Walk in the Woods recap

I was excited to do this recap, I kept thinking that an episode where Kate wasn’t at home had to be a great one. Boy, was I wrong. Really, really wrong. continue

137 comments:

fostersmom said...

We don’t even get past the opening sequence when we see kids crying, kids being degraded, Kate bored out of her mind, and bad omens for the rest of the show. Twelve seconds in and you know it’s going to be an ugly, ugly show.

The episode starts with kids running around empty rooms. Apparently, while Kate was labeling all those many boxes, she forgot to tell the movers to pack the furniture. Either that or she’s waiting for the donated stuff, sure to be an episode soon, to arrive. Oddly, while there’s no furniture, there’s random rugs everywhere. Some are even leading a path thru the house. There’s boxes of stuff everywhere. Neat freak Kate really let the ball drop with that one. It scares me to see the kids running on the hardwood with their pajama pants under their feet. Those hardwood floors are slick and those pajama pants are too. One of those kids is going to fall and get seriously injured.

Kate informs us that she was gone for two days in New York and that Jon was home alone with the kids and she hopes he was “Nice and friendly and nice.” Um, huh? Ignoring the fact that Kate had just gotten back from L.A. and was now gone out of state again, what is going on in that house for Kate to have to hope her husband was “nice” to the kids? Jon is a bit offended by that wording, but moves on. This is the second time the kids have been in the woods, the other was for land clearing, this is for hiking. Somehow, I doubt that’s going to be the outcome of this little adventure.

As we see shots of the kids still running around in their pajamas, we are told just how wonderful this house is for the kids. Just incase you didn’t understand when they told you the last 100 times. The kids see things they didn’t get to see when they lived at their old house. Trees, birds, squirrels... you know, cuz birds and squirrels don’t live in the suburbs. Jon pulls out the big words and says different plant species and Kate just can’t let that pass. “What are you, a botanist all of a sudden?” Botanist or someone who’s passed 4th grade science, you be the judge.

As the kids eat cereal (bibs and lidded cups with straws accounted for) Jon has to dig for jackets. This is a harder process than it needs to be. Nothing is unpacked and he’s slicing open boxes looking for play coats. That old “moldy” fridge is seen in the background along with another one, but the moldy one looks to have it’s doors open. Guess it was just too horribly horrible to use. Leah has to wear her good donated ski jacket, the one Jon says she’s never going to wear again anyway, but play coats are finally found for the other five. Whew! I was so worried that the crises wouldn’t be adverted!

Somewhere along the line the kids got dressed, and amazingly enough, we didn’t see it! Yay, we’re making some progress! Or, it was the nanny who dressed them and she’s got to remain hidden off camera. Jon tells us that last night they all danced for 2 and a half hours. My inner bitch has to ask... was that after Kate’s plane took off? He also tells us that the kids are exploring father and father away from the house. That could really be dangerous at the new house, I hope someone is watching them.

The crying begins. Leah doesn’t want to go out in the woods, she wants to play on Jon’s laptop. It’s time to paint the kids in a bad light. Kate can’t muster up the strength to hold up that head of hers, all the hair on one side makes it lopsided so she’s got to hold up that side with her fist tucked under her chin. She tells us that Joel and Aaden of course wouldn’t like the woods. Jon confirms Joel hated it. Alexis and Hannah would like it, Jon has to tell her Alexis didn’t. Finally, Jon is tired of Kate chiming in on the walk seeing as she wasn’t even there, and crosses his arms and says “Why don’t you just interview, since you were there.” I feel like I’m watching marriage counseling. These two couldn’t be more shut off to each other if they tried. Both are leaning away from the other, arms crossed over their chests. Kate’s got one leg pulled up to her chest. I’m not a body language expert, but this doesn’t look like a very happy couple to me. Kate says “I’m just guessing, excuse me.” “Well, it’s ridiculous.” “Oh gosh, I’d hate to steal your spotlight, go ahead and talk.” This is just such an unhappy and ugly exchange.

Leah is still crying about having to go out in the woods, it’s boring. Jon tries to divert her attention with the mention of a tractor ride, but that’s boring too. I guess that’s what happens to little kids who have parents who think that they must have expensive trips or special events to be entertained all the time. Mundane things like your own private forrest just aren’t cutting it. Reap what you sow, reap what you sow. Jon, the model parent, informs us that you can’t leave a four year old alone in the house, Kate snarks “No, really?” and I want to throw up.

Finally, they are out the door. We learn that the kids all have sticks from their last trip, they are piled in the corner of the garage. This is news to Kate. Obviously she didn’t go out with them the last time, but none of the kids mentioned this? She didn’t see the pile of sticks in the corner? Hello... Kate, are you there? Ever?

It’s time to visit one of the out buildings and a cat that lives there. Not surprisingly, the cat wants nothing to do with this idea. I don’t blame it. As Jon looks around, the kids are all lined up at the door with their sticks. Pushing and shoving, with big sticks in hand. Big pointy sticks. The cat is terrified and I am too. I’m just waiting for a kid to get hurt. And we hear an “ow”. The first of many, I’m sure.

Kitty torture time is over and the kids and their sticks make their way to the woods. Collin likes to collect stuff, sticks, leaves, rocks. Joel is sobbing and wiping away tears. Jon says that some of the kids don’t like the cold or the outdoors, but he’s basically forcing them to. Kate says “They need to. We have the area, they need to be out there.” Maybe the kids would like it better if they weren’t forced to go on this death march of sorts and if their mother hadn’t spent the first four years of their lives screaming over every little speck of dirt. Or showed the smallest bit of interest in being out there with them. Kids are crying, stumbling along with sticks in hand, getting poked in the face with branches, and Jon is using his stick to push the kids along. He tells Aaden to “Walk like a man.” Lovely, I’m sure that will stick with Aaden for years to come.

They finally make it to a clearing. Joel is crying the whole way. Jon says he’s ignoring him and that there were deer there until Joel came along. Joel falls and Jon doesn’t even call back to him. And there’s Joel’s lasting memories of the day. One of the girls, either Alexis or Hannah pokes a boy in the back with her stick. The kids are told they just missed the deer because they were crying like a baby. This causes more tears. This is just so painful to watch at this point, I can’t wait for the episode to be over. Jon gets all excited about the deer and decides it’s a great idea to leave the kids sitting alone, well alone with the camera guys, while he treks off to find the deer. I’m at a loss for words at that decision. Hannah pokes Joel with her stick, Aaden says no hitting and hits a stick with his stick, and it’s looking more dangerous by the second.

Jon tells the kids to follow him to where he’s standing and Alexis pokes Hannah with her stick. Hannah cries and Jon asks what happened. He grabs the stick from Alexis, she cringes and cowers like she expects to be hit, and he breaks her stick in half and tosses it into the woods. Poor Alexis is covering her mouth in horror and starts to cry. Jon treks ahead with Hannah and says “I know, she’s mean.” I really, really hope that he wasn’t talking about Alexis. But I think he was. More crying about sticks ensues.

For some reason they are climbing thru a fence to get back into the yard. That goes as well as you would imagine it would. Jon’s growing shorter and shorter with all of the kids at this point. He takes Collin’s sticks and tosses them over the fence. Not only is this rude, but he could have hit another kid with a stick. But Jon has a tractor to ride, and by god, he’s not going to let the kids slow him down. Collin pitches a fit about something and Jon grabs him by the arm and drags him off. They all walk back towards the house. Thank you, this death march in the woods is finally over.

It’s tractor time. Jon tells us how he takes the kids on tractor rides all the time, he just goes all over the place and he takes one kid at a time. Kate asks what does he do with the other kids, while he’s driving around. Again, where is Kate all the time that she has no clue as to what’s going on in that house? The kids are left to their own devices, he can see them playing in the yard. I hope the nanny is watching them better than their parents are. Collin and Jon go get the tractor, the rest of the kids are left at the house. Alone, with the nanny, with the camera crew? Who knows. Kate doesn’t think that tractor rides are safe, but she’s been out ruled. Seeing as how she’s never there to see what’s going on during the rides, I think that is more than appropriate.

The kids and Jon are driving the tractor all over the place. Jon tells us about how they like to drive. Kate looks like he’s talking about some random kids that she’s never met and doesn’t care to ever meet. She has no interest at all in what’s going on in their little lives. That’s just sad. We get to see the kids playing in mulch and just having fun in the yard. That’s more like it, that’s what I want to see all the time.

Blood. Uh oh, there’s been an injury. And no, it didn’t involve a stick. Hannah has somehow hurt her toe. It was at one point bleeding, and her nail is gone. She says “I didn’t even know this was going to happen.” I have to laugh, that’s just such a four year old thing to say. Kate seems really uninterested in the injury, writes it off as an old wound, and makes a face. Now that Hannah is aware if it, it’s more of an issue than it was while it was bleeding.

Back in the house, the kids have walkie talkies that they are playing with. Leah’s yelling at Hannah thru it, Jon’s teaching them how to use it, and they all are enjoying themselves. Jon makes them a real lunch! I’m shocked. Sandwiches, grapes, chips and they have banana bread for dessert. They had a nice peaceful lunch, no crying or screaming, and it’s quite a nice sight. Kate finally shows some interest and signs of life... talking about how great her new house is. And that makes me want to throw up again.

cerdo said...

Nice recap. This is the first episode I've tried to watch this season. I came in when they were already in the woods and didn't make it past "walk like a man"... this show sickens me.

Chrissy said...

Yea, I forgot about the dancing for 2 1/2 hours. I call bs on that = what 4 year olds have the attention span to do anything for that long? Has Jon been taking exaggeration lessons from Kate?

babeeberry said...

If these 2 idiots have old, empty fridges in their basement I hope they have the sense to make sure the kids can't get into them. I remember years and years ago hearing of a child that got stuck in an empty fridge and couldn't get out. The end result was not pretty.

The poor children are never given positive feedback. Nothing they do seems to warrant any praise, or hugs or kisses. Most of their day seems to be yelling, screaming, hitting and tip~toeing (sp?) around their volitile parents. No wonder Hannah has migraines already...Oh, and no child that is being raised by loving parents would flinch when a parent is around, unless that child is expecting to be hit..jmo of course.

Can't Stand Keight said...

What I caught was how Kate now enjoys gettin up early because she has a beautiful bathroom. What.... having 8 beautiful children isn't a reason to get up? Only for a new bathroom? Very shallow.

Beagles 4 said...

Excellent recap, since you probably had the most boring episode to write about. I thank you for making it more interesting than watching.

NO MORE KATE said...

Kate could care less about her husband or her children. It is quite obvious. Her "supporters" claim she was yawning because she works so hard. I call BS. She is "popular" because she is supposed to be some type of supermom but she is never home to be that supermom.

Anyone who supports Kate Gosselin, who has used her children to become rich and infamous, is reprehensible.

8 kids or not, this does not make her an expert at anything except exploitation of children.

Kenzie said...

Finally, they are out the door. We learn that the kids all have sticks from their last trip, they are piled in the corner of the garage. This is news to Kate. Obviously she didn’t go out with them the last time, but none of the kids mentioned this? She didn’t see the pile of sticks in the corner? Hello... Kate, are you there? Ever?
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My first thought when I watched this part of the episode was "how in the heck can Kate not be aware of what her children do"? I think collecting things and getting excited over little things (eg- a walking stick) is adorable behaviour for children. Even if Kate wasn't there, it boggles my mind how Jon doesn't mention any of this things to her once she returns from her "business trips". My hubby works out of town and when he calls at night I have at least 2 or 3 stories per day of all the "cute" things our daughter has done through out the day,how ever random they might be. Is Kate seriously that disinterested in her children that she doesn't even care to ask what they did while she was gone? I just find that everytime there is an episode that Kate is not there for, half of the couch interview is spent with Jon telling everyone what happened and Kate acting like it is the first time she's heard everything.

Dee Dee said...

This show IS getting painful to watch. You can tell that they are all just so finished with performing for the camera. Jon knows this outing is doomed from the start, whether he lets them play in the house ("What, they have this nice big plot of land and are inside playing video games") or makes them walk the property - he's going to get blasted in the blog world anyway. Another point - they show Hannah missing a toe nail with those stupid croc shoes sitting right next to her. My toe nails get caught in the holes of crocs, why wouldn't little kids? But then it couldn't be the fault of one of their corporate sponsors poducts, so of course "nobody knows" why the injury occured.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

I felt bad for the kids on that walk. Yes, kids need to get outside, but half of them clearly weren't interested in the woods, it was chilly and they had only coats, no hats or gloves. They have help with the kids, so why not take the interested hikers and let them have a ball. Jon would have been happier as well. The tups are starting to develope their own interests and it is going to be hard to get all six on board with some of these activities without some of them melting down. As far as the tractor rides, my grandparents had a farm and my sisters and I did all sorts of things on that farm that would have made DYFS cringe, but we survived. Some of my happiest memories were of tractor and rowboat rides and spending countless hours roaming the farm with no adult supervision. Hopefully, Jon is careful to ensure the kids are in another part of the yard while giving rides just to be safe.

I agree with Kate looking like the interview was a HUGE bother! The yawning, the looking off to the side and the body language are all telling. I agree, J&K do not look like a happy couple.

Excellent recap 3F!

Leene said...

Every time I watch the show I ask myself what am I doing??? Last nights episode was horrible, seeing Jon pull the kids by the arms, breaking sticks because he was frustrated and being so short was the last straw. I really do think J&K is on its last legs - every episode just gets worse and worse.

Jen K said...

Very nice recap! Great for those of us who have stopped watching the show for various reasons. :)

Thank you!

From what I can gather about this episode it was a solid couch bitchfest, which is more than I can handle on any given day. Life is hard enough at times without having to watch people bit** and moan about how hard their lives are when they are blessed people who should be kissing the ground their kids walk on for what they have given them.

Thanks again for doing the dirty work for us and watching and recapping! :)

REAAALLLYYY??? said...

Kenzie said...“Is Kate seriously that disinterested in her children that she doesn't even care to ask what they did while she was gone?”


Yes, the woman is completely and utterly out of touch. It is ALL ABOUT HER. She is a classic narcissist. It is sad … she has all of these adorable kids. I’m sure they’re a lot of work, but she needs to step back once in awhile. She’s given an opportunity to do that while she’s “out of town working” … but there is evidence that she does not. And yes, Jon should be telling her these things when they talk while she’s out of town. Another sign that they don’t talk or communicate, and things are on the downward spiral for them.

Sad, just sad. Truly.

Karen said...

Holy shoot. My TWO YEAR OLD knows not to poke his brothers with a stick. What was up with all the poking with each other going on?

And yeah, sounds like some of the kids have been perfectly conditioned by Kate to hate the following:

a) dirt
b) being outside, because there is dirt.
c) physical exertion.
d) being with family

It seems Kate is less and less enchanted with her own family the more fame and recognition she gets from total strangers. That's a classic narcissist for you. The nasty comments she made to Jon are very like the sarcasm my mother used on myself and my brother. Ugh.

melodee said...

all that crying and whining gets on my nerves. i end up muting the tv until it's over.

kate acts like she could tell the whole story, it seems like she is always taking the words out of jon's mouth. and for someone who corrects other's grammar all the time, you would think she would beyond reproach on that!

if jon was smart, he would have taught all the kids how to speak korean, that way kate can't butt in. oh yeah, but that would require jon to be smart.

Melibee said...

There was some discussion in the other comments section about a black SUV being seen in the 3 car garage, and then some disputes saying it was just the big blue van.
I just re-watched the episode and there is one quick shot where there is DEFINITELY a black SUV or large truck in that garage. You see only the front of it, like the headlight bumper area, and in the same shot you can see the blue van parked over a couple spots.
This shot is seen in scene where Jon is discussing the sticks in the corner of the garage and Hannah is standing in that corner with a boy tup saying something about "this is daddy's stick".

While I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if J&K are out buying fancy new vehicles, I am also considering the fact that the camera crew has to have transportation to the house too and it's possible it is the crew's vehicle. ???

June C said...

In this episode it looks like Kate is bored with their little tv show now that she's a "star" traveling to NY and LA. I'm sure she enjoys the perks and money so she won't cancel the show. She'll just do her thing while Jon and the kids are on the show and she will make "guest star" appearances. She makes Jon do everything else, why not be the only one filmed with the kids?

I love my son! said...

After reading over the posts, I broke down and watched it. This was terrible. Alexis didn't just flinch when Jon grabbed her stick, she coward down like she was going to be beaten. I can remember not to long ago when Kate and Jon said to "parent out of love and not out of anger", I guess Jon threw that over the fence along with Collin's sticks and leaves.

Regarding Jon and Kate, who gives a crap if they're unhappy in their marriage. First, they will never divorce while the money and trips are still being offered to them. Second, no man (unless he is a glutton for punishment)would marry, let alone date Kate. The only way divorce would be an option is if Kate allows it. This is a person (Kate) who controls every aspect of their lives, from what they eat to when they wipe their asses.

Wendy Bird said...

Thank you, fostersmom for the recap. I now proclaim these to be recraps instead of recaps--recapping the crap that TLC peddles as exploitainment. Hey, if Keight can make up words, so can I.

I didn't watch and I am glad.

Jennifer said...

Hopefully, Jon is careful to ensure the kids are in another part of the yard while giving rides just to be safe.

Yes, but what about the kid on his lap during the ride? Isn't there the very real possibility he/she could slip off?

I don't have kids and have been an urbanite all my life, but it just seems like common sense that you wouldn't take kids on tractor rides.

Lexie said...

Whoa, I missed Jon telling Hannah that Alexis is "mean." What a jerk...

Dee Dee said...

Kenzie said...“Is Kate seriously that disinterested in her children that she doesn't even care to ask what they did while she was gone?”

Hello ... why should she bother when she can watch it later on TV?

Countrygirl said...

If Alexis is mean it is their own fault - sticking her by herself in the basement at the old house - what do they expect.

We go to a farm show every year in Memphis and one of the vendors gives away yard sticks. I hate walking around the Convention Center looking at things and having to worry about someone poking me in the eye or something with one. The walking sticks would be the same problem. I live in the country and you can walk quite well in the woods and pastures without one.

rachel said...

I couldn't believe that Kate was sitting there, with her eyes closed and head hanging. I don't think TLC is getting their money's worth from her if this is how she is acting in an interview. To think she made thousands, just sitting there half asleep.

Stef said...

"I don't blame him for getting mad once in a while - he has a lot to contend with, eight kids and a hypercritical wife. When he broke Alexis' stick and threw it away after she hurt her sister, I must say I didn't blame him."

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The problem I have with this is that Jon didn't just take the stick away calmly, or make Alexis put it down. He could have calmly told her that since she was not using the stick properly, she has lost her stick privileges.

Instead, he jerked it from her, snapped it in two, and chucked it. It really was an act of violence. It was sad to see Alexis cower like she did, but it was easy to imagine what she felt at seeing Jon lose control of himself with that violent outburst. It's dangerous to be around kids if you can't control your anger.

God knows those kids cry and whine a lot. It would be a lot for anyone to take. But Jon really needs to watch it.

Caesar Milan, the Dog Whisperer, is always talking about how a dog owner's energy can affect the dog's behavior. If the owner can't remain calm, this will often escelate a high-strung dog. I wonder if the same principles can apply to kids, too.

MomAdrian said...

LOST: in eastern PA area, moving van full of things to sit on. Family, particulary mother, exhausted from standing.

Kenzie said...

Kenzie said...“Is Kate seriously that disinterested in her children that she doesn't even care to ask what they did while she was gone?”

Dee Dee Said..."Hello ... why should she bother when she can watch it later on TV?"

hahahaha my bad! Silly me, what was I thinking? LOL! This family dynamic is just all kinds of wrong, and the sad thing is, these children are going to follow in the foot steps of their god awful parents if someone doesn't step in and save them.

Abigail said...

Kenzie said...“Is Kate seriously that disinterested in her children that she doesn't even care to ask what they did while she was gone?”
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You don't know that Kate didn't ask. I don't know that she did ask either. I'm jst saying you cant state it as a fact that did is disinterested in her kids, or that she didn't ask what they did.
camera's werent there when she got home.

JateSucks said...

I have no doubt that this show will soon come to an end. I think Keight is carving out a nice little career for herself as an "author" (I use the term loosely) and public speaker.

She has made sure that Jon can never leave her. The man has no college degree and has not had a steady job, well...as far as I can gather, EVER.

As much as I think it's better for Keight to be away from the kids, I don't think Jon is the one they should be left with.

His constant invalidation of their thoughts and feelings makes me sick. The way he treats the 'tups as a UNIT makes me ill. I get it, they have a lot of kids, but they are INDIVIDUALS and they are old enough to be treated that way.

Emotionally exhausting? Damned right it is! But that's what parents DO!

R in Texas said...

When Kate dragged her brood on the talk show circuit to discuss the octo-nightmare, she grabbed Alexis's arm vulcan style with an accompanying death stare during a televised bit. During this particular episode, we see the same child visibly cower when her father breaks a stick over his knee in front of her.

If a kiddo needs to be redirected, do it. However, Alexis and her brothers are becoming older, and their words and body language suggest that obvious favoritism is turning into something that is not only "ugly" but borders on the edge of inappropriateness.


Again, I give it about fifteen years before the tell alls begin to flow.

older and wiser said...

Karen said:
It seems Kate is less and less enchanted with her own family the more fame and recognition she gets from total strangers.
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You hit the nail right on the head. It's the oh-so-sad truth.

Tami said...

Have to disagree with your criticism of Jon's trip to the woods with the brood.

The kids are always screaming, crying and hitting each other - that would drive me nuts! Why aren't they taught just to be quiet sometimes?

I don't blame him for getting mad once in a while - he has a lot to contend with, eight kids and a hypercritical wife. When he broke Alexis' stick and threw it away after she hurt her sister, I must say I didn't blame him. He must be at his wit's end with stuff like that. Is it too much to ask that Alexis be nice to her sibs and not hit them?

Remember, he was content with two, but Miss Bossy prevailed and now look.
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Oh give me a break. Hannah is no angel either. Alexis is not the one usually hitting, the older girls are! Well, actually they ALL do. Alexis should not be singled out whatsover. But of course she is yet again. You know..if the kids are so awful, maybe one should look to Jon and his parenting of them and not just blame the kids!

winston said...

I couldn't believe that Kate was sitting there, with her eyes closed and head hanging. I don't think TLC is getting their money's worth from her if this is how she is acting in an interview. To think she made thousands, just sitting there half asleep.

THANK YOU!!! She is making all of this money and she does not even have the decency to sit up and act interested for the interview. If a "normal" person acted like that on the job I think they would be fired. Would it kill her to pretend to be interested, considering this is her gravy train? If I were getting paid the way that she is, you better believe I would be trying to act my best.

Its A Good Thing said...

Thanks for the recap. I didn't watch and Im sure I enjoyed the recap more than I would have the actual show.

Steph said...

this was the saddest episode ever...that walk in the woods could have been so much fun. after being a parent as long as he has, you would think john would learn the art of distraction! let's look for this or gather that or pretend this or follow the leader...that man doesn't have a clue. and the tractor just terrifies me...he is going to back over one of those kids.
and was it to much to ask for kate to stay awake during the couch interview? it's your job girlfriend...get with the program!

just wondering said...

I did not get to watch this episode but reading the recap I noticed there is no mention of Mady and Cara, did I miss something here, or where they not in this episode?

shmedelle said...

Nice recap. Thank you.

I am by no means a recycling fanatic, however, I do make a point to recycle as much as I can.

Does anyone else cringe when they see meal after meal being served on paper plates?

I know 8 lunch plates are more than the average family would have at a given meal, but how hard would it be to wash plastic plates that only held a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

With Kon having a t.v. show, one would think that they would want to set a good environmental example for "the world to see".

They seem so unaware of themselves.

Jennifer D. said...

He could have guided them through the woods and showed them things to look at. The endless march seemed pointless.

I was sad when he threw the stick over the fence. Jon gets emotionally beaten by kate and I think his nasty feelings overflow into his reactions with the kids. I am not excusing him, but I can't imagine where he would muster many good feelings with the constant berating he lives with.

Doesn't it seem like a time bomb is ticking? It can't go on like this forever.

Level Head said...

Thanks for the recap, nice job. I didn't watch the show but then after reading all the comments on here I caved and watched it on Youtube.

I agree with a lot of the sentiments here. I don't have children and was fairly appalled at their behaviour/all that screaming and hitting but presumed that I was out of touch with 4 and a half year olds, and was just being critical. Thanks everyone here for showing me that my first thoughts were right! How anyone can live with that melee going on I don't know. Of course, Kate doesn't have to, she's usually not there.

Several things struck me about this episode:
1. They've lived there a few weeks and this is only the SECOND time the kids have properly been outside? Are you kidding?? It wasn't that cold - after all I don't think you could see anyone's breath. At that age I would have been out every day weather permitting of course. Wasn't that the point of having this property? So that they could run around?
2. Bizarre that few of them even WANTED to go outside. That strikes me as VERY odd for little kids and has been reinforced by various posters here.
3. Kate loves the house but hates nature and outside. Why did you buy a house like that then??
4. Kate gets up "earlier" now because she likes her bathroom. Excuse me?!?
5. They've lived there several weeks and don't seem to have unpacked anything.
6. I guess their furniture fell off the back of the moving van on the way to the new house. How sad.
7. Why do they use paper plates ALL the time? I'm sure they have a dishwasher.

Jon and Kate should be ashamed of themselves. Forget about the free stuff, free plastic surgery, pimping out your kids etc etc. It's one thing to "share" your life on tv with everyone if it is "perfect" (which after all, no one's is, but whatever), but when you life is one unmitigated disaster, your children are so badly behaved, you can't show enthusiasm for what is supposed to be your "job", are probably on the road to divorce and the mother of the family isn't remotely interested her kids or what they've been up to (after all they are her piggy bank) it's quite another.

Deary me. Horrendous.

Jennifer D. said...

Did anyone see Kate on Larry King? She claims they have no outside help.

timetogokon said...

Nice recap. Thank you.

I am by no means a recycling fanatic, however, I do make a point to recycle as much as I can.

Does anyone else cringe when they see meal after meal being served on paper plates?

I know 8 lunch plates are more than the average family would have at a given meal, but how hard would it be to wash plastic plates that only held a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

With Kon having a t.v. show, one would think that they would want to set a good environmental example for "the world to see".

They seem so unaware of themselves.

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Just another example of how the Sara Snow episode way back when was total BS. Hey KON, where are the recycling bins that "the kids were so excited about making"?

BTW - they do not use 8 paper plates per meal, they use 16. Kate mentioned in one of the episodes that they double them up....so, so wasteful. If Queen Keight has 2 washers/dryers, why not have 2 dishwashers? It's not like she's doing any of the work anyway....

laura linger said...

There are too many awesome lines to quote from this recap, but this has to be my favorite:

"Trees, birds, squirrels... you know, cuz birds and squirrels don’t live in the suburbs. Jon pulls out the big words and says different plant species and Kate just can’t let that pass. “What are you, a botanist all of a sudden?” Botanist or someone who’s passed 4th grade science, you be the judge."

Hilarious and true, and we live in the suburbs, where we feed birds and other wildlife that comes to visit from a feeder hung on our decidedly suburban tree.

Good show! Muy excellente!

shmedelle said...

timetogoKon said

they do not use 8 paper plates per meal, they use 16. Kate mentioned in one of the episodes that they double them up....so, so wasteful. If Queen Keight has 2 washers/dryers, why not have 2 dishwashers? It's not like she's doing any of the work anyway....
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It just goes to show how muche she cares about anyone but herself...
and I know that some communities have better than others regarding the ease of recyling...but come on, wouldn't that make for a good "memory" for her kids. It's 2009, Kon, you have a huge family. Recycle!!!

Anyone remember the epi when Jon was running errons... such work, going to the bank to cash checks when he is unemployed. What a chore!! Anyway, he had to stop at a dumpster to get rid of cardboard (from all the Fedex boxes, I'm sure).

Anyone know if they recycle at all?

Do they have a recycling center in their community?

There are bigger problems than recycling with this family, for sure, but, this wastefulness irratates me!

shmedelle said...

Berks County does have recycling.

Sidney said...

The recap was amazing! Somehow I had to laugh at the recap, though the show wasn't as fun to watch.

I am hoping that episode taping was the only time Jon was alone with those little kids. I am hoping he was off at the gym or golfing or some other stupid thing just to give those kiddos a break.

I am hoping the nanny is a good woman who truly loves those little kids and lets them just play like little kids play and doesn't expect them to go on a "march of death" instead of simple play.

I am hoping that so much, but since we will never, ever see the nanny, we don't have any idea what she is like. But she couldn't be any worse than either of these parents, so let's think positive.

jaded said...

R in Texas said...
"When Kate dragged her brood on the talk show circuit to discuss the octo-nightmare, she grabbed Alexis's arm vulcan style with an accompanying death stare during a televised bit."

I noticed that too and was horrified at how Kate treated Alexis. The little girl seemed to shrink to half her size and kept rubbing her arm where Kate grabbed her. She just looked so sad; it was heartbreaking!

Both Jon and Kate act like spoiled teenagers—moody, sullen, and self-involved. They're emotionally ill-equipped to raise a family. Instead of all the ridiculous trips, homes, and other crap, TLC should spring for intense parenting classes, family counseling, and maybe a couple of full-time child psychiatrists.

One more thing: The recap left out the episode's punchline. After a half hour of whining, crying, and general unhappiness, Kate turns to Jon and says something like, "You know what really makes it all worthwhile is that the kids are so much happier in the new house."

What show have you been watching, Kate?

Irene said...

Looks like this is the beginning of the end for this show. Mady and Cara not seen for 2 weeks, Alexis looking at the camera, confused, "why are you looking at me". It seems that both sets of kids are at new developmental stage where they are much more aware of what is happening.

I agree this week's show was the saddest.

Simba20 said...

Just another example of how the Sara Snow episode way back when was total BS. Hey KON, where are the recycling bins that "the kids were so excited about making"?

Just saw a re-run this morning and they were int he garage of the old house, holding toys. It was the episode where Kate interviews and tests out Nannies.

Exhausted said...

Can't Stand Keight said...
What I caught was how Kate now enjoys gettin up early because she has a beautiful bathroom. What.... having 8 beautiful children isn't a reason to get up? Only for a new bathroom? Very shallow.

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I thought it was very telling that she called it "her" bathroom. I have a feeling she and Jon ain't sharing any room. They are like roomates who share a place but agree to never be home at the same time.

Irene said...

Looks like this might be the beginning of the end of the show. Mady and Cara not seen for 2 weeks, last week Alexis looked up at the camera and asked, "Why are you looking at me?" Both sets of kids at new levels of development and becoming very aware of what is happening.

I agree that this week's show was the saddest. I think they may regret the move.

timetogokon said...

Just saw a re-run this morning and they were int he garage of the old house, holding toys. It was the episode where Kate interviews and tests out Nannies.

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Well, I guess in Keight's eyes, toys are recyclables since she gets them for free and "recycles" them at yard sales for profit.
Heck, Kate probably sold the bins at the yard sale too " how would YOU like to own memorobilia (Jane's words, not mine) created by The Gosselin 6, er, I mean 8, and Sara Snow!!"

moma4faith said...

"My first thought when I watched this part of the episode was "how in the heck can Kate not be aware of what her children do"? I think collecting things and getting excited over little things (eg- a walking stick) is adorable behaviour for children. Even if Kate wasn't there, it boggles my mind how Jon doesn't mention any of this things to her once she returns from her "business trips". My hubby works out of town and when he calls at night I have at least 2 or 3 stories per day of all the "cute" things our daughter has done through out the day,how ever random they might be. Is Kate seriously that disinterested in her children that she doesn't even care to ask what they did while she was gone? I just find that everytime there is an episode that Kate is not there for, half of the couch interview is spent with Jon telling everyone what happened and Kate acting like it is the first time she's heard everything."

Ahhh, but we must remember, this isn't a family. It is a business. That's how they run things. K8 doesn't care about anything cute or imaginative from the kids unless it is going to make more money. So very sad.

Exhausted said...

Isn't it funny that Kate was always a selfish tyrant but the old Kate still looks like a warm Mrs. Cleaver compared with the detached, unavailable nip-tucked ghost that we see now.

How often do you think she calls home to check on the kids or hear about what they're doing when she's away?
What does she do when she finally returns home after an exhausting meeting or tour? I'm guessing she tells the kids to stay out of her way because she needs to unpack and unwind?
How long after she's home does Jon jet off somewhere (to a bar, to Utah, to a cliff)? I'm guessing the couch is one of the only times they're together, and in their "real" life (as opposed to their contrived life on TV) they are never with the kids as a united family.
I cannot imagine being given the opportunity to spend more time with your kids and have most financial worries alleviated--only to spit on that and give the kids a worse life than they had when you were "poor."

Kelli said...

Great recap, I was so sad watching this episode. I remember watching episodes from awhile ago and how fun and cute they were, but certainly not anymore!!

Side note:
Kate was on Dr. Phil today talking about the octuplets, and their mom. Is that lady ever at home with her kids?

iheartmyhubby said...

I thought that Jon did the right thing by making all of the kiddies go on the hike even if some didn't want to. He probably knew that there would be some complaints at first, but they might all have fun in the end. I say GOOD FOR YOU, JON! He isn't letting his kids stomp all over him the way they do when Kate is around.

It seems that even though he wasn't the kindest way, it did seem like he was at least trying to keep the yelling and screaming down and trying to teach them that they are too old to be behaving the way they were, which is what we all think of those kids.

I am not a Jon and Kate supporter, but I do think that Jon is a better father when Kate is not around.

As for the stick thing, he was so short with those kids and it looks like his aggravation was showing through. Alexis hit Leah/Hannah on the head with her stick after being told not to, and so she got her stick taken away...in a very Jon-like manner, but at least he followed through and disciplined by taking it away.

Those boys are acting like babies because their mother, who controls what everyone in that house does when she is around, promotes that behavior. I know many people don't agree with me, but Jon telling Aaden is not so terrible. I bet he wishes his kids didn't act like babies when they in fact are not even toddlers anymore.

This episode made me like Jon just a little. He was trying, Kate was absent, and the kids had fun and a real lunch doing what normal kids might do, which is what I like to see more of.

And P.S., Kate is a nasty bitch who obviously was mad the show contained very little about her. Her and Jon probably had a HUGE fight before the interview. And this is the second show where her feet were shown with those socks on. Maybe she is a spokesperson for them?

firsttimegrandma569 said...

I am new here but have been watching J&K since they first began a few years back.
In reference to fostersmom's recap of last episode, her recap could not have been more on the mark. I was shocked and annoyed at the way the kids were treated and virtually ignored! J should be ashamed of himself in even allowing a 4 year old to carry great big, pointy walking sticks. Myself a mom of two teens could hear my mom chanting in my ear, "They are going to poke their eyes out!" while watching them poke each other in the back, arms, heads, etc.
I ignored Kate and her disinterest in the kids, my hubby can not stand her and neither can I, although I do a good impersonation of her whenever we are in the local BJ's--HELLLOOOOOOO I'm over here!

LOL!

bec said...

I by no means am giving these two props for anything,but Jon is the main caretaker now.I mean besides the crew,nannies,chefs,housekeepers etc...Jon is still the better parent always has been.Most men need guidence from their spouse and let's face it uhhhh he has been guided by Kate who is a total and absolute B@#CH!Every parent has their days I'm not excusing his behaviors ,but it's way minute compared to the things Kate has done to her children e.g. cupgate,joelgate,gumgate,Hanniegate,Madygate.She emotional abuses her kids all the time .At least you do see Jon interact on a playful level with his kids on many occassions.He can't help what he sees remember allhe does have to answer to queen CRAZY afterall!!!

momof1plus1plus2 said...

iheartmyhubby? You thought the kids had fun and that Jon was doing a good job with them? Did we watch the same show?

Poor kids have no where to turn. An absent "exhausted" mom who isn't interested in them, a dad who is short tempered and doesn't have a clue what kids are actually like, and a bunch of hired help and a camera crew. Who is loving them and nurturing them and showing them that they are people of worth, and not just people who can make their parents money?

shawna said...

jaded said.....

One more thing: The recap left out the episode's punchline. After a half hour of whining, crying, and general unhappiness, Kate turns to Jon and says something like, "You know what really makes it all worthwhile is that the kids are so much happier in the new house."

What show have you been watching, Kate?

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That is they funniest comment I have heard in a long time!!!

LOL

lisagg said...

This episode surely made me sad for these children. Things could have been so different for a walk in the woods with six 4-year-olds. What would I have done differently? Well...
Hey guys, let's go explore in the woods and see what we can find!
Let's see if everyone can find
something different to save and take home.
Let's play I spy - what can you see first before anyone else?
Let's see if we can see any animals.
Who can find a red leaf?
Look at how tall these trees are!
Wonder if there are any frogs in here?
We could build a maze with paths to walk on in these woods!!
Where would you like to have a playhouse? Would it be a fort or a dollhouse? What else could it be?
Do you think any of the animals are cold? What do you think they eat in the winter time?
And on and on and on ... such a missed opportunity for these kids. I made sure that everything I did with my only son was full of things to think about and figure out for himself. It was always creative and he enjoys so many things now. KON need some serious parenting lessons. I would love to see Dr. Phil get a hold of them and tape their mouths shut and just make them listen to him, or the old T. Berry Brazelton - Remember him? There are so many ways to enjoy children of this age and teach them how to behave pleasantly. How do you think a preschool or kindergarten teacher would have handled an outing like this - with much more than 6 kids, I'm sure they could have had a very enjoyable outing with very little fighting, hitting, poking, crying, etc. I am so sad for these kids, they will be the most obnoxious older children you can imagine, just wait and see!!

Marlinch said...

Ummm...has anybody seen Maddy & Cara? I think the only time I've seen them in the new house was the day that Kate was cleaning the fridge, or did I imagine them? I'm sure they're at school during the day, but I'm surprised we haven't seen them as much in the new house...just wondering....

Kat said...

To Marlinch,

My best guess would be Cara and Mady have made it clear they don't want to be filmed and to save more screaming and crying they decided to film while the girls were in school. Either that, or this ep just didn't need them as we all know it's ALL about the tups.

Anonymous said...

I actually felt for Jon as I have four kids and while my hubby like to hike half our kids do not. Yet he makes them get outside - there are always some grumpy kids complaining. It does make a person short-tempered - my kids are now much, MUCH older than the Gosselins (17,17,15,13) so we can leave at home the ones who do not want to participate. Watching this show did take me back, though, to the days when we tried to get kids ages , say, 7,7,5,3 to walk in the forest preserve,etc.

I agree with other posters about the basement 'fridges - if they are not full of food then TAKE THE DOORS OFF or some kid will "hide and seek" inside and you will have a tragedy!

Sorry for any typos - still having morning caffeine.

JFS in IL

2badsosad said...

This episode surely made me sad for these children. Things could have been so different for a walk in the woods with six 4-year-olds. What would I have done differently? Well...
Hey guys, let's go explore in the woods and see what we can find!
Let's see if everyone can find
something different to save and take home.
Let's play I spy - what can you see first before anyone else?
Let's see if we can see any animals.
Who can find a red leaf?
Look at how tall these trees are!
Wonder if there are any frogs in here?
We could build a maze with paths to walk on in these woods!!
Where would you like to have a playhouse? Would it be a fort or a dollhouse? What else could it be?
Do you think any of the animals are cold? What do you think they eat in the winter time?

I agree. Jon could have ENGAGED AND ENCOURAGED the tups to explore their surroundings ! How about a marching song , what colors do you see, how the woods will look and feel different in the summer, look in the trees for squirrel nests etc.. After all , it was Jon's 'idea 'to take them for a walk in the woods, the least he could do is TRY to make it a fun experience for his children instead of being annoyed and belittling his children.

honeyhush said...

Great recap! Even better than watching the show! I'm concerned about Jon's actions with the arm pulling, denying of sticks, etc. Maybe with Kate gone so much it's taking its toll on him. Very disturbing behavior.

ThreeFarmers said...

I really just hope that the kids learn to love that land that they have. Having that sort of environment right outside your back door is so fortunate.

AnneMarie said...

Most of the stick poking was accidental. In fact, the whole episode on the log started with ONE accidental bump, when one of the girls turned to look the other way-her stick went the opposite direction.

As for Collin and the leaves and his stick. ARGH. That poor child picked three leaves from a whole forest that he wanted, THREE. All he was doing after climbing over the fence was looking for his third leaf that Jane ripped from his hand. When they were ripped away again, of course he had a fit. I cannot believe how hard he was yanked, spun and ripped up in the air by Jane. Notice that camera shot is cut short and then reshot from about 30 feet from the back. HOW much did we NOT see? Hmmmmm????

AND he won't leave them alone in the house, but he'll leave them alone all over the yard, while tractor riding with another. Farm machinery is NO PLACE for kids.

I'm ok with them wandering the woods with a parent, nanny etc. Sticks are fine, that's how you find out things are sharp and pointy. Basic skills. Oh wait, they don't have several of those, no one is teaching them. They're supposed to be babies. I keep forgetting that.

Don't even get me started on Still using bibs and high chairs.

And what good is a privacy fence around the property going to do ? The house is up on a huge hill. A good 12x zoom and anyone can see anything they want from the public road.


And what the Heck did Jane think he was going to do if he caugh UP with a deer? Feed it, pet it??By the time he saw those deer, or better yet, they heard the kids coming, that group of does, was in the next county. OH and btw Jane, deer ticks. Lime disease. OH and watch the stags during the rut, they'll kick you to pieces if you get between them and a sexually satifying moment - so to speak.

I don't see true love or affection on this show, not between Keight or Jane, not between either of them and ANY of the kids. I see the whole thing as a toleration situation. The adults would rather be off doing anything else other than being around and doing things WITH the kids. Unless it's a trip that comes about BECAUSE of the kids, they don't travel with them, and still they aren't "with" them. Even the twins are resenting their siblings, and aren't shy telling the world about it.

TICK TOC TICK TOC

Jennifer said...

She has made sure that Jon can never leave her. The man has no college degree and has not had a steady job, well...as far as I can gather, EVER.

I actually think that Jon would do well if he were to leave her now.

I'm no expert on child custody matters, but I'd guess that Jon would stand a good chance at getting primary physical custody given that he has *always* been the primary caregiver of all the children; further, Kate is the one with the higher earnings potential (as a licensed nurse and as the who is at the forefront of the family business), so it's likely that *she* would be required to pay *him* child support.

And if the kids have any say in who they want to live with, well, then that just about seals the deal for Jon, doesn't it?

Given all that, I think it's utterly stupid for her to continue to treat Jon like trash because if he walked out, where would she be? She can in no way raise those kids on her own (for all intents and purposes, Jon's already a single parent) and would probably have a nervous breakdown. I don't get why Kate consistently acts like she's got one over on Jon; he's the one holding all the aces.

mods said...

Anonymous said...
I find it interesting that so many people (Kate supporters). remark about the octomom and her "makeover", but if someone would post a picture of Kate about one year after the tups were born, she and Jon are sitting on a sofa with them, her hair is darker, medium lenght, bangs etc. She looks so different then, before her "makeover"
If someone could post a side by side pix of Kate you could all see the remarkable difference! I think if Kate still looked like the "everyday" Mom most of us look like
instead of a movie actress the press would not be so interested in her. She used to look like a somewhat upscale Dugger not a Posh look alike!

Its A Good Thing said...

I wonder if they will end each episode saying "The kids love this house, they really needed it" or something to that effect?

Mommy in PA said...

"The kids see things they didn’t get to see when they lived at their old house. Trees, birds, squirrels... you know, cuz birds and squirrels don’t live in the suburbs"

In the suburbs in PA, you get to see all kinds of animals. I live in the suburbs and see deer almost everyday. There's also a hedgehog and a fox that hang out in the neighborhood. Oh yeah and plenty of birds, squirrels, and rabbits that come by too.
In southeastern PA even where there suburbs, there are also plenty of wooded areas around, and the animals are constantly wandering out into the open (not to mention the animals that wander down from the Poconos/Appalachains). It's totally normal. I really don't believe that they didn't see any animals in their old house.
How about trees and plants? Ever take your kids to the park?

As for the "missing" furniture - the new house probably looks so empty because they bought a much larger than needed mansion. Their old furniture is there - it just looks like a lot less because while it fills an average size house, it doesn't fill up a mansion.

Personally I think they should have interviewed Jon without Kate for this one since she can't even bother to spend the time with her kids.

And why is it that Jon can't leave any kids in the house alone while they walk in the woods, but he leaves the rest alone while taking one at a time on the tractor? What sense does that make?

Sasha222 said...

OMG Hilarious! I usually loathe these recaps but this one was funny as hell.

Someone mentioned that Hannah gets migraines?? Does Kate realize how bad this is, and what kind of clues it entails? No four year olds should be experiencing migraines (I mean there are some medical conditions that cause them), but it's obvious that Hannah's are caused by stress and noise. Poor kid.

Anyone see Kate on Dr. Phil? *puke* Love how she claimed all the volunteers left cause they couldn't handle THE KIDS anymore...lmao

Althea said...

It sure looks like the show is circling the drain, and I hope it won't take much longer for even the sheeple in the deepest denial to snap out of their spell.

The sextuplets are getting to the age (and the twins already well there) where the "cute factor" doesn't mitigate their behavior. The tups are out of control, they act like wild animals, wailing and hitting--with sticks, no less!

Jon acts more like a 16 yr old cousin/babysitter than a 30-something father. His parenting "skills" are nonexistent at best. He's impatient, and frequently downright mean. He also seems to be becoming more and more resentful of Kate assuming the leadership role, both inside and outside the home.

Kate by the same token, seems to be becoming more and more overtly contemptuous of Jon. In the past it was an occasional outburst, but mostly sarcasm that if you wanted to be in denial, you could stretch your imagination and think was a lame attempt at caustic humor. More and more it's obvious she's not even half-joking-around. Whatever she found attractive in Jon's man-child boyish charm in the beginning, and evolved into a mild annoyance, is now full-blown contempt. The show no longer has even an occasional second of cuteness, there is no longer a shred of anything remotely sympathetic about this family, yet it lacks the "drama" of a freakshow like "Celebrity Rehab". How JK+8 attracts an audience anymore is beyond me.

KatesNoMom said...

MomAdrian said...
LOST: in eastern PA area, moving van full of things to sit on. Family, particulary mother, exhausted from standing.

2/11/2009 1:26 PM

Oh my! That sent my tea across the keyboard! LMAO

pippu said...

Thanks for the recap. I'm glad I didn't watch, it sounded awful.

I bet we'll see these folks on E! True Hollywood Story in a few years, and this episode will be a key focus.

Melissa P. Gentry said...

IMHO, Jon and Kate fight A LOT about who gets to travel next. Can you imagine the arguments those two get into about that topic? Especially when Kate comes back from one of her EXHAUSTING trips and NEEDS Jon's help with all those kids. Jon wants to get away from all those kids. I bet it is an neverending battle between the two of them.

LKG said...

Why in the world does Kate act like she is so exhausted. She travels away from her family constantly and has plenty of alone time and uninterrupted sleep time. And when she is home she has plenty of household help. Aunt Jodi is probably twice as exhausted and has every right to be.

bradleymom said...

Jennifer D. said...
Doesn't it seem like a time bomb is ticking? It can't go on like this forever.
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Great observation - you put into words some "off" feeling I have been having watching lately. It really does seem like something is building up, and it's not going to be pretty when it (or she) blows.

I think Kate believes she is completely impervious to the backlash they are receiving, after all, she has been ignoring this for years and has still managed to do quite well with book deals and endorsements.

I guess we can just wait and see - but the real issue is, I don't envision anything coming down the pike as good for the children. What a hot mess!

ruthy said...

It's A Good Thing sais....

I wonder if they will end each episode saying "The kids love this house, they really needed it" or something to that effect?

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I am also tired of that phrase and so help me if she says the word "clustered" one more time...

"The kids are no longer "clustered"
in the new house. They are not as "clustered". I think there may be a new drinking game in the works at my house on Monday nights.

Neighbor said...

Ummm...has anybody seen Maddy & Cara? I think the only time I've seen them in the new house was the day that Kate was cleaning the fridge, or did I imagine them? I'm sure they're at school during the day, but I'm surprised we haven't seen them as much in the new house...just wondering....

I think they are in school during filming. I am surprised people are upset by this. It's a good thing that their parents are respecting their wishes, isn't that the goal here? They didn't want their room filmed at the old house so it was off limits. They didn't want their playroom filmed much at the old house, off limits. They are not not on every episode as maybe they aren't wanting to be on camera as much. I think it's great that they aren't being forced into it.

Heather said...

Worst show ever!

Merilee said...

J&K have said they will "do anything" for the kids.

More and more I believe that "anything" includes Kate playing the part of the witch. Though it comes natural for her, I think they both play it up for the cameras. Neither J nor K even attempt to act civilized. After all, they said that they will do anything for the kids. They know their rotten personalities sell their show, their products, their name. Jon said they are now a corporation when he was in Utah.

Whatever sells, keep it up!

Its A Good Thing said...

ruthy said...
It's A Good Thing sais....

I wonder if they will end each episode saying "The kids love this house, they really needed it" or something to that effect?

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I am also tired of that phrase and so help me if she says the word "clustered" one more time...

"The kids are no longer "clustered"
in the new house. They are not as "clustered". I think there may be a new drinking game in the works at my house on Monday nights

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Ha! I must say that a great solution to Kate's "annoyingness" is to not watch. I didn't watch this episode and I feel much better with my self. Because after all nobody is forcing anybody to watch.

discoball said...

How long until Kate actually gets an apartment in NYC and only comes home on filming days?

Pre-k Teacher said...

I have been reading these blogs for some time now, but I have never posted. I can no longer keep quiet. In reguards to the stick fiasco. I teach 2,3,4,&5 year olds. Most children love nature and the first thing they will pick up is a stick. However, they should be no more than two inches above their elbows and never raised above their heads. The sticks could have been made into a project, peel off the bark, wrote their names on them and let the children decorate them. Walking sticks for everyone! Also, when kids go on walks, give them bags to collect treasures! Thanks for listening.

bradleymom said...

Its A Good Thing said...

I am also tired of that phrase and so help me if she says the word "clustered" one more time...

"The kids are no longer "clustered"
in the new house. They are not as "clustered". I think there may be a new drinking game in the works at my house on Monday nights.

2/12/2009 9:43 AM

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Okay - if we ban "clustered" we also need to get rid of "disperse". "The kids can 'disperse' themselves throughout the house".

If we can't ban these two at least make them double for a drinking game - that is the only way I can see myself getting through this crap!

Sue said...

I'm also a mom to eight (one at a time, thank you) and what I want to know is why these children, with the exception of Cara, cry all the time? No matter where they go, no matter what activity they are participating in...the children cry. Furthermore, the crying doesn't seem to faze the parents one bit. I've seldom seen one of these parents give comfort or attempt to redirect the unhappy child. Recently a Fourth of July episode was rerun, the little kids were three years old. After the parade, Kate was dragging the kids (who were holding on to that ring thingy of theirs) down the street. A couple of the children were crying hysterically but Kate continued to drag them, seemingly unconcerned of their misery yet all the while greeting and chatting with others along the parade route. Does this woman not feel shame or embarrassment with her actions?
Jon and Kate make Al and Peggy Bundy (from the old, Married With Children, show) look like very functional parents. Now, that's sad!

HappyMommyAndWife said...

I wonder what would happen if everyone who reads this blog boycotted J&K+8 the next episode on 2/16? If a massive number of us refuse to watch it, maybe it could be a ratings protest to TLC to indicate that we the viewers will not support filming and televising such horrible episodes that shamelessly demean those precious children and portray such an unloving couple.

As much as we all complain about how horrible the episode was, we watch it anyway. I for one will not watch nor DVR the next episode and hope TLC get the message. Anyone with me and willing to boycott just one episode? I sure hope so!

PityTheFools said...

Ahhh... If only we could all live the average, everyday, stressed-out life of these hard-working superparents! It must be tough to pack up all those children and travel around the world, staying as a VIP guest in such places as DisneyWorld, Hawaii, San Diego, Utah, etc. only to be forced to return home to your sprawling 1.3 million dollar estate. How ridiculously trying it must be to have to round up the gang and take them out for a nature walk & tractor rides for all on your own, incredibly boring property. I really feel bad for these poor, selfless parents with their tummy tucks & hair plugs. What a horrendous disaster they were stuck with, 8 beautiful and intelligent children. Why, that's almost more than any one couple could contend with! I don't know how you do it, Jon & Kate. Here, here's some of my own money for you. You obviously deserve and need it... It's not like you chose to have all these children, right? Oh, wait...

lifeoriley said...

"...last night they all danced for 2 1/2 hours...was that after Kate's plane took off?" LOL --I wonder which songs Jon had playing?

The recap was funny--yet sad at the same time. Jon seems to have some anger and resentment built up-- also, breaking Alexis' stick was a very immature thing to do. Take it away, yes--break it and throw it?, no. As others have commented, at least try to make the outing fun for the kids--after all, they're doing it for the show, which, in turn, provides Jon and his wife with a very nice lifestyle.
As for Kate's sullen mood--well, that's no surprise. The show wasn't all about her and how "hard, exhausting, (fill in the blank)" her life is.
Also, as another comment stated, I bet they do have arguments over whose turn it is to stay home with the kids. Kate probably comes home from her "business" trips EXHAUSTED--and needs a break--more than Jon does ;). I'm sure the last thing Kate wants to hear when she gets home is how hard it was for Jon and that it's HIS turn to get a break.
Yes, Kate, I imagine travelling in a limo to NYC, getting your hair and makeup done so you can look good for your interviews/appearances is very hard work. Then you have to trudge back to your nice hotel, eat a meal that has been prepared for you (room service, restaurant) and sleep in a bed that has been made up for you. If things are not too hectic, maybe you can sneak a spa treatment or mani/pedi in there as well. Whew! No, you sure don't need Jon telling you about his time with the kids while you were away--after all, you're EXHAUSTED.

fostersmom said...

Neighbor said...
Ummm...has anybody seen Maddy & Cara? I think the only time I've seen them in the new house was the day that Kate was cleaning the fridge, or did I imagine them? I'm sure they're at school during the day, but I'm surprised we haven't seen them as much in the new house...just wondering....

I think they are in school during filming. I am surprised people are upset by this. It's a good thing that their parents are respecting their wishes, isn't that the goal here? They didn't want their room filmed at the old house so it was off limits. They didn't want their playroom filmed much at the old house, off limits. They are not not on every episode as maybe they aren't wanting to be on camera as much. I think it's great that they aren't being forced into it.


I'm torn on this issue and that's why I didn't mention it in the recap. On one hand, I'm thrilled that the twins are not being forced into these taping fiascos. It's obvious they don't enjoy making the show and never are happy when they are dragged along on these days. On the other hand, this is a family show, about their family. How much would it hurt your feelings at 8 years old to find out that whole episodes could be made about your family and you didn't even rate a single shot? As much as the twins seemingly don't want to be involved in the drag alongs, it would still sting to be completely left out. Does this mean the twins are being given a choice to participate or does it just further reinforce that the whole family revolves around the tups? I just don't know.

Jane in California said...

Thank you for the recap -- I told myself that I just can't watch this train wreck of a show anymore. I'm hoping its ratings plummet and TLC will finally not renew it!

The description of the forced march through the woods was very sad. It breaks my heart to hear of Joel crying and wiping his eyes, falling and his dad just ignoring it and walking on. These are young children, with tender hearts -- even if they are whiny sometimes, little things mean so much! Slow down Jon, take a deep breath, and ask yourself what's really important in this life? We all fail as parents from time to time, but doesn't it touch your heart to realize you've behaved badly? He should have calmed down, apologized to the kids for yelling, and regained control of his emotions. Poor Alexis too - I just hope Jon feels ashamed of scaring his own child.

As to Kate - well, what else is there to be said. She's an absentee parent. Is she on drugs or something -- why is she practically falling asleep during the interview?

She is just too rude and hateful for words. Someone else said that she was contemptuous of Jon -- that the little things about him that used to be just irritating have overtaken everything and when she hears him talk, sees him in action, whatever -- all she feels is contempt. I think that's true. Now that he's served his purpose - providing her with the sextuplets that she can utilize to get tummy tucks, whiter teeth, trips all over the place, free clothes, and a brand new mansion -- she's lost interest in having him around. Gee, sound familiar? She is repeating the same pattern as she has with everyone else in her life. When their usefulness wears off, they get tossed to the curb. Jon - you're next, just as soon as she can accomplish it!

The saddest of all is those children -- the sooner they start school, the better. They'll at least be away from their parents for a certain number of hours each day, they will have a chance to make friends, and hopefully some of their worse behaviors will be corrected. If they are lucky, their teachers will model appropriate ways to speak to others, or maybe they'll really be lucky and be allowed to have friends they go visit. They can then see how mature, caring adults who love one another treat each other. It will be a real eye opener!

At some point, Kate just checked out. I saw an old rerun of this show awhile ago, and the difference amazed me. I rolled my eyes at some of her neat freak-outs, but I she actually seemed happy to be a mom. I saw her hugging various children, laughing at their antics, laughing happily at some of the things Jon said. I saw the two of them actually feeling as if they were a team. I saw a harried mom who did seem to be trying her best. Now, I see none of that.

ThreeFarmers said...

Terrific recap.

I have to say--and this is just a guess on my part--that fewer and fewer of GWOP readers seem to be watching that horrible program.

Its A Good Thing said...

fostersmom: If I were Mady and Cara I would be upset. I didn't watch this episode but I know that last week Mady and Cara aren't even mentioned. I think they could at least say they are at school. Its just not fair, it seems like the twins are out of Kate's life because "they just don't know how to help our family any more".


So sad.

Its A Good Thing said...

HappyMommyAndWife said...
I wonder what would happen if everyone who reads this blog boycotted J&K+8 the next episode on 2/16? If a massive number of us refuse to watch it, maybe it could be a ratings protest to TLC to indicate that we the viewers will not support filming and televising such horrible episodes that shamelessly demean those precious children and portray such an unloving couple.

As much as we all complain about how horrible the episode was, we watch it anyway. I for one will not watch nor DVR the next episode and hope TLC get the message. Anyone with me and willing to boycott just one episode? I sure hope so!

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I think that is a great idea. I am not watching because I really don't want to see Kate complain that her donated dryer is dented. I didn't watch last week either, the only way to get rid of the show is to not watch.

ThreeFarmers said...

I really believe that the show is definitely playing to Kate's strengths--her nastiness. Their fans think her bitchiness is what makes her real and, I suppose, more relate-able, so they defend it because it validates their own shortcomings.

How horrible is it that so many strive for justification rather than self-improvement.

cindy said...

getting back to comment how much kate changed not only her looks....remember the episode where she showed her belly ..next thing you know a dr. did the tummy tuck for free...and during the consult she had the nerve to ask for a boob job...he told her all she needed was a good bra..but i could not get over how greedy that was

Its A Good Thing said...

I was going through my bookmarks and I went to the Gosselin house listing and the price has been reduced from $350,000 to $330, 000. I bet Kate thought the sheeple would scoop that house up.

Here is the link:

http://www.brwnstone.com/properties/details.asp?ListingID=10174495

MomAdrian said...

Oops. Just reread the rules, and I was illegally trying to start a petition. Sorry about that! But just like some other posters, I do agree not to watch this show again. This last episode was so very sad that it has become very difficult to watch. I keep getting flashbacks of little Alexis' face when Jane broke her stick. And I still picture the little boys' faces when they were not allowed to eat their birthday cupcakes. It is too painful to continue watching adults bully little children.

cathy m said...

I have been reading these blogs for quite some time and this is the first time I feel a need to post a comment. As soon as they showed Kate on the so called love seat, I looked at my husband and commented she looks high as a kite. I have had some experience with people overmedicating themselves with xannax. They tend to nod in and out and make no sense when they try to speak. Kate appears and acts as someone that is taking these pills like tic tacs.....this would also explain her having no interst in what the kids are doing, even if she was told....she wouldn't remember...very sad for a woman with 8 children

machinegunsmom said...

GAH. I've never heard any of the 4-year-olds I know describe anything as "boring," being as most preschool-age children are wildly imaginative and inventive and most would relish the opportunity to go exploring 27 acres of much-wooded land. Maybe if they weren't being prodded along "death march" style and yelled at or forced to partake in this for the sake of cameras and production crews to pay for their own house...

But this has all been said before. I would just like to point out, though, that Aaden is not a man. He is a 4-year-old little boy. If I were Aaden, I would have said "Go to work and support your family like a man. Stand up to your shrew wife like a man."

ANYWAY. My ideal episode of Jon & Kate + 8 would go as follows: it's a Saturday morning. Jon & Kate have no jobs to get to, of course, and have chosen to forgo jetsetting around the country to collect love offerings, so they let all 8 kids crawl into bed with them. After lounging around and having some family time, they all eat breakfast together...once again, no one has any place to be. It's a wholesome breakfast, I don't mind if it's organic, just as long as the kids are allowed more than bird nibbles. The ENTIRE family of 10 decides to go exploring for "A Walk in the Woods." No one is yelled at, nothing is forced. The kids get to take turns being the leader. A few of the tups and Mady are "bored," so Kate thinks of a fun game to keep them interested. Maybe it isn't the kind of game where there has to be a winner, maybe it is and the winner gets special one-on-one time with their mother. In my game, Collin or Mady win and Kate helps Mady with her homework or takes her to lunch, Collin picks out a book to read or a game to play and Kate happily obliges.

Everyone ends up enjoying themselves and that darn TLC camera crew just can't find any horrendous moments to make the family look bad.

They spend the afternoon decorating cookies. Together. Kate doesn't flip out over the mess, doesn't tell the boys they can't touch anything with their yucky hands, doesn't degrade Jon, doesn't show preferential treatment but is willing to help all of her kids.

After the family eats dinner together that Jon and Kate prepared TOGETHER while Mady and Cara happily and willingly organize an activity to keep their siblings busy, ALL of the kids are allowed to eat the cookies. Even the boys.

When it's time for bed, Jon ends up being the "bath-giver," but Kate helps to comb the girls' hair, oversees them brushing their teeth, and reads them a story (possibly in her forbidden bed)while the boys are being showered. While the girls are allowed to play quietly, Kate goes off to do post-bath duty for the boys, helping them find their pajamas and reading them their story. Jon and Kate work together to put all of their six younger children to bed and kiss them goodnight (none of that "you take the boys, I'll take the girls" nonsense). They spend some quality time with Cara and Mady before sending them to get ready for bed.

This is quite possibly how a normal, functional, maybe even overly-happy family would hope to spend a Saturday together. This is how a family with more money than they can spend and all of their needs as well as their wildest dreams met SHOULD be able to spend a Saturday. KON has nothing to complain about. Eight beautiful, intelligent, unique children (though most of those characteristics are slowly being crushed), a mini-mansion to be envied, 27 gorgeous acres to be explored, money to burn, the adoration of millions (though that number is fast dropping)...can't they set a friggin' example? Can't they appreciate it and give us a happy family to watch?

The icing on my little cake would be Joel or Collin wetting the bed/getting sick/having a nightmare in the middle of the night and Kate helps him with his problem and lets him crawl into bed with her and Jon without yelling at him or threatening a "punishment of severeness."

tmc said...

Not sure where to put this, but in my local paper is said Jon and Kate will appear at the Gateway Church in Parkesburg, PA (which is in Chester County) on 2/22/09. The website is www.gcwired.com. I went on and there was no information on prices. It's literally right up the street from my house.

sarah said...

At least Jon makes sure they go outside, whether they like it or not. I agree with the poster that the kids are ALWAYS screaming. At least they were getting fresh air. I too would have broken Alexis' stick as Jon did. The only difference is that my daughter would not have cowered in total fear. Regarding the tractor, I think it's fantastic Jon gives them rides. I believe that's why my dad and I are closer than he and my sister. I was always the one begging to go for a ride. We had great talks and a bonus - I'm a great driver. I'm glad that the kids have at least one parent that does fun things with them. They didn't enjoy this walk in the woods, but there will be others that they will enjoy. Kudos to Jon for not letting the veg in front of the tv.

hxw11h said...

Im sure we'll see Mady and Cara again when they go on their next ridiculous trip.

yeaisaidthat said...

"At least Jon makes sure they go outside, whether they like it or not."

Then the 'least' he could do as a responsible parent is dress them in cold weather appropriate gear ! Obviously, Jon made certain that HIS balding head stayed warm with that knit cap pulled tightly down over his head past his ears!

Its A Good Thing said...

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2190-Andrew-Avenue_Elizabethtown_PA_17022_1106127609

Its another link of the old house, only this time the home was actually cleaned first, well at least the kitchen was.

No More Exploitation said...

yeaisaidthat said...
"At least Jon makes sure they go outside, whether they like it or not."

Then the 'least' he could do as a responsible parent is dress them in cold weather appropriate gear ! Obviously, Jon made certain that HIS balding head stayed warm with that knit cap pulled tightly down over his head past his ears!

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My whole life I have had issues with ear aches if I go outside in the cold air without ear protection. And it doesn't take long for the pain to start.

Possibly these children were experiencing some ear pain or extremely cold hands since they had no hats or gloves. Several of them have had problems with earaches on the show.

I know it is a pain to deal with 6 hats/hoods and 12 pairs of gloves, but that is what parents do for their precious little ones.

Its A Good Thing said...

Prudynce said...
Just a question...
but at one point everyone here was screaming because Jon and Kate were living off the kids and didn't have a job.
Now that it appears Kate does have a job...everyone is mad at her because she is not home with the kids.
I'm confused.

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I think its the fact that the only reason Kate has a job is because of her children. Also the fact that she does the show is so her children can have two stay at home parents may have something to do with why everybody is upset.

ThreeFarmers said...

Just a question...
but at one point everyone here was screaming because Jon and Kate were living off the kids and didn't have a job.
Now that it appears Kate does have a job...everyone is mad at her because she is not home with the kids.
I'm confused.


Kate's "job" is promoting the show/books/DVDs and keeping her kids popular. As long as J&K keep using their kids to increase their own popularity, they will be criticized. Kate's "job" only exists if her kids continue to be exploited.

ApologizeKON said...

I saw this posting on the Reading Eagle article/blog from 2/3/09:

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I can tell you that the doctor was furious about the way Kate portrayed their house. They had a cleaning crew come in and clean that house from top to bottom before they moved it. The doctor's wife wrote Kate a letter and told her how they felt and they received a check reimbursing them for what they paid the cleaning crew and the check and letter wasn't even from the Gosselins. The didn't even have the courtesy to appologize to them. I don't think the Doctor's business suffered because he doesn't have a private practice.
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I am surprised that Keight didn't send a signed copy of "her" book along with an autographed family photo with that check.

Heidi said...

3Farmers,

I think you are right. I have not been watching. Not even on YouTube. Not even re-runs. If I have a choice between watching Keight or watching a nature show all about skunks...well...
Did you know skunks come with all different patterns on their fur?

Mrs. A said...

Very excellent recap -- I didn't see the entire episode, but I did catch the crying children previews and I did flip through and see Kate's snarky comment about "ruining Jon's interview" or whatever it was -- and I knew I wouldn't be able to stand watching the whole thing, so thank you for the recap.

I just want to ask this: what 4 year-old kid doesn't like to go outside? I've raised five of them and all of them, without question, could not WAIT to go outside -- anywhere outside, any time of the year, it didn't even have to be in some huge wooded backyard (which we don't have) but just in a driveway or to a park or for a walk -- I just find it so odd that those kids didn't seem to want to be outside, most kids I know cry when they have to come in the house, not when they have a chance to go out.

Its A Good Thing said...

ApologizeKON said...
I saw this posting on the Reading Eagle article/blog from 2/3/09:

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I can tell you that the doctor was furious about the way Kate portrayed their house. They had a cleaning crew come in and clean that house from top to bottom before they moved it. The doctor's wife wrote Kate a letter and told her how they felt and they received a check reimbursing them for what they paid the cleaning crew and the check and letter wasn't even from the Gosselins. The didn't even have the courtesy to appologize to them. I don't think the Doctor's business suffered because he doesn't have a private practice.
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I am surprised that Keight didn't send a signed copy of "her" book along with an autographed family photo with that check.

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The only way she would have sent a signed copy of the book and a photo was if she sent a bill right along with it.

sarah said...

You guys are right about the hats! I had totally forgotten about that. I stand corrected.

1stgradeteacher said...

I read the comments and then watched the show. I was expecting something horrible and I thought it was fine. Nothing like cupcake gate or gum gate.

Alexis needed to go with everyone. No child gets to decide what they want to do all the time. She needed to experience the outdoors. All the other complaints... I just didn't see it that way.

I would have put a bandage on Hannah's toe and Collin needs a brown paper bag, so he can collect his things.

I was impressed that Jon had a stick for the kids to use on all their walks. The kids love riding on the tractor. (It was a tractor, not a mower, big difference for safety.) He had a good rapport with them at lunch, joking and laughing about dessert.

Personally, I would have told the kids if they cried for no reason (i.e., they weren't hurt) then they would sit on a chair when they got inside. Some kids really aren't as outdoorsy as others, but everyone can go and not make the trip unpleasant for others.

I know it was cut and pasted, but I would actually have made the kids act better. I think Jon and Kate get defeated and let the kids act up way too much. The it gets really bad and Jon and Kate pop. I'm a teacher of first grade, and sometimes, Jon and Kate remind me of teachers that have given up. I understand kids act differently at home (they really do), but these tantrums need to be cut in half.

There are ways, without being mean or spanking, to get the kids acting better, so everyone has more fun. But, it takes some effort.

Tangerine Tanya said...

First having beautiful twins girls was just NOT ENOUGH.

A nice home that was a good size for the family was just NOT ENOUGH.

The nannys/helpers/housekeepers were never GOOD ENOUGH.

A husband who does alot more then Kate does and then most husband/daddies is just NOT ENOUGH.

Has she had ENOUGH of Jon?

I say ENOUGH of Kate!

I love my son! said...

ApologizeKON said...

I am surprised that Keight didn't send a signed copy of "her" book along with an autographed family photo with that check.
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That was priceless!

Storm said...

I just read the Reading Eagle blog from Feb 3. Someone keeps refering to her as Katie Irene Kreider. Guess that is her maiden name. Google it and you find some interesting info.

I am from the Reading PA area and now I live in South Bend IN. I talked with a few people who saw her in Indianpolis at the home show. She did not make a very good impression. Very little mention about the kids or "her money saving ideas" and "how to run a household." Instead it was all about Kate. People were getting up leaving as she was talking. Very rude to those who waited in line to get her book.

Kon is not very well liked in the area that she lived in or has moved to. Hopefully people are catching on. Smug little biotch.

2badsosad said...

Just a question...
but at one point everyone here was screaming because Jon and Kate were living off the kids and didn't have a job.
Now that it appears Kate does have a job...everyone is mad at her because she is not home with the kids.
I'm confused.

Kate's 'job' is EXPLOITING her children plain and simple, whether it be, promoting the J & K + 8 reality show, their book (s), 'the family business (that exists and is based soley on the exploitation of the children), her 'persona'ie, expert, super mom, etc.. which the sheeple and faithful fans 'buy in to' and are 'in awe of' requiring no other evidence to support this 'fact' other than 'she has EIGHT CHILDREN' and the ramblings of PR hyperbole. Kate's JOB is MAKING MONEY OFF OF HER CHILDREN! EXPLOITING her children for the sole purpose of pursuing and fulfilling HER personal and monetary agenda!

mollybloom said...

Thanks for the recap.

I enjoy not watching this show. It's about as interesting as watching mold grow in a refrigerator

Call me Brenda said...

As a long time watcher I have to admit that when Jon snatched that stick from Alexis and broke it over his knee it actually frightened me! And that poor child looked like she thought the end was near!

I am bummed that I found this website. lol. I have been a fan of the show since season 2 and when the whole Nadya Suleman saga started I was generally interested in what Kate had to say. But google opened up a whole world of negative information and it makes me sad.

I have come to enjoy watching the babies grow up (I adore Collin and Alexis and wanna take them home!) and while it has always been apparent that Kate is a shrew and Jon is henpecked, it was still a "fun little show" ya know?

I take a lot of the complaints with a grain of salt...if TLC wants to pay them enough to "work from home" that they buy a million dollar house then good on them. I mean for heaven's sake my friend is a $30k teacher and her modest small home was $200k because that was what the market dictated in our area..spread out over a 30 ear mortgage life goes on begrudgingly...so in this day and age a lot can determine what actually makes a million dollar home...but if that is what you are doing...accepting TLC's money instead of someone elses then be honest about it.

I really don't pay much mind to the press junkets and books and cover shoots and prduct placements and million dollar home....I pay mind to the fact that over time they no longer seem to even be able to fake being happy on camera.

Maybe it's the stress of the show, maybe it's the stress of being "famous" or maybe it was emotionally easier when the kids were littler...or maybe it is edited that way because happy doesn't sell as much as controversial...but it makes me sad.

Arieslikekate said...

Like I have said before, this show has "jumped the shark ".

Bigger, better houses are not the answer if there is not a "family" to live in it, and the mother is not globe trotting all over the universe to further "her career".

Stay home Kate. You will have time in about 14 years to go on talkshows.

Arieslikekate said...

I loved the preview for next week when the new furniture/appliances arrive and Kate goes ballastic over a dented appliance.

Oh lord, her show house and they send a dented appliance? Heaven forbid.

We see where Kate's priorities really are....

KK523 said...

At work yesterday, I met a man from Wernersville, PA. I said, "oh, the town of Jon and Kate Plus 8". His reply was,"yeah, they are the most unliked people around there."

marypoppins said...

I saw this episode again this weekend.

Seeing the girl tup's rection when Jon was breaking her stick over his leg was much worse the second time.

Whats going to happen when she grows up and sees this?

I wonder what his mom, kate's parents, Jodi and Beth, her school teachers think when they see this.

marypoppins said...

Actually they have signed on for season 5 and Jon and Kate will be producing their show.
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I wonder what that means exactly. -them producing the show.

And does that mean that the real producer got fired?

Are we going to see a radical change in the show or some sort.

Sidney said...

RE: The March of Death.

Heh! Funny way of describing it, but sure says it all.

When my baby learned to walk I decided to take a walk around the block with him.

He kept bending down to see ants, little rocks, cracks in the side walk, etc.

I thought to myself, we will never get around the block at this rate. So, I guess that goal was sort of like the March of Death.

Then I shook my head, sat down on the front steps and let him explore right in front of our house. The March of Death was not necessary.

The little tups could have had fun just doing their own thing rather than the March of Death Jon insisted on, even telling little Adian to "walk like a man."

Which is he? A man or a little boy. The sippy cups and high chairs aren't really fit for "a man."

LoveSpring said...

I really hate reading the comments cutting Kate up for leaving her kids to "work" (whatever this work may be - that's another debate). Can a woman not leave her kids for a couple of days? If Jon was going away would anyone say anything? I think not.

My single, mother worked 40 hours a week for $11 an hour - I'm sure some people would cut her up too. I turned out perfectly fine and very happy. Imagine. And my mother went away sometimes too. I think it is good for women (and men) to have a sense of themselves outside of just their family.

PamAKANinaB said...

I take a lot of the complaints with a grain of salt...if TLC wants to pay them enough to "work from home" that they buy a million dollar house then good on them

They do make money from the show - shouldn't they stop making it seem like they clip coupons to survive? Or still need college funds?

Sherp said...

I could be wrong but I though the house was for sale cause the Doctor died in an AA a few months before and the wife was older. I love the house and its right for the kids and family.

lotsoflove4more said...

I am getting so sick of this show. Unfortunately, this is the only show my two year old likes. She is always asking for "Kate" and hands me the remote. I am getting to the point I am going to no longer let her watch it. I am noticing her beginning to act like Mady. That scares me, Mady is turning into mini-Kate. I am hoping the show gets cancelled and these kids have a chance of normalcy. It just isn't normal to be living in a fish bowl. Even if that fish bowl is a 1.3 million dollar mansion.
These sponsor libs that Kon keeps doing is making me the sickest. I think I will purposely boycott any product they endorse.

Pam said...

Maybe Mady and Cara are off in no-man's-land with Beth and Jodi. Kate had a beef with them, so now they are gone, never to be spoken of again.

Skye Lee said...

To quote another commenter: "and what I want to know is why these children, with the exception of Cara, cry all the time? No matter where they go, no matter what activity they are participating in...the children cry. Furthermore, the crying doesn't seem to faze the parents one bit."

I think that a lot of this has to do with the age of the kids. My son is 4 1/2 yrs old and he pretty much cry's and whines about everything. They just have the crying and whining times 6 so it seems worse. I don't think that there is something wrong with the kids, I think it is strictly an age thing. Give them a year and it will pass.

Teaches pre-K said...

and what I want to know is why these children, with the exception of Cara, cry all the time? No matter where they go, no matter what activity they are participating in...the children cry. Furthermore, the crying doesn't seem to faze the parents one bit

Yes, they do cry and whine way more than is average for that age. It is probably due in part to parents ignoring them and not teaching them to not cry and whine and possibly due to the insecurities they have from shuffling through the fifteen or so nannies that Jon mentioned.

timetogokon said...

I really hate reading the comments cutting Kate up for leaving her kids to "work" (whatever this work may be - that's another debate). Can a woman not leave her kids for a couple of days? If Jon was going away would anyone say anything? I think not.

My single, mother worked 40 hours a week for $11 an hour - I'm sure some people would cut her up too. I turned out perfectly fine and very happy. Imagine. And my mother went away sometimes too. I think it is good for women (and men) to have a sense of themselves outside of just their family.

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I think most of the comments are not geared towards all working moms, it's geared towards Keight specifically.

1) TLC made a lame attempt at jusitfying why the show is still on the air by saying it was a way for Keight to be a SAHM . We all know she isn't home much and she certainly isn't a real mom in my eyes.

2) Keight's "work" takes her away from home so she can continue to spread lies, beg for $ and promote a book that she didn't write as her own, all at the expense of her children's privacy and right to a normal childhood.

My husband works a lot of hours a week, and as we speak he is on a 6 day business trip , he is not home as much as we all would like. BUT, he's working very hard at an honorable job without pimping out his children.

bertie22 said...

just a quick question- does anyone have a full list of their upcoming speaking engagements? I've heard of at least 3 speaking engagements now for the 22nd. even if they're doing the separate thing, what are they going to get the production crew to speak for them? can't let any of that money get away..

Joanna said...

I started watching the show from the beginning because I was interested to see how a "regular" family will cope with having another set of multiples with 6 being a large number. I was very intrigued to learn as to what it takes as a woman, who has 8 kids, to be a great multi-tasker, very organized, disciplined, yet loving and appreciative. But now the more I watch the show, the more I realized that the show is not so much about the kids but about Kate being a control freak and being rude to everyone around her not only her husband and kids, but anyone who crossed her path. Her tone is quite harsh and condescending. She always wants to be right and she treats her husband like he is one of the kids “saying things like stop interrupting me, we have done so many interviews you’d think you would learn.” Regardless of much money they are making and exposing the kids to so many interesting activities, I cannot fathom as to how these kids can grow up normal with having a mom be such a cold hearted witch. I do watch the show, hoping that something good will come out of all of this and every time I watch I just have to cringe and be embarrassed for John. I think the kids are great just like all children are at those ages. Kids should be given the opportunity to fail as well as succeed, get dirty, scream, run, play and just be kids instead of being reprimanded that everything they do needs to be corrected. In conclusion, this downward spiral has to end at some point.