When Should or Will the Show End?

When do you think the show will end? I know many of us think it should end now, but when do you think the time will be when either the Gosselins or TLC will pull the plug?

180 comments:

Jack B. said...

I think it will end when these kids are old enough to know (and be horrified of) what millions of people around the world have seen of them.

BostonBean said...

When they go to school in the Fall.

nomorekonartists said...

I think this show will end in the fall as well. The kids will be in school, and TLC should no longer have the excuse to stay there and tape when there are no children there. Although I wouldn't put it past Kate to ask TLC to start a show that is devoted to her.

ClevelandRocks said...

I think it will end when the tups go to kindergarten, but I don't think that will be next fall. I can really see Kate keeping them home an extra year saying that they are younger than most of the kids, they are multiples, not all of them are ready, blah blah blah, but really meaning that she needs to milk an extra year of taping out of their little lives.

Not Any Time Soon said...

I don't want the show to end. I think its in the best interest of the whole family if the show continues for now. The money that they are able to save is going to greatly effect the children' futures and the longer they can keep making money the better. The kids are going to be able to go to any school they can get into and are not going to have to worry about getting in debt while they are receiving an education. Thats an awesome thing. I think once the kids are all in school full time they will have no choice but to cut down filming time but I hope they continue somehow, whether that be new episodes every two weeks or a once an year special. I think, especially in this economy that any money the Gosselin's make and save is going to be a blessing for their children. As many of you have said in other posts: They are not buying anything right now, so all the money they are making is being saved.

I hope that once its time for the show to end it ends on the Gosselin family terms. I think that will be what is best for everybody involved. But as for now I think the show should continue because those kids are not in any harm and they are able to live a great life because of the show.

Kim said...

I hope it doesnt end because once it does those kids will be living in poverty. Both Jon and Kate have no motivation to work and it would require ALOT of work to feed, cloth, and take care of 8 kids.

Snerk said...

They are not buying anything right now, so all the money they are making is being saved.


Not buying anything - 6200 square foot house with very large attached maintenance costs? Hm.

RuthinVA said...

ClevelandRocks said...
I think it will end when the tups go to kindergarten, but I don't think that will be next fall. I can really see Kate keeping them home an extra year saying that they are younger than most of the kids, they are multiples, not all of them are ready, blah blah blah, but really meaning that she needs to milk an extra year of taping out of their little lives.

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Good point. Your point sounds just like something Kate would come up with and try to justify.

Not Any Time Soon said...

Snerk said...
They are not buying anything right now, so all the money they are making is being saved.


Not buying anything - 6200 square foot house with very large attached maintenance costs? Hm.

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Well Im betting the maintenance will be volunteered. And really the house cost is probably nothing compared with what they have in the bank.

Wont Happen said...

I dont think Kate will delay their schooling, they are already attending a Pre-K class, they showed that a while ago. However I could see her homeschooling.... well not her doing the work but her paying somebody to!

Pauline said...

The show should have never gotten started.

Snerk said...

What are you signing up to do not any time soon? I don't think the county tax assessor is going to waive their taxes nor is the electric company going to comp their bill. Know any gardeners willing to do all that acreage free? Pool service? It's going to cost hundreds per month to heat and cool that house and that's just the beginning of it.

Onomatopoeia said...

ClevelandRocks said...
I think it will end when the tups go to kindergarten, but I don't think that will be next fall. I can really see Kate keeping them home an extra year saying that they are younger than most of the kids, they are multiples, not all of them are ready, blah blah blah, but really meaning that she needs to milk an extra year of taping out of their little lives.


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I have this horrible feeling that there may be home-schooling in the 'tups' future. Now there's another way to milk it. WHEW - talk about something that's horribly horrendous to even think about!!

Not Any Time Soon said...

Snerk said...
What are you signing up to do not any time soon? I don't think the county tax assessor is going to waive their taxes nor is the electric company going to comp their bill. Know any gardeners willing to do all that acreage free? Pool service? It's going to cost hundreds per month to heat and cool that house and that's just the beginning of it.

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I can promise that a portion, if not all of their bills are paid for by TLC or Figure 8. So yes they are making and saving a TON of money. They don't buy their own cloths, they don't pay for the electric, they don't buy groceries, really the list goes on. And yes Im betting people will donate yard care and such because they have before. Think about it, you do some yard work for free, your name is on national television, people want you because you work for a famous family, and next thing you know your making millions. So yes they will donate, thats just how things work. A little donation and some publicity goes a long way.

Sarah said...

I think they should continue, they are making money so why stop? Especially when the economy has made it so difficult to get and keep a job.

RuthinVA said...

Snerk said...
What are you signing up to do not any time soon? I don't think the county tax assessor is going to waive their taxes nor is the electric company going to comp their bill. Know any gardeners willing to do all that acreage free? Pool service? It's going to cost hundreds per month to heat and cool that house and that's just the beginning of it.

1/09/2009 10:46 AM
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Any time soon has already signed up to be a person from a PR firm to represent Jon and Kate.

Snerk said...

When the show ends, my dear, and no way is it going to last more than a year or so longer, the Gosselins are going to be having to support that spread on their own. When TLC pulls the plug and they will, it's done, finished, and over. Not another penny or phone call. That's what I'm talking about not while they're on the TLC gravy train. You think they have enough in the bank to continue this lavish lifestyle they've created? Not a chance.

Not Any Time Soon said...

RuthinVA said...
Snerk said...
What are you signing up to do not any time soon? I don't think the county tax assessor is going to waive their taxes nor is the electric company going to comp their bill. Know any gardeners willing to do all that acreage free? Pool service? It's going to cost hundreds per month to heat and cool that house and that's just the beginning of it.

1/09/2009 10:46 AM
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Any time soon has already signed up to be a person from a PR firm to represent Jon and Kate.

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No, I just hate all the negativity surrounding Jon and Kate. Why does everybody hate them for taking their situation and making the best out of it?

AM said...

Its too late now. The damage is done. They are selling dvd's with toddlers in diapers, having bowel movements in the back of the van, sitting on potty chairs, being screamed at over chewing gum, having tantrums...need I go on? They might as well just keep on doing it at this point.
For Cara and Mady's sake, it needs to end NOW, but it really doesn't matter.

RuthinVA said...

Sarah said...
I think they should continue, they are making money so why stop? Especially when the economy has made it so difficult to get and keep a job.

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Getting and keeping a job was hard for Jon in a great economy.

Harriet said...

Not any time soon, you're on the wrong blog, swimming upstream, fighting a losing battle, etc.

It's Gosselins WITHOUT Pity here.

cheryl said...

Expect the show will end when the personal appearances die down -
church appearances where tickets are a fraction of the original cost.
Would like to see semi-annual shows to watch how the kids mature.
It's interesting no one sees any weekend guests or friends playing cards on a Sat nite or picnics with former school friends and their families. Most people have several close friends they socialize with. I see very little compassion or empathy in the family - very sterile - of course k was made sterile. Maybe she is living in the garage apartment
away from the family. Certainly a
strange situation.

The g's must allow the kids to socialize with neighbors etc. Can't live in a vacuum.

RuthinVA said...

Not Any Time Soon said...
Think about it, you do some yard work for free, your name is on national television, people want you because you work for a famous family, and next thing you know your making millions. So yes they will donate, thats just how things work.

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I am thinking about it. I always hire people because they work for a famous family. LOL

funny, funny said...

RuthinVA said...
Not Any Time Soon said...
Think about it, you do some yard work for free, your name is on national television, people want you because you work for a famous family, and next thing you know your making millions. So yes they will donate, thats just how things work.

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I am thinking about it. I always hire people because they work for a famous family. LOL

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Actually people do. You see somebody on Tv and you hire them, when in reality there could be somebody better but you just havent heard of them.

Andy Fan said...

Today would be good - Not so good for the KON's tho....

Sharla said...

I just rejected a comment about the Gosselin's estimated income because the figures were completely erroneous. Speculation about their income needs to be somewhat reasonable.

Crazy said...

Sharla said...
I just rejected a comment about the Gosselin's estimated income because the figures were completely erroneous. Speculation about their income needs to be somewhat reasonable.

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How can people estimate their income? How can you even give an actual number? Thats like estimating a posters income! Completely crazy.

MomInTX said...

I'd love to know what Julie or any of the people that are closest to the situation think of this. WHEN will this end? I can't stand it any longer. Her behavior is atrocious, she treats everyone like dirt, including family, helpers, her paid staff, her bosses or coworkers at TLC (the producers) and yet, she seems to only benefit from this behavior. It's enough to make me wonder how fair is this?!!

Tazznum1 said...

$XXXX x how many shows already in the vault? 80.

80x $XXXXX=$XXXXXXXXXX

They live in PA. Pa taxes are much lower than NJ or NY.

This amount does not include "love offerings", speaking engagements, books etc.

They have another season coming out, so that's another at least 10 episodes = $xxxxxxxk Plus another book.

In PA, they might spend when all the TLC perks go away, maybe $5k a month on living expenses. Food, electric, taxes etc.

They'll be set for a very very very long time. And once TLC goes away and kids are in school, she'll demand Jon go back to work. Just to get $ back for the property taxes, claiming 10 people, earned income tax credit, health benefits.

RadioHead said...

Unless they keep doing the show they are not going to be able to meet all the new expenses they've incurred with the purchase of the new "house".

Unless Kate has plans on "writing" more books -

Or Jon getting an actual job -

Those kids are going to be working a long long time.

Sad......

Not Any Time Soon said...

Tazznum1 said...
$XXXX x how many shows already in the vault? 80.

80x $XXXXX=$XXXXXXXXXX

They live in PA. Pa taxes are much lower than NJ or NY.

This amount does not include "love offerings", speaking engagements, books etc.

They have another season coming out, so that's another at least 10 episodes = $xxxxxxxk Plus another book.

In PA, they might spend when all the TLC perks go away, maybe $5k a month on living expenses. Food, electric, taxes etc.

They'll be set for a very very very long time. And once TLC goes away and kids are in school, she'll demand Jon go back to work. Just to get $ back for the property taxes, claiming 10 people, earned income tax credit, health benefits.

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Exactly! They have a lot of money in the bank and the longer the show continues they more they will have. The more they have the better for the children in the long run.

avasmommy said...

To those of you that do not think the show should end....you need help as desperately as Kate. This show is nothing more than a circus of Kate's tantrums, meltdowns, and pleads.

I am just so appalled that people actually think continuing the show would benefit the kids. Money isn't everything, Kate, er I mean PR, er I mean sheeple. It would be one thing if KON were saving money that they earned, but that is not the case. OPEN YOUR EYES!!!

They Got $$$$$ said...

RadioHead said...
Unless they keep doing the show they are not going to be able to meet all the new expenses they've incurred with the purchase of the new "house".

Unless Kate has plans on "writing" more books -

Or Jon getting an actual job -

Those kids are going to be working a long long time.

Sad......


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The money for the house is already in the bank so subtract that and I bet there is still a TON of money left. More than enough to live off of for a very long time. Or they could sell the house, make money off it and buy something cheaper.

Virginia Girl said...

The show will end and Kate will get her own show "In the Kitchen Bitchin with Kate." Can't wait to learn new organic soups and sandwich ideas! Hopefully she will get a new haircut and some public speaking lessons first.

RuthinVA said...

My point, people hire from advertisements from TV, not because they work for "famous people". I find it hard to believe there are a lot of people sitting wide eyed and waiting for the bylines to see Karla does their yard and then in turn give her a call later that night to get an estimate for their yard. Just struck me as very funny.

Money, Money, Money said...

avasmommy said...
To those of you that do not think the show should end....you need help as desperately as Kate. This show is nothing more than a circus of Kate's tantrums, meltdowns, and pleads.

I am just so appalled that people actually think continuing the show would benefit the kids. Money isn't everything, Kate, er I mean PR, er I mean sheeple. It would be one thing if KON were saving money that they earned, but that is not the case. OPEN YOUR EYES!!!

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They are being paid for episodes right? Everything they have has been donated or paid for by TLC right? Their vacations are paid for by TLC right? So what exactly are they doing with the money if they are not saving it? Who cares if its nothing more than a circus with Kate as the star? Those kids are going to have a better future because she is willing to look like an idiot on TV. Money isn't everything, an education is the most important thing. HOWEVER you need money for an education and the kids will have no shortage of money for their futures.

Snerk said...

I live in LALA Land so lots of famous people around. Would I hire Britney's gardeners because they were Britney's gardeners? Not a chance. I drove around the neighborhood until I found a couple of yards I liked and asked them if they'd mind letting me have the info for their gardeners.

People who stop and think do not blindly follow what some celebrity says or does. That says a lot to me about notanytimesoon.

Yeah, gonna get right on calling Carla to help me set up my next yard sale, too. Carla might get some business if she hasn't signed a confidentialty agreement so people can get some dirt on Kate. Dirt is big out here.

Snerk said...

HOWEVER you need money for an education and the kids will have no shortage of money for their futures.


I like assumptions. They entertain me. First, you assume Jon and Kate are saving money. Second you assume that the kids will go to college. Third you assume that Jon and Kate will pay for this college education.

If Jon and Kate were serious about providing for their kids they would have or have set up trust funds for each and deposit each kids share of the family business in it now as they've earned it.

HOMs go to college at a rate of about 5%. The tups are healthier than average so that means maybe one or two of them will go to college if the statistics apply to them. Neither parent finished college so that doesn't help either.

Finally Kate would have to be willing to part with the money to fund college. I really wonder if she would.

Tazznum1 said...

I don't want the show to go on. I think they are VERY set financially. I don't think they pay for 1 bill for their family now.

Electric = paid by TLC
Car maintenance/gas = paid by TLC
HOUSE PAYMENT = PAID BY TLC BECAUSE IT IS A SET WHERE IT IS SHOT. Just like when someone who has a business running out of their house.
Food = already being provided by TLC
House insurance = already being paid by TLC because of higher risks involved.


I can go on and on. But yes, I think TLC is footing the bill on the new mortgage payments or putting in a large chunk because of the space that now will be dedicated for the couch time etc. Think about it folks.

Tazznum1 said...

I thought they had scholarships already for the tups. That is why if Kate moved out of PA they would forfeit them. Besides labor laws.

KatesLipsRMovinShesLyinAgain said...

They were once on the Today Show promoting something-anyway. Earlier in the show they had done a story on a couple who split all things they do in half so they feel equal in their relationship. They asked John and Kate if things were equal in their house and Kate popped up and said they do everything 50/50. Now I have not watched the whole series, but it seems like the times I have watched it Kate has this support team of people helping her, and if Jon is around she shoves the kids on him to handle. Like when they were buying the "big kid beds" and she couldnt handle watching the kids AND making the choice.

So to the people who watch the show, do you think they split all they do 50/50? RoFl

RuthinVA said...

I don't think Kate and Jon have the money saved most think. For the first 2 or 3 seasons I doubt they earned anymore than they would have earned if they worked. You can't compare them to a real celebrity, the money isn't even close. I am sure they are making more than they ever dreamed of but they haven't made enough to pay for schooling for 8 and live in the life style they have become accustom for the rest of their lives. Although, I think they would like for us to believe they have plenty of money. Just like they believe they are real celebrities. I also think they are young and what is a lot of money to them is not a lot of money to some.

avasmommy said...

Money, Money, Money, --

I agree that education is highly important and you need money in order to get that education. However, it should not be the children's jobs to earn that income by sacrificing their childhood. When two people opt to have children, it is their responsibility to do what is needed to provide for their children. It is not vice versa. KON are being supported by their 8 kids. That is not right in any standards. The kids may have a good education because of the money they earned as children, but that doesn't at all mean that they will have a good future. I predict many physchological issues in their future on top of other things. How weill they learn that money and perks in life come from working hard rather than being greedy. Sure, they are not greedy, it is their parents, but that is what they see every day from the two people who are supposed to be teaching them morals and life lessons. Instead they are teaching them how to accept handouts, lie to thousands of people, and scam people out of their hard earned money.

Stop defending KON. They are sick, sick people. What will it take for people to realize this? It just doesn't make any sense that the sheeple can't see this.

RadioHead said...

Snerk said:

I like assumptions. They entertain me. First, you assume Jon and Kate are saving money. Second you assume that the kids will go to college. Third you assume that Jon and Kate will pay for this college education.

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Right On!!!

Could not have said it better myself.

AUNTY K.K. said...

To get back onto topic.
I do think this will be the last year of the taping.
Why? Cannot tell you, because it's just a strong 'feelin'.
You know the type of 'feeling' you get sometimes, but then ignore, just to have that "something" come true, and you say to yourself, ..oh ya, I'd thought about that a while ago, but just ignored my "thoughts".
So, that's my opinion.

Then with reguard to their finances.
I don't think K/J are the best 'budget" people around.
So, there is probably a lot of money in the bank, (esp. since they get just about every thing free right now), BUT, and that's a big BUT, they've adjusted to a 'rich and famous' lifestyle, and that in itself may 'use up' a lot of their finances, once the show does stop, if they don't change their 'lifestyle'.

I do think it will be for the "best" for the children. Right now they cannot go anywhere without people knowing them, therefore, they cannot be "living a normal life".

In a few years, (as that is how long it will take for the 'public' to 'forget them some'), hopefully , they 'll be able to 'walk around' like the average child/teenager.

AND, I hope some of the money goes to counselling...as even the child actor(s), get counselling once a show stops, to ensure they 'readjust' to normal living.
If the children don't get 'counselling', and the show stops, I fear for their emotions and where their lives will go...as stopping all that attention, and all the 'PERKS" with all the "TV crew family", will be a big SHOCK!(As I'm sure the 'crew' will have other jobs and not see them very often--sure, some will keep in contact, but not seeing them 3-5 days a week, 6-10 hours a day,--is not the same).
This is the children's FAMILY right now, and the "loss" will be HUGE once they leave...counselling with a big "C" is in order!

God Bless the children!

I apologize for the length today!

Tazznum1 said...

Kate would love you Ruth. Just as long as people think that way, they can still as for "love offerings."

I think it's bologna that they are not set up very very well, personally.

Ravello said...

The show cannot end soon enough for me, the kids have been exploited and pimped out for money way too long. KON will hang on as long as they possibly can but kindergarten seems a logical ending point for regular episodes. I predict the show format will change from "seasons" and many episodes to specials a few times a year. Then at some point even that will end.
Their 15 minutes is almost up.

IMO, Kate's personality and attitude will be the deciding factor to pull the plug. She is repulsing the masses with her negativity, hateful attitude, Kate being Kate. Who wants to sit and watch that shrew complain, pity herself, berate her husband, mistreat or ignore her kids. There is no likeability with Kate.

TLC has to be concerned, Kate comes off horribly when compared to Amy Roloff and Michelle Duggar. Never in a million years did I expect to like Michelle, but she is so upbeat, kind, friendly, hard working.
And I have always loved Amy Roloff and respected her for the struggles in life she has overcome. She genuinely loves her family and life. She is inspirational.

Kate is just a shrew. And as far as the financial situation later on, Kate and Jon are able bodied adults. She is a registered nurse and worked in dialysis. My Sunday paper is full of help wanted ads for nurses and dialysis is one of the highest paying jobs in nursing. Jon supposedly worked in IT. They can both go to work like the rest of us. They can alternate shifts so someone is home most of the time.

Virginia said...

I truly thought this would be the last season because KI is ready to be sent to the loony bin any moment as evidenced by her bizarre behavior and frequent zoned out periods. Can not imagine what TLC thinks they are doing except that they have now made themselves into the freak show channel and so Kon fits right into that mileu. TLC, like Kon, must be all abotu making a buck off the backs of these kids and to hell with them when they've been used up and spit out.

Not Anytime Soon, OMG, do you really think this is making the best out of a situation for these children? Yeah, I want to be an 18year old or 14 year old boy and have everybody seeing me and my dad remove a fecal impaction. I want to be Mady at 12 and have all the kids tease me because my mom calls me ugly and stupid. Are you kidding me?

Snerk said...

Ruth in VA you are so right. I heard that the first couple seasons they were only "paid" by the freebie of the episode. That is free admittance and food for the park they went to or the furniture or side of beef was either given by the store or paid by TLC. Starting season 3 they received a salary for each episode which was decent but nothing like the numbers people throw around (reduce to 10% or less of what I've seen put out there). Thank you Sharla for not perpetuating internet rumors. Season four they received a substantial bump but still not to the internet rumored level.

Remember they have to pay taxes (substantial), pay the PR firm, pay the lawyer, and agent. These people all usually take a percentage of the gross. What they have left should enable them if saved and invested well (oh yes pay the financial advisor) to live a decent life possibly or one of them may need to work. It will not allow for vacations to the presidential swuite of the GW on Mauii with all the trimmings. Their lifestyle will be curtailed when the show ends. They will have to feed, clothe, and educate 10 children for years to come. Now they've added support a lovely, very, very large house to the mix.

IrishNYC said...

Kate will try to milk to as long as she can. All the kids in school? Look how tough life is to clean up after them when they're out of the house! Look at us try to squeeze in 6 vacations over limited school breaks! Look at how bad the economy sucks and we have to struggle to feed 8 kids!

Or what I dread happening... Watch as the Kon adopts more babies!

Maya said...

Money isn't everything, an education is the most important thing. HOWEVER you need money for an education

HOWEVER you do NOT need to exploit your children in order to have money. Did you know that there are tons of large families who manage to send their children to college without having stolen their childhoods to do so? Oh yeah, it's true! And having multiple children in college simultaneously will result in drastically reduced tuitions.

Someone upthread said that if the show ends, the children will live in poverty. Here's another incredible truth: there are tons of large families who actually enjoy a middle-class lifestyle without having stolen their children's childhoods to do so! That's true, too! Wow!

ICExpoitation said...

No, I just hate all the negativity surrounding Jon and Kate. Why does everybody hate them for taking their situation and making the best out of it?

Exploiting their children?

Give me a break. They never even tried "making the best" of their situation.

Using their children was easier.

RuthinVA said...

Snerk said.....Remember they have to pay taxes (substantial), pay the PR firm, pay the lawyer, and agent. These people all usually take a percentage of the gross. What they have left should enable them if saved and invested well (oh yes pay the financial advisor) to live a decent life possibly or one of them may need to work. It will not allow for vacations to the presidential swuite of the GW on Mauii with all the trimmings. Their lifestyle will be curtailed when the show ends. They will have to feed, clothe, and educate 10 children for years to come. Now they've added support a lovely, very, very large house to the mix.

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Exactly,
When you are young their are so many things you have not gone through and don't think of. It would actually amaze me if Jon or Kate are aware of the amount they pay out. Whoever said somthing about the heating and cooling, suppose they heat with gas (bottled or natual) the pool and the house. What happens when that goes even higher and it will, so they could go from gas bills of $500. per month to $1500. per month. Remember, a loaf of bread used to be a nickle. If they live until the are 80, just inflation.
I don't care who your financial advisor is if you had any money of late you now have substantially less.

0-HotHead-0 said...

Maybe they'll just call it quits? Maybe they've made enough money that they can just retire, cancel the show, and live life in their luxurious mansion? I kind of doubt it, but that would be sort of cool.

AUNTY K.K. said...

I have a question and not sure if it should be in this post, or in the question post.

With ALL the FREE TRIPS and GIFTS, don't the Gosselins have to pay taxes on all of that?

I live in Canada, so it's very different here, but I understand in the USA, if you receive a gift/trip/or anything FREE you MUST pay taxes. Even in game/shows, if one wins, they've got to be able to pay the 'taxes' first before receiving the 'gifts'. (If I won in the USA, I'd have to pay these 'taxes' but then upon my return to Canada, we'd apply for the 'return of the taxes'--apparently there's something like that for you in the USA...if you buy merchandize in Canada, you can apply for tax returns once you go back to the USA...you don't have to do that with our game shows, as all of our winnins don't require tax payments---you get what you win).

SO, Is this true?

If so, how do they account for the $25,000 for EACH church appearance, along with the "love offering"? (They received one 'love offering' as recently as Nov. 2008)?

I cannot 'fathom' the amount of taxes for 2008, all the church appearances, all the trips, all the free clothes, the free hair cuts, (mind you they only go to the 'tups' are 5, unless it's changed), all the 'free' items/gifts...and on and on it goes. How much would they pay for all this, even in 2008?

HOW does this work friends?

Karen Wilson from PA said...

"Why does everybody hate them for taking their situation and making the best out of it?"

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Hate is a very strong word. I don't hate them. But I don't respect them, watch them, encourage TLC to keep the show going. I have no respect for people who bring children into the world and have no intention of being responsible for them. The ONLY reason that they have any money whatsoever is because of their children... this show isn't going anywhere anytime soon BECAUSE the parents will never allow it so long as the money keeps rolling in. They "believe" that they are doing what is right for their children but know deep down that it isn't. They don't know how to stop the train. They have gone too far and it really is too late to turn back.

Think about it. They would have to grovel and ask for everyone's forgiveness. Do you REALLY see Kate doing that? I highly doubt it.

It is a shame that people like them are held up to such a high regard. They ARE NOT role models. Do you honestly what your kids to grow up and be parents like the Gosselins? Snippy, a sense of entitlement...snarking on everyone? I don't.

SAHM said...

Even if the show ends any time soon, i don't think that is the last of the Gosselins that we will see. I think that they have gotten too comfortable w/ a lifestyle that neither of them can maintain on a IT Tech/Nurses Salary. So either Kate will run in the direction of trying to make a brand name of herself or she will put the twins or tups into acting. OR both for that matter. Either way i think that we will continue seeing them in the public eye unfortunately.

Snerk said...

I could be wrong, but I think Kate's addicted to the money from the show. I think she's also addicted to the perks. Addicted may be strong, but you get the idea. I think she's one of the "celebrities" who will have to be dumped by the network. She doesn't seem the type who can walk away from a dime. So sad, but looks like it to me.

As soon as this show drops below the profit margin, it's history. Each season Kate and her agents will ask for more money. The production company employees will likely want raises increasing production costs. Travel budgets increase. Each season viwership will likely continue it's current decline. Fewer viewers equals less advertising dollars. When the breakeven point is approached or reached, sayonara Kate. It's a simple economic equation. TLC will not lose money putting the show on the air.

Julie Moore said...

ICExpoitation said Give me a break. They never even tried "making the best" of their situation.

Using their children was easier.
___________________________

Exactly. Jon and Kate would do ANYTHING for their kids including pipping them out.

For people to say in this economy, you would do anything. I beg to differ. I would never allow my children's privacy to be violated not for any amount of money. MONEY is not everything. Yes, we all need it but plenty of us survive without displaying our children on TV like they are some kind of freak show.

Shame on TLC and shame on Kate and Jon for NEVER listening to anyone else's advice and stopping this madness.

Maya said...

Maybe they'll just call it quits? Maybe they've made enough money

Narcissists NEVER have enough... enough money, enough attention, enough admiration, enough praise, enough recognition, enough attention, etc.

I agree that she is someone who is just going to have to be dumped when the time comes.

Dee Dee said...

The only way KON would cancel the show is if the kids all refuse to participate anymore, as in no more making cute for the cameras. TLC will only cancel it when the ratings start to fall.

luvmykids said...

In regards to Jon and Kate's financial situation....

I would think that eventually (and I hope it's soon) the freebies will stop. I would love to be there when Kate HAS TO actually pull out the check book and pay utilities, a mortgage and clothing, food and entertainment for five teenage girls and three teenage boys?

The "fame" with end soon enough and with it the freebies. They'll have to start paying on their own.(please, please, please, please!)

Snerk said...

The ratings are already falling. They obviously haven't fallen enough yet. They will.

Nadia said...

Snerk said

"HOM go to college at about a rate of 5%."

I am very curious as to where you got this info from, as a mother of multiples, and a mentor for our Multiple Birth's Club for my area I am very well informed on such things and would love to read more about it if you have a link or anything of that nature that I could look into. I have never heard anything like that. Thanx

I think that the sooner this show ends the better, but in a way I would like it to go long enough to watch the fall out that we all know is going to happen someday soon. I kind-of want to see Kate fall on her face, I am just hoping that karma comes to bite them in the a** but I do not want to see those kids hurt anymore then they already have.

ruthy said...

In regards to their financial situation...

I hope they have been wise with their money. I would love to be there when Kate has to write a check for utilities and upkeep on the new house. The freebies aren't going to last forever. Can you imagine having to buy clothing, food and entertainment for five teenage girls and three teenage boys.

RuthinVA said...

Tazznum1 said...
Kate would love you Ruth. Just as long as people think that way, they can still as for "love offerings."


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Kate wouldn't love me, she and I would not make it in the same room for 5 minutes. Or as Kate would say it: Her and I wouldn't make in the same room for 5 minutes.
I personally think anyone that is aware of the new house would be stupid to donate to her love offerings. Although, there are too many people that sit back and believe Kate's stories. I am not saying they have not made money. i am saying they have not made the amount of money it takes to live the way they are now living. I logically know it is not enough to live like they are living now, not forever and then adding schooling to the mix. Someone posted the value of their new house had already dropped by almost 1/2 million since October (which I find hard to believe, I guess they were using tax records and the current market)
That is how easily they could be wiped out.
I do not understand why having enough money to live on forever is a prerequisite for the show to stop
or a prerequisite to stop love offerings.

lifeoriley said...

I know it's a moot point, but the show SHOULD'VE ended after the first season. As for when it actually will end, I give it about another year, tops. It's just not very interesting anymore, even if you see nothing wrong with exploiting the kid's childhoods, what is compelling about the show now? Even for those who think Kate's antics make for interesting viewing, how long before viewers tire of her shenanigans?
All shows eventually come to an end--even the most popular ones.
What will become of the G's and their financial situation? Don't know, really. A lot of assumptions are being made about how much money they have saved and what they actually will do with said money. There are no laws in Pa requiring the kids to have money set aside specifically for them. It is also NOT a requirement that your parents fund your college education-- or pay for your wedding, etc. So to those that say the kids are better off for the show--IMO, you are assuming a lot--especially for what we have already seen are the character of the parents.

RuthinVA said...

you are assuming a lot--especially for what we have already seen are the character of the parents.
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Amen

Snerk said...

Nadia, I copied parts of the article but not the name or the source. My apologies. Also it was 5% graduate not start four year education. I was searching for adult outcomes for high order multiples and premature infants if that helps. It may be the prematurity more than being HOM per se that contributes to the lowered outcome.

Aunty KK, as I understand the tax code and I'm not an accountant but married to one, if the item is given to someone in return for something such as Gap clothes in return for the kids wearing them on the show, then it is taxable. The company is expecting advertising in return for the clothes. If it is a true gift, absolutely nothing is expected in return - your mother gives you a sweater, then it is not taxable.

According to Mr. Snerk, all speaking fees or love offerings at the churches should be reported on a 1099 or else the churches would be in jeopardy of losing the tax exempt status with the IRS.

Nadia said...

Thank you Snerk, I will google it: ) My boys were born at 29 weeks, and there are serveral HOM in my group born at 24, 25, 26 weeks and so on. So things like that hit home for me. My boys all have PDD and my one son is nearly blind in one eye due to complications. I am always wondering what the future may hold for them.

lisak said...

I think the show will end soon and it should, but when it does Kate will never admit why it ended, she will just say it was her idea to end the show.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Avasmommy,

Yes, you are right. Money isn't everything. But, to Kate it is. The love of money, is the root of all evil. Kate loves money, more than she loves her children or Jon.
Kate doesn't care about people's feelings. Alls Kate cares about is Kate.

We have all opened our eyes to the "real" Kate. I think that Kate knows that people are seeing her for what she really is, fake Kate.
Hopefully, the stress will get to her, and she will end the show.

Snerk said...

Best of luck to you and your boys, Nadia. I sometimes wonder about the very early birth children. We almost had one but thankfully our doctor was able to get us to 37 weeks instead of the 24 weeks where I went into the labor the first time. Actually 20 weeks was the first time, but viability wasn't a consideration at that point. I think that's another reason Kate's whining about the bed rest, hospitalization, and carrying the tups gets on my nerves. I had 17 weeks of bedrest and I can't remember whining altogether as much as Kate did in one paragraph. It was necessary, just get on with it and deal.

MilkMaid said...

First off- Thank you GWOP for making this subject a post. I feel that the show will last one more season. Just really hope that those sham parents are putting back mega bucks for the childrens future.I also think that Kate is being showen front and center by the media at the moment. She will "strike while the iron is hot" to continue in some sort of fashion on a tv series.

Yolanda said...

The Roloff kids are in school and that show is still going strong. They will be filming the tups in school - mark my word. And there's always the weekends and evenings and all the drama that surrounds school - homework, Parent/teacher meetings, school sports, plays, etc. I don't think this show is going away for a long time. For some strange reason, many people *like* this show. And even if it does go away, there's always reruns.

PRE-K TEACHER said...

2 thoughts...

1)It has been mentioned that Kate might consider holding them back because of their early birth date...actually a May birthday is really streching for an excuse to hold them back. We generally worry more about July and August kids who meet the September 1st deadline. I would venture to say the J/K might think about keeping them in PreK full time, as this schedule would allow them more freedom. There is not any regulations at the pre-school level of how many days students can be out of school.
I would worry about the kids maturity level not because they were premature but because they have not been exposed to important skills and discipline due to lack of parenting.

2) Many of you are mentioning about J/K paying for their college? I thought they had full scholarships for college?

Get a clue said...

The Governor of Pennsylvania set up accounts for the tups. I think they're called TAP funds. People could donate to them, but there is no way for people outside the family to know how much if anything is in them. They aren't scholarships, but an account that any parent could set up in case they or family members wished to establish a college fund.

MomInTX said...

I have a very bad feeling that Kate and Jon are not setting any money aside for the kids. They will hold it over their heads forever or will use excuses such as, "I earned the money by taking care of you." She won't see it the way it really is, that they started filming because the kids were so cute and likable.
I'd love to know their ratings. Since this website has 2 million hits, that's gotta hurt a cable show with only a few million viewers, at most.

Get a clue said...

The last episode where I saw the ratings was in December and it had slightly more than 2.5 million viewers.

The End said...

How I'd like to see the show end.

It would be titled 'Packing it in Day.

Like most shows of recent it would have Jon and Kate arguing and packing up the van for the next "freebie" trip.

When the van is all packed and the kids settled in their seats with a snack Jon looks at Kate and asks "Where's my keys?" - "I gave you my keys where are they?"

Kate looks nervously around and says to Jon "I'll be right back", and she heads towards the garage.

Jon quickly slams the doors of the van shut and screeches out of the driveway.

The last shot is of Kate running after the van.

The end.

Hey a girl can wish can't she?

cheryl said...

With a little planning, they will never live in proverty.
Each million banked probably earns about $50,000 interest yr or about
$4000 month times ## millions.
They are not hurting.
The house will probably be reassessed by the selling price.
We hear of large families - called success stories. They work at creating foundations for the family to build on.
The g's live a narrow tunnel vision life - which is sad -
few outside interests to draw experiences from. IMHO

Hannah A. Parent said...

So just for clarity and to help me understand better...
The State of Pennsylvania just set up accounts for the
G kids, in expectations for others to deposit money into? The state isn't providing them with free college tuition then?

Nadia said...

The End, I love it except that Kate would never get off her a** to get the Keys, she would just scream at her man servent until he got them. Maybe he should tell her that there is a spa gift Cert on the counter for her.

AUNTYK.K. said...

Thanks for the laugh, "THE END", where Jon takes off in the van, with Kate chasing...I needed the laugh.

Where do you find the ratings?
I cannot find them, can you let us know where, or what you do, to find them. Also, is there any spot to see 'previous ratings' so we can compare and see either decreases or increases, in viewing?

Thanks all.

Sydney said...

We can't really know how long TLC will drag this out. Maybe if all the kids realize what only Mady seems to know, they too will stop smiling, laughing, playing and talking kindly to others. Mady knows more than even her parents know. She is obviously ashamed, embarrassed, and plain pissed that they have given up privacy and a normal family life.

lisak said...

http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/2009/janfeb/1.22.html?start=4
These interviews just keep coming. I think they take their questions from this site, because it seems like everything commented on here, turns into a question in an interview somewhere. Kate says the show will stop when God says it will stop, huh!

Denise said...

Frankly, I do not think KON bought the house. I think TLC bought this huge estate for KON several reason.
1 Kate's bitching, obviously
2 More room for filming
3 KON has no intention of staying in Berks County indefinitely
4 KON is only staying there until there new home in NC is identified or built.
TLC likes Kate's evil behavior because, in their minds, it makes a good show. Note that the same night, we have the Duggars, a stark contrast to KON. I think viewers find the Duggars refreshing and watch KON because it enhances their enjoyment of the Duggars (Evil vs. Good).

I think the only way the show will end is when some form of tragedy ensues. I hate to say it, but I think that's how it will go down.

AUNTY K.K. said...

Here's some of the answers Kate gave to the "4 page", "Q & A" articule found here:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/2009/janfeb/1.22.html?start=4


Kate: The life we're leading is so not what we envisioned back when we got married or even after we had the babies. Friends, family, neighbors—nobody understands our strange life. Jon's the only one who gets it. He's in my corner. And that's so wonderful.


And another statement from Kate: I don't go to the office and come home; the "office" is always there.
Over the years, if anybody sent me money just for me, I saved it. But a couple months ago, I told Jon I'm using that money to go to the spa once a month. He was all for it. I get a massage and a pedicure. Of course, I still feel guilty leaving him and the kids, but I look forward to that time like you wouldn't believe.



Me, AUNTY K.K. says;
Boy, if you read the articule and didn't know anything about Kate/Jon, you'd think they were great Christians. Except for the line in the first paragraph above,.."friends/family/neighbours"don't understand us.....humm.m..so God says to ISOLATE yourself and your children from everybody? AND to 'hoard' money for "self-gratification", (spa's & such)and take $$ from churches, and others, when so many others, esp. Americans', are suffering right now? How many people have had spa's/manicures/massages? I think I've had 1-2 professional massages, and I've never had a manicure/pedicure...my money is always going to help others.

Wow..sometimes I don't know what to think about this family!

MikeMom said...

I think the show will end when the kids are in school full time. Then, Kate will have marketed herself as a writer, speaker, etc. She will become the bread winner in the family. She will continue to make money off her family by writing cookbooks, family stories, selling their pictures, and if need be selling their stuff at garage sales. She will travel all over, hither and beyond by limo because she hate driving and will only be home on the weekends. A personal assistant will accompany her so she doesn't get lost in the airports. She will continue to have delusional thoughts of look at me and all I can handle, although she really can handle nothing. The time she is home will be spent cooking organic food to freeze so the kids and Jon will have something to eat while she is gone. Jon will be a full time dad, staying home to raise the children. He will bathe, feed, and play games with them, get them off to school. When Kate comes homes on the weekends Jon will have the children lined up so she can give them the hugs and kisses and then start berating Jon for their mismatched clothes, dirty fingernails, and unkept hair. Hanny will plop herself on her mommy's lap with a cupcake and the two of them will spend the weekend together. The rest of the family will try to stay out of her way. Hopefully by this time Jon will have figured out that Kate is the one who needs her own bedroom so he banishes her to the basement.

Nadia said...

Thanks for the link, I should read that before every meal. I would lose some weight, I mean who could eat when they are full of her crap! How she doesn't gag on her own words is beyond me! I guess it is not longer "up to the kids" when they stop the show, now it is up to someone that she has an even easier time ignoring. Dont worry Kate, that will come back to bite you.

Shell76 said...

About the tups starting kindergarten, I think Kate will wait the extra year. Some of the kids may be ready for it (Leah), but it would be a wonder if all six are ready. I don't think Kate could deal with the "imbalance" of starting some of them earlier than the others. For anyone here with HOM, is it unusual for multiples to be in different grades?

alana said...

I don't think this horrible show will end until Kate thinks she has enough (of the children's) money to split it with Jon so she can then split from their phony marriage.
I have a feeling - not an assumption - that Kate is living an entirely separate life from Jon and the kids. I think it's possible that her frequent trips out of town by herself presented an opportunity for her to begin to plan a future without Jon. Someone who is totally freaked out at the thought of driving a few miles with five children to a pottery lesson but then doesn't make a peep when faced with a national book tour, may be getting inspiration and motivation by something other than her bible. For someone who makes a living off of her bitching whining and moaning, I do think it's strange we don't get an earful of from-the-couch travel nightmare stories being the cross she must bear in being the martyr of the two who is forced to endure these weekends for the continued success of their book. I think it's possible Kate has her own "financial planner" who is not the same one she and Jon use together and when the show ends she'll be set for life. After all, Kate is all about planning - for herself.
Just MHO.

CatWoman said...

This site is Waaay better than th TWoP thread, Btw. THANK YOU for it.
On topic: these comments are very insightful. I agree with all (except Dont want the show to End) or whoever you Are (PR person/KG) TLC is out TO MAKE $$ (just like KON) and will NOT keep the show on the air one millisecond longer than what is in THEIR best interests ; meaning TLC and THEIR bottom line. Hence, the show WON'T go on...
I adopted from Korea in the late 80's (went on to have several bio children also, but I had them SEPEARATELY so no freebies like QFI) anyhow: IMO any agency who would release a child to KON, no matter WHAT spin Kon tried to sell them, or what fee paid (yes KON, you have to PAY, and big)--well I think that agency should have its license immediately pulled. I would go so far as to say, IF they managed to adopt, and IF I were to be able to find out from WHOM/what agency (the way we can find out easily what sponsors support these freaks)--I would not hesitate to at least write them and express my utter dismay, AND inform them I will now be calling the local agencies to make SURE "someone" /some Entity does THOROUGH follow-up on that poor, unsuspecting child that would be UNlucky enuf, yes UNlucky, to be brought in to that wackjob of a home. From what I learned from my adoption process, the people in Korea (as in the Phillippines, SOuth America and elsewhere,) make that heartwrenching decision to GIVE UP their own flesh and blood for one reason and one reason ONLY: "so that child can have a BETTER LIFE in America." THAT is how we are seen around the world, as BETTER . I can only imagine what the birth parents would think if they found out down the line that their birth child went to KON, AND then found out about the KON circus. They would be filled with fear, as most of US are at the spectacle we are now witnessing with KON's own bio kids
These adoptions are most always Closed, however.
WHole thing is scary and sad. I have said it before (and not had my comment listd) BUT: Kate esp NEEDS HELP. And NOT domestic-type help.
Her kids esp the twins , are already Fl**ked up, **IMO**

Zoey said...

the freak show channel aka TLC is coming out with another Show that exploits children even more than the gosselins. Its called Toddlers and Tiara's.
and the previews are VERY disturbing.
maybe this will take the time slot of KON

Midnight Madness said...

"In PA, they might spend when all the TLC perks go away, maybe $5k a month on living expenses. Food, electric, taxes etc."

In your dreams! Try doubling that!

Lisa said...

I think the show will stop when TLC decides to end it, for whatever reason. Low ratings after people have had enough of the peep show maybe? People telling TLC that they've seen enough and are turned off by the attitudes shown on the show maybe? Possibly the children will start to fuss more as they get a few years older and beg not to be filmed weekly?

I doubt that Jon or Kate will do anything to end the show themselves, it's too much of a money maker in their eyes and it allows them to live a rather easy lifestyle of free vacations, freebies in the home and a platform for their speaking engagements and books. Even when the 6 go to kindergarten, they're still home in the evenings and on weekends and all summer. That's enough time to get footage to maintain the show. Maybe not as many new shows as now but there are plenty of reruns to mix in too.

Denise said...

alana said...
I don't think this horrible show will end until Kate thinks she has enough (of the children's) money to split it with Jon so she can then split from their phony marriage. I have a feeling - not an assumption - that Kate is living an entirely separate life from Jon and the kids. I think it's possible that her frequent trips out of town by herself presented an opportunity for her to begin to plan a future without Jon. Someone who is totally freaked out at the thought of driving a few miles with five children to a pottery lesson but then doesn't make a peep when faced with a national book tour, may be getting inspiration and motivation by something other than her bible. For someone who makes a living off of her bitching whining and moaning, I do think it's strange we don't get an earful of from-the-couch travel nightmare stories being the cross she must bear in being the martyr of the two who is forced to endure these weekends for the continued success of their book. I think it's possible Kate has her own "financial planner" who is not the same one she and Jon use together and when the show ends she'll be set for life. After all, Kate is all about planning - for herself.

Alana, I think you are right about this. Your points are very valid. She does have her own life and only cares about profiting off the kids - not about THEM. I do NOT believe she loves them. They are mere commodities to set herself up financially for life. She will dump Jon-boy well before he dumps her. As another poster pointed out, in the Hawaii vow renewal show, one of the kids walked to her and she said to him/her: "I don't want you." What kind of a mother is this? Not a mother; rather, an evil woman who is a sociopath.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Lisak,

"Kate says the show will stop when God says it will stop."

So, in other words, the show will stop when "KATE" says it will stop.

RuthinVA said...

alana said...
I don't think this horrible show will end until Kate thinks she has enough (of the children's) money to split it with Jon so she can then split from their phony marriage.
I have a feeling - not an assumption - that Kate is living an entirely separate life from Jon and the kids. I think it's possible that her frequent trips out of town by herself presented an opportunity for her to begin to plan a future without Jon.

_______________________

Maybe she can find a nice psychiatrist or psychologist to marry.

RuthinVA said...

To Mikemon,

That was very funny!

nomorekon said...

Stop defending KON. They are sick, sick people. What will it take for people to realize this? It just doesn't make any sense that the sheeple can't see this.

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Another unbelievable thing about the sheeple : they support/encourage their own children to watch the show as if KON are role models to emulate.

Midnight Madness said...

I think perhaps that you are forgetting that, when TLC funding ends, there is not only the basic cost of living expenses, taxes, electric, etc., but also the cost of other "help" needed to run the household, such as indoor cleaning assistance, their cooks, pool maintenance (chemicals, pool service which easily could run in excess of $1,000 a month from May through October, and if the pool is heated -- the cost of either electric or gas), grounds upkeep (estimated at more than a thousand per month), and the list goes on. Then there's the private school tuition, clothing, and everything else required by a family of ten. I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but you get the idea!

JoshDuggar said...

It should end today-- but as Kate told TCW, she just lets God lead her....

Tammy H. said...

Hopefully it will end before too much more damage is done to those kids. They have no idea what it's like to live a "normal" life...and it will take them a while to adjust to the camera's not being there but in the long run, that will be better for them. I think we will probably see a few episodes where the tups' are in Kindergarten and how they are adjusting but more than likely, just like someone else posted, I wouldn't doubt if Kate kept them out another year, just to have another "season" on tv.

zoey said...

im sure the show will end when the 6 have signs of stress. Im sure mady and cara are rarely seen now because they dont want to be... and when they are seen, cara does that nervous eye twitch thing and mady is having a meltdown. How can they have a show when the twin AND sextuplets are constantly twitching.

AnnaD said...

Jon will work with Kate to end the show when it is right with God's plan. We wouldn't do our show if it weren't for God and his holy plan for us and his everlasting glory.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

It's not God's plan. It's Kate's plan. Kate keeps getting confused about that.

God would not plan to let eight children be exploited.

NEliseH said...

I think its going to end when TLC finds a way to pull the plug. There is no way that Kate will agree for the show to end or let Jon agree for the show to end. Sad to say, I don't think the kids will benefit from one little penny of the money unless it benefits Kate.

Kristen Hinson Photography said...

Zoey said...
the freak show channel aka TLC is coming out with another Show that exploits children even more than the gosselins. Its called Toddlers and Tiara's and the previews are VERY disturbing. maybe this will take the time slot of KON

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That show was a one-episode special that aired a few months ago

Travis Noodle said...

If the show is cancelled, Kate will hire a PR firm to represent "their" side of the story and trash the TLC network.

Or Kate would be so "exhausted" from taping that she gets some sort of hosting job on HGTV or Food Network. I see her as some sort of homemaking expert.

Kate is in the public spotlight and I have a feeling she won't be leaving it soon.

The con continues. Kate is a beeotch and I hate it when bad behavior is rewarded.

notafan said...

I definitely think they should end the regular series when the kids are in school full time. They could do an annual update show or even a few specials during the year, but a weekly show about a family with all the kids in school? Yawn.

I hope Kate doesn't decide to homeschool just to keep the show going!

justsomeinfo said...

I concur, Snerk. I'm no fan of KON, but the rumoured figures I've seen online for the income they generate for the production of the show are far off base. I (like you, I assume) work in entertainment in L.A. and have negotiated cable deals (never one for TLC though), and, as you mentioned, even on the most popular cable shows principals are paid 1/10th of what people speculate here that the Gs make. Also guys, remember this is not a SAG show (I assume, since it's on TLC, and rather unfortunately so, or the kids would be protected). As such, there are no mandated statutory minimum payments, residuals, syndication monies, etc. which is where the guaranteed minimum money and protection comes from for real tv celebrities.

As well, the Gs don't appear to have had the brains or opportunity (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, though the former is more likely) to have negotiated for a producer's share (i.e., ownership interest in the copyright), thus I assume they have none, which is where the bulk of income from a successful show flows. Thus, I guestimate that they get a healthy 4 figure per episode fee, a comparable location fee for use of their house (unlikely TLC bought the house but location fee likely covers cost), some expense fees, a smallish percentage on DVD sales and lotsa perks. We are talking a nice gig if you can get it, but not Seinfeld or Friends money here, folks. Not even close.

This is a cable show with regional advertisers, not a network show running national spots. And even though the show is very popular, the scale is simply not the same.

I'm not sticking up for them - Just my .02 for the people getting upset about this!... :)

Snerk said...
Ruth in VA you are so right. I heard that the first couple seasons they were only "paid" by the freebie of the episode. That is free admittance and food for the park they went to or the furniture or side of beef was either given by the store or paid by TLC. Starting season 3 they received a salary for each episode which was decent but nothing like the numbers people throw around (reduce to 10% or less of what I've seen put out there). Thank you Sharla for not perpetuating internet rumors. Season four they received a substantial bump but still not to the internet rumored level.

thecloserfan said...

I would like to see the show end right after the family moves in to the konpound.

If you think about it, there's really not much more that can be shown on television about the Gosselin family. Every intimate milestone in the sextuplets lives have been shown on television and even documented on DVD for the world to review for years to come.

The family has gone to Florida, Utah, Tennessee, California and Hawaii. That is more places than most families go to in a lifetime.

Some of the posters have already pointed out that TLC can still film around the Gosselin schedule (IE weekends and after school). But what would be the subject matter? The sextuplets only socialize with each other and you never seen Mady or Cara with any friends. We all know Mady hates sports and the outdoors so she's obviously not in to after school activities. Cara loves sports but nothing is mentioned about her having any extracurricular activities. The sextuplets could be in activities such as T-ball or enroll them in some other class. You can only have so many episodes on Kate making soup.

My point is that the KonArtist train has made its last stop and the sooner TLC realizes it the better.

justsomeinfo said...

Re: Aunty KK's question about taxation on perks:

Technically one would be 1099'd for this - reported as misc. income. However, I would guess a majority of it is classified as a business expense and thus not income.

I'm not a CPA, but I'm fairly certain of the foregoing.

uneducated but smart said...

Zoey said...
the freak show channel aka TLC is coming out with another Show that exploits children even more than the gosselins. Its called Toddlers and Tiara's and the previews are VERY disturbing. maybe this will take the time slot of KON
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A lot of TLC specials can be disturbing to some of us, however, they are just showing us life's reality, not everybody's lives are as perfect as ours.

Serena said...

Zoey said...
the freak show channel aka TLC is coming out with another Show that exploits children even more than the gosselins. Its called Toddlers and Tiara's and the previews are VERY disturbing. maybe this will take the time slot of KON

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Kristen Hinson Photography said...
That show was a one-episode special that aired a few months ago


The one-time special wasn't horrific enough, it IS now a new series scheduled to debut on TLC later this month.

If you check my profile you will see that the blog for it has already been reserved for use in the near future.

Sophia said...

I don't know when it's going to end but I'm sure there will be lots of stories coming out when it does. Especially if it ends when one side still wants to continue. I can just see the True Hollywood Story on E! Kate pointing her finger at TLC/Figure 8 and TLC/Fig8, pointing their finger at her.

In most of Kate's interviews she is smart enough not to say anything negative about TLC/Fig8. She usually says things like she understands that they choose to edit the footage for good tv, they portray the family accurately, etc. She's wise enough not to bite the hand that is currently feeding her.

And on the part of TLC/Fig8, they are making money from advertisers at the moment so I think that they are tolerating and accomodating to Kate's demands. They want her on board as long as advertisers are still willing to pay.

But my guess is once the money stops coming in and the show is done with, we will hear a different story from both sides. Kate will be whining about how TLC/Fig8 made her do this or that, how she and Jon really didn't have control over this or that, etc. And Fig8 will tell how Kate really behaved, how she treated production, etc.

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.

Petra said...

As to when should the show end, the answer is simple: Now. It should never have begun.

As to when will the show end, the answer is also simple: When it is no longer profitable for TLC, meaning, when the ratings and sponsorship drop to where their MBA's have set as the cutoff point for cancellation.

Although with the potential for limitless numbers of channels with digital cable and satellite TV, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that some other upstart freakshow network could pick up the show...albeit, there wouldn't be the same money or mainstream fame in it for J&K.

As to them being set for life, let's look at who we're dealing with. Neither Jon or Kate has any background that would suggest they know how to manage and invest large sums of money, or that they are capable of choosing wisely when it comes to hiring an investment manager. Most likely Kate will listen to the voice in her head for advice on how to manage their finances, certain it's God's voice speaking to her. Jon's father the dentist might have dealt with substantial money (although probably nothing like J&K have)but he's not living, and it's doubtful happy-go-lucky Jon ever paid any attention to his father's business acumen any more than his education and work ethic. Their money will quite likely dissappear similar to what happens when people like that win a big lottery prize...after a few years they're often bankrupt.

As to the kids benefitting financially, in the short run they'll have plenty of toys and clothes...whatever allows Kate to act like she's living the dream. In the long run, it could be rough for the kids. Most likely Jon and Kate will act toward their children as they've convinced themselves their parents acted toward them where money is concerned, i.e. be "unsupportive". J&K are not the type to learn from a negative example, they are the type to repeat it.

zoey said...

I wonder when KON will realize that one of them should get a job if for no other reason than to get health insurance for those kids.
medical expenses will eat up their money

momto5 said...

I truly think this show will stop when people start losing interest and the ratings start to show a downward turn, and that downward turn keeps steady. I do not see J&K stopping this show on their own. TlC will cut the cord, when the show does not benefit them anymore and find a replacement soon after. My hunch is besides the Duggars, TLC might be already looking for that other mega family or unusual family situation to eventually replace J&K+8. There is not much left to film for J&K. I really feel the "new house" episode will sour some more people out. It will hurt their relatability with the common folk even more, and I feel more articles will portray their move to this mini mansion as unessessary, and trying to be wannabe hollyood like celebrity status. They have a right to buy whatever house they want, but it seems this house is over the top and seems to be a fortress for the family from the world. The idea these kids will ever have a normal life after the show will probably never happen. The G's will always have to watch thier backs to keep the kids protected. How sad, all that money and house will imprison them. They would had been better off buying a house out in the country with some privacy, but not have to be a fortress in a neighborhood. As far as her saying the kids deserve this house, she got that right, after the circus life those kids have been livin, they deserve to buy themselves something nice, before mom and dad spend all the cash. The size of the house does not make a house a home, it is the family ties/love that make the house a home. Kate needs to make a sticky note for that. Spoke my peace.

SmartyQ said...

AnnaD said... Jon will work with Kate to end the show when it is right with God's plan. We wouldn't do our show if it weren't for God and his holy plan for us and his everlasting glory.

Zat you, Queen Freebie Irene?

anon1967 said...

No, I just hate all the negativity surrounding Jon and Kate. Why does everybody hate them for taking their situation and making the best out of it?
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because they made the best for Jon & Kate, not for the kids, no matter what anyone says. Kate could have worked, as I doubt she can take care of the kids by herself, and if she goes back to nursing, the only thing that would stop someone from hiring her would be from seeing her actions on TV (I know I wouldn't want her as my nurse). She has her books and speaking trips, if she's as frugal as she says she is, they should be okay without living off the kids, if they hadn't moved into a house with such a large overhead to keep up.
There have been a lot of shows on lately about teen stars and what happened too so and so, which has plenty of evidence (if seeing the effects on them on actual TV isn't enough) to show why this isn't the best for the children.

lifeoriley said...

Re: Third Rock from the Sun said:
"God would not plan to let eight children be exploited."

Amen to that!

Of all the things that Kate does/says-- the "God's plan" stuff drives me absolutely crazy.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe things happen for a reason, but not always the reasons we humans want-- in other words, sometimes you are being tested, sometimes things happen to teach you something. IMO, Kate and Jon Gosselin have failed the test thus far.

Karen said...

uneducated but smart said:

A lot of TLC specials can be disturbing to some of us, however, they are just showing us life's reality, not everybody's lives are as perfect as ours.

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Yeah- TLC keeps on showing us these freakshows, do you ever wonder why? I guess as long as they have viewers like yourself who's willing to defend them they'll keep the Barnum Bailey Freakshow's on the programming schedule.

And by the way my life is no where's near as perfect as I'd like it to be.....Just sayin

Bubba said...

There are so many cases of people doing horrible things in this world in the name of "God".

Kate is just another example....

HeLovesMeToo! said...

Yeah, People are dying today in wars around the world, the world economy is on the brink of collaspe but God sat down and decided that he'd map out a special plan for the KON's. lol

Michelle said...

I absolutely LOVED J&K+8 when it first came out. I mean, how can you not love those adorable kiddies?? But as the seasons went on, I felt more and more uncomfortable with their actions and behaviors. First off, I never wanted to catch myself judging them as parents because haven't we all done something that we *knew* we shouldn't have as parents?? I mean, I've snapped at my husband on MORE than one occasion, that's for sure!

But then they did the potty training episodes. And the pottying in the back of the van. And I felt *really* uncomfortable. These kinds of things should NOT be shown on national tv. These are PRIVATE matters. Not everything is for the public. Then there was the bubble gum incident and I cried. Ya know, whenever I've snapped at my kids I have ALWAYS apologized for my actions. We're all human, we all make mistakes. But being a GOOD parent means owning up to the mistakes you make. They don't ~ EVER.

And as for the "love offerings" and not talking to fans who buy their books and all that other junk? Well, it just reaffirms to me why I do NOT watch this show anymore. I think it's fine if they were filmed once a week but not 4-5 times a week. Their life should NOT be the show. I originally tuned in to see how in the world they managed with that many kids. Well, there's no reason for me to tune in anymore. I could do it too if I had a housekeeper, and gardener, and love offerings... Just sad what money does to people at the expense of their children.

Always Pay on Time said...

Posted by Snerk: " I don't think the county tax assessor is going to waive their taxes..."

I can just hear Kate now....

County Tax Assessor: "Mrs. Gosselin, your home is being auctioned off because you are several years past due on your property taxes !".

Kate: "BUT I PLEAD EIGHT !!! I WAS TOO EXHAUSTED TO PAY TAXES !"

A More Important Question said...

When will the show end?

I have no idea.....but...

When will Jon finally grow a pair, take the children, and leave that freak ?

Anonymous said...

The show should end now, but unfortunately, as long as the Gosselins keep laying golden eggs it will continue.
I’ve never posted to a site like this, but I’m glad GWOP exists! My reason for this post is to share how this show negatively affects people, like me, who don’t even watch the show.
I have never seen an entire episode of JK8. I’ve probably seen more on The Soup than anywhere. More than a year ago I was flipping the stations, caught sight of this horrible woman demanding of her husband “if he really had to go”, and was frankly disgusted and appalled that anyone would speak to another person that way. Also, I am against all types of child exploitation.
The problem is that my brother-in-law’s wife is a Kate groupie and it makes any kind of family gathering uncomfortable if not miserable.
They have 4 kids and she (I’ll call her KWB, for Kate wannabe) constantly uses Kate’s abusive and histrionic behavior to justify her own. For the last few years, at any get-together KWB creates some kind of ugly drama with her kids or her husband.
At a recent holiday gathering, she shouted at her youngest for the whole room to hear, OH MY GOD! YOU HAVE SOUP ON YOUR DRESS! YOU ARE RUINED! RUINED!
I mean, really, who behaves this way? It’s embarrassing for a grown woman to make herself look so ridiculous. The sick thing is that the kid is so numbed by the constant haranguing that she hardly reacted.
This behavior may be fun for some people to watch on TV, but in real life, it’s far from it.
KWB is one of those people who say that JK8 shows “real life”. I finally had enough and said, “Not anybody’s real life I know. And if that show is how you live, I wouldn’t go around admitting it if I were you. That show should be a cautionary tale about how greed and dysfunction have been allowed to take over.”
KWB was speechless because no one has ever spoken to her this way. We got into a heated argument about the show. One of the things she said was that the children aren’t being exploited because they are so happy. I replied that I wouldn’t know if they are happy because I don’t watch the show, but any time someone uses their children to pay their bills that is the definition of exploitation. You can debate all you want about if the exploitation is harming the kids, but you cannot deny exploitation is taking place.
She then called me judgmental and said until I walked a mile etc, etc. I replied that I’ve never walked a mile in a Panda’s shoes but if I saw one being abused I’d try to stop it. I went on to say that she should stop using Kate as a role model and she should also stop treating her kids and her husband as if they all were just an extension of herself. I have never spoken to anyone this way, but the years of her making everyone uncomfortable if the attention is not solely on her and her poor children frayed my last nerve.
She was so enraged that she made her husband stop his pool game, gathered her kids and left. She sent a message through our mother-in-law that unless I apologize to her in front of the family, she’s never going to speak to me again. I say when pigs fly.
But it has made it bad for the whole family because KWB keeps whining and playing the victim to anyone in the family who will listen.
So sorry for the length of this post, but until I found GWOP, I thought I was the only one who thinks the show is simply wrong.
I finally decided to send TLC and some of the sponsors’ emails about how I will no longer support them with my purchasing dollars.
Cheers

annie said...

AnnaD said...
Jon will work with Kate to end the show when it is right with God's plan. We wouldn't do our show if it weren't for God and his holy plan for us and his everlasting glory.

KATE, You need to stay off the computer when you are on your meds!

Exactly how is your show glorifying god?

uneducated but smart said...

Karen said...
uneducated but smart said:

A lot of TLC specials can be disturbing to some of us, however, they are just showing us life's reality, not everybody's lives are as perfect as ours.

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Yeah- TLC keeps on showing us these freakshows, do you ever wonder why? I guess as long as they have viewers like yourself who's willing to defend them they'll keep the Barnum Bailey Freakshow's on the programming schedule.

And by the way my life is no where's near as perfect as I'd like it to be.....Just sayin

1/10/2009 9:38 AM
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I am not defending them, I was just making and observation (Just sayin).

BTW-My life is just perfect FOR ME. Nobody is really perfect. Just Sayin

RuthinVA said...

I find it so hard to believe there are people that love Kate so much and idolize her to the point of emulating her actions. How do you just take on a whole new personality and demeanor. I am glad the poster let the woman know how she felt, maybe, just maybe it result in some help for the kids.

CatWoman said...

I just had yet another scary visual as I read further comments speculating on their Marriage. ---Can you imagine ANY woman voluntarily being w/Jon after a hypothetical split or divorce from The Beyotch...???? Oh my. First: and hopefully: HE would have the custody, but that would mean a whole 'nother can of beans altogether, AND dealing with QFI for pickups and drop offs, complaints re. this and that, etc. If "It/SHE Devil" had custody, same scenario BUT you the 2nd wife would be living with Jon in a tent in the Nat'l Forest b/c of the child support...maybe sounds romantic and all EXCEPT when Visitation time rolls around... Third: WOuld a divorced Jon have grown back his Balls? (if not, could make for a boring love life)...the list of speculations goes on...seriously, I wonder if a Kate-less Jon would A) have balls again, and B) be back in touch with his Family of Origin? *including Jodi and Kevin* ??

It's Gonna End Now said...

I think the final episode is coming up actually, and it will most likely be this season's finale, which is probably why they are stretching out the whole 'moving to a new house' thing. There is no possible way they can continue to justify the 'family with multiples who live typical lives times 8" angle after that and they know it. Though I highly doubt it was planned this way. I think Figure 8 and KON read and heard the negative feedback, tried to counter it with the frequent "Everything You Want To Know" episodes, failed to do so, and are preparing to pull the plug now.

pinkdiamond611 said...

I can't see this series ending soon. There are still many fanatics out there making utube videos of the tups and facebook pages of the tups. These are all strangers to the tups. I believe the lingo is they are "creepers". But in Kates mind they are "people who love us". Okay, shure. So as long as the ca$h keeps coming in, for TLC, the production team and the parents, the kids will be subjected to making others rich.

Caryl said...

I can see them getting in a home educator, or being given one by the network. Homeschool them in another part of the KONpound, so Kate doesn't have to deal with them, has her quiet, but can still get easy camera time from them.

KatewillBastreetwalkerlater said...

It will end in a blaze of Glory as Kate decides she's on to other things she's growing in the Kon-pire.

whistlingdixiee said...

Not soon enough

whistlingdixiee said...

Jon and Kate will not last as a couple. No way... no how. They both know it, you can see it in their eyes. The show can't end soon enough to put all of us out of our collective misery.

Mary Ellen said...

It's Gonna End Now said...
I think the final episode is coming up actually, and it will most likely be this season's finale, which is probably why they are stretching out the whole 'moving to a new house' thing. There is no possible way they can continue to justify the 'family with multiples who live typical lives times 8" angle after that and they know it. Though I highly doubt it was planned this way. I think Figure 8 and KON read and heard the negative feedback, tried to counter it with the frequent "Everything You Want To Know" episodes, failed to do so, and are preparing to pull the plug now.
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I'd like to hope what you say is true, but I cannot see Kate giving up any time soon. I think she will hold onto the show as long as possible - no matter what. What would Kate be without the show? She is shallow - nothing but a shell of a human, if that. She has no conscience. If TLC pulls the plug, Kate would have nothing to live for - she certainly does not consider her children worth living for, except as worker bees who can support her. So, if the show goes, I think Kate will go off the deep end in a serious, pathological way.

ImpossibleMe said...

It should end when Jon and Kate take the tups to the DMV on their 16th birthday.

If Kate thinks 6 four-year-olds is scary, just wait till they're sixteen. And DRIVING. In all different directions.

For the final episode, Jon and Kate should drop them all off at the DMV and disappear into the Federal Witness Protection Program.
That's what I would do!

shawna said...

In reply to the Christianity article I posted this on their page...

I am sorry but when a child hits his head on the bulk head of an airplane and Kate says, "God builds in punishments." Hellloooo!! What God would want any child to fall and hit his head on anything to learn a leason. Kate may try to be God like but she really isn't. I am sorry, I really don't like her.

Jeannette said...

It's Gonna End Now said...
I think the final episode is coming up actually, and it will most likely be this season's finale, which is probably why they are stretching out the whole 'moving to a new house' thing. There is no possible way they can continue to justify the 'family with multiples who live typical lives times 8" angle after that and they know it. Though I highly doubt it was planned this way. I think Figure 8 and KON read and heard the negative feedback, tried to counter it with the frequent "Everything You Want To Know" episodes, failed to do so, and are preparing to pull the plug now.
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Don't you think TLC still has big plans for KON? What about the trip to Europe Kate mentioned to "trace Jon's steps when he was younger?" That will be the farce to end all farces. But - the sheeple will LOVE it! Think of it - a visit to Euro Disney - Blech!

kate is a cocky bitch said...

As The Queen says: our show is our life and our life is our show.
Even if TLC pulls the plug I am convinced that these vultures will constantly keep find new and money-motivated ways to pimp their kids.

RuthinVA said...

Mary Ellen said...
I'd like to hope what you say is true, but I cannot see Kate giving up any time soon. I think she will hold onto the show as long as possible - no matter what. What would Kate be without the show? She is shallow - nothing but a shell of a human, if that. She has no conscience. If TLC pulls the plug, Kate would have nothing to live for - she certainly does not consider her children worth living for, except as worker bees who can support her. So, if the show goes, I think Kate will go off the deep end in a serious, pathological way.

1/10/2009 9:21 PM

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I have a hard time explaining how Kate sees herself. I think she believes she is above most people and equates herself to a real celebrity. I think she thinks she is very intelligent, The way she looks at the camera and emphasizes a point, like without her lame explaination the audiance wouldn't understand it. The way she corrects grammar and adds a ly to a averb and then the next clip will be Kate saying "she did wonderful" and I am sure TLC does that for shock value, it happens too often to be otherwise. The way she always has to be right even when it is so obvious she is wrong. That superior look with that little nod.
A little bit of knowledge is a terrible thing for some people. She just has that personality everyone loves to hate.
I think kate will do anything to keep this show rolling. We all know she is not above acting or being crazy and strange. I think the sheeple like the way she acts and her actions validate actions of their own. Kate will use any avenue to continue being on TV. I think Kate would like to be on network TV because I am sure she thinks she is ready for bigger and better things. I do not think there are enough gullible people to sustain a show on network TV.
You know how there is that one person in your family or at work that thinks he/she knows everyhting but know very little, they just come off as a jerk/idiot in everyone's mind, that's Kate. The one you shake your head in disbelief, that's Kate. I think sooner or later that is how her children will also see her, I think Jon has seen her that way for a time. Mady is so wrapped up in the situation and only a child, she sees her that way now but her only retaliation is to act out.
If the ratings drop TLC will drop them, but Kate will go down fighting. Which will be explained by, "God told me to fight."

cheryl said...

IMHO, the show will end when TLC pulls the plug. Otherwise k is bribing the kids - lavish trips,
clothes etc by having the cameras
handy. She has mentioned that before.
When all the kids experience heart
breaking teasing etc from their schoolmates, the g's will have to homeschool out of necessity which will continue to make the isolation more complex.

Lynn said...

Is there an accountant or CPA in the house to estimate their income and tax liabilities?????

organizedblogroll said...

When they start getting teased about the DVD mommie bought and they grew up seeing, showing Hannah all pooped up or the ones showing them smiling next to their poop.

I can't believe they allow this to be sold. Do they think this won't bring teasing??!!

jane said...

I think the show will end in a year and a half...Then they will do specials through-out the year. I see the gravy train slowing down, but I doubt it will ever 100% stop before they are 18.

Show Me the Money said...

*Reeaally* Mimicking Kate

This show won't end unless it quits making money for the network and sponsors. Its all about $$$$

Those poor kids really do need divine intervention at this point.



Now I've gotta go be sick.....

Kathie said...

I think even after the show stops taping J&K will still be making money from repeat airings, which I'm sure TLC will run. After all, J&K is their cash-cow.

Of course, I don't know their contract stipulations, but I would think re-runs would be part of their deal.

J&K's gravy train, I'm sorry to say, is long from over.

Get a clue said...

Very few if any reality shows pay residuals for repeats. Since the Gosselins weren't paid cash for the first two seasons, no residuals for those at all. I doubt there are any for season three. So that leaves only a possiblity for a small amount if it was included in the season 4 contract.

marypoppins said...

I hope when this show ends we will hear that Jon had been quietly woking on getting a first degree on line.

When the kids are all in all day school is a good time to end the show.

RuthinVA said...

I got up from the computor and thought I would flip through the channels before I turned in and lo and behold it dawned on me what Kate could do when this show is over. She could sell hair accessories on Home Shopping Network. You know, those little wiglets and such. She would still be on TV and we all know she has fashion sense when it come to hair.
All HSN would have to do is put in a kitchen with and island and a stool and she would be in her element.

Arizona Girl said...

When the kids get old enough they'll put a stop to Mommie Dearest...um I mean Kate.

At this point I think the two older girls are gonna put the kabosh on the show - wait til they hit jr. high.

Arizona Girl said...

RuthinVA,

thanks for making me laugh so much i snorted.

ThreeFarmers said...

The show should never have started.

Also, I don't understand where the information that they weren't paid for the first two seasons? I don't believe that for a second. Kate isn't someone who would do it for free.

Anna Banana said...

Why on earth would TLC end their highest rated show?

I can't see it any time soon. You know, the $$$ do the talking.

Never mind the kiddos lives could be ruined forever, but the show must go on!

Katlee85 said...

I think it'll end when the kids are finally old enough to say no and refuse to leave their bedrooms until the cameras are gone.

Give it UP said...

AnnaD said...
Jon will work with Kate to end the show when it is right with God's plan. We wouldn't do our show if it weren't for God and his holy plan for us and his everlasting glory.

1/09/2009 8:48 PM

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"WE" And who are "WE"

Jon is that you or is that you Kate???? LOL

RuthinVA said...

Sounds like Kate to me, I don't know if Jon has all that glory stuff in him.

Material Girl NOT said...

God has a plan for each of us. BUT with that being said, I highly doubt His plan has anything to do with material things. He is more interested in our hearts and spirit.

If Kate were a "real" Christian she would know that.

But I am sure if I told her that to her face all she would muster up and say is "REALLY?" :)

nj2az07 said...

I wouldnt put it past Kate to home school, that way the cameras can stay forever.

mollybloom said...

I think Jon and Kate will keep the circus going as long as they can. No one really lives on savings very long, and why would TLC continue to pay expenses when the show is gone? Kate like the perks and Jon doesn't seem to be able to keep a job, so they have to milk the cash cow to the bitter end.

The show will fade and disappear. Popular culture is always in flux. Think about all the TV shows you were sure would go on forever.

Merrilee said...

Even if the show ends, I am afraid Jon and Kate are going to be around for a long time. Jon was on our local channel 2 news in Utah.

ifhttp://www.kutv.com/content/news/topnews/story/Jon-Gosselin-minus-Kate-8-on-Parenting/woXpc_-sX0qR2ekh8Ii4NQ.cspx

MattD1972 said...

This show probably won't end soon enough for the kids' well-being. Somebody needs to tell the Gosselins about the Dionnes to scare sense into them, but they probably think they're doing their best to 'protect' them by their yard signs and a 20-acre spread.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and this show is no different - The weak links are the twins. A meltdown so massive that can't be hidden by editing is definitely on the way (maybe a runaway attempt, too), and the show will end very, very badly.
Maybe not this drastic, but I can't see this ending well for the kids or for their marriage.

ruthy said...

This is part of the interview Jon just gave here in Utah @ kutv.com

Shauna: And some day the show will come to an end. I mean it just seems like that would be the normal the course. So what would be your plans at that point, are you being sort of business wise and saving for college?

Jon: oh yeah I have, we have a corporation and other stuff. So i have some good plans and some r-and-r that i'm doing up here and some secrets that i'm not going to tell people, but yeah, you will see me around, definitely.

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So appartently they have a corporation and other stuff? Oh and some secrets.....oh, how exciting!

thecloserfan said...

I would like to see the show end after the move in to the new house but I don't think that's likely to happen. Unfortunately, with Kate running all over the country promoting her 'book' (and I use that term lightly), she's reminding people that Jon and Kate + 8 is still going strong. Publicity creates interest from the fans which benefits the sponsors which keeps the ratings up and therefore, keeps the show on the air.

Crystal said...

The series probably won’t end with the tups going to school, but there will probably be fewer episodes. Look at the Roloffs. All of their kids have been in school since the beginning of the show and the show is still running but there aren’t as many episodes as Jon & Kate’s show. They will probably get income from royalties, speaking engagements, and possibly by providing interested viewers/fans with frequent updates on their own personal website. If they begin frequently updating their website advertisers with pictures, short videos (unless there is some TLC stipulation), etc. advertisers will pay them to place those annoying pop-up ads on their website.

If the show does continue I would be kind of interested in seeing the tups interact more with other children, especially if they are allowed to play sports. But I doubt either scenario is likely thanks to Kon. I could just see Kate screeching in the stands about the grass stains she is going to have to get out when Collin slides in for a homerun, while Jon looks and the camera and rolls his eyes.

Robin said...

Jon and Kate have put their family out there like this, and the ONLY way that I would ever respect them at all is if they canceled the show because they thought it was harmful to their children.

mollybloom said...

"Jon: oh yeah I have, we have a corporation and other stuff. So i have some good plans and some r-and-r that i'm doing up here and some secrets that i'm not going to tell people, but yeah, you will see me around, definitely."

Well, for the kids' sakes, I hope they have some kind of plan. However, Jon and Kate don't seem like the most grounded people ever to hit the pavement, so I don't have a good feeling about their ability to keep the gravy train rolling until all these children are through school and on their own. Secrets? Lies?

AJ said...

I kind of thought it would end when they entered kindergarten as well. There won't be much to tape. Then maybe we can go back to just having the 1-hour specials since watching them walk around their house is getting boring now that the kids are older. Hopefully she'll actually put them in some extra-curricular activities. Wouldn't be ironic if she didn't because she didn't want people to recognize them and bother them? Ironic because she's the one that puts them on TV once a week...

Sydney said...

Well, TLC has arranged several trips for Amy Roloff by herself, probably because the rest of the family has a life. They did follow Matt to Iraq. I wonder if they would start filming Jon or Kate's little jaunts that they take by themselves. Hmmm. Guess we will have to watch and see.

I need a name said...

I would personally love to see the show end as soon as humanly possible. I can only imagine the emotional harm these children will endure once they see with their eyes how their parents speak of them for the entire world to see.

It breaks my heart.

Mady...bless her little heart...she is acting out in the only way that can be seen and heard and even then, it is ignored by the two people who should notice without the physical signs.

I can only imagine the constant stares, glances and whispers they endure on a day to day basis as their lives are scrutinized and played over and over again in millions of homes every single day.

These children did not ASK to be brought into a three ring circus. They didn't ASK to have their intimate lives passed around for public fodder and I'm quite positive they didn't make a collective decision to support their parents lifestyles.

Free clothes, free toiletries, free food, free housekeeping. FREE FREE FREE FREE.

Lets not forget about the vacations. One right after another, VIP treatment all the way.

I will not deny that I do believe a Disney vacation for the kids was an amazing gift however, when children are handed everything and given special treatment --- they appreciate nothing and expect everything.

Jon and Kate are not doing their children a favor by allowing them to get sucked in to the greedy and selfish lifestyle. They are hindering their future.

I truly believe that the show should be canceled now! That Jon *gasp* go to work!!! That Kate *gasp* go to work and provide for the children that THEY created!

All monies that have been collected thus far should be put in funds for the kids and not to be touched.

Ha! In a perfect world. I don't think we could pry Jon and Kate away from that amount of money for anything in the world.

They have forgotten the eight perfect little reasons they are in the position they are in now and they could care less. It is all about what they want and what they can obtain next.

TiredinPA said...

They have 80 episodes in the vault. I heard the first season was $25K per episode, and the subsequent seasons were $60K per episode. Plus the book sales and the DVD sales....Kate "struggles" to make ends meet for 8 kids with $4 million in the bank. Boo freaky freaky freaky hoo. My personal favorite is when they show the xmas morning episode and each kid gets like 2 gifts, and then in the interview Kate mentions all the gifts that viewers sent. So all those gifts are "off camera?"

mommy21cuteboy said...

You know it will never end! Kate will have a cook book (all organic of course), a book on how to save bundles on groceries by using coupons, craft projects for kids (yea right!), a book about life as a reality star and last but not least a book about going from rags to riches. He,he! Face it, it will never end!!! Ahhhhhh! ;)

MeanGosselins said...

I know it sounds mean, but i think kate would deserve coming upon bad times if the show is axed. Problem is...it has the best ratings on TLC...

Notafanofkates said...

I think in some ways Kate is already coming upon bad times. Just not in the money area but when it comes to how people see her she is definately upon bad times. I mean who would really want to trade places with her?! I would love the money she has but I would never do what she does and treat people the way she treats them to get the money.

Abby said...

They're going to stay on until TLC has no use for them any longer. Now with the new octuplets born I'll bet the network is already at the mother's bedside with contract in hand!