Free Discussion 2/13 - 2/19

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Sarah said...

I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but did you catch the jab that Kate made towards the Duggars in the last Q&A show? When asked if she wanted more children, she said "No-Wrong Show" in her annoyingly pretentious way.

I don;t know why, but it bothered me. i mean even if you don't agree with the duggars, and least they're nice to their kids, and respect each other enough to not humiliate one another in front of the camera!

Miss Brown Betti said...

What is it with Jon trying to find coats for the kids in the wardrobe box? Shouldn't the tups have already jackets out and available to wear to pre-school?

ThreeFarmers said...

It will be interesting to compare and contrast the impact living on a reality TV show will have on the Duggar and Gosselin children. Only time will tell us, I suppose.

balletbrat said...

Has anyone been talking about Katie Irene on Dr. Phil 2/11? What has she had done?? There is something different. Also, was it just me or did they cut off Beth's name when showing the book?! Ugh, fix that hair! I see she tried to fix her botched brows.

meeee said...

The show is just not the same in this new house. Lame, but that old house was the house we all knew. Not only that, but Katie Irene is nothing but a phony now, business trips, diva, Stepford look. And the kids just seem so old. I know the show was never "good" to begin with, but now it's just completely unrecognizable.

Sallie said...

I have to say, I've stopped watching. I'll catch the recaps here, but I won't give the show any more of my time.

People keep asking what they can do to stop supporting the show.

First, you can stop watching. Whether you are a Neilson family or not, your DVR playbacks are also recorded, so just stop it with the DVR too.

Second, you can write a letter to TLC’s parent company, Discovery Networks. Discovery Networks is a publicly held company traded on an open exchange, which means they are accountable to stockholders. They also have a required Corporate Governance and Corporate Responsibility Policy, found here: http://corporate.discovery.com/our-company/corporate-responsibility/ . If you believe that the show is exploiting the children and that the corporation is unfairly benefiting from the program, and that they should provide some additional RESPONSIBLE support of Kate and Jon, you could suggest that by writing them a letter, here:
http://corporate.discovery.com/our-company/corporate-responsibility/ . Be prepared to complete a multiple step process before submitting your complaint.

Third, you can speak to the sponsors directly. I just left a job at a large consumer products company, and when I tell you that they take their reputations seriously, I am not exaggerating. Use the known sponsor list here: http://sixgosselins.blogspot.com/2008/10/cnn-headline-news-jon-and-kate-plus-8.html to do some damage.

Fourth, you can use the social media explosion to talk down Jon & Kate. Do you Twitter or Facebook? There are a couple of great, open groups on Facebook, whose numbers are growing. They include my favorite, Jon & Kate Plus 8 – The Most Abused Husband on TV. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11958216241 .

Just a few ideas and outlets for your creative and buying power. Use them – it’s what we have!

Casey and Smudge said...

Miss Brown Betti - Jon was trying to find "play" jackets so they won't get their matchy-matchy preschool coats messy in the dirty woods. It's confusing because their play jackets are nicer than the ill-fitting, fray-cuffed, broken-zippered hand-me-downs I see many children wear to school.

Heidi said...

I saw the Dr. Phil show and it will probably be the last time. He has this panel of experts talking about the implications of the Octomom..etc etc etc. Then they cut to break. Come back and Keight is all by herself with Dr. Phil. Everyone else had the discussion together but she was center stage all by herself with him. They of course had to plug the book. She made it out to sound like the people who helped them got burned out and did not want to help anymore. Yeah, you keep telling yourself that Keight. Dr. Phil asked her how much it costs to raise so many children. She didnt give much information on that because she really does not know..She could probably tell him how much a mani-pedi costs in NYC though!

leesehere said...

My guess is all new furniture arrive for the Queen...
My hope is that she says Mine all Mine to her kids!!!
Maybe she "had" that feeling once...like with Jon.. She might now be that bad but I would not let myself be portrayed like this!!!

timetogokon said...

They include my favorite, Jon & Kate Plus 8 – The Most Abused Husband on TV.

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I joined the FB group I Hate Jon and Kate because it focuses on both of them. The FB group you listed seems like it would make Jon out to be a victim, JMO.

MomOfThree said...

As I posted on the "SWOP" site, I really think that "J & K Plus 8" is winding down. It has not been the same interesting, unique show it started out as for a long time now. And between the new house/new lifestyle and now all the outcry/outrage over Nadgelina and her multitude of multiple multiples and singletons, people are just fed up.

If there is anything good at all to come out of any of these stories, it is that now maybe laws will be in place and enforced to protect children in these situations; children on reality shows, children born to parents who cannot afford to care for them pre-or post-natally, and children who are now essentially earning the family's living thru TV, freebies or government assistance.

I am not against government assistance for those who truly need and deserve it. I am not against fertility treatments or super-sized families as long as ALL expenses associated with these choices (past, present and future) are paid for by the parties who made the original decision.

Scruffy's mom said...

Dr. Phil didn't give her time to answer the question I wanted to hear her answer ... how much does it cost to feed her kids. He asked the question, then basically kept talking saying how expensive it would be, and she didn't even have to answer. She just sat there with a dumb look on her face, and mumbled "astronomical," the same word he used seconds later talking about the octomom's expenses. I guess Kon was reading the same cue card. Everyone here knows she has no idea how much it costs because she doesn't buy groceries (or anything) anymore.

Amanda said...

Hi everyone! I just discovered this site and I enjoy reading it daily. I wanted to share with you my personal Jon and Kate story.

Like the twins, my birthday is in October, and I am originally from Florida. Last October I had made plans to spend a weekend in Orlando with my best friend (I was living in Maryland at the time). So, on a very early Thursday morning in October, I found myself in BWI airport, trying to fight my airplane anxiety.

I had never watched Jon and Kate Plus 8, but my best friend was a huge fan. I also used to be the manager of a toy store. So anyway, I was sitting at my gate, reading, when I noticed these two little girls sitting across from me, clutching their Webkinz. I kept staring at them. Then I noticed their mom. The first thing I saw was her very cute shoes. Then I noticed her train wreck of a hairdo and stared at that for awhile.

With dawning realization I concluded that this was the Gosselin family. I thought, well, if the Korean guy shows up, that will clinch it. And then Jon appeared. I'm not going to tell you what he was eating, but it wasn't organic!

So Kate sat there reading, and Cara and Mady sat there quietly, looking kind of miserable. At this point, I attempted to keep reading, but I kept staring at them until Mady finally smiled at me. I smiled at her (I hang out with kids a lot), and she was showing off her Webkinz to me.

At this point this guy named Steve was noticing me interacting with the kids, so he kind of interrupted. Which was fine, I mean I was a stranger and they were supposedly famous. But what bothered me is Kate was sitting RIGHT THERE and didn't even look up. She didn't look at me, or acknowledge her children at all. When they boarded (of course, they boarded before the rest of us) I overheard the girls saying they were going to Disney World for their birthdays.

When I thought about it later, the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. I had never seen an episode of the show at that point (now I've watched some reruns and have been horrified), and I recognized those little girls. And their mother completely ignored them! Can you imagine the consequences if someone recognized them with more sinister motives?

So to conclude my story, I tell my best friend that I saw them and she got all excited. "Weren't they amazing?" she fawned.

"Um....I think that woman is kind of a b."

She looked at me with disdain. But now her opinion of them is changing, so GWoP and it's message goes on!

sticktoyourcook said...

Obviously, I stock up when things are on sale and watch the sale flyers. I plan my meals according to what is on sale that week.

"I always said that ...my job was to stay at home and make [Jon's] money stretch further. I had always done this, but I got very serious about cooking from scratch. We like to eat organically. A loaf of bread is $3-plus, and you can make an organic loaf of bread--that tastes a hundred times bettes r, by the way--for probably a nickel or a dime."
Kate is quoted for saying this!! A dime or nickel? This woman does not shop or cook anymore!! I would love to see her cookbook! Wow now that is worth a nickel at best!

Its A Good Thing said...

Sallie: Your right we all need to stop watching. I have stopped watching, I still come here often but I will not watch anything Jon and Kate.

I think the new house could be the downfall of J&K. When people are struggling to keep their 2 bedroom homes nobody will want to watch Kate complain that her mansion isn't clean, or her donated appliances are dented.

Ms.Peach said...

Relating to Dr. Phil, having Kate on was a waste of time. It was only a plug for the book. She lied about saying she didn't leave the house for 2 yrs. In one of the early episodes she stated that she worked every other Saturday because they needed the money and that Jon was home alone with the kids on those days. The more they talk, the more they can't keep their stories straight.

I am really upset about the churches paying them a speaking fee. Just because you say the right Christian words doesn't make you a role model. A totally inappropriate use of church funds in these hard economic times. Same goes for the universities.

Yeah, the jacket search was a set up to show that they are still living in boxes and poor Jon can't find anything. Of course those kids had jackets already. It's Nov. in PA! Those boxes were in the basement which means they are there to be stored away.

cheryl said...

Only read the recaps - no time to watch the show. Recaps are much more entertaining. The other home had personality - the new one apparently is the palace.
Time should be spent trying to educate the kids re the walk in the woods.
Up to that point no one has unpacked the g household?? Maybe the other place is now being kept as an escape domicile.
K looked too false on the Dr Phil show, new hair frosting, perfect makeup - for what??? Thinking maybe she has reasons for her numerous trips.

donate the old jackets said...

Speaking of jackets...why don't they donate the jackets that are size 2??? Did anyone else notice that? Some other family might really need a coat...not to mention they have 6 of the same ones, so they could help 6 different families!

Jen K said...

Has anyone ever actually been to a Facebook fan group? It's pure torture.

Majority are 12 year old girls or adults who seem to think they are actually writing to Kate. :)It's rather disturbing and hilarious all at the same time.

balletbrat said...

Scruffy & Heidi,

Exactly- about Katie Irene on Dr. Phil. You know what grated on my nerves though, with Katie saying how "astronomical" the expenses are...Ummm, yet they HAD to have pricy organic groceries and Gymboree/Gap clothes?! How was that even afforded? That's right, it was FREE. Freaking liar she is. They would have never ever been able to do that on their own with their salary.

Tami said...

What is it with Jon trying to find coats for the kids in the wardrobe box? Shouldn't the tups have already jackets out and available to wear to pre-school?
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Are you kidding? They are probably way too fancy to go outside in!

Anonymomma said...

Her food bill was never astronomical. She was given free groceries (5k worth) and diapers from Giant supermarket for I believe the first year, plus WIC provided free formula (1 case per child per month for the first 12 months), not to mention the numerous gift cards and cases of paper towels that fell out of the sky and happened to land ontheir porch because God said so.

Not to sound like I'm bitching or 'jelus' lol, because truly I am used to paying and am rather proud that I can provide for my own children without any charity, but with five children (3 of them are tween boys), my grocery bill is 'astronomical'. June, July, and August, I spend 1200.00 per month stocking up at Sam's Club because the kids are home for summer vacation, swimming, with a million friends in and out most afternoons. That's just the bulk shopping. I also spend approximately 200.00 a week at a local grocery store, minus the 300.00 a month at Wal Mart to buy things like detergents, soap, shampoo, medicines, etc.

Yeah, Kate can come and look at one of my receipts, then cry me a river lol.

But honestly, I am proud to say that while yes, my kids are eating me out of house and home, I provide it for them. I don't 'shout from the rooftops' (though I'm on my soap box right now haha) that the community owes me. I know what it's like to be in the position where you have to ask for help, but most people do anything to avoid having to be there, let alone stay there like Keight.

I can't fathom how they manage to not be even the slightest bit embarrassed that they beg for everything they have, even now. I'd sooner crawl under a rock then even ask my family for financial help. Normal people would be proud that they provided for their families, and not left it up to chance like KON.

Tami said...

At this point this guy named Steve was noticing me interacting with the kids, so he kind of interrupted. Which was fine, I mean I was a stranger and they were supposedly famous. But what bothered me is Kate was sitting RIGHT THERE and didn't even look up. She didn't look at me, or acknowledge her children at all. When they boarded (of course, they boarded before the rest of us) I overheard the girls saying they were going to Disney World for their birthdays.
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I know they are used to strangers staring at them all the time, which is probably why Kate does not acknowledge them. But why would you stare at them anyway? Isn't that kind of rude? It's sort of no wonder why they get irritated. I mean, they are horrible people but it kind of reinforces their disdain for the public when people just stare at them and their kids.

C said...

I wanted to share here that Kate was at my local mall, the Palisades in Nyack, NY for a book signing. If I remember correctly she was supposed to be here originally on the 10th but I would imagine her appearance on Dr. Shril had made her reschedule.

Anyways, upon entering the mall through Barnes & Noble I was surprised to see the sign out front that she was there. The crowd there was very small and no where near the crowds we've supposedly heard about from other book signings. We went through B&N to get to the mall to the store we needed to pick something up from and upon leaving I wanted to stop for a few minutes and observe Kate and the crowd.

Kate did not look very happy (no surprise there) and seemed very very thin. She was wearing those skinny jeans that made her look even MORE thin then she already is. You can't really get a good judge on her appearance from TV. She was real thin, had the fake tan thing going on, the metallic silver lipstick (80's anyone?) had that grey-haired bodyguard guy right next to her and she had that usual smug look on her face the entire time I was there and I didn't see her smile genuinely once, more like those fake smiles we've all seen one time or another from her.

The line mostly consisted of little kids/young teens. She seemed to be pre-occupied/not engaged with what was going on. As soon as she'd sign a book she wouldn't make eye contact with the person before and just look for the next book to sign, again seeming to avoid eye contact unless the fan would engage her first. I did see her signing DVDs of her show too, which they were selling along with the books.

When she got up to take a break we left. I was glad to see a pretty small turnout. Both upon entering and leaving the mall the line was relatively small but even the critic in me wishes that she would have seemed a little more happier to be there, for the little kids in line waiting to meet her and their parents that may have traveled far to get there.

After seeing her in person and getting a good look at her and watching her mannerisms and her in person interact with her fans, HONESTLY I just don't see the appeal in her. She seems so unapproachable and unfriendly and if I was a true fan and went to that appearance I would have walked away sorely disappointed with Kate and her coldness and just her in general as a person. Really, she is that unappealing in real life.

aldergator said...

FYI-

I just got the Friday e-news from my church(Roswell UMC) and KON was scheduled to appear on 3/20. Apparently,"do to circumstances beyond our control" Jane will not be attending, but our dear Keight will be there and she will stay after to sign her book. You can actually request a refund because Jane is not coming. No I am not going!!

FXfanatic said...

It's rather disturbing and hilarious all at the same time.

I find all the sheeple rather disturbing.

BAC said...

C said..
the critic in me wishes that she would have seemed a little more happier to be there, for the little kids in line waiting to meet her and their parents that may have traveled far to get there.

Why? don't you think the fans should get to see the REAL Kate?

After seeing her in person and getting a good look at her and watching her mannerisms and her in person interact with her fans, HONESTLY I just don't see the appeal in her. She seems so unapproachable and unfriendly and if I was a true fan and went to that appearance I would have walked away sorely disappointed with Kate and her coldness and just her in general as a person. Really, she is that unappealing in real life.

I don't think people care how she acts. She is on TV, a celebrity and that is all they care about!

meg said...

Ms.Peach said...

Yeah, the jacket search was a set up to show that they are still living in boxes and poor Jon can't find anything. Of course those kids had jackets already. It's Nov. in PA!
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We actually have pretty mild winters for the most part... I wasn't wearing a coat in november. Most of our cold days were in January and last week we even had a day go up to 70 degrees...

Marissa said...

When is Kate going to ever be home for an extended period of time? I think the family album book comes out in May and the cookbook is coming out in the fall. She's been gone doing all of these book signings for Beth's book for months now. I'm assuming that she'll be doing the same for these next two books. I've commented on this before, but she has eight children and she has the time to "work" so much?! While she may be trying to capitalize on her fame now before she becomes irrelevant, she's not going to get this time back with her children. There is a happy medium between being able to provide for your family and being gone all of the time.

yeaisaidthat said...

"Her food bill was never astronomical. She was given free groceries (5k worth) and diapers from Giant supermarket for I believe the first year, plus WIC provided free formula (1 case per child per month for the first 12 months), not to mention the numerous gift cards and cases of paper towels that fell out of the sky and happened to land ontheir porch because God said so."

Kate has absolutely no business and no real life 'experiences' to reflect on as an 'expert' regarding how much it costs to raise a large family! J & K have been the recipients of free and donated diapers, clothing, free food, free product( baby care products) and services (ie hair cuts) sponsored educational expenses, sponsored vacations, free/sponsored leisure/entertainment, home remodeling and furnishings, cash/gift card donations just to name a few, since the day the tups were born!!! Not to mention J & K's 'real life' expenses that are paid on behalf of TLC/Figure 8 productions per the terms and conditions of filming a reality show in their home.
As Judge Judy would say, 'DONT PEE ON MY FOOT AND TELL ME ITS RAINING'!!

caffinated said...

Do you ever wonder why J&K don't come forward and offer explanations for things? I do. I mean, what kind of person would want to be portrayed so negatively on national TV? True, we as viewers deserve no explanation for anything that is shown, but that being said, I do believe that if you are going to throw your life out there for everyone to see that you are certainly going to be scrutinized for every little thing you do (and don't do) and rumors will most certainly abound.

That leads me to wonder if Kate would have addressed why they had to get a new fridge, would it have made me a bit more understanding when I saw the old one down in the basement?

If she for once would say something about her relationship with Beth, would that stop me from rolling my eyes when I hear her shill for the book that she didn't write?

If an exiled family member would step forward and tell me exactly why there are no grandparents/aunts & uncles in the kids' lives, would I understand more clearly and realize that things are they way they are for a reason?

If they would reveal to me how much they charge for church engagements, or if they still request love offerings, would that stop the anger that I feel towards them when I hear how often they are "on tour?"

If I knew that most of the monies they make off of their children are in secure and growing trusts for them (the kids), for the future, would I be able to stop watching and stop blogging?

If I knew for sure just how much help (nannies) they have daily and really, truly how often those kids were filmed per week, down to the minute, would I be able to make an informed opinion about whether or not the kids were in "danger?"

If I knew the breakdown of what TLC paid, what J&K paid (ha!) and what the host site donated (i.e., Disney, Sea World, hotel stays, etc.) when they go on "vacation," would that end my speculations?

I don't really have specific answers for all the questions I asked above. It just seems to me that by seriously addressing these kind of things would keep rumors at bay.

Again, please let me stress that I don't think that being a "jealous hater" qualifies me for answers and I'm sure that TLC/Figure8/the PR firm (that means PUBLIC RELATIONS for all you ding-dongs out there--lol!) specifically steers J&K away from addressing these kinds of things, because as we all know, publicity in any form is considered good.

My questions could go on and on, as each episode is edited for more and more controversy. Which leads me back to the question I first posed. Who in their right mind would want to be portrayed so negatively on national TV?

C said...

BAC said...
C said..
the critic in me wishes that she would have seemed a little more happier to be there, for the little kids in line waiting to meet her and their parents that may have traveled far to get there.
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Why? don't you think the fans should get to see the REAL Kate?

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Yeah but I was referring more to the little kids in line. They don't know or understand what we as adults do regarding Kate. Their parents are the dolts that are exposing them to this fascination with this fake person, but for a kid, they don't know any better and she could have at least seemed happy to meet them. But then again, we're talking about Kate Gosselin, she's not even excited or happy to be around her own kids much less stranger's kids, so yeah, nevermind.

Professional Mom said...

Aldergader,

Did it cost money for you to go to your own church and hear J&K?! Wow, that is a shock. Shame on everyone in the church for charging. Should we charge for what God gives to us for free?

Anyway, I wish you would go and ask Kate why she thinks it is alright to be disrespectful to her husband, when the Bible clearly commands a wife to respect her husband? (Eph.5:33)

And have a friend ask her if she would like it if Jon spoke to her, the way she speaks to him? Would she like it if he wanted her to do something and stomped his foot, yelled at her, and insulted her intelligence....then slapped his hands together, like telling a dog 'NO! get down".....trying to get her to do it? Would she like her husband to correct her grammar, make fun of the way she speaks, and slap her whenever she says something he doesn't like?

Would she like it if she had to deal with screaming kids, a tv crew, a job, plus a screaming, demanding husband? Why are her feelings and desires the most important?

On the Gosselin's webiste, Kate says that her favorite verse is the Golden Rule, where Jesus told us to treat others with the respect we would like to recieve. That call from God includes husbands. Please ask her if she is aware of that.


Is she also aware that her children, in their behavior with each other, model the way she treats her husband?

Professional Mom said...

Okay, here is the perfect show: Wife Swap with the Gosselins and the Duggars!

Barb said...

Here's a question about the new house. Will they install the strong lighting like they did in the old house?

Professional Mom said...

Oh, by the way, are the Gosselins aware that having an unused refridgerator in the basement, with the doors ajar, is very, very dangerous, when you have little kids. They crawl into them, and can not get out, and die!! It needs to be shut, and locked!

I noticed when Jon was getting the coats together, that the fridge was ajar. I assume so that more mold would not grow in it. Probably shouldn't have unlocked freezers or fridges down in the basement of such a big house, where the kids play.

momof5 said...

aldergator said...
FYI-

I just got the Friday e-news from my church(Roswell UMC) and KON was scheduled to appear on 3/20. Apparently,"do to circumstances beyond our control" Jane will not be attending, but our dear Keight will be there and she will stay after to sign her book. You can actually request a refund because Jane is not coming. No I am not going!!

2/13/2009 9:18 AM

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I'm not going either but I had a feeling that was coming. I wonder if Jon is going to speak somewhere else? If they speak separately then they can get twice the money!

MidWest Mom said...

I was in WalMart this morning here in the suburbs of Kansas City and as I was pushing my cart towards the checkout lanes....guess what I overhead on those tv-monitors suspended from the ceilings in the clothing department?

Oh yes, folks,.....apparently J&K has now invaded Wal Mart.

I turned around and looked right up at the monitor, and it was a commercial for Season 3 of J&K+8....."and don't forget to watch the new Gosselin music video" the narrator plugged on in a drab voice....

Good grief....first K-Mart, now WalMart.....

Can't I even shop for life's necessities without having that woman's face shoved in mine ?

alexiswazfirst said...

go to wikianswers. com and type in is kate gosselin a good mother? ther is a huge paragraph about how bad of a mother she is. thought it was interesting

CG1980 said...

I have read this blog of and on for a while and never posted. I am a former HUGE fan of the show, and began to feel uncomfortable (as many have) with the tension and the free trips and the free toys and the endless exploitation of the kids and then began reading sights like this and realized it went much deeper.

The only thing I have to add to the many, many comments is that everyone REALLY needs to stop watching. You can't get on here, criticize her and the family and be glued to your tv every Monday night. You are supporting them in what they're doing whether you'll admit to it or not.

Also, if you are a Christian, as I've seen several of you are, pray HARD for this family. If even half of what has been said on blogs is true, then the children are suffering greatly. I can't imagine having so many family members just disappear out of their lives. It's tragic. My kids love their grandparents and aunts and uncles so much and I don't have a clue what it would do to them if suddenly one (let alone 6!!!) of them were shut out of our lives. Pray for them... that they would begin to see what's best and healthy for their kids and put away their greed. It just breaks my heart...

On another note, I've switched to the Duggars... If you haven't watched that it's wonderful and refreshing to see a family actually be nice to one another.

Arieslikekate said...

Did you say "Music video"?

oh lord, is Katie Irene trying to break into singing and dancing now?

Its A Good Thing said...

momof5 said...

I'm not going either but I had a feeling that was coming. I wonder if Jon is going to speak somewhere else? If they speak separately then they can get twice the money!

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From what I understand its normally only Kate at recent speaking engagements, my theory on this is Jon doesn't do well at keeping the lies straight.

Arieslikekate said...

did you see the previews for next week? the NEW furniture and appliances arrive, and Kate goes ballastic as the washer is "dented".

Off with his head!

marrypoppins said...

They looked like they had a big blowout before their interviews. Kate also looked dragged out. Perhaps she was cleaning the whole house with a toothbrush and bleach?!

madhatt3r said...

when it became obvious that Jane was the focus of this interview, Kate really showed her true colors...

ItsAllGravy said...

Kate looked bored to *++** during this episode mainly due to the fact that it was not a Kate-centric episode like every other one thus far.

ROFL said...

I can only muster a blank stare in response to this episode. Why is this show still on the air?

jon and kate are cons said...

The reason that they keep the size 2 jackets are because Kate probably is planning on having more kids when the "babies" go to school full-time. Kate wants to try and as many babies as the Octomom. It's always about Kate. She is the most selfish woman that I have ever seen.

It would make better common sense for the kids to wear old jackets in the woods. They could get ripped or dirty (God forbid). but Jon and Kate don't have any common sense. They just have greed.

The love between Jon and Kate is gone. These two are getting tired of each other. Jon is realizing what a witch of a woman that he married. I am sure that he has some "women friends" in Utah and that's why he goes there. I don't blame him. The way that Kate treats him is a sin.

The new house is cold like Kate. Seeing boxes all over the house when Kate is such a neat freak is distrurbing.

Jon feeding the kids peanut butter and jelly on white bread is another joke. It was cold outside. why didn't those kids have some nice warm soup? Remember the soup that Kate made for the winter?

The whole show is one big lie. Those kids are so loud and whiny, more than ever before. It's time for this show to end.

Jen K said...

I noticed when Jon was getting the coats together, that the fridge was ajar. I assume so that more mold would not grow in it. Probably shouldn't have unlocked freezers or fridges down in the basement of such a big house, where the kids play.


Or take the doors off at least. Why any family with small children would leave something like that in that way is beyond me. Common sense...ughh...why are even the most basic parenting principles too much for this pair to grasp?

Jane in California said...

As a single mom of one child, I most definitely agree with those who say parents should not have children unless they feel able to provide for them. It's one thing to become pregnant and find you are carrying multiples, but it's another to take fertility drugs, when you already have two healthy lovely girls, and pretend to be shocked and surprised that you are carrying multiples, and then work your tail off for freebies.

The octomom has put a very stark face on what Jon & Kate are doing -- they at least tried to make it look pretty, where as the octomom puts it right out there - with a paypal link or way to charge your credit card to send her CA$H. They are doing the same thing, and I think people may be seeing through Jon & Kate, especially with this huge home they are in now.

Times are very very bad economically. I am thankful every day for my full time job and that I can still pay the mortgage, and the after school care for my son, and buy him gently used clothing on eBay. He wears his shoes until they get well and truly worn on the bottom, then I buy him a new pair. He has two pairs of shoes at one time - sneakers and sandals. That's it, but that's enough. He knows to try to recycle his plastic baggies used in his lunch, to bring them home so I can use them another day. We've cancelled plans for a trip to Seattle this spring, because I'm worried that I might regret spending that money and need it for food or gas instead.

Still, I'm not a bit envious of Jon & Kate and their huge empty home. My house isn't fancy, but we try to have harmony in the home. As my son sat at the coffee table last night, make clay animals, and I sat reading a library book on the couch, I felt happy. We don't have much, but what we've got is a lot more than what Jon & Kate have, and that's the truth.

Red Haired Vixen said...

During any couch interview I would guess that if Jon said "The sky is blue", Queen Kate would argue that it was not, and that Jon was a stupid idiot for saying it. They really need to edit themselves during these interviews because their pure contempt for each other is showing.

Kitty Kat said...

My cat *hated* my nephews when they were small. I can only imaging having eight kids running after it yelling "KITTY!" would give the poor thing a heart attack.

SirCryAlot said...

Neither Jon nor Kate were really "at their best" during this ep. I mean, Kate was non-existant except for the interviews, but she seemed really tired and out of it and, well, as usual....bitchy.

Blogger 2132 said...

Jon I think is still a kid and reacts like one at times especially when Kate, the more adult of the two, is gone. Yeah he is the father of 8 but he still is pretty inmature.

I also think they both have completely different parenting styles and really need to work on merging the two if they are going to make it. I doubt they love each other very much but they need to get on the same page if they are going to last and for the kids sake I really hope they do.

Candy Cane said...

The show does negatively affect the kids in lots of ways. Living your everyday life on camera for years is just not a normal situation and is bound to influence their personalities. I think it's high time Jon and Kate wrap the show up and let their kids have a few years of normal childhood before puberty hits, and I think Mady's behavior on those live interviews is a perfect example of where things are going as the kids start to realize they're living like a sideshow.

aldergator said...

Hey Professional Mom,

To answer your question, yes you must have a paid ticket to see her highness Keight on 3/20 at Roswell UMC. Tickets are $15 for main floor and $5 for balcony seating. I believe tickets are still available, you have to purchase them thru i-tickets. I am not sure how the refunds will work? Lets hope that no one wants to see her. The church has already cut staff salaries and office hours do to the economy, but Keight is still on the program, whatever. I know several people have written to the pastor in charge of the visit and he was nasty to them. Maybe he has a crush on the idiot woman, he is Japanese and you know how Keight likes her Asian men.

I Hate Jon Gosselin said...

Jon is a big loser. He never grew up, never went to college, never had a real job. He didn't even have to get Kate pregant a lab technician in a white coat did more work in producing those kids-more than Jon did.

Nanny Mystery said...

Of course the new nanny won't be on film. J & K want it to appear they do it all without help, and if viewers saw a nanny, they'd wonder how 2 unemployed bozo's can afford a nanny, and why on God's green earth would they need one if they don't work?

In a nutshell, having a nanny makes them look bad. It has nothing to do with her not wanting to be filmed.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

Random thought...What do you think Jon and Kate are giving each other for Valentine's Day?

Heidi said...

OMG..There is a music video.

They have it on the TLC website but I found it on YouTube instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMqWHsK2OOA&feature=related

I wonder if that means they are going to make another one??

Matching outfits.Dancing. Kids. Mom and Dad. Is this the Brady Bunch or Partridge Family? ROFL

Heidi said...

There is a music video!
And there is a behind the scenes of the music video too. *Ooooo!*

Behind the scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaBaDw_nDtI&feature=related

Music Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMqWHsK2OOA&feature=related

Smells like the Brady Bunch!

AnneMarie said...

The dog I've seen in the commercial is NOT a german shepherd.

Queen Kate at B&N said...

C said...
I wanted to share here that Kate was at my local mall, the Palisades in Nyack, NY for a book signing. If I remember correctly she was supposed to be here originally on the 10th but I would imagine her appearance on Dr. Shril had made her reschedule.

Anyways, upon entering the mall through Barnes & Noble I was surprised to see the sign out front that she was there. The crowd there was very small and no where near the crowds we've supposedly heard about from other book signings. We went through B&N to get to the mall to the store we needed to pick something up from and upon leaving I wanted to stop for a few minutes and observe Kate and the crowd.

Kate did not look very happy (no surprise there) and seemed very very thin. She was wearing those skinny jeans that made her look even MORE thin then she already is. You can't really get a good judge on her appearance from TV. She was real thin, had the fake tan thing going on, the metallic silver lipstick (80's anyone?) had that grey-haired bodyguard guy right next to her and she had that usual smug look on her face the entire time I was there and I didn't see her smile genuinely once, more like those fake smiles we've all seen one time or another from her.

The line mostly consisted of little kids/young teens. She seemed to be pre-occupied/not engaged with what was going on. As soon as she'd sign a book she wouldn't make eye contact with the person before and just look for the next book to sign, again seeming to avoid eye contact unless the fan would engage her first. I did see her signing DVDs of her show too, which they were selling along with the books.

When she got up to take a break we left. I was glad to see a pretty small turnout. Both upon entering and leaving the mall the line was relatively small but even the critic in me wishes that she would have seemed a little more happier to be there, for the little kids in line waiting to meet her and their parents that may have traveled far to get there.

After seeing her in person and getting a good look at her and watching her mannerisms and her in person interact with her fans, HONESTLY I just don't see the appeal in her. She seems so unapproachable and unfriendly and if I was a true fan and went to that appearance I would have walked away sorely disappointed with Kate and her coldness and just her in general as a person. Really, she is that unappealing in real life.

2/13/2009 8:52 AM

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I was on a trip to NY to see family and went to this B&N to see Kate, too. Just got home about an hour ago. ( Ok folks, just to clarify, I went out of my way to see Whitney Houston once, too, but that doesn't make me a fan. I can't stand her either ).

Anyway, I had the very same experience you did. I did not find Kate "charming" at all. I actually thought she was a little to eager to leave. All she could muster was a half smile, not even a hello, and then looked directly at the next person. The man standing with her looked more interested in me than she did!

I tried sharing my experince on another site, where someone just raved about her and said she's even nicer in person than she is on tv, and lo and behold, it never got posted. Gee, wonder why?

I have a cellphone pic. Any tips on how to share them here?

Charlie Rose said...

CG21980 nicely said. However, I don't watch the show and haven't in quite some time. Jon and Kate are clearly "abusing" the system, which are their kids. Maybe not physically (although some will say they are), but definitely emotionally and psychologically. People will stand by and watch this garbage and call it entertainment and say they are just human and no one is perfect. I would tell them to quit watching the show because Jon and Kate are not role models and if this is what you are teaching your own children, it says a lot about your own character.

Yes, they need prayers. Lots of them.

Amanda said...

Tami, I wasn't trying to be rude, I was just trying to figure out who they were. Have you never looked at a person and felt like you had known them from somewhere but couldn't place it?

Anyway the point of my story was just to share something where I had seen firsthand how little she pays attention to her kids. That's all.

Jen K said...

Interesting story on MSNBC.com about "baby addiction". I'll post the link below, but here was an interesting passage:

It’s really important when you have children to have resources,” Kaslow says. “Not just financial resources but emotional resources.”
Peterson says some of the most “damaged” children are those in very poor homes and those in very rich ones. Young children, especially, don’t thrive when they are raised by an army of nannies — even fabulous nannies — at the expense of bonding time with their parents, she says. Nannies come and go, which can be devastating to children who spend the majority of their time with these caregivers.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29163803/

Go Away J and K said...

My favourite presence in the music video is that of Kate Irene's precious lawn chair!! Always a must have! lol

machinegunsmom said...

In "the interest of fairness," I've been looking for good things to say about the Gs...don't know why, since this is Gosselins Without Pity, but you know...anyway, nothing good can be said about the new episodes, but I've been noticing things in the re-runs and comparing them to what we've seen over the past few weeks.

I don't know when the Thomas the Train epi aired on the Kon timeline, but I'm fairly certain it was after Cupcakegate, which is when I knew for certain I no longer liked Kate. I have to point out that Kate did NOT sit by Hannah on the train rides, did NOT hold her hand en route, and did NOT carry her about like a baby throughout the episode, in fact, it was Alexis she was carting around, which was a nice change of pace. It's kind of sad that the nicest thing that can be said about Kate is she didn't show favoritism one time.

Anyway...I know Leah is her supposed "second favorite" and she did sit next to Leah on the train, but she also let Joel sit with them in their little booth. She was being very motherly and sweet to Collin and telling him that Thomas was named after him (Collin Thomas), pointing things out that normal parents would point out to their kids in the interest of learning, and craning to look at all of her kids sitting throughout the train car, making sure they were having fun. She thanked Cara and Mady for being helpful...Hannie was nowhere to be seen (well, she was with Jon). And Jon DID snap at Mady for fixing Alexis' hair and while several people have speculated that Mady flinched the same way Lexi did when Jon broke her stick recently, I didn't see that. Mady cringed the way I see a lot of kids do when they're being yelled at. Then Jon did go back and more nicely explain to her that he understood she was trying to help but that Alexis is weird about her hair. He validated Mady, something we haven't seen Jon nor Kate do in...I don't know how long.

There were inevitable bad points in this episode, too, and I remember a lot of people saying that while Jon was unloading the van when they went home, Kate just sat in the front seat the whole time doing nothing...I STILL didn't pay enough attention to notice but what I did note was her grabbing hold of Aaden as everyone else was going inside, just before he got in the door. She kissed him on the head and asked him and him alone if he liked Thomas. It was nice to see a few cute moments and special attention paid to the boys.

Then either right before or right after that, Cupcakegate was on again and they totally blew it for me.

I just don't understand...Kon have never been perfect parents, none of us are, and they've done a lot of things wrong over 3+ seasons, but they still both showed a very human side and let tender moments slip through with their kids, though a lot of kate's moments have been referred to as "damage control."

Now they're money-grubbing zombies who seem to have less and less interest in the kids who gave them all of this fame and fortune...much as they like to think that the show is "the family job," no one would be watching just Jon and Kate slumped in the interview chair describing every event in their lives as "awesome." Well, I take that back, people watch the Q&A epis, but those still have clips of the kids.

Anonymomma said...

Professional Mom said...
Oh, by the way, are the Gosselins aware that having an unused refridgerator in the basement, with the doors ajar, is very, very dangerous, when you have little kids. They crawl into them, and can not get out, and die!! It needs to be shut, and locked!

I noticed when Jon was getting the coats together, that the fridge was ajar. I assume so that more mold would not grow in it. Probably shouldn't have unlocked freezers or fridges down in the basement of such a big house, where the kids play.

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Ok, now I am not exactly sure if this goes for the whole state of PA or county by county, town, borough, etc. A few years ago, we got a new deep freezer. It was in the springtime. We had no where to put the old one until we could dispose of it besides the back porch. So I scrubbed it out (without a q-tip haha) and had the hubby unplug it and put it out there. However...

Where I live (nearby to KON but not the same zip code), it is LAW that if you have an appliance (fridge, freezer, dryer, etc.) that is not in use, and is in I believe any vicinity where children play (albeit in the house or out) it MUST have the doors taken off. Completely off the hinges. We had to do this. Around here, if you get caught having left them on it's a very steep fine. And it's because of accidents where kids have played hide and seek and were trapped inside.

Like I said I don't know if it applies to Wernersville but I live close enough to them and it does apply to me. Even if it didn't, it's common sense. Take the doors off.

machinegunsmom said...

Miss Brown Betti said...
What is it with Jon trying to find coats for the kids in the wardrobe box? Shouldn't the tups have already jackets out and available to wear to pre-school?
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The jackets they wear to preschool probably aren't "play jackets" that are allowed to get dirty. You know, so she gets the best value at consignment. But yeah, I would think that in cold weather all jackets should be made available, regardless of what activity they're designated for. We live in Nebraska where there are about 80 different types of weather conditions happening in any one week and all of my son's various-weight jackets are hanging on one hook so if it happens to be 55 degrees in January, we don't have to go searching through boxes...Jon & Kate aren't known for efficiency.

machinegunsmom said...

If there is anything good at all to come out of any of these stories, it is that now maybe laws will be in place and enforced to protect children in these situations; children on reality shows, children born to parents who cannot afford to care for them pre-or post-natally, and children who are now essentially earning the family's living thru TV, freebies or government assistance.
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I might have to refer back to Schoolhouse Rock, but does anyone know anything about writing bills? I tried to find more information on this after a woman here received several citations for not properly restraining her children in the car and finally let her 3-year-old fall out of the car on his head and die (we have lame, almost non-existent carseat laws in NE)and only got a slap on the wrist for it...but I digress. What are the conditions of the Jackie Coogan law and how did that come about? Maybe we need a Gosselin 8 law! Or Suleman 14 law...

free the gosselin 8 said...

Tami
How DARE they have any disdain for the public whatsoever. THEY chose to invite the public into their lives, they accepted gifts and money, and they tell their kids how much strangers love them. Why would you sell pictures of your kids to people you disdain? Why give speecehes to people you don't want to be recognized by? They want it both ways, "Give us everything for free, and I'll talk to you only if I'm paid. Why should we say no to anything that's offered to us? Our only responsibility is to mention everything given to us by name so the sheeple can buy it and think they are just like us somehow."

Panda said...

Aldergator,
Roswell Methodist will always be my true church home, even though I now live a million miles away. Rev. Malone baptised all three of my children and Rev. "John" married us in front of Bulloch Hall. Having grown up at that church, I have to say that a lot of the behaviour Kate exhibits would not be condoned by either of those wonderful men. I can't imagine how much the church must of changed if the new pastor is now being rude. Malone would of addressed the concerns with humor and compassion, but then again, I don't think he would of brought someone like Kate Gosselin to speak in the first place...... I was sad to read that they were bringing Kate to the church and even more sad to hear how the pastor is handling the issue.

mirele said...

Kitty Kat: yep, the bit with the cat reminded me of the time my two nephews came for a visit and my cat spent the entire time under my bed. Every time I looked under there, I got an "Are they GONE yet?" look from poor Susita kitty.

All: I'd never watched J&K until this latest episode and, frankly, if I didn't know this couple was supposed to be happily married, I would have assumed from tone of voice, body language, etc., that there were some serious problems in that marriage.

Some people commented that Jon snapping the laptop shut was mean, but I was a kid who preferred to have my nose in a book. If my mom hadn't taken the book out of my hands and said, "Go get some fresh air!" I would never have gone outside. On the other hand, when I did go outside, my siblings and myself roamed around in a way that parents these days would be afraid to let their kids do. Ah, the 60s, they're so gone.

The tups are cute but they are, in some ways, being treated like babies. They need to be allowed to act their age. How are they going to be in kindergarten if they aren't out of bibs and sippy cups?

Just moved said...

Just thought you might be interested in knowing that realtordotcom now has two listings for the G's house. the original one with the rear elevation shown in still listed at 350,000 but the new one with the front elevation that we all know and love from the series is listed at $330,000. The new listing also has new pictures with a very cleaned-up kitchen.

C.P. Mom said...

KIND OF OFF TOPIC
Did any one see Dr. Phil 2/13 with the mom and dad with triplets? Yes, no doubt she has a real hard job taking care of those babies. But asking Dr. Phil for help, oh my....guess what?? She gets things for free! A personal trainer, the gym, $1000. from JC Penney and one night of free babysitting a month for a whole year. I can't remember if there was more. Once again, multiply babies=free stuff. But most importantly, did you hear Phil say something to the effect if you love her you will ask what you can do for her? ( as in taking out the trash) Oh my if this isn't a line from Kate Gosselin. How does Kate want to hear it? Oh honey how can I help you? (of course Jon adds in time of stress)No wonder Phil has not acknowledged our emails of concern about Kate...I think he is a Kate follower.

PK said...

I just watched Inside Edition and believe it or not they showed a video yesterday (it has been seen on other shows as well) of a young boy whose father taped him after leaving the dentist office. The boy was very loopy and funny.
It is called David after the Dentist.
Anyway on today's show The Wall Street Journal and Christian Science Monitor were all up in arms saying that this father exploited his son.
Maybe we are writing to the wrong people!

Ravello said...

Has there been any news on the magazine article about the Gosselins? We were not told which magazine is doing te story. Does anyone know when the story will come out?

momof5 said...

Machinegunmom.....
What is Cupcakegate? Ive heard that referenced before. Please explain....

Thanks!

Sharla said...

We'll announce the magazine article as soon as we can. Progress is being made.

RuthinVA said...

PK said...
I just watched Inside Edition and believe it or not they showed a video yesterday (it has been seen on other shows as well) of a young boy whose father taped him after leaving the dentist office. The boy was very loopy and funny.
It is called David after the Dentist.
Anyway on today's show The Wall Street Journal and Christian Science Monitor were all up in arms saying that this father exploited his son.
Maybe we are writing to the wrong people!

2/13/2009 3:31 PM
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I saw this and my first thought was what an idiotic father, he shouldn't even have a child.
The child was very bothered by the way he felt from the nitrous oxide, asking the father if he would feel like this from now on and the father was laughing and filming it.
PK you might have a very good point, especially if the "bad" parts are explained well enough to get these people to watch them.

yeaisaidthat said...

"I always said that ...my job was to stay at home and make [Jon's] money stretch further. I had always done this, but I got very serious about cooking from scratch. We like to eat organically. A loaf of bread is $3-plus, and you can make an organic loaf of bread--that tastes a hundred times bettes r, by the way--for probably a nickel or a dime."


I would like to know where Kate Gosselin is acquiring her ORGANIC FLOUR ( organic wheat, multi grain etc), EGGS, MILK and other organic ingrediants that enables her to make an organic loaf of bread for 'probably a nickel or a dime'!! ORGANIC flours are extremely expensive depending on brand and grain type and can cost from $5-$10a bag. ORGANIC eggs cost $3 to $7 plus a dozen. A half gallon of ORGANIC milk depending on brand $4 plus. Other bread ingrediants such as ORGANIC oats, fruits/dried fruits, nuts/seeds honey, cheese etc are ALL far more expensive than non-organic alternatives. Which explains why consumers pay double plus at Whole Foods for an ALL ORGANIC ingrediant loaf of bread vs. $2plus for a loaf of store brand bread !

timetogokon said...

What is Cupcakegate? Ive heard that referenced before. Please explain....

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To all the newcomers:

Cupcakegate (The Tups Turn 4)- Jane and Kate take the tups to decorate cupcakes for their birthday but because they do not eat enough dinner, do not allow the boy tups to eat their cupcakes but do allow the girl tups/twins to eat their cupcakes in front of them. Kate was a complete biatch the entire time they were at the bakery, which opened on a Sunday just for them.

Joelgate(Cooking with the Twins)- all the tups have the flu. After Joel throws up on his comforter, Kate forces him to lie down on a thin blanket on the laundry room floor so she doesn't have to clean up any more blankets. Joel also has a fever, Kate keeps him in there with the door closed until Jon comes home to rescue him.

Gumgate (Mady's Day) - Aunt Jodi is watching the kids while Mady has her special day. Aunt Jodi gives the tups gum, Kate throws a complete hissy because there are specks of gum on Joel's socks and makes Collin cry by threatening to throw away his blanket that also has a speck of gum on it.

Disneygate/Ice Cream Gate (Going South?) : Kate has a COMPLETE meltdown because the kids spill ice cream on their shirts while visiting Disney.

Collingate (Babies and Bunkbeds?)- Kate ignores the fact that Collin is severely constipated so she can pick out bunk beds . Collin is crying, uncomfortable and sweating almost the entire episode.


I think Fridgegate/Coupon gate is the newest, but I didn't watch the episode.

chesterctymom said...

meg said...

We actually have pretty mild winters for the most part... I wasn't wearing a coat in november. Most of our cold days were in January and last week we even had a day go up to 70 degrees...


I live in Chester County and we had a very long stretch of below freezing weather, ice and snow...with the treat of warmer weather this week! And if I recall, November was cold enough that the little ones should have had their jackets on.

Just another day in the reality staged world of the Gosselins!

Tangerine Tanya said...

More info to the poster who asked what the cupcakegate is all about. There was a very good re-cap that was just posted but here is a tad bit more info.

When the Gosselins got home from the bakery and were eating their dinner Kate announced that NO ONE could have a cupcake unless they ate their dinner. It clearly showed that Hannah hardly touched her food but was allowed to eat her cupcake right in front of her brothers. As a matter o fact the other girl tups were allowed to eat their treats as well. Mady/Cara got to eat their cupcakes as well. Poor boy tups were made to do without their birthday treat and watch as all the girls gobbled their treats down. I will never forget the look on poor little Aaidens face when he was told NO he couldnt have his treat because he didnt have enough of his dinner. He said "You mean I cant have my cupcake? I think that hurt many viewers hearts to see that sweet little boy turned down because of Kate's fakey fakey so called eating healthy habits. Yet in a previous episode the Gosselins had gone for an outing and the QUEEN BEE said that they were all going to have ice-cream for dinner. Sometime she doesn't know up from down. We would all gladly give Aaiden cupcakes dinner or not.

Denise said...

Another feature on Cupcake gate is the trip to church. The crew doesn't usually film on Sunday but of course Kate made a big deal of how they always go to church. The twins went to put on their Sunday shoes and they were WAY too small. No telling how long since they had really gone to church.

Slainte said...

Someone above posted a random thought about what Jon and Kate might give each other for Valentine's Day. I had forgotten about this, but it made me sad when I got to "baby school" (day care) with my son this morning and a boy in his class had the same "HeartBreakers" shirt on that the kids had on during the episode where Kate was planning Valentine's Day. I remember the first time I saw that and gave her some credit for putting love and thought into planning the day. I think especially of her boys and wish I believed they would have that same type of day tomorrow...

Jen K said...

Wow, CupcakeGate. :) I hadn't forgotten about it, but reading the mini-recap made me remember what I said to my husband about it. We both remarked that strict rules like that should go out the window on a kiddo's birthday. As a kid, your birthday is the only day that is really YOURS all year.

Now, add in that you have to share YOUR day with 5 other people? Yeah, I'd let my kids eat a whole TRAY of cupcakes if they wanted!

I'd be happy and thanking God that all of my kids are alive and well and healthy on their birthdays, a day that QFI is lucky she got if statistics on multiples are accurate.

They have very little chance to be individuals as it is, let them do what they want on their darn birthday for crying out loud! Just another chance for Kate to exert her Queen-Control for no good reason. Grandstanding for the cameras as usual...yawn.

Amy said...

Random thought...when I first started watching the show that's all there was, a show. Now Kate is everywhere and in to everything. I wonder if anyone ever thought this thing (don't know what to call it) would get so big. The books, DVDs, producers, speaking engagements, spokesperson, just everything. Its like a bad dream I can't wake up from. And the bigger Kate becomes the less she's with her kids who made her famous and rich in the first place.

Exhausted said...

Thinking about some of the -gate episodes, it makes me think of Kate getting so irritated over stains on clothing. I have two very young children, and I can't think of many things they've gotten on their clothes that didn't wash out (even ice cream that had blue food coloring in it!). So really, Kate, you're that stressed about stains? Really? I think it's just an excuse to act like Godzilla and ruin a happy occasion. When we went to Disney, we had to wait forever just to see one darn princess. Kate had them all giving a private party to the kids, and she had to act like an animal. I hope her orderly in the nursing home where she'll be some day (by herself) is just as hateful.

It's bulgogi, not pulgogi, dang it. said...

I wonder about Jon's 'Korean heritage', as Korean born and US raised Korean-American, I was kinda shocked when I heard Jon speak a couple of Korean phrases.

His pronunciation is not what I expected from a child with a full-blooded Korean parent. Granted, his mom was born in the US as far as I know, but that still doesn't make sense that he cannot pronounce simple everyday words... at least, somewhat correctly. He's not removed far enough from his immigrated grandparents that the Korean language would be lost completely.

Than when he acted in a very stereotypical 'Asian' manner in the episode he cooks dinner, it was uncomfortable. Why? why would he do that? AT LEAST do stereotypical Korean impression, but no.

I know if I was on TV, I would not do anything that could encourage stereotype, but that's me... crazy enough to care what other people think and how my actions reflect to others.

My hunch is that Jon had and still has identity issues being bi-racial, and at some point in his younger years, pretty much denied his Asian side. I know it could not have been easy being bi-racial, and in no way am I bashing him, but I am wondering and want to know if I'm the only one having these thoughts.

oh, and Kate saying 'I wish I was Korean' disturbs me, it smells of Asiaphile...

Tami said...

Tami
How DARE they have any disdain for the public whatsoever. THEY chose to invite the public into their lives, they accepted gifts and money, and they tell their kids how much strangers love them. Why would you sell pictures of your kids to people you disdain? Why give speecehes to people you don't want to be recognized by? They want it both ways, "Give us everything for free, and I'll talk to you only if I'm paid. Why should we say no to anything that's offered to us? Our only responsibility is to mention everything given to us by name so the sheeple can buy it and think they are just like us somehow."
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I don't think they should considering they have been begging from that public for years. But, people who stare at "celebrities" don't have the best manners either. You hear about celebrities saying people approach them while they eat dinner or go to a restroom, etc, and ask for autographs. I think it's one thing to be a fan, but when someone is just out in public doing normal stuff and not appearing somewhere for the purpose of meeting fans, it's not cool to treat them as anything other than a regular stranger. But that's just me. I'd maybe smile or whatever, but I wouldn't stare or approach act as if I know them personally.

aaww-my-bees said...

Professional Mom said...

Okay, here is the perfect show: Wife Swap with the Gosselins and the Duggars!
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I thought of this too!! But then I realised I wouldn't want to put the Duggar children through that. :(

Tami said...

Why KON doesn't appear at many places together now (i.e. churches): It's getting impossible for them to pretend to like each other. It's one thing to film it on a couch and another to fake it in person. Also, he seems disgusted at everything she says now, and vice-versa. They are probably living their lives as separately as possible. When Kate is away on "business" he takes care of the kids but when she gets back, he probably takes off to Utah.

Maggie said...

aaww-my-bees, check out the Tom and Trix episodes on our sidebar. Our friend has "swapped" the wives in a two-part episode. It is an good as it gets!

hug a collie said...

I agree with those that say we shouldn't watch. I have become way too disgusted and hate the idea of giving that woman a moment of my time to watch her (even if it is in disgust). I haven't watched in months and dont plan to. The whole thing just gives me that ick feeling and I honestly don't see how anyone can sit through even a moment of it. I understand if you want to keep tabs on the kids and all but unfortunately I see no end in sight. Those kids are a "brand" and as long as their parents continue to market them and idiotic people keep supporting the exploitation nothing will change. I mean really, how can we comfortably watch these children live their daily lives when they have had NO choice in the matter. The laws have got to change. Having said that, I soooo love this site!! Just wish there was more that could be done.

Jodie said...

Random thought...when I first started watching the show that's all there was, a show. Now Kate is everywhere and in to everything. I wonder if anyone ever thought this thing (don't know what to call it) would get so big. The books, DVDs, producers, speaking engagements, spokesperson, just everything. Its like a bad dream I can't wake up from. And the bigger Kate becomes the less she's with her kids who made her famous and rich in the first place.

__________________________________

She might be rich now and have the big house, pool, clothes, vacations, etc., but I still wouldn't trade my life with hers for anything. She's constantly scheduled and travels frequenty without her kids. She didn't even get to unpack her house right away (and you KNOW that was driving her nuts, if she truly has the OCD she claims) all because the next episode is probably going to be the "Let's unpack and decorate!" episode. I'd rather be a TRUE stay at home mom and get to see my children grow up than to leave them with nannies while trying to show the world how to be a good mom instead.

Merrilee said...

aaww-my-bees said...
Professional Mom said...

Okay, here is the perfect show: Wife Swap with the Gosselins and the Duggars!
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I thought of this too!! But then I realised I wouldn't want to put the Duggar children through that. :(

2/13/2009 10:15 PM

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Actually the Duggars would be too easy for Kate. She has Jon do all the work at home, and the Duggar children's home is run like a well-oiled machine, so I think the wife swap should be between Kate and Amy Roloff! Kate would go nuts there after the first few hours. We all know the Roloff home can be pretty darn "lived in" most of the time. I would love to see that! And the Gosselin kids would love Amy to death. They would be able to see Amy eye-to-eye!

Cheetah said...

I was just thinking about Mady, and the following thoughts came to my mind. When I was in 1st and 2nd grade, I was not very well behaved. I was a brat to some extent, and I got in trouble frequently at the private school I attended -- not for really bad things but for a lot of minor things. Then as I got a few years older, my behavior improved greatly, and I began to be quite embarrassed about my past behavior. I became very self-conscious about how others viewed me, and I wanted the approval of adults even more than the approval of my peers. I was glad that only a limited number of people remembered my ill-behaved years.

I just can't imagine what it would be like to be in Mady's shoes. As a teenager, I would have been mortified to find out that not only were millions of people aware of my bad behavior as a child, but that people were calling me horrible things on the internet when I was only 7 or 8 years old, and that many people would always remember me as that ill-behaved child.

My heart breaks for Mady. She doesn't deserve this. She didn't ask for this. She is just a young child and still has a chance to change for the better (although the cards are stacked against her with the parents she has). Hopefully, she will find a way to cope with the hand that has been dealt to her.

Beth in Massachusetts said...

Adding to Amanda's post from 2/13 about seeing them at BWI. We took our children (13 and 10) to Disney for the first time ever over Columbus Day weekend. The Friday of the trip, we went into a French restaurant at Epcot and as we were being seated, spotted J, K, and the twins. They were dining with a Disney rep and some tall bodyguard. They departed before we did, so we didn't get a second look. Then we head over to the Japanese gift shop. My son spots them and wishes to tell them how much he enjoys the show. Well, he stopped himself because J&K were fighting, right there, in the middle of that shop. I almost felt like I was watching an actual episode. Then I notice a flash from a camera, look over and see that this bodyguard is speaking to my husband. He had taken a picture of Jon and the bodyguard asked him to please delete it. He graciously agreed. For his obedience, he and our daughter were given 5x7 glossies of all 10, signed by K. My husband commented that he can now add "failed paparazzi" to his resume!!

I suspect that they were at Disney for the twins' birthday. Wonder what resort they were staying in for free?????? Must be nice.

I lost respect when I noticed that they took more trips in one year than most people take in 5. "What can I get for free?????"

Scruffy's Mom said...

It appears her fees have just gone up ... this for a Muskegon appearance ...

Kate Gosselin

Ticket Prices:
$100.00 - Gold Circle - includes a ticket on the Main Floor Rows C-G, admission to a meet & greet before the event, and Kate's newest book
$45.00 - Main Floor Rows H-S & Lower Balcony Rows A-F
$40.00 - Main Floor Rows T-DD & Upper Balcony Rows G-N
$35.00 - Main Floor Boxes & Upper Balcony Rows O-S
$20.00 - Student Discount ages 12 & under only - limit of 200 seats sold at this discount, not available in Gold Circle Seating

Umm's the word said...

$100 to see Kate Gosselin??? Are you freaking kidding me?? I just paid $100 for Bruce Springsteen tickets...hellooooo, it's the Boss! I wouldn't pay $1 to see that self-absorbed, ummmm single- syllable speaking, child exploiting, husband berating biotch! Anyone who pays that kind of money deserves her snarky, unenthusiastic, unfriendly demeanor. Seriously, in this economy can't the sheeple think of better things to spend their money on?

Its A Good Thing said...

I wonder if the ceiling in the old house was repaired? Because those studio lights that they had in every room (even the childrens rooms) would have left some pretty big and numerous holes. And don't forget all the holes from tacking the cords up and over and down the walls. Also I wonder if they painted the interview portion of the basement to match the rest?

Its A Good Thing said...

When you look at the listing for the old house it seems like the picture of the front was taken earlier than the back. There is no snow in the front yard and the grass is GREEN. Does anybody else find that weird? Maybe its the norm where I live to take a new picture of the front yard when you sell 3 years later?


Oh and I wonder if when they moved to the new house if Kate took that plant (I don't remember what it was) from her grandmother. Remember in the first shows when they moved there and she made such a big deal about stopping the van so she could go dig this plant up?

Vicki said...

A Hundred Dollars for a Ticket? You have got to be joking. Why
on Earth don't Kons "Fans" donate
the money instead to a food bank
or other worthy cause? Makes me sick thinking about it.

Its A Good Thing said...

Its really weird that the house is listed 3 times on realtordotcom. Its listed once at $350,000 and then twice at $330,000. Its very strange, the first $330,000 is with a really clean kitchen and the second is the same messy photos........strange.

Vicki said...

One other thing. Michigan has been hit very, very hard by the
Economy. I can not imagine folks
there having the extra money to
waste on this. I just pray the
Sheeple that attend are not taking
food and clothing from their kids to see KON.

beachluvin said...

What person in their "right" mind would pay $100 a ticket to see Kate Gosselin? I think I just answered my own question!

Pinklady said...

I just read in Entertainment Weekly yesterday that TLC is premiering a new show soon called "Table for Twelve"--you guessed it ,the Hayes Family of "Twins, Twins and Sextuplets".

I'm torn about this. I really liked this family. Mom & Dad seem like such hardworking, down to earth people. From her Httitude about the volunteers, ("hey, come on in, here's a baby, want a cup of coffee?") to her stating how this was , "not her time" (rather, the kids came first) to the Dad busting his hump to support his family--I liked everything about them. They had their priorities straight-I could never see her to be the type to get freaked out over gum on a sock, or keeping a kid from eating a cupcake on their birthday. The children were really, well, normal for lack of a better word-helpful, fun, loving towards their handicapped sister. Still disciplined, but not the Stepford-like Duggar children or the constantly-melting-down G's.

Funny thing is, I could have said the same thing years ago about KON when they first came on to the scene. Time has revealed a different side to them-although it's a bit of a chicken v. egg-did the money/freebees/etc. turn them into such monsters or were they always that way, the fame allowing them to make the decisions they have?

Also, could this be why Jen Stocks is no longer a producer, as I have read on these boards? Could she have moved on to this show?

I have no reason to wish nothing but the best for the Hayes'...for now. I hope this will give them a finacnial boost (why else would they do it?) but I hope they will continue to make wise decisions on their children's behalf.

Something tells me, however, that these types of shows are on their way out, especially not with Octomom and the mainstream media finally catching on to KON.

Time will tell.

pinkdiamond611 said...

If by chance the Kons read this. . . .if I come upon you in NYC I WILL take your photo. You are "public figures" and people are allowed to take pictures of public figures. Don't even try having your bodyguard to convince me to delete the photo. OMG! Who the heck do you think you are!! I don't even want your ugly photo, I will just do it to annoy you. I don't need any pictures of your kids either. They might be cute, but my own kids and kindergarten students are even cuter. jmo.

Amanda said...

Beth in MA,
That's so funny we were there at the same time!
To answer your question, I heard later from some friends who work at Disney that they believed Jon and Kate stayed at the Grand Floridian, no doubt free of charge. The Grand Floridian, which is actually where my friend got married, is ridiculously expensive. Gorgeous though. It's the big hotel you see when you take the monorail to the park.

That being said, it sounds like you and I had a much better time at Disney than they did. :)

Jen K said...

What person in their "right" mind would pay $100 a ticket to see Kate Gosselin? I think I just answered my own question!



I think you did! :) The same people who make creepy fan sites about other people's kids I would expect. Eww.

the other judy said...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/arts/television/15stew.html?_r=1

Suzannedeaz posted this in the old discussion but I wanted to bring it here to discuss in case anyone didn't see it. This article from a few days ago is FILLED with inaccuracies. I have to wonder how much this reporter investigated before reporting this piece of garbage. It's in the NY Times for heaven's sake!! The bottom of the article says that it will be in PRINT tomorrow...grrrr

lisak said...

I can't honestly see anyone paying $100 to sit and here that whole boring story of Kate's life over and over again. Some of the sheeple are saying the bodyguard was mean and made them move on after seeing Kate. What they are not realizing is that this bodyguard is paid by Kate and will only do what Kate tells him. They have him there now to make Kate look better, not for protection. I honestly think some people will fall for anything. God, I'm glad I am not that gullible.

RuthinVA said...

Vicki said...
One other thing. Michigan has been hit very, very hard by the
Economy. I can not imagine folks
there having the extra money to
waste on this. I just pray the
Sheeple that attend are not taking
food and clothing from their kids to see KON
_______________
I hate to say this and know I will receive a lot of negativity for saying it, but anyway...here goes... I think the type of person mentioned above is exactly the type of person that idolizes Jon and Kate. They are impressed with her rags to riches story with no attention as to how she received her riches. They actually idolize her. I feel certain there will be money spent for tickets that was needed for their own families.

Tess H. said...

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I stumbled across some information that leads me to believe that Lane Home Furnishings has furnished the Gosselin home.

When will everyone wake up?!?!?!

I can't believe with the economy the way it is that companies can keep giving their stuff away. And I can't believe that people continue to spend their hard-earned money on what essentially can be had for free (from a library, from TV).

I'm so ashamed and disgusted by the women out there (because the majority of the fans are female) that can't see through this scam. They must lack something in themselves that brings them to idolize someone that shouldn't be idolized. And what about the parents/guardians who let little kids get caught up in this? Kids should be brought up to live their lives and not to watch someone else live theirs. I know I have told my kids that the Gosselins are not special despite some people making them appear to be.

I've heard so many in the media lately complain about the current culture of entitlement and wonder why people continue to expect handouts. Well, the Gosselins are king and queen of this culture.

Four said...

Random thought...when I first started watching the show that's all there was, a show. Now Kate is everywhere and in to everything. I wonder if anyone ever thought this thing (don't know what to call it) would get so big. The books, DVDs, producers, speaking engagements, spokesperson, just everything. Its like a bad dream I can't wake up from. And the bigger Kate becomes the less she's with her kids who made her famous and rich in the first place.

2/13/2009 7:12 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Well, like the Roman empire.....

Tigerfan said...

"Some days I question my sanity on this - I truly believe the children should be off the air. And yet i continue to see the parents praised by all media. I plain don't get it."

The controversy surrounding child exploitation particularly within that of the entertainment/reality tv industry existed before to the Gosselin tups were born and has been an ongoing topic of increased heated debate since their birth. However in light of the octuplet births the public has yet to see a media voice that is willing to utilize air time to speak on the child exploitation debate. On the one hand you have the media using words such as 'children for profit', 'reality tv in the making' etc when describing the octuplet mom and casting Kate Gosselin as ' an expert' on the topic of discussion. The octuplet mom is ostricized for everthing from her mental instability, negotiating book and reality tv deals, to her alleged cosmetic enhancements but yet there sits the 'new and improved' version of the 'stay at home mom' Kate Gosselin sitting along side the panel of 'experts' being given air time to promote the J & K + 8 reality show that features the Gosselin family residing in their their new 1.3 mil home and her soon to be released book(s). Are these media sources implying a compare and contrast; that there is a right way (Kate Gosselin)and a wrong way (octuplet mom) to go about exploiting HOMs for profit?
Why is the media so eager and ready with guns a blazin to 'call out' the octuplet mom on her 'life choices' including her infertility and the use of medical and scientific intervention to get the end result but are willing to give Kate Gosselin a free pass during interviews. Even though it has been widely suggested that the octuplet mom is following in the foot steps of the likes of Jon and Kate Gosselin. Im sure Kate Gosselin's numerous recent media appearances were merely a means to shamelessly self promote but to include her as an 'expert' contributing absolutely nothing of relevant substance to the topic of discussion IMO merely places her in the position of 'guilt by association' confirming the already existing opinions that the Gosselin children are indeed being exploited for personal and monetary gain! The media needs to stop speculating and assuming about the mother of octuplets and the 'potential' for her to exploit her children and focus their attention on the child exploitation that is taking place in the here and now! Using the J & K + 8 reality show as their example. If the media and public are so deeply concerned about HOM births and their exploitation for profit, then STOP sensationalizing the octuplet mom and promoting Kate Gosselin and utilize all means necessary including air time to advocate concerns for the CHILDREN and put an end to child exploitation!!

JJ said...

I have to say, the only thing about CupcakeGate that bothered me was that Hannah was given her cupcake because "well, she tried" to eat her dinner, but DIDN'T.

Just goes to show Hannie is the favourite once again.

I don't think it was terribly unreasonable to not let the boys have their dessert (though I suppose it's not very nice considering it was their birthday), as "rules are rules" and I do agree that one must eat a portion of their dinner before getting dessert. (we will pretend that the fact that Kate makes up rules when convenient doesn't exist right now.)

However, it was the hypocrisy of allowing Hannah to eat her's when she ate as little as the boys did that really bothered me about the situation.

And Tami:
"I don't think they should considering they have been begging from that public for years. But, people who stare at "celebrities" don't have the best manners either. You hear about celebrities saying people approach them while they eat dinner or go to a restroom, etc, and ask for autographs. I think it's one thing to be a fan, but when someone is just out in public doing normal stuff and not appearing somewhere for the purpose of meeting fans, it's not cool to treat them as anything other than a regular stranger. But that's just me. I'd maybe smile or whatever, but I wouldn't stare or approach act as if I know them personally."

As celebrities, the public pays you. We buy your movies, your albums, the products you endorse, the magazine you're on - you are a public figure and many celebrities say that being famous is a full-time, 24 hour job. That means people WILL approach you when doing "everyday things" like eating at a restaurant, paying for the meal with money your fans gave over to you.

You are someone that many people admire. It's not everyday that people get to meet or be in the presence of a celebrity. Strange behaviour/staring/approaching is a given, especially when you open yourself up to it by leading a very public life.

Just moved said...

"Its really weird that the house is listed 3 times on realtordotcom. Its listed once at $350,000 and then twice at $330,000. Its very strange, the first $330,000 is with a really clean kitchen and the second is the same messy photos........strange."


Not strange at all for this area. For some reason, especially listings in Elizabethtown, the same house is often listed more than once on realtordotcom. When the listing first appeared on the multiple listing, I called the realtor and asked her why they were showing this house without a front elevation. They couldn't give me a reason but recently emailed me to let me know that it was now listed with the front elevation. That is how I discovered that one of the listings showed a reduced price. I am wondering if it has not been reduced but is listed with a typo for the price. If this is the case, heads will roll when Kate finds out. Even at $330,000 it is way overpriced for the neighborhood.

Jen K said...

Tess H said:

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I stumbled across some information that leads me to believe that Lane Home Furnishings has furnished the Gosselin home.

When will everyone wake up?!?!?!


Yep, it's Lane...(or can we call them, "LAME Home Furnishings" from now on?)

http://www.furnituretoday.com/article/48674-Lane_takes_showroom_on_the_road.php

or

http://tinyurl.com/da6j9j

From the article:

Hosting the presentation — on video screens — are Jon and Kate Gosselin, a couple featured on TLC's “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” a TV show about their family of 4½-year-old sextuplets and 8-year-old twin girls.

Among the latest products in Lane's entertainment lineup are its Smart Seating with power adjustments, built-in cupholders, hidden storage and computer tables, and cabinetry designed to give optimum viewing height. Features include storage space for components and electronics, built-in power outlets, subtle cooling vents and selections from Lane's Lifestyles Fabric Collection.


Another article:

http://www.lvrj.com/furniture_and_design/39608382.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/caa255

From that article:

Visitors to the mobile showroom will have the opportunity to see and try out new products from Lane, including pieces from its new Cinema collection that offers leather power recliners with lighted cup holders, ground effect lighting and storage space. Also on display will be a variety of Samsung Touch of Color LCD high-definition televisions.

Additionally, they can view the furniture collection of reality TV family Jon and Kate Gosselin, parents of eight small children, and get a chance to win $2,000 in furniture and other prizes.

Jen K said...

"Lane Plus Jon and Kate"

http://www.laneentertainment.com/jon_kate.cfm

Ashley Furniture...you're looking better every second. I'll be the first to say that we were wrong about Ashley (even though their ad was during J&K).

Lane on the other hand....

Bobbi in NC said...

Well, we knew they would sucker someone into giving them furniture and it looks like it was Lane Furnishngs who fell for their KON...

http://www.laneentertainment.com/
jon_kate.cfm

Since I live near the "furniture capital" of the world, I wonder if Jane and/or Kate will be here for the Spring furniture market...

just moved said...

Tess H said:

"I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I stumbled across some information that leads me to believe that Lane Home Furnishings has furnished the Gosselin home."

Wow, no wonder Lane is in trouble financially if they are so easily duped by these two scam artists. A new Lane store recently opened in our area and was out of business in no time. I did think that their furniture was a much better quality than Ashley so, if they have a designer on duty, maybe Kate's house won't look so bad after all. I still hope that someone is donating bedspreads.






When will everyone wake up?!?!?!

Jen K said...

Lane furniture is often sold in other larger chain stores.

In my area, HOM furniture sells it (sort of ideal...High Order Multiple Furniture! :))

Anyway, we purchased a very expensive sectional from HOM and thank goodness it wasn't Lane. The local HOM store will get an email from me just to let them know they can mail out Lane furniture flyers to me until the cows come home...our new house will not have Lane in it.

Of course, this isn't HOM furniture's fault. They can't decide for their manufacturers what they do for outside promotion, but it seems that if larger chains received complaints about them carrying Lane when they sponsor this sham, their ears might perk up.

2badsosad said...

"I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I stumbled across some information that leads me to believe that Lane Home Furnishings has furnished the Gosselin home."

Wow, no wonder Lane is in trouble financially if they are so easily duped by these two scam artists. A new Lane store recently opened in our area and was out of business in no time. I did think that their furniture was a much better quality than Ashley so, if they have a designer on duty, maybe Kate's house won't look so bad after all. I still hope that someone is donating bedspreads.






When will everyone wake up?!?!?!

IMO, it seems that the stores/brands that are sponsoring J & K Gosselin are the stores/brands that are in dire straits, have closed various locations nationwide, on the verge of bankruptcy, and or have experienced a consistent decrease in consumer buying ie, Kmart, Ann Taylor, The Gap(Old Navy, Banana Republic). Obviously there are reasons why these stores/brands are failing to thrive, especially in today's dwindling economy. Consumers are NOT going to suddenly get the urge to spend $$$ they dont have just because they see Kate Gosselin promoting or wearing the brand or see the brand sponsored on the J & K reality show!!!

Vicki said...

RuthinVA...You are 100% correct and that's why I'm praying.

Mary Cassatt said...

I don't think it was terribly unreasonable to not let the boys have their dessert (though I suppose it's not very nice considering it was their birthday)

It wasn't their actual birthday. It was the week before.

TLCexploitsChildren said...

Well, I'm staying away from both because if Ashley advertises on TLC they are supporting exploitation of all the freak shows and even if they didn't choose to run the ad during Jon and Kate + 8 they still pay TLC and all the freaks by paying to run their ad at all. Lane is worse but Ashley ain't saints either.

nanasez said...

I just saw the preview of the kids painting the playroom, and it really sickened/saddened me. It gave me the sinking realization of just how much the production company is manipulating things to create drama, regardless of the effect it has on the lives of these children.

IMO, the producers know that Kate's craziness is part of the "hook" for this show. So they are actively creating situations to bring out the crazy in her, even if it means that the kids will be the target of her anxious controlling and her meltdowns. That's just sick.

So now their lazy father lives off of them and doesn't work. A nanny lives in and takes care of them most of the time. Dad still manages to work out a couple of hours a day, snowboard, and get in some golf - that's NOT a stay-at-home father. (Someone show me stay-at-home mother who is actively caring for even TWO preschool children and can spend two hours a day at the gym!) Kate is mostly on the road. When she's in town, she's having "spa days" or the kids interact with her in staged situations that are designed to make her a raving lunatic at their expense.

In what universe is this any good for these children? They are like afterthoughts in the lives of two selfish, greedy people.

Confused said...

ThreeFarmers said...
It will be interesting to compare and contrast the impact living on a reality TV show will have on the Duggar and Gosselin children. Only time will tell us, I suppose.

2/12/2009 10:20 PM

Thought you gave up watching the show? Why do you care about comparing and contrasting the 2 shows? If the show is canceled, which seems to be your goal, you won't be able to do thisand shouldn't care about it.

momof2teenboys said...

Tigerfan,

So well said! I'd love for you to send your comment to Dr. Phil and all the other shows that are having Kate on as an expert while bashing the Octomom. You articulated the whole concept beautifully.

ThreeFarmers said...

ThreeFarmers said...
It will be interesting to compare and contrast the impact living on a reality TV show will have on the Duggar and Gosselin children. Only time will tell us, I suppose.

2/12/2009 10:20 PM

Confused said...

Thought you gave up watching the show? Why do you care about comparing and contrasting the 2 shows? If the show is canceled, which seems to be your goal, you won't be able to do thisand shouldn't care about it.


The only shows I've watched are the ones for which I've written a recap.

I didn't say a word about contrasting the two SHOWS. I said it would be interesting to compare and contrast the impact on the CHILDREN. I wish for the exploitation to end specifically because I do care.

How are you or anyone else in a position to identify what I (or anyone else) should or shouldn't care about?

Nellie's Mom said...

MidWest Mom said...
I was in WalMart this morning here in the suburbs of Kansas City and as I was pushing my cart towards the checkout lanes....guess what I overhead on those tv-monitors suspended from the ceilings in the clothing department?

Oh yes, folks,.....apparently J&K has now invaded Wal Mart.


I had to comment on this as well. I went to my local Wal-Mart (I live in Iowa) earlier this week and heard the annoying commercials for Jane and Keight -- I had planned a large stock-up shopping trip, but decided against it when I heard that commercial. Instead, I asked an employee where I could find a store manager and promptly walked up to the manager and their DISTRICT manager (who happened to be on a training visit to the store). I gave them my name, and told the both of them that this would be the last trip into their location-- I'd be happier to spend more money for the same items at another store because of the commercial. I further stated that I would be happy to tell others about Wal-Mart's continued acceptance of both child exploitation and the corruption of the family dynamic which was evident by the use of those commercials. During the conversation that followed, the District Manager told me that he hears this complaint at least 5-10 times a day and then went on to tell me that his wife reads this blog. He did say that he has told his manager about the upset over these in-store commercials, but ultimately, it was a corporate placement.

Corporate placement or not, I took the liberty of faxing the store a copy of my Target receipt ($300+) and a note stating that they had lost my business due to the Jane and Keight commercial.

timetogokon said...

I have to say, the only thing about CupcakeGate that bothered me was that Hannah was given her cupcake because "well, she tried" to eat her dinner, but DIDN'T.

Just goes to show Hannie is the favourite once again.

I don't think it was terribly unreasonable to not let the boys have their dessert (though I suppose it's not very nice considering it was their birthday), as "rules are rules" and I do agree that one must eat a portion of their dinner before getting dessert. (we will pretend that the fact that Kate makes up rules when convenient doesn't exist right now.)

However, it was the hypocrisy of allowing Hannah to eat her's when she ate as little as the boys did that really bothered me about the situation.

--------------

This episode bothered me plenty.

Kate was such a biatch the entire time - how about showing heartfelt gratitude that the owners of the bakery opened on a Sunday just for your family?

Yes, rules are rules, but when Kate constantly changes her "rules" to suit her or the situation at hand those "rules" are just another way for her to exercise her need to control everything.

professional Mom said...

Yes, I think the Duggar's would be a perfect wife swap. Amy Roloff can get harsh in the way she talks to her kids too. The Gosselin children should get to experience have the calming, quiet nurturing parenting skills of Michelle Duggar. They need to learn that parents are not always high strung and angry.

I would love to see Mrs. Duggar talk to Mady Gosselin! I would love to see how Michelle would handle kids that misbehave! Would she raise her voice?

And maybe Kate would learn how to handle herself. She could see self control modelled and learn that she might possibly be wrong in the way she barks orders to her husband and children. Kate needs to attend the Duggar school of manners!

GrammyPie said...

Whether it was their actual birthday, or just another day of the week, it was just plain mean to let the girls have dessert, and not the boys.The girls ate just as little as the boys, and the boys worked so hard on their cupcakes. Kate is a mean uncaring mother.

timetogokon said...

It wasn't their actual birthday. It was the week before.

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For Pete's sake, stop with the irrelevant semantics. The episode was titled "The Tups Turn 4" and KON talked about taking them to decorate cupcakes for their birthday.

Amy C said...

Yup!!! They were in the Leavenworth Walmart, too!!!!!! YUCK!! She better not even THINK about Target!!!!!!!!

Professional Mom said...

We now call the show, "Snotty Kate plus Eight!"...my kids thought it up!

Anyway, we just watched the rerun of the episode of "embarrassing moments"....I am so sad. So sad. Kate really, really, can not see that she is WRONG! She loses control of herself, and blames Jon for it. Honey, other people can not "make" you behave in anyway. YOU are the only one in charge of your emotions, and you had better stop telling your fine husband that he is "childish" and "immature" when you are the one having a temper tantram!

Incredible! I was amazed. Really. Kate screetches across stores, and then has the gall to tell Jon he was the one being thoughtless and immature!

Kate. YOU WERE WRONG! YOU WERE WRONG! YOU could have found another way of handling the situation. You could have remained calm, and sent Cara over to her daddy to tell him where you were.

While dressing the children, why do you think that you are the ONLY one who is stressed, and YOUR feelings of stress should be catered to?

What if you would have asked Jon, nicely...in your 'nice voice' how you could help him? Why do you get to bite his head off, in a nasty voice, and then he is suppose to be "understanding" and "thoughtful", and while he dresses the kids, ask you "if you need help?"

I pray that the Lord would convict you of your selfish, self centered behavior and that you would repent. How are you a Christian, if you do not hand your emotions over to the Lord? He can change you, and he wants to.

We can Do It said...

During the conversation that followed, the District Manager told me that he hears this complaint at least 5-10 times a day and then went on to tell me that his wife reads this blog.

Please post his name, I'd like to contact him today. If you can't recall his name, post which store it was/which day and I will call the store and find out which district manager was there that day. I used to work there so I know the info is readily available. If a massive number of us contact him and his wife is posting among us, we can get him on our side and it will be a foot in the door to stop this outrage.

timetogokon said...

Nellie's mom-

Good for you.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Whether their birthday was that day or the week before the tups were told that they were going to the bakery to make their birthday cupcakes and that they could take them home and eat them. It would not have been the end of the world if they hardly ate their dinner and would have been allowed to eat a damn cupcake. My new name for Kate is the WICKED WITCH OF THE EAST.

MayDay said...

Reading Professional Mom's post about an alternative suggestion beside screeching across the store prompted me to wonder...why doesn't Jon and Kate just use their cell phones or walk talks to communicate with each other in the store? When my family is out shopping together, everyone is instructed to have their cell phones on and in hearing reach just in case one of us needs to get in touch with the other. Especially when we are a large group and the adults separate. It is as simple as that. Kate could not have figured that out instead of screaming across the store, the Crayola Factory, the pumpkin patch and wherever else?

Wynema said...

They make life harder then it should be. This coat for school and that coat for play.Ice cream for dinner and ice cream melt downs. Treats allowed one day and not allowed another day. Indoor clothes and outdoor clothes. Shoes for this and shoes for that. Must have naps when the room was being carpeted and omit the naps on another day. Kates rules are like her hair. Flat in the front and extravagant in the back.Very inconsistant.

Arabella said...

Among the normal crap that comes out of kate's "logic", regarding the eating and "rules" she lays down my favorite was when she was on her high horse saying "I don't believe in making kids eat past when their full". So her logic was they didn't have to clean their plate, but then she tacks on as long as they eat their fruit, veggies, most of their meat and whatever else dish. It's like, HELLO that's pretty much cleaning your plate.

I agree about the cupcake incident, it's a certain type of beyotch that lies to their kids about being able to have their BIRTHDAY cupcake, regardless of the day but then to say no to some kids while allowing others (hannah) to have theirs when she did the same as the ones who couldn't have theirs...that's what makes Kate the top of the line beytoch in my opinion.

Mark my words in a little while we'll be hearing that they found out hannah has an especially small stomach so she can't finish her meals, or hardly touch them but can load up on their "organic" desserts.

I just flat out do not believe that hannah has migranes. We've seen what kind of people jon and kate are, how they are such users and flat out jerks, what's it to them to lie to the "silly people" who watch their show to justify hannah getting her own room. More then likely as some have said it's a cover to keep the cat in the bag that J&K are no longer bed buddies.

Seeing the previews for this next week with J&K "shopping" for new textiles and such, Kate is being her ususal snarly self and jon again looks like he's ready to cut her.

KidsAreCute said...

Exhausted said...
Thinking about some of the -gate episodes, it makes me think of Kate getting so irritated over stains on clothing. I have two very young children, and I can't think of many things they've gotten on their clothes that didn't wash out (even ice cream that had blue food coloring in it!).

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I’m not sure how much of Kate’s obsession w/ laundry and stains has to do w/ her OCD, or her intent to become a spokesperson for Tide, etc. From the beginning, it never made sense that someone w/ more important things to think about (8 kids, their safety, keeping them happy, fed and clean) would worry so much about a few stains on clothing. Whenever the issues of stains/laundry/clothing/etc. came up, she would get up on her soap box (no pun intended) about how she is too practical to throw clothes away, how long it takes her to get stains out, etc.. More importantly, the editors of the show would actually give her the airtime to do so. Never, mind that we later learned the clothing was free, and that possibly some of the clothing was later sold at consignment stores, she continued to sing this song. There were several episodes where she would launch into the stains/laundry speech.

I suspect all along Kate was angling to become a spokesperson for a laundry manufacturer (or an organic food spokesperson, whichever paid more).

Bottom line, most parents don’t obsess about laundry stains. They spend their time worrying about more important things.

IMO said...

I think that Kon PR firm is very clever. The more they send Kate out to speak out against the octuplets mom, the more the public will think that their is not child exploitation going on with Kon. When actuality the situation are more alike than different both families are using their children for material gain. I think the more people keep bringing up the simialrites the more heat Kon will feel. The women who are sheeple but condemn octomom, are really speaking out Kon too. All the things that octomom is doing, the Gosselins have done in the past or are doing now. The PR firm for octomom is using Kons tactics as a blueprint to make gains for octomom. But the PR firm for Kon is excellent, I just hope this magazine article comes out soon so people can start to see the correlation between octomom and kon. I hope the article creates a big splash instead of just a little ripple like all the other articles. The goal is for them to lose just one sponsor from this article and I think the rest will soon follow. Let them put their own children through college, and their marriage is a sham.

TEK said...

My take on a Duggar/Gosselin/Roloff wife swap. I think this is how it should go...

Amy/Jon
Amy can teach Jon a valuable lesson on acceptance of his children, to accept them the way they are and not make fun of them during their weakest moments (especially with the boys)She should first hand about being accepted and giving acceptance.
Michelle/Matt
Michelle could teach Matt a few things about being frugal and not thinking everything has to be so extravagant. She would be the one that would be comfortable with his disability, showing him caring and kindness. Kate would just make fun of the way he walks or talks. (you know it is true)
Kate/Jim Bob
Jim Bob could teach Kate how a wife should treat her husband, and in return how a husband should treat his wife. He could also teach her how to respect her children, appreciate their values and teach her how to teach them to work together but gain independence at the same time. He also could teach her about how people who are Christian live and treat each other.

mirele said...

Kate's going to be at the Frauenthal Theatre in Muskegon on Wednesday, May 13. Here's some info on the Frauenthal Theatre that I was able to pull from their website.

It seats 1726.

Non-profits can rent it for a performance for $1725.

For-profits have to pay $1725 plus 6% of gross ticket sales.

Unfortunately, the Frauenthal Theatre doesn't break down the seats by the number in the Gold Circle, etc. So, it'd be hard to figure out what the "take" might be from an event like this.

However, that didn't stop me from maybe getting a ballpark figure. The cheapest adult seats are $35. If K were to pack the place out at $35, at the lowest cost, the take would be $60,410. The theatre would take $1,725 plus $3,625, for a total of $5,350. That would leave a whopping $55,060 for the promoter and K. So K gets her $25K appearance fee and the promoter (which may be the theatre, I don't see a presented by anywhere) gets $30K.

All of this assumes, of course, that the theatre sells out. I don't know if it would. I don't know what would happen if, say, only 800 seats sold. Would K cancel? It would depend on the contract.

Of course, this is all speculation, but seriously, if I had just one $25K payday a month, I'd be doing pretty well.

MayDay said...

mirele
This might be the information you were looking for:
Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Frauenthal Center presents Kate Gosselin “Multiple Blessings: Surviving to Thriving with Twins and Sextuplets”
Frauenthal Theater 7:30 pm Tickets: $100.00 Gold Circle Seating (includes pre-show Meet & Greet and a copy of Kate’s book); $45.00, $40.00, $35.00 Reserved Seating; $20.00 Children 12 & Under (limited quantity, not valid for Gold Circle Seating). First 500 Show Tickets purchased (excluding Gold Circle) include after-performance book signing. On Sale beginning February 20, 2009 at 11 am. Star Tickets 1-800-585-3737 or Frauenthal Box Office: M-F 11am-6pm

PM said...

We just dumped a set of Lane reclining chair,love seat,and couch. After 3 1/2 years the arms loosened and fell off the recliner. The foot rest that comes up when you recline on the couch and love seat drooped when in the down position so there was a large gap between the foot rest and cushion. The cord that made the love seat recline broke 3x. The arms of both the love seat and couch flattened out after about a year to where you could feel the wood. This was not a cheap (money wise) set of furniture. All this without having young children using it. Lane is complete junk. I would never again purchase it.

I hope they enjoy their crappy free furniture. We all need to write Lane and tell them this PR move backfired BIG TIME!

ShisoandRice said...

Lane closing its eight Philadelphia-area stores
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http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:FBN
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Furniture Brands International Announces Reorganization of The Lane Company
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Furniture Brands International Announces Closing of Four Manufacturing Plants
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Thomasville Furniture's parent company is closing 10 Thomasville and Lane stores in Texas, Arizona and California, according to a Furniture/Today report.
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Furniture Brands International is planning to shutdown its Lane case goods plants in Virginia in 2001. Lane's wood products will be replaced with imports.
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2 Lane Home Furnishings stores in Central Florida close

chesterctymom said...

Think of how much money all of the different sponsors Kon has lined up are making off of the children. I hold them as responsible as Kon for the humiliating situations the kids are put in (think of all of the 'gates'). The sponsors (most recently Lane furniture) will be as guilty for any problems the kids may have in the future.

RuthinVA said...

Tangerine Tanya said...
Whether their birthday was that day or the week before the tups were told that they were going to the bakery to make their birthday cupcakes and that they could take them home and eat them. It would not have been the end of the world if they hardly ate their dinner and would have been allowed to eat a damn cupcake. My new name for Kate is the WICKED WITCH OF THE EAST.

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But they can have ice cream for dinner, remember that episode, go figure. The women is dumber than a box of rocks and has no logic. She is constantly contradicting herself and has many problems keeping the stories and lies straight. She begs to the point WE ARE EMBARRASSED. She has no manners and has yet to learn everything she says and does affects others. She is rude to the people that idolize her and in turn is teaching her children to be rude. She throws away family and friends all in the name of Kate and the mighty dollar. As if that isn't bad enough, she blames it all on God. She is a strange person and in my opinion not one worth knowing.

Vicki said...

I agree with Chesterctymom about all the companies profiting off
KON. I refuse to enter a Barnes and Noble Bookstore. Having wanted a new cookbook I went on
EBAY and found it. Also bought one at Christmas time for my
husband off EBAY. I just wish Keight and Jane would go away so
those of us who see them for what they are could get back to normal--
I know there will never be a real normal though because I know my eyes have been opened so much to what I see on TV and now I find myself viewing and questioning what I am watching and I trust I will make better decisions in the future what "entertainment" is.

ShisoandRice said...

YEPPER!

Lane sure is desperate.

Sources say 400-500 Lane jobs in Lee County will be eliminated, but Lane and Furniture Brands officials did not provide additional information. Lane has plants in Belden, Saltillo and Verona and as of May 2007 employed 2,800 people.
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ST. LOUIS-Furniture Brands International, responding to increasing imports of wood furniture, is shutting down three factories, laying off more than 1,000 workers and merging two of its operating companies.

Action Industries and The Lane Co. will merge as Lane Furniture Industries, with headquarters in Tupelo, Miss., home of Action. The Lane Co. will close three plants and its headquarters in Alta Vista, Va.

Lanes parent company's shares are at $2.10 with a 4 cent dividend!

Just moved said...

I am having such a bad day. First the news of Lane furniture providing those creeps with furniture for their new digs. Then I ran into Barnes & Noble today to find that Kate will be doing a book signing on February 22. Today was the first time I actually saw the cover of Multiple Blessings and was surprised to see that Beth's name was in large letters - just as big as Kate and Jon's. Very surprised to learn that her majesty would allow that. Anyway, I have given up Good Housekeeping, Tide and now I guess I will be boycotting Barnes & Noble. KATE has really ruined my life!

Its A Good Thing said...

Sad to say I have seen ads for J&K in my Wal-Mart as well. And I live in CANADA! @@ They are so annoying.

JBinVA said...

To Just Moved
I don't agree with how they have acted lately, even before the new house, but mark my words I will not let her affect my life. I shop at Target and a grocery store that is only in VA and other websites have books way cheaper then B& N does even with a sale! I refuse to let that family drag on me. My point is this family will not affect what I buy since I really do not do Walmart or B & N anyway. You know this almost one of those darn if you do darn if you don't becuase some of the P&G products are really good.

Tigerfan said...

I think that Kon PR firm is very clever. The more they send Kate out to speak out against the octuplets mom, the more the public will think that their is not child exploitation going on with Kon. When actuality the situation are more alike than different both families are using their children for material gain. I think the more people keep bringing up the simialrites the more heat Kon will feel. The women who are sheeple but condemn octomom, are really speaking out Kon too. All the things that octomom is doing, the Gosselins have done in the past or are doing now. The PR firm for octomom is using Kons tactics as a blueprint to make gains for octomom. But the PR firm for Kon is excellent, I just hope this magazine article comes out soon so people can start to see the correlation between octomom and kon. I hope the article creates a big splash instead of just a little ripple like all the other articles. The goal is for them to lose just one sponsor from this article and I think the rest will soon follow. Let them put their own children through college, and their marriage is a sham.

I watched a celebrity gossip program last night on MSNBC. The majority of the one hour program focused on 'did she' or 'didnt she' of Nadaya's cosmetic surgery.
Even going so far as to question her competance as a parent because of her alleged fasination with Angelia Jolie; suggesting that Nadaya took food out of her children's (prior to the octuplets) mouths to fund her cosmetic surgery. It has only been a result of the birth of the octuplets and the manner in which they were conceived that the public and media are even expressing an opinion, negative or otherwise, with respect to Nadaya Sulemen. Prior to all media sensationalism over Nadaya Sulmen, the public could have given a rat's ass about her life, her prior 6 children, and her cosmetic surgery and fasination with Angelia Jolie. From the footage provided of Nadaya at home with her other 6 children, by all appearances, the children 'appeared HAPPY AND HEALTHY' so going by the standards of some, there is NO evidence of incompetant parenting or exploitation.
I dare the media to dedicate an hour of air time calling Jon Gosselin out on his NEED for hair plugs and a ski condo in Utah as well as a split screen of Kate's appearance/dress post the tups birth and present and how J & K accomplished going from worrying about 'food on the table and a roof over their head' to living in a 1.3 million dollar multi acre home! Why waste time making assumptions and speculating about the what ifs and maybes of Nadaya Sulemen when you only have to look so far as J & K Gosselin as the prime example of how to exploit and sell your children for personal and monetary gain. Nadaya Sulemen obviously had her cosmetic enhancements prior to the birth of her octuplets, Jon Gosselin got his hair plugs (and much much more) as a RESULT of the birth of his sextuplets. IMO, the media are focusing way too much time and attention on the wrong parent of HOM to make their point!

JJ21685 said...

I was just wondering, can anyone tell me where i can find a list of upcoming jon and kate events?

Casey and Smudge said...

Oh no, not Wal-Mart Canada! Mine doesn't have televisions (not a superstore yet) but I guess I'll have to drive across town to Zellers.

Vicki said...

Can we have a discussion on why
Keight and Octomom are viewed so
differantly in the Media? I don't
get it and Tigerfan really has me wondering what IS really going on.
Why is KON so untouchable? I view them both the same.

4thekids said...

Kate came to Indianapolis last week and I heard that she was pretty bland, like a subtle version of her hissy fit attitude during the interview for the Woods episode.

I also saw pictures and can attest to what people have been saying: Kate is REALLY skinny now. Though she's never been overweight on the show, she was never rocking this perfect figure like she is now. (I guess when you eat airplane portions all the time because of your frequent traveling, you'll start to shed the pounds.) She had her designer duds on, killer high heels, oh, and security detail all around her. *Sigh* This woman is living the glamorous life. Isn't it great to know that Kate's looking more and more put together while her family is falling (and often living) apart?

Anyway, if it wasn't for the bad hair and spray tanner, she really would be absolutely stunning. Too bad she's not like that on the inside. What's the word Kate always uses for Mady?... oh, yeah...UGLY. That's what Kate is on the inside.

There's my $0.02. Sorry for the utter randomness of this post, it's been a long week.

Maggie said...

Vicky, you can discuss Kate and Octomom here, but for Octomom talk don't forget to go to the site that we set up for that, SWOP, link on our sidebar. Thanks.

Vicki said...

Ok, Thanks Maggie. I have visited
the other site but I have to tell you that Photo of Octomom creeped me out. I don't know if I can go back. I'll try to be brave.

Lisak said...

We also bought a piece of Lane furniture(recliner) and it was all to pieces within 6 months. We then went to Ashley and it has been the best. I don't think perfectionist Kate will be satisfied at all.

Anonymomma said...

I also saw pictures and can attest to what people have been saying: Kate is REALLY skinny now. Though she's never been overweight on the show, she was never rocking this perfect figure like she is now.
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Considering the classic symptoms of PCOS, and how it correlates with the body's ability to metabolize, specifically glucose, kinda odd huh?

Amy said...

Vicki Said...Can we have a discussion on why
Keight and Octomom are viewed so
differantly in the Media? I don't
get it and Tigerfan really has me wondering what IS really going on.
Why is KON so untouchable? I view them both the same.
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Me too. Why with everything we have learned and know has Kate become an expert on these shows (Dr Phil, Larry Kings, etc). Octo-Mom is vilified and Kate is glorified. What oh what is going on?

Lisak said...

I just saw the furniture Jon and Kate picked out on the Lane website. It must be nice to just hint around that you have no furniture and bam it suddenly appears like magic. These people really have no shame. I don't know if the website has been added or not, but I will add it again just in case.
http://laneentertainment.com/jon_kate.cfm

Denise said...

Jon has can canceled his appearance at Roswell Methodist.
Any guesses why? I'm thinking he can't stand her sight of her anymore.

We have just been notified that Jon Gosselin will not be able to appear at Roswell UMC on Friday, March 20, 2009. (A reason as to why has not been given.) Kate Gosselin will still be in attendance. If this changes your willingness to come to the event, you must return your tickets via your point of purchase before March 2nd for a refund of the ticket cost. (Service fee is a non-refundable fee.)

Anonymomma said...

I wonder how the soon to be former employees of Lane furniture feel about losing their jobs with a company that just gave two very wealthy people free furniture?

I also wonder how it would be possible to contact any of these employees to ask them this...

alana said...

TO "It's bulgogi, not pulgogi, dang it."

GREAT comment; could you elaborate?

You said Yawn may be an "Asiaphile"; did you mean "Asiaphobe? If not, could you explain what you meant?

It was SO insightful (and brave!) of you to bring this up.
IMO, Yawn has long felt insecure about his "heritage."
And Take's deceitful wish "to be Korean" is a classic example of another ploy to nab Yawn into a marriage of konvenience.

While I have Take on my mind, I'd love to know how long it took her to realize her job as a nurse was NOT going to lead to marriage with a rich doctor! Or, how many minutes did it take one of those prize-M.D.s to size Take up as an over-eager-phony-nut-job?
BTW, I think she knew exactly what she was doing when she picked Yawn: she had to find a mate who was vulnerable, meaning zero self-esteem and lacking direction.
The fact that Yawn already had a girlfriend was a dumb move on her part, IMO. Any person dumb enough to be "stolen away", is capable of being stolen away AGAIN.

It's just a matter of time and enough money!

alana said...

TO "Nellie's Mom":

Touche' and good for you! I loved your story about the managers in Wal-Mart; talk about following through - wow!
My favorite part was the faxing of the $300.00 TARGET receipt. It took a lot of integrity and initiative for you to get through that day. You genuinely care about what we're trying to do here, when you change your entire day to follow up on a mission like that.
Thank you, from me!

alana said...

Vicki, Anonymomma, Amy:

I'll go if you'll go! (to SWoP)

All of you asked the question I'm embarrassed to admit I've been too chicken to ask - I didn't want a backlash of negative flack. I've even stopped posting on another site since the comments about Octomom,though most are true,are SO cruel.I feel like mine wouldn't "measure up", or down... I just can't muster up that level of zero empathy and unfairness for Nadya Suleman; IMO, she desperately needs psychological help and someone needs to care for and LOVE those children while she gets it. It might even be true that it would be in their best interest for some of the kids to NOT ever go home again.
But for Take to be put on a pedestal when she wrote the book on how to scheme and scam using your uterus, and Octomom is condemned to hell; I don't get it.


Tigerfan:

What an eloquent essay!

Your thoughts are so succint - I had to read some of it twice because your words went over my head - there was no b.s. or fluff as you drew your conclusions. I hope you will send the piece to Dr. Shrill and all other media types who have involved themselves in this UGLY mess of using children for profit.
I thought you wrote a beautiful piece. Thank you!

laura linger said...

"Octo-Mom is vilified and Kate is glorified. What oh what is going on?"

Here is what I think:

1. Nadya Suleman is viewed as a "foreigner," whereas Kate is Aryan-looking.

2. Jon and Kate have worked the Jay-sus angle from Day One and continues to do so to this day.

3. Nadya Suleman is seen as "welfare trash," despite Katie Irene having her hand out for freebies and perks from the State of Pennsylvania and elsewhere since Day One.

4. The media pundits have decided to attack Nadya Suleman; whereas Katie Irene is inexplicably a media darling, for the most part.

5. Nadya Suleman is not married, and Katie Irene is. It doesn't matter to Idiot Americans, apparently, that the Gosselin marriage is appalling. The rings are on the fingers; that's enough for them.

Dirty Laundry said...

I missed the part of the show when Kate talks about the lobotanist. I might have that word wrong because my brain isn't wired that way. But I'm just glad Kate made that appointment.

rav said...

She had her designer duds on, killer high heels, oh, and security detail all around her. *Sigh* This woman is living the glamorous life. Isn't it great to know that Kate's looking more and more put together while her family is falling (and often living) apart?
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I am not sure if this a serious comment but she looks like any other suburban mother. And hss that typical middle class wardrobe of many in middle america. She is a wanabe. Being skinny and having a knock out figure are not the same. She has no sense of sytle.
IMO

Geegee said...

I have to say, when I saw the empty new house, I figured there'd be a freebie furniture supplier in a future episode. Maybe the quality coming from Lane over the years has changed, but my parents got Lane living room furniture when I was in high school and I've inherited some of it (I'm now middle-aged); it's held up well and was sturdy, good wood. For people who have so little furniture, I would think Jon and Kate would be appreciative of anything. I'm jealous; I can't imagine what it's like to pick out nice, new furniture for a nice, new house. Been married twenty years and have a mishmash of hand-me-downs, make-it-from-a-box-from-Target; a bunch of cheap stuff. (Who's got money for furniture when it's all you can do to make the mortgage payment, and that's when we were lucky enough to finally own a home.) I did get a yearned-for china hutch when Montgomery Ward was going out of business; it was significantly damaged and on a close-out for $300 but we were able to borrow a truck to transport it and my husband was able to fix it, sort of. Look, the Gosselins aren't dumb. I think they're trying to accumulate as much free stuff as they can while the iron is still hot (better hurry!). I believe she really does use coupons and I betcha they paid cash for that house. I think they're stockpiling for the future when the freebies are gone, so that's just plain smart (survival). It would be really hard to support a family of ten in this day and age (we have trouble with just TWO!)! Kate said something once onscreen about hearing from fans who said they wanted to keep up with all the Gosselin kids over the coming years (like she was promoting the idea for sequels and specials). I think it's wishful thinking on her part. People have a tendency to move on, especially if they got turned off. Fascination with multiples in America is waning in tough economic times of hardship and sacrifice...putting dreams aside and living a pared-down life. Excess, as in Gosselin freebies, is viewed negatively. (A few freebies were nice and heartwarming, but then it seemed to get out of control and become distasteful.) All of a sudden, it's the old haves and haves-not. Doesn't leave me with a good feeling. I've done a complete turnaround on this show; it's lost what initially seemed fresh and innocent and pleasurable. I feel like a total wishy-washy on it, because I've previously complimented Jon and Kate and the show, not even all that long ago. I try to think back, and isolate when (and how fast) it changed for me??!! What the heck happened? Something went from sweet to sour on this TLC series, that's for sure. I feel so let down.

MayDay said...

Don't know if this speaking engagement has already been posted but if not here goes...
Jon and Kate Gosselin, are going to be speaking at the Gateway Church in Parkesburg on Feb. 22. If you are interested in attending and would like additional information call the church RESERVATIONS REQUIRED
Also it did not take Roswell Methodist to change the picture from Jon and Kate to just Kate. You can tell that her picture is a professional head shot. I hope who ever is keeping a list of all their engagements and time away has this one on the list.

Miranda said...

I try to think back, and isolate when (and how fast) it changed for me??!! What the heck happened? Something went from sweet to sour on this TLC series, that's for sure. I feel so let down.

You are not alone! Before I ever ONCE knew this website existed, I thought it was "just me". Something was different about this family, something had changed. When you look back on it, it happened, one thing at a time, and all of a sudden, Kate thinks she's entitled to be a millionaire, AND get everything in life for FREE, all the while treating her meal tickets like distant relatives.

The woman is never home. "I'm so grateful to be a stay-at-home mom".

Delusional.

I was on the phone with my mom, and she asked if I saw J&K+8 lately. She said "how can you NOT watch it, it's like a trainwreck, I can't look away" which made me giggle. I didn't tell her about this website, I just wanted her fresh opinion I guess. She said:
"I used to think Kate was such a great mom, but I don't anymore. She's turned into some kind of DIVA."

That mother of mine; so smart!

mollybloom said...

Ugh, I actually own some Lane furniture. I just wrote the company to explain why I won't ever consider buying any more.

Jon's and Kate's dopey botoxed mugs are absolutely everywhere these days. Is there a product category they haven't shilled for yet? Is it possible that they will become overexposed? That would be perfect schadenfreude since they have so overexposed their children.

Tami said...

I was on the phone with my mom, and she asked if I saw J&K+8 lately. She said "how can you NOT watch it, it's like a trainwreck, I can't look away" which made me giggle. I didn't tell her about this website, I just wanted her fresh opinion I guess. She said:
"I used to think Kate was such a great mom, but I don't anymore. She's turned into some kind of DIVA."
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My 10 year old son was even commenting about her today. I was telling him how I had over-planned the day and now that I have an extra kid (newborn) it's not easy to just get everything done. So then it turned into a discussion about how the Duggars do it (to which I added they do have a tv crew helping out) and then he wondered how much help the Gosselins have. I told him and he asked then why does she pretend to cook. I told him about the cookbook she planned and he said, "What's next? She doesn't know how to go to the bathroom so they do it for her? Or she doesn't know how to eat so they put it in her mouth and help her chew?" Hee Hee. Even kids know what a joke she is.

Aeris said...

Denise said:
Jon has can canceled his appearance at Roswell Methodist.
Any guesses why? I'm thinking he can't stand her sight of her anymore.
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We have just been notified that Jon Gosselin will not be able to appear at Roswell UMC on Friday, March 20, 2009. (A reason as to why has not been given.) Kate Gosselin will still be in attendance. If this changes your willingness to come to the event, you must return your tickets via your point of purchase before March 2nd for a refund of the ticket cost. (Service fee is a non-refundable fee.)


The KONs have done this at least a half dozen times so far. They are either:

- getting a higher paycheck for both of them agreeing to appear. Once the deal is locked in, one of the two bails out a few weeks before the appearance. Think about it, they can easily say they have "family reasons" and get away with it.

- another speaking/appearance opportunity pops up for the same day, so they split ways and collect more money. Apparently, these two are extremely comfortable being apart, so why not collect two paychecks instead of one?

If they truly believe they are working REAL jobs, then they are extremely unprofessional and unreliable.

Tami said...

Did anyone bother to inform Walmart that Kate refused to take any of their clothes for her tups as newborns? Or that she held out for Gymboree crap?

PK said...

I don't get it.
What are they speaking about at all these appearances? Do they have a set script?
What is the draw?

Anonymomma said...

Kinda random but, on the ABC news website, there's an article about how the OctoMom's publicist dropped her. Whenever anyone writes a comment under the article that even remotely mentions the Gosselins and their amazing smilarities to the Suleman situation, poof! It very quickly gets taken off. Like within a matter of minutes. Nice huh?

Someone's PR (that's public relations) people are working overtime.

So Sad... said...

I would not be surprised if the Gosselins' head over to Korea to make money off their kids when the gravy train slows down.I'm not trying to be funny, I've been thinking about this for some time now.They have said that they want to go there.I bet they would be more than welcome.Any way,goodnight all!!!

AnonymousPest said...

I wonder if Kon's Congressman/woman made sure that they'd benefit from the stimulus plan because Kate's got to have more Spa Days.

AnnieD said...

Tigerfan, my sentiments exactly! I am no fan of Suleman’s actions, but the babies are here and they are the real victims of this media bad-mouthing. This is the same ballless media that has exalted Kate Gosselin. An article in the Denver Parenting Issues examiner (http://www.examiner.com/x-2507-Denver-Parenting-Issues-Examiner~y2009m2d12-Copy-Cat-Mom) criticised Suleman and went so far as to say “The Gosselin family and the Duggar family were hard-working families before, during, and after they had their children. They understood the value of a dollar and knew how to be loving.” I couldn’t resist, I had to comment.

The same media that will ensure Suleman struggles for the next 18 years is propelling the Gosselins into more stardom and incredible wealth. The media needs a hero and a villain, and for some reason have chosen to cast Suleman and the Gosselins into these roles (with the commendable exception of the The Soup, and Opie and Anthony).

For this reason, I fully support the goals of GWOP, but I cannot endorse SWOP, as much as I agree with the sentiment. There is a risk that it is adding wind to the sails of KON.

Kate Gosselin and Suleman are both pathological liars. But Kate Gosselin is a scheming, self-absorbed, narcissist. She gets away with it because she’s pretty, her kids are cute, she appeals to Christian values, she’s well-spoken and she is very, very cunning.

Suleman is less attractive (I know it’s a matter of opinion), her kids have issues (three may be disabled), and she is clueless in selling herself. Her life is such a tragedy. She didn’t dump her mother; her mother dumped her. KON;s church embraced her and got dumped on. Suleman’s church has outright said it has never and will not support her. While KON is cashing cheques form K-mart, GAP, Juicie Fuice and on etc., the one pathetic donation given to Suleman from Prince Lionheart ($600) resulted in a huge backlash against the company. I don’t care what she’s guilty of, my heart goes out to her.

Four said...

"Octo-Mom is vilified and Kate is glorified. What oh what is going on?"

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What is going on is that Octo-mom was caught early in her lies and on national TV. Her parents, esp. her mom, helped fuel the fire. Nadya is such a classic case of a "pyscho" even the media couldn't miss it.

Jon and Kate? They were much more careful in crafting their facade of "normalcy." Read some other blogs. There are still folks out there that think Jon works IT, that Jon and Kate NEVER had any help, that Jon and Kate pay for everything and those kids are danged expensive, and well, we're all jealous haters because they get some much needed perks. No one has ever really put it all down at once exactly what Jon and Kate did from the beginning.The free clothing (resold), the free diapers, the free food and parking space (seriously), the free strollers, carseats, high chairs, cribs and toys. And when you try to point this out to the sheeple, well, frankly they stick their fingers in their ears and start going "baaaaa!"

Every person on this blog that has the audacity to point out inconsistencies, lies, misdirection or examples of bad parenting is labeled a nit picking jealous hater that should just leave this "real" family alone. Ugh. If that is really how the majority of the fans interact with their kids I should go back to school and get a counseling degree, there will be tons of money to be made.

Jon and Kate slowly worked their way up to being major exploiters. Nadya Suleman's only mistake (other than obviously being psycho) was tipping her hand at the very beginning.

Amy Love said...

Quick question could someone please post how to highlight [bold] when posting?

Kate Gosselin is sooo dramatic.
If she would put 1/2 as much effort in helping in her communitie as she does bitching about 'Jon' the world would be a better place. TLC is showing us everyweek a marriage in trouble and kids on the verge of nervous breakdowns. A couple of months ago I would have said 'Mady' on the verge but after the walk in the woods show I think all the kids need help. With the parents marriage dissolving and the pressures of the show the strain is showing on all the kids.

4thekids said...

Anonymomma said...
Considering the classic symptoms of PCOS, and how it correlates with the body's ability to metabolize, specifically glucose, kinda odd huh?

As much as I don't like Kate, I really dislike it when her PCOS is called into question. I am one of four in my immediate family that has the disorder, so I know a thing or two about it. It is a doctor's nightmare because it's not a disease or disorder, technically it is a list of variable symptoms. Some women have thyroid problems, others don't. Some have weight problems, others don't. Some have hair loss, hirsutism, infertility, acne, or anovulation, and so many more symptoms, while other women simply don't.

Victoria Beckham is a good example: thin as a rail and conceived 3 kids (we can only presume naturally), and yet she has PCOS.

We can hate on Kate for her parenting (or lack thereof), her "job", or her money-grubbing. But for all of the women out there suffering from PCOS, let's not call into question this 'disorder' that is afflicting more and more women, is not yet fully understood, and does not have a cure.

Thanks. By the way, this is in no way a personal attack, Anonymomma. Just wanted to put the facts out there for everybody :-)

BostonBean said...

Miss Brown Betti --You are right about the jackets.
Let's face it. There is hardly ANY furniture in the house. Now, as parents, wouldn't you at least hang up clothing the first few days?
Everyone ELSE does that when they move, even though they are also trying to hang curtains and do other things.
All of their clothes should be ready. There is no excuse.

This is their attempt at trying to stretch out something to make another weekly series.

LKG said...

Here is a link to a blog post about Kate being thrifty.

http://feeds.b5media.com/~r/b5media/SimplyThrifty/~3/0eH3haauQUM/

The blog post accepts comments so I of course pointed out that it is easy to be thrifty when you receive freebies constantly.

wicked witch lives in wernersville said...

What I find funny is: There is a Barnes and Noble about 5 miles from the new Konpound. I am sure PR has made sure they will never appear there since there will probably be a riot..either that or no one from Berks County will show up..

avoidlane said...

I just wrote Lane.. I will never buy from them again! That is I bought my furniture..
idiot me

Cell said...

I have a cellphone pic. Any tips on how to share them here?

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Easy. You can email it to yourself from the phone, or use a USB connection and upload it.

I can't wait to see your pic.

chesterctymom said...

If thats Parksburg Pa, I'm pretty close...

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