Um... Happy Valentine's Day, Jon and Kate?

After reading this little tid bit I'm pretty sure it was a cold, cold weekend in Pennsylvania. Let's just say this attempted interview about romance in the Gosselin house didn't make it to print.

Sent via email by Tammy H.

193 comments:

Jen K said...

Finally, a journalist calls it like they've seen it.

Not one thing surprised me. That poor PR person who has to referee these two!

ConcernedMom said...

Yeah, I can't imagine being their publicist and always having to play referee.

Hum, you think the sheeple will chock up this interview to "a bad day"?

Whatever!

Maria said...

I love that the journalist didn't write a sappy piece about them anyway and instead told the truth about Kate's terrible behavior. She's yelling at Jon telling him how rude he is and then SHE is rude as hell to the journalist. Kate, you had better watch out, because Karma is a bitch, and she's coming to visit you really soon!

practicaleclecticism said...

Why can't they PUBLISH this?!
Ahhhhhhhhh!

sammylee said...

Ha, no surprise that they're not "that couple." It's so obvious they can't stand each other. They only stay together for the kids and so they don't have to work. Not to mention, Jon could never afford to pay child support. He's stuck and he knows it.

I'm just waiting for him to snap. It's gonna happen, you just know it is.

Maggie said...

To the person who alerted us with this article, I am so sorry that we lost the details to credit you with. If you read this please contact me at shatzie1980@yahoo.com so that we can acknowledge your contribution.

my9cats said...

Well sheeple?????
What is your response to this?

eli'smom said...

Kate sounds exactly like Mady. And I don't think it is a learned behavior, I think it is genetic. (People do pass their personalities on to their kids. Even when parents aren't with their children much, like divorce and adoption. So, it can't all be learned behavior.)

But, this is not an excuse for their actions. Unless Kate acknowledges their behavior, both will not change any time in the near future. I'm sure this is why Kate doesn't help Mady curb her attitude more. Kate doesn't see it for the huge problem that it is.

It is frustrating, as a parent myself, to watch Mady not get the guidance, help, and discipline she needs.

Another poster mentioned that Cara and Mady have not been in the last several episodes. I think this is because: A.) their behavior has gotten to bad to show (i.e., Mady on that recent interview with Kate saying, "Daddy's my favorite!" and imploring Kate to "spank Alexis!") B.) the twins want less attention now because of backlash at school, their age, etc.

I wonder if they still go to the same school after the move. Most kids wouldn't, but maybe Jon and Kate drive them.

I tell ya, Kate will suck the fun and happiness right out of any situation, even becoming TV stars, recent millionaires, bestselling author (ha!), etc... Can she ever actually be happy?

sammylee said...

Jen K, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.

Corinne said...

Wow, Kate's not romantic? Kelly should have put a 30-second clip of their "loveseat chat" up. A picture is worth a thousand words, so a video is worth at least 5,000!

Laurie said...

There is no love in that marriage. TLC and their own greed sucked it dry. The writer's claim is interesting, but I can't help questioning the journalistic integrity of anyone who would interview a couple like this for love and romance tips. It's all for show.

AnnieD said...

Uh-oh. If this is on tape it's gonna get a lot of mileage.

Anonymomma said...

In PA. there is no 50/50 custody. There has to be a custodial parent listed. They'll go as far as 65-45, but there has to be a legally appointed primary custodian (basically where the kids would live) for the sake of the paperwork. However the parents are encouraged to share as much time as possible anyway.


For as much as I hate to say this because I think when kids are in the middle of a marriage that's dead in the water it's bad for them, but in KON's case, I hope they don't divorce. I think Kate would go completely nuclear (worse than she is now). Can you imagine if they came back from a visit at Dad's skiing condo and told Mommy all about Dad's new girlfriend?

When my mom and stepdad split up, my brother (techically he'smy half brother but I never reffer to him like that) was 14. If his dad didn't come for him that weekend for whatever reason, my brother had to hear about it. If he did come for him and took him out somewhere like fishing or for pizza, my mother would freak out on him when he got home. My brother would be so angry and upset he'd be in tears and she and I would get it at over it all. I loved my mom to bits but I'll tell ya, I see that aspect in Kate.

I hpe they remain in tact at least until the kids leave for college. Interesting article though.

IMO said...

Doesn't surprise me one bit. Kate has an overbearing personality and if things don't go her way then its off w/ your head. Its pretty clear on the show that they don't love each other and are only putting up w/ each other for the sake of the show and the kids.

Clearly the vow renewal in Hawaii was for the sake of the show as well. That became painfully obvious when no one from Kate's side of the family showed, none of their friends ie. Bob & Beth Carson came and the only relatives from Jon's side were his distant family he hasn't seen in years.

There will come a time when the cameras are gone and its just the 2 of them alone in the house and Jon will realize that he has no reason to stick around anymore. I really do think that Jon is the innocent one in this. I think Kate is so controlling of Jon that Jon is forced to stay. I think she has 8 child support payments hanging over his head and thats what keeps him there for now.

C said...

No surprise after reading that. Just goes to show they're just keeping this marriage alive for the $$$ and to continue any personal financial gain they can accomplish while the show's still on the air.

Mikemom said...

Oh my gosh, after reading that I have to wonder, one of these days Jon is going to explode at Kate, and I hope the camera's are rolling when he does, after all arent they making memories?

Combine Two Shows said...

Here's a suggestion to the Producers for an episode that will draw countless viewers....

Kate should do a guest appearance on The Real Housewives of Orange County where the housewives re-visit the custom-made Perfume Store...you know, the place where it showed the Housewives viewing those beautiful custom=painted Vibrators in the display case?

Happy Valentine's Day, Kate ?

miss understood said...

How do we really know if this is a legit article? I mean why would J & K talk to this woman, who is only a freelance writer? I hardly think JK would do a phone interview for free, and a freelancer probably coulnd't pay for their fee?

I am skeptical, but I DO believe their marriage is so over!

Get Real Kate said...

"Anyone who says marriage isn't work is lying" ????

I beg to differ. I've been married 21 years and my last "tiff" with my husband was in January 2005 that lasted a whole 15minutes. My marriage is very easy and not work at all. I'm very blessed in that department. Kate, you can keep your material things. I'd rather have my easy marriage.

PhillyHockeyMom said...

A lot of us have noticed their body language on the interview couch this season. Jon does not have his arm around her anymore, she isn't somewhat snuggling closer to him, no more "love taps". He started last night with his arms crossed in front of him and turning his head to side and rolling his eyes. She's way on the other arm of the loveseat and correcting and belittling him. The end of the interview was the best!

I am sure Jon loves all his children deeply, but to be 27/28 with 8 kids is somewhat jarring. He has said quite a few times he was happy with Cara and Mady but Kate wanted one more. While I am sure she didn't expect six, she certainly went through treatments thinking she might get another pair of twins at the least.

I can't wait to see 5 to 6 years down the road when the show is off the air and Cara and Mady are teenage girls and the tups are 9/10 to see if J&K are still together. I have to say, I doubt it.

Its A Good Thing said...

Wow, I definitely think their marriage is headed for disaster.

thehazlettfamily said...

Anonymomma said...

In PA. there is no 50/50 custody. There has to be a custodial parent listed. They'll go as far as 65-45, but there has to be a legally appointed primary custodian (basically where the kids would live) for the sake of the paperwork. However the parents are encouraged to share as much time as possible anyway.

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Not to nitpick, but my accounting brain says 65-45 is 110% it would have to be 55/45 or 65/35 I guess.

Also, wasn't Hawaii her dream? Everytime she thought of her wedding she thought of how it should have been in Hawaii. You'd think a free vacation and wedding in Hawaii would prompt her to talk it up as much as she could. She finally got her way.

On another not, I'm watching a 2007 episode and despite her yelling at Jon during the show, she at least smiles at him and looks at him when he talks in the interview. What a contrast to her demeanor last night. Night & Day.

Heidi said...

"Marriage is alot of work and anyone who says it is not, is a liar...???"

I have been married to my husband for 23 years. We do not have to work on our marriage. It just is. We are each others best friends. We think of the other person in many ways. We give each other space. We do not nag, we do not belittle each other, we do not call each other names, and we do not say something hurtful that cannot be unsaid. I guess I am a big fat liar Keight!

Jen K said...

sammylee wrote:
Jen K, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.


I absolutely agree and my comment was just to add to the conversation. I wasn't saying anything other than that. He probably does feel stuck and doesn't realize that as time goes on he might have options that he didn't have at one point. No offense meant at all, just adding my point of view.

Casey and Smudge said...

Wow, don't we just love how real Jon and Kate's relationship is? They hold nothing back, what a fabulous couple! Of course, their marriage is guaranteed to fail, no? Simply having multiples increases the risk, according to Kate. Thus the need for expensive trips for two, dinner for two, bedroom suite exclusively for two. What a farce. Their behaviour will be explained away, or praised! No worries there. I cringe when I see young couples emulating these two - Christian Supermom and Helpful House Husband, not. Selfish, mean, rude to the hilt, ...need I go on?

tallblonde said...

A little blurb on RUMC (Roswell United Methodist Church) website:

Jon and Kate UPDATE!
Due to circumstances beyond our control, we have just been informed that Jon Gosselin will not be able to appear at Roswell UMC on Friday, March 20. Kate Gosselin will still be in attendance and will be available for a limited period of time to autograph books after the event. Both her new book, Eight Little Faces, and her current book, Multiple Blessings, will be available for purchase. If this changes your willingness to come to the event, please return your tickets via your point of purchase before March 2 for a full refund. Thank you. Questions/comments: Craig Yoshihara, cyoshihara@rumc.com


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Video cameras and flash photography
will NOT be allowed during the event


If you wish to submit possible questions for the Q&A portion
of Kate's visit, send them to Rev. Craig Yoshihara
cyoshihara@rumc.com

Gimleteye said...

I think that deep down she knows that she's created her own monster. Financially they are better off, but look at the emotional state they're all in. None of them seem very happy. It's very clear that their marriage is in trouble.You can blame a too small house, a long work commute, or your kids invading your privacy. However, having seemingly solved those problems they seem even worse off.It's very sad seeing this family fall apart before our eyes. Somewhere in that bible of hers there is the well known verse: What profit have you if you gain the world yet lose your soul?

Jen K said...

"Anyone who says marriage isn't work is lying" ????


I also find this sentence odd. I'm married and while my husband and I have an occasional spat it's usually over in about an hour (5 minutes of sniping and about 55 minutes of walking away and cooling off). We've been through a lot too, including cancer and I've gotta say if you are really matched right and in love and are each others' best friend as Jon and Kate say they were, it's really not that hard.

Sure there are hard parts, but I think these two are just incredibly immature and it shows on the show and in the way they talk to each other. I guess playing "adults" when you have the mentality of teenagers would be hard to do. They also make things harder than they have to be. I've seen so many examples of sitting there watching and thinking, "Life does not have to be that hard. Lighten up and life is a lot easier!"

They've invited stress upon stress into their lives and marriage. This article doesn't surprise me at all. As if life isn't hard enough at times, the ASKED for this. I have very little empathy for them considering 98% of what they are dealing with is a result of their own choices. It's too bad because you've gotta think that things are probably even worse when the cameras aren't there and that makes me very sad for the kiddos.

Its A Good Thing said...

If selling a photo album of your children to strangers isn't exploitation and just so wrong on so many levels....... How low is Kate willing to go?

organized said...

WOW, HOW'D YOU CATCH WITCH KATE AT HOME????

Must have been one of the days she films herself in her socks, pulling on her earring, like a 10 year old.

PhillyHockeyMom said...

Tallblonde posted that Jon isn't coming to that event. Kate was just in NYC alone and I believe Jon was at PSU alone. That may be saying something right there. Maybe they just don't want to be alone together while travelling and it also takes away Kate's ability to pick on Jon while on stage. Just a thought that something is rotten in Denmark!

tallblonde said...

I personally am very happy that Kate received 2 new sets of washer/dryers....because - as we all know - "the kids deserve them"..... ;)

Happy Laura said...

Here's the irony I see: On a one of their "how we got here" episodes, they played home movies of Jon & Kate before they were married and right after they got married. They were very, very lovey-dovey. They even said they used to make people sick they were so sweet. Maybe someone show replay that for them! Obviously, relationships change, especially with that many kids, but I feel it's ironic that they played up how much in love they were before and now it's blatantly obvious it's not there anymore.

tallblonde said...

PhillyHockeyMom - I also thought this was really interesting:
"If you wish to submit possible questions for the Q&A portion
of Kate's visit, send them to Rev. Craig Yoshihara
cyoshihara@rumc.com"
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So - questins for Kate will be pre-screened. I think we all have questions to submit to Rev Yoshihara..... ;-)

pippu said...

"We're not lovey or romantic. We're not that couple".

I think back to last year's Valentine episode when it seemed Jon and Kate went out of their way to show how much they loved each other. The T-shirts, the flowers Jon brought her, etc. I'm sure it was for the show, but it seemed as if there WAS love there. Remember their home videos from their dating days and honeymoon? They didn't go a minute without saying "I love you, honey" over and over.

They WERE "that couple". They were even lovey when the twins and tups were born, from what we've seen on home video. Then what happened? THIS SHOW happened, and just look how much "happier" their family is with the big house and all the other freebies. They sit on that interview couch not touching, not even looking at each other, nothing but arguing. The twins seem miserable and the tups have no privacy at all.

Maybe J & K should go back and watch those home movies, and then ask themselves if the exploitation and money are worth it.

Vdayfun said...

My question isn't so much why Kate was so angry on the phone, but why would a journalist want to do an article on Jon and Kate's relationship for Valentine's Day? They clearly are not a lovey-dovey couple. Sorry, I don't hate her. I don't like her, but I don't hate her. There are two sides to every story.

Harriet said...

That's sad, very sad. Although I can hear those words coming out of Kate very easily. The love of money does some very ugly things to people.

Dunwoody Mom said...

The sheeple cannot discredit the writer of this article - Kelly DiNardo. Just by doing a quick "google", she is a very respected free-lance writer.

Jacsamic said...

Dear Kate,

I am not naive enough to believe you do not read the blogs regarding your behaviors and life choices. I just read the article regarding your 'interview and behavior' regarding Valentine's Day. So sad, Kate, so sad.

As most of us go thru life we do not have opportunity to have our personality/life choice issues presented as vividly as you do.

You are so fortunate in so many, many ways, Kate. You were blessed with 8 beautiful children, a husband who stays with you no matter what, financial reward brought to you by your children, good health, extended family and friends likely waiting for you to come back to them....and so much more.

This is where you are even more blessed. You see, Kate, a very large majority of these observances are true. Hard to accept? Of course.

But, dear Kate, if not for your own sake, how about your childrens' sake? Quietly, seek professional help - today. You see you can learn to understand why your inner turmoil is on such a devasting path for you, your children and your marriage. You can do this Kate.

All of us who write about our reactions to you, your show, your appearances, your interviews are giving you the most valuable gift concievable- a fair and clear view of personality issues that so immediately need to be addressed.

Somehow I want to believe you have the courage to step up do what is right- for yourself, your husband and your children. It is not too late, but, getting closer every day.

JenM10 said...

You would think Kate would at least put on an act for the journalist, knowing that her behaving so poorly would probably make print. I guess she just chalks it up to everyone being "haters" and misunderstanding her again.

Anonymomma said...

thehazlettfamily said...
Anonymomma said...

In PA. there is no 50/50 custody. There has to be a custodial parent listed. They'll go as far as 65-45, but there has to be a legally appointed primary custodian (basically where the kids would live) for the sake of the paperwork. However the parents are encouraged to share as much time as possible anyway.

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Not to nitpick, but my accounting brain says 65-45 is 110% it would have to be 55/45 or 65/35 I guess.

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ROFLMAO! TY hun, haha, I can't believe my math gene is that defective :P

Sherp said...

It may well be that Jon and Kate realized that it is better for the kids to have one parent stay home while the other travels.
In the real grown up world, alliances, taking care of the children and avoiding a divorice is more important than the "love" thing. Kate's rudness will destroy the show and I am surprised that TLC is not controlling that aspect of her behavior.
Whats the fixation with the "Sheeple"? Do they need to agree for the majority viewpoint of Jon and Kate be valided?

LisaH said...

Heidi said...
"Marriage is alot of work and anyone who says it is not, is a liar...???"

I have been married to my husband for 23 years. We do not have to work on our marriage. It just is. We are each others best friends. We think of the other person in many ways. We give each other space. We do not nag, we do not belittle each other, we do not call each other names, and we do not say something hurtful that cannot be unsaid. I guess I am a big fat liar Keight!
________________________________

Kudos to you and your husband.

My husband and I have a similar relationship. We are each other's best friend, we respect each other and would never, ever, ever speak to one another with disrespect. We have never had a fight. Disagreements? Yes, maybe a few but we always managed to discuss issues we don't agree on rationaly.

J&K are just a pathetic example of a marriage. Kate is controlling and gets more pleasure out of humiliating Jon and berating him than she does out of the fact they have a great life, 8 healthy children, a big house, no more money problems. She is a miserable human being who really does not deserve any of the good fotune she has had in life because she doesn't appreciate one moment of it.

Lonnyswife said...

Regardless of this interview having actually taken place or not the truth is out there every week for the world to see.

Some people sheeple have chosen to overlook it.

J&K are so focused on their business that their marriage and children have taken a back seat to everything else. They assume, because of how hard they 'work' at it, that they are doing the best thing for the family. Which, IMO, couldn't be further from the truth.

Children learn by example. They learn by what they see going on in their lives on a daily basis. Those children are not learning about work ethic. They aren't learning about healthy relationships.

It seems to me they are learning how to manipulate and work the system. They have already learned it is okay to hit. They have learned that yelling is okay. Once they reach an age where they are able to see or hear mom and dad say one thing, but they themselves know it isn't true, they will have learned that lying is okay.

How effed up is this? I figure it doesn't much matter if the interview referenced took place or not. Those of us who are not involved in any type of group think can see for ourselves how this family interacts. We are pretty confident that what we see each week isn't played out just for the cameras, and that when the cameras are gone (are they ever GONE?) the house becomes this lovey-dovey idyllic warm functioning place.

There isn't any justification for any of it IMO.

"Kate was just having a bad day"
EVERY DAY?

"The kids were just tired"
All THE TIME?

"The families don't know how to help"
REALLY? BECAUSE THEY SEEMED TO BE ABLE TO HELP EARLY ON. WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE A FAMILY MEMBER SAYING SOMETHING THAT PISSED J&K OFF IN REGARDS TO RAISING THEIR BROOD? J&K THEMSELVES SAY THINGS TO EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME THAT PISSES THE OTHER ONE OFF.

Everyone in the world is effed up EXCEPT for J&K. J&K can do no wrong. J&K get a free pass.

I shudder to think how the world would be if the Blinder Brigade was in charge. Blinders issued at birth-----Rose Colored Glasses optional but recommended!

JoAnne said...

When Kate says they have to work at marriage, what she means is, she has to work at turning Jon into what she thinks he should be, and that Jon has to work at making himself into what she thinks he should be.

Kate seems like someone who is permanently angry and unhappy. She thought marriage would make her happy, but it didn't. She thought babies would make her happy, but they don't. She thought being a celebrity and getting rich would make her happy, but clearly they don't.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I know I shouldn't be surprised by anything Kate says, but this woman has NO FILTER whatsoever. Has she not tried what most of us workingmoms/wives have done: FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT. So what are you trying to tell us Kate, the entire Hawaii thing was a sham? We already know the answer.

Sarah Jane said...

Kate seems like someone who is permanently angry and unhappy. She thought marriage would make her happy, but it didn't. She thought babies would make her happy, but they don't. She thought being a celebrity and getting rich would make her happy, but clearly they don't.



Unfortunately Kate will never be happy. It is her personality.

Tami said...

Oh but I love how sheeple always say they DO love each other, it's just so haaaaard being the parents of 8 kids. What a joke. They are starting to show their true colors to everyone and anyone who can't see them is color blind! They make me sick.

ROFL said...

After reading the article I can say from my perspective that-

Kate Gosselin has become:

a full-fledged D I V A!

OMG She needs to get over herself. I didn't watch last nights show! TLC lost another viewer yesterday.

ROFL said...

sammylee said: I'm just waiting for him to snap. It's gonna happen, you just know it is.

I could not agree with you more. I just hope when he blows that the production crew gets it on film! lol

phylly3 said...

The picture of Jon that accompanies the article is kind of weird looking. He looks more feminine than Kate does. I think he really needs to get a real job and get out of the house more, oh, and change stylists.

sorry Kate said...

How do we really know if this is a legit article? I mean why would J & K talk to this woman, who is only a freelance writer? I hardly think JK would do a phone interview for free, and a freelancer probably coulnd't pay for their fee?

I am skeptical, but I DO believe their marriage is so over!"

Why wouldn't they? She is a publicity whore these days and is everywhere! You can't escape her? Who is Kate to say no to an interview? My take on this is that Hate is getting fed up with all her bad press and people talking about her and can't even conceal her disdain of the public any longer. She knows whatever she says will be ripped to shreds anyway : )

Chris said...

Vdayfun said...
My question isn't so much why Kate was so angry on the phone, but why would a journalist want to do an article on Jon and Kate's relationship for Valentine's Day? They clearly are not a lovey-dovey couple. Sorry, I don't hate her. I don't like her, but I don't hate her. There are two sides to every story.

2/17/2009 8:11 AM

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Sheeple.

Because of the image they "potray" on television maybe? Because of their (fake) wedding vows they televised for the world to see just a few months ago? How they proclaim "to be in this together and are determined to be together forever?" Because of the VDay episode of last year showing us all what a (scam) of a marriage they have?

Obviously their publicist set this up. Obviously, because she was on the phone, she wanted this to turn into a nice PR piece for the happy couple. Didn't work out that way. It just showed us all once again what a farce and scam this couple is.

Reality TV doesn't have a good track record for married couples. In fact I think they all have ended in divorce. Just sayin...

Tyler Smith said...

it's just so haaaaard being the parents of 8 kids.



I think it is equally (if not more so) as hard being the children to these two idiots.

ConcernedMom said...

"Clearly the vow renewal in Hawaii was for the sake of the show as well. That became painfully obvious when no one from Kate's side of the family showed, none of their friends ie. Bob & Beth Carson came and the only relatives from Jon's side were his distant family he hasn't seen in years."

Bob and Beth went to the Hawaii vow renewal? Really? How did I miss that?

Arieslikekate said...

har har har har. I feel sorry for those children, I truly do.

But someone finally sees the real Kate and Jon and is not afraid of TLC to print/expose the truth.

Perhaps Kate will now give us tips on how to keep a marriage alive! !

abc said...

I believe that although they have reached some level of monetary success and in Kate's mind she is defelecting the exploitation issue by her book signings and product endorsments. She is very resentful that it really all lies on her shoulders. Even though she controls everything, deep down inside she probably wishes that Jon would do it all and she could stay home and bask in their good fortune.

I think it is harder and harder for these grifters to come up with ways for the gravey train to keep going. And Kate is the most afraid because she knows Jon is worthless when it comes to providing for his family.

AnnieD said...

All I can say is thank God the dogs were removed. Lucky them.

MomOfFour said...

#1 Giving the girls their birthday cupcakes and not the boys (and letting the girls eat them in front of the boys)

#2 Telling the kids they will suffer 'severe punishment' if they dare to enter mommy & daddy's room.

#3 Giving the kids some puppies, then taking them away.

Just a few examples of the way these poor kids are being treated. Me thinks Mady will have a major meltdown if they take those puppies away.

AnnieD said...

Lucky dogs to be removed, but once again, yank away anything the kids become attached to. Relationships at every possible level are disposable.

sammylee said...

sammylee wrote:
Jen K, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.


I absolutely agree and my comment was just to add to the conversation. I wasn't saying anything other than that. He probably does feel stuck and doesn't realize that as time goes on he might have options that he didn't have at one point. No offense meant at all, just adding my point of view.

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I apologize then. I almost felt you were saying that I was encouraging a divorce or something. I might be thinking that, but I didn't say it ;-)

Its A Good Thing said...

Where did the information about the dogs being removed come from? I don't doubt that they were and I really hope they were because I don't see Jon and Kate being good pet owners but is there a legit. source for this information?

Jen K said...

sammylee wrote:
I apologize then. I almost felt you were saying that I was encouraging a divorce or something. I might be thinking that, but I didn't say it ;-)


Oh, not at all! No worries! In fact, my comment sounded much more like that! :) If anyone would have sounded like that it was me. ;)

I actually wouldn't want them to divorce, because of the kids. But in my family my parents' divorce was actually a very positive thing in the long run. Every marriage/family is different though. They sure don't seem happy. Too bad, but also totally avoidable and based solely on their choices.

ThreeFarmers said...

I gotta say that I think that interview took place just as the writer said it did. That is exactly the way Kate behaves on camera and it is exactly the way she talks to her husband.

That interview was merely justification of what we already know.

aimee said...

Sigh, I read this article, copied and pasted it into tinyurl.com and came over here to spread the love...

But GWOP was way ahead of me.

GWOP, you make me proud to be a poster to this blog :)

keight said...

"OMG being a celebrity is such hard work. I actually have to talk to people!"

wramblinwreck said...

"In the real grown up world, alliances, taking care of the children and avoiding a divorice is more important than the "love" thing."

ITA, I believe at this point Kon's relationship is about an economic alliance and whatever love may exist is for the kids. The trouble with this type of alliance is it's tough to hide the lack of affection for each other from the kids. They'll know something isn't right and feel the tension.


"Kate's rudness will destroy the show and I am surprised that TLC is not controlling that aspect of her behavior."

Her behavior almost seems so over the top that you wonder if she's doing it on purpose, to create more buzz for the show. IOW she and Jon are complicit in acting out these scenes because they know people will talk about it, and they want to differentiate themselves from their competiiton, The Duggars, who are the "nice" couple.

yeaisaidthat said...

FYI - OK quick story about the dogs. They were brought on to make the show more family friendly. After 3-4 weeks they were shipped of to "training" camp. They were home for about 1 week and then shipped off to another home. The story is they were sent to a family who lived on a farm? [i know, i know] In coming episode or maybe next season there will be a tie in with one of the kids being allergic to the dogs and the family goes to visit the dogs at the new home. The dogs are truly in a better place than the Gosselin household.

I absolutely believe this. J & K appear to be the type of people that 'love the idea of having a puppy' (or they used getting a puppy a bribe of some sort) but have absolutely ZERO idea the responsible and disciplines that it takes to be the owner of not one dog, but two large dogs!! From puppy hood to adulthood dogs require lots of attention, maintainence and the ability to ALLOW the dog to 'perform' naturally as dictated by the BREED!! Remember when the movie 101 dalmations came out, and every family wanted a dalmation puppy! Many of those dalmation puppies ended up chained in the yard, left in a kennel, or 'put' down per the request of the owner.
J & K Gosselin didnt even know if the family could tolerate/manage the responsibilities of caring for ONE dog and they got TWO!
IMO , J & K approach to being a dog owner is equal to that of their approach to parenting....non committed and lazy!

JJ said...

How do we really know if this is a legit article? I mean why would J & K talk to this woman, who is only a freelance writer? I hardly think JK would do a phone interview for free, and a freelancer probably coulnd't pay for their fee?

I am skeptical, but I DO believe their marriage is so over!


I don't know much/anything about media, but I don't think it costs to get an interview with someone. Just takes connections and proof that the interview will been read, I think. Interviews are part of promotion, which is necessary for the "star."

...but why would a journalist want to do an article on Jon and Kate's relationship for Valentine's Day? They clearly are not a lovey-dovey couple. Sorry, I don't hate her. I don't like her, but I don't hate her. There are two sides to every story.

Why not? Who better to interview about a relationship than a couple "struggling" with 8 young kids? If it weren't J+K, I'd love to know how people keep their marriage and romance strong.

They used to be lovey so maybe this person hasn't been watching or paying close attention to the newer episodes.

jillian said...

They should have asked Aunt Jodi and Kevin OR Beth and Bob what makes a great marriage!

I can't even call them KON anymore...Jon and Kate are so over!

nosheeple said...

After reading the article I can say from my perspective that-

Kate Gosselin has become:

a full-fledged D I V A!

OMG She needs to get over herself. I didn't watch last nights show! TLC lost another viewer yesterday.

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She sure is a diva. We saw a commercial today about the dogs and I commented. My dh said he's never seen a former nurse so full of ego. It's as if she thinks she's royalty rather than just living off her kids.

Mrs. H said...

Jessica Simpson and NIck Lachey's marriage were over mainly because of their reality show. Jessica became more popular than her husband, traveling and making records etc. The same is happening here.

It doesn't matter how hard your marriage is, it doesn't mean that you need to let people in on it. If you are a public figure (and I use that term loosely with KG) why would you speak like that with a reporter and then cry when the press and writes bad things about you? Yea, the show is supposed to be reality but that doesn't mean that you should speak like that to any reporter. That was beyond rude and Kate should write a letter apologizing for her behavior.

And why can't they be romatic or lovey? If they aren't like that it means that a marriage can lead to doom. It doesn't mean it has to be 5 star hotels or anything. My husband cooking for me makes me look at him as the sexiest man alive!

Travis Noodle said...

The article is authentic and I commend the writer for bearing the wrath of Keight.

Oh the drama this is producing and the result will be that more people tune in to the TLC Trainwreck better known as J&K+8.

If Kate were as sweet as a kitten there wouldn't be any reason to watch the show.

redrivergrl said...

Can someone please tell me where I can find the article everyone is talking about??? THANKS

Anonymomma said...

phylly3 said...
The picture of Jon that accompanies the article is kind of weird looking. He looks more feminine than Kate does. I think he really needs to get a real job and get out of the house more, oh, and change stylists.


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Am I the only one who sees the resemblence between Jane and The Pregnant Man? If Jane grows a she-beard, well, there ya go.




Also, I do believe that the article is truth. Why would they mention a publicist being on the other line/background? That's be an awfully big stretch wouldn't it? It also makes sense that they would have that publicist present considering the interview they gave the one local PA paper during nursegate, when they called back and asked for the story to be retracted. The PR (that's public relations) person would have surely been screening to try and avoid Kate's inevitably bad interview.

IrishNYC said...

What a peach she is.

Starjazmyn said...

That is too funny! Thanks for sharing! :)

Sarah in CA said...

Does anyone remember Star Jones from the "View"?

When Star started to act like a superstar and started getting freebies from everyone her career was over. I wonder if that will happen to Jon and Kate. Even the sheeple have got to be mad about all the freebies this to KON's are getting?

Ravello said...

This has been a sham marriage for quite a while. Anything to make a buck. I have no doubt they will go their separate ways once the show is cancelled.
I have been critical of Jon but he has shown tremendous restraint toward Kate. I would want to slap her silly if she talked to me that way.
Glad to hear the dogs are gone, that was another sham storyline. Soap operas have more believable stories than what the Gosselins roll out for the sheeple.

Dr. H said...

I think that marriage is work. I have to remember that sometimes, because I can be selfish, and rude, and annoying and any number of things without thinking about it. And if I'm off my meds, it's so bad.

Sometimes people, even your beloved spouse, can be annoying. Sometimes the little things pile up and you lose perspective. Life happens. Life is work. Why shouldn't marriage be given all the effort it can be? If people say it's not all Leave it to Beaver, then they have a bad marriage or aren't doing it right? How...judgy.

konspiracytheory said...

Anonymomma said:

Am I the only one who sees the resemblence between Jane and The Pregnant Man? If Jane grows a she-beard, well, there ya go.

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Serves me right for drinking hot tea in front of my computer - thanks for the laugh!!

beachluvin said...

Dr. H said...
I think that marriage is work. I have to remember that sometimes, because I can be selfish, and rude, and annoying and any number of things without thinking about it. And if I'm off my meds, it's so bad.

Sometimes people, even your beloved spouse, can be annoying. Sometimes the little things pile up and you lose perspective. Life happens. Life is work. Why shouldn't marriage be given all the effort it can be? If people say it's not all Leave it to Beaver, then they have a bad marriage or aren't doing it right? How...judgy.

2/17/2009 2:38 PM
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Excuse me....how judgy???
They were conducting an interview! Who pays for the phone that Kate and Jon were talking on? Who pays the phone bills? Who bought that house for them? The fans! The same folks that would be reading the interview that this woman was trying to conduct. Kate was unprofessional and rude at the very least! This author is well respected and should have been shown the respect she and her readers deserve.

uneasy said...

"This is stupid. I don't know why you're doing this story. We're not romantic or lovey. We're not that couple."

It's not often I agree with Kate, but in this case, I do. Just because she's a wife, and is portrayed on a reality show where she did a Valentine's Day episode and a renewal of vows episode does not make her an authority on marriage or love or romance. And by extension, just because she has eight kids does not make her an authority on parenting. Just because she goes to church does not make her an authority on Christian living. Just because she is featured on a reality show does not make her an authority on anything!

Philly said...

They should not even be alowed to get a dog, let alone 2.
Dogs need love and she is not even given that to her children.

I hate her

FXfanatic said...

Why does everybody assume that Kate would get primary custody? How about SHE getting a job and paying Jon child support? He's more of a hands-on parent and she's the one with a "skill" to fall back on (nursing).

momof2inPA said...

I would send her a copy of the book "The Love Dare" from the movie Fireproof but she wouldn't get past Day ONE-Say nothing negative to your spouse.

FXfanatic said...

To Get Real Kate:
I admire you and your marriage. You are a lucky woman and people like you (and my own parents) show me that there is true love and happiness within marriage.
Thank you for sharing and your kids are very lucky!
Good Job.

LucyD said...

J&K will be at Gateway Church Community Center located in Parksburg Pa, near me, on 2/22 for 9 and 10:30 mass. I sent an email to info@gcwired.com expressing my distaste of their guests, and I encourage everyone to do the same. Thanks

tallblonde said...

A great marriage DOES take work/attention from both partners - the difference is that for Jon & Kate - it doesn't just take work....it's their JOB.

Single Mother of Two said...

Miss Understood you really need to do a bit of research. Not only is this freelancer a legit reporter (try using the Googles, you'll find a lot) but she's also a published author: http://www.amazon.com/Gilded-Lili-St-Striptease-Mystique/dp/0823088898/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234915170&sr=8-1

Either way, I really feel sorry for the kids. They are the real victims in the situation.

boyscoutmomx5 said...

"Anyone who says marriage isn't work is lying" ????

My very wise grandfather who adored his wife(my grandmother) told me once; "If you have to work so hard in your marriage, then you married the wrong guy." This coming from a man for 60 years of marriage called my grandmother his blushing bride.

I married the wrong guy myself Kate and when we divorced, I felt like joy was back in my life. I've been happily married for 17 pluss years to a man that I have never fought or had to make our marriage work. Wanna call me a liar, I will show you the proof of what a happy marriage looks like. 5 sons who have told us that they want a marriage that is half as happy as ours.... what do your kids wish for? I wish my kids health and happiness, do you wish yours wealth and fame?

2badsosad said...

"I helped the Gosselin's obtain the dogs. For security purposes at the new home. I also helped in finding a new home. So if that bitch is reading this YES ITS ME - JON YOUR A WUSS-YOU BOTH SUCK"

So not only do J & K exploit their own children and discard family and friends when they are no longer of use to them, they equally stoop to the level of using animals (puppies) as a 'family friendly' prop on their reality show to appear more viewer relatable. Say good bye to the puppies kids, they were only here to boost our ratings!!

Molly said...

FXfanatic said...
What cracks me is is BM going all over defending Kate and saying this story isn't true.
What is in it for her and does she ever actually take care of her own child??

2/17/2009 3:40 PM
Niki said...
Who is BM?



I'm thinking it's Baby Mama? She's a real nutjob who's in love with Kate Gosselin and knows no bounds in regards to defending Kon and their child exploitative ways.

Jane in California said...

Kate no longer seems to put a speck of effort into her marriage -- and although Jon has his faults, as we all do, honestly I think the guy deserves an award for simply hanging in there with this woman. For those who don't have to work at keeping their marriage happy -- I salute you! I am currently in a long distance relationship, and what really makes it tick along best is open communication, and lots of TLC. I think that's true of any happy marriage.

The real problem is that Kate doesn't respect anyone. I don't know where she got this sense of entitlement, but she really does think she's special and doesn't need to follow the rules of the rest of society, such as being polite, or thoughtful, or considerate.

Again - it's the children who suffer. On the one hand, I wouldn't blame Jon for leaving, but on the other, I really hope he doesn't -- because he's the kinder, gentler parent that they really need. I won't pick on him anymore for not working - the more he's around, the better!

TV Mom said...

I work in TV as an anchor. I interviewed Kate via Satellite as she was pushing her book and VTech toys for Christmas.
I believe this artilcle is valid because she probably did a similar media tour with the writer.

If you are trying to sell something, like a book, your PR people set up hours worth of interviews. Each reporter gets a 5 minute window to asks questions.

AnnieD said...

TV Mom, can you tell us about your interview with Kate?

the good ol days said...

If they still acted like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDaw2Q3yZY4") I would actually enjoy the show. What a big change though, look at how loving they are. How affectionate she is toward him. Things sure do change.

timetogokon said...

Even the sheeple have got to be mad about all the freebies this to KON's are getting?

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Nope, the sheeple think that Jane and Keight deserve everything coming to them because they work soooo hard.

Shirley G said...

When some posters write in some type of code and initials instead of words, it can be very confusing. It hard to understand what is intended sometimes. I don't know how to break these codes. Am I so dense? Anyone else as dense as me? Heh!

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Maybe they do not travel together but take sepoarate trips as they can make twice as muich money. If they both have their own teaching or speaking engagment they will make more momey than they would do if they both spoke to the same audience.

4thekids said...

Can we have a contest to see which kid will be the 'we had to get rid of the puppy' scapegoat!

LMAO! My gut instinct was Aaden or Cara. Although I wouldn't put it past the Go$$elins to say that the dogs caused little Hannie's migraines to be even more severe.

Merilee said...

Sarah in CA said...
Does anyone remember Star Jones from the "View"?

When Star started to act like a superstar and started getting freebies from everyone her career was over. I wonder if that will happen to Jon and Kate. Even the sheeple have got to be mad about all the freebies this to KON's are getting?
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Eww, and Star looked 100% better before she lost all that weight! Yikes!

Get a clue said...

Beth and Bob did NOT go to the vow renewal.

machinegunsmom said...

Whooo...things have changed. They re-ran the Valentine's Day episode from last year when Kate was begging Jon for "romantic and lovey" and squealed like a schoolgirl when he admitted to liking the "Hallmark holiday." I agree that it's a "greeting card holiday" and my husband isn't super "romantic and lovey," but we can still be nice to each other, we could still nicely answer questions without yelling and being bitchy if someone were to ask us about this subject, we wouldn't crap on a VOW RENEWAL IN HAWAII, I would think finally getting her "dream wedding" would be something she'd talk about for years to come...

They used to at least try to be "that couple."

laura linger said...

Last night, there was a wonderful movie on one of the movie channels. It is called The Queen Of Mean, and it stars Suzanne Pleshette as Leona Helmsley.

The movie is awesome, but as I was watching, I was struck by how much Leona's tactics and Katie Irene's antics are exactly alike. An obsession with wealth, for one. Total reliance on appearances and how things look to "others," for another. Verbal abuse of those deemed inferior/weak/lesser. A cold relationship with her birth family. An obsession with beauty treatments, clothes, spa treatments, and plastic surgery. A meek husband who she railroads repeatedly into doing whatever she wants.

Fantastic movie, by the way, if you can catch it.

MayDay said...

About Jon and Kate speaking separately.. I do not know if this is old news but google Ordinary Gal, Extraordinary God and scroll down to the fifth picture of Kate speaking. Click on that videos and hear Kate say that they traveled so much precisely two weekends a month, that it almost killed their kids. So now they travel separate and since she has been given the gift of gab, she does most of the speaking engagements.

Jen K said...

I've been so busy today but somewhere in my internet travels I had read a comment that one fan site is actually debating whether or not Jon and Kate were ever "sickeningly sweet" as was claimed by some commenters.

Apparently there is debate about this because if they were, in fact, that way and now aren't it shows a degradation in the relationship.

This double-edged sword would mean that in order to deny that there is trouble now, one would have to admit that they were never that way. At least, that seems to be the logic being thrown about as I read it.

But what is funny is that some of the fans who supposedly know everything about J & K are denying the existence of the video where Kate actually says how lovey dovey they were.

So for everyone's sickeningly sweet enjoyment, TLC has it up on YouTube. If you can't stomach it all, fast forward to about 2:55 and that's when they start to get ooey gooey about each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-R0R9PZR8

So to satisfy the question: yes, Jon and Kate used to be all googely eyed at each other and now barely look at one another. It's a really sad thing to see how they were and how they are now, but video doesn't lie.

ThreeFarmers said...

To me, the video that shows just how gooey sweet -- almost immaturely so -- is the shot of Kate getting her engagement ring. They look and act like a couple of kids playing house.
It's quite sickening.

Professional Mom said...

"I PROMISE TO WALK BY YOUR SIDE,
TO SUPPORT YOU, LOVE YOU, HELP YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU. I WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU, TO COMFORT YOU, LOVE YOU, HONOR YOU, CHERISH YOU, NOW AND FOREVER MORE." Kate's marriage vows, that she wrote herself.

Kate, you have broken each and every one.

Jen K said...

To me, the video that shows just how gooey sweet -- almost immaturely so -- is the shot of Kate getting her engagement ring. They look and act like a couple of kids playing house.
It's quite sickening.



And just think...these two geniuses would become parents a year and half later. Oy.

Wynema said...

Professionl Mom,
Thanks for the sad reminder.

Tangerine Tanys said...

Professional Mom said:

( Kate's vows to Jon)
(in Hawaii)
"I PROMISE TO WALK BY YOUR SIDE, TO SUPPORT YOU, LOVE YOU, HELP YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU. I WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU, TO COMFORT YOU, LOVE YOU, HONOR YOU, CHERISH YOU, NOW AND FOREVER MORE.

It would be more fitting if Kate said :

"I PROMISE TO WALK ALL OVER YOU, HAVE OUR KIDS SUPPORT US, TREAT YOU LIKE CRAP,NEVER BE THERE FOR YOU(KIDS INCLUDED) DISCOURAGE YOU,
LOVE ALL THINGS THAT MONEY CAN BUY NOW AND FOREVER MORE.

growapair said...

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at the KONpound!

Sammylee is correct, Jon (if he hasn't already) is going to snap soon. He sold his kid's childhoods and his own dignity to fulfill he and Kate's greed and desire not to work. The result? He is now infamous to America for being Kate's bitch and having no balls. No amount of money and perks can make up for being known as a wimpy loser. He appears to have just figured this out (it takes him awhile) and is now big-time resentful.

Auntie Anne said...

Well, their "original" wedding was surely more genuine and emotional. Jon said a few family and friends were there. They DID have family and friends -- with video proof to show it.

MsPeabody said...

ConcernedMom said...
Yeah, I can't imagine being their publicist and always having to play referee.

Hum, you think the sheeple will chock up this interview to "a bad day"?

Whatever!
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From what I've read, those who like J&K are saying they don't believe this interview really happened. They believe it is made up. And some are claiming that Kate was just being honest about her marriage, that they are not that "lovey romantic couple".
And that's what they say they love about her, her honesty.

Art said...

So, I got this idea from Tom and Trix Plus Six, but when I read this blog about the latest news involving J&K, I start to think about them being on Wife Swap and who would be best paired up with them. It's very funny to imagine some of the ideas.

I think it'd do them a world of good if we could unplug them, especially Kate. Take her away from the speech engagements, Jon, and the children, and put her in a totally different environment, having to live by their rules. My hope is that if it's done, she'll be one of those wives that learn a great deal about themselves and comes out of it a better person. Most likely, though, she'll be in that minority group who learn nothing...

And someone asked for a little help in understanding the lingo on this site. I’m not sure this is what you meant, but I hope it helps:

Keight = Kate + Eight

Jane = Jon

KON = Kate + Jon, also playing on the word "con"

KONpound = their new house, playing on the word "compound"

Sheeple = Sheep + people, someone who is a fan of any show or person or idea. These people will defend to their dying breaths the thing they have fallen in "love" with. In regards towards J&K+8, the sheeples are those who defend Kate, Jon, and the show. Most of the sheeples are Kate fans, though. I don't think Jon has any sheeples for himself alone.

Manda said...

I went to watch the video and it froze so I refreshed the browser and when I did it said "this video is no longer available". Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Ihaveapopcornbutton said...

I think she's gonna snap. It's really mean the way she spoke to her publicist. I haven't watched the show since JULY 08. I even turn the commercials. I love LPBW but hate that I have to go thru JK to get to it.

And.... LPBW go back to Iraq, The Duggars head to ElSalvador and J&K spend time trying to figure out how to get their free Lane furniture into their house.. HMMM which family are givers??

Heidi said...

Dr. H,
I think it is more *judgy* to say that people in marriages like mine are lying. We do have disagreements but nothing harsh and mean. We do not try to hurt the other person with our words. If we do, we apologize.
Loving your spouse just like loving your kids should not have to be hard work. You get up to get a drink, you offer one to your spouse. You say please and thank you every time. I admit he gets on my ever loving nerves, just like I probably do to him. We let that show but it is not in a way that would make us think the other person does not still love us.
I agree with boyscoutmomx5 grandfather. If you have to put so much conscious effort and time into making your marriage work, then something might be wrong.
They can piss you off but if you truly love them way down deep, you would never give them to looks and cold shoulders that Kate and Jon give to each other. I do not care how stressed you are. In times of stress, you cling to your love. And we have had hardship, so this has been tested with us.
*jumping of the matrimonial soapbox now*

Happy Laura said...

Okay, one more comment about the dogs. Didn't the kids spend days at Beth & Bob's house where there was a 'gasp' dog? Shouldn't they already know if any child was allergic. I wonder what the sheeples will say about that? Maybe next season they'll get to do a Brady Bunch type thing where it turns out it was only the flea powder! LOL

agoodmarriageisalaboroflove said...

I do think marriage is work. But, I think all happy relationships are work. Kate just puts everything in a mean, nasty way. I put a lot of effort into relationships that are important to me. They require attention and work. To me, this is not a bad thing.

For instance, it takes work to plan a romantic weekend away, make sure the kids are taken care of and happy (I plan something special for them when we are gone), get the dog to the kennel, pack for both of us without him knowing, etc.. but I'm happy to do the work.

Kate misses the kindness and softness that comes when you love your spouse. She has been given (yes given - they might work, but this show was a fluke) so much and doesn't even seem to appreciate it.

I truly think she resents the show and the fans. Anyone agree?

atzdl said...

Phillyhockeymom said......Tallblonde posted that Jon isn't coming to that event. Kate was just in NYC alone and I believe Jon was at PSU alone. That may be saying something right there. Maybe they just don't want to be alone together while travelling and it also takes away Kate's ability to pick on Jon while on stage. Just a thought that something is rotten in Denmark!

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My guess is that they're not traveling together because they are booking events/meetings/press interviews etc. that coincide. Think about it, they could make even more money being in two places at once.

NoNewWordsPlease said...

What does "Judgy" mean? Another gross bastardization of the "English" language that is now popular?? Yuck! The only other time I have heard this "WORD" used was once when I was having to have Grey's Anatomy on b/c my son had to watch it. The bigger gal (who then married George who is really gay, apparently)--said "Judgy Friends" and at That time I was wondering where on EARTH did that new annoying word come from???!!
Or , is it a KATE "word?"

nc resident said...

Jen K said:

But what is funny is that some of the fans who supposedly know everything about J & K are denying the existence of the video where Kate actually says how lovey dovey they were.

Thanks for posting this Jen K this was what I was eluding too.

Heidi said...

The way she has been acting lately, I think she is sick of the whole thing. Being recognized on the street, performing her dog and pony show for the book signings, the couch interviews, etc. She is not in control anymore and she does not like it. She cannot just go to Kmart to pick up something if she wants to. She has no more anonymity and it is probably driving her battier then she already was.

Damage Control said...

atzdl said...
Phillyhockeymom said......Tallblonde posted that Jon isn't coming to that event. Kate was just in NYC alone and I believe Jon was at PSU alone. That may be saying something right there. Maybe they just don't want to be alone together while travelling and it also takes away Kate's ability to pick on Jon while on stage. Just a thought that something is rotten in Denmark!

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My guess is that they're not traveling together because they are booking events/meetings/press interviews etc. that coincide. Think about it, they could make even more money being in two places at once.
2/18/2009 5:58 AM
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Allegedly Jon and Cara (et al.) were in Utah this past weekend per Park City Topix post...

Its A Good Thing said...

IMHO Jon and Kate are not booking events together because they really can't be around each other without arguing, and who wants to pay to see that?

Another theory I have is that J&K realize there time of fame is running up and want to milk it for all they can.

It Happened said...

I don't like Kate or Jon but for a second just imagine being in their shoes, or even Mady and Cara's. You have a pretty normal life, Mom and Dad work they seem to be very much in love you have a perfect sized house, family and friends and then one day Kate decides she NEEDS another baby. Jon says no, the world is made for a family of four we have to daughters, jobs, a house Im happy. Then Kate pushes, pushes and pushes and then Jon gives in. I really think Kate's desire for another baby began the downfall of their marriage. I wonder if Jon feels horrible about not sticking up for himself and just telling her no and that is the end of it. Its not that he doesn't love his kids, he does but life would have been a whole lot easier if they hadn't gone back for treatments. Who knows, eventually Kate may have gotten pregnant with just one, they never really tried "the old fashioned way". Mady and Cara are excited they get a baby brother or sister and then Kate finds out it is 7. That has got to be terrifying. Jon realizes right away that they have ruined Mady and Cara's life but Kate not so much, she lives in her own little world. Jon worries about the money and they house and Kate worries about nothing because "God will provide". I think God will provide only when your willing to help your self. One fetus never developed so we are having SEXTUPLETS! Guess what family and friends and even strangers we need your help to raise them because we couldn't really afford 1 child much less 6! Yes by now I think Jon must feel pretty crappy. The donations start pouring in, Kate is loving all the attention, while Jon is busy working and taking care of his two daughters. Kate is in the hospital and Jon has lost his job when they go from being a family of 4 to a family of 10. Poor Mady and Cara are realizing that nothing is really about them any more. All mom and dad talk about is the 6 babies, all family and friends talk about is the 6 babies and everybody is coming to their house to see the 6 babies. Jon must be freaking, he has no job and 9 people to take care of. Kate decides she is going to get some money! She writes all the tv companies and Jon learns how to "make his kids marketable." Kate pushes all the volunteers away and demands the state may for a home nurse because "society promotes multiples." Somebody steps forward willing to do a one hour show. The show is a hit, everybody loves to see the happy couple with their cute sextuplets just trying to get by. They land a second one hour special and then a series! Jon is turning into a pretty happy camper, he has a job and he has a television show. Kate likes it but wants more. They decide Jon should quite his job and they are going to promote themselves, all the while expecting and receiving freebies. Kate even got a free tummy tuck! I wonder if at this point Jon is still regretting that second batch of treatments? Probably not, things are good all of America loves them. Kate gets more and more demanding and really starts to dislike Jon. But who can blame her right? The man does nothing, Kate does everything all by herself! @@ Viewers start to pick up on this hate and rumors start to fly. All of a sudden they aren't the most liked family in America anymore. I wonder if Kate is regretting yet? Probably not. Jon? probably. So while Jon and Kate grow farther apart people start to worry about the welfare of the children. They have been shown doing some pretty private things. Mady and Cara have been pretty much pushed away by their mother because its the babies who can make the big bucks. And Kate really doesn't like the boys, she pretty much just likes Hannah. I wonder if all the kids resent Hannah? Over the course of 4 years Jon has had a VERY successful man parts and spine removal, while Kate has grown more bitchy and has also sprouted some very seagalish hair. Mady and Cara have learned that acting out gets them some attention so they have basically turned into brats. No fault of their own however. The negative comments have grown, Kate has wrote a book, and is busy promoting it. Jon has bought a ski condo so he can get away from his controlling wife and the children are being raised by a parade of nannies. Great life right? Well freebies are slowing because the economy is failing, and on the day when so many lost their jobs Jon and Kate are shown moving into their new mansion, which by the way was FILTHY! @@ So Jon, are you regretting it? You and your wife have a loveless marriage, your children are rude and un-behaved. Yes I think Jon is regretting it. Kate are you? Well maybe a little bit. Mady and Cara? Yes I think they fully resent their brothers and sister and their parents, it shows every time they act out.

Just imagine if Jon had the guts to tell Kate no baby. They would be a happy family of four, perhaps five. (Im still not convinced she couldn't have gotten pregnant on her own). Even if they had the babies but had said no to the show? Perhaps they would still have family and friends? They would have a lot less money but I am sure they would be a lot happier.

Rant over! Sorry its so long.

qtrfan said...

Wow, I just watched the video of how they met. What a difference!

That really brings it home how much disdain Jon and Kate have for one another.

And don't get me started on the dogs. I can't wait to hear the excuses on why they could not keep them.

laura linger said...

Keight = Kate + Eight

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"Keight" always refers just to Kate Gosselin. It is the beloved hypothetical baby name for recapper "k8 is gr8." She said that if she ever had another daughter, she would name her Keight, in honor of her favorite television mother, Kate Gosselin.

PKD-in-Illinois said...

Okay, maybe I'm reading this situation wrong, but here is what I don't get ...

I don't think the point of the interview was to talk with an oooy-gooey, lovey-dovey couple. I think the angle was more along the lines of, "How do you keep a marriage strong in a life as hectic as yours?"

As in ... "If these people can stay in love with eight small children and all this publicity, then surely you can too!"

All Kate had to do was come up with a few things they do to keep their marriage together. DUH! A monkey could've come up with eight thing ... let's see ... off the top of my head:

1) Make time for yourselves. Just because you had children doesn't mean you aren't still a couple.

2) Leave sticky notes or reminders to your spouse of how much you love them. That little jolt of affection is so uplifting!

3) Even the ordinary everyday things can prove your love ... simply helping by taking out the trash or making your loved one's life easier can make all the difference.

4) Once a week, disconnect from the world. Turn off the cell phone. Turn off the computer and the tv. Try just talking and playing board games. You'd be amazed how much you'll connect when there are less distractions.

5) Sit down at the table together to eat at least once a week. No television and no phones. Just you and your spouse and your kids talking about your days or what they learned in school. It's a sure fire way to bond as a family AND as a couple.

6) Get away alone. If at all possible get friends or family to watch the kids so you and your spouse have time *alone*. Remember, someday the kids will be grown and your relationship will need to be the strong foundation that keeps you together.

7) Compliment your spouse at LEAST once a day. It's so easy to get caught up in the day to day grind. Remember at least once a day to say something positive and complimentary to them so they know YOU remember why you're still together.

8) Take care of yourself ... because if YOU are healthy and happy then your relationship has a better chance of being healthy and happy.

WOW, Kate ... amazing. Eight things you can do to keep a marriage strong. Go ahead ... cut and paste. And hey, keep a copy by the phone for the next time someone from the media calls ... because couldn't be bothered to even pull anything out of your a##.

BoyMomInTX said...

ItHappened,
I agree with what you've said, but Jon never had a chance to win that fight. Did you see the episode where he was putting together all the beds? He tried to argue with Kate about letting the kids sleep somewhere else during naptime so he could just finish the beds and she went BALLISTIC! He tried to fight back, but the look in his eyes, he just doesn't have the type of personality to match hers and win anything-she'll railroad him. Now, me? I'd have sat right there and died before I let Kate win a fight, but Jon, not so much.

At times, I feel sorry for him-he puts up with so much shit from her and he's Mr.Mom when he clearly doesn't really want to be. But what would happen if he left? Kate isn't going out of his life. Can you imagine the lists she'd have for him and she'd be checking in on him, making his life miserable anytime he wanted anything to do with the kids? And I believe Kate would get custody-she's able to put up more of a verbal fight than he is.

Its A Good Thing said...

laura linger said...
Keight = Kate + Eight

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"Keight" always refers just to Kate Gosselin. It is the beloved hypothetical baby name for recapper "k8 is gr8." She said that if she ever had another daughter, she would name her Keight, in honor of her favorite television mother, Kate Gosselin.

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Really? Somebody actually said that and wasn't kidding?

Anonymomma said...

It Happened said...
Just imagine if Jon had the guts to tell Kate no baby. They would be a happy family of four, perhaps five. (Im still not convinced she couldn't have gotten pregnant on her own). Even if they had the babies but had said no to the show? Perhaps they would still have family and friends? They would have a lot less money but I am sure they would be a lot happier.

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Your post really nails it. When my hubby and I decided to have our youngest (she's 13 months), we didn't give any warning to the other kids (ages 7, 10, 10, and 11 at the time). We just as well assumed they'd welcome a new sibling. It was the complete opposite. When we announced the pregnancy they were so shocked and not very excited at all. It was a hard realization for me to swallow because it never even occurred to me that they wouldn't be accepting of it.

Can you imagine being three years old (or any age) and especially after being doted on and adored and the absolute center of your parents universe, suddenly here comes six more that demand evey single minute of Mom and Dad's attention?

When we had the new baby, my MIL brought the bigger kids to the hospital that afternoon to meet her. They were cordial, but honestly, their reaction was still not what I had expected (I assumed that maybe once the saw the baby they'd warm up and I suppose I pictured a Disney moment). It took a few months (thankfully that was all and not any longer), but for the first few weeks, I was like, what did I do? The older kids were calling the new baby "it" and "That thing". It took a lot of patience for us all to reach a point of mutual acceptance over such a dramatic change in our family.

I think there would be a tremendous difference in Cara and Mady had the tups been a singleton. Actually, I think there'd be a trmemdous difference if JON had included them more in the process from the get-go. I know they show videos and pics of Kate and the twins in the hospital while she was on bedrest, but for the majority weren't they being cared for by her parents?

I think over time, as the babies turned into toddlers and the subsequently preschoolers, the twins were pushed out more and more and that's not only sad but there is no excuse for it. I'm sorry but IMO KON should have (and should still) make more of an effort. Not to do just one on one time, but to include them more and teach the tups to respect their older siblings for being just that, the older siblings.

Oh Jonny said...

I think Jon bails on these booked events because that's just how he is. That's why he got fired from his other jobs...not showing up. He sees it as work now and wants no part of it ( unless it's an audience of college age and below, more his intellectual level ).

I do think he is a good worker around the house ( when the cameras are on ). But outside of that, he just wants to play. I think even Kate sees this immature selfish side of him and is why we see her spaz so much.

Its A Good Thing said...

It Happened: Great comment. It is exactly the sad, sad, story of the Gosselin life. You had some very funny comments and it really made me feel so bad for Mady and Cara. They never wanted this and its obvious they don't really like the filming. The tups are used to it, for them its normal they have never known anything else. I wonder what Mady and Cara have been told about their family members and why they don't see them anymore?

Jennifer said...

And I believe Kate would get custody-she's able to put up more of a verbal fight than he is.

I don't think verbal fight comes into it, and I'm so surprised to see so many people thinking Kate would win custody.

IMO, all Jon has to do is demonstrate 1) that he's been the primary caretaker from day one and 2) that Kate doesn't have the mental wherewithal to take care of all eight children. Point 2) has been documented (lucky for Jon) on film and could be submitted as evidence.

Jon has been brushing their teeth, dressing them, getting the twins ready for school, emptying their potties, getting them all ready for bed from the beginning, even when he was working full-time. The one-sidedness of Jon's parental workload has been captured time and time again on film. And doesn't anyone remember how Julie told us that Kate didn't even know which toothbrush was whose and which tup was still in pull-ups? (Kate outright admitted she isn't the one to brush their teeth in the second dentist episode, and she pretty much outed Jon as the one to dress them and get them ready for bed also.) And then we have incidents like Gumgate captured on film for all eternity.

I'd really like to know what court would award full custody of these children to Kate?

Tammy H. said...

Maggie said...
To the person who alerted us with this article, I am so sorry that we lost the details to credit you with. If you read this please contact me at shatzie1980@yahoo.com so that we can acknowledge your contribution.

I sent you an email. I had commented (alerted the site about this article) on 1 of the other posts about this article. I explained everything in the email to you! I couldn't believe what I had read and I do believe it was a legit interview-that's Kate to a T. She is nicer to people who are strangers and giving her money or paying her bills than she is her own husband and those precious children. She doesn't deserve anything but a good ole' butt whooping from a country girl like me to straighten that attitude out. Jon needs a backbone, but I have never heard of that type of transplant so we might as well give up on that.

I feel so sorry for those kids. And it seems like no matter what we all do, Kate keeps getting more and more and no one takes into account how her children (tups'-who she said was not what she wanted)are exploited and forced to do what others are wanting them to do..just like the walk in the woods..I felt so sorry for those kids..TLC was filming so Jon forced them all to go, but you know, there were tons of people there at that house, chef, housekeepers, nanny...why couldn't the ones who didn't want to go stay with them, that's who they are with most of the time anyway. That's who they think are their family...they need their real family who truly love them and don't care about money or publicity. TLC has a cash cow and will milk it dry and that's what they are doing to the tups'!

Kate old girl-what goes around comes around and you will get yours in the end.

Virginia said...

To Boymom: In a custody battle Jon would have a lawyer to do the talking for him, so Kate's big mouth really wouldn't enter into it. And they have all that tape that would be admissible. As an attorney (not a divorce lawyer, though) I can tell you that video tape is something BIG!

Beagles 4 said...

I agree that this marriage is doomed. I feel even more sorry for the children because of the exploitation, with consequences now and in the future, and the inevitable fall of their parents' marriage. I do hope J & K realize that money doesn't buy happiness. I do believe that their greed has left them in this predicament.

Well, Jon and Kate, Happy Valentine's Day, and many more!!-I believe that will be directed to Jon and his new girlfriend in Utah, more than to the witch and Jon. As for Kate, she will have a lonely life, so Happy Valentines Day to Kate and her fame and money.

Jennifer D. said...

I am going to play devil's advocate for one second here.

Yes, Kate and Jon appeared to hate each other during their interview last night. I posted that comment myself.

BUT...let's be a tiny bit fair here:
They just went through a move and they are not unpacked yet.
They are making a decisions on remodeling, etc.
Kate is traveling and leaving Jon home with the kids.
Eight kids would drive anyone batty.

It's very possible that they just had a huge blow up right before the interview and they are still just both angry.

They are both at fault here. Jon is passive/aggressive and sarcastic. He acts like a child who will sneak behind kate's back to get his own way rather than being a man and learning to deal with his wife.

Kate is a control freak who clearly is feeling out of control.

Rather than having a relationship built on respect and compromise, they have both learned to manage to get their own way, regardless of how the other feels about it.

PhillyHockeyMom said...

Word... Word........ McWordy..... to It Happened. Your post was on point and well written. I also feel sorry for Cara and Mady and have heard Jon say a couple of times he felt sorry for the twins. I never have ever heard Kate say that!

Maria said...

Mrs. H
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Mrs. H has left a new comment on the post "Um... Happy Valentine's Day, Jon and Kate?":

Jessica Simpson and NIck Lachey's marriage were over mainly because of their reality show. Jessica became more popular than her husband, traveling and making records etc. The same is happening here.
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Just to clarify that their marriage didn't end because of the show. It ended because, as you said, Jessica became more popular than her husband. She let it go to her head and developed an overinflated ego and thought she deserved better than the man who had dedicated the past 6 years to her. She dumped him in an email.
But not to worry, because Karma will find Jessica.

AnnieD said...

This is interesting. The Chukwu octuplets will be on Anderson Cooper's AC360 on CNN AT 10/9pmEDT tonight (http://www.firstoctuplets.com/) Guess who wasn't asked, and I bet their publicist gets a blast for that.
I like the Chukwus. Dad works two jobs and while their website understandably looks for sponsors, it is inoffensive. They are caring, thoughtful and non-judgemental in what they say about the Sulemans. The kids are just as cute and I'm not privy to their every bowel movement.

pinkdiamond611 said...

All one has to do is refer back to the Yawn interviews where he states that he taught his children that Santa Claus is not real, and all of that dribble from the slopes in UT, and then ask yourself if Yawn deserves sympathy? They deserve each other. Plain and simple.

timetogokon said...

8) Take care of yourself ... because if YOU are healthy and happy then your relationship has a better chance of being healthy and happy.

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This one I'm not so sure about. In theory, it makes sense, but many women LIKE KEIGHT take this to the extreme.

IIRC, Keight actually did say something along these lines to justify her all-too-often spa visits. Can't remember when/where I read/heard this tho.........

Aeris said...

To add to what pinkdiamond611 said about the kids and Santa, Jon was proud of the fact that Cara and Mady were telling other kids at school that Santa wasn't real. It goes to show that J&K haven't taught their kids about respect for other people's beliefs. There is very little respect in that house for anyone or anything, for that matter.

I may be crazy, but I still have a hunch that the KONs are deceiving us with their hate for each other. They are too obvious in displaying it. All the nonverbals in the couch interviews are so "in your face" - the childish eye-rolling and slouching. If they have produced some of these newer episodes, than I feel certain they are playing with the audience. I happened to catch the last 2 minutes of Monday's show with Kate b!tching about Jon talking over her. We've heard this argument before, they're starting to repeat themselves. I think they know it is ratings gold and they're taking full advantage of it. Plus, it is taking some focus off the kids, which if KON are even slightly good parents, they are probably happy to give the kids (the twins at least) a break.

Don't get me wrong, I don't see a happy couple there at all. I believe that Kate did act like a snot to the writer doing the romance article. But I think the arguing we see on TV is mostly phony and exaggerated.

SweetDogs said...

I no way are German Shepards "dangerous". Unless they are TRAINED to be so. And how do the dogs look like guard dogs? THEY'RE PUPPIES! People have Shepards other for 'guarding'
I have 2 German Shepards and they are the sweetest dogs.

Wendy Bird said...

From the interview:
"This is stupid. I don't know why you're doing this story. We're not romantic or lovey. We're not that couple."

This is what I believe happened with the interview:

When Kate realized that the interview was not something she wanted to continue, I think that she assumed that the person interviewing wouldn't be able to write the article without "good" quotes from her. I think that she thought that she cancelled that interview and that nothing would be published. Instead what got published were her inappropriate responses to interviewer. Surprise, Kate!

Charlie Rose said...

What the fans of the show need to do is quit glorifying the Gosselins. The sins of the parents cannot be overlooked in this case of deliberate and intentional exploitation of their own children. It is a disgrace.

Its A Good Thing said...

Jennifer D: And Im assuming they have a big fight before all recent interviews? I haven't watched for two weeks but even before than they were rude, cold, and distant.

konspiracytheory said...

Get Real Kate said:

"Anyone who says marriage isn't work is lying" ????

I beg to differ. I've been married 21 years and my last "tiff" with my husband was in January 2005 that lasted a whole 15minutes. My marriage is very easy and not work at all. I'm very blessed in that department. Kate, you can keep your material things. I'd rather have my easy marriage.

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Regarding whether maintaining a marriage is work, IMHO I think a lot rides on the 'curveballs' that get thrown at you over the course of a marriage.

Speaking for myself, the first eleven years (dating + marriage) of my relationship were a walk in the park. Then we had child #1 (developmental delays), a few years of infertility, child #2 (seemingly fine at the time), child # 3 (developmental delays again), and recently the diagnosis of child #2 with a chronic illness. I never would have believed eleven years ago that our relationship could be so tested by all of these events. What I've learned is that unless you've been through the fire, you just don't know how you and your spouse will handle it. I'm happy to say my husband and I still love each other and aren't going anywhere (to use a Keight term), but I'd be lying if I said that our relationship was as blissful as it was before all of these events.

I guess this is part of what drives me crazy about KON - yes, eight young children was surely very stressful at one point, but all of their children have their health and those two still can't stop bitchin' about how hard life is for them.

Anonymomma said...

I don't think Jane is as passive as he makes himself out to be on the show. I think he's quite wise to the fact that the camera's are on him (most of the time, anyway). I think he knows exactly how to push Kate's buttons. And I think he loves the poor abused husband angle he plays so well.

As so many others have already said, I would love to be a fly on the wall when the camera's aren't on. I think Jane gets his digs in at Kate off camera and she retalliates in front of an audience. I also think that him dropping out of events they are both scheduled for is like a punishment toward Kate. Like, she pissed him off so now he's going to back out and sit at home (or Utah) and pout about it.

The worst part is, if any of this is the case, Kate is stupid enough to fall for the trap he's setting her up for (i.e., eventual divorce battle). I think she makes her body language and comments to the camera on purpose to show the viewers that they really aren't 'that couple', except she did it in such a way where she demonized herself.

Basically they are both KON's. BUt I think he's more of a snake in the grass than she is. SHe has a bigger mouth but I think he has a bigger bite.

DennWilly said...

What strikes me as odd is that Kate is ALWAYS careful in how she presents herself in the media and press. From a little back-water newspaper to the big shows.

Hmm...cracks begining to show?

Call me dense said...

Is there some third person in this equation? I am lost. Okay, so who is Jane?

Arieslikekate said...

According to the IMDB website, both Kate and Jon are DOWN in popularity this week.

Kate is down 14% while Jon is down 12%.

Wonder why? LOL

Jen K said...

Is there some third person in this equation? I am lost. Okay, so who is Jane?



Jane is actually Jon. When Kate was on Larry King he referred to her as "Kate from Jane and Kate Plus Eight" and the hilarity of it sort of stuck. :)

Get Real Kate said...

konspiracytheory said...
Get Real Kate said:

"Anyone who says marriage isn't work is lying" ????

I beg to differ. I've been married 21 years and my last "tiff" with my husband was in January 2005 that lasted a whole 15minutes. My marriage is very easy and not work at all. I'm very blessed in that department. Kate, you can keep your material things. I'd rather have my easy marriage.

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Regarding whether maintaining a marriage is work, IMHO I think a lot rides on the 'curveballs' that get thrown at you over the course of a marriage.

Speaking for myself, the first eleven years (dating + marriage) of my relationship were a walk in the park. Then we had child #1 (developmental delays), a few years of infertility, child #2 (seemingly fine at the time), child # 3 (developmental delays again), and recently the diagnosis of child #2 with a chronic illness. I never would have believed eleven years ago that our relationship could be so tested by all of these events. What I've learned is that unless you've been through the fire, you just don't know how you and your spouse will handle it. I'm happy to say my husband and I still love each other and aren't going anywhere (to use a Keight term), but I'd be lying if I said that our relationship was as blissful as it was before all of these events.

I guess this is part of what drives me crazy about KON - yes, eight young children was surely very stressful at one point, but all of their children have their health and those two still can't stop bitchin' about how hard life is for them.

2/18/2009 1:50 PM

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Is cancer and being on disability for three years a big enough curve ball? Our "dark night of the soul" has done nothing but strengthen us even more.

This is exactly why I can't deal with this couple who are not happy with what they have, and they ain't seen nothing yet. They would never last together if they had to go through what we have. Never!

T.R. said...

Charlie Rose said...
What the fans of the show need to do is quit glorifying the Gosselins. The sins of the parents cannot be overlooked in this case of deliberate and intentional exploitation of their own children. It is a disgrace.

2/18/2009 1:26 PM

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They can't help it. Fans are loonies.

older and wiser said...

2) Leave sticky notes or reminders to your spouse of how much you love them. That little jolt of affection is so uplifting!
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P-K-D in Illinois, maybe that's what all those sticky notes on the bathroom mirror in the old house were - little love notes to Jon!

Anonymomma said...

Today is 14 years for me and my husband. We've been through his ex-wife causing major conflict during what could definately be titled the world's nastiest divorce, a surprise pregnancy, an ex of mine causing trouble, twins who were very preemie, nearly losing our forth child in utero due to placental abruption, being evicted and having to move in with my in laws, my crazy family in and of itself, the twins being diagnosed with neurological and behavioral disorders, the possiblity of our last child having downs syndrome (by the grace of god the test was wrong), my mom's 16 month battle and loss to cancer, his stepfather dying of a heart attack and the family agonizing over having to shut off the machines, loss of jobs, and the hubby being diagnosed with neurofibromas of the spine. That's just a quick run down. I can literally write about 3 or 4 books just on our relationship alone.

Is it difficult? Abso-fricken-lutely. But the reason why we are still together, thru it all, is because we truly do love each other. We've been on the outs and have even filed for divorce once, but managed to work it out and I'm greatful because frankly, he is my better half.

Jon and Kate (mostly Kate) claim several times over that 'it's are life' and 'we love each other'. Sayng it and feeling it are two very different things. And there is just something about the way they say it, almost mechanical, that makes so many of us shake our heads because we can see it coming but they can't. Sometimes when you are that close to something it's hard to see.


On another note, the whole puppy thing? And the obvious lack of care, concernm or affection for one another in the recent episodes, combined with the fact that after doing the talk show blitz of the past few months and declaring they wanted to adopt, suddenly they both say in seperate interviews that (Kate: I can honestly say I will never have another child again) and (Jon: It is not medically possible for me to have any more kids (something to that affect), makes me wonder. Did Jon put his foot down? Did she get 'baby crazy' again and try to convince him to do another round and he maybe went and had a vasectomy or something? Could that be the reason for all the recent animosity between them?

Because whatever it is, it's something big. You can just sense it.

lisak said...

I am just glad someone finally had enough nerve to do a piece about what kind of person Take really is. I am sure there have been a many of failed article attempts with Take and they were intercepted by the PR team. Somehow this one feel through the cracks or this journalist just don't let people push her around. Good for her for exposing this crab.

Snark said...

Yet another article in a Christian magazine about how Kate manages to raise such a large family on a "budget". When, oh when are they going to open their eyes and see the truth about this woman?!

I just saw what the article was about, and couldn't stomach reading it.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/idolchatter/

Barbara said...

I do not love nor hate Jon and Kate. After e-mailing Sharla, she encouraged me to use this screen name since obviously someone is using my original name.

Sad.

Professional Mom said...

http://www.koreamjournal.com/Magazine/index.php/kj/layout/set/print/content/view/print/6918

Article in a Korean website. Jon and Kate interviewed last year.

Spencer said...

Hi all. :)

Long time lurker here. I'm just curious about what it takes to become part of your cult. I have the sacrificial refrigerators all ready, and the clorox wipes, but I was wondering what else I need for the initiation ceremony.

kay said...

It is interesting that Jon says it is not medically possible for him to have anymore children. If he did take it upon himself to have a vasectomy, why would he need to in the first place? I thought Kate "always had a feeling" and supposedly later found out she could not conceive the regular way.
Personally, I have wondered about Kate's story of infertility from the get go. This latest seems to confirms it even more. I wonder how many women or couples are taking fertility drugs when it is not needed and doctors give it because of greed. No offense to anyone, but there use to be a time when twins and triplets were rare...not anymore.

Margaret said...

In response to LucyD, I emailed Gateway Church Community Center at info@gcwired.com and they said:

We only have seats available at the 9am service. Please let me know how many you need. Kate Gosselin is speaking at our church - 260 Cowan Road Parkesburg PA 19365.

Jane in California said...

Virginia said:
To Boymom: In a custody battle Jon would have a lawyer to do the talking for him, so Kate's big mouth really wouldn't enter into it. And they have all that tape that would be admissible. As an attorney (not a divorce lawyer, though) I can tell you that video tape is something BIG!

I'm not a lawyer but I have worked in law offices for years, including some family law work (in California). There is an abundance of taped evidence that Jon is most definitely a primary care giver in the children's lives, as he is a stay-at-home dad, and has always been the one who bathes them, at least equally dresses and feeds them, takes them to school,, on outings, etc.

In fact, Kate seems more often to be involved in activities that do not involve the children, such as cleaning, doing her beloved laundry, off to speaking engagements, or taking an entire day to put away winter clothes (now wasn't that ridiculous? Who takes an ENTIRE DAY to put away clothing that you children will not longer be able to fit into next year? If you don't have younger children, and aren't expecting to have any more, you bag or box it up and give it away to charity, a friend, or if you are Kate - sell it to the highest bidder. But I digress.)

If Jon finally said "enough is enough," and sought custody, citing the fact that he's been a stay-at-home dad, has some source of income to support himself and the children, he would have an equal or possibly slightly greater chance than Kate at being awarded custody. Or perhaps the state they live in encourages shared custody -- either way, if he chose to go for it, he'd have a decent chance at prevailing (IMHO). In fact, the cincher would be to show the tape where Kate places Joel on the floor of the laundry room when he's sick, and Jon coming home and putting him into their bed instead. Which is the better parent your Honor?

anon18 said...

I am so glad to hear that the pups are gone. They can't even take care of their own kids, let alone any pets. When I was watching Mystery Diagnosis, I had to turn it everytime the commercial came on, German Shepherds are my heart dogs, I have a black right now, and we went through 3 groups of classes, and were trying for our Canine Good Citizen before I got sicker and had to stop, but I'm glad I got those classes in first. Plus, they are people dogs, they would have been miserable outside all the time, they love to be with their families.
I figured they wouldn't be there, or at the very least on film for long, because as sad as it is, I bet the animal advicates would have had more clout keeping them safe, than the children do.
I am sad that the kids have to suffer through losing another thing they loved again.
I just can't see a responsible breeder selling them one of their pups, and I also couldn't see J&K keeping them apart when the heat cycles came.

anon1967 said...

Oops, the post by anon18, should have been anon1967, missed a key and hit enter by mistake..

anon1967 said...

It happened...
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I wonder how Mady feels too, with Cara going with Jon, I bet she feels so alone. I'm sure she resents the 'tups too, and has conflicting feelings towards them. The saddest part is that it's not the kids faults at all, I wonder why that lawyer is standing up for the octomom, but not noticing what's going on in the Gosselin home too. Just because they are a couple, doesn't make their situation any better, just shows what will happen if octomom does do a reality show in the future.

BJCMOM said...

What I find interesting is that I read the actual article from the New York Times that spawned this columnist to try to do an interview. The article had a section where comments could be made, upon approval. I sent a very well written comment to the newspaper. It was thought provoking and non malicious. Today, not only was my comment not "approved" but the ability to even try to comment is now removed from below the article. Strange.

BJCMOM said...

Kay said...

It is interesting that Jon says it is not medically possible for him to have anymore children. If he did take it upon himself to have a vasectomy, why would he need to in the first place? I thought Kate "always had a feeling" and supposedly later found out she could not conceive the regular way.
Personally, I have wondered about Kate's story of infertility from the get go. This latest seems to confirms it even more. I wonder how many women or couples are taking fertility drugs when it is not needed and doctors give it because of greed. No offense to anyone, but there use to be a time when twins and triplets were rare...not anymore.
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Kay,
With all due respect, I too, am a PCOS diagnosis like Kate. While she turns my stomach and makes me cringe, I find anyone who claims to understand PCOS or infertility without living through it, frustrating. I have 1 beautiful child. That's what God gave me and I am grateful. She was conceived through infertility treatments like Kate's. However, I have 2 other children in heaven as they were lost in the first trimester each time, due to PCOS complications. My husband and I decided that he would have a vasectomy due to the fact that PCOS patients CAN sometimes get pregnant (both of our losses were from natural pregnancies). To go through anymore heartbreak would be devastating. So he had the procedure. My sister had multiples because of having PCOS and having to do fertility. Certain they could never conceive alone, they did nothing. Surprisingly, they DID later get pregnant and had baby #4-a special needs child. So it can happen and a vasectomy is still a good idea to be SURE you don't want more children, even with PCOS. PCOS does NOT mean you cannot get pregnant on your own. I am proof and so is my sibling.

2/19/2009 9:14 AM

bradleymom said...

I have to say that I have really been enjoying (especially with some very recent examples)the support that fellow posters are giving to one another. It may not be always "on topic" but I don't see why this sight would need to be limited in its focus and reason. It is just nice to read about women (and men too!) supporting and essentially "cheerleading" for one another, rather than tearing others apart. I think women often get a bad rap on this front. Of course, there are people that thrive on that - but I think far more want to see fellow people be their best and work together. How's that for a happy Thursday afternoon thought?

marypoppins said...

anon1967 said...
It happened...
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I wonder how Mady feels too, with Cara going with Jon,
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Jon and Cara go on special trips together- great!.
But I cant get a scene from the show out of my head.

All the kids at the dining table- a bit fussy.
Jon talking over the counter to Kate who is in the kitchen.
Cara gets off her chair and begins to through a tantrum about the tups getting juice.
Jon pinches her arm hard, she starts to cry. She is then sent to time out.

Why r they still 2gether? said...

I was diagnosed with pcos young
like Kate- Although I am nothing like her!
I too took Clomid and have 2 healthy children. I got pregnant
between the 2 but miscarried when
I wasn't on Clomid. My husband also
had a vasectomy.
Unlike Kate I did not try for just
one more- I knew I was a good mom to 2.
I'm surprised they are still together- and how do they get those 4 yr olds into those high
chairs? Does the front bar come
off to make it more like a chair?

mollybloom said...

I feel truly bad for those of you who have posted who have ongoing difficulties. Jon and Kate are an insult to people with real problems.

So many of Jon and Kate's problems have been self-inflicted. Watching them is like watching a building implode.

Maria said...

kay has left a new comment on the post "Um... Happy Valentine's Day, Jon and Kate?":

It is interesting that Jon says it is not medically possible for him to have anymore children. If he did take it upon himself to have a vasectomy, why would he need to in the first place? I thought Kate "always had a feeling" and supposedly later found out she could not conceive the regular way.
Personally, I have wondered about Kate's story of infertility from the get go. This latest seems to confirms it even more. I wonder how many women or couples are taking fertility drugs when it is not needed and doctors give it because of greed. No offense to anyone, but there use to be a time when twins and triplets were rare...not anymore.

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Many people have speculated that Kate had her ovaries stimulated, and then the doctor told her they were OVERstimulated, and that Kate probably went against the doctors advice to NOT have sex. They speculate she "tricked" Jon into having sex while her ovaries were hyperstimalted, and well, you know the rest.

MOMX2 said...

Yet another article in a Christian magazine about how Kate manages to raise such a large family on a "budget".

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When most people think of budgets, they think of not having enough money. But, budgeting can mean spending the money you have wisely or restricting it.

I have two children. My sister has six kids. We have about the same household income, which is a comfortable amount. (We both waited to have kids until we were older.)

What I can do with two kids, she could not even think of with six, everything costs her three times as much!

My children's clothes are better, our vacations are longer and more plush, our house size is about the same, but ours is decorated with nicer things.

I think when kate talks about "budgeting" she is talking about doing things with 8 kids. Granted, the show has changed their lives, but eight kids is still eight kids.

Even with the money they have made, I do not think they would be doing a quarter of the stuff they are doing now (vacations, clothes, etc.) if they had to pay for it themselves. It would simply cost too much.


If I spend $100 on each of my children that's $200, my sister would spend $600, and Kate would spend $800. That's a big difference.

One more thing on Kate, my aunt always said that a stingy person with their money (not careful or budget friendly, but STINGY), would be stingy in all aspects of their lives, including the bedroom! I think that probably fits Kate perfectly.

Kathleen said...

I think Kate and Jon have a lot of problems in their marriage. BUT, I think their marriage is typical of a lot of marriages. Many of the posters here talk glowingly of their marriage and, frankly, I find it hard to swallow. The divorce rate in this country is over 50%. And that's just the people who divorce, not the ones hanging on, living in misery.

When I was in college, many of my friends' parents got divorced. They stayed togethe to raise the kids and finally, one said enough, and that was it.

So, yes, I think that Jon and Kate have a lot of problems in their marriage and, no, I would not want it for myself. But, I think some of the posters are not being completely truthful about marriage and what theirs is really like. Like the parents of my friends, just cause you are married now, doesn't mean you will be in 5-10 years. Same goes for Jon and Kate.

I could count on one hand the number of truly happy, healthy marriages that I know. Yes, I know a lot of people, I'm not sheltered just realistic.

AnneMarie said...

Well, I'm going to glow away then. A 50% divorce rate means that 50% are still married, and some of those are doing just fine, if not quite well.

DH and I have been together for 18 years. We have one child. We have NEVER had a screaming match. We have only disagreed a couple of time, and it was nothing that lasted more than 30 minutes of quiet and reflective thought. I can count the number of times on one hand. We are not religious, but we are well suited to each other, and function like rational adults who not only respect each other, but also ourselves.

We both grew up in homes where we saw the other side of marriage. His house was a screamfest, with affairs, and ended up in divorce. Mine was a screamfest, with affairs, some physical and mental abuse, but they worked it out and have been married 40 years.

We both really don't see the point in arguing or grudge holding, or plotting against each other. We've seen many marriages around us fail, mostly due to bad decisions and poor behaviour.

We even have our life style against us. We are military. We pack up and move every two or three years. My DH is frequently gone, underfire, and generally in a high stress environment. This leaves me behind to hold everything together at a moment's notice, not even knowing WHERE he is at any given moment, or when/if he'll return.

We are very happy and contented when we are together. In fact, we find joy in simple things, like walks, family game night, and just being together.

If you're not buying it, that's fine. I'm not selling it, because it cannot be bought. There are MANY marriage out there that run like well oiled love machines. The reason is that the couple choose to take the time to find out what the other needs, while not missing out on what they need, and finding a partner that repsects themselves enough to do the same for them.

The number one thing I do NOT see in KON's relationship, nor have I ever, not even in their early videos is true love and respect for each other or others.

That said, I need coffee before I pack DH's bags again.

toocoldinvermont said...

I agree with Kathleen. There are a lot of miserable married people, way higher than 50%. Some don't get divorced because of money, the kids, and others just have affairs and stay married.

AnneMarie,

You are very lucky that you have a good marriage. People in the services have a much higher divorce rate than the national average of 50%.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

"It is interesting that Jon says it is not medically possible for him to have anymore children."



Well it's what a lot of us have been saying for years........Jon doesn't have a set of b@lls!!! That would make it medically impossible for him to have children!

Anonymomma said...

"If you're not buying it, that's fine. I'm not selling it, because it cannot be bought."


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If that ain't the truth, nothing is! Thank you, AnneMarie!

Jen K said...

AnneMarie wrote:
If you're not buying it, that's fine. I'm not selling it, because it cannot be bought. There are MANY marriage out there that run like well oiled love machines. The reason is that the couple choose to take the time to find out what the other needs, while not missing out on what they need, and finding a partner that repsects themselves enough to do the same for them.


So true! I guess I'm guilty of being in that 50% of happy marriages too then. :)

My husband and I have also never had a screaming match. We've disagreed and had arguments but it has never become anything ugly or disrespectful. It's usually 5 minutes of blah, blah and then a half hour to walk away and come back and talk about it.

The fact that Kate says marriage is hard work and that anyone else who says something different is lying just shows how out of touch she is with how relationships can be. Does a marriage take effort? Yes! But work? Not in my experience.

To me, the difference between effort and work is that effort is something you put forth for the other person (thinking of them, doing something nice for them, little surprises, etc) and work is when you are just trying to keep it together in that grin and bear it sort of way hoping it doesn't implode.

If that is what she is experiencing, then I fear no amount of effort will repair what she and Jon are "working" on.

And to be as condescending as to say, "anyone who says different is lying" is rude. Just because she can't have a healthy, respectful and happy marriage that doesn't mean they don't exist. She just doesn't put forth the EFFORT to make it happen.

Jon WILL (not, might..WILL) grow tired of this eventually. No human can take this for years and years. One day he will wake up and say, "this is the last day I live like this" and she will be blindsided. It's because she is blind to what she is doing to her husband and her kids every time she loses her mind over something stupid. They will all lose respect for her and resent her in the future.

Karma's a b*i*ch and she's coming for Kate. :) What goes around always comes around.

K.Mom said...

Somehow ths article just doesn't ring true to me. Although not the best speaker, those last few remarks especially just don't sound legit.

yeaisaidthat said...

"Anyone who says marriage isn't work is lying" ????


The difference is; unlike Jon and Kate Gosselin, the 'work' and energies that I, or my husband put forth are for the PURPOSE of said marriage, not to convince, promote, justify, or persuade the public or a viewing audience.

3ts said...

BJCMOM,

I stand corrected and offer my compassion for your condition. Also, I apologize if I posted in the wrong thread. I am new to posting here and have noticed now that there is already another "kay", sorry. I will be changing my name to "3ts"..three "kids" with names beginning with T.

I would like to tell Kate and Jon the snide remarks they make to each other, especially the ones dub as humor will help end their marriage. Been there, done that. Kate's harping/belittling of Jon on the couch covers up that she doesn't know what her kids are doing and her own insecurities and fears. She passes these fears on to her kids instead of helping them succeed. You can almost see these behaviors jumping off of Kate onto Jon and the kids like fleas from a dog. Now Kate is dancing as fast as she can, while Jon has reverted back to his college days...and the children lose.

Anonymomma said...

Kate equates love with money. Her children's affections = marketability. So it only makes sense that marriage = work. Work = job. Job = money. Kate thinks she should be paid to be Jane's wife, just like she's being paid to be her kid's mother.

FXfanatic said...

The older kids were calling the new baby "it" and "That thing".

I know it's not really funny but this did make me laugh. You have funny kids!

tallblonde said...

I was just thinking about the episode where Jon & Kate take the tups back to visit the hospital where they were born - and they visit with Kate's doctor who was her doctor during the pregnancy - he was happy to see the kids but it didn't seem that he was happy to see her AT ALL *LOL* - I'm sure he was thinking she was like a "bad penny" & showing up again....

Anonymous said...

Poor Jon has obviously adopted a "Cheaper to Keep Her" mentality. Can you imagine the child support payments on 8 kids!!!

No wonder they have 27 achers and a tractor! The poor guy needs to get away! Maybe he needs to get with the guys over on HGTV and see about them building him a "Man Cave" while he still has his manhood.

And what about the role model he is for those boys? That it's perfectly okay to be absolutely P***y whooped by your wife on national TV as long as you get a check. And all you moms of 4 year old little boys...do you want your son growing to marry one of those girl knowing that they were raised in the image of Kate???

Their body language on the "love seat" tells all. No more snuggleing, no more arm around her back, she doesn't even give him "love smacks" anymore. Except for the verbal ones!