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Please use this thread for discussion about the Gosselins that doesn't have a better thread. Thanks.

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Min said...

I would like to know if anyone is aware of local reaction to the Gosselin's new house. I can't imagine it'd go over well with the locals...

Wendy Bird said...

I just posted this under in recap comments before realizing that there was a new Free Discussion thread. It is in response to the link that was provided for the ABC story about the mother of the new octuplets born in CA. This is probably a more appropriate place to make the comment, so I will delete it from the other thread.

*Interesting information about the mother of the new octuplets.

The article states that fertility drugs are available on the internet. A while back I wrote a post that didn't go through wondering if Kate has possibly obtained fertility drugs over the internet to conceive the sextuplets. This does not seem at all inconceivable to me, especially when she has been quoted as saying to Jon after learning she was pregnant with seven (one apparently didn't continue to develop) "What have we done?"

With the information about fertility drugs being available on the internet having been substantiated by the ABC article, I hope that this post goes through.

Of course, I am speculating, but I have wondered this all along.

emptynester said...

Kate and the kids were on Access Hollywood last night. The kids look miserable ... maybe they don't want to do the family job anymore??? http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

Tangerine Tanya said...

In the beginning Jon and Kate Gosselin were a young couple who had a set of twins and then had sextuplets.The community and other bleeding hearts heard of this young couple and their hearts went out to them. They basically felt that the Gosselins were going through a hardship and wanted to donate either money or material items that would make life more comfortable for the the G family. Had the public know that Jon and Kate Gosselin would benefit greatly from exploiting their 8 young children through a televison program they may have had a different reaction. It started off with a WORKING dad and a SAH mom with a set of twins and 6 babies.We saw the hard work,the love and the never ending task of dealing with 8 small children. Once Jon and Kate reached fame per the network their whole attitude started to change. Kate's voice changed from this young girlish voice in love with her husband and her young children to a deeper matronly voice who came across as deserving dictator.Jon was once a working dad who said that he would never want to be at home all day. Once the money started rolling in he suddenly wanted to be at home and become a a full time mom/dad.Yes I did say mom. Then came then free clothes,trips and medical procedures. Oh the public thought that by donating paper towels,toys and other items that would
make life easier for this poor struggling family.Never did the public think that this family would end up being greedy and exploit their 8 young children for yet more money to support their extravagant lifestyle.If Kate had been a gracious and humble woman perhaps the public would see her in a different light. She has become so self-centered and vein beyond belief that it drive most of us nuts. Granted that most of us believe that Jon is a hands on dad he still has many of us shaking our heads in disbelief at the way he allows his wife to talk to him as if he were a child. I myself dont't respect him at all for allowing Kate to degrade him the way that she does and for not supporting his family as the man of the house the old fashioned way....BY WORKING!!!....Most of us think that the children are cute but yet at the same time we see disturbing behavioral issues.It's no wonder because Kate is to busy pretending to be O.C.D and gallivating here and there to stop and REALLY be a parent. Jon and Kate also believe that all that they have comes from a blessing from God. They are not realists. It is what it is. It really is a sad situation. Those 8 children will hopefully grow up and become adults. This life is not always a long life and sometimes it is a short life. The time is NOW. Embrace them NOW. All that you "THINK" matters Jon and Kate really doesn't. Put your camera down Kate and the cameras of the production crew and STOP and embrace those children for the time is NOW!

REAAAALLLLYYY???? said...

In one the other threads, people were citing the "judge not, lest ye be judged." While surfing the 'net tonight on another subject, I came across this clarification on the Scripture and thought I'd share the link:

http://www.av1611.org/crock/judbynum.html .

WendyBird - I hadn't thought about the fertility drugs online, but wow ... you may be right. The whole fertility treatment thing really has me bothered. I have wondered how a fertility specialist would treat someone who was so young and only married a few months. Then the entire story about being pregnant w/ the sextuplets is just mind-boggling. I know there's been lots of other discussion and lots of speculation, but wanted to add that I'm just another one who's not buying their story completely...

Heidi said...

Did anyone else see Kate and the kids on Access Hollywood last night?

http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

She talks about her advice that she would give to the mother of the octuplets but also is shows her in her motherly form.

WhyDoThat? said...

I just have a question for you guys. It literally took my breath away to hear KON discussing the "filth" in the new house. I believe this was so much more than scripted for the camera. This was a deliberate attack against the former owners. Was that doctor, by any chance, her first OB that refused to do another round of fertility treatments after the twins?? Just wondering, because that whole diatribe was pure evil.

Moons in Leo said...

I just sent a comment to "Access Hollywood" begging them to stop showing J&K as being capable of giving anyone parenting advice.

I tried to explain that having a litter does not mean one knows anything about parenting as evidenced by the Gosselins.

flgirl said...

Re: The Access Hollywood video ~ OMG, Mady! Does Kate not understand what this obviously very unhappy child is going to be like in a few years? Why doesn't she let Mady opt out of participating? It's obvious she doesn't want to be there! That poor little girl.

Dee said...

It looks like they did an interview with CBS morning news at the same time as the Access Hollywood one since they are dressed the same and in the same positions...I almost couldn't pick out Hannah. They've all grown and she looks a little slimmer in the face. Anyway, Maddie's in trouble...she said she likes Daddy better! Maybe the unedited video will be up later today on CBSnews.com/video/earlyshow.

etownmomof1 said...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20255815,00.html

Only on People.com Kate Gosselin Offers Parenting Tips to New Mom of Octuplets

bertie22 said...

"WendyBird - I hadn't thought about the fertility drugs online, but wow ... you may be right. The whole fertility treatment thing really has me bothered. I have wondered how a fertility specialist would treat someone who was so young and only married a few months. Then the entire story about being pregnant w/ the sextuplets is just mind-boggling. I know there's been lots of other discussion and lots of speculation, but wanted to add that I'm just another one who's not buying their story completely..."



I have always wondered why no one made te connection (or seemed to) that Kate worked as a labour and delivery nurse. I've always had a theory that Kate either took fertility drugs from her workplace, or pressured a doctor she worked with to give them to her, knowing she didn't need them. Of course, it is total speculation, but I am dying for this magazine article to come out because maybe some family members or friends will confirm the story for us.
I must say, I get the feeling this is the beginning of the end for Kon. I wonder if Kate will fade into obscurity with dignity or really dig in her claws and hold on for dear life? And even more interesting, will Jon and Kate stay together once no one cares? I can picture Jon wanting to reclaim his cojones once and for all by getting himself a divorce and a little Ms. New Boobs.

leesehere said...

Questions.
1. did they throw away all of the TLC crew who worked on their show for 4 years.
2. where is the mystery woman ...watched the show again on u tube..help

Karen said...

Thank you for posting the link to the Access Hollywood video --http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

But WOW! After watching that video, you really know that Kate is going to have a LOT of trouble dealing with those kids! Why? Because she taught them to behave like that. Mady is only saying her siblings are "loud, obnoxious" because KATE used those words to describe her kids on National television. If Kate was a more gentle mother and taught her children well, you would never see the kids misbehave like they did in that video. And it's not all either, Hannah is watching all of this. She's going to learn from Mady AND Kate on how to act.

This is just a sinking boat from now on (even when the show ends, these kids will not have a happy home if their mother is in the room).

Poor Kid! said...

First thought after seeing the Access Hollywood video. Mady was miserable. Kate should have excused this poor kid from another intrusion in her life. When Mady starts listing reasons why she doesn't 'like the tups - its just sad. Then finally Kate cuts her off. This poor kid should not have been filmed obviously she didn't want to be filmed....I knew it why didn't her mom or the producers know it?!

Karen said...

Now that we know the octuplets' mother has 6 children from before, I bet TLC is SPRINTING to their house to beg for a reality show. I mean, they have 2 sets of twins plus octuplets! Who else stands higher on the multiples count than they do?

*rolls eyes*

Mikemom said...

WOW - I just watched the video from Access Hollywood. Mady is a little girl waiting to explode. It appears she has a lot of anger, I hope she continues to voice her opinion and someday, somehow, somewhere will really listen to her.

zoey said...

Oh poor Mady, she was MISERABLE on the access hollywood show i love her!
she sure does speak her mind.

Bicoastal said...

TLC's-new-star-in-the-making --- Octuplet Mystery-Mom --- is drawing huge media attention and enormous public outrage here in CA.

Taxpayers are expressing concern that they may have to foot the bill for the newborns' healthcare.

Ethicists are questioning why a fertility doctor would treat a woman with six children.

Pro-lifers are hailing her as their new Messiah.

Racists are making slurs about her unknown ethnicity.

Some of Mystery-Mom's neighbors are already charging for media interviews.

There seems to be a mix-up regarding the sperm donor. The LA Times quoted Mystery-Mom's mother -- Angela Suleman -- as saying "the father" is returning to Iraq to help support the family. Now it appears Mrs. Suleman was referring to her husband "Ed" (the octuplets' grandfather), not the unknown --- dare I say it -- "tups" father[s].

It is still unknown how these babies were conceived; one newspaper is reporting the woman was implanted with the embryos.

There are already comments posted that Mystery-Mom was motivated by the desire to have her own TV show.

And Kaiser is reporting, via the LA Times, that the new family is receiving many "sealed envelopes."

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-octuplets30-2009jan30,0,6314319.story

zoey said...

I love when Mady says to kate "would you stop being my boss already" and then tells Kate she should "spank" alexis
kate better watch out for that little madelyn. She is going to tell all the family secrets in a book im sure.

AnneMarie said...

The woman in CA with the octuplets (fertility treatments) ALREADY has SIX at home. She doesn't need advice from Kate. I THINK they are six under the age of 9, one pair are twins.

DOn't even get me started on HER story, but for now, at least she wants privacy and isn't gobbling up donations. Yet.

zoey said...

i would love to see the unaired footage of that access holllywood video.

Mady's fan said...

I saw the ACCESS HOLLYWOOD piece while walking thru our living room while tv was on. I stopped dead in my tracks when I heard Mady say she didn't "like" her little brothers and sisters (something to that effect)..the look on Kate's face reminded me of 'Mommie Dearest' at Christina! Mady was clearly 'ruining' her aura of wanting to present themselves as the 'perfect' family. When Mady told her to stop being a boss I know it was disrespectful ...it is clear that girl has had enough of this 'reality tv' /sextuplent foolishness and wants to have some iota of a 'normal life'. If not that, she is probably just sick & tired of her mom's rudeness. I've been watching reruns of the show as I don't watch it regularly .....I live in Lancaster County near the Strasburg Railroad and SIGHT AND SOUND so those shows interested me. It was very telling in that none of the kids wanted to sit with their mom! (even the little ones...I don't know about you all but kids that young do tend to be clingy to their moms and I think they would've been fighting moreso over who gets to sit next to her on the train! When Kate asked 'why doesn't anyone want to sit with me ?" and Jon said "cuz you're a grouch" it was awesome!
BTW, this new scenerio w/the woman having 8 babies when she already had 6...WEIRD! There is more to this than the media has unravelled.

Karen said...

I bet Kate is shaking mad that the new mother of 14 has stolen her thunder.

Poor Katie.

BOTOX BABY! said...

I know I'm being catty but I just watched the CBS interview and here goes.....Kates face does not move! She has botoxed her face to the point that her forehead is completely frozen. At one point a brow lifts alittle but other than that her face is totally expressionless. OMG!

Natalie said...

I hope we don't find out that this mystery mom of oct's wasn't a big fan of the J&K show. Maybe she thought she could do a Kate Gosselin?!

Very Scary

Fed Up Taxpayer said...

The era of greed and excess is spilling into the fertility arena. The doctor who did the fertility treatment for the woman who just had the 8 babies should have his medical license revoked.

Staci said...

Do you think Kate is nervous? That she may be replaced by Mom and Grandma Plus 14?

Found a site with a neat little voting meter asking if you think Jon and Kate are exploiting their kids:

http://www.starsareblind.com/2009/01/27/jon-kate-gosselins-new-house/

In the grand scheme of "stuff that matters" I am sure it won't mean a thing, but it is still fun to vote, none the less. :-)

Its A Good Thing said...

I was curios about PCOS so I decided to look it up and it is possible to have a baby without fertility (infertility?) treatments. So that being said why did a doctor allow Kate to have treatments? Isn't there a guide line or something that says you have to try and get pregnant on your own for a certain length of time? With the timing of Kates marriage and her treatments they couldn't have tried for more than a couple of months right? Also aren't treatments expensive? How could a supposedly poor family afford all the treatments she had? Another thing I don't get about the fertility treatments: Wouldn't a doctor cancel that months cycle when she was hospitalized for over stimulated ovaries? Because the ovaries would be over stimulated before the babies were conceived right?

I don't know much about fertility treatments but something just seems odd about it. For one thing Kate and Jon were REALLY young for a couple to undergo treatments. Second, they had barely been married a year when the twins were born. Im wondering if Kate black mailed her doctor? Perhaps being a labour and delivery nurse she new something she shouldn't have and threatened to go public with it? I know its a horrible thing to even say about somebody but I wouldn't put it past Kate. It seems like she will go to any length to get what she wants.

IRATEb/cofKate said...

The Access Hollywood clip was sickening. Kate smiling and laughing when Mady told her to stop being the boss of her! That child needs a rude awakening and so do her parents.

About the CA family...I doubt that they got pregnant with octuplets without fertility treatments. What doctor treats someone who already has SIX children under the age of 9 at home? I just don't understand why risk your LIFE to have more when 6 little ones already depend on you. It just makes me sad. And I hope they don't turn into the Duggars with their jurisdictions...growing up raising your siblings. IMO, not the life a child should have =(.

Its A Good Thing said...

After checking some web sites I realized that Kate is giving a lot of interviews regarding the family who had octuplets. It makes me SICK that Kate is not only making money off of her children but also somebody else's. There is no doubt she is getting paid for these interviews and they aren't even her kids! She doesn't even know this family! What makes it even worse is that the actually family of the octuplets doesn't seem to want any media coverage. The mother isn't even willing to release her families name. Another thing: If Kate wasn't being paid to give her advice she wouldn't say anything.

Kate is a sick, sick woman.

SuzanneDeAz said...

It seems that one does not have to be childless to get fertility treatments. J and K got them after twins. And from what I heard today the woman who gave birth to 8 has six kids at home. So why are they able to get fertility treatments? Any comments?

charliebrownsmom said...

There is a website I visited frequently when I was pregnant that had a forum with numerous threads entitled "TTC (Trying to concieve) twins" containing thousands of posts detailing how to obtain and correctly use fertility drugs (specifically clomid) over the internet illegaly (although those girls would argue...). It was disgusting. These girls had no fertility issues, just wanted to have cute little twin or triplet babies to play with because they were cool. They outright claimed this.

This was a little over a year ago. I was pregnant and bored so I wouild follow these idiots. Some claimed to be succesful, but who knows. I really think some of these girls were mentally ill. Most were not succesful and continued to chronical their efforts. Some tragically got pregnant with a healthy singelton. Sadly many girls got sick. I forget the details. It was something with there overies.

So, yes, it is done. there is definately a group of girls out there desiring multiples. While these girls went behind their doctors' backs to try and get it done, I would venture to say there are just as many if not more girls out there conniving enough to manipulate their doctors into giving them what they want legaly.

The octuplet story does not leave me all warm and fuzzy. This is a trend and should be investigated by some moral authority.

Mystery Mom said...

"It seems that one does not have to be childless to get fertility treatments. J and K got them after twins. And from what I heard today the woman who gave birth to 8 has six kids at home. So why are they able to get fertility treatments? Any comments?"

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Just do what I did -- Black Market Motherhood.

Yummymommy said...

What I found hilarious about the access hollywood clip was that Kate was there to give parenting advice (what a joke that is) to the mom of the octuplete....yet she couldn't even control her own children while she tried to give the advice. This is what really burns my a** about this woman... how can ANYONE justify that she is capable of giving parental advice?

Its A Good Thing said...

SuzanneDeAz said...
It seems that one does not have to be childless to get fertility treatments. J and K got them after twins. And from what I heard today the woman who gave birth to 8 has six kids at home. So why are they able to get fertility treatments? Any comments?

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I don't think they have to be childless but I think any doctor in their right mind would say no to a woman who already has 6 babies. I think the doctors have to step in at that point and say no. Because really if you the doctors aren't able to stop a woman from having treatments who ALREADY has a large number of kids what is stopping every woman from having a litter of kids?


I just hope this doesn't give Kate any ideas.......... Oh Lordy Be, could yo imagine if Kate had more kids?

Abettermom said...

This is my first time posting here. I've watched the show for about a year or so and while in the beginning I found it a bit intriguing, I quickly became annoyed with the parents and the examples they were setting. I've read the blog for months and while sometimes I do feel some posts go to a level of mean that is unnecessary and diminishing to the impact of the legitimate points and issues, I do agree with many of the concerns. I considered posting after watching the new house episode because it made me so sad and disheartened. I was thoroughly disgusted with Kate's behavior - her reaction to the fridge, her walking around aimlessly in a pretend search for a "pooper" just to show how big the house was, her then choosing to leave a kid somewhere in need of help with a dirty bottom, her negativity spewed at the kids during interaction after interaction, and finally the moment that reached me on a level as a mother (not in a good way) that has rarely been touched before - her drill sergeant speech regarding not entering their room. What the heck is wrong with that women (that's a rhetorical question)? How absolutely sad and heartbreaking. Her children are young and small and need her in ways that she is never there - physically and mentally. How can she not get that? How can she be so disconnected from the mother/child bonds? But, that's already been hashed out under the new house episode posts so I won't go on. What compelled me to post today was how disgusted I felt after watching the Access Hollywood clip and CBS This Morning clip (everyone should watch them both if they haven't already). The kids are obviously unhappy being there and she reprimands them fairly severely on national tv for doing what - just being little kids. They are four and half years old. The venom in that woman's eyes when she speaks to them is of utmost concern. And Mady just appears to be suffering at the hands of her mother. Can't Kate realize that her choices are the reasons why this child is developing problems and behaving in the manner in which she regularly does? And the word "spank" sure does seem to be creeping into the kid's dialogue a lot lately. Is that the Gosselin's approach to good parenting - beat their kids into submission? And one last thing - flaunting that you have a storage room in your basement for food to replenish your kitchen cupboards, which must be done daily, is of no help to anyone when seeking advice on how to raise a large family. I know at this point she does little if anything for herself, but saying this to a mother who now has 14 kids and allegedly lives with her Mom is absurd at the least. Not only can Kate not relate to "normal" working parents anymore, she clearly also can no longer even connect with parents of large multiples. Why on earth does anyone think anything this woman has to say will be of any merit? Why do people continue to give her a platform? How do they not walk away scratching their heads in disbelief? How do people not call her out and confront her when she displays this behavior or says the absolutely ignorant things that she does? Honestly, the only good coming from this woman at this time is showing me and other moms exactly how not to be. She is a constant reminder to myself to reevaluate myself as a parent and constantly consider what an impact I or my choices have on my child. We all make mistakes; we all have bad moments that we wish we would have handled differently or maybe had more patience - in the grocery store, at a restaurant, etc.... but just because you have eight kids does not give you a free pass at being a constant source of negativity and condescendence, not to mention possessing a tone that would be too harsh for an animal. Why can't Dr Phil, Dateline, or some other investigative type show address what so many seem to be ignoring? And this woman who is working on this freelance story - does anyone have a time line for this or a destination for what she will produce? Something has to come out into the mainstream media. While it makes us all feel better to have the blog as an outlet to vent our concerns and frustrations, in the grand scheme, the impact of those actions is minimal. I realize some people email sponsors and contact churches, which is admirable and noble, but it's just not enough. The legitimate issues and concerns that are raised on this blog have to find their way into mainstream media - tv shows, national newspapers, credible magazine, etc... I think then and only then will things really start to change for those children.

Ok, I'm done with my rant. Thanks for listening/reading.

Leesehere said...

Make anyone a bet that Mady was going to have a great dose of mom's anger in private!
I just had to listen to this kid again... She is not even 10!!! Wow Hatred...They in huge trouble!

ROFL said...

RE: Access Hollywood Interview


Could someone PLEEAASSE get Mady the memo "our life is the show the show is our Life" because obviously she didn't read it....HEELLLOO?!

Thank you,
Kate Gosselin

FireWife said...

Ok I knoow a little about Fertility Treatments, I have one child (got pregnant in highschool) and then later in life after I got married and decided to have another child (my husband has 2 from a previous marriage) My son will be 10 this year. And I couldn't get pregnant. (I don't ovulate) We have been married for five years, so I don't agree with not giving fertility treatments to people that already have children. I know a little about OCS which Kate has, Normally the treatment is Clomid--a very mild fertility medicine..you have to try that for 3 months before moving on to something else, trying to get pregnant with infertility issues is a long process. So I am unsure how they got pregnant so fast, she obviously bypassed Clomid and went to an IUI, which I found strange. I would hope that Kate and Jon wouldn't purposely try to conceive six babies..but who knows what went on. I can't wait to hear the whole story on the lady with octuplets!! And Kate giving her advice--please lady do the opposite of what she says!

emptynester said...

I'm glad many of you thought the same thing I did about the Access Hollywood clip. It appears Kate is now taking advantage of appearing on many "mainstream" media news/talk/entertainment shows to offer her "advice." Maybe now is the time for US to blitz mainstream media with the real story of the KON gravy train. My thought is that with so much interest in the new octuplets and the fertility issues, reporters and journalists are more apt to listen to the KON story now. You know these reporters ... always looking for a "back" story! I even heard one newscaster this morning mention that the octuplets' mom will probably get a reality show and then she'll be all set.

JulieD2 said...

Commentator, Megyn Kendal on Fox News (let's please not make this a political comment) has questioned the ethics of the clinic that implanted the 8 embryos into the new Octuplet mom. She invited viewers to comment on the topic as well as the topic of WHY a mother would want this done.

I wanted to scream at the TV that this is clearly the mother's best road to TV stardom and wealth.

I wanted to blab what little I know about Kate's rumored "tricky" infertility and fertilization techniques and manipulations.

But then, none of that can be confirmed, really. But how do we KNOW the circumstances of how those eggs were fertilized in octuplet mom. Maybe she idolized Kate and thought, Hey, if I have a bigger family, maybe I can get my own show too.

I haven't sent in any comments Truthfully, I don't remember the details of the alleged manipulations with Kate getting all her embryos fertilized by having sex against doctor's orders. Again, I say, alleged. Of course no one but Jon, Kate and few medical folks know for sure and they'll never tell.

But I can't help but wonder if a note to Megyn Kendal might be in order. She clearly is willing to think and question about extra-HOM without rose colored glasses.

48andFab said...

If I was a taxpayer in Calif. I would be livid! I was watching Good Morning America this morning and it was reported that the woman who had the octuplets was SINGLE and living at home, which leads me to believe that she will not be able to afford these children on her own. What a screwed up world we live in.

As for the Access Hollywood clip - I think Mady probably got "punishment of severeness" after that little display. Poor kids, they looked absolutely miserable.

Yummymommy said...

After checking some web sites I realized that Kate is giving a lot of interviews regarding the family who had octuplets. It makes me SICK that Kate is not only making money off of her children but also somebody else's.

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AMEN! That was exactly my first thought when ppl on this blog started posting links to interviews of Kate giving advice to this mom. I wonder if she is calling around trying to get the interviews, or if these media outlets are seeking her out. Either way it's disgusting. Kate supposedly banished aunt Jodi because she didn't want her making money off her children...yet it's ok for Kate to profit off of someone else's kids? Sickening.

zoey said...

I think Mady has every right to act the way she does.
she is like a circus elephant that is forced to perform day after day. Its only a matter of time before that elephant lashes out in anger.

fedup said...

http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=CpW4uaGyLnI

Did she just squeeze hard a 4 year old on camera?

lifeoriley said...

Regarding the use of fertility treatments-- I have always wondered about that in the G's case.
Many years ago, I worked in the HR dept. of a corporation. Our health insurance company would not pay for fertility treatments until a couple had tried the "natural" way for at least a year. I know much has probably changed since then, but there seems to be a need for stricter regulation/protocol regarding fertility treatments -- to further limit the incidence of high-risk, high-cost, HOMs.

JulieD2 said...

Eh! In my last comment I incorrectly referred to Megyn Kelly as Megyn Kendall. Sorry for that error. I may have been thinking of her maiden name. (?) Anyway, I know a lot of folks don't care for Fox news. That's not what this is about though....

If you want to contact a commentator who seems willing to look at the HOM issues without just saying, "Oh look how cute the kids are. Look how organized Kate it!" here is where you can write in and talk to her about it.

She actually ASKED For viewers to share their thoughts on WHY the mother of the new Octuplets would allow herself to be implanted with 8 embryos.

I thought of Kate and her alleged business dealings from the hospital bed right away.

If you would like to contact Megyn Kelly here is a link:

http://www.foxnews.com/cgi-bin/email.cgi?664594423

Denise said...

Dee, here is the CBS Early Show. Watch Kate snatch at Alexis. She is a terrible mother.

I agree about the Botox, she looks so stiff.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4764337n

MichelleS said...

People Magazine online posted Kate's tips to the new mom of 8.
I wanted to scream!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here are just a few of her tips, and my initials for my opinion:
.Choose your battles – let little things go! You can't control everything.( like when your kids are outside playing playdough-M.S)

• Make every moment count – use the time you are wiping their hands and face or changing a diaper to connect.(or clean a fridge for 4 hrs M.S)
Encourage teamwork – it gets the job done faster and more efficiently while fostering a deep family bond. (Involve kids in chores – it develops a strong work ethic.)(as long as teamwork doesnt include you,just summon everyone else M.S)
....does not surprise me she gave those tips, does she forget how many people watch their show? These might be her offering of tips but she doesnt apply them in her castle!!

nancy019 said...

I think someone should print up some t-shirts with "GO MADDY" on the front...I would buy one

Bicoastal said...

ROFL said: "RE: Access Hollywood Interview


Could someone PLEEAASSE get Mady the memo "our life is the show the show is our Life" because obviously she didn't read it....HEELLLOO?!

Thank you,
Kate Gosselin

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Hilarious! And just a new tidbit: Octuplet Mystery-Mom's (HOM-MOM, to me) parents filed for bankruptcy almost two years ago.
Here is the link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/30/earlyshow/health/main4764432.shtml#ccmm

There are several comments posted on the CBS site snarking on KON and the 18 kid weirdos.

Juliana said...

Hi all!

This is my first time posting here, but probably won't be my last.

I'm guessing this is the best place to mention this, but I've recently moved to England from America, and although I have to resort to YouTube to watch the new episodes of Jon and Kate Plus 8, they do run older episodes on the Discovery Home & Health channel.

Now, One thing about UK TV is that they run very few commercials (compared from what I am used too!), usually for most US shows they pad before and after the show with some filler for their own network. With J&K+8 they run certain scenes longer, with tons of bonus material I never saw when watching in the US or found on You Tube.

Yesterday they ran the episode where Jon, Kate, and the twins go to California and there was a good extra 4 minutes added onto the scene where she drops Alexis and the boys at Beth's house.

Now, I wish I had more detail, but Beth and Kate were talking about Alexis while she was standing right next to them and Kate starts to go on and on about the difficulty of her wild child. Beth says something along the lines of, "No, she's a good little girl" and smiles at Alexis. Kate argues this with a very ugly tone, debating Beth on how she isn't, right in front of everyone.

I think I'm going to start paying really close attention to the older episodes I can catch here. I bet I can watch a lot of interesting things that needed to be left off the US show for "time."

RuthinVA said...

Just watched the Access Hollywood clip. Kate can not handle those children at all. I know nothing embarrasses Kate but that would have embarrassed me. After the gum was given at aunt Jodi's remember Kate saying the kids know how to "get around Jodi," boy that's the pot and all isn't it. They seem to be doing a fine job at "getting around" Kate. Guess that is what is being edited from the show. I knew on the show it was bad but did not realize it was such a free for all. The more interviews they do the worse it gets. "Can we go home now?", thought the kids loved being filmed.

zoey said...

HA on the cbs video mady tells the lady she likes "daddy better" haha that kid cracks me up

Clomid said...

Should anyone expect for 8 kids to sit still at one time? I think the kids were fine. It's not about Kate's not being able to control them; it's just that kids are kids. You can have all the control in the world over your kids and they'd still act up sometimes. If those kids sat still and behaved like perfect angels, people would say they were hynotized or threatened by Kate or something. There is a middle ground. I don't feel everything is black and white.

This lady in California is going to make J&K more popular. The issue of multiple births is a major issue in the news now, which means higher ratings for the show. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but it is what it is. I bet J&K are thrilled about this lady. Not only can they give her advice, but now people are even more curious about multiple births. Crap. Is multiple births a trend now? I better go get me some Clomid and sperm.

VB Mom of 2 Boys said...

This entire octuplet story disturbs me on many levels. I wouldn't doubt that this woman thought she could be Kate Gosselin and Ma Duggar all in one shot by having a set of multiples.

With all of the attention that this woman is getting with her new babies, I hope that people take a nice long look at the other families such as the Gosselins and the Duggars and question their motives for putting them on tv and whether or not their quick rise to fame had anything to do with another woman deciding that she should try to do the same thing.

Bicoastal said...

Sorry to post again but this is too funny to overlook

From Dlisted, the quite hilarious editor/owner Michael K. posted the following about HOM-MOM:

"This is boggling my mind. The woman is 33, single, living with her parents and now has 14 kids?! 8 of which she brought into this world knowing her situation?! Calgon take this bitch to the nearest loony bin! Yeah, we don't know the whole story, but DAMN!

You know what's going to happen next? Move over Duggars, Jon & Kate, there's a new bitch (and her 14 kids) pulling up to TLC town!!!
Posted by: Michael K"

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Somehow I suspect TLC, KON, and their PR agent would like this story to go away. A little too close for comfort, eh? Wonder if the media will finally ask KON some hard questions.

wramblinwreck said...

It looks like Kate and the kids did the interviews for Access Hollywood, CBS, and CNN in succession since they're dressed the same and in the same studio for each one. Maybe AH was the last one and the kids had totally checked out by then. Poor little Aiden rocking back and forth, Mady sassing her mother and dissing her siblings, the other little girls screaming. All this as Kate dispenses her wisdom about HOM motherhood while completely ineffective trying to discipline the kids. Priceless!

RuthinVA said...

I don't know Clomid. I have been to plenty of church programs, school programs, weddings and recitals where children don't act like the Gosselin children did during that filming. Maybe your right and I have just been very lucky all those times.

REAAAALLLLYYY???? said...

Abettermom: Incredibly well said and well written. ITA 100% w/ everything you’ve said.

ROFL: omg … LMAO!!!!!

That Access Hollywood video is truly truly disturbing.

Can someone send TLC the link to the vote on the StarsAreBlind site?

Interestingly, I cannot link to that youtube video where Fedup asked if she’d squeezed a kid on tv. Hmmmm … suspicious?

“I still like daddy better.” ROFLMAO Telling.

zoey said...

Well, the whole world doesnt seem happy for this woman of octuplets and 6 other children so, im sure this will bring NEGATIVE attention to old girl Kate.
Im sure the questions and comments they have for this Breeding ground of a woman will trickledown to kate.

JackfromNY said...

Regarding the woman with 6 kids that had octuplets.

I have a feeling she's trying to cash in on the reality show fame, by having a large family. Now she's probably just waiting for TLC to come knocking on her door to offer her a show.

AuntyK.K. said...

Thought I'd repost this as the other discussion week just ended, and I'd love your responses!
Thankyou!

THere are two emails I received about the March appearance of Kate G.in London Ontario...

(Note:..How Kate charged a "high fee" to attend, but the other speakers are 'included' in the 'admission fee'..)

Here are the two emails:

1.Hello,'....';

Thank you for your inquiry.

Kate Gosselin is a separate ticketed event due to the extremely high fee that she charges to speak at an event.

The $40 ticket also includes a weekend pass to the show, which is a $15 value and gives visitors the opportunity to also visit the show on Saturday for the keynote speaker that day, Marilyn Denis.

Thanks,
Rebecca Darling

2.
Hello, '....';

Kate has several topics that she has presented to us - I believe we are going with "The Six Lessons of Sextuplets" or "The Challenges of Raising Sextuplets" but I cannot 100% confirm that at this time.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Rebecca

1/28/2009 1:18 PM

Its A Good Thing said...

BiCostal: Is she really single and living with her mom? Not that there is anything wrong with that but I really don't think that is a good situation to not only have a baby in but to undergo fertility treatments?! Its just crazy. I think HOM is the new black.

Its A Good Thing said...

Sorry Bicoastal totaly spelt your name wrong! Im so sorry, its been a day lol and its only a couple hours in!

njmom said...

This is my first time posting. Here or anywhere. Like so many others I am just fascinated by the story of Jon and Kate.(not in a good way)Like another poster said I am just not buying their story. Let me first just say I have been blessed to experience two healthy(and unexpected!)pregnancies and the births of two great kids. So I in no way would want to deny a woman that same experience but I have to question the "infertility" of Kate. I happen to be studying this now as I am a nursing student and we learned that technically you are not considered infertile in the eyes of medicine until you have been "trying" for 12 consecutive months without conceiving at all. Now it doesn't appear that Jon and Kate tried at all since according to them they first visited the fertility doc within 6 months of getting married and then got pregnant a couple of months after that. Which definately would have been way less than a year after she was diagnosed with PCOS.
On another note, I know a couple of people with PCOS and one of them has a 5 year old daughter conceived completely spontaneously. They are both currently trying to get pregnant and neither one of their docs is even ready to consider fertility treatmants yet.
Something just doesn't seem right. I heard somewhere on the internet(and I can not say this is accurtate)that her mother was quoted as saying something like Kate was always obsessed with multiples. And this might partly explain the rift between them.
I don't like to make accusations but I don't think anybody knows the whole story with these two.
Just my two cents.....

Robin Greiman said...

Yes the kids were just being kids but Mady was obvious speaking her mind which Kate did not like at all. She most likely will be getting that "spanking" when she gets home. I'm sure Kate is furious. And poor Alexis did grab her arm after Kate stopped the interview to grab Alexis' arm to keep her from playing.

Give me a break Kate, they are kids. She was just playing with a toy and YOU asked for them to be on tv, not the other way around. SHUT and go home and take your own advice and REALLY spend time with your children.

Everything that comes out of her mouth is lies. Like she spends time with her children. She would rather be hitting the "circuit."

bertie22 said...

I noticed when watching the CBS clip on youtube that when they informed Kate that the Cali octuplet mom had 14 kids, the look on her face was pure hatred that turned to masked panic. or maybe the other way around.
After that moment, she seemed very angry that they weren't talking about her, so she directed the focus back onto herself, and then proceeded to forcefully grab Alexis just to demonstrate her power and not concede the upper hand.
I thought that TLC was an outrageous network for allowing this (I have since moved onto A&E, which I find much better for "Learning") but now I see these other stations are just as bad. Any producer or anchor who allows these interviews to go on while the children are so obviously unhappy should be ashamed and should have their integrity questioned.
I am terrified of this new HOM trend. When I first saw J&K+8, I caught myself thinking how cute it would be to have multiples and get a lifetime worth of birthing done in one pop. That was when I knew I had to stop. One of the more superficial, underlying problems of this show is the fact that all of the freebies, donations and mansions gives ignorant, unstable, bandwagon-hopping people (sheeple, if you will) the impression that if you ahve all these babies, the peices will just fall together. They watch Jon and Kate and look up to them because it makes them think "Hmm, J+K aren't all that smart or special, I could do that too!"
The problem is that not everyone knows how to commit to a con as well as the Gosselins, so the pieces won't just come together. I've met so many unrealistic girls who's ambitions are to ultimately become a sparkly trophy wife who can live off of alimony should things go sour. It terrifies me that now you have the element of being able to control how much he pays in child support. Our society is becoming a terrifying place...

overwithKon said...

I hadn't thought about the fertility drugs online, but wow ... you may be right.
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I would not doubt at ALL that you can buy fertility drugs on the internet. Unfortunately I found out the hard way that someone I love was getting something illegally over the internet. It is illegal, but smart(not Kate) can find ways around the laws and rules and you can remain very anonymous online. That would also explain the timing of all of their kids. I think this should also be investigated. Wouldn't that be interesting if she not only tried to do this on purpose but also illegally got the help she *NEEDED*.

Food for thought

Serena said...

One of the hallmarks of an effective form of discipline is that it be portable. Children must know that your rules will be enforced equally in public as they are in private.

Although I'm not a rabid anti-spanking mom, I do think one of the problems with relying on spanking is that you dare not do it in public in today's American society. (Not to mention that spanking is punishment as opposed to discipline but that's another discussion.)

Children are very perceptive and they know that parents who will spank them in private but not in public have a MAJOR weakness to be exploited. Looks like the Gosselin children have learned this quite well and that is why Kate has absolutely no ability to control them in public. They know damn well that Kate won't dare smack them around in public... and since they behave only under threat of physical force, they know they are safe to behave badly as long as they are in public.

Kate has openly admitted to spanking the children; it's not speculative at all that those children are smacked around by two immature idiots who are clueless about child development and child psychology. Add narcissistic personality disorder into the mix and you have extreme dysfunction and miserable children.

I usually don't condone disrespect whether it's from parent to child or vice versa, but IMO Mady's angry backtalk to Kate was the only weapon in Mady's arsenal to strike back at a cruel bitch of a so-called mother... good for Mady. Except that I have a feeling that soon after they were out of camera, Mady had a fat lip and a red bum. Is it any wonder that she sublimates her hostility by kicking her siblings? Her own mother teaches her that the way to dominate those weaker than you is to use physical aggression and Mady is a smart girl who quickly learns what Kate teaches.

organizedblogroll said...

Thank you for posting that Access Hollywood clip.

Those Doctors in California should be stripped of their licenses. That's absolutely disgusting.

Other people don't have children because they can't afford it. Then they read this. Time for TLC to stop rewarding the cattle. Wonder if one of the sealed envelopes is
an offer from TLC.

Anonymous said...

A conversation came up at work today about health insurance. Does anyone know if the Gosselins(parents or children) are insured by TLC? Or do they carry their own?

overwithKON said...

Now that we know the octuplets' mother has 6 children from before, I bet TLC is SPRINTING to their house to beg for a reality show. I mean, they have 2 sets of twins plus octuplets! Who else stands higher on the multiples count than they do?
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Yahooooooo.... I hope they are. I hope that family get the help that they need, actually really need. I hope this new family shuts down KON immediately, even if the parents have no want to exploit them, I defiantly think they are entitled to all the basic freebies that companies have been showering on quads, quints, sextuplets, and septtuplets for the last 15 to 20 years. I don't think the economy play a factor in them receiving less. It may have the opposite effect. Companies that are trying to get out from under KON may jump ship really fast and go straight to this *world record breaking family*. Especially since they have 6 already!

Ha Kate: you are so old news. Your magic uterus is nothing compared to this moms. In your face,, like your little in your face comments about your new Mcmansion....

Jen K said...

Someone asked about PCOS so I thought I would just share my experience/knowledge. I have it, but to a milder degree than some. PCOS is a just that a "syndrome" or collection of symptoms. You can have one or all of the symptoms and in varying degrees which would dictate what you needed to do to rid yourself of symptoms or get pregnant.

In my case, it started in my teens with wildly irregular periods. Most of the other physical or outward symptoms (acne, oily skin etc) I attributed to being a teenager, but when they got worse as I got older I did research and after some testing found out it was PCOS.

Some doctors go too strictly "by the book" as far as lab results go. I needed to go to five doctors to find one who would look at my labs and symptoms together and make a determination that it was PCOS so I could be treated. I had an ultrasound and one side was very cystic. Treatment for symptoms for me was birth control pills and a drug called Spironolactone. I stopped both two months or so before TTC and had got pg on my second try.

What I find strange about Kate's story is that her symptoms seem from her description as rather mild as well and I wonder why she didn't spend a year doing other things like drugs such as Spironolactone or Metformin. Even birth control pills can regulate the cycle enough for the body to catch up and get back on track. There is also a process where you have minor surgery on the ovary to essentially pop the cysts so that the will work more efficiently. All of those methods are considered to be the first courses of action before fertility treatments, especially if multiples are a concern.

It's an odd story if you ask me. She was very young, didn't try to conceive very long and apparently doctor shopped to find one who would do what she asked. Those are red flags, and the types of flags that fertility doctors usually are on the lookout for. The ethical docs will even request psychological evaluations of patients in some cases. Which apparently this doc in California didn't do because it's just come out that she had six kids, history of multiples and lost a house and family went through bankruptcy recently.

Ms.Peach said...

Just saw the "Access Hollywood" clip. Way to go Mady!!! Unfortunately, Cara seemed depressed. And why aren't these kids in school?

cleo said...

The Access Hollywood clip is from 2007 (listen to the voice over)...I am sure they just called her for the statement.

Also the demonic look that Kate has when answering the door for next weeks epi. Is the same crazy look she had at the tag sale when Jon forgot the kids lunch,she even has the same hoody on.

Joanne said...

I cracked up watching that Access Hollywood interview.
Sit on your hiney? Does she not realize how many people will see this? lol
Mady totally embarrassed Kate. Rock on Mady. I love how she said to her mother that she isnt the boss of her. (something like that)
You can tell Mady was disgusted to have to be there, and then her mother cutting her off because we heard enough negativity.

Kate, these kids are going to walk all over you in a few yrs. I would love to see the teenage years just to see Jon and Kate go nuts!!!

Kate is a total shrew. Giving advice to a woman that ALREADY has 6 kids? Please....

SAHM said...

Just watched the Access Hollywood video.....Poor Mady! I feel for that child so much. They are going to have their hands full w/ her in another couple of years. I hope they can handle it.

zoey said...

Miss Peach
im sure the kids dont go to a "real" school.
A. kate is way to controlling im sure she homeschools or has a tutor or something
B. Im sure the kids get teased and picked on and makes it impossible for the girls to have a good day at school
C. im sure Mady acting out makes it way to the school

Anyone out there with kids that know Mady and Cara from school????

snowmom said...

I no longer watch the show, but just saw the interview on CBS and aaaargh, Kate's sense of entitlement and "life is so hard" is just grating on me again! I live in Pennsylvania surrounded by farm areas and there are several Amish and Mennonite farmers near here with 8, 9, 10 kids under the age of 12. They do all the work Kate does and much more, and their children BEHAVE when they are out in public. Many businesses in this state have announced huge layoffs this week and I think it takes a lot of nerve for Kate to say that life is hard because things aren't packaged the way she wants. Are you kidding me? Also, I usually try not to be snarky on these boards, but what was up with Kate's mascara, there is a big smear on her eyelid!

Hambone said...

Gotta love Mady in that Access Hollywood video. She learned from the master. She is her mother's daughter.

Half Pint said...

Just watched the CBS Interview with Kate and the kids. I'm not exactly sure what makes Kate an expert on raising numerous children, just because you are doesn't make you an expert or even good at it, but thought Kate's reaction to the Octuplet mom was helarious. She had no words ... and no facial movements.

Poor Hannah was picking her nose through almost the entire interview. Poor Alexis really got her arm twisted on national TV and poor Mady and Cara just want to go to school!

What a horrible interview.

nc resident said...

This is what really burns my a** about this woman... how can ANYONE justify that she is capable of giving parental advice?

But not only that, why would some churches want to here her story. To me it speaks of greed and a lack of truth. Not to mention Kate feels she has alot in common with this lady as she had eight as well, not at the same time though. It should be clear Kate has had tons of help and without that she is clearly lost.

Kate go home and shut up, most of the people have heard your four/five yr old story and it's old news. Furthermore in todays' economic climate having more than you can financially care for makes little sense either.

You got your house "mine all mine" now tend to your family. Let your kids have a life.

jack said...

The Government needs to step and regulate who can get fertility treatments.
and you should only be allowed to do so once.
i know this is going to rub some people the wrong way but seriously, i thin it needs to be done.
or at least say anything over a triplet would have to be terminated.

nc resident said...

Jen K said: It's an odd story if you ask me.

Jen many of the stories they tell have more holes than a slice of swiss cheese. This is just one point where 1 + 1 = 3. This story, how we got here, nothing adds up with these two.

Tess H. said...

I saw the Access Hollywood piece and I saw another one on Inside Edition. They were dressed in the same clothes with the same set.

My question is: Since the news of the octuplets broke during the week, where were the interviews held? At first, I thought, OMG, there is some set in their new home that allows for the latest breaking news/opinions/crap/... from the Gosselins. Then I thought, no, they must have traveled somewhere. But where? And in the middle of a school week? I know there was bad weather this week but obviously the Gosselins could still be accessed for publicity. Were the kids already out of school or was their job of publicity more important?

Also, in the Inside Edition piece, the kids were much better behaved because lollipops were stuck in their mouths.

There is no need for any media outlet to run to Kate for tips but there is absolutely no reason the kids needed to be there except that they gotta keep their faces front and center. Didn't Kate say that she doesn't force them to be on camera? Yeah, right!

Tammy H. said...

I have a comment about the octuplets that were born to a single mother who had been taking fertility drugs and has 6 kids already (1 set of twins) and they all live with her mother. IMO I believe she wants on the gravy train, just like KON...I mean, KON didn't wait very long after getting married to do the IUI, knowing the usual outcome of that procedure, when most couples try invitro but Kate had to do it RIGHT THEN....and NOW they are still considering adopting a Korean baby...but it has to be a baby!

I am sick to death of all these people who don't work for what they have-they want it given to them-Jon was already trying to get the tups' some sponsors or a show for them before they were even born. He had a website set up just looking for the highest bidder.

This morning, (I have 2 jobs, single mother of 2 girls, age 15 and 12-been divorced almost 12 years with no support from their dad or state, and I am finishing my bachelors degree....I am a substitute teacher (1 of my jobs) and some of the teachers were talking about the OCTuplets this morning...and then that led into a KON discussion...No one in the office could stand them-especially Kate, they basically said Kate was awful and mistreated her kids by loving on some and not others and having favorites and humiliating Jon...everything that has been said on GWOP...The teachers were saying how screwed up those kids were going to be when they grew up and what mental and emotional damage all of Kate's antics had caused them...which of course we won't know til later on in their life.

A few things I still can't get over is on the show the other night when Kate said that after all of the shows are over they would atleast have the college funds for the kids taken care of (GOV of PA gave all 8 kids college trust funds after they tups were born)-SHE STILL WON'T TELL THE TRUTH...then the refusal of the kids in the bedroom or SEVERE CONSEQUENCES (why would you do/say that to your children-just because you said you need your privacy, well, Kate, you asked for all of this craziness now you got it, so PRIVACY IS A THING OF THE PAST-YOUR KIDS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS!) and then the remark about not buying the kids a car and making them get jobs to pay for 1 or making them share....WHO DO YOU THINK GOT YOU WHAT YOU HAVE?? Your kids GOT IT ALL FOR YOU...where is their money? If you get a paycheck for doing the show, then they should also, shouldn't it go into an account for them-individually or do you just keep it all for yourself....Think about it while you are looking out over your kingdom that the exploitation of your kids bought!
1 MORE THING....The only child to get a room of their own is of course Kate's favorite child, Hannah...due to the fact that the other kids get her up too early and she gets migraines. Now that's a little fishy to me, especially from what I have viewed all the kids have to get up at the same time and Collin is usually the hardest..and with them going to school this Fall, they all have the same schedule, so that's a cop out excuse..Kate has to tell lies to cover lies to cover lies. And a couple of her kids are acting JUST LIKE HER...but she blames it on "they need sugar". Kate you better be doing a lot of praying cause you have screwed up 8 kids lives because of your greed..Most everyone knows your fake..Please get lost and stay lost!

Mommy in PA said...

What do you get when someone breeds as frequently as the Duggars and goes for a litter of babies like the Gosselins? A woman giving birth to Octuplets who also has 6 other children at home (one set of twins among them).
I will give this family at least some credit for now - they won't release the mom's name to the media, and they apparently have a large house somewhere not close to the hospital and will not say where. So it seems they are, at least for now, trying to keep these kids away from the media. But I don't doubt we'll eventually see a TLC special on them at some point, escpecially since these are only the second set of octuplets in US history (only 7 survived in the previous set), and they all appear to be healthy. Hey, looks like Kate is no longer the only one with a miracle uterus!

Here's an article about the octuplets:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_on_re_us/octuplets

And here's one on why humans shouldn't breed litters:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090130/sc_livescience/8isenoughthelimitstohumanreproduction

Chris said...

I'm a firm believer that there are times that it is appropriate to spank a child. One swat, with the hand, to the bottom. If that doesn't take care of the situation you have a really big problem with the behavior. We'be all seen Kate walking around with the empty papertowel roll in her hand. That leads me to believe that she beats on these kids with wooden spoons, paint stirrers or whatever is handy. That is totally inappropriate and abusive. Just my opinion.

fedup said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpW4uaGyLnI

Sorry.. go to u tube and put in gosselin on cbs..
it works!!!!

VB Mom of 2 Boys said...

Somehow I suspect TLC, KON, and their PR agent would like this story to go away. A little too close for comfort, eh? Wonder if the media will finally ask KON some hard questions.

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I love how this octuplet story is breaking the same week as the episodes of the Gosselins moving into their McMansion. I hope one of the news programs starts comparing all of these families and the freebies they've received and starts asking questions about whether or not this woman decided she was going to use her uterus to make it big time, especially since she lives in CA and probably isn't too far from Hollywood.

Did anyone catch the quote from the grandfather of the octuplets? I don't have the exact quote but it said something to the extent that they have a big house and that nobody is going to find the mother or the babies. I think that there says a lot about their motives, and I don't think they had good motives.

Barb said...

To the poster who asked about health insurance, doesn't the state of Pennsylvania provide free health insurance for the children who live in it's state? I thought I read that somewhere.

Rachel107 said...

http://www.av1611.org/crock/judbynum.html

This is one interpretation of Scripture. Futher down in this pastor's diatribe he condemns "Christian Rock!" and he proclaims that people who do not judge are either disobeying God outrightly or are "spritually immature." These are generally the type of Christians that hate gays and single moms. I'm all for standing up for truth, but this website is ridiculous.

On the octuplet's mom in CA, I personally am offended that anyone would give a woman with 6 children fertility drugs. I almost hope she did buy it over the internet. I can excuse the stupidity of ordinary people, because there will always be stupidity in this world, but doctors need to be held to a higher standard. Those drugs are for women having trouble conceiving their first or second child, not their 7th-14th.

ROFL said...

Serena said:

Children are very perceptive and they know that parents who will spank them in private but not in public have a MAJOR weakness to be exploited. Looks like the Gosselin children have learned this quite well and that is why Kate has absolutely no ability to control them in public. They know damn well that Kate won't dare smack them around in public... and since they behave only under threat of physical force, they know they are safe to behave badly as long as they are in public.

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WOW! Very perceptive. . . . .

Mrs.Pete said...

During the Access Hollywood interview Kate sat in that chair like it was her throne. They should have given her a "white plastic" chair so she'd feel more at home.

CatWoman said...

I just watched one of the interview videos..not sure which one but where Maddy asks her mom to not boss her...Wow! I know all kids are different but, at this age little girls USUALLY are pretty glued to their moms AND want to emulate everything they do (we all know they grow out of that REAL fast!) My girls are 8 and 6, and they cant do enough to get near me, show me things, etc-AND: when I ask them to do something I get a "OK Mommy" . NEVER a backtalk! And no my kids arent perfect . BUT, there are developmental stages that are typical of all children to some degree, and I dont see much of it in the G kids..insofar as the Psychological growth. IE: attachment to mom, opinion of mom is usually SKY HIGH at their ages. You can just tell readily that Mady dislikes not ONLY the 'tups, but her own mom!
Also, if that were me on the other interview (didnt see it), where Mady said on TV she "Liked Daddy better."??? I WOULD BE CRUSHED just CRUSHED. I can actually FEEL for Kate on that one. Wow.

MaryD said...

I have to agree with others. I think it is disgusting how Kate is using these new births as a way to get more publicity for herself. I don't know if the programs are contacting her or if Kate's PR Firm is calling the programs and offering Kate for interviews but it doesn't matter.

I just can't believe all these people who come to Kate to ask her for parenting advice. She is definitely not a role model when it comes to parenting. The only advice she could possibly give to this new mother is how to use your children for financial gain.

June said...

I have more control over my daycare class of 9 three year olds than kate does of her own children, and that is because I treat my little students with love and respect so they respect me back.

Those kids are clearly tired of being paraded and dragged around. Those are not happy kids. Joel looked so spaced out and poor Mady. My heart breaks for that child but at the same time I think she will survive because that girl has spunk:) I fear that Mady had a "severe punishment" after what she was saying in that interview:(

I thought Jon ( in the Utah interview) said that the kids don't do interviews? What an outright LIE.

I also worry that the octuplet mom was emulating Kate ( money & fame) ???

Not to judge...BUT who in their right mind would TRY to have another child when you already have SIX and you live in a 3 bedroom home with you PARENTS!!!!!

Sheer Madness said...

Kate please don't mess with Alexis. That kid rocks. She'll sick her alligator on you.

momof4girls said...

I'd just like to throw out that watching this show, no matter what your reason, or your feeling about it, is still watching. Neither the network nor the sponsors care that you may be watching out of sheer curiosity for the negative things you have heard and/or read, or that you find serious fault in the exploitation of 8 small children. I must admit, I, too am guilty of watching. I no longer allow my children to watch, but I watch. Not sure why I do....I really do believe the children are being exploited...perhaps it is to spot conversation-worthy clips to chat about with my friends who claim to hate watching as much as me, but still watch just the same. The point is...somewhere on this blog is a section offering information on what you can do to make your opinion known regarding the show. I.e. Write to TLC and let them know of your disapproval. Anyone ever thought about writing to the 'sponsors' of this show and letting them know of your feelings? Any product used on the show in which the label is not 'blurred' is most likely a paying sponsor. Also...any thought given to how digital cable affects ratings? In the old days, unless you had a Nielson box on your set, no one but you knew what you were watching...not so in the new age of big brother. Just curious if anyone else has thought of these things.

machinegunsmom said...

A lot of people are hoping Octuplet Mom takes over Queen Kate's empire and kicks her out of the spotlight--I have bigger problems with Octuplet Mom. I can't speak for her personality, but she already had 6 children, lives with her parents in a 2-bedroom house, and for some unexplained reason, took fertility drugs to have OCTUPLETS. EIGHT babies on top of the six children she already had.

Something tells me she's trying to hitch a ride on the gravy train as well...

zoey said...

Catwoman said:
Also, if that were me on the other interview (didnt see it), where Mady said on TV she "Liked Daddy better."??? I WOULD BE CRUSHED just CRUSHED. I can actually FEEL for Kate on that one. Wow.
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Dont feel sorry for kate, she laughed her head off when Mady said that. They have no bond kate doesnt care what Mady thinks of her BUT when Mady is "negative" about the TUPS aka moneymakers, thats where Kate draws the line

Lexie said...

Now, I wish I had more detail, but Beth and Kate were talking about Alexis while she was standing right next to them and Kate starts to go on and on about the difficulty of her wild child. Beth says something along the lines of, "No, she's a good little girl" and smiles at Alexis. Kate argues this with a very ugly tone, debating Beth on how she isn't, right in front of everyone.
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Really? She said that right in front of her? What a horrible witch! Good for Beth standing up to Kate. Maybe this is one of the reasons the two are no longer friends.

CA Grl said...

This iraqi woman who gave birth to the 8 kids? I think because she isn't a US citizen she probably won't be receiving any benefits.

dizzy_squishling_and_bean said...

Am I the only one who figures they were probably doing the dirty before they got married and that's one of the reasons they were allowed on fertility treatments 6 months later? I'm not saying they couldn't have lied, I just think that they were probably .... doin it for a lack of a better term lol.

I do have to say I think it's sad that people are immediately saying that this woman with the 8 new babies is so bad. Seriously we don't have any clue what's going on.
The link the the supposed bankruptcy is broken btw. I have a hard time believing stuff like that if I can't actually see it.

She may be a coniving bitch trying to exploit her kids, she also might be someone who really wanted a lot of kids and can take care of them. We don't know yet.

machinegunsmom said...

The Access Hollywood video froze up on me but I caught all of the audio...whew! Go Mady. Doesn't sound like she's a fan of the publicity machine her mother created...and why was Hannah the only tup allowed to introduce herself? I'm sure all of the other 4-year-olds are capable of stating their names. I did like her hair, though--it's nice to see her face.

I'm afraid for what happened to Mady off camera. I think Kate would be much happier with only her precious Hannie and maybe Leah, since she doesn't cause too much trouble.

UniStudent said...

Did anyone hear in the Access Hollywood video Mady say that one of the tups should get a spanking for acting out! These kids are definetley spanked, and from Mady's mouth are obviously spanked for not all that serious reasons.
I can't believe this "interview". Can't people see how much these children hate their "celebrity" life. This is no way to grow up...

Its A Good Thing said...

Holy Heavens! Love the interview with AH! Mady is so great. And I guess we now know what the severe punishment is. Straight from the mouth of babes (Mady): I think she deserves a spanking.

Also the poor kids just want to be at home, they really don't want to be doing the interview. And not one of those kids listened to Kate, but I guess that happens when your only around them during filming eh?

JB28 said...

I thought I may say this about the video and Mady's behavoir. She is angry because my niece acts the same way. One minute she hates things(my niece) the next she loves it. It is the anger coming out because she still has not adjusted to the fact that she has so many brothers and sisters. My niece and nephews case is far different from hers but the attitude and the body language and the words are all the same. My nephew who is about Mady's age does the same thing too. I do not know what to say that may help her other then hopefully she will find something that will serve as an outlet to express this. I know what it feels like to be in a room when someone talks a lot like Kate does. It is uncomfortable and awkward, so maybe that is why I do not cringe when Kate goes off. Anyway sorry my post is a little random but just thought I would say that I have seen that behavior before.

Techymum said...

With sadness/disgust watched the interviews. I just hope that the churches that are inviting them in have a close look.

Interesting note - watch Mady's eyes after she is "shusshed" by Kate. Mady keeps her eyes GLUED to Kate's hand.

That, to me, told the untold story.

Just my thoughts.

KG said...

Okay, I have had enough of this madness! Like many, I used to adore the Gosselin's (yeah, gag.. I know). It INFURIATES me because if you think about it, TLC's stupidity pretty much promoted fertility treatments FOR MONETARY gain. Let me point out a couple of things..

Does anyone recall when Kate blamed society and said WE are responsible to take care of her kids because society promotes fertility drugs? Umm way to go Katie… maybe your sorry ass is responsible for possibly promoting to that woman who just had octuplets that having a litter of kids can buy your way through life.

While I understand the children are innocent and are blessings, this is just ridiculous.It has clearly been stated by the doctors that delivered the 8 that there is apparently no father figure, this woman in in her 30's, lives with her parents in a 2-3 bedroom one story home, has filed for bankruptcy even before she was pregnant AND already had 6 kids. I cannot force myself to believe she loves her kids… she already had six all under the age of 10 and could not even afford them and to have 8 more is just irresponsible!

Sorry to make assumptions but there are just some similarities that stick out: J+K wanted privacy in the beginning… then started accepting "gifts" (I mean, I would too), saying who were they to decide who lives and who didn’t (as far as the multiple pregnancies), and barely making ends meet.. Then all of a sudden they're "celebrities".

PLEASE DO NOT BLAME SOCIETY for "advertising" fertility treatments as SOCIETY will be the one paying and supporting these kids through taxes while this "bankrupt" mother recieves gifts, gets a reality show, a $1.3 million dollar bedroom for each of the 14 kids (sorry Kate)…

MARK MY WORDS.. You know it will happen.

Kate, not only is this woman going to put you in her shadows as she has SIX more kids than you, she is also going to eventually make a gravy train. I hate to make assumptions but does anyone else feel me on this?

I do find it funny though that Kate is all of a sudden on TV giving advice… shut up, b*tch. You know you don’t even have a chance because TLC is going to put ***** Suleman plus 14.

And if she has 14 kids, why would she take advice from someone who doesn’t even take care of their own kids? Maybe her camera crew should be the one on Good Morning America giving advice about multiples.

Why the bitterness? Oh it's simple really… Here is that lady filing bankruptcy, me working hard, then she has a litter, will eventually get rich because of her kids like J+k, claim all 14 kids on her taxes that WE all work hard for.

Yeah, I live in CA. Forgive me for being bitter… I know Im not supposed to make assumptions about the new mother but that was just irresponsible on her part and if you don’t think she was seeking media attention, think again when she shouldve thought about already having six AND living with her parents then running to a fertility doctor (or internet websites offering fertility medicine as others have stated).

I can just imagine.. Mom & 14 on TLC trying to show how "normal" they are… on trips to other COUNTRIES (of course they wont mention who paid for them)… I mean c'mon… J+K ONLY had 8.. Imagine what TLC is going to give on their hands and feet with 14. It's sick, really. These poor kids and their mothers/idiots.

ARHG!!

Katesucks said...

OMG! The look of terror on Kates face when the CBS lady told her the other family had a total of 14 kids was priceless.

Clearly they caught her off guard and she could not hide her emotions.

Sorry Kate, looks like the gravy train is coming to a stop for you.

Marie said...

I have always believed that Kate knowingly and purposly got pregnant on purpose with HOM for the simple reason to gain fame. Kate did not want kids she wanted noriety.

I also think that the octuplet mother was obsessed with J&K and this made her go and use fertility drugs to also gain the attention. But, it also is backfiring.
Women are getting fertility drugs on the internet from Mexico just to have HOM. Go to any mom site and that's all you see is women secretly eating Clomid to have multiples.

With the media attention on this octuplet pregnancy maybe there will finally be some backlash on KON and their child exploitation abuse.

KG said...

Oh yeah, I forgot who asked about it but to be prescribed Clomid, the doctors (in their right minds anyway) will not prescribe anything or even really see/consult unless you have been trying for at least a year so obviously there are crazies out there (Ahem, ahem KATE) that could not wait and probably found some other way.

Chela27 said...

Kate and the kids were on The Early Show this morning. Man, Kate just reeforced all my negative perceptions of her. She came across as shrill, whining, and ungrateful.
She also has DEFINITELY had her eyes done and she should ask for her money back, they look awful. She did manage to open them up to astonishing proportions to give Alexis the death stare and hiss ALEXIS!
I love that Mady and Cara were miked up and when the interviewer asked if Kate was a good mom they hemmed and hawed, finally said yes and then Mady said, but I like Daddy better! GO Mady! You are gonna pay for that one later, but it made for good TV.

Denise L said...

Karen said...
Now that we know the octuplets' mother has 6 children from before, I bet TLC is SPRINTING to their house to beg for a reality show. I mean, they have 2 sets of twins plus octuplets! Who else stands higher on the multiples count than they do?

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Do you know that this "mother" has no husband or partner and she still lives with her parents in a two bedroom house in Whittier, CA? And that they filed bankruptcy just two weeks ago? The mother says she refused to reduce. Where have we heard this before? At this point, I think twice when somebody talks about getting/having fertility treatments. What is their REAL motivation?? What is their agenda? Bankruptcy, eh? Does this chick plan to live high like KON off her kids? It seems KON has created a whole new scam that people are latching on to! And they are getting pregnant with mutiples because there is a whole black market in fertility drugs. Women meet in mall parking lots to sell or swap fertility drugs. They also order them online (illegal!). They are all eager to "breed to feed greed!" I may be pissing off a number of people who are legimately undergoing fertility treatments and I apologize to you in advance. I am speaking to the irresponsible, immature, sleazebags who think they can play Russian roulette with HOMs. What the hell if the kids are born with severe handicaps and medical conditions? These women do not care. They make me sick.

Sasha222 said...

Ummmm can people please stop using their uterus's as a money magnet.....please?

Can't believe this new Octuplets woman. I mean she is a single mom living with her parents and already has 6 kids. Why on effing earth would she get fertility treatments to have more kids other then she probably saw what it did for Kate Gosselin?!

I bet TLC is already after her like flies on sh*t. Kon better stop acting like A-listers and save up all that dough cause they are in trouble if this chick gets her own show!

Where is Common Sense? said...

Octuplet Mom and Grandparents stand to gain more by keeping their babies "secret" for a while. They are giving all the media outlets, magazines, tabloids, tv producers, etc. time to put together and submit "bids" for pictures, interviews, tv shows, etc. After all, you must earn as much as possible from the "marketability" of these babies as early and as long as possible.

Bicoastal said...

From MSNBC's front page, the octuplets' grandfather, Ed, speaks to the media: ""We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who would only identify himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."

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So Grampa Ed, who filed for bankruptcy a year and one half ago, has a "huge house" somewhere he thinks the media won't find.

How is it an alleged "huge house" escaped the bankruptcy court? Nice to see the new uber-sized HOM family are learning to b.s. right off at the bat.

Chips off the old KON, they are!

Sasha222 said...

OMG I just watched that video and all I can say is "Poor Mady"!!! If that isn't a sure sign that that kid is miserable I don't know what is. You just know Kate is going to unleash on her when they get home after that interview. That literally made me sad...

ESNSN said...

OMG! I just watched the CBS video where Kate dismisses Mady's comments about how annoying the tups are by telling her that whether she had one 4-year-old sibling or six, it would all be the same, it would be just as annoying, that six is no more annoying than one!

Is she f***ing kidding?? How would Kate have liked it if the entire community of people that have come out of the woodwork to help her out when the tups were born told her, "No big deal, you don't need any help, whether you have one newborn or six, it's al the same".

What a truly idiotic, narcissistic, self-absorbed BITCH.

R.N. said...

As a member of the medical community I can say that most of us are horrified by this situation of the mom in California. The family is refusing to tell us the information we need to know to have an intelligent conversation at this point. Due to federal regulations all I can say is this woman was already pregnant when she presented herself at Kaiser Medical Center.

Its A Good Thing said...

R.N. said...
As a member of the medical community I can say that most of us are horrified by this situation of the mom in California. The family is refusing to tell us the information we need to know to have an intelligent conversation at this point. Due to federal regulations all I can say is this woman was already pregnant when she presented herself at Kaiser Medical Center.


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Wow. I have do have a question though, I have been hearing/reading that she isn't a U.S citizen does anybody know for sure either way?

AnneMarie said...

OMG she grabbed Lexi HARD, I think even Lexi was shocked into silence with how hard that was!!!!

I dread to think of the level of physical punishment that goes on in that household.

ZOEY said...

From MSNBC's front page, the octuplets' grandfather, Ed, speaks to the media: ""We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who would only identify himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."


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COULD BE IN IRAQ

Dee said...

Can someone fill be in on this? I had read here that Kate didn't go on the boys' special days, but never heard why. Then just this morning I saw a part of a show where Jon is taking a boy on his special day.

Kate says that Jon takes the boys and they both take the girls because "I don't drive hither, thither and yon." But at the end of the episode she says in the future they are going to choose a month to repeat these days because "it's necessary to do" and they have to "make the effort."

My question: why doesn't she make the effort for the boys? Hasn't she driven "hither, thither, and yon" for other trips?

Jen K said...

Peter Nagy, and embryologist, was just interviewed on CNN and said that according to the guidelines that the reproductive community are urged to follow, a woman under 35 should not be implanted with more than 1 embryo at a time and that the maximum is 5 embryos for patients 40 years old and over.

So this California doc is likely in for some big trouble at least from his peers and maybe from a licensing agency?

Erica said...

Does anyone have the link to the access hollywood interview? Thanks in advance!

Bonita said...

Bicoastal said...
From MSNBC's front page, the octuplets' grandfather, Ed, speaks to the media: ""We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who would only identify himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."

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So Grampa Ed, who filed for bankruptcy a year and one half ago, has a "huge house" somewhere he thinks the media won't find.
How is it an alleged "huge house" escaped the bankruptcy court? Nice to see the new uber-sized HOM family are learning to b.s. right off at the bat.
Chips off the old KON, they are!
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The LA Times is reporting that this "mother" is getting flowers, cards, and "sealed envelopes" at a frentic pace in the hospital. This poor excuse of a woman is getting NOTHING from me - not even one iota of empathy or sympathy. People who use pregnancy with HOMs for attention and profit should be jailed. I bet she planned this all out and the "big house" that her father Ed is referring to was already bought and paid for by TLC and they are going to move in.

Denise L said...

A simple internet search reveals that the woman's name is Nadya Suleman, age 33. She does live with her parents and might be divorced as she is listed with a previous name of "Gutierrez." I looked it up on voompeople.com and confirmed it on white pages.com Her dad and mom's names are Angela and Ed Suleman and they live in Whittier. There are two addresses for them in Whittier and one must be the new palace for them, their daughter, the new high priestess of HOMs, and the poor HOMs themselves. What is this? This is like puppy mills for humans.

Marie said...

Just watched the Access Hollywood video.That is a bad light regarding the Gosselin household. Those kids seemed just out of control and unhappy.If I was not familiar with the family (watching the show) I would think that Kate was miserable and the kids were bad.

zoey said...

OUT OF COUNTRY ASSETS probably arent taken into concideration when going bankrupt.
canda.... mexico... supposedly they are from iraq according to other sites.......

Tess H. said...

I see that Kate is scheduled for a book signing in Chicago on Monday. I wonder if all the fans will bombard her with talk of the new octuplets and how that would go over with her.

http://bettereditor.org/news/2009/01/kate-gosselin-to-sign-copies-of.html

timetogokon said...

Access Hollywood, People.com, CBS Morning News, any others ?

We all should be writing to them. That Kate is STILL trying to give advice is just ludicrous.

I saw the AH clip on YouTube. You can tell that Kate is agitated by the way she keeps swinging her foot.

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To Dee:

Kate not going on the boys' days out is just one of hundreds of examples of Kate not caring about her own male children. She used the pathetic excuse about not liking to drive, but Jon would have been there , so that excuse goes right out the window.

Kate Gosselin is a horrible person, a terrible mother and a greedy, scamming liar. Jon's not off the hook either......

Serena said...

Note from Admins: We now have a separate thread for all discussion regarding the octuplet birth and Kate's interviews... please direct all future comments about that topic to that thread -- thanks!

justasking said...

"Jen K said...
Peter Nagy, and embryologist, was just interviewed on CNN and said that according to the guidelines that the reproductive community are urged to follow, a woman under 35 should not be implanted with more than 1 embryo at a time and that the maximum is 5 embryos for patients 40 years old and over.

So this California doc is likely in for some big trouble at least from his peers and maybe from a licensing agency?"

Is it confirmed that a physician in CA or the U.S. implanted 8 embyros into this woman? Or that a physician even oversaw fertilization while this woman was in a hyper ovulated state?

Not arguing this point but am curious as to why people are sure a physician was complicit in this woman's misuse of infertility treatment. She showed up OB's who delivered the babies already 3 months pregnant. A woman with overstimulated ovaries and too many follicles ripe for fertilization can be advised against sex by a doctor but if that individual is determined to have HOM (like Kate Gosselin) there isn't anything a doctor can do to prevent the woman from having sex.

Apparently, there are women who watch the Gosselins who want to ride the same gravy train and are taking fertility drugs w/o physician supervision with the hopes of MOH.

However, if this CA mother of octuplets was implanted by a physician then he or she and the clinic where it took place should be responsible for covering all costs of the 8 children until they reach 18 and beyond if there are medical issues as with any malpractice case involving human births.

Don'tHurtAlexis said...

Does anyone else find the irony of the "make the most of each moment with each child when washing a face, etc." and then she pinches the heck out of Alexis? It would actually be funny if it wasn't so upsetting to see how she roughly handled Alexis.

It appears Kate did several of those interviews (Access, CBS Early morning show, and at least 1 other show who's name I can't remember). Those kids were bored stiff and getting antsy. Who can blame them?

pinkdiamond611 said...

I think there is going to be a backlash against the mother of the octuplets, which will affect Kon. At first it seemed miraculous. But now the tone of the news reports seem like there is something "not kosher" about it. Plus, as reported on the other thread there have been experts speaking out against using these children as a source of income.

Soon2bwife said...

Oh my the Access Hollywood clip is so telling (and priceless.
Kate saying to Mady ok that's enough you've said enough negative things. Uhh, wonder were she learned this behavior.

A must see:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

Dirty Laundry said...

Thank goodness for Kate's wisdom because I need some advice.
First thing I'm desperate to know is: How one can most effectively tuck the "jowls of the dog" into one's pants?

Where's Waldo? Oops Jon said...

What I would like to know is where the hell was Jon today during all the interviews? If they are such glorious parents, why wasn't he there to keep an eye on them or better yet, why weren't the kids home while Kate was "circuiting." It was painfully obvious the kids didn't want any part of it.

Shame on the Gosselins AGAIN! And quit beating your kids.

Peg said...

Anyone who wants to contact Borders to express their displeasure about her book signing in Oakbrook,Il can contact them here.

(630) 574-0800, ext. 580, or ksohack1@bordersgroupinc.com.

konspiracytheory said...

The company that KON has hired to help "brand" themselves:

http://mediamotionintl.com/

Debra said...

Peg said...
Anyone who wants to contact Borders to express their displeasure about her book signing in Oakbrook,Il can contact them here.

(630) 574-0800, ext. 580, or ksohack1@bordersgroupinc.com.

WHAT?! I live right near Oakbrook! I do not want Kate Gosselin anywhere near here. Thanks so much for the info - I am going to email AND call! I can't believe Borders is allowing this. This is a mainstream bookstore for normal people. That frigging bitch doesn't read, speak, or write worth shit. Disgusting.

Dirty Laundry said...

I'd also appreciate some advice from Kate on how best to denigrate my husband. He still seems relatively happy so I must be doing something wrong.

Dee said...

"What I would like to know is where the hell was Jon today during all the interviews? If they are such glorious parents, why wasn't he there to keep an eye on them or better yet, why weren't the kids home while Kate was "circuiting." "

Yeah, I thought he was supposed to be a "house husband" so it's not like he had to take off work.

Four said...

soon2bwife said:

Oh my the Access Hollywood clip is so telling (and priceless.
Kate saying to Mady ok that's enough you've said enough negative things. Uhh, wonder were she learned this behavior.

A must see:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

1/30/2009 1:04 PM

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

It's official and obvious, the show is edited to make them look better than they really are.

Kates Face Looks Funny! said...

Ok- Someone help me out here.

I watched Kate on both interviews and all I saw was Mady [doing her impression of Kate], and Kate sqawking at the kids. And I caught a glimpse of Kate's new frozen face look which goes great with her goofy hairdo.

What was the advice?!


Just Asking.

DirtyLaundryFan said...

Dirty Laundry,

You are so Funny!

Thanks for the laughs.

Janie said...

Oh no, not again!

I just came across this on a link from another site. The Masche sextuplets are going to have a reality show on the WE channel. (It's at the end of the top article on this page.)

http://www.maschemiracles.com/presscoverage.htm

Legislation protecting minors on reality television has to be enacted.......maybe they will protect their children better than KON, but it's such a slippery slope.

concerned said...

Very strange, I have posted many items here and always get on. EXCEPT, when I mention boycotting the show? I have written at least 4 posts suggesting we simply do not watch this show and stop writing, emailing sponsors, tlc, etc., let the buzz die.

Are the moderators of this site concerned with the well being of these kids or not? The process of getting those kids help wont start until the show is gone.

the refusal to allow posts mentioning boycott makes me wonder what the true objective of this blog is?

Dont get me wrong, I do appreciate the forum and recognize the efforts of the moderators in allowing ALOT of people vent. A boycott would seem to me the obvious right thing to do and its becoming more and more intersting that no boycott posts are permitted?

Serena said...

Very strange, I have posted many items here and always get on. EXCEPT, when I mention boycotting the show?

We get dozens of comments every day from people saying that we should "just stop watching". When I am the one moderating the comments, I generally don't publish those. For several reasons:

First, we get it. It's a sentiment that has been published repeatedly since this blog opened.

Second, we've countered, repeatedly, that the majority of us posting here are not Nielsen families, and many of us don't DVR the show... so whether or not we continue to watch is irrelevant to ratings.

Third, if we don't watch, we won't know which sponsors to boycott and complain to.

Fourth, if we don't watch, we will not fully understand the battle we are fighting. We want to instigate legislation to protect children being exploited in reality TV shows... how can we effectively lobby for this if we don't know what we're talking about? Can you imagine how it would sound if we said, "We want shows like J&K regulated and included under protective legislation... well no, we don't actually watch the show so we don't know what's going on... but we're outraged anyway!". Pffft... you have to KNOW your enemy if you're going to fight it effectively.

So no -- burying our head in the sand won't make us very useful advocates.

concerned said...

Serena, thanks for the thoughtful response, very valid points, but I still contend that when the buzz dies the show goes away.

Thanks for the chance to make my point, thats what I like about this site!

You've Got To Be Kidding said...

Its A Good Thing said...

Im wondering if Kate black mailed her doctor? Perhaps being a labour and delivery nurse she new something she shouldn't have and threatened to go public with it? I know its a horrible thing to even say about somebody but I wouldn't put it past Kate. It seems like she will go to any length to get what she wants.

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Wow, there are some mighty fertile (pun intended) imaginations around here. Surely you can't be serious?

AnnaKS said...

Kate and the kids were on Access Hollywood last night. The kids look miserable ... maybe they don't want to do the family job anymore??? http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

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What a horrendously horrendous interview! The kids were not well behaved, Mady was a smart mouth, and Kate was very sarcastic. I don't know why she stops in the middle of an interview to discipline the kids, it doesn't work.

They either need to really work on teaching the kids to sit still and smile for 5 minutes or stop having them do interviews. I would be so embarrassed if this was my family.

Obviously the kids are so used to being themselves in front of the cameras that they don't know how to act any other way. Sad.

Serena said...

Serena, thanks for the thoughtful response, very valid points, but I still contend that when the buzz dies the show goes away.

I would LOVE for the show to go away. But I think it is here to stay for quite a bit longer. There are too many sheeple mired in ignorance or willfully blind who will ensure its continuation.

We have our sights set higher than just one show; once there is effective legislation in place to protect the Gosselin children and those like them, shows like J&K+8 won't exist at all in the future... or if they do, they will be filmed quite differently. I think that is the more important goal.

Thanks for the chance to make my point, thats what I like about this site!

You're welcome -- and many thanks to you and all the readers who contribute here every day.

IRATEb/cofKate said...

Kates Face Looks Funny! said...

Ok- Someone help me out here.

I watched Kate on both interviews and all I saw was Mady [doing her impression of Kate], and Kate sqawking at the kids. And I caught a glimpse of Kate's new frozen face look which goes great with her goofy hairdo.
________________

I posted this on another thread but perhaps you'll get a kick out of it. She made this face on the Ortho Epi:

All I can think of when she gives that ridiculously hideously hideous grin:

http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alicepic/disney-movie/cheshire-cat-13.jpg

Its A Good Thing said...

You've Got To Be Kidding: If you had read my whole comment you would know that I really hope she didn't. But I wouldn't put it past her. Also if a doctor did continue treatment when she had over stimulated ovaries I fear for the health of other infertile woman.


So basically its Kate stepped over the bounds or a doctor did. And I don't think a doctor would knowingly continue treatments.

TargetGirl said...

I'm considering mailing photocopies of all of my Target receipts to the Consumer Relations department at Kmart to show the actual dollar amount that I am not spending with them as a way of peacefully boycotting Kmart and hopefully influence their choice of Kate as a spokesperson.

Anyone with me on this one? Surely someone can dig up that address right? Bonus points if you have a receipt for something purchased at Kmart that you could return and rebuy at Target and send in both the return receipt and Target receipt.

Maybe if they see people seriously choosing to spend with Target instead of Kmart it will make a more thoughtful impression.

Kates Face Looks Funny! said...

IRATEb/cofKATE said,

All I can think of when she gives that ridiculously hideously hideous grin:

http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alicepic/disney-movie/cheshire-cat-13.jpg

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OMG - You found Kate's doppleganger! lol

Wal-Mart Lady said...

Target Girl,

Great Idea. I'm a Wal-Mart shopper and I'm collecting my receipts today to send off to
Kate-Mart.

thecloserfan said...

I don't know if this comment will actually get posted but iTunes has a free episode of Jon and Kate + 8 entitled 'Meet Jon and Kate'. The program basically goes through how they met, their wedding, etc. Kate did say that she always had 'a feeling' that she was going to have trouble conceiving and low and behold she was right. So she and Jon wasted no time in seeing a fertility specialist. Sounds like someone with an agenda.

Itunes also has the episode 'The New House' and the second time Mady kicks Alexis on the landing is not included in this particular episode. More damage control although a little too late.

Maggie said...

Serena -

In today's world Nielson families are used more to understand programming and are not the only ones that account for ratings. If you have digital cable or satellite than that information can and is reported to networks.

I do understand the need to watch the show in order to know what is being aired. If a few people watched and then shared incidents and sponsors to the rest the ratings would be effected and people would still be able to write letters. Letter writing campaigns would be even more convincing if ratings were also dropping.

Suzy-Q said...

It irritates me when I hear the interviews with Kate saying that no one goes into fertility treatments thinking they may get six babies. I have fertility issues and that was the first thing I told my doctor - "I don't want to end up with six babies!" I have PCOS as well and luckily I responded very well to Metformin and was pregnant within 2 months. I had to go to three different doctors to get my diagnosis though. They didn't even want to test me for PCOS until I had been trying to get pregnant for a year (even though my cycles were all over the place). So after all the trouble I had getting a simple blood test to show the PCOS I had suspected, I find it highly suspicious that Kate was able to get get much more serious fertility treatments in such a short amount of time.

Jen K said...

Someone somewhere had mentioned Hannah and her migraines and made a joke that maybe it was because of her hair.

That's funny because I also had long hair that was pulled back a lot as a kid and I also developed migraines at the same time. I also learned I needed glasses, so it all seemed to be connected.

But what seems really interesting is a passage from Jon and Kate's official website (in the Q and A section), and forgive me if this has been posted already, but she writes:

"When did you decide to cut your hair short?
When I met Jon, my hair was long. It got a tad shorter after I had the girls and then went even shorter once I had the six. I have extremely thick hair so when it was long (back in the day) it gave me headaches because of the weight…unlike Jon (ohh honey, I am so sorry, but I just have to say this) I am told by my hairdresser that I will never go bald!! Yeah!!"


Interesting....give the kid a haircut maybe! :)

Naseem said...

I really hope Mady did not get a spanking when they got home. I feel so bad for her and the rest of the children. And to think I used to admire Kate now I can't stand her.

Leesehere said...

http://www.maschemiracles.com/presscoverage.htm

If this is successful..bye bye kon
Looks like a "different family"! time will tell?

AnneMarie said...

My theory on Kate, and it's only a theory, is that having worked in the Labour and Delivery Field, she knew what kind of questions would be asked of her by doctor's when seeking Fertility Intervention, AND what answers to give.

How long have you been actively trying?
How are your cycles?
Temps?
Blah blah blah.

Whether she obtained the meds herself, which she would know the effects of, or whether she went against doctor's orders and had sex with hyper stimulated ovaries, is moot. She's still a crappy example to parenthood.

That said, I'm going to go play Lego's with my son.

Karen said...

Something I found on YouTube:

A young child reenacts Kate's meltdown at Disney: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9RQAj-5he-Y&feature=related

timetogokon said...

Targetgirl :

Great minds think alike (well, kinda).

I was at Target just yesterday ( you know, one of those I-only-need-a-few-things-but-end-up-spending-$100 trips). Anyway, I have used Tide my entire adult life, but instead purchased Purex, which several posters on the PG Brandsaver site recommended as a good alternative because it is much cheaper but still cleans very well.

I actually had a Tide coupon that I did not use. I will send it, along with my Purex receipts to Mr KMart himself.

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Interesting....give the kid a haircut maybe! :)


***or, maybe get rid of all the bright, harsh studio lighting ?

abc said...

I see a lot of comments on the work Kate has had done. My question is why would a young woman in her early 30's have so much done? It makes her look harsh and a lot older than she is. If I did not know her age, I would say she is a woman in her mid
40's.
I don't consider her very feminine, and she seems to be trying too hard.
Also I guess she had never been told "Pretty is ...is pretty does."

Sue said...

Can you tell me what HOM stands for? Thanks!

Peg said...

Suzy-Q said...
It irritates me when I hear the interviews with Kate saying that no one goes into fertility treatments thinking they may get six babies. I have fertility issues and that was the first thing I told my doctor - "I don't want to end up with six babies!" I have PCOS as well and luckily I responded very well to Metformin and was pregnant within 2 months. I had to go to three different doctors to get my diagnosis though. They didn't even want to test me for PCOS until I had been trying to get pregnant for a year (even though my cycles were all over the place). So after all the trouble I had getting a simple blood test to show the PCOS I had suspected, I find it highly suspicious that Kate was able to get get much more serious fertility treatments in such a short amount of time.

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My DIL went through the same thing . She had to enter into a University hospital study for the diagnosis and treatment with Metformin for PCOS. They had to be trying for at least a year to conceive on their own before fertility treatment was started. I now have 1 grandson.

My sister was also a nurse at one of the major University infertility clinics. She said it is a standard requirement that a couple try to conceive for 1 year before fertility treatment is considered.

Something in Kon's story seems off to me.

Marie France said...

Sue said...
Can you tell me what HOM stands for? Thanks!

Higher Order Multiples

I love my son! said...

Dee said...

Hey Dee, I previously posted on a different thread a while ago what Kate used as her excuse not to go on the boys' day out.

Kate stated she wanted to give Jon and the boys a chance to do some male bonding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yoYaetcquA&feature=PlayList&p=FCDA09A5454A217B&index=61

I'm Just Say'n said...

I am new here, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me why we don't see Beth or Aunt Jodi anymore. I thought Beth and Kate wrote the book together and were Best BUD'S. Shouldn't they be promoting the book together? And I can't remember seeing Aunt Jodi since the gum issue. I would have thought they would have went with them to Hawaii as well..... Do they have any friends anymore?

kateisaWHACKjob said...

timetogokon said...

Targetgirl :

Great minds think alike (well, kinda).

I was at Target just yesterday ( you know, one of those I-only-need-a-few-things-but-end-up-spending-$100 trips). Anyway, I have used Tide my entire adult life, but instead purchased Purex, which several posters on the PG Brandsaver site recommended as a good alternative because it is much cheaper but still cleans very well.

I actually had a Tide coupon that I did not use. I will send it, along with my Purex receipts to Mr KMart himself.

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Please don't use PUREX. I used it for a year because it was considerably cheaper but my clothes became horrendously horrendous. The color has faded considerably even though I wash them inside out and don't put them in the dryer. I use Tide now but there are other brands available, but please don't use Purex.

I wished I had Mady's guts when I was younger. I am not condoning what she did because she did embarrass her mother in front of everyone but I can see where the anger is from.

Mady did mention the spanking because I think she is used to it. It's just that they don't show it on the episodes and I think the cameras catch them it's just they don't air them out. I like how Kate was not able to talk back. She was quite for a while.

I bet if Jon just have the balls to talk back Kate wouldn't belittle him so much. I think Kate is really a coward deep inside.

kateisaWHACKjob said...

I meant quiet not quite in the last post.

Here's the link to the video again:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

The kids were saying they want to go home, then Kate says "NOPE"

I thought they are not forced to do filming if they don't want to?
It is OBVIOUS they do not want to be there. What purpose do they serve there anyway? Kate's PROPS? To prove that she has the right to give the California woman TIPS?

She did say anyway that the first day, first week, first six months were a BLUR because the tups were DISTRACTING?

Kate can't admit it that she survived those times because of the helpers and she just sleeps through the night even when one of the tups cried.

What a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE.

shmedelle said...

I may be a little slow.....would someone please inform me. What does HOM stand for? Something about fertility?

marypoppins said...

My sister was also a nurse at one of the major University infertility clinics. She said it is a standard requirement that a couple try to conceive for 1 year before fertility treatment is considered.
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Thanks, i have wondered about this.-whether there were ruls/regulations
Jand K were so young and were newlyweds. I would have thought that someone in their position would have been encouraged to try on their own a while longer.

I also think that a couple should have at least a year or so as a married couple before kids. I think it helps the relationship JMO.

Also, I would have though that Jon going to school would have been more of priority before children.

ThreeFarmers said...

I honestly wonder how many more women in this country are pregnant with 6+ babies. It used to be that there was a lot more media attention because they were so rare, but now then seem to occur a couple times a year.

It will be interesting to see if more regulations are placed on the fertility industry. Particularly since the California woman seems to be in no position to financially care for the 6 she already has let alone the 8 she recently delivered.

Will be interesting.

ATLdad said...

OK, let me get this straight...

A ministers daughter in Pennsylvania, herself, a registered nurse and a self proclaimed God squad member, married an IT guy who was the son of a local dentist. Sounds like a stable, successful union of 2 hard working, over achievers destined to carve out their piece of the American pie, right?

Well, after a few months of middle class bliss, and a shady diagnosis, the couple decided to skip the whole "God's will" thing and get themselves some fertility treatments. The result; twin girls.

A few months go by and again, no time for the whole "wait for God's miracle", we want us some more babies. "More expensive, dangerous fertility treatments please." (understood better if whined)

Bada bing, 6 kids, all preemies, major headlines!

I live in Atlanta and I remember the story. Almost from the second the placentas hit the floor, the Mom was asking for....stuff.

It started with ice in those little hospital cups, an extra towel, can I take home the robe? I need car seats, I don't have enough bibs. Get me some slippers!

The adorable Pennsylvania hamlet, the beaming Grandfather's congregation and the entire state rallied behind the young couple and saw to it that babies were fed, laundry was done, floors were vacuumed and bills were paid.

(Bills paid? hey wait, we might be onto something here, baby daddy! get in here!)

Tons of diapers, donated. Groceries measured by truckloads, donated. Clothing, donated.
State Medicaid paid for a home nurse for a year. Pennsylvania set up college funds and the Governor himself took the time to task his subjects; give and give often, let it be decreed!

Now, we're all good up to this point, I can even get over the whole "skip God's will and pump me full of chemistry" thing. Those babies were awful cute! and hey, at least the young couple were happy and appreciative of the sacrifices and love offerings, right?........screeeeech

No, the nurse should stay longer than a year, like forever. The tuition's should be comped, the renovation of the tidied home was horrendously horrific. The house was too small, and we need a van. Family members were cast aside for failing to understand the needs of this, now famous, clan of 10.

(famous?, hey wait a minute)

The IT guy, well about this time he got fired, so I guess the former IT guy, set up a family website. Adorable pictures of the babies, favorite scriptures and oh yea, this is what we need; cash, and wal-mart/target gift cards, you know for our basic needs (go back up and read about the part where I said about the stuff they got).

(hey, don't forget about the damn van!)

Sure would make a neat story, you know one of those documentaries; Babies screaming, want'n stuff, throwing tantrums. Strangers handing them toys. I said BABIES doing that, get up and comb your hair!

Anyway, Discovery sends a crew up there and does a one-off, peak into a day or two of the harried life of, well, by now a pretty comfortable unemployed baby momma and her awkward, frightened son/husband.

(OMG, look at the hits on this site, did you check the mail today? my God is an awesome God!)

IT guy got a new job with the state! amazing!

Of course we'll do more shows, in fact we'll move into a bigger house. In fact in the new house we'll let you put in permanent lighting fixtures so you can film...alot.

(Ted Danson got how much?)

Trips, vehicles, plastic surgeries, dental procedures, free food, volunteers, more trips, more clothes.

But at least the lady is happy, appreciative and treats her family with respect.....screeeeech

Snarking, sniping, yelling, hitting, correcting, degrading, bemoaning.

I work the hardest, I'm the smartest, I'm in control. organic only. I do lists!

(lets see.. I should have a human element to be relatable, I know, I'll have OCD, yea, a clean freak! that's a really cool malady)

OK, after 4 years, the website keeps asking for stuff, the Ted Danson money is getting closer, corporate sponsors; kmart, juicy juice, tide, etc... ready to cash in on the whole, mombie, OCD thing, line up and the ladies hair gets oddly striped?

(but wait, we cant keep asking for wal-mart cards, kmart will be pissed. I know, lets do the whole tammy faye church thing, they'll totally pay us! just ixnay on the whole fertility thing, we still need a van!)

The website wish list gives way to speaking engagement lists. (hey, leave the link there, just in case we have a repeat giver) A speaking fee, a love offering or 2 and for $20.00 (cash!) you can take a picture with the IT guy.

Well, ok, now the Christian element would surely grounds the dysfunctional duo, right?.....screeech!

(honey, I don't think I want that job anymore, can I stay home, I'll bring in your coffee, 8ish?)

Hair plugs, tummy tucks, spa days, more trips, more......stuff

(hey, you think that rich lady will write a book for me, I'll be her friend!)

So, after book sales, Danson -like TLC money, speaking fees, appearance fees, yada freakin yada....

(this house is too small and the neighbor looked at me today, society must do something about this!)

1.1 million, 1.3 million, does it matter? The unemployed (our show is our life our life is our show), surgically altered couple move up to the east side, a deeluxe mansion in the skyyye.

So, on a day when 71,000 Americans lost jobs, what does TLC air? 30 minutes of this ungrateful, spiteful woman pretending to clean a built-in double refrigerator while her 4 year olds randomly poop and ask for help wiping. The former IT guy mumbles past on his way to his "outbuildings", apparently searching for his spine.

(he cant keep up with anything) she say's as she stares at him through the albino zebra bangs.

Well?, do I have the gest of it? I've only seen one episode.

Diane said...

I don't know if this comment will actually get posted but iTunes has a free episode of Jon and Kate + 8 entitled 'Meet Jon and Kate'.

Please, lets not start downloading their shows from itunes. There have been so many discussions here about how boycotting the show doesn't matter unless you have a Nielsen box, which ITA with. However, things like purchasing their books, viewing episodes on TLC.com, or on iTunes are definitely trackable (countable) and I'm sure convince TLC to believe J&K is fabulous and popular.

rjm said...

In the upcoming episode Kate is opening the door and says "Welcome EVERYONE in the WHOLE world, come in". Does she really thing EVERYONE in the WHOLE world is watching this fiasco?

freedom of the press said...

ATLdad

You sure do. Bravo, kudos, and all that jazz.
It's great to have a man's POV.
How KON has the audacity to proclaim themselves Christian (and the sheeple who swallow their swill) is beyond comprehension. I think Kate took the lessons she learned growing up as a PK and elevated them to new heights. This grifter knew exactly what she was doing."Who are we to say no" GAG ME.

Jen K said...

ATLDad....

Yep, that pretty much sums it up! :) Brilliant!

And the thing is, there is nothing in that summary that isn't factual. Well, except for maybe Ted Danson. LOL

wipethatsmuglookoffurface said...

While Kate was "working" do all the interviews..giving her insight and wisdom about raising multiples...Where was Jon? He probably scheduled himself to be snowboarding!!!

Gina said...

Does anyone know if Kate is a LPN or a RN?

Jen K said...

Does anyone know if Kate is a LPN or a RN?


She's an RN, which in most markets means she could make some very good money even working just part-time.

Penn State mom said...

My daughter, a student at Penn State's main campus told me that Jon will be speaking on campus on Saturday, Feb 7. Here is what the announcement says: Jon Gosselin will be speaking about his experiences as the father of twins and sextuplets, and as the host of TLC's hit show Jon and Kate plus Eight. He will also be addressing the issue of being Asian American in today's society, and the experiences and the difficulties that he has overcome.

THE USE OF ANY RECORDING DEVICE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.

This event is for PSU students and faculty only. You must present your ID at the door. Attendance is Free. You must be a PSU student because this event is fully funded by UPAC, which is from tuition money.

My daughter told me that many students have stated that they think that what Jon & Kate are doing is poor parenting since they do not know how this publicity & show will effect the tups teen years and beyond. Some students have questioned how they can afford the new house and why they didn't support Penn State Hershey Children's Hospital Four Diamond Fund,which is a BIG thing at Penn State since they hold a HUGE dance Marathon known as THON -- the country's largest student philanthropy (last year they raised over $6 million). The Four Diamonds Fund provides for ALL families no matter insurance or income with money to help care for their children afflicted w/ cancer. St. Jude's is a great cause, but Hershey provided them with so much when Kate was there & the tups were born, why wouldn't they support a cause that was in their backyard?

I am upset that tuition monies are being used to support the Gosselins--we pay a high premium for our daughter to attend Penn State (we are out of state) and this family is using others college funds to support their lifestyle!

Believe me, I am going to start a letter writing campaign and complain to all who have anything to do with the University & tuition!

CatWoman said...

see a lot of comments on the work Kate has had done. My question is why would a young woman in her early 30's have so much done? It makes her look harsh and a lot older than she is. If I did not know her age, I would say she is a woman in her mid
40's.
I don't consider her very feminine, and she seems to be trying too hard.
Also I guess she had never been told "Pretty is ...is pretty does."

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I thought the same thing. If she is indeed in her EARLY 30's..why all the need for "work?" She looked just fine "before!" What UNethical Doctor is doing work on her THIS time?? (inference intended)
I am in my "mid forties" BTW;;;what are women in thier mid-40's "supposed to" look like? LOL but hey, my skin is great and no one can guess my age. / Soooo, for a women who truly IS in her 30's, I cant imagine the NEED for work. Oh yes, but these are the KONartists who got tummy tuck (I couldve used one a COUPLE of times), and hair plugs...
Just sayin'. And yes I am JEALOUS, or as the Kate-Proppers would say "Your Just Jeluss" ROLMAO love the grammar of those sheeple.

Patti said...

After watching the interview video, I have to say I have a newfound understanding and admiration for Mady. She's got a high-IQ, she's insightful and articulate, and she has tremendous integrity and honesty that she refuses to compromise no matter what the cost and sacrifice. No wonder she and Kate are permanently at odds, they're polar opposites in all those respects.

Mary said...

Penn State Mom said:

He will also be addressing the issue of being Asian American in today's society, and the experiences and the difficulties that he has overcome.
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This is just getting absolutely ridiculous! Now they are trying to make money by using his heritage as a topic for speaking engagements. They are getting desperate.

I am sensing there is a strategy here to get them back into the good graces of Berks County. This is the second engagement I know of in Berks County that has recently been scheduled. Both are low key and I think they are doing this to see how Berks County will react to them. I noticed they didn't dare try it with Kate first. Both of the engagements are with Jon.

If you get an address at Penn State I will be glad to write to them and give them my opinion.

Sue said...

HOM = Higher Order Multiples

ShellysFedUp said...

Metformin is a generic for Glucophage which is a Type 2 Diabetes drug. (I know because I take it) Can anyone explain to me how it would help with PCOS?

wramblinwreck said...

Penn State mom, did the announcement include which campus is hosting the event, and the building/auditorium it will be held in, and the time it's scheduled? As you know, Penn State has several locations in PA. I'm asking because I checked the Penn State Events calendar for Feb. 7 and nothing is listed for an appearance by Jon. Thanks for any additional info you can provide.

One Time said...

ATLdad,

Brilliant!

lisak said...

ATL dad...
LOL! That comment was great. You did get it right and then some.

Elena said...

ShellysFedUp said...
Metformin is a generic for Glucophage which is a Type 2 Diabetes drug. (I know because I take it) Can anyone explain to me how it would help with PCOS?

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One of the symptoms/effects of PCOS is insulin resistance. Metformin allows us to process insulin properly, thereby reducing some of the PCOS symptoms. It's been used successfully to help regulate cycles and allow pregnancy to occur. It also helps to alleviate weight gain and hirsutism. The degree it helps vary.

I had to go to an endocrinologist to get a blood workup to verify my diagnosis and monitor the effect. I started out at 500 mg per day, but was bumped up after a year to 1000. I have been taking it for the last six years. These have been the only six years in my life that I have had monthly cycles without taking bc pills. I am 48 years old.

BC pills are often used to help with PCOS symptoms as well. Another problem with PCOS is excess testosterone. This is what causes male-pattern balding and hirsutism. The additional estrogen provided by the pills helps counterbalance this. I had to stop taking the pills at 42. Even though I was/am a non-smoker, I still had a pulmonary embolism. I was incredibly lucky as most of the time a pe is diagnosed during the autopsy. This is a rare, but real side effect of bc pills.

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