Free Discussion December 25 to January 1

Happy New Year to all. This thread is for discussion about the Gosselins that you can't find a better spot for it.

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ScarySkierNewJersey said...

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everyone on the board. I have so much fun reading and posting with all of you and wish you and your families the best for the holiday season.

Vicki said...

To Sharla and all the Mods:
You have my gratitude and thanks
for tirelessly (though I'm certain
it is Not easy) keeping this Blog
going. It was validting for me when my gut feeling told me something just was not right with Jon and Kate Plus 8. I searched and found this site. My hope is your effort will improve the lives of the Gosselin children. Thank you so much and Happy, Blessed New Year to you all.

jettatonka said...

wow...first post (i'm just biding my time until the christmas festivities begin at my house :) )

anyway..kate gosselin. lord.

i've seen the show since the first one when the tups were just little babies and i must say that kate gosselin is certainly sporting some issues.

first of all, let me say that i'm a psych. & social work major so i find picking apart people to be particularly fascinating stuff. and kate gosselin sure gives me a lot work with!

here are my observations and thoughts:

1. i think, judging from tidbits that i've seen on various episodes (and ALOT from the footage they showed of J & K's first honeymoon and past) that kate gosselin suffers from an almost desperate need to be shown attention and love. so desperate, in fact, that when she doesn't get the love and attention that she craves, she almost goes on manic autopilot trying to receive it because she starts to feel empty inside. if you recall the first honeymoon footage, J & k were at disneyland or some such place and kate appeared extremely happy. i believe this is because jon was giving her the love and attention that she so desperately craves...but there was one part that is almost haunting...the camera is on kate (i'm assuming that jon was taking the video) and she's lying on the couth happy and laughing..and jon seems pretty okay too..and then he say's "i'm just not feeling well"..and kate laughs and says "we're going shopping tomorrow". it was so telling. the look on her face was almost mean. no care for jon's feelings; her need for attention was so great that she could only focus on herself.

2. so where did this stem from? (or at least that's how i try to see it). well, could only be one place yes? we don't know too much about kate's upbringing, but it appears, to me, that either there was some sort of abuse in kate's history or her parent's were not attentive to her needs as a child. somebody like kate, who needs that attention so badly usually means that they were so very lacking in receiving it for many years.

3. so kate has this giant hole in her that needs to be filled with good love and attention and i'm guessing that this is something that jon used to provide but does not anymore (can you blame him?). hence, her care level for jon drops to below zero and, sadly, her care level for her own children reaches lows that no mother should ever reach if she wants to properly provide love and emotional support for her children.

4. the thing with jon, though, is that i have seen jon stand around and do absolutely nothing while kate is having a meltdown with the kids. this is where things fall apart. kate needs jon to help her deal with the things that she finds hard or that make her insides panic. she needs him to be the anchor and he, instead, leaves the harbor completely. i have seen kate admit to her OCD tendencies and, outright, tell jon what she needs from him in order to make things better for her and i have YET to see him do any one of those things.

this is akin to me telling my partner that i have a weakness and how i need for her or him to help me in that weakness and, instead of doing so, he/she just walks away.

5. yes, jon DOES help alot though. and kate continues to belittle him. jon needs to stop taking this bullshit and tell her that what she say's is hurtful to him instead of sitting there zoning it out. it is clear to me that jon hates confrontation (i do too) and doesn't know how to deal with kate's verbal smack downs other than to take them in silence and passive aggressive behavior. i think that once jon stops doing that and starts asserting his power again, kate will stop her horrendous verbal assaults...she does them because a. she doesn't have a lot of power in her life and since jon takes it, she has the power to do it and b. it's her passive aggressive way of showing anger at jon for not giving her the love/attention and help that she wants.

6. i truly believe, sad as it is, that kate would have been happy with a family that consisted of her, jon, mady, cara, leah and hannah. it is painfully clear at how much attention she pays to these particular children and how little she pays to alexis, joel, collin, and aaden. i have yet to see her hug one of the boys or say "i love you" to them. i think this is the saddest thing of all. her own children..her own sons..and she can't, for whatever reason, bring herself to bond with them. but yet, in the same breath of air, she wants them to go to her..to be the one that they love the most. she doesn't understand that children who love their mama's this way do so because they have mama's that love THEM this way.

7. kate is the type that cares so much what people think of her and wants them to think so well of her and that she is the "best" at everything that she will (and has) excluded people that she KNOWS do things better than her (and will be shown on t.v doing things better than her). aunt jodi is a better nurturer/mother. period. it is obvious in every episode i have seen her in. kate knows that. hands down, she knows that. which is why we dont' see aunt jodi anymore. because kate is jealous of that which she doesn't have and, instead of dealing with it as an adult (re: getting professional help with all the issues she has which would then make her a better mother, wife and person) she simply banishes that person from her life and the life of her children. she knows the affects this will have on her children, but her own ego is more important. that ego will serve to push everybody away that loves her if she lets it...and she has already started.

8. kate, to me, is simply a little girl who doesn't know how to handle her own emotions and shouts insults at the kids on the playground because she's hurting inside. sometimes i'll catch her in an episode where she's sitting in jon's chair all wrapped up in a blanket and i genuinely feel sorry for her. she's struggling with how to just...be and has chosen to push away her lifelines instead of letting them in. unfortunately for her, she has 6 little ones who are looking to her for guidance, love, and support and, as of now, she has none to give. i suspect that she wants the same exact things as her children but, again, is not getting those needs met either.

really, a very, very sad family.

MSM said...

I just saw the episode where the kids og to pre-school. I think it was such a nice episode. No complaining or the spouses being mean to each other- granted they didn't even do the interviews together, but still...

It was funny to see Jon and Kate make fun of each other, my husband and I tease each other like the way they were in this episode. It kind of made me feel like this is the way the show should be. Happy, Kate seeming sad her babies were grown up.

Very relatable. I liked it a lot. I can't remember the last time I liked watching an episode of this show. It's been a while.

lisa.k. said...

I think all of the new episodes are damage control. They say they never read the blogs, but they do. They are trying to clean Kate's mouth up and they are trying to make it seem that J&K are changing. HA, I don't beleive it for a minute.

marypoppins said...

I just saw the episode where the kids og to pre-school.


I was disappointed when i saw this episode. I thought SCHOOL and the doctor's EXAMINATION ROOM were the two places that J and K would not have allowed the cameras.

Miss Brown Betty said...

marypoppins,
Dont you know nothing is sacred? If J/K allow cameras to film the tups taking a bath and going potty then there aren't any limits.

To Sharla and all the Mods,
I was a frequent visitor to another Blog but it was a very tacky Blog site. I am sooo pleased to have found this Blog Site. I think that it is a upscale and classy site.

Lfwh said...

To everyone here I just want to wish all of you Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Happy New Year.

I have so much to be thankful for in 2008, a wonderful husband who treats me like a princess, my Mother who is in great health (she just turned 74 yrs young) who lives with us, a brand new Jeep Liberty that we worked and saved for and wasn't give to us as a freebie (what a sense of satisfaction to know our saving and hard work earned us a new vehicle.).

For all of us that have worked for and are grateful for all the wonderful things and all the wonderful people in our lives, cheers!

K.Barrett said...

To Sharla and the mods:
Please keep this Blog going! It seems to have slowed up a bit, I hope you get more mods to keep it going and keep the word out there about the Gosselin greed and exploitation.

hedvigjo said...

Merry Christmas and a very happy 2009 to all. I just read Kate's book - all the way thru. If she is speaking the truth from her heart, she has explained a lot of things. Her attachment to Hannie,for example. She was the first tup Kate was able to hold and cuddle. She says in her book that she loves all her children differently but loves them all. The reason (that I see) that her mother-in-law is no longer around is also explained. It had to do with the make-over of her home while Kate was away for all those months. Kate admits that she acted like a brat but...she had her reasons. Read her book to find out why. Also, I believe the reason that her parents are no longer involved are because Kate, Jon and the twins lived with them for quite a while before moving over to the Ronald McDonald House-waiting for the tups to be released. WE ALL KNOW HOW THINGS GO WHEN TWO FAMILIES LIVE TOGETHER. Kate's parents were very strict and of course, Kate is a strong person. It was bound to happen. She mentions her family many times (with affection) in the book so....hopefully they will all make things right someday.
Just My Opinion.

Dunwoody Mom said...

hedvigjo, there are no valid reasons for a grownup to act like a brat after people have, out of the goodness of their hearts and wallets, expressed a kindness toward you. Kate may not have like the results, but a decent human being would have thanked them for their hard work and later on redone the rooms herself.

Wendy Bird said...

I hope that you don't mind my posting this again. I posted it under Free Discussion that went through the 24th, and since it is the holiday season, and it was the last post under that topic, I am not sure how many readers had the chance to see it.

OK, I admit it--I bought the most recent issue of STAR magazine, dated December 29th. On the STAR People pages I found this quote (sorry I don't have a link:)

"CHILD'S PLAY
The Gosselin Kids from Jon & Kate Plus 8 are putting a new spin on playing house! Mom Kate told STAR at the Dec. 3 P&G brandSAVER Live! event that while playing make-believe, her husband, Jon, asked 4-year-old son Collin which TV character he wanted to play. "He said 'Collin'. Jon and I were like 'Is this happening'" Talk about a warped reality!"


Yes, Kate! It is happening, and it is YOUR fault! Talk about clueless.

BlueBeDeviled said...

I don't think I'd read Kate's (actually Beth's) book and expect to get any rational explainations. Being an ungrateful brat is never acceptable and I don't care how she spins it the fact is that her parents stepped up and did all they could for her. So she needs to suck it up and apologize and try to repay their kindness with kindness and not snobbery and belly aching that "they don't know how to help."
Grow up, Kate!

lfwh said...

K Barrett Said "The reason (that I see) that her mother-in-law is no longer around is also explained. It had to do with the make-over of her home while Kate was away for all those months. Kate admits that she acted like a brat but...she had her reasons. Read her book to find out why."

Kate admits to acting like a brat after people worked hard and donated their time and materials so they could have a nice home? There is no excuse for that kind of behavior. Even then she had a sense of self-entitlement.

I have always said, there is no excuse for bad behavior. Just imagine how all those people felt who helped rennovate the house? Can you imagine how hurt they must have felt. Forget Kate and her "reasons". She is just a mean self centered person.

allisonw said...

what do you think of the Gosselins not having their Christmas day filmed? (i'm assuming they're not going to do that) I think it's a step in the right direction. I think the family needs alot less filming and more focus on the family.

hedvigjo said...

I really think that you guys are blowing this all out of proportion. Kate and Jon are Christians and doing what they need to do to care for their large family. The kids will be fine. The incident about the house makeover...yes, she should have handled it better and admits it...but she had just been thru he** and back and over-reacted. We all have done that. According to her book she didn't say anything...just didn't say what the producers of the makeover show wanted and expected her to say. Don't turn Kate into the devil until you've walked in her shoes. I would think that Jon's Mom would have and should have been more understanding. To give up seeing her beautiful grandkids over THAT is really immature. Maybe the kids are better off without her??? She sounds like a control freak - maybe thats why the two ladies butt heads. We all know that Kate has been battling that not-so-nice quality. Oh, by the way, she said nothing negative about her mother-in-law in her book. In fact, she said "she adores the girls." Not sure if she even met the tups?? Too sad.

lisa.k. said...

Kate has made it her job to explain things away hedvigjo. Of course she is going to make everything less than it really was. If her problem with her mother was just a minor thing, they would have been speaking again by now. I think Kate tried to drain them financially and they would not allow it, and she then turned her back on them. What kind of person cheats their kids out of their grandparents? There is no excuse for Kate's actions.

Protect8 said...

Wendy Bird - yes - this is a strange comment from Collin except that there is an episode where Kate made it pretty clear that the only television the children are allowed to watch happened to be DVD's of their show and Little People Big World. I couldn't believe it when I heard it! I guess it gives even deeper meaning to "Are life our job and are job is our life" or whatever her comment is. And I meant to misspell "our." It's kind of like a cult or brainwashing - just plain weird that Kate would think the only suitable thing for her children to watch is her.

With so many people lining up to see Kate and squealing at the site of this child abuser I have no hope for the Gosselin children.

lifeoriley said...

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all here at GWOP!
While I have not read the book, it does not surprise me that Kate "has her reasons" for not having a close relationship with her parents or Jon's mom. Of course she does. Everyone has their reasons for acting the way that they do. Human powers of rationalization are extraordinary. That does not make certain behaviors right, or even OK. You do not get a free pass to act like a jerk to loved ones because you are stressed, exhausted, hormonal, uncomfortable or whatever. Sure, friends and family will forgive you, but you need to apologize and do better in the future--let things go and compromise.
"Speaking of them with affection" in a book that is out their for your own profit is not the same as healing a relationship with family and speaking to them in person. Also, I imagine the book is all about KATE'S side of the story--her perceptions and feelings--did anyone interview her family for their side of the story for the book?
The book is probably all about Kate's perception of reality as told to Beth Carson. It's always all about Kate, after all. She is the captain of the ship--no co-captains. That, IMO, is why she cannot have a close relationship with her parents or Jon's mother. Jon is lucky if he even has the rank of first mate.

Dunwoody Mom said...

Kate and Jon are Christians and doing what they need to do to care for their large family.

hedvigjo, please tell me what you see in Kate and Jon's behavior that would lead you to believe they are Christians? Just because you call yourself one, does not make you a Christian. There is a song I used to sing in choir as a child that I remember and try to cling to even now as I am adult - "They'll Know We are Christians by our Love".

fxfanatic said...

That home makeover was horrid!!
However, she could have shown some graciousness and then fixed it behind the scenes.
This woman has felt entitled since the twins were born. I have NEVER met an infertile woman who, after having healthy twins, wants "just one more."
Selfish beyond belief!

Kim said...

I am just watching "Kates labour day" on Youtube. Geesh. I bet the hospital staff were impressed with those 8 kids touching stuff and climbing all over the bed in that room. It would not have been allowed in the hospitals I have worked in. Children are huge germ carriers.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

hedvigio,

Kate should put family first. Who cares what happened between Kate and her mom and dad. It's the children that need to have a relationship with their grandparents now. By the time the kids are 18 and want to see their grandparents, it might be to late. Then Kate will have to deal with guilt issues. If Kate and Jon are the good Christians that they claim to be, then they would put whatever happened between the adults to the side. The tups might not remember the grandparents, but I am sure that Mady and Cara do. Seeing grandchildren with their grandparents is such a precious thing. I just know that the tups and the twins would cling to grandma and grandpa for a long time.
They would be so happy. Kate needs to re-think that whole situation before it's to late.

Vicki said...

Anyone having any doubts as to
wheather or not J&K are Exploiting
their children need only to read
Aunt Jodi's Sister's Blog.
Julie's site sealed the deal for
me as I felt Jodi is family and
knew the truth having seen it first hand.

Justina said...

Kate should put family first. Who cares what happened between Kate and her mom and dad

It is not that I don't think this is a very wise statement, I just think if you were to poll all the readers of the various blogs and they were completely honest, you would find a decent percentage of families in similar situations. Or have been in a similar situation in their life.

tess said...

does anyone know if Kate gets paid when she does book signings? Just wondering, thanks.

CherylB said...

hedvigjo

Have you read this blog? We didn,t turn Kate in to the devil,
she did that on her own.

Irish-Gal said...

Funny, story, I was just browsing Wikipedia and out of curiousity, looked to see what the page about the Gosselins had to say. I typed in "Gosselin sextuplets" and was redirected to "Jon & Kate Plus 8". I guess their show really is their life.

Even funnier, I edited the page to include "controversies". I mentioned their criticism from Paul Petersen of exploitation. Odd how within five minutes it was erased.

Jordan said...

hedvigjo said...
I really think that you guys are blowing this all out of proportion. Kate and Jon are Christians and doing what they need to do to care for their large family. The kids will be fine. The incident about the house makeover...yes, she should have handled it better and admits it...but she had just been thru he** and back and over-reacted. We all have done that. According to her book she didn't say anything...just didn't say what the producers of the makeover show wanted and expected her to say. Don't turn Kate into the devil until you've walked in her shoes. I would think that Jon's Mom would have and should have been more understanding. To give up seeing her beautiful grandkids over THAT is really immature. Maybe the kids are better off without her??? She sounds like a control freak - maybe thats why the two ladies butt heads. We all know that Kate has been battling that not-so-nice quality. Oh, by the way, she said nothing negative about her mother-in-law in her book. In fact, she said "she adores the girls." Not sure if she even met the tups?? Too sad.

All this is Kate propaganda talking. We do not know the details as to why any of these familial relationships no longer exist, but let's not automatically assume that what Kate says in her book is the "truth" (or rather, "truthiness"). Kate has shown herself over and over to be a liar and a sociopath - why would the book be any different? Also, I have a question, why do you use the expression, "walk in her shoes?" That's an expression that Jon and Kate use ad nauseum whenever they want to blow off honest criticism.

Carrie Jo said...

Irish Gal, Someone is watching that Wikipedia article like a hawk! I know what you mean. One minute it's there, then the next minute it's gone. The same is true with WikiAnswers with questions about KON. KON's PR henchman are out in full force all over the internet. They are busy little bees, aren't they? KON is so evil, criticism and negative posts are everywhere. But, what are they going to do now that more mainstream media is covering KON? And what about Paul Petersen of A Minor Consideration? Will KON's evil flying PR monkeys try to bring him down too? I don't think they can and I hope they realize it.

Chrissy said...

What a laugh! If you go to the info section of the website for their January 10th appearance at the First Assembly of God church it has an asterisk next to their name and it states "*Jon and Kate do not travel with their children". They should change it to "Jon and Kate do not travel with their children...unless you pay them obscene amounts of money, put them up in first class hotels and film it for a TV show".

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I just reading the January issue of Good Housekeeping, letters to the editor. They made a comment how some people love Jon and Kate, and some people don't like Jon and Kate.

grandee4 said...

Happy New Year to everyone!
Hope 2009 brings happiness, joy and good health for everyone.
I also wish for an end to this show so the kids can heal and have a normal life.
For the parents, I pray that they wake up, cancel the show and call their parents, siblings and friends and start the year with a huge love fest with lots of hugs.

Michele said...

I'm curious to know what the kids got for Christmas (even though I'm sure it would make me sick), because you KNOW their only present wasn't just a computer like Jon said it would be. However, I really hope that viewers didn't send them gifts like last year, especially when there's sooooooooooo many people who are actually in need.

SueM said...

I think that Jon,Kate and their little PR people are lurking and commenting in full force lately. I've seen a lot of "Read 'her' book to find out why..." comments, quoting the book and defending Kate. "Walk in her shoes"... I think it's the "she went through hell" one that gets to me the most. What hell did she go through??!! She CHOSE to go through fertility treatments. They have 8 beautiful and healthy children to show for it. So she was physically uncomfortable or in pain in the process...so what! We all go through pain and problems in life. We don't whine about it or act entitled because of it. It makes me crazy!!

Anyway, I have been lurking less and less lately because of all of the Pro-Kate comments. I know, everyone is entitled to their opinion but these people seem to push theirs a little harder than the others. Their blindness bugs me.

Just my opinion!

Sydney said...

Occasionally a poster will say that we shouldn't say bad things about the family because the kids will be able to find those posts online for years to come. I would worry much more that the Gosselin kids will have other kids razzing them about their show and the DVDs made from their show for ever . How will the Gosselin kids feel when other kids tease them about using the potty outside, like Collin did, when Jon and another male person (Kevin?)were "babysitting" the Gosselin kids. It seems like there were two potty chairs on the drive way, close to the road, and one or two of the boys were sitting there, pants down, for all passers by to see.

Kids can be so terribly cruel. I'll bet Mady and Cara don't have a day go by when some kid or another brings up some embarrassing incident just to taunt them. Imagine knowing that the fights between Jon and Kate are seen by so many, and I am sure they hear about that all the time too. Poor, poor kids!

Kristen said...

I was reading some of the comments about wikipedia and wiki answers...so I went to wiki answers and typed in: "Did Jon and Kate Gosselin Move?" and a page came up saying "This question has been identified as harmful..." and wouldnt pull anything up, and it wouldnt let me ask it since it didnt exist...

How is it harmful to ask if someone moved? It wasnt as if I asked what their address was...it was a yes or no answer!

Cindi said...

I have not read "THE BOOK" and probably wont either.

But if it is true that Kate said "NO WAY" when she found out that T.L.C offered to pay Aunt Jodi for allowing camera's in her home while she watched/loved all 8 of the Gosselins children I think that perhaps that the grandparents would be "used" just like Aunt Jodi was if they were involved in the kids life..

cheryl said...

Have not read the book - will pick up next summer at a garage sale.
The move to their new house was around Nov 1, supposively 23 acres fenced in with security system.
Hopefully the kids can wave at their neighbors occasionally.
One story of the parent shism is
Kate asking her pastor father for cash rather than left over baby cribs, high chairs, clothes etc.
Perhaps the family tried to converse with them re baby issues and were told to back off. Hopefully it will mend one day.

wramblinwreck said...

"I think it is fine the Gosselins' did not have a Thanksgiving or Christmas special but they probably did not have one because they have no extended family or friends to invite."

I thought about this fact while watching the Rolloff's Christmas episode, with all of their family members. The best Kon could do for a "family" gathering was the vow renewal ceremony in Hawaii, with some local relatives they barely knew. The difference in those two episodes is glaringly obvious.

"The Gosselin series is mostly endless scripting and calculated events. Enless money grab events are filmed while two healthy parents do not work real jobs. 6 sextuplets are supporting their family."

Perfect description, and the reason I stopped watching.

Carrie Jo said...

Kristen - Even the simple, basic questions are deemed "harmful" like the yes or no one you pointed out. When it gets to this level, it very telling - KON knows they have something to hide and their PR people are being paid to do the hiding and ensure there are no leaks. But the damage is done and no PR efforts will work anymore. Look at all the laughable damage control attempts on the show over these many months. What a joke! It's just a matter of time for KON before EVERYONE knows (sheeple, too)what sleazebags they really are. Also, Kristen, in case you were really looking for an answer to the question about KON moving... They moved in October to Wernersville, PA in Berks County. Wernersville is west of Reading where they used to live before they moved to Elizabethtown. It's a $1.3 million estate on 26 acres which they bought from an OB/GYN at Reading Hospital. The estate is in a trust in their lawyer's name. There really isn't anything about KON that you can't find just by looking at available public records online. I wonder if KON's PR people think they can control public records as well?!! Tee-hee...

Julia said...

I read the book a few weeks ago and thought it was a sincere story of how their family came to be. Three of my four children spent time in the NICU, my oldest daughter was there for a little over a month. I was very young and after delivering her and dealing with having her in the hospital I was not the same person I usually am. I was stressed, worried, insanely tired, my hormones were all over the place and I was very, very emotional. I can only imagine what a woman who just carried six babies, was on bedrest for two months and was getting used to life with six babies would feel like. Add that to the fact that she had been away from home from many months and walked into a place that didnt exactly feel like home, and I dont blame her for not being cheery. Yes, these people did something so very kind for this family, but I do think you have to take her situation into account.

As for the relationship with her parents (and Jon's mother). We have no idea what happened between them. I was very, very close to my father, a total daddy's girl. He was in my life when my first three daughters were born and then things changed and sad to say I havent seen or spoken to him in a little over three years. As far as I know he doesnt even know we had another child. Is it sad? Of course, I would love my daughters to have thier grandfather in thier lives, but life isnt perfect and this is what is best for our family. Maybe things will change in the future, who knows. But no one should judge me for not having my father in my life- family isnt always best.

Im not J&Ks biggest fans. I watch the show and I dont always agree with everything, but who am I to judge? I live my life to be the best mother to my girls and wife to my husband and its not always pretty, but there is always love. We dont have to agree with everything, but we dont KNOW them, so Im not going to judge them.

beachluvin said...

Chrissy said...
What a laugh! If you go to the info section of the website for their January 10th appearance at the First Assembly of God church it has an asterisk next to their name and it states "*Jon and Kate do not travel with their children". They should change it to "Jon and Kate do not travel with their children...unless you pay them obscene amounts of money, put them up in first class hotels and film it for a TV show".

12/26/2008 2:47 PM
************************
Oh I see, they don't travel with their kids when they are "begging" only when they are being filmed as I mentioned before who wants to film Jon and Kate without children.

The statement should have read, "Jon and Kate do not travel with their children unless with cameras following".

Katie said...

Oh I see, they don't travel with their kids when they are "begging" only when they are being filmed as I mentioned before who wants to film Jon and Kate without children.
-------------------------------------
I wonder how many sheeple would watch episodes wit just Jon and Kate. Is Kate having the film crew follow her to the book signings? She acts like everything is all about her and the sheeple act like the Second Coming is in their town.

Kristen said...

Carrie Joe,

I knew that they had moved from reading on here, but I also knew that J and K had not announced it for some reason - which is why I just though I would see what kind of answer I would get on wiki...

If they keep filming (hoping they dont) then we will see the new house - so what is the point of trying to hide it?

Carrie Jo said...

Kristen, I think they are trying to hide it for right now at least because in their minds, no one knows about it until the first episode in the new Konpound is aired. That may not be for a while yet. They probably have numerous new episodes to show before they get to the ones showing them in the new Konpound. They may be trying to hide it because they want to be sure and sell as many books as possible and the sheeple may start asking questions if they knew about the $1.3 million estate. KON would not want that to affect their book sales. KON could then say due to our wonderful fans and the fact that we shared our story, we were able to buy a wonderful new home big enough for our family - or some BS like that.

Nikki said...

Kristen, I went and looked at Wiki and they aren't allowing people to ask if they moved, but I saw multiple questions of where they are moving. GWOP was even used as a source for one.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Wiki answers says that they want to move where it's warmer. Then it says that their moving to North Carolina. I'm not so sure that North Carolina is very warm. Why didn't they move to Hawaii by Jon's relatives. It's always warm there.

Exhausted said...

I got a hold of the book from an aunt who had bought it (I would never pay for it)....I'm only 40 pages into it (it's really poorly written), but there is something sad about reading their history (when they were a little more normal) only to know how they would soon end up. Hearing Kate talk about doing something with her mother or sisters reminds you that yes, this would be normal...and now she does none of it.

But even in their history, you can see the patterns of rotten, spoiled behavior developing early on. Lots of people get pregnant, but Kate, apparently, had more morning sickness than anyone else when she carried the twins. When she was trying to get pregnant again after the twins, she was resting here crying and resting there exhausted. I have two young children, and I don't get to lie down at all during any given day. I also thought it was interesting to read that Jon was home with the twins all day while Kate worked, and then conveniently she was home with them (um, when they slept?) at night while he worked a night shift. No wonder he didn't want to have more children. From his side of things, they were already at full capacity. And TLC, you can stop pretending all heck breaks loose when Kate's away. If Jon could handle twins by himself when he was only 23 or whatever he was, I think he can handle a lot.

The whole book is me, me, me. A narcissist's guide to child bearing. One quote in there has Jon telling Kate not to worry about the fertility treatments, saying something to the effect of "We will never regret having too many children." The sad thing is, I think they do regret it. If they were satisfied with what they had, they wouldn't have to twist their "multiple blessings" into every deal they could work. They would be looking at what was seated around their dining room table and not at every single trip and gadget they could squeeze out of the system. They would actually sit and read to their kids instead of pretending to read a page or two of Desperaux when the cameras were on. And they wouldn't be leaving the kids any chance they got to go on speaking engagements or non-book-tour book signings. The book just reads like a story where you know the characters are doomed.

I hope the new year brings better judgment to these two sorry parents.

Annie said...

I just did a google search on Mady Gosselin. Oh my, the terrible things that people say about her, its just not right. I guess this is result of putting her on a reality TV show, whether she wants it or not. IMO Mady's payng the celebrity price now.

Protect8 said...

Check out the great reality TV critic, Andy Denhart's column, realityblurred.com, to see his comments about Jon and Kate Plus 8. He hits the nail on the head.

Tami said...

What is with the people defending Kate who said they read the book? There is still no excuse for her behavior even if she did not like the free makeover! They should not agreed to having one then. No, I will NOT read their book to find out more. Why would I? It's just more lies. What a waste of time.

Carrie Mae said...

I honestly think that the public would like Kate alot more if she had a different attitude.

If she would just be more humble and gracious it would make a huge difference on how she was viewed.

Instead she acts as if she were so above others and expects things to be given to her.

Emma said...

Annie, that has been said before and I appreciate that you didn't repeat the things that you saw said about Mady.

Karen said...

Julia said...
"I read the book a few weeks ago and thought it was a sincere story of how their family came to be. Three of my four children spent time in the NICU, my oldest daughter was there for a little over a month. I was very young and after delivering her and dealing with having her in the hospital I was not the same person I usually am. I was stressed, worried, insanely tired, my hormones were all over the place and I was very, very emotional. I can only imagine what a woman who just carried six babies, was on bedrest for two months and was getting used to life with six babies would feel like. Add that to the fact that she had been away from home from many months and walked into a place that didnt exactly feel like home, and I dont blame her for not being cheery. Yes, these people did something so very kind for this family, but I do think you have to take her situation into account.

"As for the relationship with her parents (and Jon's mother). We have no idea what happened between them. I was very, very close to my father, a total daddy's girl. He was in my life when my first three daughters were born and then things changed and sad to say I havent seen or spoken to him in a little over three years. As far as I know he doesnt even know we had another child. Is it sad? Of course, I would love my daughters to have thier grandfather in thier lives, but life isnt perfect and this is what is best for our family. Maybe things will change in the future, who knows. But no one should judge me for not having my father in my life- family isnt always best.

"Im not J&Ks biggest fans. I watch the show and I dont always agree with everything, but who am I to judge? I live my life to be the best mother to my girls and wife to my husband and its not always pretty, but there is always love. We dont have to agree with everything, but we dont KNOW them, so Im not going to judge them."

I'm sorry, but Julia, your comment sounds like it was written by Kate's PR people. Come on now. Kate CHOSE to have sextuplets. You reap what you sow.

Janina said...

Carrie Jo said...

There really isn't anything about KON that you can't find just by looking at available public records online. I wonder if KON's PR people think they can control public records as well?!! Tee-hee...

O/T but for some reason this made me immediately think of Blanche on The Golden Girls when she had her date of birth erased from the public records!

LC said...

"Instead she acts as if she were so above others and expects things to be given to her."

I'm guessing you didn't see the Yard Sale episode or the St Jude's episode.

MsPeabody said...

Dunwoody Mom said...
Kate and Jon are Christians and doing what they need to do to care for their large family.

hedvigjo, please tell me what you see in Kate and Jon's behavior that would lead you to believe they are Christians? Just because you call yourself one, does not make you a Christian. There is a song I used to sing in choir as a child that I remember and try to cling to even now as I am adult - "They'll Know We are Christians by our Love".


Thank You! You said it so rightly. A lot of people claim to be Christian but that is only in name. A Christian will show their lives by example and live what they preach, it will flow out of them and is called the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Some people need to stop making excuses for Kate's behavior, she does not even try to act Christian on the show. I've never been to one of her speaking engagements but from what I've read, she doesn't act like one at those either. She uses scriptures when it is convenient for her.

BostonBean said...

KATE:

Fame is calling....they want their 15 minutes back!

no sheeple said...

Julia-

While your situation is indeed unfortunate, and you are right on some comments (family isn't always best, etc), KON do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Their PR team scours the internet for information to feed the damage control fire. If KON truly cared about repairing their image, they would take the serious criticisms to heart , cancel the show and get some help to repair the damage they have caused to their family - immediate and extended. Unfortunately, you see no positive changes in their behavior that is genuine or without a hidden agenda.

heidiiiii said...

You can see the writing on the wall with this show. The vow renewal was there *jumping the shark* episode.
TLC had another KON marathon (they always seem to) and I did not watch one episode.
The Roloff`s had a marathon on Christmas Day..Hubby and i watched the whole thing.

The majority of people will just get sick of it and it will disappear.
I feel badly for the children because that is all they know. One day the cameras will be there and the next..nothing. It will be good for the in the long run but I hope KON has money stashed away for therapy.

beachluvin said...

LC said...
"Instead she acts as if she were so above others and expects things to be given to her."

I'm guessing you didn't see the Yard Sale episode or the St Jude's episode.

12/27/2008 3:00 AM
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Are you kidding me? The Yard Sale was a joke, she sold things that were given to them. They rented tables and a truck and paid for signs to be made that probably added up to more than they made at the sale. Do you honestly think that KON paid for these expenses?

St. Judes - How much did the airfare and the hotel cost compared to those cheap toys they bought (which they probably did not pay for)? The money would have been better spent donated. Why in the world did they have to travel to Memphis when there are so many people in need in their own community?
Their production team "done lost their minds!!!!"

Nadia said...

"Sydney said...
Occasionally a poster will say that we shouldn't say bad things about the family because the kids will be able to find those posts online for years to come. I would worry much more that the Gosselin kids will have other kids razzing them about their show and the DVDs made from their show for ever . How will the Gosselin kids feel when other kids tease them about using the potty outside, like Collin did, when Jon and another male person (Kevin?)were "babysitting" the Gosselin kids. It seems like there were two potty chairs on the drive way, close to the road, and one or two of the boys were sitting there, pants down, for all passers by to see."


I do hate to make it seem like I am defending Jon in any way but in this show they are at Beth and Bobs estate and if you watched "Jon's 30th Birthday" you see that there driveway is very very long and the kids were no where near the road. Still in my mind there is no reason to send those kids outside to go to the bathroom like dogs. And what kind of huge mess do they think that there kids are going to make by going to the bathroom inside? Why oh why does everything have to be such a big deal!! I have three boys who are being potty trained or are very new at it, so I understand that kids miss. So you go with them to the washroom and clean it up, it takes 5 seconds. It would take longer to think of the plan to do the doggy training thing and to carry the potty's outside. It seems to me that they do whatever they can to avoid hands on care of their kids!

lisa.k. said...

It really bothers me that people would read a book that Kate was involved in (Beth wrote) and think that Kate wouldn't sugar coat everything in it. Of course she made herself look good, she is very good at that. I hardly think that Kate is the diehard Christian she wants everyone to beleive she is. The Christian act is just part of the manipulation people!

Barbara said...

heidiiiii said: "the KON marathon was on all day and we did not watch but we did watch the LPBW marathon - every one of them." Is this supposed to prove something?

"The majority will get sick of the show and it will disappear." The majority -- such as all the lines and lines of fans at the book signings, personal appearances, etc. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the fans outnumber the non-fans by a vast majority and all the rhetoric in the world will not change that fact!

inlawprobs said...

I have some very serious issues with members of my husband's family who hurt me very badly and I don't think anyone would have been surprised had I cut those family members out of my life. HOWEVER, this has nothing to do with my children and I will always put a smile on my face and treat these people kindly for my kids' sake.

theyre money-hungry said...

I saw the labor day ep too. You could tell that the one doctor was a touch ticked off. Kate says to him something like oh you can come in. And he says actaully I am here to tell you to come out. I was funny watching the Queen being put in her place for once.

theyre money-hungry said...

& does anyone know what Jon's middle name is? I think I read it was Quin but that may be inaccurate.

Ruth said...

I found another connection in sponsorship with the 'giving' episode. I was shopping yesterday at Ann Taylor, who wardrobes Kate, and saw that they have a connection to St. Jude. It is mentioned on Ann Taylor Loft's website.

amalficoast1 said...

" think that Jon,Kate and their little PR people are lurking and commenting in full force lately"

There is no question the KONS have a full force PR maching trying to prolong their 15 minutes. And most of the episodes seem to be serious damage control.

I find the Gosselins nauseating to watch and rarely spend my time on their show. Luckily we have GWOP to stay involved in the child exploitation issues. I hope the show dies in 2009, I don't talk to anyone who still enjoys the show.

LC said...

Are you kidding me? The Yard Sale was a joke, she sold things that were given to them. They rented tables and a truck and paid for signs to be made that probably added up to more than they made at the sale. Do you honestly think that KON paid for these expenses?

St. Judes - How much did the airfare and the hotel cost compared to those cheap toys they bought (which they probably did not pay for)? The money would have been better spent donated. Why in the world did they have to travel to Memphis when there are so many people in need in their own community?
Their production team "done lost their minds!!!!"

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Are YOU kidding me? All the money they got from the Yard Sale was donated to the Pediatric Cancer Reserch, whether Jon and Kate paid for any expenses has nothing to do with anything, the point is that they gave back to people, and they do not act as if they are above others.

". . .When there are so many people in need in their own community?"

The Pediatric Cancer Foundation is in Pennsylvania (Lehigh Valley, I believe). So they did actually help a foundation in PA.

Also, giving to St. Jude's is a great cause, many celebrities who live in LA help St. Jude's so why can't Jon and Kate help? What does it matter if they are from Pennsylvania or not? A good cause is a good cause.

Vicki said...

Barbara,
You well be correct that "Fans" outnumber "Non-Fans" of J&K.
However I believe the Fans are not
informed as to what is really going
on with the Gosselin children. Some people simply watch TV for
entertainment, to pass time, etc.
Perhaps the Fans have not thought
about the lives the children are
forced to live to support the lifestyle J&K want. The children are not protected by any laws I am aware of as to the amount of time they are filmed or how the income generated by this show is protected for THEIR futures.

Donna said...

"The majority will get sick of the show and it will disappear." The majority -- such as all the lines and lines of fans at the book signings, personal appearances, etc. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the fans outnumber the non-fans by a vast majority and all the rhetoric in the world will not change that fact!
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Eventually every show ends. I mean they aren't the evening news. It isn't going to last forever.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Barbara:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but NOTHING lasts forever. That includes Jon and Kate. Here today, gone tomorrow, is what will happen. More and more people are becoming aware of their con game. It's just a matter of time.

Irish-Gal said...

I think it's the "she went through hell" one that gets to me the most. What hell did she go through??!!

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I hate that line, too. Kate was having infertility problems and was blessed to get pregnant. If having not only one precious little baby, but eight, is so awful, why did she ever try to get pregnant? Not trying to say sextuplets wouldn't be more than a handful, but just wouldn't the simple fact you were pregnant in her position be amazing?

Sadie said...

". . .When there are so many people in need in their own community?"
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I think people make a big deal about helping their own community is because their own community was there for them when they needed the help.

Dishonesty sucks said...

Someone told me last night that the Gosselins own their own production company and TLC pays them to air the shows. Is that true?!

(I know TLC pays them, but I thought it was because they worked for TLC, not because they were selling their "productions" to TLC.)

The person said something about how during the credits it says Gosselin Production Company.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Amanda said...

Kate is so full of herself. Cancer could get cured and she would likely take credit due to her donation.

Diane said...

Are YOU kidding me? All the money they got from the Yard Sale was donated to the Pediatric Cancer Reserch, whether Jon and Kate paid for any expenses has nothing to do with anything, the point is that they gave back to people, and they do not act as if they are above others.

Yes, actually it DOES have something to do with it because the fact that they didn't pay for any of the expenses means that they didn't give back. They sold things that were donated to them by others and were paid for their time by TLC. When one gives back, one usually does not receive or expect anything in return. Not sure how you can say they don't act as if they are above others. Did you actually watch the yard sale episode where Kate bitched about the dirty tables, signs (meaningless in the grand scheme of the yard sale) and refused to unload anything or really do anything to help except stand there and charge people to take her picture?

As far as St. Jude's, it has been discussed ad nauseum but "they" didn't give back. K-mart gave THEM toys which they then delivered to St. Judes, along with their own books, and promotions for Desperaux. In return, they got a free trip to Memphis in a gorgeous hotel. So in that instance I'm pretty sure they actually received more value than they "gave back".

Glenda said...

I'm interested to see what the 'fans' voted the 10 most favorite episodes on Monday. I wonder if Jon and Kate had a say in which ones are shown.

beachluvin said...

Glenda said...
I'm interested to see what the 'fans' voted the 10 most favorite episodes on Monday. I wonder if Jon and Kate had a say in which ones are shown.

12/27/2008 1:38 PM
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I doubt the "fans" really had a say, either!

Paige said...

No matter which are shown we know they will be edited from before.

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Jackie said...

I went to tvguide.com to look up the marathon. I am in central time zone and it starts at noon and runs through 2:30 the next morning. The time slots that do not name the episode are from 5 o'clock until
10 o'clock.

Maggie said...

Just a reminder, we are not accepting comments from "Anonymous" posters. Pick a name, please.

Tangerine Tanya said...

LC,

I think that most of us saw the yard sale episode.

I think that it would have been a more generous idea/gift to simply "dontate" all items to a homeless shelter/woman's shelter or better yet give the proceeds to folks who are down right and out. There are plenty of people who are in great need.

Besides I dont think that for for second that J/K did the yard sale out of the goodness of their hearts.It was all scprited.

Since when is "playing nice" supossed to be scrpited?

Kate wouldnt even "Share" with her very giving sis in law let alone give to strangers. Heck she even charges kids $20.00 a pop for a dang picture of her family.


Just my obseravtion/opinion !

Virginia said...

Katie Irene hasn't gone "through hell" yet. I suspect she will be seeing hell when her time comes. I suspect she already has a reservation there.

There are some of us, soldiers and others, who have actually been through hell. There are some of us who have lost children in their cribs. That is hell on earth.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Along the lines of privacy issues.

I have seen 3-4 shots of one the the twins( I WONT mention the name) of her scratching or tugging at her clothing in the private area. That is a natural thing to do when clothing is binding etc....But I still think that it should NOT have been filmed for a variety of reasons.

Where do they draw the line?

Gloria said...

"Irish Gal, Someone is watching that Wikipedia article like a hawk! I know what you mean. One minute it's there, then the next minute it's gone. The same is true with WikiAnswers with questions about KON. KON's PR henchman are out in full force all over the internet."

There is an editor at Wiki who is also a member of another site that bashes anyone critical of Kon. He monitors and sanitizes all things Gosselin on Wiki.

SueM said...

My New Year's Resolution is to try to be more compassionate and understanding. So, here goes: Maybe Kate is a basically shy, insecure person who behaves the way she does (especially at Book Signings and in public) because she feels vulnerable and fearful? Maybe she is so afraid of being hurt that she pushes people away on purpose so they won't do it to her?

Ok, I just threw up in my mouth!

mollybloom said...

It's interesting that Jon and Kate agree to do a TV program that shows their "real life" and then have to write a book to explain why they behave so badly. They're amazing, but not in a good way.

Tigerfan said...

Virginia said...
Katie Irene hasn't gone "through hell" yet. I suspect she will be seeing hell when her time comes. I suspect she already has a reservation there.

There are some of us, soldiers and others, who have actually been through hell. There are some of us who have lost children in their cribs. That is hell on earth.

12/27/2008 3:00 PM

In one of the episodes, Kate says that she and Jon have gone through more in their 9 years of marriage that most couples dont/wont go through in a life time. I dare Kate to sit in a room full of men and women whose significant others have been killed while serving our country, leaving behind a newborn he/she has never met or children who will never see their parent again. See how their (J & K) 'amazing' story compares to that of a parent who was forced to bury their only child who was brutually murdered, a father whose arms and legs were blown off by a road side bomb, the married couple whose life as they knew it was turned upside down because they are are now the full time caregivers to an elderly parent, the family of 8 who lost everything they own due to wrath of mother nature.
Remind me again, what is it that is so 'amazing' about J & K Gosselin's story? Oh, I remember, it makes for good 'reality' tv!!!!!!!!!!!

Mary said...

theyre money-hungry said...
& does anyone know what Jon's middle name is? I think I read it was Quin but that may be inaccurate.

His middle name is Keith. Jonathan Keith Gosselin.

Sheilagh said...

LC said: Are YOU kidding me? All the money they got from the Yard Sale was donated to the Pediatric Cancer Reserch, whether Jon and Kate paid for any expenses has nothing to do with anything, the point is that they gave back to people, and they do not act as if they are above others.
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LC, THEY did not give back. Their PR machine orchestrated a giving back - KON was just the conduit.

Brenda said...

Virginia said...
Katie Irene hasn't gone "through hell" yet. I suspect she will be seeing hell when her time comes. I suspect she already has a reservation there.
There are some of us, soldiers and others, who have actually been through hell. There are some of us who have lost children in their cribs. That is hell on earth.
_______________________
Virginia, you are right on. Let's get real here. A "rough" pregnancy CANNOT be called "going through hell." To think so and actually say it publically is unmitigated hubris.

Doctor Doctor said...

I see a lot of people throwing up in their mouths on this site. Maybe they need to see a doctor. LOL

SueM said...

So J&K have gone through more in their 9 years of marriage than most of us?? Really??!! Why? Because they chose fertility treatments that rendered more than they wanted/expected?? Some people would do anything to have their "problems".

Try this Jon and Kate: After years of fertility problems, miscarriages and an ectopic pregnancy (all physically and emotionally devastating) we were finally blessed with 3 beautiful and healthy babies. Our oldest has a form of Autism. Though he is now functioning at a high level it's been a difficult road for all of us. We wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. We truly feel blessed in every way. I would never say we went through hell! To say that would imply that having our children was an awful experience we would never repeat. I would do it all again in a heartbeat!

Charlotte said...

Just wanted to share something. As to the recent post on the NY blog that was so shocking and disturbing - I emailed Paul Petersen and attached the link to the post so he could see it. It seems to me that Paul Petersen would be as horrified by this as the rest of us who have seen it and be in a position to address it publically without causing more trauma to the child in question. I hope we all are continuing to contact Paul Petersen on what goes on.

yeaisaidthat said...

lisa.k. said...
It really bothers me that people would read a book that Kate was involved in (Beth wrote) and think that Kate wouldn't sugar coat everything in it. Of course she made herself look good, she is very good at that. I hardly think that Kate is the diehard Christian she wants everyone to beleive she is. The Christian act is just part of the manipulation people!

12/27/2008 9:47 AM

In the dictionary, next to the word hyperbole there is a picture of Kate Gosselin. Kate's very existance and livlihood is dependant on the fact that there are individuals that actually believe the exaggerated delusional nonsense that spews from her mouth on any given day.

2badsosad said...

Kate and Jon are Christians and doing what they need to do to care for their large family.

What exactly are they doing to care for their large family? Just because they call themselves 'christians' does not excuse the fact that they have and continue to exploit their children for personal and monetary gain.

Neisha said...

I think you ladies just hit a nerve for me that allows me to realize one of the main reasons I get annoyed with John and Kate. I had a terrible pregnancy marred with Hyperemesis (severe morning sickness) and ended with my children being born at 26 weeks. And unlike Kate, my son didn't make it home. Thank God my daughter is healthy. Then in the last 4 years, I have lost everything to fire, become disabled, lost a child and dealt with family craziness, and no one is tooting my freaking horn so for her to act like what her and John goes through somehow makes them better than everyone else makes me very angry. Its not jealousy, it is the realization that everyone goes through something, It doesn't make what you are going through any more important than the next person.

Janine said...

Neisha - I'm really sorry for what you've been going through and the losses you have suffered. I hope 2009 is a happy, healthy, and prosperous new year for you and your family. What you shared here in your comment is exactly what Jon and Kate don't get and don't want to get. They are so immature, mean, greedy, and selfish, that they cannot relate to real suffering. It's all about them. What they term they "have been through" is just pure exaggeration, plain and simple. They have no clue that there are people out there who have really been through hell and back and still are around to tell about it and maintain a positive attitude and have faith in God. Real faith in God - not just lip service like them.

Lonnyswife said...

LC said:
The Pediatric Cancer Foundation is in Pennsylvania (Lehigh Valley, I believe). So they did actually help a foundation in PA.

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Actually LC, the PCF is based in Tampa, FLA
(www.pcfusa.org) and is not affiliated with the Pediatric Cancer Foundation in Lehigh Valley,PA.
Kate specifically mentioned the Sunshine Project which is the clinical trial division of PCF Tampa.
So in fact, they did not do anything to benefit a local charity or hospital.

Karen said...

LC said...

Are YOU kidding me? All the money they got from the Yard Sale was donated to the Pediatric Cancer Reserch, whether Jon and Kate paid for any expenses has nothing to do with anything, the point is that they gave back to people, and they do not act as if they are above others.

". . .When there are so many people in need in their own community?"

The Pediatric Cancer Foundation is in Pennsylvania (Lehigh Valley, I believe). So they did actually help a foundation in PA.

Also, giving to St. Jude's is a great cause, many celebrities who live in LA help St. Jude's so why can't Jon and Kate help? What does it matter if they are from Pennsylvania or not? A good cause is a good cause.

12/27/2008 11:52 AM

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ARe YOU kidding me?? Jon and Kate didn't donate a cent of their own money to the foundation. They merely donated things that OTHER people donated to them in the first place. That's not called giving from your heart. It's called being cheap.

GrammyPie said...

As I posted on another thread, KON call themselves Christians. Christians pray. Why do we never see any of them pray? Not even a table prayer before meals. Good grief they show them on potties, and in the bathtub, why not praying?

On another note, what is this NY blog people keep referring too? I take it, it is a not so nice blog about KON?

get the popcorn said...

It's called being cheap. Hee, I first read that as being creeps. Which, really works well too. I can't believe people can read any of the information about Jon and Kate and still defend them and whine about not judging. Yeah, guess what you're judging them too but in the positive so don't judge me. Geeze, good to know "Christians" are giving the go ahead to exploit your children for $$$ and material goods. I'm sure Jesus said that in one of his sermons right? You know it's real easy to know from the start of the show there is something fishy going on because ever other show they would contradict themselves. I don't understand how deaf and blind the "fans" can be. If it hadn't been for all the contradictions and behaviors I saw on the show I'd never would have looked closer at Jon and Kate.
I really worry about those children and I already can see they will not be OK as the fans claim. Really how blind can people be?

MomOfThree said...

There are MANY types of "hell" that people endure in life. Some people go through similar trials but not to the degree that others do. Having had the experience of delivering a quite premature baby and then watching that preemie fight for life for 5 1/2 weeks in the NICU, I can assure you and say without a doubt that our family has "been through hell". And there was much more to the situation than a sick baby. I suffered an "abruption" (a hemorrhage), and nearly bled to death; the baby needed a complete transfusion at less than a week old; I had a complicated c-section; I had two small children at home, plus a very premature baby on oxygen and an A/B (apnea/bradycardia) moniter that went off constantly; my husband had recently been laid off at work; we had just picked up and moved 500 miles back "home" to be nearer to family. There was discord among some of that family and schedules had to be juggled to keep people out of other people's company. In short, it was "hell" in more ways than one. Thank God that everything eventually got better, but just because "all's well that ends well" does not mean that the impact of what we went through has not left it's toll on us. (For a while I was treated for "post-traumatic stress disorder".) There were many times when tempers were lost to stress, frustration and exhaustion; emotions ran high and try as you might, often it's very difficult to "forgive and forget". To dismiss Kate's ordeal (or mine or anyone's in this situation) as anything less than "hellish" (yes, this IS a word in the dictionary; "dictionary.com") is just ignorant. Yes, she did seek fertility treatments after already having two children; yes, she was aware of the probability of multiples again; yes, she knew that she would not do selective reduction regardless of the number of babies she would be carrying. Yes, she (and Jon) did indeed bring all this on themselves. And, yes, I'm sure that they did go "through hell" because of it. To say that she had not "been through hell" and that she had "reaped what she had sewn" is saying that she deserved what she got because she knew what she was getting into. Our military personnel, our police force, our firefighters all know what they are signing up for, also, but they certainly don't deserve anything bad happening to them because they went in with their eyes wide-open.

I am not a fan of Jon and Kate any longer, either; no, I did not read the book. I am not defending them nor do I agree with most of their doings, but unless you're a parent whose child is or ever was in a NICU or an ICU for any reason, you can't imagine what a "hell" it is and how you may or may not react to the pressures of it all. I know from experience that it does not bring out the best in people. Perhaps because I have gone through difficult pregnancies and deliveries, I can truly sympathize with what Jon and Kate went through. I don't have to like them or agree with them to UNDERSTAND; I just had to have had like experiences. So please, think before you speak. A "rough" pregnancy/delivery may not hit close to home with you but to some of us it was a life and death situation. Many women of singletons, as well as multiples, are put on bedrest or are hospitalized due to "rough" pregnancies; not all women are so fortunate as to be textbook cases.

Neisha said...

Mom of Three-

Believe me I understand. As I stated my daughter was also in the NICU after being born early. I think most peoples problems is the entitlement as if what they have experienced is some how greater than anyone else. It isn't to minimize their issues, but because they have had these issues it doesn't mean that they somehow deserve accolades from everyone. Like for me it hurts to hear her constantly complain about the icky boys because my son isn't here. He never made it out of the NICU so for her to constantly sit around as if they are such a burden pisses me off and I didn't go into pregnancy gunning for multiples, they were just the luck of the draw for me. So when people say she is reaping what she is sowing, isn't to say that she deserves to struggle but it is to say, you went in to this knowing what the circumstances are. Like the example you used for Soldiers, Police etc. They don't go around fishing for accolades and money. They do it because they felt led to do it, It isn't a status symbol or just a paycheck. For Kate it seems like these children are a paycheck. That is what hurts. Then it hurts for her to yell how much hell she went through, when she has the physical ability to go out and play with her children but she sits on her White Plastic throne. I would love to be able to run with my daughter. It is frustrating because she has such a blessing and she chooses to either exploit or dismiss the blessing.

yeaisaidthat said...

Why do we never see any of them pray?
The J & K reality show did make one very sad and scripted attempt to convince viewers that the Gosselin family pray. It was during their lobster and crab leg meal while vacationing in NC. It was only after forks were in hand and buttery crab leg dripping from their mouths did they suddenly realize, 'oh yea this is the part in the episode where we are supposed to act like we pray'.

Somewhereinoh said...

To dismiss Kate's ordeal (or mine or anyone's in this situation) as anything less than "hellish" (yes, this IS a word in the dictionary; "dictionary.com") is just ignorant.

IMO, it is just IGNORANT for Kate to use and claim HER 'hellish' experience as one that is above and beyond any comparison, ie 'we have gone through more in our 9 years of marriage than most people go through in a life time'. That is 'just ignorant'!

wramblinwreck said...

"To say that she had not "been through hell" and that she had "reaped what she had sewn" is saying that she deserved what she got because she knew what she was getting into. Our military personnel, our police force, our firefighters all know what they are signing up for, also, but they certainly don't deserve anything bad happening to them because they went in with their eyes wide-open."

I have to say I think there is absolutely no comparison to the decisions our courageous soldiers, police, and firefighters made to do the work they do with what Kon chose to do. The former made career choices that influence all of our lives, for the better, and a "hellish experience" in the line of duty most likely will result in saving others' lives. IMO it's insulting to these brave men and women, who chose to serve their country and their communities at the risk of their lives, with Kon's use of the term, which was no doubt intended to gain maximum sympathy from their target audience.

no sheeple said...

Many of us have gone through rough times, and nobody's is more difficult than the other's.

My problem with Katie Irene (among many) is that she is CONSTANTLY whining and complaining about her rough times and using her rough times as her excuse for being the biatch she is and the reason she needs these love offerings and freebies.

I also went through infertility treatments, was very lucky and am very grateful. I do not use my experience to plead a case of pity . One thing I remember is that at 5:45 am as I am sitting in the waiting room preparing for yet another round of blood draws and ultrasounds,that waiting room was PACKED with about 100 other anxious women + partners. We were all in the same boat. Kate needs to get over herself.

Neisha- I also hope your 2009 is a happy one.

LC (or PR FIRM) - I hope your 2009 brings you clarity of mind to see what scam artists KON truly are.

MayDay said...

To Neisha
I sat here and cried when I read your posts. I am so sorry for all that you have been through, all the struggles you are experiencing now and those ahead for you. I am so sorry about your son not making it, but happy for you that your daughter did and is healthy. I am sure that she is a great source of strength for you.
My son was also born at 26 weeks, so I can understand the upsetting situation you were in. My son did make it however he is physically and mentally disabled. He is depended on my husband and I for all his needs, he can not feed himself, dress himself, or anything. Although our life changed dramatically the day he was born and it will never be the same again, he is a joy and a true blessing. It has not been easy, but it is what it is, and our family has accepted it without help or sympathies from others. We enjoy what we have. I will be thinking about you....

no sheeple said...

You well be correct that "Fans" outnumber "Non-Fans" of J&K.
However I believe the Fans are not
informed as to what is really going
on with the Gosselin children. Some people simply watch TV for
entertainment, to pass time, etc.

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Yes and no. Many of the fans are the sheeple who refuse to believe anything negative about KON . These sheeple are the crazy fans who make videos of the kids and post them on YT, send the children gifts and think any negative comments are from jealous, spiteful haters.

SueM said...

Neisha- You hit the nail on the head!! Exactly my sentiments! No, my babies were never in the NICU. But, my oldest has been hospitalized twice before the age of 2 for other reasons. I almost died twice too. First because of the ectopic and second when my oldest was 2 and my second was 6 months old. I was in the hospital for weeks at that time. My husband was frantic. How could he have raised a child with Autism without me? It was very stressful. And yes, my extended family is not without their issues. I glossed over the Autism subject but I know there are many families out there who can relate to the "hell" that is Autism. And, it doesn't go away...

My point was that though they think they've been through hell, their vision is very narcissistic. They have not been through more than anyone else. Whatever they may have been through does not entitle them to more accolades and adoration from the masses than anyone else. To put it in Christian terms: We all have our Crosses to bear. We don't sell our babies to pay for it.

It's Not All About Kate said...

I was watching America's Most Wanted last night, and at the end of the program, John Walsh briefly gave a personal statement thanking the public for their support thru the years.

As you may know, the police have officially closed the case of the murder of Adam Walsh. The murderer died in prison years ago.

What the Walsh family has gone thru is any intelligent person's definition of "hell".

What Kate Gosselin "went thru" doesn't even come close.

lisa.k. said...

I think if J&K were as christian as they try and make everone think they are, we would be seeing them pray. As someone has already stated, the fake praying at NC was staged. I bet now that someone has brought it up on this blog, they will stage all kinds of prayer situations. That one slipped passed them didn't it?

Religious Beliefs said...

It's one thing to make fun of Kate's hair and clothing, heck even her parenting style but questioning her religion and whether or not she is following all the beliefs is a bit much.

Over the Top said...

I don't think anybody has the right to dismiss Kate's experience. It was probably the hardest thing she will ever have to do and I honestly believe that it was horrible for her. Yes she did chose it but so do many others. Kate isn't a great woman but she doesn't deserve to be picked apart and ridiculed the way most of the people here are. I really appreciate the valid comments but some of them are so off the wall and just plain nit picky its all I can to not to laugh, roll my eyes, and delete this blog from my favorites.

Irish-Gal said...

This is kind of random, but I'd like to tell Kate that the reason the girls hate getting their hair done is because she doesn't know how to do it very well. All she ever seems to do are these very high pontytails that look painful. Kate, you do know that you can do easy, painless hairstyles such as braids, low pontyails, pigtails and pull-backs, don't you? There's also something neat called a headband that I know Gymbo makes a lot of. It's not that she's rough, it's just that ponytails like that hurt little heads.

justmyopinion said...

I am in awe that anyone in their right mind would stand in line for 2-3 hours just to get a book signed by Kate Gosselin.(she didn't even write the book!!!!)It makes me outraged that our soceity idolizes anyone that is on t.v.with no regard for their talent or entertainment value.It just goes to show that anyone willing to make themselves look foolish have a public.I guess it takes all kinds....

Sam said...

"Religious Beliefs said...

It's one thing to make fun of Kate's hair and clothing, heck even her parenting style but questioning her religion and whether or not she is following all the beliefs is a bit much."

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Not at all. When someone walks around claiming to be a Christian, or a Muslim, Jew or Satan worshipper for that matter, I expect them to act in a way that upholds those claims. Sitting in Church once a week doesn't make someone a Christian any more than sitting in a garage makes me a car. "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God".

Talk the talk all you want, but you have to walk the walk, too.

(although I suppose it could be argued that the bible also says you should pray in private, so I will give them a pass on that one)

Four said...

I don't think the Gosselins calling themselves Christian would be an issue at all if it weren't for those pesky little inconsistencies that seem to dog them throughout their TV seasons (yeah, I could have typed "lives" but they have no lives now, they just have seasons.) Case in point. The claim was made by Kate that they weren't "allowed" to pray by TLC, or at the least, to have those prayer times aired. Yet, anyone with half a brain would see how LPBW and the Duggars are shown and know that, well, frankly, it's merely Kate making excuses. Let's face it, their everyday lives, as filmed, include very little religiousness.

Their religion $eem$ to be trotted out when it i$ needed to rai$e fund$. Book $ale$, $peaking engagement$ and the like.

As far as Kate not deserving to be picked apart. Sorry, it's a free country and I for one can't sit by and watch folks idolize the actions of a parent who exploits her children, does NOT model good parenting skills and can't seem to behave civilly and respectfully toward a spouse. And that's just putting it mildly. Don't like the observations of the non adoring public? Let's see them close the blinds, shut off the cameras, grow a spine, a conscience and support the kids by their own honest paid labor.

wramblinwreck said...

"I don't think anybody has the right to dismiss Kate's experience. ... Yes she did chose it but so do many others."

As an author and someone who speaks publicly about her experience, Kate had better get used to receiving both positive and negative feedback about what she says. And yes, others have had similar experiences, and how many of them are milking it for every dollar they can squeeze from an unsuspecting public, and every minute they can exploit their children to repay them for that "experience."

"My point was that though they think they've been through hell, their vision is very narcissistic. They have not been through more than anyone else. Whatever they may have been through does not entitle them to more accolades and adoration from the masses than anyone else. To put it in Christian terms: We all have our Crosses to bear. We don't sell our babies to pay for it."

Very well said, SueM. Exploiting those kids to pay for her "hellish experience" is particularly offensive.

SueM said...

Over The Top: I am not dismissing anyone, including Kate, who has been through fertility issues, premature births or any of those things that are truly difficult. I am also not dismissing Kate's experiences. I think she crosses the line when she puts her experiences above others. If this is the hardest thing she'll ever have to do then I congratulate her. She made it through a tough time and now has a great life! She should be proud of herself, not whining still. Having 8 healthy kids is a Blessing. There is not one serious thing wrong with those kids (so far, knock wood). I think that's a miracle. I still don't see what's so hard about it. Many people raise 8 kids, including my own mother. Some do it alone.

As for picking Kate apart...well..whoever has held Kate Gosselin up as the Epitome of Parenting is to blame for that. I've said before, if Kate sees herself on TV and thinks her behavior is ok than shame on her And, if TLC is editing her to look bad then shame on them.

To Neisha and others: God Bless you and your family. I hope you have a great 2009!

lifeoriley said...

Four said: "As far as Kate not deserving to be picked apart. Sorry, it's a free country and I for one can't sit by and watch folks idolize the actions of a parent who exploits her children, does NOT model good parenting skills and can't seem to behave civilly and respectfully toward a spouse. And that's just putting it mildly. Don't like the observations of the non adoring public? Let's see them close the blinds, shut off the cameras, grow a spine, a conscience and support the kids by their own honest paid labor."
I totally agree with you. What the sheeple don't seem to realize is that J&K brought this on themselves-- they have to take the criticism with the accolades.
As far as Kate having been through "hell"-- I'm sure she was very worried and very uncomfortable when she was pregnant with the tups. I'm sure the recovery process was not much fun, either. However, the outcome was positive. All six survived, and apparently are healthy. I can imagine that the last couple of months of the pregnancy and the first six months of the tups lives were difficult. But it's over. In the past. Things are much different now, four and a half years later. Also, Kate should not assume that she has "been through more" than most people--how does she know that? That is insulting to people who have struggled with worse situations and do not have the same positive outcome that she has had.

Tami said...

I can truly sympathize with what Jon and Kate went through. I don't have to like them or agree with them to UNDERSTAND; I just had to have had like experiences. So please, think before you speak. A "rough" pregnancy/delivery may not hit close to home with you but to some of us it was a life and death situation. Many women of singletons, as well as multiples, are put on bedrest or are hospitalized due to "rough" pregnancies; not all women are so fortunate as to be textbook cases
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I had a preemie in the NICU, too. I don't sympathize with these people whatsoever. I hope you are not trying to lump everyone who had "rough delivery experiences" into one group and imply they all have sympathy for KON. Yuck.

yeaisaidthat said...

"It's one thing to make fun of Kate's hair and clothing, heck even her parenting style but questioning her religion and whether or not she is following all the beliefs is a bit much."

Why should it be considered 'a bit much' to question Kate's religion and 'whether or not she is following all the beliefs'? IMO, it is 'a bit much' for Kate Gosselin to represent herself as a devout christian and in turn exploit the 'word of God' as a means to justify her own end. Kate seems to have no problem talking the talk when telling her 'amazing story', but appears to be quite clumsily side stepping as she walks through 'reality'.

alana said...

Here's a classic example of how soon - and konveniently - Kate forgets:
The issue of KON "...going through more hell in 9 years than most will experience in a lifetime..."
After a particularly horrible episode, maybe it was Gumgate, when Kate screamed in one of the little boys' face, "I BETTER NOT HEAR YOU BREATHE!!!" an astute poster commented, "I could just picture his tiny face in the NICU, breathing tube in place..."
No matter what her experience has or has not been, from their 9 years of "hell" to the Christian-ness of their household, IMO Kate is a spoiled, arrogant, greedy, hypocrite. Her "show is a lie and her lie is her show." I have never seen Jon and Kate demonstrate a single axiom of devoted and faithful Christians; they are ignorant, disingenuous imposters in all areas of their lives/lies.

As for KON's constant whining about what hard luck lives they've lived, are living, and will continue to live in the future, Shakespeare had a fitting thought for these losers and their defenders:
"Me thinks thou doth protest too loud."

mm78 said...

AMEN !

I am Christian said...

I am so sick of people saying we should not judge or criticize J/K...and now especially their religion. It is so obvious that Kate uses God as an excuse to support her behavior and the choices she makes.
That is not Christian like to me. They put themselves out there, so they need to be able to take what is said about them. If they don't want to hear it then maybe they should get out of the business. They being Christian is a joke and a slap in the face to those that follow by the Christian morals everyday.

NDmom said...

Thank you, alana!!! You hit the nail on the head! I remember Kate's comment "I better not hear you breath!" I just couldn't imagine ever making such a ridiculous comment to one of my children, especially at the tender age of three or four! They are really just babies who want their mother's love! And all because of some silly gum getting on a few items of clothing and on a precious comfort item that Kate threatened to throw away!

I have to agree that Jodi was such a better mother/nurturer/care giver than Kate ever was or will be. I agree with jettatonka that that had to be incredibly difficult for Kate to handle, and that probably played a big part in Kate's bannishing Jodi from her life. In fact, the twins may well have said something to Kate on the order of, "Why can't you do projects with us like Aunt Jodi?" Or, "Why don't you get down on the floor and play with us the way Aunt Jodi does?" Aunt Jodi would watch all of the Gosselin kids as well as her own and would still manage to interact with the kids. One example is when Joel would bring her a cup with "pretend" coffee in it and she would take the cup and pretend to drink it. Joel would be so happy and would go off to get her another cup of the same. He felt good about the interaction and it was such a simple little thing. I can remember doing that sort of thing HUNDREDS of times with my kids and it didn't take much time but it was just what they wanted from me. In fact, even though I am 48 years old, I can remember doing the same thing with my mom who I loved dearly and miss incredibly. Where will those sort of memories ever be for the Gosselin kids?? They certainly don't get that from their mom and now they don't get that from their wonderful, caring, Aunt Jodi. It is sad.

oldgirl said...

This story appeared in the Charlotte Observer on Saturday. Dull stuff. I found it gross that it was in the Faith and Values section of the paper.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/479/story/436779.html

A few months ago I wrote TLC to complain about the commercialism of J&K+8. I also spoke of the use and manipulation of the children to support their family, and that they are working because they earn a salary. I included Kate's ungrateful, rude behavior as another reason to change the channel when that show came on, and stated that I usually forget to turn back later. Thus, I've learned to live without most of their other shows.

TLC's response was that documentaries portray life, and we may or may not agree with what is portrayed. A documentary? Give me a break! In a documentary, events aren't manufactured, they are observed or revealed. TLC insulted my intelligence in a grand way, and I have stopped watching the network all together. Thank you for this blog, and for telling the truth about these KON artists.

fxfanatic said...

I enjoy reading posts from supporters.
It means Jon is finally "working". It must be a full-time job to keep up with all the truthiness coming out about them.

nanval said...

my thoughts on the book (my daughter got it from the library). Kate alientated her children from their entire family. cut off the mother in law after a bad home make-over, cut off her parents after her mom gave Kate her home and her constant attention for months of pregnancy, Kate even mentions her own grandparents, whom she loves so much, yet saw them once in three years.
Last year's Christmas dinner, with the 10 of them arounf the table, was the saddest thing i could imagine.

One other thought. in the eposide when Kate is switching the summer and winter clothes, she comments that it is "every mother's dread". Hopefully when she visited St. Jude's she had a better understanding of what true mothers dread

Barb said...

Today we hiked at Stone Mountain State Park in North Carolina. On the grounds was the Hutchinson family homestead. I marveled at the tiny home that generations of Hutchinsons were raised. At one time, the 1950s, 8 children were raised in this home.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gghiker/394411676/in/set-1353272/

Amy said...

Four said...
Case in point. The claim was made by Kate that they weren't "allowed" to pray by TLC, or at the least, to have those prayer times aired. Yet, anyone with half a brain would see how LPBW and the Duggars are shown and know that, well, frankly, it's merely Kate making excuses. Let's face it, their everyday lives, as filmed, include very little religiousness.

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Four, I'm a big fan of LPBW and didn't connect the dots of LPBW praying and J/K not. I actually bought the line that TLC wouldn't permit them (J/K) to show their religious side. Thanks for pointing this out. This was simply another J/K lie.

As for the comment of being so critical of Kate (and Jon), they decided to be on TV, and reality TV at that. As a viewer I can critize anyone who knowingly puts themself on TV. For that reason I will critize the parents but never ever critize the children.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I was just watching the video of the Duggar family from the Today show with their 18th child. They are all happy and smiling. There is nothing fake or phony about them.

Jon and Kate are so fake and phony that you have to be an idiot if you don't see it.

I would much rather watch the Duggar children grow up, rather than the Gosselin children. I have never seen any of the Duggar children have an attitude like Mady does, and there are so many more of them.

All of the Duggar children are home schooled and they have music lessons. Michelle and Jim Bob just seem like much better parents than Kate and Jon.

If I had a choice to be in a family I would pick the Duggars.

konspiracytheory said...

Just gotta say...I went through 2.5 years of infertility, and eventually was fortunate enough to have three children (still hard to believe). 2/3 of my deliveries were harrowing experiences that ended with each baby in the NICU. Yes, it was awful to go through, but in the end I have three wonderful children that mean the world to me and I am so incredibly grateful. Incidentally, two of them have developmental delays (not related to the drama at their births) and one of them has other health problems - all of which is very draining and time consuming, but I would never for a minute describe our journey as "hell". As others have said, hell on earth is losing a child.

Bontracy said...

I'm new to blogging, so bear with me. I stumbled upon this site hoping to get info as to why Aunt Jodi was no more, but can only imagine why.

I used to watch the show; I had it on season pass in my TiVo, but watch it no longer. "K-tard" and "Yawn" make my skin crawl. I will not comment on certain children because they ARE children, and this would be horrible to do so; however, let me just say one or two of them have made me revisit my stance on corporal punishment. LOL :)

That being said, I am a mother of FIVE (ages 1-13), a fulltime student; I graduate in May (yay!), my husband and I have been married for 15 yrs., he works TWO jobs while I work one part-time job, and we have done all of this on our own! No "helpers" to go with us on vacay. . . just US! No one to come do my ironing, my laundry, or babysit so I can go to the grocery store by myself (Wait a minute, I have to change my pants 'cause I peed myself from laughing so hard at that last one!) No help whatsoever!! (It's fun to go shopping with my children and me!) :)

I have had "difficult" pregnancies, been put on bed-rest twice, had a miscarriage, 4 vaggie deliveries, one c-section that resulted in the near death of #4 and myself + the NICU was GREAT fun! I have managed to exclusively breastfeed 2 babies while attending college fulltime and working for the past 4 1/2 yrs. My point? First, none of my experiences which resulted in any of my babies were "hellish," and I would do each one a million times over! Second, what the heck is "K-tard" complaining about?! Look at all the "freebies" and the "help" she gets! Did I mention we live in 1,100 sq. ft. home with a 1,000 sp. ft. unfinishied basement? Back to my point, we're doing great. My babies are healthy and happy, my husband loves me and I love him. A couple yrs. ago, my husband's job relocated over 100 miles away and we couldn't afford to relocate with it, so that meant 9 wks. of unemployment. Did I depend upon the taxpayers to feed and support my family? NO! Did I "go a-beggin'?" NO! My husband and I had 4 part-time jobs between us until something fulltime came along for him and we got back on our feet. WE took care of our babies, just like always. He worked days and I worked nights as to not impose upon anyone and to take care of the children WE CHOSE TO HAVE! We depended upon our deep freezer and stockpiled downstairs pantry to feed our family. We made payment arrangements on our electric, water, mortgage, etc. and were happy to do it ourselves and didn't sit and complain. We thanked GOD everyday that people were willing to WORK WITH US because we WERE WILLING TO WORK! I'm happy to say, we STILL take care of our children OURSELVES. No "nannies" or "helpers" or daycare centers. Only preschools when the kids are age appropriate, and WE pay for it!

I am SOOO over the show! My husband and I refuse to watch it in hopes that viewership will go down and the show will be cancelled. Those poor kids are in for a rough future. Can you imagine how difficult it will be for them to assimilate into the REAL world once all this "celebrity" is over? Those poor babies! I really feel for them.

I'm sure most, if not all, people have gone through things in life that no one else would ever wish to experience. We all have our trials and tribulations which GOD has put in place to make us better people. . . NOT better salesmen of our children!

Thank you for reading!

P.S. I would LOVE to see "K-tard" take the kids grocery shopping all by her lonesome! Better yet, "Yawn" and "K-tard" should go on vacation without any help at all! Oh what fun that would be to see!

Nopmat said...

This blog used to be about saving the kids. Today it seems to be about bashing Kate,which is valid because she deserves it. However, little seems to be happening in legit avenues to help the kids.

Mary Ellen said...

Religious Beliefs said...
It's one thing to make fun of Kate's hair and clothing, heck even her parenting style but questioning her religion and whether or not she is following all the beliefs is a bit much.
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Kate is the one saying what a devout Christian she is! She is the one acting "holier than thou" about everything. But, don't you see? She's nothing more than a hypocrite because her actions blatantly negate her lip service about what a fantastic "Christian" she is. She is a liar, selfish, mean, petty, lazy, and a con artist. How are those traits that she displays week after week indicative of a "Christian?" Can you explain this?

Danette said...

alana said...
Here's a classic example of how soon - and konveniently - Kate forgets: The issue of KON "...going through more hell in 9 years than most will experience in a lifetime..."
After a particularly horrible episode, maybe it was Gumgate, when Kate screamed in one of the little boys' face, "I BETTER NOT HEAR YOU BREATHE!!!" an astute poster commented, "I could just picture his tiny face in the NICU, breathing tube in place..."
No matter what her experience has or has not been, from their 9 years of "hell" to the Christian-ness of their household, IMO Kate is a spoiled, arrogant, greedy, hypocrite. Her "show is a lie and her lie is her show." I have never seen Jon and Kate demonstrate a single axiom of devoted and faithful Christians; they are ignorant, disingenuous imposters in all areas of their lives/lies.
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Alana, Kate's comment, "I better not even hear you breathe," to one of the boys during Gumgate made me gasp in horror when it came out of her mouth. I too could visualize the breathing tube coming out of his mouth in the NICU. This is an evil woman! How can people even raise the issue of our discussing Kate's religiosity? You are right on. Their show is their lie and their lie is their show. She does NOT possess one iota of empathy, compassion, humility, generosity, intelligence, etc., etc. As KON enhances their empire (show, books, TV appearances, spokespersons for companies, etc.), the more they will be out there and there will be more opportunity for them to be exposed for what they are. And all that stuff on the internet, YouTube, etc. about the kids (due to KON's total disregard for protecting their kids)will blow up in their faces at some point. I only hope that it is not a tragedy for any of those kids.

betsy said...

TLC is finally showing "Madys Special Day" otherwise known as Gum-Gate.
This is the ep that Kate went buck-wild on poor Aunt Jodi. It will be on today @ 2:30 pm

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Kate tells Jon that he breathes to loud, and she tells one of the little boys "I better not hear you breath."

I get the feeling, that Kate is trying to suck the life, out of everyone in her life.

Petunia said...

oldgirl said...

This story appeared in the Charlotte Observer on Saturday. Dull stuff. I found it gross that it was in the Faith and Values section of the paper. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/479/story/436779.html

That's an old PR fluff piece, from the Kon's PR team. The paper must have been really hard up for something to fill their pages to have pulled that old piece of lies to run.
alana said.. My thoughts exactly. Well put. I don't understand why someone tries to defend her by telling their horror stories because she's the one claiming they've been though more hell in 9 years then most people will ever have in a life, it's not any of us saying that hogwash.
I mean really having 6 healthy children, family that supported them, no huge medical bills due to Medicaid and CHIP and a community that chipped in for the majority of the family needs including fee tuition for the twins to go to private school. Sounds like pretty good support systems and though it wasn't a situation that anyone would chase after it is hardly HELL. I'd say the sextuplet parents in Arizona who still owe a couple of hundred thousand in hospital bills or the other couple who lost all but one of their sextuplets have it much harder then Jon and Kate.
Geeze, can they ever not use hyperbole when speaking. It takes 4 hours, a hundred children to change and so forth and so on. That's one reason I can't stand reading anything about those two because if they don't out right lie they exaggerate all of their supposed hardships. Which Christian value is that?

Sydney said...

fxfanatic said...
I enjoy reading posts from supporters.
It means Jon is finally "working". It must be a full-time job to keep up with all the truthiness coming out about them.
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Is Jon working? Really working now? I just think anybody would rather be at work than be hounded by Kate all day long. We all know he really is the one doing all the "hands-on parenting." I know I would sure be longing for those good old 8 to 5 days when he left each work day.

Tangerine Tanya said...

Isn't it un-fair how Kate tells little Jolie that she better not hear him breath and yet she lets Alexis howl and howl?.....I would bet my last dollar that Kate would NEVER tell Hannie..."I better not even hear you breath"....What she should do is tell Miss Madeline to be quite and be more respectful to her elders!

Gloria said...

Sheilagh said...
LC said: Are YOU kidding me? All the money they got from the Yard Sale was donated to the Pediatric Cancer Reserch, whether Jon and Kate paid for any expenses has nothing to do with anything, the point is that they gave back to people, and they do not act as if they are above others.
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LC, THEY did not give back. Their PR machine orchestrated a giving back - KON was just the conduit.

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There would not have even been a yard sale if TLC/Figure 8 had not decided to make an episode about it. No cameras, no yard sale. Kate's only charity is Kate, unless there is some kind of PR spin/damage control going on.

beachluvin said...

Mark my words everyone, we will see KON praying on an upcoming episode due to all the "talk" of them not praying on the show.
Give it a few weeks....
shall we start taking bets on the actual air date?

PR people or KON......we know you are reading, how long will it take you to shoot them praying? Or, is KON going to demand a free trip somewhere to do so.....let's watch and see!

Twinner said...

I had an OMG moment last night. PeachtreeTV (yeah, good luck with that TBS) was showing "The Truman Show" and when the Christof character was talking about how the show is his reality it just make me think of "The Gosselin Show". People are put into their lives and taken out at random, the guilt trips, the holier than though attitudes.

Mady and Cara are certainly old enough to use a phone. I wonder if they've ever tried to call Jodi or anyone who has been taken out of their lives or if the fact that Kate wouldn't let them talk to a friend has scared them off talking on the phone.

yeaisaidthat said...

Four said...
Case in point. The claim was made by Kate that they weren't "allowed" to pray by TLC, or at the least, to have those prayer times aired. Yet, anyone with half a brain would see how LPBW and the Duggars are shown and know that, well, frankly, it's merely Kate making excuses. Let's face it, their everyday lives, as filmed, include very little religiousness.

J & K have no problem agreeing to TLC/Figure 8 Productions decision to edit their religion from the show, but allow a camera and production crew to film their daughter in full frontal nudity while standing on a changing table ?

WS said...

People often comment on how J & K have changed over the years, and even though I no longer watch the show, I agree that things have gotten much worse - which is why I no longer watch. However, even in the very beginning, I detected an undercurrent of tension in the Gosselin family.

I remember in the "Surviving Twins and Sextuplets" special when Jon was trying to help dress the tups, and Kate made what IMO was a very snotty comment about how "it looks like you're not making much progress." Biting the hand that feeds you, much?

I also remember her freakout over Alexis' diaper debacle. (Lordy Bee!) OK, it was very disgusting, and I don't think I would have been thrilled to clean it up, either. But that kind of thing happens when you're dealing w/babies - and I just thought that Kate's reaction was over-the-top, especially considering she was trained as a nurse. (Although at least she was laughing when she was bathing Alexis. But still...)

And in "Sextuplets and Twins, One Year Later" I saw what IMO was Kate's noticeable preference of Cara to Mady. When describing the twins, Kate said that Mady "could not function in the real world b/c she was always dreaming" (or something like that), and then she went on to glorify Cara for her help w/the tups and the way that she "got" her organizational system. Later in the episode, when she was cooking before her tummy tuck, she let Cara help her cook, but when Mady tried to join them, she tried to shoo her away. One could argue that she was just wanted some one-on-one time w/Cara, which would be understandable, but the next day when Mady came inside when she was packing, Kate did ask her if she wanted to help, but she specifically asked her to get Cara as well. If I were Kate, I might have taken advantage of that situation to spend some one-on-one time w/Mady.

Personally, I am most bothered by Kate's favoritism to certain children, and I got really tired of her criticizing Mady on national TV every week. There were times I'd be watching the show and want to shout at the screen "can't you think of anything nice to say about your own daughter???" And sadly, I think Mady is fully aware of the situation, and I can hardly blame her for not wanting to be her mother's maid-of-honor. Maybe Mady was thinking along the lines, "you're always pushing me aside and putting me down, but now you want me to do your bidding just for a spectacle?" I do think that Mady can be bratty, and I am worried for her future, but I just can't say that there's no excuse for her behavior. She has Kate's number.

I am also aware of the many negative comments about Mady on the internet, and I can't help but wonder why in God's name her parents don't seem to do anything about it.

In sum, I was always mildly uncomfortable about J & K from the beginning, but I watched the show b/c I liked the kids. Now, the only way that I would have even an ounce of respect for J & K is is they, on their own, decided to cancel the show b/c they thought it was harmful to their children.

PotatoSalad said...

I am not a fan of Jon and Kate mainly because I'm just over them and the show. They aren't entertaining anymore and have gotten too big for their britches, in my opinion. I am curious about some of the comments on this board. Some people appear to be "experts" (for lack of a better word) about Jon and Kate and their situation. Is it fair to make judgements about this family based on half-hour or hour weekly episodes? Some people seem to know a lot about this family. Is it interpretation, or do you really know them? I'm just curious. I know when you choose to go on tv, you open yourselves up to scrutiny, so I'm not criticizing. But isn't the point of a tv show to entertain us? I truly can't figure out what is so intriguing about the Gosselins that there are so many blogs about them and people psychologically examining them. Yes, I read a few of the blogs (they're too juicy not to); but I take it in perspective. I don't know this family.

Tara said...

Jon and Kate live about 10 minutes away from my house. I was finally able to go for a ride this weekend and find their new home. They have installed a white fence along the perimeter, they have a "Private Property" sign hanging at the front of their driveway and it looks like they are installing (or have just installed) a gate at the driveway as well. They now park their van in the garage (I guess to hide it from the public) and there was a four-door SUV in their driveway (new vehicle or was is a show day?).

It strikes me funny how if they want so much privacy why their house is so close to the road and not set back more like Beth and Bob's or just hidden in the trees, etc. Granted, it's not as close to the road/street as their previous home but it's certainly not secluded.

beachluvin said...

WS said...


I remember in the "Surviving Twins and Sextuplets" special when Jon was trying to help dress the tups, and Kate made what IMO was a very snotty comment about how "it looks like you're not making much progress." Biting the hand that feeds you, much?

I also remember her freakout over Alexis' diaper debacle. (Lordy Bee!) OK, it was very disgusting, and I don't think I would have been thrilled to clean it up, either. But that kind of thing happens when you're dealing w/babies - and I just thought that Kate's reaction was over-the-top, especially considering she was trained as a nurse. (Although at least she was laughing when she was bathing Alexis. But still...)

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Remember she said she is not the "bath giver".....
I wonder if it not for the cameras, she would have left the mess until Jon came home from work.

Auntie A said...

re:not being able to pray or show their religion on tlc.

Don't they show the family w/18 children praying and other religious practices?

no sheeple said...

Mark my words everyone, we will see KON praying on an upcoming episode due to all the "talk" of them not praying on the show.
Give it a few weeks....
shall we start taking bets on the actual air date?

PR people or KON......we know you are reading, how long will it take you to shoot them praying? Or, is KON going to demand a free trip somewhere to do so.....let's watch and see!

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TLC already tried to show how devout the G family is : the 4th of July in the OBX epi, the kids had already started to eat when Kate had to remind them to pray. It was so painfully obvious that praying before a meal was not the norm for the family. Nice try TLC, we cannot be fooled like the sheeple.

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People often comment on how J & K have changed over the years, and even though I no longer watch the show, I agree that things have gotten much worse - which is why I no longer watch. However, even in the very beginning, I detected an undercurrent of tension in the Gosselin family
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When watching the first special, I, like most , thought about their situation with complete awe and respect. Now that I know the truths, my view about that whole special has changed since it has been well documented that Kate was pretty b*tchy and greedy even back then.

Stefanie said...

I was watching my tivo episode of "Little People Big World" this morning. On the showa long time friend of the family Mike passes on, and they use this show to make a tribute to him. You see on this show Amy, Matt, and the children crying for the loss of their friend. They publically thank him and everyone else for everything they have done for them over the years.
At the same time I look at shows like Jon and Kate Plus 8 and you never see them thank anyone for anything that they have done for them over the years. In the St. Jude's episode (the last show I will ever watch) Kon and the kids go and meet a lady that folded laundry for the family for some time. However, most of the episode all you hear Kate refer to her as is "our laundry folder." She really does not appreciate anything that anyone has done for them. She doesn't have to buy people lavish gifts to thank them for their help (yeah like that would happen). A simple "thank you for everything" would suffice.

no sheeple said...

TLC is finally showing "Madys Special Day" otherwise known as Gum-Gate.
This is the ep that Kate went buck-wild on poor Aunt Jodi. It will be on today @ 2:30 pm

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Kate went buck wild on poor Collin. She was just her normal ungrateful bitchy self to Aunt Jodi.

Twinner said...

I was in the bookstore today and turned around to the magazine racks and who do I see, the Gosselins on the cover of Parents Canada magazine.
http://www.parentscanada.com/default/new_issue_winter_2008.aspx

Here is a direct link to the article
http://www.parentscanada.com/relating/articles.aspx?listingid=344

I didn't buy but did read in store. Then I went and bought a whole stack of chick lit books.

Tigerfan said...

When watching the first special, I, like most , thought about their situation with complete awe and respect. Now that I know the truths, my view about that whole special has changed since it has been well documented that Kate was pretty b*tchy and greedy even back then.

12/29/2008 8:13 AM

It doesnt require one knowing the 'truths' about J & K Gosselin to get a sense of the what and who they are ALL about. Their OBVIOUS arrogance, over inflated egos, never ending sense of entitlement, and lack of moral values speaks for itself!!

oldgirl said...

Petunia, you are right on the mark about the newspaper I refered to in my post! I am in the same boat as Bontracy when it comes to posting in blogs, and I also had the same experience of becoming disenchanted with J&K+8.

My original intent was to complain to TLC about the treatment of the children on the show, and now it has turned to real anger and concern about what will happen to them after the show is off the air, and their parents have no jobs, no family support, no friends, etc... J&K are useless. My mother's parents reared 10 children on my grandfather's textile plant salary. They didn't own a washing machine until the early 1970's. They didn't get to church often because they did not own a car, but they raised a decent Godly family whom I am proud to call my own. They are such good self-reliant people. I wonder how the KON clan will make out, and it saddens me. I can't imagine Jon paying someone to take him to a real job every day because he didn't have his own car.
Thanks for the vent, you all!

Sophia said...

I was just thinking about the Jodi/Beth situation. If you had your own show and those that you loved were offered to be paid for stuff that they were already doing, wouldn't you excitedly say yes? It would be great that they could earn some extra income (whether they needed it or not) for helping out so much. I just don't understand why Kate wouldn't want Jodi/Beth to be paid for being on the show. What kind of family/friend would say 'no, you can't get paid for watching my children and helping out on my vacations. I would rather hire strangers than pay you.'

I wonder if Jodi and Beth are friends or talk to each other. They seem like they would get along well. I'm sure they would have lots of stories to share with each other.

PR said...

3rd Rock From The Sun said...
I was just watching the video of the Duggar family from the Today show with their 18th child. They are all happy and smiling. There is nothing fake or phony about them.

Jon and Kate are so fake and phony that you have to be an idiot if you don't see it.

I would much rather watch the Duggar children grow up, rather than the Gosselin children. I have never seen any of the Duggar children have an attitude like Mady does, and there are so many more of them.

All of the Duggar children are home schooled and they have music lessons. Michelle and Jim Bob just seem like much better parents than Kate and Jon.

If I had a choice to be in a family I would pick the Duggars.

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I love the Duggars! You never hear the parents screaming or the kids screaming for that matter. When one of them acts up Michelle calmly tells them that it's not acceptable. They have a budget and stick with it. They're just a loving family. People may think they're strange because of their beliefs or the way they dress but I think there should be more people in the world like this.

UniStudent said...

So today is my day off and I'm spending it curled up on the couch and have stumbled on a KON marathon.... I can't resist and have been flicking onto a couple episodes I've never seen!
Right now I'm watching the one where they try to hire a nanny... man these people drive me nuts. Here's the worst part so far:

Kate talking to the camera about how terrible her kids are while they are standing beside her crying. Instead of talking to the crying child, she is talking to the camera about oh how terrible it is. Though she never gets up from her white throne to try and get on their level and speak to them.

Kate talking to the camera has always been something that bothers me the most. Rather than interacting with a problem, she moans abbout it to the camera. This is no way to live life and raise children.

It is just such a twisted way to raise children, and I can't imagine what it will be like for these kids once they watch the show as adults. I'm sure my parents were stressed and tired, but they never complained, especially not in front of me, and I would think differently of them if I had documente evidence that they felt that me and my sibling were a burden.

yeaisaidthat said...

Twinner said...
I was in the bookstore today and turned around to the magazine racks and who do I see, the Gosselins on the cover of Parents Canada magazine.
http://www.parentscanada.com/default/new_issue_winter_2008.aspx

Here is a direct link to the article
http://www.parentscanada.com/relating/articles.aspx?listingid=344

I didn't buy but did read in store. Then I went and bought a whole stack of chick lit books.

12/29/2008 9:49 AM

In response to the Parent Canada article; So Kate tries not to worry about her children's future? I dont even know the Gosselin children personally and I worry for their future!

nosheeple (the original one, not the one who just started posting with that name) said...

Remember she said she is not the "bath giver".....
I wonder if it not for the cameras, she would have left the mess until Jon came home from work.
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Oh you KNOW she would have. She left Joel on the laundry room floor until Jon came home. I'll bet when he worked she left many things for him to come home and deal with. I'll bet she badgered him until he had to quit his job to stay home and do the one she was supposed to have.

CrazyCatLady said...

hell \'hel\ n. A place or state of torment...like having to watch 15 hours of Jon and Kate + 8 on TLC today...Have mercy!!!

Macer322 said...

I understand all the criticism that Kate and Jon receive and agree with most of it. But, isn't it a little overboard to have an entire blog (and one that receives abundant media attention to boot) dedicated to criticizing these folks? They put their lives in the spotlight, I know. But, isn't it going to me more damaging to the children when they learn to use the internet and stumble across this site? The truth is, we don't really know Jon or Kate or their children, so when we write a 500 word diatribe on Mady's issues and her mother's response to them, it does nothing make the situation worse for Mady we may actually causing a problem where there isn't one or exacerbating a problem that might otherwise have been taken care of.

GrammyPie said...

With watching a few of the marathon episodes today, I figured out another reason, Kate cut Jodi out of her life. When Jodi was allowed to watch the children, I did notice she has a really lovely house, and looked so much nicer and warmer than KON's. Kevin must have a great job. Kate herself has said she has no decorating skills, and after looking at Jodi's home, KON's house looks very bleak and cold.

They actually showed the "gumgate" episode. Poor Collin, even Mady took up for him.

Sophie said...

In response to the Parents Canada article...

1.) "The hardest part is when people assume we are living a ‘Hollywood life’ and all the perks that come with that."

We aren't assuming anything...we see it on your show. I guess having a television show, going on free luxury vacations, getting special treatment on your numerous outings, receiving free clothes for all of your kids, etc. etc. isn't living a Hollywood type life. Well Kate, what do you consider living a Hollywood type life?

2.) "We have eight kids to raise and have to do what we have to do to support them."

Um yeah, except getting real jobs like the rest of us. Exploiting the children isn't the only option.

3.) "And to be brutally honest, I am still so thankful that we don’t have to stress about how we are going to pay our electric bill this month!"

I guess that's not a perk of living a "Hollywood type" life. Because all normal families get their electric bills paid for.

4.) "Yes, it is all true and none of it is ‘set up’ or staged, but sometimes for ‘good TV’ all of my ‘issues’ with Jon are shown in a 22-minute show and they may have happened over a much longer period of time (really! I am not making any excuses for myself!)."

Sounds like an excuse to me. Plus a lot of the issues are when they are doing the interviews together, not when they are piecing together clips for the rest of the episode.

5.) "Until you are in our house facing our issues, you have no right to judge us. Our show is only a snippet of what we face in life!"

No right to judge, unless of course, you are judging us in a positive light. What do they face in life that is so difficult? Poor Kate, her cross to bear is so much heavier than everyone else's.

6.) "I want my kids to look back on their childhood knowing that they had two parents present and involved and understand that we did everything to better their lives."

Better their lives! Ha! I could maybe buy that for the short term. But to continue to put your children on tv so that you can "provide" for them without having to get real jobs is a joke. I'm sure they would rather live in a smaller house, go on less vacations, go places without cameras following them, have friends, and have their privacy.

lisa.k. said...

In reference to the magazine article~ Kate doesn't feel guilty about anything that she recieves free. If she did she wouldn't accept as much as she does. She is over the top with the freebies.

Diane said...


Here is a direct link to the article
http://www.parentscanada.com/relating/articles.aspx?listingid=344


Gotta love this quote from Kate:
"In a large family, my presence in the house is what they need most and I am blessed to be able to be here more days than not."

Gee, Kate, is that why you are gone so often on the weekends (when the kids don't have school) to do book signings or speaking engagements?

Can't Stand the Kon said...

The Gosselin Children's $$$$$$$
sure must be paying alot to KONS
PR Firm for putting words in Kates
mouth.

my9cats said...

Dear Sheeple People,
This comment is written with sincerity. I and other bloggers have open minds and would really like to know exactly WHAT "hell" KON has been through the past 9 years and what it is like to "walk in their shoes" that we don't understand. Please educate us with SPECIFIC details and not the usual patented generic responses.

I await your reply.

JackfromNY said...

While I agree with most of the comments made on this blog about J&K, I don't understand why people are getting bent out of shape about putting a fence around their property.

Lots of people with/or without kids have fences around their yards.

They probably did it for security, so the kids don't go running off. In a yard that size, it would be hard to keep an eye on that many kids, if they're spread out all over the yard.

Also, they could be planning on getting some animals, so they would need a fence to keep the animals from running away.

All I'm saying is that it seems really childish to be criticizing something as minor as putting up a fence.

Virginia 2 said...

I am so sorry to hear that Mike from LPBW died. I've been avoiding TLC so that I don't have to see "It's a beautiful world" promos or accidentally see Katie Irene's face.

Mike, if I'm correct about the average sized person who was Matt's business partner, was a true friend not only to Matt & Amy, but also to the kids. I remember when he and the youngest son were both injured in the trevashay (sp?) accident and how Mike was the soccer coach helping the kids. Do you know how he died, what killed him?

When watching the LPBW Christmas show (taped), such a huge distinction was noted between the R's and the G's. The R's have friends of all descriptions, as do their kids, and family members who are involved in their lives. They have memories -- they don't have to manufacture memories. Their kids look like and dress like regular kids and live a wonderful life in Oregon.

Talk about challenges. This couple faced so many challenges just by virtue of their height and medical condition Matt has, and yet they've not only survived, they've prospered. You don't hear Amy issuing orders from a white plastic chair. Even on the special, it was Amy who was cooking and she was also cleaning and sweeping the driveway. It was clear she was proud of her family and jumped into life with both feet.

Kon is such a sad commentary on family life, kids and marriage. They are complainers and they take advantage of and discard people like tissue. I don't think I've disliked a woman so much (besides KC Anthony) as I do Katie Irene. She is everything that is immoral and mean-spirited (little boy on laundry room floor; Collin in furniture store, etc) about humans.

She brings out the worst in her kids and in her husband. I have no doubt her extended family is better off without her in their ilves although it would be so good for the kids to see that there are other paths down which they might travel. Kate has made it almost impossible for these children ever to succeed in life and the sad thing is that she seems to be doing that on purpose. Jon is ineffectual and needs to step up or out.

Zoey said...

I find it odd that whenever Kate mentions someone in their life, she often says "they love our children" but rarely does she ever say we LOVE so and so...
even in an older episode with Aunt Jodi, she says She loves the kids... and later says Joel really likes Aunt Jodi. why doesnt she allow her kids to LOVE anyone?

nevernoticed said...

I don't know why I never noticed this. I was watching Kate on the couch in the dentist trip episode and her bottom teeth protrude out over her upper teeth. Her two front teeth are way off center, compare it to the center of her nose and the are to her left.

whateverkate said...

"In a large family, my presence in the house is what they need most and I am blessed to be able to be here more days than not."

Obviously Kate did not see her 'presence' as a necessity when she left her 6 sick children in the care of some one else as she and her husband went galavanting across country so daddy could get his oh so important hair plugs.

bette said...

If Queen-Kate feels "so guilty" about not spending time with her kids her a quick tip that'll stop her guilt, stop flying off in all different directions for more and more publicity engagements. Your children need their mother! Stop leaving them so you can run off to get some free cosmetic surgeries. Stop leaving them so you can go to unsuspecting churches for more "love offerings."

Lanie said...

Sextuplets Turn 4 (Cupcake Gate) will be airing Jan 6 according to TLC's website... and the next new episode after the soup one is called "walk in the woods." No synopsis on that one yet, though.

Pollywog said...

Sophie said...

In response to the Parents Canada article.
thanks for responding to that horrid pack of lies and bs. Right, Kate, you'd do anything for your children ... like exploit them for money, take off on speaking church scamming trips every other w/e, take off the day after Thanksgiving to pimp for P&G in NY, do a non book tour book tour, and on and on it goes.
And guess what, Kate, we do have the right to judge you. You want to get the attention well, babe, you got to take the bad with the good, so shut it. You want people to kiss your bony butt but not everyone is as deluded as you'd like them to be. You'd like to pretend the rest of the world can't put 2 and 2 together to get 4 but wow not so hard to do.
And you're not bettering those children's lives by dragging them off all over for "vacations" and dressing them up in matchy matchy gymboree crap. You better their lives by letting have the dignity of not broadcasting their bathing, defecating, melting down and all that crap on TV.
She's such a useless delusional nitwit and married to one too. I do feel bad for those kids. Show or no show those parents just don't get it. I wish they'd enact laws making social psych services available to children on TV. If the folks on Survivor and Amazing race have psych people to assist them when they get eliminated just imagine the amount of stress those kidlets have that need relief.
Gah.

starlaintheskye said...

JackfromNY, there are a lot of childish things concerning KON. I think it would be much more production and helpful to the kids not to criticize any of the wonderful visitors on this site who only want to help them. The real issue is that KON are making a living off of their small children. That is wrong and just about everything they do is underhanded, sneaky and dishonest. The visitors of this blog recognize that and thank goodness they call KON on it, because no one else does.

GrammyPie said...

In response to Virginia 2 as to what killed Mike, the family friend on LPBW, it was a disecting aorta. The same thing that killed John Ritter. He lived long enough to make it to the hospital, but did not survive his surgery. Very sad.I believe they said he was 60.

Stefanie said...

Virginia 2 said...

I am so sorry to hear that Mike from LPBW died. I've been avoiding TLC so that I don't have to see "It's a beautiful world" promos or accidentally see Katie Irene's face.

Mike, if I'm correct about the average sized person who was Matt's business partner, was a true friend not only to Matt & Amy, but also to the kids. I remember when he and the youngest son were both injured in the trevashay (sp?) accident and how Mike was the soccer coach helping the kids. Do you know how he died, what killed him?

My understanding is that he died from a heart condition. He had just turned 60, but really sad for all the kids. Let's just say it is really hard to watch the episode, and how the whole family reacted to his death. I was crying. They had just seen him and been with him hours earlier and he did not look well. I remember Amy saying that she was able to see him at the hospital before he went into surgery, and she was glad for that. It was incredible to see what an impact he had on their family, and they really showed how much he meant to them. There was also a memorial service that the Roloff's along with Mikes' son held for him.

I totally agree Virginia. You can tell how important friends and family are to the Roloff's. They show their appreciation in every way possible, seem to be very thankful of everyone, and really seem like normal down to earth people.

Then you have Kon.....who refused to take anything used when their babies were born. This was time when neither of them were working, but it was only the best for them. They are the people who have had constant help from people, but choose not to recognize them or even have them on the show anymore because of the fear of anyone else getting paid but themselves.

I just would like to point something else out. This show has really diverted from the time of following this family around that has these wonderful children, that share their daily lives with everyone and how they handle 8 children. It has turned into a television show (not reality t.v.) for companies to use when they do not feel like paying a huge sum of money for a commercial. Instead, they can have Kon use their children as an excuse to promote resorts, certain clothing, food, Disney, and other companies. This makes both sides happy because of course Kon gets paid and gets to any type of promotional material that is handed to them by these companies (this includes hair transplants). In turn these companies get their advertisement. All get what they want and all that is at stake is 8 innocent children.

Enough Already said...

Am I the only one sick to death of Krazy Kate worrying out loud about her electric bill? I have 7 children, ages 1 year to 19, and my electric bill is the least of my concern. Actually with such a big family, electric is the one bill I know will remain consistant each month, unlike water, or the grocery bill. But that's right, they have craft services! So they can't very well openly complain about the costs of feeding 8 kids now can they?

Their electric bill may be high, but how about getting rid of the overhead lighting installed in every room and then you have nothing to complain about!

Kate Needs Counseling said...

"Gotta love this quote from Kate:
"In a large family, my presence in the house is what they need most and I am blessed to be able to be here more days than not."


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Would this be before of after she spent how many weekends in a row, holed up in a motel room with Beth pretending to write down memories of the kids for the book that Beth wrote, yet was around each day feeding babies with Kate for her to witness everything happen first hand anyway?

I am sorry but, I have seen this several times with several teenaged mothers that I work with in a counseling center. The reason why Kate is so 'stressed' is because she is so used to NOT being around her children. Someone else is always doing it for her. And when it comes time for her to have to be there she can't handle it. Much like the teenagers I see day to day who are so used to passing off their babies to their own parents or grandparents that when the relatives can't take the child for whatever reason on whatever weekend they simply can not cope.

Mary Ellen said...

Sophia, it's not so much about the money. IMO, it's that Jodi and Beth are loving, kind, nurturing, and creative people who loved those kids. Because they were shining lights in the kids lives, they had to go because in Kate's twisted psyche, they made her look bad. Kate is a terrible mother and every time Jodi and Beth showed love and caring to the kids, it shows how awful Kate is. And as we all know, it's ALWAYS ABOUT KATE! Kate had to "eliminate" them.

Karine said...

Macer322 said...
I understand all the criticism that Kate and Jon receive and agree with most of it. But, isn't it a little overboard to have an entire blog (and one that receives abundant media attention to boot) dedicated to criticizing these folks? They put their lives in the spotlight, I know. But, isn't it going to me more damaging to the children when they learn to use the internet and stumble across this site? The truth is, we don't really know Jon or Kate or their children, so when we write a 500 word diatribe on Mady's issues and her mother's response to them, it does nothing make the situation worse for Mady we may actually causing a problem where there isn't one or exacerbating a problem that might otherwise have been taken care of.
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This blog DOES NOT compare with what is out there on the internet of the Gosselin children. GWoP does Not exploit or condone the exploitation of the Gosselin kids. There are pictures of those kids on the internet showing them in various stages of undress and then of course, there is the recent NY blog which is horrific. Maybe you should do some research and then you will finally understand exactly WHOM is to blame as to making a bad situation for the kids! KON is to blame for not protecting their own kids. Sorry for the rant, but this is ridiculous!

Mrs.A said...

I would dare to say that it's an insult to compare her lifestyle to the "Hollywood" lifestyle -- at least many of those in the entertainment industry of Hollywood have actually earned their money by working -- acting, music, directing, what-have-you -- and not sitting in front of a camera exploiting their children and all but telling everyone they "deserve" all the freebies.

She's ridiculous.

Hambone said...

Virginia 2 said...

I am so sorry to hear that Mike from LPBW died. I've been avoiding TLC so that I don't have to see "It's a beautiful world" promos or accidentally see Katie Irene's face.

Mike, if I'm correct about the average sized person who was Matt's business partner, was a true friend not only to Matt & Amy, but also to the kids. I remember when he and the youngest son were both injured in the trevashay (sp?) accident and how Mike was the soccer coach helping the kids. Do you know how he died, what killed him?
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Same thing that killed John Ritter. His aorta tore.

highondegrassi said...

"Their electric bill may be high, but how about getting rid of the overhead lighting installed in every room and then you have nothing to complain about!"

They don't pay for the electric bill anyway, TLC or Figure 8 does. She's just doing her usual drama queen thing.

no sheeple said...

It doesnt require one knowing the 'truths' about J & K Gosselin to get a sense of the what and who they are ALL about. Their OBVIOUS arrogance, over inflated egos, never ending sense of entitlement, and lack of moral values speaks for itself!!

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Tigerfan, TRUST ME, I do recognize KON's horrific behavior and attitude. They truly disgust me.
I was just trying to point out that, once my suspicions were confirmed, I realized that there were signs all along, even in that first episode. For example, Kate is looking right into the camera and boasting about being home all alone with the kids , no help, nothing. We all know, of course, that she had TONS of help from day one with the twins and even more so when the tups arrived. Even in that first episode she was a master liar.

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To the other nosheeple poster: Sorry ! I didn't realize I had the same screen name. You keep yours and I will change mine going forward!

yeaisaidthat said...

In response to: "I understand all the criticism that Kate and Jon receive and agree with most of it. But, isn't it a little overboard to have an entire blog (and one that receives abundant media attention to boot) dedicated to criticizing these folks?"

The criticisms can exist, and one can even go so far as be in agreement, but it's some how going 'overboard' to express said criticisms and opinions within the confines of an internet blog site?
We do live in 21st century, the who , what, where, and when of 'gossip' has advanced well beyond the perimeters of water cooler discussion.

Kerry said...

At one point early last summer, I looked up questions about KON on wikianswers. I was motivated to do this because I knew these two were "off" and I had yet to find GWoP for my one-stop-KON shopping needs. Anyway, wikianswers gives you the option to be to put on the "watch this question" list. So, every time a new answer gets posted or a change is made, you get an email with the link to check the update. Over the last three weeks, I have found it very interesting that when I go to check my emails, I now have four or five a day from wikianswers. The answers and/or updates are straight from the KON PR machine. It is so blatant! They are your typical canned PR responses making excuses for KON. What they have not changed or added, they have actually deleted! Many answers are gone! One of the wikianswers administrators put a note on a couple of the questions, telling people to stop deleting answers - that is disrespectful. This work by their PR team must mean that KON is feeling the heat big time. They are doing everything they can to destroy the evidence. Burn KON, burn!!

Lori P said...

Just saw a commercial that next Monday's episode is when they tell the kids they are moving!

twoodward15 said...

I do not live in a cave and do know what "Jon and Kate + 8" is. I never really watched it because truthfully I don't watch that much television and can only afford to get hooked on so many shows. But flicking around I found JK+8 and my kids loved it, mostly because we have a Colin and so do they. It is Christmas break and holy cow did we get our fill of them! Fast forward to me looking them up on the internet because I truly thought that it was a staged show and what I was seeing was not real. I was sadly mistaken and I had to tell my 6 year old daughter that we are no longer watching the "Colin Show".

I guess my point in being here is can anyone tell me if those kids or Jon and Kate have ANYONE in their lives that can speak honestly to them and tell them from the heart how they are being portrayed? Forget that we see the edited version of their lives, we only see the bad, the funny, etc. If they can fill up an entire day of me cringing and wanting to barf because of their passive/agressive/obsessive neatness/how things look vs. how things are/lists/checklists/lineups/bibs/sippy cups/.......then can't someone step in and say "take 1 year off, let them be kids and if you STILL NEED THE MONEY (?) then resume it after a year. Is that so much to ask?? Is there NO ONE in their lives that can say this?

I am astounded and amazed that this is going on in this day and age. And I've only scratched the surface because I just started watching it today. Please tell me it gets better????????

Gessica said...

I want to start off by saying that I've posted here a few times before. I agree with everything that has been and is being said. About 3 months ago, I decided to STOP watching the show. I couldn't stand Kate anymore or the direction in which the show was going. It was hard at first but I quickly got over it.
I can see by some of the comments made that others are just as annoyed and frustrated with the show, especially the KON's so I'd like to offer some advice: TURN IT OFF! I understand the need to want to know what's happening in the kids lives but we all have to realize that WE are the reason this show is still on the air. Because of those who can't "let go", we have made this show the most popular and most watched for TLC. Because of US, more shows like J&K +8 have suddenly appeared. We aren't helping the matter only hurting it further. If you want things to change, you have to change. TLC won't pull this show as long as it keeps rating so high, no matter how many letter we write to them. I just hope you think about what I've said and really take it to heart. The only way to help the kids is to get the show to stop airing. The only way the show will stop airing is if it loses ratings. The only way it'll lose ratings is if WE turn it OFF!

Thanks and Happy New Year to everyone :)

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