Viewers' Top Moments Recap

In their latest attempt to spin Kate into the poor, misunderstood single mom and Jon into the world’s worst father, TLC decided to treat us to yet another clip show with very little of the kids, but heavy on Kate. Cuz the other 10 they’ve put together haven’t been bad enough, they let the viewers vote on this one. Or so they claim, I’m not sure I believe them... they have been known to lie on occasion. continue

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fostersmom said...

In their latest attempt to spin Kate into the poor, misunderstood single mom and Jon into the world’s worst father, TLC decided to treat us to yet another clip show with very little of the kids, but heavy on Kate. Cuz the other 10 they’ve put together haven’t been bad enough, they let the viewers vote on this one. Or so they claim, I’m not sure I believe them... they have been known to lie on occasion.

We start with a montage of Kate screaming at Jon, spliced with shots of the kids, and her telling us this is the top 10 viewer moments and she’s dreading what she’s going to have to talk about. Why would that be? Can’t stand to see your behavior on TV? Yeah, well, neither can we. Suck it up, Buttercup. She finishes up the intro sounding as phony and fake as ever “Oh, precious moments,” she coos.

Excuse me while I hurl.

So we start with a TLC website pimpage. That’s where the supposed voting took place. Since I avoid their site like the plague, I guess I will have to go along with this and pretend this is true voting and not at all fixed results. Not like it really matters anyway. We will, and have always, see what TLC wants us to see.

First up.... Biggest Blow-Up. There’s so many to choose from here. Toys R Us, Kate saying she’s going to shoot Jon for not taking a coupon to buy crap for the McMansion, screaming across the Crayola Factory, screaming that the kids aren’t allowed to play in the grass at the ice cream place. And do slaps to Jon’s face count in this category? I’m talking literal and not figurative on that one. Runner up is the coupon, she’s in fine form in that one and it’s obvious Jon is over her crap. She goes right into justifying her actions, coupons are so important, blah, blah, blah. She says she overreacted, she apologized, and that’s something she’s trying to change about herself. I bet if TLC would have let Jon speak he would have had a lot to say about this one. Another runner up is when Jon told her to pull the stick out (of her ass). Ahh... a long time favorite among us. She’s none too thrilled it was picked. Again, more justifications of her behavior, and she throws Jon under the bus, rolls her eyes about him, says poor choice of words and adds a snide “imagine that.” I’m five minutes into the hour and I’m sensing where this fiasco is heading. More Jon bashing and then isn’t she cute, she stage whispers “Perhaps it was a sign of things to come.” Of what? Jon standing up to you and you couldn’t deal? I’ll go with that. She laughs and flirts with the camera guy. And the winner is? Toys R Us. She’s all fake exasperated that this is included. She asks how many time they will rehash it. My guess is until it isn’t quite so ugly and demoralizing to Jon. You don’t remember that one? She tells Jon to stand with his cart, or rather barks orders at him, and tells him to sit, stay, and roll over there at the check out line. Again, she’s justifying her behavior, his behavior annoyed her. So then we get the screaming “Hello, we’re over here! COME!” Yes, Jon did what he was told, but couldn’t read Kate’s mind and got screamed at like a dog. More justifications and how it was all Jon’s fault. Oh, and she learned from it, never yelled at Jon again in public. That’s a blatant lie, we’ve seen plenty of her screaming at him since then.

fostersmom said...

Cutest Kid Moment is up next. Alexis giving all sorts of kisses is shown. Collin pulling the other kids in the Cozy Coupe car and wagon is another runner up. And the winner is Alexis saying Mommy, Mommy when Kate came back from her free tummy tuck. Ironically they also show her kissing Leah and telling her she never wants to miss a week of her life again. Boy, that lasted what, a whole year? Kate’s missed more weeks of these kids lives than I can count. What, the viewers didn’t think Kate not going on the boys special days was cute? How about a sick Joel being put on the laudry room floor and shut away until Jon came home and moved him? Or maybe when the boys cowered in fear as she screamed in their little faces about a drawer knob and threw the toy grill down the steps? Although Collin’s little happy dance after she left the room was cute, that could have been included.

Top Ouchie Moment is #8 on their list. Oh lord, this could be a disaster of a category. One of the runner ups is the kids hitting each other. We get a whole montage of the kids beating each other in the head, pushing each other over, smacking, and all around abusing their siblings. Next runner up is Nala’s surgery. Did voting occur before Kate shipped the dogs away? She bitches that it cost $2000 and she’s still not over that. Yeah, that’s what was important. The number one Ouchie moment was when Alexis bit through her lip while tripping through the woods. How about when she let Collin suffer in pain from having impacted bowels so she could pick out beds they didn’t need (those cribs they had were convertible beds and changed into toddler and then full sized beds)? That should have made the top Ouchie moment. Let’s call Jon and see if he can list a few slaps to the face for this category too. All those little pinches and smacks we’ve seen or shots of the wooden spoon were left out.

Number seven is top Family Milestones. Kate claims this one is all about travel. Yeah, I know, insert your own comment about that here. We have Joel riding his bike down the street at the old house. Another runner up is when they camped out at the old house. We get a campfire, them eating S'mores, and Joel biting the glow stick. Suspiciously absent is when it started raining and Mady and Cara asked to be let in Kate’s tent and she turned them away, sending them to run across the wet yard, in the dark, to get even wetter, to go sleep in Jon’s tent. The top Family Milestone was the tups first dentist visit. Missing from this one is Alexis sobbing uncontrollably. Those editing fairies are sure taking liberties with these moments. My vote for this category? When the tups turned 4, didn’t get a party, but did go to the bakery to make cupcakes. Although the boys looked to eat more dinner than Hannah (who Kate spoon fed), none of the boys got their birthday cupcakes and all the girls did. Happy birthday, boys!

Cutest Kid saying is next on the list. Alexis and her “aldergator” made this one. Alexis looks to be a fan favorite. Joel’s “Daddy’s have wieners” was also a runner up. And the top is Leah reporting that Hannah pooped in Hannah’s unnerwears. Hannah and Joel will just love this category when they get older. I’ll nominate the time the twins told Kate the Crayola place would have been more fun without her since Kate wouldn’t let Mady or Cara have any fun. Hmm... Jon and Kate’s fight there could have been in the biggest blow up category too. Don’t forget, Kate’s kids aren’t allowed to use washable markers or have fun. I. Want. A. Bagel. didn’t make the list either. Or Mady asking for water before an interview starts to only be blown off by Kate, who then takes a huge swig of her own water. "You’re mean, Mommy" would have made any list I put together. It’s only by miracle that none of the kids started repeating Kate, calling Jon fat or bald, those could have made this list.

fostersmom said...

In a completely stupid category, we have top Family Portrait. Um, how did this get to be a category? Kate’s favorite is the fall picture taken at Beth and Bob’s home. Remember Beth and Bob? Kate doesn’t. She never mentions them at all, or when she ripped Jon a new one about the outfits while getting ready for that picture. To make this category even worse, second runner up is the Good Housekeeping magazine cover. You know, when it was about 95 degrees out, they put the kids in heavy sweaters to swelter, and Mady and Cara looked completely miserable. And then did it all over again the next day in a studio. Good times. First runner up is Kate taking a picture on the first day of school... on her iPhone. Oh yeah, that’s special. And the winner is a truly horrible winner, the photo of Jon, Kate, and the newborn tups in strollers all in front of their first house. What? Where’s the twins, you ask? Certainly not in the picture that Kate sobbed over and raved about, right in front of Mady and Cara. I’m sure that’s a top memory for the twins.

Boy, we’re really stretching to get to ten here. Most Heartwarming moment is number four. Runner up is that lame garage sale Kate said was for pediatric cancer research. Kate trying to sell the Christmas ornaments Jon’s father had bought for Mady and Cara wasn’t shown. So what if their beloved grandfather has died, those ornaments dared to drop glitter on the carpet! The nerve! I seem to remember Kate screaming orders at Jon in that episode. Also serving as a runner up is the St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital episode. The one where Kate compared her bedrest while pregnant, a completely voluntary action (the pregnancy, not the bedrest) to children battling horrific diseases. Always self aware, our Kate. The winner in this one is Hannah saying good bye to her siblings. Half the kids were left at Beth’s, and Hannah wasn’t in that half. She had kisses for all before she went where ever she was going. Anyone remember what trip Jon and Kate were off to in that episode? They’ve been on so many that I can’t remember anymore.

Hey, a category with endless options! Most Memorable Meltdowns! Since there’s about 100 options for this one, I won’t even try to guess. Kate guesses that the princess ice cream meltdown will make the list and it does as one of the runner ups. Who can forget Kate screaming “She’s ruined!” after Alexis got ice cream on her shirt, in the blistering sun, at Disney World. OMG! Life is over. In even more of an ugly moment, the next “memory” was Gumgate. Poor Collin, poor Mady, poor Aunt Jodi. A speck of gum of course meant Kate had to rage at Collin, threaten to throw away his teddy bear blanket, have him in tears, upset Mady who was begging her not to throw it away, and then call Aunt Jodi to bitch at her. Kate again justifies her actions, says all parents have done things like that, but really she was right cuz it was gum. She says she didn’t realize she’s had so many melt downs. Um, Kate, they’ve barely scratched the surface. And the worst meltdown was the plane ride to Utah where Kate started crying on the plane as the kids were screaming and sobbing. In a new twist of editing, TLC blurs Steve’s face out in this showing. He’s sitting right behind Kate on the plane. Also an option coming out of Utah could have been Kate claiming she had such a horrible headache, the worst headache of her life, that she couldn’t spend time with her kids... but could go to the spa with Beth not too much later.

fostersmom said...

This is sure to be Kate’s favorite category, number two is Best Family Trip. As with the last category, this one also has about 100 options. Jon’s 30th birthday trip to the Keys is included. In a shocking twist, Kate actually manages to get thru the segment without badmouthing Jon. I know! I was surprised too. Runner up was Disney World. As the producer tells this to Kate she lets out a huge rude yawn. Kate lays the ground work and says she would like to take them back when they are older (hint, hint, hint). She’s completely bored with this viewer choice and is like “whatever” and wants to move on. The biggest scam for a free trip ever, the Hawaii “remarriage” is number one in this category. This is edited like a regular old family vacation. We get a brief shot of them in their wedding clothes, but the words wedding or marriage are never used once. Wonder why? But Kate does add that she needs to go back to Hawaii.

Finally, the last category. We have Most Shocking Moment as the number one category. Kate can’t imagine what’s in this list. Oh, silly Kate. Her giant pregnant belly is a runner up. She manages not to be a complete martyr in her couch interview. The other runner up in this category is Kate’s tummy tuck before and after. Wow, that worked out so conveniently for TLC (wink, wink). We get a long rambling bit about how production had to talk her into showing them her stomach before the surgery. Kate claims the tummy tuck was the best thing to ever happen to her in her life, besides her kids. We get a shot of Kate on the treadmill to go along with this and she brags that she has a 4 pack and will get a 6 pack. Who voted on this list? The number one shocking moment was them announcing their divorce on TV. Shockingly bad decision to televise it, maybe. Shocking that it was coming, certainly not. We are treated to that shot of Kate’s filthy feet we all loved the first time around when they announced the divorce.

Kate wraps up the show by completely throwing Jon to the wolves. She starts with they were young, they had a lot of stressful life events, and then moves on to saying that she hasn’t changed. She’s still the same person she always was. She says Jon became a person that he wasn’t. We get another Kate heavy montage. It’s so very apparent that TLC is pinning their hopes on Kate. Cara and Mady were yet again nonexistent in this, Jon was only included when Kate was yelling at him, and the tups were bit players. The producer asks if she agrees with all the top 10s and she says she does, heavy sigh, it’s memories, sigh again. Oh poor, poor Kate. Give me a break, TLC.

I can’t wait for this show to end.

anotherthing... said...

Wow, Fostermom!!!!! LOve your Recaps everytime, and this one really is great!!!! I'm so appreciative that you would risk your sanity for all of us and watch it to recap it for us. :)

Sounds like TLC has out done themselves with the kate-crap-fest 09. What a sham/e.

I cant even begin to process how outlandish it all is in order to rip it to shreds. I will, dont get me wrong. But it sure is a lot of crap to have to sift through in order to properly 'analyze'.

I suppose I could start with 'The Biggest Blow Up' mess.... lol

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

Reading your recap was the only thing that made watching this show (and unfortunatley REWATCHING tonight in between other TLC shows) halfway bearable. Great job and all so true.

Just sign me more disgusted than ever....

Mom of Sons said...

Foster's Mom, another great recap - thank you!

Apparently they did not have a 'most creative scene steal tactic' category, as Kate would've easily won this competition with so many contending examples: how she supposedly got sunburned on Jon's birthday trip, requiring that the birthday boy spend his birthday trip taking care of HER. Again.

The Mothers' Day when, instead of Jon getting kudos for making her b'fast & getting the kids ready for church, it was, as always, all about Kate, who, bragged about what a good faker she is (pretending to be asleep FOR THE KIDS), and bellowing "JOOOOON! Rescue me!" (from none other than those kids she loves more than any mother has ever loved their children).

Jon doing all the work in preparation for the backyard camp out with zero kudos. Instead we had to hear Kate whine about needing to sleep on an air mattress because 'what if a stone on the ground punctured her back' (Way to be Can Do, Kate).

Could've been a fun ice cream trip that day, focusing on the kids enjoying their outing, but, once again, the ugly focus was on Kate in full on Succubus Mode, screaming about the boys trying to roll down a grassy slope - And I will end there, though the list is endless. Recalling those 3 little boys trying to roll down a hill WITHOUT THEIR BOTTOMS TOUCHING THE GRASS so that Mommie Dearest would not have to (gasp in horror) clean a grass stain or two, haunts me to this day. Boys aren't icky dirty, Kate, they are spontaneous, joyful, adventurous, and FUN. Things that you, Kate, can never hope to be.

Be gone, S-Kate-an, your pitchfork in Hades awaits.

chesterctymom said...

Thanks for taking one for the team fostermom!!! You're a stronger person than I am for watching...

NoUse4Kate said...

"Suck it up, Buttercup."


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Best line I have read in a while. ROFL!

For the Moment? said...

Good job as always, I think you girls need to go pro. You manage to find humor where none exists otherwise (except in Kate's mind...she laughed at herself oh so many times--the woman thinks she is hi-lar-i-ous).

dustilies said...

Thank you fostersmom! Great laughs to start out my workday.

I did catch the last few minutes of the show, and had forgotten until then about that large wooden plaque in the middle of the kitchen table. What does it say? Is it a bible verse? Is it a saying like "Hands to work, Hearts to God?" is it a word-wish, like "love" or "peace"?

No, its an order: Plan Ahead.

And that sums up the core of Kate's neurotic, anxious, whacko behavior. She can't let anybody live in the present moment. Can't enjoy the happy discovery that there's a good rolling hill near an ice cream place, because we have to think ahead about hypothetical laundry issues and the horribly horrendous task of spraying freebie stain remover on 3-6 outfits.

Ironically, Kate is one of the poorest planners of kids' activities I've ever seen--always reactive, not proactive. So instead of thinking through a way to make marshmallow roasting safer (like waiting till the flames die down to hot embers), she has to scream and flap her hands and make the kids uptight, confused, and frustrated.

Kat_momof3 said...

it sounds like they ignored the ones we would have picked for the most part... but then, I know it was all sheeple who voted and even then, I doubt votes were actually counted in this.

I'm sure Katie Irene had say over what was "not acceptable" as an option.

I hate that they didn't ask Jon if he wanted to be a part of this one... I'm sure as it isn't new footage, he would have agreed to sign on.

HW said...

Actually I believe Kate hasn't changed. She's always been a mean spirited, demeaning, selfish person who uses others then throws them away. It is obvious even in their earliest specials, such as the time Jon is changing all the babies' diapers and she comes in the room and says "it doesnt' seem like you're making much progress." She's always been a shrew and still is.

Jon, on the other hand, did change. Probably from viewing the episodes and finally being able to look "from the outside in" he realized that his wife was abusing him and he wanted to change the daily attacks and finally stand up for himself.

Claire said...

Just so I'm clear: fans of this show actually have favorite scenes of Kate abusing Jon. Wow.

ToTheMoonAlice said...

I think I've reached a new threshold of Can't-take-Kate-ness...It annoys me just to READ about her...and fostermom is an amusing, talented writer! But as I read the recap, I could feel myself getting aggravated with old Possum-Head, just as I did when I used to watch the show...which hasn't been for many months now. Could Kate be THAT toxic?!?!

Why, yes...yes she could...

mkh mommy said...

5 STARS, re-cappers--thanks for always adding humor to my day!!!

JoseM said...

thank you for the recap. I have not watched any of the new episodes, primarily because they are very boring, and thus I have relied on this site and the AWESOME recaps we get. Thank you, I feel like I did not miss out on much by not watching. Great job :)

CSK(can'tstandKate) said...

This is the first time I am actually commenting - I have only watched the show maybe twice but I come here constantly for the recaps and let me tell you they have me laughing out loud every time I read them!!! Just wanted to say thanks I needed that LOL!!!

Moi said...

Great recap. These recaps are always much better than the actual show.

Cheetah said...

Perhaps the viewers should have been able to pick the categories too. Some ideas are:

- Biggest contradictions
(Hannah wants long hair; Kate later refuses to allow Hannah to get her hair cut)
- Top lies told to children
(Mommy and Daddy will always be together)
- Top lies told to audience
(Alexis sleeping alone in basement when really Jon was sleeping there; we don't have a nanny)
- Kate's rudest moments
(too many to choose from)
- Favorite friends and family members that have since been discarded
- Biggest moments of snobbery
- Top examples of babifying the sextuplets
(bibs until age 5)
- Biggest "I can't believe a parent would do that" moments
(leaving sick children to go get free hair plugs; shopping for beds while Collin was in such discomfort; putting Joel on the laundry room floor; I could go on and on)

debbiejo said...

I meant to say everyone else are planets, not plants! :)

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

Thanks Fostersmom. I like that the top moments you remember and suggest are ones that I also remember...and more. Thanks also because not many normal people could stomach an hour of Katie "I". (aka: Me, Mine, My, Myself)

For the Moment? said...

Maybe the advertisers finally woke up and complained to TLC about their mother of the year dressing like a hooker, as one could not help but notice she had definitely toned it down for this session. We all know if she had her druthers she would be in a mini-skirt with fake boobs hanging out all around, as always.

lifeoriley said...

Sounds like an episode for Kate to explain and rationalize her behavior--haven't they done that before? What's the point? Kate has her hard-core, cult following that cannot or will not see what a poor excuse for a mother she is. Why preach to the choir?
If anyone is "on the fence" about Kate being likeable or relatable, it sounds as if this episode would only push them off the fence, onto the "anti" Kate side --or at least the "what the h*ll is wrong with this woman?" side.
Some of the categories sound ridiculous--best "Owie" moment? What's "best" about an owie?
The "anti" side should have a poll--moment that made you want to slap Kate or moment that you felt uneasy for even watching the show--moment when you wanted to reach through the TV and give one of the kids a hug or a kind, reassuring word. There were plenty moments when I wished I was there to say to the camera crew, "Shut it off--no filming right now!"

Rose said...

I laughed, too, when Kate told Hannah (or whatever little girl it was) that she "never wanted to miss a week of her life again". I guess Kate finds it perfectly okay to be away for large amounts of time while she goes on book tours, stays in luxury hotels, and rolls her eyes at the same adoring fans to whom she "owes" her children's privacy.

And isn't it something how she STILL looks at that "pull the stick out" clip as completely unacceptable? She may have that one clip where Jon lost it on her, but Jon could fill a whole freaking NOVEL of moments where she completely tore him down. Boy, Kate, you just can't handle it when anyone stands up to you, can you? No wonder you "keep hoping the phone will ring, and the old Jon will be back". Personalities like you crave that total control over other people. I'm sure you do miss him, because now your husband isn't in the house to blame for your attitude.

And has anyone else noticed that it's getting harder and harder for Kate to talk about her children--or anyone other than herself, for that matter? She literally has to force herself to push out an "Oh, how cute" and "That's adorable" when a clip of her kids comes on the screen, and then she's like, okay, can we go back to talking about me? You can totally see it in her expressions. A show focused on her alone will suit her just fine.

DLCF said...

How about "Biggest Waste Of The Viewers' Time" as a category?

...and then they would have to run the entire shebang, every episode from every non-season, in very-very-ultra-mega fast-forward to fit it all in.

Jenny said...

Really good recap of the show. I sat down and actually tried to watch it the other night. There were the several horrendously disrespectful and yelling-at-Jon flashbacks at the start after which she proceeded to justify and give excuses for her behavior. I listened and it got to the point that I was so literally stunned at her "aren't I cute" speak that I actually yelled at the tv and called her a name! I'm not even kidding...I shocked myself! Sheesh, am I glad no one was home at the time...they would have thought I was nuts.

But really, looking into the camera (but mostly playing cutesy to the crew), she calmly acted like she had done nothing so wrong at all...I mean after all, she was "justified," wasn't she? But when they got to the clip of Jon telling her to, "take the stick out," oh my, different story! Only THEN did she get all upset and went on and on referring to how his behavior was just horrible, terrible, awful...that she couldn't believe he actually had said such a horrible thing, etc. Good grief, you'd think he'd beaten her with a baseball bat or something! And talk about justified...if anyone was ever justified when he made that comment, he was!

Why can't she have that same degree of passionate disgust when she sees her own stunningly horrendous behavior and hears her own embarrassingly disrespectful comments? And she even yells HER comments to Jon! He at least had taken as much as he could and then merely said the words to her in frustration...I didn't see him get up, walking around yelling at her making a big scene when he said it like she typically does!

Oh my gosh, you guys...I honestly think this woman is in dire need of some psychiatric help. As others have said, she thinks of herself as the perfect woman and all others fall short. From the latest photos I saw of her at Radar, she's looking a little worn. Maybe she's sensing the tide is turning just a bit and now she's the one who's starting to get some real criticism from various celebrities. The View ladies even made comments today that they were SO tired of the Gosselins and acted really disgusted and want them just to go away. Not sure how this will all end but I think if TLC would remove themselves from the situation and stop dangling the dollars in front of Kate, she might come back down to earth and realize how much she really needs friends and family. If that doesn't happen, I really fear for her future state of mind! (Sorry to go so long here, I guess I just needed to vent a little. I've just never in my life seen someone so self centered and selfish!)

cancel this trainwreck said...

Did anyone notice when Kate was talking about Disney World...that she was sighing and said something like - that is something you have to do for your kids..but it is a lot of work, or something along those lines? I thought she LOVED Disney? Honeymooned there...took the twins...and was so happy to be able to take the 6 later on? Is Disney World so below her now? Oh, well, it probably is. Doesn't really stack up against free Hawaii, San Diego, the spa etc. Must be tough to be on a "kid centered" family vacation. I don't watch all that much but happened to catch some of this debacle when I was up late. How many times can they show the same thing over and over again?

MickeyMcKean said...

After "Suck it up Buttercup" I was grinning while reading the entire recap!

Great recap fostersmom!

wramblinwreck said...

Fostersmom, thanks for falling on your sword (because I'm sure that's what it felt like watching this painful attempt at cuteness), for all of us who don't watch. I loved that you reminded us of so many "special moments" that didn't make it into this crapfest. TLC is doing itself no favors by dragging out the long-overdue end of this show.

Bubbles said...

As I was laying with my sick little daughter in my bed Monday night (that's right, you heard me...NOT on the laundry room floor!) we turned on the TV and this show was on. When the part about the Disney ice cream meltdown came on & Kate said "we don't have any other outfits!" my daughter looked at me (she's 6, btw) and said, "what? No other clothes? That's so dumb mommy!". Gotta love it when a 6 year old has more common sense than Kate!

Kate really is a bad actress, trying to act like she had no clue whatsoever what the top shocking moment could be. This recap was great but to add to it, Kate's acted as though she simply had not one idea as to what viewers might consider shocking. Maybe it's because she knows most of us has that figured out months before so the announcement was not shocking to us?

A random moment from the show that I've always been bothered by is when they were packing for a trip & Mady was showing the camera all the suitcases. She said one was filled with medicines since they would be getting sick from not eating organically. Puh-leeze!!! First of all, it's been shown that they did not eat 100% organically anyway. Secondly, people do not get sick from having some non-organic items introduced into their diet. As a parent and as a medical professional (or medical personnel, as Kate likes to call it) it annoys me so much that she over-dramatizes things like this that could really be great teaching moments for them instead.

Whenthelightswereout said...

Great recap! I think the reason why the kids could not roll down the hill is because Kate wants to resale the clothes on consignment. I know this has been said before. On radar online it says that Kate made a trip to the consigment shop yesterday. More than likely to get money for the free clothes given to the children. How many millionaires do this? Really? This woman is greedy. How about this, donate the clothes to children in shelters. That would be a kind thing to do. TLC will never be able to convince me that this woman has changed one bit. This woman has a heart of stone, I take that back she has no heart at all. It is impossible for her to feel any kind of emotion, other than lust for herself.

Anna said...

That picture with Jon and Kate and the newborn tups always grates on my nerves, too! I am SO glad you brought that up, because seriously, it drives me nuts. WHY weren't Mady and Cara in that picture? More importantly, if they were going to blow up a picture with the newborn babies, why couldn't they choose one that included the entire family of ten? Did anyone ever bother to ask Her Highness about this? What a sweet and precious memory for the twins to hold onto...the giant family picture that doesn't include them.

laura linger said...

Fosters: Epic. I am so impressed.

"Again, more justifications of her behavior, and she throws Jon under the bus, rolls her eyes about him, says poor choice of words and adds a snide “imagine that.”
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And with that, I was done with this episode. That's the father of your children, you snide little snippet. For your children's sake, show him some respect.

ErinKate said...

whenthelights..... Now you know why the kids are not allowed to play in the yard and can only be in the concreted area in front where the photographers are. They will get grass stains on their clothes and then Kate cannot sell them. Can you imagine being such a psycho that you keep you kids restricted to that small area? By the way I also know wealthy women who take their suits to the consignment shop. That is one reason they are wealthy.

fidosmommy said...

cancel this trainwreck said...
Did anyone notice when Kate was talking about Disney World...that she was sighing and said something like - that is something you have to do for your kids..but it is a lot of work, or something along those lines? I thought she LOVED Disney? Honeymooned there...took the twins...and was so happy to be able to take the 6 later on? Is Disney World so below her now? Oh, well, it probably is. Doesn't really stack up against free Hawaii, San Diego, the spa etc. Must be tough to be on a "kid centered" family vacation. I don't watch all that much but happened to catch some of this debacle when I was up late. How many times can they show the same thing over and over again?

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I didn't watch the Monday episode, but I do recall when the Disney episode ran Kate was not anxious to leave. She said it was just too short a trip, too wonderful, she would have to return one day,
even though going home was always the best part of every trip
(paraphrase). Now she's ho-humming
Snow White and Minnie Mouse? Is that what you're saying here?

One day, some of you are going to have to sit me down for a lesson or two on Understanding Kate. Because she is just beyond my ability to comprehend sometimes.
Surely there's a code book somewhere to decipher her.

Mikemom said...

As an ex-viewer my favorite moment was when Kate said I havent changed, Jon has. Well that must be she is the same ol b....

JJ said...

As for the Disney episode-I always wondered why they didn't just go to a souvenier shop and buy a new shirt??? Heck, she could even buy six if they had to match for the camera! Then you go to the bathroom and wash them with soap and water-problem solved. She even had a ton of help on that trip-she just doesn't have any normal parenting skills.

Parenting 101-if the child is upset you get down to their level and talk to the child. I have NEVER seen Kate bend over or get down on her knees to talk to her children. This works even with groups-how many times were they melting down and screaming and they just kept walking (and filming). Then Kate would complain to the camera instead of dealing with her kids.

I hate to admit that I watch because I like the kids-but I am glad that it is almost over because I will never watch just Kate again.

I have to add-Alexis is an amazing kid. She is an audience favorite and I think someone mentioned Kate hates that. She is outgoing, funny, cute and I was amazed at how she was with the reptiles, insects and butterflies. There may be hope for her and Collin since they are both so headstrong-but I will continue to pray for all eight to survive their childhood.

Sail Away said...

Fido's Mommy said, "...
One day, some of you are going to have to sit me down for a lesson or two on Understanding Kate. Because she is just beyond my ability to comprehend sometimes.
Surely there's a code book somewhere to decipher her."
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Fido's Mommy, Here's the code:

Kate flies her Freak and Crazy Flags at full mast at all times. Plus she lies like she breathes.
(end of code)

Like the Billy Joel song says, "You should never argue with a crazy mind..."

Expect lies from liars and crazy from the demented. So, just salute Kate's Freak & Crazy Flags and call it a day.

No Wisdom Whatsoever said...

JJ said, "... She even had a ton of help on that trip-she just doesn't have any normal parenting skills.

Parenting 101-if the child is upset you get down to their level and talk to the child. I have NEVER seen Kate bend over or get down on her knees to talk to her children..."

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Amen, JJ! Kate seems to be a proud graduate of The Military Drill Sgt. School of Mothering. (No offense to drill sergeants.) Kindness, patience, common sense, leading by example, calm and measured approach: these are all foreign concepts to Ms. Mother of the Year. With Kate Gosselin as their current flagship example of mothering, TLC's standards for model moms are laughable.

she is evil said...

Kate's meltdowns on trips are epic (Disney and Utah on the plane). But I concur with the earlier poster who pointed out all the damn help she had on these trips. Sheesh! Look at Utah and the plane meltdown. Yeah the kids were getting whiny and antsy but kids that age are malleable: start singing songs, play tictactoe, invest in a cheapie DVD player. It aint rocket science. She could have turned that situation around but noooooo, Kate has to cry and be comforted by one of her toddlers. Such a drama queen. And it wasn't like it was her alone plus eight kids. She had Jon ( poor confused Jon), Beth, Carla (or whoever else that was..sorry can't remember) plus tlc producers, camerapeople, plus blurred out Steve. That equals two kids max per adult. Less if the crew pitched in at all. Oh and why isn't tlc irked they have to blur out Steve's face but is suing jon for having to blur out the ed hardy shirt? Actually, it's not like they hid anything. Everyone still knew he had on that shirt and blurring it out just made it more obvious. Say what you will about Jon. He hasn't been perfect. But I cannot stomach the way Kate and TLC have turned on him.

abbie said...

They could do a whole hour just showing Kate speaking in made-up words trying to sound intelligent and completely slaughtering proper grammar....

she is evil said...

Hey Kate, you moron, do you really think you take your kids to Disney so YOU can have fun? My kids looooove Disneyworld and I don't blame them. We live about 10 hours away so it's a trip we can afford to make every year or two. It is not a vacation for me. It's a relatively expensive weekend out of town doing what they want to do. Sure I'd love to lounge by the pool, get my nails done go to the awesome outlet malls there but I'm not leaving them alone in an amusement park and not dragging them around to do what I want to do. So Kate, be a grown up and realize that Disney and family vacations in general are for the kids, as you so love to say. You have plenty of time apart from your kids to do all those things you do for yourself. Such a twit

my foot said...

A random moment from the show that I've always been bothered by is when they were packing for a trip & Mady was showing the camera all the suitcases. She said one was filled with medicines since they would be getting sick from not eating organically. Puh-leeze!!!
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Were the restaurants in all those hotels on her books tour organic

Starbucks?

Nobu or whichever fancy restaurant she wanted to go to when in NY
( the one her people said no to becase she had earlier gone on tv tos ay she had bills in her purse she could not pay)

my foot said...

Re disney/icecream
Was Kate's head so swelled up glee with the free trip, money, oodles of help that she just tripped off for a while?

Also i cant believe she went to the park on ahot day without waterbottles- this tells me her mind and priorities were else where....

ORRR said...

A random moment from the show that I've always been bothered by is when they were packing for a trip & Mady was showing the camera all the suitcases. She said one was filled with medicines since they would be getting sick from not eating organically.

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On some other trip, Jon said Aaden was sick ( he gave details, i will not post) and kate chimes in it was because he was not eating organic...

Pony said...

And what kind of experienced mother doesn't take a change of clothing with her when she still has kids that little? Plus, weren't they staying at Disney? It can't have taken that long to send one of the gophers back to the hotel for a new shirt - if it really mattered that much. Kate is a fool.

stopthemadness said...

Great recap - good job FM!

And the worst meltdown was the plane ride to Utah where Kate started crying on the plane as the kids were screaming and sobbing. In a new twist of editing, TLC blurs Steve’s face out in this showing. He’s sitting right behind Kate on the plane. Also an option coming out of Utah could have been Kate claiming she had such a horrible headache, the worst headache of her life, that she couldn’t spend time with her kids... but could go to the spa with Beth not too much later.
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And go shag Steve possibly, somewhere in there I wondered at the "Oh, I'm too sick to go, but not too sick to come out and say how sick I am, or see how cute the kids look in their free outfits, or to later go to the spa" - it never occurred til me that I read Steve accompanied them and TLC tried to hide that, that Kate may have had other reasons to fake an illness while Jon was away from the condo.

A reason why Beth's no longer in the picture? Maybe she knew something and had to agree not to talk? And decided she could no longer be party to it?

stopthemadness said...

jj said
Parenting 101-if the child is upset you get down to their level and talk to the child. I have NEVER seen Kate bend over or get down on her knees to talk to her children. This works even with groups-how many times were they melting down and screaming and they just kept walking (and filming). Then Kate would complain to the camera instead of dealing with her kids.
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Another reason why TLC filming them is BAD FOR THE KIDS. Kate has to "fly her crazy flag" so she can be filmed, positive parenting is totally rejected as it's not as edgy or controversial. So once again, not "reality" but scripted in the sense of, get the shot, get the crazy angry bitchy shot which TLC so loves, that's what we want to see and will pay for. I can just imagine the conversation from the producers to Kate about how they need MORE of that kind of thing and her stupidity and arroance and greed to go along with it.

Watched the Hayes family last night and loved them, hope TLC doesn't turn them into another Gosselin fiasco. Somehow with those parents, I don't think it'll happen there. Their kids are too bright and well grounded and the parents too laid back and committed to their family. But, BEWARE Hayes family!

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

ORRR said...
A random moment from the show that I've always been bothered by is when they were packing for a trip & Mady was showing the camera all the suitcases. She said one was filled with medicines
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I'm pretty sure those were VITAMINS, not medicines. I travel with a ton of those myself, so that doesn't seem particularly strange to me

bedonenow said...

she is evil said...
Kate's meltdowns on trips are epic (Disney and Utah on the plane). But I concur with the earlier poster who pointed out all the damn help she had on these trips.
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I couldnt agree with you more! However I have noticed for a long time that we have all been using 'meltdown' likely because that is Katie's word for it. To me, that is not what she is doing. She is having temper tantrums! She is not in a panic over her OCD or "too busy and too exhausted" or any of her other excuses, she is just plain old having tantrums because something didnt go her way. Think about it a bit and it perfectly explains why everyone walks on eggshells around her. She is an arrogant brat who screams, hits, and otherwise has a tantrum when she doesnt get her way. And she learned that people began to pamper her, trying to avoid her displays. She became very accustomed to that and with every breath she has, it is her mission in life now.

Damage Control said...

Ratings for 11/9 from TVBill @ TV By The Numbers: 1.615mil.
Buh-bye, Katie!

Yolanda said...

Next week there is yet another episode. Comcast has the following description:

"Kate shares newfound footage from the cutting room floor; the family decides to get passports for a big trip; Kate celebrates her 10th wedding anniversary with the children; Jon tries to train the dogs; Kate goes on the road for her book tour."

Another yawn-fest!! Is this show ever going to end?

Melissa said...

The only moment I enjoy is the one where Jon mocks Kate laughing and slaps his thigh repeatedly.

Melissa said...

I stopped watching a few seasons ago, so can someone fill this poor, unaware girl in - what on earth is Cupcake Gate? I assume Kate did something horrible with cupcakes? I've heard of most everything else, but why the cupcakes?

Betty said...

Ratings for 11/9 from TVBill @ TV By The Numbers: 1.615mil.

Could people please include the link for info such as this? It's good for people to be able to see the source themselves. Thanks.

OMyGoodness...!Remember? said...

Parenting 101-if the child is upset you get down to their level and talk to the child. I have NEVER seen Kate bend over or get down on her knees to talk to her children. This works even with groups-how many times were they melting down and screaming and they just kept walking (and filming). Then Kate would complain to the camera instead of dealing with her kids.
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O My Gosh, this makes me think of Princess Diana.! She was ALWAYS down on any child's level who wanted to speak to her or hand her a flower, which she ALWAYS accepted graciously.
Remember?
Not that KHate is anywhere NEAR deserving of being in the same post as Princess Di but...this comment just made the differences between the women that more striking. Wow.

fidosmommy said...

Melissa said...
I stopped watching a few seasons ago, so can someone fill this poor, unaware girl in - what on earth is Cupcake Gate? I assume Kate did something horrible with cupcakes? I've heard of most everything else, but why the cupcakes?

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There is a video of this somebody can link you to - I don't know how. There is also a GWoP recap on it - it was 7/7/08 I believe. You can go read that for a better recap.

Anyway, my quick recap: Tups were having a staged birthday party (they had already celebrated once -this day was for TV) after church one Sunday. They did not take time to change out of church clothes and went to a bakery that was opened for them specially for this event. They iced their own cupcakes with much glee. Kate was freaking out over the "mess" and Jon was telling her to chill out. She didn't chill. She was rude from start to finish. Anyway, the bakery lady offered 2 cupcakes per child, Kate said only 1 per child. They went home, Kate served dinner with cupcakes scheduled for dessert. Rule: if you don't eat your dinner, you don't get dessert. Everyone ate some of their dinner (Mady was trying valiantly to get Hannah to eat!). Hannah and the boys' plates looked about the same before they quit eating. Hannah got her cupcake, boys did not. Look of disbelief/sadness/unfair on their little faces. Kate and Jon tossed boys' cupcakes into the trash, and on the interview couch said the boys never even missed them. Neither seemed to give a damn that their children were upset about not getting a cupcake AT ALL, not even saved for the next day's dessert.

Happy 4th birthday, boys! Bet that was a memory to savor, right?

butt seriously folks said...

I'm sure the kids would have appreciated it but this former viewer is grateful we never had to see Kate bend over or get down on her hand and knees. Yikes. On to more snarkiness, have you noticed that Kate is almost never photographed or filmed from behind? Except for the bikini pics and I'm pretty sure she starved herself for those and seems to have regained much of that weight. Do you think Kate has a deal with TLC and the paparazzi not to photograph her backside? I guess we should just be thankful.

Deborah said...

I was SO disturbed by her comments about the dog's life threatening situation. "$2,000 later! I'm STILL not over THAT!"

So, you are rich. And yet, that money is more important than the fact that your dog could have died? Bet anything she'd have rather let it die a painful death than pony up the money for surgery. Of course, she couldn't do that on national television. Bet she was angry the vet's office didn't give her a FREEBIE surgery!

Grrr... that woman. That exchange about the money spoke VOLUMES!

RandomThoughts said...

It's funny that for the Best Meltdowns, for PART of the Utah ride, they do blur out Steve's face, but for the beginning parts, they don't.

Also--"When they become sticky, it's my problem," during the ice cream at Disney? Those are your children, they are ALWAYS "your problem." Well...for most people.

Goawayfools said...

Melissa, Cupcakegate was so unspeakably sad and unnecessarily cruel on Kate's part, and what people will remember most about the tups' 4th birthday. Kate arbitrarily deciding all the girls had eaten enough dinner to deserve dessert and none of the boys did made no sense. There is no appreciable difference in what any of the kids ate. And even if there was a difference, Kate could have spoon fed the boys, encouraged them to eat two more bites of meat or bingo, could have bent the rule for one day and let the boys have their friggin bday cupcakes. This went beyond not being able to pull the stick out. There was something sadistic and sinster about her treatment of the boys. No sympathy, not even from their sisters, who ate their cupcakes in front of those unbelieving, sad, sobbing boys. It broke my heart. And God bless Mady, who has had her unpleasant moments, but who also shows real compassion for her siblings sometimes. She can be so adorable I want to hug her, encouraging the tups to eat dinner. But how sad she felt the need to do that. That she knew Mom would deny them cupcakes on their bday if they didn't do everything to her liking. Also found it sad that the boys cried, and knew it was unfair and cruel, yet didn't dare question Kate's bullcrap reasoning. They just cried, slapped their foreheads, hung their heads. To this day, that scene upsets me. It's like those commercials fir the abused pets that they play to sad music. Those boys could be those pets. Fitting: their mom is a bitch

Tami said...

That pull the stick out actually had the opposite effect TLC and Hate desired. It shows what a remarkable man Jon really is to have lived through that crap. He is a better man than most. Come on, even sheeple would have to agree he went through hell (ok,maybe THEY wouldn't agree, but still..) If I'D heard even a fraction of what he endured directed toward ME, I would be calling her names not fit for family television on a daily basis. And in all those years 'pull the stick out' is obviously the ONLY bad thing he ever said! Otherwise, why would it even rate a second mention? Pull the stick out would be mild compared to what I would tell her. They must really think we are stupid to believe that is such a shocking, undeserved comment that he gave her!

Tami said...

- Biggest contradictions
(Hannah wants long hair; Kate later refuses to allow Hannah to get her hair cut)
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Or how about: My kids are not allowed to say the word paparazzi because how weird would it be for a 5 year old to know that...when she had just taught it to them in the car!

Tami said...

Hate, when you say you have not changed at all in all these years, that is NOT a good thing!!!

Tami said...

It's funny that for the Best Meltdowns, for PART of the Utah ride, they do blur out Steve's face, but for the beginning parts, they don't.

Also--"When they become sticky, it's my problem," during the ice cream at Disney? Those are your children, they are ALWAYS "your problem." Well...for most people.
*******
Actually that was a lie anyway. Those kids were always Jon's problem when it became inconvenient. Jon, wipe their butts, Jon, load them in the car, Jon, dress them, feed them, get them ready for school, Jon...well, you get the picture.

Bubbles said...

Big Wooden Spoon:

that was me that posted about all the medicines. I don't know what was actually in the bag. I don't have a problem with them taking medicine with them - I travel with meds & vitamins, too. What bothered me was Mady's belief that they would be getting sick from not eating organically. It appeared that's what she had been told, and it's inaccurate information.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

I found the cupcake incident to be a little cruel too. Nothing wrong with expecting kids to eat a reasonable amount of their dinner in order to get dessert, but on their birthday? And only the boys?

I guess with her general treatment of the boys and Jon, we can suffice it to say Kate has a strong resentment towards men? She's talked about how overly strict her dad was so probably started with him.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"The only moment I enjoy is the one where Jon mocks Kate laughing and slaps his thigh repeatedly."

Oh, that was funny. I believe that was when she said she enjoyed some remodel or moving project maybe? Because she got to "boss men around". That's when I remember Jon doing that and you could tell, he was fed up with her at that point.

Teresa said...

RE: Cupcakegate. That episode was heartbreaking for me. What was cruel too, was the way the camera zoomed in on the little boys faces as they cried. Jon was a party to this too, he could have stood up for the boys, instead he completely agreed with Khate. It was Jon who said the boys forgot all about the cupcakes the next day. What memories for the boys too. I bet they forget about most of the trips, but from experience they won't forget about the cupcakes years from now

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

my foot said: "Also i cant believe she went to the park on ahot day without waterbottles- this tells me her mind and priorities were else where...."

You don't have to bring water bottles to FIND some anywhere at the park. She always thinks they need SUGAR. That's half the reason for their continuous meltdowns, I'm sure; way too much sugar in their diet. How about some good old water on a hot day?

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"I have to add-Alexis is an amazing kid. She is an audience favorite and I think someone mentioned Kate hates that. She is outgoing, funny, cute and I was amazed at how she was with the reptiles, insects and butterflies. There may be hope for her and Collin since they are both so headstrong-but I will continue to pray for all eight to survive their childhood."

And maybe Mady and Leah too. I'm most worried about Hannah, Aaden and Joel.

Alexis is my favorite too. She has very striking looks with the light hair and Asian features, the way she talks is cute as can be and her quirkiness (the reptiles, etc.) and strong will are very appealing. Cute kid!

For the Moment? said...

Yolanda said: Re: Next week.

So they really were going to Korea. No wonder Kate was PO'd she had to miss out on that. Can you imagine what that trip would have been like. 16 hours on a plane with Krazy Kate.

Those dogs were such a missed opportunity, they always treated them like...well..dogs. They could have been a great comfort to the children. My feeling is that TLC probably wanted them to get the dogs as they needed to add something to the show, but Kate was so mean to them they couldn't even utilize them so they just became part of the background. They ccould have gotten them some nice big free dog houses and it could have been the kids responsibility to give them food and water and let them roam and protect the property, and the kids. But no, they had to be abused and controlled just like everyone else in Kate's household.

Who in the world celebrates their 10th wedding anniversary (sans the husband) with the kids?

And oh boy we get to see footage of Kate in her element. Playing to the sheeple and the paparazzi. I can't believe what they came up with out of all the possibilities. Won't be watching this one either.

Thanks Jon. Stay strong. Get prepared. Surround yourself with a winning team...there is not much time left.

For the Moment? said...

I din't get the best owie moment category. Going to the emergency room for stitches is a bit more than an owie. I think that is called an emergeny.

For the Moment? said...

Re; PLAN AHEAd

I think Kate said that plaque was made by a family member and she just had to have it. There was no room left for the "d" as in "PLAN AHEAd." Kate's mantra supposedly.

dee dee said...

I don't know if this was already mentioned, but during the clip of the trip to Hawaii, did anyone notice Kate said she was happy to meet Jon's family and saw one of his relatives in the audience? She was talking about the sham wedding and actually said Jon's family was there in the audience.

Pilgrim Soul said...

Yes, there seems to be some evidence that Kate's emotional abuse of the boys is resulting in some disturbing behavior in the boys, such as slapping themselves, etc... Very disturbing.

She's...um..RUINED said...

Well, Z is reporting a ratings tank of 1.6 mill viewers.

It makes me question Kate's future employment.

I can't think of what she could do, but I do know a few things she CAN'T do. I will start a few, and you guys go with it!!

1. Nurse
2. Parent
3. Child care provider
4. Cook
5. Organizer
6. High Road Taker
7. Contract Honorer
8. Author
9. Gum remover
10. Truth teller..........

Janine said...

bedonenow, BEAUTIFUL post. I think it's time to expose all of the truth. K8 is HAVING a TANTRUM! It's even worse with ALL the people who are next to her to help her with her children, her luggage, her every whim.
I will no longer think of it as a meltdown... that softens it, soulnd like she doesn't have a choice. She doesn't want to stop throwing a tantrum. Maybe she needs some time on the naughty chair.

Mona said...

Normally the kids are ravenous by the time Kate gets around to feeding them dinner and skarf it down without even tasting it. So you have to wonder what Kate was feeding them that the kids would not eat enough to get a cupcake they wanted so badly. It must have been a pretty nasty dinner. There must not have been a cook or nanny on duty that Sunday night to provide a tasty meal.

Poor kids. Whatever did they do to deserve a mother like Kate?

NoUse4Kate said...

Betty said...

Ratings for 11/9 from TVBill @ TV By The Numbers: 1.615mil.

Could people please include the link for info such as this? It's good for people to be able to see the source themselves. Thanks


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I must have missed the post that quoted stats because I was looking for them. However, I just went to Z on TV's site and he is reporting the 1.6 mil as well. You can find his blog here if you want further verification of those stats:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/11/jon_kate_tlc_ratings_monday.html

can't stand her said...

Agree that the pull the stick out comment was milder than what Kate deserved. Funny thing is it's so true. The stick is clearly still up there. Poor poor stick

Vanessa said...

Janine, let's go one step further and call it abuse. If anyone were to treat an animal like that and someone notified the authorities they'd be investigated. No such thing with her behaviour towards her family, even with video proof!

she is evil said...

I've wondered about Jon not sticking up for the boys regarding the cupcakes. I'll bet be wanted to. He probably knew that arguing wouldn't help the boys' case (Kate does not bend, ever) and would just result in an unpleasant fight in front of the kids. Not that it makes things right. But I think it's indicative of the level of fear and misery he lived under while living with that witch. I hope he heals.

Laurie said...

The one thing that is never mentioned when we talk about Joel on the laundry room floor is that later in the episode kate is curled up in a chair snuggled in a blanket asking the kids to rub her feet. Oh yes, a great mom asking them to take care of her and give her "peace and quiet" (as one tup kept repeating "you want peace and quiet" so we know kate says it alot).

fidosmommy said...

Re: the stick.

When I was in a college sorority we used to tell our sisters who were feeling particularly bitchy to get the pineapple out. Pineapples are traditional symbols of hospitality, and to figuratively sit on one was to be inhospitable to those around you. It was a not term meant to be friendly, but very much to the point. Kwitcherbitchin. You aren't mad about something of consequence, you're just being abusive to people. Stop it.

Why did Jon say that to Kate? Because she was yelling about totally inconsequential stuff while he was trying to get several kids dressed (she was combing hair, if I recall. She had 3 girls to primp, he had 6 to dress.) There was a discussion of shoes, and of course Jon chose the wrong ones or something. This crime led to Kate wedging the stick in more, and Jon simply reminded Kate that she was being impossible to deal with. Very honestly, I think. VERY much to the point. She needed to be told.
The children would have no idea what that term meant, so it wasn't like he was saying "Mommy's mean. Don't listen to Mommy" in front of them.

I'd say she has a pineapple. I think she carries it with her in that second handbag of hers. So she can sit on it regularly.

Jane in California said...

Goawayfools said...

Melissa, Cupcakegate was so unspeakably sad and unnecessarily cruel on Kate's part, and what people will remember most about the tups' 4th birthday. *snip*
This went beyond not being able to pull the stick out. There was something sadistic and sinster about her treatment of the boys
* * * *

Yes, that showed so clearly that Kate actually dislikes her own sons. She took pleasure in denying them their cupcakes, in hurting them emotionally. She didn't want to do the cupcake trip, so by gosh, those boys were going to pay! Not the girls of course. It's only the nasty icky boys who must pay the price.

Jon, if you read this blog, you must do all you can at the very least, to get those boys away from Kate as much as possible. Furthermore, you need to find them some surrogate grandmother types who will treat these boys like the precious human beings they are, so that they can hopefully begin to realize they aren't icky, they aren't deserving of this sort of treatment. It's intolerable what Kate puts those boys through.

It's beyond belief that TLC actually purposely risked their "brand" to try to pass Kate Gosselin off as anything but a monster. Fools.

For the Moment? said...

Re: Sugar

Kate substitutes the word blood sugar for thirsty and starving, typical Kate speak.

2badsosad said...

Re: Sugar

Kate substitutes the word blood sugar for thirsty and starving, typical Kate speak.

Perhaps if Kate concerned herself enough to actually ASK the child what was wrong, more often then not she would find the cause of the meltdown had absolutely nothing to do with the child needing 'sugar' or food.

goawayJandK said...

fostersmom-

Thank you for your time and effort writing such snarkalicious commentary about this debacle.

Even if I DID have the wit to write like many of you here, I don't think I could stomach watching K8 for AN HOUR, Lordy that would send me over the edge.

SafetyTrai said...

When those boys are adults and look at the cupcake episode through adult I wonder how they will respond to their parents laughing at their sadness? J&K are gonna have eight adult children who are going to go watch these shows and constantly re-evaluate their childhood and their relationships with their parents. They won't know what hit them - eight kids, coming to terms with their childhoods, all at different times and different paces. They're going to constantly be on the defensive about their parenting and they won't be able to do a thing about it - except shut them out entirely - which is probably what Kate will end up doing. At least Jon feels some remorse and doesn't seem to have the inclination to naturally shut people off like the witch does. Regardless, they both haven't begun to feel the backlash. I'm not sure if they know what they're in for.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

Bubbles said...
Big Wooden Spoon:

*snipped* What bothered me was Mady's belief that they would be getting sick from not eating organically. It appeared that's what she had been told, and it's inaccurate information.

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I agree -- Kate makes such a big deal about "organic", but clearly has no clear understanding of basic healthy nutrition.

Poor Kate -- dumber than a doorknob.

she is evil said...

Enjoy Yourself, I, too, have wondered if Kate begrudged Alexis because of her charm, beauty, and natural scene stealing ability. All of the kids are pretty cute, but that little girl in particular is absolutely gorgeous, stunning... something linebacker Kate never was and never will be, as hard as the pathetic fool tries. And her beauty is no reflection on Kate; she looks very Asian and much more like Jon. Her silly, carefree personality and quirkiness make her a natural charmer and scene stealer...Something Kate will NEVER be. Alexis seems to be singled out for inferior treatment from Kate, along with the boys, and has been the recipient of pinches and Vulcan death grips from her mom. Wouldn't most moms be secretly proud of how cute their child is? Methinks the bitch is actually jealous of her own daughter.

Laurie said...

ITA fidosmommy. Maybe that's why her hair is so odd...she's go the pineapple up her but so far it's coming out her head!

PA Woman said...

NoUse4Kate said...
Betty said...

Ratings for 11/9 from TVBill @ TV By The Numbers: 1.615mil.

Could people please include the link for info such as this? It's good for people to be able to see the source themselves. Thanks


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I must have missed the post that quoted stats because I was looking for them. However, I just went to Z on TV's site and he is reporting the 1.6 mil as well. You can find his blog here if you want further verification of those stats:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/
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I'd still like to see the original source. What I am interested in is what other TLC or similar cable shows ratings are in comparison. Does it have the information for other shows?

dustilies said...

can't stand her said...

The stick is clearly still up there. Poor poor stick.

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I have a cracked rib, so I'm really trying not to laugh hard. No success with this comment! Hurts so good . . .

Peas and Carrots said...

I think the entire show is a 'cruel moment'. I am dismayed that people would find this entertaining at all, watching a family disintegrate, two self absorbed adults not being the best role models or parents for that matter. Those poor children, they are going to be completely messed up and the blame can be put squarely on J&K for doing the show and TLC for letting it continue. When TLC saw that things were going sideways, IMHO they had a moral obligation/responsibility to stop the trainwreck, but they didn't, they followed it right up to the point that train ran off the tracks and plunged down proverbial ravine and exploded in a huge fireball. Shame on TLC.

I did not watch the pity party on Monday night and have pretty much stopped watching TLC. I hate gossip/voyeurism television and this is insidious because in the beginning the show was innocent enough and now it is a sordid, tell all, with no one taking responsibility for what happened. YUK.

I think the cruelest thing was the cupcake gate episode. Really how can you put one episode over another? They all had the bad moments. But cupcake gate was particularly cruel. If they were my kid(s) I would have let them have their cupcakes for dinner and given them a veggie plate or something else when they were hungry later. Birthdays are special occasions and should be celebrated.

I think these people are a product of our times, we don't expect civility anymore, we don't expect excellence and mediocrity is the standard by which we rule our society by. So sad.

ImFrancie said...

abbie said...
They could do a whole hour just showing Kate speaking in made-up words trying to sound intelligent and completely slaughtering proper grammar....


I would SO watch that episode!

Maybe someone enterprising will splice those clips together for YouTube.

And thanks, fostersmom, for your valiant recapping. I don't envy you. Will. Not. Watch.

Hello People!!!! said...

Re: Organic diet and sickness... OK I read that many commented that if you eat organic and switch to nonorganic you will not get sick... Not true... If you only eat 100% organic you will get sick- I know someone who is 100% organic and this happens.... BUT I DOUBT all the juicy juice, all their, snacks, and everything they eat at home or away (ex Starbucks) is 100% organic... sorry to get off subject! :-)
Re: Cupcake gate... WTF why? These poor children are scared and they have the videos to prove it.... in 10 years the children will watch this over and over as ammo for their teenage angst.... A lot of us have bad memories like this (Probably not this rediculis(sp)) but we were able to forget them...
Re: Gumgate: again WTF? Why- wait because you needed a convinent reason to get rid of Jodi... she was too good with your children and too generous with her time and efferts... and we all know how you feel about stuffed animals...
Top moment I wanted to see...
1. Kate doing favors for all who helped her for real...
2. Jon and Kate getting therapy (Off camera)
3. The children getting therapy (And being off camera all the time)
4. "Single mom Kate doing all the single mom tasks a real single mom doing-ex. unclogging a toliet, mowing the lawn, taking care of the children for real...
5. Kate being more involved in the childrens lives ex. PTA meetings, normal family activities, baking, crafts, praying, etc...
6. Big family reunion
Sorry to ramble but Kate please pray and God will lead the way!!!!

Kate Don't Rate said...

bedonenow said...

I couldnt agree with you more! However I have noticed for a long time that we have all been using 'meltdown' likely because that is Katie's word for it. To me, that is not what she is doing. She is having temper tantrums! She is not in a panic over her OCD or "too busy and too exhausted" or any of her other excuses, she is just plain old having tantrums because something didnt go her way. Think about it a bit and it perfectly explains why everyone walks on eggshells around her. She is an arrogant brat who screams, hits, and otherwise has a tantrum when she doesnt get her way. And she learned that people began to pamper her, trying to avoid her displays. She became very accustomed to that and with every breath she has, it is her mission in life now.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Funny you should mention "eggshells." There's a book called WALKING ON EGGSHELLS, whose topic deals with the precise "issue" from which I strongly believe Khate suffers.

Old Song said...

<2 million viewers this week?

Goodnight, (Katie) Irene, Goodnight

Paige (Final Clothes-Out) said...

Oh snap, I totally forgot the twins told Kate they would've had more fun at the Crayola factory without her! Ha ha ha haaaaa!

Anonymous said...

Great recap!!!

I was surprised/dismayed/saddened that nothing was mentioned/shown on the show re: clips with Janet on pony or folding clothes and lots of hugs and kisses for the kids. This woman passed away in July and TLC and Kate have not mentioned a word of it. Janet loved those children and was a substitute Grandma, also a laundry folder (who know what else the Queen delegated ot her). Did she tick Kate off? Maybe the lackeys will read this and put it in the credits on the last show. I find it so cold not to mention her at all. Kate really is the ice queen.

RIP Grandma Janet...you were a good egg!!!

Go Sit in the Corner, Kate said...

Kudos to the poster here who described Kate's behavior as temper tantrums. VERY GOOD POINT.

Her under ten year old kids have been ordered to Time Out for behavior far less heinous than their mom's daily performances.

Can we all send Kate to a permanent Time Out place?

GoPoshGo said...

fostersmom said...
And the winner is? Toys R Us. She’s all fake exasperated that this is included. She asks how many time they will rehash it. My guess is until it isn’t quite so ugly and demoralizing to Jon.

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That scene was so painful to watch. And in typical Kate fashion she denies being in the wrong at all. I laughed out loud when she claimed she wasn't even yelling at Jon -- she just sounded loud because she was "mic'ed." WTF??? Yeah, that's why every customer's head snapped to look at the crazed woman who was screaming across the store.

Great recap fostersmom -- especially enjoyed your suggestions for the "moments" that really should have made it.

Moons in Leo said...

I happened to stop by here today to see if this sorry excuse for a television show is still on the air. I guess so.

Fostersmom, I appreciate you suffering through this episode as you have so many others.

I'm guessing this one was particularly painful for you because reading your recap found me grimacing a lot instead of chuckling. It's totally not your fault! I think it's impossible to air a montage of the worst moments ever to be seen on the airwaves and then be able to spin it into gold.

Thanks for your efforts. Now go have a nice hot toddy.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

SafetyTrai said...
When those boys are adults and look at the cupcake episode through adult I wonder how they will respond to their parents laughing at their sadness? J&K are gonna have eight adult children who are going to go watch these shows and constantly re-evaluate their childhood and their relationships with their parents
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The ONLY good thing I can think of for having the children's entire horrible childhoods on DVD is that it will make it very easy for the shrinks to figure out what's wrong!

But (S)he HIT Me! said...

Sounds like they didn't show any of those clips where Kate made the kids hug and kiss each other after one kid hit the other kid.

Always seemed like a psychologically-confusing thing to make kids do - completely deny and repress their genuine momentary feelings of anger/hurt and, to please mommy, go through the motions of hugging and kissing the very person you either just hit or who just hit you. Talk about an "Ouchie Moment".

Doesn't seem wise parenting at all. I hope those kids don't take this 'lesson' into adult life, thinking the way to arbitrate family peace is to hug and kiss their abuser. Scary and sad. Kate, what the H are you thinking? Could you possibly be this dense???

Issues in the Furniture Dept said...

All you ever need to know about Kate Gosselin can be found in the infamous New Beds For The Tups performance.

The RN is completely disinterested in the fact that her little boy is in gi distress. She's concerned only because the bed style she wants does not come in the color she wants (I'm guessing Miss Oppositional wanted the one thing they didn't have because THAT is who she is - never happy, always demands what is not available).

THEN after her kids terrorizing the furniture store for what seemed like a very long time (WHY OH WHY bring all the kids along to look at FURNITURE? Dumb, Kate, dumb.), the poor owner writes up the order but Ms. Oppositional rears her ugly head again and completely CHANGES the order, forcing the poor guy to completely re-do the order. I don't know what kind of profit this poor guy made on this sale, but whatever it was, it was not enough!

The final glimpse into who Kate Gosselin is watching her laugh about how she made the guy completely re-do her order at the last minute.

Great behavior there, Mother of the Year. Seriously, Kate, what's WRONG with you?

Sissy said...

I have always been amazed at how the kids eat with such hearty appetites. It took reading here to make me realize they were REALLY hungry by time they were fed.

My kids were all picky eaters, annoyingly so, and that was why I was so surprised to see how ravenously the Gosselin kids dive into their food.

It takes a village, eh?

anotherthing... said...

Fido's Mommy said, "...
One day, some of you are going to have to sit me down for a lesson or two on Understanding Kate. Because she is just beyond my ability to comprehend sometimes.
Surely there's a code book somewhere to decipher her."
********************
She boggles my mind too, Fidos Mommy!!! But heres what Ive got so far....

Understanding Kate 101:

She is a liar. And a snake. She is shady, has no skill or talent and is a terrible parent.... once all of that is understood one more thing must be remembered at all times: Believe nothing she says.

The code is as follows:

'everything i do, i do for my kids'= TLC writes my interview responses.

'I was on bedrest for 30 weeks'= i knew that these kids were the only way id get the fame and fortune i deserve.

'the kids miss doing the show...'= i need the staff back; and the kids miss the attention of people looking after them. and we must travel for free more. we deserve it.


bedonenow...

I LOVED your whole post about kates 'freak outs'. You are so right about them, Im sure.

I have a family member who is so very similer to Kate and has the exact 'problem' that you described... you nailed it. This famliy members self-destructive behavior/KARMA did catch up to her. Which is why i really honeslty believe that I can see the real Kate. Well, see through her, as the case may be.

As for the ratings: take the hint TLC/Kate. We. Are. So. Over. You.

Delusion du jour said...

I remember hearing Kate say she thinks when the kids view the DVD's as adults, they will see how HARD their parents had it with the 8 kids (paraphrasing).

Kate is her own Hero in Her Head. She believes the DVD's of J&K+8 are evidence of her greatness.

Is Kate Delusional?
Yes. Yes, she is.

She's...um..RUINED said...

Anonymous said...

Great recap!!!

I was surprised/dismayed/saddened that nothing was mentioned/shown on the show re: clips with Janet on pony or folding clothes and lots of hugs and kisses for the kids. This woman passed away in July and TLC and Kate have not mentioned a word of it. Janet loved those children and was a substitute Grandma, also a laundry folder (who know what else the Queen delegated ot her). Did she tick Kate off? Maybe the lackeys will read this and put it in the credits on the last show. I find it so cold not to mention her at all. Kate really is the ice queen.

RIP Grandma Janet...you were a good egg!!!
__________________

I am sure tlc aliens troll around here. Maybe they will (gasp!) mention Nana Janet next week..

I find it so funny that tlc always addresses issues written about here. They just try to spin it Kate's way, thank God we all have a brain. And a heart.

Ain't buying it tlc. You can put all the lipstick you want to on that pig...heck, put a big red bow on it too...we still ain't buying it.

Can't See Sheep said...

Mona said...

Normally the kids are ravenous by the time Kate gets around to feeding them dinner and skarf it down without even tasting it. So you have to wonder what Kate was feeding them that the kids would not eat enough to get a cupcake they wanted so badly.
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I've been wondering this too. Every time you see them, they seem to be more than happy to eat what they're handed. Maybe they were so excited about the cupcakes that's all they could think of. I've known a lot of kids who were good eaters, but on their birthday just wanted to get to the cake. Mind you there's a terribly snarky part of me that would love to think that Kate finally created something that not even starving kids would eat. The kids will be like that comedian Lenny Henry, the cooking was so bad at home when he was a kid he had to learn to cook in self-defense

Can't See Sheep said...

For the Moment? said...

Re; PLAN AHEAd

I think Kate said that plaque was made by a family member and she just had to have it. There was no room left for the "d" as in "PLAN AHEAd." Kate's mantra supposedly.
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People who plan ahead tend not to bring children into the world they can't pay for unless they have something else up their sleeves. Mind you I would have put mooching from the public & conning down as risky ways to support a total of 8 children, shopping around for a TV show is pretty damn flimsy too.


Laurie said...

The one thing that is never mentioned when we talk about Joel on the laundry room floor is that later in the episode kate is curled up in a chair snuggled in a blanket asking the kids to rub her feet. Oh yes, a great mom asking them to take care of her and give her "peace and quiet" (as one tup kept repeating "you want peace and quiet" so we know kate says it alot).
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What a revolting self-centred excuse of a human being. I must have missed this part, I don't recall it, maybe I've started blocking Kate out of my mind. Joel on a cold floor & her in a blanket getting her babies to rub her feet. Peace & quiet, I'd think that the children would be the ones in need of peace & quiet with old possum-head having to deal with a sick baby. I'd expect her to be stalking the hall shrieking. You wait, many years after that woman has left this world, kids will be daring each other to stand in the bathroom on Halloween, look in the mirror & say either 'kate gosselin or possum-head' three times.

fidosmommy said...

Anonymous said...
Great recap!!!

I was surprised/dismayed/saddened that nothing was mentioned/shown on the show re: clips with Janet on pony or folding clothes and lots of hugs and kisses for the kids. This woman passed away in July....

*****

No, not July. October 28.

When was Monday's episode filmed?
Did they even know of her death when it was filmed? If not, then one of those black screen memorials
could have still been added. I doubt Nana Janet ticked off TLC, only Kate.

Canadian Mom said...

radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/photos-kate-gosselin-starts-christmas-shopping

You think she still had $ on her Target gift card?????

Maybe she only bought the Xmas wrapping in *hopes* someone will 'donate' the children's gifts....

XYZed said...

Another great recap, fostersmom. Thanks to you, I don't have to endure Kate-palooza and her Kate-centred universe.

Interesting that Kate is proud that she is, "still the same person she always was". After having to sit through visual evidence of her cruel tirades, one would think she would be mortified that she is still that same person.

Can't See Sheep said...

Thanks for the great recap fostermom!

fidosmommy said...
I'd say she has a pineapple. I think she carries it with her in that second handbag of hers. So she can sit on it regularly.
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I love it, but you're being kind, I'd say that woman has a whole damn field of pineapples crammed up her. She is just nasty, hostile, ungrateful, the exact opposite of hospitality, she's the anti-hospitality . That woman could make an al qaeda gathering look like a quilting bee. Just send Kate over, they'll all clear out of the country running from that white devil western woman.

zee said...

The ratings are here in TVBill's last comment...

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/10/cable-ratings-nfl-football-spongebob-and-fanboy-chum-chum-top-weekly-cable-charts/33129

Tami said...

. Nurse
2. Parent
3. Child care provider
4. Cook
5. Organizer
6. High Road Taker
7. Contract Honorer
8. Author
9. Gum remover
10. Truth teller..........
******
Not a can-do-er...

Melissa said...

You know, I didn't think my opinion of Kate could possibly get any lower. I'm not sure if the fact that it HAS is impressive or incredibly sad...

What kind of parent refuses their child cake on their own birthday? Birthdays are the one day out of the year where everything else isn't supposed to MATTER! Who cares if they didn't eat the stupid vegetables? This is the one day where it should be OKAY to have cake and ice cream and do whatever you want and just be HAPPY it's YOUR special day.

Kate, those boys "never even knew they were missing"? Let's see if that's really true - GO AWAY and see if your kids know you've gone missing.
My guess is they'll be too happy not being treated like furniture to even know you were missing!

Miss Brown Betti said...

Melissa,

Alot has been discussed about cupcakegate. You said it perfectly.Thank you.

Teresa said...

11/12/2009 7:13pm -Melissa said...

*******Applauding this posting*******

anotherthing... said...

Cant See Sheep Said...

"...You wait, many years after that woman has left this world, kids will be daring each other to stand in the bathroom on Halloween, look in the mirror & say either 'kate gosselin or possum-head' three times.

11/12/2009 4:53 PM"
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Oh. Oh... I more than LOLed at this. Seriously. I had a tear running down my cheek!!!!

Re: Joel on the laundry room floor and Kate asking her kids to rub her feet and them mumbeling about her needing 'peace & quiet'....

Im so DISGUSTED by this whole situation; this epi was one of the reasons I stopped watching. I dont recall the kids rubbing her feet etc because i was so troubled by Joel on the floor that everything else faded to grey in my mind.

I just kept thinking to myself "are these really her kids?...is she really a mom?...or is she a hired actress?...no mom would do that...?"

I still find it to be a showing of her true parenting skills ("i dont want to deal with it, get it out of my sight until someone else gets here who will deal with it") and also a very revealing representation of her morals/ethics/true self. And its not pretty. She'd rather stash away a child who is not up to her 'ideal' and keep him/her out of sight and out of her world than deal with the reality of the situation.

Its very telling: and it fits along with her and Jons divorce (pretend its fine to the world to fit the 'ideal') and everything else (she cuts people out of her world when the no longer fit her ideal: beth, jodi, kevin, janet, etc)....

...she is revolting.

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Someone commented about the children's ravenous appetites. I have to agree. Based on my previous viewing of the show (I no longer watch) they were all constantly starving. And with the exception of the Ice Queen's favorite (you know which one) they all appear to be rather underweight, especially the boys.

Elle said...

"I have to add-Alexis is an amazing kid. She is an audience favorite and I think someone mentioned Kate hates that..."

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I agree that Alexis is amazing because she doesn't talk like Kate like the rest of the girls. It used to be just Mady behaving like Kate, throwing tantrum and talking down others. I am very sad that even Lean and Hannah talk like Kate now. How sad most kids are products of the environment and they can hardly escape from it.

But Alexis is different. She doesn't demean others like Kate, Mady, Hannah or Leah. Alexis is all about having a good time. Any child who doesn't inherit parents' flaws and copy their bad behaviors is very special. It means that child is his or her own person and isn't easily influenced by the environment.

Debi said...

I was just reading something about Lindsey Lohan and some of her coping mechanisms. What bothered me most is that the reason she might do this (she's a cutter) is because since she was a child, she was the bread-winner in the family. This seems to have been a very heavy burden for her, and now she's reacting...and not in a good way. Without those kids, Jon and Kate wouldn't have had a show. The show was because of those kids. I personally used to watch it just to see the kids, and could care less about the parents. I pray to God that nothing like what Lindsey Lohan is going through happens to these youngsters. I pray that Lindsey Lohan gets help asap...and hope the Gosselin kids get help now as a precaution.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

she is evil said: "Enjoy Yourself, I, too, have wondered if Kate begrudged Alexis because of her charm, beauty, and natural scene stealing ability. All of the kids are pretty cute, but that little girl in particular is absolutely gorgeous, stunning... something linebacker Kate never was and never will be, as hard as the pathetic fool tries. And her beauty is no reflection on Kate; she looks very Asian and much more like Jon. Her silly, carefree personality and quirkiness make her a natural charmer and scene stealer...Something Kate will NEVER be. Alexis seems to be singled out for inferior treatment from Kate, along with the boys, and has been the recipient of pinches and Vulcan death grips from her mom. Wouldn't most moms be secretly proud of how cute their child is? Methinks the bitch is actually jealous of her own daughter."

Yeah, it's her those features combined with the light-colored hair, I think, that makes Alexis so stunning. Kate always talks about how little and cute Leah is, which is true, but Alexis is the one you just can't help but stare at she's got such striking good looks.

And what a pistol. lol I think she will do just fine in life; she's managed to live in her own little world, despite her mother, and is very close to Jon.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

RE: Alexis; I left out that she has the best smile of all the kids and that also makes her a real scene stealer!

Alicia said...

"kate is a cocky bitch said...

Someone commented about the children's ravenous appetites. I have to agree. Based on my previous viewing of the show (I no longer watch) they were all constantly starving. And with the exception of the Ice Queen's favorite (you know which one) they all appear to be rather underweight, especially the boys."

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In fairness, we've only seen those kids sitting down at what, maybe 10 meals in almost 4 years? I'm sure that while filming was going on there were delays in food prep. etc. Not to defend the filming by the way, and that's not an excuse for the kids being hungry ever but I don't think those kids are usually wanting for food.
Take a look at the tummies on all of them (the little girls at gymnastics for example). All the kids look to be a healthy weight to me. I'd be more concerned if they were chubby and living on junk food like many kids today.

Vanessa said...

I'm not sure the "laundry room floor" episode is the same one as the "feet rubbing" one"? Not that it makes a difference, I just think they were two different ones.
Also, when she goes up to check on Joel and there's vomit all over his comforter, what is with that reaction!!?? She calls herself a nurse? A medical PEROSNNEL?
Is that what she'd do in the hospital when people are barfing left and right, bleeding left and right, all over the floor, bedsheets, missing the vomit bowl?
Lord help them! But to prove what a great "mother" she is, she dutifully straps on the face mask and stands over the laundry sink for whatever amount of time it will take to scrub that stain out! Dammit, I will not quit!
Come hell or high water, I WILL GET THIS STAIN OUT...FOR MY KIDS!

She's..um..RUINED said...

Canadian Mom said...

radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/photos-kate-gosselin-starts-christmas-shopping

You think she still had $ on her Target gift card?????

Maybe she only bought the Xmas wrapping in *hopes* someone will 'donate' the children's gifts....

11/12/2009 5:11 PM
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Good one!! lol!!!!!!!

Shari said...

This may have been addressed already so forgive me if I'm being repetitive. But I suspect that everything Kate has done with the kids so far in their lives has all been to drag out the longevity of their show. (Bibs, high chairs, underfeeding the kids to keep them small, junior kindergarten, etc....) She knew from the beginning that the success of that show depended on 6 'babies' so she's tried to keep them in that bubble of time. If she realized that, too bad they didn't just plan accordingly and stay grounded,stay in a house they could afford, stash the money in accounts for the kids, and not plan this to be a life long career. Maybe then her kids would be well fed and developmentally normal.

crazy said...

RE: JOEL ON THE FLOOR
Look at the episode again.

When Jon comes home and enters the Kitchen, at once Kate announces" Joel threw up on his comforter, hes a vomituous boy, no more comforters for Joel"

Imagine coming home to your sick kids and your wife is concerend about a comforter..

liar said...

Re: Joel on the laundry room floor and Kate asking her kids to rub her feet and them mumbeling about her needing 'peace & quiet'....
__________________
Julie once said that Kate has someone lined up to help her every morning.
I believe that because Jodi took them on Fridays, the Nana who rode the b-day party horse helped on a Tuesday and Thursday.

So she had help in the mornings, made them nap/locked in cribs after lunch until 3 or 4, which was close to Jon coming home.

This does not include her laundry folders and pack awayer, maid service etc

Ill bet she had lots of peace and quiet

HW said...

Kate is planning to celebrate her tenth anniversary with her children? As a child of divorce I find this the most bizarre thing she's ever claimed to be doing for the kids. Why on earth would a divorced mother set aside to celebrate a marriage she made no attempt at saving. How are she and TLC going to spin this that it's good for the children?
Looks to me like an attempt to still get anniversary gifts from her zeroes of friends.
Kate? Remember those storms you claim you've weathered? Well when your marriage was in trouble, you abandoned ship. Why celebrate that?

readerlady said...

I found Joelgate an appalling episode, too. It was the beginning of the end of this show for me. I can see putting a sick child on a pallet on the floor of the laundry room in order to keep an eye on him while doing the laundry, but to shut him in there alone,with the lights out, was beyond cruel. Once again, Jon proved himself to be the superior parent. Despite being in severe pain from an ulcerated cornea, he immediately removed Joel from the floor when he came home, and put him in his and Khate's room. He also cleaned Joel up and cleaned the floor when Joel threw up again. Khate was too "exhausted" to deal. Sorry, Khate, your childrens' needs come before your own. "Exhausted" or not, it's your JOB to take care of your sick children. And a bit of sympathy for your husband, who's in pain but still doing HIS job, wouldn't be out of order.

now said...

This may have been addressed already so forgive me if I'm being repetitive. But I suspect that everything Kate has done with the kids so far in their lives has all been to drag out the longevity of their show. (Bibs, high chairs, underfeeding the kids to keep them small, junior kindergarten, etc....) She knew from the beginning that the success of that show depended on 6 'babies' so she's tried to keep them in that bubble of time.
__________________________
I think Kate was acting under "suggestions" of TLC and she had no problem doing what they asked

Kate pretty much sold herself and kids to TLC

now said...

With the internet and technology if one of those kids does ANYTHING it will be all over the tabloids
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I agree, 10 yrs from now we will still be hearing about them.
Former reality show child star was seen today....

Im more concerend about their safety. Its ok now, they live at home, go few places, have adults around them.

What happens when they get older and go out on their own. Who is to say some crazy fan wouldnt be looking them up.

Rose said...

Stop the Madness said...

"I am 21 and was not too long ago a teen. I think it is SICK the way they are setting these kids up. You have eight children, and you are selfishly shoving them into the public eye. They are not raising them like the duggar kids who I doubt will ever be involved in anything scandalous because they are not being raised like most kids/teens."

I think you're right. I have to admit that I truly enjoy watching the Duggars, because when they say they aren't doing anything differently than they would if they weren't being filmed, I actually believe them. The parents are not verbally abusive toward each other, they don't act selfish or gobble up one freebie after another, and they--gasp!--actually seem to have married for the right reasons, which appears to be helping them get through the highs AND lows of life. And yes, as it is, their kids are already being raised under very strict religious values. You can see with the oldest son Josh that their feet are still firmly planted on the ground. If Josh and Anna were parading their newborn baby around the cameras and the talk shows, then I would sense a problem, but they are actually opting for some privacy and staying out of the public eye for now. I can't picture Kate making a similar decision. Can you?

Nobody's perfect, of course, but the Gosselin kids are really being set up for a rough future. To realize what I mean, all you have to do is look back on your own teen years. I had plenty of growing pains, and mind you, I was not living in the public eye. Being a teenager is hard under the very BEST of circumstances--I feel that I had a very normal, supportive and loving set of parents, and it was still difficult. How will the Gosselin kids feel once they figure out that their private lives are basically synonymous with their public lives? (Translation: their private lives are nonexistent.)

Kate has to be ridiculous to think that she can slap a quick Band-Aid on every little problem as the kids grow older. I know she SAYS she's aware that the kids will grow up with "some sort of dysfunction", but I don't feel that she truly understands it. She couldn't possibly, because if she did, she'd be handling things differently now.

You can't just go on with the destructive lifestyle until the children reach rock bottom - you have to turn things around while they can still be pulled out, and I just don't think Kate gets it.

For the Moment? said...

Is it just me or do the kids seem to have an inordinate amt of stomach ailments? Can anyone say salmonella? To which one of the kids I think it was Alexis said "I like salmon."

JFaye said...

To me the most telling thing about Kate, is that she can look at hours of herself and NOT see harmful or shocking behavior on her part. I think most of us might think twice about how we talk to others or act towards our supposed loved ones, if we watched ourselves exhibiting behavior like Kate. Children learn by observing and I shudder to think what the Gosselin children believe is respectful or loving in interactions with other kids or adults from modeling Kate.

I suspect Jon' changing, had a lot to do with maturing and observing what was happening to him and his children. Unfortunately Kate does not and will not see that she does have faults and bears responsibility for the end of her marriage and the circumstances she now founds herself in.

KyPastor said...

Driving home today I saw a church signboard:

Your home is a school.
What are you teaching?

fidosmommy said...

Alicia said...

In fairness, we've only seen those kids sitting down at what, maybe 10 meals in almost 4 years? I'm sure that while filming was going on there were delays in food prep. etc. Not to defend the filming by the way, and that's not an excuse for the kids being hungry ever but I don't think those kids are usually wanting for food.
Take a look at the tummies on all of them (the little girls at gymnastics for example). All the kids look to be a healthy weight to me. I'd be more concerned if they were chubby and living on junk food like many kids today.

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"while filming was going on there were delays in food prep."

So, the conclusion is that
if the cameras were not there, the children would be eating on time? Eating had to be delayed for filming purposes?

And they say this is simply taping what the children would normally be doing.

I'm confused.

Well, maybe not. The children took second place to filming. Got it.

goawayfools said...

re: ToysRUs. Uh, Kate, maybe the reason why this incident keeps getting rehashed is that the whole world is still waiting for you to show remorse and sincerely apologize to Jon for your unacceptable, embarrassing behavior. We'd prefer that you show true humility, apologize to him and frickin mean it. That scene made me literally flinch and wince as if someone was throwing knives at me through the tv. My entire body tensed up, my face squinched up as I watched you yell at Jon and then my mouth hung open as you tried to justify your actions. So yeah, this will be rehashed and no, I won't get over it. That is, unless you do what it takes to make it go away

JJ said...

JFaye said...
"To me the most telling thing about Kate, is that she can look at hours of herself and NOT see harmful or shocking behavior on her part. I think most of us might think twice about how we talk to others or act towards our supposed loved ones, if we watched ourselves exhibiting behavior like Kate. Children learn by observing and I shudder to think what the Gosselin children believe is respectful or loving in interactions with other kids or adults from modeling Kate."

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Amen! In this episode she also gives her fake "I had a lot of meltdowns-who knew?" and then cackles at herself. She is so clueless I just don't get it..???How does a normal person act this way?

where's Jon No more Kate said...

I am done with TLC!

Their exploitation of the children and what they have done to the children's father ended it for me. My family can't stand the way Kate treats the kids. We are done!!!

I pray someone besides Jon can give the kids warm loving care cause Kate doesn't know how!

She needs lots of counseling!!

SuzieO said...

"Julie once said that Kate has someone lined up to help her every morning.
I believe that because Jodi took them on Fridays, the Nana who rode the b-day party horse helped on a Tuesday and Thursday."

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YES! That was Nana Janet! She rode the pony at the kids b-day party and I remember noticing what a strange and self-centered way that Kate spoke of it at the time. She said something like, Suddenly all the attention shifted (from her) to Nana Janet when word spread she was about to ride the pony.

Instead of the many things Kate could have said to Janet, like have fun, or cheer her on, or take a picture, she said something like... don't get hurt I need you to babysit! It may have been a joke but was very telling.

Yes, Janet lived nearby and babysat regularly AND did all the ironing! In my mind, I can still see the bits of episodes that she was in. Alexis saying "nana's home" as Janet walked through the door and then she built a fort for them in the basement and then at the end of that episode, as she's getting ready to leave, Alexis grabs her head a plants a big ol' kiss on the end of her nose.

I have a feeling that Janet did so much more for that family then we will ever know.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"I have a feeling that Janet did so much more for that family then we will ever know."

That's what her granddaughters said on that message board underneath an obit for Nana Janet. They said she did way more for them than what we all saw on the show, and I believe that.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"I agree that Alexis is amazing because she doesn't talk like Kate like the rest of the girls. It used to be just Mady behaving like Kate, throwing tantrum and talking down others. I am very sad that even Lean and Hannah talk like Kate now. How sad most kids are products of the environment and they can hardly escape from it.

But Alexis is different. She doesn't demean others like Kate, Mady, Hannah or Leah. Alexis is all about having a good time. Any child who doesn't inherit parents' flaws and copy their bad behaviors is very special. It means that child is his or her own person and isn't easily influenced by the environment."

I've noticed it too lately; even in the way Hannah and Leah treat ALEXIS. Ever notice in those couch interviews with the three of them, they're "divided"? The two of them on a love seat and Alexis in her own chair and I don't like the expressions on Hannah and Leah's faces whenever Alexis has the floor (as she squirms and doesn't stay in her chair, lol). And Hannah getting up and yelling at Alexis that "A horse is NOT humungus!"

None of it seems to phase Alexis though; she's tough and doesn't care what everybody else thinks already at age five and that's going to help her through this.

Tony said...

"I have a feeling that Janet did so much more for that family then we will ever know."
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I have always thought so too and she
lived an hour from E-town.

Tony said...

"Amen! In this episode she also gives her fake "I had a lot of meltdowns-who knew?" and then cackles at herself. She is so clueless I just don't get it..???How does a normal person act this way?"

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Well she's not normal. Her thought process is not like ours. It's frustrating to keep expecting "normal" behavior from her and I don't know if she will ever change. --Maybe with professional help and Divine Intervention.

goawayJandK said...

Instead of the many things Kate could have said to Janet, like have fun, or cheer her on, or take a picture, she said something like... don't get hurt I need you to babysit! It may have been a joke but was very telling

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SuzieO-

I remember that as well, and I also thought that was such an odd and rude thing to say. Little did we know that K8 would only get much worse as the SEASONS (yes K8 I said SEASONS) would progress.

I also remember HOW MUCH WORK Beth, Jodi and Kevin did to help, and also K8's comment that next time she should charge people. What a bitch.

Pony said...

JJ said: "How does a normal person act this way?"

A normal person doesn't.

Pony Gate said...

Previous posters said, "Instead of the many things Kate could have said to Janet, like have fun, or cheer her on, or take a picture, she said something like... don't get hurt I need you to babysit! It may have been a joke but was very telling

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SuzieO-

I remember that as well, and I also thought that was such an odd and rude thing to say..."

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Kate also made a snide remark that when Nana Jana climbed atop the pony, "The pony was like, 'just shoot me now."

Mean & disrespectful even to the people who selflessly gave to Queen Kate.

Kate is hopeless.

Kate & The Comforter said...

Crazy said, "RE: JOEL ON THE FLOOR
Look at the episode again.

When Jon comes home and enters the Kitchen, at once Kate announces" Joel threw up on his comforter, hes a vomituous boy, no more comforters for Joel"

Imagine coming home to your sick kids and your wife is concerend about a comforter.."

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Reminiscent of the Jerry Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" episode, except NOT funny.

What MOTHER wants to be a Comforter Nazi?

Only Kate Gosselin.

SuzieO said...

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

"I have a feeling that Janet did so much more for that family then we will ever know."

That's what her granddaughters said on that message board underneath an obit for Nana Janet. They said she did way more for them than what we all saw on the show, and I believe that.
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Could you provide a link to that? I would love to read what Janet's granddaughters had to say.

I also remember Jon saying that Janet was the most out-going person he had ever met and Kate .... she only saw what's in it for her. How she can use someone or how she can make money from a situation. Like the tups 3rd. birthday, Kate is impressed at the outcome of all the work that everybody else did to make it happen and said maybe next year she will charge the neighbors... ugh! I still can't get over selling donated items. The only "giving back" that she ever did was tlc's idea AND paid for by them. I don't think she has ever really given in a legit way, from the heart.

I read she had someone lined up to help every morning. All these volunteers that we never heard of because they weren't on the show... there must be a lot of them and I'm betting they got little, if any, thanks from Katie.

Mona said...

I have a cat who has bowel problems. Nothing fatal or painful, but she poops everywhere and often. I can't imagine calling her a poopatious kitty and
giving her nothing to sleep on.
And she's my CAT, not my CHILD. If she wants to sleep on my lap, I just put down some clean towels and let her snooze. They'll wash.

Kate, you have serious priority issues, dear. Your child could not help vomiting on his comfortor.
Wash the damn thing and get over it. And let him know no matter what he does, he's your son and you love him.

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

SuzieO, I'll see if I can find it again and, if so, I'll post the link.

RE: Nana Janet, Beth, Kevin and Jodie; there had to be great love for those kids (and it showed!) to tolerate Kate the way they did.

captainbj said...

Maybe this has been reported,but the rating for this show was 1.6million viewers. The article was good. I will post the URL:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/11/jon_kate_tlc_ratings_monday.html

EnjoyYOURSELF said...

SuzieO, here it is. It's in the comments underneath the article under Dareth and Tracie:

http://www.examiner.com/x-21058-Cleveland-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m11d1-The-Gosselin-eights-Nana-Janet-dies

Alisha said...

"re: ToysRUs. Uh, Kate, maybe the reason why this incident keeps getting rehashed is that the whole world is still waiting for you to show remorse and sincerely apologize to Jon for your unacceptable, embarrassing behavior. We'd prefer that you show true humility, apologize to him and frickin mean it. That scene made me literally flinch and wince as if someone was throwing knives at me through the tv. My entire body tensed up, my face squinched up as I watched you yell at Jon and then my mouth hung open as you tried to justify your actions. So yeah, this will be rehashed and no, I won't get over it. That is, unless you do what it takes to make it go away"


I'm assuming that Kate did apologize to Jon for this one (at least I hope she did!). Jon recently stated that the show would often show the arguments and fights but that they always resolved them afterwards. TLC would only show the nasty stuff but would be sure to edit things so it looked like the conflict wasn't over.

I also read that TLC would egg the two of them into arguments when they were sitting on the couch to create drama. Jon also said that they liked making Kate into the "bad guy".

I firmly believe that TLC is at least in part responsible for the break-up but turning J and K against one another for the sake of "good TV", and they were both dumb enough to go along with it.

Jaden's Mom said...

Every time I hear about Kate, it is just so difficult for me to fathom that one person could be so incredibly horrible to anyone in her life who doesn't serve an immediate financial purpose. If there weren't film to prove it, I wouldn't believe it. Sadly, there is footage...and lots of it...to show just how horrible Kate is.

I hope she is happy when she is old and alone, and even her own kids don't want to be around her. Her house will finally be clean and organized, though. And, nobody will be there to annoy her with their behavior, which always left her with no choice but to completely blow up in their face. Finally, she will have peace, and lots of quiet.