Does P&G Have Trouble Counting?

The latest news on P&G continuing with Kate Gosselin.

99 comments:

Go Away J&K said...

Wow, it would appear so! Maybe multiply that by 10 or even 100!!

Tami said...

They really can't count! I just left a message.

Ms.Peach said...

I just emailed P&G and will do the same with KMart.

Ravello said...

I guess P&G did not read the email's I sent them and they were not complimentary.
I will ask again. P&G- why are you associating your fine company with these con artists?
Since I learned of your affiliation with KON, I have made a conscious effort not to purchase P&G products. I also throw away the monthly P&G coupon section that appears in our Sunday paper, I do not clip these coupons because I do not plan to buy your products.

hadenough said...

It looks like WE all need to send an email to P&G and KMart.

There is power in numbers, the more the better.

ROFL said...

I sent a letter and it just pi$$es me off that it was thrown away.

I've got the letter I sent in December. I'm going to kinkos and making 50 copies of it. Then I'm going to send 5 of them each day...for ten days to make sure someone at P&G gets them!

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...

I once again e-mailed both places.
I informed Kmart that I made my final purchase there last night and that I have cut up our SEARS card.
I doubt they give a hoot, but at least I took a stand.
I haven't used a P&G product in months. I too, toss their coupons out. I've actually found better products and saved more money!

Jen K said...

This is a huge mistake on P&G's part. They would have been better off blowing off the interview or dancing around the subject, but to outright lie to the consumer...what an idiot. If I was this person's superior, I'd have him in my office pronto with a cardboard box under his arm ready to clean out his desk. I'm headed to SuperTarget tonight with nary a P&G product to be added to my cart. I've been doing that since last summer and have discovered some great brands!

whistlingdixiee said...

Plain and simple...they are lying. Until 2 months ago, I have never in my life sent a letter/email to a company telling them I would boycott their products. I sent such an email (twice to make sure they got it) to both Kmart and P&G. I got their canned response email thank-you blah blah blah. I'm going to look for it and then send a copy of their response to me from them. 12 anti-Keight emails my arse!

whistlingdixiee said...

Ha! Found it:


Thanks for contacting us.

We appreciate your taking the time to let us know how you feel about Kate Gosselin being a spokeswoman for P&G brandSAVER. Please be assured I'm sharing your comments with our P&G brandSAVER Team.

Thanks again for writing.

Rose
P&G Team


Just sent them the above email with a note telling them how much I appreciate being lied to. lol

whistlingdixiee said...

Forgot to put that I received the P&G canned response on January 18, 2009. They had plenty of time to count it in with what I am sure was at least 100's of others.

pghlynn said...

P&G may be changing their minds real soon on a spokes person. I just saw on MSN that "Octo" mom has just been released from the hospital...she's due to be on the "Today Show" (date unknown yet) according to her spokesperson. Apparently she is hiding out at an undisclosed location to avoid the media (oh brother!) Also according to the article she is NOT being paid for this interview, but is still considering the many other offers she's had. Give me a break!!! When will this nightmare of child exploitation stop!!! With "Octo" mom out on the loose P&G may just decide to drop our buddy Kate now and sign the new kid in town...after all with 14 kids I'm sure the "Octo" mom and her bankrupt parents clip coupons more than Kate ever did. I would like to offer Kate my own advice, be afraid Kate be very afraid octuplets are now the new sextuplets.

PJ said...

I just showed my husband the article and he pointed out that their spokes person's response is very carefully worded:

P&G's Williams says, "I've received less than a dozen [complaints] since September. We have been pleased with the work she has delivered."

I'VE RECEIVED, not P&G or WE.

Perhaps the complaint/boycott letters should be sent to Williams.

If I can't find his email address to resend my letter, I'll try sending it to the P&G snail mail address to his attention.

Liz said...

They may have her under contract. Which could mean she was paid upfront. So, they will utalize her until June. We will see then what happens.

June C said...

The end is near for the Gosselin gravytrain. Their fame is built on their ability to reproduce. Neither Jon nor Kate are articulate and would never in a million years be chosen to be a spokesperson if they didn't have the recognition from their tv show. The show will end soon. People are catching onto the farce the show has become and others just don't want to see undeserving people get things handed to them. The biggest factor in the show's demise is the fact that the general population is fickle. The loyal sheeple will soon find someone/something else to be obsessed with. P&G, Kmart and Kate will come to a "mutual agreement" to break ties, meaning the sponsors have found someone more marketable.
I'm afraid like big lottery winners, they'll piddle away their money.

NDmom said...

You guys are great! I love you all. I appreciate that when you do something, you don't do it half way!

ROFL said:
I sent a letter and it just pi$$es me off that it was thrown away.

I've got the letter I sent in December. I'm going to kinkos and making 50 copies of it. Then I'm going to send 5 of them each day...for ten days to make sure someone at P&G gets them!

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Good for you! Don't let them BS you like that! I, too, sent them an email through the P&G website. I'm quite sure I received a response but I cannot find it; apparently I got rid of it. But I agree with PJ whose husband said that the guy said "I've received" rather than P&G received. It's all semantics, ask President Clinton. But I was thinking the same thing - who would know to send a complaint to this guy in particular unless you worked at P&G or were related to this guy.

I posted my disgust at the BrandFreak site as well.

Keep up the letter campaigns and boycotts. I have a great respect for all of you on this blog...you really do a great job of expressing your opinions and when you believe in something, you take action. It's great!

Vicki said...

PJ your husbands point is a good one. Buttt I think that Williams guy is lieing. P&G most likely gave Keight a HUGH contract and with the econmy like it is they probably just want it to run its course. It would cast P&G big bucks to change their marketing plan now AND with all of us that are not buying their crap, we just may be affecting their bottom line. (Anybody know how P&G stock has been fairing lately?)

Katherine said...

Here is Mr. Williams direct contact information. Let's all write to him so he can skip around the semantics and state once again that HE (personally) has received few complaints.
Glenn Williams - External Relations Manager, Proctor & Gamble
1-513-983-1100
Williams.gv@pg.com

Katherine said...

Glenn Williams - External Relations Manager, Proctor & Gamble
1-513-983-1100
Williams.gv@pg.com

Four said...

Why bother sending an email? Hit them where they will listen. Product sales. No more Tide in this house. No more Kmart, and I guess Sears too. Not like P&G has a monopoly on any product I need or want. Adios!

Vicki said...

Post Script to my previous Post: I also emailed P&G in December and got the same "Rose" signed, canned
reply. I also have written Kmart/Sears before and Brandweek
has gotten my comments before and again today. Keep writing everyone. The heat is on Keight. Brandweek apparently hasn't let it go since they wrote this new article.

PJ said...

I just emailed Glenn Williams a copy of my previous comments that I sent to P&G on 12/8/09.

I expressed my dismay, that after taking the time to write (and it was rather lengthly) that they had not been passed on to him or his staff and asked for a response back.

Vicki said...

I'm calling Mr. Williams tomorrow
and emailing him now. Thank you
Katherine for the phone number!

Corinne said...

I no longer use P&G products, and we're talking 18 years of Head and Shoulders here...I hope they go bankrupt and don't get a bailout.

Anonygrandmother said...

I'm not having any luck with that e-mail address. Is it me, or my computer, or what? I've tried it several times. I would love to send an e-mail, but need an address.

C said...

What a stupid liar. Heck websites and blogs that write pro & con articles about Kon generate 100's of negative comments. For this putz to say that he's only received less than a dozen complaints is just showing what a dishonest corrupt liar he is. He isn't doing P&G any service by lying but then again they are hiring Kate, another known liar, so I guess they fit each other.

SorryKon said...

I watched the music video over again. It gave me the creeps. I no longer shop at KMart and do not use P & G products. I refuse to contribute to the KON.

PK said...

I haven't shopped and Kmart or Sears for years for other reasons, so that will be easy for me to boycott. I would like to know what products everyone likes instead of Tide, etc..
Someone mentioned they found something they like better for less money.
I have to give up Crest and Puffs. What about you?

MayDay said...

I just emailed too.
I would send a old fashion letter, but am hesitant to use a return address, as I am concerned with ramifications that might occur. I would not put anything past Jon and Kate and their people concerning what they would do. with our names and negative comments, I bet you they will get a class act lawsuit against us for deformation of character. Just a thought.

FXfanatic said...

I would HAPPILY give Jon and Kate my name and address. What can they do? They are the ones who are lying and committing sins against nature! (ok, that's going too far but I'm pissed off!).

I wrote some snail letters last month but never sent them. I think I will now.

CP Mom said...

I gave up using Tide a long time ago because it is very expensive. I have gone with a cheaper brand,which is Gain. I do like it, especially the smell but I just realized that it is a P+G product. So goodbye Gain....also Cheer and Bold are P+G products. I think that leaves ALL. Does anyone use ALL and how do
they like it?

PJ said...

Here's how I have replaced many P&G products:

Secret - Dove
Duracell - any battery
Cascade - Sun and Earth
Dawn - Palmolive
Always - Kotex
Tampax -Playtex
Aussie - Shampoo, Conditioner, Hairspray - Garnier Fructis
Metamucil - any store brand
Pepto Bismo - any store brand
Vicks - any store brand
Swiffer _ Pledge
Bounce - any store brand
Crest - Mentadent
Pringles - haven't found a replacement for this one so I'm just doing without ;-)

I've actually been saving some money not buying the P&G products that I had been buying for years. And in most cases, I have been actually happier with the new products.

Still miss my Pringles (Sour Cream & Onion) but I'm finding that I can live without those too ;-)

Mary said...

I think possibly part of the problem is that the emails are only going to a certain level as far as seniority is concerned. Some bosses will keep things from their superiors so they don't get in trouble.

What if this Mr. Williams was in some way originally responsible for the idea of Kate as a spokesperson. Do you think he would want his supervisors to know there have been complaints? Emails sent to him or certain fax numbers probably go in the trash.

I'm thinking the best thing to do would be to try and get an email, phone # or address for a President or CEO and send correspondence to them. They may not even be aware of what is happening.

This is just my opinion. Maybe someone who works at a big coporation could give their thoughts on this.

Christine said...

I have 2 teens and 3 little ones still in diapers. I haven't used Kimberly Clark (HUGGIES) products since my teens were babies. I switched over to Pampers when my first of the 3 little ones was born. Since Kate has been the spokesperson for P&G, not only have I not purchased any Pampers products but nothing else made by P&G either.

Actually I'm glad because the Huggies diapers kick butt (ha!) and are so much better than the Pampers. So thanks Kate because if it wasn't for your smug-ass and my deep desire to despise you I would not have known this and been forced to buy elsewhere for diapers and wipes.

To P&G = you suck! You should listen to the people who buy your products and have been loyal to you over the years instead of chasing after the dollars and Kate Gosselin to try to help your company. You've lost one loyal customer and I'm sure many others!

Lizardannie1966 said...

How many times do I have to email these people? I just sent emails 2 weeks ago! How do we get them to listen?

Merilee said...

I use All. It is a very good detergent. I think Tide is the most expensive, so I actually have not used Tide in years. I haven't used Downy in years either. I use store brand fabric softners.

I am finding many store brands are much cheaper and truly do the same job.

ThreeFarmers said...

I use Cheer because I like the idea of a happy wash.

I just Joy on my dishes for the same reason.

PJ said...

MayDay said...

I just emailed too.
I would send a old fashion letter, but am hesitant to use a return address, as I am concerned with ramifications that might occur. I would not put anything past Jon and Kate and their people concerning what they would do. with our names and negative comments, I bet you they will get a class act lawsuit against us for deformation of character. Just a thought.
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Every email/comment/letter I have sent to various sponsors has included my real name and mailing address.

I'm really not concerned that J&K will file a lawsuit against me. I'm entitled to my opinions and as long as I don't state false facts, I'm protected. I'm more concerned that the sponsors take my complaints seriously, thus the real name and address.

beachluvin said...

I have a thought and please tell me if this is not a good idea. Is there anyway that we can all write letters the old fashioned way and send them to one of the blog administrators here and have them bundled and sent via snail mail in one large envelope of box. The bundle can be mailed "certified" or "registered" so that we have proof that the letters were received.

I realize there would be an additional cost but I am more than willing to throw in a couple of extra dollars for the shipping and handling.

It is obvious that they either delete the e-mail or they are not reaching the appropriate person.

Just a thought.

Serena said...

Is there anyway that we can all write letters the old fashioned way and send them to one of the blog administrators here and have them bundled and sent via snail mail in one large envelope of box. The bundle can be mailed "certified" or "registered" so that we have proof that the letters were received.

This is an excellent idea, beachluvin. The more letters, the better. Guidelines for how to send your letters to GWoP for forwarding, along with a GWoP address, will be posted on the blog within the next day or two.

KrisJ said...

Vicki said...
PJ your husbands point is a good one. Buttt I think that Williams guy is lieing. P&G most likely gave Keight a HUGH contract and with the econmy like it is they probably just want it to run its course. It would cast P&G big bucks to change their marketing plan now AND with all of us that are not buying their crap, we just may be affecting their bottom line. (Anybody know how P&G stock has been fairing lately?)

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My best friend's husband works at P&G (in the Midwest) and told me that their stock and business is doing well. Just wanted to answer your question!

Jen K said...

Just got back from Target....no Crest, Pampers or Downy for this mom!

Anonymomma said...

P&G will lose a small fortune from my family lol. It's me and the hubby, our five kids, and sometimes the three stepchildren are here. We use a lot of their products, including many that were listed here. Too bad I won't be buying Tide or Downy anymore because I do roughly 14 loads of laundry a week. Does anyone know who actually makes the Wal Mart brand products? It isn't a subsidiary of P&G is it? I've used some of their store brand products for things like medicines and such. I was just curious.

Niks said...

Okay, this came out of total boredom. But was anyone unfortunate enough to watch the music video that was on the above linked page?

It was eye-rolling enough that I felt compelled to edit the lyrics a bit. I think this would be a bit more fitting:

It's time to sing out
And tell the world about
All about Kate, just Kate

You won't believe your eyes
How she moans, yells and whines:
"You wouldn't last a day,"
"Having eight kids isn't easy!!"
But she wouldn't trade the pay.. for a day

She let the cameras in
Took handouts from the world
"My life is oh so crazy!"
Got a brand new fridge, that old one was a mess!
But it's all mine, I know
"Oh, eight kids isn't easy!!"
But she wouldn't change the pay.. for a day

If her kids could make just one wish
It would be for a hug and a kiss
Off-camera..

There are places to go
Vacations for free
Sure, we're marketing "are" family

If her kids could make just one wish
It would be for a hug and a kiss
Off-camera..

If her kids could make just one wish
It would be for a hug and a kiss
Off-camera..

If her kids could make just one wish
It would be for a hug and a kiss
Off-camera..


Yeah, yeah. It's definitely not going to win an award. ;)

jenthabadfish said...

I just looked at the P&G product list so I can stop buying them. It sure is going to be hard to live without febreeze and cascade. Most of the others will be easy to replace. ALL detergent is great by the way.

Jaimethe5th said...

Oh no! Not Tampax! Have to buy the Pearl sub=brand...(sorry) Everything else? Meh.
BTW: I have a big family and I have lately used WallyWorld Detergent and fabric softener... "Everyday Elegance"- the detergent is OK , but the Softener works great and smells even better!
I will Definitely send a letter to be "bundled", but what are the chances "They" just toss the bag or something?? I mean, just the very fact of the BULK of the bundle will at LEAST send a visual, even if they DONT READ them??
ANd why would this Glenn man lie anyway? Just b/c he can? I dont get it; why people lie anyway. Like Kate. I HATE LIARS

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...

I use ALL as well.
Another I have tried is the Arm&Hammer Liquid. The powder didn't disolve very well, but the liquid works well.
Snuggle Fabric Softener dryer sheets or I use the Arm&Hammer with fabric softener.
The hardest product for me to stop using was LUVS diapers because my son broke out in a rash from Huggies, but I now just use a generic store brand.
As to the Pringles...I hear you! I look at it this way, it's helping my diet! :)

Monica A said...

I'm all for the letter writing campaign. My sister who also watched and enjoyed this show has finally seen the error of her ways...lol

I will also look at the product list and switch products. I recommend Purex for detergent, I knew someone who used it and liked it very much. I myself was always partial to Tide.....but not anymore. Looking at the list above for substitutions, I can easily live without all but 1 or 2 and I will work on those.

Me said...

I am also boycotting P&G. I don't like liars either and since Kate is a liar and they are using her as a spokesperson and they are lying about not getting complaints. As for laundry soap, I have been making my own for years. There is a recipe for it on the Duggar's website. Also white vinegar works wonderful in place of fabric softener. It gets the clothes rinsed really well, leaves them smelling very fresh, not vinegary, and is better for you skin. Dryer sheets leave a residue on your clothes and your dryer. Also the white vinegar keeps your washer nice and clean also.

I use Full Circle dish detergent which is organic and works very well. We don't have a dishwasher, so no worries there. We try to live as organically and naturally as possible, so many of P&G products have never entered our home in the first place. I will also be shopping at Penney's and Target instead of Sears and K-Mart.

If we don't hit them where it hurts, this madness will never end.

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...

If anyone is interested, I printed off the list I found at this site

www.pandgkills.com

Apparently P&G must test on animals? Anyhow, they also have lists of alternative products to use. I was surprised when I realized how many P&G products I used, but it truly didn't take me long to find alternatives, I think a lot of the the items were just what I grew up using, kind of a comfort thing I guess.

Me said...

Here are my substitutions for P&G products.

Align_ don't know what this is
Always minipads and maxipads-using store brand (we have 4 girls!)
Aussie hair care products-use Suave
Bounce fabric softener-white vinegar
Bounty paper towels-Viva
Braun products-don't use
Camay soap-I make my own soap
Cascade detergent-don't have a dishwasher
Charmin bathroom tissue and wipes - Cottonelle
Cheer detergent-I make my own
Cover Girl cosmetics - Maybelline/Revlon and I make my own lip balms
Crest toothpaste and Crest products -Colgate
Dawn dish detergent-Full Circle Organic
Downy fabric softener-white vinegar
Dreft detergent-never used
Duracell products-rechargable Energizer batteries or store brands
Era-never used
Febreze household products - I make my own Linen Mist to use around the house
Fibersure-never used, eat more fruits, veggies, nuts and oatmeal!
Fixodent-still have my own teeth!
Folger’s coffee-storebrand or 8 o'clock
Gain detergent-make my own
Gillette products-Personal Touch razor and hubby uses Schick
Giorgio perfume-I make my own Body Mist
Gleem toothpaste-never used
Head & Shoulders shampoo-never used
Herbal Essences-never used I get Suave
Iams pet food-Pedigree
Infusion 23-don't know what this is
Ivory soap and detergent-Never ever used. Ivory soap is horribly drying to the skin
Joy detergent-Full Circle Organic
Luv’s diapers-my DD uses Huggies now and will for her new baby as well
Max Factor cosmetics-never used
Maxi by Max Factor-never used
Metamucil laxative-never used-see above recommendations for these issues
Millstone coffee-see above
Miss Clairol-I leave my hair the way it is, it looks funny enough
Mr. Clean - never used, I clean with white vinegar, dish detergent, baking soda and lemon
Noxzema skin cream-NEVER USE I make my own creams and lotions or just use olive oil or make a skin butter.
Noxzema Continuous Protection cream-never use
Olay lotions and products-see above
Old Spice toiletries-my husband doesn't like fragrances
Oral B-never used
Pampers diapers & wipes-I use store brand wipes for my grandkids and my goats
Pantene shampoo-too expensive, never used
Pepto-Bismol-use the store brand for my goats only, we never take the stuff as it makes us gag.
Prilosec OTC-don't have stomach/heartburn problems as we drink raw milk and grow a lot of our own food.
Pringle’s potato chips-don't eat them as I think they taste funny.
Puffs tissue-Kleenex
PUR water products-I live in the mountains and we have excellent water straight from the tap.
Safeguard soap-too harsh on the skin, I make my own handmade soaps
Scope mouthwash-Listerine or store brand but rarely use it.
Secret deodorant-Dry Idea or Suave
Swiffer cleaning cloths and products-never use, too wasteful. I have a broom and a mop with a reusable terry cloth cover.
TAMPAX tampons-OB's
ThermaCare-not sure what this is, but I do have a heating pad
Tide detergent-make my own laundry soap
Vaporub cough drops-Ludens
Vicks medications-never used too strong for my likings you can get an essential oil blend and some menthol crystals and make your own rubs
Vidal Sassoon-too expensive never used
Zest detergent bar-again to harsh to the skin, make your own soap people, it is very easy.

If anyone knows that P&G makes any of my substitutions, please let me know. Thanks and hope this helps others replace their P&G products.

Don't know if they still make it or not, but years ago when my multiples were little, I used Oxydol (sp) detergent and it worked really well. Of course I wasn't re-selling my kids clothes so perhaps my standards aren't high enough. Just my 2 cents worth here.

Myrel said...

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...
If anyone is interested, I printed off the list I found at this site

www.pandgkills.com

Apparently P&G must test on animals? Anyhow, they also have lists of alternative products to use. I was surprised when I realized how many P&G products I used, but it truly didn't take me long to find alternatives, I think a lot of the the items were just what I grew up using, kind of a comfort thing I guess.
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P&G has some controversies with their animal testing, for sure. But they are up against much bigger machines than the few of us who will boycott against J&K. Compared to their other boycotters, we are very small stuff. (Sorry, but its true.)

Hmmm, seems we ought to all stop using any P&G product, but they are trying to comply with some demands.

Now P&G is working with UNICEF and a Pampers campaign to eradicate tetnus, supplying tetnus vaccine to third world countries, one vaccine per one package of Pampers. Even bad corporations do some good things.

Sidney said...

The campaign was supported by Pampers TV advertising as well as radio, print media, internet and in-store activity to raise awareness of the issue and to encourage the public to support UNICEF.

David Bull, UNICEF UK Executive Director, said: “UNICEF is extremely grateful to Pampers for their investment in UNICEF’s tetanus immunization programmes around the world. Innovative partnerships such as this are invaluable in raising the profile of this killer disease and helping UNICEF to provide the support needed to save thousands of mothers’ and babies’ lives each year.”

Pampers' spokesperson Forbes McDougall said “Pampers are delighted to be able to deliver so many vaccinations to UNICEF UK and UNICEF Ireland. The response to this campaign has exceeded all expectations . This partnership will continue in the future as we work together with UNICEF to help them provide the support and vaccinations needed to save the lives of vulnerable mothers’ and babies’ each year”.

Maggie2 said...

Mary said -

I think possibly part of the problem is that the emails are only going to a certain level as far as seniority is concerned. Some bosses will keep things from their superiors so they don't get in trouble.

What if this Mr. Williams was in some way originally responsible for the idea of Kate as a spokesperson. Do you think he would want his supervisors to know there have been complaints? Emails sent to him or certain fax numbers probably go in the trash.

I'm thinking the best thing to do would be to try and get an email, phone # or address for a President or CEO and send correspondence to them. They may not even be aware of what is happening.

This is just my opinion. Maybe someone who works at a big coporation could give their thoughts on this.
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I work in brand management. The complaints are not trashed or kept from the appropriate management.

It's hard to feel as though P&G is listening because it is a global company. Also, a large factor is the ratings that P&G sees for the show. Millions of people watch the show, but millions of people don't participate in the blog. In reality, the negative complaints could be no more than a drop in the bucket. Keep in mind that for every 1 negative letter there could be 2 positive.

The ratings of for the show as well as online viewership (whether it be TLC or YouTube) are taken into account. Controversy is taken into account as well. Take a look at Rachel Ray - there are hate blogs for her and yet her show just keeps plugging away.

Having the conviction to boycott a company and write in is what is most important. It may not do much today, but it may just be a movement that builds over time.

ALSO, Folgers is no longer a P&G brand it was acquired by Smucker.

Lizardannie1966 said...

Someone at Brandfreak suggested voicing our concerns on this message board.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/PG

What are your thoughts everyone? We need to make our voices heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marsha said...

Even if the program ends this season, J & K already have made millions with the episodes, appearances, endorsements, etc, plus the freebies. This economy is a question mark but under normal circumstances and with sound financial advice they are probably set anyway.

As for the tups aging and not being as much a curiosity, my mom, an avid fan, can't wait to follow them to as old as she can. (She informs me everytime Diane Sawyer does an update on the McCoys(sp?)). I'm certain there are millions of others like my mom who will enjoy following them thru their lives.

She asked me to watch J & K so we can share chats about it and she also lurks at this site and wonders what the fuss is about. I don't have a lot of time to watch TV (because I'm an avid net surfer) but I've been lurking here and can see some points but see some over-the -top views too.

I guess my main point is that J & K are already set. It would seem your initiative would be better served at working on getting labor laws written and passed in states so loopholes like J & K would be closed in the future.

K.Barrett said...

I disagree, Marsha. If they were already set they wouldn't be shoving themselves in everyone's faces at every turn. They have a huge, expensive house to pay for upkeep on now, not to mention 8 kids to support. They are far from "set."

Jen K said...

As far as those moms out there with kiddos still in diapers...I was a diehard Pampers buyer (still have some from a purchase I already made, but I think I'm done for quite awhile on Pampers) and I found that Walgreens store brand diapers are just as good as Pampers! They are cheap too and the best generic brand of diapers I've ever used with my son.

When they go on sale, as they did last week, a jumbo pack (30 or so diapers in size 4) are only $5.99! They work great!

Marsha said...

But don't you see how many other opportunities will come along after the show has stopped new episodes? They'll always have people who are interested and want to use them for something. Our society eats this stuff up.

Besides that, they will also have very lucritive (can't imagine they don't have a clause in the contract for it) residual checks. They can also go back out into the real world. If they have to downsze, they downsize, but I think in the end we'll see them living fine financially in the future. One caveat being... if they are fiscally responsible.

As far as college goes. I am the eighth child of eight siblings. Five of us have college degrees. Two got really great scholarships. Three of us worked our butts off to pay for it. No reason why the kids can't do the same if it all goes south.

Given the circumstances, it would be a shame but college is there for those who put in the effort.

beachluvin said...

Serena said...
Is there anyway that we can all write letters the old fashioned way and send them to one of the blog administrators here and have them bundled and sent via snail mail in one large envelope of box. The bundle can be mailed "certified" or "registered" so that we have proof that the letters were received.

This is an excellent idea, beachluvin. The more letters, the better. Guidelines for how to send your letters to GWoP for forwarding, along with a GWoP address, will be posted on the blog within the next day or two.

2/05/2009 6:59 PM
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I am happy that you are going forward with the idea. If folks still have the original e-mails they sent in their "sent" box....perhaps they can be printed and sent in as well.

I just read that Michael Phelps lost his sponsorship with Kellogg's because of the photo of him hitting a "bong". I am sure all sponsor contracts have a clause in them to ensure they can back out for any reason they choose. I hope the next time P&G decides on a sponsor for their products, they do a little research. All it takes is for them to tune in to TLC on Monday nights and see for themselves what a loving mother and wife Kate Gosselin is!

GoawayGosselins said...

I was successful in sending an email to Mr. Williams - what an Idiot!

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...

Well, my boycott of P&G and Kmart/Sears may be just a drop in the bucket, but at least I feel better about myself, knowing that I am not contributing to KON and their extravagance. I'm doing what I feel is right.

Arieslikekate said...

I think that Kate "appears" to be the type of customer Kmart is now looking for: smart, surburban mothers who want to shop at a cheap, well known store.

I doubt I will run into Kate at my local Kmarts.

It is funny they call her "polarizing"... strange choice of words to describe a person.

ROFL said...

Proctor & Gamble
1-513-983-1100


If any of your are interested I will be calling this number on Monday between the hours of 1:00 3:00 pm [central time]. If some of you would care to join me I would really appreciate it, maybe we can clog up the phone lines with our concerns.

Thanks.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

A global corporation such as P&G can (and does) ignores criticism when it is in its best interest. Such companies used to be accountable to their stockholder, and would respond to criticism from that quarter, but as we can see from current develops in the stock market, big business is ignoring everthing and everyone except the bottom line. CEOs take the money and run, and screw the rest...

Frankly, Kate Gosselin is the "spokesperson" P&G deserves.

whistlingdixiee said...

WOW! I called P&G- 1-513-983-1100 they had no clue who Kate Gosselin is and what I was talking about. They gave me this number 1-800-308-3279. I'm on hold now ....

Vicki said...

I tried to reach Glenn Williams
at P&G this morning. The nice young man at the switchboard put me
through to our pal Glenn's line
only for me to get voice mail.
His message said he was unavailable but call his cell phone at 513-780-6632. (I wondered if his boss was ripping him a new one) Anyway, I could not reach him personally but certainly left him my voice message.

VA Lawyer said...

Yes, I too have written many letters to P&G, to Sears and to K-Mart telling them the products I have used for years that they carry and how I will now be looking for alternatives and buying those unless and until this seriously disturbed woman is taken off their payroll as a spokesperson.

I also mentioned to them that they are certainly not the only products or stores out there and many, many people consider them touting the Kon as a slap in the face.

You may be right, maybe they don't care, but I care and I will not shop at those stores or use those products -- and I will feel better about myself for that.

HappyMommyAndWife said...

Maggie2 said...

I'm thinking the best thing to do would be to try and get an email, phone # or address for a President or CEO and send correspondence to them. They may not even be aware of what is happening.
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This is the contact information for the top guy:

Alan G. Lafley
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer
1 Proctor & Gamble Plaza
Cincinnati, OH 45202

Phone: 513-983-1100

HappyMommyAndWife said...

Maggie2 said...


I think possibly part of the problem is that the emails are only going to a certain level as far as seniority is concerned. Some bosses will keep things from their superiors so they don't get in trouble.

What if this Mr. Williams was in some way originally responsible for the idea of Kate as a spokesperson. Do you think he would want his supervisors to know there have been complaints? Emails sent to him or certain fax numbers probably go in the trash.
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Williams isn't even listed as one of the corporate managers (see link below) so you may be on to something!

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=195341&p=irol-govmanage

justmyopinion said...

Isn't the spokeswoman of a company supposed to actually use the products the company makes?Maybe P&G would feel it a bit ironic that the queen of organic doesn't even use P&G herself.Yet she is their spokeswoman?Go figure>

pinkdiamond611 said...

The fact that Williams, had to make a public statement means that something is up. Since when does a huge corporation comment on the concerns of twelve people? GMAB. Also, when I read the statement I took it to mean there is a contract which is up in June. . .then they will decide if they should renew Kate's contract.

PJ said...

I received a very cordial email response today from Glenn Williams. In it he apologized that my previous email had not been acknowledged. He did not know why, nor why it hadn't been shared with him.

He did thank me for my comments and said that they do take consumer feed back seriously when it is time to reevaluate the relationships with their spokespersons.

He also mentioned that some of the communications that he had received had been less than polite and thanked me for the tone of my email.

It was definitely not a form letter/email and I appreciate the time he took to write it.

timetogokon said...

The fact that Williams, had to make a public statement means that something is up. Since when does a huge corporation comment on the concerns of twelve people?

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Great point. If there wasn't such an enormous amount of controversy surrounding Kate, why the need to say anything at all?

BTW, interesting that P&G will NOT be sending loads of freebies to Octomom.......

LeeLee said...

Are Pringle's organic?

mochi said...

"We plan to continue to use and leverage her there. We'll discuss around that time if or in what nature we'll continue the relationship," says P&G rep Glenn Williams."

Well, obviously they have no problem with Kate & Jon using & leveraging the kids, since that's how they see the family too.

Jen K said...

The fact that Williams, had to make a public statement means that something is up. Since when does a huge corporation comment on the concerns of twelve people? GMAB. Also, when I read the statement I took it to mean there is a contract which is up in June. . .then they will decide if they should renew Kate's contract.



Great observation!

I know that some people elsewhere on other sites have mocked people writing emails, letters, and boycotting P&G products because it doesn't seem like it would make much difference. My view on it, and I know it's been mentioned by others as well, is that making those small efforts makes me feel like I can vote with my dollar and make my voice heard. I know it's not much, but it helps me sleep at night.

To me, it's similar to voting in an election. While one vote doesn't count for much, it's the accumulated efforts of many that elect a candidate. We have no idea how many people are here reading and choosing to lurk (hey, sis) and not actively participating in the conversation. So I would hope that people who are reading about this and realizing that things aren't adding up would take two or three minutes to send an email or at least walk past the P&G products and choose one product that they can replace with another brand. The small efforts of many can make a difference.

Tami said...

BTW, interesting that P&G will NOT be sending loads of freebies to Octomom.......
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I'm sure they learned their lesson with KON but are refusing to admit they made a mistake there. They probably hope they can wait out her contract, dump her and hope everyone forgets.

no p&g said...

I just looked at the P&G product list so I can stop buying them. It sure is going to be hard to live without febreeze and cascade. Most of the others will be easy to replace. ALL detergent is great by the way.
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There are lots of other similar scents now besides Febreeze and Electrosol is just as good as Cascade.

Tami said...

Seriously? Walgreen diapers are good? I bought some for my toddler when she was still in diapers and the tapes kept falling off as soon as I tried to fasten them. I returned them. I'm glad someone had luck with them! Right now we are using Pampers (and cloth diapers) for my infant because only a couple brands make them in newborn sizes. I will definitely stop now though. We liked Huggies just as much and they don't leave those awful gel crystals on him! Pampers seems to be the only diapers that have this problem with leaking chemicals!

Jen K said...

I just started using the Walgreens diapers for my son in December, so maybe they have changed them recently? Not sure, but we like them! They remind me very much of Huggies actually in their thickness.

Casey and Smudge said...

P&G must just love how Kate used half a roll of their free paper towel to mop up some dribbled water that the cameraman noticed. A good spokesmom would have shown how one sheet of the quicker-picker-upper could do the job!

cj said...

Since the folks in P&G's marketing department don't seem to be able to read or count, try sending a letter to the CEO.

Alan G Lafley, CEO
1 Proctor & Gamble Plaza
Cincinnati, Ohio 45202

or FAX: 513.983.9369

Maybe Mr. Lafley would be interested in reading the mail from ex-customers.

timetogokon said...

P&G must just love how Kate used half a roll of their free paper towel to mop up some dribbled water that the cameraman noticed. A good spokesmom would have shown how one sheet of the quicker-picker-upper could do the job!


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And I'm sure Sara Snow is just so pleased that KON is still so wasteful. (iirc, in a recent interview, it was displayed that they STILL go through a zillion paper plates each week)

Casey and Smudge said...

"And I'm sure Sara Snow is just so pleased that KON is still so wasteful. (iirc, in a recent interview, it was displayed that they STILL go through a zillion paper plates each week)"



Grr, I know! I really don't understand why she has to use paper plates (and double them up) when they could easily run the dishwasher twice a day. Most will hold 16 plates, silverware and copious sippy cups quite easily, no? And those little snacky lunches the kids eat don't even warrant a plate! She could dump them out onto a paper towel for each child. At least paper towel will break down sometime this century! We even throw the ones we use for food prep and bunny salad (they hate getting their feet wet!) in our composter. There's no excuse for such blatant wastefulness, no matter how rich you are or how many kids you have!

mollybloom said...

Proctor and Gamble, as any large company, has had its share of bad publicity. One of the most interesting was an urban legend that claimed that the company's man in the moon logo was a satanic symbol. P & G pulled the logo in response, even though the story was nonsense. At some level, the company does listen.

Jon and Kate appeared in the P & G Brand Saver in today's newspaper. I got the sense that it was a "trial balloon," small picture and limited copy, although it could be that J & K were demanding too much money to appear on the cover of the flyer. The copy is hilarious. Three tips from the king and queen of economy: 1) let the kids "help with tearing and sorting coupons [to teach] them about saving money and being frugal," 2) don't let kids waste products such as paper towels and toilet paper, 3) buy products like toothpaste and body wash that "everyone in the family can share."

May I comment on these innovative and positively brilliant suggestions? Of course, I can.

1) Can you imagine Kate letting the kids rip up coupon flyers? The mess! The mistakes! Also, Jon and Kate hardly live a frugal life, so what are they teaching the kids? Well, Kate seems to like the word "deserve," especially for things she wants. 2) Haven't we seen paper towels and paper plates and heard stories of toilet paper being used with abandon in that house? I guess the Gosselins don't need to be careful. Of course they don't. It's all free! 3) Products everyone can share? Let's see. The girls can't go in the boys' bathroom, the boys can't go near the girls' bathroom, and not even God can go into the master suite. Who goes in the kitchen but the help? What products are the Gosselin family sharing exactly?

On the other board, a poster said that Jon and Kate were able to buy their big new house because they were frugal and used coupons. I'm almost speechless. Such a good concept has gone so very bad.

Tami said...

Jon and Kate appeared in the P & G Brand Saver in today's newspaper. I got the sense that it was a "trial balloon," small picture and limited copy, although it could be that J & K were demanding too much money to appear on the cover of the flyer. The copy is hilarious. Three tips from the king and queen of economy: 1) let the kids "help with tearing and sorting coupons [to teach] them about saving money and being frugal," 2) don't let kids waste products such as paper towels and toilet paper, 3) buy products like toothpaste and body wash that "everyone in the family can share."
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I read that and it was so ridiculous! First of all, she was critcized previously for saying kids could CUT coupons because we know her kids can't use scissors. So she changes it to tear. Um, can you imagine? They would never be able to accurately tear coupons and not rip the bar codes. Then the stuff about product sizes was stupid, but mine didn't read like that. It was more like 'let kids practice using products where they have to control the size or some such nonsense, and then sharing toiletries?? Yeah right. Can you imagine Kate not using expensive spa products but instead sharing an industrial sized bottle of Suave with Jon and the kids? Puh-leaze!

PAMommyof3 said...

I am an avid coupon user and faithfully used the P&G insert coupons but I am no longer going to use their products and sent them a letter stating my feelings on the matter. I was going through Sundays P&G insert, I threw them away, I won't even pass them along to someone else to use but the tips she submitted had me rolling on the floor.
I don't remember them exactly but two stood out to me that I thought was funny.
Don't be wasteful with your papertowels, etc. Only use what you need. To bad she didn't remember that tip for the moving episode.
Have the kids help by clipping and organizing coupons with you. I am willing to bet the kids don't even know what a coupon is and I just can't image her having the kids help her with that. I bet they don't even know how to use scissors yet. I would love to see an episode where they were helping her organize her coupons and then her getting her shopping list ready and matching the coupons and going shopping. I bet she would be clueless.

NCLindsey said...

Justmyopinion said...

"Isn't the spokeswoman of a company supposed to actually use the products the company makes?"

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I did notice in the Fridgegate episode, as she was standing at the kitchen sink with the fridge racks/shelves, there was a bottle of Dawn Direct Foam next to the sink. I recognized the bottle because I used to use the product (have now started using Clorox Green Works dish soap and like it better). I remember thinking at the time, "No wonder it's taking her forever to clean the fridge..." because it appeared she was just using dish soap to clean the horrendously horrendous, vile, moldy fridge.

I am sad to get rid of Luvs, but hopefully my 2.5 yr old daughter will finally potty train soon! I started buying Luvs diapers and Pampers wipes in bulk through diapers.com because it was cheaper per unit than at the store.

I greatly appreciate the time it took for people to post their recommendations for P&G alternatives! Especially regarding the laundry soap... grew up using Cheer and switched to Gain when my husband and I got married. Am eager to try out the white vinegar and homemade laundry soap! Thanks everyone!

timetogokon said...

Instead of throwing the P&G coupons away, I sent mine to the head honcho with a little note stating that until Kate Gosselin is replaced as a spokesperson, P&G products will no longer be used in my home.


Alan G. Lafley
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer
1 Proctor & Gamble Plaza
Cincinnati, OH 45202

Phone: 513-983-1100

HiThere said...

Just found P&G Brandsaver coupons from the Sunday newspaper. They have "family savings tips by Kate Gosselin" in there.
Here's just one of them-
Waste Not-
"Kids can make a difference too. Try products that help them use only what they need. Paper towels and toilet paper are a coupe of good examples".

The P&G guy needs to be aware of Jon telling all the world that the boys clog the toilet by unwinding the t.p. roll into the throne as it is flushing.
He should also view the Big Move episode, in which Kate tosses an obscene amount of paper towels onto a wet spot on the floor, leaves them there, and declares to the camera that that is where they will stay, because she's moving and can leave them there.

Yeah, that's who I want as my spokesperson ;)

Corinne said...

Looks like you all had the same idea as me - I'm going to literally go through the insert and write in what I'm using, instead of their crappy child-exploiting paraphernalia. At the end I'll total how much they COULD have - and that's just ME. That's not counting all the bad word-of-mouth I'm giving them.

Mary said...

I just got a chance to see the coupons in the paper and had the same idea of sending them back to P&G. Can you imagine them having to open mail with nothing but their own coupons in them. To me that is something that I think would really make an impression especially if they get a lot of them.

What gets me is the coupons and Kate's "tips" are obviously geared toward adults. The tips are not something we don't already know and really are an insult to adults. Do they think we are all morons?

mollybloom said...

"Do they [Jon and Kate] think we are all morons?"

In a word, yes.

Dunwoody Mom said...

I buy very few "name" products anymore. I buy the generic store brand items. They are cheaper, even with coupons, and just as good as supposedly "real" products.

FedUpWithIt said...

Here is what I received back from P&G today...after I emailed last WEEK...they sure took a LOT of care and time in to this response..LMFAO

Discussion Thread
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Response (RightNow Administrator) - 02/12/2009 01:28 PM
Thanks for contacting P&G, ______.

We appreciate your taking the time to let us know how you feel about Kate
Gosselin. Please be assured I'm sharing all of your comments with our P&G
Management Team.

Thanks again for writing!

P&G Team

MsPeabody said...

I'm sure there are worthy spokes people out there for K-Mart and P&G than mothers who unwisely over do it with fertility in order to have multiples for exploitation and greed. I am also sure that K-Mart and P&G are feeling the pinch as so many of us have stopped using their products. There is power in numbers, they can't fool us into thinking we haven't made a difference, I don't believe it. I used to work in the retail industry and the last thing they want is to lose consumers. To all boycotting their products, good for you and keep up the good work, it does make a difference inspite of what some might say, some are probably their posters that are paid to say it doesn't make a difference but believe me, it does! :)

MsPeabody said...

MayDay said...
I just emailed too.
I would send a old fashion letter, but am hesitant to use a return address, as I am concerned with ramifications that might occur. I would not put anything past Jon and Kate and their people concerning what they would do. with our names and negative comments, I bet you they will get a class act lawsuit against us for deformation of character. Just a thought.

Jon and Kate are the ones that have put their private lives out there to be scrutinized. Their characters are what they are. They wouldn't have a lawsuit to bring.

MsPeabody said...

MomOf3AndLovingIt said...
Well, my boycott of P&G and Kmart/Sears may be just a drop in the bucket, but at least I feel better about myself, knowing that I am not contributing to KON and their extravagance. I'm doing what I feel is right.


Amen! Good for you and I believe it does make a difference! They do not like losing one consumer and seems they have lost many here. I've said this before and say it again, there is power in numbers. They spend lots of money on advertisement because they want to sell products to who? US, that's who! It might take a little time before we hear of the outcome of our boycotting their products but it will make a difference. Those who say it won't make a difference are the ones who want to discourage us from boycotting in the first place.