Free Discussion 3/28 - 4/3

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SandyW said...

Set your clocks THIS for Saturday March 28th at 8:30 p.m. Join billions who are going to switch off all their lights for one hour.

Jon and Kate can go green or orange or hopefully away. And we can make a dent by collectively giving our good Earth a break for one hour.

P.S. Candlelight makes everyone look younger, prettier, and yes slimmer.

Narcissism Please said...

[i posted this late on the 27th in the 'free discussion' thread, and don't know if anyone saw it .. but am interested if anyone has any information regarding this...]


probably this has been asked a plethora of times already .. and while i try to stay hip to the draw on each thread, i could have very easily missed this, BUT.

how does kate possess the ability to have pictures go byebyes from other's cameras, but apparently jon does not?

because he doesn't have 'handlers' present with him at college hill?
because he's not in a state to be cognizant enough to demand them deleted?


it seems a little contradictory, half-assed, and catched-22ed [yeah, i can make up words, too!] .. to me.


but, what do i know ..?

Deb said...

Blogger Narcissism Please said...

[i posted this late on the 27th in the 'free discussion' thread, and don't know if anyone saw it .. but am interested if anyone has any information regarding this...]


probably this has been asked a plethora of times already .. and while i try to stay hip to the draw on each thread, i could have very easily missed this, BUT.

how does kate possess the ability to have pictures go byebyes from other's cameras, but apparently jon does not?

because he doesn't have 'handlers' present with him at college hill?
because he's not in a state to be cognizant enough to demand them deleted?


it seems a little contradictory, half-assed, and catched-22ed [yeah, i can make up words, too!] .. to me.


but, what do i know ..?

3/27/2009 11:12 PM
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Hi Narcissism Please,

I'm not sure of an instance where Kate had a person's picture of her removed from their camera?

In instances of her speaking engagements, people have taken pictures of her..they are all over the 'net.

Jon's pictures taken at college bars were ones he posed for...they're not exactly candid shots that he had no clue were being taken.

He seemed quite inebriated in most of those pictures...and didn't mind posing with those young women. I'm sure he didn't expect them to fall in his wife's hands...but then again, maybe he didn't care?

I'm sure if Kate was hitting the bars and drunk while posing with young men, they'd hit the internet too. It's just it's hard for her because men usually run the other way when they see her...

Liars! said...

I havnt watched this trainwreck in months but I did catch a quick snippet recently and watched 90 seconds, literally. In that 30 second clip, Kate lied, twice, blatantly. It was an episode that had them returning to the hospital, etc. Apparently when they took the kids out of the hospital they set up home in a hotel or condo that was provided for them. Cribs were given to them and set up for them when they arived. In reflecting Kate made the remark that they hadnt even thought about cribs and didnt even have a back up plan?

really?

You started a website the day before the kids were even born and among the items you blatantly asked for, besides cash, were cribs!

She also whined about how this was the first time that they were alone to take care of the kids, then in the same breath describing the dozens of volunteers that came in to help them. not thanking them but complaining about the crowds and commotion!

Kate, you reap what you sow.

my9cats said...

What I want to know is what right does she or her entourage have to demand and force someone to delete pictures from their cameras. Especially when the pix are of the camera owners own children.
This idiot has evolved from a moron to a megalomaniac.What would her sheeple think if she did it to them? Oh wait. They'd give her the damn camera because she has eight..yes EIGHT shilldren and is poor. Ingrate Kate's actions and words create her own misery. Get off the air, get over yourself and be a mother to your kids.

Four said...

I really wonder about the legal issues of being asked to delete a picture from a camera. If I were in a public place taking pics of MY family members then I fail to see how someone accidentally caught in the background can demand that it be deleted. Is it pure intimidation tactics? My gut reaction would be to get management or the police involved before I let anyone tell me what I can and cannot snap in a public place.

Anna said...

Oh dear. I was just on the TLC website, and I saw a banner that read "know a family that should be on TV? Tell us why!" with pictures of the Gosselins, Duggars, and that new family. Clearly TLC is trying to expand this trend.

...Amy... said...

Narcissism Please said...

probably this has been asked a plethora of times already .. and while i try to stay hip to the draw on each thread, i could have very easily missed this, BUT.

how does kate possess the ability to have pictures go byebyes from other's cameras, but apparently jon does not?



OK, did I miss something? When has Kate demanded candid photos of her disappear? Inquiring minds (well, at least mine!) would like to hear details of these instances, please! :o)

Why r they still 2gether? said...

My opinion is that Kate is very
controlling and surrrounds herself with people she can control-
Jon is more a regular guy- doesn't
want to cause a scene and so
these type of people are not necessary for him-
Unless Kate tells him they are necessary!!

bajovane said...

I don't know how Kate would have the ability to demand photo deletion from others cameras if they are taking in a public place (i.e., grocery store) but when she is at an official "showing" then yes, I can see that sort of control over whether or not photos can be taken at whatever price.

Jon wasn't at anything official, he was on his own, so therefore there wasn't any expectation of "privacy".

Tangerine Tanya said...

Narcissism Please that is a very good question. My thoughts are that just as Kate demands certain things of Jon and her children so she she demands the same thing of the cameras. She is a control freak after all.

As for Jon well he is so passive/aggressive. We see him cower down when it comes to Kate and use's his authority(well sometimes) when it comes to his kids. So what does one expect?

We all make talk of Kate's bazaar personality yet Jon is viewed as the verbally battered husband. As Dr.Phil said "We teach people how to treat us" It it obvious that if Jon really and truly didn't like the way that Kate lashes out to him like she does in public and probably even more so in private that he would take a stance.

If he takes all of the abuse that Kate dishes out to him then I think that he just plain is not assertative enough to speak up for himself in other situations.

Although Jon is very hands on with his children he still has the mentality of a high school boy or gets some sort of gratification out of someone treating him in such a fashion.

Just my opinion.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Why would the show not return if it's a ratings success and Katie Irene is making bucket-loads of money? Oh, because the children should come first. Gimme a break, these 2 losers do not care for their kids' privacy. I have to admit at times I do feel bad for Jon. Can you really imagine being married to that she-dog. I can't think of anything worse. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment!!!

Its A Good Thing said...

I check their house listing to see if they have dropped the price or what not every once in a while and when I checked today it wasn't there anymore. I wonder if they sold it or if they just took it off the internet data base for some reason....?

carolyn said...

OK, did I miss something? When has Kate demanded candid photos of her disappear? Inquiring minds (well, at least mine!) would like to hear details of these instances, please! :o)

Posters on another thread here, I think it is in Family outing post shared their experiences. Once at the Please Touch Museum and at Disney

lindahoyt said...

Kate is going to be CULTURING the people of Michigan!


Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Frauenthal Center presents Kate Gosselin “Multiple Blessings: Surviving to Thriving with Twins and Sextuplets”
Frauenthal Theater 7:30 pm Tickets: $100.00 Gold Circle Seating (includes pre-show Meet & Greet and a copy of Kate’s book); $45.00, $40.00, $35.00 Reserved Seating; $20.00 Children 12 & Under (limited quantity, not valid for Gold Circle Seating). First 500 Show Tickets purchased (excluding Gold Circle) include after-performance book signing. On Sale beginning February 20, 2009 at 11 am. Star Tickets 1-800-585-3737 or Frauenthal Box Office: M-F 11am-6pm

Kate Gosselin the star of TV's favorite family show and the author of Multiple Blessings, shares the gripping details of her rollercoaster ride of emotional highs and lows when she discovered she and her husband, Jon, would be expecting sextuplets while still basking in the light of their twin girls' toddlerhood. After suffering the long and winding road of infertility, the young couple felt stressed but blessed as they fought valiantly to help their babies survive the fight for their lives.
Living moment to moment, not knowing what each new day would bring, the Gosselins survived on little sleep, little money, and emotional reserves. Yet, as the months progressed and the babies developed, they began looking forward to a brighter and brighter future as a large family. Although life was hectic and cramped, miracles unfolded around the family, and they grew closer and stronger with each passing day.
The Gosselin family is a role model of support and perseverance in spite of any problems thrown their way. Sharing her tips for getting through each day successfully and organizing your life so you can live it to the fullest, Kate Gosselin helps her audiences understand how to juggle the most stressful of days but still come out feeling successful and blessed.
The Gosselin’s new book, Eight Little Faces, is due in bookstores Spring 2009.
Don’t miss this extraordinary opportunity to see Kate Gosselin on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 7:30 pm

KWXZ-TV said...

Phony hypocrites KON + 8 celebrate Earth Day

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not only have they used paper plates for the tups 4.5 years, but they DOUBLE UP them!

5th season up in the air?! HA! I say again. Too bad Emeril Lagasse already spilled the beans on his Twitter stating he went to the KONpound to tape the show's (((100th))) episode. If you look at the total number of eppys at the season 4 season finale and the fact that Emeril was there at #100, how else could their NOT be a season 5! Liars!

http://i42.tinypic.com/2rwotfq.jpg

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/03/more-jon-kate-plus-8-o n-the-way.html

Aubree in Illinois said...

Many of you have asked about the "deleting of photos"---I am copying and pasting the original post from the outings post--hope this helps...here it is:

Mom Barb said...

We were at the Please Touch Museum when they were filming this episode. My daughter was playing at the water table alongside several of the Gosselin kids. I took a picture of her playing and happened to catch Kate in the photo. Kate saw me take the photograph and angrily told one of the producers that "she just took my picture." He came storming over to me and made me delete the photograph from my camera - he wouldn't move until he saw that it had been deleted. He proceeded to give me an "autographed" - copied - picture of the family as a token. We also encountered Kate and the kids in other areas of the Museum. She didn't interact with her kids at all, unless the cameras were rolling. Each of the kids appeared to have handlers. Kate simply stood around smugly and barked orders at everyone. The show is such a lie. She simply does it for the cameras and the money.

3/26/2009 11:24 AM

It never ends said...

Camera Incident

Jon & Kate took Mady & Cara to Disney World this past October. It was a work/twins' birthday thing. Someone took a picture - not sure if Gosselins were in background or intended target of picture. Jon & Kate's bodyguard asked the person to delete it and the person complied. This was not during their official appearance, just out and about Disney World.

Just Moved said...

Its A Good Thing said...
I check their house listing to see if they have dropped the price or what not every once in a while and when I checked today it wasn't there anymore. I wonder if they sold it or if they just took it off the internet data base for some reason....?"


I just checked and it appears on Realtor.Com and has been reduced to $325,000 still overpriced for the area. Crazy Kate - not in any hurry to sell it or it would have been reduced more. When you look at some of the other listings in that area near their price you can see that their home should go below $300,000.

Kathy D said...

OpenID lindahoyt said...

Kate is going to be CULTURING the people of Michigan!


Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Frauenthal Center ...

After suffering the long and winding road of infertility, the young couple felt stressed but blessed as they fought valiantly to help their babies survive the fight for their lives.

3/28/2009 8:11 AM

What "long and winding road of infertility" did they suffer???

I find it quite IRONIC (ok, not really!) that a couple would go to LA and dine in paparazzi havens in an attempt to work on their marriage.

Insomniac said...

After all these years of seeing J&K I finally realized who they remind me of: The Captain and Tenille! She's the largemouth blonde in charge and he's the silent husband. Can you say Muskrat Love?

(Thanks to TMZ's 'memba them?' feature.)

Sable said...

Re Mom Barb's visit to the Please Touch Museum. She took a picture of her daughter and got Kate in the picture. A producer demanded she delete the picture. My question is...can they do this? What if Mom Barb had said no, I am taking pictures of MY daughter? Could they force her to delete the picture?

Kate has a big fat nerve to think she is someone special. She makes me sick.

pinkdiamond611 said...

Do not be bullied by the Kons! Unless where you are, such as a theater specifically says "No Photographs", it is within your Bill of Rights Protection that you can take a photograph of whatever you wish. Furthermore, since the Kons are public figures, they don't have anything to say about you taking their picture.
There have been court cases to decide this.

Kath in MI said...

Lindahoyt

It's interesting that her MI engagements are all on the west side of the state and not in the Metro Detroit area(maybe she has been here and it was a non-issue). In the Detroit area she'd probably be killed and eaten....that's IF they managed to sell enough tickets to make it worth her while.

so irritated said...

Liars! said... "In reflecting Kate made the remark that they hadnt even thought about cribs and didnt even have a back up plan?

really?

....You started a website the day before the kids were even born and among the items you blatantly asked for, besides cash, were cribs!"


Actually, the website was started months before the tups were born. The website is the actual reason Jon was fired from the job he had while Kate was pg with the tups. While they have made lots of $$$ crying to the sheeple that Jon's big mean employer fired him because of not wanting to insure his large family, in reality, Jon was cultivating his website of gimmees and contacting companies for freebies on work time. Understandably, his employer was not down with this.

Speaking of lying, what happened to the "family meetings" where everyone sits down and has input on whether to do another season? Jon apparently does not want to do another season and Kate's response is "whatever bitch-too bad." Can these two not keep any lie straight?

Lastly, I am intrigued by the thread started at the end of last week's free discussion that is continuing on this one. We have two conflicting stories on how the filming was done at Please Touch museum. Someone claimed they took a pic of their child and a Gosselin Goon had them delete it, thinking QFI was in the shot. As soon as the legalities of being made to delete a photo in a public place came up, a post suddenly came in saying the museum was "technically" closed for the day for filming making it private (which I guess makes coerced photo deletion legal) but a few commoners were let in to make it look like it wasn't really shut down for the Royal Family of County Berk. Could this be from one of their PR (that's public relations) people trying to explain away a potential crime? Hmmmm....

I'm just sayin said...

Mom Barb,

Thank you for the info. I can't
believe it. Oh wait....Yes I can.
What a very sorry excuse Kate is for a mother/wife.Uggggghhhh

one_lovable_cutiepie said...

I was on youtube today watching B-ball and more eps. When Mz Diva was getting ready for the big O interview she was shopping for her Fav things. I was very intrested to see that Katie has been doing more than running it look. Her Arms are look more define. You would think she would look like that before 4 years. Specially with all the tups.

It makes me wonder how many Hannie reps and sets do you have to put in the day to get her arms? lol

this clip is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgvoh0Wo1E

Wynema said...

Mom Barb,
Is there a law prohibiting one from taking a pic of anybody w/out their consent? If not then I would have told the person demanding me to delete it to "step back"

When he handed me a picture of Kate I would have promply torn it up and toss it on the ground.

Waiting said...

Kate doesn't seem to realize that all her BS is going to hit her in the face.....

Miss Brown Betti said...

Kate talking to the camera/production crew:

Kate-"Okay tell me when to pretend to be interested in my kids"

Mom of 3 not so icky boys said...

When my sons (21,24,26 y/o) walk past the telivision when J/K 8 is on they always say "That woman is such a bitch to her husband" Normally I would put my boys in check for saying the word bitch in front of their mom but I think they heard ME call Kate that name sooooo.......

DeeB said...

Well, I'm glad I was not the person who was asked to delete a picture of Kate from my phone or camera. I suppose they would have had to drag me off to jail or whatever their plan was other than nasty intimidation. On the other hand I wish they would give me an autographed picture of her. I would love to rip it to shreds right under her nose. If it had the rest of the family in it, I would have just torn her part out and inserted an orange stick figure.

Gosh, I just got way off with my own little fantasy didn't I.... Sometimes she brings out the worst in me. I just feel so sorry for all the children.

Living this way is all they've ever known so they will think it is normal. It has always been interesting to me how children absolutely adore parents who are less than interested in them. I've seen this before. It is just all so sickening, but sad.

What Friggin' Nerve said...

If, God forbid, I was in the place of the woman who took the picture at the museum and was then faced with the Gosselin Goon demanding I delete the picture or he wouldn't move, I have to tell you we would both still be standing there. As a lawyer, I am stubborn by training and by nature, and it would indeed be a stand-off. The museum, itself, would have to call the police and have me charged and taken away -- and even then I guarantee you I'd still have that picture of my daughter. Additionally, that picture and the story would be on the front page of any local newspapers who were willing to print it the following morning.

Kath in MI said...

Just watched the BBall Youtube clip...now that I've found the re-caps, I agree, it's much more entertaining to watch the re-runs while thinking about the comments here, haha!

If Kate were to hook up with What Not To Wear, I think they'd tell her fine, you've just bought the entire Ann Taylor spring line so you're a walking Ann Taylor ad.

Now here's a $5000 shopping card(aha! that's what the high five was about!) now go shopping and create outfits yourself so your true style can come out!

Iwillphotographyournanny said...

You can photograph anyone you want in public place. You may not be popular for doing so, but there is NOTHING illegal about it.

A bodyguard can't force you to erase it.

imjusttoogoodforyou said...

Someone wondered why Kate wouldn't help out a school.

It's simple, She doesn't speak to anyone at the school. She ignores all the parents.

Draw your own conclusions as to why.

L said...

This might have been mentioned before, but doesn't it seem like they're trying to start a "catch phrase". When they keep saying the "you get what you get and don't get upset" I thought it was cute the first time, but kate said it again at the museum. I would say it's just something the family does, but obviously everything the do is for a $$reason$$

SpeechlessInCanada said...

Fans of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" will get to see more of their favorite multiples on TLC soon.

The show about parents Jon and Kate Gosselin raising their twins and sextuplets has pre-taped a few original episodes that will air later this year, reports EW.com.

On Sunday, April 19 an hour-long special featuring the Gosselins going green will air in advance of Earth Day. Other episodes will air this summer.

A fifth season, however, is still up in the air.

The finale of the "Jon & Kate's" fourth season on March 23 scored the highest ratings for TLC ever, drawing 4.6 million viewers. Obviously the network and audience would like to see more of the Gosselins, but the subject of returning isn't so simple.

Check out the "Jon & Kate Plus 8" family photos.

Ever since stories of Jon Gosselin partying and drinking with co-eds while he was away from his family began circulating, the family has been under even greater scrutiny, with divorce rumors flying. If the parents of America's favorite large family split, what will happen to the kids?

In the finale, neither Jon's shenanigans nor divorce are addressed, but the interview portion makes clear that the patriarch of the family has had enough of the spotlight and being recognized when he's out and about.

"We don't have privacy at all," says Jon in the finale. "When I go out, people photograph me. It's tough for me. I can't just be Jon; I have to be 'Jon & Kate Plus 8,' which is a really hard thing for me. I'm still coming to grips with that."

Reading news said...

imjusttoogoodforyou said...
"Someone wondered why Kate wouldn't help out a school.

It's simple, She doesn't speak to anyone at the school. She ignores all the parents.

Draw your own conclusions as to why."

She also does not speak to others at her church. Now who attends church to be "alone" I have a friend who came face to face with her in the ladies room at church and Kate lowered her eyes to avoid any social interaction.

jen said...

I cannot believe you were forced to delete a photo of your kid. If I were in that position, I would be like "Hell no. I am taking pictures of my child and you just happen to be in the background, get over yourself."

Kate is unreal.

BAC said...

I just checked and it appears on Realtor.Com and has been reduced to $325,000 still overpriced for the area. Crazy Kate - not in any hurry to sell it or it would have been reduced more. When you look at some of the other listings in that area near their price you can see that their home should go below $300,000.

I think it is great that it is still on the market and some nutty fan did not buy it right away like I am sure KON thought would happen.

Jupiter said...

I can honestly say that I would not have compiled with the request unless I was asked NICELY but Kate herself. If she approached me and said "Can I ask you a favor? I am so sorry to ask but could you retake that photo without me in it? I really don't want random photos of me floating around. I hope you understand. If you want, I could take a picture of you and your daughter together for you?"....

Then I would delete it for her. Since there is a snowballs chance in hell that she would ever do that, I would just refuse. To the "guard" I would just say "No, I took a picture of my child and I ma not deleting it" and put my camera in my purse. What could they do? Seriously- what? If they kept pestering me I would pull my my cell phone and tell them I would call the police if they did not stop harassing me. That would make for some GREAT PR.

Anonymomma said...

SandyW said...
Set your clocks THIS for Saturday March 28th at 8:30 p.m. Join billions who are going to switch off all their lights for one hour.

Jon and Kate can go green or orange or hopefully away. And we can make a dent by collectively giving our good Earth a break for one hour.

P.S. Candlelight makes everyone look younger, prettier, and yes slimmer.


----------------------

I'm in :) Scrabble by candlelight tonight at my house!

Jodie said...

Mom of 3 not so icky boys said...
When my sons (21,24,26 y/o) walk past the telivision when J/K 8 is on they always say "That woman is such a bitch to her husband" Normally I would put my boys in check for saying the word bitch in front of their mom but I think they heard ME call Kate that name sooooo.......

3/28/2009 9:53 AM

_______________________________


That is too funny!! I was visiting my parents a while ago and my three younger brothers (26, 25 and 21) came in while my mom and I were watching an episode. My mom is still a sheeple and I've been trying to get her to read GWOP for over a year. My brothers immediately started calling Kate a bitch and brought up cupcakegate, gumgate, Joel on the laundry room floor, making fun of Jon's thinning hair and expanding waistline, the product placement and the sign Mady made about no cameras. My mom, who usually never swears, finally said we were right...she is a bitch! I can now say I've officially converted a sheeple!! Ha, ha....and I never even knew my brothers knew about the show, since they are all single, but it's water cooler gossip where they all work. Maybe America is starting to see the light about this couple.

Lisa K said...

No way would I have deleted my families photos because of some nut in the background..I would have chopped her out of it as soon as I got home anyway.What is wrong with her, she acts like she is some A- list celebrity when she obviously is not even on the D-list.

right on truthteller said...

has anyone else seen these truth teller videos? they are so true and funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4B1XZYUIfI

me said...

Knock Knock Joke

Me 2 Kate- Knock Knock
Kate- Who's there?
Me 2 Kate- Orange
Kate- Orange who?
Me- Orange you glad your tan is
ORANGE?

Sorry....tacky and imature
but what the hey

Tangerine Tanya said...

I would love to see Kate break out in the Church Lady dance as seen on SNL Church Chat.

Narcissism Please said...

first off .. thanks everyone for your thoughts on my post.

i do, now, realize i may have been a bit rash in my thinking on account of jon wasn't formally being filmed for the show and therefore not PWNED by tlc, at that specific moment.
whereas, kate was ..and pretty much perpetually is.

be that as it may-

Liars! said...
....
Lastly, I am intrigued by the thread started at the end of last week's free discussion that is continuing on this one. We have two conflicting stories on how the filming was done at Please Touch museum. Someone claimed they took a pic of their child and a Gosselin Goon had them delete it, thinking QFI was in the shot. As soon as the legalities of being made to delete a photo in a public place came up, a post suddenly came in saying the museum was "technically" closed for the day for filming making it private (which I guess makes coerced photo deletion legal) but a few commoners were let in to make it look like it wasn't really shut down for the Royal Family of County Berk. Could this be from one of their PR (that's public relations) people trying to explain away a potential crime? Hmmmm....


--------------------
alleged PR purported that there were signs hung, and that the receptionist kept whatever museum-goers aware of the event.
....
didn't our fellow GWoPer comment that she saw no such signs?
i would think that if the case that was claimed by said perspective PR was a true story, then the museum would be PLASTERED with notifications that 'filming was in progress' .. and would hardly be something that one could miss.
surely one would have had to sign a waiver so that TLC could show one's person/image.

come on. another weak, weak wash.


and i've already said it, but tlc played the sticky fingers on that ew article.
absolutely, undoubtedly.

I'm just sayin said...

Tangerine Tanya said:

She would love to see Kate break out in the Church Lady Dance as seen in SNL church chat.

***********************************Yeah hit it Pearl.

When asked a question and she is dumbfounded for words it would be a scream if the person asking the question would say "Did SATAN made you do it?"

Ohio said...

"The high ratings (fiasco) was the combination of fans (20%) and opponents (80%)."

If you are going to make up numbers, you may as well make them even more impressive. How about fans (5%) and opponents (95%). Or better yet, just go all out with 0% and 100%

Lily Locke said...

You must be kidding me.

Has anyone else noticed the crappy way they treat their animals?

Let me tell you something, KON, you do not allow your dogs out to run in the mud and the yuck soon after they have major surgery. You could do a better job of monitoring them too, KON, to allow them to swallow a toy is atrocious.

I have five cats, KON, five cats. I managed to keep Locket quiet on my lap after he got treated for his infection. I always keep everything away from them so they don't swallow anything.

They don't seem to care about the quality of life for those animals. The way they treated the cat on their property was equally disgusting.

And, Kate, you cannot scream at a puppy. If they have to go, they go. It's just the way it is. Your job as their human is to teach them that when they have to go to let you know. When you adopt a quiet, respectful temperment with an animal, that animal is going to be a quiet animal.

You'll reduce them to cowering in the corner with their tail between their legs, living in perpetual fear of you, just like you had Jon doing for so long.

-L

Lily Locke said...

Also, one more thing KON:

To say you weren't going to have them named stupid names and then have them be called that ridiculous mess you called them is a mess in itself.

People think I'm a nut that I named one of my cats D'Artagnan.

Beats Shoka and Nala hands down.

Also, I don't know if this has been posted before but...

http://www.kutv.com/content/news/topnews/story/Jon-Gosselin-minus-Kate-8-on-Parenting/woXpc_-sX0qR2ekh8Ii4NQ.cspx

What a load of crap:

Direct quote:

"Shauna: Do you feel protective of kate. it seems people are more critical of her and her personality and then you come out always looking like chill, mellow and laid back..

Jon: well i'm not always chilled because like when you have 8 kids and they are all talking at once, especially 5 girls it's kind of like be quiet. But editing has a lot to play with that you know."

"EDITING HAS A LOT TO PLAY WITH THAT." Hmm... Maybe Kate's more of a shrew than we've initially thought...

And:

"Jon: oh yeah I have, we have a corporation and other stuff. So i have some good plans and some r-and-r that i'm doing up here and some secrets that i'm not going to tell people, but yeah, you will see me around, definitely."

Really, Jon? What kind of corporation do you have? KON & Co.? What a load of crap. Shut up, Jon, before Kate uses the shock collar on you.

Confused said...

L said...This might have been mentioned before, but doesn't it seem like they're trying to start a "catch phrase".

That is the catch phrase from a children's book. Obviously, someone does read to the children.

iwillphotographyouanytime said...

I don't understand why they are so obsessed with other people photographing their kids. They are on national tv and just about every magazine out there.

YET someone told me that she keeps her kids out of all photo situations in school. Go figure. No class picture, no christmas program.

Not Confused said...

That is the catch phrase from a children's book. Obviously, someone does read to the children.

It's also a catch phrase used by most pre-school & kindergarten teachers. The kids probably picked it up in school, maybe even read to by one of their teachers.

DeeB said...

Just one more comment from me (yeah, right). Is it just me or has Kate been awfully "flirty" (sounds like a Kate word) in the last few episodes? It just seems to me that she is flirting with somone out of our view. Certainly not Jon and certainly not her audience. I could be wrong but I swear I've detected some not-so-subtle I'm so cute looks from her.

I love my son! said...

What Friggin' Nerve said...
If, God forbid, I was in the place of the woman who took the picture at the museum and was then faced with the Gosselin Goon demanding I delete the picture or he wouldn't move, I have to tell you we would both still be standing there. As a lawyer, I am stubborn by training and by nature, and it would indeed be a stand-off. The museum, itself, would have to call the police and have me charged and taken away -- and even then I guarantee you I'd still have that picture of my daughter. Additionally, that picture and the story would be on the front page of any local newspapers who were willing to print it the following morning.
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Oh man, this really just chaps my ass. I worked in law enforcement for close to a decade and quit to be a sahm. I'm not sure of the laws in PA, but here in FL when someone deprives you of your freedom to leave when NO crime has been committed, it's called 'False Imprisonment'. If this story is true and I tend to believe it is, then why on earth aren't people willing to stand up to Kate Gosselin? Kate is a shmuck and is used to bullying anyone and everyone (Jon, kids, Jen, Jenny, Jodi). I would love for Kate to do this to me! People wake up and stand up to her! What's going to happen if you say no anyway? Is she going to order her bodygaurds to attack you? Call 911 and file a police report if they don't let you leave right then and there! Watch how fast Kate & her crazy crew backs down. And while you're waitng for the police to arrive call a lawyer, TMZ and the news! Kate is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Its A Good Thing said...

Thanks for the info on the listing. I only checked the Brownstown (sp) site and I didn't see it. Does anybody remember what price it started out at?

Janine said...

Okay I just want to start out by saying that I am not a psychologist YET but I am 1 year away from getting my degree.

My comment is in degards to the state of Jon and Kates marriage. In my somewhat educated opinion, there is something VERY MUCH deeper going on between them in their relationship than just the little fights they get in.

The reason I say this is because of the way Kate treats Jon. We have all seen her talk down to, berate, and insult him on many, many occasions. Kate is acting this way for a REASON (I am NOT in any way defending or excusing her behavior).

People in relationships tend to fight about topics, not the REAL ISSUES. For example, she could be correcting his grammar and talking down to him to make him look bad and feel stupid in the moment because it annoys her that he is talking incorrectly, but the TRUE reason she could be making those comments is because she is so bitter and mad about something major that happened a year ago that hasn't ever gotten resolved.

I have been taught that individuals (especially women) will voice that they are mad, bitter, hurt, devestated, betrayed, etc. until they KNOW without a shadow of a doubt that their partner REALLY knows and understands the extent to which they hurt their partner. This could last years and years. For example, that is why some women (and men) will NEVER stop talking about their partner cheating on them 15 years ago. And, that person will also make petty fights JUST TO FIGHT even though it has nothing to do with the actual issue of the affair.

I have had a feeling for a long time that Kate is very mad or hurt about something that has happened in their relationship, and that is why she has acted so snotty and disrespectful so frequently.

BUT lately, I have seen something change. I have seen Kates attitude change quite dramatically lately(which I know we really dont see much in the grand sceme of their lives). She doesn't really harp at him much anymore, she doesn't really have that same "angry" attitude, which makes me think that she has just given up and doesn't care anymore.

There is a point at which the mind and heart does give up in some situations, and sometimes its a defense mechanism. Like, the heart says, "You know what, this hurts too much, I'm tired of hurting, and I'm going to build this wall so that my partner can't hurt me anymore." But in reality, even though the heart does that, it doesn't rely that message to the mind.

So, that is why many people don't understand why something that had hurt them for so long, and they NEVER got closure for it, just doesn't hurt anymore.

Anyway, sorry so long, just my opinion. I think there is something alot more major going on in Kates heart and head in terms with her relationship with Jon than we will ever know.

Hurting People, Hurt People.

Nancy Kaye said...

Kath in MI said...
Lindahoyt

It's interesting that her MI engagements are all on the west side of the state and not in the Metro Detroit area(maybe she has been here and it was a non-issue). In the Detroit area she'd probably be killed and eaten....that's IF they managed to sell enough tickets to make it worth her while.

Kate and Jon appeared in SE Michigan several weeks ago at special home/health show. I must say I take offense to your comment, however, about how peeps in the Detroit area would be inclined to kill and eat them. We have better taste than that. As far as people paying to see KON? Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in the country and the car companies are in the tank. People are struggling daily to pay their electric bill and buy food. I cannot imagine anyone would waste what little money they have on these charlatans. The west side of the state is not in the greatest shape either but it is a haven for conservative christian-type people who methinks are putting on blinders when it comes to KON.

Junebug said...

While at the museum, I kept seeing a man in a red t-shirt watching Kate and the kids. At the water activity it looked like he was taking pictures with his cell phone. I wonder if he had to delete them? Then I saw him riding the carousel behind Kate. Was he a stalker? Ha!!

in Canada said...

The sad reality of TV....if many hate a show and keep watching the train wreck ..the more the show will stay.Ratings don't care if opinions of the show are good or bad.,nor how much one hates it.
Ratings only count how many viewers are tuned in.
Morality does not exit in rating sweeps.

melodee said...

Jupiter said...
I can honestly say that I would not have compiled with the request unless I was asked NICELY but Kate herself. If she approached me and said "Can I ask you a favor? I am so sorry to ask but could you retake that photo without me in it? I really don't want random photos of me floating around. I hope you understand. If you want, I could take a picture of you and your daughter together for you?

jupiter: that was awesome! i never would have thought of saying things that way, and you know what, it would really make all the difference in the world to be asked so nicely. even if i really was against it, if someone (even the b!tch kate) asked me that way, i would probably do it.

Denise said...

My daughter is a photographer and her camera can quickly email a picture. Most cell phones can send them also.
I wish I thought I would ever be somewhere that I could grab a picture of her. We would have a battle on our hands!!

ImFrancie said...

DeeB said...
It just seems to me that she is flirting with someone out of our view. Certainly not Jon and certainly not her audience.


Not someone, but something: she's flirting with the camera. It's like the posing and pretending in front of a mirror. (C'mon, c'mon, admit it, we've all done it!) Only this is better because the camera records every expression, every gesture, every pose. The camera is her BFF!

my9cats said...

iwillphotographyouanytime said...
I don't understand why they are so obsessed with other people photographing their kids. They are on national tv and just about every magazine out there.

YET someone told me that she keeps her kids out of all photo situations in school. Go figure. No class picture, no christmas program.

3/28/2009 2:12 PM


For one very simple reason: They're not being paid for them.

Angie said...

Maybe in the future people will picket locations where Kate will be appearing. But even if that happens, Kate will just ingore it.

I also know a person who is a sociopath and fits every point of the description and even worse. It is just incredible to see such a person in action. They manipulate everyone and manage to destroy those they don't like. They never forgive and manage to be rewarded for their behavior. The only people they don't walk all over are those who can affect the bottom line--their paycheck.
They are bullies in the truest sense.

Mommy in PA said...

I most certainly would not have deleted a picture of MY children doing something cute in a public place just because Kate happened to be in it. I would have told that bodyguard no way. It can be tough to get a small child to have that exact same look on their face again, if at all! Also, I'd pretend I've never heard of Kate Gosselin if the bodyguard tried to make her sound like a celebrity. Most celebrities expect random pictures in public, they aren't going to send bodyguards to get it deleted. Geez even children of real celebrities have more privacy than the Gosselin kids!

BostonBean said...

Well, here's my advice for anyone who ever runs into the photo problem in the future.
If you snap a pic and Kate the Queen is in it, and someone approaches you; just put your little digital camera or your cell phone in your bra and don't comply with the bully.

Tony said...

Even though Keight always said she really "needed" Jon's help both times he lost his job, I think she was seething inside that he didn't have a job due to running his own website on company time and not being eligible for even unemployment.

I always wondered why the kids are so worried that Daddy is gonna leave like when he ran down the street to retrieve the kids' ball and one of them said "Daddy's gone" and later Jon said if he was going to leave, he wouldn't "run." Why on earth would small children think that Daddy was leaving? It seems to have been an issue within the family for some time.

Just my thoughts.

Anonymomma said...

Tony said...
Even though Keight always said she really "needed" Jon's help both times he lost his job, I think she was seething inside that he didn't have a job due to running his own website on company time and not being eligible for even unemployment.

I always wondered why the kids are so worried that Daddy is gonna leave like when he ran down the street to retrieve the kids' ball and one of them said "Daddy's gone" and later Jon said if he was going to leave, he wouldn't "run." Why on earth would small children think that Daddy was leaving? It seems to have been an issue within the family for some time.

Just my thoughts.


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The same can be said about the vow renewal. Maybe it's just me but, it doesn't quite make sense to renew one's vows after 9 years of marriage. Unless of course one of them were dying. Or, the more obvious. They repeated ad nauseum, how they felt the need to show the kids that mommy and daddy love each other and will be a family forever (something like that).

Why? What happened, what did the kids see or hear in that house that made them question otherwise?

Something happened. Something that they were not able to keep from the kids. And they questioned whatever it was. So the vow renwal was part damage control on their part.

sgw555 said...

I love how the Gosselin's official website - sixgosselins.com - has a section called 'In Our Prayers', but hasn't been updated since May 2008. Apparently they haven't been interested in anyone else for almost a year...

konGOaway said...

Two things, I think after the photo delete incident, everyone should have their cell phone camera ready and take pictures whenever J&K are seen out and about!!
Also I just went online to the Walmart site and guess what their new headline is . . . going green. And the products featured - TIDE and P&G products. What a surprise. Guess P&G decided to renew her contract after all.

Liz said...

Long time lurker, first time poster...you all crack me up BTW!

Tony said...

I always wondered why the kids are so worried that Daddy is gonna leave like when he ran down the street to retrieve the kids' ball and one of them said "Daddy's gone" and later Jon said if he was going to leave, he wouldn't "run." Why on earth would small children think that Daddy was leaving? It seems to have been an issue within the family for some time.

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I COMPLETELY AGREE!

There was even one time when Jon was at the gym running on the treadmill and he said he was 'running from Kate' as his motivation...

Tangerine Tanya said...

I Love My Son- BRAVO

Janine- Great info- thanks

Melissa said...

Today, March 28th, is Kate's birthday. I wonder if she's spending it surrounded by her children and loved ones. Yeah, right. What a sad, empty life she leads...what's even sadder is that she can't see how truly fake and empty it is...

Megan said...

Ugh, no offense to the person that deleted the picture because it was probably just a spur of the moment action but I wish said person had laughed in the face of the guard and said some snotty comment like, "tell your client not to stand behind my child," loud enough for the Queen Bee to hear. What really makes me laugh is the fact that recently they were at Mr. Chow's and were fine and dandy with the paparazzi taking their photo. PS Kate, they'll get money from your photo!
No one can tell me otherwise but I believe they went to Mr. Chow's for pure publicity! "Look at us and our happy marriage." It's no coincidence that it was soon after the season finale. Of course the sheeple all say, "oh, they probably just wanted to enjoy the food." I bet next week we see KON leaving the Ivy. Anyone wanna take that bet? Ha ha.
And lastly, this kind of bugged me...I was looking at that other site and reading their reviews on Table for 12. I only caught a few minutes of it but most of the sheeple for the Gosselins were complaining about how disgusting Table for 12 was. Seriously? They'll complain about them but what KON is doing is sunshine and roses? Some people need be bit by the dog before they stop poking it with the stick!

Megan

Mommy in PA said...

Melissa said...
Today, March 28th, is Kate's birthday. I wonder if she's spending it surrounded by her children and loved ones. Yeah, right. What a sad, empty life she leads...what's even sadder is that she can't see how truly fake and empty it is...



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She probably spent her birthday at the spa - going on about how hard her life is and how much she deserves this special spa trip.

jrchaffee89 said...

I know what you mean about the flirting! Almost like she is flirting with the camera man or the new producer or something...she acts playful and gross.
And her laugh?? I knew it bothered me, because I've heard it before...from Hillary Clinton!
Remember when she started that obnoxious cackle on her campaign trail and they kept showing clips of it and asking her WTF!?? It's not a real genuine laugh, it's a forced attempt to deflect attention from whatever is making her uncomfortable...Kate does this alot!!

konspiracytheory said...

Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Frauenthal Center ...

After suffering the long and winding road of infertility, the young couple felt stressed but blessed as they fought valiantly to help their babies survive the fight for their lives.

3/28/2009 8:11 AM

Kathy D said:

What "long and winding road of infertility" did they suffer???
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Exactly. I realize this statement was written by their PR people, but again - more lies. This one infuriates me. My husband and I went through 2.5 years of 'secondary infertility' (inability to conceive after already having had a child). Those were some of the darkest days of my life to date, yet I still had the perspective to be incredibly grateful for the child I did have. After some surgical intervention and a couple of rounds of IUI, we were blessed with another child (and a third out of the blue a couple of years after that!). Despite how difficult those years were, I don't go around yapping about them, because in the end, it all worked out for me - many couples aren't so lucky.

What was their 'long and winding road of infertility'? Both times, by Kate's own admission, they didn't even try to conceive w/o fertility treatments - and, they were immediately succesful both times. Yes, I know that it took two months for them to conceive the tups - not a long and winding road of infertility, in my book.

Beth said...

This has probably been mentioned already, but the truthteller videos on YouTube are absolutely hilarious! Check them out if you haven't already. If you read here, truthteller (I'm sure you do!), you are amazing. Make more! The coupon one had me in tears!

Sorry if this is old news...I just discovered it.

getoveryourself said...

"If you snap a pic and Kate the Queen is in it, and someone approaches you; just put your little digital camera or your cell phone in your bra and don't comply with the bully."

I would place my cell phone/camera is my back pocket and tell the 'bully' that he/she can kiss my AS* as I walk away laughing !!!

kateaintsogreat said...

Kate Gosselin most certainly had no problem allowing the TMZ camera person to take her picture as she and Jon exitted Mr. Chow's. Where were her picture 'police' at that time?

Anonymomma said...

After suffering the long and winding road of infertility, the young couple felt stressed but blessed as they fought valiantly to help their babies survive the fight for their lives.
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This statement pisses me off like you don't even know. Yes, her pregnancy may have be risky, but her kids were blessed. To come home from the NICU as soon as they did (I know mothers who spent close to a year in the NICU to come home with no baby) and with minimal health issues is not a 'valiant struggle'.

I've been thru the NICU 3x's. I'm not going to wax sympathetic about my experiences because even now I can look back and say I was damn lucky. But I will never forget scrubbing in one day alond side a mom younger than me, in absolute breakdown mode. Thinking she may have just been tired and stressed, it wasn't until I walked into the unit and saw the realtives and pastor next to her son's isolette that I realized what was happening.

On behalf of every NICU mom out there who went thru the worst of the worst, if I could slap Kate Gosselin for you I would.

Sunny Grace said...

A couple of things. I watched the last episode and reaction was that their marriage is either over, going in another direction or both will be living separate lives. Because, to me, the two clearly weren't in sync and Kate has already made up her mind: she's enjoying her life and has no intention of change. (Plus the way she grabbed that marker ... sheesh.)

About the photo-deleting incident. I'm very sorry the woman had to experience it. I'm certain it was uncomfortable, a bit embarrassing for her and she has my sympathy. Sometimes in these situations, just let it go. None of us were there and we all can say what we would've done. it is only a photo, one in a whole day's worth of a family outing.

One purpose of having a bodyguard is ensuring privacy (and/or simply using a big crew member) through intimidation -- keep away from the celebrity, do not take pictures, etc. And it's very effective. Scroll through YouTube and you'll see Angelina/Brad's bodyguard do this very effectively (and I'm sure very illegally) while they're in a Paris public park on a merry-go-round.

It would really be good if someone here is able to research and cite the specific law for that state or if there is general law or what rules professional journal photographers abide by (if you are in a public place or on a sidewalk, all's fair I believe). Then you can decide to bully down the bully. (I'm not certain I'd appreciate being photo'd in the ladies room ...)

Given Kate's evident personality, I am sure she just went a little over the top and got a wee bit hysterical: I am in charge! Something else to consider is that perhaps the powers that be at TLC and the production company (Hi! we live in same NC area and Hi! #2 if you're reading this.) very well understand Kate's personality and her behavior and all of these little irksome things are really done to handle her.

I have watched this show for a long while and only began watching it to learn how/what multiples are/do while learning, what it's like to be a multiple, etc. This show is not doing it. It's just voyeurism. Who'll have a meltdown today? Why are the children~hitting~ each other and far meaner than is normal? Why is Mady out of control?

I don't know what Kate's home life was growing up and what the dynamics were, but Kate's behavior -- demanding, rude, abrasive, grasping -- seems to be of someone who never really had much or ever really had much socialization (college, lengthy work experience), and now that there's money, is acting out. (And also might explain why she doesn't interact with the public much at readings: she might very well be unable to deal with people out of a controlled setting.) The clothes choices, hair style, etc., reflect it. The amount of waste -- it was sickening what had been discarded in the move.

maria said...

Anonymous Iwillphotographyournanny said...

You can photograph anyone you want in public place. You may not be popular for doing so, but there is NOTHING illegal about it.

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Exactly. This is how the paparazzi make their livings. NO ONE would be able to get me to delete a picture of my child. I'd stand firm. If this really happened, then Kate has become quite the primadonna.

Narcissism Please said...

i think there are almost as many of us from NC as there are from Ohio!

emma said...

Sunny Grace said:

"I don't know what Kate's home life was growing up and what the dynamics were, but Kate's behavior -- demanding, rude, abrasive, grasping -- seems to be of someone who never really had much or ever really had much socialization (college, lengthy work experience), and now that there's money, is acting out. (And also might explain why she doesn't interact with the public much at readings: she might very well be unable to deal with people out of a controlled setting.)"
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Very well said, Sunny Grace. I totally agree with you. She lacks sophistication and class. She clearly does not know how to interact with people, be it her husband, her kids, or the general public. Instead of being humble and grateful for all the freebies she has received over the years (and continues to receive), she is angry, rude and demeaning. The episode where they move into the house and she cleans the fridge "for four hours because it was so utterly disgusting." Why say that? Why make the previous owners feel like crap? Isn't Queenie getting a new fridge anyway? All the while she's cleaning it, two of the tups need help in the bathroom. Any decent and caring mother would drop what she's doing and attend to her kids. Not our Katie. She yells at Jon and orders him to go help the boys. Her behavior and TLC's continued exposure of these kids saddens me everyday.

I saw the youtube clip of them on Oprah. I love how Kate says that the crew isn't allowed to film in the kids' bedrooms because they need their privacy. Um, question...where was this concern for privacy when the tups were filmed peeing and pooping in the potty? Or when they were in the shower? Or when they in various stages of undress? For those of you on this website who have children, please answer this for me: would any of you ever ever allow your children being filmed in the shower?? Not by one cameraman, but by an entire crew consisting of a sound guy, several producers, etc. How can KON justify this? It blows my mind how money is more important to some people than the dignity and privacy of their children. Shame on Jon and Kate. I believe the reason they were struggling with infertility is because someone "up there" was telling them that they wouldn't exactly be Ward and June Cleaver. Just my opinion.....

alana said...

About Kate having her bodyguard

see that the picture was deleted:

This is at least the THIRD time I know of it happening -

In a gift shop in Hawaii
At a restaurant with Jon
This incident at the
museum.

IMO, Kate may be doing her "control thing" by having photos deleted, but I think all of the DRAMA is actually another way to DRAW ATTENTION TO HERSELF!

Beyond Blessed in GA said...

sgw555 said...
I love how the Gosselin's official website - sixgosselins.com - has a section called 'In Our Prayers', but hasn't been updated since May 2008. Apparently they haven't been interested in anyone else for almost a year...

___________________

I found it laughable that they want us (ok, not us, but the sheeple) to believe that they pray for others (or anything) with their family. When have we ever seen them pray at ALL?

Secondly, this seems about right to me. Not that they were interested in others before then, but thats about the time when I stopped tuning in (chronologically speaking), because of the cupcake episode. I noticed a VERY appearant attitude change right there. Again, not that Kate was a dream before then, but she was tolerable, quirky but kinda funny. The kids were cute, and they played at home...

But the reality? They were already looking for property, and there were probably more signs that I missed about how disfunctional this family actually was and is. But, for me, it could not be denied after cupcake-gate, and I vowed never to watch again after the visit to the new house,... "you may NEVER step foot in this room with out threaten of punishment of severeness".....

Of course I did watch some of that rediculous finale, and found it hilarious that Kate appeared proud about her fashion transformation (basically begging to have a show about that), which is so indicidive of her utter and total transformation, and clearly NOT for the better.

Phree said...

Emma: I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned how Kate says they are not filming bedrooms for privacy but then she lets crews tape kids on the potty. I think the new "No bedroom access" has more to do with her wanting to keep the full size of the house out of view. The fact that she spends more time finding out where the kids are waiting to be wiped and then find Jon to do it is crazy. She could've saved time by looking in each bathroom and helping her kids and helping them instead of making them sit around waiting for Jon so she could get back to scrubbing the fridge they weren't keeping and putting down the previous owner who is a well known area resident that the house cleaned professionally. Also, in another thread one of the people that TLC hired to clean before they moved in. That crew was told to do an executive cleaning but leave the kitchen sink, the fridge and that small pantry cabinet. This was all done so K can seem like such a martyr. She also needed an excuse so she didn't have to play with the kids.
On the fertility issue, Kate said she "always just knew" she'd have problems concieving so she went straight for fertility treatments. Instant gratification only for our Katie. In an early article her mom said skate always wanted multiples, so I suspect that was another reason for going on fertility drugs right away.
Now, onto the photo issue. As a professional photographer I can tell you that you may take photos of anyone/anything in the public domain unless you are taking poctutes of copyrighted material or some patented material. This would mean these items were your subject. An example of this I get a lot is in my studio. People will set up our props, put them on our background, and then take pictures of their kids posing. This is not allowed for obvious reasons, but we don't make people
delete them, just pleasantly ask them to put their cameras away while in the studio, People are fair game while in the public, but you may not publish the photo in any way without a signed model release. There was no legal justification for deletion of that photo, especially since K was not even the subject.
Sorry about the long post :)

chesterctymom said...

Anonymous Anonymomma said...

Tony said...
Even though Keight always said she really "needed" Jon's help both times he lost his job, I think she was seething inside that he didn't have a job due to running his own website on company time and not being eligible for even unemployment.

I always wondered why the kids are so worried that Daddy is gonna leave like when he ran down the street to retrieve the kids' ball and one of them said "Daddy's gone" and later Jon said if he was going to leave, he wouldn't "run." Why on earth would small children think that Daddy was leaving? It seems to have been an issue within the family for some time.

Just my thoughts.


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The same can be said about the vow renewal. Maybe it's just me but, it doesn't quite make sense to renew one's vows after 9 years of marriage. Unless of course one of them were dying. Or, the more obvious. They repeated ad nauseum, how they felt the need to show the kids that mommy and daddy love each other and will be a family forever (something like that).

Why? What happened, what did the kids see or hear in that house that made them question otherwise?

Something happened. Something that they were not able to keep from the kids. And they questioned whatever it was. So the vow renwal was part damage control on their part.



What stands out to me is when Kate was packing the stuff up in the basement ('bye to the house' I think) and Hannah said "Are you throwing daddy's clothes out" or something like that. That poor girl had a look of panic on her face and all Kold Kate said was "go upstairs". Very sad what Kon has don to their children.

SmartyQ said...

Janine said... Okay I just want to start out by saying that I am not a psychologist YET but I am 1 year away from getting my degree.

My comment is in degards to the state of Jon and Kates marriage. In my somewhat educated opinion, there is something VERY MUCH deeper going on between them in their relationship than just the little fights they get in.

The reason I say this is because of the way Kate treats Jon. We have all seen her talk down to, berate, and insult him on many, many occasions. Kate is acting this way for a REASON (I am NOT in any way defending or excusing her behavior).

People in relationships tend to fight about topics, not the REAL ISSUES. For example, she could be correcting his grammar and talking down to him to make him look bad and feel stupid in the moment because it annoys her that he is talking incorrectly, but the TRUE reason she could be making those comments is because she is so bitter and mad about something major that happened a year ago that hasn't ever gotten resolved.

I have been taught that individuals (especially women) will voice that they are mad, bitter, hurt, devestated, betrayed, etc. until they KNOW without a shadow of a doubt that their partner REALLY knows and understands the extent to which they hurt their partner. This could last years and years. For example, that is why some women (and men) will NEVER stop talking about their partner cheating on them 15 years ago. And, that person will also make petty fights JUST TO FIGHT even though it has nothing to do with the actual issue of the affair.

I have had a feeling for a long time that Kate is very mad or hurt about something that has happened in their relationship, and that is why she has acted so snotty and disrespectful so frequently.

BUT lately, I have seen something change. I have seen Kates attitude change quite dramatically lately(which I know we really dont see much in the grand sceme of their lives). She doesn't really harp at him much anymore, she doesn't really have that same "angry" attitude, which makes me think that she has just given up and doesn't care anymore.

There is a point at which the mind and heart does give up in some situations, and sometimes its a defense mechanism. Like, the heart says, "You know what, this hurts too much, I'm tired of hurting, and I'm going to build this wall so that my partner can't hurt me anymore." But in reality, even though the heart does that, it doesn't rely that message to the mind.

So, that is why many people don't understand why something that had hurt them for so long, and they NEVER got closure for it, just doesn't hurt anymore.

Anyway, sorry so long, just my opinion. I think there is something alot more major going on in Kates heart and head in terms with her relationship with Jon than we will ever know.

Hurting People, Hurt People.

With all respect, as you continue with your career, you will learn that there are people in this world who aren't worth walking on. QFI and Jane are two such persons.

I agree that QFI acts the way she does for a reason: she can get away with it. She probably couldn't as a child or teenager, but I've heard (take it for what it's worth) that she was disliked as a nurse because of her attitude and actions.

I would not waste one iota of sympathy for either of the Kons, nor would I consider plumbing the depths of their Saran Wrap psyches a challenge. They see their behavior as acceptable, nay, exemplary, and frankly, they're too stupid to benefit from self examination.

In my world, one helps those who seek help or those who know they need it. (And begging for loot doesn't count as need.)

4girlsoneboy said...

Emma said:
"I saw the youtube clip of them on Oprah. I love how Kate says that the crew isn't allowed to film in the kids' bedrooms because they need their privacy. Um, question...where was this concern for privacy when the tups were filmed peeing and pooping in the potty? Or when they were in the shower?"
-----------------------------------I think she stopped filming in the kids' rooms because of the many comments on here about the way they lived. Mattresses on the floor, never a nice bedspread or quilt on the beds----nothing cute that people usually do in their kids' rooms no matter what their financial situation is. Sure made one wonder how this mother could let us see her exiting the toney Mr. Chow's when we have already seen how they live. I think she should have forbidden the cameras from filming their entryway with the horrible confusion of shoes and boots. I really think this woman has more than one personality which would explain the constant lies. I swear one Kate has no idea what the other one is saying.

Jo Ann said...

I have a question that I haven't yet found the answer to - does anyone have any idea why Kate is so fixated on Hannah? Why is Hannah the "favored one"?

lifeoriley said...

OK--I've had a little too much time on my hands this weekend--it's been miserable and rainy--but the picture thing in the museum has been really bugging me. I was at MOMA in NYC a couple of weeks ago and they were fine with picture taking as long as no flashes were used. People were taking pictures of Picassos, Pollacks, Monets--no problem. I guess each museum can have it's owm policy.
HOWEVER, they CANNOT legally confiscate your film, camera, make you delete a picture or detain you if you are in a public place or even a semi-public place (one that is open to the public, but requires an admission fee). They CAN, however, throw you out without a refund. If you return, you are trespassing (generally a misdemenor). As long as there was "no expectation of privacy,"
one can pretty much photograph anything/body.
PA only recognizes certain torts (civil suits, not criminal) with repect to photos, and they generally involve people using unauthorized photos for profit and/or altering the photos to present a subject in a false light.
Exceptions are military bases and photographing private property WHILE ON THE PREMISES after being asked by the property owner to stop.
You CAN, however, photograph people and buildings, houses from a public space if they are visible from a public space (for example, the street).
These are generalities, of course, and do not apply in foreign countries.
So, snap away, people. Anyone who tries to intimidate you into deleting your pic is probably doing so illegally.

Liars! said...

I found that archive link to the families website on which they solicited cash and a 15 passenger van for 4 years, oh and walmart/target cards (you know, for our very basic needs). anyway I was scrolling through and among the more offensive details of this site was at some point they, in addition to the blatant begging, started to resale the items they were given. I distinctly remember Jon saying in an interview that they would gladly donate to parents of multiple any excess they received. I guess for a price?

Oh, and on one page, when they were pimping the book Beth wrote, take's email address was linked;

sixymomma@comcast.net

yea, I know.

Anotherpamom said...

Reading the stories about "photogate"- reminds me of a photo "incident" of my own with TLC personalities. Three years ago, Paul Teutel Jr. and Senior from TLC's American Chopper appeared at a motorcycle show in our town. Tens of thousands showed up and they had BIG bodyguards so that no one would get hurt! My daughter and I were told over and over "they can't pose for photos" "They will sign items quickly" etc etc. My 11 yr old lives for this and tries to stop in front of the signing table to get a photo with the Pauls in the background. I start freaking out and saying "Move, we can't do this!" The Pauls see a mom freaking out and a kid fan and THEY IGNORE THEIR OWN BODYGUARDS and say "come here, honey, we'll help with your photo." They were totally focused on responding to a child fan and were polite and a class act all the way. The line was so long not everyone got to see them but they arranged for other shop staff (Cody, etc) to have a new signing the next day. It is still one of my daughter's favorite memories and a great example of how classy personalities respond to their fans! J + K should take a lesson from them- and I'm sure it's not easy for them to be "Orange County Choppers" all the time instead of just Teutel family.

Tony said...

Jo Ann said...
I have a question that I haven't yet found the answer to - does anyone have any idea why Kate is so fixated on Hannah? Why is Hannah the "favored one"?

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In Keight's book she says something about Hannah being the first one she could hold in the NICU and she was the first child she was able to bond with. I vaguely remember on one of the shows Keight saying that Hannah just needs her more.

Three Amazing Kids said...

I just feel sorry for the kids for having their entire lives and their parents' marital problems aired on tevelsion for the world to see. Whole thing is sad.

Johanna said...

Jo Ann,
I've heard it mentioned that Kate claims in her book that Hannah was the first one who came home from the hospital and the first one she bonded with. Not sure if that led to the favoritism or not. It is frightening how detached she is from her other children, especially the boys...I see big problems in the Gosselin's future in terms of eight teenagers with serious issues, not only from having a mother who is detached, but from having their lives watched daily by millions of people.

I'm just sayin said...

J/K calimed that "God" blessed them with this and with that. They even had a prayer list going. So why dont they also prey that their marriage doesn't fall apart and stay strong? Then is it works they can say that GOD blessed them and if it doesnt they what do they say then? Ummmmm God was busy paying attention to the billions of other people on this planet. Ohh and I thought that we were so special we were the first family that he thought and blessed 24/7......My word.

sharon said...

I agree with Sunny Grace. During the episode about disciplan, Kate said she was "very over disciplaned". She acts like someone who grew up with no control, at all. She also mentioned that she never had any of the experiences that her kids have,(although most kids don't have these advantages), but I don't think Kate had any control over who she became. She does act like someone who was very controlled and over disciplaned, and as soon as they get out from under the person doing the controlling, they go nuts. we all have certian personalities indide, the child in us, the adult in us, and the parent in us. And, if we are not allowed to develope the child in us on our own, we will continue to be a child until we meet those needs. Kate is excactly the kind of person who loves to be on TV. They love the attention. It's almost Munchausen. Eventually when our behavior comes round and bites us in the behind, we change. Kate is really the child here, not Jon. He is just a guy who has no B---S and is married to a witch and is looking for someone to show him some respect. I really can't stand her, and this is what happends to people that are exposed to someone like Kate, after a while people begin to really dislike them.

What I don't understand is, why she hasn't gone and crawled under a rock somewhere. If I knew people disliked me as much as we all dislike Kate, I would run for cover and not show my face until I had plastic surgury so no one would recognize me. I guess she is just sooooo into herself, and her needs, that she has no idea, or cares, about how people feel about her. I guess I just answered my own question.

I also agree that it's sad that these kids have to be raised by such a lunatic. But, think of all the millions of kids out there who are being raised by a lunatic and they're not on TV, so no one is aware of it, and this is how they spend most of their little lives.

I also agree that TLC and Kon are making a lot of money off of her insanity, so it all works for them. Money talks and the are all laughing all the way to the bank.

Marie France said...

4girlsoneboy said...
I think she stopped filming in the kids' rooms because of the many comments on here about the way they lived. Mattresses on the floor, never a nice bedspread or quilt on the beds----nothing cute that people usually do in their kids' rooms no matter what their financial situation is. Sure made one wonder how this mother could let us see her exiting the toney Mr. Chow's when we have already seen how they live. I think she should have forbidden the cameras from filming their entryway with the horrible confusion of shoes and boots. I really think this woman has more than one personality which would explain the constant lies. I swear one Kate has no idea what the other one is saying.
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Actually, I think the REAL reason that Kate is not letting the cameras film in the kids rooms is that she cannot let the sheeple see how vast and lavish the house is. If you notice, since they moved in, we have only seen the kitchen and dining area, with a quick background shot of the adjacent family room. We saw the basement (for the painting episode), and that's about it. So, she is lying through her teeth when she says, "We are not allowing cameras in the kids rooms to give them their privacy." I call BS big time on that! She needs to continue to fool the sheeple that they are living modestly and clipping coupons. If those cameras filmed throughout the house, they'd see that KON is living in a huge estate, not just a "bigger house." She is such a liar and total CON ARTIST. Nothing she says or does is with the welfare of her kids in mind. It's all about big $$$$$$$$$ and attention for her. She makes me sick.

Live In LA said...

OK, the Kon's are "D" listers at best. The TMZ photog at Mr. Chow was a complete set up (their PR called TMZ to "tip" them off that thy'd be there). When there is a true celebrety out and about there are dozens of photogs chasing after them and/or snapping pictures - note that TMZ was the only one there to catch and photograph Kon - you didn't even see flashes going off in the background. Although there were other photgs there they didn't care or didn't know who they were so why waste the film. Yes, in their own way they are reality show celebrities - but what they don't realize is they are "D" list and the bottom of the barrel. I don't see Angelina calling to find out tips on taking care of her brood.

NCLindsey said...

I am just fascinated with this site and the thousands of people who share their take on Kon, not to mention coming forward with their knowledge and personal stories. There have been psychologists and psychology students analyzing Kon's behavior, and lawyers and police officers discussing certain laws and legalites of situations that Kon fnds themselves in. I also love reading stories of people who run across them in public, either at a speaking engagement, book signing, or randomly at an outing.

So keep it up everyone! :) Also am checking in from NC... Kitty Hawk, specifically... just a few miles down the road from where they vacationed last summer. I am keeping my eyes and ears out this year if they decide to come back to my neck of the woods... trust that I will try and "accidentally" run into them at the beach and report back! :)

motorcitymom said...

I haven't watched this show in months, however, I happened to catch the episode last night when they were at the museum only because I read this blog daily and was appalled to read that Kates crew demanded (not asked!)that the woman delete the picture. I am sure the woman was quite shocked and couldn't think quick enough as to what to do or how to respond. My question is this...There were many people shown in the background footage, which were most likely visitors, were they compensated for their appearance on the show? If not, why weren't their faces blurred out. If they signed a waiver stating they wouldn't take pictures etc., did that waiver also say they would allow themselves and their children to be filmed and appear on the show for free? There is no way in hell that I would have deleted that picture. Get over yourself already Katie Irene!!! I also noticed the man in the red shirt that another poster mentioned that was clearly using his cell phone to take pictures, was he asked to delete them? If Kate and John can exploit and live off of the backs of their kids, I would have demanded that any pictures of myself or my children be removed from the episode as I would not want to be on camera anywhere near Kate Gosselin which might imply that we were there simply because "they" were!

Kate is a disgrace to the human race, and I am a true believer that what goes around comes around. Kate is pitiful and it amazes me how ignorant she and john can be in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. I live in a suburb of Detroit and believe me, I don't know of one person who would pay 1 cent to see these people, we are wise to their fraud and I believe it is despicable what both of them are doing! We have enough to worry about in this state with our 12% unemployment rate and there are so many here that are truly worthy and grateful for any and everything thing we can give. Our country is in crises Kate and John, open your eyes, we couldn't care less where your next appearance will be!

Tami said...

Kate Gosselin the star of TV's favorite family show and the author of Multiple Blessings, shares the gripping details of her rollercoaster ride of emotional highs and lows when she discovered she and her husband, Jon, would be expecting sextuplets while still basking in the light of their twin girls' toddlerhood. After suffering the long and winding road of infertility, the young couple felt stressed but blessed as they fought valiantly to help their babies survive the fight for their lives.
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Oh what BS!! They make it sound like the tups were a big accident! And that they were not carefully pre-planned.. Can some idiot sheeple please tell me why it is ok for a "struggling young couple" (keyword: struggling) of twins to seek out more kids and how this is different from octomom? Thanks!

Shari said...

Uuuugh! I just found out my niece is a Sheeple. I'm so embarrassed! Are any of your relatives Sheeple? How do you ever look at them the same again? She even read their book and said it's one of her favorites! I suddenly feel the need to go wash my hands ....

Tami said...

hahaha..I was going to the TLC website to complain about the show and how I am fed up with these kids being put through this so Kate can keep raking in bucks thanks to the show and becoming even more of a maniac. What did I find? An idiotic article about Kate's tips for us. Probably not new, but still. Enjoy!
)))))
Kate's Organization TipsJon & Kate Plus 8 main » Tips for a Smooth Household e-mail share bookmark print



Tip #1 Organize

As a mother of sextuplets and twins, one of the best methods for keeping a family organized is lists! No one has the memory of an elephant! Keep a constant running list of "To Dos" and then cross things off as they are completed! My to-do lists consists of meals for the week, which loads of laundry need to be done, and which parts of the house need attention. Lists will keep you and your family organized.


Tip #2 Shop on a Budget

Shopping for a family of 10 means planning ahead and staying on a budget. The good news is that you can have healthy, home-cooked, delicious (even organic!) meals for a large family. Look for sales! Watch the sale papers and take advantage of store promotions, coupons and rainchecks. Keep a constant running list of things that are on sale and that you need at the store from week to week. This will avoid buying things that you don't need. It's also good to stock up on items that you use a lot of and that are on sale!


Tip #3 Prepare for Outings

Plan ahead! If outings are well thought out in advance, it will allow for a better time for all! Always take plenty of drinks, snacks, clothing and supplies. Make a mental plan of how the day will unfold and then adjust it as necessary!


Tip #4 Count Your Blessings

On days that your role as mom seems mundane and pointless and repetitive(we all have those), remember to count your blessings! Take a moment, see all that is positive in your life and the life of your children and it will give you that boost that you need!


Tip #5 Promote Safety

Talk about different scenarios and what is safe and acceptable and what is not safe and what they should not do in different situations! Remind them to come to YOU as a parent if they hear something that they don't understand, think that is bad or don't know what it means. You want to position yourself as their resource person to keep conversation lines open. This needs to start at a very young age.


Tip #6 Provide Order

A schedule will help everyone in the family. It removes the guesswork and a lot of frustration. It allows the things that need to get done to get done because life becomes somewhat predictable.


Tip #7 Reward Your Children

Reward them for their helpfulness and kindness—if only with your words, this will mean a lot to them. They want your approval!


Tip #8 Make Housework a Family Affair

Especially in a large family, involving all of the kids in the housework, chores, cooking, cleaning etc. This helps to provide family unity, and a sense of belonging. It also teaches kids to develop a strong work ethic. And encourage Dad to get involved—in our situation, much of what a successful mom is able to accomplish is due to a very present and helpful dad!

ChangetheChildLaborLawsinPA said...

JoAnn, Regardless of what Kate told Beth to write in the Book, I have always thought Kate favors
Hanna because Hannah use to help
fold the laundry--Kate just see's
another helper.

Anonymomma said...

sixymomma@comcast.net

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That says a lot. Isn't she forgetting two?

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

iwillphotographyouanytime said...
I don't understand why they are so obsessed with other people photographing their kids. They are on national tv and just about every magazine out there.

YET someone told me that she keeps her kids out of all photo situations in school. Go figure. No class picture, no christmas program



I thought she was all "about the memories"? Aren't these pictures along with sports, dance etc etc pictures some of the best memories? There are at my house. We display them proudly and then they are tucked away in each kids album to be completed and given to them when they start their own lives outside the home. I guess J&K will have just hand out the TLC DVD's to her kids when they leave the nest and they will have to settle for that.

BTW...I see Kate taking pictures so I guess if you happen to be in the background you could demand she delete your likeness from her camera? Love to be in that situation.

Like the poster who had a positive experiance with the guys from American Chopper, we had one with Chase Utley of the Phillies. Chase is a very private guy and he and his wife always keep a low profile when out and about in Philly. During the playoffs with LA, we were at a gas station in South Philly and here comes a black Mercedes and out jumps Chase to pump his gas. We were at the pump across from him and my daughter gets out and is trying coyly take his picture. He glances over, smiles at her and she got her shot. Another person approaches him and asks me to take a shot with his camera phone which I do. I than ask if he would take a picture with my daughter and he told me sure and he wrapped his arm around her and smiled and my daughter was thrilled. She framed that photo and it is on her wall in her dorm room as well as her wallpaper on her phone! What a nice experiance.

Tami said...

General Question or Comment
Program/Show Jon and Kate plus 8
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Program Time Primetime(6:00 pm - 2:00 am)
Comments I know I am far from the only one from the thousands of comments I seen online about these people, but I am fed up! Why are you continuing to allow them to have a show and line their greedy pockets so they can subject their children to this? The parents have enough money thanks to you, to buy a mansion and not worry about childcare. So they run around the country doing what they want and leave their kids neglected. The kids have spent their lives, thanks to you, in front of cameras with no privacy at all. Clearly they are unsocialized and behind their peers developmentally despite the "culture" you are allowing them to have. Please be assured that the majority of people hate this couple even if you do get ratings. The ratings are because people watch to see when this trainwreck will derail and to see which products to boycott--and to see if there is any new reasons to call CPS and ASPCA! They do have a small but vocal fan base of not to bright folks. Otherwise, I know of no one who can stand them. Please don't give them another season. There are more important things to consider than just the money they might make for you. Think of the kids! End the reign of these selfish maniacs, please! I am begging..

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Here is the email I just sent TLC. Now I can wait to receive a form letter in return telling me thanks for my opinion. Oh joy.

Tami said...

I've been thru the NICU 3x's. I'm not going to wax sympathetic about my experiences because even now I can look back and say I was damn lucky. But I will never forget scrubbing in one day alond side a mom younger than me, in absolute breakdown mode. Thinking she may have just been tired and stressed, it wasn't until I walked into the unit and saw the realtives and pastor next to her son's isolette that I realized what was happening.
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When our daughter was there a single mom about 18 had a baby there without a brain stem. Her baby was kept near ours and we heard them explaining to her what she could expect. There were other babies in induced comas, etc. No, the tups were not in a valiant struggle for life compared to other situations. Just more ploys for sympathy..and cash.

Anonymomma said...

Shari said...
Uuuugh! I just found out my niece is a Sheeple. I'm so embarrassed! Are any of your relatives Sheeple? How do you ever look at them the same again? She even read their book and said it's one of her favorites! I suddenly feel the need to go wash my hands ....
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My MIL came over for coffee a few months back and we got on the topic of this sham of a show. As soon as she uttered the words my hubby left the room lol. He knows how much I dislike K8 and her BS. My MIL was about to say something about the kids being cute and I cut her off and filled her in. She didn't even know they live so close to us. It was instant sheeple conversion lol, took about two minutes to change her from a follower to a non believer. However, she did say "There's just something about that woman, and I can't put my finger on it."

On some level the sheeple do see it. They just don't want to believe it.

I Live in LA Too said...

Live In LA said...

OK, the Kon's are "D" listers at best. The TMZ photog at Mr. Chow was a complete set up (their PR called TMZ to "tip" them off that thy'd be there). When there is a true celebrety out and about there are dozens of photogs chasing after them and/or snapping pictures - note that TMZ was the only one there to catch and photograph Kon - you didn't even see flashes going off in the background. Although there were other photgs there they didn't care or didn't know who they were so why waste the film.

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You might want to re-watch the footage, as there were other flashes going off. Paparazzi in front of Mr. Chow's are not a rarity; it's highly unlikely that the Gosselins' PR people needed to tip anyone off as the photographers would be there anyway.

Debra said...

New poster here. And I am just AMAZED (or maybe I'm not) at the intellectual level of Gosselin fans. I just checked out that other (anti GWOP) site (for grins), and here is a quote "in the MIST of" (aka midst). And the author used that term more than once. I kid you not. Guess that explains a whole lot.

Tami said...

Jupiter said...
I can honestly say that I would not have compiled with the request unless I was asked NICELY but Kate herself. If she approached me and said "Can I ask you a favor? I am so sorry to ask but could you retake that photo without me in it? I really don't want random photos of me floating around. I hope you understand. If you want, I could take a picture of you and your daughter together for you?
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I would go so far as to tell the bodyguard or producer or whatever in front of Kate: Tell her to ask me politely and I will do it. Then see what happens! ha! As for the guy saying he will not move until it is deleted, please! How wide was the path he was in? Just walk around him! Or turn around and walk! Why would he have to move? Just say, 'enjoy standing there then. bye!'

Tami said...

I know I am far from the only one from the thousands of comments I seen online about these people, but I am fed up! Why are you continuing to allow them to have a show and line their greedy pockets so they can subject their children to this?
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Correcting my bad grammar (actually typos since I hate poor grammar)--I meant have seen, not seen. In another spot I said to instead of too. I just wanted anyone who saw them to know that I know the mistakes are there. lol.

in Canada said...

sixymomma@comcast.net.......

Kate really is playing with words...sixy = sexy
what male in his
RIGHT/SANE mind would want to come within a mile of her?
Those kids need a lawyer to protect their money and their rights.

Lisbeth said...

Hi. I have asked this before in a different thread, but I can't seem to find an answer.

Does anyone know if the children are paid separately than the parents? That is my polite way of asking if they have a big bank account to crack into when they turn 18 after having their childhood exploited and sold?

jen said...

Has anyone noticed on their official website, Kate said she wanted to post 52 of her favorite Bible verses by Labor Day 2009 but she has only posted 7?

Didn't someone mention she wants to publish a book a verses?

Jodie said...

Shari said...
Uuuugh! I just found out my niece is a Sheeple. I'm so embarrassed! Are any of your relatives Sheeple? How do you ever look at them the same again? She even read their book and said it's one of her favorites! I suddenly feel the need to go wash my hands ....

3/29/2009 11:34 AM

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I've posted the story about converting my mom, but I'm working on a few friends now. I had no idea they even drank the sheeple koolaid until I joined the Facebook group "I strongly Dislike Kate Gosselin." It got conversation going and maybe now I can convert a few more sheeple!! :)

Amy said...

As I see it....TLC has a problem and her name is Kate. TLC has created a Star (D-list though) who has diva demands. Here they have a successful show but in the process they are called out by ex-fans for child exploitation. (Kudos to everyone who has written TLC!!) TLC is about ratings and $$$, nothing else. Morals and ethics do count and apparently either do children. Even with the exploitation and demands to cancel the show they still only care about $$. When the ratings and advertising revenues start to decline, that's when J/K+8 will go off the air. Forget the need to help the children, TLC and J/K don't care. The children are only a commodity to earn more $$$. Each time I think of this I get sad for the past, present and future of the children.

Kathi D said...

I never heard why they have no relationships with the grandparents, only that Kate once said, "Our families choose not to help" or something like that. What happened?

Amy said...

Morals and ethics do count and apparently either do children.
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Sorry. This should have read
"Morals and ethics do NOT count and apparently either do children.

so irritated said...

I am going to go on the record and thank Jane for having the emotional IQ of a 19 year old.

Without his hanging out w/ the kiddies at the bars and beer pong with the co-eds at their house, KON would still be enjoying their Teflon and bulletproof invisibility cloak. Finally, finally, finally, mainstream media and (some) of the clueless masses are starting to get it.

The best part of all of this (for me, anyway!) is the four levels of denial over the photos from the sheeple.

First excuse was: "I sent an email to Jon and Kate's PR people and just got a response. It wasn't Jon, he was out of town with Kate." Second excuse: "That had to be Jon's brother, he looks just like him or they were photoshopped pics." Third excuse: "That's Jon in the picture but it's just a fan photo, it wasn't in a bar." Fourth excuse: "So what if he was in a bar, he was just blowing off steam." Excuse me.... who here whether you are a GWOPer or lurking sheeple would be OK with their significant other hanging out with college girls at their house? It was beyond innappropriate for any man his age to do, let alone the Dad from America's Favorite Family.

My all time favorite sheeple statement after KON went on the record and didn't deny anything: "Why would they even talk about it or admit it?" In other words, the pro-KONS wanted Take & Yawn to keep pretending their life is perfect to prove US wrong so they could get back to living vicariously through that trainwreck.

Sadly, I agree with others who think KON is going to use this as the premise of their next book. They will then hit the road telling their suckers... errr.. fans how God saved their marriage. Bleccch.

Tonia said...

Several of my family members are Sheeple, and I say whatever floats their boat. I'm not interested in causing family drama over a television show. I think people would think I was a massive tool if I attempted to "convert" family members from liking Kate to hating her. Is it really worth anyone's time?

4girlsoneboy said...

Kates tips for organization:

"Tip #1 Organize

As a mother of sextuplets and twins, one of the best methods for keeping a family organized is lists! No one has the memory of an elephant! Keep a constant running list of "To Dos" and then cross things off as they are completed! My to-do lists consists of meals for the week, which loads of laundry need to be done, and which parts of the house need attention. Lists will keep you and your family organized."


Doesn't this just tick you off? If she spent a little more time with her kids - maybe read a book to them once in awhile or play a game with them - she wouldn't have time for lists. She could join the ranks of those of us who might be disorganized but love our kids to death. Just reminded myself of something - has anyone else ever seen Chutes and Ladders or Candyland in their home? I have always been concerned about the lack of books but what about kids' games. I guess flying time between Pennsylvania and LA gives one lots of time for writing lists as I just can't imagine that Kate ever reads a book or knows one darn thing about current events.

4girlsoneboy said...

another of Kate's tips:

Tip #5 Promote Safety

Talk about different scenarios and what is safe and acceptable and what is not safe and what they should not do in different situations! Remind them to come to YOU as a parent if they hear something that they don't understand, think that is bad or don't know what it means. You want to position yourself as their resource person to keep conversation lines open. This needs to start at a very young age.

I loved the part about coming to you as a parent. She should have added "as long as I am not in my bedroom or you will be punished with severeness". Just one more thing that has rubbed me the wrong way.

Jo Ann said...

Thanks to those who answered my question regarding why Hannah seemed to be favored over any of the others. It does make sense (well, maybe just to Kate) that since she was the first one of the tups she could bond with, naturally she would continue to have a bond with her, but gee whiz, what about the rest? Doesn't explain her detachment to the twins!

Me thinks Hannah is going to have a tough time later on when the rest grow to resent her specialness with Kate (and to a lesser extent, Jon).

DeeB said...

Janine: You said, "lately I've seen a change in her" in regards to her not nagging Jon anymore. Did you miss the entire 4th season? It was only about 3 weeks ago that she went absolutely ape you-know-what when Jon interrupted her. Yet she interrupts him constantly. She was so hateful, hatefilled, and nasty to him that it was uncomfortable to watch.

Narcissism Please said...

re: never seeing how big the house is.

i cant recall EXACTLY which episode it was .. may have been walk in the woods, may have been when jon was scooping poop, but..
point being-

there was an actual shot of the whole back of the house.

it's pretty huge.
granted, that's not the vast inside-space be-known, but still.



ps-
i'm not sure how, but i've still yet to encounter cupcake-gate.
does anyone know the actual name of the episode so that i may try to rustle it up on youtube?

konGOaway said...

in Canada said...
sixymomma@comcast.net.......

Kate really is playing with words...sixy = sexy

I bet that email address changed really quickly when she started sending their sob stories to all of the churches and realized that is where they could really cash in!!!

Live In LA said...

Yes, the Paparazzi are always at Mr. Chow's, however, my point was that they were not there for Kon and wouldn't even have recognized them if the "tip" hadn't be phoned in to TMZ....Look at footage of a real celeb and the amount of photogs & flashes. They may have had more pictures taken but those pictures were put in the "they're nobody" pile. They are "D" listers and as I said earlier, they were not being hounded by the Paparazzi it was a set up.

wramblinwreck said...

"I think people would think I was a massive tool if I attempted to "convert" family members from liking Kate to hating her. Is it really worth anyone's time?"

I may have missed it, but I haven't seen anyone on this blog advocating for readers to go out and "convert" family and friends from liking to hating Kate. IMO, KON is doing a fine job of that themselves, they really don't need anyone's help!!

criticalthinker said...

I have been reading this blog since last summer and I need to share a few thoughts with the rest of you like-minded bloggers. I was a senior in nursing school (at a REAL college in a BSN program) when I regularly started watching Jon & Kate plus 8. What struck me almost immediately was Kate's utter and total lack of critical thinking skills for her to supposedly be a nurse. Case and point, when poor Collin was constipated. Even the most inexperienced of nurses knows that if your patient is constipated, there are several non-pharmacologic interventions that can be used. These include increasing fluid intake, administering warm fluids such as hot tea, and having the patient ambulate (walk around). Kate's reactions at the eye doctor's office also seemed a bit odd for a nurse...her explanations and descriptions of her children's eye issues just seemed so amateur and unprofessional.
I know that people have posted about her nursing education background before, but I have never gotten a definitive answer as to her credentials. In my professional opinion, she doesn't seem to have the skills or smarts to even have graduated from LPN school, much less to pass the NCLEX and become an RN. There is no way in Hell she actually went to a bachelors of science in nursing program like I did. Then again, this is my opinion based on observing her and I could be wrong. If anyone has a conclusive answer regarding her education, I would appreciate it.

criticalthinker said...

I have been racking my brain for months now trying to remember where I have seen Kate's crazy hair-do before. Well, I am proud to announce that I figured it out. While visiting my grandparents over the weekend (because unlike some people, I actually have a relationship with my grandparents, haha), I came across my old baby book. Inside is a picture of my mother in the delivery room, circa 1984, sporting an asymmetrical hair-do, a la Kate Gosselin. The difference is my mom actually looked pretty with it, despite the fact that she was 9 months pregnant with her legs in stirrups. Kate just looks crazy. And orange.

Shari said...

Didn't someone mention she wants to publish a book a verses?
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Someone should inform Kon that 'Someone' already did that....it's called the Bible.

ICExploitation said...

If anyone has a conclusive answer regarding her education, I would appreciate it.

Kate has been described as having received a "diploma" from the nursing program at Reading Hospital. In California, there are many junior colleges that have nursing programs. At completion the "degree" is an equivalent to an Associates and the person is now able to take the "boards" to become a RN. I don't know if Kate's "diploma" is equivalent to an Associates, but she is a Registered Nurse in the state of Pennsylvania. Hope this helps.

beachluvin said...

so irritated said...

Sadly, I agree with others who think KON is going to use this as the premise of their next book. They will then hit the road telling their suckers... errr.. fans how God saved their marriage. Bleccch.

3/29/2009 2:04 PM
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I agree that's probably what will happen but first she has to find a sucker to write the book for her that she will be able to kick to the curb after she does so. Someone that will not take any credit for the writing because, um...we all know that Kate can not write.
The only thing she could come close to writing is a translation book on all her Katie-Irenisms.

Regarding the photo that someone took with Miss Biotch in the background...I don't understand why she can't be in a photo but she hands out photos of her kids to complete strangers? What is wrong with this picture?
Hellllooooo!!! Someone should write Gloria Allred or Nancy Grace about that little fact!

Anonymomma said...

critical thinker, kate graduated from reading hospital (in pa), she did their two year accelerated program for her RN (which she does keep current). she doesn't have a BSN, nor an associates. but rather the minumum required to take and pass the exam.

i agree with you 150%, there have been several instances where kate lacked all knowledge, compassion, and even instinct in regards to her nursing background (such as the constipated baby, or the kid on the floor in the laundry room). i'm not a nurse, but i come from a long line of them. maybe its that combined with being a mom that makes me notice what she lacks in this department. but it is obvious. i find it hard to believe she did much nursing at all.

something else about nursing, my sister's been in the profession for several years. you can't really have a conversation with her (or pretty much any other RN i know) without them using medical lingo out of habit. i've heard plenty of funny phrases such as circling the drain, or the haldol shuffle incorporated into many a topic with these women, but not kate. that is very odd to me, because she just never seems to make any refference to anything medical. for what i know about nursing, the women i know who are nurses, it's a part of who they are that never leaves them.

who knows? maybe kate realized early on that she sucked at it and was hoping for an out.

wicked witch lives in wernersville said...

In reference to Criticalthinkers post about Kate's education: Having BSN behind your name doesn't make an RN a better nurse. This has been addressed numerous times in the past. Kate completed a program at Reading Hospital which included some credits from Kutztown University. I also graduated from the same program earlier than Kate, do not have my BSN but have been successful in my nursign career. That being said, I am not a fan of Kate and if I saw her come towards me or one of my family members as a nurse, i would RUN the other direction!

Courtney said...

ps-
i'm not sure how, but i've still yet to encounter cupcake-gate.
does anyone know the actual name of the episode so that i may try to rustle it up on youtube?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex63Ubz9oM4

Beyond Blessed in GA said...

Shari said...
Didn't someone mention she wants to publish a book a verses?
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Someone should inform Kon that 'Someone' already did that....it's called the Bible.

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LOL, nice try K8!

mommaof3 said...

Just wondering if any of you know which church they attends? We as Christians are suppose to tithe every thing we make just wondering if you think she does this and does her church reap the benefits?

seacitygirl said...

Shari said...
Didn't someone mention she wants to publish a book a verses?
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Someone should inform Kon that 'Someone' already did that....it's called the Bible.

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LOL, nice try K8!


What do you think that she thinks that she can improve it, though.

Take out all of that stuff about loving your neighbors, caring for the poor, and being humble, and cherishing children.

Instead, Kate's tips on how SHE saved the world.

Just Moved said...

"mommaof3 said...
Just wondering if any of you know which church they attends? We as Christians are suppose to tithe every thing we make just wondering if you think she does this and does her church reap the benefits?"

Someone on here once mentioned it being an Assembly of God church. I know there is a huge one in Reading called Glad Tidings but I don't know if that is the one they attend (or maybe I should say don't attend)

Sista' Please said...

Kate reminds me of a caucassion version of Star Jones.

Mary Jo said...

In refrence to medical lingo my son is a medical doctor. A surgeon to be exact and he never uses medical terms when he is speaking to lay people. only at the hospital or with other doctors.

AnnieD said...

About all the woe-is-me from Kate about her childhood (didn’t get to travel, over disciplined) and how she had to settle for a second class wedding, I say BS. She admitted in at least one interview that all five kids went to a private school – from kindergarten through to high school graduation. Knowing nothing about her family’s finances, I suspect this came at considerable sacrifice from her Minister father, and a mother who I believe is still working.

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery-health/33584-jon-kate-plus-8-interview-kates-background-video.htm

CC said...

Darn...T-Mobile sponsors KON. And I just renewed with them for another two years! AAARRRGGGHHH! Oh well, come Monday morning, I will pay the $250 fee to switch to another carrier. Have already sent an email to T-Mobile regarding them sponsoring child exploitation. Anyone know of any other cell phone carriers sponsoring KON? Don't want to use them either.

CC said...

You do the hokey-pokey and you turn yourself around, that's what KON is all about.

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery-health/33585-jon-kate-plus-8-interview-kates-family-video.htm

Lynette said...

Now that I've seen this video (thanks to whoever recommened this site, lots of good clips there) I do understand the "highchairs" more. At this point, with the trays and bars removed, they aren't really "highchairs" but "high chairs"...know what I mean? Think of them more as as "tall chairs." They make sense to me now.

The bibs still baffle me though.

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/tlc/33982-jon-and-kate-plus-8-high-chairs-video.htm

MommyToBe said...

Jon needs to quit complaining about being recognized while he is out and about without the rest of his family. Any coed in her right mind would have ZERO interest in a schlubby, balding 30 something guy with a wife and 8 kids at home that shows up uninvited to a college party. You get what you get Jon, and you don't get upset!

Taryn said...

That just fries me to read Barb's story. I would've told Count Olaf's, oh I mean Kate's, bodyguard that I will keep the photo of my child in the camera and once I upload it, will happily crop out Kate's mug.

And I would have taken that "token photograph" that he gave her and told him to shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

She is one nervy little gnome. She's famous for giving birth to a litter of children. There is no talent involved in that. If this were 15 years ago, she'd be an anonymous Joe Schmo with nobody in the world interested in her.

Oh, and she really needs to lose the striped 80s skater dude haircut. We're the same age and I certainly don't scour my yearbooks looking for fashion inspiration.

where's winnie said...

Just watched the Cupcake link and toward the beginning when she's going into the house you can see her ankle tattoo.
Saw the pics on buzzfoto.com the other day(search their names, don't know how to link) and it looks like it's gone.

beachluvin said...

AnnieD said...
About all the woe-is-me from Kate about her childhood (didn’t get to travel, over disciplined) and how she had to settle for a second class wedding, I say BS. She admitted in at least one interview that all five kids went to a private school – from kindergarten through to high school graduation. Knowing nothing about her family’s finances, I suspect this came at considerable sacrifice from her Minister father, and a mother who I believe is still working.

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery-health/33584-jon-kate-plus-8-interview-kates-background-video.htm

3/29/2009 7:01 PM
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Not bad Katie Irene! Only 10 ums in 44 seconds....that is only 1 um per 4 seconds!!!!

Annies said...

Honey, you hit the bullseye. That's the big church they go to SOMETIMES.

Just Moved said...
"mommaof3 said...
Just wondering if any of you know which church they attends? We as Christians are suppose to tithe every thing we make just wondering if you think she does this and does her church reap the benefits?"

Someone on here once mentioned it being an Assembly of God church. I know there is a huge one in Reading called Glad Tidings but I don't know if that is the one they attend (or maybe I should say don't attend)

3/29/2009 6:10 PM

Annies said...

Just Moved said...
"mommaof3 said...
Just wondering if any of you know which church they attends? We as Christians are suppose to tithe every thing we make just wondering if you think she does this and does her church reap the benefits?"

Someone on here once mentioned it being an Assembly of God church. I know there is a huge one in Reading called Glad Tidings but I don't know if that is the one they attend (or maybe I should say don't attend)

3/29/2009 6:10 PM

Nomes said...

Hi again from Australia. Was watching tv tonight and saw an ad for J & K + 8 "Specials" which will air next week, apparently it's unseen footage. Have you guys in America seen these? It was a terrible ad too, with sappy music and overtones of happiness and fun - that's not the KON I know!! LOL!

(Well at least I can probably console myself that those 30 seconds of good footage is all there ever was lol, I'm not going to watch the two specials to find out otherwise)!

I wonder why there is a couple of specials being shown now? Has the Australian public caught onto their KON game, and needs convincing otherwise? Considering we'd be behind in episodes like every other show we get on TV (oh except for American Idol, it's apparently "Hot off the satellite" - I don't know what we are up to, but today's J&K+8 episode was about winterizing the house), DH&H would need to keep the ratings up depending on how many episodes we're behind, I guess. And I don't know if they're shown in order either, but I'd guess we're at least a season behind (or are we, considering how long season 4 went for?).

So yeah, I guess in order to keep viewers sucked into the kon game, that could be a reason why the 'specials' are airing? It's not like it's an Easter special or anything, which would make more sense.

P.S. After searching the tv guide to see what other episodes are coming up, I made the horrifying discovery of finding out the show's on 3 times a day!

Nomes said...

Another horrifying discovery!

http://cgi.ebay.com/JON-AND-KATE-PLUS-8-TLC--TV-SHOW-WHITE-T-SHIRT_W0QQitemZ250386058033QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090309?IMSfp=TL090309124004r15874

Why would you want one? And, do J&K know? Lol I guess if not, then we know there's at least one person out there making money off them without their permission! Exploiting the exploiters, I kinda like it!

Anonymomma said...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/191266

Growing up in front of the camera and what it does to a young child, from a former child model's prospective. Heartbreaking.

Tony said...

Thanks for the link about Kate's family and on the same site I found a clip of Kate talking about her Grandparents adopting her Mom and she mentioned adopting a Korean baby. Isn't there a law that doesn't allow adoption if you have more than four children?

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery-health/33585-jon-kate-plus-8-interview-kates-family-video.htm

Phree said...

I have been reading some of the many posts out there about how despicable Octomom is and all the bad things she does. These are all on sites other than Swop. In each you see them list all of her faults and how she is going to exploit her kids. Using a proper debate style and perfect grammar ( all the better to be taken seriously) I point out how their issues with Nadia are the same things Kate has done. By doing an even compare and contrast I have now convinced more people that J&k are doing the same thing as Octo but it has been going on for far longer.
During the J&K break ( which lasts all of two seconds LOL) maybe others can join me in spreading the Kate/Nadia comparison word so we can get more people to realize that the Gosselin kids are being exploited as well. Just make sure to use their posts as the basis for comparison and state the facts not opinions. Draw on what you learned in high school debate and help me convert more people who think the Suleman situation is a exploitation and money making scheme but think Jon & Kate are cute and entertainment. Also, since these people may not be Kon haters, avoid using nicknames and joking episode references. Explain as if they have not seen the show.
There are so many big child advocate people getting into the Suleman case that this is our chance to point out the hypocrasy of allowing the Gosselinkids to be filmed and treated poorly.
Anyone with me here? We can coordinate talking points and sites we are going to hit if I can get some of you to help me! Thanks! Heather (aka Phree)

Kateaintsogreat said...

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery-health/33585-jon-kate-plus-8-interview-kates-family-video.htm

During Kate's interview on the topic of 'marriage', Kate speaks absolutely nothing relevant to the topic of 'marriage', but goes on and on ad nauseum about 'babies'.

CC said...

I see an episode where Hate has a meltdown after today's announcement:


Retailer Ann Taylor said it would now close a total of 163 stores by the end of fiscal 2010. Previously, it said it would close 117 stores.

Neena said...

Annies said...
Just Moved said...
"mommaof3 said...
Just wondering if any of you know which church they attends? We as Christians are suppose to tithe every thing we make just wondering if you think she does this and does her church reap the benefits?"

Someone on here once mentioned it being an Assembly of God church. I know there is a huge one in Reading called Glad Tidings but I don't know if that is the one they attend (or maybe I should say don't attend)

3/29/2009 6:10 PM

3/29/2009 10:39 PM

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They attend ( supposedly ) Glad Tidings. If you look at their website, go to the pre-school link and you will see Kimberly, the kids pre school teacher/director. Also, in the one episode where they showed them at church, when they are leaving, they show the front of the church, which is the same as Glad Tidings.

My friend's daughter has gone there a handful of times...not regularly....but each time she has gone, she has never seen the G's there.

Swissmiss said...

Regarding Kate's education, it's my understanding she went to a hospital-sponsored program for two or three years. I'm not sure that makes her an R.N. or not. She made the comment that she doesn't want to go back to that profession.

According to the TLC website, the infamous cupcake gate episode is scheduled for rebroadcast on April 1 at 9:30 p.m. east coast time.

I can't imagine why they would want that on the air again. It created a lot of negative publicity.

AnnieD said...

http://www.cliqueclack.com/tv/2009/03/26/kate-gosselin-you-need-to-rethink-your-priorities/

dontgetittwisted said...

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery-health/33584-jon-kate-plus-8-interview-kates-background-video.htm

Kate makes it very clear that beginning at an early age she loved BABIES, always wanted BABIES, was always seen with a BABY in her arms. Kate's affection, albeit delusional, is for BABIES (ie infant pre toddler) not CHILDREN. BABIES are what Kate wants/needs not children. Now that the Gosselin children have exceeded the age of 15 months, Kate's BABY novelty has been replaced by her all consuming attempt to create ,mother, pacify, and promote a new BABY aka Kate's 'career'. Joan Crawford and Mommy Dearest revisted!!

SJ and ME + 3 said...

I caught a rerun of 'A walk in the woods' this morning...In the basement there was a make-shift bed...who do you think is sleeping there? Jon...? You don't think it's Alexis...is it?

Tigerfan said...

According to the TLC website, the infamous cupcake gate episode is scheduled for rebroadcast on April 1 at 9:30 p.m. east coast time.

I can't imagine why they would want that on the air again. It created a lot of negative publicity.


Negative publicity is the ONLY thing that is sustaining J & K Gosselin and their TLC reality show. The season finale of J & K + 8 exceeded 4.6 millions viewers NOT because viewers were tuning in to watch 'J & K face the challanges of raising two sets of multiples' but because TLC timely promoted and hyped the season finale in conjunction with recent tabloid rumors surrounding J & K's dwindling marriage. J & K's 'amazing story' is so yesterday's news, negative publicity and controversy is the current fuel that feeds the J & K Gosselin gravy train.

Wendy Bird said...

SJ and ME + 3 said...

I caught a rerun of 'A walk in the woods' this morning...In the basement there was a make-shift bed...who do you think is sleeping there? Jon...? You don't think it's Alexis...is it?


This episode was so outrageous that it has been stuck in the back of my brain since it first aired. I don't know about the bed, but I assumed that it was where Jon was sleeping, since at that time we had been told that Alexis, not Hannah, who would have her own room.

Jon's frustrations did not start with the walk in the woods. I feel that there was much more going on than what we saw. He was so angry and aggressive toward the kids. Perhaps they had something else planned for the episode that included Kate, and that she either opted out, or just plain refused to participate because she was exhausted. I don't know what happened, but Jon's behavior was inexcusable.

Lisa said...

Does anyone else think it is hilariously hilarious how Jon tries to work in the sponsored "commercials" into an episode? I can't remember which of the season finale episodes it was in, but the whole Allstate thing? Jon: "I got a call from my Allstate agent. He wanted me to check out some stuff on their website" - Jon stares awkwardly at the camera, camera pans to close-up of Allstate's web page on Jon's computer. I couldn't help but laugh out loud to how ridiculous the whole thing was!

Hambone said...

Lisa said...
Does anyone else think it is hilariously hilarious how Jon tries to work in the sponsored "commercials" into an episode? I can't remember which of the season finale episodes it was in, but the whole Allstate thing? Jon: "I got a call from my Allstate agent. He wanted me to check out some stuff on their website" - Jon stares awkwardly at the camera, camera pans to close-up of Allstate's web page on Jon's computer. I couldn't help but laugh out loud to how ridiculous the whole thing was!

3/30/2009 10:13 AM

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My neighbor is an Allstate agent. We were riding bikes and I mentioned the stupid Allstate plug Jon did on that episode, and she said she has never in her life called a client and asked them to check out some things on the Allstate website.

It was clearly a marketing ploy and the Gosselins either got $$$ for the plug or free insurance.

But it cracked me up, too, how Jon acted like he was "working" and HAD to be on the computer before doing anything else. Me thinks the boy is really beginning to miss having a real job and has to pretend / play office so he won't feel like such a slacker.

I do think he is very unhappy having to be around kids all the time. But Kate loves it because it means she gets away from them.

Poor kids.

Name That Pooch said...

Thinking out loud here.....

If Kate refused to name a dog "Poo-Poo or Buddy" because they are stuck with that name for 10 or so years....

Why did she name her child "Mady"?

Buddy? Mady? Not much difference.

lalaland said...

I was just looking at the howstuffworks videos someone posted and on the discipline one, has anyone noticed the stick thing Kate has in her hand? It looks like a thin but heavier cardboard tube from a paper towel roll. She has it in her hand in the living room when Collin is in time out. I wouldn't have really thought about it except she has it in her hand again outside, in the garage when she asks Aiden to say he's sorry. Wondering why she's carrying that thing around? Hmm....

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/tlc/34587-jon-kate-plus-8-discipline-video.htm

Can Mom said...

Does anyone know if they still have their two dogs. I've read on another website that they got rid of them because one of the children was allergic to the dogs. Bad excuse. I can't imagine in a million years Kate having enough patients for two large dogs. Even if she has "people" in her house to take care of them.

Well-Behaved Children said...

I watched the "Walk In The Woods" re-run this morning also. (I work the night shift, so didn't catch it the first time).

I had to turn it off after only a few minutes.

The amount of WHINING and HITTING amongst those children is truly appalling.

How will they ever function in school? That behavior won't be tolerated at school.

That behavior should have been shut down when those kids were TWO,....they are what, almost FIVE now ?

Good grief, I wouldn't want my child in the same class as those children !

Denise said...

The child's name is Madelyn which is lovely. Shortening it to Mady (with her temperament) is unfortunate.

Gina B said...

Just FYI: there is no for sale sign in front of the old house and there never has been. I live in the area and to get to the highway you pass that house.

Why wouldn't a for sale sign be on the house? Don't you want a little marketing?

That house should be priced at around $250 - 265 as well. Very overpriced for that development which is over 10 years old.

Concerned about the tups said...

I get the feeling that they are no longer filming 3-4 days a week. It seems they only schedule events now and are spending more and more of the episode 'in the chair'.

If they do film 3 days in a week it's likely for 3 weeks worth of episodes.

The show becomes more scripted with each episode. Yet of course the children aren't acting, they are only doing what they normally would be. If nothing else, after literally faking the Christmas episode how can they even consider to claim the kids aren't paid actors?

4thekids said...

TLC will be officially announcing the 5th season of J&K by next week. BIIIIIIG surprise...not. We all know Queen Kate will always have her way.

Lila Mae said...

Shari said...
Uuuugh! I just found out my niece is a Sheeple. I'm so embarrassed! Are any of your relatives Sheeple? How do you ever look at them the same again? She even read their book and said it's one of her favorites! I suddenly feel the need to go wash my hands ....

3/29/2009 11:34 AM
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That's funny!

Well, when I first began watching J&K+8 I talked about it quite a bit. That was when they were all younger and everybody still liked everybody else. I think the only ones that occasionally raised my surprise factor were Mady and Kate.

I told my sisters and friends how much I loved it and I told them they would love it too, and hoped they would watch it!

I have eaten those words, believe me. I am actually embarrassed that I recommended the show to so many people, and I always hope they forgot I did such a stupid thing.

I don't want to have anybody think I approve of how Kate treats her husband and kids.

Carrin said...

Courtney said...
ps-
i'm not sure how, but i've still yet to encounter cupcake-gate.
does anyone know the actual name of the episode so that i may try to rustle it up on youtube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex63Ubz9oM4

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How could we all feel so upset when we see these little boys being punished by not letting them have their cupcakes, and it was nothing to J&K.

They just shrugged their shoulders as if it were nothing.

By the way, Jon said he would have eaten all the cupcakes until Kate reminded him that they never eat anything the kids have touched.

Kate was visibly disgusted just thinking about it.

Well, yuk and icky on her!! She is such a tyrant.

lisbeth said...

I just hope the kids have the opportunity to be in different kindergarten classes to give them space to develop a bit of individual independence and socialize with children other than their own siblings.

Aunty Anne said...

Wendy Bird said...
SJ and ME + 3 said...

I caught a rerun of 'A walk in the woods' this morning...

This episode was so outrageous that it has been stuck in the back of my brain since it first aired...

Jon's frustrations did not start with the walk in the woods. I feel that there was much more going on than what we saw. He was so angry and aggressive toward the kids. Perhaps they had something else planned for the episode that included Kate, and that she either opted out, or just plain refused to participate because she was exhausted. I don't know what happened, but Jon's behavior was inexcusable.

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Jon's inexcusable behavior is because he is no longer Jon Gosselin, human person.

He is now Jon and Kate Plus Eight. He has lost himself, 100% because of what TLC has done to their life.

Sadly, Jon took it out on the kids, at least on this episode.

Everyone knows Kate has always treated him like crap, but he now feels like crap.

Cindy said...

Oh, my. Just caught cupcake gate on you tube and that was a really low point for this show.

Just Moved said...

Annies said...
"Honey, you hit the bullseye. That's the big church they go to SOMETIMES"

Holy Moley - that place is enormous. Everytime you drive by, they seem to be adding another wing. I wonder if the Gosselins have donated any of their hard earned money to this edifice. I guess it is difficult to tithe when you have eight kids, an out of work husband and live in a mansion with a dirty refrig.

Sarah said...

I'm slightly confused. I keep hearing Kate mention how hard it is to have a show. What exactly is "hard" about it. Like, it's really hard having to go everywhere for free (I honestly don't care about their freebies, but always complaining? ugh!), or getting to go back stage for every event? Maybe it's for getting paid millions for raising your kids (which she would've done anyway)? Could it be having a beautiful house, 8 healthy, beautiful, children, a husband that stays with her, even when she is really really awful to live with? Could it be that she has the option to stay home with her children, which thousands of women wish they could do, yet she still decides to work away from them.

I just don't get how someone that has received so much, be so ungrateful for what she has and is always wanting more. Always noting how "hard" her job is. How about the mom that has to decide between feeding her child, and getting her child a birthday present? THAT is "hard". Or the single parent that is single because her partner died fighting for our country (or ANY single parent for that matter)? I just don't get it.

I guess what I really don't understand, is that she has hordes of people that call her an "inspiration". The definition of inspirational is "Imparting a divine influence on the mind and soul". Sure, she keeps a clean house, and her kids typically look nice. But an "inspiration" she is not.

I don't say these things about her because I hate her. I don't hate her. I do, however, think she is going to drive her family away. As soon as her children are old enough to understand that she made a living off of their childhoods, and sold their privacy, normalcy, and anonymity to the world, for 15 minutes of fame, I think she will be alone and miserable. Do I think she deserves that? I don't know. But apart from faith, and of the idea that God punishes the wicked, there are natural consequences to our actions. Why risk that?

I just don't see someone that is willing to risk the love, relationship and respect of their family as an "inspiration". So I'll continue to be inspired elsewhere...

jm2ca2n said...

I just caught the Cupcake-gate clip on YouTube. How appalling!! They are the most heartless, dispicable, horrendously horrendous people I've ever encountered.

Kristen said...

I saw this on someone's Twitter about J&K I about lost it!

"When he married Kate, he got three rings when he married her: the engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffeRING. "

MayB said...

I sent an email to TLC with my concerns and objections on the direction J&K+8 has taken. This site has many -hundreds/thousands - of posters and lurkers, but TLC can boast millions of viewers for this show alone. TLC seems to be building a network off the backs of children, as more and more of their programing exploits minors.
It will take real effort to stop this. Even if they read these messages, they will not care. If any of you truely mean what you write, then write TLC, the sponsers, the freebe locations, and the Discovery Channel. Hundreds of people can make a difference! Go the distance!

Gracie said...

Does anyone else find irony in Mady's middle name being Kate? She acts just like her mother!

Pink said...

Sarah, you made some interesting points and I am responding to this part. You wrote; "I keep hearing Kate mention how hard it is to have a show. What exactly is "hard" about it."

I have thought the same thing each time Kate utters that grating sentence. I believe this is yet another clear example of her greedy need to control everything & everyone around her. Kate expects others to reward and recognize her for having it so tough, when in actuality, she really doesn’t. This is all a sham now , just as her stale speeches at the churches and book tour engagements have become. She has no shame & is lying to make their “plight” seem soooo pathetic and desperate and needy. How else are they going to inspire people to give, give and give some more, til it hurts?

Aunt Chris said...

While I was awake in the middle of the night, these 2 numbskulls stuck in my head. If they just celebrated (?) thier 9th aniversary and the twins are 8, where does this long battle with infertility come from?!

And I was also thinking of them as Disney characters (hey, it was 3 a.m.). Obviously Jon would be Goofy. And I hate to say this because I like Donald Duck, but he's pretty crabby and bossy, so I guess that's Kate. Imagine this conversation when KateDonald's time of the month rolled along "JonGoofy, you didn't get me pregnant again!!!!! What's wrong with you?????" "Uh, I don't know KateDonald. Duh, maybe when you took my testicles right after the wedding ceremony that messed things up."

Kacy said...

I may have missed this one, but do we know where Kate went to High School?

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