Philadelphia Parenting Examiner

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102 comments:

Anonymous said...

I hate how they get fluffy nice publicity in major nationwide magazines but only get negative printed in small newspapers and inconsistent things like NE.

ashley said...

Interesting, Paul Peterson is 100% right. All kids need privacy and the Gosselin kids have little, it also seems like they have no interaction with anybody besides film crews and photographers.

Anonymous said...

EXCELLENT article. Very well written. The public is getting to know the REAL Jon and Kate. Shame on you Jon and Kate.

jon and kate are cons said...

Once again, it's the kids that suffer, at the hands of their parents, who are suppose to protect them. No privacy for the Gosselin children in their formative years. The only thing that the children know are camera's in their face and film crews following them. Paul Peterson is right, he's walked in their shoes. But, the sad part is that Jon and Kate don't care what they are doing to their children. The only thing that Jon and Kate do see, is the money that they are making off of their children.

badkatebadjon said...

Paul Peterson is 110% right. I sure hope that he can help the Gosselin kids. He knows what kind of life that they are living. I want to send Jon and Kate an e-mail. Does anyone know if Jon and Kate answer their e-mails?

Anonymous said...

The word may be spreading slowly but at least it's spreading. YIPPEE!

I agee that the move is just a temporary "security" move until the NC mansion is completed....after all, it comes with warm weather which is what Her Royal Highness desires. At least she thinks so...wait till she has to deal with one of their ice storms...never mind...she won't have to go out in it...Jon and her other servants will take care of her while she remains unexposed to the elements.

What a crock.

Anonymous said...

I think it is sad that the newpapers website comments allowed the posting of the street where the family has moved to. GWOP has been really good about not publishing this information. I know that people can find this inforamtion from other resorces - but why make it so easy for a potential stalker or pedophile to locate these children.

Anonymous said...

Paul Peterson is 200% right. He knows what it like for the Gosselin kids. He's been there and done that!

Anonymous said...

One local radio station had posted this on their site. It's their new home in Berks County: http://s424.photobucket.com/albums/pp329/CelebHouses/?albumview=slideshow

The radio station's site with the info is here: http://www.fm97.com/pages/Liz.html?page=2

Anonymous said...

The article seemed kind of inconclusive. Was there more to it than just the few short paragraphs? I hope people will start listening to Peterson... how anyone could believe that having camera's in your face constantly (showing the Nation your private moments) is HEALTHY... is beyond me. And who says J & K are "stay at home parents"? ...They are always traveling... the kids spend most of their show-time with a babysitter/nanny ... so am I to believe that the parts of their lives I DON'T see are spent with J & K? I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

"I think it is sad that the newpapers website comments allowed the posting of the street where the family has moved to."

It's unfortunate, but this kind of thing happens all the time when you put yourself out there in the public eye. They had a choice of privacy and a normal life, or fame. They chose the latter so they have to live with their choices. Who would waste their time anyway going to their house?

Sharla said...

That is sad that the newspaper would allow the posting of the address. I didn't see it there when I posted the link. Very poor choice on their part although it was very easy to find the info. I was packing and driving most of the day so I guess it's all overcome by events now. Sorry, we can only be responsible for what is commented here not the whole internet.

Anonymous said...

I find it absolutely amusing that while the faithful J & K supporters take advantage of their right to freedom of speech in expressing their opinions and support for J & K by commenting on the article, they want to ban and dismiss that very same right when it comes to those with an opposing opinion. Sorry sheeple it doesnt work that way in the REAL world!!!!

Anonymous said...

The street name is posted, not the full address. It was bound to happen sooner or later. People who live in the area know this information and don't think anything of posting "hey, guess who my neighbor is", or "guess who just moved in down the street from me."

Even the most famous of celebs can't hide. I don't see what the big deal is.

ashley said...

While its sad that they posted the exact street, KON should realize that this would happen eventually. Also Im sure those kids are WELL protected, not by their parents mind you but Im positive that there is paid help watching. And I remember reading somewhere (perhaps here) that they had a huge security fence put up around the whole property that doesnt allow people to even look in.

Its sad for the children that they seem to have no friends their own age......but I guess thats what happens when your parents are willing to trade your childhood for money.

Anonymous said...

So true about celebrities - I live in the LA area and can usually find almost anyone pretty quickly.

Anonymous said...

Concerning celebrities, it's been my experience that most real celebrities encourage their fans to contact them. They love hearing from them and getting fan mail. There are many Web sites that publish celebrities address, such as movieeye.com. People like KON are not interested in interacting with the common people though because they're just in it for the money and nothing more.

Anonymous said...

Public figures are fair game for this sort of thing. There are laws that state they can be photographed and they have no protection from the paparazzi and media.

In LA celebrity houses and streets are regularly posted on sites such as Realestalker

I feel like 99% of what celebrities talk about are the paparazzi and how invasive they are and for celebrities like Brad an Angelina, they can't make a move without it being recorded. Brad was just on Oprah talking about his child Zahara said something like "dad it's not ok" for paps to follow them. Lauren Conrad's recent move was the subject of many articles and interviews with her neighbors complaining about the loss of privacy they have to endure since she is taping a "reality show" from her house which is on a street with a lot of private citizens. The street name as well as the house number have been published on various sites.

So no, this is not a home documentary, and they cant complain about their loss of privacy.

Jon and Kate should expect this as it does come with the territory of being public figures. This is not free money or a free lifestyle by any means. It comes at a definite price, and or their kids it is an unacceptable one.

Anonymous said...

I think its good that they're exploring the controversary created by the show, but I wish the article was more in-depth. What was reported was a summary that anyone could come up with after spending an hour or two researching the family. As for Paul Peterson, you can read more of his views at Jodi's sister's site...truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com

I agree with his views but also have to point out that this situation differs from child actors. That's not to say the kids don't deserve the same rights...but the loophole does exist. And is (IMO) being exploited.

Anonymous said...

It is all a shameful tragedy. I find it so difficult to believe any parents would put their family in such a public situation and do it all for money. This does make me feel very sad. I wanted to think that Jon was above all this. I wanted to blame Kate, and I do believe she is the one to make any decisions in the family, but I just feel so sad for Jon and those wonderful little children. Who would sell their children's lives in such a public and disgusting way?

Anonymous said...

I hate how they get fluffy nice publicity in major nationwide magazines but only get negative printed in small newspapers and inconsistent things like NE.

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I also find that incredibly frustrating!

Anonymous said...

After watching last nights episode, I am convinced now that it is Jon and Kate themselves leaking out negative tid bits about themselves thru the internet. Bad publicity is better than no publicity. Take a look on WikiAnswers in your spare time,run their name thru there. The answers to some of the questions sound like they could have come directly from them, some are even identical to the writing style on the FAQ section of their webpage.

Plus, they do read these sites. They say they don't but we have all seen the damage control in the last four or five episodes. However, last night? The whole 'iritated' overuse wreaks of purpose. And Carla back in the picture too? Give me a break. Carla didn't say a full sentence in that episode. She was just an extra, the spoon to stir the pot.

JRM said...

Real estate transactions are a matter of public record. Pretty easy to check out. It appears that the property in question was transferred on 10/23/2008. I believe one of their former neighbors posted and said that they moved just before Halloween. It also appears that the seller knocked $230,000.00 off the asking price. Not too shabby. I wouldn't mind 23 acres, but I definitely would mind cleaning 7 bathrooms.

Unfortunately, it is unclear as to who actually purchased the property. Darn lawyers and their sneaky cover-ups.

Anonymous said...

Is the rumor true that KON is looking to build a house in NC???? If it is true, anyone know where?

I was watching a repeat epi the other day and they really need to record what they say on these shows for reference later. It has become increasingly apparent that they are contradicting themselves quite frequently. Like for the first wedding, one epi says the family paid for it and another says they paid for it so thats why it was so modest, they didn't have much money (although they had money to immediately start infertility treatments). Maybe they should just be reading scripts rather than trying.... Also the opening says that Jon works as an IT Consultant, which clearly he no longer does...time for an update TLC

Anonymous said...

I don't see why it's sad that their street is known! They have a right to privacy? Why? They choose to be a reality tv show family. Everyone knows where the parents of other multiples live. Are the Dilly or McCaughey homes a secret? Do we not know where Britney or Brangelina lives? Why yes, we do. Everyone also knew the location of their last house. They can't hide. They want to, but they can't.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

I was watching a repeat epi the other day and they really need to record what they say on these shows for reference later. It has become increasingly apparent that they are contradicting themselves quite frequently. Like for the first wedding, one epi says the family paid for it and another says they paid for it so thats why it was so modest, they didn't have much money (although they had money to immediately start infertility treatments). Maybe they should just be reading scripts...

So TRUE! J&K are masters of contradiction, TLC could have a multi-hour show if they ever decided to piece together the numerous times they have contradicted themselves. I believe Kon fabricates, justifies, forgets or just plain lies (if you lie enough, you can't recall the truth) about circumstances and events depending on whatever explanation suits their particular needs at that particular time...and it can be about anything: discipline, their wedding, Jon's 'job', their helpers/nannies/babysitters, their family, etc, etc...

rosey in washington said...

I was watching a past episode the other day...it was the episode where they are driving to North Carolina to the beach house and they stop and look at 2 properties. The first property they looked at was a very nice house and Kate kept saying how much she loved the wrap-around deck...and she also said, "Make all the kids go out on the deck and lock all the doors!" What a nice mother, huh? The other property was just land and Kate was so un-interested that she didn't even bother to get out of the van.

Anyway, during the episode Jon said how much he thought that renevating/remodeling was such a waste of money that the "NO EXISTING STRUCTURE" was going to be right for them, there would never be enough space. I think even back then they knew that they were getting a house built for them...maybe it is getting built on the land of the 2nd property JON looked at...you know the same property where Kate wouldn't be bothered enough to even get out of the van.

I don't think that this house that they moved to is their final destination. We have all seen how demanding and spoiled Kate is, and I really don't think she would settle for an "EXISTING STRUCTURE".

my9cats said...

Anonymous said...
The word may be spreading slowly but at least it's spreading. YIPPEE!

I agee that the move is just a temporary "security" move until the NC mansion is completed"
11/25/08 12:59pm

ITA. The house is in a trust in a a local attorney's name. To me this seems like a temporary housing reprieve until another one is built. A glorified rental. BTW according to zwillow the value is 875k (not the sold for price). There are two listings for the same house that contradict each other. 5 or 6BR, 7BA, 6200 or 7,095 sq feet,23.88 acres. With 7 bathrooms is it safe to assume there are 7 toilets and no lines?

Ilovemykids said...

I hate how they get fluffy nice publicity in major nationwide magazines but only get negative printed in small newspapers and inconsistent things like NE.

But, Kon is getting a TON of negative publicity via the internet. The internet is power these days - most people now prefer to get their news via the internet. So, do not dispair, as you can see, the "Kon" game is not going unnoticed and the chorus is going to grow louder and louder.

Anonymous said...

Its easy to remember when you tell the truth the first time!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The word may be spreading slowly but at least it's spreading. YIPPEE!

I agree that the move is just a temporary "security" move until the NC mansion is completed....after all, it comes with warm weather which is what Her Royal Highness desires. At least she thinks so...wait till she has to deal with one of their ice storms...never mind...she won't have to go out in it...Jon and her other servants will take care of her while she remains unexposed to the elements.


I'm not sure about that. If the NC house was still on the table, don't you think TLC would rent a place for them to stay in the meantime instead of buying a 1M+ estate? I'm sure relocating to NC was a definite possibility at one time. Rumor had it that TLC wanted the Gosselins to be closer to Figure 8 AND to be able to film the show under the lax child labor laws NC has. However, it seems things have taken a turn.

Consider this. If Kate annoys and offends the living you know what out of US... people watching her on TV- what must that film crew endure on a daily basis? Protected by a surely iron-clad confidentiality agreement, I'm sure the Queen treats those people like dirt. Between that and the outrageous demands Kon keeps heaping on TLC, I suspect TLC is looking to get rid of this monster they created. This is all IMO, of course.

I would bet the (1.3M) farm that this is the last season for J&K+8. They are only halfway through this season and they're grasping at straws to come up with show ideas. The twins are clearly troubled. People now are finding out the real truth. Stick a fork in them, they're done.

avasmommy said...

It is sad that everyone knows where J&K live, but not because someone internet site allowed it to be posted. It is only because J&K allow their entire viewing audience and then some to know where they live, where they vacation, and every aspect of their children's lives! This is the entire point of all of the advocacy and why people and this blog are fed up with J&K. THEY are the sick ones, not the website that published the address comment.

Anonymous said...

The new Berks county home is just an interim until they move to NC??
Seems alittle foolish. What kind of security problems were they experiencing?? Maybe this is to test the climate of returning to Berks county. Did Jenny and Carla move along with them??
Happy Thanksgiving folks!

Anonymous said...

The Reading Eagle has a blogger's article on Jon and Kate. It will be interesting to see what local people have to say now that they have moved back to where they became so unwanted before.

Anonymous said...

I hope this is the last season of this tragedy and that it is not too late for the twins, at least, to recoup their childhood, although I doubt it is possible.

The G's do not deserve privacy. They gave up that privacy when they allowed the cameras to film their children sick, on the toilet, having fits, etc., etc.. Kon decided that the easy money they could make without the silly business of getting an education and, you know, going out to work each day was worth their kids' privacy. So I am glad their new address was published and I hope that they will be snubbed and laughed at by their new neighbors. I hope the local salons will refuse to give that porcupine headed jerk their services.

To be honest I hope that Kate decides to run away to an island in the Pacific where she can be on her own for the rest of her life, bitching and cleaning and complaining, and that Jon and the kids can somehow get their lives back.

This TLC tragedy has made me not only stop watching their show last season, but I try never to watch any TLC show at all. If TLC wanted to pull this show, they could do it, and I for one would thank them for it by becoming a viewer once again.

Hope said...

In terms of this being a temporary stop for Kon...

I doubt it. Not that I would put it past them. BUT, it's not like their first house sold. It's still in their names (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I read this on here.) Also, I'm tempted to believe that they are keeping the old house around for more filming as to not show their new home on TV. If they were in NC, it'd be too far to drive/fly to put more lies on tape.

Not a fan said...

I hope the local salons will refuse to give that porcupine headed jerk their services.
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I would hope a professional would tell her they just can't do a hack job like that and hope to keep their reputation. I'm a licensed cosmetologist and I would never try to work on that awful do! I'd be soooo embarrassed!

Anonymous said...

I think the Gosselins have only had flash-in-the-pan fame. They have no impetus to keep up the celebrity status. No talent. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Not even a pretzel in the shape of a bible figure. The novelty of the twins and sextuplets has worn off. The wedding re-nups and the yard sale gave the impression that this little reality skit has one foot in the grave. These people are now officially boring.
I say farewell and good riddance to the show and hope everything turns out for the best for their children.

There will be more unusual people to sideshow and TLC is already moving into weirder territory every week. Bye-bye Kons.

Niki said...

Cafemom.com has an article about Jon's money-saving tips for Christmas. It seems he is pushing Microsoft now. Due to computer issues, I can't post the link, but it can easily be googled.

Anonymous said...

I cannot for the life of me understand why these parents are being signed up left and right to advertise for companies, etc. - other than maybe the combination of the PR firm doing a great job and the stupidity of these companies!

Hawaii and Disney (to name 2) sure do not need the publicity. Who in the world does not know that they exist and are wonderful?

As for Jon's tips (Microsoft) and Kate's tips (Grain Foods), there was absolutely nothing new mentioned in either one of these cases.

For the average citizen, there is nothing shocking in my next statement in light of the way this country is going lately (especially corporate America) - the people working at these companies (including the mainstream media) need to get a clue and do a little research. Do they not know that they will likely turn off more people than they will turn on by using the Gosselins as some sort of expert or role model?

Sasha222 said...

It's really all starting to unravel now isn't it? If Paul Peterson is really going to be on Bill O'Reily and talks about the Gosselins, can you imagine how many people will see that? I hate Bill O, but he does have a TON of fans. Plus, if he doesn't like something he WILL rant about it.

I've realized that Kon are more like drug addicts even more then before. Except they are addicted to fame and money.I've said all this before on a post here on this blog. But even more of their actions lately are starting to reflect those of an addict. Lots of addicts will pare up with a partner and basically isolate themselves. They kind of become "partners in crime" in a way. They become co-dependent on each other because no one else will encourage their behavior except each other. They live in this little bubble where no one else is allowed and that way they can keep doing their crap without anyone getting in the way. One can't be this way without the other, so hopefully Jon (who seems to have a little more common sense then Kate) will one day wake up and see his faults. As much as he has done much wrong as well, he seems to genuinely care and love those kids sooooo much. So much that he might even think what he is doing is what is best for those kids. Maybe he is just a little clouded. He is the one who has spoken up about Kate letting the kids just be kids and have fun and be messy. But his low self esteem or whatever it is has allowed Kate to constantly shoot him down. Hopefully he will get enough courage one day to break this horrible cycle of money addiction and do whats right for his family. Maybe even help Kate along the way. I don't think these people are evil monsters anymore. I just think that they are lost.

There is hope for them, but they just have to one day wake up and realize what they have been doing wrong all this time, get their relatives back in their lives, and step away from in front of the camera.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait to see Paul Peterson on Bill O. I think we should all send e-mails to Bill and Paul prior to the show airing. Bill doesn't tolerate people like Jon and Kate.

Anonymous said...

When is Paul Peterson going to be on the O'Reilly show? I cannot watch O'Reilly all the time as he gets on my nerves, but I would watch that show.

To Sasha's comment regarding Kon's addiction... I have thought the same thing and even posted it awhile ago. They are indeed addicted to fame and the money. How can they break free? Neither one has a job and in this job market that has to be scary. Kate is the only one who could definitely get a job, but she would never earn what she gets now. Deep down inside they are trapped and they know it. However, my heart is with the children.

Anonymous said...

Hope said...
In terms of this being a temporary stop for Kon...

I doubt it. Not that I would put it past them. BUT, it's not like their first house sold. It's still in their names (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I read this on here.) Also, I'm tempted to believe that they are keeping the old house around for more filming as to not show their new home on TV. If they were in NC, it'd be too far to drive/fly to put more lies on tape.
11/26/2008 2:23 PM
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Yes, the Andrew Ave. home is still in their name. The new mansion in Wernersville is still in the name of the doctor, the original owner. It appears (from public records) that the mother of the doctor's wife was living there prior to KON's moving in. I may be wrong, but I think KON is renting this place and waiting it out for their "mansion" to be built in NC. KON put a fence around the Wernersville property along with some sort of security gate. On the other hand, I certainly can see TLC making the decision to wind down the KON show - in which case maybe this Wernersville estate will be KON's final resting place, no pun intended. Maybe TLC said, "take this Wernersville mansion or leave it..." In any case, KON has to be time-limited. They have nothing to offer the viewer at any level. The kids are NOT cute or interesting anymore and Kate's profound personality disorder is showcased every week. The woman is sick. She is mean, shallow and emotionally/psychologically disturbed and spiritually bankrupt. Sounds a bit like borderline personality disorder to me.

Anonymous said...

"so hopefully Jon (who seems to have a little more common sense then Kate) will one day wake up and see his faults. As much as he has done much wrong as well, he seems to genuinely care and love those kids sooooo much. So much that he might even think what he is doing is what is best for those kids. "

I don't believe Jon loves those kids any more than Kate does. He has his own nasty way of dealing with them, we've seen him get angry and yank the kids by their arms. He is also the first one to jump in and make fun of the children.
If either of them truly loved those children there would never have been a show. Jon is just as bad as Kate is but he shows it in different ways and he loves the money and fame as much as she does.
He's just a bit more subtle than his wife and he's not as obnoxious as Kate is.
If he had any common sense he would never have married her. He let her rope him in and snag him.

Anonymous said...

Kate is greedy. My husband's company sent her some of their product (which happens to be expensive) and she sent them an email back thanking them but in her email, she writes "can you send more.. .they would make great christmas presents" who does that... really. go buy your own christmas presents

Anonymous said...

"The new mansion in Wernersville is still in the name of the doctor, the original owner. It appears (from public records) that the mother of the doctor's wife was living there prior to KON's moving in. I may be wrong, but I think KON is renting this place and waiting it out for their "mansion" to be built in NC."

No, it's not still in the doctor's name. The house is in a trust with their attorney as the trustee. I don't think they are moving to NC...this is the new house. Think back....they WERE interested in NC, but after their summer trip there I think they changed their minds.

Anonymous said...

"No talent. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Not even a pretzel in the shape of a bible figure."
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LMFAO! That cracked me up. Too bad they suck at "projeks," they could make one. Ehh, too messy.

DirtyDisher

Oh, and to the person who said Kate emailed for more of something so she could Christmas present freebies..OMG, those emails would be worth a mint here. What a loser that KG is. Cripes! That takes the Greed cake...with 10 flowers on top.

Anonymous said...

im VERY tempted to share the email from kate, but i dont think i should expose my husbands company/product.... she specifically references the item through out the email.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Kate is greedy. My husband's company sent her some of their product (which happens to be expensive) and she sent them an email back thanking them but in her email, she writes "can you send more.. .they would make great christmas presents" who does that... really. go buy your own christmas presents

11/27/2008 8:22 PM

Kate wanted your husband to send more 'free' samples of his product, so SHE can turn around and give these free product samples as Christmas gifts? No money out of her pocket, and not even a gift from her 'heart'. Im surprised she didnt take it a step further and provide you with a list of names and request that your husband gift wrap, label and ship the item to to the specified individuals.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Kate is greedy. My husband's company sent her some of their product (which happens to be expensive) and she sent them an email back thanking them but in her email, she writes "can you send more.. .they would make great christmas presents" who does that... really. go buy your own christmas presents

11/27/2008 8:22 PM


Gimme More Gosselin!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"The new mansion in Wernersville is still in the name of the doctor, the original owner. It appears (from public records) that the mother of the doctor's wife was living there prior to KON's moving in. I may be wrong, but I think KON is renting this place and waiting it out for their "mansion" to be built in NC."

No, it's not still in the doctor's name. The house is in a trust with their attorney as the trustee. I don't think they are moving to NC...this is the new house. Think back....they WERE interested in NC, but after their summer trip there I think they changed their minds.
11/28/2008 6:14 AM
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I looked it up on public records and the doctor is clearly still the owner. How would you know if the house is in a trust with the attorney as the trustee? If a house or property is in a trust, it is not listed on public records. It is, in other words, "hidden." Where does your information come from, just out of curiosity? I'd love to know how to find out about property in general held in trusts. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous whose husband sent products from his company: You could always post the e-mail, begging for more gifts with an outstretched hand, with the product and company name blacked out. I agree your company should not be penalized for trying to do something nice, and then get the backlash from some of us that want to boycott anything to do with Kon. I am so sorry that while trying to do something charitable and kind, you had to see the sordid, selfish, greedy underbelly of this out of control train named the Gosselins. I am betting that you and your husband won't make that mistake again. Although when you first did it it wasn't a mistake - just an offer of kindness. Unfortunately you had to find out the hard way that it was a mistake. I think I want you to post it so the supporters of J&K can see what they are really supporting - greed, selfishness, and unmitigated gall.

Anonymous said...

Kate is greedy. My husband's company sent her some of their product (which happens to be expensive) and she sent them an email back thanking them but in her email, she writes "can you send more.. .they would make great christmas presents" who does that... really. go buy your own christmas presents
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I am asking this in my most respectful voice:

If you post here, you have to know at least a little about the controversy surrounding KON. Did you ask your husband why he/his company was sending the Gosselins freebies they don't need and definitely don't deserve? Just curious.

Anonymous said...

They want the publicity.... if its shown on the show, its basically free advertising.(the cost of sending them a freebie) same reason LOTS of companies send them stuff.

Anonymous said...

Here is the email. i am blacking out any reference to the product and or company:


We just received the **** you sent and I cannot believe how amazingly wonderful it is! The kids ask at night if they can 'let the **** out' (told you it would be great for the kids :)

and we all stand and watch it work!

I have already had a few dear friends comment on it and wondered if there were spare ones there, if you could send a few more! They would make amazing Christmas presents!!!!

Thanks again! I am still amazed at this little ***** guy!!!

Kate Gosselin (who is now free to write emails instead of ****, thanks to my *****! :)

my9cats said...

Anonymous said...
Here is the email. i am blacking out any reference to the product and or company:


We just received the **** you sent and I cannot believe how amazingly wonderful it is! The kids ask at night if they can 'let the **** out' (told you it would be great for the kids :)

and we all stand and watch it work!

I have already had a few dear friends comment on it and wondered if there were spare ones there, if you could send a few more! They would make amazing Christmas presents!!!!

Thanks again! I am still amazed at this little ***** guy!!!

Kate Gosselin (who is now free to write emails instead of ****, thanks to my *****! :)

11/29/2008 2:39 PM

A few dear friends? Jen, camerman, soundman, babyslave, landscaper, UPS person? ROFLMAO. Just tooooooo funny.

Anonymous said...

They want the publicity.... if its shown on the show, its basically free advertising.(the cost of sending them a freebie) same reason LOTS of companies send them stuff.

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Is this the OP's response?

If yes, then you get what you deserve.

The response given was basically an attempt to justify why the G's were sent your husband's company's product, hoping for free advertising. Yet, you weren't expecting her blatant begging for more. This is exactly like that Nevada woman who "thinks the show is funny" and is having her husband's company make a second attempt at luring the G's to that area to provide free tourism advertising.

If this comment was not the response of the OP but just a general answer, then my response is thank you, but I'm well aware of the free advertising that companies want . My question (why would your husband's company send the G's freebies they don't need or deserve) was not to be taken so literally.

Anonymous said...

Kate Gosselin (who is now free to write emails instead of ****, thanks to my *****! :)
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I think I got it! She means she is now free to write emails instead of interact with her kids thanks to her new robot mommy! Oh wait. She already doesn't interact with them. Did you check out how she refused to get off her iphone at the yard sale? @@

Anonymous said...

Kate's dear friends: herself, "Hannie" & the paid "helpers" that TLC hires to make the Queen's life easier

Anonymous said...

the letter to the company all but proves (at least in my opinion) that Kate had the nerve to send out gift lists to her HI family members

Anonymous said...

I'm going to guess that the **** is a Roomba. (Do I et a free one if I'm right? LOL!!)

Anonymous said...

According to the Reading Eagle's real estate transactions in today's paper, the kids are worth at least $1,120,000...this is the price that the house was sold for!! It is not listed in KON's name, it is listed as a "revocable trust"..interesting isn't it..I can tell you that their welcome back to Berks county will probably not be very warm.. the show did nothing but have people in berks county dislike them even more than when they lived here before.

my9cats said...

Just curious. Why would a house be put in a revocable trust in an attorney's name? Is there a legal reason why this would be beneficial to KON? I would understand if KON incorporated and the house was in the corporation's name, but what is the purpose of a rev trust in someone else's name?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"The new mansion in Wernersville is still in the name of the doctor, the original owner. It appears (from public records) that the mother of the doctor's wife was living there prior to KON's moving in. I may be wrong, but I think KON is renting this place and waiting it out for their "mansion" to be built in NC."

No, it's not still in the doctor's name. The house is in a trust with their attorney as the trustee. I don't think they are moving to NC...this is the new house. Think back....they WERE interested in NC, but after their summer trip there I think they changed their minds.
11/28/2008 6:14 AM
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I looked it up on public records and the doctor is clearly still the owner. How would you know if the house is in a trust with the attorney as the trustee? If a house or property is in a trust, it is not listed on public records. It is, in other words, "hidden." Where does your information come from, just out of curiosity? I'd love to know how to find out about property in general held in trusts. Thanks.

11/28/2008 4:56 PM

Berks County Assessors website

Anonymous said...

you need to check your sources. The berks county assessors website shows the house listed in a trust.

Anonymous said...

To the woman whose husband's company sent the free item---did they actually send Kate additional free items when she wrote asking for them???? I can only hope they had the good sense not to!!!

dolphinfoxx said...

That "doctor" is an OB/GYN and he's my doctor! WOW, it's a small world after all. I had no clue that was his house.

Anonymous said...

dolphinfoxx said...
That "doctor" is an OB/GYN and he's my doctor! WOW, it's a small world after all. I had no clue that was his house.

11/30/2008 12:39 PM
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hmmmm Really? Does he specialize in infertility treatments by any chance? Maybe Kate made a deal with him and said "I won't spill the beans, if you knock off some of the price of the house?

Anonymous said...

I'd love to know how to find out about property in general held in trusts. Thanks.

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Hope this helps:

A revocable trust can be used to manage your assets during your lifetime and afterward. You are the beneficiary of the trust assets while you are living (meaning you can do with them what ever you want), and you have complete control over the trust. You are free to buy and sell assets in and out of your revocable trust, and, as the name implies, the trust may be revoked or terminated at any time. Possibly the greatest advantage of a revocable trust is that the assets held in the trust are not subject to probate upon your death. Another advantage to the revocable trust is that you avoid a guardianship. Guardianships are court proceedings, that would be held on your behalf, in the event you were incompetent, or could no longer manage your own affairs. Revocable trusts provide a mechanism for a legal guardian to be automatically appointed should you become incapacitated, thus avoiding the potentially burdensome guardianship proceedings.

You can read more about them here:
http://www.weblawresources.com/estateplanning/what_is_trust.htm

Trusts are actually very common and I don't blame KON for choosing this option.

Anonymous said...

I was guessing a roomba vacuum thingie too..

Anonymous said...

Concerning celebrities, it's been my experience that most real celebrities encourage their fans to contact them.
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Look, the thing is, most celebrities don't have people who irrationally hate them as much as Jon and Kate do. I would gladly skip out on getting a dozen kind fan letters if it meant I also didn't have to receive a hundred letters about how evil I was, how I'm a terrible human being, how my hair is hideous, how I don't love my children, how they hope I go to hell/lose all my wealth/lose my kids/live in the gutter, etc., etc.

Not to mention, most celebrities have a separate address for their fan mail; they don't get it all sent to their house. It's a privacy issue and a security issue.

Just because GWOP posted aerial views of the house, at least one GWOPper in the area went out of her way to drive by and try to get a glimpse of the family. I don't think the Gosselins not wanting the address to get out has anything to do with "not wanting to mingle with commoners". It has everything to do with privacy and protection.

I know someone will argue that they're on TV so they have no right to privacy, but there's a huge difference between consenting to have a camera crew record your children under your own conditions, and having strangers drive by your house and try to contact your kids and sending threatening letters. We're all child advocates here, right? Maybe we should stop being hyprocritical and start treating the children, at least, with the respect we keep insisting they deserve.

my9cats said...

My parents have a revocable trust in the FAMILY name. Not their attorney's name. I am wondering why the house is in a trust in the attorney's name. Maybe he owns the house and they are renting.

dolphinfoxx said...

No, as far as I know he doesn't specialize in infertility. He's just a very good OB/GYN. I had a high risk pregnancy and he was amazing at keeping my baby from becoming a preemie like my last child. He is a great doctor and I doubt he had anything to do with the gosselins. He may have worked with Kate at the Reading Hospital at some point, but other than that, I don't think he had anything to do with the 'tups. And as far as you people saying the house is still in his name, it's not. It is in fact in a trust and was sold by him and his wife. They just bought a new home as well. It's in the paper and on the Berks County website.

Anonymous said...

I know someone will argue that they're on TV so they have no right to privacy, but there's a huge difference between consenting to have a camera crew record your children under your own conditions, and having strangers drive by your house and try to contact your kids and sending threatening letters. We're all child advocates here, right? Maybe we should stop being hyprocritical and start treating the children, at least, with the respect we keep insisting they deserve.
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But they can accept Christmas presents from total strangers ?
THAT is far more dangerous and creepy !

Oh, and please stop comparing KON to actual celebrities. KON are infamous at best.

Dunwoody Mom said...

I don't think the Gosselins not wanting the address to get out has anything to do with "not wanting to mingle with commoners". It has everything to do with privacy and protection.

If KON wanted privacy and protection, why are they doing a television show?

Anonymous said...

My parents have a revocable trust in the FAMILY name. Not their attorney's name. I am wondering why the house is in a trust in the attorney's name. Maybe he owns the house and they are renting.

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It is actually quite common for an attorney to be the trustee of the trust. The trustee is not the owner though, the beneficiaries are. The trustee and beneficiaries should actually be two (or more) separate people or it would be considered a "dry trust" and a court could rule that the trust is extinguished. The owners would go back to owning the house as individuals and it would be subject to probate court and guardianship proceedings (if the kids were still underage when both parents passed away).

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
My parents have a revocable trust in the FAMILY name. Not their attorney's name. I am wondering why the house is in a trust in the attorney's name. Maybe he owns the house and they are renting.

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It is actually quite common for an attorney to be the trustee of the trust. The trustee is not the owner though, the beneficiaries are. The trustee and beneficiaries should actually be two (or more) separate people or it would be considered a "dry trust" and a court could rule that the trust is extinguished. The owners would go back to owning the house as individuals and it would be subject to probate court and guardianship proceedings (if the kids were still underage when both parents passed away).

12/01/2008 7:28 AM

Thanks for taking the time to explain the process.
I just feel uncomfortable having anything in a name other than mine.

Anonymous said...

But they can accept Christmas presents from total strangers ?
THAT is far more dangerous and creepy !

Oh, and please stop comparing KON to actual celebrities. KON are infamous at best.
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I imagine that, given all the vitriol over them on the internet in recent months, they have decided to stop accepting packages delivered straight to their door... hence the not wanting the address to get out. They'd instead have people who choose to send them gifts send them to a separate address to be sorted and checked for safety.

It may not be the best thing in the world to do, but it doesn't seem too much more dangerous than accepting food from strangers on Hallowe'en. Toys you play with, food you put in your mouth and ingest.

My entire point of my last post was really that it seems like some people are letting their hatred for Jon and Kate interfere with their protection of the children. Say all you want that Jon and Kate deserve their address to be out and be harassed because they're on TV, but Jon and Kate's address being out and them being harassed is harmful to the kids.

I'm not defending Jon and Kate putting their kids on TV. I hate that, I wholeheartedly agree that it's exploitation, and I hope it stops. But I don't believe harassing and borderline stalking Jon and Kate is going to fix anything; it's worse for the kids than being on TV.

Lastly, they're on a highly-rated TV show: they're celebrities. Whether you want to call them A-list, D-list, or Z-list, they're still celebrities.

Anonymous said...

I imagine that, given all the vitriol over them on the internet in recent months, they have decided to stop accepting packages delivered straight to their door... hence the not wanting the address to get out. They'd instead have people who choose to send them gifts send them to a separate address to be sorted and checked for safety.

* sounds like you think the vitriol is unwarranted, when in fact, many of us are simply commenting on what we see/hear/read about. If KON didn't give us so much on which to negatively comment there would be nothing


It may not be the best thing in the world to do, but it doesn't seem too much more dangerous than accepting food from strangers on Hallowe'en. Toys you play with, food you put in your mouth and ingest.

* I disagree. Halloween candy is given in the spirit of the holiday but is very impersonal for the most part. Presents being sent to small children from complete strangers is a very purposeful
action that is much more intimate, and in that regard, very inappropriate, creepy and possibly dangerous (you know how many pedophiles probably love this show because of all the partial nudity? it's sickening to even ponder!)


My entire point of my last post was really that it seems like some people are letting their hatred for Jon and Kate interfere with their protection of the children. Say all you want that Jon and Kate deserve their address to be out and be harassed because they're on TV, but Jon and Kate's address being out and them being harassed is harmful to the kids.

* I agree with you that their address does not need to be published, and certainly not harassed, absolutely. BUT.....if they really wanted total privacy/protection for the kids, parading them on national tv isn't the way to do it. I don't even post my children's pictures ANYWHERE on the internet because I feel more vulnerable, but that's JMO.

I'm not defending Jon and Kate putting their kids on TV. I hate that, I wholeheartedly agree that it's exploitation, and I hope it stops. But I don't believe harassing and borderline stalking Jon and Kate is going to fix anything; it's worse for the kids than being on TV.

Lastly, they're on a highly-rated TV show: they're celebrities. Whether you want to call them A-list, D-list, or Z-list, they're still celebrities.

* I will agree to disagree with you on this one.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you that their address does not need to be published, and certainly not harassed, absolutely. BUT.....if they really wanted total privacy/protection for the kids, parading them on national tv isn't the way to do it.
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I don't like this argument, because it sounds suspiciously like it's condoning other people disrespecting the kids' privacy because Jon and Kate already have.

I think we're almost all agreed that Jon and Kate are not great parents, that they mistreat their children and exploit them. That does not mean that anyone is allowed to take that one step further because Jon and Kate have already successfully crossed the line.

Because Jon and Kate have crossed the line, it's more important than ever that people protect and respect them as best they can. Which, IMHO, involves not using the knowledge of their address to write or drive by, and not saying crude and cruel things about their personalities and development.

I feel that people should be focusing criticism and hatred of Jon and Kate on Jon and Kate. IMO, it seems like right now for every "bomb" that gets thrown Jon and Kate's way, the kids are getting pulverized by shrapnel.

Anonymous said...

"Lastly, they're on a highly-rated TV show: they're celebrities. Whether you want to call them A-list, D-list, or Z-list, they're still celebrities."

The J & K + 8 reality show is a top ranking reality show on the TLC network,its ranking does not apply to that of all tv programming, IMO that status in and of itself does not make one a 'celebrity'. Popular reality television personalities, I will give them that one. As a previous poster commented, J & K Gosselin's 'celebrity' status is the equavilent to that of the reality television personality, Pumkin, her original claim to fame, a contender on the Flavor of Love reality show.

Anonymous said...

I don't like this argument, because it sounds suspiciously like it's condoning other people disrespecting the kids' privacy because Jon and Kate already have.
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No no no. 100% no! I reread my comment and can understand your thinking. I would never, ever condone disrespecting anyone's privacy, especially the privacy of innocent children.

My point was that KON can't have it both ways. If they want to act like celebrities (notice I say ACT) chasing fame and fortune with their kids at the helm, they have to expect, unfortunately, that there will be loss of privacy. But,for KON everything is for the here and now, for $, for freebies. They never look at the whole picture or the future.

As a matter of fact, I think some posters have mentioned how the crazy stalkers are usually uber fans. Have you all seen the home videos of the kids on YouTube? Most of these are from fans. Very wierd and very scary.

Ilovemykids said...

People that stalk "celebrities" are their fans. So, if KON is being bothered, then I'd look to people other than those that post on this board.

ashley said...

Holy Crow, lol, Jons comment was hilarious! I think those two are heading for divorce court.

iheartmyhubby said...

Yikes! I wonder what's in store for Jon once Kate hears what he said!

avidreader said...

How cynical of me, I thought he was going to say a house, ha!

3rd Rock From The Sun said...

I bet that Jon will have to go and sit in the corner when Kate finds out what he said.

Both Jon and Kate are delusional.
They both lie right through their teeth. I can't see these two lasting forever and ever.

shelbysmom said...

Scrool past the comments at the bottom of this article and read the article about Jon's radio interview. The DJ asked Jon whose family was easier to deal with hers or his and he said his. This is the first time I have heard him address this type of question. I bet he caught a big slap for that.

shelbysmom said...

What's up with all the Anonymous said? I thought this was done with.

Pamela Jaye said...

my suggestions

Jon and Kate need to go back on Dr Phil. I'm guessing last time they were there, he didn't see the pertinent footage, and if he did, he wouldn't take Kate's crap.

Then maybe SuperNanny. She doesn't take any crap either, from the little I've seen.

Of course, it would be best to get them off the air, but Kate is doing more damage to her kids than the cameras are, I think. Obviously the cameras don't help, but could they be a blessing in disguise? To make the abuse this well known? Perhaps someone will then intervene Not for Jon, alas, but perhaps for the smaller targets of Kate's super perfectionism.

Hint to Kate: if you want to damage your kids, don't do it in front of the whole country. (I'm not sure if I'm happy or sad she doesn't hit the kids - cause if she did, they'd be out of there. Of course, when my mother was in the foster care system, it wasn't the horror that I keep hearing it is on ER. but really - perhaps all of this exposure could lead to some early intervention, before these kids end up emotional basketcase teenagers (like I was. and at least I had a mother to run to when I was being verbally abused)

I also commented on the article's website.

Maggie said...

Shelbysmom said"

"What's up with all the Anonymous said? I thought this was done with."

This was an article we published previously with accompanying comments. We brought it back up to add Jon's comments. I think all of the anonymous comments are before the cut-off date for anonymous comments.

If we let one slip in, oh well, it can happen, we can only try!

fostersmom said...

shelbysmom said...
What's up with all the Anonymous said? I thought this was done with.

12/11/2008 7:41 PM


This originally was posted on 11/25, before we decided no more anonymous. The article with Jon's comments was added today and it bumped the thread up. This post is a good example of why anonymous needed to go, it's on almost every comment submitted before the cut off date.

Tami said...

Oh you have got to leave him a comment. What a joke. The strangers in Hawaii are the family he wants to reference? Nice try, but you know they were talking about immediate family! He can't answer a straight question if it slaps him in the face like his freakish wife!

Ava said...

How lovely that they will gift the children with a free "Windows Based PC" so that they can bond and share quality time on their "windows based PC." THey even are going to send out Christmas cards made on their "windows based PC" to their loved ones. How will they make the cards if the "windows based PC" is supposed to be a CHRISTMAS gift?

kate is a cocky bitch said...

OMG they make me so ill. Instead of saying "I am not going to answer that one" why can't Jon (and his bleach blonde wife) address some of these stories and set the record straight. I'm sure whatever they say will be lies but it's better than not saying anything at all and pretending that everything's OK.

Lisa said...

Ava said...
How lovely that they will gift the children with a free "Windows Based PC" so that they can bond and share quality time on their "windows based PC." THey even are going to send out Christmas cards made on their "windows based PC" to their loved ones. How will they make the cards if the "windows based PC" is supposed to be a CHRISTMAS gift?

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LOL. Well they would send out Christmas cards to loved ones if they had any loved ones left. But KON has alienated so many of their family members and friends, I suspect they won't have too many to send or email. Maybe they could send one to Scott the camera guy or Jen the producer.

It's really sad isn't it? They are alone and will stay alone once their 15 minutes of fame is done. That is until the kids write a tell-all book, then they'll be back in the public eye.

MsPeabody said...

rosey in washington said..
I don't think that this house that they moved to is their final destination. We have all seen how demanding and spoiled Kate is, and I really don't think she would settle for an "EXISTING STRUCTURE".

This house won't be big enough for QFI for long either given her past remarks about space and other's invading it.

MsPeabody said...

Ilovemykids said...
I hate how they get fluffy nice publicity in major nationwide magazines but only get negative printed in small newspapers and inconsistent things like NE.

But, Kon is getting a TON of negative publicity via the internet. The internet is power these days - most people now prefer to get their news via the internet. So, do not dispair, as you can see, the "Kon" game is not going unnoticed and the chorus is going to grow louder and louder.


I so agree, it maybe taking some time but the truth about these two is getting out there.

I don't think they like the truth being told at all, they are delusional and have ego's the size of the moon and need to keep telling themselves lies about their status in the public's eyes.
More and more of their fans are beginning to understand the truth about them daily as we have seen on this site, the tide is turning.
I wonder how many of those fans that had to stand in line for a book to be signed, for hours and then to be told no more signings, feel about Kate now.

MsPeabody said...

Ilovemykids said...
People that stalk "celebrities" are their fans. So, if KON is being bothered, then I'd look to people other than those that post on this board.


I agree! Your posts are always right on IMO!

MsPeabody said...

Tami said...
Oh you have got to leave him a comment. What a joke. The strangers in Hawaii are the family he wants to reference? Nice try, but you know they were talking about immediate family! He can't answer a straight question if it slaps him in the face like his freakish wife!


The strangers are right! Give us a break, he just met them for the show and hadn't seen them in twenty years since being a child himself. And what a big slap in the face Jon gave to Kate's family, just because it seems they refuse to support what Jon and Kate are doing to those children by being on this stupid show.

Kate Must Go said...

You are exactly right. Those of us who despise Kon would never want to be anywhere near them, would not give them the satisfaction of even recognizing them on the street, would snub them publically. They don't need to worry about us. Their "fans", the neurotic and enchanted half-wits who think they have done nothing wrong here are the ones Kon needs to concern themselves about. One of those may see the light and decide to take her revenge. They have nothing to fear from those of us who have always known what a con these two were running.