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jon and kate are cons said...

I also attended one of their speaking engagements recently in Hershey, Pa. I have always been a fan, but not anymore. For Jon and Kate it is all about the money. There were certain questions that Kate and Jon WOULD NOT answer.
I just got a fake feeling from both of them. I can't believe that I traveled for 2 hours. It was a waste of my time. I left there feeling very depressed. If any of you are planning on going to any of their engagements, let me tell you, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME!

Onomatopoeia said...

It would serve the dyed-in-the-wool sheeples well to read this blog. How can they defend a first-hand account of the greediness of the KON machine?

You know, my grandmother used to always say 'he who serves God for money will serve the devil for better wages.' I hope these churches will wake up and smell the coffee and put an end to this ruse, once and for all.

Anonymous said...

Could you give a sample of what they refused to answer, pleasae?

Gloria said...

This family will take the cash howeever they can. They have no sense of empathy for anyone. It is always all about them all of the time and how they can amasss more money. If they don't care about pimping out their kids, they sure aren't going to care about the little people out there that they step on on their way up the ladder. They don't realize those things might just come back to bite them.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Glad this was posted..I will show this to others when they bring up the show.

I've read here all the things they have now..personal chef, new house, and a bunch of other things..just a question..how did you find out about this? Is there proof somewhere? I wish Aunt Jodi's video was still up at her sister's blog because I want to show people! Anyway, I would just like to PROVE what they have is true because people will say.."well, you can't believe everything on the internet".

JonAndKate'sMoneyMachine said...

Horrible and yet I am not surprised.

The emperor has no clothes. Some people/organizations really need to WAKE UP.

jon and kate are cons said...

Jon and Kate refused to answer questions regarding: Jodi, Kevin, Beth, Taliah Carson, (Beth's daughter and the twin's best friend) Kate's parent's, Nana Janet, Nana Joan, Mady's meltdown's and Jon and Kate's new million dollar house. In fact, more questions were refused than answered.

Anonymous said...

Well I feel bad for the writer of that blog because her illusions were broken, but I have to believe it's for the best. The more people who find out what KON is really like the better.

she's a maniac said...

This is to the anon poster who wants to prove everything. As far as Kon's blatant disregard to the public, dishonesty and most of all disloyalty to their family, friend and children it is all very well documented. However I am convinced that no matter what Kon will always have a long list of supporters who simply will not believe the truth. You know the saying, there is none so blind as he who will not see.

Anonymous said...

jon and kate are cons --
may I ask how they refused to answer -- I mean did they literally say they wouldn't talk about those people or try to avoid the topic by saying that, for example, Jodi is just fine but busy with her family?

I wonder if they outright refused to answer. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Uneducated, ungrateful, classless, tasteless mooching slugs....I ABHOR these people !! One of these days Karma will prove to be a b*tch though and I will be the first one who will grab a front row seat and applaud.

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate refused to answer questions regarding: Jodi, Kevin, Beth, Taliah Carson, (Beth's daughter and the twin's best friend) Kate's parent's, Nana Janet, Nana Joan, Mady's meltdown's and Jon and Kate's new million dollar house. In fact, more questions were refused than answered.

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Now why am I not surprised about that?

C said...

To jon and kate are cons:

What did Kon say when questions were asked about Jodi, Kevin, Beth, etc? Curious how they deflected the questions/answers?

jon and kate are cons said...

Kate was the one that would say: "We are not going to answer that question, next question". Kate was very cold. She did most of the talking. Jon just sat there like a bump on a log.

Please, save your money and time if you are thinking about going to see them. Unless of course, you want to give money to them.

Anonymous said...

You know, part of me feels badly for the author, but another part of me is thinking that it's her own fault for not being more cautious.

I try very hard to give people the benefit of the doubt, but when there are soooooooooo many negative things known/shown about someone, his/her credibility starts to break down. I have never heard from anyone who actually knows or has met either Jon or Kate that have positive things to say.

Anonymous said...

Kate was the one that would say: "We are not going to answer that question, next question". Kate was very cold. She did most of the talking. Jon just sat there like a bump on a log.
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So, by Kate saying that over and over, WHY do people not see that there is something going on behind the scenes ?

Get a Clue said...

When I hear things like that I wonder why Kate doesn't just cancel all the remaining church talks. If they don't want to answer any really reasonable questions, have learned that their tired old how poor we used to be doesn't work, and don't want to be there, why not just cancel them all? Is their greed that great that they will suffer through these for the money?

I can't wait for the first episode where the new house is shown. How on earth are they going to try to spin that if they are still trying to shill at the churches?

nancy019 said...

Well, one good thing to come out of this unholy mess, at least people are wising up enough to ASK the burning questions we all want the answers to. And KON must be feeling the heat...

ashley said...

Kon never really answers any of the hard questions, even the book (which I have read) skirts around the issues (such as where the grandparents are) but never really gives an answer other than they arent involved on a daily basis.

Anonymous said...

If they don't want to answer any really reasonable questions, have learned that their tired old how poor we used to be doesn't work, and don't want to be there, why not just cancel them all? Is their greed that great that they will suffer through these for the money?

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Yes, they are truly SHAMELESS. They believe they can hide behind their millions and never have to face the public again, but they are so deluded.

I remember when the McCaughey tups were still infants, Kenny did a public speaking circuit by himself, while Bobbie stayed home with the kids. He said in an interview that the gig only lasted a year or two, then it was back to working a real job in Iowa. Of course, KON has a TV show to fall back on, but that will not last forever. It's a shame that these two clowns can hide behind their adorable kids and play the sympathy game so easily.

Anonymous said...

Jon & Kate don't think they OWE anyone answers for their actions but they certainly believe everyone OWES them. Such entitlement from these two it is ridiculous!

Anonymous said...

"It's a shame that these two clowns can hide behind their adorable kids and play the sympathy game so easily."

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Unfortunately it isn't a game, it is the lives of 8 beautiful children. :(

upyourskon said...

KON might as well give up these money grubbing trips! People are on to them and will keep asking the questions! I would if I'd wasted time and money to go there. One question though: WHY would people waste their time and money in the first place to even bother? They read all these comments anyway, so they can just find out here what people think of them!

Lee said...

jon and kate are cons said...
Kate was the one that would say: "We are not going to answer that question, next question". Kate was very cold. She did most of the talking. Jon just sat there like a bump on a log.
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The scary thing is, there are still so many people defending these two assmunches. They will come back with "It's none of your business, Kate doesn't have to answer to you"

They don't see that these two not only use their beautiful children to support their lazy asses, but they are LIARS. They are still going around with hat in hand looking for money from hardworking people. I wish people would open their eyes!

Anonymous said...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/story?id=6291477&page=1

KON's pic is on their main page under this headline...

The MSM is finally catching on.

Lesa said...

ashley said...
Kon never really answers any of the hard questions, even the book (which I have read) skirts around the issues (such as where the grandparents are) but never really gives an answer other than they arent involved on a daily basis.

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Their parents were mentioned and Jon's dad was very involved until his passing. Sadly, he could have saved them from themselves.

The other thing about the book that makes me so sad is that it explains how J&K met all the people in their lives. She describes how Beth volunteered to feed babies and how they bonded, staying up late at night talking. Along with many others that helped them those first few years.
Now none of those people are around. NONE!
Kate needs to go back and read her own book. Take a look at what she had. Maybe it's not more important than money to her, but it certainly should be.

Anonymous said...

They treated it like a job because making money off their kids IS their job. I walk to and from work avoiding everyone's eyes, too. I see even after moving into a McMansion they are still passing around a bucket hoping for more cash from people who probably make less than 40k a year. In this economy. Shame on them.

Anonymous said...

Yes, and there are people commenting on the ABC story comments about how abborent Kate was after the tups were born, to the community.

Keep getting the word out, folks.

Anonymous said...

I can't find that ABC story, can someone tell me how to get to it?

Anonymous said...

www.abcnews.go.com,

it's on the main page, 5 or 6 stories down, about IVF and how far is going too far. They are the focus of the topic.

Becca said...

HOW CAN THEY have the nerve to still be asking for donations at churches when it is so obvious they have more money than they need????

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the link. What bothers me is that in the beginning of the article, it states that the Gosselins are "struggling with the demands of having 2 sets of multiples" or something close to that.

Why is that the only way to describe this family ? Same thing with describing Kate as supermom, or uber-organized Kate Gosselin. These "titles" are so absurd and false, yet that's what I see time and time again.
ARGH!

ashley said...

lesa:

I meant it doesnt mention why they arent there now. Kate talks alot about how much help everybody was and how she WAS so great full to have them but not once does she explain where everybody is now.

Anonymous said...

I was a disappointed when I read this. I have learned to expect such behavior from Kate, but I always thought of Jon as a nice laid back kinda guy. I always try to give them the benefit of the doubt, probably because I can't stand the thought that Jon and Kate (as they have made out to be in this blog) are raising those wonderful and adorable children. So I will once again offer my defense (it has definitely been getting harder and harder to make excuses for them). The many speaking engagements they attend may have become daunting. I have been to concerts, meet and greets and speaking engagements where the speakers/musicians acted in the same cold and selfish manner.

ashley said...

This is kinda off topic but.......

.......as I watched part of the Wednesday night KON marathon I couldnt help but realize something. I remember watching many of the episodes for the first time and thinking WOW Kate is such a cow! But as I sat watching last night I though WOW she was so much nicer then! Im sorry to say it but the more money they mooch the worse Kate gets.

Anonymous said...

I like the article's argument, except they were off on one key point: IVF is different than IUI. IVF has a much greater chance at producing multiples than IUI because the eggs are fertilized in vitro.

ashley said...

Lesa, I meant that the book doesnt explain why these people arent around now. The book does mention family members and what a big help they were to Kate, but it never says why they are gone now.

Quinn said...

Kon should be ashamed of themselves. They are still taking donations from people? They never cease to amaze me, those two. Two people that don't work and live off of their children are looking for more handouts?
I
am
just
appalled.

And to think that somebody would drive for hours to go and see them? I wish more people would see these two for what they really are!

Anonymous said...

Ashley said:

"I remember watching many of the episodes for the first time and thinking WOW Kate is such a cow!"

This may be a bit off topic, but as a member of a club called RUBI (respecting and understanding body image), I feel it's very important. I find offense to this comment just because I don't think we should judge and ridicule ANYONE based on their looks, regardless of whether or not they "look like a cow." This is why a majority of women have body complexes in our society. Now as far as their personality goes, that's a different story. I think we should avoid Kate's looks and instead focus on her personality. I love this blog and read it almost every day, but after reading the post about why comments are rejected, I'm a bit surprised that this comment was approved.

Lesa said...

ashley said...
lesa:

I meant it doesnt mention why they arent there now. Kate talks alot about how much help everybody was and how she WAS so great full to have them but not once does she explain where everybody is now.
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You are right it doesn't. The book ends about the time they move into the house we see them in now. So at that time "everyone" was still in their lives.
I guess they could have added an update to the book, to bring things to the present time.

Sorry, I wasn't attacking you, I agree with you. They don't seem to answer the hard questions.

she's a maniac said...

To the person defending Kon's rude behavior that was described, the difference between the speakers and musicians that you went to see is that they actually work and have a talent. Kon has no talent. All they have is an unrealistic sense of entitlement. That is why the vast majority of people seem to be outraged by them.

Karen said...

What I don't understand is why anybody would go to a Kon speaking engagement when you can a) watch them on TV for free, b) go to their website for free, or c) check their book out of the library for free, if you really want to hear what they have to say.

Jon is so laidback he's horizontal.

Kon Artists said...

Why doesn't this surprise me

UniStudent said...

Ashley said:

"I remember watching many of the episodes for the first time and thinking WOW Kate is such a cow!"

This may be a bit off topic, but as a member of a club called RUBI (respecting and understanding body image), I feel it's very important. I find offense to this comment just because I don't think we should judge and ridicule ANYONE based on their looks, regardless of whether or not they "look like a cow." This is why a majority of women have body complexes in our society. Now as far as their personality goes, that's a different story. I think we should avoid Kate's looks and instead focus on her personality. I love this blog and read it almost every day, but after reading the post about why comments are rejected, I'm a bit surprised that this comment was approved.

I used to live in the UK, and in Ashley's defense the term "cow" there is used in reference to someone who is unlikeable and selfish. I was shocked when I first heard it there, but it was explained to me that it in no way is meant to refer to someones appearance.

Anonymous said...

They are so unbelievable!!! Even legitimate celebrities treat their fans better. Just the sheer audacity to stick your hand out for money and then not even say thank you to people who are clearly waiting to meet you and have donated to your sham of a cause. If the show is their "job" wouldn't meeting and greeting fans be a requirement of said job? They are just gross. Kate looks like she's about 20 years older than she actually is and the show is totally fake and boring now.

Anonymous said...

My problem is while they are on all of these travels, who is taking care of their children? They seem to be gone on a lot of special speaking engagements, minus 8. :( It makes me sad.

ashley said...

unistudent:

Im sorry you took offense but I didnt mean it in a physical aspect. I simply thought it would be better then saying a b*tch. (I think more people would take offense to that.)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ashley said:

"I remember watching many of the episodes for the first time and thinking WOW Kate is such a cow!"

This may be a bit off topic, but as a member of a club called RUBI (respecting and understanding body image), I feel it's very important. I find offense to this comment just because I don't think we should judge and ridicule ANYONE based on their looks, regardless of whether or not they "look like a cow." This is why a majority of women have body complexes in our society. Now as far as their personality goes, that's a different story. I think we should avoid Kate's looks and instead focus on her personality. I love this blog and read it almost every day, but after reading the post about why comments are rejected, I'm a bit surprised that this comment was approved.

11/20/2008 2:59 PM

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Hi Anon, I am pretty sure Ashley meant Kate's behavior.

In my opinion, Kate never looked like a cow, and it is also an insult to a cow to be used as a comparison to Kate. Cows are gentle, loving animal. Kate is more like a shark or a hyena, or one of those animals who eat their young.

michelle said...

Are they now living in their big new home? Is it in NC like I think Jodi's sister may have told us on her site--Not positive though.

Will they be able to film in this new home and still request "love offerings" during the speaking engagements at these churches? Do they realize how bad this will make them look?

Anonymous said...

How DARE they continue to accept "love offerings!" What's with these churches? Passing the damn basket to put money in for KON who just got a $1.3 million home and offended us all with a despicable display of wanton greed and total lack of basic graciousness in Hawaii? These churches are insane. KON knows this is the sheeple market and that's what they're targeting. Remember when that poster (maybe on another board) said she and her friend were sitting next to KON at the Japanese restaurant in Philadelphia suburb and they overheard Kate say, "We just try to get through these church things as best we can and get them over with." I can't stand these sheeple, and neither can Kate - but she will use and abuse anybody at any time if it means cold, hard CASH. CASH - that's the God that bitch worships.

Anonymous said...

unistudent:

Im sorry you took offense but I didnt mean it in a physical aspect. I simply thought it would be better then saying a b*tch.
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If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..............

Anonymous said...

I just don't understand the sheeple and honest people who can't see Jon and Kate for the scam artists they really are.

If I went to see someone speak, and they said " we will not answer that question" even once, I would be suspicious. To me that's the verbal equivalent of a HUGE red flag.

I just don't get it...........

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I just don't understand the sheeple and honest people who can't see Jon and Kate for the scam artists they really are.
If I went to see someone speak, and they said " we will not answer that question" even once, I would be suspicious. To me that's the verbal equivalent of a HUGE red flag.
I just don't get it...........
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You're right. It's a no brainer. For KON to be on stage and answer every question with "We will not answer that question," is beyond mere "suspicion." It's more like, "WTF???" When are the sheeple going to start getting offended by this rude blow-off answer? They really are mentally backward - truly stellar members of the Double-Digit IQ Club.

Chris said...

This story about them not answering questions is not hard to believe. They are about themselves and how much they can get. They don't care about the fans.
As far as the die hard fans, they wouldn't believe it. They would say the poster was lying.

ThreeFarmers said...

I think that it's hilarious that they pretend that they prove that their life is some open book by having the cameras in their house, but then they can't a few obvious questions about people THEY introduced to us via their show.

In a few years when J&K have finally realize what damage the show and, ultimately, their greed have done to their family, I can just hear them saying, "We didn't know!" and "Everyone was just jealous and they built us up only to rip us down!"

I don't think J&K will ever take responsibility for the mess that awaits them. They will play dumb (not much of a stretch) and blame everyone else.

Anonymous said...

Oh, forgot one more thing in my last post ( I just don't get it...)

When Kate is begging and pleading for $ saying that they will need xxx for the kids in the future: again, I am amazed that Kate thinks HER children's needs are everyone else's responsibility, that HER children's needs warrant the same priority as everyone else's own children.

Sorry to disappoint you Kate, but I'm not gonna take $ out of my own child's fund for his braces (which he will get next year for the low, low price of $3000) so your child can get braces ( as much as I like the G kids)..

Anonymous said...

The host on ABC news GMA mentioned Beth Carson helping with 'THE BOOK'. Kate said 'correct' and moved right on into making her organic meat loaf. The kids were once again noisy and disruptive while Kate waved them off saying they needed to "share, please, I'm cooking". Jon played nice with the kids on the floor while Kate talked about her hearty meatloaf recipe which she's 'developed over the years'. Yes, thats right we're talking about meatloaf here. When she was finished all the hosts gathered around the dish and talked about it as if she'd just thrown together Peking Duck for 10 in less than twenty minutes.

Please god, don't let her show up on Food Network.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Recipes/story?id=6039325

Anonymous said...

The host on ABC news GMA mentioned Beth Carson helping with 'THE BOOK'. Kate said 'correct' and moved right on into making her organic meat loaf. The kids were once again noisy and disruptive while Kate waved them off saying they needed to "share, please, I'm cooking".
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I thought Robin's reaction to this was funny. She kind of said, "ooh!" in a way that sounded like she thought Kate was harsh.

rosey in washington said...

One question though: WHY would people waste their time and money in the first place to even bother?

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If Jon and Kate ever did come to my town I WOULD DEFINATELY go to their show...even if if did cost me money (for the ticket,I would NEVER be coned by their love offering crap).

Here is what I would do. I would get a seat at close to the front as I could, and I would stand in line patiently to "ask them a question" and then when it was my turn I would say, "Well Jon and Kate, since you won't answer any questions that REALLY matter, I just came here to tell you that me and millions of other people think that you are the most selfish, lazy people on earth. And Kate, you are SUCH a snob and the biggest liar ever. I don't understand why you are so snobby to the public, but you have absolutely NO reason to be. PS- I hope you read the blog Gosselins Without Pity DAILY." Oh and I would also turn around, face the crowd, and let EVERYONE know as much TRUTH about them that I possibly could before someone kicked me out....LOL.

Oh wow, now I'm excited for them to come here!

Dew said...

Maybe Kon walks with their heads down on these speaking engagements avoiding everyone's eyes because they feel the slightest amount of guilt for taking away money from good people who will never come close to the amount of money they have made for doing NOTHING? Money that would have been spent on that person's child's braces, SAT prep book, college fund, birthday present. Seriously how do they live with themselves? They have enough money to feed, clothe and provide their children with everything wonderful in life. In this kind of economy I don't know how they can even dream of asking for a handout. It also ceases to amaze me why they are not thoroughly embarrassed to be holding their hands out STILL. When you are doing it to feed your kids, you put your pride aside. But now? Kind of like how you don't often see garage sales in the mansion district of town. It's embarrassing. What's wrong with them???

Anonymous said...

I just read ABC News link...then
wrote letter to ABC News. Folks,
that is what we all should be doing. Send letters to any and
all Investigative Reporters we
can think of...

beanjeepin said...

"My problem is while they are on all of these travels, who is taking care of their children? They seem to be gone on a lot of special speaking engagements, minus 8. :( It makes me sad."

I had a thought the other day - they film 3-4 days a week, right? And presumably these speaking engagements/other shows/promotions are 2-3 days out of some weeks? So, either these kids are working or their parents are GONE? Nice.

Anonymous said...

Just curious anyone know if KON is breaking any laws? It seems to me this could be considered some kind of fraud maybe. It really seems more and more like a scam what they are doing. Even if it's not illegal you would think a few police investigations would set them straight (although this is KON) All I know was if I donated my money to someone who falsely portrayed themselves as being needy, I would not stop till I got all my money back.

melibee said...

I'm surprised that J&K would still be acting so hostile and rude during speaking commitments - ONLY because they hired a PR firm didn't they? Wouldn't they be then fed proper behavior to market themselves *successfully* at these venues?
It won't take long for the churches to get the word out to other churches that J&K are a sham and to stay clear of them.

I'm so sick of these two! Sick sick sick.

inksmudge said...

Michelle, they must be living in their new house by now because Jon walked into the UPS Store that I frequent (I live in Berks County, not too far away from J&K) while I was there last week.

Anonymous said...

The OP didn't mention whether the church took up a 'love offering' for the Gosselins or if they sold pictures for the children's "college fund".

If they did either, I would be even more digusted with them...if that's possible.

Anonymous said...

I like the article's argument, except they were off on one key point: IVF is different than IUI. IVF has a much greater chance at producing multiples than IUI because the eggs are fertilized in vitro.

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People need to get their facts straight.

IVF has a LOWER risk of multiples, because the number of embryos is controlled when put back in the mother's uterus.

IUI has a HIGHER risk of multiples, as the mother can ovulate many eggs at one time (ie., the Gosselins) and they can inseminate resulting in HOM.

I am so sick of these things getting confused. It's NOT that difficult!

Anonymous said...

They are still passing collection buckets at their speaking engagements?? I can't imagine the nerve these two must have. You have to look at it this way, however...it's not THEIR fault it's ANYONE'S fault who pays money to see their "talks" and who actually puts money into these buckets. Why let yourself be fooled like that??

Anonymous said...

They are the new Jim and Tammy Fay Baker. Using their "Christianity" for gain. The Bakers did finally fall. Hopefully these two con artists will also fall. Trouble is, when they do go down, how can they pay for that house? I assume they will be making payments, unless, of course, they plunked down that healthy $1.3 million all at once. The taxes will still come rolling around yearly. Jon needs to get himself in gear, act like a man, and support that family "by the sweat of his brow."

Anonymous said...

I can remember one episode that Kate did mention that she spanks the kids when they need it. Can anyone remember which episode it was?

Anonymous said...

Not only will Jon and Kate have to pay taxes on that huge house, they also have to pay homeowner's insurance. If they can't pay then the bank will foreclose on them and they will have to move back to their old home. (if they haven't sold it).

Anonymous said...

To Shasha222: Onthe front page
of the Blog, the Mods have a section entitled "How you can help"
when I write letters, I get back form letters thanking me for writing. But when I wrote Discovery, I got back a second email saying they would forward my letter to another department for review as they take complaints such as mine seriously.
Everyone--Keep writing your
complaint letters about child
exploation. It can not hurt, and very well may help these children.

jon and kate are cons said...

I can tell you that one of the questions that Kate did answer at the speaking engagement was regarding discipline. She said that she either spanks them or sends them to time-out. She said it depended on what that child had done or did not do. She talked like she was very pro-spanking.

Lesa said...

rosey in washington said...
Here is what I would do. I would get a seat at close to the front as I could, and I would stand in line patiently to "ask them a question" and then when it was my turn I would say, "Well Jon and Kate, since you won't answer any questions that REALLY matter, I just came here to tell you that me and millions of other people think that you are the most selfish, lazy people on earth. And Kate, you are SUCH a snob and the biggest liar ever. I don't understand why you are so snobby to the public, but you have absolutely NO reason to be. PS- I hope you read the blog Gosselins Without Pity DAILY." Oh and I would also turn around, face the crowd, and let EVERYONE know as much TRUTH about them that I possibly could before someone kicked me out....LOL.

When you go, be sure to get a video of it. I could love to see their faces!

Anonymous said...

In response to: You have to look at it this way, however...it's not THEIR fault it's ANYONE'S fault who pays money to see their "talks" and who actually puts money into these buckets. Why let yourself be fooled like that??

It is their fault for being evasive about the fact that they are not in need and for continuing to take advantage of people's generousity. I don't think the people that are giving them money are doing it so that Kon can save for the future and build a never-ending nest egg. They give because they think they are helping a family in need and are not aware of Kon's more than comfortable situation. If Jon and Kate had any integrity they would stop exploiting their children and they would stop taking donations from these churches for themselves when they could be given to families who are truly in need.

qtrfan said...

I watched the ABC show where Kate is making the meat loaf. She keeps pushing that hair out of her face with her hand and then uses that hand to pick up the meat. Ewwww.

I thought she was a germaphob????

Anonymous said...

I don't think it's fair to compare Kon to Jim and Tammy Faye (may she rest in peace). Jim and Tammy were held accountable for their wrongdoing and were more then vilified and punished for their deeds. On the other hand Kon has thousands of sheeple who still burry their heads in the sand and believe their stories and throw more and more money to them. It's almost as if no one can even question Kon for these things because they are so well protected and insolated.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she's germaphobe when it suites her. She wasn't a germaphobe when she let her little girl put her face on the seat in the plane. And now she's not one with the meatloaf. It could just be another one of her ways to draw attention to herself.

Anonymous said...

Why the bibs? Because Kate doesn't want any dirty clothes to wash. The twins were helping becuase Jon and Kate were tired? Well, remember that Kate is not a morning person and Jon's just plain lazy. Those tups still need to have an adult around. Mady and Cara can only do so much for their age. (feed the tups COLD cereal)
So I guess that Jon and Kate probably sleep till noon. By then the tups are eating their lunch. Not much then for Jon and Kate to do. Sounds very sad to me. I'm sure that the noise level is still loud though. I'm not sure that I would trust Mady alone with six little kids.

Anonymous said...

One night this week Jon and Kate were on TLC during the dinner hour. I was not watching it (as I do not have personal chefs) but I was listening to it while I was cooking. I heard Kate say that she was brought up in a very strict household and Jon was raised in a lenient household. I am not what edpisode it was. This may explain her reasoning about spanking...as maybe she was spanked as a child.

Anonymous said...

Why the bibs? Because Kate doesn't want any dirty clothes to wash. The twins were helping becuase Jon and Kate were tired? Well, remember that Kate is not a morning person and Jon's just plain lazy. Those tups still need to have an adult around. Mady and Cara can only do so much for their age. (feed the tups COLD cereal)
So I guess that Jon and Kate probably sleep till noon. By then the tups are eating their lunch. Not much then for Jon and Kate to do. Sounds very sad to me. I'm sure that the noise level is still loud though. I'm not sure that I would trust Mady alone with six little kids.

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The nanny and chef must have been off that day. I would not trust those twins with kids. No way. They resent them.

Anonymous said...

I was Googling the Gosselin's and PA's 529 TAP plan. Trying to see if there was any info about 'making a contribution'. I found a link to a Reading Eagle blog, wasn't able to bring up the original article, but the blog responses are a hoot. Keep in mind these were written in 2005 & are by residents of Berks County. Read the fifth entry ... it was written by 'God'.

http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/here_we_go_agai.html

Anonymous said...

I believe this was the original announcement about the college funds.

Lt. Governor Knoll Remarks
“Gosselin Six” Birthday Party
May 12, 2005

There is no need to be coy about this celebration today.

This is far more than a birthday party. It is recognition that the Gosselins have given a whole new meaning to the concept of Mother’s Day!

I am a proud, outspoken, no-doubt-about-it fan of the great treasures of Pennsylvania. I can bend anyone’s ear about Valley Forge National Park or Independence Hall or the Library Hall or the Pocono’s, or Pennsylvania Dutch Country or the Carnegie Institute, or a hundred other places—but today, in this place, at this time, the Number 1 Pennsylvania treasure is the Gosselin Six.

I’ve been asked often: “Who are the best-known people in Pennsylvania?”

The temptation is to answer with names like Benjamin Franklin, Marlan Anderson, Arnold Palmer, Grace Kelly, Johnny Unitas, Margaret Mead—so many others—but the short-form response about Pennsylvania’s best known people is simply to say: Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel, and, of course, their beautiful big sisters, Cara & Madelyn.

My amazement continues. When this hockey team was born a year ago, I instantly recalled the responsibility and workload I experienced in raising four children—and their arrivals were spread out over a period of time.

To have six show up at the door on the same day, each saying, “Feed me. Clothe me. Shelter me. Guide me.” —well, that is a challenge of staggering dimensions.

But a challenge the Gosselins have energetically accepted.

And so has the “village.”

By that I mean the “It-takes-a-village” reference Hilary Clinton made so famous. The way friends and neighbors, and in many instances, the whole state, have rallied around this family is a very special story.

As Don Harold once said, babies are such a nice way to start people!

I’ve always believed that a baby is God’s opinion that life should be regarded as precious, and that no child should be starved for food, for education, or for love.

Every year in Pennsylvania we welcome over 140,000 new babies. That the Gosselins chose to escalate that number dramatically in 2004 is an occasion worthy of all the celebration we can bring it.

I try to picture 49 years from now when Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel will get together for their 50th birthday party. There will be more candles at that event than there were at the Vatican a few weeks ago. It will look like the runway lights have been turned on at an airport.

Somewhere in between this birthday and that one, there will be a lot of other milestones to celebrate — multiplied by six. Six first days of school, six first dates, six drivers’ licenses, six college tuitions…

I know that all parents think about these milestones, especially how they are going to provide their children with a college education. For Kate and Jonathan, I’m sure they think about this often.

That is why, for my gift to the Gosselin Family on this very special occasion, I am opening accounts for all eight of the Gosselin children through the Tuition Account Program, which I had a hand in creating when I served as Pennsylvania State Treasurer.

Contributions to these accounts will accrue throughout the children’s lives and be available to them once it comes time to attend college.

If you would like to make a contribution to the Gosselin Family’s TAP account, you can do so by making your check payable to “TAP 529,” writing “Gosselin” in the memo portion of the check, and sending your contributions to: Gosselin Sextuplets and Twins Accounts, TAP Bureau, 218 Finance Building, Harrisburg, PA 17120. More information on the Tuition Account Program can be obtained by calling 1-800-440-4000 or by visiting the Treasury website and clicking on Tuition Account Program.

Happy Mother’s Day, Kate and Jonathan. Pennsylvania is proud of you and this wonderful six-pack whose birthday we honor today. Congratulations, and many blessings for a healthy, happy, and prosperous future for your family!


There really isn't any way to know what money is in them.

Anonymous said...

While flipping through channels this afternoon I happened to watch a re run of J & K + 8 episode titled, 'Cutting Room Floor'. The exploitation of the tuplets in this episode is above and beyond disturbing!! The video footage of one of the boys tups lying on the bed while getting his diaper put on, exposing his genitalia, video footage of one of the girl tups putting on her underwear, lower nudity (although genitalia vaguely blurred), footage of two boy tups taking a bath genitalia blurred. IMO, these images of the minor Gosselin are beyond exploitive. Regardless of the fact that the genitalia was blurred, the fact that a camera and production crew were present and filming these children in various stages of undress for entertainment purposes is...I cant even find the words to express my disgust.

Anonymous said...

There is no way I would trust Mady and Cara to take care of the sextuplets. I can't believe that Jon and Kate are so lazy. (or maybe I can)

Anonymous said...

http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/here_we_go_agai.html
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Oh my gosh! What a hoot! Even back in 05 they were on to them. There is a lengthy one from a member of the media describing her reaction to the home makeover and quotes her as saying 'horrendously horrendous' back then! WHY did the sheeple get fooled when their own town and volunteers knew back then how hideous they are!

Wendy Bird said...

Anonymous said...

While flipping through channels this afternoon I happened to watch a re run of J & K + 8 episode titled, 'Cutting Room Floor'. The exploitation of the tuplets in this episode is above and beyond disturbing!! The video footage of one of the boys tups lying on the bed while getting his diaper put on, exposing his genitalia, video footage of one of the girl tups putting on her underwear, lower nudity (although genitalia vaguely blurred), footage of two boy tups taking a bath genitalia blurred. IMO, these images of the minor Gosselin are beyond exploitive. Regardless of the fact that the genitalia was blurred, the fact that a camera and production crew were present and filming these children in various stages of undress for entertainment purposes is...I cant even find the words to express my disgust.

11/21/2008 4:46 PM

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This is disturbing! Someone needs to notify Paul Peterson of this episode before his appearance on The O'Reilly Factor. (The date he is supposed to be on was posted, but I don't remember it.)

What kind of network thinks that it is acceptable to, not only tape these very private moments, but to splice them all together into pedophile's dream episode? TLC has crossed the line onto a very slippery slope.

Anonymous said...

What I witness and hear of J & K today, If I were an individual who sent money towards the Gosselin children's TAP account, I would be doing some homework to make sure that my investment towards the Gosselin children's future college education was still intact and accounted for! Because according to J & K, there are NO college funds established for their children.

Get a Clue said...

LOL. As almost everyone here has figure out they lie. I'm sure somehow Kate has convinced herself that it isn't lying, but I'm not sure how.

Anonymous said...

I would not trust those twins with kids. No way. They resent them.

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Regardless of whether Cara and Mady are/are not good with the tups, KON should not be relying on 8 year olds to take care them.

My 10 year old will help with with little things ( his little brother is 3)- like refilling his cup (not sippy, either), getting his socks upstairs if I've forgotten them, play with him while I make dinner,stuff like that. I would NEVER ask or expect him to feed his little brother breakfast while I am still in bed.

For crying out loud, does Kate do ANY parenting to her children ? And, unfortunately, Jon is becoming worse and worse. Ridiculous.

babeeberry said...

Wendy Bird said~~

What kind of network thinks that it is acceptable to, not only tape these very private moments, but to splice them all together into pedophile's dream episode? TLC has crossed the line onto a very slippery slope.

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TLC has been crossing the line for a while with children. Just today I was watching an episode of Baby Story..a little one month old boy was shown completely naked getting his first "tub" bath. No blurring, no washcloth covering his privates...nothing. I realize the parents should have covered him up, but the people in charge of editing should catch it and not air it. I don't care if the child is 1 day or 10 years old. Children should not be naked on TV for any reason. Shame on TLC, really. TLC's is laughing all the way to the bank though I'm sure.

Anonymous said...

I was telling a friend about Kon and she said her daughter's friend was working at Sesame Place over the summer and saw the Gosselins when they were there. She said Kate was snotty and was ordering everyone around. No one liked her.

I know it's nothing new here but thought I'd put it out there.

Anonymous said...

"This is disturbing! Someone needs to notify Paul Peterson of this episode before his appearance on The O'Reilly Factor. (The date he is supposed to be on was posted, but I don't remember it.)"
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Paul Petersen was on the O'Reilly Factor with his former co-star, Shelley Fabares, on November 7th. I did not see it, but I think his focus was more on his own personal experience on the Donna Reed Show as a child. I wonder if he got into children and reality TV shows at all. Does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

About the nudity, that is absolutely abusive in my book. Maybe I'm too overly cautious but maybe a parent cant be too cautious this day and age. I can honestly tell you that when we have company over, and my one year old needs her diaper changed even though it's my house and her changing table is downstairs I take her up on my bed and change her. Not too long ago I got into a huge argument with my husband because during dinner at his mother's house, his sister grabbed for the baby to change her for me but I did not allow it. I did it. And it's not so much that I don't trust family, but that is MY daughter. And one day she will grow up, and when she does, I am sure she would much rather not hear random relatives tell her countless times how they 'used to change her diapers'. I do it for her own privacy, because she is a baby, and she can't speak for herself yet.

Jon and Kate need to strap it the eff on. No one with a camera, and I mean NO ONE, should be within a hundred yards of those kids in any state of undress. I don't care how much they are offering you. It's sick.

rosey in washington said...

Speaking of past episodes, I have watched 2 over the last couple of days that have really caught my attention:

1) I have comcast, and with it comes On Demand. Well, of course Jon and Kate plus 8 is on demand and they have multiple 4-5 minute mini-episodes that show little events that have not been shown in the regular episodes. Well, last night I watched one where the 'tups were really little still, probably like MAYBE 2 and the whole family goes apple picking. Jon and Kate are on the couch of course at the end (it was filmed during the stage where Jon has his beard...remember how long ago that was?) and Jon SERIOUSLY says that he LOVES having a job to go to, that he can't believe how Kate does it day after day, and that HE WOULD NEVER WANT TO STAY AT HOME FULL-TIME...and then again he says how much he loves having a job to go to because he could not handle staying at home all the time with the kids. HA! Obviously so much has changed!

2) Has anyone else noticed that at the very end of the Sight and Sound episode Jon and Kate do alot of damage control?? I am almost positive that this episode was filmed around the same time that they disowned Jodi for CARING, because they say over and over how they are trying not to have as many helpers anymore, and now that the kids are older they only need one helper (Jenny). And Kate didn't even give Jenny enough respect to call her an actual helper, I think she called her "somewhat of a helper." They said some other things too that were CLEARLY damage control, but I can't remember them right now.

Christine said...

Anonymous said...
"This is disturbing! Someone needs to notify Paul Peterson of this episode before his appearance on The O'Reilly Factor. (The date he is supposed to be on was posted, but I don't remember it.)"
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Paul Petersen was on the O'Reilly Factor with his former co-star, Shelley Fabares, on November 7th. I did not see it, but I think his focus was more on his own personal experience on the Donna Reed Show as a child. I wonder if he got into children and reality TV shows at all. Does anyone know?

11/21/2008 9:31 PM

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Regarding Paul Petersen's & the O'Reilly factor - no, he hasn't been on yet. According to Paul Petersen's website, he didn't appear in November on Bill O'Reilly and is scheduled to be on the first week in December.

On Paul Petersen's website:

Current News

The Bill O’Reilly interview with Shelley Fabares and Paul Petersen scheduled for November 7th has been moved to the first week in December ’08. We’ll let you know about the specific date as soon as we know.

Emma said...

Anonymous said:

"People need to get their facts straight.

IVF has a LOWER risk of multiples, because the number of embryos is controlled when put back in the mother's uterus.

IUI has a HIGHER risk of multiples, as the mother can ovulate many eggs at one time (ie., the Gosselins) and they can inseminate resulting in HOM.

I am so sick of these things getting confused. It's NOT that difficult!"

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This is not entirely true. The chance of conceiving multiples varies among each treatment depending on the reason for infertility (ie: sperm count, FT problems, etc). If a woman has PCOS (as in J&K's case), IVF would have a greater chance for producing multiples. While the number of fertilized eggs placed into the FT or the uterus is controlled, multiple zygotes are still implanted to increase chances of conception. This is why many couples elect to use IVF after unsuccessful attempts using IUI.

It's not a black and white issue. There are many factors to consider when choosing infertility treatments. Just because one treatment would have a greater chance of multiples for one couple, we can't assume this means the same thing for everyone else. If you don't believe me, go ahead and look it up.

Lonnyswife said...

For the anon poster who mentioned Paul Peterson's appearance on Bill O'Reilly:
It was scheduled for Nov. 7th but has been re-scheduled to air on Dec. 8th

ThreeFarmers said...

Paul Petersen was on the O'Reilly Factor with his former co-star, Shelley Fabares, on November 7th. I did not see it, but I think his focus was more on his own personal experience on the Donna Reed Show as a child. I wonder if he got into children and reality TV shows at all. Does anyone know?

The Paul Petersen appearance has been rescheduled for November 7th.

I believe that Mr. P is well aware of what goes on on J&K+8. I've written him regarding the inappropriateness of what is shown and I'm confident that many others here have done so as well.

Kimber said...

I'm not sure where to put this comment, but I have a question for the administrator's of this site. WHen or How do you decide to close a discussion? I've read the comments about the 'blogs' and how you scan them, but today I went to comment on two sites and both were closed by 'admin.'..one of the sites hadn't even started, the "To Believe it or not". Why would one admin. put up a discussion blog and the next come and close it ???
PLEASE answer as I"m sure a LOT of us are curious!
Thankyou

Sharla said...

Some posts are informational only and are never intended to have comments. The one about believe or not has never had comments opened. There are some times when we need to put out information that isn't up for a full discussion on the blog.

I close older posts to keep our workload within limits. In fact, I'm getting ready to go close another cluster. If you feel you have something absolutely pertinent that was not brought up on a topic, you may email me to see if it's worth reopening the topic or starting a new one. Unless a topic is getting too heated or redundant, we leave them open for at least a month usually. Ones where the discussion has wandered too far off topic or started turning into an argument can get closed sooner.

sandyjean said...

OMG~I was such a huge fan of them, until I read this person's blog. That is soo incredibly sad! How dissapointing. They are obviously sick of being questioned, because of the short answers. BUT they are not sick of recieving the money they get! I did not know they were selling pictures of their kids? Thats bogus. They have turned from a normal budgeting family to a celebrity who's got their heads so far up their butts, their ego's are so extremly high. I actually enjoyed reading the book too. Its so sad that they have turned into that kind of people. To turn away from friends and family for fame. I sure hope that when this fame ends, that their family takes them back. So so so sad! I was actually really uncomfortable watching them get married in Hawaii, but thats a whole other subject! Gosh I used to really really enjoy them! UGH!

In the Immortal Words of Gregory House said...

"...everybody lies..."

Wow, House must have lived in PA! Maybe he's a neighbor...

Anonymous said...

"To turn away from friends and family for fame. I sure hope that when this fame ends, that their family takes them back. So so so sad!"
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As to family - specifically Charlene and Kenton, Kate's parents - Kate cut them out around the time the tups came home from the hospital (approximately summer/fall 2004). This means the full estrangement has been effective for more than four years now. That's a long time, especially in the lives of the tups who essentially do not even know their grandparents at all. So, if by a veritable miracle, Kenton and Charlene were "allowed" back in, the tups would not even know them. Secondly, would Kenton and Charlene be able to forgive Kate - not only for dumping them and cutting them off, but for exploiting the tups and twins in general? I wonder what Charlene says to her co-workers there at the college? It must be awkward and uncomfortable for her. Every Monday night her co-workers see Kate and Jon act like lazy, tacky, and mean morons. And they know Charlene was banished years ago - it's all over the media. How does Charlene do it? I did notice quite some time ago that they removed her photo from the "staff pictures" section of the college's website. I wonder if people were calling her at work or something. It's just a horrific situation.

ThreeFarmers said...

"People need to get their facts straight.

IVF has a LOWER risk of multiples, because the number of embryos is controlled when put back in the mother's uterus.

IUI has a HIGHER risk of multiples, as the mother can ovulate many eggs at one time (ie., the Gosselins) and they can inseminate resulting in HOM.

I am so sick of these things getting confused. It's NOT that difficult!"



You know, new people find this site everyday. Some are more knowledgeable than others when it comes to fertility treatments.

It is helpful to remember that topics and conversations often get repeated every couple of months because there is a new batch of people who find the site and don't realize that a topic has already been discussed.

Issues should be repeated now and then so more people have access to the truth. That's why comments like "Hey, we should all start writing TLC, Figure 8, and the show's sponsors to complain." get through. Many of us have written many letters, but it's unrealistic to assume that new people finding GWOP know that.

Anonymous said...

TLC has been crossing the line for a while with children. Just today I was watching an episode of Baby Story..a little one month old boy was shown completely naked getting his first "tub" bath. No blurring, no washcloth covering his privates...nothing. I realize the parents should have covered him up, but the people in charge of editing should catch it and not air it. I don't care if the child is 1 day or 10 years old. Children should not be naked on TV for any reason. Shame on TLC, really. TLC's is laughing all the way to the bank though I'm sure.

11/21/2008 7:53 PM
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I am not sure about "Baby Story" but I watch "Bringing Home Baby" often and I've always been impressed by how they blur the genitalia of the infant.

Anonymous said...

As stated in a different post, I emailed TLC strongly suggesting that they never ever show children of any age nude or on the toilet, etc (because it's inappropriate, disgusting, offensive and unneccessary). This was their response.

Dear Viewer:

Thank you for contacting Discovery Communications. We appreciate your correspondence and for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns with us. Given the issues you raised, we have forwarded your comments to our program management and executives for review. Feedback is encouraged and will help them plan for future programs. It is these types of comments that contribute to creating change and improving programming.

By their nature, documentaries express the view of the filmmaker. Our networks present viewers with a window to the world and expose people to a wide variety of issues. While not all viewers will agree with the perspective of every program, we allow our viewers to draw their own conclusions about what they see.

Again, thank you for contacting Discovery Communications.
Sincerely,

Viewer Relations
Discovery Communications

Since they clearly state that feedback is encouraged, I suggest everyone that takes issue with the nudity/toilet scenes write to them. Maybe a letter writing campaign will help stop this.

ps - I don't buy their crap about the view of the filmmaker, etc.

Anonymous said...

As stated in a different post, I emailed TLC strongly suggesting that they never ever show children of any age nude or on the toilet, etc (because it's inappropriate, disgusting, offensive and unneccessary). This was their response.
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Just another blanket statement that means squat. (not that I don't commend your efforts). At least you received a response at all - I have only received 2 and I've written about 15.

Moons in Leo said...

There was another full page TLC ad in today's NY Times featuring the overproductive Gosselins in 'remarriage' regalia. Highest rated show in their history or some such nonsense.

You'll be happy to know that Thanksgiving programming on TLC will feature these turkeys all day.

potsysmom said...

How disappointing it must be for those who go to a church service hoping to be "inspired" and leave feeling bad. It seems to be a contradiction to speaking at a church. Isn't church supposed to lift you up, not make you sad?

Anonymous said...

There was another full page TLC ad in today's NY Times featuring the overproductive Gosselins in 'remarriage' regalia. Highest rated show in their history or some such nonsense

Good, these viewers saw Kon in all of their freebie glory. The more that see these 2 kon artists, the more their true colors will begin to show.

Anonymous said...

What blows my mind more than anything is that there are people that think Kate Gosselin has all the answers about parenting because she had a fertility treatment that produced six babies.What makes her any more enlightened or knowledgeable than women who do it with one child?And from the looks of the children they are getting the short end of the stick(lack of attention and bonding with either parent)Eventhough both are stay at home.

Anonymous said...

Soooo...im going to see KON (for free, mind you. i WOULD NEVER pay to see these two fools) in a few weeks in atlanta. i expect them to be rude and grumpy, but i want to see how they act in person. i really cant stand these two, bit i am curious!
i should ask them a REAL good question, huh?! hmmm, help me think of something...

jon and kate are cons said...

The people that think that Kate Gosselin has all the answers about parenting aren't thinking at all. It's very obvious that Kate has no clue as to how to be a good parent. What good parent would put their four year old child alone in a basement to sleep? What good parent would keep exploiting their children for monetary gain? What good parent would let their children be shown on national television in their underwear? What good parent would make their sick child sleep on the floor in the laundry room? I could be here all day listing the may ways that Kate is not a good parent, but I think you can see for yourself what I mean.

carlsbad05 said...

Not sure where to post this comment. I just watched an old episode on TLC - the one where they take the twins to American Girl. Even though the girls were acting spoiled and Kate was bossing Jon around, I remembered why most of us started watching this show. It was endearing and sweet. They made mistakes and were still embarrassed to be in front of the camera. They were grateful for the "freebies" they got at American Girl. They were real. Sadly, this has all changed. I don't even watch the new episodes anymore because it's so obnoxious.

Anonymous said...

Soooo...im going to see KON (for free, mind you. i WOULD NEVER pay to see these two fools) in a few weeks in atlanta. i expect them to be rude and grumpy, but i want to see how they act in person. i really cant stand these two, bit i am curious!
i should ask them a REAL good question, huh?! hmmm, help me think of something...
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Do all your kids still have that college account the state of PA opened up what are your limits when it comes to the kids being filmed as in nudity, private moments, etc. Then watch Kate answer 'we will not answer that. next'

Anonymous said...

To Anon 10:58 AM

There are a couple questions I would like someone to ask, although I'm sure they have been asked before at other 'speaking engagements'.

Why are the tups still wearing bibs and drinking out of sippy cups as they are now almost 5 years old? Shouldn't they be fine-turning their motor skills. (I remember there was an epsiode where the tups were doing crafts at home and Kate said something along the lines that the tups had trouble with using the scissors to cut paper and that was her fault for them being behind on that so they were doing that to catch up).

How is it possible that you arrived at the conculsion that your tups and twins wanted to contiune with the show? PLEASE. they are only 4 and 8 years old. They do not have the mentality ability to form that kind of opinion and their needs are very different from adults. Therefore it's not realistic to accept 'approval' from an 4 years old child that they shall contiune with the show.

What moral values are you teaching your children? Are you teaching them to be individuals and express their own opinions/thoughts?

Why are the tups insolated from other children their age since they were given private lessons at Gymobree (sp?). How are they forming their socialization and congvitive skills beside sunday school?

Have you sough professional help in regards to the tup's speech and language skills?

Why do the tups hit and whine so much?

Just to name a few...

Anonymous said...

I am trying to view http://high-five.net?p=421 to read what the lady who went to see Jon and Kate at a speaking engagement had to say, but it tells me that it's an error. Can anyone help me?

I'm not much help, but the link opens fine for me.

ThreeFarmers said...

Here is a quick glance at some major news stories broken by the National Enquirer over the years.

1987 - Gary Hart affair with Donna Rice

More recently

2001 - Rev. Jesse Jackson's illegitimate child.

2003 - Rush Limbaugh's addiction to prescription drugs.

2008 - John Edwards affair.

All big news stories and all broken by the National Enquirer. Is a lot of their reporting gossipy? Sure. But there is enough accurate reporting to make the networks pay attention.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To Anon 10:58 AM

There are a couple questions I would like someone to ask, although I'm sure they have been asked before at other 'speaking engagements'.

Why are the tups still wearing bibs and drinking out of sippy cups as they are now almost 5 years old? Shouldn't they be fine-turning their motor skills. (I remember there was an epsiode where the tups were doing crafts at home and Kate said something along the lines that the tups had trouble with using the scissors to cut paper and that was her fault for them being behind on that so they were doing that to catch up).

How is it possible that you arrived at the conculsion that your tups and twins wanted to contiune with the show? PLEASE. they are only 4 and 8 years old. They do not have the mentality ability to form that kind of opinion and their needs are very different from adults. Therefore it's not realistic to accept 'approval' from an 4 years old child that they shall contiune with the show.

What moral values are you teaching your children? Are you teaching them to be individuals and express their own opinions/thoughts?

Why are the tups insolated from other children their age since they were given private lessons at Gymobree (sp?). How are they forming their socialization and congvitive skills beside sunday school?

Have you sough professional help in regards to the tup's speech and language skills?

Why do the tups hit and whine so much?

Just to name a few...

11/24/2008 1:52 PM

No way in he** will J & K acknowledge and answer the above questions. Now if you were to ask J & K about their FREE all expense paid trip to Hawaii, they will be grinning from ear to ear eager and willing to answer. All that nonsense about morals and the tups behavior is simply not their 'thing'.

mk said...

Kate will be in the Houston area speaking at a Proverbs 31 (Kate Gosselin... what a joke for that!)Ministries "Girls Night Out" on January 22, 2009.

http://www.ksbj.org/details_special_events.php?Id=95

It's on a Thursday night.

Anonymous said...

Ticket Prices:
Reserved - $30 plus service fees

Sounds like it's one that Katie Irene will get to pocket her $25,000 speaking fee with that ticket price. I can't see what we make people cough up money to see some one whose only claim to fame was giving birth to fertility treatment gone wrong sextuplets and prayed God would kill some in utero. Ick, I really wonder what type of Christian that takes to want to celebrate a woman like her.

Anonymous said...

As for the questions to ask at church, then in that case, ask them who paid for their renewal/wedding/vacation. Ask them if it was right for them to do it in this manner. I would like to tell to their face if they could not have afforded it, SO WHAT? They could have saved up for it like most people do and make the plans themselves. After isn’t that the normal way to do it? Why would they think they were entitled to a free trip to BOTH Hawaii and San Diego and free wedding wardrobe? What they are doing is just coming off as fake and for show purpose. I don't think they planned a single thing that we, the viewers, saw. I believe TLC worked out the details and just told KON to meet this person or that person to finalize the details to their liking. At the end when they were doing the vows, it felt awkward, they didn’t really make an effort to be affective and show their feelings. It didn’t have that sentimental feeling attached to it. It was almost as if their smiles were pasted on and they had to go through with it in order to satisfy the bigwigs at TLC/Figure 8.

Oh, you may want to ask them who pays the utilities, gas & upkeep for their vehicles, clothes and food they eat on non-filming days. I read somewhere that TLC was paying for their electricity bill since they use electricity while filming there. However I find that very hard to believe because how would you divide it up on how much were used on their on and off days? Or do they split it two ways?

Ask them the purpose for the ‘love offerings’. Is it really necessary? Why are they making money this way?

Anonymous said...

ThreeFarmers said...
Here is a quick glance at some major news stories broken by the National Enquirer over the years.

1987 - Gary Hart affair with Donna Rice

More recently

2001 - Rev. Jesse Jackson's illegitimate child.

2003 - Rush Limbaugh's addiction to prescription drugs.

2008 - John Edwards affair.

All big news stories and all broken by the National Enquirer. Is a lot of their reporting gossipy? Sure. But there is enough accurate reporting to make the networks pay attention.

11/24/2008 5:30 PM

NE also broke the OJ Simpson 2nd trial which sealed the deal by producing a picture of him wearing the 'Ugly ass" Bruno Magli shoes he so vehemantly denied owning.
NE may be a tabloid, but it does have it's moments. Moments the main stream media misses.

Anonymous said...

Here's my suggestion: Get about twenty people ("plants") to attend a church speaking engagement (randomly seated)at one of the smaller venues. Each "plant" would have a pre-assigned question to ask, such as, "Why isn't Aunt Jodi on the show anymore and do the kids ever get to spend time with her?" "How come Beth Carson is not involved with the book tour?" "What do you mean when you say the kids' grandparents 'don't know how to help us'?" In essence, ask all the quaestions to which KON will respond, "We can't answer that, next question." It would be extremely interesting to hear KON repeat this response over and over. Then, maybe the sheeple will get it.

Anonymous said...

In essence, ask all the quaestions to which KON will respond, "We can't answer that, next question." It would be extremely interesting to hear KON repeat this response over and over. Then, maybe the sheeple will get it.
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The sheeple will never get it. They will defend KON by saying it's none of anybody's business, etc.

BTW, I would ask where they stopped on the return trip from Maui to allow the children to readjust to east coast time.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Here's my suggestion: Get about twenty people ("plants") to attend a church speaking engagement (randomly seated)at one of the smaller venues. Each "plant" would have a pre-assigned question to ask, such as, "Why isn't Aunt Jodi on the show anymore and do the kids ever get to spend time with her?" "How come Beth Carson is not involved with the book tour?" "What do you mean when you say the kids' grandparents 'don't know how to help us'?" In essence, ask all the quaestions to which KON will respond, "We can't answer that, next question." It would be extremely interesting to hear KON repeat this response over and over. Then, maybe the sheeple will get it.

11/29/2008 5:04 PM

Your energies will be wasted asking questions you will never get an answer to. Your energy will be better served if you assemble outside the venue of a J & K speaking engagement expressing your opinions/concerns (child exploitation) in the form of a 'picket'. It may also draw the attention of the news media.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Here's my suggestion: Get about twenty people ("plants") to attend a church speaking engagement (randomly seated)at one of the smaller venues. Each "plant" would have a pre-assigned question to ask, such as, "Why isn't Aunt Jodi on the show anymore and do the kids ever get to spend time with her?" "How come Beth Carson is not involved with the book tour?" "What do you mean when you say the kids' grandparents 'don't know how to help us'?" In essence, ask all the quaestions to which KON will respond, "We can't answer that, next question." It would be extremely interesting to hear KON repeat this response over and over. Then, maybe the sheeple will get it.

11/29/2008 5:04 PM

Your energies will be wasted asking questions you will never get an answer to. Your energy will be better served if you assemble outside the venue of a J & K speaking engagement expressing your opinions/concerns (child exploitation) in the form of a 'picket'. It may also draw the attention of the news media.
11/29/2008 8:17 PM
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Yes, good idea, you are right on about that. However, my thought with my plan is that KON would be hanging themselves by their constant refrain of, "We can't answer that. Next question." See what I mean?

Anonymous said...

The sheeple will never get it. They will defend KON by saying it's none of anybody's business, etc.
BTW, I would ask where they stopped on the return trip from Maui to allow the children to readjust to east coast time.
11/29/2008 6:58 PM
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They stopped in CA again on the way home as well, did they not? Or did they get another free vacation in some other far-too-nice-to-be-wasted-on-KON location??

Anonymous said...

"I can't wait for the first episode where the new house is shown. How on earth are they going to try to spin that if they are still trying to shill at the churches?"
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Kate will come up with some line that she thinks is reasonable and makes sense even though we all know it is quite irrational, insane, and just f***ing dumb!

Anonymous said...

Not sure where to put this, so I'm just asking it here. I noticed that the "Questions and Answers" and "Gosselin Family Sightings" buttons have been removed. Is this just temporary as we are moving into the holiday season and the mods workload needs to be reduced because of it? OR - is there another reason? Just wondering.

Maggie said...

To answer the above poster, the sidebar was getting crowded and we were getting a little overworked so we decided to make life a little easier for the mods.

Anonymous said...

They stopped in CA again on the way home as well, did they not? Or did they get another free vacation in some other far-too-nice-to-be-wasted-on-KON location??
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I am not aware of any stop on the return trip. Can anybody confirm?

I do seriously doubt it - KON just needed a lame excuse to have the San Diego segment filmed.

Sugarpop said...

Some random thoughts:

It's not that J&K are "broke" or ever have been, it's that Kate has ideas about how things SHOULD be done and they didn't have enough money to do things the way she wanted them done (matching clothes, cribs, etc). Same with college/weddings now, they will be able to afford what us "lowly folk" would be perfectly happy with but Kate wants to have enough to do everything "just so."

And I agree that it really does raise a red flag when they won't answer questions about certain people. If they wanted to at least maintain some semblance of respectability they could say at the onset of these engagements, "We know that many of you are curious about some of our friends and family members that you have seen on the show. Since they are not here, we will refrain from answering any questions involving them out of respect for their privacy. Thank you for understanding."

Another thing is that it's been mentioned how they recorded "everything" when they were dating and when the twins were babies, so them wanting to be on camera now is not so unusual. They have been like that all along, it's just that now it's a professional crew doing the recording!