The New House Recap

Jon and Kate move their road show out of sub-division hell in Elizabethtown to the wide open spaces of rural Wernersville. How long will it take Kate and her Q-tip to scrub the filthy new abode? Does she really own everything she can see? How much square footage is necessary for Jon and Kate to confuse disbursement with parenting? Stay tuned......

Submitted by Three Farmers

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fostersmom said...

Jon and Kate move their road show out of sub-division hell in Elizabethtown to the wide open spaces of rural Wernersville. How long will it take Kate and her Q-tip to scrub the filthy new abode? Does she really own everything she can see? How much square footage is necessary for Jon and Kate to confuse disbursement with parenting? Stay tuned……

Jon and Kate make it clear to us just how little perspective they have when Kate tells us that their current residence is getting smaller and smaller when, in fact, the lack of space is due to their heads that are getting bigger and bigger. Regardless, the parentals take the children to see their new home for the first time. The property is a sprawling 20-some-acre estate outside of Wernersville, PA, where the children can scream to their hearts content without the nuisance of neighbors and subdivision traffic to trip them up.

A perfect combination of woods, rolling hills, and grassy goodness, the grounds of the place are quite lovely. My house would be filthy as well because I would want to spend all of my time outside in my organic vegetable garden. I, however, am not Kate who early on establishes germaphobic dominance by displaying a high level of disgust at the condition of the kitchen -- namely, the refrigerator. Kate spends the entire episode throwing a world-class hissy fit about the ice box. A display that was embarrassing even by her dubiously low standards. I am going to address it once and not mention it again because we have all heard enough.

Now, as someone who last year went several days without power due to a severe ice storm, I will state that even an empty fridge will develop mold if left without power for any length of time. To thoroughly clean the appliance, one only has to remove all trays and shelves and unscrew the liners and wipe everything down with a solution of bleach and hot water. SNAP. It takes about an hour and leaves everything smelling daisy fresh. Kate scrubs with a Q-tip and a toothpick, or something, and milks the task for four hours of quality filming. Loser.

Jon takes the kids to explore the grounds and a couple of out buildings. The barn is stinky and has horse poop on the floor -- which apparently inspires a couple of the boys. Then there’s a shed that holds a sizeable riding lawn mower and a dead mouse. Jon leaves the flat mouse on the floor because Alexis “yikes” him and lets his thoughts wander to the balmy days of summer when he can get his alone time by blissfully riding the grounds on that mower pretending he doesn’t hear Kate screaming at him from the kitchen window. Mark my words. Jon is about to become a big fan of lawn care.

A quick tour of the house informs the viewers and the children of who will be sleeping where and which rooms they will never see again under threat of the punishment of severeness, which is probably one of the dumbest bits of nonsensical gibberish ever to come flying out of Kate’s mouth. Hannah is getting her own room because her parents aren’t smart enough to realize (or admit) that her headaches are probably due to all the white-hot studio lighting to which she is exposed (a kid can only handle so much candlepower) and the stress of having much of her life filmed. I don’t care that J&K say that the kids are used to the cameras. As they get older, children develop varying perspectives and reactions. Her headaches, if they are migraines, which I doubt, are not because she’s exhausted from not getting enough sleep. That excuse is simply Kate’s way of projecting her attitudes and beliefs onto her daughter, reinforcing the bond that has been created between them. It’s also a very effective way to get all of their naysayers to wag their fingers in protest to Hannah’s favored status. Let’s not give them the satisfaction.

The kids are then given a brief glimpse into the Holy of Holies, Jon and Kate’s bedroom. The area that will be a private haven for Jon and Kate and all of those post-its and t-shirts upon which are embossed the ideals by which they live. Kate declares that her bedroom is private and that no children are allowed beyond the doorway -- ever. I think I see the frame shake because the cameraman is giggling at the ridiculously obvious hypocrisy surrounding that notion.

Mady and Cara agree on a room color and apparently learn that the little kids aren’t allowed in their room unless invited. Being the maverick that she is, Alexis takes a squatters position in the twins’ room and gets the crap kicked out of her by Mady. Unwilling to drop her Q-tip and parent the situation, Kate screams that Alexis should not have been in twins’ room, oddly justifying the beating Mady gave her.

Someone poops. One of the boys has just buried the needle on the icky meter when he poops somewhere. Which “where“, we don’t know. We just know that Kate walks around the house screaming in an effort to figure out who pooped and where. I don’t care how big that house is. Kate could have checked each bathroom in the time it took her to stand downstairs and scream about it.

We learn that Joel is the pooper and he did it in the girl’s bathroom. Now, while Colin says he pooped on the floor, we don’t know this for sure. There’s a little dark spot on the floor, but that looks like dirt. I think the boys still had the barn poop on their minds and that’s where they got the idea. Regardless, Joel appears unable to wipe himself. When Kate can’t convince 8-year-old Cara to wipe her brother’s butt, she starts screaming out the kitchen window for Jon to come in and do it. Poor Joel. He pooped in the wrong bathroom. He’s not allowed in the girls’ bathroom. I really don’t think he pooped on the floor because if he had, he would have gotten in trouble for doing it. Jon said nothing about poop on the floor, so I support Joel’s innocence.

Several things bothered me about the poop sequence. Joel should not have gotten in trouble for using the wrong potty. It is his first time in a large home with no furniture. How is he supposed to remember which bathrooms he is allowed to use? (I just had a serious pre-civil rights movement flashback. I wonder if Kate will make the boys use only the back door and drink only from certain cups. Seriously, that’s what this scenario makes me think about.) How can these children be attending pre-K without knowing how to wipe themselves? And, shame on you Kate for trying to fob your parenting duties off onto your 8-year-old daughter. Cara will have the last laugh when she hires some stranger to change your Depends one day.

I’ve gotten into the habit of muting the sound when the interview sessions occur. I’ll note that Kate looks to be completely turned away from Jon. As always, she’s leaning away from him over the arm of the sofa and her leg is crossed in the opposite direction. I think she is talking because her lips are moving, but I will agree with those who say that her face looks different. Maybe she’s had some Botox. Maybe the Invisilign is kicking in. I don’t know. I just wish they would interview the children because they are much more interesting than their parents. Combined, Jon and Kare are about as interesting as a weed.

After a day of running around screaming in their new digs, the children get a rare treat…a pizza party. The pizza probably isn’t organic, which is old news. In nearly every episode, one can point out a plethora of un-organic nourishment.

The kids start throwing socks and various items over the railing near the top of the stairs despite the fact that they’ve been told to stop. It’s time to go home. Jon carries the girls out to the van because it seems they are lacking shoes and socks. It’s not exactly summer in this episode. I would have made them put their shoes and socks on.

This episode is just another example of viewers witnessing too much of the good life on the TV and not enough of it on the table. Yeah, there were the usual stupid comments by J&K about how they work for the money to buy the house. Blah, blah, blah. It’s too bad that they don’t even credit the children for the work THEY did to earn the money for that house and their jazzy lifestyle.

Many of you mentioned a sense of dread watching this episode. I had that feeling as well. I don’t like that there doesn’t seem to be a fence around that pool. I don’t like that it will be so easy for those kids to slip away without anyone noticing because they’ll naturally assume that they’re in some remote part of the house. I worry that the kids will bully each other with even less (if you can imagine) parental supervision. I worry that J&K are too stupid to make sure they know about any old wells on that property (there probably are) and to take the necessary precautions to make them safe. I worry that Aaden won’t be able to make Leah remember that they’re supposed to be buddies.

They think this house is a blessing. It’s not. It’s unsafe. It’s isolating. It isolates the family from the rest of the planet and the family members from each other. The only good that will come from it is that the camera man and producers will all be in shape from having to run all over creation in an effort to get good footage.

Submitted by Three Farmers

Its A Good Thing said...

Great reacap! I too wonder about the pool. Im hoping that it wasn't shown because they were having a fence installed for safety, but probably not. I wonder if we will ever see the pool? If we do Im sure Kate will point out that its another things for HER to take care of.

pippu said...

The whole scene where Jon and Kate tell the kids that they are not allowed in their room, not ever, they may stand at the doorway PERIOD, was the worst part of this episode. "We need our privacy!" Do they even realize the irony? The parents get the privacy, the kids get cameras in their faces every waking moment of their lives.

When Alexis (or was it Leah?) was telling Kate "thank you" for the house, I was really hoping Kate would say, "No, thank YOU". Didn't happen, of course.

Speechless said...

I stopped watching the show months ago, but always enjoy the humorous recaps. However, this one was lacking the normal humor, which is completely appropriate of course, considering the horrible events in this episode. I am truly left speechless by the recaps and comments about Kate's actions, or lack thereof in this episode. How could TLC have the audacity to air this?? How can anyone in their right mind defend it?? WAKE UP, JON & KATE!!! Almost 900 comments in the other post!! How can so many of us be mistaken by your "good intentions" for your family????

Firefly said...

I bet in a future episode when it's summer that the PR machine will have KON host a party/get-together to make it seem like they are showing thanks to others. That way they can justify pool footage. Just a thought.

Andrea Megan said...

Did anyone see all the juice that she was putting away in the cabinets? I bet it was the free juice that got dontated to them for life.

Ted said...

The whole part of Kate stating that the house is filthy, makes me cringe. What house that has been lived in is not dirty? Next, it is well known that the house was bought from a prominent local doctor. I guess this was Kate's way of saying FU for getting 1.2 mil from us for this house. This girl has been out of control. I can't wait for the day that the show is off the air and those two can't afford the taxes anymore.

BTW, there are keep out/no trespassing signs all around the property. You would have to be more than blind to not see all of them. It screams, this is our house.

NDmom said...

"Someone poops. One of the boys has just buried the needle on the icky meter when he poops somewhere."

3F, that is a fantastic and funny statement. I was waiting for your summary and thoroughly enjoyed it when it finally arrived.

I can't believe the number of comments regarding this episode. Are there any fans left anywhere? There must be one or two but I can't believe they will be able to stomach this garbage much longer either.

Izzie said...

Thanks for the recap! Youtube didn't have the first part of the episode uploaded.

Its A Good Thing said...

Ted said...
BTW, there are keep out/no trespassing signs all around the property. You would have to be more than blind to not see all of them. It screams, this is our house.

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There are? Well why am I surprised? Honestly Jon and Kate should know not to bite the hand that feeds them.

timetogokon said...

3F-

I did not watch this episode - your recap seems to be a pretty darn good summary of the almost 900 posts on the original thread.

Thank you for always taking the time to write your commentary. Usually I laugh out loud, but unfortunately, this recap just made me shake my head with sadness for the kids and anger at KON.

Jolene said...

Free Joel!

Ravello said...

3F, thanks for another insightful recap of a mind boggling episode depicting the meanest woman in America. The Queen seems mad at the world and treats her boys like subhuman members of the family. The comments about the boys were very poignant. Bless these children, they all deserve much better in life. Hopefully, someday they will know an army of caring people spoke on their behalf.

Jason and Heather said...

I do like to watch the show. I love seeing the kids be kids. On this eposide I was getting frustrated at Jon and Kate saying they needed a bigger house. I think there alot of people who want bigger houses and decided againist it so they can be a close family. Their old house yes probably was little to cozy but I saw their backyard they could have added on and still have the kids close enough so they can see or hear them. Who knows how many accidents the kids will have roaming the property. Another thing that really bugged me was Kate decided that the fridge needed to be cleaned and it took four hours. It was the kids first time there and she woouldn't even go out and play and just have fun with them. I was really disappointed in Kate becuase she thinks that a clean fridge is more important than enjoying your kids. I hope that her kids don't feel like they come in second.

Jess said...

I also had a sinking feeling watching about the house. Amityville Horror: The Gosselin Years??

HURRY said...

fostersmom, thank you for the re-cap. As always it was more entertaining than the actual show. IMO the show on Monday night is the one that will have broken the camels back. For fans and non-fans. In this economy to have someone flaunt their new found wealth in our faces, while so many others are losing homes and jobs. Not only that but to act likes she's the queen of the manor?

Nope, shows done. Give it a month and I bet TLC makes an announcement that the show is cancelled.



Yeah, trust me the show is done.

D said...

The stated goal of this web site is great, and definitely a worthy cause. However, I think when you include comments like calling Kate a loser it undermines the purpose of this endeavor and makes it seem less legit.

Also, having worked in a preschool- it's not that uncommon for 3-4 yo's to continue to need assistance in the wiping department. We had parental requests on this front because the cost of replacing stained underwear can be a lot. Again, just a point that nitpicking little things like this detracts from your overall aim.

PrayersAreNeeded said...

Very sad episode. I am going to go home and pray for the children. Nothing more, nothing less.

Vicki said...

NDmom,

Yes, J&K still have "fans". Just today I walked into the lunchroom
at work and 3 men were talking about J&K&8. I could not believe
what I was hearing from them. I
HAD to "educate" them on another
view. We discussed the show and
I urged them to visit this site and educate themselves. What worried me was they said they watch it with their young children. One guy thought Kate was "Hot". All three thought Kate
looked like one of their wives. I hope they will at least lurk into
this site soon. I just think these men never really thought about J&K&8 as anything more than a TV show. I think I got them thinking a bit.

Three Farmers, It was as you described and just plain sad for
the children.

UNREAL said...

The stated goal of this web site is great, and definitely a worthy cause. However, I think when you include comments like calling Kate a loser it undermines the purpose of this endeavor and makes it seem less legit.

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You got a better description to use for Kate?

momto5 said...

I do not watch the show anymore, but gave in to watch this new house episode to see for myself how disgusting it would be, it was!! But what got me the most was the stupid a$$ commercial for J&K, with the It's a beautiful life song or some garbage like that, and showing them all happy and lovey dovey!! What HYPOCRISY!! TLC must not be aware of the current economical crisis and recession were are in. Maybe for J&K it a beautiful whatever, but for the rest of us it's not. And the audacity to complain about a dirty fridge in a 1.3 million dollar home,sheesh!! What a frigin b**ch! Hello, Kate many are losing their homes and fridges, how ungrateful can one be??&*!!& Nothing is ever going to make her happy! And the hell those kids will go through when they no longer bring in all the cash to support "their beautiful life". As far as a normal life, those kids will never have one. Kate will shove them into the public eye to whoever will display them for $$$. Disney channel here she comes!!!!!!!! Great recap!!

DirtyDisher said...

Thanks, Three Farmers. The tone of this post is different than your usual postings. Still a great read though. I think this was the worst episode ever. Those kids are in danger.

HURRY! said...

D-

Its hard to be polite when dealing with injustice. I don't want to be "nice" when speaking of two parents who pimp their children out on national tv - I'm tired of these two dead beat parents.

Kate is a *cough*beeyotch*cough*

pinkdiamond611 said...

Thanks for the recap. I am proud to state that I stuck to my guns and didn't watch. I never watched the episode where poor Joel was left alone with a high fever on the floor. Poor Joel. It breaks my heart. Good for Cara for refusing to wipe him. It is not her job. Also,
If you can afford a 1.3 million dollar mansion, you can afford a cleaning service to have the home spic and span before you move in. Why waste four hours on cleaning a fridge when there are so many books to write and speaking enagements to attend to?

Min said...

just FYI, I had to strain to hear it (because Kate was all "I'm not carrying any kids" blah blah complain) but Jon DID say; their shoes were soaked. Probably from all their exploring.

Jax said...

I don't think this show is anywhere close to being over. There are still a lot of fans out there who back whatever Kate does, and justify it to themselves.

That, and the show is entertaining. It causes arguments (like this website) and you'd have to go far to find someone who doesn't know who Jon and Kate are.

The only way this show will end is if Jon and Kate step up and say, "No more." All the letters and outrage and hate sites are pretty pointless--you're actually feeding the machine.

I'm sure the Duggars and the new toddler beauty queen show were both born out of the insane viewer ratings and lots of internet controversy for J&K plus 8.

Renee said...

Where can you watch the show on youtube?

roryz said...

I was appalled when watching this program. These parents take their young children to an empty house and then, eseentially turn them loose with no toys, no furniture, no structure. Why did Kate have to choose this time--4 hours--to clean the refrigerator?
Apparently, the regrigerator is more important than a little boy who needs assistance.
Shame on this mother for asking (on camera) Cara to wipe her brother's butt.
There has to be a limit.

ThreeFarmers said...

Honestly, I don't think it's funny anymore. They do the same stupid stuff every episode and it feels redundant to make fun of the same things over and over again.

All of their stupid rules combined with a near total lack of real parenting makes the whole show a farce. The only rules that get enforced are the ones that serve Kate, rather than the ones that will benefit the children.

Perhaps I should quit writing the recaps because I find the show so hard to watch and, honestly, it's quite disheartening to see that so many people still want to watch even though they find the Gosselins offensive.

I don't buy the excuse that the show is watched "for the kids". It does those children no good to have the people who are bothered by the exploitation to keep participating in it by watching. This isn't about the ratings. I couldn't care less about ratings. I care about the place in so many hearts that keeps people tuning in even though the show is repulsive. For Christ's sake, these parents use SPITE as a parenting technique!

In other words, I don't think it's a good thing that this stupid show generates 500+ posts.

Travis Noodle said...

Thank you Three Farmers.

One thing about the recap has me intrigued...

"I’ll note that Kate looks to be completely turned away from Jon. As always, she’s leaning away from him over the arm of the sofa and her leg is crossed in the opposite direction..."

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I've noticed that J&K don't seem tuned in to each other. I've observed their body language during several couch interviews and they are turned away from each other or there is distance between them. It seems like they are growing apart.

Additionally, Jon just tunes out when Kate talks/yells/screeches at him. It's like his mind is elsewhere (maybe Utah) and he has just given up.

Jennifer said...

I get a kick out of the part where Kate had to scrub the fridge for 4 hours, but the pictures that we saw of their old house for sale still had sticky notes and garbage in it.

Also, what does KON mean? Kate + Con?

jon and kate are cons said...

The next episode will be a tour of the pool. We might even see Kate spending four hours to clean the pool.

This show needs to be on the Comedy Channel. It's nothing but a BIG joke.

I wonder what the severe punishment would be from Kate.

The last thing that Jon wants is privacy with Kate. He probably doesn't care if the kids come in their bedroom.

Shoeless said...

I do want to clarify that the children weren't wearing shoes at the end of the episode because they were full of water. You could hear him explain this to Kate.

FXfanatic said...

Jon and Kate are not THAT popular. Many people don't have CABLE and those who do, don't watch this show. Nobody in my family or social circle know who these people are, nor do they care.
It may be TLC's highest rated show but it is NOT the highest rated show on cable.

Ladybug said...

Jennifer

KON=Kate + Jon. Also a play on words as to the fact that they are KONartists.

Buzzmaam said...

After Monday night's show, I wrote TLC, My comments were only regarding the show on the new house since it was, in my opinion, the most abusive and neglectful of them all. I can't believe how the crew watched Mady repeatedly kicked her sister and didn't do anything. If one of the kids falls in the pool are they going to keep the cameras rolling??

This is the response I received:

Dear Viewer:

Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your correspondence and for
taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns with us about Jon &
Kate Plus 8.

In an effort to ensure the highest quality programming, comments such as
these are taken very seriously. Each and every comment is forwarded on to
our programming executives for review and consideration. Maintaining the
integrity of all of our networks is our primary goal. It is these types of
comments that contribute to creating change and improving our programming.

Again, thank you for contacting TLC.

Sincerely,

Viewer Relations
TLC

LisaH said...

Firefly said...
I bet in a future episode when it's summer that the PR machine will have KON host a party/get-together to make it seem like they are showing thanks to others. That way they can justify pool footage. Just a thought.

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And just like the Hawaii/Wedding ep, the production company will have to "find" people who will attend this party. Maybe they can advertise in Variety and hire actors to pretend to be friends of the Gosselins.

And TF you're tone in the recap was spot on. I too, like many others, look forward to the humor in your recaps, but this episode there were very little funny aspects to make fun of. It was hollow and void of any character. In some ways it did remind me of the movie "Mommy Dearest" though. Instead of Joan Crawford, we have Queen Kate cleaning, yelling and screaming.

Moons in Leo said...

Wonderful recap, 3F! Thank you.

I would just like to iterate that I e-mailed TLC today and said if they do not cancel the show quickly I will be requesting that DirecTV remove Discovery channels from their line-up.

Arieslikekate said...

oh please, kate!

You complain about mouse turds, yet you put the bottles of the kid's juice right on the shelf before looking to see if any other evidence of mice!

Did you clean the bathrooms first before your precious kiddy butts used them??

Gloria said...

Nice recap, 3F. I couldn't bear to watch the whole thing. It's just so ridiculous and repetitive.

I think there are over 900 comments because people are so outraged by this over the top display of excess and Kate's continually egregious behavior.

timetogokon said...

In other words, I don't think it's a good thing that this stupid show generates 500+ posts.

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I respectfully disagree. I've read most if not all the posts and a good guesstimate is that 99% of the comments found this to be the worst episode to date.

And, there are many new posters to this site which is ,IMO, a good thing because it means more and more people are opening their eyes to these 2 scammers.

I can literally feel your disgust and frustration in your comments, but I don't think it's fair to "scold" those who watch(ed) or comment(ed) on this thread.

So,if you feel that you shouldn't write the recaps, don't. While many of us will miss your talent, your aggravation isn't worth it.

ThreeFarmers said...

timetogokon,

Your points are valid and well taken.

I make the comment about all the posts not to chide people for posting, but to show my disappointment that so many are still watching.

As difficult as it is to hear, we must understand that by watching the exploitation, we (myself included) are participating in it.

USED2BaFAN said...

I'll admit it... I am jealous that these two are now living in this big ole house, and have all this financial security. I just hope they have everything all paid up, because a lady just had healthy octuplets, and the gravy train could soon be over for the gosselins!!!! If people are now able to make money off of how many children their uterus can hold 8 is certainly more impressive than 6. I sure hope Kate has her organic soap box bronzed so it fits in better with the fancy new diggs. And so sorry, but working a regular 9 to 5 is much harder than sitting in a chair talking about how great your family is, and telling people what kind of paper towel to use. So sick of hearing about how "hard they work."

RunJonRun said...

Is Paul Peterson still monitoring this show? Can't something be done? She is beyond horrendously horrendous -- or even just a loser. To me, she should be charged with crimes against humanity. Never in my life have I seen such a narcissistic, entitled, mean-spirited wretch of a so-called human being. She disgusts every fiber of my being. I hope and pray those kids stand a chance in this world.

Nicole said...

I've been reading this blog for several months, and have enjoyed the comments and the feeling that I'm not alone in beginning to see that "KON" has really changed from how the show was at first. I have not shared any of my feelings about the show with my 10 year old who loves to watch with me...last night as we were watching she out of the blue said, "Mommy, I think this is scripted and she (Kate) isn't very nice anymore" OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES!

Kate's No MOM said...

I have pretty much stopped watching but still come by to read recaps. This one in particular makes me sick and sad. Did Kate really yell for Jon to come after Cara wouldn't wipe Joel's bottom?? She is NO MOM. She is a cold, nasty, greedy woman.

I totally agree with one of the posters who said if you can afford that big of a house, you can afford a cleaning service to get it ready. She is SO delusional - she actually thinks she is a "star". Sad and Sick...

HadEnough said...

Did anyone else notice that this hill and even what the "little kids" were wearing look very much like the opening sequence of the show?

nomorekonartists said...

The recap was right on fostersmom. I know it was probably as difficult to watch this show as it was to write the recap. However, I do think that the more people that post on this blog and write TLC about the exploitation of these little ones hopefully something will get done! Having 500+ comments about this show does help because it is an outlet for people to use their first amendment rights and show their disdain for this show. Yeah its real tough watching something that you do no agree with being done on t.v. but then you have places like this website to go and reflect on what bad parenting these two have displayed. It also helps you think about the things that you would not want to do as a parent.

Monica A said...

I love the re-cap. I agree with all of the posts that have been written. I really can't stand to watch this show anymore, I would rather just read the comments. Nothing these two do to their children suprises me anymore. But I will say, that I can't get the thought of one kid pushing another down the stairs. It truly makes me scared for them as these children are often left unattended and display so much agression towards each other.

When my husband and I were buying our 'forever home' the one I fell in love with had a huge staircase exactly like KON's. We were nervous about it so we chose another home with a staircase that had a landing. With a 6 & 4 yo you can never be too careful.

Tangerine Tanya said...

I just got home from being out of town and have not read any of the comments as of yet so forgive me if I repeat any of them. First of all I want to thank fostermom for the most brillant recap thus far..BRAVO BRAVO and BRAVO!!!

1...Did any of you notice a thin blonde woman in the background? Was that Beth or Jen?

2...So glad that the kids got to eat some real food.PIZZA and not grapes,crackers and chesse.

3...As s person who suffers from migrains I doubt that Hannah has migrains. Just a excuse to allow Hannie her own room.

Well folks..I have odddles of reading to catch up on....

Mallory said...

Did it ever occur to Jon that Joel used that bathroom because Aaden was pooping in the other one and both were stuck on toilets for at least 5 to ten minutes waiting to be wiped? How could Kate not tell where the call was coming from? Surely you can tell if it's coming from above you or below you.

What I'm worried about it what if a child pees their bed at night? They expect a 4 year old to get out of bed at night and make their way down that staircase and to their parents door and wake them? Or do they just lay there in their wet sheets out of fear of the severeness punishment?!?!?! No wonder they have chewies!

Jessica said...

It does those children no good to have the people who are bothered by the exploitation to keep participating in it by watching.

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This episode has bothered me for the last two days, as it has obviously done hundreds of others, but I really think this comment hit it on the head for me. TLC doesn't care if we are horrified while watching- they just care that we are watching. Despite all of the hope expressed that this was the worst- it can only get pulled now, etc. I think the exact opposite is true. We keep watching; they will keep exploiting. While e-mailing says something- turning the channel will say a whole lot more.

As a teacher and a mother, my heart breaks for them, and the best thing I can do for them is stop watching... and eventually buying Maddy's book. It's going to be fabulous!

Get a clue said...

For all the lovely thoughts about not watching, the only people who will impact TLC by not watching are those who are tracked in some manner by Nielsen. The rest it makes no difference one way or the other as no one outside your house will know.

ThreeFarmers said...

For all the lovely thoughts about not watching, the only people who will impact TLC by not watching are those who are tracked in some manner by Nielsen. The rest it makes no difference one way or the other as no one outside your house will know.

That is very true and has been stated on here many times, but it doesn't change the fact that we are participating in the exploitation by watching it.

I used to feel the same way... that I could watch because I wasn't a Nielson Family. It isn't good for me to watch... it hurts my soul.

Get a clue said...

Now that sentiment, 3 Farmers, I can completely support. I never rewatch an episode and barely pay attention when they are on. I have skipped a few and may be able to stop entirely soon. Kate does have a very negative effect on people even just being shown on TV.

Jessica said...

... it hurts my soul....

That's how I feel too. I am not dumb- I realize I am not a Nielson family and that my one little TV set won't make a difference. But looking at them actually kind of hurts. And watching makes me feel like I am participating. Anyway, I just meant that I get how you feel. I used to think it helped to watch... now I think the opposite is true.

There should be a 12 step program to quit this show. Step one- admit that you are addicted to this insanity, and KON has become unmanagable.

Step two- call your mother and admit she wasn't all that bad, in comparison...

mamaluv said...

I was so disappointed to see the behavior of J&K. Heeeelllloooo!! Do they really think that viewers will actually watch more of this nonsense.

It really got to me when she was standing by the sink and saying it's all mine....as far as the eye can see. Uh Heeelllloooo not "ours" .....mine. Selfish woman she is. I mean really.

Every morning my son wakes up and comes into my bedroom and climbs into bed and we have cuddle time. I can't imagine telling my children that they are forbidden to step foot into the room. New Years day my son had a fever at 4 am and came into my room shaking. Tears welled up in my eyes when K&J put their foot down to those poor kids.

I saw pictures of the house from the ariel view and the show did a great job of "down scaling" the home. $50 bucks says a future episode (if any) will show J&K telling everyone that they have decided to give a gift to the children and put a pool in for them. I don't recall it being included in the tour. Nor was it mentioned. Guess they don't want the fans to know the truth about how much this home really is.

Did you hear her say she hates the fridge? Yeah a sub-zero designer fridge. I will gladly take it off their hands mold and everything. Hey I only live about 25 minutes away from them......GAG.
Why don't they just splurge and buy a new one. After all K-Mart carries Kenmore brand she can just put that on layaway too.

It angered me to no end. I am so glad Heroes is back on Monday. Sorry J&K but I will no longer be watching. Have fun while it lasts!!

jill said...

TLC is not stupid. They know people love to watch horrible Kate...BUT, this show's days are numbered. TLC will cancel soon because people are mad and not watching on purpose. This show has hit a point of no return with this episode...The party is over!!!!

rjs3000 said...

Just so everyone knows,the only people who can truly do anything about wathing the show are the ones that are hooked up with Nielsen ratings.I know this because I used to be apart of it.They hook up a bunch of stuff to all the t.v's in your house,they know everyones ages that live there and everynight around 3 a.m. they download from the phone what you watched for the day.So unless you are part of nielsen you really don't have to feel guilty for watching all you can do is write to tlc.

marypoppins said...

momto5 said...
As far as a normal life, those kids will never have one. Kate will shove them into the public eye to whoever will display them for $$$. Disney channel here she comes!!!!!!!!
______________________
I dont think this will happen.
1) Disney requires professional child actors. The Gosselin children are not actors ( despite the long hrs in front of the camera)

2) Maddy and Cara are getting bigger and the cuteness factor is gone. Cara looks sad and withdrawn and Maddy's behaviour will not be tolerated by any director or producer. She blew any chances she had.

3) the tups re getting older. the baby cuteness is gone. some are not as cute as others. their speech is not always easy to understand. the novelty of 6 is not that big a deal anymore

so i dont think well see them on a non tlc programme anytime soon.

Tami said...

BTW, there are keep out/no trespassing signs all around the property. You would have to be more than blind to not see all of them. It screams, this is our house.
*******
I just had a creepy thought about this. Did anyone see the movie 'The Others'? At the end the ghosts are saying, "This is our house. This is our house" over and over. I can just see KON long after the cameras stop rolling and the kids are long gone sitting in their unheated house (they won't be able to afford it by then) whispering that over and over. So sad. lol.

Hambone said...

Buzzmaam said...
After Monday night's show, I wrote TLC, My comments were only regarding the show on the new house since it was, in my opinion, the most abusive and neglectful of them all. I can't believe how the crew watched Mady repeatedly kicked her sister and didn't do anything. If one of the kids falls in the pool are they going to keep the cameras rolling??

This is the response I received:

Dear Viewer:

Thank you for contacting TLC.

Each and every comment is forwarded on to
our programming executives for review and consideration.
1/28/2009 4:16 PM

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Unfortunately, this means it is put in file 13. The trash can.

AuntyK.K. said...

You know what made me sad?!

Little Aaden,
when he was walking away from the 'barn', (outback), he was so SAD, as he was saying, "no chickens, no cows, no anything"..

I can just imagine the disappointment for this little fella! Here he LOVES animals, his Dad takes him to a 'barn' and here its' empty..but to top it off, all the stalls have 'remnants' that animals USED to be there.

He has such potential,,and it's not been given a chance.

Then, did I hear right?
Cara didn't want to move and Kate bribed her with painting the room?
She is now more isolated, and even if she had friends close by, now she has to be driven everywhere, and no more neighbours..
Just to top it off for her...no famiy/friends/neighbours/etc.
All she has is school..
as obviously , they dont' go to church very often anymore...as K/J aren't around on w/kends.

marypoppins said...

The next episode will be a tour of the pool. We might even see Kate spending four hours to clean the pool.
______________________________
Its late and im really sleepy but I have to add-
do you think she'll use toothpicks and q tips?

On a serious note I hope they drain the pool or put a gate and cover. the kids can be in 8 different places at anyone time.

ThreeFarmers said...

rjs3000,

It has been stated on here many, many times (including a few posts up) how Neilson ratings work. I know that my little TV won't affect the ratings. That doesn't change the fact that we participate in the exploitation by watching it.

Beth_in_Tenn said...

Did anyone notice how they did not show any full shots of the house? I wonder if they edited it that way as to not rub people the wrong way? Obviously we know the house is huge and on 20+ acres. I just thought it was a bit strange that the didn't show a full view of their new home that they worked oh so hard for.

Also, I think that ratings are going to start dropping quickly for this show. When she told the kids that they would never be able to enter their bedroom because they needed their privacy I almost lost it. Get over yourself Kate!

Those poor kids...

NancyH said...

I watched the show purely out of curiousity about the new house. I was shocked and upset with the whole entire show. When those poor kids got scolded for even thinking of seeking comfort from their parents in their room I couldn't believe it. The potty scene was just unbelievable. Does Kate not watch herself on the show and think "oh my word...I really am a bitch"? I have to admit that I don't watch the show to see the kids anymore. I think Mady kicking her sister was the last straw. How could TLC air that and think it's okay or good television. I guess I watch to see just how out of control Kate really is. She's definately the evil star on the show and has completely taken the glory and purpose from her own children. A mother has special feeling towards her sons but Kate acts like she can't stand to be around them. I feel so very sorry for these children and I can't believe that TLC condones this behavior just for sake of making money. Yes, Kate and Jon exploit their kids, but TLC is the backbone of it all. Kate will burn in hell I'm sure. And Kate & Jon plus 8 producers will be right their beside her.

nibbly said...

How the h*ll are they going to maintain 20 acres when they're so exhausted all the time. I don't think they have any idea what they've gotten themselves into. I can't wait until they buy the kids ponies and discover how much work it is to keep horses.

countrygirl said...

Hi this is my first time posting. I have a couple of comments.
1. Some people expressed shock that she asked Cara to assist Joel in the bathroom on camera, it is my guess that it did not cross her mind that it was on camera as I suspect she askes those girls to many things many times a day.
2. There need for space really bugs me call it what it is we wanted more space sure fine I can accept that. We have 10 people living in 1200 square feet ( I don't believe that includes the basement.) 5 are adults 5 are kids. We get by just fine this isn't a permament living arrangement but it has been like this for a year and could be like this for another year.
3. Lastly I saw the commercial for the next episode where Kate says something like welcome to my house everyone in the world...please

Joni said...

I quit watching a while back but I just had to see this episode to see how they handled it. I agree with what everyone has said, so sad to see someone with such horrible parenting skills to have 8 children.
As for Neilson, I've always been a little curious whether cable or satellite networks have any kind of access to what we're watching. I mean that ominous receiver which MUST be hooked up to a phone just makes me wonder. They claim it's for uploading the program guides but a friend doesn't have hers connected and she still gets them.
This is my first time posting but I've been reading for a long time. I too feel something ominous about that house.
As for the new parents of the octuplets, they have asked to remain anonymous and have no pics of the babies shown. Good for them and I hope they keep it this way.

cant-help-myself said...

3F, it's apparent that you aren't into this anymore...sorry to see you go. I however will still watch the show...if for no other reason than I feel like a better wife and mother on my worst day than the shrew queen. She honestly illustrates WHY I should behave more respectfully to my husband. Thank you, Kate! (Although I should probably get lessons by paying attn. to Michelle Duggar instead of HOW to do that!!)

I was so sad and upset when these two seemingly real, down-to-earth people were just making it in the beginning. They have turned into entitled celebutants/nouveau riche and the show is now a joke, but I can't help watching the train wreck, God help me. (and them!!)

queenie/needs/a/slap said...

yeah, I caught the "I hate you!" line Kate gave the fridge. what a capital B!!!!


you just KNOW she's not satisfied with this enormous estate simply b/c it's not the best of the best...she's still climbing the social ladder. using her kids, deluding herself that she's working so hard, and laughing all the way to the bank.

you can't buy class.

Buzzmaam said...

There is nothing I can add that hasn't been said over 900 times on the other thread, other than to say thank you to ThreeFarmers for taking the time to write the updates. You do an awesome job.

shmedelle said...

The next show:

Kate standing at the door. Arm waves, "welcome to are home".


Wait....is this MTV Cribs??


will she show us what's in her fridge?

Is she a famous rapper?

Or a pimp?

ess said...

queenie/needs/a/slap said:

"you can't buy class."



How true. You hit the nail on the head!

giveheraclue said...

did Kate really think she'd get sympathy for saying I HATE YOU to the expensive refrigerator. Poor thing! not.

luv2laugh said...

Hey, I request a do-over on the recap. No offense, but I prefer the funny ones. J/K give so much material to the comedians.

Come on guys! Many of us have been waiting to laugh out loud at the sarcasm and witty insights.

Mikemom said...

3F I feel the same as you, sadness. I do feel that the kids are "on to her" I thought when she was issueing her ultimatum in the master bedroom, the kids pretty much tuned her out. I think as time goes on and she is gone more and more, the kids will be fine, moving on without her. She and Hanna can share the bedroom together or the apartment above the garage. And if the boys get thisty outside there is always the hose, I have 6 brothers and that was generally their source of water during the summer, they spent most of their times outdoors, playing ball, at the park.

shmedelle said...

This fiasco of a family/show IS not funny, despite my previous post likening the Kon game to a pimp.

However, IMO, it will take legislature to stop the abuse of these kids.

What would your reaction be if for example, you were at a public pool and a stranger asked if they could take some pics of your kid, in their bathing suit, say for 20 bucks? Would you be o.k. with that?
Knowing that they will upload it onto who-knows-where?

I think most parents would be very alarmed and call the authorities.

I'm at a loss, i feel sick for those kids.

Maria said...

I didn't see this episode. I did catch an episode the other night while channel scanning, and it was the Thomas episode. And then I caught the yard sale episode (for the first time) and I was appalled at how hateful Kate was acting. Now after reading this recap, it just seems like she is getting worse. I really do feel for those kids.

ThreeFarmers said...

The stated goal of this web site is great, and definitely a worthy cause. However, I think when you include comments like calling Kate a loser it undermines the purpose of this endeavor and makes it seem less legit.

I originally called her a "dumbass", but I figured that it would get edited so I changed it before submitting the recap.

Wendy Bird said...

Thanks for your recap, 3F. I almost didn't read it because I expected your wit (which is always brilliantly brilliant) and I saw nothing funny about this episode. You have a wonderful way with words, so I enjoyed reading it, but I understand your about your re-thinking the writing of future recaps. Perhaps it is time to just post about the episodes as they are aired.

Sad...just so very sad.

BadPenny said...

I don't watch this show, actually, I'm avoiding TLC pretty much all together with all the child exploitation on it. And hearing about the baby beauty pagent series it is getting worse it seems.

Reading this disgusts me:
“Jon & Kate Plus Ei8ht” got some news of their own. On Monday, TLC’s show ranked No. 1 for it’s time slot on cable, pulling in over 1.6 million women between the ages of 18-49. The episode beat out the season premiere of TNT’s “The Closer,” by 400,000.
I agree if you are watching this show and have any means for your viewing to be documented then unplug the collection device if you can't stop watching to see if Jon ever grows a pair. The was my only reason when I did catch the show was to see if Jon ever again told her to take the stick out.
Stop going to her signings, church speaking gigs, women shows and so forth as every time a person shows up in public to see or hear her they are helping keep her on the crazy celeb pedestal for the stupid magical uterus that wouldn't reduce and no one had to take one for the team. I hate the thought but I don't think I'll be surprised if TLC soon has those octuplets on their crappy cable station and more nuts start sending that family money and gifts for abusing fertility drugs. Kate and Jon have made me leery of anyone that goes through these HOM births and what their real agenda is. It doesn't seem to be for the love of the children but the fame they get for pulling off the stunt.

Jenna said...

Queen Kate, why do you not recognize how lucky you are in life?

You are passably attractive.
You are healthy.
You don't have to work - you got the chance to be with your kids constantly as they grew up.
You have a healthy husband who doesn't yell at you or hit you or get drunk all day.
You are obscenely rich.
And you have EIGHT beautiful, healthy, vibrant children!

How many people currently live in poverty? How many are starving, right this moment? How many are crippled, or stricken with a disease like cancer, AIDS, or MS?

When you look at your situation and then think about the suffering in the world - how can you keep bitching, whining, yelling, and complaining?

I grin every day because I know I'm amazingly lucky. I'm not rich like you, Kate - quite the opposite in fact - but I have a loving family, food to eat, and a roof over my head.

rjs3000 said...

I really dont know exactly how it works all I know is they were at my house for a whole day hooking it up.They had to instll extra phone lines to hook up to the receiver and tv then it would dl from the phone at 3a.m.This was a few years back so they may have a much simpler way of doing it now.

3F I by no means was implying to keep watching the circus,I was just trying to point out that if you want something done about the show you have to write TLC.If you not part of the ratings system it doesn't matter what channel your t.v. is on.

jen626 said...

I am sure this was mentioned somehwere in the 600 pcomments, but I haven't read them all yet. I quit watching the show right after the Disney trip, but did watch the dentist visit since I was going to try my hand at a recap, and then I watched this last night to see how it was handled.

One of the saddest things for me was Kate saying over and over that she was thrilled that the kids would have space to be away from each other to cut down onthe fighting. Yes, Kate. Giving them space is the solution. Not parenting. Not discipline. Not setting a good example. Not having a mom and dad around. Catch a bleeping clue.

2exhausted2name said...

Thank you for the recap 3F!

I was just thinking that someone should take video of Kate's bedroom rant and put in clips of all the times the privacy of the Gosselin kids was violated as her voice screechs about the loss of her privacy. It'd be a perfect example of Kate's hypocrisy. And it may just open a few more eyes.

ImpossibleMe said...

You can just see a train wreck coming. Jon needs to grow a pair and she needs medication. She's not a person who can handle the stress of eight kids, wealthy or not. In all fairness, I'd be a basket case too.

I also think they both look worse for editing, TLC knows now that we love to hate them. If someone filmed me for three or four days a week and wanted to make me look bad in a condensed half hour, it would be pretty easy to do.

I don't think they're bad people in the sense of being malicious, I just think they're in over their heads. I'm just as bad as they are, if not worse, for sticking around to watch the ship sink.
I just hope the kids make it to shore.

PickleShmickle said...

This show (trainwreck) is not going to end anytime soon. I was on a LiveJournal parenting site and someone brought up poor poor Kate Gosselin. I tried to explain everything that I thought was wrong/IS wrong, and was ganged up on by about fifty other mothers saying how I am so jealous of them. I brought up all aspects of child explotation that is going wrong here and the mothers called me obsessive and "creepy" (that was when I said it was wrong to film the kids in no clothes/underwear, one woman said "Why is going around in their underwear WRONG? They are kids!" exactly.)

It's ridiculous, I never lost my cool, never called Kate or Jon any names (boy that was hard!) just said facts about what is wrong with this family, and why it's so sad. I got flamed and put into a snark community for it, it had about 200+ posts, mostly people that love the Gosselins.

That was the same day this particular episode came out and I watched it, completely horrified, and asked some of the women, "Did you watch the same episode as me?" and they still saw NOTHING wrong with it!!! It made me sad, I can't imagine watching that and feeling like "Oh this family is so cool, I LUV THEM!!" and "Oh poor poor woman" about it. I don't understand what's going on in these fans heads!

I said multiple times for people to go to this blog, and it's so well known they just called us all "crazies". It kind of set me back a little, made me sad for society as a whole.

margojata said...

The people KON bought the house from, the doctor and his wife, should be calling Kate and ripping her a new one. They knocked $200K off the price, left her a huge TV, and she rips on them on national TV. I'm sure they didn't appreciate hearing over and over again their house was a filth pit. What a low class shrew.

Tina said...

Question:

Exactly how big is the new house? The page on GWoP with the house info says it is 6200 square feet. Does that include the basement?

(I thought most "true square footages" for sales purposes never include the basement when talking about the sq. footage. But, I believe the E-Town house of the Gs is including the basement on their flyer, so it is confusing.)

But, some poster also mentioned a 800 sq. ft. apartment on the third floor or above the garage, I can't remember which. From what we could see of the basement, I'm sure it is at least 1000 square feet.

So, how big is the house and does that include the basement or additional apartment?

It seemed much bigger than 6200 sq. ft. to me, but that could be the camera angle and because the room sizes downstairs are large, making the house appear bigger than it is. The outside of the house looks like it could be 6200 square feet.

jack'smom said...

PinkDiamond611-

Good for you for not watching. That is the only thing that will stop this show. As long as the show is on, Kate will never question her own behavior.

Kudos to you!

Dunwoody Mom said...

“Jon & Kate Plus Ei8ht” got some news of their own. On Monday, TLC’s show ranked No. 1 for it’s time slot on cable, pulling in over 1.6 million women between the ages of 18-49. The episode beat out the season premiere of TNT’s “The Closer,” by 400,000.

LOL - that's funny - way to play with numbers TLC. Here are the "real" facts.

Original episode of TNT hit “The Closer” garnered more than 6.4 million total viewers and 1.9 million adults 18-49.

Heidi said...

3F, I am with you on this one. I am not going to be watching this show anymore. Not even the repeats. I am done. If I ever watch the show again, it will be the very last episode of the series. Thanks for the great re-cap!
Kon, you have lost another viewer here!

Liz said...

"I worry that Aaden won’t be able to make Leah remember that they’re supposed to be buddies. "

Oh my gosh, I just spit my coffee out over that one. Hilarious! Thanks for another excellent recap!

LB said...

I still can’t get over the poop episode…that really got me wondering. The children are almost 5, aren’t they? They will be 5 in four months. So why are they still unable to wipe themselves at this age and have to poop nearby? I don’t get that. Unless it was not all of them that her ‘rule’ applied to? I can’t just image them catering to wiping poop 24/7? That seems extreme. My sister has two young children and they just turned 4 and 6. They are capable of going to the bathroom by themselves with the exception of the younger child unrolling too much toilet paper sometimes. He knows to ask for help when he needs it and he is not embarrassed about it because my sister doesn’t freak out when that happens. He’s just 4, after all. I’m a parent as well. The teaching and learning process still go on 16 years later and I know he still needs my guidance and support. It’s my job to ensure he has some independence but I don’t baby him either.

Vicki said...

When Kate said ,apparently to the camera guy, "No, I don't know where
anyone is and that's kinda nice"
really was when I became more
concerned for the children. That
house is just too big for them
plus all the acreage and outbuildings and pool. Afraid
for the kids.

Crystal said...

shmedelle said...
The next show:

Kate standing at the door. Arm waves, "welcome to are home".


Wait....is this MTV Cribs??


will she show us what's in her fridge?

Is she a famous rapper?

Or a pimp?

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...will she take them to her bedroom and say to the camera, "this is where the magic DOESN'T happen"!

Hilarious ;)

Ridiculous! said...

Many of you will probably disagree with me on this one but I am so sick of these families birthing "multiples" and expecting society to pay for them. I know it is disheartening for people who can't have children and my heart goes out to them. If the decision is made by a husband and wife to use fertility treatments then the husband and wife must be willing to do what they can to support the children if they were to have multiples. Not expect society to do it for them. As a taxpayer, it is not my responsibility to pay for someone elses child....especially if that someone else is living in a 1.2 million dollar mansion. I know people need help here and there but common sense tells you that if you opt for fertility treatments you are risking the chance of having multiples. I have no problem with it if the parents are willing to scrimp and save to pay for their children...but to expect everyone else to fund the children is ridiculous.

My husband and I were talking the other night and we were saying how nice it must be for Jon and Kate to live the high life for just being parents. I mean, in reality what did they do that is so special? They took fertility treatments and had 6 (beautiful) children while expecting the state (taxpayers) to pay for a full-time in home nurse. I mean, couldn't a lot of people do the same thing?

Maybe I'm still hostile about paying $20.00 for a 5 x 7 picture of them all while they were secretly planning to move to a 1.2 million dollar mansion....

AnneMarie said...

Pre-coffee ramblings again, so bear with me:

The sq footage on the house only includes living space, no hallways, no bathrooms, no laundry or pantry space. It will not include the suite over the garage, as that is a sep. 800 sq ft, it will not include the basement, unless it is fully finished.

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My two cents about the sheer size of the house, the steps and the overhead drop. It isn't the HOUSE that is dangerous. Period. Stop saying the house is creepy, dangerous, eerie, ominous etc.
It's the poorly trained children that are the issue, and that's not even their fault. It comes down to horrendously horrific parenting and Disgustingly disgusting supervsision or lack-there-of.

We have a home very similar, albeit not as cavernous, as theirs, complete with overhead drop, children's rooms on different floors and ends of the house than the master, and staircases. Our son grew up being taught how to act in a house, ours or anyone's. He doesn't run up the stairs, race thruogh the house, drop ANYTHING from the landings of lofts. The pool is the same deal, simple respect, nothing more. Although, I haven't seen any form of that being taught or followed through with yet, so why start. OH that's right, because now they live somewhere where it REALLY matters.

10 extra minutes of silence from one of the kids, could mean they've wandered into the pool, wandered into those woods, fallen from the loft in the barn, or out near the road, which is on youtube btw,the home being filmed from a passing car.

He is welcome in our room at anytime. If the door is shut, knock first and wait for a reply. Privacy shot out the window when everyone the hospital janitor watched me give birth to him.

As for choosing a fridge over assisting your child in a bathroom. WOW. All the children I know could wipe themselves by 3/4 years old, maybe not perfectly, but enough to say they went by themselves. You just have to KEEP teaching them to clean themselves. Potty training is not a one day event. Stains come out. Get over it.

As for asking another child to do it. No. It's not their place, unless you're lying in a helpless heap in the living room, or daddy's not.... OH wait.....hmmmm.

Oh and the NO Tresspassing signs. If you live on any kind of acarage, in the country, it is BEST, nay law, if you DO NOT WANT wayward hunters or hikers, wandering photo gurus on your land, it is YOUR (as the homeowner) responsibility to post NoTresspassing signs every 500 feet, visibly, on the perimeter. I'm not taking the KONs side, just saying.

Vicki said...

One more thing then I'm done with this epi. 4 large Pizza's...Craft Services must not know where to finds the kids either.

jenthabadfish said...

What bothers me the most about this show is the wasted potential it had to help this family. It seems Jon and Kate would have been mortified seeing their behavior on TV for so many to see and vow to change their ways. That happened to me one Easter when the home video camera was rolling. My husband busted a confetti egg over my head and I totally flipped out on him. Later when I saw the video I thought "geeze, I really need to lighten up." Since then I have been much more mindful of my reactions.
Jon and Kate are not mortified and even show reruns of their show to their children. They don't seem to care about how the negative things they say about the children on camera will affect them. J&K missed so many opportunities to make this a more positive experience. I'm sure TLC would have paid for family therapy. The network also probably would have respected a request for less invasive filming schedule. They really could have used this experience to have more quality time with the children. Instead they chose to milk it for everything it was worth. How sad what this has turned into - a freak show.

AnneMarie said...

ImpossibleME said....
also think they both look worse for editing, TLC knows now that we love to hate them. If someone filmed me for three or four days a week and wanted to make me look bad in a condensed half hour, it would be pretty easy to do.


Really? I don't even think on my WORST days, and we're military, so our worst is BAD, the camera would ever catch me being a shrew to my husband and child, demeaning my husband in anyway, choosing cleaning over care and love ( and I DO have ADD & OCD), belittling a child, allow them to beat on each other, allow them to disrespect me or others, see me deirespect others, see me with my hand out when I am fully capable of caring for those around me. At best you'd get a sigh, an eye roll, and get to watch me scrub a toilet.

You see the editing room is unable to edit down to 30 minutes what they DON"T see or isn't there to catch. I fully believe that while there might be great moments in the Kon household, I think what we see, and worse is what prevails.


If we are to believe KON, and man my fingers hardly even wanted to type that, then they have a fluffy huggy household, with the normal glitch thrown in to make them a normal household, and that it's all just skewed in editing. Then Kate my dear, you need a better PR rep and more control in your contract over that editing room.

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I need coffee.

FireWife said...

Ridiculous! said...
Many of you will probably disagree with me on this one but I am so sick of these families birthing "multiples" and expecting society to pay for them. I know it is disheartening for people who can't have children and my heart goes out to them. If the decision is made by a husband and wife to use fertility treatments then the husband and wife must be willing to do what they can to support the children if they were to have multiples. Not expect society to do it for them. As a taxpayer, it is not my responsibility to pay for someone elses child....especially if that someone else is living in a 1.2 million dollar mansion. I know people need help here and there but common sense tells you that if you opt for fertility treatments you are risking the chance of having multiples. I have no problem with it if the parents are willing to scrimp and save to pay for their children...but to expect everyone else to fund the children is ridiculous.

My husband and I were talking the other night and we were saying how nice it must be for Jon and Kate to live the high life for just being parents. I mean, in reality what did they do that is so special? They took fertility treatments and had 6 (beautiful) children while expecting the state (taxpayers) to pay for a full-time in home nurse. I mean, couldn't a lot of people do the same thing?

Maybe I'm still hostile about paying $20.00 for a 5 x 7 picture of them all while they were secretly planning to move to a 1.2 million dollar mansion....

1/29/2009 6:05 AM


I totally agree, but thought I might sound to harsh. I am all for everyone helping each other, I don't even mind helping with diapers, basic need stuff etc. but Jon and Kate have rode the gravy train to long....In today's economy people are struggling and don't want to watch people who haven't "worked" in years live in a mansion that we all payed for. Did any of you see the local news interview with Kate where she says all the people standing in line for her to sign her new book was "silly" did you really say that...silly people are paying your bills lady!!! TLC do a show about genuine people who really are trying and can't get ahead..that is what we want to watch. Sorry to vent here!! : )

momto5 said...

I really thought about this and came up with these thoughts. J&K are in for the long haul. TLC will allow this show(nonsense) to go for as long as they can milk it. I do not think they or J&K care one bit about all the bad press. It is giving them attention. Us the public can help the kids with emails, letters and stop watching but they will barge thru with this farce of a show anyways. There will be consequenses for J&K way after the show is over. These kids are going to grow up and they will be pissed. Mady is almost there. All the trips, houses, freebies are never going to replace love, security, lost childhood, etc. These kids will mostly remember these trips by watching the episodes about them and they will be embarrased and grow upset with their parents. And the new house is going to just isolate the family more and fragment them. J&K may be in all their glory now, but they are heading for disaster in the future. The kids WILL rebel and in a bad way. They will have hefty bills once the gravy train stops. But J&K will continue to *market* their kids to whoever will buy. Their childhoods will be lost to the almighty dollar and they will spend their teen years in rebellion and recovering from all the embarrasment their parents displayed on national tv. J&K should be ashammed to have scammed the public from their cash and then sneak off and buy a million dollar home. They are low class as low class can get. They may be rich but only in $$$$. SHe complained about a fridge for 4 hours, she is delusional and off her rocker. And bragged about this being all mine!! TLC is a joke, J&K is a joke, and I have stopped watching all of it for awhile now. I will not support any of this garbage. There is a beautiful world/life out there to live and J&K are definitely not the definition of it. TLC and J&K get a clue.

Itdoeshappen said...

AnneMarie said...
Oh and the NO Tresspassing signs. If you live on any kind of acarage, in the country, it is BEST, nay law, if you DO NOT WANT wayward hunters or hikers, wandering photo gurus on your land, it is YOUR (as the homeowner) responsibility to post NoTresspassing signs every 500 feet, visibly, on the perimeter. I'm not taking the KONs side, just saying.

You're absolutely right. My cousin has about 40 acres of fenced-in land and someone went through the gate onto the land and hurt himself. My cousin did wind up - through his insurance company - paying this jerk's bills merely because the land wasn't posted with no trespassing signs.

RuthinVA said...

We know Kate has said she pays no attention to the bad comments that are made about her and Jon (or as Kate would say she and Jon.) We also know Jon has left comments on certain blogs about bad comments, therefore we know they read them. We have heard the interviews of Jon and Kate that make reference to specific bad comments. With all this said, Jon and Kate find it necessary to go on and on about the condition the house was left in, clearly making reference to the last occupants were not clean people. Remember, she said the refrigerator had not been cleaned in months or years. So, Kate's negative comments about others warrant more truth than any other person's comments. I just think it is strange you know, the walking in our shoes BS and then to outright trash others for cable TV ratings. I wonder if Jon and Kate would like to walk in the last owners shoes right now after all the slamming.

REAAAALLLLYYY???? said...

I cannot agree more about these KONs ... I used to be very pro-J&K+8, but questions started to creep in, right about the time Jon-boy quit his FT job and went to "consultant". And it's completely bottomed out since then.

Just wanted to answer the very specific questions about the Nielsen ratings (I work in the ad industry). Nielsen goes to ~5000-6000 homes in the country and installs a set top box meter. The family has to agree to the installation, and then viewers of the different TVs in the home have to punch in and out when they are in the room viewing. There's also an "eye" on the box, in the event someone leaves the room and doesn't punch out, the eye will know if no-one is in the room and therefore, won't count the viewing.

The sample of 5000-6000 households are projected to total US HHs. Viewing is also tabulated by different demographic groups (like 18-49, as mentioned in that comparison to The Closer). While J&K+8 may be TLC's #1 show and is doing well on cable, I'm not sure how it compares to the broadcast network shows. I need to get some data from our network team.

The show caught on due to the writer's strike and the "real life" interest of the family. I think a lot of people are getting wise to them, so soon we'll start to see a decline in the ratings. TLC/Figure 8 will try to do some things to beef up the ratings, but once the ratings start to decline, advertisers will start to walk away. And so will companies who place products with them (Juicy Juice, P&G, etc).

So in addition to writing the companies who have product placement deals with them (including the recent Nintendo Wii, V Tech V Smile, Hasbro, Little Tikes), write to companies that advertise on their program. Like WalMart -- just saw an ad on this horrendously horrendous new house show. Send an email to WalMart. I also used to work at a large corporation ... they don't like to get too many letters abt controversial shows. I've been surprised Kmart and P&G haven't responded better … I think continuing to deluge them with comments may be helpful.

Anyway … just my additional 2 cents. Thanks for a great blog. ((vomit in my mouth)) regarding Kate…

RuthinVA said...

REAAAALLLLYYY????,

Will you please post the data once you get it? Thanks.

MichelleS said...

In response to what Ridiculous said:
I agree too. What got me thinking was what you said about our tax money putting them into this mansion and they dont work.
Because my family lives on 1 income, we have 4 kids,im a stay at home mom,husband works his butt off, and theres so much we cannot afford. It can be little or big things.
Last year we took our tax return and went on vacation so our young son could meet his grandpa and other family for the first time.
This year? Well were hoping to purchase some new furniture we have needed for a long time. No vacation though. So many of us struggle, not even being able to buy enough food until your next paycheck etc. I have to pick and chose what household items i can get this week and what has to wait til next time. Oh but KON knows about struggling. Everything has gotten to their heads, they have no clue nor appreciate what they have.
Its crazy that family like us are helping put them where they are.

Gloria said...

"Does Kate not watch herself on the show and think "oh my word...I really am a bitch"?"

Kate has no self-awareness, only self-entitlement.

"it hurts my soul"

Me, too, 3F and others. Seeing all these kids showing more and more signs of the wear and tear of cameras in their face, favoritism, lazy parenting and the nastiness of their mother is hard to take.

flabergasted said...

I was looking up some KON stuff on youtube and watched Kate on Bonnie Hunt Show. If you get a chance watch the clip when she first comes out. Very royal queen Kate waving to the audience. She threw up her hand and didnt even look AT the audience and walked with this fake smile.

cheryl said...

Just when we thought it couldn't be done, each week the g's outdo themselves for presenting this gastly program.
Instead of a pleasant situation of exploring the new house with the family - she holes up in the kitchen with a toothpick and qtip.
How interesting.
They'll have to be the stars and hire a nanny for each child, then they can compare notes!!!

Mommy in PA said...

"Then there’s a shed that holds a sizeable riding lawn mower....
he can get his alone time by blissfully riding the grounds on that mower pretending he doesn’t hear Kate screaming at him from the kitchen window. Mark my words. Jon is about to become a big fan of lawn care."

Haha love this line! Between spending his time skiing in Utah and riding his mower, he'll get plenty of time away from Kate. Once this show is off the air, I can't see him sticking around with Kate for much longer. He's already trying to get away....

Dunwoody Mom said...

Here are the ratings for the top 20network shows and the top 20 cable shows.

TLC had 2 of the top 20 cable - "Miss America" and "A Very Duggar Wedding".

J&K were not in the top 20 of cable shows last week.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/27/obama-inauguration-wwe-raw-and-burn-notice-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/11610#more-11610

Mommy in PA said...

RuthinVA,

Do you (or anyone else) have a link to the blog you mentioned that Jon responded to the comments about them?

Sherp said...

I love the kids. Who is say that any other family would capture the imagination of the viewing public? The family with two sets of twins and tups did not interest me at all and neither does the Duggars and their life style. Like some one else wrote, I ignore the "couch chats" and using CC makes that easy. Kate is a shrew while Jon does his best for those kids. They are lucky he is around and can provide love and care for them. I am glad the money earned from the show is providing them with a new large house. Why not? No body has headackes any more, they all have migranes. Good luck to the family.

FXfanatic said...

Many of you will probably disagree with me on this one but I am so sick of these families birthing "multiples" and expecting society to pay for them.

Not on this site. I'm sure many of us agree with you 100%, especially ME!!!

A single mother with children (and a job) doesn't get ANY government or societal help but a married couple without jobs and too many kids gets enough help to buy a 1.3 million dollar home? Something is wrong here. What happen to be rewarded for hard work? Selling your kids is not hard work, it's criminal!

bertie22 said...

I had to respond to RRREEEEEEAAAAALLLY's comment about deluging P&G with emails. I have NEVER written a letter to protest anything, but I felt it necessary to write to Tom Aiello at KMart, and was first sent a form letter, about a week after sending my comment. It was, verbatim, the letter that others on this site have gotten. So I simply replied, stating that since they had a form letter ready to fire, that must mean they've gotten a lot of feedback about Mrs. Gosselin. And I asked who was more important to him: consumers who spend money at his stores, or a spokeswoman that they have to PAY to shill their wares? (who has more Target brand household items around the house than KMart brand names) and i also got in a dig about how I had read somewhere that KMart was about to go under and that maybe in times of economic uncertainty they should have worried less about courting controversy and more about the possible consequences of using a spokesperson with so much negative publicity. I got a response back within minutes, he didn't sound too pleased with me.
My point is that it seems everyone involved in business relationships with this family appears to be getting worn down. It seems they are so sick of being on the defensive, they are "flipping out". I find it very telling.

RuthinVA said...

Mommy in PA,

The two I know of, Jon had all of his comments removed. I sure someone on this blog can tell you the names of those two. One was a blog for parents of multiples the other was a I love the Gosselin type blog. Some days I am lucky to remember my own name. LOL But, someone on here will be able to let you know them all.

REAAAALLLLYYY???? said...

Haven't heard back from my network folks, but if you compare the averages that I also found on the tvbythenumbers site, J&K+8 ranges 2.5-3.2 million viewers. Seems substantial. But compared to traditional broadcast networks, their viewership is still tiny: http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/nielsen-weekly-top-broadcast-tv-show-ratings

BUT they are still tops for TLC, so TLC is going to continue to push and promote them. Can anyone post the addresses that they've emailed to sponsors/advertisers? I would like to join in the email writing campaign. I have seen my large corporation pull advertising from many TV shows and magazines when they were considered controversial.

Denise said...

"TLC had 2 of the top 20 cable - "Miss America" and "A Very Duggar Wedding"."

Dunwoody, the way I read it those weren't even in the top 20. They are down in other shows.

timetogokon said...

bertie22-

Good for you.

I have received many "form" responses as well - an indication that these sponsors have received so much negative feedback that a form letter is the only way to handle the email traffic.

That being said, I am truly hoping that somebody, somewhere, says ENOUGH, and pulls the sponsorship plug. Juicy Juice has not been highlighted in several episodes - I am hoping it's for the right reasons.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Denise said:

TLC had 2 of the top 20 cable - "Miss America" and "A Very Duggar Wedding"."

Dunwoody, the way I read it those weren't even in the top 20. They are down in other shows.


Try reading the shows and their ratings.

AuPair said...

Re: The Fridge

Kate should have gotten the maid,
ummmm I mean volunteers to clean the fridge.

NutGoodie said...

What to say....everyone here says it all so very well but the thing that gets me the most is poor Joel getting in trouble for pooping in the wrong bathroom. And let me guess: the biys will be responsible for cleaning their own bathroom yet always do it wrong as we all know it will never meet Kate's standards.

And yes Jon will become a huge fan of riding the mower (20 acres!) so he can tune out Miss Kate.

I want to know how, in this economy, they can justify two unemployed people moving into such an extravagent house.

I just can't believe any organization would have the ability to pay 25G to these two. Churches are feeling the pinch as much, if not more, than anyone else.

Marie said...

Many of you will probably disagree with me on this one but I am so sick of these families birthing "multiples" and expecting society to pay for them. I know it is disheartening for people who can't have children and my heart goes out to them. If the decision is made by a husband and wife to use fertility treatments then the husband and wife must be willing to do what they can to support the children if they were to have multiples. Not expect society to do it for them. As a taxpayer, it is not my responsibility to pay for someone elses child....especially if that someone else is living in a 1.2 million dollar mansion.

++++++

You aren't paying for their children? I don't get this rampage.

You do, however, live in a society where we all pay for children who are abandonned, sick, abused, neglected, and poorly raised to the point where government steps in. That's the way it works here.

Denise said...

"Try reading the shows and their ratings."

The #20 show had 4,451 million viewers. Miss America had 3,536 M and the Duggar wedding had 3,242 M.

Georgia said...

Have enjoyed this site for some time now and knew that after Monday's show there would be a flurry of comments. I watched it with my 13 and 11 year old daughters and they kept turning to me and asking "did she really say that?' I think her rant about the "private bedroom" actually freaked them out. Our favorite line had to be when she told the kids that the house cost a lot and that that's why mommies and daddies have to work!!!

Truly, this show should be a National Lampoon production but the fact that it involves little children makes it more of a tragedy. I too was incredulous that they wouldn't have hired a cleaning service for the fridge. I'm sure that was calculated to make Kate look like a hard working stay at home mom.

I agree with all that Kate is obviously a very insecure social climber who is more worried about the appearance of having great "life experiences" than with actually experiencing them. I also agree that not watching would be the loudest comment of all, but I admit that I love to hate this show--and also can't wait to log on here. Also loved the comment on Kate's atrocious English by RuthinVA.

Dirty Laundry said...

All that acreage increases the odds for grass stains. I'd love to discuss this futher but I have a horrendous migraine. So, it's up to you people. Don't just stand there!!! Say something.

Mommy4 said...

I, like most people, started watching the show a while ago. I liked Kate, then I hated her, then she seemed to get better, so I cut her some slack. But something still didn't sit well w/ me. Just something about Kate, like how she talks condescendingly to some people. I still watched though. I just wanted to see them be HAPPY again, I missed that.

Jon and Kate use to say "We're so blessed" when someone helped them or gave them something, and they seemed VERY genuine. But, season after season it's been going down hill. Their personalities are very distant and scripted now a days. Plus, they always seem to be on, coming back from, getting ready to go on a big trip, going to these theme parks, or even on a photo shoot. Where's all the day to day "normal" activities. Where are all the family helpers and friends? Where the heck did "Beff", their aunt Jodie, uncle, and cousins go? Then I found out that they had a nanny/babysitter and I think a maid paid for by the Dr. Phil show in the first or second season.( everyone remember her doing the interviews?) Now they have product placement determine what the kids where and eat and they have an organic Chef, too?!? Really? Have they gotten THAT disconnected with their own lives and children?

Now this house huh? $1.3 million, 6400sq/ft, and all Kate can think of is grimissing at the yuckkiness of the fridge (in a gormet kitchen mind you) and how the house was grimmy and in a "lived in" condition?! NOT ONCE did I hear EITHER of them say "WOW, We're so blessed" or ANYTHING even vaguely hinting at any form of thankfulness, for that matter. What I did hear was Kate saying" we REALLY needed this..." and Jon agreeing w/ her. No one needs that! It's really nice to have, but no one NEEDS it. She even stated that she wonders if the kids knew how priviledged they are for living there! WHAT!?! Do you knowhow priviledged you and Jon are,too?!?

Everyone must remember, though, that this show IS their job. This is what they get paid for. They get paid for letting us look at them, and the only reason why people wanted to look at them in the beggining was because of those kids. Now people tune in to see how ridiculous Jon and Kate have gotten. You either love the show, or you love to hate the show. It is unfortunate that the kids are involved in the hostilities, though. This side using them as leverage trying to cancel the show for their, the children's, best interest. Sighting child labor laws and various other things to back them up. The other side wanting to keep the show running. They say that this is best because by keeping the show running, revenue's will continue coming into the family wich affords them a better life. I have my own personal opinions about this, but they are not relavant since I am neither their parent nor any other authority to determine such things. I do hope this show will end soon and that the public will forget about the Gosselin's, so that they can go back to focussing on their family ties, all of them! I truely wish the Gosselin's all the best and hope that they will learn from these years and also learn that money ISN'T everything!

Pippa said...

Time to call Nanny Stella! And perhaps Cesar Millan to train Kate. Can you imagine Jon executing the “SHHHP!!!” thing on Kate to keep her in line. While we’re at it maybe a wife swap with, saaaay…(no, the Duggars are too obvious and let’s look outside TLC)…Dog and Beth Chapman! Yeah.

Multiple Ble$$ings, chuh-ching!

Ridiculous! said...

Marie said:

You aren't paying for their children? I don't get this rampage.

You do, however, live in a society where we all pay for children who are abandonned, sick, abused, neglected, and poorly raised to the point where government steps in. That's the way it works here.
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Please don't make it seem like I am a heartless person who doesn't want sick, abused, neglected, or poorly raised children to be cared for. My post clearly states that it is ridiculous that taxpayers have to pay for children when the PARENTS choose to have multiples knowing the cost, time, and energy it takes to raise them. I have zero problem with parents doing this if they know going into it that there is a chance that they will have multiples if they take fertility treatments and that if they were to have multiples, it is going to be very expensive and exhausting. If they are willing to take that on without the expectation that other helpers (financially or otherwise) will bail them out.

I also said I am all about providing help here in there but I don't think it should be expected.

I will have a rampage because I am SO sick of my husband and I working ourselves to death (and barely making ends meet) so that one day we can afford to have children and pay for them without the help of the government (aka taxpayers). All the while people are having multiples, knowing going into that there is a chance that they will have multiples, are getting their children paid for. It is a fact that Kate and Jon wanted the state to pay for them to have a nurse when they birthed the babies. So when the state pays for something...that means it is the taxpayers.

Here we have a couple who are moving into a 1.3 million dollar estate when for years they went around begging for love offerings after telling their sob story and charging 20.00 for a picture because their children "had no money for college". I don't get the expectation that other people have to pay for this.

Agreed said...

I'm sure that was calculated to make Kate look like a hard working stay at home mom.

You betcha it was.

Travis said...

Just because Jon and Kate expected society to foot the bill for their children does not warrant the generalization that all parents of multiples will do so. I am pregnant with twins via IVF (also have a singleton) and will not seek public assistance. Please don't lump me in ANY category with these losers or stereotype anyone using fertility treatments. The majority of people who use them are hard-working, responsible and educated. Thanks.

AnneMarie said...

Dirty Laundry said...
All that acreage increases the odds for grass stains. I'd love to discuss this futher but I have a horrendous migraine. So, it's up to you people. Don't just stand there!!! Say something.

1/29/2009 10:58 AM



SHe's a spokesperson for P&G, they make Tide et al. SURELY that will do the job ?!?! I'd be worried P&G, Kate uses your products and STILL takes Exhaustably exhausting hours to scrub out stains. Guess the products arent' as good as you claim, I mean if your OWN spokesperson has to work SO hard!

Pippa said...

Possible name for their new konpound:

Dysfunction Junction!

bertie22 said...

I refused to watch this episode (I've been "clean" since Utah) but after all the comments, I just had to watch it on youtube. Watching the show gives me horrendously horrendous flashbacks of my childhood and my own nightmare of a mother.
To me, the most odd and just nutty moment was when the Queen was surveying her Konpound and had her little "All Mine" comment. She almost went into this little TV-Drama trance, staring into the distance like they do on serious documentaries. And then she says "We've REALLY needed this......a lot." (or something like that) and almost nods to herself for affirmation.
I'm sorry, but I laughed out loud. It was SO over-the-top melodramatic and just plain STUPID!! I'm not sure if they played sappy, folksy music over it, but i could almost hear it playing in Kate's head. It would have been a fitting moment if i were watching a hurricane Katrina family get a new house, or if they had been living in squalor, but they went from a house bigger than most on a large chunk of property to a showy mansion. If that was supposed to tug on my heartstrings, my bad, but it really just tickled the funny bone.
sorry if no one understands what I'm talking about, I just had to comment...

Sue said...

Lamentation Station

shann said...

insted of shake and bake,these 2 are take and fake!

MoneyTrail said...

You'd better believe that we (the taxpaying public) are all paying for these ridiculous HOM births, whether or not the parents get public assistance. The medical costs of the birth and the NICU stays are astronomical!! Even if the parents have insurance, how do you think the insurance company is recouping that money? That's right...by increasing everybody else's premiums. And the fact that many of these children have developmental disabilities only increases the drain on public school budgets trying to accommodate them. The whole fertility industry needs to be much more highly regulated!!

Tara said...

I don't know if anyone mentioned this or not (I admit I haven't had time to read ALL of the comments), but did anyone notice how they never really showed the outside of the house - only the garage doors, front doors, driveway, etc. And anytime Jon was walking away from the house, the shots were from his waist on down (mainly showed just the kids), which I believe was so that we wouldn't be able to see the house.

But too bad for J&K that the majority of the world already know what their house looks like and where it is.

And that one poster is right (Ted?)- there are private property and no trespassing signs up at the new place.

Dirty Laundry said...

I've taken a good nosepoke around this site and find the grammar to be horrendously horrendous. It disturbs me more than flattened mice and balding men. But it doesn't disturb me as much as 8 kids do. Thank goodness I'm here to correct all of you. The English tutorial will commence as soon as Jon returns from filling my car with gas.

ShortStuff said...

This is my first time posting, but I have been reading this blog for a long time. I'm 15 years old & I am outraged by this show, as many of you are. I used to be obsessed with this show, mainly the kids. In fact, i even used to watch those videos that those people make on YouTube. Now I look back on that and think it's absolutley ridiculous to be doing such things.

3F, I love your recaps, way better than watching this freak show. Everyone in my household can agree.

I have to comment on next week's commerical. What's up with Kate opening the door & letting the world in? What does she think, she's on MTV's Cribs? I think not. Also, one of the little girls are wearing a shirt that says "Cute as a cupcake." How ironic. Just thought I'd point out a few things.

Otherwise, great blog. I will continue to read & post. :)

Midwest Mom said...

A couple of comments.

First off: "Did anyone see all the juice that she was putting away in the cabinets? I bet it was the free juice that got dontated to them for life."

I have always wondered about the juice thing. How much juice do they consume? I don't think I've ever seen a glass of milk poured. Especially when the little ones were smaller. As health conscience as Kate says she is then why sooo much juice and no milk. Plus, it's never organic. Just interesting that someone else noticed it.

Secondly, several have posted about Kate thinking she's a celebrity, etc. I noticed that when she had her Yard Sale a few episodes back at the church. When she called into the radio station to advertise the sale I remember when she said, "This is Kate, by the way." Like, just making sure you know you're talking to the "celebrity". Wouldn't they assume that was who was calling if it was YOUR yard sale. That's when I really knew that she thought she was something special. And her ego had gotten ridiculous.

Anyway, Kate just always seems so put out at every interview (on the couch) and so disinterested. I just get from her "I'm just doing this all for you to be entertained and so that my family can have "special memories".

Like I said in a previous post, the days are probably numbered. No one is interested in their wealth when others are struggling.

Izzie said...

Some day, someone should make a fictional movie based on KON. It would be kind of like a cross between The Truman Show and Sunset Blvd and wow, I bet it would be facinating.

Addison said...

Izzie said...
Some day, someone should make a fictional movie based on KON. It would be kind of like a cross between The Truman Show and Sunset Blvd and wow, I bet it would be facinating.
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Strictly from a story-telling perspective, it IS pretty interesting.

shmedelle said...

bertie22 said...

she says "We've REALLY needed this......a lot." (or something like that) and almost nods to herself for affirmation.
I'm sorry, but I laughed out loud. It was SO over-the-top melodramatic and just plain STUPID!! I'm not sure if they played sappy, folksy music over it, but i could almost hear it playing in Kate's head. It would have been a fitting moment if i were watching a hurricane Katrina family get a new house, or if they had been living in squalor, but they went from a house bigger than most on a large chunk of property to a showy mansion. If that was supposed to tug on my heartstrings, my bad, but it really just tickled the funny bone.
sorry if no one understands what I'm talking about, I just had to comment...

................................
Well said. It seems to me that she must manipulate and control every situation she is in. I suppose we are to feel sorry for her? And believe that she really does deserve that house, and that it was needed? She is not well adjusted.

She puts way to much emphasis on stuff. When I was a kid, my mother would freak out if I touched the curtains to look out the window. I guess she thought, surely my hands were greasy and would they leave a mark on the curtains. That did not cultivate, in me, a sense of respect for hard earned things. All that kind of stuff did was make me think my mom cared more about the stupid curtains than me. LOL. I love my mom, she really isn't that bad, but I certainly don't take any of her crap.

I am sure a person trained in mental health could evaluate Kate's repeated manipulation, lying, taking advantage of people, and reach a conclusion about a personality disorder, or mental defect.

I would say she is a whack-job, big time.

Un-employed Secretary said...

With the economy taking a dive this past year my husband and I have downsized to a smaller home.

I really wonder how long Kate will be in her 'forever' home. Companies are bleeding money and one of the first items on the list that goes is money towards marketing.

So here's hoping that Queen Kate enjoys her days at the new manor . . . because the times they are a changing. ka ching!

LOVE GWOP! said...

Dirty Laundry said

I've taken a good nosepoke around this site and find the grammar to be horrendously horrendous. It disturbs me more than flattened mice and balding men. But it doesn't disturb me as much as 8 kids do. Thank goodness I'm here to correct all of you. The English tutorial will commence as soon as Jon returns from filling my car with gas.
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OMG! So Funny!

timetogokon said...

I am sure a person trained in mental health could evaluate Kate's repeated manipulation, lying, taking advantage of people, and reach a conclusion about a personality disorder, or mental defect.
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I don't think one has to be trained in anything to see that Kate is not mentally stable.

That said, there are parents, grandparents, teachers, social workers, nurses and members of the clergy who are part of the sheeple demographic that see absolutely nothing wrong with Kate or Jon's behavior. Even worse, these folks make pathetic excuses justifying KON's behavior.

It's rather frightening.

BeBe said...

I have been a visitor to this site for awhile now. I wasn't surprised to discover that many other people find the Gosslin situation alarming. After this last episode, I had to say something. This is my first post.

Early on I thought Kate was a very troubled woman who needed help with parenting skills, as well as some lessons in plain etiquette. Now things have gotten much worse. It really has left the funny stage and gone into something much more. When I watched the new house episode, I literally felt ill. You can actually feel the ice coming from that woman's body. How in the world can a woman be that clueless? It it so very sad. Why doesn't someone conduct an investigation? If those children are treated that way on national tv, then God only knows how they are treated behind closed (unfilmed) doors.

So many things bothered me in that episode, of course her complaining about the fridge, big deal, that was a no brainer...no really, but what actually HURT me because it must really HURT the children was her demanding that Jon join in and threaten the kids in case they step foot in their parents room. She looked manic. Jon joined in with the threat as if he was also frightened by her. Jon could have said, Honey, you're scaring the kids. Let's discuss this later. Couldn't he?
(I have heard that when celebrity kids get older and understand that they are the breadwinner, they tell their parents to scram, they actually bought the place. I think I heard that from Danny Bonaduce...yeah...you get it)

Later she gets this possessed look on her face as she looks out the kitchen window surveying her kingdom. She says something about it being all mine. She looked like something was very wrong with her. It was very scary. It gave me a very odd feeling. I just hope someone with some authority checks into this...her..or whatever. I'm not getting the idea Jon has the strength or mindset to ask for intervention no matter how bad she gets.

This post is my scaled down version of initial thoughts. I waited 24 hours before posting so I could calm down. Seriously.

I wish Jon and Kate could undertand that doing the right thing for your children is an honorable thing. It's a good thing. Why fight it? Why dismiss people who encourage fair and decent treatment for your kids.

Even if the cameras leave and never come back, those kids are still in jeopardy. They will still be left with the same parents and the same parenting skills or lack thereof.

I can't recall who said this, I heard it somewhere, "If children are so resilient, why do we have so many screwed up adults?"

Dirty Laundry said...

Well, after much nosepoking around Jon FINALLY filled my car with gas. Of course he hasn't offered to help me correct all this grammar. HELLO?!?!??!!!
I guess I'll have to do it by my horrendously horrendous self (as par usual). Just let me get my mani/pedi first...aka "sports".

Sally said...

Alert...Kate and kids on Access Hollywood tonight...can't wait for her parenting advice to the new parents of 8 babies...yikes!

kj said...

The part of the show that put it into perspective for me was when she was at the sink, looking out the window and said something like "It's all mine. As far as I can see..."
All her's ?
Scary.

ugh said...

when we bought our first house a year and a half ago, it was a cause for much celebration for all six of us (my dh & I and our 4 kids). We all ran through the house, absolutely giddy that we finally had our very own place and the kids were ecstatic about their rooms (each their own-we have an old twin with lots of bedrooms). I even placed a big wooden initial in each of their rooms and a note for the two oldes (who can read). We all went to our rooms and then yelled to each other, them laughing and me crying tears of joy. It was such a precious moment for our whole family-something we had worked so hard to finally achieve. We ate our first meal on the living room floor-pizza-and just soaked it all in.

I certainly had a lot of cleaning and work ahead of me, but, you know what? Our first moments in the house were so special and so precious and the cleaning was still there the next day (and the next, and the next).

No matter how much these two freeloaders are given, it will never be enough. They will never be satisfied, never be happy, never be fulfilled. I pity them because, even though they claim to be Christian, they don't know the first thing about gratitude or joy.

Anonymomma said...

There's an article on abcnews.com right now about the mother of theoctuplets born the other day. Apparently, she is single and already had 6 children. Social servises are stepping in now to see how it was even possible that she was given fertility treatments to begin with. Here's the link...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=6764771&page=1

I predict the downfall of J&K very, very soon....

Erica said...

Interesting article I stumbled across talking about child actors and the difference with the new child participants in reality shows... http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=5040886&page=1

"Those kids are not necessarily playing themselves, being seen in their daily lives and habitat," Nordyke said. "There is a difference, because children in reality shows are letting cameras into their private world. That is definitely more revealing than having a child play a character in a sitcom."

"Potentially, it's worse for them to be on a reality show," said Kaslow. "You don't get as much distance from it. You're not in a character. You are a character."

KON is never specifically mentioned, but reading between the lines, they are all over this article.

Claire said...

Pippa said...
Possible name for their new konpound:

Dysfunction Junction!

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Good one! I like it! LOL

JackfromNY said...

I really hope E's True Hollywood Story is still on the air when the kids become adults and want to start talking about what really went on behind the scenes and how they really felt about being on camera and stuff.

FREE MADY said...

Did anyone notice at the end when Leah was screaming at Joel "Give me back my money! Give me back my money!"......looks like she's inheriting Kate's greed. .....uh oh.

Scooter said...

I have been a nurse over 40 years and in mental health for over 15 years. Kate seems to fit all the patterns and behaviors of both Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Histrionic Personality Disorder. I'm afraid if and when the cameras are turned off, Kate will be the same. God help those children!

SanAntone said...

Good article about the ethics of having high-order multiples:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28902137/

Wendy Bird said...
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Denise said...

Watch Kate's reaction TO Mady ON access Hollywood.

If looks could kill.....

http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

SteelersFan said...

My step brother works for the cleaning company out of Reading that TLC used to clean the new house. He said the instructions from TLC were to clean the entire house and garage to an "executive level" except for the refrigerator, pantry and sink in the kitchen. Now it makes sense after the episode.

Shaun said...

Honestly on a week where 70,000 Americans lose their jobs, TLC showcases a family that does nothing getting their new 1.3 million dollar home and them being unsatisfied with it.
The shoe will drop with in three months. Before the image of the average american family with 8 kids trying to get by was still kind of there. Now in a spralling masion, with a woman getting crazier by the episode, all the kids growing into an age where the cameras might not be so cool anymore, and of course what type of show will it be when for the majority of the day it's just Jon and Kate sitting around cause the kids are in school?
Oh wait the show is already just Jon and Kate sitting around.
TLC or TWC (Train Wreck Channel, alright I'm working on it) will be dropping this show with in 6 months. Congrats to Jon and Kate though, you can now all point to the exact moment that we all though should have come long ago, the show has jumped the shark.

Tangering Tanya said...

FREE MADY...Your comment made me laugh.

SteelersFan....No S***T?...Wow go figure.

shmedelle said...

Denise said...
Watch Kate's reaction TO Mady ON access Hollywood.

If looks could kill.....

http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

1/29/2009 9:48 PM

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I watched that. Those kids are miserable.

Jasp said...

I've never really watched this show. However, with the few times I have watched this show I have concluded one thing: Jon and Kate should have had one child and that child's name is Hanna. My lord, she is 4 years old and she gets a whole room to herself!? Trust me, I don't blame the child I blame her parents. The twins should be allowed their own rooms, they are older and thus the superiority rule should kick in. Those kids are gonna grow up resenting Hannah. The favoritism is so clear is almost disgusting. Don't have multiple kids if you can't put your attention to each one equally.

kimmer said...

"Kate declares that her bedroom is private and that no children are allowed beyond the doorway -- ever. I think I see the frame shake because the cameraman is giggling at the ridiculously obvious hypocrisy surrounding that notion."

wow. i'm a fan of kate and of the show but wow so truw. didn't even realize the hypocrisy until you pointed it out...

can't argue with you on that one ;)

Dee said...

Kate is supposed to be on CBS's morning show this morning to comment on the woman who had 8 babies. The CBS news website sometimes puts video of their interviews up later in the day. Wonder if she is relieved that she is not going to be usurped by a warm cozy family (the woman who had the 8 is causing controversy because she already had 6 children and she is living with her parents.)

Ms.Peach said...

TLC can't hide the house because it's all over the internet. It's isolated. No neighbors for the kids to play with. I live on half the acreage and it's a BIG job to maintain plus there are all sorts of unwelcome critters to contend with (and some are dangerous). I laughed when Kate complained about the mouse droppings----it's the country, Kate, and field mice will get in! You solve it by getting a cat, but I'm afraid for a poor cat living in that household! The wailing about the dirty house was probably a set-up. Where did those Little Tykes tables come from for the pizza party? The bikes? After filming there's no doubt that a cleaning crew showed up with painters (courtesy of TLC).

Lauren said...

The twins should've gotten separate rooms.

Aunty K.K. said...

NOW this I believe, as the rest of the house looked spotless, and WHY else would Kate emphasize the "kitchen" parts only.
This is also SO SAD!
THese kids are having a life full of ">>>>"!
Did you see that 'interview' where Mady isn't afraid to 'confront' Kate? She says, "your not the boss of me!"..and then, when the 'tups' are moving about, and Kate gives her 3rd warning, she then states, "time for a spanking", Or "she deserves a spanking now"...along that line.
THE SADDEST part about that interview, is the boys...they don't move...they sit like "little statues"...LIke they're AFRAID to move..as they know the consequences if they do move...thats'SAD!!!

ANd, they could have such potential!
I do hope someone, somewhere, be it at school, or wherever, is helping these children, and getting some HELP into their lives!!

GOD help them!! The 8 children especially!

SteelersFan said...
My step brother works for the cleaning company out of Reading that TLC used to clean the new house. He said the instructions from TLC were to clean the entire house and garage to an "executive level" except for the refrigerator, pantry and sink in the kitchen. Now it makes sense after the episode.

1/29/2009 10:00 PM

spoiledmom said...

Watch out Kate, just when your kids bought your perfect "house" (a "home" is where love, laughter, and life... live) and you just got settled into your "perfect lifestyle"...here comes "Mom and Dad + 14"!!!! Better get to filming Kate, I think I would actually enjoy watching this "modest family from California" move up to your lifestyle, than continue to watch you take advantage of your children and your continuous habit of making a complete fool of yourself, not to mention Jon. The entire "new house" episode has me all bent out of shape. I was behind in watching due to chemo treatment on Monday. I must say, those "rules" by which you live..ugh. Finally, regarding the fridge, I am surprised at Kate's willingness to keep the appliances. With her self-diagnosed 'germaphobia' I just knew she would have all the latest and greatest stainless steel appliances donated to her by the major brand of her choice. Ahh, but the season is not over yet, we have just caught our first glimpse....

SueM said...

My Thoughts:

Great recap 3f's. I agree with the tone. Too much going on in the world to laugh at this anymore. It's simply not funny. There was a Sheeple Storm on this sight for a while but I see it's slowed down. Even Sheeple can't argue with the fact that in this economy, a family of 8 in which the parents don't work can buy a $1.3mil home without selling their previous home. Moving from a $300k-ish house to a million dollar one is really moving up in the world. We don't see much of that anymore. Except on TLC.

I cannot believe Mady was allowed to assault her sister and NOBODY stepped in to stop it. The cameras rolled though. They got their shot. If that were my kids I'd be horrified that the camera man saw that, filmed it and didn't alert me to help the child being beaten. Guess this makes good TV.

There was an article in the Boston Herald earlier this week about TLC. Mostly it was a review of Toddlers and Tiaras but the writer's opinion is that TLC just enjoys humiliating children and has a knack for finding the parents who are willing to go along with it.

Cleaning the fridge was all about Kate and making money. First, an episode isn't complete unless Kate is flipping out about something. It's her shtick. And it makes money for TLC because viewers watch it. Second, Kate was,I'm sure, using her P&G cleaning supplies so there was a product placement. It's all money in the bank for them.

A lot has been said and thought about Hannie getting her own room. However, I'd like to congratulate the boys for getting their own bathroom! They are the smartest in the bunch..."Let's all be 'icky' and we won't have to share a bathroom with the girls and all their girlie things". Seriously though, I am appalled that Kate explained this to the girls by telling them how icky the boys are in the bathroom. The boys don't stand a chance in this family!

Pippa said...

Denise said...
Watch Kate's reaction TO Mady ON access Hollywood.

If looks could kill.....

http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

1/29/2009 9:48 PM

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Kate’s comment regarding the octups: “It is surviverable.” ??? Oh, Kate. Just, oh!

And, is it just me or do you all get the impression that the kids are quite tired of all of this. I don’t know. Wow!

Mady is crying…no…SCREAMING out for help. Heartbreaking.

If you haven't yet watched this, I would suggest you take a look. It is very, sadly telling.

Its A Good Thing said...

SteelersFan said...
My step brother works for the cleaning company out of Reading that TLC used to clean the new house. He said the instructions from TLC were to clean the entire house and garage to an "executive level" except for the refrigerator, pantry and sink in the kitchen. Now it makes sense after the episode.

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Wow, that completely makes sense. Im just surprised they didn't have them come back to clean the rest after they finished filming.

Its A Good Thing said...

SueM: Sadly the boys are being raised to be just like Jon. They will know their place (according to Kate), they will know that they are the sub-gender. Its sad, the seem like great little guys and in no time they will be submissive and afraid to voice their own opinions just like their father.

SueM said...

I just watched the Access Hollywood Video. Someone really needs to help Mady, Fast!! That poor little dear needs some space from this train wreck.

Tracy said...

I had mentioned in an earlier post on GWOP - I can see this family having MAJOR issues down the road with Mady. She has a mouth and not afraid to use it. Seems like she told Kate to "stop being her boss"...Way to go, Mady!

http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

4thekids said...

Cara will have the last laugh when she hires some stranger to change your Depends one day.

Here here! :-D

This whole episode nearly made me nauseous. Those poor kids...

1st Time Lookie Lu said...

I'm so glad to have found this place as I have been watching the trainwreck that is J&K with my mouth hanging open for months.

Melissa said...

Ratings will not be the reason this show is canceled. I believe bad PR is going to be the end of J&K. That's one reason they've hired a PR firm. They know there are people out there who are effective at pointing out their horrible parenting and exploitation of their kids.

How many times have we seen J&K parade their kids on talk shows like Oprah, Regis & Kelly, not to mention all the national morning shows...only to have the hosts ask the same boring questions: "How do you make it work?" "Do the kids fight?" Blah, blah, blah. I want some REAL questions. How about Dr. Phil asking J&K why they think exposing their kids for everyone to see is NOT hurting them in any way.

It is MY hope and belief that the longer this goes on, and the older the kids get (and the less "cute") people will begin to focus on just how irresponsible and greedy these parents are.

I just hope the media starts to pick up on this. Britney Spears was chided for her lack of mothering skills, but as I see it...Kate isn't much better.

On a side note...I equate Kate's love of organic food to the exploitation of her children. She once said that she feeds them as much organic as possible because even if they don't know how good it is for them now, they'll thank her in the future. Well, she thinks the cameras don't bother them now--but that's because they're kids and don't know any better. Later in life, they'll realize that they were cash cows for their parents. Hopefully then they'll demand those cars that Kate said she wouldn't buy for them!

wramblinwreck said...

3F, while I haven't watched the show for months, I can tell from the recap this episode must have been especially tough to watch. I will miss your recaps, you are a gifted writer, but I understand why you don't want to watch anymore.


Erica, thanks for posting the article about kids on reality shows. I thought this quote was especially important:

"Potentially, it's worse for them to be on a reality show," said Kaslow. "You don't get as much distance from it. You're not in a character. You are a character."

Following kids on a reality show series is a new phenomenon in this culture, so there's no research to indicate the long-term effect of kids being subjected to this kind of intense scrutiny in their own homes and daily lives. There's plenty of reference material from child actors, but those kids at least were able to leave their "characters" at the studio when filming was done, and go home to a private life, unlike the Gosselin kids who have no private life, their home is the "studio," and they can never step away from their on-screen "character" when filming is done. The behavior of the Gosselin kids in these recent interviews shows it's glaringly obvious that it's time the filming stopped so they can experience a normal life away from public scrutiny. Free the Gosselin 8!

2badsosad said...

My step brother works for the cleaning company out of Reading that TLC used to clean the new house. He said the instructions from TLC were to clean the entire house and garage to an "executive level" except for the refrigerator, pantry and sink in the kitchen. Now it makes sense after the episode.


And Kate claims that NOTHING about their reality show is 'staged'.
TLC hires a professional cleaning service to clean the entire house to an 'executive level' excluding the fridge. Way to go TLC, instigate bloggers with some criticism inducing footage of the Gosselin's first family visit to the new home with Kate bitching and moaning about how it took her FOUR, yes FOUR hours to clean the filthy dirty moldy fridge.

thecloserfan said...

Someone commented on Britney Spears and how she was criticized for her parenting skills. At least Britney had her father who was willing to get Britney the help she needed and is now acting as her legal guardian and conservator over her estate until she is mentally ready to take over that responsibility.

Kate has no one she can turn to. She has pushed everyone away because they became 'useless' to her in her quest for stardom.

Jon, the one person that can step in and get Kate the help she needs doesn't have the brains or balls to do it. Unfortunately, the children are the ones that are suffering.

I've emailed TLC and Paul Peterson about the plight of the Gosselin eight. I even sent out an email to the Governor of Pennsylvania yesterday pleading with him to look in to this situation. I don't know what more I can do but I do know that after seeing Mady's behavior on Access Hollywood, I really have a lot of concern for those children.

wramblinwreck said...

"I want some REAL questions. How about Dr. Phil asking J&K why they think exposing their kids for everyone to see is NOT hurting them in any way."

Their PR folks would make sure that they were NOT asked those kinds of questions. J&K don't want to answer them, and their PR will make sure it's part of the deal they make for each appearance that J&K will only answer certain types of questions. They're being promoted in a very specific way, the wholesome couple with the adorable bunch of kids, and their PR is targeting the types of appearances where it's easy to get fluff interviews with no real substance.

justme said...

I know that fridges without power will grow ugly things, but must not as bad as Ks hairdo and attitude. Finally found the new property via aerial mapquest and looked it up on the property appraiser's page. Won't they need some animals to continue to be classified as "farm" use (which is probably lower taxes)? Guess the twins got the maid's room since it has a separate staircase. I wonder if they live closer to their organic cows now.

April said...

OMG-WTF possessed them to have sextuplets after already having twins?!!! I could never deal with that....to me their lives are a living nightmare in Nowheresville, PA.

And someone needs to tell that bitch Kate a sharp tongue is no indication of a keen mind.

Pepsi Grl said...

Now that the Gosselins own a farm they can apply for government farm subsidies. You know get paid for 'not' growing food.

Just a Thought.

Pamela Jaye said...

busy nose poking around, here

I didn't get this the first time - only the second half.

"all mine!" (you'd think she was one of the little kids, not the mom)

poor Kate had to clean the fridge! All by herself! (why didn't she just go out and buy a clean one?)

haven't been here in a while (facebook sucked me in)
see there are lots of new "goodies"

and yeah, there is a facebook group for Jon and Kate non-lovers.
btw, the Discipline ep was almost watchable!

jettatonka said...

good recap!

did anybody find hilarity in the fact that when joel pooped, kate was wondering around aimlessly seriously confused as to where he was..shouting like an idiot "WHERE ARE YOU"....

um, why don't you just do a quick sweep of all the bathrooms kate? call me einstein.

also...who in the world was supervising all these kids while jon was outside and kate was having a cleaning party with the refrigerator? i don't understand how she can just be okay with her small children running around a new house, with stairs and no supervision. i'm not a mother, but i'd be way too nervous to let those kids out of my sight...they could easily tumble down the stairs, or walk out the front door or starting bullying other kids in a room too far away for her to hear. or choke on something; again too far away for her to hear. one of her kids is seriously going to get hurt if she continues to parent that way.

the way she tries to talk to the kids is a joke. get down to THEIR level Kate. bring them close to you and THEN say your rule in a way that they understand. oh and it'd be nice if you would tell them that, OF COURSE, if they're sick or scared mommy and daddy will *always* be there to comfort them..even in the middle of the night...

Elle said...

I'll catch bits of episodes here and there but I saw the whole show about the new house. When I saw Mady abuse one of the little girls by repeatedly kicking her HARD, I was done. No more. I e-mailed TLC and even though they probably won't care, at least I said I'm done with the show and with TLC - they are irresponsible. I also e-mailed J&K.

And BTW, my 3 yr. old wipes herself and I often find all 5 of them napping, on the laptop, or cuddled up talking on my bed.

Was it me or did Kate react funny to hearing that the "octuplet mom" now has 14 kids??

SaveTheSheeples said...

My step brother works for the cleaning company out of Reading that TLC used to clean the new house. He said the instructions from TLC were to clean the entire house and garage to an "executive level" except for the refrigerator, pantry and sink in the kitchen. Now it makes sense after the episode.

Wow....so the fridge/pantry cleaning was staged.

The fridge didn't even look that dirty when she first opened it. I have a hard time believing it took 4 hours to clean an empty refrigerator. Unless she purposely prologned so she can gripe for the cameras.

Tyra said...

On the new house episode, one of the girl tups says to Kate..."you're cleaning, why are you cleaning?" Apparently she is used to seeing the housekeeper clean rather than Kate, and she must have found that rather odd.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Was it me or did Kate react funny to hearing that the "octuplet mom" now has 14 kids??

I guess Kate just realized she does not have the most "magical uterus" in the world now. Bummer for Kate.

stellalunay2k said...

The show is not on the way out, as many of you wish. I began as a fan of the show and actually found this site when I went on the Facebook fan site. Someone mentioned Aunt Jodie's sister's site and conveniently gave the address. (I later noticed that the link disappeared from the FB fan page!)

After reading the posts for months, and continuing to watch the show, a friend e-ed me to let me know Kate was coming to my town in January. I live in Charleston. Sure enough, Kate appeared at SeaCoast Church ($10 a ticket if you wanted to attend) and had two book signings.

Well! I teach at a Christian school and our principal announced to all of our children at Chapel that one of our teachers had gone to the book signing. She told us all about the wonderful, Godly role model that is Kate Gosselin. I made no comment. I like my job and I work with these people. Call me a wuss, I just don't like confrontation!

The point I am making is this...there are a LOT of fans out there. The teacher at my school waited in line for hours to get her book signed. The fans were there in droves. I was impressed that Kate allowed pictures to be taken of her as she signed books. Here is the deal, there are oodles of Gosselin supporters. They aren't visiting this website or any of the other ones like it. They look at the show and really do feel that God is blessing this family. They BELIEVE this.

I watched the CBS interview with K+8, but could not connect to the Access Hollywood one...that link took me to some guy talking about stalking. If anyone could redirect me, I'd love to see it. On the CBS interview, I was surprised to see Kate reach out and grab one of the little girls' arms, then say "Keep your hands to yourself!" I couldn't focus on what was said after that because I was so transfixed watching the little girl rub her arm where Kate manhandled her...in front of goodness knows how many viewers! All of the interviews I have seen with the kids in tow have been very brief...a few minutes. How has "Mom of the Year" been unable to get the children to sit quietly for these?! I have been an educator of children for 18 years now and can tell you, it can be done. Even with the O.D.D. children. I have kept an entire class under control for special parent programs, speakers, etc. and I can assure you I am no Wonder Woman. Those children have just not been trained to know how to behave. Maybe if the stay-at-home mom really stayed at home, she would have time to do this. Hmmmm...

My husband and I have been following the show each Monday with a GWOP epilogue for each episode. It is amazing to me that anyone can watch the show and not "get it".

I will leave on this note. I was amazed by the photos of the house they just vacated...Kate didn't try to sell the double set of washer/dryers?!

Sue said...

My take on Kate's reaction to fiding out the other momm had 14 kids was, "Oh my word, I can't cotrol the eight I have, how is that woman going to cope with 14?"
She looked like she was about ready to throw up her hands and run out of the room while her kids were yelling and hitting each other on camera.

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