Kate Presumes to Give "Advice" to Octuplet Mom Nadya Suleman

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While GWoP is a blog for discussion of the Gosselin family, Kate has alreaady given several interviews regarding the recent birth of octuplets in California. People are commenting on these interviews, and the octuplet birth in general, so we are setting up this thread for those comments. Please post your comments on the octuplets and on Kate's various interviews to this blog entry rather than to this week's "Free Discussion" blog entry.

As provided by one of our readers (Denise L):

A simple internet search reveals that the woman's name is Nadya Suleman, age 33. She does live with her parents and might be divorced as she is listed with a previous name of "Gutierrez." I looked it up on voompeople.com and confirmed it on white pages.com Her dad and mom's names are Angela and Ed Suleman and they live in Whittier. There are two addresses for them in Whittier and one must be the new palace for them, their daughter, the new high priestess of HOMs, and the poor HOMs themselves. What is this? This is like puppy mills for humans.


The link to some of the interviews are:

Access Hollywood Now on youtube.
CBS News Early Show

People
CNN

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zoey said...

This news was just released from a neighbor
"She is single. She used a sperm donor, someone she knew, who donated sperm a long time ago. He donated the sperm for the first six kids and she used his frozen sperm for these one. I don't think the sperm donor knows about these eight kids. He was not involved."

AnneMarie said...

Sick, sick sick.

My theory is that she got ahold of ovualation drugs online. I have no ideas on the sperm donor.

6 kids, living with your parents in a SMALL home.

Granddad is heading back to Iraq to help pay for this, unless one of the big networks steps up to foot the bill. Wouldn't suprise me in the least.

She's bankrupt.

My frustation with people who choose to follow through with HOM without the support or finances to do it themselves, continues.

Another Litter in America said...

Call it science, call it a medical breakthrough, call it in-vitro, call it "fertility treatments," call it "Thank-God-I'm-Alive-In-The-21st-Century-and-I-Have-Money," call it whatever it really is, but please don't call this "God's Plan" because it's not.

WTF? said...

This story is really fishy.

It's been all over the news here in CA, and what I want to know is who the hell is her GP, Dr. Mengele? Holy hell, why on earth would a doctor in his right mind prescribe fertility meds to a single woman living with her parents who has 6 kids?

Really, what kills me is that someone posted that some dirt rag is offering her big bucks for the exclusive.

KG said...

Okay, I have had enough of this madness! Like many, I used to adore the Gosselin's (yeah, gag.. I know). It INFURIATES me because if you think about it, TLC's stupidity pretty much promoted fertility treatments FOR MONETARY gain. Let me point out a couple of things..

Does anyone recall when Kate blamed society and said WE are responsible to take care of her kids because society promotes fertility drugs? Umm way to go Katie… maybe your sorry ass is responsible for possibly promoting to that woman who just had octuplets that having a litter of kids can buy your way through life.

While I understand the children are innocent and are blessings, this is just ridiculous.It has clearly been stated by the doctors that delivered the 8 that there is apparently no father figure, this woman in in her 30's, lives with her parents in a 2-3 bedroom one story home, has filed for bankruptcy even before she was pregnant AND already had 6 kids. I cannot force myself to believe she loves her kids… she already had six all under the age of 10 and could not even afford them and to have 8 more is just irresponsible!

Sorry to make assumptions but there are just some similarities that stick out: J+K wanted privacy in the beginning… then started accepting "gifts" (I mean, I would too), saying who were they to decide who lives and who didn’t (as far as the multiple pregnancies), and barely making ends meet.. Then all of a sudden they're "celebrities".

PLEASE DO NOT BLAME SOCIETY for "advertising" fertility treatments as SOCIETY will be the one paying and supporting these kids through taxes while this "bankrupt" mother recieves gifts, gets a reality show, a $1.3 million dollar bedroom for each of the 14 kids (sorry Kate)…

MARK MY WORDS.. You know it will happen.

Kate, not only is this woman going to put you in her shadows as she has SIX more kids than you, she is also going to eventually make a gravy train. I hate to make assumptions but does anyone else feel me on this?

I do find it funny though that Kate is all of a sudden on TV giving advice… shut up, b*tch. You know you don’t even have a chance because TLC is going to put ***** Suleman plus 14.

And if she has 14 kids, why would she take advice from someone who doesn’t even take care of their own kids? Maybe her camera crew should be the one on Good Morning America giving advice about multiples.

Why the bitterness? Oh it's simple really… Here is that lady filing bankruptcy, me working hard, then she has a litter, will eventually get rich because of her kids like J+k, claim all 14 kids on her taxes that WE all work hard for.

Yeah, I live in CA. Forgive me for being bitter… I know Im not supposed to make assumptions about the new mother but that was just irresponsible on her part and if you don’t think she was seeking media attention, think again when she shouldve thought about already having six AND living with her parents then running to a fertility doctor (or internet websites offering fertility medicine as others have stated).

I can just imagine.. Mom & 14 on TLC trying to show how "normal" they are… on trips to other COUNTRIES (of course they wont mention who paid for them)… I mean c'mon… J+K ONLY had 8.. Imagine what TLC is going to give on their hands and feet with 14. It's sick, really. These poor kids and their mothers/idiots.

ARHG!!

ROFL said...

I did hear on the radio that she was a "single mother" (via ABC news). I live in CA and the local news is going crazy right now. If I was this mom I'd be hiding too! Now the newscasters are starting to ask questions like "WHY"?!! and "HOW?!!

This could shine a whole new light on Queen Kate's empire, ROFL!

zoey said...

More breaking news on this nutjob.
According to the neighbor, the parents are very supportive of their daughter and even lost their own home in an effort to support her. "The parents lost their house supporting their daughter," the neighbor went on. "They actually bought this house for her, but then they lost their house supporting her and her kids and they had to move in with her. And now her father has to go back to Iraq to earn more money to support her. Her father either works as a truck driver or an interpreter [in Iraq]."

As to whether the mother herself works, the neighbor says: "She's a professional student and I want to know where the money's coming from to do this. Maybe she's using her student loans to do it."

KateKnowsNada said...

In the article from People..."If there's anyone who knows what it's like to raise a large family, it's Kate Gosselin." That makes me want to vomit. Yeah...if anyone knows how to raise a large family it's Kate's peon nannies, laundry people, PAs, and heck, even her landscaper probably knows more than she does.

KG said...

http://digital-copper.info/ed-and-nadya-suleman/

She apparently worked at a fertility clinic..

Mamaof15ispsycho said...

This woman had 8 eggs implanted, and when they asked if she wanted to selectively reduce, she said no.

She asked for it, she got it. Now she can rot in the pile of dirty diapers she's soon to be buried in. These people who make the most stupid decisions end up getting tons of things for free and becoming notorious. I just had a baby last year... do I get a prize?

Snowy Day said...

"Yeah...if anyone knows how to raise a large family it's Kate's peon nannies, laundry people, PAs, and heck, even her landscaper probably knows more than she does."

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Yeah.

Try asking Kate which toothbrush belongs to which kid. She doesn't know.

Try asking her which children are left-handed and which are right-handed. She doesn't know.

Try asking her if Aaden is near-sighted or far-sighted. She doesn't know.

Try asking her if she got a chance to hug each child on any given day. She doesn't know.

All of these things have been admitted by Kate herself on air. Yeah, she's a real expert at raising a large family.

PA-Renee' said...

Does anyone think the family in California who had the eight kids after already having 6 thought to themselves.........hey, J&K made it big with their circus, lets try and outdo them? This is getting darker and darker. I really think we all should be held accountable for this situation....Stop watching people so the demand for this type of "entertainment" goes away.
These kids are being abused and we are all snuggling down in our nice cozy houses watching it happen.

I posted this on the house thread but thought it belonged here too.

Desiree said...

OMG I didnt want to be the first to sat but did anyone else hear Mady's mouth in that interview?!

Sue said...

Oh. My. Goodness. That CBS Early Show interview says it all. her family is falling apart befroe her very eyes. This is a family on the brink.

Serena said...

The octuplets were purposely implanted.

Story here.

zoey said...

If there were no benefits to having HOM then maybe people would not desire them.

If there are no donations or corporate sponsorship or government funding would this woman have had octuplets or would she have decided to reduce. would Jon and kate have sextuplets or would they have reduced?

I think we all know the answer to this.

jack said...

anyway you slice it this is Bad publicity for Jon and Kate.

JJS said...

Leave it to Kate Gosselin to capitalize on someoneELSE's multiples. This woman's audacity knows no bounds.

I found KG's "advice" laughable. If she followed any of it herself, maybe her kids wouldn't be destined for an E! True Hollywood story in about 15 years...

My favorite Choose "Your battles – let little things go! You can't control everything. " Really Kate, you don't try to control everything??

As far as this mystery mom and her litter. Well, I think there are some doctors with screwed up ethics out there and a whole bunch of kids (14 in fact!) who will be paying for it. I certainly hope those babies continue to thrive and go nice and strong.

MidnightSun said...

The thought that Kate Gosselin is offering advice for this mom of octuplets is pathetic and laughable.

I, too, am very suspicious of all this. Yes, it's a miracle that (so far) all 8 babies are doing generally well considering their circumstances.

But I have a teeny bit of suspicion that this mother thinks she is going to cash in on the "parents of multiples with hit TV shows" craze. She may say she wants her privacy NOW, but I am willing to bet that will change as the media gets more aggressive in pursuing this family.

If this was planned for monetary purposes - it makes me sick that children are used in this manner.

Its A Good Thing said...

That is just sick, the fact that a doctor allowed this is just wrong. She already had 6 kids!

Twina said...

She must be waiting for Barabra, Diane or Katie C (or another big name reporter) to come with a big network cheque and interview her so she will get a big pay day.

SDJo said...

Why would a woman with six kids already need advice from Kate? Although this woman seems to be delusional anyway! Secondly, after watching Kate parent her kids, I wouldn't call her successful. I don't know any parent that would want advice from her. She seems apathetic about even having kids. (Sarcastically)They ruin her routine, they're always around needing something, they take up all her thoughts! The audacity of her children taking up all her thoughts and energy! There's no way she could have predicted that children could need this much attention!

Does she let the kids talk at home? She seems so offput by the noise all the time. Her most frequent comment is that it is so loud. Should we have pity on her? Gag me! I'm a teacher of young children. It didn't take me long to get used to the noise. Although I also teach my children when it is time to talk and when it is time to be quiet. Ugh...this woman is insane!

Marie said...

Here is an article from the Sun. I do not know how legit it is but a goos read.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2191783.ece?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

samcarter said...

I love how Kate's face froze over when she heard that Nadya Suleman has 14 kids total. Total. Shock. Ha!

As for the octuplet mom, I think it's sick that a fertility doctor would implant 8 embryos in a young mother. Usual protocol is no more than four. It's just stinking weird. i wonder if they're building a cult, with a compound ("A house far from here, you will never know where it is"). Why else would Mom and Dad be so understanding?

Teryn said...

Wow! You know those Gosselin kids were in for it when they got home for that bad behavior...which they should. They behaved awful.

You can't tell me that woman doesn't spank. The look on Alexis's face when Kate grabbed her arm was a look of fear. But I am not against spanking, just people who pretend they don't, but do.

That Mady is way too fresh and needs some of that "punished with severeness" Kate so eloquently talked about in her new bedroom.

Marilyn D said...

Serena said...
The octuplets were purposely implanted.

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Serena, I am not at ALL certain that I believe this. There is a big black market in fertility drugs. All this chick had to do was get some Chlomid on the black market and inject herself with mega doses. Then, she gets someone to impregnate her in the usual manner. Done! Look at Kate Gosselin, the role model for scams. I sincerely believe that's the method she used as well. Looks like Nadya has a palace waiting for her and her new litter for the circus act to end all circus acts. Maybe Kate's head will explode!

Funky Cold Madina said...

I wonder if this woman did this on purpose, hoping she'd get a reality show on TLC and get all kinds of free trips and freebies.

Sue said...

It is obvious on these interviews that Kate is completely overwhelmed by her kids. Mady tells her one of the girls needs a spanking. The comment,"I like Daddy better" obviously hit Kate like a daggar, even though she tried to laugh it off.

justasking said...

JJS said: "As far as this mystery mom and her litter. Well, I think there are some doctors with screwed up ethics out there and a whole bunch of kids (14 in fact!) who will be paying for it. I certainly hope those babies continue to thrive and go nice and strong."


Not arguing, just wondering how you know that doctors were involved in this woman's use of fertility drugs. A woman can get fertility drugs on her own and have sex. In fact, if you read Kate Gosselin's account of how she became pregnant with sextuplets it sounds as if the doctor advised against implantation when she ended up in a hyper ovulated state. However, Kate and Jon could have had sex anyway. Doctors don't have any say over what their patients do on their own behind closed doors. The mother of octuplets showed up at the OB's already 3 mos. pregnant with multiples. Perhaps what does deserve criticism is how the delivery room doctors presented the situation at the first news conference as if it was a miracle rather than the mistake it was.

KG said...

Hey "ridiculous", with all due respect you must be on the wrong website as this is NOT a Gosselin fan site. No one is "making" things up..

Look around and you will get sources. Just like anything is available to us know via internet.

Don't come to a website and DISrespect nor demand "sources" if you have not yet tried looking for them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400462/posts

Also, Jon and Kate don't need help "making themselves look bad".. they do fine just on their own.

And please, next time you request where we get our info, at least have some nerve to not make up such a "ridiculous" name.

Mom O' Trips said...

I call BS on the IVF with 8 embryos. No reputable, ethical fertility clinic or physician would implant that many embryos. The max used to be 6, but with better success rates, they cut the max down to 4 in most clinics. Multiple births, at least more than twins, are seen as "failures" within the legitimate fertility community. This woman with the 14 kids should be checked out by CPS - she's not sane. I'm sure she's one of those crazies that just likes babies and when they grow into kids she has no more use for them.

I speak with a little bit of experience, as I am the mother of 10 year-old triplets that we conceived through IVF. We were considered a poor outcome at conception, but luckily, I am a freak of nature and could have easily carried a larger "litter" to term. Only when they were born, fat and happy and non-preemie, did my doctors consider my pregnancy a success for their clinic.

As for Kate, et al, I am not a supporter. I have watched since the beginning, thinking that they were a cute family, but soon saw what all of you here seem to see. She is a shrew and a pimp. She was here a week or so ago and a friend of mine went to see her speak. She said she was not inspiring or a good speaker and that she looked pretty bad with the fake tan, the hedgehog hair and the skeletal frame. The latest episode with the new house was "horrendously horrendous".

Concerning the new clips of Kate giving her "advice" the the octo-mom, I have to comment. Yes, her kids are ill behaved, and she doesn't seem to parent them very well, however, most people don't realize the mob mentality that multiple possess. Even my three can be hard to handle in some situation. Luckily, more times than not they are well behaved, but there have been times that they weren't and it had not a thing to do with our parenting. They just KNOW that they have you outnumbered and it is SO different that having a bunch of kids of different ages. Something about them all being at the same stage of everything can be daunting. That said, they should stop the circus immediately, because it is obvious that at least one of the kids is ready for it to be over. I have disliked Mady in the past, but now I only pity her.

Anne said...

Marilyn,

it has been reported that this woman works at a fertility clinic..

Enough said.

Sue said...

Kate seemed overwhelmed in the interviews. It seemed like they were doing several at one time and the kids did not want any part of it. She seemed very angry and upset by their behavior (which was terrible). Mady said just about everything possible to embarrass her.

Shannon said...

Thanks for the CBS video link. I did not see this one this morning, but my mom did. She was telling me how bratty the kids were all acting on the floor and how Kate appeared to pinch Alexis with that look of sheer anger across her face.

Mom said it was sad how Kate has raised children that she can't control. Kids who do not know how to keep their hands to themselves. And a older daughter who clearly tries to sabtage her mother's "job" and who can't say anything nice about her siblings.

I had to remind her that those children haven't been raised by a mother and that is the problem. Instead, they've been raised by tv cameras and a money hungry Mommy, Daddy, and tv crew who care nothing about the kids except for the cash they are bringing in.

I feel sad for the kids that it's becoming crystal clear what the side effects of what Kate's "fame" is doing to them.

As for this mom of 14, I wonder if she wamted to have this many kids for her own chance to cash in too. After all, we see what having a lot of kids has done for John and Kate.

justasking said...

Serena, the ABC news article quotes the grandmother as saying her daughter was implanted with 8 embryos. Until a clinic and/or physician is identified I will keep an open mind to the possibility that the mother, who showed up 3 mos pregnant at the OB's, took fertility drugs on her own and had sex. Perhaps there is a mentally ill physician who believed that implanting 8 embryos was a good thing, but until that is proven we should lay off the medical profession. I also have never seen anywhere that Kate Gosselin actually had multiple embryos implanted. She had overstimulated ovaries due to taking fertility drugs. If a doctor refused to implant at this time she could have had sex. Has any doctor ever been identified as Kate's fertility specialist her implanted multiple embryos?

mollybloom said...

I read on MSNBC that some doctors (who did not treat the woman in California) suspected that fertility drugs were involved, but not transplanted embryos. Transplanting more than 3 or 4 embryos is not ethical, and I can't imagine why anyone other than Dr. Nick from the Simpsons would do anything like that. Doctors' reputations can be ruined, after all. However, if over-stimulated ovaries meet busy sperm, we know what can happen. Just like our Kate.

momof5 said...

If you want to have 14 kids that's fine with me but my problem is when the parents/family starts asking for & getting all kinds of freebies.

My philosphy is "have as many kids as you want as long as you can pay for them".

lifeoriley said...

The story about the woman with octuptlets is disturbing, to say the least. However, I don't know all the details -- was it confirmed that she had IVF? If so, their needs to be stricter regulations about the # of embryos that may be implanted at one time.
Also, it is my opinion that there needs to be tighter control on fertility drugs as well.

Also, just when I think that KG cannot possibly grate on me any more than she already has, something new happens. This interview(s) was a joke. The octuplet story has nothing to do with KG. Way to capitalize on someone else's situation, Kon. Kate always manages to make things about her.
And WOW-- could Mady be any more unhappy? I shuddered at the scary look of death and PAINFUL-looking arm squeeze (to Alexis) by Frau Gosselin!

Miss Brown Betti said...

I just viewed the Access Hollywood interview. Mady is way out of line in my book. I know that she is a high spirited girl and that she is outspoken but to boldly disrespect her mother. Mady had that same attitude towards Kate in the church in Hawaii. When I was a girl I used to say awful things to my mother....Once I got to my bedroom and she couldn't hear me. I was brought up with respect and not fear. But since I am NOT a fan of Kate....Served Kate right to be given some of her own medicine on national televison....At least this time the little girls hair was combed...What a rare treat that we got to see their cute little faces..

zoey said...

Shannon said:

Thanks for the CBS video link. I did not see this one this morning, but my mom did. She was telling me how bratty the kids were all acting on the floor and how Kate appeared to pinch Alexis with that look of sheer anger across her face.

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Pinch...??? no Kate did not pinch alexis... clearly she gave alexis the Vulcan death grip....

VillageMom said...

It's been speculated that Ms. Suleman had eight embryos implanted by a clinic that is not in the U.S., which is why her situation seems to violate standard medical ethics.

There is absolutely no reason, other than greed or mental instability, why a woman with six children ages seven and under would need treatment for "infertility".

KG said...

lifeoforiley-- How have I grated on you? Were you "ridiculous?" Please let me know and if I came off the wrong way, I apologize as my intention is not to disrespect but when others demand before doing research.. it's rather baffling.

Also, thanks for pointing out that the octuplets story has nothing to do with me...

but if it did, I will take all you GWoPpers into my McMansion. ;)

Lightly Row said...

"I just viewed the Access Hollywood interview. Mady is way out of line in my book. I know that she is a high spirited girl and that she is outspoken but to boldly disrespect her mother."

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I agree that children should not disrespect their parents, HOWEVER, I believe that is a two-way street AND that respect must be earned.

Kate neither gives her own children respect, nor has she earned their respect. She deserved exactly what she got from Mady.

By the way, I love how Kate was ostensibly there to give advice to Nadya Suleman, but the minute she opened her mouth the interview was all about HER... "The kids are so noisy, yes, this is what my life is like!"... stupid cow.

Protect8 said...

During the interviews Mady exhibited the exact same behavior that is modeled by her parents on a daily (well, at least the four days out of each week that cameras are in the house) basis. Mady's sarcastic attitude and put down of Kate is what Kate does to Mady. Kate openly praises Cara over Mady, Mady openly praised Jon over Kate. Kate throws a damp rag over any positive situation, Mady threw a damp rag over any positive association to having sextuplet siblings. Parents who disrespect their kids will be disrespected by their kids. Bullying, spankings, time outs, silent treatments (and I'll bet Kate is great at this one) will not earn Jon and Kate respect from Mady.

bcd5 said...

Wow - I just viewed the Access Hollywood interview, and I am on the fence about Mady's behavior. On one hand, if any of my children talked to me that way, in public or in private, they would be in some serious trouble. I could easily see some of their favorite freetime things being taken away, such as no TV or no phone. I would be mortified! On the other hand, when the children are rarely ever around their mother, how do you expect them to act? When Mady said "quit trying to be my boss," maybe she was inferring that Kate never was around to discipline her any other time, so why start now? I think that was very telling of the kind of life they lead, what kind of parent Kate is, and what their kids' opinion of it all seems to be. Not sure if Kate is too dim to see it, but things seem to be un-ravelling before her eyes. I didn't see Kate jump up and say "all mine, as far as the eye can see" on this morning's interview...

boyscoutmomx5 said...

KG said...
lifeoforiley-- How have I grated on you? Were you "ridiculous?" Please let me know and if I came off the wrong way, I apologize as my intention is not to disrespect but when others demand before doing research.. it's rather baffling.

Also, thanks for pointing out that the octuplets story has nothing to do with me...

but if it did, I will take all you GWoPpers into my McMansion. ;)

1/30/2009 2:08 PM

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KG I believe the poster meant Kate Gosselin not you... unless you are Kate Irene Gosselin then it was you she meant. ;)

boyscoutmomx5 said...

Protect8 said...
During the interviews Mady exhibited the exact same behavior that is modeled by her parents on a daily (well, at least the four days out of each week that cameras are in the house) basis. Mady's sarcastic attitude and put down of Kate is what Kate does to Mady. Kate openly praises Cara over Mady, Mady openly praised Jon over Kate. Kate throws a damp rag over any positive situation, Mady threw a damp rag over any positive association to having sextuplet siblings. Parents who disrespect their kids will be disrespected by their kids. Bullying, spankings, time outs, silent treatments (and I'll bet Kate is great at this one) will not earn Jon and Kate respect from Mady.

1/30/2009 2:19 PM

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Amen to that, you hit the nail on the head.

Moons in Leo said...

JMO, we need to stop glorifying women who have a whole lotta babies either at once or over years. Our economy can't support it. Even if a mega family gets a year or two of free diapers or formula there is going to come a time when the taxpayers are going to have to foot the bill.

Is there some kind of regulation on IVF or do we trust doctors to do the right thing?

KG will now be Kris.. LOL. I am not the devil, Kate! said...

boyscoutmomx5-- Thanks for pointing that out! I completely forgot I had the same initials as Lucifer.... from now on, I will use a different name. LOL.

talklesssaymore said...

"Stop trying to be my boss" is exactly what I told my mother, who decided that she should work from home and tell me when to do my homework, when to watch tv, etc. when I was 16. Until that point, I walked home by myself (starting at age 8), did my own homework, created my own timelines for things; essentially raised myself.

The thing is, usually kids don't say things out of pure spite. There is a reason behind it. And I think you nailed it right on the head when you said Kate's never around, so of COURSE she resents the mixed message of you can usually take care of yourself but now I'm going to tell you what to do.

Lee said...

I am simply blown away by the CBS and Access Hollywood interviews with Kate and the children.
The hitting, teasing and most especially, Mady's comments! Although all kids have disagreements/conflicts with their siblings, Mady's listing of complaints were delivered in such a rapid-fire way that it is obvious that she has been thinking about them for awhile. As for her comment about liking her father better than her mother.... very telling!
I am sure that Kate's response will be to punish Mady - can you believe the look that Kate gave those children in the CBS interview???? But, what Kate should be doing is reevaluating the life she has created for her children. Having all of those children SHOULD be demanding work... soothing the jealousies and providing as much one on one time as possible. She is so busy with "the business" that she simply isn't providing the attention that those children need.

Last thought - where did the interviews take place? Did she drag those kids into NYC on a school day? Well, her attempt at self-promotion (tv screen in background blaring Jon and Kate Plus Eight on TLC) certainly blew up in her face!!

I love my son! said...

Well I'm not sure if anyone else is having trouble watching the videos, but I can't view them!

Lexie said...

Wow...The kids looked so bored, especially Mady and Cara! Why in the world did they need to be there? Mady's responses were hilarious, though. I hope she didn't get in too much trouble for that.

I was a bit disturbed that the interviewer thought Kate roughly grabbing Alexis was "awesome." I was shocked that she said that.

Corinne said...

Protect8 said...
During the interviews Mady exhibited the exact same behavior that is modeled by her parents on a daily (well, at least the four days out of each week that cameras are in the house) basis. Mady's sarcastic attitude and put down of Kate is what Kate does to Mady. Kate openly praises Cara over Mady, Mady openly praised Jon over Kate. Kate throws a damp rag over any positive situation, Mady threw a damp rag over any positive association to having sextuplet siblings. Parents who disrespect their kids will be disrespected by their kids. Bullying, spankings, time outs, silent treatments (and I'll bet Kate is great at this one) will not earn Jon and Kate respect from Mady.
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Exactly. I might make some Team Mady shirts later, anybody want one?

Cristina said...

I was a bit disturbed that the interviewer thought Kate roughly grabbing Alexis was "awesome." I was shocked that she said that.

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That bothered me too. She was just gushing about what a great parent Kate was for snapping at/grabbing Alexis like that. As far as I could tell, Alexis wasn't really even doing anything all that bad right then.

And having one four year old sibling is the same as having six? Really? I guess Kate can use that as an excuse for her rotten moods, but Mady can't.

wramblinwreck said...

"the ABC news article quotes the grandmother as saying her daughter was implanted with 8 embryos. Until a clinic and/or physician is identified I will keep an open mind to the possibility that the mother, who showed up 3 mos pregnant at the OB's, took fertility drugs on her own and had sex."

In an interview withe the LA Times, the grandmother stated the embryos were implanted. If the mother herself said the embryos were implanted and named the doctor who did it, I suspect you'd still choose to believe what you want to believe.


"Perhaps there is a mentally ill physician who believed that implanting 8 embryos was a good thing, but until that is proven we should lay off the medical profession."

Throughout the day, in the numerous stories that have been on done on this event, several specialists in this field have voiced their opposition to the practice of implanting as many as 8embryos, so the medical profession has been openly critical of those in their profession who would do such a thing. If the medical profession itself is critical of the practice, I see no reason for anyone else to "lay off" voicing their opinion as well.

Gloria said...

"The thought that Kate Gosselin is offering advice for this mom of octuplets is pathetic and laughable."

The idea of Kate Gosselin offering parenting advice to anyone is laughable. And what is even more pathetic is that there are people out there who fawn and swoon over her who WANT it. Sheeple who can't recognize her for what she is. I mean, how much more blatant can it get!? How can people NOT see what she really is?

I could start listing examples, but it has all been said here many times over, and I would be preaching to the choir.

Catherine K said...

On Mady's interview behavior... She's standing up for herself. In a soon-to-be-tween kind of way. Sassy and negative, yes. Smart, too, if she knows how Kate cares about appearances. At least one person in that house is standing up for herself.

Serena said...

Wow...The kids looked so bored, especially Mady and Cara! Why in the world did they need to be there?

There was absolutely NO reason for those children to have to be dragged out on that stage. They were being used as nothing more than animals on display at the zoo.

I'll give Mady a lot of credit, though... I think she has figured out that the more outrageously she speaks in public, the less often she'll have to appear in public. Smart girl; I hope her plan works.

Former Fan said...

In the CBS interview you could see Kate's little world collapse when they told her the woman already had 6 kids. I laughed so hard. She is no longer an oddity who needs her own TV show.

Its A Good Thing said...

Corinne: Definitely would take a Team Maddy t-shirt, also perhaps you could sell some for the boys.


Kate needs to realize that its icky boys who got her the wealth.

flatmouse said...

Watching the interview session fall apart was priceless. But after watching Kate's reaction to Mady and the claw grip she gave Alexis, I'm afraid there might have been "severe punishment" at home. If what we see happening before our eyes is disturbing, what goes on behind closed doors and when the cameras are off?

Sue said...

Can anyone else but me picture this interview as a Carol Burnett show parody? Carol playing Kate, Vicki Lawrence as Mady, Harvey Korman as Collin, and Tim Conway as Joel. Can't you just see Carol Burnett screwing up her face when Mady sasses her? LOL!

Becca said...

There is so much "entitlement" in our society today. Late felt entitled to help from the community because she chose to have 8 kids. My husband's secretary feels entitled to take as much time off as she wants without prior approval because she has a chronically ill child (not a choice, but she choses to work while her husband is supposed to be the stay at home parent) ...I am sure this woman will feel entitled to welfare, WIC, etc etc because of her choices. I think I was raised the wrong way, I work for everything and maybe I need some freebies!!!

What is going on? said...

I am not a fan of Kate's nor do I think she should be giving advice, but I disagree with sone of the talk about the kids behavior. It was bad but remember their kids!!Who knows how long they had to sit there with a slinky when the interview had nothing to do with them. My kids would be bored too. Now on the other hand, Mady's responses were great, I hope to hear more of her interviews.

Four said...

Flat Mouse Said:

Watching the interview session fall apart was priceless. But after watching Kate's reaction to Mady and the claw grip she gave Alexis, I'm afraid there might have been "severe punishment" at home. If what we see happening before our eyes is disturbing, what goes on behind closed doors and when the cameras are off?

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I honestly don't know what disturbed me more, Kate clawing the kid (and it obviously hurt Alexis) or the interviewer gushing "wow, that really works! I'll have to try that at home!" What the heck? Since when has squeezing your kid's arm (probably pinching the skin) while delivering a threat considered good parenting skills to be emulated. Oh brother.

fourteen kids are a kindergarten class, not a family said...

she's trying to give advice to a woman who already has six kids at home? come on, kate. not everything in the world has to do with you, as much as you wish it were so.

Trash TV said...

Mady was simply mimicking the couch interviews Kate and Jon have. She must've figured since Jon wasn't there, she'd fill in for him. Mady knows bickering and sassiness happens when you sit next to Kate in a chair.

Old School said...

Call me old school but Mady was out of line!!! Mady is intitled to her feelings but she still should not be disrespectful to her mother of dad. We have seen that on many occassions. Jon and Kate deserve that disrespect because they have taught Mady that it is OKAY to talk that way to them. I have 4 grown children ranging from 21-32 and they dont talk rude to me.
As a matter o-fact I am 53 and I still dont talk nor act disrespectful to my mother who is 75. Shame on Mady and J/K as well.

wramblinwreck said...

"I disagree with sone of the talk about the kids behavior. It was bad but remember their kids!!Who knows how long they had to sit there with a slinky when the interview had nothing to do with them. My kids would be bored too."

My kids would be bored as well, which is the reason I'd never subject them to such treatment as these kids had to endure. This is precisely the reason the Gosselins need to stop parading their kids on every TV show their PR people can get for them, and stop the show as well. There was no need for the kids to be at these interviews. The subject was Kate's experience as the mother of HOM and her advice (gag) to the octuplet mom. The clips from the J&K+8 showing the kids were sufficient to demonstrated that Kate is their mom. The only reason the kids were there was to display them like exotic zoo animals. They should have been in school, not subjected to stupid interview questions (the twins) like whether or not they have a good mommy.

Who Pooped?????? said...

What is going on? said...
I am not a fan of Kate's nor do I think she should be giving advice, but I disagree with sone of the talk about the kids behavior. It was bad but remember their kids!!Who knows how long they had to sit there with a slinky when the interview had nothing to do with them. My kids would be bored too. Now on the other hand, Mady's responses were great, I hope to hear more of her interviews.

1/30/2009 4:30 PM

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All 18 Duggar kids would have sat there and not made a peep no matter how long they had to sit and wait. And they don't have to be threatened to be quiet either.

Techymum said...

"Teryn said...

That Mady is way too fresh and needs some of that "punished with severeness" Kate so eloquently talked about in her new bedroom."

Please Teryn - re-rhink this one. There was no reason for any of these children to be dragged away from their normal life (well, what should be a normal life) to go and do interviews. There would have been travel time, make up time, sitting under the hot lights - and most likely all started early in the morning.

Mady and Cara are smart enough to know that the draw is the tups, leaving them as not much more than "extra's".

Kate - go and do all the interviews you want, but leave those children home.

lalaland said...

Sue said...
Can anyone else but me picture this interview as a Carol Burnett show parody? Carol playing Kate, Vicki Lawrence as Mady, Harvey Korman as Collin, and Tim Conway as Joel. Can't you just see Carol Burnett screwing up her face when Mady sasses her? LOL!

You're showing your age, Sue.....but yes! : )

BeWong said...

One thing I noticed right away watching these current interviews with Access Hollywood and CBS was how badly these kids were behaving. Remember when the Gosselins did Oprah or Ellen? Granted the kids are a few years older now, but they were relatively well behaved then, and certainly not now. I remember when I first started watching this show, I used to marvel at how well these kids behaved. Now, their behaviour is atrocious!! I think it just goes to show J&K's lack of involvement in their kids lives and their lack of discipline. Go Mady, Go!!!

C said...

Oh my! Did you hear the twins response in the CBS spot when the interviewer asked them to rate their mom? Is she a good mom? I thought I heard a no? And then Mady says, "I still like my Dad better!" WOW!!!

What a nightmare of an interview with Kate. From the beginning to end. Yikes!

Carolina said...

I love it! I can't afford fertility treatments for myself, but man does it feel good knowing that my tax dollars go to support this. UGH. Rage is not enough of a word to express the emotion I feel. There are so many of us who cannot have our own children, yet we get to financially support people who DELIBERATELY have too many.

tmc said...

I just watched the tape of "The Early Show". I cannot believe what Mady said. "I like Daddy better". I couldn't believe it... Kate must have been mortified. She deserves it. It just really shows the true colors of this family. I bet life is miserable in that house. Geez, I'm still in shock!!!!!

MaryAnn said...

California needs 8 more immigrants to feed, clothe, school and raise.
It will cost the state millions of dollars. What the heck?

Anonymomma said...

I think that now, with this mother in the spotlight for pulling a Gosselin, it's the perfect time to get the word out there about the Gosselins and the exploitation of their kids for profit. Kate admits openly tat they were in no financial position to have 6 babies yet did it anyway. Minus the sperm donor aspect, there really isn't much difference between the two women is there?

Nevermind writing to Kmart, I spent my afternoon writing emails to several different news sources asking them to look into "America's Favorite Family" on the basis of fertility fraud as well.

Teryn said...

Techymum said...
"Teryn said...

That Mady is way too fresh and needs some of that "punished with severeness" Kate so eloquently talked about in her new bedroom."

Please Teryn - re-rhink this one. There was no reason for any of these children to be dragged away from their normal life (well, what should be a normal life) to go and do interviews. There would have been travel time, make up time, sitting under the hot lights - and most likely all started early in the morning.

Mady and Cara are smart enough to know that the draw is the tups, leaving them as not much more than "extra's".

Kate - go and do all the interviews you want, but leave those children home.

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You're right. What was I thinking?

Jennifer said...

I just watched that video (already forgot which it was) where people reported Mady saying that she thought Alexis "needs a spanking." I heard her say "scolding." Was this dubbed over afterward???

wramblinwreck said...

"pulling a Gosselin"

Hee! In a perfect world, this would become the standard jargon for referring to irresponsible use of fertility treatments!

timetogokon said...

Nevermind writing to Kmart, I spent my afternoon writing emails to several different news sources asking them to look into "America's Favorite Family" on the basis of fertility fraud as well.

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After the most controversial episodes ( Vow Renewal, St Judes' and The New House Epi), I've taken a curious peek at the sheeple site.

Lo and behold, there are comments that are actually suspicious of this new mom's situation of having 6 young children and then using drugs to have 8 more. I couldn't believe my eyes - why can't they see KON with the same clear vision?

tmc said...

Sorry, I just have to post again. After watching the "The Early Show", I then watched the "Access Hollywood" spot. I'm still in shock over the first tape with Mady and then I'm equally appalled at the second. My opinion is just of complete and utter sadness for Mady and the rest of the Gosslins. Where was Jon during this interview? Kate was all dolled up for this interview. Oh, and the hair....

R in Texas said...

Wow.

There is so much to say about this woman in California, yet nothing to say. When someone with six children she cannot afford pursues ferility drugs, what's the point of "talking to her?" She obviously is not very "with it." Unfortunately, the kiddos are the ones who pay the price.

Which brings us to....the Gosselins. They are adorable and well groomed but missing the things that matters the most - parents who give them the emotional support, attention, and love they so desperately need. Was Mady a sass? Yes, but I think that is her way of showing her unhappiness. As far as Alexis was concerned, I did not see what she was doing that her other brothers and sisters were not doing. Kate clearly has her number, and Alexis will have hers in about fifteen years when the first tell all book/blog/tabloid interview comes to press.

My point? If this woman in California has any sense (which I doubt - see the first full paragraph of this entry), she will realize from the Gosselins the money and security mean squat when your own children, the only family members you still interact with, cannot stand you. However, like the Gosselins, what are her choices? Most jobs like most of us "average" non-Sheeple work can barely support more than two to three children in this day and age, much less eight or fourteen.

Keep discussing!

cherish said...

The way I see it,

Mady's behavior in response to whether or not she likes her brothers and sisters is EXACTLY the way Kate talks about Mady when she's on the couch in the interview portion of the show.

Kate should not be surprised or angry at Mady's response, it's as if she's looking at Mini Me in the mirror.

Marie said...

Just a few words:

The Early Show interview: was there ever a more surly, miserable looking Kate? And having to bark at her children on live TV. I cringed.

Infertility treatments: Speaking from first hand IVF experience (x2 actually) this is not considered a success in medicine. This is a failure. You get these crazy people and their equally crazy doctors and bad medicine comes out. It is these one in a million octuplet outcomes that make the entire science look bad. But please please please do not misjudge infertility treatment as being a sure fire way to have twenty kids at once. You are lucky to have ONE. Seriously. This octuplet woman (and even Kate) could have avoided all of this by cancelling the cycle. No selective reduction necessary. If you overstimulate and produce too many follicles, any normal doctor cancels your cycle. And you don't put in 8 embryos at once! good grief!

Erica said...

justasking said...
I also have never seen anywhere that Kate Gosselin actually had multiple embryos implanted. She had overstimulated ovaries due to taking fertility drugs. If a doctor refused to implant at this time she could have had sex. Has any doctor ever been identified as Kate's fertility specialist her implanted multiple embryos?
1/30/2009 1:49 PM
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If you are going through IVF, mature eggs are removed from the ovaries, fertilized in a petri dish and 3-5 (sometimes longer) days later, the embryos that are showing the most potential/dividing at the correct rate, etc can be transferred back into the uterus. Where some will implant and may become a viable pregnancy and some will not.

There is no "just have sex" option with IVF once the mature eggs are extracted. They're gone. There's nothing to fertilize internally anymore.

If the ovaries are just stimulated to produce more eggs, either for the purpose of harvesting for IVF or for a "turkey baster sperm injection" approach, yes having sex can result in a multiple pregnancy if there is overstimulated. Sometimes this is done as a last resort when an IVF cycle fails - ie, they are unable to retrieve the eggs before they fully mature and are released from the ovary.

So with Kate (and the octuplet mom), it was either a fertility doctor making a bad decision to transfer 7 or 8 (or more!) developing embryos back after IVF OR the moms had treatments (Clomid, etc) to make their ovaries produce more eggs and then they were fertilized internally after sex or a sperm injection of some sort. It can't be both.

Kate has said she has PCOS, so the second is more than likely for her (it's a common way of dealing with the fertility issues with polycystic ovary syndrome). The articles about the 8 have said that they were implanted = IVF. HORRIBLE ethics in a mom that obviously doesn't have major fertility issues and there is a high likelyhood of achieving a pregnancy with even 1-3 implanted.

/fertility treatment mini-lecture over

CJ said...

Anonymomma - I loved your line "Pulling a Gosselin". It's the perfect description for having a litter & expecting everyone else to provide for them.

Mrs. H said...

Any mom, whether it be one kid or 10 can always give a new mom advice. Yes this woman has 14 kids now but that does not mean us moms with only one or 2 kids do not know what we are talking about or what it is like to be tired, excuse me, EXHAUSTED, or to just want to relax.

Honestly though, the one piece of "advice" that I totally agree on is that tomorrow always comes and that every day is a new day. That is so true. There can be days where my daughter drives me nuts, but tomorrow always comes and I just love her even more the next day.

Mary Mary quite contrary said...

"Save and spend smart – lots of kids means lots of saving is necessary! Use coupons, buy in bulk, watch for sales! It's a must!!"

My mother taught me this as a young teenager and now that I am a mom in my 20s to 1 child I still do this. Having a child in general means you have to save. I have been using coupons for years, and anyone who knows how to use scissors can do it too. It's not some magic thing that only people with large families do.

Abettermom said...

This is my first time posting here. I've watched the show for about a year or so and while in the beginning I found it a bit intriguing, I quickly became annoyed with the parents and the examples they were setting. I've read the blog for months and while sometimes I do feel some posts go to a level of mean that is unnecessary and diminishing to the impact of the legitimate points and issues, I do agree with many of the concerns. I considered posting after watching the new house episode because it made me so sad and disheartened. I was thoroughly disgusted with Kate's behavior - her reaction to the fridge, her walking around aimlessly in a pretend search for a "pooper" just to show how big the house was, her then choosing to leave a kid somewhere in need of help with a dirty bottom, her negativity spewed at the kids during interaction after interaction, and finally the moment that reached me on a level as a mother (not in a good way) that has rarely been touched before - her drill sergeant speech regarding not entering their room. What the heck is wrong with that women (that's a rhetorical question)? How absolutely sad and heartbreaking. Her children are young and small and need her in ways that she is never there - physically and mentally. How can she not get that? How can she be so disconnected from the mother/child bonds? But, that's already been hashed out under the new house episode posts so I won't go on. What compelled me to post today was how disgusted I felt after watching the Access Hollywood clip and CBS This Morning clip (everyone should watch them both if they haven't already). The kids are obviously unhappy being there and she reprimands them fairly severely on national tv for doing what - just being little kids. They are four and half years old. The venom in that woman's eyes when she speaks to them is of utmost concern. And Mady just appears to be suffering at the hands of her mother. Can't Kate realize that her choices are the reasons why this child is developing problems and behaving in the manner in which she regularly does? And the word "spank" sure does seem to be creeping into the kid's dialogue a lot lately. Is that the Gosselin's approach to good parenting - beat their kids into submission? And one last thing - flaunting that you have a storage room in your basement for food to replenish your kitchen cupboards, which must be done daily, is of no help to anyone when seeking advice on how to raise a large family. I know at this point she does little if anything for herself, but saying this to a mother who now has 14 kids and allegedly lives with her Mom is absurd at the least. Not only can Kate not relate to "normal" working parents anymore, she clearly also can no longer even connect with parents of large multiples. Why on earth does anyone think anything this woman has to say will be of any merit? Why do people continue to give her a platform? How do they not walk away scratching their heads in disbelief? How do people not call her out and confront her when she displays this behavior or says the absolutely ignorant things that she does? Honestly, the only good coming from this woman at this time is showing me and other moms exactly how not to be. She is a constant reminder to myself to reevaluate myself as a parent and constantly consider what an impact I or my choices have on my child. We all make mistakes; we all have bad moments that we wish we would have handled differently or maybe had more patience - in the grocery store, at a restaurant, etc.... but just because you have eight kids does not give you a free pass at being a constant source of negativity and condescendence, not to mention possessing a tone that would be too harsh for an animal. Why can't Dr Phil, Dateline, or some other investigative type show address what so many seem to be ignoring? And this woman who is working on this freelance story - does anyone have a time line for this or a destination for what she will produce? Something has to come out into the mainstream media. While it makes us all feel better to have the blog as an outlet to vent our concerns and frustrations, in the grand scheme, the impact of those actions is minimal. I realize some people email sponsors and contact churches, which is admirable and noble, but it's just not enough. The legitimate issues and concerns that are raised on this blog have to find their way into mainstream media - tv shows, national newspapers, credible magazine, etc... I think then and only then will things really start to change for those children.

Ok, I'm done with my rant. Thanks for listening/reading.

Johanna said...

Mady: "I want to go home" Kate replies: "No, we can't go home, kids sit down we're interviewing."
Wow. Just wow. These kids are crying out for help in front of us all - they want a normal childhood. Can somebody put an end to the madness?
TLC, please develop a conscience and put an end to their misery. Cancel Jon and Kate. Stop viewing the Gosselin kids as your little cash cows and see them for what they are. Children who are suffering because of a network's and their parent's greed.

Monica A said...

I don't even know where to start with this.....

I went through fertility treatments, took double doses of Clomid (per Dr's orders)and experienced a hyper ovulated state myself on more than one cycle. Our dr. would not proceed with the IUI process and cautioned us about our "behind closed door relations" because of the risk of multiples. I ended up with 1 child...it is called maturity and responsibility.

I cannot believe this single, bankrupt mother with six kids already living with her parents had 8 more kids! Who cares if they were implanted? What could she have been thinking???

But I loved the look on Kate's face when she realized that there were a total of 14 kids though.....ha! It must have been a 'there goes my meal ticket' moment. And I can't believe anybody would want advice from her. HELLO???? She already had 6 kids, why would she need Kate? Oh maybe it is because we all need Kate.....lol!

I agree that the way she treated the kids was sad and the comment from the reporter was just as bad. But as bad as her behavior was, at least Mady had a say. I hope the didn't receive the 'punishment of severness' though.

grandee4 said...

Don't know if this has been said yet, did not have time to read all responses, but I think this news is great. It't the beginning of the end for the Gosselins. People are going to be seeing and reading about this mother and her 14 kids and start to ask questions about her real intentions. It's gonna call more attention to J/K and people are going to wonder about their intentions also.
J/K, pack your bags it's
GAME OVER!

Tater Tot said...

Johanna said...
Mady: "I want to go home" Kate replies: "No, we can't go home, kids sit down we're interviewing."
Wow. Just wow. These kids are crying out for help in front of us all - they want a normal childhood. Can somebody put an end to the madness?
TLC, please develop a conscience and put an end to their misery. Cancel Jon and Kate. Stop viewing the Gosselin kids as your little cash cows and see them for what they are. Children who are suffering because of a network's and their parent's greed.

1/30/2009 7:24 PM

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Gee, and just two weeks ago Kate said if they don't want to be on camera, they don't have to.

Sure seems to me they didn't want to and had to.

That's right fans, keep those heads buried in the sand.

Marie France said...

Were the interviews on Access Hollywood, CNN, and CBS live? If so, they occurred on a day when school was in session. I think Kate IS pulling Mady and Cara out of school - more than we are actually aware of. Why is the school allowing so many missed days so the twins can work (uncompensated, of course)??

Janine said...

I actually hope irresponsible moron octuplet mom gets a ton of PR and air time. Spread the word! Shout it from the rooftops! She needs to take heat from the public for her lack of responsibility and horrendous judgment. Her case will then cast a negative light on KON by association and enable people to connect the dots that Kate took things into her own hands with the SOLE purpose of producing eight "marketable" children to give her the lifestyle which she feels she deserves.

Molly said...

Wouldn't it be interesting if it comes out that the reason this mom went for fertility treatments and decided not to selectively reduce and keep them all was because she wanted a HOM birth and was inspired by the show (and story of) Jon and Kate plus Eight?

Marie France said...

Molly said...
Wouldn't it be interesting if it comes out that the reason this mom went for fertility treatments and decided not to selectively reduce and keep them all was because she wanted a HOM birth and was inspired by the show (and story of) Jon and Kate plus Eight?

Precisely, Molly! It would be more than interesting - it would be curtains for KON. (I would hope.)

Laura said...

Kate the conceited.

Did anyone notice how Kate grabbed Alexis' shoulder so hard. Let the kid be a kid.

She has totally had work done on her face, it looks more "plumped."

I hope the show ends soon...

NancyH said...

If you watched the interviews did you notice how miserable Mady was? That poor child is screaming out and no one is listening. In the "New House" show she was kicking one of the other girls and it was so obvious that she is frustrated and out of control. This poor child is going to be so screwed up...I hate to think what her teenage years will be like. Kate better open her eyes and be a mother to Mady or she is going to have hell to pay. As Mady said, "I like Daddy better". I like Daddy better too, but that's not saying a whole lot!

Bonnie said...

MaryAnn,
The octuplets are not immigrants.They did not migrate from another country.They were born in the U.S.A

Itcouldhappen said...

Does anyone know the name of the reporter in the CBS clip? I'd like to email her and her bosses and ask them why they think yanking and squeezing a kid's arm is an awesome way to discipline that child.

timetogokon said...

Any mom, whether it be one kid or 10 can always give a new mom advice.

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That would be any mom but Kate Gosselin. I honestly cannot think of one piece of sound advice she could offer any other parent based on what I've seen her do and heard her say.

All is fair said...

Sam,
Perhaps you are right.Maybe one of the kids will grow up and become president.

Susan said...

I didnt think that Kate's grabbing Alexis arm was a big deal. How many of us have grabbed one of our own to get their attention?

Babs said...

I hope Maddy keeps speaking her mind. I dont care how she comes across, she is getting her message out loud and clear. She will embarrass Kate one too many times on national TV and then hopefully Kate will stop bringing her along on her "talk circuit". Also hope the younger ones will pick up the cue and start verbally revolting. Can you imagine, all 8 of them telling the truth on TV....I cant wait.

timetogokon said...

Itcouldhappen said...
Does anyone know the name of the reporter in the CBS clip? I'd like to email her and her bosses and ask them why they think yanking and squeezing a kid's arm is an awesome way to discipline that child.

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I just sent an email saying the same thing. The lady's name is Maggie Rodrdiguez. What an idiot.

IRATEb/cofKate said...

Bringing attention to the fact that this family hasn't revealed the children yet will only make bigger news when it actually happens. Hmmm was that planned?

I just saw a clip on the news that said the mother showed up at the doctor's in her 1st trimester. Something is missing in this story...maybe it's a case of illegal fertility treatments like someone suggested on another thread? Or just someone out to milk the government...who knows?

Missthang said...

Mady's mouth is disrespectful and that is the bottom line. My family is from the south, but I grew up in the Northeast. I wish I would talk to a parent or grand parent like that. Especially infront of others.

I do not think grabbing Alexis's arm was a big deal. If she pulled out a leather strap, um then call CPS.

Bottom line is these kids need some home training!

Addison said...

Did anyone notice the little kid saying "Let's go" or something to that fact that they wanted to leave during the interview?

I think the fact that the kids want to leave or were so squirrly bored out of their minds, shows how they shouldn't have to be "working" so hard at 4 years.

But, then if they weren't there, who would want to talk to Kate. She's nothing without her kids, and she's never gonna realize that.

Mady's attitude was disgussting, but the way Kate flipped her head back laughing at her "I like daddy better" comment reminded me of Cruella Deville.

Jojow said...

I posted this over on the house thread as well...

One more note on the ET video - and the children in general...I do not for one minute blame the children for how they act. They are behaving the way they have been TAUGHT to behave or rather, not behave, by their parents. These kids, even Mady, are not to blame.

Whatever discipline, and I use the word lightly, Jon and Kate use, is inconsistent at best, and punitive at worst. The children hit each other all the time, and their parents do nothing. Why stop? It works for the kids. Mady throws a fit, she gets attention, however negative. It works. In a way, it's all she has.

The children are getting older, yes, and some may claim they should "know better". But a child can not know what he has not been taught. Children can not show respect to each other when they do not see it modeled or when it is not reinforced.

We can not blame these kids, no matter how poorly they behave. They are only doing what they know, and until they are taught better, they can not be held to a standard of "normal" kids who have parents who bother to love and pay attention to them.

T.T said...

Jojow
Great comment!

mollybloom said...

I didn't see the Gosselin self promotions (my lucky day), but the twins should be in school, not on a TV set. I suspect there's a mystery tutor at the palace, but it's an awful message for both the kids and the public that children should be on publicity trips rather than at school.

Paisley said...

The CA grandmother has spoken out and said that all 14 kids were the result of IVF. The mom has been obsessed with having babies since she was a teenager and has "plugged up" fallopian tubes.

I'm still not sure if I believe the IVF thing. I just don't see how the mom could afford to do it at least 7 times. I'm still leaning towards the fertility drugs.

Moose said...

I'm watching abc nighttime news right now and they are doing a segment on the octuplets and they are mentioning kon and are talking about the show. In an interview, Kate of course is talking about how real and non glamourous her life is. It's also funny how Kate mentioned how one should not try to have multiples on purpose. I found that very laughable. It was refreshing to see a segment in which the narrator talked about all the free things they got because of the kids.she even mentioned the tummy tuck LOL. This was actually a segment that seemed to have a negative tone towards kon...I was glad :-)

marypoppins said...

WOW

1) The kids were restless, cara was sad, hannah was trying to please and Maddy did EVERYTHING she could to embarass Kate.
The boys gave little/no trouble. What about school?

Kate and Maddy were both playing up to the cameras.

Maddy's behaviour says alot about how she is trained/raised/allowed to do/exposed/taught I guess.


2)Kate was supposed to be there as the authourity on mutliples/large families and to give advice to the new 8-Mom.
I think she did NOT KNOW that the 8-Mom had 6 kids before.
She looked a bit stunned/embarassed for a minute. Im sure she must have felt silly being there to give advice to a woman who already had 6 kids, all about a year a part.

3) Forget for a minute they were on tv/working, I think that 8 and 4 year olds should be able to sit still for a period of time, especially if they had quiet toys for a distraction. Especially if asked by a parent to do so.

4)I look forward to the tv special All 6+8=14 kids in matching outfits lined up . Professional and non professionals giving obvious advice on raising so many kids.
Celebrities/Companies donating oodles of gifts/year supplies of XYZ.Someone please direct me to the prayer list.

ThreeFarmers said...

Everyday, Jon and Kate make a choice. What is worth more? Their lifestyle or their children's (particularly the twins at this point)well being? And everyday the children lose.

That Access Hollywood video is painful to watch. The twins look miserable. They ALWAYS look miserable when doing any media for the show. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.

Kris said...

I wonder how Kate would react if they ask mom of 14 why make such an irresponsible decision (since there are clearly negative community feedback) and have her turn around and say she was "inspired" by Kate. What a way to send some tension back and forth.

I can just imagine Kate secretly hating her for having more resentment towards her.

I almost feel like starting a petition to not support stupidity by these greedy "mothers" who already have kids and wanting more knowing they are going to get multiples. Anyone else in?

I'm sorry, I feel offended that my taxes (esp. living in CA), are going to those mothers of those litters.

Tess said...

In that CBS Morning Show link/interview - WOW!!!

That clip alone deserves a permanent spot on the sidebar of this blog titled THE REAL KATE GOSSELIN LIVE & IN PERSON. What an embarrassing interview from start to finish for her, man!

You gotta love Mady though, God bless her! Keeping it real as always.

So looking forward to the tell-all book from her someday! LOL.

Nina said...

I just think the Gosselin kids are tired of being on TV. When I was a kids, I got to be a kid. My parents didn't drag me all over the place to make appearances and we weren't recognized in public.

The older girls seems to now understand that the cameras at home are different than the publicity cameras. At home the guys filming are family friends, but when they go to studios/TV programs, it's different.

How sad to see them pimped out this way. Mady seems so very unhappy. It will only get worse as she gets older. Maybe Kate should spend more time alone with her kids and less time in front of cameras for profit. Yes, they all get paid to be on those morning programs. It's a small amount, but it's still more money for Kate's bank account.

alana said...

Unless there is a country somewhere in the world I don't know about where they perform unethical fertility treatments, I doubt someone "implanted the CA woman with eight embryos."
Why go to all the trouble and expense of ripening, fertilizing, and harvesting eggs, then implanting eight resulting embryos? This procedure takes a well-outfitted lab, at least two technicians and an experienced doctor. If the woman is not infertile to begin with (as birthing six kids already would suggest), why not just load her up on Clomid?
BINGO! She'd produce ready-made embryos from her own (fertilized) eggs.
Perhaps there was no doctor involved to begin with and that's why she waited three months to show up at Kaiser. Illegal fertility drug websites are popping up overnight, unfortunately.

On another note, I thought Kate showed her usual lack of good judgment and half a brain by taking the children out of school AGAIN so SHE could do three interviews in New York. WHY drag the kids with her, especially without Yawn? Simply to show the world, after that horrible new house unveiling episode last Monday night - where she did everything possible to escape any interaction with her children - that she was capable of "mothering" ALL BY HERSELF! She'll think twice before she ever does that again. Oh, what a nerd.
I couldn't help enjoying, in the CNN interview, her smeared eyeliner and coming-unglued FAKE eyelash section! She really is a DORK.

beachluvin said...

Marie France said...
Were the interviews on Access Hollywood, CNN, and CBS live? If so, they occurred on a day when school was in session. I think Kate IS pulling Mady and Cara out of school - more than we are actually aware of. Why is the school allowing so many missed days so the twins can work (uncompensated, of course)??

1/30/2009 7:52 PM
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Speaking of schools, it will be interesting to see if the tups end up at the same school as the twins. At 20k per child for tuition, I wonder if Kate is willing to part with that type of money. If they receive financial aid, they are not being honest in the application process as far as income goes.

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Did you see the look on Kate's face, like "I am so ready to go to the spa". Typical Kate making the interview all about her. She probably got a call from her agent to get down to the nearest CBS studio so she and the kids could be interviewed. I think Kate is jumping on every opportunity she can because she knows its all ending soon!

Heidi said...

I agree that the kids should not be subjected to the interviews on the shows. I agree that Kate deserves much of what comes to her. I do feel bad for her about what Mady said about liking Daddy better in front of the whole world. You have to admit it, if one of your kids declared that, it would hurt your heart immensely. Kate needs to step back and be a mother to her children and figure out (we all know already) why her daughters feel that way.

LauraJean said...

I agree with LalaLand, Sue, we're showing our age, but too funny (Carol Burnett) that skit would rank right up there with the Gone with the Wind drapery rod across her shoulders.....and all you youngsters out there who don't know what we're talking about, google it, you don't know what you're missing.

PA-Renee' said...

Sue said...
Can anyone else but me picture this interview as a Carol Burnett show parody? Carol playing Kate, Vicki Lawrence as Mady, Harvey Korman as Collin, and Tim Conway as Joel. Can't you just see Carol Burnett screwing up her face when Mady sasses her? LOL!

OMG I am laughing my butt off thinking of that. Too Funny!

PA-Renee' said...

didnt think that Kate's grabbing Alexis arm was a big deal. How many of us have grabbed one of our own to get their attention?

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But the look on Alexis face is a big deal.......she looked as if she was expecting more to come!

I love my son! said...

You know I think Mady is looked at as the black sheep of the family, the rebel. I know many people were shocked by her behaviour. I don't think we should be.

But, I think what we need to realize is that Mady and Cara clearly feel as if they were never enough for their mother. Kate was never happy with just two beautiful daughters. Kate needed to have just that one more.

And now with that circus act in California, I can only imagine Kate is going to pressure Jon in to adoption. You see nothing Kate Gosselin does is ever unintentional. Period.

Kate can not and will not be out done by the new kid in town. We all saw a pattern with true Hollywood celebrities making adoption look cool and great. So, Kate, being the caring mom (vomit) that she is now hinting toward adoption.

Once again nothing Kate does is unintentional. An adoption for the Gosselin's means more free of everything. The show would continue to see how this wonderful couple with big hearts adopted a child and still managed to take care of 8. This is a plan in the making for her.

I just wonder how the ever exhausted Kate will manage with just one more? Mady and Cara need their mother's love and they need it ASAP.

hotmammatobe said...

Here is a link to an article about the mother of octuplets. It that she had an obessession with having children. All of her children came from in vitro fertilization. She had left over frozen embryos implanted from her previous pregnancy. She used up the remaining embryos and she has none left. No father in the picture, a career student. The woman got paid for doing in vitro fertilization.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/us_world/Octuplets-Grandma-I-Cant-Go-On-Any-Longer.html

konspiracytheory said...

Erica - excellent 'fertility mini-lecture' - thank you.

To those of you who have said that anyone with one child should not be allowed to do fertility treatments - how many children do you have? On average, people in general have more than one - why should people who are suffering from infertility be denied another child?

I have three children - there is a five year gap b/w the first and second b/c for some (still unknown) reason I could not get pg for several years after I had my first. A few months on clomid (no luck) followed by 2 rounds of IUI did the trick (3rd child was a very welcome and happy surprise!).

My point is this - not all fertility treatments are crazy-expensive/HOM-producing events - it just looks like that sometimes b/c of all the publicity KON, etc receive. People with fertility issues shouldn't be 'cut off' after one child due to the medical incompetence/selfishness/greed (take your pick) of a very small minority.

Bob's Your Uncle said...

All is fair said...

Sam,
Perhaps you are right.Maybe one of the kids will grow up and become president.

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Or one of these kids will grow up and be a mass murderer, or will be a drain on society, or just be a regular person....stupid "logic"

Who knows said...

MaryAnn said:

California needs 8 more immigrants to feed,clothe,school and raise.It will cost the state millions of dollars. What the heck?
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Bonnie said: The octuplets are not immigrants. They did not migrant from another country. They were born in the USA.
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I agree with Bonnie that these children are not immigrants because they were born here in the USA but I just dont understand why anyone would want any more kids seeing that they already have 6 to care for. Not only that but this world is not such a wonderful place currently.

KAtiebugandBrayBraysmommy said...

okay Kate was on Niteline so I got to hear her yap and look weird before falling asleep last night( she looks so weird lately) I think this is all so crazy and weird and now I did not sleep well kept having Kate nightmares with her orange fake tan . i am too cranky I think I must have low blood sugar. Some people really need the help of fertility treatmeants so they can have wonderful blessings and some use it to become media darlings and take of giving and loving people who want to help thooses in need

Sue said...

Does anyone have the link for the CNN interview? Thanks.

livinlavidaloca said...

"Were the interviews on Access Hollywood, CNN, and CBS live? If so, they occurred on a day when school was in session. I think Kate IS pulling Mady and Cara out of school - more than we are actually aware of. Why is the school allowing so many missed days so the twins can work (uncompensated, of course)??"

They were all filmed from the same spot in philadelphia. It is very possible that this was filmed after school...as philadelphia is only a little over an hour away.

As for the tuition. It's not 20k per year. It increases as they go up in grades. It is just under 20K for high school.

Navi said...

I'm glad the sordid story of the mother of the octuplets has come out. Having high-order multiples has been romanticized by Jon & Kate + Eight when really it can be an incredible burden on society and reckless and dangerous for the children themselves.

Jon and Kate are incredibly lucky they are able to clothe, feed and care for their kids. Not every family with that many kids is so marketable and will actually get a TV show.

Jon and Kate set a dangerous example and I wouldn't be surprised if Nadya was 'inspired' by the show. I'm not blaming the show completely, the women is obviously an idiot (6 kids at home already, no job, living with her parents and no spouse) but having role models like Jon and Kate doesn't help. I think we will see a backlash against the show and people will start questioning the ethics of having high order multiples.

livinla said...

As far as fertility treatments go, I think people should be able to have as many as they can afford.

I think the real limit should be on HOW many are implanted in IVF. AND not allowing women to get pregnant with hyperstimulated(sp?) ovaries.

samcarter said...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets

According to this article the mom, Nadya Suleman, has been "obsessed" with having kids since she was a teenager, didn't want to get married, so went with fertility treatments. *eyeroll*

The grandmother has even stated that while she's taking care of the mom's other six kids while the mom is in the hospital, when the mom and babies come home, she's out of there. I guess her enabling has gone too far. Finally.

I just think this is sick. Why would anybody CHOOSE to be a single mother to that many kids? It's not like she had an "oops" pregnancy; she used embryos from a previous fertility treatment to get pregnant.

Gads. Talk about pulling a Gosselin. "Wow, I have six wonderful kids...it's NOT ENOUGH! More! More, I say!"

Kim said...

Alexis was pulling Collin back and forth and back and forth and whining in the process. I dont see anything wrong with what Kate did when she grabbed Alexis by her arm to stop her. Haven't we all grabbed our kids to try and get them to stop in a situation when we dont have the time to explain?

wramblinwreck said...

Thanks for posting that article, HMToBe. The octuplets' grandmother is quoted as saying she has told her daughter that she's out of there when she comes home from the hospital, she's had enough. She also says she's objected to her daughter's obsession with babies all along but couldn't stop her. In an earlier interview, the grandfather said they had a "huge house" somewhere where the daughter would go after leaving the hospital where she couldn't be found. So grandma says she's done with the whole business, grandpa's talking about another house somewhere. How to make sense of any of this??

Also, someone who cared for the woman's 6 children is quoted in the article that one of the kids is autistic. So this woman has 6 children, ages 2-7, one of whom is autistic, and now she has 8 newborns. There's no way all of these children can receive the care they need when there's no father involved, the grandmother says she can't do anymore, and the grandfather is returning to Iraq working as a contractor to provide some income. This is a trainwreck and the victims are those poor kids.

cheryl said...

Recouping from the ice storm-
I'm with Sue: anyway to access these interviews or a short recap??
Unable to bring up. Know I'm missing a duzzy!!

ThreeFarmers said...

It must be so confusing for those children. When they are in front of cameras at home, they are expected to be rambunctious and running around. A bunch of well-behaved children sitting around playing quietly doesn't make an entertaining show. But when they get in front of the cameras for an interview, they are expected to sit quietly.

The kids are being sent completely contrasting messages.

wramblinwreck said...

"They were all filmed from the same spot in philadelphia. It is very possible that this was filmed after school..."

Yes, they were in a Philadelphia TV studio for these interviews, but the CBS and CNN interviews were morning shows and they were live, so they were done during school hours. The Access Hollywood interview was also done around the same time, since they were in the same studio wearing the same clothes. It's clear they spent the day doing one interview after another: no wonder the kids were tired and bored.

Lisaloo said...

Not to defend the comments of the lady interviewing Kate, but geez what else would you say to someone that lashes out at their child on live national tv in the middle of an "interview"? Maybe thats why I am a sahm and not on TV. The interviews were all very uncomfortable and such an embarassment, but hey whatever it takes to make a buck these days right Kate?

It is very clear that these children are not happy and that is heart-breaking. What is worse is that now we have people trying to duplicate the KON gravy train.

One thing we all can do is pray for these kiddos.

Maybe Kate's next book will be a book on how to overstimulate ovaries, have mulitple multiples, beg for privacy, ask her for advice on how to exploit children and then cash in for a life of luxary!

Emma's Mom said...

HA HA HA HA
I laughed through both interviews...... Mady's truth shall set her free!!! You reap what you sow and KON have sowed a load of crap.

chesterctymom said...

I think Katie may have finally found her soul mate...her BF for life! The Calif mom was obsessed with having a large family since she was a child (just like Katie)...she already had children via fertility treatments but 'wanted just one more' (just like Katie)...and doesn't have a husband (just like...oh wait, I forgot about Jon). Oh well, 2 out of 3!

Amy said...

Last night I was watching 3-4 different news commentary shows about the Octuplets. In at least 2 shows they mentioned how large families on TV have lots and lots of help in the form of nannies, housecleaners, etc. Also they are given free stuff. Hmmm, could be they are starting to look at the Gosselins?

Christine said...

Mady is the gift that keeps on giving.

Lisa said...

Kate was interviewed on NIGHTLINE last night & in the segment, they certainly suggested that on their show, J&Kplus8, with all of the freebies and trips - it may be glamorizing the idea of having HOM. Kate said to that, "If you watch our show, we are definitely not glamorizing it." With this story about the octuplets and the controversy, perhaps the media at large is beginning to see the light with KON?

berksmom said...

Call it science, call it a medical breakthrough, call it in-vitro, call it "fertility treatments," call it "Thank-God-I'm-Alive-In-The-21st-Century-and-I-Have-Money," call it whatever it really is, but please don't call this "God's Plan" because it's not.

Well said!

C said...

Isn't it funny how the gross, icky boys were the most well-behaved (well if you can call it that) in these interviews?

Those Queenies-in-training are going to be in need of serious therapy when they grow up with QueenBitch Kate Gosselin as their role model.

Almost 5 year olds should act ALOT better in public. When their mother tells them to be quiet and keep their hands to themselves they should respect that. I guess Kate gets what she gives in regards to respect from her children.

And Mady's (and Hannah's behavior - did you see how she was acting towards Cara?) behavior - ouch! Bad bad bad.

BPalmer said...

This single woman is over-the-top irresponsible!

Somehow I am reminded of a conversation I had years ago. A friend told me that as a child, her grandparents would not allow her to speak to the Catholic families in the neighborhood. Her grandfather was of the opinion that these families put a disproportionate burden on taxpayers because of their large families using the public school systems. She went on to explain how these large families, of 5 or so children, were usually untidy and undisciplined. As a Catholic, I was embarrassed and shocked. We laughed together, at how the grandfather would disapprove of our friendship, because I was a Catholic.

Although I am still shocked by the grandfather’s opinion, he had no idea of the possibilities.

MayDay said...

It is so obvious that Kate has not taught or trained her children to act socially in public. You can see she enjoys when they are acting up because it just confirms to millions of people how hard her job is. If those children were taught how to properly act, then it would look like having all those kids is a piece of cake. And that is not the image Kate is setting forth. She know exactly what she is doing. It is too bad the children are the ones the suffer.

stop the circus said...

Susan said...
I didnt think that Kate's grabbing Alexis arm was a big deal. How many of us have grabbed one of our own to get their attention?
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Even when you're doing it to tell that child to keep THEIR hands to themselves? (Just an observation, I don't think it was right at all)

SaveTheSheeples said...

Is it me, or does it seem like one side of Kate's face is "frozen" when she talks?

It was really evident on the CBS interview in the close up shots.

SaveTheSheeples said...

Regarding Mady's behavior in the AH interview - I think it was inappropriate, too, but we have to remember that the circus lifestyle that has been imposed on these kids are reaching the breaking point, and the other kids will soon act out as Mady is.

Because of her "work" (gag), Kate is probably not around much and Mady is showing resentment. And based on her comments that the tups take her things and lie, etc - I think they may get her in trouble on purpose because Mady has been the "troublemaker" for so long.

I really feel bad for Mady. Her behavior CAN be corrected, but it's apparent J&K show no real interest in putting effort into it.

I think she is acting out because she is not getting the proper care and attention she needs from her parents.

KellyAnna said...

I saw the Access Hollywood interview when it first came on, and I was struck by how "out of it" Kate seems. She seems unfazed by the kids, like she's just waiting for their "handler" to come take them away for her. I truly feel sorry for this entire family, Kate included. I think she needs some serious help.

Anna Lou said...

I don't believe the new family will become the new Gosselin TV show. Kate's personality is the draw that kept TLC coming back for more. We all have learned that TLC doesn't care what viewers think about the subjects they choose to make into shows, and Kate is the polarizing personality that few other larger-than-life families has. There are very few people who can keep the viewers coming back for more, love her or hate her, she is the draw. Just for the record, I don't think her show is anywhere near the end of existence. I also think her "corporation" and "marketable" family will go on and on. I hate to think that way, but I do. I love those wonderful little children and feel so sad for what their life is now and will be for years to come.

stop the circus said...

Just saw a clip of the grandpa, and he said that he has the means to care for all the kids, that the little house is just a playhouse for the kids...huh???

A Reader said...

Bonnie said:

"The octuplets are not immigrants.They did not migrate from another country.They were born in the U.S.A"

Thank you for mentioning that, Bonnie. We're all immigrants or descendants of immigrants, unless we're Native Americans. Besides, what does the provenance of the octuplets matter? They're here--to stay, we hope.

By the way, these eight new citizens are not a "litter," they're human beings!
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Tess said:

"So looking forward to the tell-all book from her [Mady] someday! LOL."

I'm not. I hope relational matters improve for her and her family, and that the girl never has the occasion to write such a book.

cathy crouse said...

After watching all of these LIVE interviews online this morning , where the footage can't be edited ,i am beginning not to hate Maddy , She is letting people know that she is not happy with her life , referring to her mother being her BOSS and i like daddy better .... Kate doesn't have control of her kids , she doesn't know how to make them listen and behave , grabbing them by the arm and telling them to behave on live tv is out of this world . See how she falls apart when there are none of the countless people around to pick up the pieces like when they are filming in their house. She makes it seem as if she does this all alone , yeah right...

Seeing is Believing said...

The You Tube link shows a better quality for me than direct from
Serena's links. Sorry Serena...
One of the previous posters posted the link, I typed in www.youtube.com and then searched by Gosselins on cbs.. and also Gosselins on accesshollywood. Hope it works for all who wish to view, Mady is priceless but it sad to see how she quite obviously does not want to be there. So out goes Kate's theory, they are only filmed when they want to be, that's bull.... None of those kids want to be there being interviewed, anyone who says otherwise is just clueless.

my9cats said...

Lisa said...
Kate was interviewed on NIGHTLINE last night & in the segment, they certainly suggested that on their show, J&Kplus8, with all of the freebies and trips - it may be glamorizing the idea of having HOM. Kate said to that, "If you watch our show, we are definitely not glamorizing it." With this story about the octuplets and the controversy, perhaps the media at large is beginning to see the light with KON?

1/31/2009 9:32 AM

Jeeez....the lies just keep rolling out. I'm not even going to list the "glamour" as we already know what it is. This woman is
sooooo delusional. Kate, put a sock in it. You impress no-one but your sheeple.Baa Baa Baa.....

Izzie said...

Don't worry, Mady. I like Jon better too.

Kenzie said...

Kate said to that, "If you watch our show, we are definitely not glamorizing it.

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ok Kate, then what would you call the free vacations to Disney, Utah, NC,san diego, Hawaii, the numerous day trips to every amusement park and zoo imaginable, your 1.3 million dollar mansion, your kids impecable brnad name clothing, your and Jon's new looks, and all of the free toys and food you could imagine. FOr this woman to think her family's situation is not glamorizing having HOM's is actually laughable to me. Get a grip kate...seriously.

Susan said...

stop the circus,

I see your point(kind of) but what would you have done differently?

Bonnie said...

A Reader,

Thank you for your response to my comment about the immigrant issue. Indeed we are all immigrant descendants unless we are Native Americans. Did someone call these children a litter? (Hummm) These are innocent human beings. I must say that IMO I feel that the mother of these children is totally irresponsible and selfish.Some people have children to satisfy their own needs without any regard of the childrens future.

Lexie said...

(and Hannah's behavior - did you see how she was acting towards Cara?) behavior - ouch! Bad bad bad.
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I did notice that. I also noticed that Cara was the one who got yelled at for it.

Old School said...

Stop the circus of course it was okay for Kate to grab Alexis and tell her hands to yourself. Kids and parents are not equal and dont have the same rules/rights. That is why we are called parents. We have a job to do. Once I said to my Mom "Well you and Dad get to stay up late why cant I "Because we are the adults now get to bed"
Dont misunderstand me. Child abuse is TOTALLY unacceptable but what Kate did does not qualify as child abuse.

Miss Brown Betti said...

Will we all think that it is just lovley when Mady talks back to her teacher,boss or someone else in authority just because that is how she feels?

ThreeFarmers said...

Will we all think that it is just lovley when Mady talks back to her teacher,boss or someone else in authority just because that is how she feels?

Of course it's terrible that Mady behaves the way she does at times. However, he behavior is the direct result of what she is forced to do and the methods her parents use to get her to participate in the show. Mady is forced to have her life on display. As much as Jon and Kate say that they don't make the children do the show, it is obvious that they do when we see footage like we have here.

Mady is a frustrated little girl who hasn't been taught to deal with her resentment. Her resentment will continue to worsen until her situation changes and there's no sign of that happening.

I don't blame her for being resentful. I would be resentful, too if I were forced to play second fiddle to a bunch of 4-year-olds AND have so much of my privacy violated just so my parents can live some outrageous lifestyle.

Kate and Jon have made some horrible comments about Mady to the camera and Mady knows it. Maybe, that explains why she was so quick to rattle off all the negatives about having the tups around.

It's simply untrue that parents should be treated with respect simply because they gave birth. That works in theory, but not in reality. Parents are first responsible for raising their children in a safe and protected environment. Jon and Kate haven't kept up their end of the deal and Mady is lashing out accordingly.

It is hard to watch, but J&K have made that child who she is.

Sue said...

Kate said to that, "If you watch our show, we are definitely not glamorizing it."

What I thought Kate meant by that was they were not glamorizing their fights or when the kids act up. They don't try to sugar coat it when the kids scream, hit, and kick each other. They show it all.

I think that from the interviews it is painfully obvious that Kate is in WAAAY over her head. Everything about her manner was
clipped and forced. IMHO she is very close to losing her grip on her emotions. She gives the impression that she has just lost hope of ever having anay control over her children.

?WHY? said...

Why bring the kids in the first place?

The topic was Kate giving advice to another mom with lots of multiples, so why make the kids sit in on the interview?

marypoppins said...

14 kids under the age of 7. WOW!
I hope the mom has a very good plan and support system to help her.


Im sure that are many families of mutiples where each child is not 100 % healthy. We do not see them on TLC.
I saw a programme long ago about a family with HOM where one child was blind, the other will need 24 hr care the rest of his life, the others had some other aliment etc.

KatesAbeeyotch said...

After watching both interviews I realized Mady is gonna be such a awesome teenager.

?WHY? said...

Susan said,
I didnt think that Kate's grabbing Alexis arm was a big deal. How many of us have grabbed one of our own to get their attention?
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Reeally?! [lol]

National television and Mady acts up. So out of pure frustration Queen Kate reaches over and yanks another kids arm! Kate wanted to yank Mady but Mady would have called her out.

Mady Rocks!

Yeppers said...

Will we all think that it is just lovley when Mady talks back to her teacher,boss or someone else in authority just because that is how she feels?

I don't, Miss Brown Betty. Will Mady's teacher talk trash about her to a worldwide viewing audience? Will Mady's teacher constantly marginalize and dismiss her feelings? Call her names and mock her? Exploit her and steal away the privacy and dignity that should be protected as part of her childhood?

Because if so, then hell yeah! I'll think it's just peachy if Mady defends herself like she does now with her so-called "mother".

Why you think Mady is obligated to show any respect to Kate is beyond me.

GrammyPie said...

Many of us are applauding Mady's deplorable behavior in those television interviews. I too would like to see Kate embarrassed, if possible, by Mady's behavior, but I think we need to look at the bigger picture. Mady is the one going to be hurt by her behavior. One of the television people commented, "Mady has quite a mouth and knows how to use it too." Mady already has so much bad press on the internet, why give people more. That poor child will be traumatized if and when she ever reads it all. She is a child, and while wise for her years, she cannot possibly grasp the possible ramifications of her behavior. She probably knows she faces the wrath of her mother, and severeness of punishment, but does not realize the way the public views her. We here at GWoP understand her, but others will not.

Marie said...

Please let's stop using the phrase "implanted embryos." Embryos aren't implanted. They are transferred into the uterus and they float around until they land. No one "implants" (i.e. develops connecting blood supplies into the uterine wall)anything. It happens on it's own or it doesn't.

And if this crazy women did IVF or any injectables, she'd better be loaded. Because with the best of insurance, and in only a few states is it even offered for infertility, you get 4 total shots at IVF. And if a live birth results, you only get one more. Period. Regardless of whether or not it's your firt try and a success.

Injectables cost lots of money. Like $500 per cycle. A cycle of IVf can top $50,000 with labs and ultrasounds. And they aren't something you fool around with in your bathroom lab. Ovarian hyperstimulation can kill you.

Cathy said...

"One of the television people commented, "Mady has quite a mouth and knows how to use it too." Mady already has so much bad press on the internet, why give people more. That poor child will be traumatized if and when she ever reads it all."

>>>>>> I think Mady would have a far worse prognosis if she weren't able to fight back the way she does. I doubt she'll be traumatized in the future by reading any bad press from her childhood. She'll probably put as much distance between her childhood and her adulthood as possible and not give a damn about people who think she behaved so horribly. She'll always know the truth inside herself. If anything, she'll be more bothered by reading the words of sheeple fawning all over her deplorable mother.

timetogokon said...

One of the television people commented, "Mady has quite a mouth and knows how to use it too."

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I heard that also and thought it was totally inappropriate.
I've already sent a complaint about that comment (anybody know the name behind the voice?) and also the segment in general.

Tangerine Tanya said...

?WHY?

Maybe you are right about Kate taking her frustration out on Alexis because Kate was steamed at Mady but from what I saw was that Alexis was taunting Collin and yelling at the same time.

Old School said...

ThreeFarmers you have some very good points. I agree with you on most everything.However remember when it was the twins birthday and Mady stormed in the kitchen and kicked the balloons and stormed on through? I don't think that had anything to do with her re-acting to the cameras. Maybe she is just a high spirited little girl who needs to be taught in the correct manner how to handle her emotions. We all know that J/K are failing greatly in that area.

Serena said...

However remember when it was the twins birthday and Mady stormed in the kitchen and kicked the balloons and stormed on through? I don't think that had anything to do with her re-acting to the cameras.

Oh I do. I think the LAST thing Mady wanted on her birthday was just another day of filming.

4thekids said...

If I can be allowed to go off topic for a sec,

What doctor on this God-forsaken Earth would help a single woman with six children have another child through ANY type of procedure that has a risk of HOM?

People who allow themselves to be in this position don't deserve a single dime that is thrown in their way by this ridiculous media circus.

I'd love to see a tv show featuring a mom who works 2 jobs because her husband just got laid off, and even though they live in a modest home, one clunker car, and only have two children, they scarcely have enough money to feed their family of four. Oh, wait, that isn't interesting because that is what EVERYONE is going through.

Now please don't think I'm hating on people who use fertility treatments -- I'm totally an advocate, TO A DEGREE. Doctors who help women conceive while they have severely stimulated ovaries, or implant a high number of embryos, make me sick. Enough with the overpopulation. Either accept the fact that you can't have kids the natural way and adopt, or do small bouts of fertility treatments. I don't care how expensive it is to do multiple rounds of IVF: we shouldn't have women popping out HOMs because they know it ensures them publicity and monetary help.

End rant :-)

AnneMarie said...

According to the grandmother ALL of the previous 6 children are IVF, as the mom's tubes are blocked. SO that's SEVEN IVF treatments, which the mom says SHE was paid for. HUH? Ya, I don't get that either.

SuzanneDeAz said...

Actually this would be her 6th not her 7th being the last one brought forth twins.

I doubt if Oprah or anyone who has power to give her a show will do so. What does she have to offer in a show? Is she a model mother bringing in kids that she can not support? I do not think Oprah will put her stamp of approval on this woman even though she gave birth to 8 kids.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Will we all think that it is just lovley when Mady talks back to her teacher,boss or someone else in authority just because that is how she feels?

My guess? Is that school is the only place Mady feels "protected" and away from the insanity that is her home life.

HiThere said...

She is a grifter and deserves not one red cent-from anyone.

AnneMarie said...

LOL! You're right! I forgot one set was twins.

timetogokon said...

However remember when it was the twins birthday and Mady stormed in the kitchen and kicked the balloons and stormed on through? I don't think that had anything to do with her re-acting to the cameras.

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I remember this episode vividly. I remember thinking to myself : Why doesn't Kate or Jon ask Mady why she's so upset ? Why are they just allowing her to "have some down time" watching tv instead of trying to figure out what made their daughter so very upset on her birthday ?

She was already having a bad day probably because of the cameras, and then she has to come home to more cameras.
How many times have we seen Mady put her hand in front of the camera lens ? What about Mady putting the now infamous sign on her study room door? She has been practically begging for the cameras to stop filming her - why shouldn't she be frustrated and angry that her own parents don't listen to her ?

Sick of it all said...

The day that we as a society wise up and give none of the HOM parents a dime but expect them to accept the responsibility for the children they have created is about the same time that we'll see a lot fewer of them being produced. Right now most of the parents of quads and up are appealing to their churches, communities, and general public through one method or another to help bail them out. I think the only bail out we should give them it to help both parents find employment. Having been through fertility treatment and making sure that we would never have more than twins, I know it can be done. You might have to pay for an extra month of treatment or a few extra ultrasounds, but isn't that better than having a litter and then going around begging?

Janet said...

Timetogokon:

The voice on the Access Hollywood piece is Billy Bush, who works for AH. Hope that helps.

Old School said...

timetogokon ....You are right.Kate nor Jon even bothered to ask Mady what was wrong on the birthday episode.Kate just brushed it off and allowed Mady to go to J/K room and watch T.V.That is where Joel should have been when he was sick.
Anyway....I think that it was not the cameras that day that promted a bad mood.When she got off the bus she was already p****d. She threw her backpack down and stormed in.

Serena said...

Anyway....I think that it was not the cameras that day that promted a bad mood.When she got off the bus she was already p****d. She threw her backpack down and stormed in.

And the only reason we saw her getting off the bus and slamming her backpack down on the driveway was because the cameras were there waiting to film her getting off the bus. She could see the crew waiting for her out in front of her house before she even got off the bus.

stop the circus said...

Susan said...
stop the circus,

I see your point(kind of) but what would you have done differently?
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It's a hard call, because I'm sure they've never been taught, except for now in school, to use inside voices, and behavior, and what another poster said makes sense, they don't know the difference between how to act just because there is a camera there, but I would think getting up and looking them in the eyes for one, while explaining to them how to behave, down on their level.

Hambone said...

She must've been reading GWoP all week and that's why she can't focus and has her knickers in a knot.

timetogokon said...

Janet:
Billy Bush - yes! His name escaped me. Thank you.


OldSchool:
Exactly. What I meant to say was that Mady maybe got some teasing at school or on the bus which put her in a bad mood, then to come home and see the cameras there just made her bad mood worse( like you said Serena). Mady was so very angry in that scene - it wasn't her just "being Mady" as per Kate's own words.

And, you are right, I completely forgot that episode was also Joelgate.

alana said...

?Why? said:

Why bring the kids in the first place?

IMO, the "New House" episode last Monday night was such a total SHAM they had to do some damage control. I really thought KON was finished with trying to fix what they'd f#@%&d up now that they were safely in the KONpound. I guess not...

Possibly because the TLC suits and PR people saw how GWoP and other non-loving KON blogs exploded as a result of that episode, they decided it was crucial to do something, anything in an attempt to pull the reins in on their #1 money-maker show.

It was never so clear to all of us(sheeple included)that Kate would go to the ends of the earth in order to avoid interracting with and loving her kids; why, Clorox and cleaning was preferable to mothering her children. It was BLATANTLY CLEAR Kate didn't want to be alone with them - JOOOOOOONNNN!

I'd bet my life Yawn and some "helpers" were just off-stage ready to take over the second the cameras stopped rolling.

But first, show everyone how Kate is so capable of caring for her children ALL BY HERSELF and loving every minute of it!
Oh well...

And this is why it was necessary she "drag the kids to NY with her again."

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