Twins are Mommy for a Day Recap

The Twins are Mommy for a Day on this episode of Jon & Kate + 8. A bit of role reversal goes on in the soon-to-be former Gosselin house when Mady and Cara take on Kate’s duties for a day. Will they be able to put grapes on a plate? Will Hannah get the sort of favoritism to which she’s become accustomed? Will the Twins be able to regulate their own blood sugar levels? Stay tuned.

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fostersmom said...

The Twins are Mommy for a Day on this episode of Jon & Kate + 8. A bit of role reversal goes on in the soon-to-be former Gosselin house when Mady and Cara take on Kate’s duties for a day. Will they be able to put grapes on a plate? Will Hannah get the sort of favoritism to which she’s become accustomed? Will the Twins be able to regulate their own blood sugar levels? Stay tuned.

I truly thought this would be an interesting show as we’d get to see Mady and Cara have some time to shine, but early on Kate tells us that she wants Mady and Cara to have her responsibilities for a day so they would know how hard SHE works. Nothing like exacting a bit of revenge on your 8-year-olds. Here, I thought it was because this was something the twins wanted to do, something that Kate hoped would be fun for them, not some method by which their mother could gain their sympathy.

To be honest, there was so much crazy happening during the first few minutes of the show that I don’t know what was going on. For a household that is so allegedly organized, there was so much mayhem that I got a little overwhelmed. Milk must have been on sale as cereal was on the breakfast menu and Jon wasn’t fully on board with the Twins-as-Mommy concept as he openly states that he doesn’t want to do this. He knows it will just mean extra work for him as Kate will do even less than she normally does.

Mady seemed to start the day with a fair amount of enthusiasm as she tries to get the tups gathered around the table. There’s a quick tug-of-war with Hannah over some toy that Mady wins which puts Hannah into a pointless crying jag. While Mady’s shrill little voice is annoying, she is trying very hard to get the kids into their seats and wrangled by their bibs so that the cereal can be served. Cara pitches in and we learn how hard it is to get bibs on little kids with long hair. I suppose all the babies in my life were out of their bibs before their hair got that long.

What on earth is Kate doing during her Mommy down time? She is changing the children’s wardrobe from summer to winter which she tells us is an all-day effort. In fact, we hear about how she’s changing the wardrobes and it’s an all-day thing about a hundred times during the course of this episode. Actually, every time Kate opens her mouth she is alternately telling us that the twins need to know how hard she works and that changing from summer to winter clothing is an all-day project. Enough, we get it.

Back at the breakfast table, we see a quick shot of the counter where there sits a bottle of juice that has the label blurred out. Either they are drinking a competitor’s juice or Juicy Juice has cut them off. It is notable, however, that the tups have upgraded from sippy cups to lidded cups with straws which is guaranteed to work a whole other group of sucking muscles.

Through lots of whining, crying, and bickering from all parties concerned -- Jon included -- breakfast is finally finished and now, after teeth are brushed, the tups get to do a twins-supervised project. Something about a paper bag and a bear. Sounds like fun. The tups get the chance to display their motor skills while they color, cut, and glue bear parts onto their paper bags. Kate wanders into the kitchen which induces Mady (who is still trying very hard) to instruct the tups to pretend that Mommy isn’t there. Kate then has to make a very disparaging remark about how mean and ugly her daughter can be. In this moment, there is no one in all of television history -- not J.R., not Omarosa, not The Joker, not a single Klingon -- who is meaner or uglier than Kate Gosselin.

By this time, Kate is in the recliner (which gives us an idea why the clothing exchange takes her all day) and the tups want to show her their art work. Mady is upset because not all of the projects are finished and she has lost control of the order in which the tups display their wares and starts yelling. Kate, in a manner that managed to sound both medicated and condescending, tells Mady that mommies don’t act like that. Evidently, Kate needs a private viewing of seasons 1 and 2 on DVD or, more effectively, she needs to be beaten with a you-act-like-that stick.

Kate asks Mady if she is exhausted in an effort to justify her own chronic exhaustion, then declares that that’s what nap time is for in case there was ever any doubt that the reason those children spend so much time napping is so that Kate has her share of free time.

Finally, Jon takes the kids outside and Mady retreats to the basement. While Jon complains that Mady isn’t outside helping, I don’t blame her for wanting to escape from the whole lot of them. Jon comments that the little kids don’t respect their elders, especially when the elders are only four years older than they are. I’m thinking that it may have been helpful if the tups had been instructed by their parents that they are to behave and listen to their sisters. But that didn’t happen -- not once.

The outdoor activities are certainly the most entertaining of the episode. Jon and Cara both play well with the kids. There are only a few minor catastrophes when a soccer ball rolled over Collin’s feet and he had to run inside; when Joel’s freezing hands kept him from kicking the ball; and when Leah was accidentally struck on the head when Jon kicked the ball in her direction.

There are a peaceful few seconds with Mady tangled in a blanket in the basement in front of the television while the cartoons they don’t watch are playing, but blurred out. That show must not be on their list of sponsors. Anyway, the producer is having a quiet conversation with Mady and it is amazing how pleasant the child can be when there isn’t a wild din around her and she’s talking softly.

Mady resurfaces for lunch and she and Cara start pulling things out of the refrigerator. Evidently, when the twins are doing the serving, grapes on a plate don’t suffice. The twins start making some sort of pizza bread (I’m sure we’ll learn the cheesy details in the Gosselin’s upcoming cookbook), and Kate decides she needs to help (which, she should). Presumably, Jon didn’t turn on the oven so it could preheat, and thus begins this weeks downward spiral. Kate begins to berate Jon regarding a list of piddly crap so long that it out numbers Kate’s un-updated website devotionals, beginning with the oven and ending with the number of chips he puts on each plate. Even the tups start counting chips.

Ok, if you two really want to enforce to your children that you will be together forever, you don’t need a Hawaiian vow renewal, you need to learn to treat each other with kindness. Every time you talk to each other in a hateful way, you leave an emotional bruise on your children. Kate talks to Jon as if she hates him. I don’t know a single person who talks to someone they truly love in that way.

We see just how passive-aggressive Cara can be when Mady tosses a paper plate into the sink after Cara slaps her. Cara then starts crying and playing the victim. Both of the twins were stressed and it becomes obvious to me that Kate gave these girls neither guidance nor encouragement during their day in the spotlight. It's clear that these girls were set up to fail. Kate didn’t want them to do well. She wanted them to know that she is superior and that they need her. Cara and Mady are two little girls who wanted to do well and needed help. Help that they should have gotten from their Mother. Parents should want to help their children to succeed.

In the most ridiculous statement ever to come out of Kate’s mouth, while on the sofa, she says that Cara is more like her and that Mady is more like Jon because JON is the screamer. It took me a few seconds to regain my hearing because lies of that sort leave scorch marks on my ear drums. Jon says nothing, wisely. That little bit of nothing spoke volumes.

In closing, we see Kate and Hannah bonding in the closet where Kate manipulates Hannah into saying that she didn’t like Cara and Mady being Mommy for a day and that Kate does the job best.

Jon pretty much seemed resentful through most of the episode and the way Kate managed to keep herself the focus of attention by constantly reinforcing her own position of authority at the expense of her twin daughters was sickening. Seriously, it was totally obvious that she was marking the children as her territory in much the same way as a cat marks the furniture.

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qtrfan said...

This recap is so dead-on. Sadly so - the recaps can be funny, but this one is just sad.

Kate just seems to sink further into her delusions with every episode, and it is so so awful to witness the deterioration of the children.

Shame on TLC for continuing to showcase this mess at the expense of these children. Unfortunately, the madness will probably continue whether the cameras are there or not.

It is hard to imagine what could fix this family since Kate "knows" she is the perfect mother. Jon is fully aware what is going on, but he is too weak to stand up to Kate.

Tsk tsk.

Gloria said...

See, I don't think the twins ever wanted to do this. I think it was just a manufactured script idea that Figure 8 cam up with and told Kon would be an episode. Once the agenda was set, Kate gleefully heaped on her masochistic martyr complex about now they will understand how hard she has it. Yes, Kate, we all get it. No on has it as tough as you do, not ever, and we so understand why you are always so exhausted. Poor Kate.

NDmom said...

Oh my goodness, Threefarmers, another brilliant recap! You have such a wonderful, witty style and talent for writing! And it was spot-on! "Will they be able to put grapes on a plate?" I laughed so hard.

I totally agree that Kate's most ridiculous statement was that Cara is more like her and Mady is more like Jon. When that came out of her mouth, I dropped my teeth out of my mouth! She really doesn't have a clue!

Thank you so very much for the fantastic entertainment, Threefarmers. I needed that after enduring last night's painful episode of J&K+8.

ThreeFarmers said...

I agree with Gloria. I don't think the twins wanted to do this. However, what could have been a nice day with the twins interacting in a positive way with the tups under the guidance of their parents, just turned into another way for Kate to try to convince the world of how necessary she is.

If pomposity were people, Kate would be China.

Ken said...

I agree with just about every concern about Jon and Kate. I also feel the show is becoming more and more contrived.

But, to Jon and Kate's credit, what continues to amaze me is how intellectually "developed" the little kids are. Their language and rudimentary math skills are really pretty impressive. The parents must be doing something right. Actually, this complement probably applies to Mady and Cara also. They seem pretty sharp. It's just not as noticeable with the older girls.

Barb said...

Loved the recap ThreeFarmers, especially

** Kate begins to berate Jon regarding a list of piddly crap so long that it out numbers Kate’s un-updated website devotionals, beginning with the oven and ending with the number of chips he puts on each plate. Even the tups start counting chips.**

the mention of Kate's devotionals on their website!

Mari said...

Oh and one more thing:

I don't think a reality show has ever broken my heart quite as this one has.

I worry about those kids. It seems to only be getting worse. :(

Gigi said...

I just have to get his off my chest. (BTW, fabulous recap, 3F, as usual. I don't even watch the shows anymore, just come here for the synopses.)

Anyway, as I was saying, when the commercials come on for other shows on TLC, it seems that most of their shows deal with people who are in some ways "off" from the norm.

To wit:
people who weigh 1,000 pounds
little people (the smallest person in the world)
big people (the tallest person in the world)
the tree man
people with missing limbs
people with horrible diseases
Duggers
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

If I were Jon and Kate, I'd be a little concerned that my family was lumped into this sideshow atmosphere so revered by this network. Think about it.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

Excellent recap! I didn't make it past the first five minutes of helter skelter! Kudo's to those that lasted through the entire episode!

AllisonSarah said...

ThreeFarmers,

This is only my 2nd time posting on GWoP ever, though I've been reading for many months, and I just wanted to tell you that reading your recaps is the highlight of my week. I admit, I do watch the episodes, but the whole time I'm thinking about what funny and sarcastic spin you're gonna put on it. It's fantastic. I literally read the recap in chunks so that I can savor it. It's that good.

Thanks and keep up the good work!
- AllisonSarah

munchiemix said...

How could anyone possibly deny the Hannah favortism? Even at her age, her sense of entitlement is obvious!!

Let's be frank: Kate would never have to say (as she does in the book I hear) that she and Hannah have a special bond if Hannah were the one pushing for the extra affection and Kate was not all about favoring her golden child.

Hannah does not need to be on Kate's lap EVERY single time we look. It is becoming absurd. The closet scene was absolutely ridiculous.

I agree also that this could have been a fun episode, but why did Jon say that the tups won't respect Mady and Cara? Perhaps they should have explained to the tups what the expectations were for the day?!? Seriously, they get thrown in the corner for everything else! They just let chaos reign!!!

ThreeFarmers said...

Well, thank you, Allison.

I hated watching this show. I hated it so much, in fact, that I almost changed my mind about doing the recap.

FXfanatic said...

3f, I've been waiting for your recap all day!

Thanks!

NancyH said...

Threefarmers...please continue with your recap's. You are gifted as a writer and it helps to bring light to what is happening to this family. Yes, the show was very sad. I feel so sorry for Mady, Cara. Not only do they use the little ones, but Kate took full advantage of Cara and Mady to make
them fail at being "Mommy for a day". When I first started watching the show I loved Kate and Jon but now I see them for what they really are. I only watch to see how the kids are doing. I hope this show ends soon for the kids sake.

FXfanatic said...

In this moment, there is no one in all of television history -- not J.R., not Omarosa, not The Joker, not a single Klingon -- who is meaner or uglier than Kate Gosselin.

Protect8 said...

Another insightful, witty episode recap full of appropriate sadness. To see Jon and Kate, both inept and immature parents, set their twin girls up for failure is truly "disturbing" as a poster on another board summed it up.

It was disturbing to see Mady and Cara belittled by Jon and Kate, especially when the two of them laughed out loud like mean middle school students about their daughters' inability to handle the job. Really, when it came to the twins and the parents in this show, they seemed on the same level. All four of them were yelling, sulking, isolating themselves, complaining - and wow - Jon went out and kicked the soccer ball directly at the kids rather than engaging them in play? How about if Jon had gotten the kids in a circle around him and then kicked the ball in a way that would have let each kid kick it back with success. It seems success is not what Jon and Kate want their children to experience.

But it was particularly sickening at the end of the show to see that Hannah has already figured out that she needs to feed Kate's narcissistic ego by telling her that she is the "best Mommy." Hannah is always hanging back, sitting on Kate's lap, taking on the job to make sure "mommy is happy." Very sad.

Parents need to set their kids up for success. What a different day it could have been had Jon and Kate advised and supported from the sidelines to ensure that the older girls both received respect from the younger children and gave respect to the younger children. Parents TEACH siblings how to get along. But had the twins succeeded in managing their younger siblings, Kate's ego and narcissism would have been threatened.

As it was, Kate proved her point. It is "exhausting" and an impossible job to manage sextuplets.

One of the best lines of this recap:

"Kate then has to make a very disparaging remark about how mean and ugly her daughter can be. In this moment, there is no one in all of television history -- not J.R., not Omarosa, not The Joker, not a single Klingon -- who is meaner or uglier than Kate Gosselin."

I hope that those of us on this board who would like to see a stop to what is happening to the Gosselin children, who would like to see the show taken off the air, will consider organizing a letter writing campaign to sponsors in an attempt to get the children protected by the same laws that protect child actors.

Thanks to those of you who have supported this idea.

Vera Blue said...

The total chaos that reigns in this household is unbelievable.

Snark said...

The recap said it all. This show has gone beyond horrid. Those two girls may have mentioned in passing (the way most kids do) that they wish they could be mommy, but I don't believe they wanted this monstrosity to occur. The producers ran with it, and Jon and Kate enabled it. Please, tell me when we've EVER seen Kate make a lunch like that for the kids? I don't ever recall seeing her make more than a few nacho chips, grapes and some other small thing. To have the girls attempt to make that lunch was just evil.

I honestly can't believe the way some their "fans" are saying they thought this episode was cute, and wonderful and how the girls need to see how hard Kate works. It's sick. How can they think it's wonderful that a mother sets her two young daughters up for failure, just to make herself feel good? Just so sad.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

What a great recap! You always hit the nail right on the head.

This episode bothered me and it was painful to watch. I was going to turn it off, but I wanted to see how it ended. Is it me, or was this one of the worst episodes yet?

Kate continues to be mean-spirited and nasty to Jon in front of the children. I thought Kate promised Jon that she would be nicer to him in her vow-renewal.

When Kate told Jon that he was more like Mady with yelling, I almost feel off the chair. I couldn't believe that she said that. That woman is in denial.

The kids counting their potato chips was sad. The reason that they were doing that is because they heard Jon and Kate fighting about it.

This show is getting worse than ever. It needs to end!

Get a Clue said...

I found a bright spot in that episode. It showed that most or all of the tups can count to nine or ten!

Cearul said...

Ken said...
But, to Jon and Kate's credit, what continues to amaze me is how intellectually "developed" the little kids are. Their language and rudimentary math skills are really pretty impressive. The parents must be doing something right. Actually, this complement probably applies to Mady and Cara also. They seem pretty sharp. It's just not as noticeable with the older girls.

12/09/2008 6:37 PM
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I don't think they are on track at all, intellectually or socially. I know they were premies, and that will affect some of their development. But these kids are 4 1/2... the bibs, highchairs, sippy or lidded cups have to go!

I was far more advanced than these kids at their age. I wasn't a genius... it was because my mom spent time with me & taught me to read, write and be creative (I was the class artist).

The complete lack of interest & enthusiasm on Kate's part has stunted these children. Their language skills are terrible... I can barely understand them half the time. The boys are the worst due to Kate's refusal to interact with them. Just compare the footage of the twins at 4 to the tups now... it's pretty obvious.

The sister-in-law of a guy my mom used to date had two sons, ages 7 & 2. Both could barely speak & the 7 year old was still barely potty-trained. This woman was alot like Kate, narcissistic, selfish, sociopathic.... the kids were the result of these kind of behaviors.

I feel very sad for these children :(

nosheeple said...

When I first saw the lunch being made it seemed familiar that a big, hot lunch would be served. Then I remembered that the few times I watched the Duggers, this is how THEY eat for lunch. They make big old casseroles every time. Then it just seemed ridiculous we are now to believe Kate wants the kids to eat that rather than the snacky things they usually consume.

Gloria said...

Kate claiming she is like Cara and Jon is like Mady flabbergasted me. She proclaims that she is the calm one who listens to the kids and Jon is the screamer? So it must be so. Unbelievable!

Great recap, 3F.

Not just a hatrack said...

Shouldn't they be able to count to nine or ten...they're almost half that age!!!

alana said...

"If pomposity were people Kate would be China."

That is the funniest remark I have heard in months!

shelbysmom said...

"But, to Jon and Kate's credit, what continues to amaze me is how intellectually "developed" the little kids are. Their language and rudimentary math skills are really pretty impressive. The parents must be doing something right. Actually, this complement probably applies to Mady and Cara also. They seem pretty sharp. It's just not as noticeable with the older girls."

Sorry Ken but all 15 of the 4 year-old children in my daughters pre-school class can count to 10 or above, use scissors, color and glue. Most all can also use complete sentences to express themselves. Listen closely and you do not hear these children speak clearly.

GrammyPie said...

The tups probably can count to nine or ten only because the twins like to play school and teach them. You can bet Kate can't be bothered. I know they were preemies, but they are smart enough to pick up on all the bad, nasty, and evil behavior that goes on in the house (I refuse to call it a home)so they should know a lot more. I wonder if they know their colors, or how to print their names. Sadly I doubt it.

Allison Parker said...

ThreeFarmers, great work!
This is the only time your recap made me sad instead of laugh. I feel so bad for the children.

laura linger said...

This was a wonderful recap of this episode. Really very well done.

I didn't laugh once.

Hambone said...

Can I be first to beat Kate with the you-act-like-this stick?

That was too funny !!!!!

ssteph said...

Protect8 said...
Another insightful, witty episode recap full of appropriate sadness. To see Jon and Kate, both inept and immature parents, set their twin girls up for failure is truly "disturbing" as a poster on another board summed it up.
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So well said and a great summation of the episode. Had either parent done a 'run through' with the twins, talked to the tups about the plan for the day and what was expected from them, and had J&K given the twins even one iota of guidance or encouragement the day might have been successful. OH, WAIT A MINUTE......maybe the day was successful per Kate's goals which looked to me to be to make the twins fail at every task given to them. What loving mother would turn their children loose with a recipe it was clear they'd never tackled before and expect them to not have issues? And then, Kate jumped in and refused to let the girls make the 'stuf' anyway. What a nutritious meal, too, by the way. They had some kind of chicken patty on french type bread with tomato/pizza sauce and slices of cheese on top which was simply put in the oven to warm up. But to balance out the meal Kate chose for them to have potato chips???? Where was a fruit or vegetable?

The episode made me feeling sad, angry, frustrated, and hurting for the misunderstandings, inattention, criticism, and ridicule the twins continually seem to endure and which I've noticed is being passed down to the tups as they're getting to the the age where ridicule and criticism hurts and leaves lasting scars. I don't believe I heard one statement of encouragement or praise directed to the twins about what they tried to do -- for crying out loud, they're 8 year old twins who were trying to direct and control six younger children! I challenge others to do better given the same circumstances.

J&K are perfect examples of people who had children before they were emotionally mature enough to handle the responsibilities and who desperately need to be attending parenting classes where they teach about emotional and educational child development and age appropriate parenting styles.

Please join me in writing letters to the network, advertisers and sponsors asking that the show be ended and to state legislators that laws be enacted to protect minors in reality tv the same way they've been protecting 'regular actors' for years.

Denise said...

I doubt the twins wanted to do this either. Mady probably screamed at Kate "I could be a better Mommy than you" and Kate couldn't stand the challenge....

kate is a cocky bitch said...

i actually felt bad for Kate on this ep. She just seemed so pitiful when she was on that chair all curled up, I saw such a different side to her. It as almost as if here was this pathetic creature who doesn't have a friend in the world and in a way, deep down she almost felt bad because of it. That's just the brief fleeting impression that I got. If Kate reads this blog I want her to know that it's never too late to change and money and status are nice, but love and good friends and family are what's most important.

Janine in Washington said...

I re-watched the part of the episode where Kate and Hannah were in the closet...and if you notice it is SO STAGED!!

First of all, we just see Kate kneeling down doing something and Hannah sitting on some box or something in front of her and Kate says, "Hey Hannie, I'm almost done and then I get to get out of the closet work!" (or something along those lines) and Hannah replies, "YAY!"....then (this is where Kate clearly says things for the camera), Kate turns around and notices that the camera is RIGHT there so she turns around around and she says to Hannah something along the lines of, "So, did you like Cara and Mady being Mommy for a day?" And of course Hannah replies with, "No." and then Kate says something like, "Who do you like better as mommy?" AND this is where she purses her lips shut like she KNOWS what Hannah is already going to say and is trying not to smile or act like she said it for the camera. Hannah says, "You are the best mommy." and Kate acts all suprised and says, "Aww, thanks Hannie."

Then we see the cute little moment where Hannah just leans on her moms shoulder, silent at first and then says in a soft little voice, "I love you mommy." Of course Kate LOVED that and said, "Awwwwww....Hannie I love you too!"

It just made me sick because it seemed like a normal conversation until Kate turned around and noticed there was a camera. Once she noticed that she was being filmed, she knew she could get her Golden Child to say that KATE was the best mommy ever.....once again stroking Kates ever-larging ego.

Seriously...could her ego get ANY bigger?!?!?! I'm asking this as a serious question!

Diane said...

Their language and rudimentary math skills are really pretty impressive.
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I found a bright spot in that episode. It showed that most or all of the tups can count to nine or ten!
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Shouldn't they be able to count to nine or ten...they're almost half that age!!!
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I don't find their skills impressive one bit when compared to peers their own age. If anything, they are lacking. It appeared one of the boys (I think maybe Aaden?) did not even know how to hold a crayon or scissors. He was holding his crayon with a fist. They absolutely should be able to at least count to 10. I taught pre-K for 5 years and most children in my class began the year being able to count to 20 (some even above that) and if they didn't, they quickly caught on because we counted on the calendar every single day.

2badSoSad said...

Ken said...
"But, to Jon and Kate's credit, what continues to amaze me is how intellectually "developed" the little kids are. Their language and rudimentary math skills are really pretty impressive."

The tups are not the babies that J & K and the producers of TLC continue to portray them as. They are 4+ years old and in pre school. At age 4+, the tups language and rudimentary math skills IMO, can be described as equivalent to if not falling below that of their same age peers. Far from 'intellectually developed' and 'impressive'.

Momto2inPA said...

Not to be rude to the kids but I wouldn't call their skills "impressive". My son is not even 3 and he can count to 20 (he usually misses 16, but we're all human ;), he knows his shapes, colors, and alphabet. He doesn't just recite the alphabet either, he actually recognizes each of the letters. I'm not saying the kids are behind, but I wouldn't say they're extraordinary either.

bicoastal said...

"But, to Jon and Kate's credit, what continues to amaze me is how intellectually "developed" the little kids are. Their language and rudimentary math skills are really pretty impressive. The parents must be doing something right."

KEN,
I'm sorry, but I must beg to differ. Their language really isn't all that great. They can't really speak in a complete sentence and a lot of times they use words improperly and are not corrected. Alexis uses him in place of he on many occasions and is never corrected. I think J/K like that they still use baby talk, it makes them marketable longer.

Lisa said...

Kon are a perfect example of that old saying "You need a license to own a dog, a license to fish, but they'll let anyone be a parent." These two should never have had more children. I suspect that with the twins they were probably better parents than they are with twins and tups. Now they are just useless as parents because they don't parent.

I did get the impression, when the tups were having their breakfast and lunch that they were being catered to rather than cared for by the twins. The twins are running around getting them their meals and never once did I see any of the tups offer a "Thank you" or any type of pleasantry. Which again, I refer back to Kon's lack of parenting. The tups are old enough to know or be taught "Please" and "Thank you". But spa treatments and golf are more important activities than raising children and teaching them how to behave.

highondegrassi said...

I forgot to mention something else...what was Hannah's problem when she gave that cocky face while drinking out of her sippy cup at the kitchen table?

Cheesetastic! Emotastic Best Kiss Sweetness! LOL

Wendy A said...

You know, I always have a hard time sympathizing with Mady, she drives me around the bend. (probably she reminds me of me) This time however I wanted to scoop her up and give her a cuddle. She is bossy and wants to be followed but she is never shown how to work with the tups. I always wanted to play school with the kids on my street and be the teacher. My mother helped me quietly behind the scenes without critizing even when I was too bossy.

Tigerfan said...

There is something very sick and twisted going on in the head of a woman/parent(Kate) who seeks validation and adoration from one child (Hannah) at the expense of the 'failures' of her other children (Mady and Cara).

KittenKat said...

We’ve now seen the twins learn how hard it is to be “Mommy” . . . how about a show where Jon and Kate learn how hard it is to be one of the Gosselin kids? Cara and Mady could wake their parents up at the crack of dawn, drag them through an airport, put them on a plane with one or two of their comfort items, and expect them to be cheerful and delightful to be around. When Kate speaks out, Mady could banish her to a corner and remind her how Hannah never behaves like that. Cara could remind Jon that as a boy he is just naturally dirty. You get the general idea here.

As far as Cara and Mady go, they are either starved for attention or personal privacy. Some episodes have shown delightful moments with just the two girls being themselves without the pressure of performing for the camera or pleasing their parents. I recall the episode when Good Housekeeping Magazine set up the photo shoot and Mady and a magazine staff person played the piano together – it was a sweet and unguarded moment that reinforced my assertion that that little girl simply gets frustrated because she has no one paying attention to her. The same can be said when Cara had her hair curled for the vow renewal ceremony – the hairdresser commented to her how pretty she looked, and dear, sweet Cara just melted. It breaks my heart to see these lovely girls lost in the shuffle and chaos of that household.

melissa said...

This episode made me so sad for the children. I have the urge to to want to step into the television and take over to show them how it is supposed to be done.Eight year olds should not have to know how "hard" a parents job is. It really bothered me that the parents were setting the girls up for failure, IMO. I have children, and while all my kids do help me out around the house with chores they do have some direction from me, so that they don't fail. When the poor twins were getting all stressed out ( and it never should have gotten to that point)a parent should have stepped in and offered some guidence, or put a stop to it all together!

ashley said...

The Gosselin ship is sinking, FAST.

Jennifer said...

It's interesting that many people seem to feel that Kate (and Jon) set the twins up for failure in this episode. That would imply that Jon and Kate *know* how to be successful parents. I think they were simply allowing the twins to parent the way they (Jon and Kate) parent, which is to offer no guidance at all and be resigned to chaos reigning supreme at all times. (Notice how, when introducing the show, Kate said that "the twins would be mommy for the day--serve a meal, clean up after a meal"? Is that the definition of being a mother to Kate?)

How often do we see active parenting on Jon or Kate's part in any of the episodes? Most of the time both of them are simply ordering the kids around without bothering to take the time to talk with or explain things to them at all. It's like they are always managing the one *moment* rather than trying to teach them any life skills.

Take, for example, Cara's crying about Mady taking over. Jon's solutions: either ignoring the situation completely, or forcefully telling Mady "you have to let Cara help." If you were an 8-year-old, would such instructions motivate you at all to share? Then, when Mady is upset because Cara's task of putting bibs on the boys is easier, how does Jon respond? "I need lunch served, now!" He doesn't address Mady's feelings at all.

I know Kate gets all the guff for being a bad parent (and I do agree that she is), but Jon isn't all that much better.

And the lunch prep scene totally gave Kate away as the noncook when Mady innocently exclaimed that Kate "made this whole thing" (the cheese steak); Kate's eyes got wide and she murmured "mmm hmm" before Mady clarified, "No, I mean you did [assembled] this whole thing just now." It's pretty easy to put two and two together from that scene.

I also noticed that both Jon and Kate said that Mady and Cara gave up on the day because it was "too hard" or "too much work." I didn't really see that at all. What I saw was Mady and Cara both expressing frustration with and competing with *each other*; Mady whined a little that the kids didn't listen to her, but other than that there's no indication that they quit because they couldn't handle the task of parenting itself.

ashley said...

I think that this episode really showed how life is like for all of the Gosselin kids. Its sad, Mady and Cara had no issues with yelling and throwing a fit. I think things are going very wrong in that household. Jon is snippy and just kinda off around Kate and she tried so hard to convince everyone that she doesnt yell, but everyone knows the truth. I wonder what the family would be like now if they had never done that first hour special........Im betting they would have friends and family around, they may not be living in a mansion or wearing expensive cloths but I bet those kids would be alot happier. I feel bad for the kids, none of this is their fault. Jon and Kate need to stop this madness before the damage to their children cant be undone.

Auntie said...

My 3 yr old can count way higher than 9 or 10 with no preschool. Her verbal skills are much better also. I believe the person or people who are impressed with their skills are not around young kids much, maybe?

Gregory House said...

I wonder where I can find the personal chef's recipe for that cheesey-chicken-pizza thing. Because I know damn well Kate didn't make that.

I believe that this is the first time we have seen a hot meal served for lunch. Way to make sure the twins were overwhelmed, Kate! God, this woman is evil.

Tami said...

My 10 yr old son loves spending time with and helping out his little sister. But if there were 6 of her, no way! He has a hard time sometimes with just her--and that is when he just voluntarily helping and I am right there. I'm sure she felt this would make her look like such a great mother who can't be replaced. But once again it totally backfired on her!

louise said...

As soon as the whole household realizes its uncontrollable -
the parents will have lost control forever.

DirtyDisher said...

Great recap, ThreeFarmers. You has skillz. Sad though. I don't think Kate Gosselin should be allowed to raise a gold fish. All the kids are horrid brats. No, not their fault, but, they are. And it's not good TV. Say bye byes, Kate.

Moons in Leo said...

Another great re-cap, 3F, but alas even you had a hard time finding any humor in this episode. Although I didn't watch it, it's apparent that TLC, their production company, and the Gosselins have hit a new low.

nofanofthem said...

I love the fact that Kate spent the "whole day" switching out the wardrobe from summer to winter, when in fact they just bought their KONpound. What a waste of time...I'm let to believe this was done just to give us the impression that the move wasn't underway.

BTW, did you notice the person in the garage when the door was opened to let the tups in for lunch. Who was that? Probably the official packer uppper for their move. Get a load of all of those boxes in the garage.

SpaceHeater said...

I missed this episode (on purpose) but the way it being laiad out here I may just have to catch a rerun. Did Kate really call Mady "ugly" in describing her mood? On TV? For all and Jesus to see? Why would kids need to know how hard it is to be a parent? Why give them reason to worry? Oh that's right - to feed Kate's ego.

Lizziedrew said...

Jennifer, I think you had an excellent point. I'm not sure J&K set the twins up to fail so much as they know nothing about actual parenting that they could impart to Mady and Cara. Parenting to them is serving and supervising, that's it. Which does sound completely joyless and unsatisfying, but even more so for the poor children that really need the guidance, discipline, consistency, and attention that is truly parenting. I don't know if KON are that clueless, that evil, or both. I also liked Jon's comment that the tups "don't respect their elders." Hey asshat, it's your job to teach them that. Be a parent!

3F, excellent recap as usual. What a sad, sad episode.

Thaise said...

"But these kids are 4 1/2... the bibs, highchairs, sippy or lidded cups have to go!"
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Ok, this has been discussed over and over and although I agree with the bibs (unless they're already dressed up to go out right after lunch) and partially with the sippy cups, I don't see what's the big deal with the high chairs. It's not like they isolate the kids from the table, like many regular high chairs. They simply allow the kids to be at a good height at the table.
J&K mentioned in one episode, when a viewer asked them where to find that type of chair, that they had 2 of them for Mady and Cara as well.
When I was a kid, my grandfather used to put books and stuff on the chair, whenever I went over their place, so that I could be higher on the table, up until I was six years old. Its the same thing as the type of chair the tups use, and I honestly don't see what's wrong with that... if someone has a different point of view with a point I didn't think of, please let me know... :)

Addison said...

You know, as awful as Kate was this episode, I actually thought Jon was worse. Telling Mady and Cara he wouldn't help them because "It's YOUR job! You guys wanted to do this!" over and over again, refusing to help the twins with the oven (which would have taken like two seconds) and not to mention the way he acted while playing soccer with the 'tups ("Joel get over your phobia.") It was disgusting. He was really in rare form this episode.

GrammyPie said...

After spending time with my 3 year old granddaughter the other day, I realize how far behind the tups are. She can count to twenty, knows her colors,knows her shapes, and her verbal skills are amazing. She is very independent, and horrors, you help her with anything, like dressing herself. She does not wear a bib, and yes she occasionally spills, but her clothes wash. She has 3 older sibs, and when one of them is watching her, she is given clear instructions to listen and obey said older sib. Both of her parents work. Mom is a nurse, and Dad works in computers. Honest. It can be done. Of couse it takes loving, caring parents to do it.

On another note, many bloggers are commenting on the teeth brushing in the kitchen. It is kind of gross, but how often have we seen Kate brushing hair in the kitchen, even on the counters. I find that way more offensive. Hair in your food is nasty.

TonysMom said...

Great recap. Sad, little, skinny, botoxed Katie Irene sitting alone in her recliner, not a friend in the world. Well, she got what she asked for, didn't she? She has isolated herself, Jon and the kids and it has always been all about her. Both Gosselin parents are immature and very petty. Sad, sad, sad for the kids.

timetogokon said...

Lizziedrew said...
Jennifer, I think you had an excellent point. I'm not sure J&K set the twins up to fail so much as they know nothing about actual parenting that they could impart to Mady and Cara. Parenting to them is serving and supervising, that's it. Which does sound completely joyless and unsatisfying, but even more so for the poor children that really need the guidance, discipline, consistency, and attention that is truly parenting. I don't know if KON are that clueless, that evil, or both. I also liked Jon's comment that the tups "don't respect their elders." Hey asshat, it's your job to teach them that. Be a parent!

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I would say the above comments hold true for most of what went on in this pathetic episode.

HOWEVER, I do think that Kate planned a lunch menu that she knew the girls would not be able to do themselves.
I have NEVER seen a hot lunch on that table, why would Kate pick one for this day ? She could have easily planned for the girls to make organic fluffernutter sandwiches along with scoops of organic applesauce or organic carrot sticks. She is an immature, spiteful, sad woman if she makes herself feel better by demeaning her own children.

acs75 said...

Did anyone else notice Kate cutting the sandwiches with that pizza cutter? Lordy Be Kate! What did that sandwich ever do to you??

PKD-in-Illinois said...

Well, I finally watched it last night and I must admit ... it was very disappointing.

I *do* believe the J&K set the twins up for failure. There was no way they were going to be successful with no guidance or help from the adults.

I am NOT saying Jon or Kate should've stepped in or taken over ... but they should've stressed to the tups that they needed to BEHAVE for the twins.

I swear, Jon & Kate are raising those kids like free-range chickens ... they herd them in an area and let 'em go.

BonniesMom said...

Great Recap. I noticed on the actual show so many things were blurred out, no product placement. The rats are leaving the sinking ship.

Meg said...

I have never posted here before, but I had to because I was shocked that no one has posted this yet (that I have seen).

The Gosselins now have a Christmas commercial where they wish everyone "peace" and "quiet." Well I was watching it, and Alexis, Collin and Joel are no where to be found. The rest of the family is sitting in front of a Christmas tree, but there are only 5 children there.

2badSoSad said...

Of all the easy peasy grapes,cheese and crackers on a plate lunches that Kate has got away with serving the tups, the day 8 year old Mady and Cara are in charge of preparing lunch Kate chooses a menu that involves specific preparation and the use of an oven and a cutting device(that she herself was barely able to manage)??

Charlie Rose said...

NONE of you get how hard it is to be Jon and Kate. NO ONE, do you hear me? :)

Jon and Kate believe that they are the only parents in the world who raise (attempt) children. Kate comments on how NO ONE understands them and no one has ever walked in their shoes...etc. Come on. LIFE is not that hard for the Gosselins. Raising these children would go so much more smoother IF you acted liked a real MOM and quit telling everyone how hard your life is and quit telling everyone how NO ONE understands you.

Seriously, what is there to understand? We get YOU! You are greedy and are in love with yourself and MONEY!

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

acs75,

Yes, I also noticed Kate cutting the sandwiches with the pizza cutter. She took her anger out on those sandwiches.

ThreeFarmers said...

For those of you who think that J&K did not set those twins up to fail, tell me, when Kate and Hannah were in the closet, did Kate want Hannah to say something good about the twins mothering skills? Or, did she want Hannah to agree that Kate was the best mommy?

Kate wanted to reinforce her own mothering dominance *cough*. She didn't want Hannah to say that the twins did a good job. Hence the opinion that the twins were set up to fail.

laura linger said...

KittenKat, that's an excellent idea. Turn the tables on Lord and Lady G, let them see what it's like to be a Gosselin child for a day. Just like Freaky Friday, they might be surprised at what they learn (if they are capable of learning anything, that is).

I saw the Christmas commercial too. My three favorite tups were not on it: Sassy, Collin, and Joel. Merry Christmas indeed.

undergrad RN said...

I think TLC's setting the show up for failure now.

Who could have foreseen the amount of money it would take to please these people?

Time to offload KON and replace it with some self-sustaining families!

ashley said...

Honestly Im sick of Jon and Kate, Im at the point where I just dont care what they do anymore, Im wondering if anybody else feels the way I am lol. I still feel horrible for the kids but I just cant stand Kate. Im wondering if this is how her friends and family now feel......

Snark said...

Meg said...
I have never posted here before, but I had to because I was shocked that no one has posted this yet (that I have seen).

The Gosselins now have a Christmas commercial where they wish everyone "peace" and "quiet." Well I was watching it, and Alexis, Collin and Joel are no where to be found. The rest of the family is sitting in front of a Christmas tree, but there are only 5 children there.

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Yes! I saw that too. I kept waiting for the commercial to come on again to double check, because I thought I was mistaken. I knew they were missing some kids, but didn't get a good look to see which ones.

Snarkygirl said...

Meg said...
I have never posted here before, but I had to because I was shocked that no one has posted this yet (that I have seen).

The Gosselins now have a Christmas commercial where they wish everyone "peace" and "quiet." Well I was watching it, and Alexis, Collin and Joel are no where to be found. The rest of the family is sitting in front of a Christmas tree, but there are only 5 children there.

12/10/2008 11:09 AM

I did see that commercial and wondered the same thing. Really strange.

Judy said...

Maybe the others were sick? It's that time of year.....
(Not defending....just adding another idea) :)

HW said...

There is nothing more pathetic than watching a mother compete with her own daughters. That's what Kate was doing in this episode - making sure everybody knew she could do it better than her eight year old daughters - how demeaning to the little girls.

HELLLOOOOOO! Jon's the screamer? Oh my gosh. She's such a hypocrite.

Jodie said...

For whoever was asking if the kids had vegetables with their lunch, I did see some mushrooms in the pre-made (probably by the personal chef) chicken mixture.

pippu said...

What a sad episode. It all seemed totally contrived. As usual. These people don't do anything spontaneously anymore.

I'm surprised nobody noticed, or mentioned, the kitchen scene where Jon says, "Hannah, be quiet" and Kate immediately snaps at him, "JON be quiet." He can't tell one of his children to be quiet? Oh, wait--he can. Just not Hannie.

It's also sad that Kate has the kids so brainwashed about keeping clean that one of the boys doesn't dare kick a soccer ball. The ball had mud on it and he might get his shoes dirty.

The lunch that was prepared looked like the personal chef (I bet that's the guy we saw in the garage) had prepared it and put it in the fridge for later. That chicken mixture was already mixed up in a container when they got it out of the fridge and all Kate did was assemble.

We got to see their HUGE bedrooms and HUGE backyard, where apparently there is not enough room for 8 kids to play. Thus, mansion purchased.

The poor twins were totally set up to fail, which Kate relished as Hannah told her that she was a MUCH better mommy.

Lisa said...

PKD-in-Illinois said...
Well, I finally watched it last night and I must admit ... it was very disappointing.

I *do* believe the J&K set the twins up for failure. There was no way they were going to be successful with no guidance or help from the adults.

I am NOT saying Jon or Kate should've stepped in or taken over ... but they should've stressed to the tups that they needed to BEHAVE for the twins.

I swear, Jon & Kate are raising those kids like free-range chickens ... they herd them in an area and let 'em go.

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LOL!!!! I love that!! They her them in an area and let them go like free range chickens LOL. Sorry can't type. Have tears in my eyes from laughing. That was a great line.

I too felt the same way that they tups should have been nicer to the twins and vice versa. It was a sad situation all around because the parents are idiots. Like I said in another thread though, it felt as though the twins were serving the tups not caring for them. It just seemed that way the way they were seated at the table waiting for their food to be served to them and none said "Please" or "Thank you." Which would reinforce the notion that the twins are collateral and the tups are the real stars of Kon's family.

Snarkygirl said...

I went to TLC and went to the J&K page and posted a question asking why all of their kids are not in their holiday commercial. We will see if they answer.

Thaise said...

regarding the Christmas commercial, I noticed Collin and Joel were missing right away, but didn't realize Alexis was missing until I read it here.

I know how these tv things work, they would've never allowed three kids to be missing unless they were on a deadline couldn't wait. So I guess either the three of them were not behaving well and had to be removed, or maybe fell asleep before the shooting...
as I said before, I believe a tv network would only allow the missing kids commercial to even be aired if they were behind on schedule and had no time to wait for them...

(I also noticed some of the kids were wearing pajamas that Kate had in the blue container with the winter clothes...)

..which leads me to think...if they recorded it recently and last minute, did they do it at the old house? they're obviously in the interview area...or did production re-create the interview area at the new house? what do you think?

AUNTYK.K. said...

I've been writing P&G, Figure 8, TLC, and now am writing their speaking engagements.
I look up where they're to speak and write the 'main person', or agent.
I've already heard back from one of the Feb. 2009 pastors. Even though they're paying the 'required speaking fee' he's stated they "wont' be giving a 'love offering'"..I've asked them to PLEASE look into the family prior to them attending.
Apparently its' $25,000, 1st class air-fair, and accommodations just to get them to a church/function.
Anyone else up to the 'challenge'.
Anyone else know 'other' sponsers for me/us to write?
Thankyou for helping to stop this mess, and help the children!!

Sidney said...

I was interested in how the recap would go, because I was wondering if there was any humor that I might have missed. Nope. There indeed was NO humor at all in this episode. If 3 Farmers can't find humor, there just ain't none!

uJealousOfmyMcMansion said...

Jon's hair plugs are coming in nicely and he looks in shape maybe one day soon he will be the man Kate wants him to be... I hope the hair plugs keep..

pinkdiamond611 said...

I would love to know where to buy that Brown Bear craft. I am a kindergarten teacher and from what I gathered, the "craft" is actually a retelling of the story Brown Bear, Brown Bear. It is a book that emergent readers love, because they can "read" using the repeated lines and pictures. Definitely not a "craft" for preK. Also, I question why Maddy would be asked to turn on the oven, as it was obvious that she and Cara never turned the oven on in their life. I thought they loved cooking and baking?

Travis said...

I haven't seen the holiday commercial but I'd like to make them one that wishes them "good" and "riddance".

Jodie said...

I thought they loved cooking and baking?

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No, they loved baking when Kate could send a recipe to Aunt Jodi's house so that she could deal with the mess and chaos. Or when TLC/Figure 8 was paying for cooking lessons for her kids.

Anonymous said...

i've never written on here before but this last episode just really outraged me. actually, this season in general has been different. it just rubs me the wrong way.

I’m getting on my soap box….
this is just another example of producers desperately fishing for something to make an episode about. this just shows that mady and cara will actually make it out okay ( i think). maybe a little high strung and compulsive, but I do believe they acted as any small child would when thrown into a situation where they were taken advantage of.

However, i am a little nervous about the tups. if u look back to early footage (the special or even season 1) the twins at that time, around age 4 were speaking in full sentences, and also, NOT using bibs and sippy cups. And the ‘premee’ excuse can only go so far. Unfortunately these kids still are at around age 2 ½ or 3ish. this i believe is there mothers fault. i dont think that morally, the producers could consciously stunt these kids growth only for the sake of television. i think it would be more expected that they would encourage jon and kate to have another baby. not try to screw up the other ones they already have. i believe the 'screwing up' is kates fault. i realize that she probably a very busy lady running around for eight kids being a stay at home mom.. WE GET THAT. But I think the reason these kids are having a problem with there development is because of the lack of time she spend with them. Also laughing and encouraging alexis when she says, “hims not real” is probably not the best way to improve there speech. I’ve also notice that they all say a lot of the things the same way because they really only hear things from each other. These kids are really going to have some issues with in the next few years. Hopefully there time at school (AWAY from kate) with give them a sense of normalcy and interaction with other full sentence speaking, big people cup drinking children. I wish them all the best and hope these kids are okay in the years to come

And I’m off.

melissa said...

I was thinking.... the reason that the twins had to make a hot lunch is because Kate wanted to serve the secret recipie of pretzels, grapes and cheese for the dinner time meal. She had to have been soooo tired from switching the clothes over and sitting in the chair all day, she couldn't possibly cook. :)

chicago teacher said...

Great recap - this one hit the nail on the head...

The twins are reading from a paper that lists the recipe. I'd bet $$ that came from the chef - which is why Kate later struggled to cut it with a pizza cutter, she'd either never made the darn thing before herself or she's just a complete idiot.

Hi chef, her name is Kate, ever hear of a knife and cutting board? I saw Jon use both before to make the Asian dinner...or are they already packed and shipped to the mansion exploitation built.

I'm sorry but this whole episode ticked me off. When you need to compare your adult abilities to an eight year olds, you have some issues! Very reminiscent of Joan Crawford in the pool with her daughter in Mommy Dearest

4thekids said...

Kate begins to berate Jon regarding a list of piddly crap so long that it out numbers Kate’s un-updated website devotionals

You get a resounding AMEN from me! So spot on!

Barb said...

For the teacher looking for the Brown Bear, Brown Bear activity, someone started a blog that finds all of the Gosselin items, so you can have them too!

http://gosselin-garb-finder.blogspot.com/

timetogokon said...

I'm sorry but this whole episode ticked me off. When you need to compare your adult abilities to an eight year olds, you have some issues! Very reminiscent of Joan Crawford in the pool with her daughter in Mommy Dearest.
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Wow. I thought the same EXACT thing.

virginia girl said...

3F - you are so on the money. I only watch the show so I can play it in my head with your recap! I should just stop watching altogether.

It was very apparent that Cara and Mady communicate just like their parents. The tups are heading down the same road. Seems that whoever screams or cries the loudest obviously gets the attention. I don't care that there are 8 children - the Duggar family isn't screaming at each other. Proof that it CAN be done when you parenting. It all just speaks volumes of the problems in that home.

Jennifer said...

HOWEVER, I do think that Kate planned a lunch menu that she knew the girls would not be able to do themselves.
I have NEVER seen a hot lunch on that table, why would Kate pick one for this day ?


My hypothesis is that the point of that elaborate lunch stemmed from the premise of the episode and Kate's incessant need to present herself as supermom: the twins were supposed to be *Kate* for the day. If they were going to serve crackers on a plate, that would imply that that's what Kate does, which does nothing positive for the image of herself that she tries to project (and that her endorsement contracts hinge on).

Big Mama said...

I don't think Jon was putting down Joel about having a phobia. I think it was a direct jab at Kate for making mini metros out of their sons!

What little boys don't get dirty (with the exception of these three)? Just like when Jon refused to answer Kate regarding him screaming like Mad Mady.

I do think it was crappy that Jon didn't turn on the freaking oven for the girls.

Oh, that guy in the garage is their Chef. He lives in those boxes and is allowed out for the Gooselins nightly feedings!!!

Sharla said...

Some inappropriate comments were removed and some were moved to the appropriate thread of open discussion.

Irish-Gal said...

I just watched this epi at eight tonight; the first I have watched on several weeks. At first I thought the reviews sounded a bit harsh, but now I know why.

The twins had no reason to be doing this activity, at least in this form. You could tell they had no interest in it anyway. Kate has some sort of issues with knowing her children's ages, she treats the twins as if they're at least 11 but the tups as if they're 2.5. I don't believe being "mommy for a day" to the extent of being expected to use an oven was at all appropriate for a 7yo.

I really did feel like they were being set up to fail. Since when do they eat cereal for breakfast and a hot lunch? The twins were being expeted to do MORE than normally doess. I found it a bit hysterical when Cara became uninterested and decided to go sit down. That was typical Kate. She asked why she wasn't up and about and the poor kid probably thought it was okay to take random breaks. That's what Mommy does! It would have just been a lot easier on them if the schedule involved pop tarts, cheese and crackers and quiet play in the garage with two white plastic "throwns" set up.

And what was the big deal with switching out the seasonal clothing and why should it have to take all day? It takes my mom about twenty minutes, maybe, to go through our clothes. It could have been entirely taken care of while the kids were outside playing with Jon. Where was she then? I take this is when she was doing it. If so though, I have yet to see what the big deal was.

The last comment Kate made about the twins realizing what she does on a daily basis really bothered me. Again, this wasn't an age appropriate activity. If they were at least, say 11, and had a depleting respect for mom than it would be understandable. No surprise that two kids who can't even do long division didn't meet her childcare expectations. I really don't think that this was done to show Mady and Cara how "hard" she works though, I think it was to show the viewers that someone else couldn't keep up with her day. I just hope that the viewers are smart enough to realize though that these temporary "parents" were 7yo twins.

it's true said...

For whoever was asking if the kids had vegetables with their lunch, I did see some mushrooms in the pre-made (probably by the personal chef) chicken mixture.

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Mushrooms aren't a vegetable though..

funkycatt said...

Are Seven year olds really allowed to turn on ovens? I thought you had to be much older than that.

Do you think Kate has EVER read a parenting book? Or had any experience with small children? It seems like so many people who have experience with kids, either as educators or parents can see Kate and Jon's mistakes as totally obvious. And yet Jon and Kate are totally clueless.

Lastly, I do think there is an element of setting Mady and Cara up for failure in the lunch. BUT i also think it is a Kate delusion. In Kate's mind, everything in her world is perfect. And in her perfect world her kids eat organic, healthy, balanced, hot lunches EVERY DAY. If you called Kate on the phone and asked "what are your kids eating" the answer would not be "oh some grapes and chips," but some perfect culinary masterpiece.

Unfortunately for Kate her parenting skills and lunch menu are broadcast for all of America. The gig is up, you know?

LapisLazuli said...

Jon: "After awhile, Mady and Cara gave up on being Mommy for a Day..."

Well no kidding!!!! If they didn't like it, weren't participating willfully...then leave them alone! Put those poor girls out of their misery.

Whose idea was this, REALLY?

Cearul said...

Thaise said...
Ok, this has been discussed over and over and although I agree with the bibs (unless they're already dressed up to go out right after lunch) and partially with the sippy cups, I don't see what's the big deal with the high chairs. It's not like they isolate the kids from the table, like many regular high chairs. They simply allow the kids to be at a good height at the table.
J&K mentioned in one episode, when a viewer asked them where to find that type of chair, that they had 2 of them for Mady and Cara as well.
When I was a kid, my grandfather used to put books and stuff on the chair, whenever I went over their place, so that I could be higher on the table, up until I was six years old. Its the same thing as the type of chair the tups use, and I honestly don't see what's wrong with that... if someone has a different point of view with a point I didn't think of, please let me know... :)

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I guess I'm going by how I was raised as well. We didn't have those kinds of high chairs in the 80's, I believe we used the phone book a few times. Bibs were gone by age two & were replaced by white t-shirts, but only for party dresses/outfits, etc. I suppose if they weren't still wearing those gross bibs (they are so stained & faded), they wouldn't continue to look like babies. Imagine how you would feel... almost 5 yrs. old & someone put you in a highchair & strapped on a bib. Embarrassed is the word. They can't even get into their own seat w/o help & this limits their independence & in return delays their development. If J&K treated their children age-appropriately, they would thrive.

Teryn said...

Addison said...
You know, as awful as Kate was this episode, I actually thought Jon was worse. Telling Mady and Cara he wouldn't help them because "It's YOUR job! You guys wanted to do this!" over and over again, refusing to help the twins with the oven (which would have taken like two seconds) and not to mention the way he acted while playing soccer with the 'tups ("Joel get over your phobia.") It was disgusting. He was really in rare form this episode.

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But I saw him turn the oven on. He stood right there and turned it on for the girls. I think Kate actually turned it off and turned it back on again. Obviously it was preheated because she told the girls the food would be ready in 15minutes right after she punched some buttons and put the food in the oven. It would have taken longer if the oven had not been preheated.

I serioulsy think she turned it off and back on to make herself feel needed.

Anybody else see the arrogance in her body language when she sits in the chair, feet propped up on the table, and picking at her hair? She always seems so smug when she sits like that. This time she had on dirty socks.

Carla said...

Imagine how you would feel... almost 5 yrs. old & someone put you in a highchair & strapped on a bib. Embarrassed is the word.

I was mortified for them. And to have your 4 years older sibling put your bib on..at 4 1/2? Ugh. I remember being that age and my grandmother bringing out a bib for Sunday supper. I had my Sunday best on, and the meal was pasta with red sauce. Doesn't change a thing in my memory. I refused to wear the bib and refused to eat. I spent the whole meal crying. Then later as a mother, realizing someone...anyone could have brought me a change of clothes. Grrrr.

Point is...it matters. And having it recorded for all to see....well, bad things are coming for these parents if they think it's ok!!

I have a whole other rant on playing "Mommy" to your siblings, but I just don't have the energy for this family.

elizabeth said...

This episode was so infuriating I found myself wanting to pull my hair out( or rather pull at kate's rats nest festering on her head. First of all, what are Jon and Kate so darn cranky and bent out of shape about lately? The new mansion, free trips, clothes, makeovers, diets, botox, and veneers aren't enough.
While Kate did berate Mady and call her "ugly" in this episode, once again I noticed that Jon and Kate singled out Cara when she walked away. I have noticed that while Mady throws temper tantrums on an hourly basis, Kate always justifies it by saying "oh that's just Mady" or "don't give up on Mady" or talks about how sad she is when she has to punish Mady. But Cara who IMO is a very sweet and caring child who is just plain neglected rarely misbehaves and when she does both Jon and Kate call her "hotheaded."
I almost died laughing when I saw precious Hannie make that face when Jon and Kate's back were turned. I finally realized while looking at her closely during this episode that she is really the only child in which I see some of Kate's facial features. Since we all know how much Kate loves herself and the way she looks, this could be another reason for the Hannah favortism.
The whole lunch scene was ludicrous! It drives me crazy the meals that Kate serves. She is always so self righetous and sanctimonious about feeding her children all organic and how they NEVER eat fast food. Kate- a half a cup of organic chips is not healthy or nutritionally balanced. I have always thought that the reason the kids are always so hungry and want to eat anytime they go someplace is because Kate doesn't feed them enough. For goodness sakes counting the chips? At that young age, children can regulate naturally their own hunger cues and will stop eating when they are full. We all know how Kate berates Jon for his weight and eating habits and I think she purposefully doesn't feed her children much either to keep them looking like babies or because she is chubby tups wont make for a more lucrative contract.
BTW, I was looking at the Goesslin's website and along with Multiple Blessings they showed ANOTHER book with the tups faces on it proclaiming that you can pre-order it on Amazon today!

Cearul said...

Carla said...
I was mortified for them. And to have your 4 years older sibling put your bib on..at 4 1/2? Ugh. I remember being that age and my grandmother bringing out a bib for Sunday supper. I had my Sunday best on, and the meal was pasta with red sauce. Doesn't change a thing in my memory. I refused to wear the bib and refused to eat. I spent the whole meal crying. Then later as a mother, realizing someone...anyone could have brought me a change of clothes. Grrrr.

Point is...it matters. And having it recorded for all to see....well, bad things are coming for these parents if they think it's ok!!


My point exactly... thank you! Your reaction to the bib was normal. What I don't see see from these kids is the desire to resist & refuse these things, like most 4 yr. olds.

Sarah said...

All I can say is, this is what we see when the cameras are on. Who there to say it's not worse when the cameras are off? I for one am fearful for the children when the show finally does get axed. How much KON will guilt, and shame them into thinking that it's their fault that "mommy and daddy lost their jobs". I would hope that the presence of the crew offers some protection as far as full blow abuse is concerned.

I have a huge pit in my stomach just thinking about it. I can't believe this episode. I was in tears by the end feeling AWFUL for all of them, but especially Mady and Cara.

I would hope that Kate would think about how easy it would be for child protective services to deem them un-fit with the hours and hours of footage they have, and could legally secure from Figure 8.
I'm not saying I think the kids should be taken away, I'm just saying they could make an emotional abuse case against her.

I've been watching, but I don't think I can, in good faith or conscience, watch any longer. I'm joining in the effort to write sponsors to beg to pull their ads.

Tami said...

But Cara who IMO is a very sweet and caring child who is just plain neglected rarely misbehaves and when she does both Jon and Kate call her "hotheaded."
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I believe we just don't see it on camera as much. She was really mean to the tups many times. It was so rude how she treated them in Hawaii when she was getting her hair done. She is not much better than Mady, just has a different and less loud way of showing it.

Allison Parker said...

In Jon's defense, I saw him turned the oven on too. After that he went out again to play with the kids. I think Kate was just lying when she said that Jon didn't turn it on. She just wants to feel important.

And comparing Kate to the older episodes, she seems to be so hostile these days. Is it because she isn't eating anything or is it because she has been frequenting this site and the comments are getting into her?

When the kids (particularly Alexis) were showing their Brown Bear activity thingy to her, she couldn't even force a smile off of her face. She looked so angry that the kids were bothering her "alone time".

When Alexis said that she was a good mommy, Kate gave Alexis a curt reply, "Thank you" and Alexis tried to climb to her or hug her but Leah was sitting on her lap and Kate did not even bother to do anything about that. But when it was Hannah's turn to appreciate Kate... hmm.

vipersue said...

I agree this was a really sad episode. The parents acted as or more immature than the kids. Kate clearly did everything she could to make the twins fail and make herself look good. I couldn't believe Jon told Mady he wasn't talking to her when she was in the garage because she wouldn't help him outside. Is he 8 years old? They both need to grow up and think about the needs of their kids 1st.

Diane said...

Imagine how you would feel... almost 5 yrs. old & someone put you in a highchair & strapped on a bib. Embarrassed is the word.

The sad part is, these children don't feel embarrassed. They think it's totally normal to still be wearing bibs and sitting in a high chair.

Karen said...

I know Kate and Jon think that NOBODY could possibly understand how hard it is to raise eight kids. I wonder if they've ever bothered to meet up with other families of multiples--like the Dilleys, who seem to have managed to raise seven kids (yes, all at once) by themselves, with a SAHM mom who homeschools. They do a YEARLY special (hear that, Kon? A once-a-year peek into their lives, no cameras in their bathrooms or bedrooms) so we can see the nice, mature young ladies and gentlemen they've managed to nuture.

Or even the McCaugheys. SOMEBODY who has managed to raise their multiples without having mental breakdowns on air every week or verbally abusing their spouses on national television?

Tess said...

Barb said...
For the teacher looking for the Brown Bear, Brown Bear activity, someone started a blog that finds all of the Gosselin items, so you can have them too!

http://gosselin-garb-finder.blogspot.com/

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I looked at this and have to wonder why would someone go to the trouble to create this unless they were paid by the companies of the products listed OR they have lost all their marbles. Have people lost all direction that they must seek to be like someone else? Advertising and the media have hihacked people's brains!

wildflowers said...

IMO, if KON had sat down with the twins the night before and first, ask them if this sounds like something they would like to do. Second, together plan easy, manageable activities. Third, talk to the tups and explain what will happening. Fourth, keep everything short and simple and mainly achieveable. But mainly, a day in 'mommy's life' can actually be a couple hours. It really wasn't necessary to drag this out, especially once everything went down hill. And for heaven's sake, after it all hit the fan, don't make the twins feel like they failed. They didn't, the biological beings in that house did. Even under the best circumstances, this should have been something other than seeing what poor, pitiful Kate has to do. Couldn't it just be a fun day with the twins pretending to be adults. Kind of like playing school or house. Kids don't need to see what it's like to be an adult. For the most part, kids need to be shielded from the adult world.
Again, IMO, these two biological contributors do nothing to make any of these kids feel secure in life, due to all of the reasons we all discuss. I just think that if my parents had been this inept, I would have been scared and feel like I wish someone would take care of me.

KarenWalker said...

Oh where do I begin? I finally watched this as a rerun and I gotta tell you - the news ain't good. Who needs to compare tehmselves to a child? Who needs to "prove" to her kids how hard she works? Kate's little digs at Jon in front of the kids needs to stop. "Dad didn't turn on the oven!" Kate, under her breath: "What a surprise." What a bitch. ANd calling Mady mean and ugly....yikes. I felt uncomfotable during the whole thing. I normally don't watch but after reading all the comments here I had to see for myself. It was worse than I thought.

Mom of 3 said...

I heve never critisized J/K for their parenting skills simply because I know that I am far from perfect and I heve 3 kids not 8. I make mistakes as a parent and I try to correct them. But this episode by far, to me, was the worst. Those children were set up to fail. They were both miserable and there was little if none encouragment from either parent. I pray that their classmate either don't watch this episode or at least blames the parents. ( boy, your mom is mean type comments.)
Who would do this to their child? I feel guilty having my 13 yr old son make lunch for my five year old, and he is not being filmed. Watching this episode really hit home to me that these kids are under an exteme amount of pressure. I can't imagine living their life the way they do.

Janice said...

Judy said...
Maybe the others were sick? It's that time of year.....
(Not defending....just adding another idea) :)

12/10/2008 12:50 PM


Why do people have to justify an honest answer by "clarifying" that they are not defending. Who cares if you're defending. If you have an honest idea, and it may not be against KON, be proud of what you write.

Barbara said...

I think the missing kids were staying at Aunt Jodi's or Beth's.

me myself & irene said...

"Dad didn't turn on the oven!" Kate, under her breath: "What a surprise."
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And yet, watch it on youtube. He did turn the oven on!

jkaz said...

I think I have more natural empathy for boys, since I have two, and no daughters. Although they are now in their 20's, we still have that "mother-son" bond that is so special.

It truly pained me to see Joel and Collin be wary of a soccer ball with mud on it. To me, it says that not only do they desperately want their mother's approval (which they rarely get), but they also are desperately afraid of her disapproval (which we've seen all too often - "boys are icky"). I fear for them, I really do.

There's a topic here from a week or so ago that I never posted on - What I Like About Kate - but here's what I would have said:

I like that Kate makes me feel like a good mother. Sure, there are some things I did or said to my kids that I regret. But at this point, I'm pretty sure none of that has made them damaged goods. I'm not so optimistic about the Gosselin kids.

scruffy's mom said...

Did you notice when Kate was going to kiss Hannah in the closet, how her big glob of hair got in the way?

And, at the end on the couch, how Kate and Jon fed off each other — almost proud — that the twins didn't last past noon. The twins are 8 years old! and Jon and Kate were gloating that they weren't able to keep up!
How sick!

Karin said...

Ok, so normally I read the wonderfully hilarious recaps and then go back and watch the show if I read anything that I just feel I absolutely have to see. And I know Kate is normally snippy. I have kind of gotten used to that, and accepted that maybe that's just the way she is. But during this particular episode, I kept thinking to myself, "what in the world crawled up her butt?" I mean, she was so horrible and snotty to everyone the whole day. I think I may have seen downright evil in that woman's eyes. It wa so creepy, the way she just sat around waiting for everyone to come crawling to her begging her to be Mommy again. I think that a good mother would have used this experience as a teaching tool and a way to build some self esteem. Or to actually make something fun that wasn't about her. And the way she talked to Jon at lunchtime? That did it for me. No way should those kids have heard that. This is the children's example of a happy Christian marriage?
These recaps are great. They are too funny not to read. But Jon and Kate? They just got erased from my DVR. This journey has officially gotten way out of hand for me.

organizedblogroll said...

Wow, Kate, setting them up for the Disney Channel, as Mady answered on that talk show recently!

Just think, soon the sextuplets will have their own show too. You will get that house in North Carolina soon, after all. I'm sure you got a great deal on this one, being that you bought in Pa. and a few shows ago, you couldn't wait to leave.
Guess NC RE is a little pricey,
even in a bad economy, so it may
take a few spinoffs of you show
and a few more books to buy enough land in NC.

Marie said...

Things I noticed:

You don't leave 8 yr olds in charge LITERALLY to teach them hard work. You encourage them to HELP you and give them age appropriate tasks. Kate's method was malicious and doomed to failure, as she planned.

It does not take a day to separate children's clothes by season. I don't care how many children you have. Her method of sorting and storing leaves much to be desired. She should take a tip from the Duggars and use a clothes closet off the laundry room.

Her older children do not treat her with respect, as they shouldn't since she treats her own husband with disdain. 95% of what comes from your children's mouth came in through their ears. She doesn't get that, nor will she.

Carla said...

Barbara said: I think the missing kids were staying at Aunt Jodi's or Beth's.

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This is a false statement.

flmomto5 said...

I stopped watchg J&K a few months ago due to the fact that they treated people not to nice at a meet and greet and I could not believe that in fact it could be true that they were really like this in real life. I was hoping the meet and greet bad attitudes had something to do with a bad day or something(not that that excuses their behavior). But at the time that happened I found this site, and saw that J&K are not really the good people I thought they were. I have tried to justify J&K several times in my mind, but reading this week's recap, and how sad and disturbing the show was, I am sad for those kids. They are doomed. J&K are truly selfish and money seekers. I think about them collecting offerings in Sept. at a church and then moving into their mansion in Oct. All I have to say is what goes around comes around, J&K beware. Funny thing is once you stop watching J&K you really do not miss it.

Irish-Gal said...

This isn't headed directly toward anybody, so no one in this board take it the wrong way, but I really do not like the excuse that the highchairs are like barstools. If they need barstools or the like to be proper height, then why don't they actually buy them barstools! You can buy fully backed chairs that I believe are said to be either called low-height or mid-height barstools. I remember sitting on barstools at 2yo, they just need to find some the right height. If not that there are other solutions.

You'd think it would seem strange to the twins even seeing their siblings still wearing bibs and such. I feel like those poor kids are being so squashed into those highchairs. Next time you're in a restaurant that has highchairs be sure to take a good look at them, that seat is awful small. At 4.5 I think the're more of a safey hazard than a safety precaution. I've even seen the tups stand on them and the parents never even said a word. That honestly seems MORE dangerous to me on a highchair than on a normal chair. Nothing can compromise good ole' supervision.

jocelyn said...

Someone said that they were being set up with the Disney channel...Well that is NOT a good idea (but when was the last time Jon and Kate did anything prudent?) Think about it folks....Britney Spears' sister had a show...I believe on the Disney channel....before she got pregnant....I believe Miley Cyrus's Hannah Montannah may have been (or still is) a Disney thing....Disney is not the wholesome entity it used to be (par for the course with the obviously money grubbing minds of Jon and Kate)...I wouldn't be at all surprised if their show moved over to the Disney channel or had more to do with Disney but....then again....The Gosslin parents are seemingly far more interested in exploiting their children than working real jobs...

Ilovemykids said...

Carla said...
Barbara said: I think the missing kids were staying at Aunt Jodi's or Beth's.
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This is a false statement.


Kate, is that you?

jkaz said...

Carla said...
Barbara said: I think the missing kids were staying at Aunt Jodi's or Beth's.

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This is a false statement.

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It's not a false statement - it's an opinion.

That said, I'm not sure why Barbara thinks that.

Denise said...

I used to watch this show every week! Now it's too hard to see the little ones so unhappy! And Kate, you really don't understand what life is about!My parents raised 7 kids. My dad went to work at 3 am.came home at 3 pm.Mom went to work every night at 6pm came home at 12 mid-night,she cooked by herself,cleaned the house by herself and always MADE our halloween outfits-WHICH I might add-she won 2 years in a row for them at my school!We didn't go on vacations either- When we got older 1 day a year we went to Rye playland. We always played outside on the lawn, with all the other kids on the block. So when Kate says she so tried all the time, I can't help but think of my Mom and all the other Mom's out there that DO NOT have the help that she has. They all must be laughing their heads off at her B/C this all will end one day and she won't know what to do. And one last thing if any one of us EVER acted the way Mady does every week my parents would have stopped it way before it got this point!

rap541 said...

You don't leave 8 yr olds in charge LITERALLY to teach them hard work. You encourage them to HELP you and give them age appropriate tasks. Kate's method was malicious and doomed to failure, as she planned.

There was no doubt in my mind that the girls would fail. For a couple of reasons including the one above. Who in their right mind seriously allow a 7 year old to care for a 4 year old with minimal supervision or attention and NOT expect the 7 year old to get bored and NOT expect the 4 year old to refuse to play along?

Thats one.

Two, who in their right mind really thinks a 7 year old is capable of handling 6 four year olds successfully? KON don't even handle the six kids themselves without whining and demanding help.

They're not winning any parenting awards with me over their entire show dedicated to whining how they are overwhelmed and then snickering with glee that they humiliated their seven year olds just to make a point.

Irish-Gal said...

The comment about not being able to expect a 7yo to take care of a 4yo reminds me of a story my mom told me. She came from a large family of six kids, and considering that it was the 60's and 70's, kids would babysit kids not a whole lot younger than them.

To get along with my point, one day my aunt, age 7, was left in charge of my mom, age 4, and my uncle, age 2. My grandpa was upstaris taking a nap, the only adult home, and my other aunt, age 9, was inside doing a project of some sort. She was sick of the little kids so she banished them outside with the door locked. While the 7yo was tending to the toddler, my mom was busy on her own trying to get inside. She knocked and knocked, but was not let inside. She eventually banged on the glass door so hard that her arm went through. She screamed and both my aunts finally realized what had happened, once seeing her arm gushing with blood. My grandpa was fetched and my mom ended up okay, but she was pretty lucky.

So I know this isn't a god comparison to what was happening at the Gosselin house, but a classic example of why you do not in all seriousness leave a 7yo in charge of a 4yo!

timetogokon said...

(IF you have read the book you will get that joke.),

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I didn't read the book nor do I ever plan to. Could you please clarify the above "joke"?

debi said...

All this show does is show an extremely dysfunctional family. I just don't get how some people think this couple are great. They set no examples for their children. The boys are being taught (by example) that women rule, and the girls are being taught that women can hit their spouses...and anything they do goes.

These children will have problems when they get older. They are (all) at this time experiencing entitlement, and what happens when this show goes off the air and the kids have to wait in lines for things? Have to actually pay for things they want?

This show needs to get off the air.

chocoboat said...

Did anyone notice that Kate did the exact same thing Mady did?

During the tups art project, Mady took over and did everything for them and didn't let them participate. Then when it was time for lunch, Kate took over Mady's job and did everything for her, while Mady complained she wasn't getting to do anything.

I was laughing so hard to see Mady rightfully get what she deserved... but afterwards I did realize she only did what she learned from Kate.

Unfortunately no one was there to do the same thing back to Kate, but I LOVED IT when Jon put her in her place two other times during the show.

In response to the "cancel the show" people- this looks like a normal family day to me, no free trips or so-called child explotation. People talk about how calm and nice Mady is when she's alone... well if you take the cameras away, she's still going to be living her life in a family of ten. Not every negative thing is the show's fault.

Dee Dee said...

I am so sick of seeing Jon showing off his athletic prowess for the cameras at the expense of his kids. When he kicked the soccer ball and hit one of the kids in the head - a shot clearly not intended for one of the kids to be able to return - that was it for me and I turned the show off. Hopefully for good.

debi said...

I think initially this show was to show a couple in "real life" raising a family of multiples. When we started to see the "same ole' same 'ole" every week, things changed. IMO it went from reality t.v to scripted t.v. Now things are planned out.

*Each kids had a special day.
*A day at Chocolate World.
*Trip to Disney
*Trip to the zoo
*Trip to Crayon factory.
*Trip to a vacation home to ski
*Trip to a vacation home on the beach
* The trip to Hawaii

Anyway, the list goes on. Who in the real world goes on that many adventures? Who can afford to? Will and do these kids even appreciate these trips and will they even remember them? If they do remember them, will they bring about good memories?

Who needs to watch the episode, then have J&K give us a play by play of what they did? These couch scenes make me sick. It's just a chance to see what total losers these two are. Jon says something...Kate either hits him or cuts him down. It just shows how a relationship of a husband and wife shouldn't be...hell you shouldn't talk to someone like that period. If he just takes it from her...that's his problem.

The life skills this couple are teaching their children is appalling. I heard Kate in one show say to one of the kids "Ignore Daddy...he's just mean". It was when Jon was trying to discipline one of the little ones. Those kind of comments will probably continue...and Dear, dear Kate you should never, NEVER say things like that about their father in front of them.

Neisha said...

While I do understand peoples concern about Mady on the floor, the reality is that she was being a child. That is what they do and I think that the purpose while it seemed like "a pedophiles dream" it was to show Mady as something other than a bratty "ugly and mean" person. As far as the favortism, that really gets my goat. When John shushed Hannah, Kate put him in place faster than she runs for freebies. As if telling Hannah to be quiet would cause the whole house to implode. Now that isn't to say I have an issue with Hannah, I just think that she has done such a job of favoring hur that her head is going to be bigger than the new KONpound they bought. And I see her sibling resenting her for it. How can they continue to say they like it as just their family of 10 when they do nothing to foster a team spirt. Those children deserve better. Shoot, I am a mother of 1 and I am disabled, I use a wheelchair and I still find time to talk to my child, sing with her, play with her etc. I don't understand how an able bodied person with all that help can never be seen so much as playing freaking patty cake with the kids. As far as Cara, I think she realizes that the more she freaks out the less time she has to spend in front of the cameras (ala Mady).

machinegunsmom said...

It's very surreal to read about an episode that I didn't watch--my first time!!--but it doesn't sound like I missed a whole lot...um, I'm just wondering why the girls "need to know," at 8 years old, how "hard their mother works." That shouldn't be something that Kate demands praise for, motherhood is a thankless job, something that your children suddenly appreciate when they have children of THEIR own--if Mady and Cara are ever EVER over their own childhoods enough to get to that point.

8-year-olds don't need to know how hard Mommy works. Of course, this is the woman who is making an episode out of donating toys to needy children instead of quietly giving them away without glory.

Pollywog said...

In response to the "cancel the show" people- this looks like a normal family day to me, no free trips or so-called child explotation. People talk about how calm and nice Mady is when she's alone... well if you take the cameras away, she's still going to be living her life in a family of ten. Not every negative thing is the show's fault. So, NOT a normal family day! Wow, I sure don't know of a family that sets their 7 year old daughters to fail at doing the job of being mom for their younger siblings for a day. If I do run into one I'm going to have to sit them down for a serious discussion. At that age I'd play house with my younger sibs but we did so for an hour at the tops. No ovens ever involved. That was some sort of nasty mind game so Kate could pat herself on the back while tearing down what little egos those twins still have. Horrid parents that gloat at their sticking to their own children. Ick.

chocoboat said...

Dee Dee: I don't think Jon is showing off for the cameras. He wasn't kicking the ball as hard as he could... just a little harder than a 4 year old is ready for. A few times during the show he's been throwing a nerf ball at them pretty fast, and they're laughing and having a great time trying to dodge it. My dad did the same thing too, and both he and Jon also bring it down to the 4-year old level most of the time too.

It's not a bad thing to show your kids that athletic activity is fun, and the boy (Collin?) who cried and went inside after the ball ran into him might need to learn that...

Pollywog: I don't think that "mom for a day" is unusual at all. It was a game for Mady and Cara to play, and keep all the kids busy while Kate's sorting clothes. Asking 7 year olds to make cereal is hardly slave labor.

It was a little unattractive for Kate use it as an opportunity to pat herself on the back on national TV though, but oh well. It was only upsetting for Mady and Cara because they fought and cried and made it that way themselves.

SkippyMom said...

Denise said...
"I doubt the twins wanted to do this either. Mady probably screamed at Kate "I could be a better Mommy than you" and Kate couldn't stand the challenge...."

^THIS^ - Gosh Denise I laughed so hard...funnily enough it is soooo true!