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Tangerina Tanya said...

I really feel that if Jon and Kate Gosselin were to have remained kind,simple and more gracious folks then perhaps the public would not be so harsh on them.I saw Jim Bob and Michelle Dugger on THE VIEW today and they both seemed to glow.They are sweet and kind people unlike J/K ....ALong a whole different line.....THE GIRLS PLAY MOMMIE........Did anyone hear what Mady had to say at the table? It really sounded like she rattled off Korean.Kudos to her if she did. Can anyone help me out on this one? I have asked before.

Cindy said...

When Kate stood at her Queendom announcing that "All this is mine as far as the eye can see" Do you think that T.L.C put her up to that of do you think that QFI did all that on her own just to psssss
us off?

alana said...

Cindy said:

...of do you think QFI did all that on her own just to pssss us off?

Oh, Cindy?

Time to give it a rest, sweetie; me thinks you've jumped too far into Gosslinland! It's A NETWORK COMMERCIAL and they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to make - sometimes take days to film, waiting for the right weather outside, etc. etc.

Even IF regular people (irregular, in Kate's case) could pay to make their own commercials, do you think Kate would put out her OWN money to do this? No way. There's one thing I almost believe about the Gosslins. Jon is always saying either directly, like during interviews, or indirectly, like when he uses a variety of false names to post on various anti-Gosselin blogs:

"People! People, we don't care what you say about us! We know we're doing a good job of raising our kids and doing our show people. And people, you can spew all the hate you want and people it won't bother us at all because people, people LOVE US."

Cindy, I almost believe they are not interested in "psssssing" us off; they're too busy spending money, arguing about money, and trying to make more money.

Dirty Laundry said...

If Kate has a house warming party I'll bring the cupcakes and gum.

notakatefan said...

notafanofkate...
I know I know I totaly agree about the Duggars and Tanya I dont have that episode saved "twins play mommy" So I don't remember what she said at the table sorry... and Cindy guess what, I looked up the new house and it is not even in there name which I know celebs usualy have some one in "trust" have it in there name , like a lwa firm etc... But it is funny, I know it's theres technicaly.. But it really belongs to the kids since they work for it!!! I am just so worried about them.

Cheryl B said...

I never thought in a million years that something QFI did would effect me on a personal level, but it has. When I read she was going to be at the IN home show.

My husband is a sales mgr. for a outdoor power co. He travels and covers several states including IN. He has had a booth at the IN home show. However, his company has had a freeze on travel and cut way back on the shows they are in due to the economy.

I ask my husband if he had ever seen this type of a d-list con artist at one of thsese shows. His anwser was yes, the carnival barkers in the middle of the isles with mic. headphones hocking sham-wows. I went to their website and read that Sara Snow is going to be there.

My husband has traveled in this industry his adult life. When my daughter was born we made the choice that I would be a real SAHM.
That being said, My husband covers several states. I can't count the times when he has driven 4 or more hours to attend something our daughter was in at school or sports
and driven back 4 or more hours into the middle of the night.

So I worry everyday that my husband will be part of a large lay-off in his industry because outdoor power equipment is a luxury in this economy. The KON train keeps chugging.

Barb said...

2 month old quintuplets live in Maryland and need help. Do you suppose Jon and Kate have any newborn items to give or did they sell it all?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/22/AR2009012203995.html?hpid=artslot

MsPeabody said...

Cindy said...
When Kate stood at her Queendom announcing that "All this is mine as far as the eye can see" Do you think that T.L.C put her up to that of do you think that QFI did all that on her own just to psssss
us off?


I think that is just Kate being Kate. If she did do it to piss people off, it didn't piss me off, just made her look haughty to her fans. I'm not so sure she has too many fans left anymore, they are all beginning to see what Kon has been about all along.

ThreeFarmers said...

I've been thinking about the notion that J&K are doing things on the show to help fuel the fires of viewers who dislike them.

While I don't doubt that things like having Hannah sit on their laps during the interview or Kate making the stupid comment about "all this is mine...", it makes me wonder about how Jesus feels about J&K using their children for spiteful purposes.

What sort of t-shirt would justify such motives?

concerned said...

This link is worth carrying over to this new thread. it says it all;

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://sixgosselins.com

getablog said...

In regards to J and K saying that they wanted to show curious people what it was like to raise 2 sets of multiples through the show......" GET A BLOG, like the rest of the universe." Seriously, just cancel the show, and blog, pllleeeeeeaaaase?

Onomatopoeia said...

Cindy said...
When Kate stood at her Queendom announcing that "All this is mine as far as the eye can see" Do you think that T.L.C put her up to that of do you think that QFI did all that on her own just to psssss us off?


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I'd bet neither, Cindy. I think she really believes she is now the mistress of this palatial estate and everyone around is there to serve her.

Anonymomma said...

I think she said it on her own. Same thing with the weird T shirts they wear during interviews and the obvious display of Hannah on their lap. No PR person, IMO, would tell them to take the risk. Either way, them doing it shows that not only do they read this blog, but it bothers them. A lot. My mom used to say a guilty concience needs no accuser.

gameover said...

Tangerina tanya said:
I really feel that if Jon and Kate Gosselin were to have remained kind,simple and more gracious folks then perhaps the public would not be so harsh on them.
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Definitely! But, it's mostly Kate and the inconsistencies. When the Roloffs were in Maui, they seemed so grateful and appreciative. Amy actually tears up and says she is not used to people doing things for her after she has room service in her room for breakfast.
In Kate's case, she expects it and it not nice about it at all!!!


Cindy said...
When Kate stood at her Queendom announcing that "All this is mine as far as the eye can see" Do you think that T.L.C put her up to that of do you think that QFI did all that on her own just to psssss
us off?
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I think TLC purposely gave her a bad edit. I think someone asked her about the property and they edited it to make her sound like the greedy bitch that she is. IMO, TLC likes to create the controversy after all it is a freak show channel.
No controversy, no blogs, no chatter and gameover!

MoneyTrail said...

Just read an interesting article about companies that are the next in line to disappear in this recession. Two of them are: Kmart and Ann Taylor. Sponsors beware! Kate Gosselin is the kiss of death.

Disbelief said...

Does anybody have the exact words from Kate's mouth regarding the whole "society has a responsibility to take care of my kids" thing? I've read a few articles about it, and they all are either not from credible sources or are just paraphrasing. I can't help but wonder if her wording has been skewed. I don't know, maybe I'm naive, but I just like to think that Kate would never actually think that way. I like to think nobody would ever think that way. So until I really see what she said, I'm not going to believe it.

livinlavidaloca said...

what is up with the post on the construction loan? on the new house? Someone posted we should check it out...then they disappeared....

Its A Good Thing said...

Dirty Laundry said...
If Kate has a house warming party I'll bring the cupcakes and gum.

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HA! And don't forget decorations that leave little dustlies every where.

Its A Good Thing said...

Barb said...
2 month old quintuplets live in Maryland and need help. Do you suppose Jon and Kate have any newborn items to give or did they sell it all?

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Well they might have some left, and Im sure they would be more than willing to SELL it to the family in Maryland. After all who is Kate not to make money?

In fact she even talks about that in her (Beth's) book Multiple Blessings. She and Nanna Jannet (I believe thats who the other woman was) went through all the donations and what ever Kate didn't like or want instead of giving it back or donating it to somebody else in need she sold it to a consignment shop!

wramblinwreck said...

"I betcha Kon thought they could put the twins to work in projects aside from just their show. I bet they assumed that if they showed these episodes ("Attention casting agents! Hire Cara & Mady!"), the offers would come rolling in & they could make $ off the twins in addition to the tups."

This quote is from the previous Free Discussion thread, and ITA that Kon could have used that episode as a commercial for the twins' availability: "For hire: cute twins girls for modeling, commercials, etc." I can imagine they thought the twins weren't pulling their weight in earning the family income. If they complain about being forced to participate on the show, well then, little girls, you'll just have to find another line of work to earn your keep. Okay, I'm being sarcastic, but it did seem like there was more to it than just a fun day for the twins.

Its A Good Thing said...

concerned said...
This link is worth carrying over to this new thread. it says it all;

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://sixgosselins.com

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Im sorry but I can't seem to get this to work! Maybe its just me but I copy and pasted it into search and all it brought up was GWOP websites. I'll keep trying to find it though. Im wondering if anybody else is having this problem?

Its A Good Thing said...

I think if I were Jon and Kate I would do more to protect my children. All it took was a google search and few quick clicks and I now have not only the address but directions to the new KONPOUND. Im not going to do anything with it because I think if I were close to Kate I wouldn't be able to stop a few choice words from slipping out but if I can find it (and Im not very savvy with computers) any body can.......... Im think child predators or a crazy obsessed fan....

concerned said...

So one of the other blogs related to Yawn and Take posted a piece about "sock puppets" ??? I geuss its about people using different names on the same blog. OK, whats your point?

anyway, the thread got about 25 responses and now watch how the sites hits go away. They just scared off their own posters!

Whats more disturbing?; someone using a different screen name or a moderator of a public blog researching URL's or whatever it is that tracks postings, then calling out the "sock puppets"? (90% of the people that respond to their own blog).

Hey, wait a minute, that sounds like something Take might do!

Its A Good Thing said...

I got the way back machine to work! lol, incase anybody else is having problems, I searched for web archives and then it took me to the way back machine and I typed in their webiste and tada Im there!

Its A Good Thing said...

O MY GOSH!! They actually had a list of what they wanted! And guess what the 15 passenger van is on the list.

How pathetic these people are.

mollybloom said...

I'm thinking it's a good idea to raise awareness of other families with multiples who are attempting to survive the "old fashioned" way--by holding jobs and working. Perhaps the Gosselins would like to offer money and goods on an ongoing basis to these families, who I suspect would be extremely happy to receive them. Doing such good deeds would be charitable (and tax deductible), great PR, and perhaps help assuage some of Jon and Kate's guilt, if there is any. Perhaps some people who give money to the Gosselins would find joy in helping other HOM families. Just saying.

Its A Good Thing said...

Praise List
6 Infant Cars Seats and 2 Toddler Car Seats - Thank you Graco

1 Year supply of diapers, $5K in groceries, Parking space - Thank you Giant Foods

6 High Chairs, 6 Bouncers, 2 Prototype triplet strollers - Thank you Chicco

6 Cribs that turn into beds and layette clothing - Thank you Delta Manufacturing

1 Year supply of baby food, custom engraved spoons, bibs, onesies and $5K Gerber certificates to be used at Giant Foods - Thank you Gerber

Clothing - Thank you Carter's

6 month supply of Huggies diapers for each baby - Thank you Kimberly Clark

Dinners for a week - Thank you Borelli's Resturant

Free photo's and detergent - Thank you Sam's Club

Hershey's Chocolate Baby Announments - Thank you Carson Industries

Desitin - Thank you Pfizer

Clothing - Thank you Ann Gettes Clothing

Clothing and toys - Thank you Boscov's

We would like to sincerely thank all of you for your prayers, support and donations made through Calvary Bible Fellowship Church.

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This is from the way back machine that another commenter so kindly posted. Im wondering if the baby announcements donated by Carson Industries is the same Carson and Beth and Bob? Im thinking it is.

Its A Good Thing said...

I just realized that they began exploiting their children before the tups were even born. Kate was pregnant when Jon started that website. I know I wouldn't post numerous photos of my children on the web for all to see.

cheryl said...

There's a few homes for sale in the e'town area. May take awhile.

concerned said...

and on those archives dont fail to notice that despite all of these "offerings" (food, diapers, monogrammed baby spoons, etc.) that for 4 years the gosselins continued to ask for monatery donations and (and this is the kicker) walmart or target cards "to meet our basic needs"

Virginia said...

I do believe what was posted here about Jon, posting under another name, saying basically screw you, people, we've got ours and we don't care how we got it or how we spend it or what you think. I do believe he (and she, of course) have that attitude.

On the other hand, Jon is an obviously insecure man married to a woman who will cut him very little slack in any way. So he has to have a bad picture of himself. He appears to have no male friends. Don't you think he's embarassed to know that any man in the U.S. who has heard of him has heard what a wimp, a loser, a taker he is? Wouldn't any man be humiliated to know that others had seen his wife beat him down on a regular basis?

Maybe the only "men" who will be in his company without laughing at him are the 15 year old kids on the slopes. They don't watch this show, the guys, for sure. And so maybe to those 15 year old guys he is a big shot, has a lot of money and speaks to them on their own level.

Jon, that will go away. Those 15 year old boys will grow up. You, I'm guessing, have decided not to grow up. We, the people, don't give a rat's ass whether you care what we think or not. We don't care about you or Kate. We care about the kids. You and Kate are just so irritatingly in-your-face with your con that we feel compelled to comment so that any poor slob who is giving you money might get a clue.

nc resident said...

Disbelief said: So until I really see what she said, I'm not going to believe it.


She was quoted in a local paper saying that.

From yesterday's Patriot News- 5/8/05

"Kate Gosselin said she feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births."

Arabella said...

""I betcha Kon thought they could put the twins to work in projects aside from just their show. I bet they assumed that if they showed these episodes ("Attention casting agents! Hire Cara & Mady!"), the offers would come rolling in & they could make $ off the twins in addition to the tups.""

See this for me is where I think kate isn't that smart. IF she wanted to get the twins into something professionally she'd have to deal with that little thing called CHILD LABOR LAWS. They have very strict rules about length of time for shooting, etc. PLUS unlike kate who thinks that if it's meant to be apparently these productions will just come to them, think again. Being in commericals, etc. would require some effort on the parents part and travelling where it wouldn't be kate getting her precious behind kissed. I remember when they did the mady/cara go to a casting agent and kate blew it off as "we don't have time for this but if someone comes to us for something, sure!". Yeah that's not how Hollywood works. You have to pursue it more then just sitting back and waiting for it to come to you.

notakatefan said...

hayleigh said...
Is anyone or organization helping out this family? Is there a place where we can send a donation of money or clothing? As we are always complaining about KON why don't we start by helping this family out? Down the road there medical expenses, etc is going to overwhelm them. Any takers?

I pasted this from another thread on this site and I wondered had anyone decided what to do. My offer still stands for the Van Houstens.They have multiples with disablities and live in michigan Hamilton I beleive, anyway I think this is a great idea and I know from the article posted there that when there multiples reached 5 years, which they have this month ,they were losing a clothing allowence of $600.00 and probubly some other stuff..I will be willing to organize what I can and even drive it to there newspaper office. As I stated I live in ohio and the drive to MI is not that far. I will not go to there house because I beleive in respecting there privacy, and the newspaper can distribute to them for us. Please let us all consider helping a truly deserving family who has not even asked for it and has no cable and has never even seen Yawn and Take plus 8. Take did however visit Amy Van Housten. Wasnt that nice of her excellence?? Wonder if she showed Amy new pictures of her new KOM-pound after all it's "her's for as far as your eyes can see"

Glenda said...

I FINALLY saw the episode where Jodi gave the kids gume the other day. Oh my word talk about heartbreaking to watch. What was she thinking when she was telling them she was going to throw away the comfort bear? It was a small amount of gum!! Then when she called Jodi and was being IMO self righteous when in the beginning of the episode she said 'They had spend WAY to much time over at Aunt Jodi's because of all the special days' Goodness Kate how about a little sympathy for Jodi how has had to watch your 7 other kids while you take one out? I also thought it was sad when Madi was listing reasons why she enjoyed the day 'Because I didn't have to talk over everyone else' 'mommi and daddy actually listened to me' I feel even more sorry for those kids after watching that episode...

Sidney said...

I think identical twins might have had more of a chance of securing modeling jobs than Kate's twins. They don't look alike and are not even the same size. Even identical twins would have to have lots of talent and lots of cuteness and sparkle to be considered for those types of jobs.

MomInTX said...

Virginia-
That's a great point! No, Jon doesn't seem to have any male friends and no man on earth would want to take his place on that couch! Someone posted something about Jon should be getting worried as there was an Asian camera guy on the film crew, and I thought, "Yeah right! No way would another man volunteer to be with Kate! She shows how ugly she is to Jon every week!" I used to feel sorry for the guy, but if he doesn't have enough brains to stand up to her, then it's his own fault. Can you imagine if the roles were switched and it was Jon yelling at Kate and belittling her every week? Jeez-people would be screaming for his blood! Yet, it's Kate and everyone says she's just stressed. Please!

MomInTx said...

That's a pretty fancy website for a family with such a vast array of needs!

Cindy said...

Dirty Laundry and Its A Good Thing,
Very funny and witty comments.

pcos info said...

This is some quoted info from Jon himself from 2005

"Hey. People we don't write the articles. Make sure you have all the facts before you comment. Also do you believe everything you read in the newpaper or see on television. Do you believe everything on the internet? Also the Pittsburgh article is from a columnist not a journalist big difference. Until you walked in our shoes don't tell us anyhting about your life. You must compare apples and apples. The State made us promises and then took them away. How would you feel if you depended on something and it was taken from you? At the last minute. No planning. I think people should realize what is happening. Most people stand idly by and watch and never ask. So don't sterotype us. That's just plain ignorant. The media will make us out to who they want us to be. Lets remember the care is for my six kids not for the twins or my wife and I. Let me tell you its a scary thing putting privacy out there. You can't hide someone will always find you. You have to weigh the whole situation. Finally, I will do everything and anything for my family especially my kids.

Posted by: Jonathan at May 20, 2005 01:34 PM

More BS Jonathan. The bottom line is you're asking for a handout when you clearly don't deserve one. You're no different than anyone else with a large family. Maybe it's time you realized that. You cant hang on to your 15 minutes forever. It's over - now move on.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 20, 2005 01:47 PM

hey. Why are you Anonymous? Whats to hide.

Posted by: Jonathan at May 20, 2005 01:50 PM

Because I don't want you to know who I am; that's what anonymous means.
And why are you playing on the Internet when you should be working to support your family of 10?

Posted by: Anonymous at May 20, 2005 02:10 PM

Get back to work, instead of spending our tax dollars surfing the 'net.

Posted by: Anonymous 2 at May 20, 2005 02:16 PM"


I love the part about going back to work instead of surfing the internet lol.


http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/here_we_go_agai.html

Tangerine Tanya said...

Kate doesn't know if Aaiden is far or near sighted and doesnt know which children are either right or left handed. Perhaps spending some one on one with them would be benificial.She is a nurse right? I wouldn't let her put a bandages on me.

Janice said...

Hi All!
Here's the response I received from Kmart execs to my very STRONG letter against using Kate as spokeswoman. He doesn't sound too concerned about my concerns, does he? His name is Tom Aiello,
(TAIELL1@searshc.com). Everybody write!!!!!

RE: Kate Gosselin as spokesperson‏
From: Aiello, Tom (TAIELL1@searshc.com)
Sent: Thu 1/22/09 6:44 PM
To: JANICE

Hi Janice,


Thank you for your thoughts.


As with Kate as well as all celebrity partnerships, we do a strong review process prior to working with them. I appreciate your thoughts and we will consider them moving forward.


Thank you,

Tom

andrew said...

i just watch give back any one else find it weird that kate said the kids rarely go to stores when THEY DO think about it they what to toy ur us what does she mean rarely

Gina said...

Tangerine Tanya said:

"Kate doesn't know if Aaiden is far or near sighted and doesn't know which children are either right or left handed"


But Kate sure does know who are the girls and who the boys are when it comes to favortism.

wramblinwreck said...

Disbelief wrote:
"Does anybody have the exact words from Kate's mouth regarding the whole "society has a responsibility to take care of my kids" thing? I've read a few articles about it, and they all are either not from credible sources or are just paraphrasing."

The quote is from an article in The Reading Eagle dated May, 2005. This publication is the local newspaper for Reading/Berks County, where the Gosselins were living before they moved to the Andrew Rd. house. You can find it in their online archive under the title "Mother of Sextuplets Faces Loss of Medicaid Funded Nurse." However, you'll have to pay a fee to read the entire article.


"until I really see what she said, I'm not going to believe it."

Remember that the article is about the Gosselins losing their Medicaid-funded nurse after the tups' first year. They were qualified to receive this service for only one year, unless they could prove medical necessity. Unfortunately for the greedy Gosselins, the tups were all healthy, so they couldn't qualify for extended benefits, and that's the context of the following excerpt from The Reading Eagle article (the exact words):
"Kate Gosselin said she feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births."

ToTheMoonAlice said...

I saw a promo on The Animal Planet about a show on skunks...danged if Kate's striped "do" doesn't make her look like a bleached-blond Pepe la Pew!

timetogokon said...

Tangerine Tanya-

I am Korean(Jon is an absolute disgrace to all Koreans btw) and if I see the epi, I will listen extra closely to Mady at the table.

Also, in the episode where Kate took the kids to the doctor, Kate didn't even know the results from Aaden's last eyesight test. Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

Janet B said...

She's in my neck of the woods today for a book signing. Who would have thought she'd make it to Texas?

Cindi said...

Andrew,
Just one of Kate's many contradiction's.

overwithKON said...

Dirty Laundry said...
If Kate has a house warming party I'll bring the cupcakes and gum.

ROFPMP!!!! Thank you for that laugh!

Anonymomma said...

That is the direct link to the actual article that Kate is quoted as saying it's society's responsibilty to help them. You won't have to pay to read it. I am also searching for the article that states KON calling the reporter back and demanding he retract what they said.

There is also several peices out there about how Kate flipped out while unknowingly still being recorded for a TV show that came in and donated time, materials, and services to rennovate their Wyomissing home. And I believe someone posted a recent link to tripletconnection.com where you can read Jon's posts about how people who participate in Extreme Makeover Home Edition should be aware that they will have to pay taxes on the work done, and he was quite upset over the fact that he and Kate had to when her family's church contacted the show who helped them in Wyomissing.

There's a LOT of information out there about these two peices of work. All you have to do is google it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400462/posts

Its A Good Thing said...

timetogokon said...
Oops, forgot to add one more thing:

This morning, I had my appt to get "fitted" for Invisalign. Several molds and lots of x-rays were taken of my mouth. For one series of x-rays, I had "spreaders" for lack of better term, used to obtain the most open and unobstructed view of my entire mouth. It was uncomfortable, and the first thing I thought of was the All Smiles episode where Mady had to wear the same thing AND be filmed.

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I also have invisalign and when I saw the footage of Mady all I could remember was how I felt so exposed. It was slightly painful and super embarrassing! I feel so bad for poor Mady, the whole world saw all her teeth problems AND her parents made fun of her.

concerned said...

I've read the post from jon on tripletconnection where he complains about getting a 1099. He also cleverly attached an adorable pic of his kids and a link to his site where they soicited cash donations and walmart and target cards, you know, for their most basic needs.

Anonymomma said...

The other article, in it's entirety:

Bearing The Cost Of Child Bearing
By John Grogan

Inquirer Columnist


When Kate Gosselin finally picks up the phone on the 10th ring, she sounds a little frazzled, and who can blame her?

From the background come the cries, shrieks and whoops of babies. Six of them, to be exact.

The Berks County woman once feared she was unable to conceive. Today, thanks to fertility drugs, she has more children than she and her husband, Jonathan, know what to do with. Those would be twin 4-year-old girls followed by the sextuplets, who turned 1 on May 10.

Gosselin's supercharged fertility is miraculous in its own right, a testament to the wonders - and pitfalls - of modern medicine. She has rocketed into the public spotlight, however, not for her baby-making prowess but for her insistence that she cannot mother alone.

The harried mom wants help - and she wants taxpayers to pick up the tab.

Because the fragile babies were born prematurely, Medicaid paid to provide a skilled home nurse 30 hours a week. But the babies are now robust, and Medicaid pulled the plug this month on paying for the nurse the Gosselins have come to rely on as "a second mommy."

Special circumstances

The couple, who live in Wyomissing, have appealed that ruling, and on Thursday the mother will argue that her special circumstances - eight little ones and a husband who is gone 12 hours a day for his state-government job 90 minutes away in Harrisburg - merit taxpayer help. The state continues to pay for nurse Angie Krall while the appeal is pending.

"We did not ask for sextuplets. We wanted one last baby," Gosselin tells me, quickly adding that she loves all six beyond words. "We took the risk and we lost."

As you might imagine, her request has not gone over well. Angry letters have popped up in newspapers across Pennsylvania. Gosselin, a registered nurse, knew the risks of taking fertility drugs. Even after delivering twins on the first go-round, she rolled the dice again. And now she wants the state to pay for her gamble?

"People are very harsh to us, and I understand that," she says. "But until you walk exactly in my shoes and know my day-to-day life, it is very difficult to imagine..."

I want to sympathize with her. Every parent knows how demanding and exhausting even one baby can be. But the more she talks, the more I find her to be inflexible.

I agree with her that she can't do it alone, but I ask why she needs an expensive skilled nurse instead of a basic child-care helper. Her only explanation is that she and the children have bonded with their nurse, and she'd hate to change now. She concedes the children no longer require specialized nursing care, and adds, "On Jon's income, we couldn't afford to pay someone even $6 an hour."

Paying for child care?

And that leads to another question. If money is so tight, why doesn't she return to work and enroll the children in day care? Nope. The family minivan cannot carry all eight children in one trip, and the couple can't afford a bigger van, she says. Besides, "I would be taking my paycheck and giving it to the day care." Welcome to the world of working parents.

She says family members live too far away or are too busy to help, and the stream of volunteers that came in the early months compromised the family's privacy. "There is no one," she says definitively. "I have racked my brain."

I have one other idea for her. The couple's house has about $100,000 of equity in it, she has estimated. Why don't they take out a loan to pay for the nurse themselves, just as parents do to pay for tuition or orthodontics? She doesn't want to do that, either.

She promises she wants Medicaid to pay for the nurse for only one more year, and by then the couple will be able to handle their brood on their own.

Obviously, society has a vested interest in making sure these eight children - all children - are properly nurtured. The question is whether taxpayers should be expected to take on a couple's burden. And if so, which couples, and for how long?

There are no easy answers, only an unsettling awareness that parenting, with all its joys and challenges, belongs ultimately to parents.

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This was printed in www.philly.com

Its A Good Thing said...

Good heavens! I just read the article (thanks AnnonyMomma!) I have read other articles about how she expected society to take care of her kids but I had never read one where she openly says she wanted only one kid and the fact that she had six (healthy) babies was considered a loss. That is horrible! The kids can't surf and read the web now but there is no doubt that they will in the future, especially with all the controversy surrounding them, and that article will still be on the web for them to see. Its awful, she is a horrid woman (Kate).


Of course we all know who the favorite is.......

Anonymomma said...

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=106286

OMG LOL you all have got to read this article! I found it by accident searching for KON info.

WAKEUP said...

I have one other idea for her. The couple's house has about $100,000 of equity in it, she has estimated. Why don't they take out a loan to pay for the nurse themselves

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Because even back then they had the same sense of entitlement and it has gotten worse over the years. People actually believe the crap that come out of their mouths. Wake up America and take care of your own children and families.

Mary Wise said...

Anonymomma that was all over the news in our area. The couple was insane and asking for donations, which mind you people gave them. They never produced photos of the babies, just pictures of her alleged pregnancy.

Just goes to show people will fall for anything... including the Gosselins game.

critters13 said...

Because I am in a profession that requires me to deal with the aftermath of sudden death, I feel compelled to address certain issues raised in the ongoing discussions regarding "Joelgate".

The words heartless and cruel have been used to describe Kate Gosselin's decision to place fever-ridden, vomiting Joel on the floor of the laundry room in which the machines were running, then turn off the light and close the door. What she did was far more than heartless or cruel - she endangered that dear little boy's life.

Several of my cases have been infants and toddlers who died because they aspirated their own vomit. It takes instant recognition and an immediate corrective response to prevent death from pulmonary aspiration or asphyxia. With the door closed and laundry machines running, it would be impossible for Kate Gosselin to hear Joel if he aspirated his vomit.

This woman seems to lack the common sense God gave a wart hog. I would be afraid to accept an aspirin and a glass of water from this nurse.

overwithKON said...

"We did not ask for sextuplets. We wanted one last baby," Gosselin tells me, quickly adding that she loves all six beyond words. "We took the risk and we lost."
Quote from Kate.....

yes she was trying to convince someone she still needed the nurse to take care of healthy kids, BUT HUH? They LOST?????? 8, count them 8 healthy kids, and they LOST???? She is so sad, lost, I see such a prize in those gorgeous faces. JMO! =0(

pinkdiamond611 said...

This a.m. the newsradio finance reporter reported that LOCAL ski areas (Northeast) are reporting good business in this economy. The reason being is that skiing is a relatively low cost activity when done close to home. People are not wasting their money flying out to the big fancy Western ski areas any longer due to the economy. I guess Yawn loves to piss away his kids' money.

Bonnie said...

"They say she was seven months into a four-year sentence for felony stealing by deceit."

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So when will Kon be indicted for the same crime?

marypoppins said...

Its A Good Thing said...
I also have invisalign and when I saw the footage of Mady all I could remember was how I felt so exposed. It was slightly painful and super embarrassing! I feel so bad for poor Mady, the whole world saw all her teeth problems AND her parents made fun of her.

_______________________________

She probably won't realsied how she actually looked with it on until she sees the episode.

Which is worse- (1)the fact that her brushing is not supervised properly by her 2 SAH parents- as per close up on the monitor) or
2) how her parents made fun of her teeth

Dirty Laundry said...

I've decided to spend my life rudely correcting other people's grammar. I would have offered earlier but I was too exhausted.

Jennifer said...

If this has been covered already, then I apologize, but I noticed a few weeks ago when I was watching an episode of Little People, Big World, that in the information section where they describe the episode on our satellite dish, it was labeled "documentary". When I checked the description for J&K+* it said "Reality, Health/Medicine, Family" I just thought that it was interesting that TLC was basically saying it upfront that it's a sham. If it wasn't, wouldn't it be listed as a documentary, like LPBW?

I love my son! said...

Anonymomma - Do you know if they ever received the additional year of free nursing? I would love to find out.

Oh and Hey Dirtylaundry, I'll bring the white plastic chairs, organic chips and dip, and the blue shoe covers!

Jen said...

If there was one question I wanted them to answer the other night it was this: "You said in an interview that you would donate everything that was donated to you to other families. Why then do you sell to consignment shops and have yard sales?"

Here is a clip from one of those articles....Jon's words:

"Besides, he said, he and his wife plan to continue the chain of generosity.

'Everything that was donated to us, we will donate back to other multiples or other families in need,' he said."

Answer that one, Jon!

wramblinwreck said...

"That is the direct link to the actual article that Kate is quoted as saying it's society's responsibilty to help them. You won't have to pay to read it."

Anonymomma, the link you posted is not to The Reading Eagle's web site, it's a copy of the article that was saved to a different site (freerepublic). For anyone who doubts that it's the same article that appeared in The Reading Eagle in May, 2005, it's available in their online archive, but as I said earlier, you have to pay a fee to access their archive.

Here's another article from May, 2005, from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review where the reporter questions the Gosselin's request for extending the Medicaid nurse services.

"Eight is Enough" http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_334106.html

From the article:

"The Gosselins called the day after my telephone interview with Kate. They asked to preview this column before publication. My editor declined their request. Kate then said she wanted to retract everything -- even though she admitted all of it was true.
"People are out to make us look bad," she said."

Dirty Laundry said...

I find this show disturbing so I always watch it in the basement.

Cindi said...

critter13,

Your post was a good and informative one to say the least.

Becky said...

Check out what the topic of the sermon series that Kate will be speaking at during church services the weekend of January 31st:

Families at their Best
January 22, 2009

Kate from Jon & Kate Plus 8 Will Visit Willow Creek

Kate Gosselin of Jon & Kate Plus 8, TLC’s hit reality television show, will be interviewed at weekend services on January 31/February 1 as Willow Creek concludes the series Families at their Best. The Gosselins had twin girls in 2000, followed by sextuplets in 2004. As the mother of eight children, Kate is in a unique position to share insights as a busy mom trying to raise godly children.

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Lord, help us all.

CROCKLOAD said...

Kate is in a unique position to share insights as a busy mom trying to raise godly children.


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Godly?? So they go to church every Sunday and raise their children to be good little boys and girls? Do unto others as you would do unto you? Pleasssssssssssssssse!

Anonymomma said...

ILoveMySon!, no, they were denied the extra year at the appeal.

wramblinwreck, thank you, i've been searching for that particular link and couldn't find it.

Tonya said...

"She says family members live too far away or are too busy to help, and the stream of volunteers that came in the early months compromised the family's privacy. "There is no one," she says definitively. "I have racked my brain.""


Hmmmm...I have an idea Kate. Rather than use volunteers that compromise your privacy why don't your televise your life on a national network for money. Yeah that will give you a lot more privacy.

fxfanatic said...

Janice,
I got the EXACT same response. It's a form letter.
Reply again and you MIGHT get a personal response.

no breathing allowed said...

This is the "society owes me" article from the Hbg. paper.

As with the Reading article published at the same time, she had the society bit retracted after the public freaked out.

Her sextuplets are turning 1. Her twins are 4. She is ONE BUSY MOM

Two women face six hungry babies.
Collin Thomas Gosselin is not only hungry, but loud.
Gulping down spoonful after spoonful of baby food, he howls while the spoon is away for refill. His siblings have little choice but to watch and wait.
"Collin is the most laid-back baby in the world until you start talking about food, and then he's the worst," said the babies' mother, Kate Gosselin.
That's probably why Collin, at 22 pounds, remains the biggest of the Gosselin sextuplets, who were born a year ago this coming Tuesday.
The sextuplets were the second set born in Pennsylvania and are among fewer than 30 worldwide. They arrived about eight weeks prematurely, with the biggest weighing about 3 pounds. Now the lightest weighs nearly 18 pounds.
They're progressing at different rates -- one has five teeth while another has none -- but all are healthy and seem to be developing normally, their mother said. Some take steps while supported by furniture.
For their parents, who live in Wyomissing, Berks County, days are long and life poses an evolving assortment of challenges.
"I think it's getting harder because they are more mobile," said Jonathan Gosselin, 28. "I just take it day by day."
The Gosselins also have 4-year-old twin daughters.
Mother's Day is "the same-old same old" said Kate Gosselin. For three months, she said, one of the twins has been telling her she'll get breakfast, lunch and dinner in bed while the twins and their father care for the sextuplets.
But she knows such a break in routine is next to impossible. And the weekend is already busy: Yesterday, they planned to host about 80 people for a birthday party for the sextuplets at a local hall.
Still, Kate Gosselin said, some aspects of life became easier once the sextuplets began holding their own bottles and sleeping through the night.
She's also relieved she no longer has to rely on the stream of volunteers who came and went at nearly all hours during the sextuplets' early months.
She said she was grateful but also felt severely stressed over matters such as the constant need to update volunteers regarding changes in routines, and the loss of privacy. It got so bad she questioned her sanity.
She drew strength by recalling a telephone conversation with Bobbi McCaughey, the Iowa mother of septuplets -- seven babies -- who she said cited dealing with the volunteers and loss of privacy as her biggest difficulties.
Jonathan Gosselin, an information technology specialist, was unemployed for much of last year. In January he went to work for the Governor's Office.
He said their financial concerns have eased, but they still struggle and worry about expenses. The 90-minute commute also means he doesn't get home from work until well into evening.
A new crisis involves Angie Krall, a licensed practical nurse who helped the family for 30 hours a week beginning last fall. Her services are paid for by Medicaid, which Kate Gosselin said provides nursing support for parents of premature babies.
But it only lasts a year, which recently expired. Kate Gosselin is appealing, arguing she can't safely care for eight children alone.
The couple said they can't afford to pay for Krall on their own, and Kate Gosselin refuses to go back to a revolving cast of volunteers.
She said she and Krall have developed a tight routine and the disruption threatens the sextuplets' well-being. "She's fine-tuned and I trust her and we love her," Kate Gosselin said. "She's as good as a parent in this home."
She also believes society has an obligation to help.
The Gosselins used fertility drugs. Modern medicine promotes such drugs, she argued, while downplaying the risk of higher-order multiples, such as sextuplets, which are beyond a family's ability to care for alone.
While selective abortion is offered, the Gosselins rejected that on religious grounds.
Kate Gosselin vowed to fight to keep Krall.
"I will shout from the highest mountain that these are my children and I love them and I need help," she said.
At lunchtime, the sextuplets sit at a table that seats six babies in a half circle. It's designed for day-care centers.
The sextuplets always sit in the same order, with the fastest eaters placed closest to the ends of the half-circle.
The fastest eaters get fed first. It's the most practical way to get through a meal, Kate Gosselin explained.
It takes Krall and Kate Gosselin 45 minutes to feed the babies lunch. They spoon out nine jars of baby food.
Another downside of the Gosselins' situation involves transportation. They need a vehicle large enough to accommodate eight car seats plus supplies for the sextuplets. They can't afford one.
Their only present option is to travel in separate cars. As a result, they rarely go on an outing involving the entire family.
"It's getting really, really old," Kate Gosselin said.
Even routine relationships can be difficult.
Friends and family keep expecting them to "snap out of it" and return to normal, Kate Gosselin explained. She said people have a hard time understanding, for example, that the Gosselins want no phone calls after 9 p.m., when the children are sleeping.
"We're never going to 'snap out' of this. This is our lives. We'll never be normal again," she said.
A good example came during a week of warm evenings in April.
Jonathan got home around 7 p.m., and the family decided to head for the front yard, as they routinely did when they had only the twins.
Gathering all they needed and getting everyone outside proved surprisingly difficult.
Soon the kids were cranky and it was time to go in. Then they had to bathe eight kids.
A seemingly easy endeavor proved highly taxing, and Kate realized it would be a while before they tried it again. Still, the Gosselins constantly point to their faith and trust in God.
And they have plenty of reminders that things aren't so bad.
"I look at six healthy babies and I feel a lot better, because it could be a lot, lot worse," Jonathan Gosselin said.
DAVID WENNER: 255-8172 or dwenner@patriot-news.com
INFOBOX:
ALL IN A DAY'S WORK
30 diapers
16 to 18 jars of baby food
24 bottles of formula (one gallon)
45 minutes for lunch, longer for supper
HEALTHY AND GROWING:
Alexis 2 pounds, 11 ounces at birth; 20 pounds, 2 ounces last month; Hannah 2 pounds, 11 ounces at birth; 19 pounds, 10 ounces last month; Aaden 2 pounds, 7.5 ounces at birth; 17 pounds, 8 ounces last month Collin 3 pounds at birth; 21.8 pounds last month; Leah 2 pounds, 14 ounces at birth; 18 pounds, 6 ounces last month
Joel 2 pounds at birth, 9 ounces; 17 pounds, 12 ounces last month
ON THE WEB
More information about the Gosselins is posted on their Web site: at www.sixgosselins.com

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CORRECTION: Kate Gosselin, the mother of sextuplets, says a story in last Sunday's editions misrepresented her views. She says she doesn't believe "society" is obligated to help her family. She said there should be some "resource," possibly run by a private foundation, to help families who have many children from one pregnancy. "I absolutely do not feel that anybody owes me anything," she says.

Tonya said...

locals have been tired of this couple long before the rest of the country became wise.

I'll Rest When I'm Dead : Count your blessings before your handouts
Dana Hoffman dishes on the craziness of an (un)balanced life as a parent and a professional, as well as some of her obsessions - food, books and travel. She also can't resist the occasional diatribe. Check out the occasional links on parenting and other interests.
Friday, May 06, 2005
Count your blessings before your handouts
I don't even know where to begin about the Gosselin family.

I've frankly had enough. In the front-page story in today's Reading Eagle, the mother Kate used, to quote the story, "a flurry of adjectives to describe the past year -- exhausting, strange, surreal, challenging and scary."

Not one of those words even comes close to being positive. Then, almost as if she realized that just a second too late, she added, "Did I say exciting?"

Later on, she does say, "Look at those beautiful faces, how can't you keep going? They're awesome."
So I guess it isn't all torture.

This family has had an endless outpouring of volunteer hours, money and donations both monetary and of necessary items. But still they ask for more.

Training additional volunteers to help is apparently too much work so they are looking for a $25,000 donation to extend the use of a part-time nurse.

And by saying you are "praying" for something doesn't make it any more holy than it is ... looking for free handouts to be able to manage a life that YOU created. And for that matter, don't seem to be too happy about.

The babies eat donated food and sleep in donated cribs. They stay dry in donated diapers.

The Gosselins seem content to allow everyone else, and even have come to expect everyone else, to pick up the tab for what they knew would be a very high-cost lifestyle choice. The father, Jonathan, didn't even have a job for much of the past year.

The Gosselins used fertility drugs to have their twin daughters, now 4. They again used the drugs to conceive the sextuplets. They had a choice. This wasn’t a natural act, something they could not have controlled.

By saying they didn’t want to reduce the number of children, saying it goes against their beliefs, how do they justify using fertility drugs to achieve such a number in the first place? How is using fertility drugs considered God's will?

And yet the donations kept pouring in. They received a mind-numbing amount of support yet she says she is "praying for just one more year" of help.

I have three children, by choice. To support those three children and have a lifestyle we can be happy about, my husband and I work full-time and he has freelancing on the side which equates to more than a part-time job.

The Gosselins are planning to move to Harrisburg to be closer to Jonathan's job. What about the house they are now in? The one that was renovated by volunteers, using donated money, that made their house liveable for 10 people?

Maybe they should stop worrying so much about where the next handout is coming from, and instead concentrate on their healthy, hopefully happy, children, and be tremendously thankful for what they have received and continue to receive.
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I could not agree more. While I don't have 10 children I do have 2, and both of us again work full time. I have to do the work I have. The generations before us who had 8,9,10 + children did not get food, diapers, vans, a new house, they managed on what they had and had the children for the right reasons- to love and CARE for them. Give me a break; a part time nurse?
COMMENT BY MARIAN AT 5/6/2005 2:47 PM

I could not agree more of what you wrote! I have 2 children, who are both special needs and you don't see me crying the blues for donations. My husband works full time to support us and I stay at home with no help to care for my 2. Yeah 2 children is different to having 10 children, but still imagine if your children were special needs. I've frankly had enough of hearing them cry the blues and then having them talk about how they live off people's donations that is just wrong. Then they had their house renovated and were on a show called Home Delivery TV and Jonathan wanted to say how the show cared nothing about how to care for their sextuplets and just about the ratings and here all they care about is getting people to send in donations so they can live off of them. Urghh, it makes me sick. They knew the consequences when using fertility drugs, it's a very high-cost lifestyle choice so live with it instead of everyone else supporting you. Everyone else has their own family to support. And a part-time nurse, what is that all about?
COMMENT BY AT 5/6/2005 4:41 PM

Please Gosselin family, move to Harrisburg so we can all stop hearing you whine and beg for more. I saw the television program where they got their "new" house and paid very close attention to the expression on the mother's face as she got the grand tour. She looked outraged and disgusted the entire time. No wonder they didn't use any of her comments. All of the manpower and effort that went into the project just wasn't good enough for her.
As the expression goes - you made your ten beds, now ...
COMMENT BY AT 5/6/2005 6:46 PM

There are pages and pages of comments like this.

Ravello said...

Quote upthread -"from he words heartless and cruel have been used to describe Kate Gosselin's decision to place fever-ridden, vomiting Joel on the floor of the laundry room in which the machines were running, then turn off the light and close the door. What she did was far more than heartless or cruel - she endangered that dear little boy's life."

ITA, Joelgate infuraiated me. My son had a febrile seizure at age 3. I was in the kitchen, he was in the adjaent family room on the couch where I could see him. Or who knows what might have happened.

She did not safeguard her son and she did not show him an ounce of love or compassion when he was ill. I have seen the original broadcast (before editing) several times and she was more upset about the soiled comforter.

Cannot imagine she is a nurse. After this show, cannot imagine who would hire her, even with the nursing shortage.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Fellow Poster It's A Good Thing suggested that we have a house warming party for the Gosselins new home and offered to bring a few things as others on this board did also.They are as follows.

It's a Good Thing-Cupcakes and gum

Dirty Laundry- Decorations-Little
dustlies

I love my son-White chairs,organic
chips and blue shoe
covers

Oh and can I bring something?
Can I bring some sippy cups and
bibs? I will be one community
wash cloth and we can all use
the same one to clean up.

Kate already has her "MONEY MUNCH"
But she is NOT allowed to share.

Monica said...

I keep reading so many comments about putting Joel on the laundry room floor while he was sick & vomiting so here are my two cents too.....

I can understand that you would want to keep a sick child away from the others to prevent passing the illness...I have kids -- but only 3 -- so I might not be as qualified as Kate on this one.

I could never imagine doing that though. I have taken every one of my kids to my bed and laid with them while they watched tv, sipped Pedialyte then puked it all up again. I have had towels washing, towels drying, and even more towels getting puked on all at the same time. Isn't that what REAL parents do? My others have had to self entertain with the tv and most times if my husband wasn't home from work I had to juggle each of the kids while washing my hands thoroughly. Maybe even order a pizza cause I didn't have time to cook. Well, maybe I would have had time if I had only put them on the laundry room floor... Hey, I like most of you have even had them all puking at the same time....

I can't believe how she picked up the comforter and smelled it just to add to the drama.

Hello?????

What were you expecting to smell...roses??

But the laundry room floor....with the door closed....that is disgusting. I often wondered how that wasn't something that could be reported to CPS as possible neglect or endangerment.....

Sorry for the ramble, guess it was more than two cents

Tangerine Tanya said...

Ad's for Mommy:

Kate-NO THANKS
Monica-YES PLEASE

Good one Monica.

Joel got the floor when he was sick and Mady got the Kate's bed when she was upset from school.

Anonymomma said...

Does anyone know if there is a link to the video of the TV show that rennovated their Wyomissing house? I'd really like to see Queenie's reaction when they did the unveiling.

Janice said...

fxfanatic said...
Janice,
I got the EXACT same response. It's a form letter.
Reply again and you MIGHT get a personal response.

1/23/2009 2:21 PM

Thanks for the info. I will gladly write again. Oh and I received a form letter from P&G, telling me about all of the "good" they do in the world. We just have to keep writing and hope the number of negatives they receive wakes someone up!

Moons in Leo said...

As another poster mentioned, Kmart and Ann Taylor are just a kiss away from filing Chapter 11.

If Katie Irene hasn't gotten her paycheck from them yet, there probably isn't going to be one.

Four said...

Tangerine Tanya Posted:

Fellow Poster It's A Good Thing suggested that we have a house warming party for the Gosselins new home and offered to bring a few things as others on this board did also.They are as follows.

It's a Good Thing-Cupcakes and gum

Dirty Laundry- Decorations-Little
dustlies

I love my son-White chairs,organic
chips and blue shoe
covers

Oh and can I bring something?
Can I bring some sippy cups and
bibs? I will be one community
wash cloth and we can all use
the same one to clean up.

Kate already has her "MONEY MUNCH"
But she is NOT allowed to share.

1/23/2009 3:00 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I'll bring some glittery christmas ornaments..but only for the girls, boys don't count in that house.

marypoppins said...

Ok what really bothers me is the couch interviews.

When Jon tries to describe a event, she interupts him and says it herself.

When he does get to finish a sentence, she repeats it in her own words

When he protested and says "let me speak" or "im telling it', she looks at camera/producer with this "confused why is he reacting to me like that" look.

He said "pinic lunch" she correct him. Who cares!

Whe asked about the twin girls - she mentions maddy's violin. He tries to bring up maddy's singing, she cuts him off.

On the twins first day of all day school- when Jon tried to say he was the one who got the girls up and dressed- she made a comment-"go ahead tell your public..."

There was an episode where a ball rolled out of the yard and down the street. As Jon ran after it, Kate says to the kids "Daddy wont run away from us today, not while we are looking"
No wonder they had to have a cermenoy in Hawaii to let the kids know that they will be married always!

During the Oprah interview Aaden was leaning over his seat and calling out to "Beff". Without missing a beat or leaning over to gently sush him herself
she orders Jon to see about Aaden.

Last weeks episode she says he has not been to the gym in 2 months. he has to say he has the memebrship card to prove it!!!

I wish she showed some respect when dealing with her husband.

I know some people think they might get divorced but I dont think that would happen-it would make them less MARKETABLE.

justathought said...

This couple reminds me of Jim and Tammy Faye Baker. I remember my elderly grandmother, a widow at the time, watching the PTL shows in the early 80's and sending money she couldnt really afford to those 2 crooks. I was both sad and angry when she did it and especially years later when we all found out how deceitful they had been to thier benefactors.

I truly feel bad for the naive, good hearted Christians who line up to support this generations version of the Bakers.

I suspect, however, that J & K will probably suffer a similar fate, that is almost a given. My concern is what happens to their 8 children?

I love my son! said...

Oh, I almost forgot to bring the dresser drawer knobs and MC Hammer's cd, so Collin can do his 'Can't Touch This' dance for Kate!

timetogokon said...

I truly feel bad for the naive, good hearted Christians who line up to support this generations version of the Bakers.
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I , too, feel very sad for those people who are genuinely kind-hearted and giving in nature. They are simply giving from their hearts. Innocence and naivite.

On the other hand, the sheeple who REFUSE to see the truth even when it's right in front of them are the ones that aggravate the heck out of me. Ignorance, plain and simple.

Addison said...

I just got done listening to the book on tape version of Steven Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective Families. I know, I know, kind of an embaressing thing to listen to, but I had a fairly short drive and it was the only thing at the library that was relatively short.

Some of it was pretty corny (building a "beautiful family culture...") however, a lot of it made sense and some of the points he made made me think of the Gosselins.

A few things he pointed out that make an effective family which the Gosselins do NOT have:

-Making the family the first priority (not just saying that it is, but actually ACTING like it is).

-Reaching out to other families to build an even bigger and more loving community.

-Really truly listening and empathizing with your children. Seeking first to understand and then to be understood (or something like that...)

-Accepting each family member as he or she is and really believing in them/never giving up on them. He said something about how if you treat your children like you totally accept them and see all their potential, they will act upon that and become better people.

-Becoming self-aware and proactive and accepting responsibility for one's own life instead of blaming it on someone else.

-Having patience because fixing big problems takes LOTS of time and effort. It's never too late though.

I think KON should try reading this book. It may help them.
ALTHOUGH: Steven Covey did mention the importance of a family mission statement and I know the Gosselins have one of those. Maybe they have read his work after all and that was the only thing they chose to follow...

Anonymomma said...

I love my son! said...
Oh, I almost forgot to bring the dresser drawer knobs and MC Hammer's cd, so Collin can do his 'Can't Touch This' dance for Kate!


ROFLMAO!!!!

I think I'll bring the soupS!!!

Tangerine Tanya said...

I love my son...GREAT ONE
I dig seeing Collin doing that dance....The song that you picked out is PERFECT..

boyscoutmomx5 said...

I love my son! said...
Oh, I almost forgot to bring the dresser drawer knobs and MC Hammer's cd, so Collin can do his 'Can't Touch This' dance for Kate!
............................

That is too funny I really laughed out loud on that one. I'm still giggling over Collin dancing to that tune.

I dont want to say who I am said...

Hey let's invite Aunt Jodi,Beth,
Kate's folks,Jon's Mom and other people who Kate tossed out.

Jon/Kate and girls(sorry girlies we love ya but this is a special party for the boys)will be banished to the basement.

marypoppins said...

Ok caught part of "twins play mommy"

This could have been planned soo much better and prevented a lot of tears/helped boost twins self esteem. Come on producers.

The girls should have been encouraged to make a list of all duties and divided them bet themselves BEFORE.

Cara needs to learn to stand up for herself even to Maddy.

Its a good thing they use paper plates.

TODAY they get a cooked lunch

Parents should have supervised and encouraged the tups to cooperate/practise manners
Eg. Maddy puts on bib- Hannah say thank you to Maddy etc.

I wonder what grandparents/aunts uncles thought of the maddy rolling around the floor footage. I did not care for it.

I dont want to say who I am said...

Dont worry though Alexis. We will save you and your sister's some bagels. I WANT A BAGEL!

Tonya said...

I looked through the archives of their website provided. Why does the wording here seem so strange?

"We finally purchased a van ourselves. It is a 2004 Dodge Sprinter Passenger Wagon."

http://web.archive.org/web/20050813235647/http://www.sixgosselins.com/

Why the need to point out "finally purchased it ourselves"? Were they expecting it to be given to them before this point and had to break down and buy it themselves? Doesn't seem like a happy "yeah we finally got a van that fits us all!" thing. Seems more "since nobody gave it to us we have to buy it for ourselves. Thanks for nothing."

goawayJandK said...

Regarding the "party" list:

Jeez, GET A GRIP.

Everybody knows you can't have (cup)cake without ice cream (Disneygate anyone?). I will also bring a few bottles of Juicy Juice and a huge bowl of organic strawberries just for Joel.

Mary Poppins:
100% agree with you on Mady rolling around on the floor. Creepy and totally inappropriate that someone filmed/aired that footage. Mady also needs to be taught how to sit properly.

mommynMO said...

Finally, Beth gets some credit:

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=117302

Love how SAHM Kate(cough,cough)spent weekends away in a hotel and left all the kids with Jon, but I forgot, she's an author too.

marypoppins said...

FROM AMAZON.COM

Eight Little Faces by Kate Gosselin (Hardcover - April 1, 2009)
Product Details
Hardcover: 48 pages
Publisher: Zondervan (April 1, 2009)



April 1st... LOL

I dont want to say who I am said...

We will put a lock on the laundry room door after we haved shoved the interview couch in there.There will be balloons that wont get kicked.We will also invite the crew in so that they dont have to stand in the cold.

yeaisaidthat said...

She says family members live too far away or are too busy to help, and the stream of volunteers that came in the early months compromised the family's privacy. "There is no one," she says definitively. "I have racked my brain."


Compromising the 'family's privacy' didn't seem to bother Kate so much afterall when she accepted TLC's offer to do a reality tv show. Kick out the volunteers and bring in a camera and production crew!

Its A Good Thing said...

Four said...
Tangerine Tanya Posted:

Fellow Poster It's A Good Thing suggested that we have a house warming party for the Gosselins new home and offered to bring a few things as others on this board did also.They are as follows.

It's a Good Thing-Cupcakes and gum

Dirty Laundry- Decorations-Little
dustlies

I love my son-White chairs,organic
chips and blue shoe
covers

Oh and can I bring something?
Can I bring some sippy cups and
bibs? I will be one community
wash cloth and we can all use
the same one to clean up.

Kate already has her "MONEY MUNCH"
But she is NOT allowed to share.

-

Actually I can't take credit for the party, lol, Dirty Laundry came up with it! But I will definitely bring the cupcakes and gum. How does chocolate frosting sound to everybody?

miss irene said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT3LX1h-DNs

I haven't seen this video posted on here yet. It's an outtake from the show, Leah wakes up in the middle of the night, gets cuddled and loved by Kate before Jon takes her back to bed. Then Kate totally flips out on Jon for turning the tups tv on, very nasty to him.

Interesting to note that Leah gets loved and Alexis gets banished. And then Kate saying that it doesn't matter how HE was raised, that is totally unacceptable.

Seems like she might be even more of witch than they edit her to be!

mommynMO said...

marypoppins said...
FROM AMAZON.COM

Eight Little Faces by Kate Gosselin (Hardcover - April 1, 2009)
Product Details
Hardcover: 48 pages
Publisher: Zondervan (April 1, 2009)



April 1st... LOL
--------------------------
That's totally appropriate considering you'd have to be a fool to buy it....do you think the publisher did that on purpose?

Dani said...

I am not going to post details because I can probably get in trouble for that, but I checked county records and they have a HUGE mortgage on the new house.

Wonder how they plan on paying for that mortgage once their little show goes down the drain, which it appears is going in that directions. I doubt many more people will continue to love them when they see how they live now.

I love my son! said...

You know I've debated over posting this for a while now, but something truly bothered me when I read their book. I know I will get plenty of flack from the sheeple people, but this struck a major nerve with me.

Kate often states she is misquoted or edited wrong. However, Kate openly refers to her life as a show (the show is our life and our life is the show). So, if she doesn't want things taken out of context or misconstrued, then maybe she should think before she speaks or dictates for others (Beth) to write.

I know many of you haven't read the book, but the following is what bothered me (page 129, paragragh 3): "While the girls loved to move from volunteer to volunteer, telling stories, singing songs, and generally enjoying the attention, I often felt sorry for them. Some days they would just hit a wall. They were used to being the stars of the show, the love of our lives, and the princesses in every respect. How could they not feel like extras on an overcrowded set being pushed aside for their new younger co-stars?"

The paragraph continued with how Mady would het angry and act out while Cara was sad. Now I know Jon has been berated for refering to their lives as 'seasons', so why would she refer to her children as actors?!

Anonymomma said...

She says family members live too far away or are too busy to help, and the stream of volunteers that came in the early months compromised the family's privacy. "There is no one," she says definitively. "I have racked my brain."


Compromised the family's privacy? The more I re-read that sentence the more I think she was worried about what people would find out about them, who they really are behind closed doors.

And when you have 6 tiny, newborns (not to mention NICU grads) that need to be fed, changed, burped, etc., every two to three hours around the clock, one would think that a mother would put her needs of privacy aside for the sake of the needs of her babies care.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Its a Good Thing,
You are so right.I did get the names backwards. (sorry)But yes all the party ideas were good and fun thoughts. If only huh? P.S the comment about the chocolate pudding was a fun thought.Isn't that what Kate actually let the kiddos play with when they were in N/C?

I love my son! said...

Sorry about the above typos in my blog!

LauraJean said...

Put me on the list for the Purell and the pumpkin carver and the 4th of July candy that only the kids can eat, no candy for you Jon & Kate.

Lisa said...

I had mentioned this on another thread & no one responded, so I will try it here...does anyone know how TLC splits J&Kplus8 into seasons? It seems as though there is a never-ending reserve of "new" episodes, so do those children actually ever get a true break from the cameras? When are they considered on hiatus and how many seasons have there been - three?

AnneMarie said...

If you go to IMDB.com and type in Jon & Kate Plue 8, the show will pop up. There were VERY few episodes in season 1-3, but now on season 4 (which we are watching now), JUST look at how many episodes they are pulling off. How do they have ANY downtime?


And look at future titles we are being graced with in the weeks to come.

"Season 4, Episode 33: The Big Move
Original Air Date—2 February 2009


Next US airings:
Mon. Feb. 2 9:00 PM TLC
Tue. Feb. 3 12:00 AM TLC

Season 4, Episode 34: Walk in the Woods
Original Air Date—9 February 2009
----------------

Jon and Kate Get Rhythm"

"

Sue said...

It seems to me that there was almosst no break between the last two seasons due to the increased number of episodes.

JuliaGoolia said...

Oh my gosh, I can not wait to get the new book coming out on April 1st!!!! a photo album of someone else's kids! APRIL FOOLS!

Why would anyone want a book with pictures of someone else's kids that they don't even know. CREEPY.

Also, what's up with YouTube videos that people create for the gosselin kids? They are like music videos for the kids as a tribute to their existence as a Gosselin. I also think that it's very creepy.

The Sheeple are creepy, in general. I just don't understand the obsession of these children! To send them birthday gifts, buy books of their pics, create videos of their lives....hate to break it to them, but they DO NOT KNOW THE G KIDS!

:) Thanks for letting me vent. lol

Teryn said...

mommynMO said...
marypoppins said...
FROM AMAZON.COM

Eight Little Faces by Kate Gosselin (Hardcover - April 1, 2009)
Product Details
Hardcover: 48 pages
Publisher: Zondervan (April 1, 2009)



April 1st... LOL
--------------------------
That's totally appropriate considering you'd have to be a fool to buy it....do you think the publisher did that on purpose?
---------------


That's Jon's birthday...April 1

MnMs are good said...

I throughly miss when TLC used to be a boring educational channel with no frills. Shows were poorly edited, simple graphics, no reality shows... the learning channel my gluteal cleft! hmmph.

Hambone said...

miss irene said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT3LX1h-DNs

I haven't seen this video posted on here yet. It's an outtake from the show, Leah wakes up in the middle of the night, gets cuddled and loved by Kate before Jon takes her back to bed. Then Kate totally flips out on Jon for turning the tups tv on, very nasty to him.

Interesting to note that Leah gets loved and Alexis gets banished. And then Kate saying that it doesn't matter how HE was raised, that is totally unacceptable.

Seems like she might be even more of witch than they edit her to be!

--------


Good Lord, I just watched this. What a BITCH! I don't know how Jon refrained from slapping the crap out of her. The way she claps her hands at him like a school marm....disgusting.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she say in an episode that she leaves the tv on in their rooms when they go down for naps? I recall her telling Nana Janet or some other sitter to pop in a DVD when they lay down. Said something along the lines that it was already in the tv, to just turn it on.

That woman is despicable. Such a liar.

beachluvin said...

CORRECTION: Kate Gosselin, the mother of sextuplets, says a story in last Sunday's editions misrepresented her views. She says she doesn't believe "society" is obligated to help her family. She said there should be some "resource," possibly run by a private foundation, to help families who have many children from one pregnancy. "I absolutely do not feel that anybody owes me anything," she says.

1/23/2009 2:21 PM
*************************

So, Kate...why don't you start a private foundation for families of many children?
Oh, wait I forgot you're a taker not a giver...sorry!

Christie said...

I am really very puzzled at the extreme negative emotions that so many people have on this web site for the Gosselin's. Do I think Kate could be a little nicer to Jon? Yes, but I can be short and cranky too. Having a preschool group of kids underfoot would certainly bring out the worst in me.

About their new home, a bigger house is exactly what they need. A family of 10 could really use some space. They've sold 2 books and obviously made some money, it is a good investment and all that space and privacy will be wonderful especially for the kids. Who wouldn't be excited to say "it's all mine"?

We are a custom home builder and build large multi million dollar homes that are usually just for 2 people. A million dollar price tag is not that unique anymore. Look at junky fixer uppers out in California that cost that much.

We live in a neighborhood of middle class people, and I would say most of my neighbors (who no longer have children at home or work) have someone clean their home each week and do their landscaping maintenance. It is not that extroidinary to have some help. If they are as busy as everyone says it only makes sense. Then the extra time can go to the family, not cleaning house. Sounds like prioritizing to me.

The Gosselin's have been given a unique opportunity, with their show, books and all their appearances they have every right to a few more luxuries. I am sure they will be the first to admit the ride won't last forever and if they can make the most of it now they would be foolish to waste it. It will never be cheap to keep a family of 10 going.

So if you are going to complain about people why not rag on the athletes with their 40 million dollar contracts just for playing a game who still get arrested. Or Hollywood celebrities who get paid just to show up at parties much less millions to act in a movie and still can't lead a functioning life.

Are the Gosselin's perfect? No, but there seems to be a lot stone throwing at some people you have never actually met. What's the quote? "He who is without sin should cast the first stone" as I remember no one threw a stone.

the other judy said...

Did anyone else notice in one of the articles posted above, Kate mentions that family and friends told them to "get over it and snap out of it"?

Maybe we just got a clue into the family's estrangement? I have a feeling that Kate's parents told them to stop taking handouts and start LIVING their lives without depending on everyone else!

shmedelle said...

Kate has said repeatedely said that "going to the spa makes her a better mom." I agree, that any mother needs a break now and then, in order to give her all to her kids. However, when I need a break, I go to the library for an hour, or, I go to the gym, or, I may even tell my husband that I am going grocery shopping but stop off at a couple of stores to "window shop" and take my sweet ol' time. I may drive around town while listening to music in the car, for some 'get away time'. When I need a break, it never occurs to me to go to a spa for a massage? And drop a couple of hundred bucks! Yep, I've had a pedicure...for my wedding day. Am I the only one out here? How much does a massage cost, anyway? Point is, all moms need a break. Mine don't cost hundrens of dollars. Do yours?

Corinne said...

Oooh I want in on the party!

Corinne will bring:

Post-it Bible verses that address the seven deadly sins (with special emphasis on sloth and gluttony)

A gallon of bleach, some Starbucks, hair clips, IKEA shelving (you know, since it's all at the old house)

Tess H. said...

When will people wake up (and especially women)?

I see that Kate has made appearances at some non-church events in the past but is scheduled to appear at quite a few more in the future. For example, she is scheduled for a Women's Lifestyle Show in Ontario, Canada in March. Herbal One Weight Management Nutrition Centres is the sponsor and tickets are $10 for general admission to the lifestyle show but you need special $40 tickets to hear Kate talk. I'm amazed that anyone would spend any money to see/hear her but $40?? The woman doesn't hold any secrets except how to scam stupid people.

KateIsSoFullOfHerself said...

Corinne said...

Oooh I want in on the party!

Corinne will bring:

Post-it Bible verses that address the seven deadly sins (with special emphasis on sloth and gluttony)

A gallon of bleach, some Starbucks, hair clips, IKEA shelving (you know, since it's all at the old house)

1/23/2009 10:59 PM


Corrine, please also emphasize on greed as Jon and Kate are obviously greedy (hello, who are they to say no?) envy (Kate to Beth? Hmm..) pride (Kate's desire to be more important than the others, failing to show gratitude to Aunt Jodi and other volunteers)...

I want in on the party too, I'll bring some monkey munch and $20!

Tess H. said...

Christie,

I do rag on celebrities and athletes just not so much here because that isn't the focus of this blog.

The Gosselins deserve tons more negativity than they get mainly for the fact that they have sold their kids privacy. I think they are unique only in this aspect. Who else has sold their kids privacy from the time they were babies?

kateisacreep said...

miss irene said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT3LX1h-DNs

I haven't seen this video posted on here yet. It's an outtake from the show, Leah wakes up in the middle of the night, gets cuddled and loved by Kate before Jon takes her back to bed. Then Kate totally flips out on Jon for turning the tups tv on, very nasty to him.

Interesting to note that Leah gets loved and Alexis gets banished. And then Kate saying that it doesn't matter how HE was raised, that is totally unacceptable.

Seems like she might be even more of witch than they edit her to be!

_______

Wow - Leah has nightmares every night, about monsters? Classic signs of trauma anyone???

my9cats said...

And for dessert I shall make the American Flag cake from Kate's very own secret recipe which my grandmother made years ago from a magazine ad.

Vicki said...

I found it very interesting to compare peoples reasoning on things. Our Country's new First Lady has taken EXCEPTION to a doll
company using her Childrens first
names on dolls. Mrs. Obama finds
it INAPPROPRIATE to MARKET young
minor childrens lives. HEY JON:
Wake up you fool. What are you
doing to your Children? Last week in your Utah Interview you Mentioned the Marketability of your Children. Jon and Kate you are sick, lazy and I will stop there. (These two jerks sure bring out the worst in me. I don't go around saying things like this.)

Dunwoody Mom said...

To: Christie

Drinking that sheeple soup aren't we?

Do you really believe that 8 kids are under Kate's feet everyday? Oh, please.

And, in this economy, $1 million+ homes are in few people's budget - with the exception of Kon's who've built their money by using their kids and taking "love offerings" from people who probably could use their own money themselves.

dad of 3 said...

Celebs and athletes, like them or not, have a unique ability or talent and work within a very small, lucrative market. How many of us are 6-3 and can run 40 yards in 4.3 seconds, and catch a football seconds before getting drilled by a safety? very, very few. Terrel Owens can, and gets paid for it. The money comes from huge network contracts and 80.000 plus stadium attendance, etc. The money is there, the athletes should get their fair share.

I cant run a forty very fast and I cant dunk a basketball or hit a homerun, but my wife, if given fertility treatments could produce multiples.

The gosselins did what millions around the world do every day. They had babies! yes, they were multiples, very rare indeed. rare but not unprecedented or unexpected. Remember, they had already had multiples and were aware of the possibilities associated with the fertility treatments. What is unprecedented is the level to which they have lived their life in the public (even before the TLC show), accepted handouts (even soliciting them on a website), complained about privacy and through it all remained unsatisfied and ungrateful.

As viewers, ok past viewers, we watched over a 4 year period, a family make tremendous financial strides through book sales, speaking fees and corporate sponsorships, but we didnt see the development and normal maturation of those children or of the family dynamic as is portrayed in their own show (remember, our show is our life).

Someone said class envy might explain the resentment of the Gosselins offered up on this site. I would dispute that and say that the perception of a lack of class, in a different sense, is at the heart of the resentment.

Thank You

cheryl said...

A HUGE mortgage on the new house!
What is the estimated payment on a
$800,000 loan??
Maybe a million people should send them a cupcake, a stick of gum and a $1 bill to help out. I'm sure they would be delighted!!!
Everyone must help out!!

I love my son! said...

Christie,

So, I guess moving in to a bigger house will make their problems go away? I get the feeling a bigger house means BIGGER problems & more wonderful episodes of Kate complaining about having to 'make a meal, clean up after a meal'.
Actually she'll have a cleaning crew and chef to help her.

As far as having her 'tups being under her feet go... well to frigging bad. That is what parenting is about. This is a choice she made to have the 'tups and a choice she nagged Jon about to have their lives filmed because she was just to busy to capture every moment.

I do agree athletes and actors get paid to much, however, they are being paid and using their God givin talent. I don't recall any athlet having to use their child to make a touch down, field goal, or slam dunk for that matter.

I'm sure you'll compare actors selling photos of their babies, but a one time photo shoot just isn't the same as being filmed for season after season. Also when you give all of the money back (like the Pitts' $14,000,000.) to charity without making/taking a profit that just plain awesome in my book (named Multiple Freebies or Mixed Blessings, I can't decide).

I love my son! said...

Tonya,

I just watched that clip you posted. You know she just didn't berate or belittle Jon, she attacked his parents as well. I wonder why Jon's mother is out of the picture? Kate is so warm and cuddly. I just want to give her a great big bear hug around the neck!
I want to hug her and squeeze her and name her George (more like Katie Irene is mean).

Thanks again for posting it.

Moons in Leo said...

Christie said:
I am really very puzzled at the extreme negative emotions that so many people have on this web site for the Gosselin's.

Christie, we are concerned at how the parents have sold their children's privacy.

Have your bowel movements been recorded and broadcast on national television? No. Neither have mine.


Who wouldn't be excited to say "it's all mine"?

What would have been more accurate and nicer would for Kate to have said (if she must make any comment at all) "it's all ours" or "it's all ares."

Bran C said...

I am looking for the episode where Aunt Jodi's give them gum...Help?

lisak said...

I can't understand why some people compare the J&K to celebs and sports figures.
First of all we have never seen the celebs and sports figures build a website and beg for handouts. Second the celebs and sports figures started at the bottom and in most cases took them years of hard work to accomplish what they have.
J&K are not celebs, the only thing they will be remembered for is, sacraficing their childrens childhoods in for material objects .

Aunty K.K. said...

I wrote "Willow Creek" about Kate appearing, and this email arrived last night,,,(I've taken my own name out)..Here is the email I received:



Dear ....,

Jon & Kate Plus 8 focuses on the challenges and joys of raising eight children. Obviously producers of television programs capitalize on the most interesting or most controversial content because it helps keep viewers. Even as a follower of Jesus Christ and as someone employed in full time Christian ministry, I have to say I am very relieved television cameras aren’t following me around all day long filming my every action, only to be edited by producers in such a way that everything I do and say comes across in the most controversial or interesting way possible.

Raising eight children cannot be easy and Willow does not condone abusive or neglectful behavior by anyone. Willow Creek did not invite Kate Gosselin to weekend services to honor her for being a perfect mom. She is, however, in a unique situation to speak to the challenges of raising children. As the mother of sextuplets and twins, she brings out elements of what it’s like to be a Christian mom in today’s world.

Kate will be interviewed on the last weekend of the Families at their Best series as a way to explore the challenges mothers face as they strive to raise godly children. It is our prayer that God will allow all of us to learn something about parenting, about families, or about ourselves from this service. It is weekends like this that give many of us who call Willow Creek our home church, an opportunity to invite friends and family who ordinarily might not be interested in going to church.

In terms of your statement about her friend Beth and the book, it’s difficult to comment without knowledge of the terms agreed to by Beth, Jon, Kate, and the publisher of the book.

Thank you for your support of the weekend series about families. Willow is committed to walking alongside parents, ministry leaders, aunts and uncles, and kids as they strive to keep Christ at the center of the family and live lives that are pleasing to God.

Blessings,

Susan DeLay
Willow Creek Community Church

IRATEb/cofKate said...

Here is a family that TRULY needs help.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/22/AR2009012203995.html?g=1

jacsamic said...

First time to submit something...long time reader...appreciate a monitored and fair site for us to read and comment in......I could not let this pass without commenting...woke up this morning to see on the news where our new first lady completely rejects the two dolls made from the maker of beanie babies named after her daughters. Seems our first lady does not think it is appropiate to market children for financial gain...what a class act she is...hello Mr. and Mrs. G....WAKE UP......ok, I am not delusional, but, I surely hope for their sweet childrens' sake, they also see this and at least pause before going coming to the conclusion that they should make dolls of the tups and twins.....

BostonBean said...

I just watched that clip about letting the kids watch TV.
She is such a witch!
It's bad enough that this even took place; but to continue this discussion while cameras are recording you means that she just DOESN'T care what others think. She has to have her way and she has to be right.
She needs a BIG wake up call....and soon.
She said she would remove ALL TVs if he allowed that again.
That's what I like about her. She is a Christian woman, who honors her husband as the leader of the home.
Oh yeah...
He won't be able to cope with staying with her over the years, no matter how motivated he is with good intentions.
She is beyond obnoxious.

RuthinVA said...

From Kate's book I know many of you haven't read the book, but the following is what bothered me (page 129, paragraph 3): "While the girls loved to move from volunteer to volunteer, telling stories, singing songs, and generally enjoying the attention, I often felt sorry for them. Some days they would just hit a wall. They were used to being the stars
of the show, the love of our
lives, and the princesses in every respect. How could they not feel like extras on an overcrowded set being pushed aside for their new younger co-stars?"

_________________________

This is what many child stars complain of. One day you are on top of the world and the next you are history. They say their self esteem plummets.
These children's live will not always be first in line at some attraction, many adoring fans making wonderful remarks about them and material items being shipped to their door for their pleasure. Kate can sit on her couch and try to convince herself that her children will not be negatively effected by the show, but it seems to me she has already figured out it has effected her children from the excerpts above. Sadly it did nothing to change the course of her path. That alone is selfish and greedy, trow away all of the other stuff. This is a good excerpt for Jess to include in her article, tells it all doesn't it.

RuthinVA said...

It is weekends like this that give many of us who call Willow Creek our home church, an opportunity to invite friends and family who ordinarily might not be interested in going to church.


_________________________________

So, Willow Creek has no shame in also using the antics of Jon and Kate plus 8 to increase their congregation..........well guess they want to jump on the exploitation band wagon too.

Lightly Row said...

I am really very puzzled at the extreme negative emotions that so many people have on this web site for the Gosselin's.

Why are you puzzled? Is it really that difficult to understand an extreme negative reaction to long term, hard core child exploitation? Don't YOU have an extreme negative reaction to long term, hard core child exploitation?

Do I think Kate could be a little nicer to Jon? Yes, but I can be short and cranky too.

If you smack your husband in the face, berate him on camera, humiliate him on camera, constantly correct him on camera, criticize him to your children on camera, etc., will you be puzzled when you are viewed with disdain?

Having a preschool group of kids underfoot would certainly bring out the worst in me.

Kate has NEVER had her children underfoot, she has always had help and in fact in the last year or more she has spent huge chunks of time totally away from them.

About their new home, a bigger house is exactly what they need.

No, they didn't NEED it, they WANTED it. And the only reason they were able to get one is that they have been exploiting their children for the past several years.

all that space and privacy will be wonderful especially for the kids.

They kids have no privacy, and haven't had any for the past several years.

Who wouldn't be excited to say "it's all mine"?

Someone who realizes that it actually belongs to the entire family? Someone who actually earned it legitimately and not by exploiting their children?

It is not that extroidinary to have some help.

It is if the way you pay for "some help" is to exploit your children.

If they are as busy as everyone says it only makes sense. Then the extra time can go to the family, not cleaning house.

Except that the extra time does not go to the family.

The Gosselin's have been given a unique opportunity,

Yep, they were given the opportunity to exploit their children, an opportunity which most parents would have rejected with great disdain.

I am sure they will be the first to admit the ride won't last forever

Too bad they didn't reject the ride in the first place. The children would have their privacy and dignity intact.

So if you are going to complain about people why not rag on the athletes with their 40 million dollar contracts just for playing a game who still get arrested.

If those athletes exploit their children, you bet we'll complain.

there seems to be a lot stone throwing at some people you have never actually met.

We don't have to meet them to know that they are exploiting their children.

What's the quote? "He who is without sin should cast the first stone" as I remember no one threw a stone.

What's the quote? "The love of money is the root of all evil.". Based upon your quote, I am quite free to cast stones -- I have never exploited my children.

Sue said...

Just think if Kate took the opportunity at Willow Creek to express honestly some of the decisions she may not have made if she knew how things were going to tun out. That could truly be a help to many parents.

timetogokon said...

Bran C said...
I am looking for the episode where Aunt Jodi's give them gum...Help?

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The infamous Gumgate epi is called "Mady's Day"

timetogokon said...

Lightly Row -

Nicely worded.

To all the fans/sheeple who claim the new house will give the kids privacy :

As long as the show is on, the kids have NO privacy. Because of how the new house is situated, the kids, will, however, be even further isolated from having a normal childhood.

PRIVACY and ISOLATION are very different.

Its A Good Thing said...

Christie said...
I am really very puzzled at the extreme negative emotions that so many people have on this web site for the Gosselin's. Do I think Kate could be a little nicer to Jon? Yes, but I can be short and cranky too. Having a preschool group of kids underfoot would certainly bring out the worst in me.
We are a custom home builder and build large multi million dollar homes that are usually just for 2 people. A million dollar price tag is not that unique anymore. Look at junky fixer uppers out in California that cost that much.

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Its not that Kate is short and cranky. She is very rude all the time. Its not so much as negative for Jon and Kate but worry for the kids and anger at the parents for creating this situation. Kate doesn't have any children underfoot, she is never home, which mind you was one of their biggest reasons for doing the show. No a million dollar price tag may not be that unique, HOWEVER the only reason J&K can afford that house is because of exploitation. So I hope that when Kate is standing at her kitchen window saying ITS ALL MINE, that she realizes the sole reason she has this house is because she sold her children privacy and childhood to the highest bidder.

I love my son! said...

Whoops, I posted 'Tanya said' when I should have typed 'MISS IRENE' regarding the TV gate episode.

Sorry Miss Irene! Oh and was that ever aired on tv? I don't recall that one ever.

Tangerine Tanya said...

KUDOS to you Lightly Row.
Very well put

IA Twin Mommy said...

After reading Multiple Blessings, I decided to finally read Bobbi & Kenny McCaugheys book (septuplets). They live in my county and we hear next to nothing from or about them. They are a very private family, so I was curious as to how their book compared to the Gosselin book.

While neither of the books are very well-written (in my opinion), there was a noticeable difference.

Bobbi continually writes about how they did not want the attention, did not want publicity, just wanted to be themselves (while the Gosselins seek out publicity).

The biggest thing that I noticed was how the McCaugheys had everything they needed donated to them without running around asking for it. They are extremely grateful for everything they have. In fact, Bobbi said that when they realized they had more than they needed, they began donating to a local women's center and to other families of high-order multiples. I think the Gosselins have received way more than most families, yet they fail to bother to pass on the items they don't need (instead they actually sell them). It's disgraceful.

I've never been a huge fan of the McCaugheys, but after watching the Gosselins carry on and on, I have a lot more respect for the McCaugheys. They are a normal family-in fact, I saw 3 of the kids at Toys R Us last night. Very unassuming, well-mannered children. No one even knew who they were, I just happened to recognize them from seeing them on Dateline in recent years.

The Gosselins need to take a cue from other families in similar situations.

Tess H. said...

I've seen a couple of comments regarding Kate's book signing at a Houston area Barnes and Noble last night. They say that Kate left soon after arriving possibly due to a rude comment being made. It will be interesting to see if more comments/information are shared regarding this.

Finally someone (yeah Houston) had the nerve to burst her bubble a little.

Virginia said...

Go Houston! Well done! I hope there will be one, at least one, person at each appearance who will do the same. Stand up for these kids if you can. Show these venues, the bookstores and other places, that not everyone is thrilled to be conned.

Katie said...

Hi, could someone please tell me the episode where Kate puts Joel on the laundry room floor? I can't believe a nurse would do that! It is so easy for a child (or anyone really) to choke on their own vomit. I'm only a nursing student and I wouldn't let her touch me even if I was dying. Thanks!

my9cats said...

Dani said...
I am not going to post details because I can probably get in trouble for that, but I checked county records and they have a HUGE mortgage on the new house.

Wonder how they plan on paying for that mortgage once their little show goes down the drain, which it appears is going in that directions. I doubt many more people will continue to love them when they see how they live now.

1/23/2009 7:12 PM

I looked in the site. The deed (sold for)amount is listed, 1.2mill
but nowhere is it mentioned how much the actual mortgage is for (the amount, less down payment) Can you give us a hint?

onetimewatcher said...

I'm new to this site and I have a few questions.

Why haven't any of the many volunteers from the early years spoken out about Kate's behavior?

I saw the TV/bedtime argument on Youtube, how do never before scenes get there, is TLC leaking them?

lisak said...

Does anyone know what the Houston comment was? I would love to know.
At least she knows not everyone is so receptive of her and what she stands for.

aimee said...

@ Christie

I think you're being willfully obtuse. To compare the Gosselin circus to professional athletes is just bonkers. Professional athletes earn their own money, through their own talent. Professional athletes exploit anyone to earn their money. They certainly do not exploit children to do so. Athletes do in fact work for their massive salaries (even if you feel they are overpaid to do so) but the Gosselins are earning money from their CHILDREN.

Would anyone watch a show with just Jon and Kate? Would anyone have approached them to make a show if they didn't have 10 children? Hardly.

Yes, Kate and Jon are out "working" at home shows and book signings and church appearances but that work wouldn't be there for them if they hadn't pumped out a huge number of children through artificial means.

As for others who own property and homes valued in the millions - people who pay for the construction of million dollar homes without first securing money for their children's college careers and their own retirement are just as shortsighted and daft as the Gosselins...

If their worry was being able to provide for their children in the years to come, they ought to have done as many do which is make do with what they already had. Obviously that was beneath them and now they own a massive property which will cost them a small fortune to maintain and yet they still publicly worry over college funds and their own retirement.

They didn't get to where they are today (read owners of a massive property and a vacation home on the ski slopes of Utah) because of their own hard work alone or even common sense measures like clipping coupons. That property and everything else they own is a manifestation of broadcasting the lives of their children for the whole world to see. They are not sharing the bounty of their hard work with their children - they are USING their children to amass that bounty.

Jon and Kate are not the first, nor will they be the last to have a mass of children...I just hope they are the last two to take advantage of it and sell their children to the highest bidder.

NotReally said...

dad of 3 said...

Celebs and athletes, like them or not, have a unique ability or talent and work within a very small, lucrative market.

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What unique talent does, for example, Paris Hilton possess? How about a model making millions whose "talent" is having been born pretty? Etc, etc.

Just a thought said...

I was over on the Jones site...checking out the babies. Under the registry listed the grandparents names. One of them is KRUEGER, wasn't that Kate's maiden name? Maybe somehow these families are related.

Kitty Walker said...

Anonymous Addison said...

I just got done listening to the book on tape version of Steven Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective Families. I know, I know, kind of an embaressing thing to listen to, but I had a fairly short drive and it was the only thing at the library that was relatively short.

Some of it was pretty corny (building a "beautiful family culture...") however, a lot of it made sense and some of the points he made made me think of the Gosselins.

A few things he pointed out that make an effective family which the Gosselins do NOT have:

-Making the family the first priority (not just saying that it is, but actually ACTING like it is).

-Reaching out to other families to build an even bigger and more loving community.

-Really truly listening and empathizing with your children. Seeking first to understand and then to be understood (or something like that...)

-Accepting each family member as he or she is and really believing in them/never giving up on them. He said something about how if you treat your children like you totally accept them and see all their potential, they will act upon that and become better people.

-Becoming self-aware and proactive and accepting responsibility for one's own life instead of blaming it on someone else.

-Having patience because fixing big problems takes LOTS of time and effort. It's never too late though.

I think KON should try reading this book. It may help them.
ALTHOUGH: Steven Covey did mention the importance of a family mission statement and I know the Gosselins have one of those. Maybe they have read his work after all and that was the only thing they chose to follow...

1/23/2009 4:52 PM


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Wow, right on! For someone who talks so much about how important her family is, it looks like Kate (and Jon) have a long way to go!

Nothing against Steven Covey (I've actually looked at his books before too - Lol), but I disagree that its "never too late." Some people will never have a "beautiful family culture." I think its a moot point though, because KON will never admit they have a problem so they won't do the work on themselves or their family to make it work. JMO.

propane and propane accessories said...

"What unique talent does, for example, Paris Hilton possess? How about a model making millions whose "talent" is having been born pretty? Etc, etc. "

I can tell you what they DON'T do, and that's exploit their children. A lot of people in our culture are idolized for shallow or vapid reasons, and overpaid, and it doesn't really bother me unless the reason they are idolized and overpaid is that they exploit their children.

Marie France said...

Christie said: ...So if you are going to complain about people why not rag on the athletes with their 40 million dollar contracts just for playing a game who still get arrested. Or Hollywood celebrities who get paid just to show up at parties much less millions to act in a movie and still can't lead a functioning life.
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Christie, excuse me, but it seems you have clearly missed the entire point here. The athletes and Hollywood celebs are ADULTS - they earn this money themselves and can do what they damn well please with it - I could care less. But KON is using (EXPLOITING) their eight children and living off the income the KIDS HAVE EARNED to buy the house and other things. This is the difference. I do not understand how you cannot possibly see this.

propane and propane accessories said...

"I was over on the Jones site...checking out the babies. Under the registry listed the grandparents names. One of them is KRUEGER, wasn't that Kate's maiden name?"

Kate's maiden name is Kreider.

Gloria said...

Lightly Row, well said! I totally agree.

Just a thought,

Kate's maiden name is Kreider, not Krueger.

Dirty Laundry, Are you the new 3F? Love your quips.

Miss Irene,

Thank you for sharing that you tube video of unseen footage.

I am appalled that Leah not only throws up daily but also has nightmares every night. What was that Kate was saying about what a good experience the show is for the kids? If I ever wondered if Kate had any regard for her kids over the almighty $$, it has been totally dispelled.

And Commandant Kate going after Jon? Come on, now. Who does that? With cameras rolling? On international TV? It shows more than just disrespect for Jon, it shows that she has no self-respect.

And to the sheeple who say they treat their husbands like Kate treats Jon, well,now that's really something to be proud of. I treat my dog better than that, but I really love my dog a lot.

Janine said...

RuthinVA said...
It is weekends like this that give many of us who call Willow Creek our home church, an opportunity to invite friends and family who ordinarily might not be interested in going to church.
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So, Willow Creek has no shame in also using the antics of Jon and Kate plus 8 to increase their congregation..........well guess they want to jump on the exploitation band wagon too.

NO, Willow Creek has no shame. I live in the Chicago area and everyone is familiar with Willow Creek - primarily because it is well known for its overzealous practices in "bringing people to Jesus" and the type of people it attracts - people who most of us would consider oddballs, not-too-bright, or just plain mean. Sound like anybody we know??? Willow Creek is a joke among most of us here in the area. If you meet someone who says they attend Willow Creek, you are automatically wary and raise an eyebrow - that's how weird this place is. I am NOT surprised they are welcoming Kate with open arms.

wramblinwreck said...

"What unique talent does, for example, Paris Hilton possess? How about a model making millions whose "talent" is having been born pretty?"

Their lack of talent is irrelevant. They're adults who found a way to make themselves marketable so they can make a living. If people are willing to pay them to model, do a reality show, show up at red carpet events, etc., fine by me. They're choosing to exploit themselves, not their children.

KassaMarie said...

i just watch give back any one else find it weird that kate said the kids rarely go to stores when THEY DO think about it they what to toy ur us what does she mean rarely

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"Rarely" means "not often", it doesn't mean "never". We've seen the kids in stores maybe three to five times throughout the series. I think that qualifies as "rarely".

But for the sake of argument, let's say Kate was lying about the frequency the kids go to stores. Is it really something to make an issue of, when the kids are exploited on TV and Jon and Kate are earning money off their backs?

IMHO, it's petty gripes like this that make sheeple question us as child advocates. We come across as just plain haters instead of people who really care about the children's wellbeing. I wouldn't care if Kate was lying left and right about something as inconsequentional as how often the kids went to stores, if only she wasn't exploiting her poor children and using their hard-earned money to go to spas and buy expensive clothes.

NotReally said...

Anonymous wramblinwreck said...

Their lack of talent is irrelevant. They're adults who found a way to make themselves marketable so they can make a living. If people are willing to pay them to model, do a reality show, show up at red carpet events, etc., fine by me. They're choosing to exploit themselves, not their children.

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No, it's not irrelevant in the context of the comment to which I responded. The person stated that celebrities possess unique talents, in contrast to the Gosselins. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what unique talent Paris Hilton possesses.

Someone else claimed that celebrities don't exploit their children. Really? Perhaps you'd like to explain how celebrities getting paid hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars for pictures of their babies on mag. covers are not exploiting their children.

Morgan said...

Based upon your quote, I am quite free to cast stones -- I have never exploited my children.
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The people who were going to cast stones may not have committed the same sin as the sinner in question, but they knew they had committed other sins and thus has no right to attack and judge the person they were going to stone.

"Judge not lest ye be judged."

I'm by no means religious, but I also don't appreciate the holier-than-thou attitude that prevails here. If you want to use the fact that she exploits her kids as the basis of comparison, maybe you come out on top. However, I don't recall Kate spending hours on an internet message board making nasty, exaggerated comments about someone she's never met before. Do you come out on top in that comparison?

Maggie said...

Some exceptional athletes are paid a huge amount of money for their talent. Terrell Owens may be cut this year because he is TOO expensive and TOO difficult.

Sometimes attitude counts as well.

Michael Vick was abusive and exploited dogs. Fame and money couldn't keep him out of prison.

People get fed up eventually with bad behaviour.

Serena said...

also don't appreciate the holier-than-thou attitude that prevails here

There is absolutely nothing "holier-than-thou" about condemning child exploitation. It is also not "judgemental" to condemn child exploitation.

You are SUPPOSED to denounce bad behavior that harms innocent, defenseless, vulnerable children.

Why anyone would think you should keep your mouth shut in the face of such egregious behavior is complicit in that behavior. And then to justify that complicity by throwing around misinterpreted Scripture is just ignorant and cowardly.

However, I don't recall Kate spending hours on an internet message board making nasty, exaggerated comments about someone she's never met before. Do you come out on top in that comparison?

I do. I haven't made nasty or exaggerated comments. But even the nastiest or most exaggerated comment typed on some blog somewhere in cyberspace cannot compare in the least to the ruthless exploitation being perpetrated by Kon on their eight children on a daily basis.

"Judge not lest ye be judged."

By the way, if you're going to try throwing around Scripture, at least know what it means or you'll end up looking foolish. The above quote is simply a warning that you will be judged by the same yardstick you use to judge others. I am quite secure and confident that it is proper to condemn the exploitation of the eight Gosselin children as I have never even toyed with the idea of doing so myself.

dad of 3 said...

Paris Hilton is the very fortunate great grand daughter of a man that created something from absolutely nothing and rose to the level of super rich and famous. The 3 generations that have followed have cultivated that company into an empire. Paris, by lineage, is in a position to take advantage of that noteriety. She has accomplished nothing and has no discernable talents except to be aware of the opportunities that come with her family's empire that are given to her, regardless of how we accept her or not.

Kate is doing the exact opposite. Given the same skill set as paris and without the body, etc. Kate has chosen to utilize the fame and recognition that her kids garner. Any recognition or fortune only comes at the expense of her childrens chance at a normal life.

You are sitting right now within 10-15 minutes drive time from a hilton family holding, Paris, by extension, is associated with that 4th generation empire, small dog and all.

nc resident said...

However, I don't recall Kate spending hours on an internet message board making nasty, exaggerated comments about someone she's never met before. Do you come out on top in that comparison?

Actually Jon has spent several hours on the internet documented at the Triplet Connection site. He eventually retreated from posting as the media had questioned his actions there. He then, because of what he said, asked that all his posts be deleted. Kate recently said she spends a great deal of time on the computer. I am not saying what she does but you do not know either. She could be posting to defend herself you never know. We do know Jon was quick to defend their actions early on.

I tend to agree with Serena on the Bible quote. Look it up it is the most misquoted verse in the Bible.

Great Blog! said...

To all the people who say we have no right to judge the Gosselins:

Are you not judging us? Is it all right to judge others just not the Gosselins? What Jon and Kate are doing to the children is wrong. Children need and deserve privacy.


Also, thanks to the creators of GWOP and all the commenters that post here. I am very happy to see that somebody is willing to stand up for what is right. Its a great blog and keep up the great work!

dad of 3 said...

Having now responded to the Paris Hilton argument. I might add, this is a common form of rebuttal among those that are aware, at heart, that their case is feeble and fading quickly. The "what about...." or "yea, but soanso did suchansuch" is a desperate attempt to divert attention away from the principal involved and stay in the fight and it is a clear sign to everyone that the debate is over. The point was made.

Parsley said...

Regarding the judge not lest ye be judged quote tossed around. First, those saying that had better go look in the mirror. You are judging the people here so if it's a sin, you just did. Secondly, you must not have read a lot of St Paul's letters. If Christians aren't supposed to judge (in the way you interpret it) why was St Paul sending letters of correction to all those churches in the early days?

Lightly Row said...

You're kidding, right?! On what planet are you not supposed to judge child exploitation as wrong?

timetogokon said...

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what unique talent Paris Hilton possesses

-Paris Hilton has no talent, I'll give you that. BUT......her money is old money so she didn't need to DO anything to be wealthy. And, she certainly didn't pimp out her own children (if she had any) to make a name for herself.

To the KON defenders : if Jon and Kate are now considered to be employed , and don't need their children to be famous, why not cancel the show ? They certainly are "famous" in their own pathetic world. Let's see how much interest there is without the kids and the show.


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I was over on the Jones site...checking out the babies. Under the registry listed the grandparents names. One of them is KRUEGER, wasn't that Kate's maiden name?"

-No, but she could easily be related to Freddie.


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to Katie:

JoelGate is called "Cooking with the Twins"

timetogokon said...

Dang! I always forget to add things to my posts :

I am Christian, but do not know the Bible NEARLY as well as others on this blog.

I want to personally thank y'all for staying on your toes when it comes to the sheeple defending Kate and her faith, scriptures, etc.

I also want to thank you for educating /enlightening me about what the Bible and faith REALLY mean.

wramblinwreck said...

dadof3 said:

"The "what about...." or "yea, but soanso did suchansuch" is a desperate attempt to divert attention away from the principal involved..."

Yep, an old debating tactic, also known as a digression or red herring. When you know you don't have a strong argument, you deliberately try to change the subject or divert the argument to an irrelevant issue. The term red herring came from the time when criminals used fish to lead sniffer dogs off the trail. These days, a sheeple throwing fish is not enough to mask the stench of Kon's exploitation of their children.

Aunty K.K. said...

Where did you find out about this information?? (About Kate coming to Ontario,Canada?)
Do you know where I could find this 'upcoming event'..so, If I'm off I can go and 'state my peace'..thankyou.
also--does anyone know if there's any link to "upcoming events"?? Thanks again!



Tess H. said...
When will people wake up (and especially women)?

I see that Kate has made appearances at some non-church events in the past but is scheduled to appear at quite a few more in the future. For example, she is scheduled for a Women's Lifestyle Show in Ontario, Canada in March. Herbal One Weight Management Nutrition Centres is the sponsor and tickets are $10 for general admission to the lifestyle show but you need special $40 tickets to hear Kate talk. I'm amazed that anyone would spend any money to see/hear her but $40?? The woman doesn't hold any secrets except how to scam stupid people.

Anonymomma said...

I'm by no means religious, but I also don't appreciate the holier-than-thou attitude that prevails here. If you want to use the fact that she exploits her kids as the basis of comparison, maybe you come out on top. However, I don't recall Kate spending hours on an internet message board making nasty, exaggerated comments about someone she's never met before. Do you come out on top in that comparison?

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You're right, Kate's too busy making nasty, exaggerated comments about her own children to people she's never met before on national television.

Anonymomma said...

In regards to those who question about the Gosselin children and their (acording to their parents) non existant college funds:

http://www.ltgovernor.state.pa.us/ltgovernor/cwp/view.asp?a=1147&q=440450

From the above

Lt. Governor Knoll Remarks
"Gosselin Six" Birthday Party
May 12, 2005

There is no need to be coy about this celebration today.

This is far more than a birthday party. It is recognition that the Gosselins have given a whole new meaning to the concept of Mother’s Day!

I am a proud, outspoken, no-doubt-about-it fan of the great treasures of Pennsylvania. I can bend anyone’s ear about Valley Forge National Park or Independence Hall or the Library Hall or the Pocono’s, or Pennsylvania Dutch Country or the Carnegie Institute, or a hundred other places---but today, in this place, at this time, the Number 1 Pennsylvania treasure is the Gosselin Six.

I’ve been asked often: “Who are the best-known people in Pennsylvania?”

The temptation is to answer with names like Benjamin Franklin, Marlan Anderson, Arnold Palmer, Grace Kelly, Johnny Unitas, Margaret Mead---so many others---but the short-form response about Pennsylvania’s best known people is simply to say: Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel, and, of course, their beautiful big sisters, Cara & Madelyn.

My amazement continues. When this hockey team was born a year ago, I instantly recalled the responsibility and workload I experienced in raising four children---and their arrivals were spread out over a period of time.

To have six show up at the door on the same day, each saying, “Feed me. Clothe me. Shelter me. Guide me.” ---well, that is a challenge of staggering dimensions.

But a challenge the Gosselins have energetically accepted.

And so has the “village.”

By that I mean the “It-takes-a-village” reference Hilary Clinton made so famous. The way friends and neighbors, and in many instances, the whole state, have rallied around this family is a very special story.

As Don Harold once said, babies are such a nice way to start people!

I’ve always believed that a baby is God’s opinion that life should be regarded as precious, and that no child should be starved for food, for education, or for love.

Every year in Pennsylvania we welcome over 140,000 new babies. That the Gosselins chose to escalate that number dramatically in 2004 is an occasion worthy of all the celebration we can bring it.

I try to picture 49 years from now when Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel will get together for their 50th birthday party. There will be more candles at that event than there were at the Vatican a few weeks ago. It will look like the runway lights have been turned on at an airport.

Somewhere in between this birthday and that one, there will be a lot of other milestones to celebrate -- multiplied by six. Six first days of school, six first dates, six drivers’ licenses, six college tuitions…

I know that all parents think about these milestones, especially how they are going to provide their children with a college education. For Kate and Jonathan, I’m sure they think about this often.

That is why, for my gift to the Gosselin Family on this very special occasion, I am opening accounts for all eight of the Gosselin children through the Tuition Account Program, which I had a hand in creating when I served as Pennsylvania State Treasurer.

Contributions to these accounts will accrue throughout the children’s lives and be available to them once it comes time to attend college.

If you would like to make a contribution to the Gosselin Family’s TAP account, you can do so by making your check payable to “TAP 529,” writing “Gosselin” in the memo portion of the check, and sending your contributions to: Gosselin Sextuplets and Twins Accounts, TAP Bureau, 218 Finance Building, Harrisburg, PA 17120. More information on the Tuition Account Program can be obtained by calling 1-800-440-4000 or by visiting the Treasury website and clicking on Tuition Account Program.

Happy Mother’s Day, Kate and Jonathan. Pennsylvania is proud of you and this wonderful six-pack whose birthday we honor today. Congratulations, and many blessings for a healthy, happy, and prosperous future for your family!

jojow said...

I read through the list of all the free stuff they were getting - especially the first year. What did they need to buy? Why did they need so much money?

I have 26.1 week twins - now 20 months old. I just added up what we spent on specialized formula and pedisure and diapers/wipes last year - $2500 - and another $420 in food that they didn't eat.

In the long article about a day in their life, she mentioned it took 45 minutes to feed all 6 kids. Does she have any idea how lucky she is. Many preemies have serious eating issue. They have trouble with their bottles or never take to solids well. Both our girls came home on nose feeding tubes and narrowly avoided surgical stomach tube placement. It used to take us 30 minutes to get one baby to eat ONE OUNCE. We did a two hour feeding schedule for a while from 6am til midnight. It took an hour to feed the girls. So every other hour, we fed. I was home by myself - and I pumped for 8 months.

I just can't believe how much she complained about everything in that article. All she did was whine. I think that is what bothers me the most about Jon and Kate. They seem so completely unaware of how incredibly blessed they are to have healthy HOM. All they can do is complain about how hard it is.

Hoot said...

"She promises she wants Medicaid to pay for the nurse for only one more year, and by then the couple will be able to handle their brood on their own."

And that has YET to happen.

FXfanatic said...

I've seen a couple of comments regarding Kate's book signing at a Houston area Barnes and Noble last night. They say that Kate left soon after arriving possibly due to a rude comment being made. It will be interesting to see if more comments/information are shared regarding this.

Finally someone (yeah Houston) had the nerve to burst her bubble a little.


YAY, HOUSTON!!!
Where can I read about this? I hope somebody comes forward and tells us details.

Schadenfreude

honeyhush said...

I had to look twice when I saw this article. I thought for sure it was about Kate. It's from Parent Dish about a mother who admits she doesn't love her daughter. I can't believe she would speak publicly about this. I often wonder if Kate has this same problem. She seems to spend a lot of time away from her children and it doesn't even seem to bother her.

http://www.parentdish.com/2009/01/22/mother-admits-she-doesnt-love-her-daughter/?icid=200100397x1217888706x1201100482

freedom of the press said...

Parsley said...
Regarding the judge not lest ye be judged quote tossed around. First, those saying that had better go look in the mirror. You are judging the people here so if it's a sin, you just did. Secondly, you must not have read a lot of St Paul's letters. If Christians aren't supposed to judge (in the way you interpret it) why was St Paul sending letters of correction to all those churches in the early days?

1/24/2009 5:39 PM

Totally agree.
BTW, isn't KON judging by tossing out family and friends? Hmmmmmm Sheeple?? Seems they are awfully judgmental to me.

marypoppins said...

Im still a bit wow-ed on how J and K carried on about Maddy's teeth.

Ok, yes they do need braces, but why did they have to make fun/sound effects repeatedly.

One day she will see this and I wonder how her parents will explain the unkinds words. Editing??

I can just picture Michelle Dugger or Jodi in the same position.

I bet she would say "oh J___'s teeth are coming in and just need some help so that they come out nice and straight.

Diane said...

This is the only information I've found about her leaving the Houston book signing:

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/9709787.aspx

In the beginning it says Kate left because the line died down but then someone else stated there was still 200 people in line around 6:45 (When the B&N staff said she left).

Sophia said...

This came from an article on KoreAmjournal.com from May 2008. It may have been posted here back when it came out so sorry if it's repetitive.

As for their rising celebrity status, Kate says the little kids don’t understand that they’re on television and the twins don’t mind the circumstances so much, although Mady sometimes complains when the kids talk about the show at school. “Just like with everything else, she’s either hot or she’s cold,” Kate says.

my9cats said...

Anonymomma said...
In regards to those who question about the Gosselin children and their (acording to their parents) non existant college funds:

http://www.ltgovernor.state.pa.us/ltgovernor/cwp/view.asp?a=1147&q=440450.........

Now I am not from PA so I may be wrong, but my interpretion of the accounts being opened is that it is strictly that: an account set up where people can make donations to, not that PA is footing the bill for the tups education. Believe me I am NOT taking KON's side in this but I do believe there should be clarification as to whether the tups college education (and that's if they even decide to attend)is fully paid for or dependant upon kind people contributing $$ to the accounts PA set up. But even if no donations were made, with the size of KON's family they will get financial aid up the kazoo. There is no need for KON to act so desperate. Just another KON. These people are unreal.

lifeoriley said...

Re: marypoppins--
Exactly-- Michelle Duggar woould never have ridiculed one of her children's teeth in the manner that J&K did. Sometimes, it's not so much WHAT the G's do, it's HOW they do it. If they had a little more grace, humility, and kindness and a little less excess materialism, fame/publicity seeking, exploitation of their kid's private monents-- they would not be creating the kind of backlash that they are.

zoey said...

I was just watching the original show that Aired. Surviving Sextuplets and Twins. Well, When it shows the family go to Sams Club, i couldnt help but notice while they were crying about the prices and Kate saying she is afraid of how much she spends Yada yada yada.... Anyway, i notice that Jon had put in their cart a video game called Call of Duty. (this is not at all a childs video game) and its a Very expensive video game.
Clearly, their priorities have always been off.

lisak said...

Regarding the first show that aired.. J&K said all the way through the show how much diapers, baby food, food etc..They failed to add to that complaint that they had recieved free diapers for the first 2 years, and gift cards for just about everything else they could need. Even on the first show they Konned and lied about everything just to make it seem as though they were about to starve to death. No wonder the people of PA were pissed off.

Molly said...

One of the posters asked where you can see the clips of the family in their new home after the sextuplets were born...I would love to see that too...where can I find that?

RuthinVA said...

Diane said...
This is the only information I've found about her leaving the Houston book signing:

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/9709787.aspx

In the beginning it says Kate left because the line died down but then someone else stated there was still 200 people in line around 6:45 (When the B&N staff said she left).

1/25/2009 5:43 AM
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The more I hear about Kate the more she reminds me of a bully from elementary school. You know the one, in their own element they take things to the extreme and continue to bully, but as soon as they are approached about their behavior they tuck their tail between their legs a run. If this truly did happen because of a comment someone made, I thought Kate didn't pay attention to bad comments. Kate, you know if you expect to become a brand you need thicker skin, you know that kind of skin you are so apt at showing on TV. In my opinion if running off was her answer it only gives credence to her inability to handle situations. It is easy to hand off a misbehaving child to their father or alienate a relative, but some day Kate will have to follow through on a situation on her own. Kate never seems to take the best path she always takes the easy path.

Quiltart said...

FWIW, An online friend posted on another blog, with photos of Kate, that she met Kate at this signing in Houston and that when she left the store around 6:45 p.m. Kate was still smiling, talking and signing books and there were about 200 people in line.


Diane said...
This is the only information I've found about her leaving the Houston book signing:
http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/9709787.aspx
In the beginning it says Kate left because the line died down but then someone else stated there was still 200 people in line around 6:45 (When the B&N staff said she left).

1/25/2009 5:43 AM

RuthinVA said...

Sophia said...
This came from an article on KoreAmjournal.com from May 2008. It may have been posted here back when it came out so sorry if it's repetitive.

As for their rising celebrity status, Kate says the little kids don’t understand that they’re on television and the twins don’t mind the circumstances so much, although Mady sometimes complains when the kids talk about the show at school. “Just like with everything else, she’s either hot or she’s cold,” Kate says.

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Why can't Mady have her own opinions? Why do they have to align with Kate's opinions? The only reason is so Kate can continue her show and make the world think everything is wonderful.

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