Slopes, Sleds, and Sesame Recap

Gulp! I sure am nervous! Since I last watched they've moved into a huge house they deserve, got two puppies they deserve, and Kate has gotten the faux tan she deserves!

Submitted by Moons in Leo

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Anonymous said...

Hi everybody:

Guess I'm going to join in on the piling on. I got her book for Christmas. You should have seen the nasty things she wrote about those evil souls who dared help she and Jon when the sextuplets were newborns. They were always in the way, annoying her. The nerve of them wanting to help! She was so glad to be rid of them. The book contained several references to people trying to help who annoyed her. The book made me furious. Jon has turned into her 9th child. When on one episode he said words to the effect of "I better listen to her. I don't want to get into trouble." Are you kidding me? Jon, go back to work. Get some fulfillment. She gets worse and worse. They need to shut down production until they get some kind of counseling - marriage, but also to deal with all that life has thrown at them in the last few years - infertility, sextuplets, fame. I'd hate to see them split up.

Anne said...

To Karen0101

I just have to put my 2 cents in about temper tantrums. My children are now 20 and 18. When they were younger, they NEVER threw a tantrum. Not when they were two and not when they were four. It just never happened. They knew how to act and wonderful children. And I am proud of that.
Especially when I see neices or nephews or even kids being exploited on tv.

Barbara said...

Dad said no. Mom said no. My sister kept persisting. Dad said no again. Mom said no again. My sister decided to push the boundaries and started to throw a tantrum.

Dad said if she kept that up, she was going to go to the car. Of course Sis wanted to see how much she could get away with. So, after a half a minute more of it, Dad picked her up and took the car, just like he promised he would. He put her in her car seat and let her whine and thrash about until she was finished. Mom and I finished the shopping.

Even though my sister was sullen for a while afterwards, she and I learned a big lesson that day. Whining and thrashing won't get us what we wanted.
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This is exactly what I have done with my children. They are now 23 and 17 and have had one tantrum in their lives. It was handled in just that way. They never did it again. They also know that when I say something I mean it. No idle threats. No, "if you don't do this, I'll take the puppies back." Children are sponges. They soak everything up, good and bad and their behavior reflects that.

I finally gave up on this show after this last show. My husband came in the room as I was watching it and asked what we were doing this weekend. I told him I didn't know and he said he was going to go help one of the guys that used to work for him move out of his house because he was losing it. My husband works for a one of the major auto manufacturers and this guy was let go during the last go round of layoffs. That truly hit home for me. Here are these 2 schlubs with no "real" income, living high on the hog and with all of the people out there that are truly struggling, I just can't sit there and listen to them whine about how "hard" their life is. Bah.

Yes, the kids are cute, but the show is not about them anymore. I teach martial arts to 4 and 5 year olds 4 times a week so I get my cuteness factor filled fairly often.

They need to take some of their "love offerings" and buy a clue.

JJ said...

I am surprised at the amount of people thinking this "it's all leading up to this" will have J+K referring to their marriage at all.

I don't think they'll admit to anything at all. Not that they're struggling in marriage, not that Kate's away a lot (I don't think they'd ever admit that she's gone too often!!)

It's probably going to be something stupid like Kate saying "I've learned a lot from this show and I think I'm going to try and be less demanding of Jon." or something, and Jon saying that being more involved with the kids is getting hard as they're growing up, or that comment will have been referring to something entirely different. Like talking about how difficult it is for him to make lunches for all the kids when Kate is away.

Or something really vague like that.

Almost like goals and resolutions for the next season or things they're going to improve on. I can't even IMAGINE that they'd say anything more revealing or personal than that.

Holly said...

Going to see Kate speak here in Roswell,GA tonight. Jon was supposed to come too, but canceled about three weeks ago.

Konzilla said...

HOLLY, Please please take notes or a picture or something and report back as soon as you can. I am so curious as to what she has to say, but I bet she will stick to her script. Thanks.

Richard Tolbert said...

Let me repeat, they will NEVER announce that their marriage is in trouble. EVER!

The Gosselins are and will forever be the Greedlins.

my9cats said...

Somewhere on one of the blogs (can't remember which, it was a while ago) someone who was at the Globetrotters game said KON was boo'd because there were special needs children as guests and they were not invited on the court, yet KON was. This was written before the show was announced so I have no reason to doubt the story. Perhaps another reader could provide more detail.

Rach said...

Anonymomma,

I'm in college and would be perfectly fine with having my childhood constipation problems exposed on national television to pay my way. In any case, I honestly doubt anyone my age would go so far as to tease someone who was on TV as a child.

ugh said...

I have finally realized what my gripe is with miss Kate: she justifies everything by saying, "well, you would [insert horrific behavior] too if you had 8kids." It's not the 8 kids, it's her! She is just hateful.

You know what, I may not have 8 kids, but I have four who all have very different needs and schedules. They need to be picked up when they are crying or picked up from baseball practice. They need their tears wiped, their homework checked and their hands washed-and I do it, with love every day (not perfectly, but I do okay.)

I have a mother who has been ill for almost 2 years and a father who cannot drive at night even when my mother needs to be rushed to the ER.

I also have friends who need me to babysit, to listen to them when they are angry, upset, hurt, whatever. I will pick them up if their car is in the shop or wait for them while their mammogram results are read.

I have a church that I belong to, not so I can show up on freebie day, but so that I can be fed spiritually and help OTHERS through volunteering my time and giving of our modest income.

I have a job, although I do work at home, that needs my time and attention.

I have a husband whom I thank God for every day. I would never speak to him in private (nor him to me) the way she speaks to hers on national tv.

So, I am glad Kate has given herself a free pass in life; I am through watching and can only hope this circus ends soon.

MomIAm said...

Recently, I saw reruns of some of the older shows, then ended up watching 3 new episodes. I'm done. Kate was rude and mean to her husband and to the children. The kids were whiny and unhappy. I was appalled. A couple weeks before Christmas, I was with my family (4 generations) with 13 young children from 2 months to age 9, most under age 7. We were together for several hours. One child got talked to for being too rough and settled down. One child was over tired and had a short crying spell. We were together several hours. Those were the only incidents. A child may act up from time to time, that is normal. But I can honestly say that I've never seen happy, well-adjusted kids throw constant temper tantrums and cry so much as the Gosselin children.

not just a hatrack said...

Just wanted to add a comment about the whole child-tantrum issue. What is with the parents of today? In general, it seems like parents today are much more doting and concerned with making their children the slightest bit unhappy (IMO). For example, my 4 year old niece and nephew are told not to do something, and then cuddled and held like babies when they cry from being disciplined. They are always ASKED if they want to do something (like eat dinner), not told (which is just the tip of the iceberg).
I guess what I am trying to say is that who cares if your kids cries, screams, tantrums, etc? At least be a responsible parent and teach them that the behavior is inappropriate. Then even when it arises, it will be less frequent and less extreme. In terms of KON, they don't do this, they are not consistent, and there are so many other people raising their kids, these kids have no idea what to believe.
But then again, I am not a parent, so take with a grain of salt...

Old School said...

not just a hat rack,

I am sooo with you on that one. Yes children have feelings that need to be addressed for th right reason....But "consulted" all the time and given to many choices.....Naaahh....

Aunty Anne said...

Dear Ugh!

Honestly, lady, I do wish you lived next door to me. It would be my pleasure to know you.

Oh, that all people cared so much for others. This could be a different world if we all followed your example.

Please don't mistake this for sarcasm, I am very sincere.
Thank you!

Molly B said...

Occasionally posters will write that the Gosselin kids are so smart and so well behaved. What planet recognizes their behavior as well behaved?

I truly believe the tups need language therapy.

Whether or not they are as smart as other kids their age, I don't know.

But I know there are kids that age who do speak much better than the tups.

Looking back at the reruns of when the twins were that age, there is no comparison.

The tups hear each other all day long and must repeat what they hear from one another.

Sometimes twins are said to have their "own language," that other people can't understand.

That must be what the tups are into.

And about tantrums ...
my first son threw tantrums from sun up to sun down. Thankfully, we recognized what was going on and got help with his problems.

The next two kids were very easy going, kind and sweet little boys.

lc said...

Agree with most of tantrum comments. Once or twice should be enough. It would have been interesting to bring in Super Nanny to see what would happen. Don't know if this has already been said, but I was wondering if K's "tan" was from a pill, especially if her palms are also orange. Lately, there have been a lot of comments about sports figures, politicians, etc. and their orange glow. Agree that Jon looked bloated during last preview, hope he's OK. I've always zeroed in on him more during the couch chats, so I noticed his red eyes during the early shows, his fluctuating hairline and his sideways glances, as if he was waiting for the other shoe to drop.

jayley said...

lets bring supernanny in?? more cameras and intrusion, more network tv exploitation... good idea

MomIAm said...

Well, if the show is going to continue perhaps they need supernanny. These kids are neither well behaved nor happy. The constant temper tantrums are to gain attention. A little more time with mom and dad, with no snippy comments from Kate could turn this family around fast. Supernanny counsels the parents behavior too. She would not put up with Kate's disrespect towards the children or Jon. I would love to see her deal with Kate.

Kate is not a good role model for parenting. She is rude to her family members and self-centered. She is not kind. It may not be Kate and Jon who stopped their friendships with other people. If I had someone in my life like them, it would not be for long.

Most parents I know, try to be consistent. They don't plead with their kids to behave but expect and demand it.

Ms.Peach said...

my9cats said...
Somewhere on one of the blogs (can't remember which, it was a while ago) someone who was at the Globetrotters game said KON was boo'd because there were special needs children as guests and they were not invited on the court, yet KON was. This was written before the show was announced so I have no reason to doubt the story. Perhaps another reader could provide more detail.

I remember that post too. I referred to it on this site and was attacked as a "liar" on a sheeple site. Then I had to laugh because a post on the sheeple site by person in attendance said that the Gosselins were indeed booed although it was a small group but could definitely be heard. I'm sure it was edited out for the show.

Moons in Leo said...

Rach said...
Anonymomma,

I'm in college and would be perfectly fine with having my childhood constipation problems exposed on national television to pay my way.

Really? To pay your way? Do you think the exploitation of the Gosselin children will pay their way? Children do not need to pay their way and if you think there's going to be any money left over for them after their parents get finished spending it, I think you're sadly mistaken.

In any case, I honestly doubt anyone my age would go so far as to tease someone who was on TV as a child.

I would hope so too. However, I think there are a few grade school and high school students who wouldn't hesitate to tease someone who was shown pooping and peeing on national television. Unfortunately all it takes is one untowards remark to scar a child.

areuserious said...

"I'm in college and would be perfectly fine with having my childhood constipation problems exposed on national television to pay my way."

Why sell/expose your child hood pictures as the means to fund your college education? Fom what I hear stripping is a very lucrative occupation for subsidizing the cost of college tuition. Why not exploit the 'system' and remain unemployed and have a few kids out of wed lock; that might get you a 'free ride'to college. Better yet, Girls Gone Wild is always looking for fresh new meat.
Ridiculous!!

Marie_Quile said...

Moons In Leo said...
I would hope so too. However, I think there are a few grade school and high school students who wouldn't hesitate to tease someone who was shown pooping and peeing on national television. Unfortunately all it takes is one untowards remark to scar a child.

*****
So very true.

Kids get teased for
everything nowadays, I can only imagine what Mady and Cara have to go trough.
The tups are going to have one heck of an experience when they get older!

Great recap btw!

didew said...

I was an occasional tantrum thrower as a toddler. My mother passed away long before I had children of my own, so I come by this information through my sister who is 9 years older. I of course would throw said tantrums in front of my mother who would literally step over me. She totally ignored the behavior. Notice I said the behavior, not me. This all came to an end when I threw a tantrum on the hard kitchen floor and promptly bashed my head. I never threw another fit. I have no memories of this, but I must of thought in my young mind it just wasn't worth it. I never got what I wanted from the tantrums, but I had parents who LISTENED to me. So in actuality, I not only got what I wanted, but more importantly, I got what I needed.

The Gosselin children are not getting what they need. Children have a voice that needs and deserves to be heard. J&K have said themselves the kids talking is just white or background noise. I think they suscribe to the outdated adage, "children should be seen (in immaculately clean and mathcing outfits) but not heard".

But what do I know, I only have two kids. I'm probably not ever considered a real mother to Kate. I think in her world you have to have at least 8 to qualify. Until they adopt the 9th, that is. "oh, we had no idea how much HARDER 9 is than 8! I'm so, horrendously, exhausted-ish-ly!"

Thanks to the mods and all the posters on this site. I know I get on the old soap box when I write, and I appreciate the outlet.

Beth said...

areuserious said...
"I'm in college and would be perfectly fine with having my childhood constipation problems exposed on national television to pay my way."

As a legal adult, you have every right to make that decision. Maybe some people feel that way (hey, college is expensive!), and that's ok, but these are very young children who have no say in the matter (despite what KON says...). And, even if they do have some imput, how can 4 and 8-year-olds be expected to understand the situation to the extent that they can make an informed decision that will impact them for so many years to come?

No More Exploitation said...

areuserious said...
"I'm in college and would be perfectly fine with having my childhood constipation problems exposed on national television to pay my way."
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areyouserious,

What about if you later meet the potential love of your life and he decides he just can't handle seeing someone who has let all the details of her life, including her "constipation issues" be aired for all the world to see?

Or what about the potential employer who decides NOT to offer you your dream job because their pre-employment investigation of you revealed your "constipation issues" and all the other details of your live that you aired for all the world to see "to pay your way." These decision to air your life makes them question your ability to make good decisions based on sound judgement while in their employment.

I didn't make this up. It happens when young people put stuff on the internet for all the world to see. It can and will impact your future in ways you may never be aware of, because that potential employer probably will not tell you why they didn't hire you. Paying your way in the short term, may cost you more in the long term.

maylene said...

areyouserious said,

What about if you later meet the potential love of your life and he decides he just can't handle seeing someone who has let all the details of her life, including her "constipation issues" be aired for all the world to see?

Or what about the potential employer who decides NOT to offer you your dream job because their pre-employment investigation of you revealed your "constipation issues" and all the other details of your live that you aired for all the world to see "to pay your way." These decision to air your life makes them question your ability to make good decisions based on sound judgement while in their employment.

I didn't make this up. It happens when young people put stuff on the internet for all the world to see. It can and will impact your future in ways you may never be aware of, because that potential employer probably will not tell you why they didn't hire you. Paying your way in the short term, may cost you more in the long term.


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if he was the "love of your life" and it was true love he would have no problem with it.

i highly doubt you will not get a job if you are a qualified college graduate aged 20+ because there is a video of you being constipated as a toddler.

now if you were say 16, and it was a internet video of you in your bra, and you were applying to be a teacher then ok, maybe then it would affect you.

VDP said...

For those of you who are "proud" of yourselves for having children who NEVER threw tantrums, stop fooling yourselves! If you got lucky enough to have a kid who never threw a tantrum, it's not because of you - it's just the kid's nature. For those of you who are proud because their children only threw one or two tantrums - please, continue doing so, because you obviously must have handled it well.

I have 4 children, and they have all had tantrums at one point or another. I have a daughter who is 3 months younger than the sextuplets, and once in a while she'll still have a meltdown. With her, it's when she's overly tired or not feeling well, and I address the behavior accordingly.

I would imagine with the Gosselin kids there are times when they really are just too overwhelmed to communicate effectively, because they do seem to have a speech delay and there are so many of them to compete with when it comes to being heard. There are times when *I* cry from frustration, so I don't blame a 4 year old for doing it sometimes!

I do agree that in this specific circumstance (with Hannah in the parking lot) the tantrum was inappropriate and should have been addressed, but just in general I can understand why the sextuplets would throw a fit now and then!

jayley said...

...the Gosselin children are not getting what they need.(props to didew) When childrens' needs aren't met by their parents/caretakers, expect attention seeking behaviour. They will do what they need to to get attention. VDP, excellent thoughts also about children being too overwhelmed to communicate effectively.

I wish people would put themselves into a 4 year olds head, and what it must be like to have industrial lighting, people following you around nonstop with cameras in your face during all your most intimate moments. I don't think many adults could handle the pressure, much less someone who has been on this earth less than 5 years. shameful. sorry to be ranting again, the ignorance of the parties involved in this train wreck is unbelievable. anything for a buck i guess...back to my yoga

Aim said...

UGH, you read my mind. I too have four kids and live a life very similar to yours. And what you described in your comment is exactly why she bothers me so much. Thank you for saying it so well. I really can't add anything else.

Anonymomma said...

VDP I beg to differ. I have 5 kids. And at some point they all threw tantrums (my 8 yr old and 14 month old still do). In fact, my youngest screamed her head off for the first three and a half months of her life to the point where I was certain I was going to go insane from it. But it was what it was, which was her nature to cry.I did everything I knew to do to help her but it didn't. One day, poof, she just stopped. And now? She is the happiest friggin toddler in all the land, 90% of the time.

However, if she misses her nap, doesn't sleep enough, or wakes up hungry, look out. It's like the gates of hell are opened and all the fury is unleashed. Her fault? Not technically. She is 14 months old. While she can communicate, she does so on the level of a baby. It's my job to decipher what she needs and anticipate when she is going to need it.

To those out there who have really easy going kids, good for you! You SHOULD take credit. Because not only is nurture, but also nature on your part. If the child is in a loud, rowdy, environment all the time, the child will be exactly that. Kids absolutely take their social cues from their home life. Mady is the perfect example of this. Look at Kate freaking out on the airplane in Idaho. Case in point.

When my youngest was four days old, she was in the midst of a five hour long crying fit. She was a c-section, and her cries landed me on m hands and knees on the living room floor, crying along with her because my muscles would contract with each pitch of her voice. I tried everything to get her to stop, and then I noticed that the more anxious I was, the more she cried. I literally had to calm myself in order to calm her.

All of my girlfriends kids are the emotional equivelant of their parents. One friend is high strung, and so is her son. Another has anxiety issues, and her preschooler does too. Yet another is very easy going and laid back, as well as her husband. All three of her kids are cool as cucumbers.

I firmly believe that the environment the parents provide is as much to credit (or blame) for a child's behavior.

jayley said...

I don't think anyone should blame an infants disposition on the parents. We've experienced the premature infant, the whole c-section thing, learning disabilites and adhd stuff with more than one. While nurture is so very important I totally understand the nature argument. Just do the best you can for your children. Most experts agree the first 3 years are the most important.

debi said...

"Oh, and do they seriously think they're going to suck in a bigger audience next week with their hints at discord in their "happy marriage"? Do they not realize how pathetic it is that people will tune in for that reason alone?"

Yes...and people WILL tune in just for that.

Heather said...

Maybe the "event" will be Kate giving Jon his balls back and he doesn't know what to do with them!!!

LB said...

I finally got a glimpse of last Monday’s episode. They re-ran it the other day and I caught it as I was flipping channels. It had already started and it was when Kate was leaving the house. I’m not 100% certainly she left the door unlocked since they did not show the whole sequence of leaving the house because they cut back and fort so it wasn’t one continuous shot. I’m fairly certain it has a lock that you engage on the back of door. Or the nanny could have stayed behind. Who knows? But I don’t really care about that and it’s kinda pointless to have a discussion about that since you cannot see it from start to end.

I wonder how long Hannah’s tantrum was really….it seemed to me as she didn’t actually start as they were walking away from the van. Otherwise, she would have done something in the beginning like taking her out of the van 1st and explain to her about her behavior. I don’t know. I wasn’t paying attention to the order of children taken of the van. But at the same time, Kate could not have left her there by herself or drag her by her hand when she had her hands full. Maybe she could have had Mady take her. I don’t think that would have been possible. I just can’t see a better solution to that because the parking lot was dark and she had to hold some of the younger children’s hands to cross the parking lot. Beside the fact that Hannah was the one who had a meltdown, I would let it go.

I really wanted to comment on what happened after the Sesame show. I don’t know if anyone noticed it. I got the feeling that the greet & meet may not have been planned in advance because it took place in what is obviously a café of some sort (you see rows of tables & chairs) and the ‘gifts’ were given out in plastic bags that you get from the Chinese take-out or gas station. The plastic bags had ‘thank you thank you thank you’ on side. That was the 2nd red flag. The whole set up was odd, I thought. Sesame is somewhat high-end, right? So why did they meet in the café and had gifts in plastic bags instead of Sesame or specially made bags? One reason about the unusual meeting place was that maybe the other parents did not agree to have their children filmed so they moved it. I’m not from PA and I’ve never been to that place so I don’t know where they normally hold the greet & meet for entertainment events there.

Anne said...

VDP said:

For those of you who are "proud" of yourselves for having children who NEVER threw tantrums, stop fooling yourselves! If you got lucky enough to have a kid who never threw a tantrum, it's not because of you - it's just the kid's nature. For those of you who are proud because their children only threw one or two tantrums - please, continue doing so, because you obviously must have handled it well.

Sorry VDP,

I take full responsibilty for my chldren not having a single tantrum when they were young. It was because of the way they were raised and they way they were treated. (Both very well)

I am not saying they were better than anyone who had tantrums, I am saying there are kids out there that have never had a tantrum and that is not just because of the kids' "nature". But if it makes you feel better to believe that, be my guest.

Carrin said...

Anne said...
I take full responsibilty for my chldren not having a single tantrum when they were young. It was because of the way they were raised and they way they were treated. (Both very well)
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I do believe you Anne. I have something a bit different to say.

Different people have asked me at different times in my life what I did to have such wonderful children.

I truly always say that it was nothing I did. They came that way. I am so thankful, because I wouldn't even know how to raise wonderful children.

Truly, I wouldn't. Sometimes I think they turned out like they did in spite of me, certainly not because of me.

I thank God every day for this.

Anne said...

To Carrin

I have to agree with what you said. I do thank God everyday for how wonderful my kids turned out. The "in spite of me" statement works for me also. We are not perfect.

Sam said...

I'm a recent follower of this site, and a first time poster. I just watched the ep and saw that Kate was feeding Mady popcorn at the Sesame Street show. As someone who had braces in my mid-twenties (like Kate, as she said) I'm surprised she doesn't know popcorn is one of those banned food substances while you've got them! Just a little thing, but with her being as obsessive-ish and controlling as she can be about things, it just seems odd that she'd not only condone Mady eating popcorn, but be the one giving it to her!

Salvaje78 said...

does jane ever smile

Cairen said...

"He uses words like 'really cool' and 'awesome' so that we can almost feel the powdery snow hitting our cheeks as we schuss down the mountain."

HAHA! Too funny. He does kinda talk like a valley girl.

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