It's a Book recap

The latest debacle…er, episode of Jon & Kate + 8 proclaims in a decidedly exclamatory way that It’s a Book, as if they’ve never seen one before in their lives. Regarding Multiple Bles8ings, in an effort to review it, I’ve been on a waiting list at my local library for about 6 weeks. While I’m chagrined that so many people wish to read this heaping helping of organic verbal succotash, I’m bolstered by the fact that just as many of those same readers refuse to buy it. I wonder why Kate never suggests that people use their library rather than paying for books? Such a great money-saving tip.

Kate states from the onset that the book was written so that their memories are recorded before they are forgotten. Of course, after 4 seasons of their show, they must be hard up on documented memories. Perhaps they should purchase seasons 1 and 2 on DVD. Kate is so proud of herself for writing that book. A notion that is so steeped in crazy that I can feel Beth Carson rolling her eyes from my squatty little desk here in mid-Illinois.

Evidently, every single email they get tells of some reader alternately laughing then crying while unable to put down their book. I know this is a lie because MY email to them certainly didn’t read anything like that. *grin*

Now that the book is written, it’s time to promote it. That means taking the kids out of school, renting a bus, and heading to New York City. Jon mentions that it would be too boring to have a show about them just sitting around the house so that’s why it’s good to do all these trips. I’m sure the twins’ teachers would agree. Psst, Jon. If your life is that boring, then you shouldn’t have a show. The show is all about how not-boring your life is. Careful you don’t shoot yourself in the foot, son.

I certainly hope that the twins and tups have punched their time cards because they are about to set out on a 14-hour trip to the city to promote their parent’s book. Jon and Kate have just admitted that promoting is their work so if it is work for the parents it is work for the children. I think Paul Petersen should issue a ruling on this one.

But first, we must pay the bills and promote the Wii. They are playing some music game where everyone plays an instrument and they make a band. Several smiling children bounce around a bit then Jon orders everyone up to bed because they have to leave at 5 a.m. to get to NYC on time. While most of the kids immediately march upstairs, we see Hannah throw herself on the floor in a wee bit of a fit in protest of her bedtime, but editing takes over and we don’t get to witness the favored child come unglued. I give this kid a few more months before that long hair is gone and she’s sporting Kate’s yucca plant hairdo.

It’s morning and the bus is loaded and Kate yammers on for a while about how all of this promoting is normal for the kids and such fun. Kate spins a bit of fiction as she says that it isn’t stressful for her anymore. Thank you, Valium.

They visit Good Morning America where we don’t see much of the interview. Someone from the GMA staff passes out lollipops to the kids after their segment which doesn’t please Kate at all. They aren’t organic lollipops and the kids will get sticky. The children bicker and Kate takes the lollipops away, although Hannah is seen with hers later. She tells the kids that she saw a sign that read “no lollipops”. That would be parenting tip #86, I suppose.

They arrive at Fox and Friends, the second stop of the morning, to do a taped segment. Kate stresses that she doesn’t allow the children to do more than two appearances a day and they prefer that one of the two is taped. Kate doles out treats saying that the kids who crowd her don’t get a drink. Huh? Kate, you have 8 kids, it’s your job to be crowded. Perhaps your space would be less invaded if you’d put Hannah down now and then. It’s snacks and sippy cups all around before the kids are hustled onto this huge sofa where they can squirm and be noisy in full view of their parents.

We get a quick glimpse of someone from Zondervan, their publisher. We should see that the exploitive folks at Zondervan get some mail.

Kate, who now considers herself a full-on literati, tells Fox that the book is getting awesome reviews. Kate needs to get something clear. The word “awe” means having the power to inspire dread. The word isn’t necessarily positive. I know people use “awesome” all the time assuming it’s a positive description. It’s not. It is pretty darn funny that she describes her book reviews as things that inspire terror or dread. You stand in awe of something that has the authority to hurt you or has some power over you.

Kate says she loves to meet people. I would imagine that’s because it gives her someone else to which to condescend. Jon later makes the same remark. I guess they got their scripts mixed up.

Jon mentions something about being in a city of 17 million people. Um, Jon, there are a little over 8 million people in NYC. For your figure to be correct, about 9 million people would have had to rush out of the city upon your arrival simply to make room for your borough-sized ego.

Kate reiterates that the reason they wrote the book is so the kids know the struggle they went through but that they love and want every one of them. I guess she keeps saying this to off-set the previous statements she’s made that the tups are the result of an infertility nightmare and that they wanted only one baby. I’m sure the kids will work all this out in a reasonable way when they are teenagers. Jon and Kate AGAIN state how they are not going anywhere and they will be together forever. That’s because saying it makes it so.

While Kate went to the 700 Club to do an hour-long interview, Jon fed the kids lunch because it is important for them to stay on schedule. The fact that the children’s actual schedules have them in school at this time of day, notwithstanding.

Kate talks about how she does a lot of stuff by herself now. It seems she does her best parenting when the children are a couple hundred miles away.

The pressers are complete and the family heads to Central Park for some low-budget fun on the swings and such. The kids have fun, but Kate’s hair is starting to look a little wonky, so it’s time to relax in a carriage ride through the park. On the way, Collin runs into a pillar and is crying. Kate, with Hannah in tow, tells him he’s fine and shoves him over to Jon. Seems Colly can’t interrupt Kate’s quality Hannie time.

They climb into two carriages, with Hannie perched high atop Kate’s lap. The ride is the most enjoyable part of the episode. The kids are peaceful and a few snooze. After the ride, Jon is heard very clearly saying “Thank you very much, Sir.” to the coachman. Good for him. With all the concessions they are given in nearly every episode and as much as others go out of their way to accommodate this family, that phrase should be heard from all of them several times an episode.

It’s about 3:30 p.m. and time to climb back into the bus for their 3 ½ hour ride back to E-town. Kate mentions (sitting next to Hannah, of course) that the bus is a great place for the twins to do their school work. Actually, school is a great place to do their school work. Kate says she brought pajamas for the long drive home, but the kids are still in their regular clothes when they pull into the driveway.

Everyone is exhausted and most are sleeping, including Jon. Exhaustion is something Jon and Kate are used to. Not to insult Einstein, but the Gosselin theory of imbecility states that E = MC² - K. Meaning that energy can only exist without Kate and her omnipresent exhaustion. Kate, in fact, manages to suck all positive energy out of any situation. A human black hole where energy, motivation, and proper haircuts go to die. With all of this Kate-provided exhaustion and suction, I’m straining to avoid the obvious joke, but I strive to keep the censors happy, so I’ll refrain.

As a rare treat, instead of giving us a rundown of their packing process prior to departure, we get all the details of the unpacking process upon their return, because THAT makes such good TV.

I’ve just spent the bigger part of 30 minutes listening to Kate tout the success of her literary effort with nary a mention of Beth Carson, another of the book’s credited authors. Kate only lives a few miles from Beth, now. It’s only a matter of time before they run into each other at the spa. Sure hope the cameras are there.

Submitted by Three Farmers

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timetogokon said...

3F-

How many times can I say this: your recaps are outstanding and unbelievably witty.

A former supervisor of mine had this same natural ability of being incredibly articulate (she also was too freakin smart, went to Stanford) and to this day I think of her whenever I stumble on my words . I will now add you to the list !

Keep the recaps coming - you have a wonderful talent!

win-place-show said...

Great recap! I liked how Kate brought pajamas for the little kids. Maybe she wanted them to go to bed by 4:30. Remember that other episode where she wanted Jon to pu them to bed at 6:15?

Melissa said...

Regarding Beth - I can't help but wonder. Lots of people speculated a falling out between Carla and Kate. Maybe we will again see a reappearance of Beth.

Cindi said...

KUDOS to you Three Farmers!

You do such an excellent job with your writting skills.

I was having a bad day and you brought some much needed laughter to me.

fxfanatic said...

Great Recap!!

**Kate, in fact, manages to suck all positive energy out of any situation.**

My ex was like that. On the 4th of july we were watching fireworks and all he did was count the "duds".

Jon and Kate weren't counted. ha ha.

Izzie said...

Great recap! I love the part about listening to them talk about unpacking instead of packing being a "rare treat."

timetogokon said...

I will post this on various threads on this site:

I just received an email from P&G Everyday Solutions and it states that Kate Gosselin will be live in NYC, Wednesday, 12/3 at 101 West 57th & 6th Ave. Unfortunately, the time is not shown.

Are there any New Yorkers/New Jerseyites out there that could possible attend ?

Man, I used to live in New Jersey and I would have gone to this just for the opportunity to heckle Kate.

L.Stash said...

This may be a stupid question to people who have been on this site for awhile but what happened to Beth? Do we know? Or do we just assume something happened?


The constant attchment to Hannah has me puzzled. What is it about her that makes her parents cling to her? Is she just an easy going child? Is she perhaps not as able as her brothers and sisters? It's strange.

Kenzie said...

Melissa said...
Regarding Beth - I can't help but wonder. Lots of people speculated a falling out between Carla and Kate. Maybe we will again see a reappearance of Beth.

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I truely believe that if there was no falling out between Kate and Beth, that Beth would be out promoting the book with them...she has done her fair share of travelling with this family in the past- why would this be any different? And to those who say that Beth may just be choosing not to be on camera anymore, I would think that Kate would have no problem mentionning Beth as a co-author, regardless if Beth was there or not. IMO Beth has been banished to the long list of people Kate has used,abused and is now done with.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant!!! Threefarmers, you crack me up! Your posts are witty, well thought-out, and spot on! I have admired your writing before and have laughed out loud at your humor.

I have been lurking here for some time, reading as much as I can but have yet to post anything myself. I used to love the J&K+8 show but after the first couple of seasons became turned off by all of the free crap. Also, my heart was breaking from the way some of those poor kids are treated by their mom. I feel so bad for Mady and am amazed that anyone who claims to love their child would allow her to be so neglected that she has a need to act out. Kon sure aren't addressing her needs by excluding her from the "fun". Mady needs some one-on-one attention, understanding, and love. And my heart also breaks for the boys because Kate treats them like second and third class members of the family. The kids are adorable and I hope that their parents snap out of their greediness before the children no longer stand a chance for a normal childhood and decent parenting.

This blog site has restored my faith in humankind. I can now see how smart, articulate, understanding and caring so many people are. Thanks!

Kayla

RuthinVA said...

Just looked at the pictures of their new house, hope they bought it furnished at least it will have some personality.

This new house might be the downfall of their show. It is now hard to claim poverty and have the fans believe it. If people still give love offerings after seeing their new house on their show they deserve to lose their money.

liked the book said...

I just want to say that if you read the book you will know that it is about the pregnancy and the 1st yr with the tups. It does NOT mention the show except to talk about when they were contacted about doing the 1st hour. I have purchased the book and read it twice...it was enjoyable.

ThreeFarmers said...

Thanks, everyone. This was a pretty easy recap to write simply because the episode was so ridiculous. I had it done before I went to bed last night.

I don't know why they insist to perpetuating so many lies.

Bicoastal said...

3Farmers:

I'm trying to avoid redundancy; I can't. Your observations and snark are spot-on (granted, I don't watch the show).

Have we gotten to the part where we can acknowledge the KON fans are evangelicals? Considering the publisher is a Christian book joint, I think it's fair to speculate that the KON book buyers are conservative Christians opposed to abortion.

I don't think the fan demographics excite the Gosselin parents much; clearly KON wants to hang with "cool" celebrities, not rural church ladies bearing tuna noodle casseroles, modest incomes and stupid questions for the visiting "famous" couple.

Maybe that's why KON act so bored at their church talks; the two yokels looking down on the lesser yokels. Frankly, I think they all deserve each other.

nj2az07 said...

Fantastic recap. I've stopped watching the show (I don't miss it AT ALL) and I am so glad I've stopped watching. Just from reading your re-cap I can't believe those kids gota $250 video system for free; oh wait, yes I can, they get everything free!!!

Kikilia said...

Where can you find photos of their new house?

Mari said...

Check this out, my husband was in the room while I was watching this episode and he couldn't help looking up when Kon said something to the effect of, "They love going to Central Park everytime we come here"...he was like, "How often do they go to New York City?! Wow!"
Good point, my love.

Refusetowatch said...

RuthVA said...

Just looked at the pictures of their new house, hope they bought it furnished at least it will have some personality.

This new house might be the downfall of their show. It is now hard to claim poverty and have the fans believe it. If people still give love offerings after seeing their new house on their show they deserve to lose their money.

I think I know what you are trying to say, but I think their first home was nice, and their second home was nicer. I don't think that they had a "poverty" leg to stand on...ever! Kate just chose to complain about EVERYTHING at every single moment of every day. Lots of big(ger) families live in houses much smaller than theirs and somehow they appreciate what they have.

Sarah said...

I'm confused by Kate saying they wrote the book to pass on memories to her kids. Ever hear of a photo album?

protect8 said...

Hilarious recap! Your recaps are now an integral part of the Jon and Kate Plus 8 experience and I eagerly await their arrival on the board on Tuesdays. Does anyone know if J&K ever read this board?

Jon and Kate contradicted themselves so many times in this episode my head is still spinning. " It's work - no it's fun! - no it's exhausting - no I enjoy it ...." Clearly they are constantly saying things to try to do damage control based on the bad press they have recently received. Wow - how many times now have they reminded everyone that they plan to stay together? We saw you get "re-married" - enough already.

And I love that Kate is now regarded as a parenting expert (and she honestly seems to believe this) when in this episode alone she talks about rewarding the kids with food though this is a number one no-no given the childhood obesity problem in our country. Give them a hug, Kate. Get down on their level and talk nicely to them. Or smile and quit looking so irritated all of the time with your shoulders hunched over while you wring your hands in front of your chest. Your kids already fear and mimic your discontent.

And as ThreeFarmers pointed out - parenting rule 86? Just lie to your children to get them to do what you want. "A sign that said no lollipops ..."

Big question! Why aren't these children - well, at least the older two - in school? Are they in third grade? Don't kids learn important skills in third grade? I'm not trying to be funny by saying neither Jon or Kate appear to have the intelligence or discipline (after all it's all about kate all the time) to maintain the girls' education while they are "on the road." TLC should at least hire a tutor for them. If they had to follow the same laws that child actors do, an on set tutor would be required. And yes, their house with its permanently installed stage lighting is for all intents and purposes a set.

Kate liked the boat ride in Hawaii in spite of all of her whining and complaining before boarding so she asks the captain to take them out for two hours longer than planned. Jon likes the carriage ride so next time he wants to go way into Central Park and take a long ride. Greed, greed, greed and more greed.

What goes around comes around in terms of how parents talk to their kids and someday - well, Jon and Kate are going to get the disrespect thrown back at them 8 times over. How I hope the cameras will be rolling then. Parenting experts? Give me a break.

RuthinVA said...

I think I know what you are trying to say, but I think their first home was nice, and their second home was nicer. I don't think that they had a "poverty" leg to stand on...ever! Kate just chose to complain about EVERYTHING at every single moment of every day. Lots of big(ger) families live in houses much smaller than theirs and somehow they appreciate what they have.


I understand you think they never had a poverty leg to stand on but a lot of people did and still do. I am hoping this will help to open their eyes. You saw through them from the get go a lot of people have yet to do that.

Anonymous said...

Really enjoyed your recap.. this is so funny and right on target.

Mari said...

Refusetowatch said
This new house might be the downfall of their show. It is now hard to claim poverty and have the fans believe it. If people still give love offerings after seeing their new house on their show they deserve to lose their money.


Unfortunately, my dear, I made a similar comment on another forum and this is the retort I got:
0.0 WELL! didnt the gosselins move for 2 reasons!? they needed to move to warmer weather and second they needed MORE SPACE!!!you try living in that house with ten people and camera crews! tsk!tsk! and insulting? that they want their kids to have some nice things every once in a while?

Touche...NOT! And please...."needed to move to warmer weather"? Unless the tups are asthmatic or KON is suffering from tuberculosis, I don't think they NEED to move to warmer weather. Besides, I had no idea parts of PA never got cold in the wintertime! =P
Some people will continue to give in to the ruse!!

jmgamg said...

3F, I loved your recap! I was laughing the entire time. Thank you for writing it!

Moons in Leo said...

Thanks for another great recap, 3F.

Did anyone else hear the chatter about the names of the carriage horses?

Kate's was 'Marcello,' and when she asked Jon the name of his horse, Jon replied, 'Horsey.'

And we wonder why the kids might be a bit behind in vocabulary.

Also, Cara and one of the girl tups shared a non-organic lolly on the 'bus.'

pinkdiamond611 said...

Great recap. My mini-recap is as follows: Kon wrote the book for the kids, not for the money. The book is so deep someone read it for three hours straight without putting it down. Kate pretended that she doesn't freak out over minor things such as sticky lollipops and not being able to get into Central Park because of a contruction fence. She would never do anything to interfere with the children's schedule. (I guess missing school and eating meals in a bus don't count) Safety is of outmost importance because they were riding in that bus withoug seatbelts, forget carseats. Kate still needs a new hairdo. :-)

fxfanatic said...

I must say that I love all the people here and your opinions. I just went to AMAZON to read the reviews on the book and couldn't believe all the support they have. Did you know that they have 2 sets of multiples? Did you know that college costs a lot??

The defenders totally crack me up because, and we all know this, Kate wouldn't give these folks the time of day, unless she was giving them something. They don't "respect" their fans at all.

machinegunsmom said...

I wish I could say I no longer watch the show because I can liken it to eating fast food--it seems like a good idea, I think I want it, and then afterwards I feel bloated and uncomfortable...and nothing but regret.

This episode might have been okay if it weren't a half-hour long dog and pony show: "look how pretty and priveledged we are". And honestly, could Kate please muster some friggin' enthusiasm? She's trying SO hard to seem "old money" and blase about her newfound "celebrity" and all of the cool stuff she gets to do that us regular folk can only dream about. It's ever so dreadfully boring to go to Broadway shows and gallavant in Central Park...yawn.

Jon said their life wouldn't be exciting to watch if they just sat around at home--I have two issues with that. A) I disagree, I would much rather watch their home life because that was the whole purpose of their show, to let people peek into their windows and satisfy their curiosity about a family with twins and sextuplets. B) If that's all they do, why was Kate always "exhausted?"

I'm guessing the reason they don't film at home anymore is because they don't LIVE at home anymore. In the last few episodes, we've gotten as far as the garage.

I guess that "almost 4,000 square foot," 5-bedroom home with the sprawling backyard just wasn't luxe enough for the greedy Gosselins. Meanwhile, as I sit in my in-laws' basement trying to save money to buy a house half that size...well I'm sure you could guess that I would gladly take their castoffs.

And finally...I know it was just a commercial for the Wii to pay the bills, but the kids appeared to be having a lot of fun playing without the threat of Kate telling them they're doing it wrong. Too bad she couldn't join in on the fun, except we probably wouldn't have had the chance to see Mady in such a great mood.

noteventhetrees said...

First off, great recap, as always!

Second.. did anyone notice that when Kate was taking away lolipops she asked for Hannah's (and ONLY Hannah's) wrapper so that she could save it for later?? I know I probably shouldn't be shocked by that - but it really made me feel bad for the rest of the kids! She clearly said it loud enough for everyone else to hear... "give me your lolipop....give me yours... do you have her wrapper?" COME ON!!

Laura Linger said...

"Actually, school is a great place to do their school work."

ThreeFarmers, this is the best line in any recap I have read yet. Good to see your recap.

Anonymous said...

The recap was perfect.

What I thought was so obvious in the show was when they were on the Fox Show. All of a sudden I realized that the younger children were all dressed in very dark colors which was weird.

The twins (with Cara looking VERY unhappy again!) very dressed in white shirts.

But then there's KATE dressed up in a VERY bright yellow/gold shirt which makes her stand out significantly from the group.

I actually felt a twinge of embarrassment for Kate as her need to stand out and get the most attention was just too obvious.

ps. I think it will come as no surprise when Cara moves across the country (or to another country!) the day she graduates from high school!

Sam said...

I'm not trying to stick up for Kate here, but it looked like Hannah had just barely started her lollipop and the other kids had just about finished theirs.

L.Stash said...

I read the book as well and it was enjoyable to a point. however as I said in another post it was not well written. It was more report of the events then a story about the events.

It lacked description and voice. If it wasn't Jon and Kate I can't imagine anyone calling up their friends and saying "You have to read this book! It's so good!!"

I read the book before I found this site and I made sure to tell my friends that the writing seemed stunted.

It may have to do with the fact that I read alot of books. So maybe my idea of good writing is different then most peoples. I mean the facts were there but not much more. It did express love and that they were grateful, which I expect people on this site will call damage control. Maybe it was I don't know. All I -know- is that it was bland.

Anonymous said...

Whats with Hannah? Is it just editing, or is she really treated differently from the others?

When the tups were 3, J&K referred to her as their 4 yr old because she was mature and believed she was to grown up to play with the others.

I think they have it all wrong. I think she is very shy ( think special day/horse) and clings to Kate and they reinforce that behaviour

From looking at the episodes, I would not call her a leader.

bcd5 said...

HA HA HA!!! I laughed so hard I almost cried when I read "Kate's hair was starting to look a little wonky." That sounded hilarious! And, by the way, when does her hair NOT look wonky?!?! Great post, keep up the good work 3F.

Tigerfan said...

In response to: "Unfortunately, my dear, I made a similar comment on another forum and this is the retort I got:
0.0 WELL! didnt the gosselins move for 2 reasons!? they needed to move to warmer weather and second they needed MORE SPACE!!!you try living in that house with ten people and camera crews! tsk!tsk! and insulting? that they want their kids to have some nice things every once in a while?"

When I read comments such as the above I just cant help but think they are written by tweeny boppers. But sadly enough, I believe more often then not such comments are actually the opinions of grown adults.

Ravevllo said...

Three Farmers, kudos for another great recap. I had a bad day at work but you made my day when I opened this blog.
Your writing is totally on target every time, just love reading your comments as well.

The Hannah situation is beyond irritating, they are doing the kid no favors with the constant babying and preferential treatment. My heart aches for the other kids, especially the boys.

Poor Colin really took it on the chin this episode.

Kate was obnoxious and arrogant in NYC, of course she is so sophisticated and has arrived in the celebrity world. She looks down on the little people now. She is head and shoulders more worldly than people like me who are awed and humbled by New York.

wramblinwreck said...

Another great recap, 3F. Wickedly wicked hilarious! The recaps on this site are better than the show (which I no longer watch), and I especially look forward to yours!

fxfanatic said...

I wish I could say I no longer watch the show because I can liken it to eating fast food--it seems like a good idea, I think I want it, and then afterwards I feel bloated and uncomfortable...and nothing but regret.

Funny. I was JUST going to make a post about how I don't want to watch but I do.

I also eat fast food.

Anonymous said...

Just my 2 cents......
I think the reason that Jon and Kate never say thank you to anyone is because they feel that they are the ones that need to be thanked for allowing the companys to advertise on their show, since afterall they're the #1 show on TLC. (Gag)
another thing, I have read the book (from my local library) and in it Kate states that she feels closer to Hannah because she was the first tup that she got to hold and she bonded with her first. She also states that Joel was the last she got to hold and it wasnt until he was almost 2 months old.

MoMom said...

The Hannah favoritism is out of control. I can't believe that any parent would so obviously favor one child over the other 7. Over and over again. And the few times that Hannah isn't glued to Kate it is because she has requested Jon and her request is always granted. No wonder she is developing a snotty little teenage attitude.
And when Kate walked Collin into the pole she couldn't be bothered to stop and see if he was ok. She acted like he was too heavy for her to pick up and made Jon do it. But we know that Hannah is the heaviest tup(from their checkup episode where she made them reweigh poor Collin) and she is always picked up. Just breaks my heart!

Wendy Bird said...

Thank you, 3F! Brilliantly, brilliant as always.

I got "let go" at work today, so reading your recap really brightened my day.

"Yucca plant hairdo"...still laughing...

FreeJoel said...

Funny stuff, but you forgot to mention one of the most disgusting parts of the episode, when they got off the bus at their house in the end, Kate hurried Joel off the step (he was walking in front of her) then turned to offer a loving hand to Hannie, to help her down the stairs.

What a biatch.

Anonymous said...

I think I know what you are trying to say, but I think their first home was nice, and their second home was nicer. I don't think that they had a "poverty" leg to stand on...ever! Kate just chose to complain about EVERYTHING at every single moment of every day. Lots of big(ger) families live in houses much smaller than theirs and somehow they appreciate what they have.
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We are a family of 7 & our house is 1200 sq ft, but guess what it's all we could afford. I should give Katie Irene some real pointers on saving money & living within your means.

Anonymous said...

JON AND KATE:

You may want to think about how to support yourselves when we common folk all loose our jobs and no one will be able to afford cable tv. You just keep sitting pretty in your mansion. I'll just try to scrap up enough to feed my kids. And no, it won't be organic!!

Anonymous said...

Was it Collin that banged his head on airplane when he fell? Boy Kate, what do you think these boys have done to make God so mad that he his whacking them on the head like crazy!!

HW said...

Another great re-cap. Thanks so much.

Hannah is in for a lot of resentment from her seven siblings. They are sure to begrudge her this favored status far into their adult lives. Jon and Kate need to realize how this is effecting all of their kids. I know, fat chance.

"We always take them to Central Park." How many times have the poverty stricken Gosselins been to New York?

Does Kate enjoying torturing young children? First she takes ice cream away from them at Disney World, markers at the Crayola factory, the candy thrown at the fourth of July parade and now lollipops in New York. These kids are going to have serious hoarding issues for fear of losing everything that brings them pleasure.

Jolene said...

Anon 12/02/2008 4:11 PM--I think you are right. All the parts with Hannah seem to be to be obvious edits. I think TLC is doing it to irritate us.

protect8--how can Jon wanting to go back for a long carriage ride be greedy? I don't get that.

Scoliosis99 said...

This epi was boring. Do KON believe we want to see THEM now? I noticed they wernt in their PJS when they got home. Poor Joel didnt get to sit by mommy on the ride. Good thing Jon was there to save him.

Anyone notice on the commericals now (that ANNOYING one with the song "its a beautiful life") that a golden retriver puppy was chasing one of the girl tups....did Jon win and get a big outside dog?!?!?

Allison Parker said...

If Kate's excuse for favoring Hannah is that she got to bond with her first, and the reason why she is treating Joel like crap is she only got to see him when he was two months old already, then shouldn't she be closest to Cara? Wasn't Cara the first born?
Shouldn't she compensate for lost time with the other tups instead of focusing on Hannah all the time?
Kate, you should be ashamed of yourself for treating your kids like that. No matter who's the first one you get to bond with, they are all your kids, and they all love you equally.

timetogokon said...

Wendy Bird-

Fist, so sorry to hear about your day =(

What I noticed from your post is that, even after losing your job, you came to the site and still had something nice to say.

Kate has everything (and then some) that a person could want or need, and she still is a pissy, miserable person. Just goes to show money can't buy happiness, or class for that matter.

Hope things looks brighter for you soon.

oldsouth said...

"A human black hole?"
Kong "is" one big black hole in the universe.
Another excellent blog---hey Kate?
Ya listening?! hahahahahah

Cindy said...

I know I'll get a lot of whiplash for this, but I don't see Kate not loving the boys. I see episodes where she's on the living room floor kissing and playing with them.

I think the putting in words of how she bonded with Hannah is being thrown back at her. my two cents.

Samy I am said...

Yes Cindi,
I did notice how Jon waved to the crowd like he was the homecoming queen. I am surprised that Kate didn't say "Ohh him's mommies little homecoming queen"

hedvigjo said...

Hi -- I finally found a blogg, talking about this show. I wanted to make a comment about the "Yard Sale" episode. Kate has always irritated me *I watch cause of the kids!!) but...during this show she had to call a radio station to let people know about their sale. Then while the two of them were sitting on the couch talking about it she said something about the people at the radio station thinking that she and Jon were trying to publisize their show and her arrogant comment was "we don't need to." This woman is a piece of work. Anyone else catch that? Also, anyone know where their new mansion is? Wonder if they moved to "someplace warm." Poor Beth - I was waiting thru the whole program on Monday for either of them to say something about their co-author - what a couple of real jerks.

Cindi said...

Cindy,

Yes we saw the eppie where she rolled,laughed and played with the boys on the floor. To me it seemed so rigged. Our Katie Irene would not do that naturally. How many times have you see the girl tups on the counter and she is so sweet and kind with them?

Joel on floor
Girls on counter

Collin injured
Hannie held

Barb said...

Can't these children sit still for a cotton pickin' minute?! It drives me crazy to see them talk and squirm during these interviews. I teach and I can get 32 1st graders seated, with eyes on me, hands folded and feet on the floor for more than 5 minutes!

Wendy Bird said...

timetogokon said...

Wendy Bird-

Fist, so sorry to hear about your day =(

What I noticed from your post is that, even after losing your job, you came to the site and still had something nice to say.

Kate has everything (and then some) that a person could want or need, and she still is a pissy, miserable person. Just goes to show money can't buy happiness, or class for that matter.

Hope things looks brighter for you soon.


Oh my gosh! Thank you so much. I work in the financial industry in administration and operations. They were "overstaffed". It really came as a surprise. I had no idea that it was coming. Thank you, again, for your kind words.

This blog is my "escape". I truly appreciate all of the posts (especially the recaps.)

Tangerine Tanya said...

Barb I couldn't agree with you more.I wish just once(actually more then once) that Kate/Jon would say "Be quiet and sit still"
Did you notice how Maddy said out loud "Oh you said our names in birth order" Geez she has a mouth like Kate. The apple doesn't fall far.

The Martin's said...

Barb said...
Can't these children sit still for a cotton pickin' minute?! It drives me crazy to see them talk and squirm during these interviews. I teach and I can get 32 1st graders seated, with eyes on me, hands folded and feet on the floor for more than 5 minutes!

12/02/2008 7:18 PM
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Well they aren't 1st graders they are 4 !! And no they probably can't sit still. If you want to see kids sit still watch the Duggars... LOL

My daughter is 4 and she is like a mexican jumping bean !!!

The Martin's said...

A few questions and comments....

1~ Who knows for sure that the kids were taken out of school to go to NYC ? Maybe it was a day off ??

2~ Yes Beth is listed as co-author of this book but this book is about Jon and Kate not Beth. I really don't think they had a "falling out" and just like the Carla comeback, I think we will see her soon. I don't see it as a problem that she isn't going on TV with them to promote it. What is she gonna say ? "I helped Kate make everything sound nice?"

3 ~ And as far as the Wii. The youngest on LPBW was playing Wii on an episode 2 weeks ago. Wii is featured as a sponsor everywhere you click on TLC's website. So I don't think it was something that they specifically got. And while I would love to have one good for them that they get one.

4~ Everyone keeps commenting on how they are claiming "poverty" still. I haven't heard them mention being poor in a long time.

Tangerine Tanya said...

The Martin's,

I clearly heard Jon say that parking was too expensive. Whaa whaa. So that huge bus was cheap?

Anonymous said...

I know I'll get a lot of whiplash for this, but I don't see Kate not loving the boys. I see episodes where she's on the living room floor kissing and playing with them.

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There is exactly ONE episode that Kate is hugging or kissing a boy , and that's the episode where they are preparing for the Hawaii trip. Kate is showing the kids their wedding video.

Kate is rolling on the ground hugging and kissing Joel. That scene was so contrived it was truly pathetic. More blatant damage control after KON's PR (yes, Jon, I know that means Public Relations) people read all the comments about Kate being so cold to all the boys , especially Joel.

Joel received more physical affection ( none of it genuine, unfortunately) from his own mother in those few minutes that I have EVER seen in many, many episodes.

SmartyQ said...

12/02/2008 4:11 PM Anonymous said... Whats with Hannah? Is it just editing, or is she really treated differently from the others?

When the tups were 3, J&K referred to her as their 4 yr old because she was mature and believed she was to grown up to play with the others.

I think they have it all wrong. I think she is very shy ( think special day/horse) and clings to Kate and they reinforce that behaviour

From looking at the episodes, I would not call her a leader.


I respectfully disagree about Hannah's being shy. Hannah gets what Hannah wants. Remind you of anyone else you've seen on the show? Queen Freebie Irene, I'm talking about you.

I've seen episodes in which Hannah mowed down the other tups to get to QFI or Prince Ka-Ching for carrying and/or cuddling. In one episode, QFI was sitting cross-legged on the floor with Hannah perched on one leg. One of the boy tups approached, and Hannah quickly slid into QFI's lap so there wouldn't be any room for him. The boy tup only wanted to ask something, but that quick-as-a-cobra move showed a great deal about Hannah and trees and nearby apples.

QFI isn't nor has she ever been a leader, and we all know she's not mature. Hannah is QFI's Heir Apparent, which is why, IMO, Cara somewhat kowtows to Hannah (seeking Mommy's approval) and Mady has been known to take a swipe or two at her (seeking frontier justice).

The saddest part isn't Hannah's future life. It's that QFI is determined to weld Hannah and Leah into a unit and to lump Alexis in with the icky boys. (Leah and Hannah are allowed to leave their beds to cuddle with Kon. Alexis was banished to the basement for awakening others.) I really wonder what the future holds for Leah and Alexis. Will Leah see a percentage in insinuating herself in Hannah's and, therefore, QFI's good graces? How will Alexis respond when she figures out she's the female Joel?

Mari said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eycCUuz9_Jo

"Good one, Kate". I wonder why they didn't show this interview on any episode?
Maybe because TLC wised up to the fact that Mike and Juliet were making fun of KON!

Anonymous said...

A few questions and comments....

1~ Who knows for sure that the kids were taken out of school to go to NYC ? Maybe it was a day off ??

2~ Yes Beth is listed as co-author of this book but this book is about Jon and Kate not Beth. I really don't think they had a "falling out" and just like the Carla comeback, I think we will see her soon. I don't see it as a problem that she isn't going on TV with them to promote it. What is she gonna say ? "I helped Kate make everything sound nice?"

3 ~ And as far as the Wii. The youngest on LPBW was playing Wii on an episode 2 weeks ago. Wii is featured as a sponsor everywhere you click on TLC's website. So I don't think it was something that they specifically got. And while I would love to have one good for them that they get one.

4~ Everyone keeps commenting on how they are claiming "poverty" still. I haven't heard them mention being poor in a long time.

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Sounds to me like you are rather precariously perched on the sheeple fence.

1) Valid question - anybody know?

2) You need to open your eyes . Beth is listed as a co-author, she should be on the book tour. Beth was in so many episodes, and then nothing. Same thing for Aunt Jodi.
IIRC Carla was not a friend or relative, she was a "helper". Yes, she was in the yard sale episode, but did you hear her say more than 10 words the entire episode ?

3) Yes, the Wii is everywhere, but saying "good for them that they got one" implies that it's not a big deal. It's a big deal because it's just more product placement so they can keep their kids working.

4) They still collect "love offerings", they still charge for pictures, they claim they have to save for this outing or that outing, they claim to use KMart's layaway, etc.

From your comments, you do sound very much like a KON supporter, which makes me sick to my stomach.

Kris said...

I just stumbled upon this site...and am not a fan nor "not a fan" of the Gosselins. I have to ask...why do you watch the show if you don't like it? Just curious...I do enjoy your wit. :)

Anonymous said...

Kris-

Haven't watched in months but I do enjoy the recaps.

Personally, I did like the very first episode, but after seeing Kate in her many moods (and seemingly , personalities)I found this site and the rest is history.

I think it's interesting that the sheeple (not you) constantly monitor this site for the latest, yet hate all the comments on it. Same thing.

Wendy Bird said...

Mari said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eycCUuz9_Jo

"Good one, Kate". I wonder why they didn't show this interview on any episode?
Maybe because TLC wised up to the fact that Mike and Juliet were making fun of KON!


I hadn't seen this interview before! Mady says that she wants her own show on the Disney Channel. Kate responded with "Whatever makes them happy!"

There is no way Mady has a chance at that. Can you imagine how difficult she would be to work with? Of course, Disney would be making a huge mistake if they ever took on Mady, because with Mady come Kate. "Sing Mady!" (Kate holding the camera and videotaping Mady on the flight to San Diego.)

I saw Mary Poppins of Broadway (nosebleed seats) in October, and the children in that show were nothing less than stellar. They do much more in the show than in the movie; a lot of singing and dancing, and of course they spoke with a British accent. By the way, they have three sets of children who rotate doing the show because they are professional actors who are given the courtesy of having their childhood somewhat respected.

Anonymous said...

4) They still collect "love offerings", they still charge for pictures, they claim they have to save for this outing or that outing, they claim to use KMart's layaway, etc.
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She just made a ridiculous comment lately about having 8 kids in college--implying it is going to be a hardship for them. They also recently griped about how they will have to pay for weddings, etc.

Anonymous said...

IMO, Kate is over-compensating for Hannah's shy personality by treating her as the favorite child and constantly stating that she's a leader. I see Hannah as the least articulate and bright of the group and this favoritism is Kate's effort to make up for that.

Anonymous said...

I know I'll get a lot of whiplash for this, but I don't see Kate not loving the boys. I see episodes where she's on the living room floor kissing and playing with them.

I think the putting in words of how she bonded with Hannah is being thrown back at her. my two cents.

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Episodes as in plural? Which ones? It sounds more like you have not watched any of the shows. If you had, you would show that neither of these "parents" has much love for boys. Jon has said 3 is enough and they want to adopt another girl--making it 6 girls!--and Kate has slammed them over and over.

ThreeFarmers said...

For the record. I found the Gosselin segment on the GMA website by searching for Kate's meatloaf (bleh) recipe.

Their segment aired live on October 16, 2008, which was a Thursday and not a holiday. That's how I can say, with reasonable confidence, the kids were taken out of school.

Click Here

In the segment, Kate is wearing the same brighter-than-the-sun yellow top that we saw on last night's episode.

Anonymous said...

I just watched the video Mike and Juliet video on Youtube, and as they were settling down to start the interview, all the kids sat down somewhere and Hannah instantly went to her mom. I don't think J&K intentionally give Hannah better treatment or special privileges. I just think that Hannah is more attached to them and has a personality that's more compatible with them than the other kids. I've seen this happen in many families, including mine.

It doesn't mean they love her more. But if a child is always around her parents, looking for their protection, its only natural that she'll end up getting more attention, as opposed to kids that are more independent and don't lean on their parents as much... It's just my opinion, but it is based on many experiences....

Harriet said...

I haven't watched the episode and it pains me to say it, but according to the school calendar Oct 16 was an off day to allow for parent teacher conferences. Were they in NY for just one day because Friday was still a school day.

Harriet said...

It doesn't mean they love her more. But if a child is always around her parents, looking for their protection, its only natural that she'll end up getting more attention, as opposed to kids that are more independent and don't lean on their parents as much... It's just my opinion, but it is based on many experiences....

A really good parent pays attention to such things to make sure that one child doesn't get markedly more attention than another. Independent children shouldn't be taken advantage of that way. It's called paying attention to what's going on and making sure things stay fair. With 8 one should pay all that MORE attention to what is going on.

Tess said...

Did you catch when Kate said something to the effect that she forgets that people go to New York as tourists but she goes there for work? Lots of people travel there for work! It's not just the city that Kate built or sustains!!! However, it might be one of a handful of cities that can take her ego and either dish it back or put her in her place.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

timetogokon, I love your word "pissy"

Nikki said...

I can't help but comment about Kate and her ridiculous organic-ness. She seems to think that because the lollipops are organic they are 'healthy', sugar is sugar, organic or not. It just drives me insane. She thinks she is so holier than thou because she feeds her kids organic lollipops. What a quack. She has mentioned these things in multiple episodes and it is annoying every time. Organic things can still be junk food, I wonder if she even knows what it means.

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER episode that barely features the children at all. Do they not realize why people watch the show?

Nice product placement with the Wii, too... I guess a show that has 11 minutes commercials vs 19 minutes of show just needed more advertising.

On the positive side, at least it wasn't another vacation, and both Jon and Kate came off nicely (in my opinion anyway). Kate seemed to have fun being with the kids and was doing some parenting... I did enjoy the "no lollipops" sign, you have to admit that was funny.

Kris said...

For the life of me I cannot pick out which part of this recap I enjoyed the most.

It was all so hilariously (and sadly) true.

Thank you!

Anonymous said...

Wendy Bird: heh, Mady with a show on the Disney channel? Hey there's nothing wrong with letting a kid dream... but yeah, she has no chance, even with her current head start on TV.

Child actors, especially on Disney, seem to have the same traits... they're always happy and outgoing, love to work, never seem to get upset, they're just always "on" and never get tired of it. You know what though... I could totally see Alexis doing it.

One other thought- I wonder if the kids still watch the show on TLC. It's sort of a mean thought, but I can't help but wonder if there's any jealousy of Leah, who gets featured prominently in all of the commercials since she's the cutest one. Mady and Cara are never in them at all.

Anonymous said...

It's not the parents clinging to Hannah, it is Hannah clinging to the parents. This is NORMAL folks. She may have stronger needs than the other kids, so good for her for getting her needs met. I see Kate holding the other kids all the time, but no mention of that in the recaps.

timetogokon said...

I haven't watched the episode and it pains me to say it, but according to the school calendar Oct 16 was an off day to allow for parent teacher conferences. Were they in NY for just one day because Friday was still a school day.

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Ok, but then shouldn't KON get their priorities straight and go to a parent-teacher conference ?

avidshrewwatchernolonger said...

Ah, Three Farmers, another brilliant recap! I'm now fully weaned from watching and eagerly await your recaps. So witty and well written, your recaps are reason I no longer feel any compulsion to watch! Keep up the good work and thank you for making me laugh out loud at the office!

One last thing. The new konpound is quite the taj mahal; however, if those of you have found it in the same manner I have, you need to check out the rather large chateau across the road to the northeast of the konpound! WOW! Now that is impressive!

heidiiiii said...

October 16 is Bosses Day. Unless their school district was celebrating, I think their classmates were in school.

I am in no way a sheeple..at all but I wanted to say something about them getting the larger house. If you had eight children and the means to buy a larger house wouldnt you? They are just going to continue to grow. The kids (if they are allowed) will be having sleepovers and friends coming to do homework in the future. Seems smart to use the gravy train for a larger house now while they can.

Back to the recap. Loved it! You make me laugh. I enjoy your postings. I like to watch the show now only when hubby has the night off. We enjoy pointing out things and rolling our eyes into our skulls. This show has jumped the shark on so many levels that it is time for them to go.
Let us see them in a few years when the kids are older. Graduating from high school, getting married, sending KON to the home.

Katiedid said...

The twins did not have school on October 16, as it was a parent conference day. Clearly, special arrangements would have to have been made for the Gosselin's conferences, but the children did not miss any school that day.

iltsim said...

Just noticed the post about Kate being in New York on 12/3. The kids must be spending lots of time with the nannies as they were all just in Memphis over Thanksgiving weekend. We saw Jon & Kate out shopping...no kids or film crew with them. I do not think I would want to get "expert" parenting advice from someone who only sees their kids when it fits into their promotional tour schedule.

Coral said...

I don't know what others think, but in watching the one boy hit his head on the pilar, I think it was Kate's fault partly. She was holding his hand and I think Hannah's. She made sure Hannah got through the way and in doing that, the boy hit his head. Then she let go of him and let Daddy attend to him. She has no care. I never see her nurture them with hugs and kisses. Has anyone seen her kiss any of them? Has she ever kissed Jon except maybe at the remarriage?

Chrissy said...

haven't watched the episode and it pains me to say it, but according to the school calendar Oct 16 was an off day to allow for parent teacher conferences. Were they in NY for just one day because Friday was still a school day.
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On the GMA interview they talk about seeing the play Mary Poppins the night before. Jon also says they have to get up in the morning to go to NYC so they probably spent at least Wednesday night in the city.

Nan said...

Very surprising that Kate was holding Hannah a lot during the NY trip.
She usually holds one of the boys...say Joel. (wink, wink)

Anonymous said...

Harriet said...
I haven't watched the episode and it pains me to say it, but according to the school calendar Oct 16 was an off day to allow for parent teacher conferences. Were they in NY for just one day because Friday was still a school day.

12/02/2008 9:41 PM

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They were in NYC for two days, they also saw the Mary Poppins play. There was school for the twins during this time.

CincyMom said...

Please don't allow posters with curse words in their names. It is insulting to read.

Also--I am confused by a time detail. If Jon said they had to leave at 5 to do all this promotion stuff, wouldn't that have put them there way to late to comfortably do a segment on GMA? And I had read that they saw a performance of Mary Poppins the evening before this. Remember the suitcases?
So I am betting they went up the day before, but would be shocked to think they still had to leave that early.
So the time thing still confuses me.....

Ginny303 said...

Great recap 3F, Thanks again for the laughs. Did anyone else notice Kates slip when she said our "First" Book?

wramblinwreck said...

"A really good parent pays attention to such things to make sure that one child doesn't get markedly more attention than another. Independent children shouldn't be taken advantage of that way. It's called paying attention to what's going on and making sure things stay fair. With 8 one should pay all that MORE attention to what is going on."

At one time, I thought this is the type of subject matter we would see on this show. We're told Kate does such an incredible job at parenting, but what we're shown raises plenty of questions. I know editing is always a factor, but there have been too many episodes with very little content to show that Kate consistently makes the effort to assure all of her children receive the attention they deserve. That, to me, would have to be the major challenge (other than economic issues) for any parents of a large family. But in many episodes we've seen one child receiving what appears to be a disproportionate amount of attention. If Kate were really making the effort to avoid favoritism, I'd think we would have seen that by now, even though each episode is only 22 minutes, because there have been so many episodes aired to date. I feel sorry for the kids who are less favored, especially the boys.

Anonymous said...

She just made a ridiculous comment lately about having 8 kids in college--implying it is going to be a hardship for them. They also recently griped about how they will have to pay for weddings, etc.


8 weddings in hawaii will be expensive 8-)

Jim S said...

The book is currently #16 on the NY Times Best Seller list, a rather quick fade since it only spent three or four weeks in the top 15.

My daughter would like to be on the Disney Channel too, but she's 16 and neither an Obama or a Gosselin, so I guess she'll have to make it, as John Houseman used to say, the old fashioned way--earn it. I'd say Mady's just being an eight-year-old with pipe dreams, but hopefully she's not already of the mindset that this minor celebrity is a stepping stone. If so, it's just another sad side effect of this whole thing.

louise said...

Enjoy the recaps. I sincerely hope these folks can get their lives together before the lights go out. Get a realistic budget and try to live with it prior to the end. Four years of freebies from groceries to housing, they maybe in for a shock.

AmandaT said...

Bicostal:
I am an evangelical, conservative Christian and opposed to abortion.
However, because I am a mother myself, and because of my religious views, I am also opposed to KON.
There is no way that I would ever spend money contributing to the exploitation of those children.

As for the Beth situation - there is no way she is still around. Even if she wanted to be off camera, then why absolutely no mention of her from Katie?
I'm not sure why people are so impressed that Carla is still around. I had thought she was always the paid help, not a friend who chose to be there.

Kristina said...

I find it seriously odd that Jon and Kate need to keep reassuring their kids that they are truly wanted and that they are never going to split up. She's always saying "so that they know they are truly wanted" or "so they know we will always be together." Is there a little insecurity going on here??

Frieda said...

Parenting tips from these two clowns??? No thank you! With or without TLC, I am a better person and parent. Funny how Jon and Kate can't seem past that.

Oops, I forgot they already sold their souls to the devil... all for the sake of greed.

cdn view said...

I've watched this show on and off since the beginning and share the vast majority of opinions I read here. But I must admit I was surprised by the comments with regards to Kate favouring the girls, and then I remembered the "one on one" episodes (where each child got to spend time alone with Mom and Dad).

If I'm not mistaken Kate joined in for each girls day but Jon handled the boys alone.

Wow - how could I have missed that before now.

What bothers me most about her parenting is the anal retentiveness. The worst was her freaking out at Disney when the kids were getting ice cream on their clothes. There she was grabbing ice cream from the hands of crying kids! - Jeez lighten up!.

I think their biggest challenges are ahead with the twins.....I have a teenager now myself and they can try the patience of the best parents.......just wait for Cara and Maddy.

Anonymous said...

"They were in NYC for two days, they also saw the Mary Poppins play. There was school for the twins during this time."
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Why is the twins country day school allowing them to take off all this time? I know that schools allow kids to miss school for bereavement, sickness, and unforseen crises, but to go to NYC to be pimped out on a book tour? It seems to me that Mady and Cara have missed quite a few days already this school year. Are the twins still really attending that school or is that just a facade too? Maybe KON pulled them out and hired a tutor whom they are treating abysmally, no doubt. What do you all think?

ABC said...

#16 on the Best Seller list is phenonomal. No quick fade there. Lots of folks have bought the book which amazes me. If they write like they talk, it must be like reading a Dick and Jane book. Obviously, there is interest there. I like most of the show but can do without the couch chats with Jon and Kate. The kids are adorable and I really like them a lot. Jon and Kate are fairly dumb folk and he is as inmature as can be but I think that is associated with his lower IQ.

wramblinwreck said...

"It's not the parents clinging to Hannah, it is Hannah clinging to the parents. This is NORMAL folks. She may have stronger needs than the other kids, so good for her for getting her needs met. I see Kate holding the other kids all the time"

I disagree that Kate has been shown holding the other kids "all the time." No one has said she never holds any of the other kids, but based on the episode content, she is shown holding or interacting with Hannah much more frequently than the others. Even if Hannah is more clingy, Kate's superior parenting skills should be able to deal with that in a way that helps Hannah to learn that she cannot dominate Kate's attention to the detriment of her siblings. But we haven't seen Kate addressing Hannah's clinginess (if that's the issue, rather than favoritism), which would be a real life circumstance that should be included in the show. No wonder the audience is left to draw their own conclusions about what they see.

Tigerfan said...

At one time, I thought this is the type of subject matter we would see on this show. We're told Kate does such an incredible job at parenting, but what we're shown raises plenty of questions. I know editing is always a factor, but there have been too many episodes with very little content to show that Kate consistently makes the effort to assure all of her children receive the attention they deserve. That, to me, would have to be the major challenge (other than economic issues) for any parents of a large family. But in many episodes we've seen one child receiving what appears to be a disproportionate amount of attention. If Kate were really making the effort to avoid favoritism, I'd think we would have seen that by now, even though each episode is only 22 minutes, because there have been so many episodes aired to date. I feel sorry for the kids who are less favored, especially the boys.

12/03/2008 7:04 AM

The content of the J & K reality show offers nothing to its viewers with respect to HOW J & K as parents, manage through a typical day. The show provides zero 'evidence' of Kate's so called uber organization, the planning, budgeting and preparing meals for a large family, how J & K manage keeping with a routine and consistency within the household, how religion plays a role in their parenting/personal lives etc... In all the tv appearances and magazine interviews references are made to the above, however, the reference is merely an assumption on the part of the interviewer and or Kate simply 'tooting her own horn' because I have yet to see any evidence to substatiate that Kate Gosselin is worthy of the title 'super mom' above and beyond that of having given birth to 8 children. IMO, in all the wonder that is often used in describing Kate Gosselin is that of a pre conceived assumption on the part of others, and one that Kate Gosselin neither elaborates on or denies but allows to continue for the sake of preserving an illusion in order to further her own self serving agenda. It amazes me how so many can be in such awe of and inspired by NOTHING more than verbage and hyperbole founded on a pre conceived idea that is fueled by assumption.

Ravello said...

I have no idea whether the kids had a conference day while they were in NYC but they were definitely there more than 1 day so they almost certaintly missed some school. Each school has it's own calendar, not sure what calendar the previous posters mentioned.

As far as the new house goes, I don't quibble with their wish for more space but they purchased a 1.3million dollar estate. Who in the world needs that? Where did they get the money for this home? Do they have jobs- of course they do not.
The kids earned this money, KON would not be famous if it were not for the tups. The tups are the wage earners in this family and have been for several years.

I have a problem watching 2 healthy adults loaf around and then hear they purchased a 1.3 million dollar home. KON did not earn the money. Their kids did. They exploited 4 year olds on national TV and toured the US doing love offering events,collecting cash from well meaning people.
I attended a love offering so I know it goes on. They haul out baskets of cash donations and they sell pictures for $20.

Weed said...

I'm pretty sure they had school the following day because they had to do their homework on the bus ride coming home and with such a full day - why not stay another night if not for school 'cause you know they weren't paying for anything, right?? Those kids have to be "exhausted" from all that running around. No wonder Mady gets so irritated. I don't care what anyone says - Kate favors Hannah plan and simple whether she says it's because they bonded first or not. And she does treat the boys and Alexis like 2nd class citizens. I do hope that changes 'cause kids pick up on that and I see that Joel already knows his place in the family, poor little guy.

Anonymous said...

Just noticed the post about Kate being in New York on 12/3. The kids must be spending lots of time with the nannies as they were all just in Memphis over Thanksgiving weekend. We saw Jon & Kate out shopping...no kids or film crew with them. I do not think I would want to get "expert" parenting advice from someone who only sees their kids when it fits into their promotional tour schedule.

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couldn't they be with a relative or nanny at a hotel? Many hotels offer babysitting services...

Melibee said...

I had thought she was always the paid help, not a friend who chose to be there.

12/03/2008 7:52 AM
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You are right - Carla was paid help, not a family friend.
Remember the episode where Jon had to work on a Saturday (you know, when he had a real job...) and Kate took the kids to Chocolate World - she had Carla go with her. And at one point Kate made a comment at the end of the day about how Carla was now on "overtime".
I never saw any affection between Carla and the kids at all either - she was just doing a job.

Moons in Leo said...

I wonder who might have had the misfortune to be at the same performance of "Mary Poppins" that the Gosselins saw.

I can't imagine any of those kids, never mind the parents, sitting still that long.

Chris said...

"They were in NYC for two days, they also saw the Mary Poppins play. There was school for the twins during this time."
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Why is the twins country day school allowing them to take off all this time? I know that schools allow kids to miss school for bereavement, sickness, and unforseen crises, but to go to NYC to be pimped out on a book tour?
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I called a couple of friends who are "head of school" at different day schools. They both said that all students are expected to be at school everyday except in the case of illness etc. If there are excessive absences due to "entertaining grandparents" and the like the parents are "invited" to enroll there children in a more appropriate school the next school year. This was also the case when my kids went to parochial school.

timetogokon said...

I am in no way a sheeple..at all but I wanted to say something about them getting the larger house. If you had eight children and the means to buy a larger house wouldnt you? They are just going to continue to grow. The kids (if they are allowed) will be having sleepovers and friends coming to do homework in the future. Seems smart to use the gravy train for a larger house now while they can.

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If KON want to buy a new house for whatever reason, fine. BUT....
they should purchase the house with $ they themselves earned from working, not from the $ their kids earned for them.

As for friends and sleepovers, that will never happen. So sad.

wramblinwreck said...

"If they write like they talk, it must be like reading a Dick and Jane book."

I think Beth's role in authoring the book was editing the original manuscript from Kon's Dick and Jane-speak into something a publisher would accept. Which means she deserves her share of the credit in getting the book to market. Sadly, I haven't seen one mention of Beth's contribution in any of the interviews, except the GMA appearance, and even then it was the interviewer who mentioned Beth as one of the authors, and Kate's only response was, "Yes." I think the interviewer was giving Kate the opportunity to say more about Beth's contribution, and it was very obvious Kate had no intention of doing that.

thehazlettfamily said...

Listening to this video on youtube.com the interview took place in June so the girls would be out of school.

Tigerfan said...

Kristina said...
I find it seriously odd that Jon and Kate need to keep reassuring their kids that they are truly wanted and that they are never going to split up. She's always saying "so that they know they are truly wanted" or "so they know we will always be together." Is there a little insecurity going on here??

12/03/2008 8:18 AM

I find it seriously odd that TLC feel that J & K entertaining viewers with ad nauseum reminders of ' we love each other', ' how much the children were wanted, ' 'we will be together forever' , watch us as we renew our vows is even worthy of air time.

SamanthaGrace said...

Okay, I'll admit I've missed an episode or two. But how much school have the twins actually missed? Even if they missed Wednesday for the NYC trip, that's just one day. (Since the 2nd day was a conference day.) I don't recall any other days where they've been taken out of school...J&K wouldn't even let them stay home for their birthday last year! So please tell me what I have missed, because I only know of that one day they missed.

DaybyDay said...

Does anyone remember when J&K took the twins to NYC for their Bday at American Girl? It was kind of sweet - they got up very early to ride the train, and it was clear when they got to the city they weren't "old pros"...I get the feeling that one wasn't a freebie, but truly planned (and gasp! paid for) by Kate...I remember Kate saying something about hoping she could do the same for the little girls someday, but it seemed very sincere..comparing it to this episode makes me sad, it is clear they have lost all perspective and it just goes to show you that having more isn't always a good thing...Carting the kids around new york like a circus side show in a tricked out bus is sickening, and I imagine Kate won't step foot in American Girl without demanding they pay her...When the lights fade (and they will) I doubt anyone will be the better for all of this excess...

laurajean said...

Wednesday is Matinee day for Broadway plays in NYC, they probably left PA early in the morning to get to NY in time to see the early show.

SkippyMom said...

Jim S -

Your kids may not be "a Gosselin or an Obama" but you are slight in your comment to include both sets of children [to compare] in one sentence.

The Gosselins chose to pimp their children -

Mr. Obama and his wife are the future President and first lady of this country and what you commented was a dig of ill proportion towards the Obama children. You would have to venture very far back to find a Presidential canidate who didn't have children.

Neither family, nor their circumstances can be compared.

timetogokon said...

She just made a ridiculous comment lately about having 8 kids in college--implying it is going to be a hardship for them. They also recently griped about how they will have to pay for weddings, etc.

*** I don't understand why the kids' weddings/braces/college tuition/baseball cleats/summer camp expenses are OTHER PEOPLE'S responsibility. I don't whine about my son needing $4000 worth of braces next year and my hubby and I certainly don't expect anybody else to cover the cost.
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I find it seriously odd that Jon and Kate need to keep reassuring their kids that they are truly wanted and that they are never going to split up. She's always saying "so that they know they are truly wanted" or "so they know we will always be together." Is there a little insecurity going on here??

*** There is obviously even worse behavior off cameras for KON to have to CONSTANTLY reassure the kids that they were wanted and they will be together forever. It's just not normal to have to remind one's child(ren) of that unless there is reason for the children to have doubt. My husband and I argue like every other couple. Do we EVER need to reassure our kids that we will be together forever ? No. My children get scolded (sometimes too harshly, sigh) like all kids. Do we EVER need to reassure them that they were wanted? No.
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I can't help but comment about Kate and her ridiculous organic-ness. She seems to think that because the lollipops are organic they are 'healthy', sugar is sugar, organic or not. It just drives me insane. She thinks she is so holier than thou because she feeds her kids organic lollipops. What a quack. She has mentioned these things in multiple episodes and it is annoying every time. Organic things can still be junk food, I wonder if she even knows what it means.

*** I don't think Kate knows what organic means - she just thinks it's health food that only wealthy people can afford. I also don't think the kids know what it means .

Also, in the "Yard Sale" epi, Mady is being interviewed and she says something about the $ from her/Cara selling drinks goes to pediatric cancer research, or something along those lines. I would be willing to bet that she doesn't even know what pediatric means - KON just made her memorize the name. God forbid KON ever teach their children anything worthwhile.

My dear MIL grows fresh veggies in her garden and when she gives me some, she always mentions they are organic - she thought that meant home-grown . I explained to her what organic actually means, so now she knows. (to give her a little slack, she is not from this country and English is her second language. My entire family -immediate and extended - is Korean. Don't even get me started on what I think of Jon ).

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to respond once instead of multiple times.

Where are the books? said...

If so many (un-informed) people think that Kate is such a "Super-Mom", then why do we never see her sitting down with the 'tups and teaching them the alphabet ? Or teaching them to write their names?

Those kids are 4 1/2 and I've never seen one of them with a pencil and paper.

Oh, I know the answer, Kate is too busy being a "Super-Mom" (NOT), so the academics fall solely on the shoulders of the preschool teachers.

Pathetic.

Allison said...

One particular things stood out to me in this episode. Did anyone notice how rude Kate was to the two men she was introduced to at the 700 Club interview??? She barely said hello, in the snottiest tone of voice, and then turned away, as if they weren't worthy of her. She sure has gotten a big ego through all this "celebrity!"

Refusetowatch said...

There is a lot of back and forth about the new, bigger, more expensive house. IMO this new house is excessive. I am sure that many large families (with two working parents) would love to have more space for their growing children, but the fact remains that Jon and Kate absolutely did not work for this beautiful home. It is hard to watch them get everything handed to them on a silver platter (for doing NOTHING), especially in these hard economic times. Thanks, TLC, for airing a show full of unthankful free-loaders this holiday season! I think I'll stick to watching the holiday classics with my little ones.

Jim S said...

The only comparison has to do with the fact that the Obama girls have been invited to the set of and/or will appear on "Hannah Montana." Celebrity, earned or incidental, brings a certain cache and while, trust me, I hesitated putting the two families in the same sentence, the gears may be shifting in Mady's (or Kate's) head that a whatever level of celebrity the family has can bring the added perks of appearing on or having your own TV show.

That's all I meant.

Anonymous said...

Three Farmers for President!

Anonymous said...

Kate: you said, "We've been through a lot."

"Been through a lot" means someone going through foreclosure or a cancer diagnosis or some other catastrophic event. And don't forget all those who wanted children and were never blessed with them.

It's NOT choosing to have six kids at one time with the help of scientific prodecures, and then becoming rich because of the resultant notoriety which you all seem to crave.

Somehow, I don't feel sorry for you and your family.

Meg said...

I am wondering if there is a link to other information regarding this incredibly insane family (and I use the term family loosely). Also, people refer to seeing pics of their house - I would be curious at taking a peek.

I have never admired someone who places their greed ahead of all other issues in life, exploits their children, and uses every privilege provided to them and then mocks the systems supporting them.

ThreeFarmers - kudos!

Tricia said...

"I have yet to see any evidence to substatiate that Kate Gosselin is worthy of the title 'super mom' above and beyond that of having given birth to 8 children."

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You would think the rest of the viewers would get this too. Super Mom doesn't even come close to what Kate is. Super Grabber, Greeder, Complainer, maybe, but Mom, I don't think so.

Roxanne said...

"Been through a lot."

I think she meant they have been through a lot of lies and can't seem to figure out what is the truth anymore. Pathetic folks indeed.

Reminds me of my sister who acts just like Kate and then dares to tell people NOT TO JUDGE her. Okay, I understand judging is God's place only BUT if they wouldn't act so "better than thou" people wouldn't judge them.

To me Jon and Kate are glorified welfare recepients. Whether they get their cash from TLC or the State (of PA) makes no difference. They didn't earn their money. Their children did.

sunflowereyes said...

I have been familiar with this blog for several weeks now and I read all the comments posted. I have to say that I agree with 99% of the comments about J&K. I started out loving the show and now cannot sit through an entire episode without getting angry. I watched the Duggars the other night and realized that I was more interested in watching Jim Bob teach the girls how to change the oil in a car than I am in watching KON go on any of their exclusive vacations. Even though I think having 17 or more children is a overkill, I respect Jim Bob and Michelle so much more. I don't have to pick apart what they say to find out what is true and what is a lie. I keep hoping that Kate Gosselin will get what is coming to her, and I pray that the children won't suffer too much in the aftermath.

b3aut1fuldr3am3r said...

Whar i find funny is that jon got a hair transplant and he is still balding so that was a waste of a trip and more examples of how kon are neglectful parents lol

Anonymous said...

If so many (un-informed) people think that Kate is such a "Super-Mom", then why do we never see her sitting down with the 'tups and teaching them the alphabet ? Or teaching them to write their names?
Those kids are 4 1/2 and I've never seen one of them with a pencil and paper.
Oh, I know the answer, Kate is too busy being a "Super-Mom" (NOT), so the academics fall solely on the shoulders of the preschool teachers.



I dont remeber which episode but Im sure kate once said ( when a helper came over ) that she doesn't have time to do projects
I agree, we dont ever see them writing- at 4 they should be able to write their names- at least

Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember when J&K took the twins to NYC for their Bday at American Girl? It was kind of sweet - they got up very early to ride the train, and it was clear when they got to the city they weren't "old pros"...I get the feeling that one wasn't a freebie, but truly planned (and gasp! paid for) by Kate...


On that episode they said they were INVITED by American girl. Kate did say (at least once) that she hoped her other girls would have the same opportunity when they were older.


Once it was for/on TV, J and K did NOT pay for it.

Chrissy said...

What struck me is that when one of the girls spilled on herself at the Fox studio, Kate said "it's just water". Do they not have water at the tv studio? Did she have to bring organic water? Why does she make everything so difficult?

southernbelle said...

I went to a bookstore over the weekend to pick up a gift. I saw a display of their book. On one of the bookcovers someone had stuck a post it note over their faces with the word "fraud" on it. I had to laugh about that.

Anonymous said...

I've always missed a few days worth of school a year due to vacation, but what the twins are doing seems excssive as it's only December. It's obvious they missed a few days to go to Orlando around their birthday; didn't they travel with their parents for a speaking engagement? I'm sure there have been several more similar ocassions already. Have they been shown at school at all this year (second grade)? It wouldn't surprise me if they're homeschooling...

To go along with that, doesn't it seem like KON is really being selective in picking the trips they air? Since at least they, if not the kids too, seem to be away at least once a week, who's watching the kids the entire time anyway? Jenny? Other babysitters? When you think about it, it must actually feel like they are filming more than 3x a week at their home. If KON are at so many speaking engagements, everyday they actually are home must be when they film.

Something else I noticed: Kate said that the SC trip was their BIG family summer vacation. What about HI?

Margie from PA said...

This show is sickening, disgusting, and exactly why I haven’t watched prime time television in years. I am not a fan of reality shows. They were all ready out of control, and to expose your children on the pretense of examining a day in the life of this family is just wrong (even if they are making “memories”). There are other ways to make a living and if you can’t afford to take care of the children then you should have thought of that BEFORE you PLANNED their births. And before you bite my head off about that whole issue, Katie Irene knew EXACTLY what she was doing. It is a fact. Kate will never be able to claim any June Cleaver award, as screwed up as she is and she has only herself to blame. I hope the shows get canceled soon for the sake of the children.

*Becky* said...

Allison said...
One particular things stood out to me in this episode. Did anyone notice how rude Kate was to the two men she was introduced to at the 700 Club interview??? She barely said hello, in the snottiest tone of voice, and then turned away, as if they weren't worthy of her. She sure has gotten a big ego through all this "celebrity!"
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I was coming in here to comment on the same thing. She was so smug and rude that it left a bad taste in my mouth.

And when the coachmen asked if they wanted to know the name of the horse, she turned around looking like she couldn't believe HE was talking.

I hate to say it, but I remember one epi when Kate was having them trace their names with a big thick marker.

When I was watching the yard sale epi, I got so sick of hearing her say, "Are you kidding me????" SHUT UP already! If you want it done right, then do yourself (like that would ever happen).

ThreeFarmers said...

Does anyone remember when J&K took the twins to NYC for their Bday at American Girl? It was kind of sweet - they got up very early to ride the train, and it was clear when they got to the city they weren't "old pros"...I get the feeling that one wasn't a freebie, but truly planned (and gasp! paid for) by Kate...I remember Kate saying something about hoping she could do the same for the little girls someday, but it seemed very sincere..comparing it to this episode makes me sad, it is clear they have lost all perspective and it just goes to show you that having more isn't always a good thing...Carting the kids around new york like a circus side show in a tricked out bus is sickening, and I imagine Kate won't step foot in American Girl without demanding they pay her...When the lights fade (and they will) I doubt anyone will be the better for all of this excess...


Even if J&K incurred any out-of-pocket expenses with the American Girl trip (which I doubt since the whole thing was one big commercial for American Girl), it would be considered a cost of doing business expense and therefore either billed back to Figure 8 or a certain tax deduction for the Gosselins.

Literally, everything we see on the show can be considered a business expense for them from their mortgage to their lawn care costs. What they aren't paying for, billing back to F8, or getting in trade (the freebies to which everyone refers), is a tax deduction for them as long as they use it on the show.

Those children are mighty valuable -- far beyond what they make per episode.

pickle said...

I think the whole point of this episode was to try and justify that Jon and Kate "have jobs and work!" I'm sure they've heard all of the comments about neither of them working (and they don't), but did you notice how many times they talked about working in this episode? And Jon says he has never worked so hard in his life and Kate marvels that other people go to NYC on vacation, but she goes there to work! How noble and how delusional they both are.

And I truly believe the only reason they have stayed in PA (in the new mega-mansion) is because it is relatively close to NYC and will be easy to get to on their many, many very important press junkets.

However, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they will also (at some point soon) buy a "vacation home" because they will need a retreat to a warmer climate. Afterall, many celebrities have more than one home and Jon and Kate definitely fancy themselves as celebrities. They are so above the "little people" now.

WENDY said...

" CincyMom said...

Please don't allow posters with curse words in their names. It is insulting to read."

I thought it was funny. What is insulting to one is comedic to another.

Cheryl said...

OMG!
Someone above said they were in Memphis,
I guess the childrens hospital they visited was St. Judes.

The last thing any of those parents or sick children needs is the kons dog and pony show.

Just me said...

As per Carla...I heard $kate$ say that she had known Carla "like forever"

Tangerine Tanya said...

I can't stand Kate. When do you see her just chill and hold her kids(not prompted by T.L.C) and enjoy them? All the pictures see takes with her cell phone,family videos and what ever plastic way she has of creating memories CANNOT compare to sitting still and holding your child close and just BE STILL. They grow up so quickly.....Take a picture of your kids Kate with your heart and soul.Now that is a precious memorie.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Oops...Memory.....

Nikki said...

I have been lurking on this site for some time and this is my first post. 3F, I love your recaps of the show, it actually saves me from having to watch them. As a mother of boys, I can not believe how Kate treats her boys and it actually makes me angry to see how she treats them. I hope Kon has enough money to pay for the therapy these boys are going to need for the issues they will.

KJN in UT said...

First off, I must confess: GUILTY! I'm one of those who indulges in this show but then I'm disgusted in myself for doing so....I can't help it! It's weird! Like the fast food thing.

Anyway, the thing that REALLY bugged me about this episode was how they both kept saying over and over and over again 'we always do' such and such when we come to NY or 'we always go' to such and such place when we go to NY. As if they go there every freaking week. They seriously said it like 15 times about stupid stuff to make themselves sound so important and celebrity-like for carting their brood to NY for business...poor kids having to sit at boring talk shows so their parents can parade them around and make money off of them! I seriously doubt they think it's 'fun'.

Oh and I bet Kate is totally medicated now. You can see it in her eyes. When she said that all these press tours 'don't bother her or stress her out any more' (and she only had to tell us that like 3 times) they zoomed in a bit on her face and she had kind of a zoned out look to her LOL! or I'm sorry, maybe that's because she's exhausted!

Allison Parker said...

Lurking is a funny word...
I checked the Gosselin's website and until now some of the links are still under construction. Jon, can't you sleep thirty minutes later so you can dedicate that thirty minutes to fixing your website? Oh, I forgot you hired someone to do that for you, you IT analyst. What's wrong, wouldn't they do it for free?

They have a new book (pictures of the twins and the tups), would they have another episode, "It's a Book, too", "It's a Book 2"?
Let's not forget Kate's recipe book... episode title should be "More Ka-ching for Kate".

timetogokon said...

I can't stand Kate. When do you see her just chill and hold her kids(not prompted by T.L.C) and enjoy them? All the pictures see takes with her cell phone,family videos and what ever plastic way she has of creating memories CANNOT compare to sitting still and holding your child close and just BE STILL. They grow up so quickly.....Take a picture of your kids Kate with your heart and soul.Now that is a precious memorie.

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There is ONE child whom Kate holds close, hugs, kisses and showers with affection.

Guesses anyone?

Anonymous said...

Hey sheeple-

Seems that you all think that 3F's recap was just plain mean- mean to Kate and mean to the kids.

Why don't you all open your eyes to what is right in front you every Monday night? Don't get angry with the posters on this site because we are commenting on WHAT WE SEE. Why don't you get angry with Kate and Jon's outrageous, selfish, greedy behavior ? Why don't you get angry that these 2 con artists force their children to support them? Why don't you get angry that Kate consistently showcases what a terrible mother she is ? Why don't you get angry that KON continue to portray themselves as exhausted parents on a budget when we all know for a fact that they don't pay for a darn thing, have a cook, housekeepers, numerous nannies and multitudes of others helping them on a daily basis? Why don't you get angry about the fact that KON put their own selfish wants before their children's needs ?

Seriously, if you are going to be angry, KON give PLENTY about which to get angry.

The people who post the recaps are just calling a spade a spade and doing a great job of it too.

momof3andloving it said...

Have we gotten to the part where we can acknowledge the KON fans are evangelicals? Considering the publisher is a Christian book joint, I think it's fair to speculate that the KON book buyers are conservative Christians opposed to abortion.

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I'm a conservative Christian who is pro-life and I LOATHE Jon and Kate Gosselin. I can't find one redeeming quality about them...you couldn't PAY ME to go to a speaking engagement of theirs and I would use a copy of their book for a campfire!

Anonymous said...

As many of you have already said, I too am tired of hearing KON say they will be together for ever (and to make matters worse, saying she wrote the book so kids know they were all wanted - I hadn't heard that before). When I was growing up in a happy family, my dad didn't shower my mom with gifts or tell her he loved her all the time, but she knew (really knew) that he loved her. And, their children knew it too; we knew every day we were loved and wanted because of how our parents treated each other, treated us, got involved in our lives, and respected us. My parents were quite a pair - best friends - and their kids knew it and felt secure because of this. I assume KON keeps saying they will be together forever to convince themselves that their lack of respect for one another really doesn't matter. Believe me, those 8 kids are watching, learning and may some day mimic this horrible behavior. In the mean time, their 8 kids are now old enough to notice the way KON talks about each other, the rolling eyes, snarky comments, irritated glances - which I'm sure creates a sense of insecurity. What a home in which to grow up!

Allison Parker said...

The episode where they have Mady and Cara take some studio shots and they took Hannah and Leah with them but left Alexis, Aaden, Collin and Joel with Nana Janet, Kate said it is not like they have the means to go back and forth to New York for the twins to pursue show business (or something to that effect), but on this episode Kate says the tups always enjoy Central Park... does that mean they have been to New York more than twice? Does that mean they have the means to go back and forth to New York now? Hmm...

MoMom said...

momof3andloving it said...
Have we gotten to the part where we can acknowledge the KON fans are evangelicals? Considering the publisher is a Christian book joint, I think it's fair to speculate that the KON book buyers are conservative Christians opposed to abortion.

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I'm a conservative Christian who is pro-life and I LOATHE Jon and Kate Gosselin. I can't find one redeeming quality about them...you couldn't PAY ME to go to a speaking engagement of theirs and I would use a copy of their book for a campfire!
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Ditto! I would like to think that most Christians that actually watch the show can see right through them.

Harriet said...

Given the lack of maturity and insight shown in the majority of the comments by Jon and Kate supporters, I think most of them are under 25, immature, and lacking experience and knowledge.

momof5 said...

Seriously WHY do they take all 8 kids to t.v. appearances with them but not to their speaking engagements. I have 5 kids ages 6 & under & it is a chore to take them all out, but I guess when you don't do anything alone it's easy.

Anonymous said...

Have we gotten to the part where we can acknowledge the KON fans are evangelicals? Considering the publisher is a Christian book joint, I think it's fair to speculate that the KON book buyers are conservative Christians opposed to abortion.

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I'm a conservative Christian who is pro-life and I LOATHE Jon and Kate Gosselin. I can't find one redeeming quality about them...you couldn't PAY ME to go to a speaking engagement of theirs and I would use a copy of their book for a campfire!

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I don't think we can pigeonhole KON supporters as Christian, non-Christian, pro-lifers, pro-choicers, etc.

I think the only accurate label for the lovers/supporters is sheeple.

timetogokon said...

Given the lack of maturity and insight shown in the majority of the comments by Jon and Kate supporters, I think most of them are under 25, immature, and lacking experience and knowledge.

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I agree, and would like to add that I also think the sheeple COVET Jon and Kate's lifestyle, even though they call the non-sheeple "jealous".

oldsouth said...

Southernbelle,you got to witness something the rest of us would have loved to see!
You really got to see a post-it note with the word "fraud" written on it,stuck to the front of their newest "book"? OMG-wish I had been in your shoes,or been at the bookstore.You didn't stick around to see how long the note was left on there for,did you? Tooo funny.

Kay said...

The Gosselin's story has been told in this new book, but does it include family members who helped them? I'm assuming their story did not really happen without the help of family members. How sad for John and Kate's children to be deprived of their grandparents and aunts and uncles. All could be well within Jon and Kate's world if they reconciled with their families and Beth.

ThreeFarmers said...

I think the only accurate label for the lovers/supporters is sheeple.

Lemmings.

momof3andlovingit said...

Just a comment regarding the favoritism of Hannah...
She feels closer to her because she got to hold her first???
What a bunch of hogwash!
Okay...I didn't have multiples, but my firstborn was in the NICU for a month...I didn't even SEE her until she was 4 days old! She was transferred to a different hospital and I had a c-section and wasn't released until then. I couldn't hold her for days after that. My second child I held immediately, my third, within a few minutes. I am no closer to one than another. I am their mother and I love them all equally and treat them all equally. That is what a good mother does.
Kate is not a good mother and this is just one of the many shining examples why!!!!

ipoopedinmyunnawears said...

My mom bought me this book for Christmas because she remembered i watched the show. She got it at the Christian book store and i don't have the heart to tell her that i would rather her not have paid money for it. I'll probably read it though. Anyone want to borrow it when i'm through? :)

SueM said...

Re: Twins missing school...GMA was filmed on Oct 16. Didn't they move around the 20th or so?? The twins were probably finished up at their old school and hadn't yet started their new school. That's how they got around the missing-school-thing.

ThreeFarmers said...

For those in the mood to bang some prose.

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Grand Rapids, MI 49530

For the electronically inclined:

Email Zondervan

To reach out and touch them:

1-800-226-1122

Their president and CEO is a woman named Moe Girkins (Maureen, I would hope.) I'd ask for her by name, I'm sure she'd love to hear form everyone.

ThreeFarmers said...

My mom bought me this book for Christmas because she remembered i watched the show. She got it at the Christian book store and i don't have the heart to tell her that i would rather her not have paid money for it. I'll probably read it though. Anyone want to borrow it when i'm through? :)

I would! I know you're joking, but I'd love to review this darn thing, but the waiting list at my library has made it difficult.

If you're serious, you can email me through my profile.

I'll send it back when I'm through. *grin*

Cindi said...

BREAKFAST IN BED
I was watching a re-run of the J/k/8
BREAKFAST IN BED and Jon served Kate breakfast in bed. All the children ran in the room and Kate moans "Help rescue me Jon" He chases ALL the tups out but alas....THE BELOVED HANNIE remained perched right next to Kate on the bed. Hannie also got the first bite of Kate's french toast. Later the gate was blocking the tups from going up stairs and their stood Hannah,Collin and Aaden.They were all crying to go upstairs.Hannah was the one closest to the gate and notice carefully....Kate grabs Collins hand and made him move and Hannah allowed to stand there. Kate walks off. Later while the tups are eating a meal Hannah got wind that KAte was going to the spa...Hannie became the drama princess. Ohhh Kate explained to her that she would be back soon etc...Then Hannie cried for daddy. Kate calls Jon @ work so that Hannie can be consoled. Ohh Lordy be but when Aaiden or Jole cried for Daddy they are told to "Stop that now" "Okay go to time out" EQUALITY....As KAte says "NO WAY"

Snarkygirl said...

re: the comment about a post-it with fraud written on it and stuck to the cover of their book...what a great idea! I think I'll go to the B&N tomorrow with a pack of post-its and visit the J&K display...

timetogokon said...

momof3andlovingit said...
Just a comment regarding the favoritism of Hannah...
She feels closer to her because she got to hold her first???
What a bunch of hogwash!
Okay...I didn't have multiples, but my firstborn was in the NICU for a month...I didn't even SEE her until she was 4 days old! She was transferred to a different hospital and I had a c-section and wasn't released until then. I couldn't hold her for days after that. My second child I held immediately, my third, within a few minutes. I am no closer to one than another. I am their mother and I love them all equally and treat them all equally. That is what a good mother does.
Kate is not a good mother and this is just one of the many shining examples why!!!!

*** I always thought that was such a lame excuse. If anything, you would think that there would be extra tenderness for the babies that weren't strong enough to leave the hospital so soon. Kate is such a piece of work.

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*** 3F, you trumped me again. I had to look up the definition of lemming ( I knew it was some sort of ratty animal) :

n. Any of various small, thickset rodents, especially of the genus Lemmus, inhabiting northern regions and known for periodic mass migrations that sometimes end in drowning.

Also, can't help but thinking Moe Girkins = more pickles

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Cindi said...
BREAKFAST IN BED
I was watching a re-run of the J/k/8
BREAKFAST IN BED and Jon served Kate breakfast in bed.

*** I remember watching the rerun and thinking it was no different than any other day for Kate. And, I did notice the obvious Princess Hannie favoritism, even back then.

Same sh*t, different day.

Gregory House said...

Thank you for the "awesome"(bwa-ha-ha) recap! Now I don't feel the need to watch this 30 minute compilation of lies, contradictions and general B.S.

RuthinVA said...

I would! I know you're joking, but I'd love to review this darn thing, but the waiting list at my library has made it difficult.

If you're serious, you can email me through my profile.

I'll send it back when I'm through. *grin*
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I sure you will receive it soon, it should't take long to read!

candycane said...

This episode was complete damage control. I just wonder what all the Kate lovers are going to do to justify her stupidity this week.

I couldn't believe how horrible Kate and Jon sounded about the book tour. There is a huge difference between being proud of yourself and being a hateful beoytch.

ohsusannah! said...

I saw a couple of women "ooohing" over the MB book today and talking about how Kate was just a "wonder". I looked at them and told them, "She sure is. Who else could cry poor and bilk people out of money under the guise of "love offerings" and buy a $1.3M home at the same time!"

They couldn't believe that she'd done that. I pointed them to this site and told them the proof was in the paperwork.

One of them said she wasn't going to support that kind of thinking. The other said she was going to buy it for her mother because "she loves that show". I shrugged and said, "Your mom will probably be very proud you supported a woman who has tried to shirk work for four years, especially when she told the state of PA that "society owes me".

The woman wanted to know what I meant and I told her. I also said if she didn't believe me to search the internet for the article.

That got her to put down the biggest roll of toilet paper since the Sears catalogue!

tistheseason said...

Let's just face it. Kate and Jon are fun suckers. They suck the life and joy out of everything they do. Jon looks and talks as if he's miserable and Kate is so fake and semi-bright when she talks it is nauseating. I just want to take that Daniel Boone 'do off her head and throw it in a fire!

nomorewirehangers said...

3F
Your recaps are a good addition to this site (although all the recappers are great)!

I wish the Gosselin's could see how horrible they come across on TV. Alas, money has blinded them!

Anonymous said...

"e: Twins missing school...GMA was filmed on Oct 16. Didn't they move around the 20th or so?? The twins were probably finished up at their old school and hadn't yet started their new school. That's how they got around the missing-school-thing."

Parents can pull their children out of school for whatever they want. They are after all their legal guardians.

I pull my kids out of school every year for 10 days when we travel to Europe.

gwop2009 said...

The next book for Jon and Kate will be:

How to become Reality TV Stars- and act like it
How to survive being fired off Reality TV and milk it for all it's worth
It's ARE life (and your money that helped us get it)

GrammyPie said...

I have been reading the blog for some time now, and thought I would ask what might seem to be a stupid question. The boys are easy to tell apart, as is Hannah. (She is darker and always glued to Kate). I do however have difficulty telling Leah and Alexis apart. Anyone else with this problem. I know one is smaller, but they look so similar.

timetogokon said...

to ohsusannah! :

KUDOS to you. I think it took a lot of b*lls (did you take Jon's?) to do what you did. And the best part is the women actually listened to what you had to say !

Just goes to show how many people are truly clueless about the KON scam. I will give those ladies a pardon on being sheeple.

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Parents can pull their children out of school for whatever they want. They are after all their legal guardians.

*** Yes, but just because they can doesn't mean they should

I pull my kids out of school every year for 10 days when we travel to Europe.

*** Good for you, maybe not so good for the kids. JMO.

RuthinVA said...

It's ARE life (and your money that helped us get it)


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I am glad someone else noticed this. It drives my sister crazy. Everytime Kate opens with that line she say "why can't she say our."

Libby said...

Way to go once again, great recap! Way more entertaining than 10 Gosselins could ever hope to be without your wit and sarcasm. I'm really getting tired of hearing over and over how they will always be together...they aren't going anywhere, yada yada yada. Vomit! I'm also tired of hearing about their "JOB" and how "normal" it is for the family to wake at 4 and ride a bus to NYC to do TV interviews about a book none of them wrote! I don't believe that Kate or Jon or the two of their pea brains wrote any of the book, NO, poor Beth who has been kicked to the curb, she wrote it and gets absolutely no mention as if she is invisible or does not exist! Beth...some day, not long from now, please tell us the whole story, the truth because we know that those two morons are unable to tell the truth!!

Gregory House said...

Ahhh... Lemmings. I am reminded of Rachael Ray followers who would pull out the same cards when those of us that didn't like her revealed the truth. "Jealous", "haters", "get a life", and "if you hate the show so much, why do you watch?" is amazingly similar.

Lemmings fits so perfectly.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Ohsusannah-That was so funny when you compared the new book to a big roll of toilet paper.RALMAO :-)

Grammie Pie- Although I think that both Alexis and Leah are both so darn cute this is how I can tell them apart. Alexis has a slight overbit and lighter hair. To me I can see that she is part Asian and Caucasion due to some lighter freatures. Leah usually has shorter hair and a smaller pug nose. These girls are soooo cute...

NancyH said...

Bravo Three Farmers...love reading your blogs! The Valium comment was too funny.

timetogokon said...

Gregory House said...
Ahhh... Lemmings. I am reminded of Rachael Ray followers who would pull out the same cards when those of us that didn't like her revealed the truth. "Jealous", "haters", "get a life", and "if you hate the show so much, why do you watch?" is amazingly similar.

Lemmings fits so perfectly.

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Oh no, please don't tell me Rachael Ray isn't really as cool as she seems ? I guess I will have to now do some research.....

Anonymous said...

Wow, this episode was sooo surreal, so surreal. Just really surreal.

Sorry after seeing Kon sit on the couch and say that word 4 times (they probably have no idea what the word means) I just had to post here. What a couple of shlubs.

Oh and Kate goes to NYC for work now. She made it sound like she is just soooo important that she "works" in NYC while her public goes there to vacation.

These two are just two of the most arrogant nuevo riche people I have ever seen on TV. They are just so full of themselves. But the sad part is that they are making complete fools of themselves in the process. It's too bad that they don't realize that the children are the real(reluctant) stars of this show, not Kon.

Was it me or did Jon have two big pimples on his forehead while on the couch? I'm surprised Kate didn't tell him to get away from her until his acne has healed so she won't get sick from looking at him.

Jodie said...

I am just re-watching the show and during the part where they are playing with the Wii, Mady just shines, especially encouraging Joel to bang on those drums!! I think a lot of her problems stem from being ignored and pushed aside. She's just the type of kid who really wants to be in the spotlight and the center of attention. Hmmm...wonder where she gets that from....

Dani not hannie said...

ACTION speaks louder then WORDS

There was some confusion on what Kate told Collin when he bonked his head on the pillar.

WORDS:

Kate- " You bumped your head on a pillar? Your okay your fine. Jon give me another kid "

ACTION:
Turns away and grabs the beloved Hannah's hand.

Linz said...

I just wanted to say that not all sheeple are "under 25 & inexperienced"-the gist of the comment-I'm 24 & have known about this sham for 2 years, at least. I've had almost three months of sobriety-wait-of Not watching this show, but frequent here to read comments & check the site counter (I've seen us grow from 1,290,000 to, what? (1,50
60,000?) anyways, it has always been my belief that Kate suffers from a complete lack of Empathy: the feeling that allows you to put yourself in someone elses shoes, & to be able to view yourself as others see you. It has encouraged me, however, that so many other people can see through the Gosselins, makes me feel like there are still decent, honest people in this world...just my opinion...

Thaise said...

GrammyPie said...

I do however have difficulty telling Leah and Alexis apart. Anyone else with this problem. I know one is smaller, but they look so similar.

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I used to have the same problem, but Alexis' hair is lighter and she has some Caucasian features that makes it easy for me to id her. Leah looks very Korean...i don't think that's very clear explanation but that's how I tell them apart.

Lizzy said...

"Given the lack of maturity and insight shown in the majority of the comments by Jon and Kate supporters, I think most of them are under 25, immature, and lacking experience and knowledge."

Hey, I resent that remark! ;-) I'm 23, my son was a surprise baby at 21, and this family disgusts me - particularly the treatment of the boys. I can't fathom how people who have everything handed to them can be so deeply ungrateful, as though they really don't understand what they have been given. My husband and I work our tails off to keep our son (and his on-the-way little sibling) happy, healthy, clothed, and in a home we are proud to own.

Sure, one child doesn't compare to eight in sheer volume of work and dedication, but it's been so long since Kon showed any signs of working for or with their children I think perhaps those of us with "lesser" families have some room to cast aspersions. These children have so many more toys, vacations, and airtime than most will ever see, but I think everyone here can agree that OUR children will grow up with a surplus of love and security - something the Gosselins will eventually find they cannot expense to Figure8.

Kristin said...

I have been reading the blog for some time now, and thought I would ask what might seem to be a stupid question. The boys are easy to tell apart, as is Hannah. (She is darker and always glued to Kate). I do however have difficulty telling Leah and Alexis apart. Anyone else with this problem. I know one is smaller, but they look so similar.

Simple. Leah is the one that sits in Kate's lap when Hannah isn't around.

I was reminded of another example of Hannah favoritism in a rerun that aired tonight. In the Movie Night episode, Leah asks to to sit with Kate on the sofa, and Kate refuses, telling her to sit on one of the chairs on the floor. Yet minutes later, Hannah is being cuddled by Kate and remains there for almost the entire movie.

SkippyMom said...

Jim S -

Thank you SO much for explaining about the Obama girls being invited to be on "HM" - the analogy makes sense now.

I had no idea that someone had invited - oh I don't know - the President Elect's children to be on a Disney show....how funny is THAT?

I honestly didn't mean to sound snarky - I just thought you were comparing the limelights the kids were put in - KON [by choice/force] - Miley Cyrus [choice] and the Obama children [Dad's actual JOB] - so I apologize if it sounded as if I was giving you a hard time. I really wasn't.

I am still shaking my head over the fact that someone thought it was a good idea to invite Sasha and Malia on "HM" - so weird :D

Thanks for the info tho'.

Dunwoody Mom said...

I pull my kids out of school every year for 10 days when we travel to Europe.

You can't schedule your trip to Europe when the kids are on break from school? Our family does. It's quite simple. Take your calendar, take the list of off days from school and well, there you go.

avidshrewwatchernolonger said...

Not that I would defend the Shrew here for much of anything, but to RuthinVA and the other poster who commented about the Shrew saying its "ARE" life - also being from PA, we do have a tendency to be lazy in our pronounciations (gets worse the farther west you go in PA and if you live in the greater Pittsburgh area, look out!) LOL! When I say "our" it too comes out as "are."

Jodie said...

The Gosselin's story has been told in this new book, but does it include family members who helped them? I'm assuming their story did not really happen without the help of family members. How sad for John and Kate's children to be deprived of their grandparents and aunts and uncles. All could be well within Jon and Kate's world if they reconciled with their families and Beth.


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The book is the story of their lives, up until the tups are 1. It does not address the TV show, their newfound celebrity or the estrangement from their family. It tells stories about their family like we are supposed to know who they are and never explains why we don't see them in their everyday lives now. It seems like all of the family, but especially Kate's mother and siters, were really supportive when she was pregnant and it's sad the kids don't get to see them now.

wramblinwreck said...

"Parents can pull their children out of school for whatever they want. They are after all their legal guardians."

The fact that parents are able to pull their kids out of school doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, and legal guardianship doesn't automatically bestow good decision making skills. The more school days the twins miss, the harder it will be for them to catch up. They're much too young to bear the burden of working the family job for their greedy parents.

"I pull my kids out of school every year for 10 days when we travel to Europe."

I certainly hope the twins don't miss 10 days of school for one trip for this show, in order to support their lazy parents.

Darcy said...

Personally, I don't think pulling young children out of school for a trip to Europe is something I would do. That being said, it is possible that that posters children are older and actually get educational value out of the trip.

Let me add this, I have a daughter who is chronically ill and misses school a lot. Our school system requires that no matter what the cause that you document via doctors notes, etc about why they are absent. The school can go through truancy officers and discipline the child and or the parent if the absences are not deemed appropriate. I can just imagine the conversation Kate would have with someone from the school system that questions her motives!
I wonder how or even if they will change their schedules next year when the tups are in kindergarten.

Tami said...

I know one is smaller, but they look so similar.

Simple. Leah is the one that sits in Kate's lap when Hannah isn't around.
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I think Alexis is the easiest to recognize of all of them. She is, after all, the only one with long, light brown hair. She looks so different from the rest of them. 2 boys look alike, Aaden is easy--even without glasses his features are totally different. Leah and Hannah are slightly similar but Hannah always has loooong hair that is a mess and Leah always has shoulder length or above hair.

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