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ThreeFarmers said...

How many Kate Gosselins does it take to screw in a light bulb?

One, she stands there and holds it while the whole world revolves around her.

That's if Kate ever screwed in a light bulb.

Yes, I'm bored.

Sidney said...

Heh! Thanks 3F, I needed a good laugh just now.

CantTakeItAnymore said...

Can someone post a detailed list with everything that we are supposed to be boycotting. I don't care how long it takes I will write every one of them.

Auntie Anne said...

Psst, CantTakeItAnymore, go to the main page, the topic of "Does P&G Have Trouble Counting?" Go to the 9:30 PM post -- the poster gives a lot of the products that P&G produce.

Min said...

Question: what the BEST part of being a stay-at-home mom, according to Keight?

Answer: flying around the country and leaving the kids at home with Jon. OR a nanny. Whatev.

The funniest part is how on the show, Jon is incapable of doing anything correctly, "just like a man" you know.
But on Larry King? Jon is very helpful. Heh heh.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Very witty 3f

MsPeabody said...

CantTakeItAnymore said...
Can someone post a detailed list with everything that we are supposed to be boycotting. I don't care how long it takes I will write every one of them.

You can look on the back of the product also to see if P&G made it when in doubt or whatever company you want to boycott.

Vicki said...

Three farmers, we love you. Just
when We (I)need to smile and laugh you come through siber-space for us

Vicki said...

Cyber-space. Sorry 3F and all. I really can spell most times.
(Sad day for me-losing job I love today but will still have one with the Co. I work for. I consider myself lucky and blessed to have a job at all. Unlike the Gosselins
I see and count EVERY Blessing given me and seek to understand what I am to learn from the situation.)

anne123 said...

I just checked out the Lancaster and Reading, PA Craig's List. There are some posts on there and one from a neighbor that's interesting.

Devan said...

I have watched the Gosselins from the beginning and here is my theory.

Before the show was so popular, what gave them national attention was Kate and the way she acted. I remember seeing them on AOL before they were TLC's #1 show. The article was talking about Kate's behavior and how she treated Jon. I think they called her a shrew and you could vote on it if you agreed.

Then someone posted on here that TLC hired a cleaning company to clean the new house, but leave the kitchen alone. Obviously, the frig show was a set-up. I mean, I think that is how Kate really is, but TLC winds her up and lights the fire. TLC probably put the mouse droppings in the kitchen just to get her more upset. Really, how Kate acts is all they have on the show, besides the kids being adorable every now and then.

My point is, I think TLC loves the fact that Kate upsets people. That is the shows only pull. They are playing the audience and using Kate at the same time. She doesn't care because she gets $ in the deal.

I have an aunt who is just like Kate. If I took snippets of her during our holidays and played them together, it would be just like Kate. People would be horrified and they would probably also watch. (I'm sure every family has someone like Kate.)

TLC knows exactly what they have in Kate and they are using it to their full advantage.

Cheryl B said...

I am starting to think Kate is a Teflon Turd.

No matter what is uncovered about her it slides off. Company managers lie about negative mail they get. Reporters and talk show host seem afraid to ask real questions.

I hope the reporter that was on here is still digging for something to stick to this horrible
witch.

Thanks gwop mods for all your hard work.

DMSfrom PA said...

Hi,
I posted yesterday on the free discussion but I think I posted a little too late to get a response so I'm trying again. Did anyone else ever wonder why Kate made that video with her and the twins and the babies? Someone posted something the other day which jogged my memory about that video. The video was part of the first special I think and its where she says something like, It's not a glamorous job but it is a very rewarding job. Then she says something like, thanks for watching our video. I am now thinking that she made that video to market her family to TV stations. Jon once said that the show all started when they received an email from Figure 8 or something like that. Well, I'm betting that the email was in response to a solicited video! I am just fed up with the whole package. Anyone else have thoughts about that video?

Scruffy's Mom said...

I ask, what's left on their physical selves that they can buy (get donated) to make themselves more "perfect"?
They already have fake tans, fake eyelashes, teeth whitening, hair plugs, tummy tuck, hair color, botox .. (My guess is Jane already has had lasik surgery.)
What will be next?

14 Little Faces said...

Uh-oh. Queen Freebie Irene better watch out. The octuplet mom is VERY pretty (or "marketable" as Doofus Jane would say). Her PR agent (that's public relations to you rubes that are too stupid to know that) is laying out a very sympathetic and compelling story about her. I smell a new series!!

my9cats said...

anne123 said...
I just checked out the Lancaster and Reading, PA Craig's List. There are some posts on there and one from a neighbor that's interesting.

2/06/2009 3:13 AM

I'm not familiar with Craigs List and could not find a thing. Could you be a teensy bit mre specific?
Thanks

Wendy said...

Devan, I think you are right. Kate's personality is part of the show's draw. The Duggars aren't near as interesting because there's no conflict that make it any more fascinating to watch than the average person's home movies. That's is why they bring the cousin on to demonstrate how different they are.

TLC is waiting to see if this new mother of 14 is TV friendly. Which means will she draw in viewers? The way J&K behave is one of their biggest draws.

cmgardner said...

Does anyone know if TLC paid for KON's new house or if they paid for it themselves, not that they wouldnt have the money to do so. What a house!!

jenthabadfish said...

“I know I'll be able to afford them when I'm done with my schooling." Is octo-mom serious? She plans to finish her master's degree with 14 children? I had a hard enough getting a B.S. with one child. How will she support her children while she's in school? How will she get any studying done with all those kids? Good for her if she is able to do it.
Yes, she does seem pretty marketable. She is already showing a since of entitlement. She "deserves"" all these kids to fill the void in her life. She looks a little Angelie Jolie-ish. Her kids are probably gorgeous. I am sure she will get her own circus act (er reality TV show).

cheryl said...

Looks like TLC is testing the waters. Perhaps the g's are over the top monetary with TLC and now can get another series at half price.
Thanks for the light bulb blip!!!

Old North State said...

Hilarious, ThreeFarmers!

skywatcher said...

Sharla,

Is there any update on the reporter doing a true story on KON?

4thekids said...

I thought some of you might be interested to know that the Hayes family, who were featured in the TLC special "Twins, Twins, and Sextuplets," are about to get their own show called "Twelve at the Table."

Shame. I really liked that family, but I'm curious to see if we are going to have a downward spiral with them like we did with the Gosselins.

Anyway, this media obsession with HOMs has got to stop, or we're going to have more Nadya Suleman's running around wanting tons of babies and the monetary offers that come with them.

Mommy in PA said...

Hey I know this is a pretty random thought and going back a little....

Has anyone seen the episode when all the kids had the little backpacks with their names on them - Kate put masking tape or something over all the names so that strangers wouldn't be able to just call out the kids' names - an apparent "safety concern" about getting separated from the kids.

So really, I'd like to know what was the real point behind that. After all, the kids are being exposed to strangers everyday. People recognize them everywhere they go. Everyone already KNOWS their names. Really, if a stranger wanted to get the attention of any of their kids, they already know their names, a little personalized backpack really isn't revealing anything at this point. If they are that concerned about strangers knowing their names, what are they doing on tv?

bertie22 said...

I just have to admit to my train of thought right now, it's making me feel guilty and I need to be absolved.
I just watched the video clip of Nadya Suleman, and I have to say that I wasn't prepared to like her so much. I thought she'd be a quiverfull, a lunatic or at least have hair I could make fun of (*cough*Kate*cough*), but she came across as well-spoken, grounded and to be honest, a better mother to her 14 kids than Kate is to her 8. I don't agree with the situation AT ALL, but I feel as though her PR (that's Public Relations, guys.) agents are probably pretty pleased with themselves right now. The girl is a natural beauty, and we all know that's the first ticket to a sheeple's heart. They love pretty, shiny things. And she actually confronts her worst criticism and has intelligent arguments to back it up. Even if it's all BS and PR coaching, she does BS waaaaay better than Kate. IMO- Kate is probably doing double doses of her meds after the emotional roller coaster with the octuplets.
First she was pleased that she would be able to give her "advice" to a new mom with with octuplets. Then it turned to "OH, Crap" when told the woman had 14 kids. Then to smug satisfaction when the press tore her apart. Now that the mother looks 10x better than Kate did after giving birth and actually comes across well on television, she's probably losing her mind. To be a fly on that wall....

Does anyone else agree after seeing the video? Not condoning the act or any subsequent exploitation, but I'm not as outraged as I once was.

reenie0912 said...

Does anyone else notice that J&K never take a break from filming between "seasons"? I noticed that the Roloffs take 2-3 months between seasons, where they run re-runs. J&K had 2 weeks of re-runs during the holidays, then they were back with all new episodes. And l doubt if they can get all that footage when they film only "2-3 days a week", as Kate has said.

Its A Good Thing said...

I don't understand why everybody is so fixated on HOM, I mean they considered a fertility nightmare in the medical world. They are very high risk to not only the mother but the babies, its extremely rare to have all healthy children when having HOM and I just don't think its right to take that risk. I understand that mothers have the right to decide what is best for them but when doctors are going to go above nature and what is meant to be they have to take some responsibility. Because regardless of how much money a HOM family has it is a drain on society and on their community. There was something like 50 doctors at Kate's delivery right? If I was delivering at that hospital then I would have been dang mad. Or if my child was in the NICU fighting for its life and she had 6 in there? Its not right. Or what about the family that actually needed the home nurse because their baby was really sick and Kate had her, for free mind you, because she feels like she can't take care of her 8 healthy children? Jon and Kate knew exactly what they were doing when they went ahead with fertility treatments. They new they didn't have the money for the family they already had. They relied on handouts from the very start of the pregnancy. Oh but don't forget "who is she to say no?" Well you say no, because there are families who really could use the support and items you received because you and your husband weren't happy with the children you had! Oh and what about Mady and Cara? They must think that the whole reason their mother wanted "just one baby" was because they weren't enough. And what about the tups when they are old enough to realize that their mother really only wanted one of them? And she has said this numerous times, both on camera and interviews so they will find out.

Jon and Kate are awful parents and its sickening that society loves them. Its sickening that society wants to donate to them when there are real families in need. TLC is a disgrace.




Thanks for letting me rant, I feel so much better.

cheryl said...

I'm another one - how do we bring up Craig's list??
With the dirty kitchen bit - I expect kon has exhausted any possibilies of reemplyment in the reading hospital.

J. Killebrew said...

Three Farmer's, you're too funny!

Here's my random thoughts...

I just watched the interview with Octo-Mom, and please note- I'm not name calling here, but the IDEA of being able care 100% for 14 kids is well, CRAZIER THAN A SHITHOUSE RAT.

I am a divorced Mom of three yr. old twin sons, and it's hard for me, I can't even wrap my mind around 14.

Someone mentioned TLC sending a cleaning crew and intentionally left the kitchen dirty for drama. Could be. Most Housekeepers charge pretty well for doing the extras, (I'm a housekeeper,) and I don't think anyone could have cleaned that fridge to Katie's specs.

I know I would have either, A.) Laughed in her face had she insisted that I use a toothpick and Q-tip, B.) Walked out, or C.) Said, Sure, but you'll be paying my hourly rate- $20 an hour. Rather, TLC will!

Back to Octo-Mom, I do hope, for the kids sake, all 14 of them, that her Church, friends, and strangers help out.

Her Mom seems to want to check out asap, so that begs the question- How wil she care for the previous litter, and still manage to spend 45 minutes per baby with the new litter?

And her house! Where will she put the new babies? Velcro their bassinets to the wall?

happywithjusttwo said...

We all know that Kate has many phobias...one she definately doesn't have is Octophobia. The fear of the Figure Eight. Saw a list of phobias today and thought it was funny.

jenthabadfish said...

Bertie22 said...
"I thought she'd be a quiverfull, a lunatic or at least have hair I could make fun of (*cough*Kate*cough*), but she came across as well-spoken, grounded and to be honest, a better mother to her 14 kids than Kate is to her 8."
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Her statement's seemed absolutely crazy to me. I know it may seem mean-spirited to keep knocking this woman and her dreams, but she put herself in the public spotlight by the choices she made. So lets face reality here. She says she will be able to support her 14 kids once she gets her master's degree in counseling. Even if she did manage to get her degree, counselors do not make that much! From the U.S. Occupational Outlook Handbook (www.bls.gov/oco/ocos067.htm) - the median earnings for counselors is $53,750. My husband and I make a little more than that and we BARELY make it with my 1 and his 3. 53 k will probably not even cover childcare for 14 kids. Plus, she will have student loans and medical bills to pay off (assuming the government didn't pick up the tab.) I just don't see how she will be able to make it without massive amounts government assistance.

J. Killebrew said...

Happy- Bahahaha! That's good, Octophobia!

Someone mentioned Kate doubling her meds right now... probably! I just think it's because since the Octo-Mom came onto the scene, Kate is HUMILIATED at the negative coverage of the media POINTING OUT the obvious- multi's pa-pa-pa-pay. Cha-Ching!

I'm sure she's cringed everytime someone mentions her tummy tuck, Jon's hairplugs, and teeth whitening.

I bet, that if Kate could could get FIVE minutes alone with Octo-Mom, she'd go off on a rant that would make Christian Bale's look like Mr. Rodgers dropping a sneaker!

Tess H. said...

I was just wondering about the people that like/love Kate. For those that have sons, would they like/love having someone like Kate as a daughter-in-law knowing how she would treat their son, them (the mother-in-law and father-in-law) and any future grandchildren?

And for those that think selling the kids privacy for the world to see/critique/obsess over is not a problem, would they want that for their kids or grandkids?

I know I've read that a lot of people say there is nothing wrong with them (the Gosselins) or their airing their lives and that they are doing no harm, but I really believe that there are probably one a very few that could honestly answer yes to the 2 questions above.

marypoppins said...

Mommy in PA said...
Hey I know this is a pretty random thought and going back a little....

Has anyone seen the episode when all the kids had the little backpacks with their names on them - Kate put masking tape or something over all the names so that strangers wouldn't be able to just call out the kids' names - an apparent "safety concern" about getting separated from the kids.

So really, I'd like to know what was the real point behind that. After all, the kids are being exposed to strangers everyday. People recognize them everywhere they go. Everyone already KNOWS their names. Really, if a stranger wanted to get the attention of any of their kids, they already know their names, a little personalized backpack really isn't revealing anything at this point. If they are that concerned about strangers knowing their names, what are they doing on tv?
____________________________

I remember this. I though it was VERY POINTLESS.

It was probaly some tpye of marketing ploy. maybe they were testing her as a child safety spokesperson

A stranger could come up to them lost in a crowd, oh hi im the new production person, Jen and Scott took everyone to get footage at the.....

jenthabadfish said...

too much coffee = bad grammar! Sorry, I meant "sense of entitlement" and statements not statement's. I am sure there are other errors, but oh well. :)

BoyMomInTX said...

Tess H-

Great point and something I've thought of as well. I have 5 sons and I couldn't bear to see them treated like Kate treats Jon! It would be absolutely more than I could bear! The insults, the better-than-you, smarter-than-you attitude, the slapping, the belittling and demeaning, and that's all before millions of people! God, it would be so heartbreaking to be Jon's mother! :(

Its A Good Thing said...

Elsa: Sorry but I can't seem to get the links to work. I copy and pasted into search but it just didn't work. Perhaps Im doing it wrong...

Bicoastal said...

Devan wrote:" TLC knows exactly what they have in Kate and they are using it to their full advantage."

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Do they ever. And so does Kate. Hence the staged situations e.g. the surly twins play "Mommy," Kate cleans the fridge, Jane cooks Korean, KON buys beds (the impacted stool was an unexpected filming bonus; thanks, kid!), the sad-in-so-many-ways wedding, etc.

I just saw KON's new rival- Ms. Suleman - on the Today show. She seems to have an Angelina Jolie look going on (hard to tell if her lips are real without an old photo to compare).

If Suleman starts opining on UN relief efforts in war-torn countries while pimping her babies for a TLC reality gig, we've met the KON hybrid-from- hell.

BoyMomInTX said...

I agree, I did NOT expect to like the Octuplet mom, but of course watched the interview. I question the Botox'd lips and fake nails, but hey, maybe they came along before the babies? I don't care.

What bugs me is that companies like P & G and other brands with baby stuff are staying away from her because of bad press. Yet, they continue to employ Kate Gosselin, who, if she didn't start this whole thing, then she certainly is the poster-child for the glitz of the life of HOM! Why give someone so undeserving and unappreciative, more time, money and resources than this woman? Is she more unlikable just because she's single? Because honestly, I really prefer just 1 crazy mom to a crazy mom (kate) and bullied father/husband (jon).
And no, maybe this new mom doesn't deserve money, but those babies do deserve diapers and formula. So don't send her cash people, but I do wish that the companies would send the basic needs for the babies.

BoyMomInTX said...

Sorry for all the exclamation points!!! I swear I'm not taking a page from Kate's book-I just got emotional there for a sec. :)

fxfanatic said...

Every time somebody explains what "PR" means, I laugh a little inside.

fxfanatic said...

Oh and what about Mady and Cara? They must think that the whole reason their mother wanted "just one baby" was because they weren't enough. And what about the tups when they are old enough to realize that their mother really only wanted one of them? And she has said this numerous times, both on camera and interviews so they will find out.

I agree 100%. What gets me is that the defenders criticize some of us for what we write about J&K (because it might harm the kids) but they don't realize that Kon is harming the kids with THEIR words and actions more than strangers in blogland.

Elsa said...

It's a Good Thing, the links seem to be working for me. Try googling "Reading PA Craigslist", go to the "rants and raves" section, and google "Jon & Kate".

aimee said...

To those of you who are going to write letters to sponsors...

Might I make a suggestion?

Please WRITE LETTERS. Real pen-to-paper letters. In other words, please don't EMAIL your concerns to the sponsors if you can take the time to compose a letter. Companies tend to place more weight on letters than they do on emails.

Which makes sense. You can sit at your computer and pound out several emails in a matter of minutes. I'm not going to say it doesn't take ANY effort, but it certainly takes more effort to pen a letter, put it in an envelope, attach a stamp and take it to a mailbox.

I'm not saying this is the case but perhaps P&G, in saying they only received something like a dozen complaints, actually measured the number of letters they received - not emails.

If you have email addresses for sponsors, contact them to get a real address. If you have an 800 number for the company, contact them and ask who the letter should be addressed to and what address to send it to.

Just a suggestion :)

Tangerine Tanya said...

Kate's face looks as if she applied a egg white facial to her face and forgot to rinse it off.

anne123 said...

I got the links from Elsa to work but if you can't.....
www.craigslist.com, go to the Pennsylvania location and then go to Lancaster. Type in Jon and Kate at the top and it should bring all the posts on them up for you.

J. Killebrew said...

I'm pretty sure Octo-Mom got some work, at the insistance of her PR people. After all, she needs to be presented in the 'best light' to sell herself to the public. That's probably what she was having done in her hide-away hotel room yesterday.

Yes, I do also hope that the babies receive what they need, and she receives no cash. No TLC from TLC.

Again, I think the whole idea of her finishing her Masters while raising these kids is batshit crazy.

As I stated, I am a single Mom to 3 yr. old twins. It's a battle, and an exausting one at that, to just get everything done for two. Up, fed, dressed, myself the same, them loaded up and off to daycare, and myself off to work. Then, come home, and start all over again. Not to mention, it's expensive. Very.

And when will we ever hear from this Dr.? What's going on there? Did he get the hell out of Dodge, and is now in South America, or what?

Megan said...

A bit of randomness:

Ok, so I used to watch the show every Monday and I liked it but then everything started to change. Granted, I think it was always there it just took me longer than others to notice. So here I am now, absolutely disgusted with this show and going on a few months without turning it on, but I’ve been wondering, why is it that there are people out there that constantly stick up for this family and excuse all of their behavior as either A) not wrong, or B) we’re all just jealous. Maybe we’re all wrong and there really is nothing wrong with this family, but I don’t believe that’s the case.

So here is what I am thinking, it seems as if these pro-Gosselin people have stopped thinking of this show as reality and think of the show as being a half hour/hour scripted sitcom with casted characters. Kate is playing the mom that the audience loves to hate (although for me I take out the love part and just hate) while Jon is playing the bumbling father that answers to every whim of his wife. Then we have the kids who each represent a “stereotypical” trait of a show. There’s Mady chosen to play the role of the rebellious child who speaks before she thinks, Cara the quiet one, Hannah the favorite, and so on and so on. Even their parents have given their children specific roles they seem to play.

It seems to me that the reason the Pro-Gossels think the world of Kate is a good one is because it is just a TV show. They are deluded. It’s like they have forgotten that this IS a real family and that their parent’s actions will impact their children’s actions. This isn’t some show where actors get to say their lines and are done for the day; this is their life and we’ve been told this numerous times.

I can watch shows like Nip/Tuck because I know it is fake, but if it were real I would think these people were crazy. I would not watch and say, “Well you know they are doctors and they do live in LA!” I’m not so sure Pro-Gossels can see the difference anymore.

When I see a parent hit their child or scold them severely in a store I do not instantly think that the child deserved it. I question their actions to myself. I’m not getting involved because it is not my business but I am not going to stand around and watch either. It seems that Pro-Gossels are standing around automatically assuming the children deserve it (metaphorically speaking of course). It’s like they don’t question ANYTHING. Whatever Kate does is obviously done for a good reason.

I think that is what I like about all of us here. Of course we all look at situations differently but we question them. We question why exactly Hannah is always around Kate and being snuggled while other children aren’t. We wonder why Kate spent all of that time cleaning a fridge instead of with her family, why did the parents get hair treatments while children were sick, why are the children never playing with other children, etc. If more people questioned the actions of these parents than perhaps more answers would be given and this show would be exposed for the exploitation and harm it is producing. I just wish the people watching Jon and Kate plus 8 that love it would really watch it as a reality show with innocent children and hopefully ask, “Wait, does something seem wrong here?”

J. Killebrew said...

I have a question, maybe someone can help with this. The Dionne kids have been mentioned around here several times.

Q- Did any of the surviving girls have children of their own? If so, did they ever sucessfully sue Canada for the money from Quintland, and did it go to their surviving offspring?

Serena said...

To those of you who are going to write letters to sponsors...

Might I make a suggestion?

Please WRITE LETTERS. Real pen-to-paper letters. In other words, please don't EMAIL your concerns to the sponsors if you can take the time to compose a letter. Companies tend to place more weight on letters than they do on emails.


I couldn't agree more.

As of this morning, GWOP now has a snail mail address to facilitate the forwarding of actual paper letters to sponsors and other relevant agencies. (See our sidebar under "Contact us".)

Later today we will be publishing a list of instructions for how to use this feature.

aimee said...

I'm not saying I'd like the new HOM mom of the moment to cash in on her 14 kids in the manner of Jon and Kate...but I think KON really has something to worry about here.

I just watched the interview with the new mom and that woman is (imho) a very attractive woman who also happens to be very well spoken.

I'm not allowing my issues with J&K to interfere with my opinion of this woman, but I think it's remarkable that in her first interview, she manages to come across better than J&K ever have, or I believe ever will.

I don't necessarily believe she was smart in her reproductive choices but she sounds smart, which is more than can be said for KON...

Niks said...

In the NBC interview Nadya Suleman said:

"I'm providing myself to my children. I'm loving them unconditionally, accepting them unconditionally, everything I do. I'll stop my life for them and be present with them and hold them and be with them. And how many parents do that? I'm sure there are many that do, but many don't. And that's unfortunate. And that is selfish."

Wow. Just wow. Way to spit in the faces of parents around the world by implying that many of them don't show their children love. And this is supposed to make her more likeable? Ha.

I also liked the bit where she said she "I know I'll be able to afford them when I'm done with my schooling." Oh my god, she's right. Maybe Mastercard will give her a commercial and she can talk about how priceless it is to "someday" be able to afford the children you ALREADY have.

Nope, NBC. I still don't like her one bit. Thanks for trying.

J. Killebrew said...

What I meant to to say about Octo-Mom is that I hope she get's no TLC from TLC!

About her possible plastic surgery- Anyone else notice that her nose looked a little too perfect? Her lips a little too full? An not a wrinkle.

Since I've had my twins, I've aged in dog years. Like a President. If I had six at home, I'd look like the Crypt Keeper.

timetogokon said...

I was just wondering about the people that like/love Kate. For those that have sons, would they like/love having someone like Kate as a daughter-in-law knowing how she would treat their son, them (the mother-in-law and father-in-law) and any future grandchildren?

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The sheeple don't think there is anything wrong with how Kate treats her husband and children.

timetogkon said...

agree 100%. What gets me is that the defenders criticize some of us for what we write about J&K (because it might harm the kids) but they don't realize that Kon is harming the kids with THEIR words and actions more than strangers in blogland.

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It is baffling isn't it? There have been many sheeple comments about how shallow the non-fan comments are (Kate's hair, spray tan, etc) but they don't see that Kate HERSELF is one of the most shallow/hollow people on the planet.

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...

I read about Kate's coupon rant on Monday's episode and I've wondered this for quite some time...
Remember in an early episode where they shopped at Sam's Club? Do they even accept coupons there?
I recall seeing the Duggar's shop at Aldi's and I know that they don't, at least not where I live. Personally, I have found that purchasing generic items is often cheaper than buying name-brand with a coupon. I take my coupons along, just in case. If the name brand item is on sale and I have a coupon, then sometimes it is a better value, it just depends. So Kate ranting like a lunatic about only buying things with coupons just makes her look more asinine, as a true domestic goddess would look at all angles to save money, not just clipping coupons.

miss irene said...

I think a lot of ppl are confused about IVF vs IUI. It seems a lot of KON supporters are saying octumom had 8 (she says) embryos knowingly implanted so therefore should have been prepared for at least 8 babies. They think that Kate had a less aggressive treatment and it is a miracle that she was able to conceive 1 baby, let alone 6.

Disclaimer, I am not a dr and have never had a fertility problem. However, it is widely known that IVF is deemed more predictable than IUI because the number of embryos can be controlled. In Kate's case we all know she hyperstimuated and produced way too many follicles but went through with the cycle AMA. There was no way to know how many follicles would mature and get inseminated, then implant and become babies. She had already had success with conceiving the twins, so it should have been fairly obvious that she could conceive and then carry a healthy pregnancy.

A lot of ppl are saying Kate is different because O-mom intentionally had HOM and Kate had no way of knowing she would conceive 6. That to me is a crock because having been through fertility treatments already for the twins on top of being a nurse she should have known all the risks and how things worked. When she was hyperstimulated I'm sure they told her how many follicles there were and what the risks were when they cancelled the cycle. Of course she took matters into her own hands and now there are the tups. It's not like this was her first go round and she didn't know if the meds would work, if she would be able to conceive at all, etc. To me she went into it with her eyes wide open, just like Nadya Suleman.

Tracy said...

"How many Kate Gosselins does it take to screw in a light bulb?

One, she stands there and holds it while the whole world revolves around her.

That's if Kate ever screwed in a light bulb."

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She doesn't - she spend the time watching the "crew" do it - while making sure that they are holding the vacuum up to catch any dust that might fly around...

flgirl said...

Here is a link to all the P&G products:

http://www.proctergamble.com/common/product_sitemap.shtml

zoey said...

So, in the book, which i scanned through quickly at the library, Kate says that Aaden called Beth MOMMY.
i wonder how hurt he is that his loving "mommy" is no longer around

MichelleS said...

I have been wondering..
Im sure most of us now spend monday nights watching Jon and Kate just to see what evil Kate is going to unleash this episode.
I wonder if TLC production crew and Kate doesnt get their ideas of this blog..lol
It plays in my mind that they read this and say "Ok Kate, these are issues/faults that are being brought up so lets work on emphasizing it more in this episode"
Because i think as it has been mentioned before here, that TLC is loving the feedback that Kate is loathed so much by viewers. So they all keep making money and the show is getting uglier. Make any sense? Just a thought.

lalaland said...

Some columnist for the Washington Post wrote a glowing piece about TLC (he obviously doesn't watch).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/03/AR2009020303074.html

I scanned the 80+ comments and loved the comment by one poster who said they admired the Roloffs
"in being normal people with normal minds in little bodies, unlike the Duggars and Jon and Kate, abnormal people with normal bodies and little minds."

BoyMomInTX said...

I'm not on this octo-mom's side, but I at least admire that she has a goal outside of her own home (ie-getting a degree). Yes, it may be crazy, and will probably never happen, but at least she has a goal that includes working a normal job and earning an honest paycheck.
Now, whether any of that is true or not, it was PR genius to at least get her to say she has future plans to work.
Buh-bye, Jon and Kate! (i hope)

J. Killebrew said...

For anyone interested, EW online just did a scathing review of Octu-Mom's interview. Biting, funny, in a snickering way, and sadly, all too true.

Whatever happened to only having as many children as you could afford?

Some people out there would love to have a family, but, sadly, their pockbook dictates otherwise.

I concieved my twins at 33. Naturally. I was told by my Dr.'s that due to my age, I drop more eggs at ovulation, nature's way of getting ready to close down the factory, so to speak. Also, that I have fraternal twins in my family- there is a genetic link to that, carried through the maternal side of the family. So, both of those factors togather, I had 2. I was also told that since I had sucessfully had one set, there would be a major chance of it happening again if I got pregnant. (makes you want to keep a fire extinguisher by the bed to make sure it dosen't!)

Like Kate, I (had moments, only)where I really did want just one more. Just so I could really have the one on one that comes with just having, well, one. That was a fantasy, because the reality of my stress level, time, and finances dictated otherwise. Not to mention, the fact that it would more than likely be twins again!

I just don't know how this Octu-Mom expects to do it all. I remember those early days- I was fat and frightened, exausted, and felt guilty when others helped me, because I couldn't do it all on my own.

In a way, I do feel for her, because of that. I feel she used very poor judgement and might very well have some psyche issues, ones that might be compounded, once the glare of the media spotlight dims and it's just her and the kids.

Sad.

GrammyPie said...

To find info on the Dionne quints, just google them.

Sharla said...

We've had no recent word from the reporter, but the next issue should be coming out soon.

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...

Okay, I just took a moment to watch a few minutes of the interview that Jon did in Utah.
First of all, his inability to keep eye contact is annoying. It makes me think he's lying.
Also just the couple of minutes I watched reaffirmed my belief that he is a total dimwit slacker.
His comment about being so poor and having to keep the house at 68 degrees??? "It gets cold in PA, we had to bundle everyone up" HELLOOOO!
I live in Wisconsin...it's gets cold here, REALLY COLD. We keep ours set at 67 for daytime and 60 for overnight...BOOHOO Jon, you never have and never will get any sympathy from me.

HappyMommy&Wife said...

I called P&G headquarters today and requested contact information since it is not listed on the P&G website. I specifically told the gentleman I spoke to that I wanted to write a letter expressing that I am boycotting all P&G products. I asked who I would address the letter to...his reply was "no one". Then I asked if how I will know it was actually read if I do not have a contact name or department to send the letter. He replied "because it is mail, it will get opened".

I decided I will send an email AND write a letter to the top guy at P&G...the CEO! I am going to specifically state why I am boycotting their products and list all the products I have discarded and will no longer purchase from P&G (22 at last count). I have seen first hand how corporate boycotts work to "redirect" the company policy when profits are down. Money talks... especially in these tough economic times.

Alan G. Lafley
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer
1 Proctor & Gamble Plaza
Cincinnati, OH 45202

Phone: 513-983-1100

I love my son! said...

Well HELLO everyone!! I hope you are having a great Friday.

I just wanted to let you know that while I was on my way to volunteer at my son's school, I was listening to a radio talk show. I'll bet you will never guess what the topic of the day was!

They were speaking none other then our very own celebrity parents; Jon and Kate (see bottom of blog regarding the celebrity comment)! The conversation started when they were discussing the octuplets mom, when an irrate caller began to berate J&K for having a chef, nannies and a large house while they are unemployed!

What makes this even better is that the host almost choked when he heard of all the free things they are receiving because of their kids. Now this isn't a little radio station. It's pretty well known here in Florida.
So, the word is spreading faster then Jon's hair plugs! But like a previous poster wrote it seems like Jon and Kate are convered in Teflon because nothing ever sticks to them.

Also, everyone make sure to check your papers because, yesterday, I received my P&G brandSaver coupons in my newspaper and inside are some wonderful tips from Jon and Kate. Like how to teach your children not to waste paper towels and toilet paper.

HMMM, how strange, because I recall Jon saying the boys held their roll of toilet paper over the toilet and just let it unroll while they were flushing, and didn't Kate take a lot of paper towels just to clean up some liquid on the old kitchen floor.
I guess these tips only apply for us for commoners.

Oh, and I almost forgot, guess who came in number 7 for famous celebrity mothers of mutiples? Kate. I couldn't believe my frigging eyes when I saw Jon and Kate's picture posted on the list!

Anyway here's the info; http://multiples.about.com/od/celebrities/tp/famoustwinmom.htm

Sick of Kate said...

I'll say this about Jon's mother. If my son married a woman who treated him the way Katie Irene treats her son I would be all over it. I would not care if she or HE told me to mind my own business. How dare she talk to my son that way? Who in this universe told her she was in charge of anyone? She thinks she is a tough cookie, OMG, she is nothing but a bully and she would not bully me.

If we switch the positions and have this outrageous character be Jon who is bullying, bad-mouthing, hitting and in all ways abusing his mealy-mouthed little wife, we would be all over it! TLC would have picketers outside whatever offices it has, Figure 8 would have NOW at its front doors banging to get in with cameras running.

I'm sick of this. I would never watch this show and I feel so badly for Jon and the children. Do you think he is, and I don't mean this in an ignorant way, but could he be slightly masochistic?

J. Killebrew said...

I just watched the Utah interview with Jon. Oh Jonny boy. Where to start? It was more 'real' than the show. He never maintained eye contact, and looked like a fifteen yr. old taking a break from the slopes.

New info? They have a nanny, now! He would like for him and Cara to have a place just for them to ski in Utah! They now have 2 dogs! They won't let their kids do interviews, where they can't 'control' it! (he said it, folks. Yep, he went there.) He dosen't feel emasculated any longer about being a SAHD, 'cause Kate 'works' in NY, and is starting her 3rd book next week! Yippee! And she's relaxed!

Y'know, I think, no, I know, I need a break from the internet.

Between Octu-Mom and J&K, it's just depressing to me.

Cindermommy said...

This is all I saw on craigslist that wasn't the usual arguments:
(from lancaster craigslist - rants and raves)
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They used to be our neighbors! Jon was always such a nice person and we could never understand what he saw in his wife. He came from such a wonderful
family.
On the other hand, Kate was such a miserable individual and, although we did not think it possible, became worse after the birth of the children. She was so mean and uncaring. I don't know of anyone in our neighborhood who misses her. Jon and the kids are great!.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Oh Tracy,

I hated that episode when she had the crew stand there with a vacumn to catch all the wood dust. I just wanted to smack her as she stood there chomping her gum like a cow. I also wanted to yell "WE DONT CHOMP OUR GUM @ AGE 33"

irateb/cofkate said...

Thanks for posting that link about "celeb moms".

Pretty sad that Laura Bush is lower on the list than Kate. Despite anyone's political views, you have to admit a first lady should be higher up than a first b!tch.

If I stop using P&G products, I will need new detergent, perfume, toilet paper, toothpaste, tampons, and dish soap. Damn you, Kate!!!!

skywatcher said...

**hanging head down** I too thought the oct. mom was well spoken. I guess I was expecting some low class KON moving in. But,maybe it is because she is educated (esp if she is in the middle of a masters?) That is four more years of college than KON. Don't blast me, because I too sit and wonder what dr would allow someone to do this w/o any way to support these children.

Did she even hear the comments her mother has made recently about being tired of taking care of her six children? Why didn't her mother say, after the first six, "Do that again and your out?" Her mom must be a saint if she is letting them all move in with her....man, I get a headache just thinking about it....sigh

Tangerine Tanya said...

Sick of Kate,

In the Utah interview Jon stated that his mother texted him @ least 4-5 times a day. I am not sure if I really beieve that.

My girlfriend who is Caucasian is married to a Korean man and his folks had a hard time accepting a Non-Asian into their family. I just find it hard that any mother would approve the was that her son gets treated in such a HORRIBLE way.

konspiracytheory said...

Sharla said:

We've had no recent word from the reporter, but the next issue should be coming out soon.
----------------------------------
Hi Sharla,

Did you reveal the name of the magazine doing the story on KON? Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss it. I hope it's Rolling Stone mag - they've done some great in-depth pieces over the years.

Lots of Luck said...

Thanks for bringing back the recent comment section!!!

I am so looking forward to the letter writing campaign coming soon
to GWOP...Everyone sharpen your pencils-let's plan to hit the media hard!!!
More info. on this topic coming soon from our awesome moderators...

KatesNoMom said...

Day late and a dollar short as usual here, but.. lol

I just got to my January issue of Ladies Home Journal and almost choked. "Less Stress in 2009- 7 Experts Share their own New Year's resolutions" and Kate was included as an "EXPERT"?!?!?!

Reading that article and her idiotic comments added to MY "stress level" @@

A Teacher in Canada said...

I really don't get the obsession with multiples. It's risky to the mother (and incredibly selfish if there are older children involved who may have to grow up without their mother because she "wanted just one more") and obviously risky to the premature babies they produce. I don't get why man-made multiples are newsworthy either. If I saw someone out in a mall with 6 or 8 identical children, I'd think that that was fascinating - a medical marvel really, or perhaps I'd fear someone had starting cloning human embryos!
Anyways, you should only have the number of children you are capable of raising financially, emotionally, morally, etc. You can love children all you want, but if you can't provide, then you have no right to them. It's child abuse to deny them basic necessities, access to education, health care, and proper supervision.
I'm a teacher, and with declining enrollment in English-language public schools, I don't know if I have a job from one year to the next. I spend 6-8 hours a day in loco parentis to other people's children and see the effects of parenting gone wrong all too often. A lot of the money I've made has gone back into my classroom - to feed, motivate, educate, clothe, etc and back into my own education as teacher training is never-ending (honestly, you don't really get the summers off!). I know that my job will require putting my students before any children I may have of my own. I never thought I'd have to choose between having a career or having a family and it's tough, I get it. But if I can't dedicate time to my own child to ensure that they grow up to the best they can be, then I'd be better off getting a gold fish. And that realisation makes me sad, of course. I've wanted children my whole life, but I also know what life I want for my children.
Finally to Kate, Octomom and any other imitators, I would say: Children are not fashion accessories! Nor are they something to have to fill a void in your life, repair a marriage, live vicariously through, or sell out to the highest bidder. It's bad enough that celebrities glamourise pregnancy and sell first photos to the press, we don't need anymore supermoms of superHOMs telling us how to parent!

Oh yes, and boycott P&G! I'm already cleaning out my cupboards.

Anonymomma said...

If it weren't for the fact that instead of being with any of her 14 children, she chose to be with Ann Curry and do an interview, I would be inclined to feel a pinch of sympathy for OctoMom. Yet this self-proclaimed loving mother sat perched on a chair trying to defend her actions while displaying perfectly manicured nails (where was the time for that?) among other aspects. I don't mean to bash her because I know what it's like to be on bedrest for weeks on end, but how could your image, in every sense of the word, come before seeing your kids who's company you've been without for approximately 2 months? There is just so much wrong with her situation I don't even know where to begin. If I were her PR (That's public relation's) person, I would have told her to be a bit more disheveled, or maybe at least take a phone call from one of the older kids in the midst of the interview? I dunno, something at least to show she cares about them more than her public image.

Also, Sick of Kate, I couldn't agree with you more!!! I have 3 boys and I can promise you, if they ever bring home a pityful excuse for a wife a'la Gosselin, the term 'monster in law' won't even begin to touch it! I can't understand why Jon's family is not speaking out in his defense, because if it were my son I would be on the phone with Barbara Walters faster than Kate could run for that ATM.

Wynema said...

Kate is not any expert by any mean. She is still in the experimental stages. Now a mom who has had more then one child and those children are grown is a mom with experience. (Shaking my head)

BoyMomInTX said...

Please don't feel sorry for Jon. He has found someone else that will work so he doesn't have to. It was his dad, now Kate. No matter what she does, he'd be behind her so he didn't have to go to a real job. Pathetic.

fxfanatic said...

Sharla, can you tell us what publication it is yet?

Had Enough of the Ruination of America said...

Thanks, Octuplet Mom....now I know that my taxes from my part-time night-shift job are going to such a good cause......a greedy woman with an "obsession" with children.

I want to throw up.

What ever happened to personal responsibility. Oh, now I remember..to quote Kate Gosselin, it's "society's responsible because they allow the use of fertility intervention".

I love my son! said...

Tangerine Tanya said...
Sick of Kate,

In the Utah interview Jon stated that his mother texted him @ least 4-5 times a day. I am not sure if I really beieve that.

My girlfriend who is Caucasian is married to a Korean man and his folks had a hard time accepting a Non-Asian into their family. I just find it hard that any mother would approve the was that her son gets treated in such a HORRIBLE way.

***********************************

Well we know Jon's dad was Caucasian (French), so I'm willing to bet it's because Kate treats Jon inferior to her. I think it's even more apparent now then before.

I've noticed Kate watching Jon as he speaks during the couch interviews, almost like a cat waiting to pounce on it's prey. It's like she is examining him and his every word with disgust. It's as if she thinks Jon is inferior to her.

I bet no one comes forward from their families, because of the contact they have with Jon isn't worth the risk of pissing her off even further.

Sharla said...

I'm sorry but we've been asked to wait to say any more until the publication is actually out. We'll let you know as soon as we can.

konspiracytheory said...

Thanks Sharla!

kathy said...

Octomom's doctors are under investigation. yay!! Now what would it take for the same thing to happen to Kate Gosselin's doctor????

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_re_us/octuplets

ShisoandRice said...

So the news tonight says that Suleman will need 1.3 million to raise her 8 octs til they are 18...

So, 1.3 million divided by 18 is $72K a yr.

So the 1.3 million the Gosselins paid for the new house. could have raised their kids for 18 yrs.

Ill bet that 72K was even LESS with all the freebies J&K got for the kids.

elizabeth said...

I believe the octo-mom (as she is now being referred to as) is probably very unstable and I could go on and on about what I think of her, but I also have to wonder at the ethics of her fertility doctor. First of all, how could a single mother with 6 kids afford fertility treatments? Second, what doctor could ethically justify treating a woman who already had 6 kids?

Tangerine Tanya said...

I love my son!

You are so right. I had forgotton tht Jon's dad was (Caucasian)French.
The comment you made about Kate looking like a cat waiting to pounce on her prey cracked me up. Come to think of it....That is exactly how she looks on the confessional couch.

BAC said...

I love my son! said...

Tangerine Tanya said...
Sick of Kate,

In the Utah interview Jon stated that his mother texted him @ least 4-5 times a day. I am not sure if I really beieve that.

Yeah and he said that Bob Carson had just texted him too and I don't know if I believe that either.

HiThere said...

John's father was an American, of French/Welsh descent.

I am getting tired of Jon saying he is Korean. He is an American, of Korean-French-Welsh descent.

I love my son! said...

BAC said...
I love my son! said...

Tangerine Tanya said...
Sick of Kate,

In the Utah interview Jon stated that his mother texted him @ least 4-5 times a day. I am not sure if I really beieve that.

Yeah and he said that Bob Carson had just texted him too and I don't know if I believe that either.

***********************************

Bob's texting Jon to find out where Beth's money is for writing their book!

Jon is an American mutt just like the majority of us. I just have this sick feeling that they are hoping for a free trip to Korea and France to see where Jon's family heritage stems from.

I love my son! said...

Oh my goodness! I just watched the Octuplet's baby mama interview and can I just say that damn she looks like she has had some drastic plastic done. It's as if she is trying to look like Angelina Jolie. Those lips are not real. She is trying to look like Angelina and get the free crap that Kate does! Sick, Sick, Sick.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Jon's ethnicity:

Didn't Jon also refere to his dad as a regular upper Philadelphia white dude?

Oh if J/K got to go to Korea to research (yeah right) his background I just wouldn't know what to think.

Tangerine Tanya said...

I love my son......That is what I thought....AGREE

MattD1972 said...

I love my son! said...

I've noticed Kate watching Jon as he speaks during the couch interviews, almost like a cat waiting to pounce on it's prey. It's like she is examining him and his every word with disgust. It's as if she thinks Jon is inferior to her.


I burst out laughing this week at the start of the episode, when it looked like Kate was actively trying to get as far away from Jon as possible. The body language was both hilarious to watch and horrifying as a testament to their relationship.

wintergal said...

I have some very random thoughts here:
Why does Hannah get her own room?? I thought that was going the the disturber. Apparently not. And if Hannah has migraines, just because she's by herself doesn't mean they'll stop, The Tiny Controller (AKA Leah) doesn't seem to be that disturbing to the other kids. And if Hannah and Leah are "really close" than why are you splitting them up? And if Alexis really is a disturber than Keight obviously doesn't care for Leah. Ugh!!

Also, I was flipping through TV channels and saw that an old episode of Jon and Kate was on. I watched the opener, which caught me by surprise, Jon was working.
Then I watched the first 10 min. and it was the one where Keight teaches everybody how to shop. I realized then how back in 2006 they really were struggling. She was really shocked to see that their bill was $200. Now, Jon can go get showerheads, no problem. What bugs me the most about this is how innocent this show really was when it started. Even though in times of stress KON would bicker, they would always reconcile and more often than not they were getting along. Maybe this was because "memories" hadn't started yet and we were all fixated with watching them do everyday things. Now we are watchign them go on multiple vacations, more than most people can afford right now. One would think that the kids life is better now. But it sucks. KON seem oblivious to the fact that as their show becames more popular, their kids are becoming just plain meaner. When Mady was kicking Alexis, sure I felt horrible for Alexis but also bad for Mady. Everybody makes mistakes, or does things they regret. At 8, Mady makes lots of mistakes, and does many things that late on she will regret. Except now the entire world gets to watch her wrong-doings and mistakes. And if everybody is talking about it and kids at school are teasing her, how can she learn?? How will any of those kids ever be able to learn anything??

Thanks for letting me go off on a rant. There's just something about this entire Keight franchise that I really beleive is wrong.

I love my son! said...

MattD1972 said...

That body language is a major role reversal. Kate is now the dominate one, not that Jon ever was. Maybe Kate's a secret tucker and has been using Jon's balls all this time for herself? That would certainly explain her haircut and body language!!

Tangerine Tanya said...

No, I'm just assuming a Korea trip is in the future. God know's they can't go to where Kate is from 'cause the camera would melt in hell!

emmy said...

MUST WATCH THE SOUP ON E!
HILLLAAAARRRIIIIOOOOUUUUSSSSS!!

Joel McHale is my hero for so many things...but 2/6 shows him in fine form when he discusses the Gosselins!!!

VB Mom of 2 Boys said...

Coupon Kate just made The Soup's Clip of the Week. I just love when they make fun of the show.

Exhausted said...

Kate made "The Soup" again! Joel McHale showed the clip of her raging about the coupon. Little by little, the world is coming to see what a horrible fishwife she is. Ain't cute anymore, Katie! (Actually, it never was.)

Betsy in PA said...

Just watched this week's episode of "The Soup" on E. Their Clip of the Week was from this week's "moving in to the mansion" show. They chose 2 clips - the one where Katie I. is on the couch being interviewed, telling how she so loved standing at the front door "telling men what to do", and Jon's totally annoyed reaction; plus the "coupongate" clip. They added a segment showing Jon loading a pistol while Katie I. is ranting and raging, looking through the kitchen drawers and running around the house looking for the receipt. It was classic. Obviously, she is coming off BADLY to more and more people every week.

Marissa said...

I saw Kate being made fun of on The Soup again tonight. She fits right in with all of the other ridiculous people featured on the show. All I could think is that Kate is just like any other publicity seeking, do anything to keep the attention coming, reality tv personality. This is the woman that people want representing their brands, speaking at their churches...really? Does she not realize or care what a joke she has turned into?

MayDay said...

Question- Why are we calling them Keight now instead of Kon?

Myboyismyworld said...

I watched some old episodes today on TLC and I saw a toatlly different Kate. I actually liked her! She has changed sooooo much though. Her and Jon used to laugh. Hard to believe now! It seems all Kate does now is either make smart a@@ remarks or put down Jon an her kids. She seems to always be gone on these speaking engagements and looking at her dates that she is gone it looks as if she goes days without seeing her precious children. I myself would miss my lil boy way too much to leave him. I just can't figure out what is going through her mind these days. Yes Jon seems to be a good daddy but her kids need their mommy too. Poor Mady seems to be effected the most or at least she shows it the most with her behavior. I think Mady would be a great kid if she just had some time with her mommy. I saw the episode where Mady got her day out with just her parents and she was so excited and well behaved with them. I feel for all of these children. I hope and pray that one day Kate will wake up and realize that her children would rather have mommy home rather than her gone all the time. A home is not a home if mommy is never there. Kids grow up so fast and she needs to realize this. I am no where near being rich but we have a nice home, nice car, my hubby works and I have the best job in the world b/c I am a sahm. I spend everyday with my son and I don't care that I can't go shopping all the time or get my nails done or whatever it is that Kate does w/ her spare time. I feel I traded all that for time with my son and that when I am 40 I will look back and know that I was a great mommy and I did the best I could do. I will have wonderful memories of taking him to the park, playing playdough or just reading him a book and those are the things that I will forever cherish in my heart. I now have tears in my eyes but there tears of happiness.

The Angry Shrew said...

Greetings to all the wonderful folks at Gosselins Without Pity. I hate to bring any negativity to this blog, but I come bearing a complaint. You see, I am deeply, deeply hurt at some of the posters and commenters comparing the horrid Kate...to me and my cousins!

"Kate is a shrew," they say. A shrew! I take offense. We shrews are small, cute creatures who innocently live off the land without hurting anyone (except maybe a grasshopper or two...mmmm, delicious!) We are nothing like that awful woman and her spineless husband.

Heck, I can have ten litters in a year, and I have not exploited a single one of my young! I would never sell them for personal gain.

Multiple births? We shrews have 6 or more kids at a time without blinking. Furthermore, we do all-natural birthing and don't spend money on fancy-shmancy nurses and home care. Last year I had a litter of 7, and did you hear me bragging and writing books and buying some fancy underground cave? No! I still live in my humble burrow, unknown by name outside the area.

Our mates live with us through the breeding season, and we females do not hit and yell at the males. I do not waste my time whining about the little details with the males I bring home for the season! We spend our time eating and mating and sleeping like a healthy couple.

So the next time you start to type "Kate is a shrew"...please remember, we shrews have feelings too!

Sincerely,
B. Carolinensis,
Shrews Against Jon and Kate

Pamela said...

You're still around! Delightful.

ThingsThat Make You Go Hmmm said...

I found an interesting post made by Jon in 2005 on a forum for multiples. It was in response to a topic about An Extreme Makeover Home Edition episode. Apparently the makeover was for a family with sextuplets.

"Don't get me wrong. I loved the house. But as a father of 8 kids
4 year old twins GG and 10 month old sextuplets BBB GGG it is a big change in the monthly bills from 2000 sq. ft to 5200 sq.ft. I wonder what the utilities are a month. Here they went from mortgage free (community donated $ to pay off mortgage) to a reaccessment of $2 million house. Maybe 5200 sq. ft is too much. If it were me I would be worried about paying my new bills. Also we were on a tv show that supposedly donated all the building materials then why did I get a 1099-misc income form for $59000 from NBC. Interesting? I pray and hope ABC doesn't do the samething to the Harrises. Otherwise I am happy for them. I know how much work it is and I know what it is like to lose your income. After we found our we were having six kids my employer told me that he couldn't afford our insurance and he fired me. I tried to fight in court but in PA "fire at will" is legal. So I was unemployed for 8 months. You might ask "I thought insurance isn't based upon qunatity of kids?" It depends on the policy. But employers might think of down the road problems. These kids could all be high risk. So all in all CONGRADULATIONS HARRIS FAMILY!!!!!!! Just be careful. Take it day by day or moment by moment. GOD will take care of you!!!


Daddyof8
Jonathan Gosselin"

Maggie said...

MayDay, as for the origin of the term Keight, please read the latest recap, all will be explained!

ThingsThat Make You Go Hmmm said...

And more from Jon Gosselin in 2005...

"


The only way it really works is if the labor and material are donated to you by a nonprofit company. (ie. church, firecompany, anyone with a tax id #) Then anyone who donates can write off the donation. I am not an accountant but trust me this is something I have learned in the last year. Normal people are not accustomed to instant fame and fortune. Yes it is nice to be in the spotlight for alittle while, but let me tell you something if you want privacy ever again FORGET IT!!!! Everyone knows where you live and that scares me.

Daddyof8
TWIN GIRLS 10/08/2000
SEXTUPLETS BBB GGG 05/10/2004
www.sixgosselins.com "

Jen K said...

If it were me I would be worried about paying my new bills.

and....

I know how much work it is and I know what it is like to lose your income. After we found our we were having six kids my employer told me that he couldn't afford our insurance and he fired me. I tried to fight in court but in PA "fire at will" is legal. So I was unemployed for 8 months. You might ask "I thought insurance isn't based upon qunatity of kids?" It depends on the policy. But employers might think of down the road problems. These kids could all be high risk.


I know, amazing huh? Kind of hard to believe much of what they say when you read things that they actually said/typed and then they back off from later.

Perhaps Jon should consider his own advice. And, if there is any question in anyone's mind STILL that Jon lied about being fired for having the babies, that quote pretty much proves it.

It's these things that are irrefutable that paint them in a bad light. This is all WAY before there was ever a show or money, so when people say, "Oh, you're just a hater...you're just jealous" I feel like smacking them on the head and saying, "What part of this don't you get? They've been at this for years!"

ThingsThat Make You Go Hmmm said...

They still will get reappraised and have to pay property tax based on the value of their homw. And last nights episode was worth way more than $50,000. Trust me they will get a 1099-misc form. Nothing is for free."

_________________

Who do you think owns 20/20 and primetime? Lookup the major Cable networks Timewerner and Comcast. I am telling you it is a racket. We all watch. Those people should get a percentage of the ratings now that would be something. They don't see a penny of the ratings for the show. It is a way bigger headache then most of us think. And if they complained about anything they would be ungreatful, RIGHT?

EXACTLY - what say do they have? It is like winning the lottery no one teaches who how to manange that large amount of money. That is why those people end up poorer than what they started out at. You can have all the fancy gadgets in the world but you are still going to have to raise those kids. GOD has taught us to rely on him and him only. No matter what we are human and humans are not as reliable as you think. God will NEVER let you down. "Ask and you shall receive." -"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find;
knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that
asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him
that knocketh it shall be opened...If ye then, being evil,
know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much
more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things
to them that ask him?"
Matthew -8, 11, KJV

And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer,
believing, ye shall receive."
Matthew 21:22, KJV

Daddyof8
TWIN GIRLS 10/08/2000
SEXTUPLETS BBB GGG 05/10/2004
www.sixgosselins.com

_____________________

Then another poster wrote in response to Jon's and others negative comments:

"


Excuse me. Why can't we just be happy for these families and leave it alone. Let them worry about the taxes and expenses. It's their business, not ours. Why are you all trying to figure out his salary, how much the utilities would be, and the waterpark expenses? Why do we have to be so negative and look on the downside of everything. After all, they did get scholarships for all seven children and free nanny service for a year. You can't beat that! "

______________________

Jon's response?

"Because it is all fake!!!!!!!!! I can't be happy for them. I feel sad for them. No offense you wouldn't understand, and I don't expect you to. I was trying to let everyone know what it is really like. Its hard enough to raise 6 kids and now you have to deal with the added mess. I just don't want anyone to make the seame mistakes. We live and learn. Sorry to burst your Utopian bubble. I'll drop the issue. Goodbye!


Daddyof8
TWIN GIRLS 10/08/2000
SEXTUPLETS BBB GGG 05/10/2004
www.sixgosselins.com "

I found these posts at http://www.tripletconnection.org, btw

ThingsThat Make You Go Hmmm said...

Wow, and this was just posted on Triplet Connection TODAY, February 6, 2009:

http://www.tripletconnection.org/triplet_forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=135&topic_id=110534&mesg_id=110534&listing_type=search

At the request of Jonathan Gosselin and after a detailed converation with him, we have removed all of his posts that he authored and some of his posted threads. Some of the threads remain where he has responded to but he did request that all of his posted pictures of his family be removed--they have. My heart goes out to this family who have found because of their unique situation, through the world of the internet and probing eyes of the media, that life can be made so miserable and scary that this becomes the result.

Both Jonathan and I thank those of you on the forum who have offered positive words of support and encouragement in the past months. It has become apparent that not all of the posters on this forum have been HOM families. Some have been members of the media that used this access for a avenue into their private lives and others who only wanted to criticize for reasons of jealosy or whatever. So as a result, all future posts regarding the Gosselin family will be removed.

Jeff Bleyl

fromheretothere said...

the reason Kate put up such a stink about jon not using a coupon for the shower head is because Kate is the P&G spokesperson for their coupons...so of course she has to make it look like they use coupons...

ThingsThat Make You Go Hmmm said...

Perhaps the thread there entitled "Are you tired of Jon and Kate Plus 8" posted yesterday is what brought it on the pulling of Jon's posts. Lots of serious backlash against the Gosselins there.

Anonymomma said...

ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmm Said:

Jon's response?

"Because it is all fake!!!!!!!!! I can't be happy for them. I feel sad for them. No offense you wouldn't understand, and I don't expect you to. I was trying to let everyone know what it is really like. Its hard enough to raise 6 kids and now you have to deal with the added mess. I just don't want anyone to make the seame mistakes. We live and learn. Sorry to burst your Utopian bubble. I'll drop the issue. Goodbye!


Daddyof8
TWIN GIRLS 10/08/2000
SEXTUPLETS BBB GGG 05/10/2004
www.sixgosselins.com "


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Whoa. You know, I knew about the first part of that post but not the poster who asked why he was so negative let alone his counter to that reply. I can't even believe I'm shocked. Jealous because someone else got something he so badly wanted. What a spolied little child.

Anonymomma said...

Just something to chew on...it occured to me that OctoMom, who had been hospitalized on bedrest with seven babies (she hadn't known about the 8th until their birth) managed to keep a tight lid on it all until the babies were born. Then the news broke. Keight, on the other hand, had articles written in the Reading Eagle for months before the birth of the tups, detailing everything from how much Kate slept to how many calories a day she took in.

I guess the theory of superstition in regards to the health of the babies goes right out the window when one ponders why it was that KON did nothing to prepare in advance for six more children (i.e, a baby shower, buying layette, etc.). It seems they actually were expecting handouts and freebies from the minute they hit that proverbial baby lottery.

miss irene said...

The "I got fired because of insurance for 8 kids" is a crock. He got fired (quit) while Keight was on bedrest right? At that point there were NO babies, let alone 8. Not to be mean or wish ill on a child, but the odds were greatly stacked against the pregnancy reaching viability and then all 6 babies actually surviving. I just can't see a company counting 6 FETUSES as dependents. I mean, don't the children have to be at least born before they are considered? And how would his company even know about the 6 fetuses (feti?) in the first place???? The whole thing is just ridiculously ridiculous when you stop to think about it, but yet ppl still site it as legitimate.

And another thing. He was unemployed but the twins were with Kate's parents? Why was he not at home taking care of his 3 yo children?? The poor girls were barely turned 3 when Kate decided to go for the gold and they were cast aside. I understand being lonely and all that at the hospital, but I would be much more comfortable knowing that my children were being taken care of and loved. I have 4 kids of my own and each time my husband has been there for my very short labors and then I send him straight home to our other children. Yes, it sucks being in the hospital by myself but being a mother means putting your children's well being before your own comfort sometimes. No wonder the girls are resentful of the twins, they were barely out of toddlerhood before their parents pushed them away to make room for the tups.

miss irene said...

Anonymomma, I totally agree with you. The KONs put themselves out there very early in the game. I'm glad all the babies survived and were healthy, it would have been devastating to have the whole world know about the pg and then lose some of them along the way.

I know a girl who is having quads. She had a failed IVF attempt, then had 2 good embryos and 1 'poor quality' embryo transferred. All 3 took and 1 then split, so 2 babies plus identical twins. She is only 3 mos along but so far they are all developing on track and have good heartbeats. She was planning on using cloth diapers and going a more natural parenting route, so she is already trying to figure out how much of everything she is going to need and is getting as much as possible as money allows. She knows she will be on bedrest in the very near future, so is trying to do as much as possible now. There is no way to be 'prepared' for HOM, but they are trying to do the most that they can.

It doesn't seem like KON tried to prepare for the babies at all. They could have started buying diapers, wipes, clothes, etc as soon as they found out they were pg and then it wouldn't have been as difficult. With infertility treatments you find out right away how many babies there are and are closely monitored, it's not like she went into labor and babies just started popping out one after another!

But then again Jon would have had to have had a JOB and since he was unemployed the whole time... it just seems like with having toddler twins plus 6 more on board that he would have been working 2 or even 3 jobs to prepare for them. Instead they relied on everyone else to provide for them. Seriously, putting a van on their 'prayer list' and then waiting an entire yr before purchasing one themselves!

Anonymomma said...

miss irene said...
The "I got fired because of insurance for 8 kids" is a crock. He got fired (quit) while Keight was on bedrest right? At that point there were NO babies, let alone 8. Not to be mean or wish ill on a child, but the odds were greatly stacked against the pregnancy reaching viability and then all 6 babies actually surviving. I just can't see a company counting 6 FETUSES as dependents. I mean, don't the children have to be at least born before they are considered? And how would his company even know about the 6 fetuses (feti?) in the first place???? The whole thing is just ridiculously ridiculous when you stop to think about it, but yet ppl still site it as legitimate.

And another thing. He was unemployed but the twins were with Kate's parents? Why was he not at home taking care of his 3 yo children?? The poor girls were barely turned 3 when Kate decided to go for the gold and they were cast aside. I understand being lonely and all that at the hospital, but I would be much more comfortable knowing that my children were being taken care of and loved. I have 4 kids of my own and each time my husband has been there for my very short labors and then I send him straight home to our other children. Yes, it sucks being in the hospital by myself but being a mother means putting your children's well being before your own comfort sometimes. No wonder the girls are resentful of the twins, they were barely out of toddlerhood before their parents pushed them away to make room for the tups.


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Excellent points! Insurance would not have considered the babies babies until they were actually born and accounted for.

And about the bed rest and lack of caring for the twins, another good observation. If he wasn't going to be working he should have at least be taking care of his own daughters. Makes you wonder about the rift between Kate and her parents. She claims (or at least Figure 8 does) that they have an off camera relationship with them, yet Jane does an interview in Utah and says they aren't hands-on?

miss irene said...

I think the rift with Keight's parents has to do with the twins. My personal, and by no means informed, opinion is that they wanted her parents to continue keeping the girls. Someone said in the book Keight says that everyone kept telling to 'snap out of it' and 'get back to normal' but didn't understand that there was no normal, they were never going to 'snap out of it'. IMO I think that perhaps her parents told her it was time to take care of ALL her children, that her daughters needed their parents. And probably told her to lose the drama, that it wasn't good for the kids. This would lead to them 'not understanding us' and 'didn't know how to help us'.

Again, all this is just my opinion based off things KON themselves have said.

HiThere said...

These parents of multiples are catching on-
http://www.tripletconnection.org/triplet_forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=135&topic_id=403711&mesg_id=403711&page=

alana said...

J. Killebrew said

"I'm pretty sure Octo-mom got some work..."

and

"And when will we ever hear from this Dr.?"

The State of California will be investigating the doctor, according to CNN Headline News at 11p.m. 2/05/2009.

As for the mother of fourteen children, I doubt she had time to do anything yesterday besides pump milk (as she insists she'll breastfeed all eight babies!), take a real shower, pump milk, find something , ANYTHING that would fit to wear for her interview, pump milk, call her other children, nap, pump milk...
She may have also visited her new babies - those of us who have had to leave a newborn in the hospital know how crucial it was to return at least once a day,depending on how many little ones we had at home.

If we're judging a beauty contest here, I also think Kate's got NOTHIN' on her; this mom doesn't have time to encase herself in PLASTIC; which includes Peroxide, Botox and Restylene. Lucky for her it doesn't look like she needs all the work Take has had.

The 8mom said she wanted a big family since she was an "only" child. Last time I checked BIG families usually included a husband/father. (Movie "stars" started this idiot trend...)

On CNN today, a psychologist put into words exactly why I think what she's done is "wrong":

If this woman has "issues" with her parents, childhood, et.al., it would have been more adult of her to get some kind of COUNSELING before she started having babies. Babies are not responsible for her happiness - it is the other way around. To fulfill all that is EMPTY and MISSING in her is a HUGE BURDEN to put on a child. Expecting a child to right all that's wrong with her life is IMMATURE and just plain NUTS.

"First a PERSON, then a possibility..."*

*Carl Rogers

Vicki said...

Having viewed the Octo-Mom interview a couple of times, IMO she is wacko-nuts and in serious need of Mental Health intervention. (As is Keight, IMO) I have nothing against Fertility
treatments for the right reasons,
but come on. These two cases will no doubt make it more difficult for those truly in need of help in the future to receive it. I believe much more about KON will come to light soon.

Vicki said...

And more one thing, I'd be the first to admit what KON and TLC have been allowed to do to 8 Children makes me wacko-nuts at times also. (Raises my blood-pressure, too.)

kteacher said...

I saw a clip with Nadya Suleman yesterday. I think she is delusional. I'm wondering why she didn't complete her education before having all her children. I can't imagine how she will be able to care for all her children's physical and emotional needs. I found it very difficult to manage with my preemie twins and and a two year old in the beginning. Also, does anyone else think that Nadya had work on her lips and nose?

Slainte said...

True story- I was overdue last night to clean the fridge, and the entire (reasonable)time I could not get The Spiky Psycho's shrill out of my head, like I have been doing it half-ass for the last 15 years.

I love my son! said...

kteacher said...
I saw a clip with Nadya Suleman yesterday. I think she is delusional. I'm wondering why she didn't complete her education before having all her children. I can't imagine how she will be able to care for all her children's physical and emotional needs. I found it very difficult to manage with my preemie twins and and a two year old in the beginning. Also, does anyone else think that Nadya had work on her lips and nose?
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Hey Now! I posted above that Nadya looked as if she was trying imitate Angelina Jolie's look. Maybe she's thinking she can look like her and gain the fame and free stuff Kate received.

You know what else? Kate is like a bad informercial on how to "get rich quick".

Kate's Infomercial: "Are you tired of that ho hum, honest 9 - 5 job that you've been working? Just imagine never having to work again! My scam...I mean 'plan', includes how to act poor while actually living large! This is tried and true and it has worked so well for me. And it can work for you too! Imagine endless free vacations, homes, clothing, food, plastic surgeries, books and the best part of all the Fame & Money! If you call within the next twenty minutes... because I can't offer this all day...I have to tend to my sheeple, Jon's peeps, oh and my kids...(I always seem to forget about them 'cause they're dispersed everywhere) I'll include my DVD's of seasons 1 & 2, and tips on how to belittle and berate you family (at a minimal charge of course)! BUT you have to act now because people are catching on fast!!!

SmartyQ said...

HiThere said... John's father was an American, of French/Welsh descent.

I am getting tired of Jon saying he is Korean. He is an American, of Korean-French-Welsh descent.


Jon's father's nationality is American. Jon's father's ancestors are of French and Welsh nationalities. Jon's father's race is Caucasian.

Jon's nationality is American. His race is half Asian, half caucasian—or Eurasian. (This is assuming his Asian grandparents were 100% Asian and had not married haoles. Ditto for his great grandparents.)

QFI called herself a 'mutt' because both Jon and she confuse nationality with race. QFI is Caucasian period.

Their offspring are one quarter Asian and three quarters Caucasian.

Lisa said...

Anyone catch THE SOUP last night? Coupongate was their clip of the week! And the set-up was priceless... "Kate was birthing litters before it was cool..."
Also, I just have to get this off my chest. In re: to the now infamous coupongate - how is there one person left standing who can take these people seriously? There they are, standing in their million dollar mansion, and Kate is going on & on about a $20 coupon for a showerhead? How can people not see through their facade???

hug a collie said...

Kate is going to be on Dr. Phil thursday. He is doing a show about the octo-mom. I probably wont watch b/c he seems to fooled by her. But last night on Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell they spoke about the posibility of the octoplets getting a reality show and how that would be a bad idea because it would turn them into freaks and take away any chance at a normal childhood. Thye even brought up Jane and Kate (gotta love larry king). I was so excited!

Mary said...

I Love My Son

Loved your "Kates Infomercial".

Very funny.

Tami said...

I was just wondering if they have edited out Kate's face slapping in reruns? Anyone seen any of the slaps lately?

yeaisaidthat said...

In re: to the now infamous coupongate - how is there one person left standing who can take these people seriously? There they are, standing in their million dollar mansion, and Kate is going on & on about a $20 coupon for a showerhead? How can people not see through their facade???

As my husband and I watched 'coupon gate' unfold as the Soup's clip of the week, my husband asked 'are there people who actually take these two clowns seriously'?

zoey said...

I wish Kate would stop saying "god wanted me to have sextuplets" If he did, im sure you would have conceived them naturally. Science got you pregnant. science allowed you to have sextuplets.

Jen K said...

There they are, standing in their million dollar mansion, and Kate is going on & on about a $20 coupon for a showerhead? How can people not see through their facade???


I don't doubt for a minute that they use coupons still. Kate strikes me as someone who has a scarcity complex. I think she grabs every free thing she can get her hands on and always has her hands out for more. She's the equivalent, in my opinion, of the kid who sticks their whole fist in the Halloween candy bowl when it's offered and loads up her bag while others are happy to take what is offered to them. :)

But you are absolutely right...it was a facade and an act for the camera so that there could be a big dramatic blow up about the coupon so they could get it on the record that they use coupons and are still "average". The fact that they have that house is something that they realize makes them look like people who love to spend their new money so in order to be relatable they had to have that "scene". As soon as it started you could tell by her tone of voice, his mannerisms and the overly dramatic actions that this was being played out for the camera.

You can't invite people into your life, let them get to know you and then try to fool them by acting differently for a particular scene. The fact that we HAVE seen so much of these people makes the differences in the way they act and speak very obvious. Also obvious is that when Kate is speaking and uncomfortable (or fibbing) she looks down and fiddles with the throw blanket on the arm of the chair. She also looks straight at Jon while making a statement as if to say, "right? You agree with me, right?"

She'd never fool a polygraph, that's for sure! :)

Jen K said...

But last night on Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell

I'm not familiar with that show...do you have details on it? Time/channel etc?

momof5 said...

Anyone else see this weeks Entertainment Weekly in the Bullseye section? It says "Octuplet mom hires a publicist, fields tv offers. The Gosselins prepare for war" LOL! So true.

Anonymomma said...

True story- I was overdue last night to clean the fridge, and the entire (reasonable)time I could not get The Spiky Psycho's shrill out of my head, like I have been doing it half-ass for the last 15 years.


The whole fridgegate cracks me up. I tore mine apart the night before Thanksgiving because the in laws were coming for dinner and it did need to be cleaned. It took about 45 minutes, because I put the shelves and bins in the dishwasher then did the rest by hand. Keight is on crack if she thinks she fooled anyone into believing it took her four hours. And if it did, she's also on crack for actually spending four hours on an applicance rather than her family.

Kate is a bad actress said...

I laughed at Kate's exaggeration. I doubt she spent much time that we didn't see on TV. It takes my housekeeper about 20 minutes to clean the fridge since she keeps it up regularly. I think it took 30 minutes the first time. But then she is a pro at it.

If Kate thinks any of us believe she spent 4 hours cleaning a fridge then she's more wacked out than I thought or she's a total rookie at cleaning.

Kat said...

Tangerine Tanya,

Just wanted to remind you that Jon's dad was caucasion, not Korean, so she was probably more accepting of it then most traditional Asian families would be.

Kat said...

Oh, I so call BS on his "PA has a fire at will" law. I live in PA, and it's ILLEGAL to fire someone without a true reason. So Mr. Gosselin, try not BSing someone who lives there and knows the law.

GrammyPie said...

Science may have gotten Kate pregnant, but God gave her beautiful and healthy babies.

I love my son! said...

Thank you Mary!

hug a collie said...

Jen K said...
But last night on Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell

I'm not familiar with that show...do you have details on it? Time/channel etc?
***************************

Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell is a new show on Headline News. It comes on before Nancy Grace at 6pm here in houston area. Also, one of her guests last night to talk about the subject was Brook Anderson who I believe did the lone piece on Kon. (the CNN video we have all seen from a while back)

Dr. Pepper said...

"Science may have gotten Kate pregnant, but God gave her beautiful and healthy babies."

Really? Would this be the same god who killed five of the six Morrison sextuplets?

hug a collie said...

anonymomma said,

"Keight is on crack if she thinks she fooled anyone into believing it took her four hours. And if it did, she's also on crack for actually spending four hours on an applicance rather than her family."
*****************************

Amen to that!! Thats why I cant believe ANYONE on the planet would ever consider her a great mom. Its so obvious she would rather do ANYTHING than actually BE A MOM! (please excuse all the !'s)

ShisoandRice said...

So, since the rumors of the Gosselins putting up a vinyl privacy fence around their entire property are apparently TRUE, I did some pricing and guess how much they spent on fencing?

$81,000.00 DOLLARS

Plus installation.

This doesnt include the stone gate posts and electric gate at the driveway.

So more like $150,000.00 all said and done.

Kate? was that gate and fence to keep people out or keep your 8 little employees IN?

chesterctymom said...

GrammyPie said...

Science may have gotten Kate pregnant, but God gave her beautiful and healthy babies.



And selling the privacy of those babies gave their greedy parents a million dollar home, a vacation condo and way too many free things to count.

Janine said...

kteacher said...
I saw a clip with Nadya Suleman yesterday. I think she is delusional. I'm wondering why she didn't complete her education before having all her children. I can't imagine how she will be able to care for all her children's physical and emotional needs. I found it very difficult to manage with my preemie twins and and a two year old in the beginning. Also, does anyone else think that Nadya had work on her lips and nose?

I saw the interview with Ann Curry. AND YES!!! The first thing I noticed was the obvious BOTOX of the lips. She seemed puffed up around the nose, so she must have had that Botoxed too. AND this woman needs Pampers and formula DONATED? I think NOT. Not one single dime from me. California CPS can handle this mess!

ThreeFarmers said...

Would just like to point out that GWOP has attracted a half-million hits in less than a month. The rollover to 2 million occurred on January 7th.

It had been taking 3 or 4 months to accumulate a million hits. Would love to know how many of those half-million hits have happened since the birth of the octs.

zoey said...

GrammyPie said...

Science may have gotten Kate pregnant, but God gave her beautiful and healthy babies.

ACTUALLY Science gave her healthy babies.
if they were born naturally and healthy then sure ok god gave her healthy babies.
but the facts are the babies were under weight. and needed help breathing. Nature/God (since people often confuse the two) would not have allowed these babies to survive... Science and modern medicine (a form of science) got Kate Pregnant and helped her deliver 6 healthy babies.

Sharla said...

Beginning with January 26 through about 5 minutes ago, we've had 395,243 visits.

GrammyPie said...

Wow Dr Pepper, my comment was in response to Zoey commenting that science got her pregnant, and gave her sextuplets. The parents of many multiples have lost some or all of their babies. My opinion is that Kate should consider herself lucky that she carried all those babies and delivered them safely, and they are all healthy. I do believe it is God's will that they were born beautiful and healthy. I do not believe Chesterctmom, that is was for them to have their privacy sold, so their greedy parents could have all they do. Gosh, I am not a sheeple, just giving my opinion.

KassaMarie said...

There was something like 50 doctors at Kate's delivery right? If I was delivering at that hospital then I would have been dang mad. Or if my child was in the NICU fighting for its life and she had 6 in there? Its not right.
_________________

Do you think your NICU baby has more of a right to live than the Gosselin 6? Whether or not they should have been conceived is irrelevant. They were, and they had to be cared for. Doctors don't leave babies to die just because their conception is a "fertility nightmare". Nor do they say, "This woman's baby is more important than this woman's babies." Babies conceived naturally are no more worthy of life than babies artifically conceived.

I totally appreciate all the hatred for Jon and Kate. But this is crossing over into hatred of the tups and twins. They were conceived, they were born, they're alive. The issue now is how they are raised and cared for, not whether they were conceived according to these arbitrary laws of normality or morality.

Even if Kate somehow masterminded this whole thing just for money, it doesn't change the fact that these kids are alive and need to be protected. We can't go back in time and stop Kate from conceiving. We can't go back in time and convince Kate and Jon to selectively reduce. We can, however, work to end the exploitation these children are facing right now. Focusing on the past is not helping the kids.

laura linger said...

All of the comments that Jane Gosselin made on that one site that have now been swiffered need to be sent to The Smoking Gun website, post haste.

JaimeisPeevedNow said...

o you think your NICU baby has more of a right to live than the Gosselin 6?

KassaMarie: (another poster here): No, I do not. But I also think that MY NICU baby has the SAME rights as the "Gosselin 6!" I could also say, "just because my baby is a Singleton, does not mean he should be ignored in favor of the STARDOM of the "Gosselin Six."
Yeah I agree with the original mom who asked that question. I maintain that that hospital knew the "Gosselin Six" were coming -and when --so they better DAMN WELL have made POSITIVE that they had extra staff, LOTS of them, for that day, week, month , whatever!
\ Other patients and THEIR babies' needs should NOT suffer b/c some celebrity, or mom dropping a litter, comes in (Ahead of time they knew) to have their Little Future Moneymakers.

Tangerine Tanya said...

SmartyQ- Very good and very clear.Well put

Kat- You are so right.

Yes It Is said...

Tangerine Tanya,

Just wanted to remind you that Jon's dad was caucasion, not Korean, so she was probably more accepting of it then most traditional Asian families would be.

2/07/2009 11:30 AM
Anonymous Kat said...

Oh, I so call BS on his "PA has a fire at will" law. I live in PA, and it's ILLEGAL to fire someone without a true reason. So Mr. Gosselin, try not BSing someone who lives there and knows the law.

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Clearly you don't know the law, because Pennsylvania is an at will state. As with every at will state, there are exceptions to the at will law, but that doesn't change the fact that it is an at will state.

http://library.findlaw.com/1999/Jun/1/127724.html

Dr. Pepper said...

"Gosh, I am not a sheeple, just giving my opinion."

Grammy Pie, I have read your posts, I know you're not a sheeple. But since you believe that it was God who was responsible for the six healthy Gosselins, I asked if it was also God responsible for the Morrison sextuplet tragedy where only one was healthy and the other five died.

shelbysmom said...

Kate was the clip of the week on The Soup last night!!! They showed Jon rolling his eyes at her after she commented about telling men what to do. Then the best part they showed her tyrade about the coupon and made a spoof of Jon Killing loading a gun and shooting himself to get away from her.

ThreeFarmers said...

Dr. Pepper said:

Grammy Pie, I have read your posts, I know you're not a sheeple. But since you believe that it was God who was responsible for the six healthy Gosselins, I asked if it was also God responsible for the Morrison sextuplet tragedy where only one was healthy and the other five died.


I've been reading this exchange with interest. Dr. Pepper and Grammy Pie both have understandable points of view. I think it's best that we all keep in mind that it is easy to use God as an explanation for all good things that happen in life.

However, just as many bad things happen in life to people who are just as good and deserving as those whom we consider blessed. I suggest that unless we can come up with an explanation for the bad things that is just as simple as crediting God, we have a little more empathy for those who are less blessed.

Personally, I think God expects to use the free will that we were given. We are responsible for our actions. Sometimes things work out and sometimes they don't. One of the greatest of God's gifts to all of us is the ability to take that chance.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Yes It Is,

I shouldn't have made a assumption about Jon's mom having a issue with Kate being a caucasian. I knew full well( but didn't remember when I was posting this comment) that "Poppi" was caucasian as well. Who can forget the pictures of Poppi with the twins? It is too bad that he isn't alive as I am sure that he would be very involved with his 8 grandchildren.

GrammyPie said...

Dr Pepper, I am so sorry if I offended you in any way. I Googled the Morrison family you spoke about. They had a very sad outcome to their HOM birth. They had extremely premature babies at only 22 weeks gestation. That is eight weeks less than the G's. The parents are wonderful. They do thank God for their remaining son. This does not seem to be the case with J/K. They take for granted those beautiful children. Even the twins are taken for granted.

If you have read my posts before, you know I am a retired OB nurse. I have seen many tragedies, even with singletons. I certainly know how much science is involved in saving these very pre-term babies.

Anonymomma said...

Can anyone help confirm/deny this? I found the following comment posted on http://www.readingeagle.com/blog.aspx?bid=2&id=19526&t=Kate-Gosselin-hilariously-criticizes-oct

dated February 3rd 2009. Here it is:

please could we keep the focus on the ramifications of reality tv shows which feature multiple births.

the media outlet tmz has already reported that the mother is in the works of having a show about her situation on the fox network in prime time being offered 3.6 million for the first 20 show season.
her family has also retained a public relations firm to explore all options for income including the 800 thousand for the shot of the babies on next weeks cover of people magazine.

much to the detriment of the kate gosselin the tlc network has canceled their show after this season.

i guess it just the sign of the times
Comment By Anonymous At 2/3/2009 4:29 PM

fxfanatic said...

Kate on Dr. Phil this week to discuss Octopussy.


from http://blog.psychic-wisdom.net



Dr. Phil
Thursday - 2/12
Octuplet Debate
For most single mothers, one child is enough of a handful, but when a 33-year-old woman in Southern California gave birth to eight premature babies — in addition to the six children under the age of 8 she already has — the country started talking! The mother of 14, Nadya, is keeping a low profile, but it is reported that all her children were created through in-vitro fertilization, an expensive and purposeful process. Questions are cropping up: How did she end up with eight embryos? How will she care for all of them? Who will pay these children’s expenses over the years? How do we take the children’s well-being into account in reproductive medicine? Dr. Phil and his panel of esteemed guests, including pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears co-host of The Doctors, debate the ethical and practical questions that have been raised. Dr. Phil will also speak with Kate Gosselin, mother of eight and star of TLC’s Jon and Kate Plus 8, about the challenges of raising eight children.

WHERE TO CONTACT DR. SHILL:
http://www.drphil.com/plugger/respond/?plugID=9164

Lulubell said...

http://blog.psychic-wisdom.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/jk83.jpg

I found this site, and I choked on my boca burger.

Annie said...

I hope that EVERYONE will send Dr. Phil an e-mail regarding Kate on his show. I have sent mine.

Marissa said...

Just a couple of thoughts. In regards to Jon having his posts removed from tripleconnection, I think that it's ridiculous that the owner chose to do so. Even without knowing all of what was removed, the fact that Jon wanted anything removed, speaks volumes.
I'm sure more of what he wanted removed will eventually re-surface. Things on the internet always seem to do that.

Next thought. Kate is always doing any interview and appearance she can. Especially with the octuplet birth. I guess she doesn't care that she only gets these gigs b/c the octuplet mom herself isn't doing the interview circuit as of yet. Also, they could talk to other HOM moms, but they are probably too busy actually being moms.

My problem with Kate working is not that she chooses to work. Lots of moms who don't have to, chose to work. It's the fact that Kate chooses to work so much, when she has eight children. It's not like she is out working so that the kids will be able to eat. I am a stay at home mom and even I have some days where I feel guilty for not spending enough time with my child. I have to question how much time each child spends with Kate. She can't be traveling, doing interviews, book signings and speeches, filming a tv show, cleaning house, cooking meals, all while treating each of her eight children as if they were only children (which is what she stated to be her goal, despite having HOM). I just can't imagine how they are able to still convince themselves that they are doing the best they can for their kids. Kids want time with their parents more than anything else. And I imagine that to be especially true for children in large families.

machinegunsmom said...

I posted this somewhere else before I saw the Free Discussion: the Gosselins were back on the Soup for Coupongate. It was actually the Clip of the Week. I appreciate that Joel McHale calls her out on her BS, but I don't like this whole "celeb status" thing.

Kelster said...

Hello everyone first time poster but long time reader!

I would like to address some questions and update you all on a few questions you have asked one another!

I have a friend who attended the speaking of Jon at PSU on is family and life as a Korean-American. She called me after the show and told me some very intresting things he touched on!

He mentioned they have two German shepard puppies, which are brother and sister. He mentioned Kate's books coming out and he also has one he's working on!! He said to keep watching the show they just signed on for season 5 and a trip to Korea!! He said they have a Vietnamese babysitter, but she dosen't want to be taped so don't expect to see her on the show! He also confirmed that Hannah did have her own room because the $3,000 doctor bill proved she had migrains! He mentioned they haven't been able to enjoy the new $1.3 million dollar home because they have been so busy and they don't go out much because all the attention and having to have a bodygaurd! One student asked why they didn't move down South and he mentioned they didn't want to leave family...Kate has been learning to cook Korean food from Jon's grandmother (the recipes will be in her cookbook) He mentioned when Kate is home she has a lot of spa days!! Also he said him and Kate are now producers on the show!!! (ugh)

She said it was intresting and he actually touched on a lot of things. It was only for people with a student I.D.

I thought you all might like some of this so I asked if I could pass the info on! I love this site and I hope it gets even more people like me intrested!

hug a collie said...

I sent my letter to Dr. Phil. I hope everyone does too!

Lots of Luck said...

Yeah, it's finally Saturday night and I just had to watch the The Big Move episode once again! Haven't seen anything else on this but, did anyone notice how much footage was shown of Alexis and Joel? Could it be damage control as a lot of us here at GWOP believe those 2(two) children are sometimes not treated with as much love and kindness as some of the other children. These are the ones that are so often called unkind names and labeled by their parents:(!!! I'm not going to repeat those things again but,
everyone here knows exactly what I'm talking about.

After reading some of the previous posts today I was thinking about so many other things like watching the kids play outside at the new house, just had me thinking about the episode when the family went out for ice cream, the night Kate allowed the kids to have ice cream for dinner (not sure which episode). Anyway, the kids were playing in the grass and looking at an ant hill I think and just playing and just having so much fun(NO BRIGHT LIGHTS), JUST BEING KIDS! Anyway, Kate was yelling across the way to get up, get up, no grass stains! (I think they had just been to the park, -for some reason I just can't remember this episode very well), but if they were at the park, they had on playclothes right?. Anyway they were having so much fun! So, when I saw them outside playing at the new house I was hoping this wasn't staged. Kate is so crazy about dirt, no shoes in the house which I can understand, we have the same rules at our house, but grass stains? After seeing the kids running around outside, hair not combed, playing with trucks in the landscaped areas, I just hope that was real... real in real life, not just the reality of the show...

The other thing I just can't get off my mind this week is Mady and Cara and the way we have been seeing them lately. Mady's behavior during the recent Phily interviews and Cara just seeming so sad. I am saying a prayer for all of them right now.

I will be very sad if this show is cancelled because I do love the show, but it has to end because the Child Exploitation has to STOP.
It will leave me sad not to see those beautiful, innocent children, because I worry about them and it is one of the few programs I can still watch with my children other than Disney and Nickelodean. Hopefully, whatever happens, we will continue to receive updates on the family in a more private way...with more respect to the children's privacy and in a kinder gentler way.

KHole & AHole said...

There was nothing on tonight so I was flipping channels and 2 J&K's came on. The first was the big move and then M&K's birthday. My husband never watches this show but tonight he actually sat there doing nothing else but watching them. Right away he started talking about how horrible Kate is. He didn't let up throughout. I can't believe anyone sits down these days and actually enjoys the show and thinks this is a nice family. It's become all about watching just to see how disgusting someone can actually be.

nosheeple said...

Maybe it's just me because I noticed people complimenting her here, but IMO the octomom looks scary. She has had SO much obvious plastic surgery done. Come one. You can pretty much tell she went to the plastic surgeon and said make me look like Angelina. The collagen lips are fake and the nose has been tweaked to the point of being almost non-existent. I also thought she seemed weird. She's not all there. So she thinks she is entitled to just stay home with her 14 kids and give them all her time and attention? Just like KON feels they are entitled not to work and to be supposed stay at home parents? She obviously thinks the world should support her because she wants to have lots of kids.

LOTS OF LUCK said...

Kelster,

Thanks for the update and information. Sounds like it could have came straight from the sheister himself. NOT sure how to spell sheister? That's a lot to think about - it will take a while to think through everything...Hmm, so Kate has lots of spa days WHEN she is home, funny I thought it was just once a month with the love offerings that were given to her.

LOTS OF LUCK said...

Oh Kelster, what you said she said:

German shephards, those are guard dogs, could be good with kids, could not be. I hope they have a loving trainer supervising and teaching these kids how to children interact with these puppies!

J's writing a book - I hope it's a tell all.

Season 5 - OMGoodness, Korea, we knew it was coming, how many times will the Gosselins stop to adjust for time zones. Those poor kids, travel, travel, travel, most kids just want to sleep in their own little beds, you remember Kate, the one's you took so much time choosing at the expense of Colin.

Vietnamese babysitter- What happened to Jenny, it's only been 6months since North Caroline and less time than that since Hawaii.
Where is JENNY? Is there anything stable and consistent in your children's lives??? And the new babysitter, why doesn't she want to be filmed, she is being paid right?

Bodyguards- You sold your children's privacy, how does it feel to have yours gone now? Hide behind your new white fence it matches Kate's chair.

Moving South- You've told us Kate's family isn't involved, so suddenly yours is?

Producers- OMgoodness, interested, not.

bradleymom said...

There have been several posts about how people would feel if Jon were our brother, or son, or relative, regarding Kate's lovely denigrating treatment of him. Bear with me for a quick story - my brother had a live-in girlfriend several years ago that was very much like Kate, she felt threatened by my brother's closeness to us, was incredibly rude to all of us(including my Mother) and was just plain mean to my kids. I sucked it up for as long as I could for my Brother's sake. No one in my family had ever had a problem with any of his other girlfriends (there was none of that "no one is good enough for my brother thing") In fact, I quit a job to take his previous fiancee to chemo/rad. treatment an hour away every day for three months. Sadly, she died, as this was her third bout with bone marrow cancer. With this in mind I tried my best to suck up what was being dished out (my other family was shocked as I am sort of known for being a big mouth)!

Still, bear with me, I am shortening this story as much as I can. On one occassion she went so far over the line with my children and my mother that I could not keep my mouth shut any longer. Out of earshot of kids, thankfully, I called her a big $%#@, a word I never thought in all my life I would ever utter to a female, and listed off her offensive behavior and that we would no longer tolerate it any more. My husband, whom I have never heard utter a bad word about anyone, upon me saying afterwards "that was really bad, wasn't it? said "no, I know her, you hit the nail on the head!" Obviously, this caused quite a rift between my brother and me.

A few months later, after my brother did extensive renovations on her house, she left him for another guy with more money. We have never spoken of any of those incidences since, I think he felt bad that he didn't stick up for us, and was totally bamboozled, and appreciates that there has not been any inkling of an "I told you so" from me. We have been building back what was once a wonderful sibling relationship with great results. He has now married (several years had passed) an amazing women with four great children) I have no sisters biologically - but from my soul and heart I very much have a sister!

If anyone has stayed with me through this - the point is - I could never stand by and watch my brother being treated (as Jon even said) "as a freaking dog" There is no way, as family, or even a friend, that I would not get involved. Everyone can try to make excuses for Jon & Kate - but the level of emotional degradation that takes place makes me ill. As others have said, if this was a man treating his wife this way - all hell would break loose. To people that are making excuses: really look - take off the blinders - this is treatment that Jon and the kids should be getting psychological counseling for.

My brother has ended up with an unexpected, wonderful outcome - one that, at some low points, I am sure he could not have envisioned. We all have second chances, and the ability to write another new chapter in the book of our life.

Thank you to all of you that are here.

LOTS OF LUCK said...

If John and Kate are now producing the show it explains a lot of the mirror image of things we discuss here. We know John was on his computer in his closet (still can't get over that - I do feel sorry for you Jon), and if J&K don't read GWOP, someone from PR certainly does.

Damage control ideas here and Kate acting like, well, like Kate.

Listen up producers, and show us you do have your children's best interests at heart. Show us it's all for the kids...Make us believe it. Finally, quit saying bad things about your kids and welcoming everyone in the whole wide world into your home. Season 5, did you know a child's true personality is formed during the first 5 years of their life. Congratulations producers. Job not well done!

leesehere said...

If Kelster is right...
Jon is slipping info again!
spa days = nip/tuck
I had a feeling with the kids going into full time school.. They will concentrate on trips. They can get 4/5 episodes out of it..
I think Jon still speaks the truth when he is let out of his doghouse or should I say barn!
Enough money to produce???? Wow they have turned into money making sharks.. boy did they step in doggy dooo.

Vicki said...

Upwards of 150K for a fence bought
with the Childrens childhood. Way to go Keight and Jane.

Heidi said...

I read this in the NY Post yesterday. It is a Bill O`Reilly article.
http://www.billoreilly.com/currentarticle

As for OctoMom looking like Jolie, there were plastic surgeons on tv discussing her *look*. They said that she definitely had her nose done because of the pinched look on the bridge and her lips have definitely been injected.
Okay, She does not work and was on worker`s comp. Where did she get the money for school? plastic surgery? and the treatments to have all her children???

I tried to find the clip about coupongate on the soup but there is nothing online now.

You posted the excerpts of Jon on that multiples site and then all of a sudden they disappear..Things that really make you go hmmmm. You should send them to Smoking Gun.

2badsosad said...

Hello everyone first time poster but long time reader!

I would like to address some questions and update you all on a few questions you have asked one another!

So what did Jon Gosselin actually speak to regarding his EXPERIENCES and DIFFICULTIES of being an Asian American in today's society?
IMO, his appearance at PSU was nothing more than a publicity opportunity to promote the J & K + 8 reality show and and his only association with being an 'Asian American' in today's society is that of a Vietnamese babysitter and Kate learning to cook Korean recipes to include in her upcoming cookbook. What does rambling on about his daughter's confirmed migraines justifying her own bedroom , having two dogs, Kate's spa days, and being too busy to enjoy his 1.3 million home representative of 'the experiences and difficulties of being an Asian American in today's socieity'?

I love my son! said...

Kelster said...
Hello everyone first time poster but long time reader!

I would like to address some questions and update you all on a few questions you have asked one another!

I have a friend who attended the speaking of Jon at PSU on is family and life as a Korean-American. She called me after the show and told me some very intresting things he touched on!

He mentioned they have two German shepard puppies, which are brother and sister. He mentioned Kate's books coming out and he also has one he's working on!! He said to keep watching the show they just signed on for season 5 and a trip to Korea!! He said they have a Vietnamese babysitter, but she dosen't want to be taped so don't expect to see her on the show! He also confirmed that Hannah did have her own room because the $3,000 doctor bill proved she had migrains! He mentioned they haven't been able to enjoy the new $1.3 million dollar home because they have been so busy and they don't go out much because all the attention and having to have a bodygaurd! One student asked why they didn't move down South and he mentioned they didn't want to leave family...Kate has been learning to cook Korean food from Jon's grandmother (the recipes will be in her cookbook) He mentioned when Kate is home she has a lot of spa days!! Also he said him and Kate are now producers on the show!!! (ugh)

She said it was intresting and he actually touched on a lot of things. It was only for people with a student I.D.

I thought you all might like some of this so I asked if I could pass the info on! I love this site and I hope it gets even more people like me intrested!
***********************************
I'm going to vomit! Tangerine Tanya and I were just joking around previously about Jon and his posse going to Korea to explore his roots!! Seriously, what the "F" don't these two butt wipes ever get for free?

Great, I can't stand them any more. "By the time we're done with this, we'll be able to afford college"???? HMMM, getting paid not only for being the stars of the show but also for producing the show!

I can only imagine what the future shows will bring. Jon cutting the grass, Jon cleaning the pool, Kate screaming about the dogs, Jon cleaning up after the dogs, another show of Jon cooking Korean food, Kate f'ing packing to go to Korea, Kate and Jon fighting at the airport, Kate having a nervous break down on the airplane, a massive lay over to battle the time change, so maybe they'll throw England (he is part Welsh) and France (part French too) in there so we can get his complete history, and maybe they'll be able to go to Disney in France, or maybe they'll show part of Europe where he went back packing! Let's not forget more book tours and signings, Kate cooking Korean with Jon's grandma...I could go on but what's the point you get the picture. And nothing is going to happen to stop the madness anyway!!

Even if they're not taking handouts anymore they are still charging an extreme amount for speaking engagements and appearances. College should have been paid for a year ago.

Thank you for posting the information from your friend. I only wish she could have pelted him with an egg to the face!

I wish Super Uterus and her crusty side kick Hair Challened Husband would just go a permenant vacation.

C said...

He also confirmed that Hannah did have her own room because the $3,000 doctor bill proved she had migrains!

I'm surprised this wasn't televised for the whole world to see. I guess only the ultra-fave Hannah gets her privacy in situtations like this?

Since Jane and Keight are producing now maybe they can make a AAH (ALL ABOUT HANNAH) show and stretch it into 3 episodes:

1. Hannah gets a headache.
2. Hannah goes to the doctor.
3. Hannah gets spoiled (shocker!) and is told she is the only child who gets her own room in the new home.

I wonder if one of the boys got migraines would they get their own room also? Me thinks NOT.

lisak said...

Does anyone have the date Jon was on triplet connection, because even though they took his post down I can look in the archives to try and find that conversation. I did find this
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.tripletconnection.com

Heidi said...

I wonder if one of the boys got migraines would they get their own room also? Me thinks NOT.

That is what the outbuilding is for C.

timetogokon said...

He mentioned Kate's books coming out and he also has one he's working on!!

******* Oh puleaze,, Jane nor Kate can string together enough words to make a coherent sentence. And, just what would Jane write about anyway - how to "hang" with 15 year olds on the slopes?


He said to keep watching the show they just signed on for season 5 and a trip to Korea!!

******** THIS is the part that really makes me steaming angry. Never once has Jon showed interest in his heritage or teaching his children about Korea, except for that lame Korean-Hawaiian fusion hash he made for that one episode. If Jane and Kate were so interested in the Korean culture, why didn't they include some of the traditional wedding ceremonies in their vow renewal ? Especially since the whole ceremony was supposedly to honor Jane's mom's family who lives in Hawaii. Does Jane even KNOW his relatives in Korea (if there are any?)? Kate won't get any adoration from Korean natives - I doubt they even know who she and Jane are.


He said they have a Vietnamese babysitter, but she dosen't want to be taped so don't expect to see her on the show!


******** The kids don't want to be taped either Jane, how come they are still filming?? BTW, why not get a KOREAN babysitter to maybe expose the kids to the Korean language/traditions? Many older (but not elderly) Korean women take on jobs as "nannies" for lack of a better term. It's very common to hire an older Korean woman to help with the kids and cook meals. Many of my friends have hired such help and it's been wonderful - the women are generally so warm with the kids and incredible cooks !!


He also confirmed that Hannah did have her own room because the $3,000 doctor bill proved she had migrains!

*********There is absolutely NO need to relay how much the supposed doctor's bill was- this is just another example of Jane oh so cunningly begging for money (oh look, we have huge doctor's bills!)


He mentioned they haven't been able to enjoy the new $1.3 million dollar home because they have been so busy and they don't go out much because all the attention and having to have a bodygaurd!

*********Oh well, boo hoo, cry me a river. Gee, wonder who brought on the attention to their family ??


One student asked why they didn't move down South and he mentioned they didn't want to leave family...Kate has been learning to cook Korean food from Jon's grandmother (the recipes will be in her cookbook)

******* What a crockpot of BS. I don't doubt, however, that Jon's grandma's recipes will be in Kate's book as KATE's recipes. And Kate learning to cook from Jon's grandma is just ridiculous.


He mentioned when Kate is home she has a lot of spa days!!

********* Does Kate use her $20 coupons for those spa visits also?


Also he said him and Kate are now producers on the show!!! (ugh)


********* This explains why the show is going down the toilet.



If these statements were truly made by Jane, it's just more organic BS. He is as much of a pathological liar as Kate. Why oh why don't people see through these losers ?!?!


BTW : I am Korean and the thought of Jane and Kate in Korea absolutely disgusts me. Korea is a beautiful country and KON will not appreciate all that it has to offer.

Mommy2K&K said...

OK, I am confused about the fridge in the new house. I thought it was one of those huge ones that match the cabinets but when they showed it in the next episode I thought it was stainless steel. Did they get a new one even after she cleaned the old one or am I just tired?

beachluvin said...

The only way I would watch Jon and Kate go to Korea is if they drop Kate off in North Korea and leave her there!! Everyone knows how clean North Korea is, she would be right at home!

Oh Please Please DROP Katie Irene off in North Korea!! Let the "Great Leader, Kim Jong ll" have at her!!!

Also.....she better not even think about bowing and saying "Ah-so" in Korea......Get your facts straight you morons!

justaname said...

Rich people stay rich by saving money, not by spending it. I'm sure there are plenty of rich people that clip coupons and use other methods to save money.

Kristin said...

I am a Penn State student and attended last night's event, and I think Kelster may have gotten the wrong idea with some of what was said.

First of all, Jon was there to speak about being an Asian-American and was invited by the Asian Pacific American Caucus on campus. The event was free with student ID (but don't worry Jon was paid with funding from our student activity fee).

He did say they got 2 new puppies, boy and girl german shepherds that are brother and sister. The girl dog's name is Nala but I forgot the boy's name.
He said that he was staying with his mom and got in Friday and would be leaving Sunday and Kate was home with kids and she'd be going to Dr. Phil on Monday. He also said that they do have a Vietnamese girl who helps babysit that they chose after going through 15 babysitters.

As far as the topic of his race was concerned, it consisted of answers like "I grew up in central PA so discrimination wasn't a problem for me". He said that Kate learned how to cook Asian food from his mother and that the kids learn a lot about their culture from his mom and grandmother.

Jon did say they are signed up for a fifth season and that it will be "a lot different, a little more manly now that the boys are older and I can do fun things with them" and that he and Kate will be producing some shows themselves. However, when it comes to a trip to Korea I think Kelster may have gotten the wrong impression. A student did ask the question about a trip to Korea but Jon only replied that he would love to go someday but doesn't know when it will happen. Having just talked about the 5th season he did joke that it would be fun to do it for the show, but it didn't sound like there was a plan yet.

Jon also had a trivia question segment about the show and gave away free things like signed books, signed pictures, sunglasses from his snowboarding sponsor, and "shirts that kate wears all the time". I actually got a free autographed picture.

Oh, and probably the greatest part was a male student asked if Jon learned his lesson and now shops with a coupon everywhere. Jon said that he did not return the shower head and that he has decided to "grow a backbone" and told Kate she should return it. He also joked that they should have done a follow up about it so people would know.

Overall, it was very fun, since he spent a lot of time making comments about Kate. In fact, when some students went down to get their prize from the trivia segment, they told Jon he could go ahead and answer the next question and he made a comment like "oh, thanks for your permission Kate". Without Kate being there, it was nice to actually see Jon have a personality. He was very nice and funny and he seems like a "normal" guy.

Lisak said...

timetogokon...
Great comment!
I can't believe anyone would go see Jane Greedslin speak either, I guess people get bored and have nothing better to do with their time.
Wonder why they didn't put Hannie in the basement like they did the other little girl at the other house.
I think the extra room should have been for the twins to have their own room, since they are getting older.

Chris said...

The only way I would watch Jon and Kate go to Korea is if they drop Kate off in North Korea and leave her there!!

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LOL! That one be the one episode I would *love* to watch!

beachluvin said...

justaname said...
Rich people stay rich by saving money, not by spending it. I'm sure there are plenty of rich people that clip coupons and use other methods to save money.

2/08/2009 8:17 AM
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Sure they do, you're absolutely right but rich, poor, middle class whatever.....people treat other human beingst, especially their husbands with respect....not like second class citizens or DOGS!
Don't you get it? It has nothing to do with the coupon, it was the way she treats her husband that has dubbed this episode
'coupon-gate"

I hate kate said...

I have not seen any face slaps in reruns -- none at all. And I didn't put 2 and 2 together until you mentioned it, poster. Obvious editing there.

The Octo-mother is a plastic surgery nightmare, isn't she? We have seen her parents and both have somewhat prominent noses and then we see that she has a Brad Pitt nose...hmmmm..we are thinking to ourselves...that's strange. And the lips are outrageously overfilled with collagen or fat injections. Who knows what this woman really looks like? We do know this -- that she is bound and determined to have her 15 minutes of fame. I hope that 15 minutes is all she gets from anyone.

Kon goes to Korea? Are you friggin' kidding me? Who is still watching this show and believing any of it? My SIL is Korean and can't stand Jane. She said he is an embarassment to the community and that he is about as Korean (if that is something to brag about, which to him it apparently is over his other ancestoral countries) as Bill Clinton. His grandmother must be really shaking her head and wondering why the hell he married this woman and took away her grandson's masculinity.

Bodyguards? Jon said at the "talk" they now need bodyguards? Well, that should tell them something, shouldn't it? They aren't Madonna or Michelle Obama, my gosh, who in the world do these two think they are? What did they do to earn all this? Oh, yes, they sold their children.

whistlingdixiee said...

2 German Shepherds?? Of all the dog breeds they picked the German Shepherd. Good Grief!

I love this breed and have had a German Shepherd.

German Shepherds are extremely intelligent and therefore they will need copious amounts of training and a consistent firm hand. We all know that this is not possible in the Gosselin household!

Kon can't train their own children let alone 2 Shepherds.

This has the potential for disaster. I can picture a couple of the unsupervised tups poking the poor dogs eyes and pulling their tails. The dogs could snap and who could blame them?

Will we be treated to an episode of Jane and Keight explaining euthanasia to the tups? Or how about a fun filled trip to the dog shelter to say goodbye to their new furry friends.

Buy a goldfish KON.

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