Can You Name a Good Quality about Jon as a Parent?

We had Kate last week. This week let's see what people can think of for Jon.

74 comments:

Slainte said...

Jon shows the boys love-that is what puts him one notch above Kate for me.

AJ said...

He lets the kids be messy and be kids.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

He seems like a very hands-on father who isn't afraid to get messy or dirty (like you-know-who).

CincyMom said...

Jon appears to be very hands on with the kids and knows how to get out with them. He's not scared or intimidated by any of the tasks for caring for his kids.

He seems to enjoy each of them individually and I see a lot of love with them.

AllisonSarah said...

These are really interesting topics...

I'd have to say, Jon (usually) tries to listen to what his kids are saying, especially Mady and Cara. He's good about trying to understand what they're saying even when they're whining or crying.

He also lets them be kids. He doesn't worry about messes or their clothing or anything else that makes these children stilted and confined.

Also, I've got to hand it to him... he's put up with Kate for 9 years. I'm not sure many other men in this world could do that. I don't know whether that's sad or something to be admired.

mikemom said...

He does spend time interacting with the kids, ie, playing and encourages them to do things, like skiing, going to the top of the lighthouse, and going in the ocean with them.

jkaz said...

He seems to enjoy playing with the kids.

Karen said...

Jon actually plays with the kids---and it doesn't look forced or like he's just doing it for the camera.

Kate tends to treat the kids like animals that need to be fed, groomed and herded--Jon tends to actually act like the kids are people.

Like others have said, he's not worried about messes. He respects the kids' schedule (we are a schedule family, to a point) but doesn't obsess about it. Like that episode where they were putting the furniture together, he was of the opinion that the kids could, for ONE DAY, skip their nap and he could get all the furniture done that afternoon. We have skipped naps in similar situations, and you know what, Kate? The world doesn't end.

Jon is more relaxed and the kids respond to that, I think.

Lisa said...

Despite constantly being beaten down by Kate with her criticism & self-righteous nature, Jon seems to be patient and allow the children to be and act like children.

SueM said...

I think that Jon is a good father all things considered. He is hands on, he plays with them and I really think he tries not to play favorites. He shows love and affection to the boys more than Kate does. He is comforting and compassionate. He got big points from me when he took Joel off the laundry room floor and put him in &K's bed during the Joelgate episode.

goredsox said...

If Jon could just get away from Kate, who is a very toxic person, he could actually be ok.

He is very good with the kids and truly seems to enjoy/love them.

Unfortunately, Jon is not a leader and needs a good, honest, decent woman to steer him in the right direction.

GrammyPie said...

He helped poor Collin with his constipation problem, when his mother couldn't be bothered to be concerned about his distress. After all, the bunk beds needed her full attention.

ratherbkayaking said...

I believe that Jon likes to play rather than work. This is better than if they were both like Kate - the kids would never be allowed to play.

Gloria said...

1) Jon treats all of his children equally.
2) Jon lets the kids have fun, be normal kids, and doesn't flip out if they get dirty.
3) Jon provides the lion's share of care for the children - dressing, bathing, getting the twins off to school, driving them places. He is an involved father.
4) Jon seems to truly enjoy his kids.
5) Jon is the stabilizing force in the children's lives.

Jon has many deficits, but he is certainly by far the better parent in the Gosselin household.

Cyndy said...

He is very unusual as a father and a husband. When they were infants in diapers he would change their diapers every morning. He is the one who bathes them every night. He does a large majority of the "hands on" parenting. I truly love Jon and feel very sad that Kate has beat him down to almost nothing.

beachchick said...

I like how he makes sure the children know their race and are proud of their heritage. that's rare when the grandparents are not around.

DirtyDisher said...

For a lazy no job smartass with a mean biotch wife, he seems to like the kids sometimes. I also like the way he smirks when Kate's being ridiculous.

downtheroad said...

Jon is a very good father. He is the one who provide the hands on day to day care. Even when he worked outside the home he still did A LOT of the child care.

I don't think Jon "need to grow a pair" or "stand up to Kate"...

why, because it simply wouldn't work. I think he knows that she must feel like she is in control at all times. I think for the sake of the children he goes along with kate. What are his options? Fight all the time with Kate or just say "Ok, Honey"...or "how may I help you honey!"....

Sad but true.

Kate Must Go said...

Jon is funny ("when I twitch my shoulders it is a shout out to my peeps") at times and is easy going.

Jon seems equally interested in all 8 of his kids and treats them like human beings and not like a burden, as does his wife.

I think if we could eliminate Kate from the family Jon would make sure the kids were well cared for in every way that counts, and I think he would automatically "grow a pair" and be a decent role model for his boys.

SillyNotAFan said...

He doesn't tell his crying kids that he doesn't want to hear them breathe.

He doesn't flip out over a little gum ( although he didn't defend Jodi either ).

He doesn't throw toys downstairs or threaten the kids because a knob isn't where it should be.

I feel kind of sorry for the guy. He probably would'nt have gone down the path of unrighteousness with this exploitation/ no job/ freebie thing if he weren't married to a rude, toxic shrew.

jodifur said...

Jon has a lot of patience and is very fun and enjoys playing with his children.

HW said...

Not only does Jon let the kids have fun; but he also genuinely seems to have fun being with them.
He has said many times "I just wanted to have fun with my kids" or similar statements.
He is building fond memories for his children by this easy going attitude.

Tami said...

He does things with the kids Kate refuses to do like rollerskate, teach them to ride bikes, go down water slides, etc, etc. What DOES she do anyway?? He tells her too bad when she'd rather clean (or have him clean) the garage than play. He does not insist they go to bed at 6:30 pm. He went on all the days with all the kids when Kate only went with girls..but that could have just been because Kate insisted.

Jonisgreatwithoutkate said...

I think Jon is actually ok. He is the only stable adult in the house (besides maybe some of the camera crew). He plays with the kids.
I think Jon should be a SAHD and Kate should get up off her duff and go to work even though the thought of her being a nurse scares me to death.

ClevelandRocks said...

Jon doesn't play favorites with the kids. He seems to genuinely enjoy being on trips with them rather than just looking for the nearest spa. He listens to the kids. He doesn't make them go to bed at 6:30. I honestly think that if Kate had a full time job outside of the home and Jon was a full time SAHD, he'd be happy and the kids would be well cared for. Most importantly, the kids seem so much happier and carefree with Jon than they do with Kate, I guess when there's no risk of being told you are ruined, you let yourself be less guarded.

ThreeFarmers said...

I think Jon understands the importance of interacting with his children without the use of a white plastic lawn chair, however, I think he sometimes seems resentful that he is the only parent doing so.

heidiiiii said...

I agree with what others have said. Jon is a rare bird. He does the lions share of taking care of the kids and he does not favor one over the others.
I love how he gets his digs in with the eye rolls and smirks when Kate is talking.
She says this but you look at Jon`s face and you know the REAL truth..LOL

Breanna said...

For one, Jon looks like he actually gives a damn about the kids, unlike Kate. He is a hands on parents, giving baths, changing diapers, playing with them, etc. He treats the kids the same and does not play favorites.

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I like seeing Jon playing with the kids. I remember my own dad playing with me when I was little. Those are memories that you keep with you forever. I also like that Jon does let them be kids. He lets them eat fast food and get dirty too. Jon is really the MAIN care giver to those kids, not Kate. I have a feeling, that the kids will have a relationship in the future with Jon, but not with Kate.

Wendy Bird said...

Although Jon is immature and wishy-washy, I think that he is the better parent. It seems to have come naturally to him.

Unfortunately, Kate's influence becomes more and more obvious with each new episode. Together they mock and make fun of the children, and rather that address the issue when Joel didn't want to kick the dirty soccer ball, he made a passive-aggressive attack against Kate out of her earshot.

I love that he plays with the children and seems to truly enjoy it most of the time.

sherbabe said...

If you watch The Soup on E network, you saw that they aired one of the Gossleins confessionals, they made fun of it. The host was spot on with his comments. Anyone else, see it?

Corsage said...

He is mellow and laid back and encourages the kids to get messy. Remember the Crayols Trip? I am trying to forget it but he even said to Kate: "Can't these kids have fun?" Kate's reply: "Not these kids." Oy. And on when he took the boys golfing he said to them: "Geez, you mother has you so brainwashed about stains."

FXfanatic said...

I saw the Soup last night. It was a riot! He portrayed Jon as the "hapless, hen-pecked husband".
Love that show.

Jon truly loves ALL HIS CHILDREN and is laid-back when his Mom, I mean Kate isn't around.

Jon does not seem like a happy man. He's "stuck" for a long, long time with a shrew of a woman who tightly holds his testicles in her very expensive Coach purse.

GrammyPie said...

Another thought about Jon. Kate is the one who wanted to try "for just one more". Jon was content with just the twins. They obviously got the tups, instead of just one, and who is the better parent? Not the one who wanted more children, but the one who accepted them, as the little miracles they are. I don't always think Jon is making fun of his kids, just enjoying some of the funny things they say and do. He definatly has the patience of Job when it comes to Kate.

Denise said...

I think Jon does pretty well considering he has to counteract Kate's horrible parenting.

Do you realize he had just turned 27 when he had 8 kids??

Gregory House said...

He can teach his children about having a good work ethic... oh wait...

He can teach his sons how to pick a good woman... oh wait...

He can show his kids how important educati... crap. I got nothin'.

Moons in Leo said...

I think we as a society have lower standards for fathers than mothers when it comes to deciding what determines a good parent.

We're only a couple of generations away from the Ozzie & Harriet mentality. Harriet didn't work outside the home, but neither did Ozzie. He was always hanging out at the soda shoppe.

Jon may play with the kids and let them get dirty, but I think he's really just a bigger kid himself.

He and Kate are IMO the most immature couple ever to spawn and capitalize on their fertility.

The bottom line is he and his wife have chosen the 'easy' way out for themselves, and that is by pimping out their offspring so they don't have to hold down anything resembling a job.

Sad and pathetic.

2badsosad said...

I simply cannot find any 'good' parenting qualities in a man that exploits his children for monetary and personal gain! None, Zero, Nadda!

lisa.k. said...

Jon is just an all around better parent than Kate. He seems to have a lot more patience with the kids than Kate.

BostonBean said...

He is more easy-going, which is what they need, having a neurotic person for a mother!

that's all I got said...

He has not slapped his wife and the mother of his children on national tv.

WENDY said...

He plays with his children and actually has fun with them.

Disney said...

Is Jon a better parent than kate? If the choice is between a grade of D+ or F, should the children have to accept a D+ parent? Or should Jon take parenting classes to improve and be the really good parent (A) that he has the potential to be?

I'd rather poke my eye out... said...

If the children said to him today, "Dad, I don't want to do this show anymore..." I believe he would stop, unlike Kate who would disown them and make them do it anyway.

Other than that- Basically what other's have said- he lets the kids get messy and be kids.

vbmomof2boys said...

Jon is hands-on as a parent and does stuff that many fathers would probably refuse to do if asked (bathing, dressing, feeding, taking care of the 8 kids while mom is away for a few days on "business").

However, he also has his faults, and if we had to choose the better of the two parents, it would be like choosing the lesser of two evils.

music_girl said...

I think he is a devoted husband and father...

Tammy H. said...

Jon is the better of the two when it comes to parenting. Kate blames the reason she is so high strung on her upbringing. I don't fall for that. My father was brought up without a dad and his mother was God knows where so at the age of 9, he was getting himself up for school, fixing his breakfast, doing good in school, and an all star basketball player...He became a General MGR over a large well known company while running his own business and him and my mother have everything they need and want (but they worked for it)..and he never treated us the way Kate does her kids. I know Kate's younger years do not come close to what my dad went through, so as we know, that's just another excuse from the Queen B.
Jon is so loving towards all the kids, he does lose his temper but what parent doesn't? He doesn't show that he has favorites and he doesn't sit on his butt barking orders. He has given all the kids baths since they came home from the hospital, he is the first up in the morning to get the kids ready-cause we all know, Kate isn't a morning person-he gets out in the yard and has a good time with all of them. He is a real good father, Kate doesn't hold a candle to him. Kate would like for us to think she is the better parent, she has even wanted him to agree with her (while being interviewed) that he wouldn't want her job. He wouldn't agree...but Kate is very persistant until she gets the answer she wants..She wants all the recognition for raising the kids, but if you pay close attention, she is always yelling at Jon to "do this for Hannah or do that for Collin, or get their clothes on them, walk Cara and Mady to the bus, hurry and take them to pre-k" No matter what Kate thinks, Jon is the primary parent with a very loving heart and does so much for those kids...when he's not on one of the many trips he has been taking lately. I bet Beth or Jodi could tell us some real good stories about what the camera didn't see...I would buy that book. I still am against the way that Jon has let his kids be pimped out by Kate. I am sure this whole thing was her idea and she got her "whipping boy" to go along with it!

debi said...

He's also a father that shows his kids that it's ok to let their mom treat him like a dog. Chances are this in turn will be the way they treat their spouses because they won't know any better.

Janine said...

I like that Jon doesn't ALWAYS complain like his whiner of a wife about how hard and exhausting being a parent is. He does the major majority of all the parenting (except the yellling, Kate does enough of that for the both of them) and we rarely complain about it.

I think the biggest difference between him and Kate as parents is that he is actually stepping up, doing all the acual hands-on parenting while she just continues to be lazy and delegate all her parenting to Jon and the nannies.

I think that he actually ENJOYS being a parent, he actually LIKES spending time with his children, he loves for them to have experiences NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE WEARING!

I think he is a pretty good husband, he pretty much does whatever Kate tells him to do, which some women like. Its obvious she likes to be control, and in some acpects I think he is a good husband TO HER for letting her have the control. I mean, to me, I think he should step up, take control, and lead his family in the right direction (which would be leading them to not have cameras in their faces anymore), but I dont think that is going to happen.

I think he is attractive, and I am glad the kids look like him.

chocoboat said...

I think he's a great dad. He has fun with his kids and lets them get messy once in a while. Amazingly he doesn't get too upset at Kate's occasional craziness, and he likes the weird stuff like the "love slaps". He also clearly loves Kate. In fact, I can't really think of anything negative about him.

One thing I happened to remember, in an early episode he was talking about his hair and how he'll just shave it off if the hair loss got much worse. Most guys wouldn't bring up that topic, and some would be trying to hide it. But Jon's comfortable with who he is and isn't concerned about things like that.

Once the boys are old enough to play sports they're going to have a great time with him (like Cara has on occasion).

chocoboat said...

to "I'd rather" -

That's a good point... I think if the kids (obviously it would be Mady, the tups love the camera crew and Cara wouldn't speak up first) said she's had enough, Jon would do something about it right away.

I also think Kate would do the same if Mady/Cara were clear about it, but she would probably make some efforts to convince them to keep doing it, or perhaps have them edited out of the show.

damagedgoods said...

Jon doesn't (seem to) put his own neuroses on the kids. Sure he's been shown to raise his voice. Most of us parents do at times. He seems infinitely more patient with them though and doesn't lose sight of the fact that kids ARE kids and kids NEED TO BE kids.

pinkdiamond611 said...

It was Jon who made Mady put the bibs on the tups in the last show. He does not encourage them to get messy. He just doesn't want to hear them freaking out when they do get messy. I have to say that I think he is the worse parent, because he allows the children to endure stuff he doesn't agree with,but he goes along with it becauses he enjoys the lifestyle. I think Jon loves the vacations. That was the lifestyle he had when his Daddy and Mommy took care of him. He needs to grow up, get a college education.

Tami said...

I think he's a great dad. He has fun with his kids and lets them get messy once in a while. Amazingly he doesn't get too upset at Kate's occasional craziness, and he likes the weird stuff like the "love slaps". He also clearly loves Kate. In fact, I can't really think of anything negative about him.

One thing I happened to remember, in an early episode he was talking about his hair and how he'll just shave it off if the hair loss got much worse. Most guys wouldn't bring up that topic, and some would be trying to hide it. But Jon's comfortable with who he is and isn't concerned about things like that.
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It is amazing you think he doesn't get upset at her craziness and that enjoys being slapped. That sounds like something someone would say to defend domestic abuse. There are lots and lots of negative things about him, just slightly fewer than Kate. You do realize he brought up the hair loss so he could get free hair plugs, right? Most women would not show their stomachs if it looked like Kate's, but for free tummy tucks, hey...They constantly beg for freebies. That someone misses any of it is astounding really.

LauraJean said...

I think Jon is the worse parent because he sits back and allows his children to be harmed emotionally because of his own self serving needs. That certainly is not putting your child's interests first, Kate is just plain crazy but I think Jon knows right from wrong and he puts up with the wrong.

Teacher_Mommy said...

Jon does what Kate doesn't want to do for herself....

* He changed the babies' diapers when they first woke up.

* He used to get Mady and Cara on the bus every morning.

* He is nicer to the boys than Kate is.

* He allows the kids to get dirty.

* Occasionally (very occasionally) he will stand up to Kate and allow his kids to do things that normal kids get to do.

That's all. The list should be longer.

Carrie said...

I think Jon, like many dads, is the "fun" parent. Let me explain. A lot of dads who work full time want to have fun with their kids when they get home from a long day of work. If Mom is a SAHM, then she, by default, does a lot of the discipline and teaching during the day, and Dad gets to have the fun. (This is NOT to say that those roles are always the same.) I think Jon got into that role when he was working, and now that he's home, he hasn't gotten out of it. Unfortunately, that leaves no one to actually guide and direct the kids.

I do also think that Jon is willing to take on a lot of the hands-on things with the kids including dressing and changing them. I don't know if he wants to, or if he just knows that if he doesn't the house will descend into chaos while Kate shrieks.

Chris said...

IMHO Jon would be a great parent if he could get rid of Kate and take some parenting classes. He's got great instincts. He plays with the kids and doesn't mind if they get dirty. He's changed more than his share of diapers and wiped more than his share of butts. He treats the kids equally. He does have to learn that he is the adult, not just an overgrown playmate.

Moons in Leo said...

Carrie said:
I think Jon got into that role when he was working, and now that he's home, he hasn't gotten out of it. Unfortunately, that leaves no one to actually guide and direct the kids.


I don't think Jon has worked more than five minutes since the tups were born. Don't believe he was part of the working class long enough to have developed any habits.

dotsicle said...

Jon is young at heart and appears to thoroughly enjoy his kids.

Aunt Bee said...

I like Jon, but I do feel he has changed a lot since he quit going to work. He is less patient than he used to be. His little kids do love him. I wish he could stand up to Kate and make things right for his family.

Tangerine Tanya said...

The majority of us agree that Jon is a very involved parent who clearly loves his children. One thing that I DONT like about Jon is the way that he allow's Maddy and Kate to talk to him. It is one thing to love your wife and children but it another to allow your child to out and out act very disrespectful....That is part of the job as a parent...TO TEACH.

Dew said...

Excluding his participation in this madness, I think Jon is otherwise a decent father. He is genuinely excited to share the things he loves to do with his kids, while at the same time never forcing on them something they don't want to do. Be it Cara picking up skiing or the boys coming to the gym with him, or taking everyone camping, he wants everyone to have fun together and tries to include everyone. Some fathers like to go off and do things without the kids, like golf, drinking with the buddies, watching the game. Jon always acts like he would rather just include his kids, like he really believes he'll have more fun if they're there anyway. It's nice.

yay! for babies! said...

Something nice about Jon (and Kate) as parents is that they chose to have all 6 kids, even though they were given the option of not.

Weed said...

I think Jon has a wonderful relationship with all his children - he plays with them, he lets them get dirty, he doesn't think the boys are icky and I really haven't seem him belittle Kate, as she does him, in front of the children. Except for the stick up the butt comment. I honestly think Jon could handle it and do well without Kate in the picture - she tends to bring the whole family down. You can see alittle piece of Jon dying right in front of you everytime they have their couch interviews and she rags on him. Any other couple like that and the man would have walked or kick the chick to the curb. I honestly don't know why he puts up with it - it can't be for the kids 'cause it doesn't do them any good seeing that day in, day out. That's worse than actually having your parents divorce - trust me, been there, done that with my mom and dad and also with my first marriage. To stay together for the "sake of the children" is hog-wash. I think Jon would be a wonderful "single" father - he would put the needs of his children first and I think he'd end this charade of a tv show.

Lulu said...

Jon's involved! He plays with them! He shows affection towards his SONS. He LISTENS to the kids....if he can hear them over Kate.

Michelle said...

I think Jon is a pretty good father. Especially without Kate at his side nagging at him and yelling at him in public from the other side of a room or store. He lets the kids be kids, he has fun with them.

Charlotte in PA said...

I don't think Jon is a good father at all. How could you stand by, regardless of how afraid you are of your wife, and allow your kids to be exploited like he has? It is like watching your children be abused by another parent day after day and not do anything. Just because YOU didn't do the actual abuse doesn't make you any less guilty! He needs to be a man and a father to those children and tell Kate exactly where to shove her fertility drugs and stop the madness.

Time after time we hear how what we see on TV is just a glimpse of what really goes on.... well, Jon, you have the power to stop it.

Something tells me the money means a heck of a lot more though! :(

So very sad!

mkb77 said...

He plays with them and let's them get dirty!

Gloria said...

Charlotte in PA said, "How could you stand by, regardless of how afraid you are of your wife, and allow your kids to be exploited like he has?"

He does it because he is lazy and doesn't want to work himself. Because he has no ambition. And because he got used to his daddy handing him things on a silver platter without having to work for them and he likes it.

noteasybeingstupid said...

Compared to Kate as a mother, Jon is an excellent father. Compared to a good father, he is an inadequate father.

I'm not sure if that makes sense or not but I know what I am trying to say!!!!

mollybloom said...

If a person looks good because he or she is being compared to the mess-that-is Kate Gosselin, it's faint praise indeed. Jon, watch On the Waterfront and repeat: "I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am." 'Nuff said.

Hollie23 said...

I like that he is laid back, It's important kids don't feel stressed by the parents depending on what mood they are in.

Arieslikekate said...

I see JON does a lot of things like build tents, wipe noses , and just try and get some of QUEENIE's anger directed at him instead of at the children.