually feel like resting right afterwards, and it isn't that hard to restrict their activity somewhat.

These dogs are not getting any training that the eye can detect. Oh wait, they need to be shipped off for that, because Jon and Kate aren't about to train them themselves. They are too stressed out from watching the nanny take care of their kids.

Oh, in answer to the last question you asked....I think it's obvious that some people think the dog may have been allowed to swallow the toy to make an episode. I don't believe that happened, though. But I do not see either of these two behaving like responsible parents OR dog owners.

SJ and ME + 3 said...

duggarfan said...
No clue what happened to producer Jen. She's probably sitting at a Starbucks somewhere with Beth, Aunt Jodi, and nanny Jenny...



Now THAT'S funny!

Jennifer D. said...

My last comment on this episode (I think)

I don't have a problem with Jon telling the kids "you get what you get' with the yogurt. Let's be real here, what if they all wanted one flavor? I would have done the same thing with my kids when they were small.

Also, I have been silent on this for a while but I have to say this.....regarding Maddy.

My daughter is now 22 but when she was younger she was just like Maddy. I have flashbacks when I see that kid in action on the show. You have to be careful before you decide what is the parents fault and what it just the kids personality.

My daughter was horrible to her brothers and she spent a lot of time in her room under punishment. No amount of talking, spanking, threatening, grounding, pleading, begging, etc would change the way she was wired. Her younger brother was a polar opposite of her even though he was only 16 months younger. I swear I did not have time to become a new parent in 16 months. They were raised together with the same rules.

and before I am attacked; yes, I spanked my kids. It was a last resort and I always said that you had to work very hard to get a spanking from me.

TN_Mamato4 said...

I AM FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!

Where do I begin?...

1st of all, KATE GET OVER YOURSELF.
1 word= TANOREXIC

You look orange, and anorexic.

A 4 yr old should NOT being clean up DOG pee!! HELLO???

Are these people IDIOTS? Potty training dogs is on LEASHES so you can LAVISH praise when they go pee-pee. However, KON are too lazy to actually invest the time and energy to properly train the animals!

UM, HELLO, the DOG HAD SURGERY! Our dog was recently fixed. We kept her in our room, on her bed, and didn't let the children excite her. We took out on a leash, and let her rest.

KON had her RUNNING AROUND!!!!!!!!! Is he an IDIOT?..

And for the LOVE of the TUPS, take those BIBS off, and GET THEM OUT OF HIGH CHAIRS! How embarassing. Honestly, how are those kids going to function in KINDERGARTEN without someone wiping their butts?..

Oh, and KATE, you're a selfish selfish piece of work. My laundry room is TEENY tiny, and I have 1 washer, and 1 dryer.. OH, and they are NOT your $$$$FREE$$$$$$ top of line washers and dryers.

GET OVER YOURSELF KON! Please can SOMEONE get TLC to PULL them?

Nikki said...

I am watching tonight and right inside the front door is a coat tree overflowing with coats (yet they wear nothing to the vet). These people are home all day and no one can put the darn coats on hangers and place them in a coat closet? No closets in this home? I would never have this in my house because I would hang them all up myself if no one else would. It is too messy and sloppy when you have 10 people. Also what is that shoe contraption inside the entry and why is it there? Who has that in their million dollar home? No shoes but two dogs peeing everywhere? Again, where is the closet or even the garage for these dirty shoes that cannot be worn into the house? At least in the old garage they were out of sight. I am not perfect but you will not find a shoe store at the entry to my house where I have beautiful hardwood floors.Would you want visitors (LOL) to see this mess? I guess I was raised differently. We had nothing but it was neat and clean. Reminds me of when Roseanne Barr became famous and made alot of money. "White trash with money" is how she referred to herself.

Haven said...

I used to like Jon and Kate....and I still like Jon, but I am fully against Kate. Anyone who uses a threat of taking beloved animals back, after your kids have fallen in love with them...growls I almost hope those poor puppies go back, so they can find true and loving homes. Maybe Jon will get lucky, and the breeder will take Jon in as well. The man would probably be happier in a kennel.

Janet said...

A lot has been mentioned about Kate's body language during interviews...tugging of the ears, hiding hands (she often has hers folded in crossed legs) and fidgeting and crossing limbs all point to signs of LYING. As if we didn't already know:

The deceiving man is tensed up and in a state of evasion, and he expresses this with his feet. Postures in which only the heels, toes or sides of the feet touch the ground are fairly frequent, and we often find a posture in which one foot is placed upon and covers the other.

A person�s discomfort with his lies will express itself in generally restiveness. He fidgets restlessly on his chair, touching his nose or lips, or his eyes or ears, while giving voice to the lie.

Liars, it transpires, tend to cross arms and legs more frequently. This limb crossing constitutes a defense, in which the liar feels that both he and his lie are less exposed. This point is particularly valid where the hands are concerned. Fully revealed and open hands attest to mental openness; and their incautious use is liable to betray the lie. Therefore the liar will tend to conceal his hands one inside the other, thrust them into his pockets or even sit on them.

Touching oneself, especially on the nose, mouth or eyes, is especially significant, as it points to a certain emotional difficulty. Such signs may relate to a sense of embarrassment, mental discomfort or tension that an individual feels when he lies. Sometimes self-touching may be an attempt at self-encouragement and support.

Mommyluvsherboy said...

Well she didn't yell at Jon tonight!! WoW!!!! That's amazing! They didn't sit so far apart on the couch either.

bradleymom said...

It Happened said...
Im all for blaming Kate for this nastiness, and I do blame her but I don't think that producer Jen is completely innocent. She witnessed it and if she didn't contribute to Kate's bad behavior she did nothing to help it. I know that Kate needs to take responsibility for her actions but Jen could have shown her being a tad nicer.

I probably wont watch tonight but I am looking forward to the recap.

3/09/2009 9:54 AM

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I really don't believe there is a "nicer" side of Kate to show. Does anyone think it is random, and just "editing",that shows Kate in such a horrible light? Editing cannot put words into someone's mouth - and editing also can't be blamed for "taking things out of context". The mean and derogatory things Kate has said are on record. Editing, context, or any other magic trick that TLC is trying to pull out of their a#@ (i mean hat) cannot actually make it that she is less vile than portrayed.
I, personally, think Jen should have been receiving hazard pay and have subsidized Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder therapy. Hurl a poopy diaper at me and all bets are off (when Kate threw one at Jen, someone that Jen must have disliked due to her apparent lack of caring for her children, while Jen seemed to truly care for them). It would be Smack-down, ready to rumble time!

Tiki said...

It is obvious from this episode that those dogs are an accident waiting to happen. They are not being trained and taught their place in the pack. Like any breed, if their place in the pack is not established, they will take over as leader. Jumping on the kids is evident that this is going the wrong way. Mark my words, one of those kids will be bit and at no fault of the dogs. It will be the fault of the irresponsible adults that 1. got 2 dogs at once 2. chose a large working breed 3. Has no experience with dogs 4. is not training the dogs 5. is not supervising 4 year olds around the dogs. Boy, are these people stupid. They will ruin 2 dogs through their ignorance. What a shame.

Nadine said...

Oh Lord...now the kids are saying "littow" too. Kate's murder of the English language is rubbing off on them.

jaded said...

Does anyone else think that "away on a business trip" is code for "a few days at a spa"?

shawna said...

Those washers and dryers can easily be stacked on one wall. Kate would then have an empty wall for her millions of laundry hampers.

Rap541 said...

Um ok.

I am horrified by the dog situation. If you are going to have pets, you have to TAKE CARE of them. If your kids are NOT old enough to undertake that responsibility - and four year olds aren't, then YOU have to be responsible for the dog's care. That means, no matter how well trained the four year olds are, you and not the children, are responsible for making sure that the dogs don't get to eat little toys. Having eight kids is NO excuse for this.

And I'm sorry but....if you don't want dogs, don't get dogs. Don't bring the dogs into your home, let the kids love the dogs, and then use the "I'm taking the dogs back" as a threat.

That made me really angry.

KatieStinks said...

They should rename the show Jon Plus Eight because Kate is always "away on business". It seems like she gets info on what the kids are doing during their interviews -- and she seems quite uninterested and fake.

gidget said...

That woman has ANOTHER "business trip" next weekend. She's attending a women's lifestyle show in London, Ontario. She has 2 speaking engagements on the Sunday - 11 a.m. and 2 p.m. (hmmm, wonder when she'll make it church that day). Tickets are $40 a pop. If you don't want to see Keight, admission is $10

Winstonsmama said...

I loved how Jon informed us that they had to do surgery because the horse had "moved from her large intestine to her small intestine" So it was heading back towards her mouth then?

SuzanneDeAZ said...

The saying is:

"You get what you get and do not throw a fit".

Many parents say that when they hand out things. Just cause you do not give your child a choice in a flavor of yogert does not mean they have no freedom of choice.

It gets tiring when you have a group of kids and you have to wait and hear their choice each time something is dished out, so many parents just give out and when the kids complain they give that cute saying.

momof1plus1plus2 said...

Is the next show going to show Nala back at the vet's office with a raging infection? Jon and Kate are clueless about caring for animals. Kate seemed to at least appreciate that Nala should have been crated during recovery, but she is never home, so that doesn't help.

Kate isn't interested in her kids at all anymore. There must be something seriously missing in a woman who can just not care at all about her kids.

Hannah W. said...

How much do you want to bet that we're going to see an episode where one of the kids gets hurt by the dog. Wouldn't be the dogs fault, because everybody knows Jon and Kate wont train them, but you know what happens to dogs that bite somebody.

I hope PETA ( I say we all write to them, because if anybody will do something, it's PETA ) goes after these two.

This show is disgusting.

elizabeth said...

It appears that they have made some changes with the new house -- no more filming in bedrooms and they don't film the front of the house.

Yes, there is more than plenty wrong but at least those changes have been made.

It's also been awhile since I've seen a naked kid or a kid in the bathroom. Too much talking about bodily functions but (I don't think) were actually seeing it.

SandyW said...

Random thoughts about the show

Kate said that Shooka ran on the treadmill with her once. And that she (Shooka) lost. WHAT???

Did Jon grow sideburns or have them implanted. I think his inner Elvis is coming out. And something was off with his eyebrows -- perhaps his inner Spock.

Near the end when Jon was pooper scooping at some point poop was found that had 'a chewy'.

What was Jon thinking talking about the pups pooping together and kinda demonstrating it. GROSS!!!!

Who was the kid he called 'weakbladder'? And why do they only go to school M W & F.

Wow it was Hannah's horse. And why are those pups chewing up 'tin' (aluminum) cans -- that they find tossed outside (??? soda cans at Kate's house -- must have been the evil previous owners).

I wonder if Jon and Kate are Producers but don't have Editor control.

This was an episode you can't put lipstick on.

travelbug said...

I think it is interesting that it was the perfect Hannah who left her toy out for the dog to ear and her parents said, "poor Hannah" and there were no repercussions or discipline for her. Had it been most of the other children (or Jon!) I am sure that it would have been much different.

Also, Hannah is behaving more like a brat with each passing week - rolling her eyes, talking back, and taking her role as "mommy's helper" too far by yelling at her brothers and sisters....I know everyone says Mady is the "problem" child in the family but I think that they will have a much bigger issue with Hannah in the near future.

Jerra said...

I'm not a Kate fan but was wondering if anyone knew what kind of shirt she was wearing at the first of the show? It had a blue cupcake on it with pink icing? If anyone knows...Thanks!

winky said...

See kate get all squirmy on Oprah today when asked about the octomom? You just know Kate is TERRIFIED this woman and her kids will get a show and replace hers.

Jon is a jerk. I can't stand him now either. He should have shown some compassion for that dog! Just letting him run around after he got home from the vet and then wiping all that mud off of his stitches! ARGH!!!!!! It's bad enough that they let the dog eat the toy, but they should at least take care of it after the operation! Disgusting!

About the furniture. It probably was bought by TLC. After all their house is just one big TV studio. It would make sense that TLC would buy the furniture to furnish the "scene".

laura weiss said...

I have a friend who is a police officer here in Arizona and he has a K-9 partner. The K-9 is a German Shepherd. I asked him the other day about what he thought about KON getting not one, but two GS puppies.

The response, via email:

"German Shepherds are a very bright, very perceptive, but very temperamental breed. They can be excellent companions, which is why so many police departments and other areas of law enforcement rely on this particular breed. They are very affectionate, they like to wrassle and be snuggled, they are incredibly loyal dogs, and very protective of the humans that they love. They are also excellent workers and take commands better than any breed out there that I have worked with.

With all of that being said, german shephreds can be nightmare dogs if you are not willing to put in the work necessary to make both dog and human happy. A GS WILL NOT BE HAPPY UNLESS YOU PROVIDE THE PROPER TRAINING AND THIS IS A LENGTHY AND INVOLVED PROCESS. Too many of these wonderful dogs wind up in the pound because the human was either too stupid or too lazy or both to do the work to make sure that the dog got the proper training. When we are assigned a dog with K-9, you have to go through so many tests and screenings. One of my items for the GS was that we have no small children at home. German Shepherds can startle easily and sometimes don't do well with constant commotion, especially without proper training. IMHO, little kids and lack of training with a german shepherd is a recipe for disaster."

Emphasis in ALL CAPS his, not mine.

Sixxlet said...

Who was the kid he called 'weakbladder'? And why do they only go to school M W & F.
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Because they are in PREschool and not kindergarten. In our area, all preschools are either M W F or T & Th.

Sixxlet said...

Wow it was Hannah's horse. And why are those pups chewing up 'tin' (aluminum) cans -- that they find tossed outside (??? soda cans at Kate's house -- must have been the evil previous owners).
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The cans probably belonged to Jon or Kate. I remember on one of the older episodes, they were showing her at the grocery store, and she was by herself, telling us about how she did her grocery shopping. At the bottom of her overflowing cart were two cases of soda. So I assume they were for Jon and/or her since the kids only get organic food and drink. I'm pretty sure one of the cases was Diet Coke. And in an episode not too long ago, I saw Kate drinking soda in a can. And we know Kate is not a recycler, so they probably just toss the cans wherever.

GrammyPie said...

I too wondered if dogs had their intestines rearranged differently than people. When Jon said it traveled from the large intestine to the small intestine, I finally chalked it up to Jon being his usual idiotic self. Actually it is amazing that it made it through the small intestine, because it is much narrower, and way longer than the large one.

Fortunately it was Hannie's so there was no severe punishment.

Jon's face looks so puffy and red. Maybe too much time on the slopes?

phylly3 said...

Jon should have arranged to pick up Nala when the kids were in school. She should not have been picked up by him and all 8 children who were squealing and wanting to see the dog and fighting over who would walk her to the car. Then the recently operated dog got to ride home in a crate inside a van with 8 energetic kids. Once home, after greeting her litter mate, she was turned outside to romp, roll and play bite with her brother while sporting new sutures. Then the dog, who needed rest, was cooped up in a room with 8 squabbling kids and their zoned out father, who defied the vet's instructions.

I like the Gosselin children. I do not love them, but I love dogs. My greatest fear for these dogs is that they will not be neutered but be allowed to breed and provide more puppies either to this family or other similar people who don't look out for their welfare. Because they are registered, that may be their fate.

Enda said...

Did anyone notice that those puppies are only filmed in the basement or the backyard? Are they even allowed in the rest of the house? Who is taking care of them when the rest of the family is upstairs eating, sleeping, posing for the cameras, etc? No wonder Nala ate a toy, they are left to their own devices in the basement for god knows how long every day. In my opinion, that's just as bad as tying them up outside all day and night long.

I also can't believe that Jon would let Nala out to play after surgery. That's just shameful.

Oldfan said...

I have officially stopped watching the show. Tonight. I wondered if anyone felt the same, and lo and behold I found this blog. The fake tan, isolated mansion, more and more condescending remarks about random people who make guest appearances (she was so rude to the train conductor on one of the recent episodes), and just an overall tone of snobbery and entitlement have completely turned me off from the show. Kate doesn't even seem like the same person. She acts like a celebrity. I noticed the overall tone of the show seemed less happy recently but I couldn't quite pin point why. I originally liked watching the show because it was good, clean fun. But now...nothing on the show sits right anymore. Everything is staged. I bet the parents don't even like doing the show but they feel trapped because it is their livlihood. I fear their kids will have no concept of "reality" because their reality...IS FAKE! That has got to be so confusing for a kid! You take your kids on so many vacations and outings...they won't be able to truly appreciate any of them because you are on a constant field trip. Terrible. As parents how could you not see the danger in this? And kate says that the show is a family decision and they will continue on for the best of their family...like it is some sacrifce for them? Come on. The real reason is they get too many perks to give up the show. They are becoming more and more unsympathetic. I don't know what to think of them. My opinion is Kate is over her head and money and fame has distorted her worldview, even though she claims her family is most important and she doesn't care at all what other people think. Others recognize our faults before we are willing to see them. Real growth comes from recognizing your faults and asking yourself, is there any truth to what all these strangers clearly see coming out of their televisions every week?

Laurie said...

You can't say the woman doesn't feed her kids. Wow, they eat nice nutrious meals.

I'm impressed.

Deb said...

A few thoughts-

Children shouldn't be cleaning up dog messes. That urine was soaking through the papertowel and how do we know she washed her hands?? I would NEVER have my small children cleaning up my dog messes.

I thought the complaining about the laundry room was obnoxious. Hey guess what, Kate? I use the coin-op in the hallway that all the apartments share! We only get one crappy, rusted, small washer to share between 5 families... but I'm sure we'll turn it into a sun room sometime soon. *rolls eyes*

Jon was clearly hung over in this episode.

Can someone tell me how hard boiled eggs, Trix yogurt (I could see the blurred out label) and some crackers with a slap of hummus is a great lunch? Good lord those kids eat more crackers than anyone I know. What about something that can stick with you for awhile?

Letting your dog run around after having surgery, dumb. Jon saying he won't do anything because they "missed each other soo much" and then did stupid kissy faces of them tonguing each other- dumber.

Duckman said...

Any remaining pretense to this show being a documentary just evaporated with this episode.

The time-shifting that occurs in this episode is similar to what I've seen in a few Battlestar Galactica episodes. Documentaries aren't supposed to jump around in time to the degree that scripted shows do.

Ironically, Battlestar Galactica's cinematography is done in a documentary style.

BGR said...

One thing I notice is that the Gosselins are sure not an environmentally conscious family. All those paper plates (still) and no attempt at washing out and recycling the yogurt containers. Guess they forgot about Sara Snow.

BGR said...

Where in London Gidget? I live close by and would like to contact the organizers. It is not mentioned at the venue which normally hosts these kinds of events.

shelbysmom said...

I love how on Oprah Kate says she gets up every morning at 5:30am to work out. Did she not say on her own show that she makes the kids go back to bed in the morning until the sun comes up in a certain window. She does this because her bedroom is under theirs and they make lots of noise. Does she work out and then go back to bed or is just flat out lying.

Heidi said...

I did not watch but I wanted to remark about some posters saying the tups were not wearing jackets. I live in the Northeast. We have had a weird winter this year. It was either really warm or we would get pounded with snow. So they might not have been wearing jackets because of that fact. There were days in February when we only had to wear a light sweater on top of our clothing. Not defending them, just saying the timeline is probably right..just a wacky Mother Nature this season.

kelly s said...

Susan said...
I never thought I would see the day when the "little girls" would have their hair up and out of their faces!! They were like that on Oprah today and on tonights episode. Have the parents finally gotten around to caring for the girls hair or do they have someone doing their hair now?!?!? They look like totally different kids.

I can't stand the way Kate always says "MY". "My laundry room", "My house", "My new blah, blah blah". She NEVER says our new house, our laundry room, etc. It's as if Jon and the children do not exsist.

Susan, I totally agree and thought the same thing too. It is always "my,my,my" I thought this house etc was for the kids. I could never imagine my mother saying sh** like that when i was growing up. And what was up with Kates snotty a** look as she was discussing the laundry room etc. That woman needs to get that sh** smirk slapped right off her face. She is getting worse and worse with her prima donna act.

I wish someone would go to these so called "business trip" speaking enagements, and when it comes down to asking questions, put her on the spot and make a total ass out of her.

flareinigs said...

My boston terrier named "marble" swallowed one of my kids "marbles" (I know the irony is unbelievable) last July. Our beloved dog was throwing up for 24 hours and I rushed her to the vet. After the x ray showed something large and round in her intestine, we opted for emergency surgery. The cost of the surgery was $1,500.00. My dog marble, like the gosselins' dog had to have major surgery on her intestine, and that included having a set of sutures not only on her outside but on the inside too. WHERE IN THE HECK IS THE collar (lamp shade) that most vets insist the animal wear for 7 to 10 days? My poor pet was deathly and I mean that literally sick for 5 days after surgery. 3 days she was kept in the intensive care of the vets office, and when I finally got her home on the third day, she laid in the same spot for hours on end. I am wondering if their dog was kept at the vet's office for 7 to 10 days, (the length the collar would be on), and therefore most of the healing took place in the vet's office. I don't know. My mind is blown away that Jon would allow the dog to go outside in the dirt and run and play right after that kind of major surgery.

Kelli said...

I was really going to give them a chance and not assume that they would be bad dog owners just because people don't like them. But after last night's episode, I think the dogs need to go. First I think the kids are too undisciplined to properly handle live pets. Second, the dogs (which aren't dogs, they're puppies, meaning BABIES) need more nurturing, guidance, and training - more hands on. Letting them run all over a big property is not being an owner. The puppies need to be taught commands and how to interact with the very young children in the house. They are already bigger, on hind legs, than the tups. When full grown (which will happen inside of 12 months) they will be eye to eye with Jon on hind legs. They must be taught now how to "be" with people so that they don't hurt the kids - not out of malice, but because they don't know any better.

I was disturbed that Nahla was allowed to be sick long enough to lose weight before her owners took her to a vet. I was disturbed that they didn't explain to the children to pick up their toys so that the puppies don't get hurt - not just joke about it. I was disturbed that Jon took all 8 children to pick up the dog, when the dog just had surgery. And I was MOST disturbed that Jon flat out ignored the doctor's orders about how the dog should be cared for post-op. He is the adult and the owner. He is not to defer to the wishes of the puppy or even the children if it goes against doctor's orders. Nahla should have been crated and kept inside for 2 weeks. If that means that she sleeps with Kon so that the kids don't get to her, so be it.

I am a dog person and a former rescue person. The actions above are disturbing but what seals it for me is that they don't seem to know or care that they acted incorrectly and thus won't change or improve their behavior. The breeder needs to step in NOW.

OhioMom53 said...

I must admit I didn't make it through the dog episode, I taped it and will watch later. I did, however, see them on Oprah and noticed how perfect the clan was. Everyone in their place. Mady looked miserable, but the one thing I noticed was Aiden. Aiden at one point was sucking his thumb and had a small blankie or something he was holding. I have never seen Aiden suck his thumb and he is now at the age where he shouldn't be sucking his thumb. I also noticed Jon grimacing when Kate had her advice for the octomom when she mentioned money... Hannah was in between them but J&K were about as far apart as a canyon. I did see Cara and I think Alexis kissing each other on the couch, but before Cara corrected Alexis when she said something. Season 5.... hopefully it will be the final season.

Crystal said...

This episode was disturbing on so many levels. I feel so sorry for those dogs. But the thing that disturbed me the most was Jonboy leaving Alexis in the van. Thank God it was winter and not the middle of August. I know he realized it within 5 minutes or so, but still.

Crystal said...

And another thing...I have always questioned the kind of meals KON, specifically Kate, gives these children. I sometimes wonder if Kate gives them really light lunches (e.g. crackers, cheese, grapes) because she doesn't want her children to be overweight?? Which I can understand the importance of that for health reasons. But kids need nutritious foods, not bird food. I think she is pushing her dieting habits on these kids, which is sick if that is the case. Besides putting restrictions on what they are allowed to eat or allowing some but not others to eat certain foods only increases the chances that they will have an eating disorder. What do you think will happen when these kids are old enough to buy the things they want. Plus everyone's appetites and metabolism are different. I just hope she is not like this when the boys reach adolescence, otherwise they will be starving. I also think that these lunches they show on camera are also staged and that the real lunch the nanny/chef prepared was given 30 minutes prior to that.

Crystal said...

jonandkatewho? said...
Jon said the "alpha female" thing more than once. It just made me sick to hear him trying to act like he knows all about dogs when clearly he does not. I was actually almost embarassed for him, he sounded so idiotic. I have a female dog who is an alpha, so I know a little bit about that.
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I actually think Jon does have extensive knowledge about alpha females. I mean have you seen his wife?? ;)

2cutekids said...

It became obvious to many here that the dogs are mearly props - just like the kids, for the show.

Anything for drama and discussion for the ratings and here we are talking about it.

Skippy JON said...

ok In this episode Kate already was talking about the dogs in past tense. i really think they give these dogs up. You can already tell in the shows she doesnt like them.Yet she HAD to pick out thenamesn adn the dogs.. now she wants nothing to do with them and wont even clean up after them.Jon or the kids DO @@. Its also sad how she doesnt even want her kids around her. She talked about how they all migrate to the kitchen and it aggrivates her.

tallblonde said...

Oldfan said: My opinion is Kate is over her head and money and fame has distorted her worldview, even though she claims her family is most important and she doesn't care at all what other people think.
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OF COURSE her family is most important - they're the only income-stream that family has!

Most of all, I want Kate to follow thru with yet another threat last night to return the dogs if the kids don't take care of them. Please do, Kate - the sooner you do - the quicker the puppies can go to a good home and out of your Katedom.

MirandaB2008 said...

in response to the poster mentioning about her own dog Marbles and how deathly ill she had been. etc?

I was thinking too that the Vet probably kept the dog for a long enough time period After surgery to ensure that significant Healing had taken place before allowing it to 'go back to the Nut House' ......Things are stressful enough for a Healthy animal in those surroundings with children mauling around them all the time, much less a dog that needs special care. And obviously, by watching the Show? it was apparent that THAT did not Happen did it ..... :o( makes me shake my head to be honest.

Narcissism Please said...

i know this is a bit late on the draw, but does anyone know where i can see yesterday's oprah?

ive googled til my eyes are popping ..but alas, no dice.

konspiracytheory said...

SuzanneDeAZ said:

The saying is:

"You get what you get and do not throw a fit".

Many parents say that when they hand out things. Just cause you do not give your child a choice in a flavor of yogert does not mean they have no freedom of choice.

It gets tiring when you have a group of kids and you have to wait and hear their choice each time something is dished out, so many parents just give out and when the kids complain they give that cute saying.

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I'm sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I think that's a wonderful opportunity for the kids to a) express their individuality, and b) learn conflict resolution (b/c of course it's not always possible to have the right amount of the right flavors in stock). I do this with my kids, but here's the catch: it takes some effort.

Maybe it would "get tiring" for KON if they ever tried it, but this is what they signed up for when they played fertility roulette and (in Kate's own words) "lost".

anne123 said...

So Kate tells one of the kids he's becoming a little OCDish (don't remember the word she used) Wonder where he learned that behavior?!?

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