Free Discussion 12/11 to 12/18

Please use this for discussion about the Gosselins that doesn't fit elsewhere or this week's questions and answers.

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Kenzie said...

I Have a question that I'm curious about and hoping that someone might be able to answer.
In regards to all the free clothing that this family gets, I am just wondering how they go about approaching the companys to give it to them. I'm guessing Gap was on board way back during the second hour special, because all 6 of the tups are wearing Gap hoodies. But I mean does Kate approach say, Lucky Brand Jeans and ask for clothes?
It just seems so bizzare to me that Kate goes on and on about cupon clipping and buying onsale, etc....this woman hasn't had to buy clothing for her 8 kids in what, 3 plus years now? Give me a freakin break.

Tess said...

For the first time, I caught parts of the hair plug episode that ran last night. I had read all of the comments before about how Kevin and Jodi took care of all of the kids and alot of them were sick. I saw more love from Jodi in that one show than I've ever seen from Kate. I'm sure those kids miss her! And I'm sure they miss Beth and anyone else who used to show them love. Just as Kate said no one makes money off them but her and Jon, she probably feels that she doesn't want anyone upstaging her in any way. So, if she can't match someone in the love and affection department, then those kids must have to do without.

I'm not perfect and sometimes I get busy with everything and don't love on my kids enough. I will say that when they truly need me, I am there for them. Especially when they are sick, I have to be there to care for them (even if it means sleeping in their room). Also, I love that my kids have lots of people in their life that truly love them - especially my mom. While I don't always get along with her, I feel blessed that she shows the purest love and affection for my kids. I could never deny them that!

One other thing I noticed was how Kate seemed so grossed out by the hair plug procedure. Yes, it was gross but the nurses I know deal with that kind of stuff all the time. I don't know how she ever lasted as long as she did as a nurse unless she approached it like she does motherhood, delegate to someone else.

Kittie said...

Kenzie...
We are not 100% sure of how much free clothes they actually get. The companies will usually approach them for the exchange of showing their clothes on TV. Anything they get for free will be shown up close or talked about. Like the Juicy Juice or any of the trips they go on.

Also I found another article about Kate.

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/12/10/parentdishing-with-kate-gosselin/?icid=200100397x1215126729x1200958860

trinityella said...

Is it only me, or does anyone else think J/K is acting this obnoxious on purpose?

It seems to me that in the past few episodes Kate's narcissistic behavior, and the way they are showing all the "bad" is just too obvious, like they are doing this on purpose. Its so in our face and it's being talked about on all these blogs. Do you think they are doing this to get more attention, negative or not? I mean, when Kate said she is more like Cara and Jon is more like Maddy, I mean COME ON! Not only have we seen with our own eyes, but she even said in past episodes that she is more like Maddy and Jon is more like Cara. That was just the biggest lie and so in our face it just seems too obvious that they are trying to stir crap up! That was it for me! When those words came out of her mouth, I was like, oh yeah, they are trying to piss all the haters off!LOL! Just look at the past few new episodes, Kate seems to be acting EXTRA bitchy, complany, negative, on purpose. And the looks she gives to the camera, like "ha ha". It just seems waaaay to obvious to me. IMO What do you all think??

Tiff =)

Mary2 said...

Tess, I caught some of the hair plug episode too and I also noticed how she couldn't even take out the staples without freaking out. I'm not a nurse, but my husband had lazy eye surgery earlier this year at the age of 28 (it's not a fun surgery to have) and I had to take care of his eye at home after the surgery. It was disgusting, but not once did I let my feelings show to my husband. That would have upset him. I would have hated to have Kate as my nurse, and I would have definitely hated to have her take out my c-section staples! lol

Josh+ said...

I was wondering, if Kate is so gung-ho on the organic way of eating...why don't they have their own garden in the backyard? Not only would they be able to really control how their fruits and vegetables are grown, but it would be a great learning experience for the kids. I mean we're all about the 'experiences' in this family, right? Ha Ha. Yes, I know they are in PA where it gets COLD and snows, but at least through the spring, summer and fall the garden would work. Just sayin...

Snarkygirl said...

Kittie,
Checked out the article and all I found were pictures and a video. Was there a write-up beyond the comments? Just curious.

Trinabee said...

Regardless about how I feel about the Gosselins, I don't wish divorce or anything bad for them.

Harriet said...

Yes, they chose each other and I tend to think they deserve each other. :)

Jennifer said...

OMG, if the Gosselins divorced...could you imagine having Kate as your boyfriend or husband's ex, if Jon were to find someone new? Now that would make a good reality show.

I don't know how they go about getting the companies to give free clothes, but I have read (and I think it was on this blog) that all she has to do is go into the Gymboree store, pick out what she wants, and sign for it. Must be nice, but I still wouldn't sacrifice my child for it.

momof5 said...

Trinabee~

I'm not trying to be ugly when I say they will end up divorced but it is a fact that parents of multiples have a higher divorce rate. Plus add in the stress of a "reality" show & it's even higher.

momof5 said...

WOOHOO Discovery Communications forwarded my e-mail on. This was the 2nd e-mail I got from Disc. Keep writing everyone! The 1st was just "we can't respond to all emails blah blah blah"
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Dear Viewer:

Thank you for contacting Discovery Communications. We appreciate your correspondence and for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns with us. Given the issues you raised, we have forwarded your comments to our program management and executives for review. Feedback is encouraged and will help them plan for future programs. It is these types of commentsthat contribute to creating change and improving programming. By their nature, documentaries express the view of the filmmaker. Our networks present viewers with a window to the world and expose people to awide variety of issues. While not all viewers will agree with the perspective of every program, we allow our viewers to draw their ownconclusions about what they see.

Again, thank you for contacting Discovery Communications.

Sincerely,

Viewer RelationsDiscovery Communications

iluveeyore said...

This is an old stock letter from Discovery.

What needs to be pointed out to them is that J/K is NOT a "documentary."

They use that word to excuse a multitude of sins. What they're trying to say is the blame belongs to Figure8 Films!

Christine said...

momof5 said...
I wonder if Jon won't leave Kate not because of the child support but if there is something in their contract with TLC? I was also thinking if the money from the show goes to THEM or to HER. It would be interesting to find out. I still say they are divorced in the next 5 years.


12/11/2008 9:05 AM

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The way things are going, I would be more inclined to think that Kate would be paying Jon child support. She's the one 'working' right now, doing her P&G Pop Up Store thing, her 'book tour' and her KMart plug and Brown Bag lunch crap.

Jon's at home with the kids. If they ever did get divorced (no I don't think anyone hear wishes it but it really isn't too far off base here to actually come to reality one day) I think Jon would fight for custody of the kids. He could be shown the more stable and loving parent (all any Judge has to do is watch a few of their shows) and Kate would be paying child support to him. Can you imagine that? For someone who is so gender specific in roles, can you imagine Kate's reaction to be the wage-earner and Jon being the stay at home Dad? Ouch.

momof5 said...

My 1st letter was generic~well this one is too~but like I said the 1st just stated we can't read all the emails/respond personally this one actually says they will forward my concerns on.

I still haven't gotten a reply from P&G. Did anyone get one?

I wrote that E.M. (?) Tanner a while back too & got a response from her & she pretty much blew me off.

Suzie said...

Kenzie--I work for a major medica company in sales and I don't see an answer to your question, so all me? Jon and Kate do not go out seeking sponsors, they COME to TLC. TLC salespeople wrap up the sale, the company provides a certain amount of product (on condition of the contract between the company and TLC) and KON talk about it. That's called an endorsement.

There may very well be things Kate has always used and that company contacted TLC wanting to do endorsements and/or buy time during the show. When I say "buy time during the show", I mean that their commercials run during the half hour of Jon & Kate+8.

I hope that answers your question.

2badsosad said...

Josh+ said...
I was wondering, if Kate is so gung-ho on the organic way of eating...why don't they have their own garden in the backyard? Not only would they be able to really control how their fruits and vegetables are grown, but it would be a great learning experience for the kids. I mean we're all about the 'experiences' in this family, right? Ha Ha. Yes, I know they are in PA where it gets COLD and snows, but at least through the spring, summer and fall the garden would work. Just sayin...

12/11/2008 9:26 AM

Gardening involves DIRT and DIRT = BAD. Her own kid wont even kick a ball that has dirt on it for fear of maternal scorn and rejection.

KC said...

Anyone else seen the preview commercial for the next episode?

If I heard correctly, it is entitled "The Gosselins Give Back".

Can we say 'damage control' ?

Too little, too late.

J&K need to start giving back AT HOME,....by giving those children their lives back.

sheila said...

There is an article at parentdish.com about the Gosselins. They interviewed Kate and the comments were quite interesting!

Alex said...

I was just thinking about how Kate treats Jon. I don't think that hitting him is a matter of domestic violence, I just think it's annoying. Also, it struck me when she was fussing about Jon not turning on the oven that she behaves like a divorced parent, talking bad about the other parent. She's always saying things about Jon and complaining about him in front of the kids. And just like it's not healthy for divorced parents to talk badly about each other in front of the kids, I'm sure it can't be healthy for married parents to do either. Definitely not to the extent that Kate does it and not with such young children.

Christie Boatright said...

Kate and Jon are both immature. The people who defend them say "if you could only walk in their shoes" you wouldn't say things like that. Well, I'm here to tell you it boils down to them being immature and not being able to handle the children. Plain and simple. They act like teenagers themselves. They both sulk if they don't get THEIR way and yell and scream until they do. Even the little things in life become huge issues. It is ridiculous to watch these two "try" and play house!

Karen said...

I watched the hair plug episode as well (partly because i couldn't believe he was bothering with that; probably because Kate kept saying snarky things about "you used to have hair").

I'm not a nurse, but when your family needs you to do something gross like that, well you DO it without bitching and moaning and saying, "ew ew." No wonder she's not a practicing nurse anymore--she can't handle vomit, poop, or any kind of bodily mess. And why couldn't she have done it while the kids were in bed? Fewer distractions that way.

Irish-Gal said...

A few days ago in my English class we were assigned to write a narrative. Our guidelines for picking a topic were just to pick something you felt meaningful. We read all sorts of examples in class yesterday and today I chose somewhat of an obscure topic. Something that has always stuck out in my memory was a little game my brother and I used to play that we would come to call Crash Test Barbie. We created this somewhat rough game, when I was about four, where would take one of my Barbies, buckle her up in my Barbie jeep, and send her crashing into the wall. We still talk about it. It was just such a happy time in lack of a better phrase. I've been on lots of nice vacations since I was little, which I am very thankful for. They have supplied great memories, I love getting to travel, but ironically for this assignment I didn't choose to write about any of them. While many of my early memories, say from under four, are of vacations, they are mostly of the little things. When you come down to it, it's the little things that are important. As I left my study hall class today, having gotten a headstart on some drafing, I got thinking about the Gosselin kids. Memories have been attempted to be implemented into their minds; everything is so staged and planned out. They've never really had much of an oppurtunity to experience these "little things" with their lifestyle. It makes me sad. What will these kids be writing about for their ninth grade narratives?

Hambone said...

Kate speaks out

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/12/10/parentdishing-with-kate-gosselin/

momof3andlovingit said...

This is the response I got from another church.
Apparently what we are watching is all a scripted sitcom? They are just acting? It's not actually the tups in the bath or on the toilet? Kate's not really hitting Jon or calling her children "icky" or "ugly"?
I'm debating on actually calling and talking to this man...asking him if he really KNOWS them???

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If you would actually like to speak to me about your concerns, please call. I implore you as a fellow Christian to withhold judgment unless you know them personally to be doing these things. Most of what you speak of is pure speculation, rumor, and gossip - all of which are not Biblical. Thank you for your concern.

Sue said...

On the hair plug episode, when Kate was talking about taking out Jon's staples, she refered to "a video" that the clinic sent home. She said it looked pretty easy on the video. I'm in my fourth year of nursing school and I sure as hell wouldn't need a VIDEO to show me how to perform a basic skill like staple removal.

Teryn said...

momof3andlovingit said...
This is the response I got from another church.
Apparently what we are watching is all a scripted sitcom? They are just acting? It's not actually the tups in the bath or on the toilet? Kate's not really hitting Jon or calling her children "icky" or "ugly"?
I'm debating on actually calling and talking to this man...asking him if he really KNOWS them???

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If you would actually like to speak to me about your concerns, please call. I implore you as a fellow Christian to withhold judgment unless you know them personally to be doing these things. Most of what you speak of is pure speculation, rumor, and gossip - all of which are not Biblical. Thank you for your concern.

12/11/2008 1:22 PM

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Boy! Talk about somebody needing to take the blinders off!!! He must not watch the show, or else he is vision and hearing impaired. Wonder if he thinks the Osborne family would be appropriate for his church. After all, we can't judge Ozzy because we don't really know him.

Kassy Mc. said...

In regards to Mommy Dearest, aka- Kate Gosselin- it was in either People mag or Good Housekeeping that quoted Kate as saying the show was their "job." And that she asked the kids if they would rather mommy & daddy be at home and they do the show or have mommy & daddy work and be gone- the kids allegedly picked doing the show. Can someone please tell me how on earth this woman feels that it is okay to put such pressure on children to make that decision? Of course leave it up to KON to guilt the kids into making them money. I could spit I'm so disgusted with this. Great for them making money, I could care less about that- who wouldn't take some extra cash?!? However, this show could be done in a much more tasteful manner, i.e., film the family once a week, only do 12 shows a season, etc.

Jen said...

If you would actually like to speak to me about your concerns, please call. I implore you as a fellow Christian to withhold judgment unless you know them personally to be doing these things. Most of what you speak of is pure speculation, rumor, and gossip - all of which are not Biblical. Thank you for your concern.

Wow, that is FRUSTRATING. "Speculation, rumor, and gossip"? I mean, most of what we criticize is taken DIRECTLY from the show. The hitting, condescension, etc. That ain't speculation.

2badsosad said...

momof3andlovingit said...
This is the response I got from another church.
Apparently what we are watching is all a scripted sitcom? They are just acting? It's not actually the tups in the bath or on the toilet? Kate's not really hitting Jon or calling her children "icky" or "ugly"?
I'm debating on actually calling and talking to this man...asking him if he really KNOWS them???

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you would actually like to speak to me about your concerns, please call. I implore you as a fellow Christian to withhold judgment unless you know them personally to be doing these things. Most of what you speak of is pure speculation, rumor, and gossip - all of which are not Biblical. Thank you for your concern.

12/11/2008 1:22 PM

And if you were to know J & K personally and came to the same conclusion of 'judgement' after knowing them on a personal level that you did prior to ever meeting them, ONLY then would your 'judgement' of them be considered 'biblical'? What if you had sent an email raving about how J & K are the epitome of christian values, would your 'judgement' of them prior to never meeting them be embraced as 'biblical'?
OK, Whatever!

Ilovemykids said...

Sounds like it was written by the Gosselin PR firm. I wonder if the church forwarded your concerns to the Gosselin's PR firm and this was the response?

Sara said...

While watching a repeat today, I realized that Aaden really looks like Jon's father.

momof3andlovingit said...

Well, I was in a lousy mood today, so I e-mailed the pastor back and asked him when a good time to call would be. I told him maybe he could enlighten me as to what I must have seen incorrectly on a television program.
I'll let you all know what transpires.

momof3andlovingit said...

The other response I received from a church is in the Free Discussion 12/4 to 12/11 thread.
This man was very nice, but also totally missed my point...being my concern for the children's privacy and lost childhood.
I don't care how many devotionals Kate posts, how often she claims to pray or read the bible...it doesn't change the fact that her children are suffering and no one is stopping it.

Addison said...

So I actually caught a little bit of the hairplugs episode yesterday - thoroughly disgusting/boring episode. However, it did remind me of how great Aunt Jodi is and how much the kids must miss her. I loved the scene where she was making sidewalk drawings with them. Kate would never do that.

Disney said...

As a mother of two teenage girls, I clearly remember the time when they were involved in various activities (when they were younger) which meant the Mommy taxi was going full speed. Somehow I can't imagine Kate doing that and especially with 8 kids. Given that she has alienated friends and family, I can't imagine anyone (other than paid help) stepping in and helping shuttle the kids. Sigh. Does that mean the kids won't get to do these things? Playing, exploring, making friends, having experiences with peers are all part of child development. I hope that these kids get to have these joys.

Marie-France said...

Momof5, here is the response I got via email yesterday from P&G. It's your basic, canned bs response:

Thanks for contacting us.

We rely heavily on consumer comments regarding our advertisements, and feedback like yours will help us decide how to approach future advertising efforts. Please be assured I'm letting our marketing team know how you feel.

Thanks again for writing.

P&G Team

lisa.k. said...

You can tell the kids miss Beth, because in the 'Twins Play Mommy' episode she called the alligator Elizabeth and in the 'Sound of music' episode she called an alligator Carson. If Kate wanted to do what is right, she would at least let those kids see the people they care about,and forget about what she wants for a change.

Tigerfan said...

In response to comments posted on the Parent Dish article; Many of the J & K supporters that rave on about how J & K have 'struggled' and are deserving of ALL they have come to receive (freebies, love offerings, sponsored vacations, etc), WHAT struggles???? If I am to understand this logic correctly, when two adults make a conscious decision to become parents, that alone equals 'struggle' thus to be generously rewarded by the hands of others? Is it the fact that J & K are parents of 8 children? or two sets of multiples that makes them 'deserving' of such great rewards? I have yet to understand what 'struggles' that J & K have endured that are worthy of such great rewards? I guess fools will buy anything, including a whole lotta B.S.!!!!

Roscoe said...

Can anyone else see this article? I just see the first couple sentences then photos and a video.

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/12/10/parentdishing-with-kate-gosselin/

C said...

Ugh. Lines out the door at the mall she was at last night at a book signing in MI. You can read about it here:

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/index.ssf/2008/12/line_runs_out_the_door_for_boo.html

4thekids said...

Here's a link to AOL's "Kate fires back" type of article.

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/12/10/parentdishing-with-kate-gosselin/

Probably my favorite part: even though they work at home, there are many days when Jon and Kate work until midnight. *rolls eyes*

Vicki said...

To Lisa K., I miss Beth also. And Aunt Jodie. They are truly
kind hearted ladies who I would love to call my friend.
Too bad Kate is too full of herself to see they were only trying to help her, not take any "spotlight" off her.

Marilee said...

And why couldn't she have done it while the kids were in bed? Fewer distractions that way.

That wouldn't have made for good TV. KON won't make a move without first calculating how it fits into the production schedule.

AllisonSarah said...

i just read the parentdish thing from aol... its the biggest load of garbage ive ever read.

Marilee said...

I was just thinking about how Kate treats Jon. I don't think that hitting him is a matter of domestic violence, I just think it's annoying.

I agree. Also, while I don't think it's Jon's "fault" per se, people will only treat you the way that you permit them to treat you.

Jon permits her horrible treatment of him. If you tell someone to stop, and they don't, you don't just sit back, shrug, and say, "Well, I tried.". You step it up.

If Jon really wanted Kate to stop treating him like crap, he would immediately leave the room each and every time she slaps him or otherwise humiliates him, berates him, criticizes him, etc. EVERY TIME.

Are the cameras filming? Too bad, get up and leave. Is there a schedule to meet? Too bad, get up and leave. Would production get pissed off? Too bad, get up and leave. Would it breach his contract? Too bad, get up and leave. Every single time.

Yes, Kate and Kate alone is responsible for how she treats Jon. BUT -- Jon and Jon alone is responsible for how he responds. If he puts up with it, then yes, THAT response is HIS fault.

This isn't an example of bad treatment taking place behind closed doors, between an older stronger male against a younger weaker female. It is not that complicated... Kate treats him the way she does for one reason: he allows it.

Stacey said...

Jen said...Wow, that is FRUSTRATING. "Speculation, rumor, and gossip"? I mean, most of what we criticize is taken DIRECTLY from the show. The hitting, condescension, etc. That ain't speculation.

12/11/2008 2:13 PM
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Well, actually what you speak of is the conclusions of editing from the show. There's a big difference in that and in reality.

StephF said...

Roscoe said...
Can anyone else see this article? I just see the first couple sentences then photos and a video.

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/12/10/parentdishing-with-kate-gosselin/

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I am having the same problem! I really want to read the article!

Barbara said...

To read the parent dish, click on the pink sub title use the drop-slide to the right to get full page

YeahWhatever said...

4thekids said...
Here's a link to AOL's "Kate fires back" type of article.

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/12/10/parentdishing-with-kate-gosselin/

Probably my favorite part: even though they work at home, there are many days when Jon and Kate work until midnight. *rolls eyes

Work from home? Kate must also be 'blessed' with the super human power of being able to 'work' at home and show up to do her 'work' in NY as spokesperson for P & G , along with all the book signings and tv appearance gigs nationwide over the past few months.

Somewhereinoh said...

C said...
Ugh. Lines out the door at the mall she was at last night at a book signing in MI. You can read about it here:

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/index.ssf/2008/12/line_runs_out_the_door_for_boo.html

12/11/2008 4:29 PM

If I recall correctly, wasnt a statement released by the publisher of J & K's book stating that J & K would NOT be participating in a book signing tour?

C said...

Somewhereinoh said...
C said...
Ugh. Lines out the door at the mall she was at last night at a book signing in MI. You can read about it here:

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/index.ssf/2008/12/line_runs_out_the_door_for_boo.html

12/11/2008 4:29 PM

If I recall correctly, wasnt a statement released by the publisher of J & K's book stating that J & K would NOT be participating in a book signing tour?

12/11/2008 5:43 PM


She's not doing a book tour. She's in MI recording the "Book On Tape" version of her book. I guess she's making a few book signing appearances while she's there. I think she's done 3 appearances total.

Janine said...

"She's not doing a book tour. She's in MI recording the "Book On Tape" version of her book. I guess she's making a few book signing appearances while she's there. I think she's done 3 appearances total."

"Books on Tape," huh? For the blind sheeple? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

Chris said...

From someone who was at the book signing last night in Michigan who posted this on another site:

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Well, I have never posted here… but, I have read about people that have met her at church discussions and signings etc. I didn’t really believe all that was said about her, that she was rude and such… Well, she was in Michigan today at Barnes and Noble doing a book signing… So… I also work at the mall where Barnes in Noble is and I got out of work at 5… so I thought… “I don’t have anything to do tonight, I’ll just wait in line” So… the book signing started at 7… and when I got there at 5 there were already lines through the whole book store, winding in and out through all of the book shelves…

There were people of all ages there… lots of young children… young and old… the store was packed… There were 2 very cute kids waiting in line in front of me… one was a 4 year old girl… the other was a 3 year old boy… They were sooo excited… They just kept saying “KATE KATE KATE… I need to see if she’s a real person, she’s my favorite”-things like that… they were very excited….

6:30 rolls around… the line is now out the bookstore and wrapped around the WHOLE first floor of the mall… And it is not a small mall either…

7:00 Kate arrives… people screaming and such… very excited… Kate kind of looked irritated when she walked in…whatever…

so she starts signing at about 7:10-7:15… the line didn’t move for half an hour… she wasn’t allowing any pictures with her or anything…

During the first hour, she took a 15 min “bathroom break” during this time I was right near the restrooms and people were taking pics of her… she covers her face and says “why are these people taking pictures of me?”

She goes back and signs more books…There is a glass window in the front where she was signing, and people were gathered around taking pics in awe (reminded me of trl)…. It was VERY packed… people were gathered around and nobody could exit the building out into the mall because everyone was taking pics and such… The guy that worked there said they need to clear the exit or the fire station was going to close it down… it was like she was a HUGE celebrity… like a rock star or something… I guess the first person in line got there at like 2?

So she signed more books…and during the 2nd hour she is there she goes for a 2nd 15 minute break….(she was signing from 7-10) At this point I had been waiting for 3.5 hours… I was thinking I wasn’t even going to get my book signed at this point….

Finally…at about 9:35 I made it up to the front and I asked the guy from Zondervan books to take a pic of her with me (he was very nice) He took a couple…she wouldn’t look up for the pics though… I asked her how the kids were… how she liked her visit to Michigan, she said ” I’ll tell you one thing, I would never live here it’s cold” then I asked her if she is still living in Pennsylvania ( I wasn’t trying to be rude… I was going to ask her about a certain place there, because my sister lives there) and she said “We don’t say” I was just like “okay thanks” and I reached out my hand for her to shake it, and she didn’t…then, she finally did…

She just seemed very irritated…she also said she was tired… umm…. Those little kids that were infront of me, when they saw her they were like “Kate, Kate” and she just signed there book… didn’t even say anything to them….

So, I left and went to my work in the mall to get my schedule… and some people that I work with also waited in line to have her sign their book… They were very upset… They waited in line for 3.5 hours and at 9:55 I guess Kate said she was only signing 15 more books…. and my co-workers were 30 people behind the cutoff… At that point there was still a line going through the mall, and the staff told them that they would get a book signed…

I guess there were some little kids crying because they didn’t get to have their book signed….It really is a shame… they could have cut off the line a while back so the people didn’t have to wait in the line…Barnes and Noble sold out of books… I guess they had 500+ books and had them bring more books…

I just don’t understand why she can’t just cheer up and put on a smile, these people really like her..And to complain she’s tired and irritated at all of us… But, I can tell you all of those people waiting in line at 6:30 to see her and then getting told she is not signing anymore… I’m sure they weren’t the happiest campers…

I guess I can’t really explain it… you all probably know (or maybe don’t) what I mean… I took some pretty good pics of her… I don’t know how to show pics to you all on this thing… or I would show you… maybe I will figure out how to tomorrow…

Sorry if some of this doesn’t make sense… I, myself am pretty tired after waiting in line for 4 1/2 hours…. but, now I know how she REALLY is…

check out the photos if you are interested in seeing them… I don’t know how to add the photos to the post…so, they are in the “photo” section!

Chris said...

Here is a direct link with photos from the Michigan appearance last night:

http://www.cafemom.com/group/51286/boards/read/6838937/I_just_met_Kate_tonight

Allison Parker said...

Who here has noticed similarities between Kate Gosselin and Rod Blagojevich? They both have funny hairstyles, are corrupt, use people and discard them when they are done with them, and alienated from in-laws? Just realized how both are described as narcissistic.

BAC said...

I wonder what cut of the prophet Beth gets. I bet it just kills KON that she is making money off their kids. I also wonder if any of the kids in the twins class in school who have heard it from their parents ask the twins what happened to Beth and Aunt Jodie.

Can you imagine Kate waiting in line for hours for someone to sign a book for her?

Debra said...

Allison Parker said...
Who here has noticed similarities between Kate Gosselin and Rod Blagojevich? They both have funny hairstyles, are corrupt, use people and discard them when they are done with them, and alienated from in-laws? Just realized how both are described as narcissistic.
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Allison - how funny you should say that! I live in Chicago and have been seeing the same striking similarities as you! At least the Illinois Senate can impeach Blago and make him go away while he awaits his trial - the outcome of which will hopefully ensure he gets many years in the slammer! Too bad we don't have any option to get rid of Kate!

Marilee said...

"Books on Tape," huh? For the blind sheeple? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

No, it's redundant.

momof5 said...

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/lifestyles/index.ssf/2008/12/book_signing_who_kate_gosselin.html

"The fact that we cannot go anywhere without being surrounded by fans -- that part is difficult for me and always will be. I am finding, though, that with the release of our first book I am enjoying signing it and seeing the joy on people's faces as they talk about it," she said.

She is completely contradicting how the above person described the book signing

BAC said...

It sounds to me like KONS PR people need to give Kate some pointers on how to be a cheerful celebrity!

BAC said...

Where is the photo section located on this blog?

ThreeFarmers said...

OMG, if the Gosselins divorced...could you imagine having Kate as your boyfriend or husband's ex, if Jon were to find someone new?

I've always said that the only thing worse than having Kate as your wife would be to have Kate as your ex-wife.

Hambone said...

momof5 said...
http://www.mlive.com/grpress/lifestyles/index.ssf/2008/12/book_signing_who_kate_gosselin.html

"The fact that we cannot go anywhere without being surrounded by fans -- that part is difficult for me and always will be. I am finding, though, that with the release of our first book I am enjoying signing it and seeing the joy on people's faces as they talk about it," she said.

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Mobbed by fans? Really? Gee, seems like they had a difficult time getting people to come to their yard-sale. I certainly saw no fans surrounding them. She lives in a dream world. She's also forgetting we watch them visit places, and we've yet to see them surrounded by fans.

Can I thump her in the head like Moe thumps Curly?

AUNTY K.K. said...

Say, "momof3andlovingit", I've been writing the churches too, and I received the 'same response" letter, so I called...very interesting conversation...I basically asked them to do a 'through' search of K/J's past:--- with respect to the church that redid their first home/all the items they 'begged' for and received/the'use' of volunteer's and 'no thankyous'/the 'lack of laws' to protect the children in this TV industry/etc--(sorry I'm tired so this is just a summary of what I was trying to 'show'them prior to J/K speaking)..also about the 'love offerings' when they already have $$$$, when 'others' could use the money.

I also got a response from a few others...one church booked for Feb. 2009 stated they would not be doing a "love offering" and I wish I could attend, take that letter, photocopied' and challenge them if they did 'try' to get an offering.

I then wrote these people:


----- Original Message -----

To: info@pawomensshow.com
Sent: Wed, 10 Dec 2008
PA Womens Show May 1-3, 2009
Clear DayAttention: Amy Palmer,
I am writing about your upcoming Womens show in May,2009. I understand that Journal Publications is sponsoring this show at the PA Farm Show Arena in Harrisburg.........

And THIS WAS THEIR RESPONSE:

Thank you for your comments. Due to contractual obligations will are continuing with our current guest speakers.

All my best,
Amy Palmer


So, now my question is: What is in J/K's contract that organizations are no longer able to CANCEL EVENTS?

C said...

Judging by Kate's behavior in this interview conducted last night, I seriously seriously doubt she has a PR Firm working with her on her answers/behavior/interviewing skills. Her demeanor and personality was true Kate in this:
(click on the video tab):

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/TV_star_mother_of_visits_West_Mich

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Q. Are you surprised at the fandom of the show since it's started?

Kate: I think all these people are just being silly. It's ridiculous.

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Geez! Also I love how when Kate talks about writing the book she just talks about her writing it, no mention of Beth.

I read on another site an employee of Barnes and Noble had posted that they were at this signing working and at the end of the night there was a stack of 20 books waiting for her to sign (employees of B & N.) She looked at them and said, "I'm done!" and refused to sign them but yet she said in this interview that she felt bad that not everyone got their books signed. Would it have killed her to sign 20 more books for the employees of the store that helped with her signing? Whatever Kate.

ThreeFarmers said...

Where is the photo section located on this blog?

Turn to the center of the blog. The Mods are the ones with a staple through their navel.

Karen said...

C said--She's not doing a book tour. She's in MI recording the "Book On Tape" version of her book. I guess she's making a few book signing appearances while she's there. I think she's done 3 appearances total.

12/11/2008 6:15 PM

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C-how do you get your information? Where did you read that?

C said...

Karen said...
C said--She's not doing a book tour. She's in MI recording the "Book On Tape" version of her book. I guess she's making a few book signing appearances while she's there. I think she's done 3 appearances total.

12/11/2008 6:15 PM

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C-how do you get your information? Where did you read that?

12/11/2008 7:56 PM

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The links I provided above. She also mentions it in the link video I provided as well. Here it is again:

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/TV_star_mother_of_visits_West_Mich

Mar said...
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C said...

Mar said...
How can we find the pictures from the book signing on cafe mom? I can't find them!

12/11/2008 8:10 PM

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Mar, not sure how I found all of them on an index page, but here are a few. Maybe if you click around the site you'll find the main index.

http://www.cafemom.com/group/51286/photos/view.php?photo_id=536585

http://www.cafemom.com/group/51286/photos/view.php?photo_id=536584

http://www.cafemom.com/group/51286/photos/view.php?photo_id=536586

http://www.cafemom.com/group/51286/photos/view.php?photo_id=536587

http://www.cafemom.com/group/51286/photos/view.php?photo_id=536582

ThreeFarmers said...

I think you need to be logged into cafemom to view the photos (not sure) and it doesn't look like they are taking any new members.

Do any of us really need to see any more photos of the Gosselins?

I haven't seen the photos, but I'll take a guess...

Kate has weird hair and his holding Hannah.

Jon's smile looks to have been painted on him.

The Twins look miserable.

Alexis is grinning ear to ear because she always is.

Bella said...

I know someone else posted this link but I thought it was worth re-posting. It's amazing how far back their scam goes. One of the more annoying things that Jon and Kate do (there are many to choose from) is the way they use religion to make financial gains. It really is disgusting. To have a "prayer" list is ridiculus. You aren't praying for it by posting it on your website. You are asking for donations. Why not just call it what it is, a need/want list. On their 2007 page it was posted that they were looking for a Christian book publishing company to publish their story because "many, many, many" people want to read it. That's funny, I thought they said they published it to capture the memories for their children. They also said that they were planning to publish a large family organization book and a cookbook (of course due to high demand). So I guess that's what is next, after the family photo album that is. And if they were really interested in talking to people at churches about how God has "blessed" them, then why the hefty appearance fee. They can only share their story and inspire people if they get paid a large sum of money. Besides, what else is left to tell? They have a show, they've written a book, they've done hundreds of the same interview...And in addition to thanking God, maybe they ought to thank all of the people who have given to them. They would probably be there for days then instead of a few hours so I guess they just decided it would be easier to thank God. I'm so fed up with these 2 KONS!

Bella said...

Sorry-I forgot to post the link at the end of my rant. I just got so angry.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.sixgosselins.com

Miriam said...

Has anyone ever Googled Kate Gosselin and clicked on the News section of the page? There are a lot of articles written about her from various newspapers. It's always interesting to read about what other people say.

nosheeple said...

Sorry, but I would not wait in line for that long to meet anyone, let alone someone whose claim to fame is taking fertility treatments. Ugh. And someone really let their little children stand there?? Really? : ( I hope the adults who chose to wait all learned a valuable lesson. Did Kate have some sort of irritable bowel issue that she need to spend so much time in the bathroom!

ThreeFarmers said...

I think that's the nicest thing you've ever said about the Gosselins 3F. Are you softening?

I've written a whole lot about how great I think those kids are. I don't know how many time's I've said that I'm a full-on Mady fan. I wrote in all caps for Joel when he was the first to ride the bike.

I've said tons of good things about those children.

I've also complimented Jon's ability to handle the kids on his own. Heck, even in the last recap I said he was WISE for keeping quiet while Kate was blathering on nonsensically. Those who think I only write bad things about the Gosselins are only looking for bad things.

Tess said...

Article on Beth Carson

There is a new article in the Reading Eagle about Beth Carson. It is called 'Slices of Life'. It is interesting but not real revealing on what has occurred recently between Beth and the Gosselins. HOWEVER, there are a couple of sentences stating in no uncertain terms that BETH is the author. Beth is so classy so I didn't really expect her to ever dish on the details but this statement says it all!!!

http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=117302

Judy said...

Wow on the article about Beth!!! She is very classy!
I'm glad she is claiming credit for writing the book...but I wonder how this is all going to play out. Kate is claiming to have written the book and now Beth is saying she did. Which one actually wrote the words? It's Kate's story but is it Beth's book? Hmmmmm

Wendy Bird said...

Thanks for the link, Tess.

Judy said...
Wow on the article about Beth!!! She is very classy!
I'm glad she is claiming credit for writing the book...but I wonder how this is all going to play out. Kate is claiming to have written the book and now Beth is saying she did. Which one actually wrote the words? It's Kate's story but is it Beth's book? Hmmmmm


This could get interesting! Kate is on a mini book tour taking all of the credit for writing the book, and Beth (in a truly classy way) tells us; "They lived it, but I wrote it."

Go Beth! Keep talking about your book!

Cheryl said...

WOW! Kate the diva at the book signing. She has to have a break every hour from sitting on her rear? My daughter is sixteen and works retail(not sitting on her rear)she only gets abreak after four hours, of course she has a work ethic, something Kate knows nothing about.

The way she treated the kids in line to meet her was unforgivable. Has anyone ever seen Jon or Kate give any attention to any children but their own? RE: nieces or nephews,the shildren in the Phillys box,children at any of the numerous places they scammed. However, how many times have we heard her say how much everyone loves her children and WANTS to do things for them.

I think mondays show will be hard to take. It will be so fake because they are not nice to other children. Also if the rumor is true that it is at St.Judes in Memphis(they were spotted shopping there). They can't even give back without turning it into a road trip vacation. Aren't there any sick children in need in PA?

UniStudent said...

Quote from reading Eagle article:

"While Carson is listed as a co-author on the book, she makes each of their contributions clear.

"They lived it and I wrote it," she said."

How can Kate be giving interviews talking as though she wrote it alone? It's despicable to not give someone credit for work they've done.
These people just keep pushing it and pushing it.

Theykeepgettingworse said...

Not like there are not enough disturbing things already mentioned about this show, but I'll add one more. There has been plenty of talk about showing the kids in various states of undress and general inappropriate situations. I think we all agree how bad this is.

The one thing I have not seen mentioned is that they are basically teaching their kids that being naked in front of a camera is ok. I know this is a disturbing thought, but thought it warranted a mention. I have a three year old and we already talk with her about private spaces and who is allowed to look or touch. Not in a serious crazy way but when an opportunity arises.

As bad as Jon and Kate are it horrifies me to think this thought has not crossed their mind. Especially with the kids being so well known now, which sadly we all know exposes them to so many people. I would NEVER let my daughter think if someone is paying you money and has a camera, all rules fly out the window. And while I would never accuse any of the production crew of intentionally doing anything wrong, how as a parent can you tell your kids that these strangers are one of the few that can see your private areas whenever they feel like. Ugh, I'm sorry again if this borders on disturbing, but it has just been driving me crazy and I never thought this was possible, but makes Jon and Kate even worse parents in my eyes.

beachchick said...

Kate has a Reverse Mullet! awe that felt good. LOL

Kristi said...

Oh for goodness sakes! Beth is indeed classy and unless you know otherwise as to why she's not with Kate on the mini-tour, you're not going to see her on tour with Kate because it was probably set up that way by the publisher.

And maybe she's not there because Beth has other more important things and she's clsssy enough to let Kate do all the publicity, especially since it is Kate's show. More maybes...maybe there's something important in her family's life that she can't make it to these events; maybe she's watching the tups for Kate (and we'll see it in future episodes?. I could go on.

Not defending Kate here, but I am in disbelief at how everyone has made the assumption that Kate wrote off Beth.

Jennifer said...

Maybe someone needs to offer Kate a lollipop or Hershey's kiss if she behaves well during these appearances?

lifeoriley said...

FYI-- Kate is scheduled to do a book signing at Hackman's Bible Book store in Whitehall, PA on December 18th.
I'm not standing in line or buying the book, but I thought the info was worth passing on.

Mark said...

I'd love for someone to ask Kate point blank at a book signing "Where's Beth? Didn't she write the book too?" and then report back on her response. Maybe we could trigger yet another damage control episode!

Sophia said...

Kristi-
If Beth and Kate were still friends, why wouldn't Kate mention Beth when discussing the book? If your friend wrote a book for you, wouldn't you mention her?

Cherie Midland said...

Kate is truly a diva in her own mind. Yes people are interested in her children but in no way shape or form is this woman for real. She is fake as I'll get out and anyone who has ever come into contact with her will testify to that fact.

The only people that Kate gives a hoot about is those who GIVE her something in return.

My take on the whole issue is to let the kids be. Let them lead a normal childhood. Let them go see their grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins.... AND go let Kate and Jon go play in New York and in Hawaii but leave the kids alone. They made a name for themselves by using the kids, wasn't that their goal? They did it now move on.

Why rake your kids over the coals over and over each week just because you are self serving? It is a shame. You believe in God Kate? Well, you haven't seen God's wrath Woman! Keep it up and you certainly will someday! For shame, for shame.

jsg said...

You know what? As long as people continue to support these morons, nothing is going to change. She continues to be nasty to people, and yet they still fall all over her.
If people are going to be idiots, then I cant blame kon for taking advantage of all these stupid, ignorant people.

AUNTYK.K. said...

I WISH I lived closer, I would go to these "signings" and take, Photocopied Pages of "actual K/J letters" to show these people the "real" kate...

I'd hand them out and state, Please read prior to 'buying and having a book signed'.

"FRAUD"...Protect your children..

Then I'd keep asking Kate about Beth, until I got thrown out!

So, WITH ALL of "us" who are so mad at ALL of this, WHO is going to go in PERSON and ask about BETH, OR, copy 'articules" and hand them out...then get back to US, your results?!

Angela said...

momof3andlovingit said... Her children are suffering?
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Hmmm...they go on nice trips, are well-fed, and very-well loved. Yep, that's suffering.

Kristi said...

Sophia, Kate doesn't have to mention Beth if she doesn't want to. And, who's to say she hasn't? And, who's to say that Beth told her to promote the book and make sure she is or isn't mentioned? We don't know, because we don't personally know Kate or Beth. We only see clips of news stories on it.

It's Kate and Jon's life. That's how the publisher seems to be having them go out to publicize it. Kate has many fans (obviously not here) :)
And, I'm sure Beth has fans, too. But, Kate is the mom of the tups. It's the tups that draw people to her. Thus, drawing people to buy the book.

Prognosticator said...

During the Woodtv interview, Kate said that if there was one lesson she has learned that she can't predict the future.

Well, Kate, I can predict a bit of your family's future for you...this social experiment that you are conducting will have negative consequences on your children that you are not equipped to deal with.

Cupcake Gate said...

Jennifer said...

Maybe someone needs to offer Kate a lollipop or Hershey's kiss if she behaves well during these appearances?

12/12/2008 7:41 AM

No, they need to tell her that they will give her one and then take it away or not give it to her. Give her a taste of her own medicine.

goredsox said...

Hi all-

Here is a link provided on another thread :

www.parentdish.com/2008/12/10/parentdishing-with-kate-gosselin/

I just posted a comment ( you have to register, but it takes 2 seconds and your email is not shown).

It is absolutely mind boggling how crazed the fans are.

Everybody needs to write to open the sheeple's eyes.

EP said...

Right now I'm watching the original "Surviving Twins and Sextuplets", as I have many times, but this time I'm really paying attention to how cute, kind, and happy the twins are - back when they used to be carefree.

I'm also surprised at how different Kate acts. She seems kind and friendly.

It's amazing how much cameras can change their lives.. I feel so sorry for the kids. They just can't be normal.

SmartyQ said...

C said... She's not doing a book tour. She's in MI recording the "Book On Tape" version of her book. I guess she's making a few book signing appearances while she's there. I think she's done 3 appearances total.

Boy, would I love to be a fly on the wall while QFI's reading her book because the the woman can barely speak, let alone read. I wonder who will pay the $$s to hear a couple of hours of 'Um, um.'

momof3andlovingit said...

Angela said...
momof3andlovingit said... Her children are suffering?
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Hmmm...they go on nice trips, are well-fed, and very-well loved. Yep, that's suffering.

12/12/2008 12:22 PM

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Do you have children?
I will concede that the viewers see the children fed, clothed and in a very nice home with their material needs met. And yes, they sure do get some nice trips. Does this mean the children are truly happy? Feel well-loved? Secure?

Let me ask you this? If you knew you were dying...would you leave your child or children with Kate and Jon Gosselin? Knowing that your child would be taped during their most private moments? Would be ridiculed and made fun of on national t.v.? Would routinely witness the "parents" belittling one another and the mother smacking the father? Would not be allowed to get dirty, play with friends, do normal childhood things? Would the trips and the clothes and the toys be better than loving, nurturing parents?

In my honest opinion, I do think the children are suffering.

ashley said...

Well I just finished watching the first hour special, TLC aired it this afternoon. Wow, what a difference. Kate is sooo much kinder and gentler, with both Jon and the kids. They mention at least 2 different groups of friends, Aunt Jodi is also part of it. They go out for dinner with another family of multiples. Kate interacts with all the children, not just Hannah. Also another thing that got my attention: Mady and Cara are were the same age then that the tups are now........ They can read, count, talk in full sentences, and occupy 6 one year olds. Im wondering if the twins were so advanced because of the time they spent with their grandparents while Kate was pregnant. I feel really bad for the Gosselin family because Im certain if they had not had their show they would happier and love each other more.

Tammy H. said...

I have a question...when Jon went to California for his hair plugs..the doctors told him and the viewing audience that this was the 1st procedure and that 6-8 months later, he was going to have to come back and have another for the bald spot on the crown of his head. Does anyone know if he has had this done? It definitely doesn't look like he has and the front isn't all that great either. Maybe he has had the 2nd procedure but TLC didn't want to do a repeat show-we know he could of had it done with no problem, especially with all the trips around the country they take to speak to the masses and promote THEIR book!

Tammy H. said...

And yes trinityella...some of the ways they act is like a slap in the face to the bloggers who they despise, why do they despise us, because we tell the truth. And the other episodes where they go overboard with loving on Joel, Kate letting Jon take control, Kate being "nice", the yard sale for pediatric cancer...it's all damage control. There is no doubt in my mind that they both read this blog and at times, I believe they have posted here, of course when they post, they are in favor of how Kate acts..lol! I think they know they are on thin ice and an elephant is slowly walking their way. :)

Disney said...

Just reflecting a bit. When this started, Kate said they did it because people would want to peek in their windows followed by making memories for the kids.

I wonder if Kate ever dreamed of all the fame and money this jauggernut would generate. Based on what I've seen on TV kate doesn't like being around people, but her job requires her to do so. She wants to be the center of attention, but its because of her kids that causing the attention. In order to be the center of attention, she has to put down and/or eliminate family and friends in her life. No one can be better than her. As a result cracks began to form in her carefully crafted persona; hard working mom, poor no money me, they don't know how to help me. As as time goes by more cracks will form and then it will all crash down. The entertainment industry loves to build people up only to stand by in glee as they crash and burn. And it will happen. As more and more articles are published, main stream journalists will pick up on this family and start to ask the hard questions which many of us want asked. Its coming, stay tuned.

Gregory House said...

I also noticed the difference in the way they both acted in their first 1 hour special. They actually did seem to be "struggling" so to speak. But we all know what a crock that is. They were never "struggling". They were just making do with less than they are now. Even though they seemed much more tolerable then, we all have heard that Kate was demanding and feeling entitled long before that episode was filmed. All new, matching, name brand items ring a bell? Medicaid paid nurse anyone? Wallets full of gift cards donated by well wishers... the list is endless.

SAHM said...

I was flipping channels today and saw the 1st special they had too. My husband grew up w/ Jon and even though he stopped watching the show a long time ago and got updates from me watching(up until 3wks ago)... HE EVEN said that he misses the "old" Jon and how the show has TOTALLY changed him. That's what greed and the love of $ will do to you. So Sad!

nosheeple said...

To Kate..I mean, the person writing comments defending Kate for ignoring Beth on her book tour..you must be the only person left to whom this is not obvious. They are not friends anymore! She disappeared off the show about what..a year ago?? Right right after they went skiing together. She was never mentioned again. There is no more going to Beth and Bob's constantly. Jon no longer "works for him", although he probably never really did. Neither mentions the other in interviews. Beth did not say anything about being friends with them and Kate simply clams up and changes the subject when Beth is mentioned. It's not working. Being silent about it will not make it go away as much as Kate wishes it would!

Belle said...

For those catching up... on the subject of the donations to pediatric cancer. There was an event this summer that I attended where Jon spoke. Pediatric cancer was the event "charity" -- in particular "The Jimmy Fund" of Boston. I complained quite loudly on the blogs directly after the event how annoyed I was that he SOLD photos of his kids, detracting from the charitable drive. Anyone who bought photos of the kids, in my opinion, robbed The Jimmy Fund. That's what I put out there. So, imagine my surprise when they decide to give back and it's *ta-da* pedicatric cancer research!! D-A-M-A-G-E C-O-N-T-R-O-L!!! Heeeeellllloooooo!!

4tolove said...

So many people have asked why the "cut-out" family and friends have not spoken out on GWoP or anyplace else--Just a thought on that subject:

Maybe, just maybe, all of those people are waiting quietly in the wings so that when this all comes to a head and the poops in the "unerwears" hits the fan, the kids, especially, the twins will have people that can go to--people they know they can trust and confide in.

I am not saying that speaking out at this point would be exploitive but, really and truly, these kids (again, especially the twins) need friends and family that they can turn to who can honestly say they had the kids' best interest in mind.

fxfanatic said...

I think that the reason people like Jodi and Beth haven't come forward is because they have ethics.

Look at all of us who want the show to stop because we care about the kids. However, we really don't "know" those kids and Beth and Jodi do! As somebody else said, when they fall they are going to need a soft place to land. It's nice to know that there are people out there who love these kids ENOUGH to keep their mouth's shut.

The less I hear from these two woman the more I admire them. I wrote Beth and told her that I will buy anything she publishes, as long as the money doesn't go into Gosselin's pocket.

Tigerfan said...

Prognosticator said...
During the Woodtv interview, Kate said that if there was one lesson she has learned that she can't predict the future.


IMO, Kate is very well aware of the fact that SHE CAN predict her own future. It all began when she snagged an already spoken for 'Asian' man and quickly and methodically reproduced 8 money making off spring which in turn provided her the ego to demand the terms and conditions that would ultimately afford her 'economic security and the luxery of being a stay at home parent'.

notasheeple said...

I live in Grand Rapids, MI and Kate has been here this week, working on the taped version and doing appearances. She did two or three in GR and one more was thrown on because so many people showed up (like 1,000) at the one she did at a local Barnes & Noble. I think she is doing one more in Lansing, MI this weekend. There was an article in the GR Press talking about how nice Kate was being at the signing and how people lined up like 4 hours before to see her! I was not one of them. HA!

Erin said...

The Soup just skewered the show again! They mocked Kate for abusing Jon and claimed Jon had a Freudian type of slip during the interview at the end of the episode. I wasn't able to write it down but one of the lines was "Other than Kate yelling at Jon every time the wind changes"

Miriam said...

I didn't see the most recent episode that aired, but from what I have read here Kate said she is like Cara and Jon is like Mady. Well I just watched the FAQ part 2 episode on my cable's on demand channel and there was a part where Kate said Mady is like her and Cara is like Jon. She said it herself...why is she going back on her words? Gee, I wonder who the least favorite child is....

This family needs Supernanny. She's awesome.

Crazy Katie said...

If these two putz' ever divorced Kate would never get custody. Look at all the footage Jon now has of her berating him (he breathes too loud) and hitting him. Not to mention the comments and aggressiveness toward the kids. I'm not wishing divorce on them, but can you imagine the magnitude if it did happen? HORRIBLY HORRENDOUS!

Janine said...

From what has been posted on here in comments, it seems like Kate has been in Michigan since Wednesday and is going to do another signing on Friday...which is either today, or a week from today...so to me, it just really confirms that this family DEFINATELY has MORE than one nanny.

I mean, Jon is a much better parent than Kate, but we have all seen him take care of all the kids when Kate was gone for the weekend and I don't think he could do it alone all the time as much as she has been gone. Because remember people, they BOTH have the "job" of the show and stay up til midnight working...so coupled with Jons "constant working", I dont think he could effectively take care of all the kids for all these long periods of time combined with all the "working" he does.

I think they confuse "working" with "parenting in front of cameras in order to make money off your children".

Yeah, they are definately confused about that.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

I don't think it's unusual for celebrities to freebies. The key word is "celebrities." Celebrities work and have established something in their careers. What is unusual about KON is that they have not done anything but are all of a sudden treated like celebrities. I wish everyone giving them freebies and rolling out the red carpet for them would do it for our boys fighting for this country. They are the true celebrities, not KON.

Jodie said...

Erin said...
The Soup just skewered the show again! They mocked Kate for abusing Jon and claimed Jon had a Freudian type of slip during the interview at the end of the episode. I wasn't able to write it down but one of the lines was "Other than Kate yelling at Jon every time the wind changes"

12/12/2008 7:31 PM

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I was just coming here to see if anyone saw that!! It was really funny. It was an interview couch clip from the "Twins Play Mommy" episode. I wish someone could find a link to post it here, I can't even begin to quote the whole thing.

Jennifer said...

Did anyone see The Soup last night (12/12)? They made fun of the last episode where Cara and Maddy pretended to be parents. They made a big deal about how Kate belittles Jon and strips his manhood away. It was funny.

Kara said...

I happened to pick up a US magazine yesterday. Under the Stars the are Just Like Us section was a picture of none other than KATE. She was with Hannie and hard to believe JOEL!! They were buying presents. That is all Kate needed to feed her ego!! Celebrity??? Please...

SmartyQ said...

Disney said... Just reflecting a bit. When this started, Kate said they did it because people would want to peek in their windows followed by making memories for the kids.

I had never heard of Kon and their brood until I was sick and channel surfing. I happened to land on a marathon and, by the third episode, thought Queen Freebie Irene was nuts. I don't think anyone wanted to peek through their windows—unless it was Pennsylvania taxpayers who wanted to know why six healthy babies needed a nurse for another year.

Kon started publicizing QFI's pregnancy by calling radio stations and newspapers long before she entered the hospital. After the births, Kon were shopping their homemade videos among the networks in hopes of getting at least a special.

Kon aren't interested in making memories for the children; they want to make money from the children.

Disney said...

I was hoping someone could enlighten me on this. I read and see over and over again all the people who have helped Kate. Whom has Kate helped, other than herself?

Get a Clue said...

Someone above asked about leaving their children with Kate if something happened to them. I wouldn't allow my cat in the same house with Kate. I wouldn't want my adult children associating with Kate. I don't find her to be kind, generous, loving, or giving. So no and I don't think it's any surprise that the only other child we've seen with Gosselin crew was Beth's daughter for that one sleepover.

Cindy said...

I love this show and this family. It is very hard for me to believe all of the stuff you guys write is true. So she takes hand outs, she has 8 kids. So, they make money from the show...like anyone on here wouldn't.
I think they both take very good care of their children. Is there something I don't know about this family that you all know?

If they really live in that big house and neither of them have a job, than I have a problem. But, I thought Jon worked full time?

I would love to meet them in real life. I wish they would come to Missouri sometime.

ThreeFarmers said...

If they really live in that big house and neither of them have a job, than I have a problem. But, I thought Jon worked full time?


They have openly said on the show that neither work (beyond the show) and that allows them to stay home all day with the kids.

nosheeple said...

If they really live in that big house and neither of them have a job, than I have a problem. But, I thought Jon worked full time?

I would love to meet them in real life. I wish they would come to Missouri sometime.
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What makes you think he works full time? Have you watched the show in the past year--other than reruns when he did work for a short time? He has not worked in forever. Yes, they live in a huge house now, paid for by suckers who bought their "poor me" act. That is sad when people 'love' and 'want to meet' them. They would probably not give you the time of day if you stood in line 6 hours to meet them and gave them a love offering. What do they have to offer you?

Somewhereinoh said...

Cindy said...
I love this show and this family. It is very hard for me to believe all of the stuff you guys write is true. So she takes hand outs, she has 8 kids. So, they make money from the show...like anyone on here wouldn't.
I think they both take very good care of their children. Is there something I don't know about this family that you all know?

If they really live in that big house and neither of them have a job, than I have a problem. But, I thought Jon worked full time?

I would love to meet them in real life. I wish they would come to Missouri sometime.

12/13/2008 10:03 AM

How about they exploit their own children for monetary and personal gain? Jon hasnt held down a full time job since he realized that exploiting his children was a far more lucrative, regradless of how immoral, option for him. When you take the time to look beyond the illusion, the lies, and your own pre conceived assumptions of J & K, the TRUTH becomes much more clear As far as , would I 'take money from the show'; it's not my life that is being called in to question.

To Cindy said...

Yes, they did recently move to that house in Wernersville, PA. Many residents here saw them and saw the children playing on the front lawn.

A quick Google search will uncover one interview in particular, which I think you need to read. The one where Kate told a journalist from Berks County that it is 'society's obligation to provide for (her) family, because society allowed (her) to undergo fertility treatments in the first place'.

There is also serious speculation into whether or not the Gosselin's actually planned for a high multiple birth. In another interview, this time with Kate's mother immediately after the babies were born, it was revealed that Kate had 'finally gotten the twins she always wanted, and went beyond that'. IMO this is why Kate no longer speaks to her parents, they gave away her little secret.

You see, Kate underwent IUI. She was given medication to stimulate ovulation because of her claims of PCOS. During a routine ultrasound to check for follicles, it was discovered that she was in the midst of ovarian hyperstimulation. Her physician admitted her into the hospital for observation because in the case of hyperstimulated ovaries, no physician will willingly allow the treatment cycle to continue. Out of a very realistic fear of producing high multiples, part of the reason for hospitalization was to keep an eye on Kate so that she would not have an 'oops' and become pregnant anyway since they would not inseminate her. Yet lo and behold, 5 weeks later, it was revealed that Kate had somehow immaculately conceived the tups.

As for Jon working, he used to. For the PA Governor's office. But after he quit, he declared he 'switched jobs' and was then working for Beth's husband Bob, from home. However, the problem with this is that Beth's husband Bob works for a publishing firm. He does not own his own business and he is not a boss. Therefore, he has no authority to 'hire' Jon. (The company Bob works for is GIT Publishing).

So not only is Jon not employed, and leaching off his very young minor children, but he lies about being employed when he is not. Actually, Jon's work ethic isn't very stable to begin with either. During Kate's pregnancy, he was fired from I believe a couple of jobs, for not showing up. Kate claims it was because he applied for health insurance, that they fired him, but legally that is not possible and we all know KON, they would have sued. Truth is, Kate was on bedrest in Hershey Medical Center, and found it quite hard to keep tabs on her husband from afar. How dare he go out and work while she was hopitalized, someone had to be there to feed her grapes!

Oh, and after the babies were born, while they were banking 187k from Jon's father's life insurance proceeding his death, Kate's family arranged for the show "Home Delivery" to come into their then Wyomissing home and rennovate it for them. Kate didn't realize the mics were still recording when they caught her flipping out about the 'horrendous' color schemes, saying she could not allow the twins to sleep in their rooms now (yes, even the twins' room was redecorated as part of that project and it did not cost KON a red cent).

PS, I know what I know from living in the same area as them. They are infamous here in NEPA.

Sharla said...

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Cindy said...

WOW! There IS a lot I didn't know. I am quite disgusted.

downtheroad said...

Tocindysaid,was then working for Beth's husband Bob, from home. However, the problem with this is that Beth's husband Bob works for a publishing firm.


Bob does NOT work for a publishing firm. You are wrong.

Cindy said...

I will still continue to watch their show. To those who want them off the air: With high ratings and a huge fan base their not going anywhere for a while.

Wendy Bird said...

Here is the youtube link for The Soup 12/12:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpmTK43KSko

notbob'sjob said...

ToCindy said: As for Jon working, he used to. For the PA Governor's office. But after he quit, he declared he 'switched jobs' and was then working for Beth's husband Bob, from home. However, the problem with this is that Beth's husband Bob works for a publishing firm. He does not own his own business and he is not a boss. Therefore, he has no authority to 'hire' Jon. (The company Bob works for is GIT Publishing).
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Bob does NOT work for GIT Publishing out of Mountain Lakes, NJ. This company is a German company and this is the U.S. division. Bob also does NOT work as a mall builder/developer for Levin Corp. This information was posted on WikiAnswers several months ago by a poster named Thegcla. I think she is a nurse who used to work with Kate or at least knew Kate from Reading Hospital. In any case, her info is incorrect.

nancy019 said...

Here is the youtube link for The Soup 12/12:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpmTK43KSko

ha ha best laugh I had all week...I love the soup, they tell it like it is!

Molly said...

Do you think Kate has a personal assistant that travels with her?

Cindy said...

Yes, she probably does.

Harriet said...

There is also a bodyguard that people have discussed who have seen her and you can see him in some of the pictures from the book signing.

Lady_Angel said...

Does anybody know where they got their van? Was it donated to them?
How can they afford a 40k something van???

Disney said...

Oh man just saw a preview of J/K+8. There Kate was reading reading to the kids (I think it was 3-4 of the tups) the story of Despearux. There a tie in to another product that I won't watch. And, apparently, Figure8 has been reading this blog.

GrammyPie said...

They are only showing one more up coming episode....Giving Back. Is this perhaps a break in the new filming for a while? If so how nice for the kids. Let K/J travel around alone, and the kids stay home and be kids. It would be ideal if J/K stayed home and parented them, but that is not happening, so at least the kids get a break.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I just love seeing Jon and Kate on The Soup. Joel McHale is so right about Jon and Kate.

I think that Jon made a "Freudian" slip, and let the real truth come out. Did you see the look on Kate's face? I'm surprised that Jon didn't get slapped.

What's the deal with Kate and her feet up on the table? She keeps moving her feet. Is that more damage control? Is the PR team trying to show that Kate and Jon are relaxed and comfy together.

I'm sure that we will be seeing more of Jon and Kate on The Soup. The audience sure does laugh, and me too.

shawna said...

Why isn't she at home spending quality Christmas time with her kids....Since she's "lucky" enough to be a stay-at-home mom. Let's see money over the kids.

Barb said...

Oh No! Kate will ruin The Tale of Despereaux for me now. I really have my doubts that she read the whole story to the kids. Maybe Mady and Cara would be able to sit long enough to be able to listen to it. But it's a very long book! I also doubt she would able to pronounce all the character names too.

Gloria said...

Disney said...
I was hoping someone could enlighten me on this. I read and see over and over again all the people who have helped Kate. Whom has Kate helped, other than herself?

12/13/2008 9:09 AM

Although it pains me to do so, I do have to acknowledge that after she was unable to sell her six seat stroller and her feeding table on their website, Kate did give them to a family with quintuplets. That is probably the one and only instance I have ever heard of Kate helping someone else. And I suspect it is because she couldn't sell the items for profit.

Regarding Jon supposedly working for Bob Carson, the issue is not where Bob works. Regardless of where Bob works, the point is that Jon Gosselin quit his job with the state of Pennsylvania because he was taking too much time off for speaking engagements and filming obligations such a free trips. His supposed employment by Bob was short lived and a couple of episodes later he announced that he was working from home on his own. As a previous poster said, when do we ever see Jon doing anything work related on the show? His "work" is to pimp out his kids and ride the Gosselin gravy train. The other supposed jobs were cover stories to make it look like he was still gainfully employed.

downtheroad said...

Why does it seem that Kate is damned either way.

We have a fit she makes money off the kids by filming.

Now she's promoting her book and not home and she's being bashed for that.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I could be wrong, but I thought that the State of Pa. let Jon go, as in being fired, because he took way too much time off of work.

Breanna said...

I don't think its a big deal that she is out promoting the book and not at home for a week or two. I do think it was a big deal when they both left the kids for the hairplugs, and I think it's a big deal that they are gone so often for speaking engagements.

tami said...

Why does it seem that Kate is damned either way.

We have a fit she makes money off the kids by filming.

Now she's promoting her book and not home and she's being bashed for that.

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She lives off her kids, exploits them. If there were no kids, there would be no book, no get out of work free card for KON. The fact that they have to have their mother gone for a period of time (horribly horrendous mother or not) so she can go make more money off them is sick IMO. Plus if she had not alienated a good friend that friend could have split up the time touring with her.

Tami said...

Wow, to the person defending Jon over and over because Bob does not work for a publishing firm (like this matters how?) I notice you did not go on and defend the comments how he pretended to still be working when he wasn't, how he pretends "working in his closet" is being gainfully employed and how he has admitted to having a horrible work ethic. No matter where Beth's husband employed him--if he did--he didn't work there long, nor has he worked anywhere long! How convenient for 2 lazy leeches on society that they have all these kids to work for them!

Marilee said...

Why does it seem that Kate is damned either way.

We have a fit she makes money off the kids by filming.

Now she's promoting her book and not home and she's being bashed for that.


It's not like those are Kate's only two options -- stay home and exploit the children in front of the cameras or leave them behind constantly to exploit them on the road.

No, Kate is not damned either way, she is just damned as long as she continues to exploit her children. There ARE other options.

C said...

tami said...
Why does it seem that Kate is damned either way.

We have a fit she makes money off the kids by filming.

Now she's promoting her book and not home and she's being bashed for that.

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Kate isn't damned either way, she's damned because of the choices she's made regarding her children. She isn't damned for going on a book tour, she's damned because the kids are the foundation for the income they generate and have generated for the past 2+ years. Jon and Kate are just building off of the exploitation of the kids. Without the foundation the kids have built and continue to build for them, the book, speaking engagements, appearances, etc. would not be possible.

Who would watch the show without the kids? Who would read the book without any mention of the kids in it? The kids are the income generators, the parents are just trying to branch out as much as they can from what the kids have already established for them, so when the show goes kapoot, they can try to keep the money train rolling.

I'd rather poke my eye out... said...

Is Juicy Juice organic?
I don't think it is... hmm....
How un-awesome!

ThreeFarmers said...

Why does it seem that Kate is damned either way.

Ever since the tups were born (and probably before) Jon and Kate were using their existence to as an excuse to solicit handouts from the government, companies, and private citizens. They got their reputation for being exploitive and greedy over a long period of time. That reputation will not be changed easily.

I don't have a problem with Kate writing Multiple Blessings, except that she didn't write it and gives no verbal credit to her dear friend who did.

There is always something shady or self-promoting about everything they do, which raises questions in the eyes of the public.

If they want to change their image, they will only be able to do it in the manner in which they tarnished their image, which was by consistently behaving in a greedy and exploitive way over a long period of time. Jon and Kate expect a pat on the back every time they do something that seems remotely unselfish. Until they can behave charitably toward the public and quit exploiting their children and maintain those sorts of actions for a long period of time, they will never improve their image.

SmartyQ said...

Harriet said... There is also a bodyguard that people have discussed who have seen her and you can see him in some of the pictures from the book signing.

The bodyguard for Queen Freebie Irene is proof that she is totally divorced from reality. What does she think someone will do to her? Cut her hair so the sides are even? Scrape off the layer upon layer of make-up? Yank out her Invisaligns? Touch her?

Were (note the use of the subjunctive) QFI to stick even her pedicured whee-whee-whee-all-the-way-home toe in truth's waters, she'd realize that a) the bodyguard, if he's been around her more than five minutes, would assist the kidnappers, b), QFI knows where the money is—not Prince Ka-Ching, c) PK-C wouldn't pay a red cent to get her back, d) Figure8 could continue with the 'seasons,' which would be entitled 'Jon, His New Mate Plus Eight,' and e) no kidnapper, if he's watched two episodes, wants her.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Do Michelle Duggar and Elzabeth Hayes have bodyguards?

Marie-France said...

I just went on the woodtv website to check out the coverage of the book signing in Grand Rapids, MI. While I can't play videos on my computer, the picture of Kate's face that opens the video is telling. It looks to me like her lips have been done (bigger, thicker, plumper) and the one eye that we can see (other covered with the hair!) looks Asian to me. Do other people think she's had some work done recently or is it just the photo? I will say that since the show first started with the specials, she for sure has had her nose made more pointed/angular and her eyes have been made much tighter. Since this surgery was not part of an episode, I wonder if she paid for it out of the kids' earnings or if she pissed and moaned to TLC and they paid for it?

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Marie-France,

Sure Kate has had something done to her face. She is so vain. I'm sure that she has "connections" being that she's a nurse. She is so pushy and forward, that I wouldn't doubt, that she asks for free face work. Believe me, you didn't miss anything on the video.

Tess said...

Has anyone else sent a comment to Gymboree and received a response? And if you did receive a response, was it anything like I received (see below)?

I sent a comment awhile ago and didn't hear back. So, I sent another more recently. I received a response to this but was amazed at what it said! I'm not even sure the guy meant to include me on his reponse since it was so awful. It said:

"Let's not respond to this, if you haven't already...no real way we can win..."

It was sent to 'media_relations(all brands)...' besides me. Of course, I sent a reply. I can't believe this is how they conduct business!!!

Janine said...

Tess, I just went to Gymboree's website and sent their media relations department an email telling them they need to stop enabling the Gosselin child pimpers by providing free items to Kate. I am appalled at the response you got that was not intended for you. They are disgusting!!!

Wendy Bird said...

Tess said...

Has anyone else sent a comment to Gymboree and received a response? And if you did receive a response, was it anything like I received (see below)?

I sent a comment awhile ago and didn't hear back. So, I sent another more recently. I received a response to this but was amazed at what it said! I'm not even sure the guy meant to include me on his reponse since it was so awful. It said:

"Let's not respond to this, if you haven't already...no real way we can win..."

It was sent to 'media_relations(all brands)...' besides me. Of course, I sent a reply. I can't believe this is how they conduct business!!!


Tess, It looks as if you may have been copied in on an e-mail about your e-mail. It is very telling, if that is the case. Basically they were saying that they shouldn't respond to your e-mail because there is no way [they] can win...meaning they don't have a good answer for you.

Vicki said...

Tess: I haven't gotten a reply from Gymboree, but it sounds like
the guy who replied to your email
intended to "forward" your email
and in error left your name on the email and off it went to those he was instructing not to reply to our emails and you got it also. IMO, there are probably alot of interesting mails flying around at TLC, Good Housekeeping, etc.

timetogokon said...

Tess said...
Has anyone else sent a comment to Gymboree and received a response? And if you did receive a response, was it anything like I received (see below)?

I sent a comment awhile ago and didn't hear back. So, I sent another more recently. I received a response to this but was amazed at what it said! I'm not even sure the guy meant to include me on his reponse since it was so awful. It said:

"Let's not respond to this, if you haven't already...no real way we can win..."

It was sent to 'media_relations(all brands)...' besides me. Of course, I sent a reply. I can't believe this is how they conduct business!!!
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Wow. How very disappointing. This needs to be distributed somehow.

I've written about 15 letters to sponsors, and out of the handful who have responded, they were all lame, mass produced, blanket responses. This was very obviously not meant for your eyes. The Gymboree employee is a moron.

beachluvin said...

Tess said...
Has anyone else sent a comment to Gymboree and received a response? And if you did receive a response, was it anything like I received (see below)?

I sent a comment awhile ago and didn't hear back. So, I sent another more recently. I received a response to this but was amazed at what it said! I'm not even sure the guy meant to include me on his reponse since it was so awful. It said:

"Let's not respond to this, if you haven't already...no real way we can win..."

It was sent to 'media_relations(all brands)...' besides me. Of course, I sent a reply. I can't believe this is how they conduct business!!!

12/13/2008 10:04 PM
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It sounds as though someone hit the reply button instead of the forward button. If I were you, I would copy it and send a hard copy to the main office along with a copy to the press. It looks like someone blew it big time on this one!!! Of course, they will deny it.

diearmekinder said...

The most recent issue of US Weekly has a shot of Kate and (of course) Hannah in the "paparazzi" section. I am sure Kate will have this blown up and framed for the new kitchen walls.

2badsosad said...

"Why does it seem that Kate is damned either way."

That's what happens when one tells LIE after LIE. Why would anyone believe a pathological liar, let alone give them the benefit of the doubt.

my9cats said...

According to Mapquest Beth and KON live 10.36 miles apart, totalling 21 minutes travel time. Somehow KON's new house ( I refuse to call it a 'home') seems very in-your-face to the Carsons and all those who supportred them in the past and were shut out. IMHO the move back to Berks was pure and simple spite.

May Girl said...

I received this email this morning...

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Thanks again for writing.
Rose

P&G Team
We'll see how " heavily they rely on consumer comments"
By the way I have been receiving many coupon packets from P+G since I sent my email

2badsosad said...

beachluvin said...
Tess said...
Has anyone else sent a comment to Gymboree and received a response? And if you did receive a response, was it anything like I received (see below)?

I sent a comment awhile ago and didn't hear back. So, I sent another more recently. I received a response to this but was amazed at what it said! I'm not even sure the guy meant to include me on his reponse since it was so awful. It said:

"Let's not respond to this, if you haven't already...no real way we can win..."

It was sent to 'media_relations(all brands)...' besides me. Of course, I sent a reply. I can't believe this is how they conduct business!!!

12/13/2008 10:04 PM
*************
It sounds as though someone hit the reply button instead of the forward button. If I were you, I would copy it and send a hard copy to the main office along with a copy to the press. It looks like someone blew it big time on this one!!! Of course, they will deny it.

I agree! It seems as if 'some one' within Gymboree media relations has taken upon themselves to do a little 'damage control'. I am curious though, what the person meant by ' no real way we can win'? Gymboree dig themselves a hole they cant get out of? IMO, their response speaks volumes as to how they manage, or disregard, customer/consumer concerns!

Sophia said...

Can you imagine what Jon and Kate's life must be like? They get paid to stay at home with their kids. They get to move into the million dollar house of their dreams. They get to go on free luxury vacations. They get special treatment and privelages wherever they go. They get free clothes. They get free toys. They get book deals without having to actually write the books. They get paid to be spokespeople and utter a few sentences about how they use the product or service. What a "blessed" life they lead. All they have to do is "pray" for something, anything, and it seems to magically appear.

Sounds good right? Want this life for yourself? Well, all you have to do is exploit your children (who cares about their privacy or development), profess your devotion to your religion (don't worry about actually practicing what you preach), lie/exaggerate/ignore/deny (whichever best suits your needs at the time), sacrifice your family and friends after using them for whatever you can (you won't need them anymore) and above all else, always keep your hand out, whether you need to or not.

ThreeFarmers said...

According to Mapquest Beth and KON live 10.36 miles apart, totalling 21 minutes travel time. Somehow KON's new house ( I refuse to call it a 'home') seems very in-your-face to the Carsons and all those who supportred them in the past and were shut out. IMHO the move back to Berks was pure and simple spite.

It's not "in your face". Carson's house is much, much bigger and nicer. The Carsons have a tennis court and more land.

The Gosselins have yet to really keep up with the Carsons.

justmyopinion said...

I want to take a stab at the reasoning behind the vow renewal and the redundancy of "we are not going anywhere we'll be together forever" that Kon feels they must keep reitterating to their kids and the audience 1)She is trying to respond without responding to this blog and others that have many posts regarding Jon leaving her or that the kids would be better off without her. She wants everyone to know that he's not going anywhere.2)Also possibly there are kids at the school that may have made comments to the twins regarding divorce and they have brought their concerns home and it led to them all feeling vulnerable to that outcome so they are just trying to set their minds at ease. That way by addressing it on the show she's multitasking.Which also makes her feel like supermom.

Janine said...

Why does Kate always refer to her bedroom as "my room?" Also, it appears that Jon has been sleeping in the basement for quite some time. Most of us have been assuming it's because they have Alexis sleeping down there, but maybe it's another reason, like the marriage really is on the rocks. Kate's bs about the vow renewal to prove to the kids that "we'll always be together" may have some truth to it. They have to be staying together only because of the $$$.

Judy said...

I think one must remember that this blog and ones like it are not the only negative attention Jon and Kate must be getting. There are probably more blogs, websites, articles and "town gossip" that get through to them.
I'm sure family and friends (church too) have expressed concerns or opinions on what they are doing.
I admit I've gotten way too sucked into this drama. I feel like I've not only stopped my car but pulled out my plastic lawn chair and organic popcorn to watch this trainwreck!

2badsosad said...

According to Mapquest Beth and KON live 10.36 miles apart, totalling 21 minutes travel time. Somehow KON's new house ( I refuse to call it a 'home') seems very in-your-face to the Carsons and all those who supportred them in the past and were shut out. IMHO the move back to Berks was pure and simple spite.

It's not "in your face". Carson's house is much, much bigger and nicer. The Carsons have a tennis court and more land.

The Gosselins have yet to really keep up with the Carsons.

12/14/2008 10:13 AM

Unlike J & K Gosselin, the Carson's did NOT exploit their children as the means by which they acquired their home. As far as I am concerned, the Carson family could live in a 'box' and still be above J & K Gosselin.

Sally said...

Forgive me if I'm out of the loop, I'm new to watching the show and catching up.
I was watching an old episode that struck me as odd....

They only had the twins and on the 4th of July, they had a sign saying "Gosselin Twins" hanging on the stroller and the girls names under each of them.

I found it VERY odd to put your children's names on display like that, even back then.

my9cats said...

ThreeFarmers said...
...The Gosselins have yet to really keep up with the Carsons...

12/14/2008 10:13 AM

You are correct. IMO this is not the last house KON will own. The next will surpass all others, unless the $$$ runs out and they have to move in with their parents. Now that's an epi I'd watch!

One thing KON will never equal is the class the Carson's have.

DirtyDisher said...

I just want say to Kate that coloring a printed out page is not a "projek." Crayons should be available all the time with plain paper and color books. It's no big deal and no one out there is stupid enough to think a coloring page is a friggin' project. No one but you, Kate. Learning to color in the lines is like learning to sit, stand in line and raise your hand. It kills time, improves motor skills, but, it is not creative and certainly not a project. If she tells me that one more time, I'm going to fly there and stick gum in her ugly hair. What a moron!

Cindy said...

I would be devestated if they divorced.

cheryl said...

It was indicated when the book first came out- there would not be
a tour. When asked about Beth on
GMA, k responded a curt 'correct'.
Often small publishing firms ask that the authors pay them to publish a book- highly unlikely in this situation.
IMHO, expect their fall out happened last spring when supposively J was working for Bob,
which didn't pan out.

Harriet said...

Cindy, I hope for your sake, that you're able to reduce your emotional investiment in this family. Devastation is a tremendously strong emotion to feel for people we only know on TV. I'd feel a pang for the children, but I would certainly not be devastated. In fact sadly I won't even be able to manage shock if it occurs.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Janine,

I'm sure that Jon and Kate don't sleep together. Let's all remember that Kate has told Jon that he breathes too loud. I bet that he also snores. I would feel better knowing that Jon does sleep in the basement with Alexis. I doubt that Jon and Kate would ever admit that they don't sleep together.

After all, Kate needs her beauty sleep.

Moons in Leo said...

Cindy said...
I would be devestated if they divorced.

I am very curious why you would be?

aaww-my-bees said...

IMO, Kate is very well aware of the fact that SHE CAN predict her own future. It all began when she snagged an already spoken for 'Asian' man and quickly and methodically reproduced 8 money making off spring which in turn provided her the ego to demand the terms and conditions that would ultimately afford her 'economic security and the luxery of being a stay at home parent'.
=================================

Already spoken for? Did I miss this somewhere?

Breanna said...

aaww-my-bees, in the How We Met episode, they talked about meeting at a picnic. Kate saw Jon and knew she wanted to meet him. Jon had a girlfriend at the time, and they said after he and Kate met "she was gone the next day."
Wonder if Jon regrets that now?

Cindy said...

Divorce is a horrible thing to happen especially if children are involved. Why would anyone want that upon another family? Even if you knew them in real-life or on t.v.? I find that disturbing.

Breanna said...

Cindy, I don't remember anyone saying they WANTED them to divorce. I don't want them to divorce. However, I would not be surprised if they did. Episode after episode they look like they can hardly stand each other. Kate talks to Jon like he is a stray dog who wandered in her yard, not like the man she loves and wants to spend her life with. Jon won't even look at her when they do couch interviews. Not a marriage I see lasting, which is sad for the kids, but that is what I see

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Maybe the old girl-friend has been in touch with Jon, and that's why he's getting in shape, and trying to look good. Perhaps Kate feels like the old girl-friend is a threat, and that why Kate keeps telling the kids, that her and Jon will be together forever and ever.

Jon's body language says volumes about what he is thinking. He might even want to go back to work, to get out of the house and away from Kate. But Kate won't let him.

Cindy said...

Don't get me wrong. I see and hear all your points of view and since I have been catching up on all the old posts and reading pasts threads I understand what you're saying. I'm pissed to find out Jon doesn't have a job.
Also in return, I don't believe that they are "exploiting" their kids. I also believe them to be good parents.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

Breaana,

I see the same thing that you see with Jon and Kate. Divorce is a terrible thing, but what is worse, is for the children to witness an unhappy marriage. Not a good thing.

When Jon and Kate do the couch interview, I have noticed that Kate always seems to lean AWAY from Jon. They don't hold hands or seem affectionate to each other.

Divorce is a fact of life, and it happens to plenty of people. If divorce makes people happier, I say go for it.

We can't change yesterday, but we can change today and tomorrow.

We all deserve to be happy, whether it's being married or being single. :>)

Janine said...

3rd Rock from the Sun said:
Divorce is a terrible thing, but what is worse, is for the children to witness an unhappy marriage. Not a good thing.
When Jon and Kate do the couch interview, I have noticed that Kate always seems to lean AWAY from Jon. They don't hold hands or seem affectionate to each other.
Divorce is a fact of life, and it happens to plenty of people. If divorce makes people happier, I say go for it.
We can't change yesterday, but we can change today and tomorrow.
We all deserve to be happy, whether it's being married or being single.
_______
The animosity level between these two is off the charts. Jon is only 31; he was 23 when the twins were born and 27 when the tups came. If it were not for the show and the $$, I really think Jon would have left Kate long ago. He's unmotivated and lacks ambition, but because he's only
31, he still has a chance to create a new life for himself without Kate. This sham of a marriage with its contempt and hatred is unhealthy for KON as well as the kids and really, divorce could be a great option. Jon could still be involved with the kids. I bet Kate would snap if he even mentioned a divorce, though.

andrew said...

jon and kate plus 8 was on the soup last night

qtrfan said...

SmartyQ said....What does she think someone will do to her? Cut her hair so the sides are even?

HAHAHAHAHA

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Nomo1 said...

ToCindy said that Jon and Kate live in and are infamous in NEPA (abbreviation for Northeast Pennsylvania). They actually live in central/southern Pennsylvania. Hours away from NEPA, where I hardly think they are infamous. I also have to wonder about ToCindy's description of the children playing in the front yard of the "new house", which from the photos placed on this very website, show the yard to be very far away from the main road.

Janine said...

Cindy said:
Also in return, I don't believe that they are "exploiting" their kids. I also believe them to be good parents.
_______
Cindy, do you think they are "good parents" because the kids are well-fed, wear nice clothes, live in a nice home, and go on luxury vacations? If so, you are not seeing what is really happening here. The reason for the above is because the kids themselves are the moneymakers to have these things. Jon and Kate are using their kids for their own personal profit to live the grand life. They are, in plain words, sleazebags. Watch the show tomorrow with a more critical eye and see what you think.

Disney said...

A bit off topic...here goes anyway. Why do we watch (TIVO) the show? First of all, I can only watch it 10 minute increments, its just to icky. I watch the show for the train wreck that its become, to see if Jon is finally going to tell Kate to stuff it, to see if the kids will get some privacy, to finally get a chance to grow up a bit (no bibs, high chairs, etc.), to see if Mady & Cara get to do age apropriate activities, and if the children ever to get have friends over or go to their friends house. Also, will I ever see the lost people..Aunt Jodi, Beth, Kevin, etc. And why do you watch?

ThreeFarmers said...

Cindy,

To exploit is defined by Miriam-Webster as "to make use of for one's own advantage."

Jon and Kate use their children so that they can have show in order to become famous and support their family without actually having to have a job.

If you don't think Jon and Kate have used their children to their own advantage, just take a look at the home they lived in when the tups were born and compare it to the home they live in now.

2badsosad said...

ThreeFarmers said...
Cindy,

To exploit is defined by Miriam-Webster as "to make use of for one's own advantage."

Jon and Kate use their children so that they can have show in order to become famous and support their family without actually having to have a job.

If you don't think Jon and Kate have used their children to their own advantage, just take a look at the home they lived in when the tups were born and compare it to the home they live in now.

12/14/2008 6:32 PM

IF you dont think J & K have 'used' aka exploited their children, take a look at where J & K were just a mere 4 years ago. ALL acquired by USING to their advantage, the existance of their children, primarily that of the sextuplets.

Niki said...

Harriet said...There is also a bodyguard..you can see him in some of the pictures from the book signing.

*********

A fan shows pictures of the bodyguard inspecting a bag she gave Kate at a signing:

http://michellekemperbrownlowwrites4kids.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-met-kate-gosselin.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/6osdz6

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