Twins Play Mommy, December 8

Monday, December 8. The twins are excited when Jon and Kate give them an opportunity to be a mommy to the sextuplets for an entire day. But as they try to guide, feed, and instruct their younger siblings, they soon learn that the grass isn?t always greener on the other side.

30 minutes.

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Corinne said...

This is the first episode I've watched in a few months - just because I think Cara and Mady will be so much better!

Exhausted said...

Is it me, or does this episode feel like it was filmed much earlier? That is, did they do a few fillers earlier to fill in the time when they'd be moving to the Branch Davidian luxury compound?

momof3 said...

Seven minutes in and i already want to shut this off.... These poor tup's cant eat without a bib and cant brush their own teeth. I have a 4yr old son and he would be humiliated if I still used bibs and brushed for him..........these poor kids!!!!!

Meg said...

Are these kids always this loud? I am a mother of 6 and these kids speak like dirt to one another, and their parents and they are always loud.
Kate just said she is the problem solver. I guess this is when she isn't too exhausted to even know there's a problem.

ashley said...

It does seem like its filmed a long time ago. Also, so far its very telling as to what really goes on at home.

Nellie's Mom said...

Maddy says: "We're going to forget about Joel. Forget about Joel."

Wow!! How realistic!! It's just like Kate is there!

I feel bad for Joel. And I feel bad that Maddy (IMHO) has probably learned some unfortunate behaviors and ideas from Kate.

Carp said...

YIKES!!! All yelling so far on the show.

And I agree, it does seem like it was a while back that it was filmes.

May Girl said...

Ugh...bibs!!!
Did you hear Jon say that the little ones do not respect their elders? Are you kidding me? Why, why would they put the twins in that position of mommy?

Ex KON Fan said...

Shouldn't Alexis be speaking with better grammer? She is four and a half after all?

sammysam said...

Is this good TV?

If so maybe someone could film me and Mr. Sam eating dinner. Then we could afford a Sampound.

Lee said...

I have watched 20 minutes. So much screaming. A noghtmare on Elm Street!

ashley said...

Wow those kids are something!

Kristie said...

Oh goodness Kate looks like she stuck Elmer's Glue in her hair to keep it in place today...

Carrie said...

They were going to let two seven year olds cook with the oven unsupervised??? Are these people crazy?

Karen said...

I watched about five minutes. Mostly it was trash talk about how "mean and ugly" Mady gets when the little kids aren't interested in her activities; "forget about Joel"; screaming.

My husband came in as I was watching and I made a comment about these people living off their kids. He said, "It's all they can do to survive, I bet." I said, "They used to have jobs," and when that didn't convince him, I added, "They film the kids on the toilet."

He said, "Ew. That's just creepy."

Jillybean said...

Is it me or is she trying to set the girls up to fail? Getting them to make a meal which requires a stove they don't use etc... They wanted to teach them a lesson not a life skill.

Since when did it take a degree and all day to switch out summer clothes for winter.

Kay said...

Mon Dieu! That dig at the very end. I wonder what that was about.

ztatart said...

I think this was at least taped before the garage sale...seems they had a lot of bins in the garage and I would think some of the clothes Kate was putting in te bins were some sold at the sale?!?!
As for Kate....was she serious when she called Jon the screamer?!?! ummm...HEEEELLLLLOOOO?!?!

Carp said...

I love how they say the girls gave up on being the mom for the day. Maybe Mady did but Cara wanted to do it. It was just that Mady was taking over.

Everything Mady was asked to do she'd say no.

The Other Ashley said...

This episode is exactly what I thought it would be.
"Kate does so much work! Not even two seven year old twins can keep up!"
Just another opportunity for Kate to show everyone how "hard" her life is!
I like at the end when she says that the twins couldnt even last a whole day. Well, Kate, they arent mommies! Youre the mommy and those are YOUR kids to be taking care of. Ugh, i cannot STAND this woman. She acts so entitled.

AnnaK said...

Wow! I expected to see the twins sitting in white chairs and yelling at the 'tups. I did see yelling, but I also saw them interacting. Far more than Kate.

M said...

I think this is an interesting episode idea. I think it is good for older siblings to better understand what it takes to take care of their younger siblings. Could also help Cara and Mady connect more with the little kids. I am interested to see what happens. It also kinda makes me wonder what it would have been like to be in charge of my little sister for a day when we were kids, although we were closer in age then the Gosselin kids are (I'm 3.5 years older).

Diane said...

It's very telling that the way Cara and Mady acted towards each other during this episode is pretty much EXACTLY the way Jon and Kate treat each other. But they are too blind to see it.

StephF said...

What a annoying show! The eposide was the worst!!

Kristie said...

Oh I would have loved to see Mady in the white chair yelling. HAHAHA

Really if I have children and they behave this way I have no idea what I would do with myself. I know it's the way they were raised but my goodness all the screaming and tantrums.... I really wish someone would help them.

Mandy said...

I'm glad we got to see Kate switch out the old Gymbo clothes to the new Gymbo clothes.

Maybe next time we can watch her change the toilet paper roll or maybe unload the groceries. Interesting stuff! *rolls eyes*

dizzykitty said...

Was it just me, or did it seem like Kate basically set up the twins to fail at being Mommy for a day? God knows SHE doesn't make a hot lunch, yet she's requiring these 8-year-olds to use the oven???

Snark said...

That was painful to watch. All the yelling at each other was just too much.
Not being Mommy for the day sure didn't stop Kate from belittling Jon though.

JulieAnne said...

Cara seems absolutely miserable. And Mady is seriously mal-adjusted. I felt so bad for them flipping out/crying on-camera, and knowing that it will be preserved for the entire world (not to mention their schoolmates) to see. I can't decide which is worse:Kate and Jon looking back on this one day and having regrets, or Kate and Jon looking back on this one day and having no regrets whatsoever...

sdf said...

You can tell this show was taped a while back. They still have the yard sale boxes in the garage.

dizzykitty said...

Mady: "I just want someone to LISTEN to me!!!" Poor kid.

Kristin said...

I could not believe that Kate told Jon that he is the yeller and she listens to the kids individually. Who is she trying to fool? Other than Hannah, it is not too often she is one on one with the kids. Also, if she (or Jon for that matter) are really listening to their children they should have disciplined Mady. In past episodes, they always showed the kids in time out, but now they are never punished. I guess Kate was just too concerned about going upstairs and relaxing on the sofa to care. And poor Cara, I think the produces care more about her feelings than her own parents.

blueyedangel1207 said...

This episode was nothing but pure chaos. The girls can read so why couldn't Kate write down the schedule and have the girls follow it?

My 6 year old asked me if she could play mommy for a day to her 3 year old brother and told her no. Why would I subject my 6 year old to that?

wildabeast said...

I think that the G' do have a personal chef, that makes food for the week for them. Did you see the pre-made chicken that the twins pulled from the fridge?

babeeberry said...

I'm convinced more than ever that whomever is editing these episodes totally hate Kon. This episode should never have aired! All the twins did was yell and scream at the tups, at their parents and each other. Is there poor behavior ever addressed?? Does Jon EVER speak nicely to any of the children? And Kate...for goodness sakes, take some vitamin B and STOP telling us how exhausting it is sitting on your million dollar rump. This was only aired because we are always saying we want to see more of the kids, so I wonder when Kate will decide to "update" her looks and get a new hairdo? I'll bet the title will be something like "Kate rids herself of her exhausting hair, and hello to a new do!!" This family is a trainwreck...way to go Jon and Kate!

Meg said...

Let me know if my recap is ok -
"FORGET IT JOEL" "STOP IT" "I ALMOST CUT MY PINKIE OFF" "NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO" "STOP IT"
WAH WAH WAH WAH

And lest we not forget Kate - "I'm exhausted"

Chris said...

Did anyone see when Jon beaned Collin with the soccer ball in the backyard and didn't even say sorry to him or anything? Collin was crying and said he was going inside. But when Jon hit Leah with the soccer ball he ran right over to her and picked her up and hugged and kissed her! Geez!

Caro said...

Did anyone notice how tired Kate acted the whole episode? I dont think I heard her say she was 'exhausted' but she had no energy at all. It might just be me, but did anyone else notice this?

blueyedangel1207 said...

Oh I would have loved to see Mady in the white chair yelling. HAHAHA
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In a way Maddy did just that by sitting in the basement watching TV. Only she wasn't yelling she was just sitting.

Exhausted said...

Remember when the show was just a natural slice of life and not a production crew brainstorming a list of show ideas that would be cute?

It's natural for the twins to want to play Mommy, but maybe only for 10 minutes. It's absurd to have them cooking for and tending to 6 kids. My little girl likes to pretend she's a waitress for a few minutes, but I don't go and drop her off at Harry's Diner and pick her up after the lunch shift!

How can they have so many kids and not have one clue about children?

May Girl said...

I also thought that Kate was setting the twins up for failure with the lunch. That was too much to expect from a young child...read a recipe, follow the recipe and then cook it in the oven. No 7 year old should be working with an oven. It was Kate's plan that they wouldn't be able to do it and they needed Kate to finish.
You think she would have let them make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches so as not to overwhelm the twins. There is something definitely wrong when a mother needs for her daughters to know how hard the mother's life is.. This has to be the worst show yet.

Lisa Marie said...

Just when I think the show can't get any worse...
my goodness!

Poor Joel...he wouldn't kick the ball because it had mud on it. Instead of his dad explaining to him that it was okay to kick the ball, he talks to him like a bully..."get over your phobia." Geez, JON, do you think he picked up that phobia from your CRAZY ASS WIFE?!

What was the shots of Hannie and her snotty head bobs/turns?

Poor Kate must of needed stroking. She had to tear her older daughters down to feel better about herself. She knew to ask Hannie alone, to assure her the answer that would stroke her overblown ego!

This episode should have been entitled,
"How we can make Mady and Cara look bad on T.V."

Lisa

Leslie said...

I also agree that this was a dumb premise for an episode. I didn't watch, but I've caught up on here. I really think they're stretching here. They're trying to prove how hard their job is, so they put two CHILDREN in charge?! Of course Mady and Cara weren't going to succeed, and according to Jon and Kate, it just "proves" how hard their job is. Puh-leese! I have five children and my sister has seven. Granted, neither of us has multiples, but we both work full-time. We both cook meals (daily), do laundry (daily), read to our children (daily), and have family Bible time (daily). Nobody's giving us a TV show, because it would be hideously mundane. Just like this one has become. I know their circumstances are unique, but now that the kids are more self-sufficient, the show is done. It was much more interesting when the tups were babies and Jon/Kate really DID have their hands full.

Harriet said...

Personally I thought it was the stupidest idea yet. The eight year olds didn't ask to have siblings. Kate wanted them. Eight year olds don't need to be taught how tough mom's life is. That's mom's problem. The twins don't need to be moms - just a set up for disaster to crank out another episode.

SkippyMom said...

1. Who has their teeth brushed for them at 4.5 yo and IN THE KITCHEN?

2. Did anyone LOVE that Kate said she was "just like Cara and tried to work everything out with the tups" She wasn't at all like Mady?

Where did Mady get this behavior from?

3. The meltdowns were outrageous.

4. The lunch cracked me up...I told my husband watch it will be 8 grapes, 4 crackers and a slice of cheese...I was amazed at the stuff she attempted to feed them - and who...please someone tell me WHO makes organic american processed cheese slices [which they put on top of the food] Never seen them. I am sure they exist.

5. The screaming. The hitting. When Mady put her hand up to one of the tups mouth's to get her to hush up? Bwuh?....

6. John hits one of the boys with a soccer ball and blows it off...hits a girl and has to run up and console...awwwww....[sorry I can't/don't want to tell them apart...the twins were easy today because of the color of their clothes and the timbre of their screaming and complete bailing]

This is only the third episode I have watched in THREE SEASONS [want to clarify I did not say years.... I said seasons....seasons. This is season 3]This is ridiculous.

My husband went to take a Motrin and told me that he never wants to see this clan again.

I have to agree. This was LOUD, obnoxious and over the top annoying.

I rather like the recaps and the commentary. [Except for comments on her hair...yes it looks bad, no it isn't getting any better, yes ad nauseum it sucks...let's move on...giggle....]

That said, I am done. I can't do it anymore. It is too stupid and mind numbing to watch.

chicago teacher said...

Question for the parents out there - how much of a young child's wardrobe needs to be swapped out season to season? Wouldn't the kids grow out of most of their clothing from the previous year? We know they don't do hand-me-downs so what gives?

Snarkygirl said...

Both Cara and Mady need serious help. Mady has a serious anger management problem and Cara is simply sad and pathetic. Both are screaming for validation that they matter. I feel so very sorry for these girls. They are going to have major relationship issues when they are adults. Really painful to watch.

dizzykity said...

What may have worked better was if Mady was given 3 tups, and Cara was given the other 3 tups. I would be curious to see which group withstood its own implosion.

Shirmeen said...

Ahh what a disaster that episode was
I totally enjoyed watching the new program "twins twins and sextuplets". the parents are so much nice to their kids, the way they corner them, they feed them, they treat them wow... and they have a special child too but they never complained about "how exhausted the day was" or blah blah
... it was my last episode today.. i think i need something good out of my life not the screaming parents and fighting kids... thats enough

wilma said...

Kate just picks every opportunity to belittle Jon and undermine him in front of the kids. Case in point when Jon told Hannie to be quiet. Kate corrected Jon and told him to be quiet. That is right no one talks to precious Hannie like that. No wonder the kid do not respect Jon. This episode was udder non-sense. Who wants to watch 6 children with foul mouths, multiple melt downs, and bad table manners interact with each other. On second thought where was the prayer before the meal, like they did in the 4th of July episode? This family is a put on, full of lies. They were eating a meal prepared by the personal chef from the fridge in the garage. No craft service table. Where would they put the craft servie anyway. They filmed the whole house including the garage and no craft service. Where is the table in Kate's bedroom? But what we did see is the twins pull pre-made food from the chef out of one of the fridges. This family is a full of lies.

Rory said...

The lunch looked very yummy! I liked how Kate thought ahead about making Cara and Mady feel as though they were 'cooking' in their jobs as mommy.

Jen said...

A previous commenter hit the nail on the head -- this exercise was to teach the girls a "lesson" rather than actual life skills. It was to rub in their faces that they can't do what Kate does.

She set those kids up for failure. Jon noted that the younger kids don't respect Mady and Cara. Well, it's up to the parents to instill that respect in them! For example, when the kids began to show their projects to Kate, she should have said, "Mady's in charge, go ask her if this is okay."

Ugh. So annoying.

sick of them said...

I'm glad my satellite isn't working and I can't watch this week. It sounds extremely annoying! But isn't it usually? I want to be entertained when I watch tv, not annoyed and stressed out!

RuthinVA said...

Did Kate actually think that two children could be the mother of 6 4.5 year olds for day?
She acted as though her parental skills were validated because 2 children could not be the mother of 6. Kate I hope you are a better mother than 2 elementary school children. Because they couldn't handle the situation does not mean you can!

KimberlyCO said...

Classic Kate....
"Jon- Cara had more patience with the kids she takes them aside and actually listens to the kids"
"Kate Mady has very unrealistic expectations"
"Kate That's more like you"
"Jon That's Mady"
"Kate That's you
"Jon -and you"
"Kate- No I'm more like Cara, I try to hear the problem and solve it"
"Jon- Ok" (notice the look o Jons face)
"Kate- I do!! your the screamer"
"Kate- No comment from you evidently"
"Jon- No, I'm not going to say anything"

Goodness!! I think Kate really believes the stuff that comes out of her mouth, will someone please get this woman a copy of season one and 2... Pronto!!!

Emmasmom said...

Geesh! Looks like Kate lost it about the tater chips. Boy, does she let Jon have it! Is the number of chips really that important? Then she hacks away at a slab of meat or something.

Why does Jon put up with Mady's disrespectful, mean behavior? At least he tries to correct her, but it ain't easy. Copying her mom maybe?

On the next epi, Kate says she always wanted to be Korean. Strange. Kind of an empty "wish" since she is what she is.

Can't remember ever wishing to be what I'm not, espec. someone of another nationality! Silly, silly, silly!

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

What a dysfunctional family! I had to put my television on closed-caption because those kids were so loud. Mady's attitude does not seem to be getting any better. It is good to see Jon playing outside with the kids though. It's sad that Kate couldn't join them. Why couldn't Kate wait to switch out clothes when the kids went to bed?

beachluvin said...

"...please someone tell me WHO makes organic american processed cheese slices [which they put on top of the food] Never seen them. I am sure they exist."
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They don't call it American Processed Cheese "FOOD" for nothing! They can't even label it pure cheese!!!!

RuthinVA said...

Snarkygirl said...
Both Cara and Mady need serious help. Mady has a serious anger management problem and Cara is simply sad and pathetic. Both are screaming for validation that they matter. I feel so very sorry for these girls. They are going to have major relationship issues when they are adults. Really painful to watch.

12/08/2008 6:52 PM
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You know there is a serious issue when Jon or Kate say very little and Mady and Cara start to cry, but the Film Crew can ask a like question and both Mady and Cara answer it like children of their age.

sammysam said...

chicago teacher said...
Question for the parents out there - how much of a young child's wardrobe needs to be swapped out season to season? Wouldn't the kids grow out of most of their clothing from the previous year? We know they don't do hand-me-downs so what gives?

THANK YOU! It's been a while since I had 4 year olds, but as I remember most of the clothing was to small and had to be given away after a season.

Teryn said...

Kate flips out on Jon for pouring too many chips on the plates, and tells him to think like an adult, and in the next shot you see her doing what? Pouring the kids more potato chips!!! What a moron.

I'd love to see her on celebrity boxing one day and Tonya Harding kicks the chit out of her.

RuthinVA said...

Teryn said...
Kate flips out on Jon for pouring too many chips on the plates, and tells him to think like an adult, and in the next shot you see her doing what? Pouring the kids more potato chips!!! What a moron.

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I thought that was organic microwave popcorn, I could be wrong. What went through my mind was chips and popcorn boy, that's healthy.

Marley said...

beachluvin said...
"...please someone tell me WHO makes organic american processed cheese slices [which they put on top of the food] Never seen them. I am sure they exist."
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They don't call it American Processed Cheese "FOOD" for nothing! They can't even label it pure cheese!!!!

12/08/2008 7:06 PM

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Horizon (organic) makes all kinds of cheese slices, found at Whole Foods. One of my (many many) beefs with Kate and hypocrisy at its finest.) She proclaims to clip coupons but anyone who shops Whole Foods knows that there is nothing carried in their stores that is in the 'weekly flyers' or coupon sections in the Sunday papers. Whole Foods doesn't give out coupons. She doesn't shop the regular stores, she shops Whole Foods. P&G would love to know about this, I'm sure!

richgirl said...

I dont see why Kate makes such a big deal about the number of chips that Jon gives the kids. In the next scence you see her pouring popcorn on the kids plates. Chips vs popcorn. I never heard of eating popcorn for lunch. I dont think she knows a thing about nutrition based on that meal she gave to the the kids. As far as budgeting, the bread that she made the sandwich with looked pretty expensive. Does her sponsers watch the show. She is not practing what she is telling the public. Another thought. Why couldn't she of went out and played with the kids instead of parking it on her huge marshmellow throne in the livingroom? Kate has no interest in her children. She makes up busy work ie switching out the clothes so she does not have to interact with them. With all the help that they have you would think that they could do that instead of Kate. That way Kate can play with all the kids that she so desperately wanted. Playing with your children is a better way of showing them that you want them than a faux wedding.

shelbysmom said...

Who brushes their teeth in the kitchen? They were nowhere near the sink. Do they not use water and toothpaste or spit? It looked very strange!!

ThreeFarmers said...

Kate gave the twins no guidance nor words of encouragement. She wanted them to fail to reinforce her own value to the family.

Pitiful.

FXfanatic said...

***the Branch Davidian luxury compound?

good one!

boogabooga said...

Cara needed to calm down a bit too! Everyone is harsh on Mady, but nobody says a word about Cara! Did you see how she reacted to how Mady wouldn't give her a paper plate? I think Cara needs to be a little more disciplined too, and so do the little ones!

Vanessa said...

chicago teacher said...
Question for the parents out there - how much of a young child's wardrobe needs to be swapped out season to season? Wouldn't the kids grow out of most of their clothing from the previous year? We know they don't do hand-me-downs so what gives?

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I wondered about this also. I have four kids and I've never switched their dressers from summer to winter. I do go through and remove clothes that I know won't fit next year and add their new stuff. All of their clothing fits in their drawers and closets for the four seasons.

Chrissy said...

I think this may have been the saddest episode I've ever seen of this show. Like many have said, it was just to justify all that Kate supposedly does and to make the girls fail. The screaming, hitting, tantrums and outright nastiness of this family is mind-boggling and it's not because they have 8 kids, it's because they have no respect for each other and no manners.

jellyroll said...

Cute, these kids ain't. They are entitled, spoiled, rotten children who are a direct product of their greedy parents. The sooner this show goes away, the better.

Emmasmom said...

Exhausted said . . . "My little girl likes to pretend she's a waitress for a few minutes, but I don't go and drop her off at Harry's Diner and pick her up after the lunch shift!"


This has got to be "Quote of the Week"!

FXfanatic said...

My little girl likes to pretend she's a waitress for a few minutes, but I don't go and drop her off at Harry's Diner and pick her up after the lunch shift!

Thanks for making me laugh out loud. Now I have to explain to my daughter why I'm laughing.
I hate when that happens.

momoffour said...

I have a little girl born two days after the tups and she was sitting by me tonight watching this episode and I asked her if she'd like to wear a bib like they did. She looked at me like I was a martian and said "No way!". Also I don't brush her teeth for her....she does it herself and I'll occasionally go over them and "help" a little. I thought it was odd to be brushing teeth in the kitchen.

Dee said...

Boy, I saw an encore presentation the other night of 'Twins, Twins and Sextuplets'. The Hayes tups (4 years old) are at least as mature as any of the Gosselin kids. Wish TTS was a series and not a one-time deal

beachluvin said...

Teryn said...
I'd love to see her on celebrity boxing one day and Tonya Harding kicks the chit out of her.
12/08/2008 7:12 PM
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This is sort of mean but how about a Christian Celebrity Boxing match with that crazy woman from Trading Spouses with the gap in her teeth, you know "The God Warrior" against Queen Katie Irene!!!!
They could pass the hat at the end of the match for "love offerings".

Chrissy said...

Vanessa said All of their clothing fits in their drawers and closets for the four seasons.
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Probably because you don't get roomfuls of free clothing that your kids only wear once, never to be seen again.

Jen said...

Carrie said...

They were going to let two seven year olds cook with the oven unsupervised??? Are these people crazy?
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Nope, we must not have watched the same show. Kate came down and helped them with the oven and she even said they would need help. What do you mean they were unsupervised?!?!


Also, I saw a comment about them brushing teeth in the kitchen. I dont see a problem with this at all. It is just easier to have a set of toothbrushes in there and brush them right after meals. Complaints about stuff like that seem like nitpicky to me.

C said...

Vanessa said...
chicago teacher said...
Question for the parents out there - how much of a young child's wardrobe needs to be swapped out season to season? Wouldn't the kids grow out of most of their clothing from the previous year? We know they don't do hand-me-downs so what gives?
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I wondered about this also. I have four kids and I've never switched their dressers from summer to winter. I do go through and remove clothes that I know won't fit next year and add their new stuff. All of their clothing fits in their drawers and closets for the four seasons.

12/08/2008 7:22 PM
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I have to do this too and I loathe it and I could so relate to what she was doing. I have those stupid Rubbermaid bins too that I put my kids clothes in (I have 5) and I also use those jumbo human size ziplocks so I can see which clothes and whose clothes are in them. In my case my kids have way too many clothes and alot don't even get worn and some are just too big during that particular season, so I save them for the next season.

If she's going to adopt, who knows, maybe she's saving some of the unworn or never worn clothes for the next lucky soul to come into that clan? Or maybe some of them were new clothes Mady and Cara never wore and she's saving them for the tup girls? I saw a stack of Gymboree tights next to her in Mady and Cara's closet she put aside. She was either going to sell the stuff at the garage sale (this was filmed before it obviously by looking at the garage scenes and the pile of junk in the center of the garage) or saving it.

Leah said...

I just love how when they accidently film a member of the production crew the screen gets fast paced and blurry until its on a kid. - and then who was that scary looking man that wasn't Jon when the tups were coming in from the garage who ran behind some stacked boxes?

What gave me a real headdache besides the screaming, was all the blurred out packages. But when a gymboree bag is shown, with little pants neatly displayed they linger on that shot for a while.

Seems like the real reason for this episode was for one long commercial for gymboree and GAP.

Seems that Kate got all the gymbo clothing early, and had to "organize" all the old clothes to sell on ebay.

Cheryl said...

I thought I saw the Juicy Juice blurred. Anyone else?

I have a great idea for an episode, Kate plays mommy for a change!

shel said...

I have a 7 yr old son and I still brush his teeth at night. He does them in the morning and I do them at night. I told the dentist this in September and he said to continue until he is 18. My response was oh gross but 4 yr olds do not have the ability to brush their teeth properly. If you read the instructions on a pkg of kids toothpaste it should say when they can write, not print, but write their name then they can brush their own teeth. No I dont brush his teeth in the kitchen but I have done it in the living room before and he went to the bathroom to rinse.

May Girl said...

Cheryl,
I think you are right about the Juicy Juice...it appeared that many things were blurred out. That is strange.
My DVR cut off the last few minutes of the show...did I miss anything good?

SmartyQ said...

Exhausted said... It's natural for the twins to want to play Mommy, but maybe only for 10 minutes. It's absurd to have them cooking for and tending to 6 kids. My little girl likes to pretend she's a waitress for a few minutes, but I don't go and drop her off at Harry's Diner and pick her up after the lunch shift!

Priceless! I snorted my seltzer up my nose.

I agree the twins were set up for failure. I do not understand why, on that particular day, lunch wasn't the usual filmed lunch of four peeled grapes, a hunk of cheese and two organic pretzels.
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My observations: Mady, as the 'mother,' behaved the way she's seen Queen Freebie Irene behave in her role. Cara behaved as Prince Ka-Ching.

I sat with mouth agape when QFI carefully explained how she listens to the children and tries to resolve any issues. I must have missed all of those episodes.

If Kon sit any future apart on that couch, they'll have to read their lines to each other via walkie talkies.

QFI reinforced Hannah's special position as the golden child. I hope Hannah enjoys these years because I suspect that QFI has chosen her to be the child who will care for QFI in her old age. Hannah will be the one who changes QFI's Depends, who must wipe away the drool, and who will have to listen to QFI saying 'Um, um, um' while contorting her now bony, arthritic hands in those strange spider-like positions she executes.

Finally, I have been obsessing over QFI's nose for several months. It started to look like Bob Hope's nose then, and it puzzled me. A friend showed me a picture of Richard Nixon, and I swear that's QFI's nose! I'm 99.9% sure she's had rhinoplasty, and she paid to get a Richard Nixon nose. Compare the two yourselves, and you'll see that QFI too is not a crook.

sunflowereyes said...

Well I have to say, I was also extremely irritated by this episode, and kept wondering if J&K are being sabotaged? This was not a pretty picture being painted by TLC. And don't tell me this is a "real" family because it's not. It's a hideously dysfunctional family.
In defense of Jon (although I have a laundry list of gripes against him), I think he would be a great dad if he had married a woman other than Kate. Someone more supportive, more logical, less irrational/just plain looney.
I actually find things about Jon that I like and admire, but like my husband says "a woman can make or break a man." And I think Katie Irene broke Jon.
I have a 6 year old daughter who makes these kids look demon-possessed. If she EVER acted like that...well, she wouldn't. Monkey see, monkey do. Those kids are imitating what they have seen, and KON are so BLIND. I would love for this family to go on Dr. Phil. I don't think it would be pretty.
One good thing I can say...Kate makes me feel like "Supermom" !!!!

Breanna said...

You could so tell the twins did not want to do this, despite Kate saying it was their idea. And for the love of God, why decide to do a hot lunch the one day the twins are making it? Of all the days to put some cheese, crackers and grapes on a plate and call it a day today was it. But no, we had to set the twins up for failure and have saint kate swoop in to save the day.

Seen the Light said...

About the clothes. Kate said swap out the summer clothes for the winter clothes. I don't think she meant that she had saved items from last year. I think that she probably stock-piled her free clothes and now they were finally in season. You know how most stores get clothes in long before the season actually starts. And did anyone else notice the absurd number of bags that were on the floor? They must get a ton of free clothes. If they are filming several days a week and all of the kids have enough clothes to not repeat outfits...

pickle said...

This episode was a nightmare. It clearly shows how there is no parenting going on at all. Everyone is screaming, yelling, the adults are imitating the kids and making ugly faces, speaking critically of one another as well as the children. Lovely for the world to see. Great that the twins and their meltdowns will be viewed by their classmates.

Jon and Kate have ZERO parenting skills in my opinion.

Sorry it was so taxing for Kate to empty out the drawers of free clothing and then re-fill them with more free clothing. Yes, she has a really tough life.

goredsox said...

A few observations:

1) Jon and the kids finally playing in that huge, gorgeous backyard instead of the driveway/garage which was no doubt not available due to yard sale stuff

2)Anybody who thinks that this show is not having a negative impact on Mady and Cara is in denial. I hate to say this but they were awful on this episode.

3)I agree with the other poster about the inappropriate camera angle while filming Mady downstairs WATCHING TV (thought they didn't watch TV Kate?). It sickens me that the camera crew, Jen the producer, and KON did not think to themselves :hmmmmmm, maybe we should ask Mady to sit up while filming this segment? Even without the cameras, I would never allow my kids to talk to someone while rolling around like that.


5) Again, Kate seemed zoned out this episode. She has to be either sedated/medicated or she should be if her mood swings are that drastic. And, it amazes me that Kate cannot see that Madelyn KATE Gosselin (yes, that is her full name) is not exactly like her. Did anyone hear Mady say "this was the worst day/morning ever!" Gee , wonder where she gets that negative attitude?

6)The "lovefest" between Kate and Hannah in the closet - gag. Nothing against Hannah - it's just the blatant favoritism on Kate's part is nauseating.

7) To the previous poster who asked about switching wardrobes : I do this with both my boys. At the end of each season, I go through all of their clothes to see what to put away/give away/throw away. I put them in either plastic bins (for hand me downs) in the basement or garbage bags for Goodwill. I then shop accordingly. And, for both boys it takes less than 30 minutes. Don't know why Kate needs all day.


8) About Kate shopping at Whole Foods (or Whole Paycheck as it's called)- what, no coupons ? Great choice Kate - definitely a place for the budget-minded.

9)Finally, I saw the kids getting milk (with their cereal!) and a HOT lunch. Seriously, when have we ever seen milk or hot lunches on that table?

10)Regarding brushing the kids teeth- in an earlier episode, Kate said she keeps a full set of toothbrushes downstairs so Jenny, er, I mean she, doesn't have to go upstairs to brush them. That they are doing so in the kitchen is odd.

11) What is up with those bibs ?!?!

Go away Kon said...

Kate is always saying how hard she works and how she is always the one taking care of things. She has set it up that way. She makes it impossible for anyone else to help her. She criticizes how anyone else does anything and tells them how she wants it done. It's amazing how perceptive kids are. I loved it when Cara said that they didn't get to really fix lunch because Kate did everything. And Kate had nothing to say in response. Kate even complained about how many chips Jon put on the kids' plates. Give me a break. Why would anyone want to help her when it's never good enough?

Mignon said...

jellyroll said...
Cute, these kids ain't. They are entitled, spoiled, rotten children


Too true! Mady is awful. Cara is pathetic. Hannah is manipulative. Alexis speaks like a two-year-old. Who does that leave? Oh yeah, all the others just scream constantly.

Meg said...

chicago teacher said...
Question for the parents out there - how much of a young child's wardrobe needs to be swapped out season to season? Wouldn't the kids grow out of most of their clothing from the previous year? We know they don't do hand-me-downs so what gives?
----------------------------------
I wondered about this also. I have four kids and I've never switched their dressers from summer to winter. I do go through and remove clothes that I know won't fit next year and add their new stuff. All of their clothing fits in their drawers and closets for the four seasons.


I have 6 and don't change out the clothes. I also don't have more than what they can wear in a week. Part of the closet is summer/part is winter. Every season I go through the closets and gather clothes to donate to charity (not sell in a garage sell for charity). This way I donate "in season" clothes, the closets are not a mess and I can keep track of things.

Marissa said...

It's so funny that companies use Kate as any type of spokesperson or that she gives parental advice. She complains about most parts of being a parent. And it drives me crazy that Jon and Kate never seem to "parent" their kids. They just yell and demand. I understand that they have eight kids so you can't use every misbehavior as a teaching moment but surely you can find the time to use some.

Also, I would like to see an episode where Kate is less focused on getting things done and more focused on interacting with her kids. It's okay if the house gets messy or if something gets done on another day. It just seems like she is always racing around trying to stick to the schedule and get the next thing checked off of the list. Take a minute to enjoy your children.

protect8 said...

If Figure 8 Productions can't film the Gosselins on an expensive vacation/publicity tour, they need to come up with something. So "Twins as Mommy for a Day" was probably an idea that promised conflict between all members of the Gosselin family and that means "good TV." It's all about "How do we get an audience?" And it worked. In this show the Gosselins were at a peak in regard to disrespect of one another, bullying, hitting and of course, there was Kate looking so exhausted in the chair after a quick shot of her taking some clothes out of a dresser drawer and putting them in a box.

Ah yes - it is so trying to go from summer wardrobe to winter wardrobe - at least for people who are dealing with tons of free clothes that have been given to them at the expense of their children's privacy.

I watched that one quick shot of Mady as she once again had a temper tantrum meltdown - her little face all screwed up; her anger palpable. She has been criticized on this board as if she was an adult. There are adults here talking about her as if she is responsible for her behavior and deserves to be bashed. But in reality, she is a little girl who is being exploited by her parents for profit. She deserves to be an 8 year old girl and not set up for failure as "Mommy for a Day" by Figure 8 Productions.

Mady should be protected by her parents. They should have recognized a few years ago that she came across badly on television. They've read the posts. They know what people are saying about her. We know this because they have acknowledged her dysfunctional behavior on camera. Yet, instead of protecting Mady they allow Figure 8 Productions and TLC to film her at her worst. If people can be so cruel about Mady on these boards, what do the kids at school say to her and about her. What do the parents of the kids at the school say about her? My God - why aren't her parents protecting her from this?

Oh that's right. According to Jon and Kate "God" has a "plan" for them that included medical science and intervention that resulted in a multiple births that led to a financial windfall that is all part of the PLAN even if it means sacrificing Mady's self esteem. Or better put - sacrificing Mady. And sacrificing all of their other kids.

These boards are interesting but isn't anyone else starting to feel really kind of icky after watching Jon and Kate. It's as if we should be doing something about this instead of just venting on a blog message board? As someone suggested, maybe we don't quit watching because we are feeling the tug in our gut (and heart) that we need to do something about the exploitation of the Gosselin kids. There really needs to be laws that protect the Gosselin children in the same vein that child actors are protected.

GWOP is criticized by Gosselin fans as being just a handful of people who are "jealous." Are we more people than a handful who really care about changing what is happening to the Gosselin children?

Just curious ....

teacher said...

What is the official email address to email TLC with concerns? I have to email to strongly ask " What the heck are they thinking"

OperaMom said...

She might have been packing away the summer clothes, but those winter clothes looked to be a lot of new-this-year Gymboree. I work there part-time, and I too put a lot of it out - on the shelves, several months ago!

pickle said...

Disturbing seems to be a good word to describe this episode.

What a mess said...

What a difference between the old episodes and the new ones! The old ones actually reflect their life. The new ones, while it is their life, feel so staged. It's obvious that the show should have ended awhile ago. This season has been horrible. It's either vacations, infomercials or "produced" family moments. Talk about beating a dead horse. On a different note-did they ever address on the show that Jon is not working anymore? Or did they just gloss over that, I remember that they briefly mentioned that Jon was working from home. I can't remember if they said anthing else about it.

Lisa said...

This episode was terrible! I should not be surprised but I think seeing the day to day stuff again really showcased how they are keeping the tups babies. I have 10 yr old twin girls and 4 younger kids ranging from 7-9 months...I know that my older girls could take over my day and it would run smoothly and they would have fun. Mainly because they all enjoy each other and therefore like each other. The bibs and highchairs are so WRONG at that age. Kids need to be allowed to mature to areas that are developmentally appropriate for their age. my 2 year old has not used a sippy, bib or highchair in a year! I think this episode sealed the deal (ok it was already sealed) that this show is completely detrimental to these children. And I think that J&K really need to think about the lasting damage they are causing these children.

DasMaedchen said...

I found tonight's episode rather upsetting. I haven't been watching lately, but decided to watch tonight. I wish I could UN-watch it.

What a stupid premise- hand over parental responsibilities to two seven year olds with apparent behavioral issues. Great idea.

The whole episode felt very mean-spirited and as somebody else already mentioned, chaotic.

What a sad, confusing household that must be. Children need order, routine, and a calm, loving environment where they know what to expect from their parents, and what is expected from them. There is so much yelling in that house! I understand that with so many children, the noise level is going to be higher than average, but there is so much ANGRY and upset yelling going on. It just seems so unhealthy.

Somebody else already pointed this out, but I too had an issue with the shot of Mady in the floor of their tv room, rolling around, spreading her legs, et cetera. She is an innocent, fidgety child, doing all the fidgety-child moves that most kids do, but it is not something that should be broadcast into living rooms across the nation because WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS WATCHING IT. There are a lot of sick, disgusting people out there.

Jon and Kate Gosselin do not protect their children. They isolate them and are raising all eight of them to be maladjusted, setting them all up for years and years of intense therapy -- but they are not protecting them.

I see such a miserable future for all ten of these people, and it is sad, because eight of them are innocent little children who did not ask for a life like that.

I have no respect for Jon or Kate, and no respect for TLC for allowing this garbage on their station. I like TLC as a whole, I love a lot of their programs, but this one continues to anger and horrify me.

The saddest part is that the damage is done now. Those kids will never become the people they were born to be. They have been changed for life.

Obviously there are children in the world suffering more greatly, but all children deserve a good life and a loving family. These kids may not be lacking in material wealth, creature comforts, and basic physical needs (food, shelter, clothing) but they are certainly being deprived of the things we all need to become decent, upstanding citizens:

Love, respect, consistency, compassion, empathy, on and on and on, they are missing out on so much.

ICExploitation said...

My husband noticed Mady's very dirty socks at the beginning of the episode and the tups' dirty bare feet - I guess Kate's house isn't as clean as she thinks.

How sad said...

I was just thinking about Jodi and Beth. It's obvious that both women really cared about the family and did a lot to help them. If the rumors are true and Kate has cut them out of their life because she didn't want anyone to profit off of her children, she must feel like there is something wrong with that. Yet she thinks it's fine for her and Jon to exploit them for profit. She acts like TLC or Figure 8 offering to pay them is taking away something she could have, like its money coming out of her own pocket. How greedy can you be?

I think they are constantly cutting people out of their life when they aren't of use to them anymore because they don't want anyone to get too close. They don't want anyone to know too much or to be able to contradict their lies.

Emily Tolliver said...

Holy Cow....Its only 10 mins in and all hell has broken loose. My 2 year old is expected to brush her teeth and then I will fill in the gaps. But I would NEVER do the whole thing.

"Just forget about Joel." That sums it up.

Did anyone else notice Aaden and Leah (or Alexis?) is left handed, very cool.

This epi. was a MESS!!!

Poor kids said...

What a weird life for the Gosselin children! They are followed around by a crew of people and now they are even being interviewed about what they're doing, what they just did, how they felt about it, etc. I also noticed that the kids seemed to be more aware of the cameras this episode. This just can't be healthy for young children. If only Kon, Firgure 8 or TLC would notice that.

balletbrat said...

Jon skipping over to Leah like a dweeb after he kicked the ball into her.

Most boring episode ever.

I really wish they'd grown the twins' hair out. I just do not like that cut.

beachluvin said...

Kate was not switching clothes for the seasons. She was packing for their move. Think about it, she mentioned it was October and they moved at the end of October.
They probably hired movers and Kate was just getting organized for them to come.
There were already boxes packed in the garage and plastic bins full of clothes.

awwwlittlemites said...

Jon and Kate make fun of their own children and they take delight in seeing their children upset. How very sad for EVERYONE involved in making this garbage and those watching it. Leave those poor little kids alone, let them have a life without cameras on their every move. I will no longer watch this show because this show should not be on the air and to continue watching it is just wrong on so many levels. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem....turn the channel and put an end to giving those 2 ungrateful, selfish, supposed adults the means to sit on their behinds and live off their kids. Go get jobs Jon and Kate, stop being cruel monsters and repent.

balletbrat said...

Oh gosh. Hannie hanging on top of Katie and her weave, saying I loveee youuu to each other, 56 gymbo bags next to them. Gag me.

Michelle S said...

Oh wow, what a show!!!! First episode i have sat and watched in weeks. Was a bit too much yelling,kids being rude to each other, but then again, kids are kids.. I did get a good chuckle though in a way-when Cara and Mady were 'making' lunch..The behavior is almost identical to my 10 and 12 yr old daughters. Mady is my Kristi who is 10-the one who stirs the pot of drama,then acts all innocent. And Cara is my Keri- the quieter one who just wants to help and is at the receiving end of sisters bad behavior. But i nip my Mady/Kristi behavior in the bud. I dont let it go on. I refuse to have my kids to behave that bad. Chaos is at my house too, just in half the amount..I even have to yell at times... Was great to see this episode was their life at home for once,but still..sheesh

Shannon said...

This episode just shows what bad parents John and Kate are. Mady is so needy for attention and is so uncontrolable, no wonder she is always miserable. Seems all Cara did was cry the entire episode. Meanwhile, John and Kate are too self absorbed to make a tv show to realize- I mean care- how miserable these two girls are. I thought both the girls were kind of bratty, but given the lack of parenting they are given, it's not really a surprise.

Did anyone catch that when John scolded the favored Hannie at the table, Kate quickly shut him up? Seems she did her duty to pay a bit of attention to the boys for a few episodes. Damage control must have been a success in her eyes. Now she was free to go back to the only kid in the family she really likes.

This show's concept was so bad it's obvious they are at the bottom of the barrel for material.

Today was the first time I've watched the show in weeks. Those kids were so miserable with all the crying and tamtrums, I actually turned the channel because I felt embarrassed for them. They should not have to have this kind of stuff on t.v. Then again if they did not have stage parents and helper bees raising them, these things wouldn't happen over and over.

GrammyPie said...

Did anyone else hear Cara say she wished it was just a Cara, Hannah, and Mommy day? Hmmmmm guess she knows who the favorite child is, and wants to be included in their little twosome. I too noticed Kate had a very apathetic look and attitude. Must have taken her meds. Mady whipping those plates deserved a time out. She has such a hateful demeanor.I agree it was a dismal show.

Nila said...

Anyone notice that the kiddos all had on Horton Hears a Who t-shirts? (when they weren't sporting the Gap pull-overs)

Did Juicy Juice back out as a sponsor?

Kristin said...

[i]I would love for this family to go on Dr. Phil. I don't think it would be pretty.[/i]

They were already on. Dr. Phil gave them free nanny service for a year.

Nila said...

I also wanted to add that if they insist on putting bibs on the tups, but serioulsy who puts a bib on a 4 year old to eat cereal at home, could they at least loosen the purse strings and buy them some new ones? They looked positively gross! They were all brown and stained on the back!

I do not understand why KON allows Mady to speak to them that way. I would never have been allowed to scream anything at my parents or smart off like she does. They have no structure towards the older children at all. Not even a simple, "we don't speak that way", nothing. Yet the tups are sent into the corner for getting in the wrong car or crying for their father when he leaves. Just ridiculous. I'm now convinced that on those two episodes that Mady was hardly shown in was not for her own good rather I think Kate was punishing her by not having her be on the show. They are just poor poor excuses for parents.

Sara said...

This episode reminded me why I got my tubes tied and adopted cats.

Veronica said...

Wow, I am amazed! A classic case of pulling straws here and saying whatever you want to say to make something out of nothing.

Bravo!!

Tess said...

First reaction: OMG!!!

Other thoughts:

When Mady overreacts or something, Kate has the nerve to say something to the effect 'Mommies don't do that.' Well, you do Kate! Maybe you need to watch yourself on tape and see how disgusting, hypocritical, unhappy, etc. you are! Now, one thing we haven't seen you do is work with the kids on projects or activities. But you sure do make your stand-ins Mady and Cara try to.

Kate has said in a recent article or interview that she loves her alone time. Then why on earth did you have children or why on earth weren't you satisfied with the first batch? Oh, I know because you are never satisfied/happy with anything. I would love to know what the doctor(s) that assisted with the fertility stuff think of the results of their work.

And I wonder if the companies involved with the show or involved with KON watch the show. It should be required. I think they would come to the same conclusion as we do (if they have a conscience) that maybe the almighty dollar ain't worth spreading the disease that KON has!

In conclusion: A lot of people stated that they were tired of seeing the family on trips. After tonight's episode at home, I'm just plain tired of this family!

Jerri said...

beachluvin said...
Kate was not switching clothes for the seasons. She was packing for their move. Think about it, she mentioned it was October and they moved at the end of October.
They probably hired movers and Kate was just getting organized for them to come.
There were already boxes packed in the garage and plastic bins full of clothes.

12/08/2008 9:31 PM


So what? Who cares if she was packing for the move or switching clothes? The kids were wearing summer clothes in this episode.

beachluvin said...

Since the Gosselins are so "un-green" and love to use those paper plates, I am surprised they didn't hit up Jon's father's friends for those temporary paper bibs they put on you at the dentist. I could just see it, different colored clips for the kids and a drawer full of those paper towel like disposable dentist bibs!

Patti said...

Then you're a perfect candidate for here Sara!

Katete said...

This is just me but I think that the cut were Hannah said "Nothing!" to Jon when he asked what were they playing, I think Hannah was being mean to Leah, and she and Alexis were sort of ganging up on her, because Leah was left behind... I also noticed this at the wedding episode when Leah said she wanted to play whatever Hannah was playing and when Leah climbed the back of the bench, Hannah ran away from her.

laura linger said...

I am 38 years old and a very accomplished cook. I love to be in the kitchen. Bon Appetit is my favorite reading material. Gordon Ramsay is my idol. There is nothing I like better than messing about in my kitchen.

That being said...

...I ate a roast beef and swiss cheese sandwich on dark rye bread for my lunch today.

No fuss, no muss, no extra work, no drama. No oven, no cooking, very little in the way of assembly, and it was delicious and satisfying in a way that none of the Gosselin meals ever seem to be.

Why was the lunch that those two little girls had to prepare so drastic? Whose bright idea was it to have them use the oven? What garbage were they making, anyway? (it wasn't garbage because the kids made it; it looked like a nasty dish, no matter who made it!)

Once again, Gosselin children were set up to fail by adults who are primed to profit from the ensuing drama. It's a disgusting spectacle. I got my love of cooking from my mother. She encouraged me in the kitchen. Mom and I have had our share of issues over the years; her encouragement of my love of cooking and being happy in the kitchen was never one of them.

Pure and utter disgust. There were only about eighty three other lunch ideas that could have been given to the twins to make.

SaveTheTwins said...

I truly wonder about people who have nothing better to do than rip into a pair of 8 year olds as "mean" and "pathetic." They are CHILDREN! Yes, Mady is angry and disrespectful. Yes, Cara is defeated and emotional.

HOW
ELSE
SHOULD
THEY
BEHAVE?

If you were Mady, being called mean and difficult by your parents on national television, how much respect would you show them? If Kate were your mother, wouldn't her antics make you angry? If you were Cara, being constantly ignored and shuffled around against your will, how emotionally stable would you be? If Jon were your father, wouldn't his spinelessness make you feel utterly defeated?

These two little girls who are doing the best they know how in an impossible situation. They don't deserve to be called names.

Allison Parker said...

Mady is a bit bratty in this episode and it is obvious that she got that from her parents, from lack of attention and discipline.

I felt bad for Mady when they were all sitting and eating and Jon and Kate were saying that it wasn't easy and they were saying hurtful words to Mady which made her cry and walk off the table. I felt so bad for her. Jon and Kate should be gentler parents.

I think Kate has no energy because she isn't eating anything. I noticed how shrunken her face looks and how gaunt her body is.

Another episode to prove how hard being Kate is. Even for one episode, Kate can't stop criticizing Jon. She married someone dumber than her to make her feel smart.

Katete said...

GrammyPie said...
Did anyone else hear Cara say she wished it was just a Cara, Hannah, and Mommy day? Hmmmmm guess she knows who the favorite child is, and wants to be included in their little twosome. I too noticed Kate had a very apathetic look and attitude. Must have taken her meds. Mady whipping those plates deserved a time out. She has such a hateful demeanor.I agree it was a dismal show.

_________________

Cara said "Cara and Leah mommy day, or Cara and Hannah mommy day."

Tami said...

Shortly after it began my 10 yr old was asking, "What's next? They get sent to be the first family on Mars? The show gives them 50 million to travel to space?" Even he knows this show is really stretching it. He also spent time throughout asking who I think is brattier, Mady or Cara and watching in disbelief at the meltdowns and horrible backtalk.

The scene with Kate and Hannie was nauseating. You get the impression Kate is so fed up with reading comments about Hannah being the favorite that she deliberately hammed it up with, "ooooh Hannie" gushing. Ick.

I don't believe she ever packs up clothes to store and wear again, nor do I believe they ever wear outfits more than once. She was likely gathering it for consignment. Just how long are these places that promised them free clothes, haircuts, etc, going to keep on going?

How can either of them justify that they don't work and are so vital at home with their "work" on the show? This made it clear they mostly just loaf around the house. They attempted to show how hard it is to be Kate, but that obviously fell flat with halfway intelligent people.

I recall in one of her recent magazine articles how she answered a question (probably a plant) about whether the twins help out. She said yes, just recently they surprised them by putting bibs on the tups and feeding them cereal and then KON looked at each other and said, "This is getting good". I commented then at magazine's comment section that they were clearly just plugging a future episode. This was not the twins' idea clearly. Just another stupid idea for a show. And why do they have to cook a meal when their normal meal consists of cold finger foods anyway?

AnnetteFun said...

It was filmed in Oct. Kate mentioned the month, and Jon had a Phillies shirt on (they were in the World Series and, ahem, WON in Oct.). On another note, J&K need to stop arguing and criticizing each other in front of those kids. They think the kids are oblivious, but I remember as a child being really upset when my parents argued.

Vix said...

Did you all notice that Kate was passing out pop-corn on the kids plates during lunch? WHAT?

Cindi said...

What do you all think about Kate's tooth brushing method? She doesnt have them rinse?

sadgirl said...

I came across this Kate quote. It is sad because she did CHOOSE to have many children when she had fertility treatments.

Q: What is the hardest issue you face as the mother of eight children?

A: Mothering is hard. Period. I never would have chosen to have eight children; I am a very happy by-myself person. The noise level, chaos and confusion are difficult. I also struggle with being able to attend to each and every little need of each child. I told myself to treat and care for each of my children as if he or she were an only child -- and that is difficult.

laurajean said...

I shut it off ten minutes into watching, too loud, too chaotic, too unruly....me thinks J&k and TLC edited the show this way to garner sympathy from the fans and reinforce that without KON's intervention the world would come crashing down....bulls**t.

RuthinVA said...

Prtect8 said...
There really needs to be laws that protect the Gosselin children in the same vein that child actors are protected.

GWOP is criticized by Gosselin fans as being just a handful of people who are "jealous.


____________________________


Protect8,
Okay, I'm with you. What do you want to do? We can write letters to the Penna. senators, congressmen and the governor. I'll sign my name. Just an idea, could someone that writes well do a couple of form letters and then we print, sign our names and mail. The only problem with this idea is a lot are not from Penna., so we will never reelect those officials, will that keep them from acting on our letters? If you have any other ideas let me know. I'll send my e-mail address through someone here.

Crystal said...

Ha, this is so ludicrous. When have we ever seen these kids eat a hot lunch? Today of all days, Kate sets the twins up for failure by having them prepare a hot meal. WHY? So they had pizza chicken sandwiches, potato chips, then popcorn? This coming from a woman who tries to tout herself as an authority on healthy eating? Sorry, that lunch was crap with very little nutritional value. She's a fraud.

Janine in Washington said...

My Observations:

1. From the very beginning, like at breakfast, you could tell the twins did not want to do this. I think they even said it. I think they were forced for the cameras and to "make an episode". If this doesn't PROVE the children are WORKING I don't know what will.

2. Why in the heck do the twins NEED to know how hard their mom and dad work to take care of them? If Kate can't even take care of her 6 'tups, why would she expect Mady and Cara to?

3. If Kate wanted to make this realistic, like a real "day in the life of Mommy Gosselin", then why in the heck weren't the twins provided with a nanny like Kate is daily??

4. Jon admitted on national television that the 'tups have NO respect for their elders. Wow. Maybe thats something you should teach them then. And he made it sound like it was no big deal. Real nice parenting you have going on there.

5. Kate was supposed to be "switching out clothes ALL day" but we completely sitting in her lounge chair in the living room reading a book. When my boyfriend saw that he said, "I thought she said he was changing the clothes out?" I guess she needs a break from that too...you know, due to her absolute constant "exhaustion".

6. Kate said that Jons the "yeller". I think his silence spoke all of OUR thousands of words.

7. Jon and Kate are obviously having marital problems. She took cheap shots at him whenever she could.

8. Bibs still?? Seriously?? And Jon said they have to wear bibs "because they are kids." LOL. Okay so should be expect them to wear bibs until they are 12 then?

9. I would expect a "supermom" like Kate to step in when obviously things were getting chaotic for everyone and say, "Okay, obviously this is not fun for you girls so we are going to stop this activity of playing mommy for the day." You know, since she said SHE is the one who "listens and takes care of all the childrens needs". LOL.

10. Kate doesn't EVER make hot lunchs for the kids but she expects her 8 olds to?? Plus, she said she wanted them to feel like they were really "cooking", well I would think that making 6 PB&J sandwichs all my themselves would be sufficient enough.

11. Now that someone said it, I have also noticed that the kids have never worn the same outfit twice....to me that is just INSANE. I mean, they aren't freakin movie stars!!

12. That scene with Kate and Hannah in the closet made me throw up a little bit in my mouth. She completely blatantly favors Hannah its pathetic. Could ANYONE EVER picture that same situation and conversation with Kate and Joel??

13. I think that Kate calling Mady "ugly" on national television is very, very wrong. I mean, what is that poor girl going to think when she hears this over and over when she watches these episodes, plus she knows its all shown on national television.

Okay, sorry it was so long, but I have one more comment. I was at Costco today and I saw Kates book "Multiple Blessings", I just flipped to a random page and read part of a paragraph and it was all about Kate complaining that her house was not as clean when she got home from the hospital as it was when she left. I am going back to Costco tomorrow. Would it be illegal for me to make a small hand-written sign by the book saying "These people exploit their children for money, please keep that in mind when you purchase this book if you choose to."????

Katete said...

How immature (and stupid) can Kate actually be? "Who is the better mommy?" Hello, Kate, you are comparing yourself to two eight year olds! Eight year old kids who are emotionally stunted because of lack of attention, discipline and privacy.

Next time, Kate ask your kids, who is the better parent, mommy or daddy? And ask all your kids... I bet Kate would be shocked!!!

L.Stash said...

Everyone seems so shocked that they brushed their teeth in the kitchen.

I'm pretty sure in past episodes Kate has said that she has two sets one in the bathroom one in the kitchen.


Also I like Mady. I find her relatable. I like her alot.

alana said...

I am insulted. If this had been a television show that I watch on a regular basis, for example "Law and Order", I would wonder why the producers were hell bent on insulting me. This episode took advantage of my time, my need for an entertainment break, and could have been a rip off to my intelligence since I felt really dumb for watching something that didn't make sense.
The way all of the children cried and screamed - am I supposed to think this is "normal"?
I would rename this show "TLC's Poor Excuse For Displaying Loud and Rotten Behavior."

Kate Makes Me Puke said...

Obviously the editors of this show are sick and tired of Jon and Kate already that is why they are letting everyone see how screwed up this family is! Or do they just want to irate people so that everyone will tune in?

I went to the bookstore and saw two copies of Multiple Blessings. I hid them behind two other books!

highondegrassi said...

Janine....write it on a post it note and stick it on the cover of the book....no damage done LOL

"I was at Costco today and I saw Kates book "Multiple Blessings", I just flipped to a random page and read part of a paragraph and it was all about Kate complaining that her house was not as clean when she got home from the hospital as it was when she left. I am going back to Costco tomorrow. Would it be illegal for me to make a small hand-written sign by the book saying "These people exploit their children for money, please keep that in mind when you purchase this book if you choose to."????'

Shell76 said...

My husband and I had a late dinner tonight and there was nothing on to watch....it was either J&K or a PBS special. My curiosity got the best of me and I put on J&K around 9:05....the first thing I heard was an ear piercing scream. We saw about 3 min. of the twins crying and yelling at the tups and Jon before the commercial break. All I could say to my husband before switching it off for good, "Well, at least the kids aren't swearing yet", to which he said, "Yeah, that will be another episode..."The Kids' First Curse Word"'.

I'm proud for not watching this rubbish anymore, with the exception of a quick glimpse...similar to when you drive past a car accident. I feel too embarrassed for these people, especially the poor kids. I haven't felt this scummy watching a TV show since following American Juniors (American Idol w/kids) about 5 years ago. Kids were exploited and toyed with emotionally in both cases. I'll continue reading all the great blogs/comments here, but I really have no more words for this abomination.

alana said...

P.S. And Jon and Kate had NO RIGHT as parents to use Cara and Mady in this way no matter how badly the girls wanted to play "Mommy". Loving parents do what's best for their children; they don't let them make crying fools of themselves on a t.v. show that will live on forever in infamy.

Tess said...

I just had to add that I really feel for the extended family and any former friends. If they watch the show (especially this one), they have got to be hurting for those kids. If I was a family member or former friend, I think I would have to approach the parents in some way and plead with them to stop the insanity. And I think the family with the help of a professional needs to stage an intervention. Kids have a rough time growing up without having so many moments broadcast for anyone to view. Heck, we always turn our camera off if the special moment or event gets out of hand and our taping is not broadcast.

Strife said...

Barbara said . . . "Sorry to state the obvious: Mady is a brat. Why is it so many think she is this misunderstood, poor little kid. If you were watching tonight, you saw her in all her glory. Throwing plates and when she was called on it, "it wasn't on purpose" was her response. Typical. All the screaming. Yikes!"

I usually don't like children... But I have a soft spot for bratty kids who so obviously are troubled because of their parents' dysfunctions. When I catch pieces of this show I want to adopt Maddy and take her far away from the cameras...

Janine in Washington said...

highondegrassi.......

Thank you for the tip! I am seriously going to do it!! I hope it ends up on the news or something...and then it catchs national news and then Dateline or 20/20 catchs on and they REALLY get exposed....from a simple post-it note!

No Joke you guys, I am going to put post-it notes on the books, I dont think its illegal since Im not damaging the book or anything (Kate has done enough damage herself, I dont think a little post-it note would hurt more than her own words), so Im going to do it!!

I just hope that it doesn't backfire on me and makes people want to buy the book more out of curiousity!

I just really want to get the word out about Jon and Kate because I truely think the only reason alot of people support them is because they do not KNOW the truth. I mean, its not like they brodcast it on their show, you pretty much have to google them to find out any negative truth about them

They are running a really good scam on alot of innocent people (especially the "love offerings") and I just want to do my part to get the truth out so that people can make a truly INFORMED decision on whether or not to support them by buying their book, etc...

What do you all think about the post-it note idea because I really am going to do it tomorrow!!

Mods, should I mention the website so that the people can come here (if they choose) to read the truth about these scam artists??

notafan said...

The only reason for filming/airing this episode was to make Kate look good. "Do you see what she has to deal with? Screaming kids? Chaos? Even 2 little girls can't do what she does."

Well give yourself a huge pat on the back Kate (and add one from Hannie). Pathetic.

Ilovemykids said...

Maybe Kate was not switching out "old" clothes, but putting away new freebie clothes she got picked up at Gymboree?

MsPeabody said...

chicago teacher said...
Question for the parents out there - how much of a young child's wardrobe needs to be swapped out season to season? Wouldn't the kids grow out of most of their clothing from the previous year? We know they don't do hand-me-downs so what gives?


Kate had to be on the show and appear to be working hard at something for her family so the Producers came up with her in the closets exchanging summer clothes for winter. And takes all day to do this? Right! HOGWASH!!!

MsPeabody said...

SmartyQ said:
Hannah will be the one who changes QFI's Depends, who must wipe away the drool, and who will have to listen to QFI saying 'Um, um, um' while contorting her now bony, arthritic hands in those strange spider-like positions she executes.

LOL..I'm glad I am not the only one who's noticed those wierd ways she positions her hands..I got a laugh out of your entire comment. I've wondered why TLC shows kate in such a bad way but then maybe these are the best shots they have of her, hard to fathom her being worse.

pinkdiamond611 said...

The twins didn't even know how to turn on the oven? I thought they loved cooking and helping their Mom. I agree that the twins were totally set up, that project Brown Bear is for kids who are emergent readers, I would love to find where to buy it for my Kinder class. But you need to know th book, and then you act it out. It is a pattern book. The tups didn't seem to know the story. And how much work is it to switch over clothes? Only lots of work if you have tons of free clothes in the garage you need to get into the drawers. Usually kids that age have out grown their clothes from last year so you have to piece meal them a few outfits everytime there is a sale or Grandma wants to buy them something.

nancy019 said...

while contorting her now bony, arthritic hands in those strange spider-like positions she executes

Oh my God, I thought I was the only one who noticed that!

Molly said...

I went to the bookstore and saw two copies of Multiple Blessings. I hid them behind two other books!


I've done this too! LOL!

Casey and Smudge Bunny said...

Wow, this episode was wrong on so many fronts, I couldn't stop watching these two nuts dig themselves further into a hole! At their children's expense of course, shame on me and double shame on them. No table manners, no kind words, no discipline, no sense. I haven't watched the show in awhile, but this one made me curious. Just how can two eight-year-olds "parent" their siblings for a day without role models or encouragement?

It's obvious that Mady and Cara were put up to the task and would rather have spent their Saturday looking at books or watching tv. Jon and Kate had the wrong attitude from the start or they'd have set some expectations for the younger kids and given Mady and Cara some guidelines. Kate is living on coffee - next she'll become a spokesperson for eating disorders (she's already setting her children up for future food issues).

Dental hygeine should take place in the bathroom by age 4, using toothpaste and rinse. And yes, they were only wearing pyjamas, free them from the bibs already! Kate can have her chef-inspired goodies put into pyrex, but we still know that someone else is making it! Otherwise, they'd have shown Kate doing a day of cooking to prep for the week like many working moms do. All the organic nonsense, to then eat off paper plates? Don't tell me how to budget either! I wouldn't be buying that tiny bag of cereal o's, I'd have the extra-super-jumbo store brand of Cheerio-like cereal to feed 8 kids. I thought for sure that Kate would have shared her sandwich wisdom with Mady and Cara so they could make a lunch on their own. It looked kind of yucky - wouldn't the tomato sauce soak into the bread making it mushy?

Poor Collin gets hit with the ball and hikes it into the house (don't expect any love in there either Colly!) while Leah gets apologies and hugs for the same type of incident. Cara cries and gets in some hurtful digs while Mady yells and throws things. Hannah acts like a brat on several occasions. Kate feels vinidicated in bringing down her own children. Jon cannot extract his head from his butt. Hmm, nothing new here. Anybody running around in their underwear? Nope, but I cringed when they filmed Mady in the basement, yikes. And poor Joel, he's the last one done and doesn't want to kick the dirty soccer ball. Can't forget to insult him every episode.

And the camera is having no effect on this family? This is their life? It sure didn't sit right with me. Shame on P&G for lauding Kate - anybody know a good laundry detergent for sensitive skin to replace my Tide?

Miss B said...

M said...
It also kinda makes me wonder what it would have been like to be in charge of my little sister for a day when we were kids, although we were closer in age then the Gosselin kids are (I'm 3.5 years older).

I know this sounds picky, but.......The Twins are 3.5 years older than the tups. The twins' birthday is October 8th. 2000 and the tups' were born May 10th. 2004. The twins were not 4 until October of that year (5 months later), so a 3.5 age difference works.

4tolove said...

An effective way to see how you behave in certain situations is to see how your children act when they are in a similar situation. It is always telling, and a good way to access your behavior and possibly modify it. Of course, you have to be willing to see your faults. Kon are, unfortunately not willing to do that.

It seems to me as if the production company is ready for this to all end. This episode was horrible! It showed the whole entire family at their worst--Kon and the kids. Both Jon and Kate were "mean and ugly" (Jon telling the girls he didn't want to help with breakfast--It was supposed be their job; Kate just being Kate). The kids, unfortunately, are just responding to their environment.

This experience should have been fun for the whole family and should have been under constant supervision by the parents. The girls should have been encouraged and guided (even if it was hands-off guidance) through their "Mommy Day", and the tups should have been encouraged to be willing participants. Instead the twins were treated badly by the tups, criticized by their parents, and set up to fail. Poor Mady and Cara:(

Dee said...

...I would love for this family to go on Dr. Phil. I don't think it would be pretty."
"They were already on. Dr. Phil gave them free nanny service for a year."

He also gave them a crap load of toys for the kids so every kid could have their "own" toys to play with...of course Kate was balling like a little baby....acting of course.
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He also offered J&K professional help to assist them in better parenting and in setting up consistent rules of behavior for the kids. Seems like Dr. Phil either didn't come through with that, or J&K feel they were such awesome parents they didn't need to take advantage of that.

BuckeyeMomof5 said...

I think what bothered me the most were the comments Kate was making to Jon like "think like a 31 year old, not a little boy" or when Kate mentions the oven isn't on yet and Mady says Daddy didn't turn it on and Kate says, "well of course he didn't." I mean, he's only the one who's been chasing the kids around all day and taking care of them-not Kate.

Why does he allow her to say things like that to him? It's soooo disrespectful and mean. I would never speak to my husband that way.

Karen said...

You know, I have an eight year old. And i have a four year old and a two year old. If my eight year old wants to "play daddy" (he would never say that, but he sometimes expresses that he would like to help out his brothers) I let him do it...but I would never expect him to take care of the little kids ALL DAY LONG. That's just stupid.

It's one thing for an older sibling to help out by doing things for and with their younger siblings. It is quite another to say, "Hey! You get to be Mommy ALL DAY for six young children! Won't that be fun!"

Ugh.

Sara said...

My observations on this screaming catastrophe:

(1) They must have lost their sponsorship with Juicy Juice. I've noticed for awhile that we haven't seen those lingering shots on the bottles, but last night they showed Juicy Juice fruit punch, and the bottle was blurred. That means they don't have the authorization to display the product.

(2) The reason why Kate was switching the wardrobes over (despite the fact that you can't normally reuse clothes from last season because of growth) was because she was replacing the free SUMMER clothes with the NEW free WINTER clothes. Out with the old and in with the new.

(3) Even though they have replaced the sippy cups with lidded cups, they have actually taken a step backward in childhood development. Any pediatrician will tell you that children should be introduced to a plain 'ol cup when they are about one year old. Encouraging the use of straws in place of learning such a basic self-feeding skill is just plain lazy and teaches the kids to be lazy.

(4) The shot of Hannah telling Kate that she's the best mommy and loving all over her was intentionally cut into this trainwreck to boost up Kate's image. In light of the public's realization that she is in fact, NOT a superhero, TLC and Figure 8 Films are scrambling to keep this gravy train on its tracks.

(5) Kate once again took the opportunity to play the blame game with Jon over whose fault it was that the kids act the way they do. In her eyes, when the kids behave, it is because SHE has taught them to be patient and well-mannered, and when they act terribly, it's because JON has reinforced selfish behavior and inconsideration. Neither one of them can admit that kids are observant of their parents' behavior towards each other and reproduce it in their everyday actions. IMO: Because of Kate, Hannah is snotty and overly proud, Mady is downright mean, Alexis is a screamer and Joel, Aiden and Cara are indifferent.

(6) It was painfully obvious that the Gosselins' refrigerator is full of meals prepared by a personal chef. That chicken/mushroom/whatever was put together by a cook as part of a "week of meals" or some such matter. It would be nice to say that Kate prepares dinners with ingredients selected for quality, health and enjoyment, and then she pinches pennies by making in bulk and fridging/freezing them for future meals, but we know THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. Sorry supermom, you've been found out.

Anyway, I know this was long, but so was this sorry excuse for a family's "life".

KONspiracytheory said...

So many, many issues...

1. This whole story line was so obviously concocted - did Kate keep saying that the twins wanted to play mommy to convince herself?

2. Jon once again played the role of man-boy. He spent the whole time whining at the twins for not doing their 'job' - obviously b/c he has no control over what they do. Grow a set and be a parent for once.

3. Hannah in the closet with Kate - as a previous poster said, just try to picture one of the boys in there with her. Of course that would never happen - the 'icky boy' would have been chased out.

4. I know it has been said over and over, but it bears repeating - they show it in different ways, but both twins are in obvious distress. I can't stand bratty behavior in kids and I'm not excusing it, but this episode just made me so sad for them.

5. KON (once again) referring to Mady's behavior as ugly. Nice.

6. How crazy that Kate is sitting flipping through a book while all hell breaks out in the kitchen (I guess the twins needed to learn a lesson about how hard it is to be a mommy, so she stayed out of it). Then Kate is obviously annoyed when the tups bust up her relaxation time by wanting to show her their projects. How dare they.

7. I loved Kate's raction when she misunderstood Mady and thought Mady asked her if she had prepared the lunch that was coming out of the tupperware. Kate gave a very muffled "mmmmhmmm", as in, "maybe if I'm very still and quiet something else will happen to distract from this damning question" (as, in all probability, she did *not* prepare the food).

8. Gotta end on a positive note (for my own sanity) - there was a childrens' book in the house!!!! After all these years (seasons) - I never thoguht I'd see the day! Granted, Cara was merely flipping through it b/c there were two men and equipment hovering over her, but still!!!

9. Wait - too much negative to end on a positve note (sorry) - that camera shot of Maddy in the basement was disgusting. And on a less important note, for kids who rarely watch tv (despite the fact that the tups are put into naps w/ the tv on), that is one big-ass TV in the basement!

Phew - I could go on, but I won't for my own sanity.

June C said...

This episode, to me, confirms my suspicions that Figure 8 may be trying to have this show canceled. It can't be very pleasant being around this group for any length of time. I imagine Figure 8 wants to go on to new and more productive projects. Maybe they even feel quilty about what they have contributed to.
Figure 8 probably have signed on for a set amount of time and because of the popularity of the show are stuck.
Kate was probably always a pain in the you know where, but now that she's "famous" she's probably insufferable. Jon used to seem like a decent guy, but now he's a diva. With Jon admitting the kids have no respect for adults (which is the parents fault) those kids are probably very unmanageable and bratty. (again, not the fault of the kids, but their upbringing)
The bottom line is always money. As long as the show is bringing in money the network won't cancel it themselves.

Rebecca said...

beachluvin said:
This is sort of mean but how about a Christian Celebrity Boxing match with that crazy woman from Trading Spouses with the gap in her teeth, you know "The God Warrior" against Queen Katie Irene!!!!
They could pass the hat at the end of the match for "love offerings".

12/08/2008 7:36 PM

LOl....I am so with you on this one. That is something I would even pay to see!

shel said...

Balletbrat. I thought the very same thing Jon Skipping over to his child he just kicked a soccer ball at, that was just too weird for words, I would say most of us would run.

BanTheWordBrat said...

Can we please stop calling Mady and the other kids names? We criticize Kon in one breath for being horrible parents but it's okay to pick on children? Yes, their behavior is sometimes out of line. They are modelling on their parents. It's a miracle they aren't worse.

Jon, with a different wife, might have been a decent parent. Kate should have never procreated. Last night's show made me cry. Shame on you TLC.

Two Under Two said...

I missed it, but I've read a lot of comments about how loud/obnoxious/nasty the behaviour was. Was this episode so bad that TLC might not re-air it a la the Sextuplets 4th birthday episode (cupcake-gate)?

ChristyinTn said...

I posted this earlier, but for some reason it came up as anonymous. Sorry.. : )

It appears Juicy Juice has pulled their sponsorship!

In earlier episodes, the Juicy Juice label was CLEARLY shown....when Kate poured juice in their cups, and other times it would just zoom in on it sitting on the counter for no apparent reason.

Last night's episode was deliberately BLURRED! Why now all of a sudden? Hmmmmm...

Thanks Juicy Juice...my children will continue to get their vitamin C from you!

Virginia said...

The older of my five children, a son and a daughter, sat down to watch the show tonight with me. The first we have seen in I don't know how long, but I was hoping that we wouldn't see Kon, but just the kids having fun with each other. What a tragic disappointment that was.

Very soon into the show my kids were saying things like "Why are they screaming?", "Why is this family always so mad at the daddy?". And then, out of the mouths of babes, right, my daughter looks at me and asks me if these kids ride the "special bus". Now I know what she meant by that, do you? She doesn't often see kids behave that badly EVER and says that sometimes someone on that bus loses control or in her words "gets really mad about something and yells and yells".

So we turned the show off and sat down with a board game. I didn't try to make them look stupid because as an adult (KATE) I know I could win every game - big deal. The idea is not to make yourself look better by making your kids look worse. Very small, Kate, very, very small person you are.

And Jon, for God's sake, God gave us free will and I suggest you start acting like a full partner or your kids and your wife are going to beat you down to nothing. Why do you let your children talk to you in the way they do and why do you never, ever hold your own with your wife? It is outrageous, it is bad for the children that you are the whipping boy (for now) for your obnoxious wife. I suspect she will whip the boys, figuratively speaking, in the same way unless someone intervenes. And now we see you, too, Jon, acting as if the boys are less than the girls. Sad, sad, sad.

4girlsoneboy said...

"Horizon (organic) makes all kinds of cheese slices, found at Whole Foods. One of my (many many) beefs with Kate and hypocrisy at its finest.) She proclaims to clip coupons but anyone who shops Whole Foods knows that there is nothing carried in their stores that is in the 'weekly flyers' or coupon sections in the Sunday papers. Whole Foods doesn't give out coupons. She doesn't shop the regular stores, she shops Whole Foods. P&G would love to know about this, I'm sure!"


Unless you can shop online at Whole Foods I doubt very much that Kate shops there. They don't have a store anywhere near us except for one closer to Philadelphia and we all know Kate doesn't drive hither and yon. The Giant store, however, where she shopped at the beginning of the "seasons" does have a huge organic food section so maybe that is where their shopping is done. I doubt very much that Kate does her own shopping anymore. After all, people might look at her and even say hello. I once saw Beth and her daughter at Giant but just left them alone.

ruthy said...

How exhausting can Jon and Kate really be on any regular day. Put cereal in eight bowls, eat, put eight bowls in the dishwasher, send eight kids down stairs to play until lunch, walk around and drink lots of coffee, whip up some crackers and cheese or bread and chips for lunch, throw paper plates away, walk around and drink lots of coffee, send the kids outside to play, have kids nap, walk around and drink lots of coffee, whip up some dinner.....

It's easy stuff if you ask me. No more diapers, laundry, housekeeping. Quit your complaining!

Also Kate, when refering to Jon ask the screamer....did you make a fresh fruit flag cake "with" your kids and who was screaming then!

qtrfan said...

pickle said...
Disturbing seems to be a good word to describe this episode.

I agree 100%. I felt so BAD for Mady and Cara - if this is any indication what their off-camera lives are, it appears they are totally miserable. Their behavior is a reflection of the parenting they have experienced.

There was no focus on this episode other than showcasing how bratty the kids can be, how whipped Jon really is, and how medicated and out of touch Kate appears to be.

I did however, love the comment by Kate that Jon is the "yeller". Huh?

I find it difficult to understand how J&K are not mortified that their show has been reduced to this trainwreck. But TLC has to be ecstatic - obviously the worse the show gets, the more people watch.

SAHM said...

Going on 3 weeks now of NOT watching and from what i have just read, i didn't miss much!!!!

MidnightSun said...

I didn't watch the episode, but I noticed several people mention the tups getting their teeth brushed for them...

I always brushed my kids teeth until I felt that they were able to do it thoroughly and properly on their own. I did it myself up until they were about 3, and then at that point they get to do it on their own first, and then I do it myself again after.

I can't afford to get cavities filled left and right.

MidnightSun said...

I also want to comment on some of the comments posted about Mady being a brat.

I don't think she ever started out that way, and I know her behavior is a result of the life J&K has forced upon their kids.

Mady (and the others) do NOT get the attention and care children need. Period. J&K are so busy with "work" and filming, and these poor kids do not get to live a normal life.

They desperately need one-on-one time with their parents, and they desperately need to get away from this show and their whirlwind lifestyle.

Mady may act bratty, but I don't blame her one bit for her behavior. J&K are to blame for the lack of discipline that these children have.

Mady is 8 years old, and doesn't act like it because of the environment she has been brought up in.

TPoV said...

I fell bad for Mady and Cara. It is impossible for two 7 year olds to take on all of the responsibility of Kate. Most of the time, she was just sitting on the couch not "switching wardrobe". Mady and Cara had every right to become frustrated, as they were stressed.
I was very suprised when Jon "accidently" kicked Leah with a soccer ball. If any of the other kids would have done this, even if it waa an accident, they would have been sent to the corner. Mady and Cara had every right to only be mommy for half of the day. It was hard work, and Kate is just trying to train them to help out so she can sit on her but all day

Tami said...

I always brushed my kids teeth until I felt that they were able to do it thoroughly and properly on their own. I did it myself up until they were about 3, and then at that point they get to do it on their own first, and then I do it myself again after.

I can't afford to get cavities filled left and right.
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With our insurance we go to the dentist every 6 months, my 3.5 year old included. I brush my teeth with her. She imitates me and if she ends it too soon or is missing spots, I tell her. For all the people who bash because they still use bibs, sippies, etc, it's odd so many are saying they brush their kids teeth for them rather than teach. To each their own. If I had 6 four year olds they'd be brushing their own by now. Her checkups have been great, no problems, same with all my other kids. Tooth brushing is something kids can learn.

Jo said...

THose scissors they were using were not kid scissors but sharp, pointy ones! They have barely been able to do crafts in their life and they are given dangerous scissors. Niiiice.

Momto2in PA said...

I find it ironic that J&K had an episode about how the twins were doing so great in cooking classes, yet they had absolutely no clue how to turn on the oven.

patty said...

First time poster here! Like many of you, I used to love watching this show, but now it is downright painful!

I haven't seen anyone post yet on Kate's comment that spending a day switching out clothes is, "every mother's dread" or something to that effect.

No Kate, mothers dread their children getting cancer or other serious illnesses, we don't dread organizing closets with mountains upon mountains of clothing.

Ursula said...

During the show there were promos for 2 other shows: "Paralyzed and Pregnant" (showcasing the pregnancy of a neck-down-quadraplegic)and "Mermaid Girl" (showcasing a deformed child with one lower extremity instead of 2 legs). TLC should change its name to FSC (Freak Show Channel) because that's what they are becoming. Titling the second show "Mermaid Girl" reeks of carnival names like "Elephant Man". Degrading and disgusting. So is it any wonder that Jon and Kate is what it is? I'd be willing to bet that they edit these shows to make the kids seem worse behaved, and the family even more dysfunctional than they really are, just to get ratings. I'm almost certain they coach Jon and Kate to act and say things a certain way purposely to fire up internet chatter. And of course for the sake of money, these two freeloaders are not hard to convince. I think they'd dive into dog poo for a buck.

Oh, and as for the episode itself, it has to be the boringest one ever. I bet there was no Twins Play Mommy Day at all, just a few quick takes, and then off to the editing room...instant episode. Made me long for some fancy resort to give them a free trip. At least those have the family doing something other than just sitting around the kitchen table screaming.

Christine said...

4girlsoneboy said...
"Horizon (organic) makes all kinds of cheese slices, found at Whole Foods. One of my (many many) beefs with Kate and hypocrisy at its finest.) She proclaims to clip coupons but anyone who shops Whole Foods knows that there is nothing carried in their stores that is in the 'weekly flyers' or coupon sections in the Sunday papers. Whole Foods doesn't give out coupons. She doesn't shop the regular stores, she shops Whole Foods. P&G would love to know about this, I'm sure!"


Unless you can shop online at Whole Foods I doubt very much that Kate shops there. They don't have a store anywhere near us except for one closer to Philadelphia and we all know Kate doesn't drive hither and yon. The Giant store, however, where she shopped at the beginning of the "seasons" does have a huge organic food section so maybe that is where their shopping is done. I doubt very much that Kate does her own shopping anymore. After all, people might look at her and even say hello. I once saw Beth and her daughter at Giant but just left them alone.

12/09/2008 7:10 AM


There is one about 30 minutes from their new home. She does shop at Whole Foods. I've seen the cereal boxes and oatmeal and milk on her counter that only Whole Foods carries (their name brand.)

I know Horizon is now carried in some supermarkets as well as Whole Foods, but the products that only WF carries I've seen numerous times in the show. The box of cereal she took out of the cupboard in last night's show (where she poured herself a bowl) is cereal only found at Whole Foods. I shop there every week and sadly recognize all the products. It isn't product placement because you can't make out the name of the products but if you know the store, you'd recognize alot of their products in the show. Also in an older episode that Sara Snow was in, you can see the Oatmeal cannister with the 365 (their brand) Label on it, but blurred. I recognized it and the writing on it. Oh and Whole Foods doesn't do home delivery, so someone is shopping there!

OnThe Fence said...

Kate should have planned a lunch that did not require the use of the oven. If she wanted to teach them how to make cheese steaks, this could have been a separate day.

Also, it's pathetic that she has ask Hannah who the "better" mommy is.

Sadly, Hannah used to be my favorite tup. Nowadays I can't stand watching her and Mady.

Kelly said...

WOW! This episode was painful to watch. The part that stood out to me was watching the tups sit at the table and enjoy their craft peppered by the cute conversation between Aaden & Collin.
All else would be grounds for ending this utter chaos. I see alot of resentment that Mady carries around for the whole family. And Cara looks so sad, never standing up to Mady, with parents that don't correct the behavior. TOO SAD!!

Charlie Rose said...

"to continue watching it is just wrong on so many levels. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem....turn the channel and put an end to giving those 2 ungrateful, selfish, supposed adults the means to sit on their behinds and live off their kids."

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I stopped watching a long time ago. Couldn't take the entitlement issues or how the children are always expected to act perfect in their perfect little world. Kate and Jon have no clue anymore what LIFE is all about and unfortunately, she has passed this trait on to her kids. SUPERMOM, I think not!

Maria for PA said...

If you go back to past episodes Kate says she is a lot like Mady and Cara is a lot like Jon. Now she wants to claim that she is a lot like Cara because Cara is more likeable and wants Jon to agree. Jon and Kate REALLY need to edit their show better.... Just goes to show how ignorant these two liars are.

SmartyQ said...

GrammyPie said... Did anyone else hear Cara say she wished it was just a Cara, Hannah, and Mommy day? Hmmmmm guess she knows who the favorite child is, and wants to be included in their little twosome.

I agree, and I find it sad that the only way to get QFI's love and attention is by kowtowing to Hannah. It's also a change from the visit to the Crayola factory when Cara said that she wished it was just her, Daddy and Mady. That statement effectively the visit to the factory IIRC.

If TLC insisted (or forced) Mady and Cara to play Mommy, why weren't they given the same perks as Mommy? It was a filming day, so craft services would have been fixing lunch, and Jenny should have been on hand to help. QFI gets an Uzi to deal with being a mother; Cara and Mady got single-shit derringers.

Ohio_teacher_mommy said...

"Jolegate" episode is on TLC right now. I haven't seen the full episode yet....

Hated last night's episode....maybe it takes Kate all day to change out their clothes because she spent quite a bit of that time sitting in the recliner or on the floor.

pickle said...

Did anyone else notice how Kate had her big Starbucks (I'm assuming it was Starbucks, but the image was blurred out) coffee? I guess she feels like they can splurge on gourmet coffee now and Jon doesn't have to make it for her anymore. LOL. I'm sure he has to run out and fetch it for her though! I would imagine part of the plan is to try and get Starbucks to be a sponsor and then it would be yet another freebie.

What the..? said...

I love this show...never missed an episode. But last nights episode was very disturbing...they need to go back to Dr. Phil.

beachchick said...

I was watching the show for about 2 min. after the intro there was all this yelling.
I couldn't take it. I was really disappointed because it's like all the adults in the room (Jon & Kate camera men ect..) are watching the kids like(us) the viewers for entertainment.Hello! who is raising these kids?

beachluvin said...

MsPeabody said...
SmartyQ said:

LOL..I'm glad I am not the only one who's noticed those wierd ways she positions her hands..I got a laugh out of your entire comment. I've wondered why TLC shows kate in such a bad way but then maybe these are the best shots they have of her, hard to fathom her being worse.
12/09/2008 4:17 AM
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I have noticed the way she did this with her hands from the first special. The palms are faced up as if it is a subliminal message for "give me, give me" or "handout".

SchaedenKON said...

chicago teacher said...
Question for the parents out there - how much of a young child's wardrobe needs to be swapped out season to season? Wouldn't the kids grow out of most of their clothing from the previous year? We know they don't do hand-me-downs so what gives?

Consider: Kate is saving the children's summer wardrobe for her anticipated winter travel to warmer climates? It looks exhausting to have to shovel snow from that new driveway and she will require a tropical getaway as a rare treat for her upcoming season.

4girlsoneboy said...

I finally watched twins, twins, and sextuplets. What a nice family with parents who obviously love one another and their kids. I know how most of you feel about Mady bashing but I don't feel sorry for her. She reminds me of that movie The Bad Seed. I think she is downright mean and nasty. In the new show about the family with multiples I was so impressed when the mother told about the older boy wanting his chore to be taking care of his handicapped sister. This is just one of the many things that seem to emphasize how strange the Gosselin family behaves. Although I stopped watching sometime ago I cannot ever remember one scene that touched my heart.

Snarkygirl said...

BuckeyeMomof5 said...
I think what bothered me the most were the comments Kate was making to Jon like "think like a 31 year old, not a little boy" or when Kate mentions the oven isn't on yet and Mady says Daddy didn't turn it on and Kate says, "well of course he didn't." I mean, he's only the one who's been chasing the kids around all day and taking care of them-not Kate.

Why does he allow her to say things like that to him? It's soooo disrespectful and mean. I would never speak to my husband that way.

12/09/2008 5:39 AM

Not to defend Kate, but Jon is a loser (reminds me of my ex -- eeesh). Why didn't he turn on the stove? The girls did ask him to do it. That marriage is on the rocks...take it from someone who has been there.

Get a Clue said...

Kate should have planned a lunch that did not require the use of the oven.

I agree with you and I think it was a combination of Kate setting up the twins for failure (even Kate was struggling to cut that mess) and it was what the chef had left for lunch and Kate was too lazy to get, set up, or think of something else.

momof5 said...

Kate was not switching clothes for the seasons. She was packing for their move. Think about it, she mentioned it was October and they moved at the end of October.
They probably hired movers and Kate was just getting organized for them to come.
There were already boxes packed in the garage and plastic bins full of clothes.
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QFI doing her own packing?! That is sssoooo beneath her. Only poor people do their own packing.

Katete said...

I think the reason why Kate keeps demeaning and belittling Jon is that she knows between the two of them, people think Jon is the better person (not really a great parent, but definitely better than Kate, and when Kate is not around, acts more maturely) and Kate tries to pull him down anyway she can.

Jon: Keep quiet Hannah
Kate: You keep quiet Jon

Thanks Kate for undermining Jon's authority to your kids.

MIchelle S said...

I just want to say that i have 4 kids, and not every child will outgrow all clothes from last year. I sat and wondered if Kate sorted through them as i would, picking out items that still fit or didnt. There is always a few things i know for sure is too small while there are items that still fit..

violet said...

Jon needs a job. Kate and the kids would appreciate him more. Kate and Jon spend a lot of time together and they are trying to get their kids to make a show, "forcing something out of nothing". Kate used to wait for Jon to get home (to be relieved), and the kids would yell excitedly, "Daddy is home!" There is so much drama and tension in that house. There is something to be said about being a productive, and contributing member of society! Remember those days Jon and Kate?

Snarkygirl said...

Ursula said...
During the show there were promos for 2 other shows: "Paralyzed and Pregnant" (showcasing the pregnancy of a neck-down-quadraplegic)and "Mermaid Girl" (showcasing a deformed child with one lower extremity instead of 2 legs). TLC should change its name to FSC (Freak Show Channel) because that's what they are becoming. Titling the second show "Mermaid Girl" reeks of carnival names like "Elephant Man". Degrading and disgusting.

BRAVO! I have been thinking this for a while...I have been thinking about writing on op-ed piece related to this for the NYTimes. Wonder if they will publish it?

Sheila said...

I saw Kate sitting in her chair more than swapping out wardrobes. I heard her say it was an all day job!

miss chris said...

The lack of disrespect from all these children is horrible. The fact that the parents tolerate such back-talk towards themselves and the other children just proves there is a lack of parenting happening in that home.
And I agree with all the other posters that the scene with Mady rolling around on the floor should never have been shown.
Imagine how disrespectful these kids will be as teenagers. Now that would be a show to see!

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