Glamorizing of Large Families and their Exploitation

Here is the article.

It all seems very "Brady-Bunch" sweet, but just one problem: Kate can be a raving she-devil. Obsessive and neurotic, the woman constantly talks down to poor Jon as if he were one of the kids and berates him over the most minor of issues. (In a recent episode, she launched into a lengthy tirade after he failed to use a coupon while buying a shower nozzle.)

Ah, there’s nothing like exploiting the media, and your kids, when it suits your needs.

37 comments:

I love my son! said...

Well put, but it doesn't matter. Nothing will happen to J&K. The show will continue no matter how much bad press they receive.

Auntie Anne said...

I am afraid I have to agree with the above letter. When people are lining up by the hundreds to see Kate and have her sign her book, I am afraid the folks who adore her far outweigh those of us who feel we know her as she really is.

I am quite certain many more people love their show than those of us who are saddened or angered by what we see.

Jon and Kate stated they would "do anything for the kids." I think that "doing anything" includes not caring too much if your wife yells at you like a "friggin dog", or if your husband tells you to "take the stick out."

That mansion, the trips, the hair, the teeth, the toys, the crew, personal assistants, nannies, and being seen as celebrities is good enough to count as doing "anything for the kids."

After all, we all know that the kids "deserve" that house and that life style. So why do they care if their life spins out of control at times, because the show must go on!

And I think it will go on for quite some time.

Brian said...

The show will go on until people realize that their own kids are as cute as Jon and Kate's. We can tune into our own families if we want to see crying and whining and kicking and screaming kids. We can look over and videotape our own wives if we want to hear a shrew castigating somebody. Wait a minute - that show is so over.

Jon&EightHateKate said...

I think Kate should donate her house to Octomom. She obviously needs it more than she does. Anyone else see Kate almost break down in tears on Dr. Phil? The help runs out. Does that mean no more freebies for you Kate? Or *gasp* you actually have to stay home with your kids and be a mother? She disgusts me.

Lisak said...

I think the show has about run its course, because of the kids are getting out of that cute stage, Kate is getting intolerable to watch, Kate worries about one dent in an appliance when other people are worrying about losing their homes and jobs. I think everyone will start to see them for what they really are soon, even the most dedicated sheeple couldn't be that blind.

Mindy said...

"I am quite certain many more people love their show than those of us who are saddened or angered by what we see."

I disagree. While the ratings are still high, my recent experience tells me viewers are changing their minds, as far as how they view Jon & Kate.

Over the holidays, at numerous get togethers, I overheard multiple conversations where ONE person would bring up the show, to see if others would AGREE that Kate is now a raving BITCH. I heard my relatives, (and the year before we all couldn't say ENOUGH about how much we loved the show!) these SAME relatives all could not believe the change that has taken place. NO one felt like Kate was a "super mom", not anymore. No one.

Same thing happened last week at work. Someone said they watched the show and the whole ROOM of co-workers went OFF. Not ONE actual fan. Many viewers, NO admirers!!!! NONE!!!

MayDay said...

Anyone else see Kate almost break down in tears on Dr. Phil? The help runs out. Do you remember in one episode when Kate said that they "canceled" all the help for one night to see if they could do it on their own. And they did and I am sure that let everyone know they did..then the people probably stated do dwindle because "The Wonder Parents" can do it.. they can do anything!! Kate wanted it both ways...the help when she wanted it and the praise when they did it alone. Can't have it both ways Kate!

BostonBean said...

Yes, their appeal on that show is dwindling.
Do not underestimate what people on here feel. Just because you read a lot of pro-KON reports; don't be dissuaded.
There is strength in numbers and we have the numbers.
Continue to write to sponsors, continue to email Dr. Phil, CNN, Good Morning America....anywhere that you see Kate being interviewed about the new Suleman family.
TELL THE TRUTH about how the KONS have operated.
The truth about them will be revealed this year!
Even the sheeple eyes will be opened.

sean said...

This show will not continue too much longer. For one thing more and more people are wising up to them. For another with the state of the economy people do not want to here about someone who has everything handed to them whine so much. And with octomoron and what she is costing the CA taxpayer(me), while CA release inmates becaue of cost and is cutting 10,000 state jobs, people are over watching families with too many kids.

Sue said...

I disagree with 'I Love My Son,' and 'Auntie Anne.' I used to love the show, looked forward to the new episodes and watched reruns for hours on end. But recently I noticed a downward spiral of very negative family interactions which prompted me to do a bit of research to find out what happened to this once lovable and engaging family. That resulted in me finding this site, Gwop The parents are now so short tempered and aggresive/abusive with the children; Kate's hyper critical attitude towards Jon that was once sort of cute but now is downright degrading and the greed that has consumed these parents is impossible for any viewer to ingore. The premise of an entertaining, 'cute as a button' family is so not the Gosselins anymore. They have made a mockery of large families and are now the prototype for human breeding disasters. Don't underestimated the viewing public! It didn't take me long to see the contrasting conflictions between earlier episodes and the current ones. Exploitation, diminished core family values, poor role modeling, abuse/neglect issues and ruling with an iron hand are extremely prevalent. More and more people are becoming disenchanted, even the die hard cult followers.

Eurogal said...

Probably a side-track to this thread, but it's not just in US that people try to make money out of their family relations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145643/Parents-13-year-old-father-Alfie-embroiled-tawdry-battle-make-packet-scandal.html

In Britain a 13-year old father's family is determined to make as much money as possible on their story. Teen mothers are not uncommon in Britain, but using the family for "money-making" like this is something new. They may have learned from others?

PS. Feel free to move this post to another location if deemed appropriate.

mollybloom said...

I suspect Jon and Kate with kids in tow will be on a Korea trip soon. They could make some serious money in Korea and possibly in Japan and Taiwan as well. However, they'd better hurry. As the kids get older and the twins being to opt out, the window of opportunity narrows. I'm surprised they haven't done this yet as Jon's heritage is a perfect excuse for a new venue to exploit, uh, explore. And imagine the fun of watching Kate insult "icky" Korean culture as she and Jane rake in the won.

I'm not telling them anything their publicity team hasn't already thought about, I guarantee.

Voss said...

This isn't the freelance article from a few months ago, is it?

Serena said...

This isn't the freelance article from a few months ago, is it?

Nope.

Peggy Poltrock said...

mollybloom: I thought this very same thing! I bet they do have a trip to Korea in the works; totally free of course!

Betsy in PA said...

At PSU last week, John was asked if they were taking a Korean trip and he hemmed and hawed and reminded folks to stay tuned for the new season and lots of exciting things. He also said that if they were planning a trip, he wouldn't be allowed to tell anyone... Wanna bet?????

chick said...

Remember "One of these things is not like the other" from Sesame Street? Let's play TLC's version!

Upcoming on TLC this week...

Matt of LPBW rteturns to Iraq to help children affected with dwarfism.

Kate of J&K+8 complains about a dent in her newly donated dryer given to her to use in her newly aquired million dollar plus house.

The Duggars take a mission trip to a poor area in South America.

And the answer is?

Exhausted said...

Any article that attempts to shine some truth on the whole J&K mess is a good start; however, I fear that this writer, much like most of the media, has not taken the time to look beyond the image. It's not just about the "ha, ha, Kate's a grouchy wife" bit to the show. Also, Jon is portrayed as a victim yet again when he really is a tyrant to the children in his own way and he seems to be with Kate because he's an opportunist with no spine.

There's also no mention that they just moved into a million dollar home because of the children's work or that the mental abuse these kids sustain is beyond description. Lastly, there's not even any hypothesis that they have behind-the-scenes help that they don't show or refer to. Plus, there's still that tone that poor Kate is so busy with all the diaper changing and packing she must do! When the heck were the kids in diapers last, and when did Kate do anything for her family last? She couldn't even be around on a huge day like moving day.

Again, it's good to see some criticism, but it's as though the media continue to see what Kate wants them to see, criticism or not.

Harriet said...

Speaking of Jon, in Utah he said something like 19 million people a week watch Jon and Kate. Why is it then that Neilsen lists them usually at around 2 to 2.5 million? I know why. Neilsen only counts viewers who watch the first run episode each week while TLC and Jon add up all the viewers for each episode they air each week. So if you put on the show 20 times a week and count them all you can boost your numbers to try to make yourself sound like you're in CSI range.

Sue said...

I have to wonder how favorably the Koreans would view this family who defies Asian values?

marypoppins said...

chick said...
Remember "One of these things is not like the other" from Sesame Street? Let's play TLC's version!

Upcoming on TLC this week...

Matt of LPBW rteturns to Iraq to help children affected with dwarfism.

Kate of J&K+8 complains about a dent in her newly donated dryer given to her to use in her newly aquired million dollar plus house.

The Duggars take a mission trip to a poor area in South America.

And the answer is?
____________________________

And I bet you dont see Matt and The Duggers handing out copies of their books and dvds.

marypoppins said...

Um the gang going to Korea??

The kids wont even walk outside in their yard without screaming and crying

A delayed flight to Utah had Kate in pieces.

J and K couldnt even navigate the airports to Hawaii,USA without snipping at each other

Taking them to a foreign country with a differnt culture is just too much.
That will just stress out the kids.
Hey why not wait until they are older say 10-12 yrs. They might appreciate it/understand more.

Maria said...

Anonymous Brian said...

The show will go on until people realize that their own kids are as cute as Jon and Kate's.

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Actually, Brian, I have NEVER found their kids to be that cute. Not at all. And as the show goes on, I find the children to be more and more annoying.

craftycorner said...

One difference between the Gosselins and the Duggers is the Duggers largely built their home themselves. Admittedly they had decorator help, but they did build it, cameras don't lie.

Merrilee said...

The Duggers did build their own home. All of the bigger kids had their own tools! They worked on it by themselves for over three years. They paid for their house as they went along. They have no debts because of their house building. Finally TLC stepped in and helped them finish it. Since they were truly novices, some of the work they did made it difficult for the professionals to finish it, but finish it they did. Then TLC furnished and decorated it. Good on them! And good on the McCaugheys that they got a new home for their family. They did not continue on to exploit their children.

I am concerned that the Duggers may be pulled in to do things they certainly would not ordinarily do. I hope they put their foot down when and if TLC crosses the line with what they want the family to do.

2badsosad said...

chick said...
Remember "One of these things is not like the other" from Sesame Street? Let's play TLC's version!

Upcoming on TLC this week...

Matt of LPBW rteturns to Iraq to help children affected with dwarfism.

Kate of J&K+8 complains about a dent in her newly donated dryer given to her to use in her newly aquired million dollar plus house.

The Duggars take a mission trip to a poor area in South America.

And the answer is?
____________________________

And I bet you dont see Matt and The Duggers handing out copies of their books and dvds.

Interesting how J & K's version of teaching and exposing their children to 'life experiences' invloves residing in 5 star luxery resorts and the accomodations that come with, using an opportunity to 'give back' as a means to self promote, and isolating their children from the 'realities' of the people and the diverse cultures that make our world unique.
Kudos, to this week's episodes of the Duggar and Rolloff families for 'stepping outside the box' by offering its tv audience (and their children) a REAL view of our world and its 'reality'.

BostonBean said...

Harriet -- That's because Jon just says any numbers that pop into his mind. Remember the NY trip when they went on the Central Park ride? He also misquoted the amount of people in NY that time! LOL He doesn't have a clue.
Whatever the KON say, you can cut into fourth, probably.

Molly --Yes, a Korean trip is already planned and was in the works for months before they actually went. Temember months before, when Kate said they would be taking some time to retrace Jon's steps? (before he got married) That was about Korea. After that will be Europe, because he was backpacking across Europe just before he met Take.

RememberMe said...

I think this is the most important part of that article:

But perhaps the more important question is: What is television doing to these children? And how will being forced to play out a big chunk of their lives in a fishbowl affect them in later years?

When it comes to TV programs about jumbo-sized families, maybe two is more than enough.

Shiva said...

Long tme reader, first time poster. I couldn't help but read some things on IMDB and clicked the links to an 'anti-gwop' site. The amount of delusion was astounding. I watch the show with my 8yr old, and SHE even sees the bad parenting, lack of caring and concern, and the ad nauseum product placement. She loves the kids, and from originally laughing and oohing/awwing over them, its now replaced with 'Mama, you and Daddy would never act that way'. My daughter is allowed, encouraged even, to go out, play, get dirty, learn, explore! She is also classified as a 'medical preemie', but we took the advice when she was a baby to make sure we did NOT shelter her. A few colds and tummy bugs later, she is a bright happy kid who knows that its ok to get dirty, and to have fun. That is what a bath and a washer is for. I feel so badly for the Gosselin children, they have no idea what the world is like and what situations their parents are exposing for profit. Very few things bring me to tears on TV, but the sight of little Alexis COWERING in fear at her own father just broke my heart. I ache for Mady, she is so lost and confused, and her only outlet is frustration. I don't know if we will watch it anymore, its getting to difficult to even rationalize watching the tups and their antics.

Monica A said...

I also feel bad for these kids. Kate's excuse for not letting them experience anything (like chewing gum) is because there are too many of them...yeah right, try laziness. I have to wonder, how much attention were they paying to the tups when they had gum that they didn't notice it until well after they got home and made a mess with it?

I don't believe for a moment she is OCD. She is just spoiled and picky. Whe it comes to her kids, she is just lazy. No question about it.

I keep my house clean and organized. When my 6 year old gets her clothes muddy, I tell her 'good thing we have a washer' My kids love to help with yard work and yes that includes getting dirty. They play with chalk and eat popsicles that start to melt in less than 3 minutes. They also play in the rain. That is what being a kid is all about.

I justwish someone would remind Take of that. All I can say is that, these poor kids are going to have such a horrible life.

SmartyQ said...

mollybloom said... I suspect Jon and Kate with kids in tow will be on a Korea trip soon. They could make some serious money in Korea and possibly in Japan and Taiwan as well.
I’ve spent a lot of time in Korea, China and Japan, and I can assure you that not all Asians are created equal in the eyes of other Asians. There are vast cultural and attitude differences among, say, the Koreans, Chinese and Japanese. That’s been true for hundreds of years and is still true. My neighbor’s son married a half-Japanese woman, and they have a son, who is one-quarter Japanese. They live in Japan, and the son, who was born in Japan, who has lived there all of his 15 years and speaks fluent Japanese was referred to as ‘foreign boy’ in his Japanese elementary school. While he has male Japanese friends, none of the parents of the girls he knows wants their daughter to date him. They consider him one step above a Korean, and believe me, they think Koreans are the lowest of the low.

While I can’t say for certain, I’m not sure the Chinese will be particularly enamored of the Gosselins either. They too don’t have a high opinion of Koreans.

marypoppins said...

Dear Kate,
If you do go to Korea or wherever, please do not carry on loudly about all the cute asian people who are glad to see you.

Dear Korea,
If Jon and Kate plus 8 do come to your country, please remember that they do not represent the average normal American family.
Normal families are (1) nicer (2) respect each other (3) currently trying to survive this economic downturn.

timetogokon said...

They consider him one step above a Korean, and believe me, they think Koreans are the lowest of the low.

While I can’t say for certain, I’m not sure the Chinese will be particularly enamored of the Gosselins either. They too don’t have a high opinion of Koreans.

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Unless you are Korean and have lived in Korea, please do not make such generalizations.

I would like to think that people won't be enamored of Jane and Keight because they are crass and ignorant with no manners.

Lily Locke said...

This is a very interesting phenomenon. However, isn't this one of those odd things that sometimes occur and people try to say are related? (Like when they did that movie about the pregnant kid, Jamie or Janey, or whatever her name was, and they blamed it for the pregnant teen outbreak.) Regardless of what they try to say, we've all got free will.

What I can't figure out and it's driving me crazy is, did Kate overstimulate her ovaries or did she do IVF? I've seen it reported both ways.

SmartyQ said...

timetogokon said... Unless you are Korean and have lived in Korea, please do not make such generalizations. I would like to think that people won't be enamored of Jane and Keight because they are crass and ignorant with no manners.

Please re-read my post. I was not speaking of the attitude of Koreans toward Kon but rather of what many (if not most) Chinese and Japanese think of Koreans, and therefore, what these two nationalities might think of Kon and their dog and pony show. If you do some reading on the subject, you will confirm my information.

timetogokon said...

Please re-read my post. I was not speaking of the attitude of Koreans toward Kon but rather of what many (if not most) Chinese and Japanese think of Koreans, and therefore, what these two nationalities might think of Kon and their dog and pony show. If you do some reading on the subject, you will confirm my information.


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I understood exactly what you were saying which is why I responded to it. I don't have to do any reading on the subject as I AM Korean.

Generalizations such as this are archaic and inaccurate. What if I said that I know that all Italians don't think too highly of Greeks (this is totally hypothetical!) and I know this because I lived in Rome for 2 weeks ? My point is that, IMO, a person cannot truly understand the attitudes of an ethnic group unless that person is OF that ethnic group.

My father is very wary of Japanese people, cars , etc because he was a boy when the Japanese occupied Korea, and he was treated like dirt by the Japanese army - although this was many years ago, those wounds never healed. He feels this way, and I'm sure many in his generation feel this way, but for me to make a blanket statement that ALL Koreans feel this way is unjustified.

My statement about how people will feel towards KON was an aside.

mollybloom said...

I lived in Japan for several years and now work with students from Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. I think it is highly likely that the Gosselins could do "well" in industrialized Asian countries (where families tend to be small) simply because there are eight kids, six of whom are from one pregnancy. The Gosselins are a novelty even in the US, where large families and multiple births are somewhat common. Furthermore, the kids are little, cute, and of mixed Asian-European heritage. I don't think people would see the kids as Korean, but as Eurasian.

Of course, success is all in the promotion. The PR firm would need to keep Kate on a tight leash, as she doesn't seem to care about her audience and often lacks common sense.