Monday Nov 17 - For Better or Worse

Jon and Kate prove that they are more committed than ever to each other and their unique life together as parents of multiples. After almost ten years of marriage, Jon and Kate have a wedding vow renewal ceremony in Hawaii and you are cordially invited!

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ashley said...

Well Im not so sure they are doing the renewal to because they are so committed to each other or because they are worried about the public and want people to believe that everything is fine.......After all this trip and everything related to it was donated, IMO the KON doesnt pay for much of anything.

Rosey in Washington said...

The episode hasn't even aired yet but all I can say is THANK GOD! It's freakin' FINALLY here..now maybe the constant annoying commercials can STOP!!

Anonymous said...

God bless them. This is their 9th anniversary, right? I could maybe see renewing their vows on their 8th because of having 8 kids, I can see on their 10th, and def on the 20th but, this might sound bad of me, it seems to me that they are doing this for tv purposes. I mean, TLC is making a big deal out of it and who renews their vows on their 9th anniversary? Vow renewals are a big deal. But, you never know, 9 might have some significance to them that we don't know about. What ever it is, I wish the best for them and hope they have a long, happy marriage.

ashley said...

Ive already posted (and yes Im sorry I made an error :) I dont plan on watching the show mainly because Im tired of KON and their lies, but I am curious to know who is planning on watching.....Im a sucker so I will probably watch a minute or two but Im going to try and refrain myself.

Anonymous said...

How's come the description of the show is they are renewing their vows after 10 years of marriage
( People Magazine and Direct TV )???

Everyone knows they've only been married for nine.

Of course WE know the real reason for the vow renewal ( doing it for the show for ratings ), but it bugs me it is being promoted as vow renewal after being married 10 years. Who's to say these two dorks won't be split up before the ten year mark? Jon seriously needs his head examined. He's lost just as many brain cells as he has hair cells.

Anonymous said...

Check out this TV review about tonite's episode

http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/reviews/view.bg?&articleid=1132786&format=&page=1&listingType=tvrev#articleFull

Anonymous said...

I'm tapping out of watching any of it. I think Kate is over the top at being a b i t c h to the kids and Jon. Jon takes it, which makes me angrier. Then I ask why the heck to I watch and support this nonsense?

Kids are adorable, well, at least the 6 are. Kate and Jon do not parent in my eyes and all they do is bicker and get what, $50k an episode?

I'm passing.

Anonymous said...

Not sure if anyone has saw this or not but I was just on the TLC website and there is a clip you can view of KON meeting Jon's family. Some of the family members are interviewed. It looks like the ppl we see watching the vows are indeed Jon's family members

Anonymous said...

I won't be watching. UGH!

Why do you have to reinforce to your children all the time that you ARE staying together? That isn't even normal UNLESS your parents fight all the time or the kids have commented on other people in their lives being cast out and their fears regarding that. It just seems very odd to me.

rachel said...

RIW, you took the words right out of my mouth! lol, Thank heavens its finally here.

Wendy Bird said...

ashley said:
"I am curious to know who is planning on watching"

*Raises hand and jumps up and down.

There is no Nielson box attached to my television, so I am going settle in and watch a night of Train Wreck TV. I have just got to find out how they get Mady to participate in what she inuitively knows is a farce. Usually she won't participate in her parents' charades without a meltdown to try to get out of them, so I can't wait to hear how Kon explains her cooperative behavior. They must have pulled one of their random parenting tricks (threats or bribery, I would venture to guess) out of Kate's magical uterus and that did the trick.

PepperPot said...

I don't plan on watching. I have had ENOUGH of KON. I stopped watching weeks ago. I do not need to see them go on one more free trip or get anymore free stuff. Jon & Kate have jumped the shark.

Anonymous said...

I'm not going to watch ashley, I haven't watched this show in forever and there are better things on tv tonight.

Anonymous said...

This is an article that was in our newspaper this morning. This is the local paper that Jon and Kate would be reading. Wonder what their reaction was to it.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=114198

Dew said...

I just watched Plane Ride to Utah, which aired months and months ago. Kate was crystal clear that she wanted to go to Hawaii on their next trip and get "remarried." Talk about shameless hinting for a handout!

Anonymous said...

Thank God it's on tonight. We've been seeing Hawaii and the sickening commercials for weeks.

Anonymous said...

I read both articles and it looks like their show and Jon and Kate are doomed.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

The Reading Eagle is the one paper that has been honest about Jon and Kate and has seen right through them. I love it! The person that wrote the article is right on point with the comments. "A quirk of medical science." Excellent. It also stated that they were "former Berks county residents" so I guess the move has indeed happened. Maybe they will be somewhat secreative about their new location since they don't like people riding by and gawking at them!! It's ok to beg for freebies and parade your children warts and all in front of millions but riding by their house is a free look and they can't have that!!! I am surprised they don't have a little tip jar on the front lawn like people with huge Christmas displays have when they electric bills spiral out of control with all the lights and blow ups and they need a little $$ to help with the bill.

Count me toward the people that will not be watching tonight. I would rather pull my toenails out one by one than have to watch that insincere and sappy commercial anymore. That is what turned me off to watching tonight! I'll be getting a root canal with no novacane......far less painful!

Anonymous said...

So Jon and Kate are trying to convince their kids that they will stay together FOREVER by renewing their vows? Just because a couple renews their vows is NO guarantee that they will stay together. Jon and Kate are only fooling themselves.

Anonymous said...

who give a crap about the wedding, I'm just glad I dont have to watch those commercials anymore!

Anonymous said...

I would rather be watching the Cleveland Browns lose tonight..again..than watch this hot mess of a show..

Anonymous said...

I think it is really dangerous for Kate to tell her kids that they are "getting married again" because not all parents do and this will show them that they will stay together forever. I think it is insane to even talk to a 4 year old about how some parents don't stay married. No one plans their divorce on their wedding day and renewing your vows does not guarantee you a long and happy marriage. What happens when Jon and Kate finally do divorce?

Anonymous said...

This morning there was a new TLC family on ABC. They have TWO sets of twins AND sextuplets. How nervous do you think this makes Jon and Kate? Or do you think that these two believe that America loves them so much that there isn't a chance that they could be usurped from their TLC thrones? Personally, I'm throwing my support behind the new TLC family.

ashley said...

Wendy Bird : They must have pulled one of their random parenting tricks (threats or bribery, I would venture to guess) out of Kate's magical uterus and that did the trick.

Haha that is sooo funny and sooo true! I may sound dumb right now but is the whole Nielson box really true, does it really make no difference at all if the average person watches or not.....Its obvious I dont know anything about TV ratings and Im curious about how they get the rating they have.

Thanks to anybody who can help.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised we weren't given a "Jon and Kate are registered at Crate & Barrel, Ikea, and Bed Bath & Beyond if you'd like to shower them with more freebies!" in the episode description. heh.

ashley said...

anon 12:58, thanks for the link, it didnt work for me but I was able to search the newspaper and I found the article. O Lordy Be (as Kate would say) that was soo funny, I cant believe somebody would actually publish that in a newspaper. The community really must be sick of the Gosselins and their lies for something like that to be published! Wow I still cant believe it that is just too funny, Im wondering is that newspaper like THE newspaper down there because if it is that just makes it even better.

Anonymous said...

That's right. It makes no difference for the ratings about watching for most people. Nielsen families count (box or paper) and DVR families where the company reports. The rest of the country can watch or not watch and it matters not one whit to the ratings.

ashley said...

anon 2:20, thanks

I guess I dont feel as bad now about giving in and watching lol because I dont have a Nielson box and I never DVR the Gosselins!

Ravello said...

I'm also watching the Browns, Go Brady Quinn.
I'm trying to avoid the KON show. I'm going to try to avoid the replay but not promising.
Hawaii has dragged on for a month.

I saw the Hayes family on GMA, what a sweet family. One child seems quite impaired with CP, the mother called her our angel.

I'll bet the KONS went crazy this morning in that new million dollar KONPOUND, could their reign be coming to an end soon? How will they pay the bills for this million dollar estate? Solicit money again from the sheeples? Sell some more donated items? Sell some more photos?

Anonymous said...

Probably this is the way this episode came about---the producers and Jon and Kate are sitting around---what can we do for future episodes? We would really love a free trip to Hawaii. Great! We'll call the most expensive resort and set it all up and you can say that it is important for you to "get married again so your kids know you will stay together forever." Who cares if you've only been married 9 years?! It's all about ratings and freebies and cash in your pockets!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know---is this FINALLY the last Hawaii episode? There can't be another one next week, can there??

I suppose next week (assuming they are back in PA) we will have to hear how exhausted Kate is after all of the travelling.

Anonymous said...

One more time: How Nielsen Ratings really work.


In the US, the term "TV ratings" immediately makes people think of "Nielsen" because Nielsen Media Research has become the de facto national measurement service for the television industry in the United States and Canada. Nielson measures the number of people watching television shows and makes its data available to the television and cable networks, advertisers and the media.

Nielsen uses a technique called statistical sampling to rate the shows -- the same technique that pollsters use to predict the outcome of elections. Nielsen creates a "sample audience" and then counts how many in that audience view each program. Nielsen then extrapolates from the sample and estimates the number of viewers in the entire population watching the show. That's a simple way of explaining what is a complicated, extensive process. Nielsen relies mainly on information collected from TV set meters that it installs, and then combines this information with huge databases of the programs that appear on each TV station and cable channel.

To find out who is watching TV and what they are watching, the company gets around 5,000 households to agree to be a part of the representative sample for the national ratings estimates. Nielsen's statistics show that 99 million households have TVs in the United States, so Nielsen's sample is not very large. The key, therefore, is to be sure the sample is representative. Then TVs, homes, programs, and people are measured in a variety of ways.

To find out what people are watching, meters installed in the selected sample of homes track when TV sets are on and what channels they are tuned to. A "black box," which is just a computer and modem, gathers and sends all this information to the company's central computer every night. Then by monitoring what is on TV at any given time, the company is able to keep track of how many people watch which program.

Small boxes, placed near the TV sets of those in the national sample, measure who is watching by giving each member of the household a button to turn on and off to show when he or she begins and ends viewing. This information is also collected each night.

The national TV ratings largely rely on these meters. To ensure reasonably accurate results, the company uses audits and quality checks and regularly compares the ratings it gets from different samples and measurement methods.

Participants in Nielsen's national sample are randomly selected. Every U.S. household with a TV theoretically has a chance to be a part of the sample. The sample is also compared to the general population, and at times Nielsen calls thousands of households to see if their TV sets are on and who is watching.

This research is worth billions of dollars. Advertisers pay to air their commercials on TV programs using rates that are based on Nielsen's data. Programmers also use Nielsen's data to decide which shows to keep and which to cancel. A show that has several million viewers may seem popular to us, but a network may need millions more watching that program to make it a financial success. That's why some shows with a loyal following still get canceled.

Anonymous said...

Kate and Jon are on thin ice. We are all sick and tired of their lies and being greedy. Their next show I'm sure will be "The Greedy Gosselins" and that will be a REALITY SHOW.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure why they wanted to leave Berks so badly. It's a nice area to live in. I've got family there and I would do anything to be able to live closer to them.

Anonymous said...

The song "TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WELL" by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young says it all. Who cares about Kate and Jon renewing their vows. It's ALL about the children!

Anonymous said...

ashley: sorry the link didn't work. I am computer challenged! Yes, the Reading Eagle is the only paper for Berks County. If you ever read the old blogs on the paper website from before they even got the show they created a lot of controversy way back then. I'm sure there is still a lot of resentment around.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think it is really dangerous for Kate to tell her kids that they are "getting married again" because not all parents do and this will show them that they will stay together forever. I think it is insane to even talk to a 4 year old about how some parents don't stay married. No one plans their divorce on their wedding day and renewing your vows does not guarantee you a long and happy marriage. What happens when Jon and Kate finally do divorce?

11/17/2008 1:59 PM

I absolutely agree! Another example of many, of Kate's 'Mommy Dearest' moments!!

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate Gosselin are nothing but greedy people in the biggest way. Because Jon is Catholic he was raised to believe that divorce is not allowed in the Catholic Church. That is probably why he is still with Kate. Even if he wanted to leave her, he feels like he can't. From what we see on television, it looks like he's not really happy. I just wonder what happens between them when the cameras are off. I'm sure that the renewing of the vows was Kate's idea and of course Jon had to go along with it. What would life be like with Kate if Jon said no?

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:15: Maybe you stay in Berks because you have friends, family, and neighbors there who actually like you.

rosey in washington said...

Anon 2:51 said

"Does anyone know---is this FINALLY the last Hawaii episode? There can't be another one next week, can there??"


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I think that their will definately be another Hawaii related episode next week only because TLC has been shoving the slogan: Jon and Kates Wedding Event MONTH, down our throats for a few months now, and there is still one more week in November after tonight. So, I'm thinking that it will either be them stopping somewhere else "to adjust to the time difference" or just show them traveling home and all that jazz.

And like you said, Kate will MOST DEFINATELY be exhausted the entire episode...it must be so tough to travel to San Diego and Maui for FREE for a few weeks...poor Kate.

ashley said...

anon 2:57,

Thanks for the info! I live in Canada but Im assuming its the same type of system here.

Anonymous said...

Great article from Reading Eagle I just hope they saw it. "The dullest people to get their own reality show" I think that sums it up. Sadly, as many have said they are laughing all the way to the bank thanks to the Sheeple. Just ask Jim and Tammy Faye. We can only hope that the Hayes will win the hearts of everyone and Kon will soon be an annoying thing of the past!

4girlsoneboy said...

"I'm not sure why they wanted to leave Berks so badly. It's a nice area to live in. I've got family there and I would do anything to be able to live closer to them."


They may have been in a hurry to leave Berks County but it didn't take them too long to return. I can't wait until the Reading Eagle does an article on their return.

Unistudent said...

Anonymous said...
Check out this TV review about tonite's episode

http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/reviews/view.bg?&articleid=1132786&format=&page=1&listingType=tvrev#articleFull

Thanks so much for posting this, what a relief to see mainstream media taking a real stand. KON are a true display of greed and gluttony at it's worst. I can only imagine what tonights episode will be like... when are other people going to get sicka nd tired of watching these two show off??!!

Anonymous said...

Just a quick geography lesson for those not from Pennsylvania. The Reading Eagle says former Berks County couple... What they probably mean is this. Wyomissing PA is located in Berks County. Elizabethtown where they were living and filming is in Lancaster County. If indeed they moved to the house in Wernersville as has been discussed, they will be moving back to Berks County.

Anonymous said...

to anon who posted the link to the Boston Herald article- that was GREAT. I lived in Boston many years and still love the city - so proud of that Beantown journalist =)

I still find it just jaw-dropping when the sheeple chime in about Kate being a great mom, the non-sheeple are just jealous, etc. Why do they turn such a blind eye to everything that is seen each week on national television?

Anyway, kudos to you, anon, for posting that link, and kudos to that journalist for "getting it" !

Anonymous said...

Because Jon is Catholic he was raised to believe that divorce is not allowed in the Catholic Church. That is probably why he is still with Kate. Even if he wanted to leave her, he feels like he can't.

_______________________

Jon and Kate use God to take the accountability for their actions away from themselves. Regardless of how they were raised or what they claim to believe, there is nothing Christian-like in their behavior.

Anonymous said...

I will not be watching - haven't watched in weeks... But I will be looking forward to the recap here on GWoP. KON makes me sick. Based on the Reading Eagle and Boston Herald articles in those papers today, KON has to be getting the axe soon.

Anonymous said...

Go Mady..let it shine sister!! I love that kid.

Anonymous said...

Hi Everyone, Long time reader, first time post-er.

Five minutes in and I am turning the show off. Did one of the girls just mention that you might get germs? My four year old niece doesn't know what a germ is, and, she'd never worry about catching one.

These poor kids-- they have no idea what it feels like to play in the grass, to make mud pies, and forbid if they ever were to get a stain on their clothing!!! These are not kids-- they're puppets.

tmc said...

OMG... it's only 8 minutes into the show and I was shocked when Mady said no to the "Maid of Honor" thing. This just confirms that Mady is not a push-over and refuses to let Kate rule her life and what she says. I'm sure I'll post again when the show is over.

noteventhetrees said...

Observation: Kate is once again allowed to refer to their life in "seasons", but Jon is not. Nice. This would not bother me nearly as much if she did not bite his head off when he said "seasons"... OK, back to the show...

down wih the gosselins said...

Ha! I just love how Kate tries to tell Mady she "wants" to stand next to Kate and Mady totally calls her out on it! Priceless!

ashley said...

Well its 20 minutes in (yes I gave in and watched) and all I have to say so far is GO MADY!

Anonymous said...

Wow, Jon really seemed thrilled to have his extended family there...so welcoming..NOT! This show is just like a trainwreck for me right now...I know I shouldn't watch, but I can't keep myself from watching. It's sickening.

Anonymous said...

The scene where jon "meets" his family made me uncomfortable to watch, let alone be there. Can you imagine how desperate they must be to have to reach out to family that distant? Nice slap in the face to the parents. Kate had to throw in a few one-two punches in regaurds to her first wedding as well. I loved the part where the little old lady says " your even more handsome then the man in the tv show" or something like that. Come on guys.. this show is sooooo staged you cant even hide it.

baska said...

Seems to me if the vows didn't take the first time, a full-on blowout isn't going to make them stick any better. These two are sad, and those children are an eight-car accident waiting to happen.

Anonymous said...

Kate said Jon "should have" cried because "it would have been so good." Good for what? Her ego?

I love all of the spectators in the background. I bet Kate loved that too! What, no sign that said "don't look at us as we get married again."

Very telling how more kids their leis to Jon than to Kate.

Anonymous said...

Two chumps exchange less than enthusiastic vows, again, while eight kids squirm and yelp in the background. A two-week build up for this? I believe TLC/Figure 8 has duped their audience. What a joke.

Anonymous said...

Wow what an obvious attempt to gain ratings. Jon's family members who showed up??? A second cousin and great aunt and uncle. Really?

This show was a lot to take even when it was just a family and their 8 kids trying to make it. What with Kate's obvious self absorption and Jon's complete inability to communicate. This is just WAY WAY WAY over the top.

Anonymous said...

This episode would have been a perfect departure for TLC to say goodbye Gosselin family live happily ever after.
It's a wonderful world-yeah right.

Anonymous said...

This dance is embarrassing to watch. How awkward. I especially love Kate's command "GIVE ME A KISS"

Anna said...

That is pretty sad that that was all the people that were there for the wedding. Two tables full for all the trouble of the table decorations and cake and such. But at least they didn't have to pay for it.
Observation: I wish they would alter the little girls' dresses so they wouldn't keep falling down. Every time they wear strapped dresses they are too big and fall down exposing themselves.
The best part so far: Mady telling her mom off and calling her on her lies about wanting to the be her maid of honor-NOT.

Anonymous said...

What a disgusting display of greediness!!! I think this is really the last straw for me. Watching 4 year olds get manis and pedis and their hair done! In Hawaii! For free! And Kate was telling the kids they were each could put a lei on mommy or daddy, whomever they want, but the girls and mady should be theirs on daddy and the boys and cara should put theres on her. She was probably afraid they would give them all to Jon. I set my first email to TLC tonight. I'm done...I hope the "new" familiy keeps it real so to speak.

tmc said...

Kate cannot stand when she is not the center of attention. When the kids were acting up at the ceremony, you could tell she was about to scream.

I found it telling that not one member of Kate’s family was in attendance. It just shows that their extended family is not a part of their lives…. I find that very very sad, what a lonely life they must lead. To invite people you don’t even know to your own wedding, again very said. The whole ceremony seemed to be scripted… there didn’t seem to be any real emotions of love between anyone.

Kate wanted the children to “hear her words”. FYI – Kate they were more interested in the playing in the grass to listen to what you had to say.

Wow, Jon’s family brought presents….. hmm that something Kon are used to -- more free gifts.

In closing, I found the whole show very sad.

wendimail said...

Okay, I'm watching this right now. The ceremony just wrapped up with the kids acting up..... Yeah, the kids really knew what was happening.

Ava said...

Yes, I loved how there were so many "commoners" in the background of the wedding. I bet Kate was upset that the whole area wasn't sanctioned off. I remember one lady turning around and looking with disgust almost and then just turned her back to them.
And could Kate just let the kids be themselves instead of discipling them during the ceremony?

Anonymous said...

In the middle of watching this, and I have two things to say:

1. This is the saddest, most pathetic wedding I've ever seen. They're surrounded by strangers who barely know their names!

2. The commercials for the new sextuplets in town must make Kate want to dig her eye out with a spoon! I laugh every time I see it...but who wants to see more kids exploited (even if it's to a lesser degree)?

josie said...

I really try to find the good in this show,but this seemed so forced and awkward. I almost couldn't watch the dance. So uncomfortable. Like they haven't touched before. At least not in awhile!

Anonymous said...

Grossest. Wedding. Ever! A complete and total embarrassment. J & K, pack it up!

Lonnyswife said...

I could only stomach half of it.
The 'Jon's family' stuff seemed pretty forced. The one guy says he hasn't seen Jon in 20 years. Another says, "You know, we live in Maui".
And during the vows?
Did anyone notice the
Kate-ism?
Something about "...our liknesses and differences...."
How about showing your kids you'll be together forever with a bit of kindness towards each other and some mutual respect?

moonbeem said...

I honestly don't think I can be held responsible for what I do the next time I hear that AWFUL promo song......BYE BYE TLC!!

Anonymous said...

Boy the "90 years" really freaked Jon out! Has anyone seen him since his return or did he jump off a Maui cliff?

Ravello said...

I did it, I'm KON free as of tonight. Not watching the show anymore. I'm having a ball reading the comments and watching MNF. I'll enjoy the recaps.

I hope the KON jig is up very soon.
TLC - I hope you are reading GWOP, the tide is turning. .

Anonymous said...

Everyone but Jon and Kate were blurred out of the original wedding video. Kate's blasé thank you to the wedding planner was telling. The show was 60 minutes I'll never get back. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of J&K+8.

Anonymous said...

I honestly don't think I can be held responsible for what I do the next time I hear that AWFUL promo song......BYE BYE TLC!!

I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE

Anonymous said...

That lady who turned around was staff who was keeping the spectators from getting too close.

Anonymous said...

I am a long time lurker who, well, finally HAD to post a comment about the vow renewal show. That is after I stopped laughing about the lack of familiar family at the ceremony. One gentleman, clearly not understanding the real reason why he had been invited in the first place, thanking Jon for the invite, and Jon looking asif he was speaking with a complete stranger. Oh wait, the guy WAS a stranger!

Anonymous said...

Kate's ranking...thankful for..in order
1- Sea turtles
2-Jon's family
3-wedding

Must be a pretty darn special sea turtle to get acknowledged BEFORE family

highondegrassi said...

"Kate said Jon "should have" cried because "it would have been so good." Good for what? Her ego?"

Have you ever seen anyone on TV more pathetic than Kate Gosselin? She says the dumbest things time and time again. She is just an all around ugly person, I don't care what she looks like on the outside. I have to wonder if Jon has some brain damage to agree to renew his vows to this shrew.

Anonymous said...

I think one word perfectly sums up this episode: awkward.

Meeting the relatives, the vows, the dancing... everything made me cringe as I was watching.

Anonymous said...

The Gosselin's Marriage vowel renewal was the most pityful emotionless ceremony that I have ever seen.I can only imagine that Kate & Jon are Embarrassed when they watch the replay. Wasnt it sad that they went thru the ceremony, in front of people they really did not even know... who interrupts their wedding ceremony to discipline kids?? Where was all the help that Kate usually has to hlp with the kids. i felt sorry for the poor little nanny, there is no way she can handle 8 kids by herself..
Shaking my head in disbelief in KY

Aron said...

I thought the wedding coordinator seemed like this was the worse job she had ever been given. Did she seem irritated by them?

qtrfan said...

This was the most contrived piece of crap I have ever seen. Even KON seemed uncomfortable during most of the "wedding". It was painful to watch.

Kate says over and over how happy everyone is to see THEM. She sure doesn't look happy through most of this episode.

It did not stop Kate, however, from begging for another trip to Hawaii at the end of the show - shamelessly.

This show is horrible, but it is like a car wreck that you cannot turn away from.

Surely TLC has to see how bad this is and put a stop to this sham of a reality show.

K.Barrett said...

Do you think Beth was sitting at home watching this charade, shaking her head?

I am totally convinced she is out of the picture. She and Kate dreamed up this trip while on the Utah trip. She would most certainly be there if they were still friends. Also, not giving Beth any props for the book speaks volumes too.

For those of you that think Beth is still around, you really need to think again. I think we have enough proof now.

Anonymous said...

Do Jon and Kate no any other word other than AWESOME? They are so articulate---not.

sara said...

"Kate's ranking...thankful for..in order
1- Sea turtles
2-Jon's family
3-wedding"

But Jon didn't even mention the wedding in his list did he?

Anonymous said...

The $100,000 wedding for 42 guest, including your own family of 10, 32 people you hadnt probably ever spoke too. Theyve been together 9 years and they have no friends or family other than the ones that dont know them. Very telling. I hope this is the end season of J&K8. How many 4 year olds really need pedicures when. Did Kate think that the Queen or people of great importance were going to show up at her wedding or something.
I need to go vomit.

AliceAnonymous said...

Take down the in-house lighting, drain the pool and go back to clipping coupons Jon and Kate. It's over.

Aloha.

Alexis said...

They never thought in their lives they would ever meet the kids or meet me!


Kate, you are so full of yourself. Guess what? Not everyone wants to meet you, not even family. And I bet they wished they never had after they do.

Anonymous said...

What a let down! All of the advertisement for an almost painful to watch ceremony and dinner? TLC, you lost on this one! This show does not want make me want to go to the GW, and yes, we can afford to, thank God. It does, however, make me resent TLC and the resort for rewarding these two kooks.

Anonymous said...

Remember back in the day when Kate said she had to be real on this show or she wouldn't do it. Things have changed a bit...Where was the explanation about why Jon's mother wasn't there or Jodi or Beth (or anyone else who might have attended the first wedding!)? They've gotten so far away from how things should be that they don't even know what's normal anymore. Having distant cousins there, however, is not normal.

And I have young children who really know how to be boisterous, but in a situation like a wedding (let alone our wedding), they wouldn't make a peep. Just goes to show that these kids have no relationship with or respect for their parents. Therefore, the parents can't control them. Don't KON realize that preschool teachers keep at least this many kids under control every day?

How sad to have this much money and so many opportunities but to not have anyone who loves you.

Alexis said...

BTW, wanna bet that nanny was "dealt" with by Kate for not having the kids under control and interrupting HER wedding? How dare they!

Anonymous said...

I have to thank you all on the east coast (or earlier cable feed). I LOVE Hawaii although have never stayed anywhere close to the Grand Wialea so was going to tune in for the beauty. My guess is that it is all about Jon&Kate and their "event"... BLECH! Those poor children are probably acting out during the ceremony because they are so tired of the charade!!!

Anonymous said...

What a horrible waste of resources on such a lavish non wedding for what? 10 guests that were complete strangers. So, so, sad and contrived.

Alexis said...

There was not 32 people there. It seemed like 6 people from Jon's Exteeeeeeeeeended family, 10 including themselves and miscellaneous people that look like they were the crew, not guests. Notice how they didn't film by doing a wide take showing nobody really there.


I'm not so sure Kate won't demand another pregnancy for the attention and a guarantee for another season.

scottie said...

I to was embarrassed at the dance scene, I loved how (I think it was Alexis) threw her string cheese! Im watching the new show and I already like it better the kids are going to their first day of preschool and they are putting on their own shoes and socks!!! maybe they can teach the gosselins how to do that.

Anonymous said...

This episode was a total and complete waste of time. TLC you lost your money on this one. TLC how can you air such crap? Jon was probably bribed with the golf game the next day to go through with the ceremony. The kiss was fake, the dance fake. Alexis throwing the cheese stick was priceless.

Anonymous said...

So much to say i don't even know where to start. Jon's family were only there to fill seats. They could have paid some of the locals to sit in and we all would never know the difference. Jon doesn't have a relationship w/ these people, he hasn't even seen them in 20 years (according to what one of the members said on camera). How sad is that! It would have been so much better to have seen Kevin & Jodi there and possibly her sister. But i guess thats what the first wedding was for... her side, since i assume it was her family that wasn't willing to fly to Hawaii for the first one!

I am sensing a tab bit of insecurity on Kate's part... why does she keep saying that they are reassuring the kids that they will stay together? Does she think that a vow renewal guarantees Jon won't walk out on her?? Keep dreaming sister!!

Pedicures for the tups.... ridiculous! Hope she doesn't make a habit out of it cause when the money dries up, she won't be able to afford it for them, let alone herself.

If they have such issues w/ Privacy, why was the ceremony outside near the ocean front where all the public was?? And what is w/ the security guards standing in the background? Anyone notice that?

Good for Mady for sticking up to Kate and her demand for her to be the MOH. I feel bad though for her cause she didn't get her hair done!

And what is w/ that pic at the end. Neither of the twins look happy?? Their mom and dad just vowed to stay together for 90 years... that should have brought some joy to their lives. **Rolling Eyes**

Good luck Gosselins! I am officially done watching your show! You have biten the hand that feeds you one to many times! Get over yourselves already.

momforthekids said...

The show was a huge disappointment. TLC should be ashamed of itself. That was painful to watch. I can't believe all the build-up for nothing.

I am watching the Hayes family and REALLY like it. These are down to earth people. I wish them the BEST.

Anonymous said...

This has to be the end of this crazy show. Anyone can tell by Jons comments about his wife that he is going along to get along. He does not love that women. The compliments he does give her are for the show, and his wallet. If my husband ever talked about me behind my back the way Jon does Kate. I would be heading to the court house to file for divorce. He probably cringed later on that night for the honeymoon. They seemed like they were perfect strangers getting married. Sad, Sad situation. They should spend more time teaching their children to behave better in public instead of jet setting all over the planet. I hate this show.

Anonymous said...

This episode was a joke. The kids got nothing out of this ceremony. Jon and Kate looked so awkward and ill at ease. The relatives were like complete strangers and were only there as guests of TLC and to fill some seats at the ceremony. Kate looked looked like an ungrateful shrew when they were with the wedding planner, tasting cakes, etc. How tough would it be to smile and act gracious? It is beyond comprehension, yet she and Jon and Jon are such good Christians. Right.

The mods said...

There is a blog to talk about the new TLC show.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm...the wedding co-ordinator asked "How many guests?" Kate replied "32". Well counting the J&k 10 plus Jenny, and then approx 5 crew members, and assuming that family they picked up in CA was another four, how many family members does that leave??? 12??? What a joke !!

Bethany said...

Yawn! Please cancel this show, already.

Give these children a chance to have a "normal" childhood before it is too late. Jon and Kate, your kids will become resentful towards the both of you when they get older. Kate, your kids may very well NOT want to have a relationship with you later in life.
Wake up you two and do the Right thing by your kids and that is NOT free trips and free clothes and a huge new home, without neighborhood kids to play with.
Kate, you know you are lying and I believe the two of you do feel the guilt but the "money" has gotten hold of you. Greed.
Your priorities in life are all wrong. This will catch up with the two of you.
Jon and Kate, support your own children and let them just be kids. Your tups and twins should not be your "family income".

Grow up you two and take responsibility for your own kids.
Support your family Jon and Kate and stop living off your own tups and twins.
These children will not grow up unscathed by all of this, Jon and Kate.

Anonymous said...

Their marriage is such a sham. They're business partners, not husband and wife.

Alexis said...

"Jon you look sad, what's the matter?"


"I was just thinking about the wedding."


LOL yeah, the first one, where he still could have ran like hell.

Anonymous said...

Did everyone catch how Kate said they would definitely be coming back to the resort and coming back soon? I suppose they are expecting another free deal.

I'm sure those long lost relatives will never hear from Jon and Kate again and probably won't receive thank you notes for their gifts either. Kate will be too exhausted and Jon is too illiterate to write a thank you note.

Anonymous said...

I had the best laugh in a long time tonight when jon was asked what stood out about kate's vows and he said "the part about 90 years, that is a long time" HAHA and Kate didn't even take that as the insult it was, she was "touched"

Wendy Bird said...

Dear Kon;

LISTEN to your daughter Mady, the oracle. Don't just listen to what she says. Listen to what she means.

It's very sad that your child has more wisdom in her little finger than the both of you combined.

Anonymous said...

Jump that shark, KON. Jump it!

Let us hope that the new family of multiples that came on right after them is the beginning of the end for this show.

Anonymous said...

It seems so peculiar that Kate says how they've told their kids a million times how they will be together forever and will never split up. Who has to tell their kids this a million times? I never had to tell my kids this! The only thing I can think is that there is so much yelling and disrespect shown in this home that the kids truly are afraid something is wrong between the parents. They have to be picking up on something if what Kate says is true about them needing constant reassurance that the parents won't split up.

Sharon said...

How many times is Kate going to say "We want to show our kids that we will be together forever." It's like she is trying to convince herself or even Jon that they are stuck together.

Anonymous said...

Every couple that I've known who have had to try to reassure themselves so much that they would never divorce, has ended up divorced within about two years. It seems to be generated by some innate uneasiness and a need for verbal reassurance. Trouble is that it doesn't fix the underlying problems.

Anonymous said...

Why do you have to reinforce to your children all the time that you ARE staying together? That isn't even normal UNLESS your parents fight all the time or the kids have commented on other people in their lives being cast out and their fears regarding that. It just seems very odd to me.
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I have always found this odd too. Along with the possible reasons you stated above, I also think Kate is trying to convince herself that Jon will not eventually leave her. Did you see the look on Jon's face when Kate made the reference to "the next 90 years"? He looked like he was going to throw up.

Rachel said...

I thought it was just wrong that Kate thought it was worthwhile to take her daughters for those pedicures and she couldn't even be bothered to take an interest in her sons' shirts. I just feel sorry for those boys.

i heart my hubby said...

This episode was totally all about Jon and Kate. It had very little to do with the kids. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to leave the kids back in PA but then realized they wouldn't get the trip for FREE, so they caved and took them. These people have no shame. Absolutely none.

Alexis said...

It's amazing how much they have changed in such a short time since the original episode. Only 2 years.

In 2 years, to go through 2 homes, quit his job, tummy tuck, hair plugs, teeth veneers, etc.

Amazing.

severedmetalhead said...

alexis says:

"Jon you look sad, what's the matter?"


"I was just thinking about the wedding."


LOL yeah, the first one, where he still could have ran like hell.
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Bwa ha ha ha.....that was freaking AWESOME! More like he was thinking about having to wake up next to her for the next "90 years." I would chew my own ring finger off to get out of that marriage if I were him...

Meg said...

I officially missed my first episode on purpose and deleted it from my DVR timer! Thank you all for the wonderful input on the episode, I've learned I missed nothing. I hope this new family doesn't turn into the Gosselins...it seems a lot of people are speaking about them like they spoke of KON in the beginning!

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
Did everyone catch how Kate said they would definitely be coming back to the resort and coming back soon? I suppose they are expecting another free deal.

I'm sure those long lost relatives will never hear from Jon and Kate again and probably won't receive thank you notes for their gifts either. Kate will be too exhausted and Jon is too illiterate to write a thank you note.

11/17/2008 7:40 PM
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I can picture it now, Kate calls TLC and demands another trip to the GW in Maui. "Um", says TLC, "they are not willing to comp it this time and neither are we". Kate flips her lid.........
"JOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!!
How dare they not want US at their resort!!!!! Do they know who we are??"
Yes, Kate they do....that is why they don't want you back.
Aloha!!!!! Sayonara, Adios, Later Gators!

Anonymous said...

They need to watch the Hayes for parenting tips. *gasp* no matching clothes, hand me downs, a grandmother and friends...and the parents play with the kids.

Anonymous said...

"Jon you look sad, what's the matter?"


"I was just thinking about the wedding."


LOL yeah, the first one, where he still could have ran like hell.

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Dang it, you beat me to it. That was hilarious, and soooooooo telling.

Anonymous said...

If J&K just waited until next year (their 10th anniversary and logical one for a vow renewal), the kids would have been that much older to both understand what they are witnessing and behave better. I don't know why these people seriously can't say no sometimes.

win-place-show said...

I think it is so odd that they need to tell their kids they will stay married. I bet the marriage is over in three years. Who needs a ceremony (IN HAWAII) to give that message to their kids? It seems like a stunt to get them to Hawaii for free.

Anonymous said...

Renewal Ceremony @ The Grand Wailea =(estimated cost)$10,00+
Manicures, Pedicures & Hair-dos for 6 = (estimated cost) $1,000
Golf @ The Grand Wailea for 3 = (estimated cost) $2,000
Mady telling Katie Irene that she does not want to stand by her and be her 'Maid of Honor = PRICELESS!!

Anonymous said...

That Reading Eagle article was the icing on the cake for me...BwaaaHaaHaa...!

Anonymous said...

"It's a beautiful life", ahahaha,

Thank goodness "The Wedding Event" is over.

Anonymous said...

This episode was the most painful to watch. It was SO forced, so awkward and so fake. Jon has not seen these people in years, some he is meeting for the first time. He treated them like fans. There was no warmth, no familiarity. He acted like he was doing them a favor by allowing them to come. Family means nothing to them. Nothing. And Jon and Kate kissing was SO cold and detached. It looked painful for them. These are really some strange birds. I felt no love, no passion, no warmth at all during the vows. It was all just so cold and so purely for "show".

Anonymous said...

Comment on anonynmous' post:
don't know why these people seriously can't say no sometimes.
11/17/2008 8:05 PM

Katie Irene has said numerous times, 'Who are we to say to no?' (to freebies, especially
vacation-y, Hawaiian-y ones)

Anonymous said...

I think it was Cara getting her hair curled and one of the little girls was asking her if she was doing that so they would match and Cara said---no! I don't ever want to match you! Or something to that effect. Gosh, why don't Jon and Kate pick up on this resentment? It is so telling.

Anonymous said...

It's amazing how the camera really shows people for they are. It doesn't matter how much damage control or spin they try to accomplish. It's very easy to see their intentions and their true feelings, depite what is coming out of their mouths. Even fans of the show have to admit that it was so contrived and awkward. Despite Jon and Kate trying their hardest to make it seem like the vow renewal was the real reason that they went to Hawaii,it was obvious that it was just about the free trip. They showed more enthusiasm for the sailboat excursion than they did the ceremony. It was like it was just something on the list that they were obligated to take care of.

Steph said...

I would rather be watching the Cleveland Browns lose tonight..again..than watch this hot mess of a show..


Curses!!!

Anonymous said...

What a let down! All of the advertisement for an almost painful to watch ceremony and dinner? TLC, you lost on this one!

I couldn't agree more!

A few things I have to say...

1)WTG Maddy! Pepsi went up my nose on that one! LOL

2)Why did Kate make Jon taste the cakes and then snark on him?

3)It's OK for Kate to say their life is in season but not Jon. I wanted to smack Jon for not speaking up to her.

4)They talked in previous episodes how beautiful their first wedding was. And now we come to find out they really wanted one in Hawaii. Well, why didn't you have your first wedding and then honeymoon in Hawaii and have some small get together with family then?

5)How can you sit there and say you wanted your kids to be a part of this at 7 and 4? They don't get it. Hell I'm going through a divorce and my 6 and 4 year old don't get that. It's not like the kids were even paying attention to what was going on and Kate had to discipline them during the ceremony. Why couldn't this have waited until they were married more years...say 15-20?

6)Jon looks like he has checked out of this marriage. Heck, I even think Kate has checked out. They both go through the physical actions of it but the emotions, to me, seem gone.

7)And my last point...what no layover in San Diego going home? Just hop on a plane and head home. Poor kids...jet lag must have SUCKED when they got home.

Anonymous said...

Who's to say these two dorks won't be split up before the ten year mark? Jon seriously needs his head examined. He's lost just as many brain cells as he has hair cells."

They probably will be split up, if only in Jon's dreams. Whenever she says they'll be together forever (which is often), she looks at him like she has something to blackmail him with. He nods and looks absolutely miserable!

chipsndip said...

I don't beleive they'll be together forever. I am sure as soon as the show is over, Kate's skipping town with her Swiss bank account!

Anonymous said...

Why do you have to reinforce to your children all the time that you ARE staying together? That isn't even normal UNLESS your parents fight all the time or the kids have commented on other people in their lives being cast out and their fears regarding that. It just seems very odd to me
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It IS odd. My guess is that the kids have heard a thousand times that Dad wants to get out and leave the shrew once and for all. I could just see Kate telling the kids, "Kids, Daddy wants to leave us! What a bad man. Tell Daddy he just can't leave us!"

Anonymous said...

You must read the Boston Herald review of this episode and the show in general. The headline is "This 'Plus' is a minus: Jon and Kate are doing their children no favors. After totally slamming the episode, the reviewer goes on to say that these kids are being exploited and that the show is just an infomercial that should be on the Travel Channel. It's a great review. I saw it in the paper today (not on-line). It was a big headline with picture and story that took up most of the page. It was definitely an attention getter.

Anonymous said...

Kate was trying really hard to show all of us how she is more "relaxed" about things. She told the girls they could pick any color for their nails (although she vetoed bright red when someone picked that color). She didn't care if Mady didn't get her hair done. She didn't mind if the kids didn't line up perfectly during the ceremony, etc. More attempted damage control.

Anonymous said...

That was the best they could do for a kiss at the end of the ceremony???

That was the best they could do for their dance and kiss at the end???

Where the hell is the passion and spark you should have seen there???

I mean most people renew their wedding vows because they are still in love with each other and are making that commitment all over again. That some kind of spark and love are still there in their marriage.

This is just a joke to all people who did/do renew their vows for special occasions.

chipsndip said...

I am sure Jon has wanted to leave and Kate has said "Jon, you have to leave the checkbook and ATM card HERE. Kids, tell daddy that he's broke without us."

Anonymous said...

This is an article that was in our newspaper this morning. This is the local paper that Jon and Kate would be reading. Wonder what their reaction was to it.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=114198
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KON reads? Wow. I like this guy! Bet the sheeple will once again complain he is jealous, because he actually GETS it for what it is and all..

Anonymous said...

What a pathetic show, just plain sad (with a few funny things thrown in):

* Good for Mady that she revealed she did NOT want to stand with her mom as MOH. Ha, good one Mady !

* Could KON have been any colder, less enthusiastic, unappreciative or unhappy with the wedding planner ? This is something that you've dreamed of your whole life and you are acting like you are in prison !

* When Kate commented that they wanted their first wedding to be in Hawaii, but other family members " couldn't or weren't willing" to make the trip...what a bitchy thing to say. Again, it's all about Kate, Kate, Kate. Who cares if people have to take time off from work or don't have the $ to go to Hawaii for a wedding?

* I didn't think it was a big deal that the girls all had mani-pedis, it was a special day (and Mady, THAT is a pedicure, not the torture that your mom insisted you endure a couple episodes ago). I just thought it would have been a nice gesture to let Jenny get one too - it's not like KON is paying for anything. I treat my babysitters WAY better than Kate treats her "mother's helper", and I only use my babysitters once in a while.

* So obvious the kids couldn't care less about the ceremony, despite Kate's declaration they were all sooooooooo excited about the wedding.

* Why does Kate think that everyone is so excited to meet her/have her there/see her ? She is so delusional it's actually frightening.

* Jon looked scared to death when Kate's vows included being together for the next 90 years. Lordy be, Jon, good luck!

* On the couch, after the scene where the kids are told to sit during the ceremony, Kate said something like " I parent all the time at home, why wouldn't I parent during the ceremony?" or something like that. Give me a freaking break - parenting is not barking orders from a $4 white plastic chair.

* TLC wasted some serious $ on that wedding dress show that showed Kate's dilemna of deciding between 2 dresses. The dress was ok, nothing spectacular. Kate actually looked beautiful in her "real" wedding.

* Again, we see several minutes of the boys running around in their underwear. Hasn't this no-no been discussed ad nauseum ????

* Leah saying something about Kate promised her a Hershey Kiss if she did something (can't remember) - would that be the rare treat of the organic Hershey Kiss ?

* So pathetic that the only people to show up were Jon's way extended family who he has either never met or hasn't seen in 2 decades. Nothing against extended family, but if he doesn't talk to his immediate family that live close to him, why would he talk to his extended family that live thousands of miles away ? Ditto for Kate- NOBODY to share this memory-making event with her, and she thinks that's just peachy.

What a pathetic wedding and reception. The only thing that saved it was the beautiful surroundings. BTW, I hope EVERYONE sends letters to the GW about this episode !!!

Aloha !

Steph said...

just like they said on the Soup show on E...next year this show will be called JOHN MINUS 9!

Anonymous said...

Being totally snarky here, but didn't Kate look so much bigger and taller than Jon at the wedding? I guess she must have had on some kind of heel, but she just looked like she was towering over him. Plus, I didn't think her dress looked like it really fit properly on the top. Okay, being totally critical. Just my opinion. LOL.

Lisa said...

Wow. That episode was both difficult and funny to watch at the same time. The lack of any type of genuine affection between J&K is so glaring. It is actually difficult to watch them attempt to justify the reason they are there in Hawaii at all. We all know it is for the free vacation, meals, clothing, etc. It has nothing to do with their vow renewal - I mean, seriously, who renews their wedding vows "nine years and two moths" after their wedding?
It is funny because J&K still think the public is that gullible - that we will believe anything they say. They contradict themselves constantly. It is very difficult for them to keep their lies straight - they have told too many to recall.
I have read the two aforementioned articles and I can only hope that the rest of America will finally wake up & realize what kind of people J&K are.
Having said all of that, I watched the show about the Hayes family & they seem wonderful - much more in touch with their children and real life. They actually eat candy & McDonald's! Their daughter has cerebral palsy & they are dealing with real problems. The parents are loving with the children & could not be happier just to be parents - they were ecstatic, not horrified, when they found out they were having sextuplets. It is refreshing to see.

C said...

If anything, Kon depicted in this "wedding" exactly what their relationship is all about - awkwardness, being fake, materialistic, phoney & capitalizing on freebies. All the while being surrounded by people who don't know them (with people who really really know them far far away, as in 5000 miles away.)

Anonymous said...

Because Jon is Catholic he was raised to believe that divorce is not allowed in the Catholic Church. That is probably why he is still with Kate. "

Nah, he renounced his Catholic faith a long time ago thanks to the shrew. The reason he is with her is called child support for 8 kids, not to mention custody and visitation issues..having the worst ex on the planet..

Anonymous said...

The children were out of control. If Jon and Kate had thought about something else besides themselves, they would have planned the ceremony better for the children to participate. They could of had themselves and the children holding hands in the beautiful flower circle and confirm that they are united as one group. This would of kept the children in order. If my children ever behaved this way at a wedding....

Anonymous said...

I have never written a letter to a sponsor to complain about this show. My husband and I thought about staying at the GW when will be in Hawaii in February. I told my husband, No, not ever never! In fact, even though my husband says 4 Seasons close is by does not compare, we will stay there and god as my witness I will go by and tell them in person why we chose to stay at their competitor. Pedicures for children at the GW???!!! This is crazy, and I can't believe they're showing this excessive extravagance during this recession.
Then the bitch had the balls to say they will be back!? She's so delusional.

Anonymous said...

I just finished watching the
wedding "renewal" episode. Agree
with everything said. However, Jon
does Not seem as miserable as he did...he seems to have "gotten with the program"...31 years old (or something like that) and "early retirement" already.

Looks like in "Gosselin World" one does not have to worry about a recession, etc. etc.

Go Mady! I agree.

ajh said...

I thought the whole ceremony was just sad. The idea of having a ceremony for the side of the family that couldn't come the first time around, is a nice idea, but it was obvious that this was just for the show and the family was just an afterthought. Otherwise his mom would have been there. You would think that for such an important event in your life you would want important people in your life there. If it was a true vow renewal and they had not alienated all their close family members, I would bet many would have come.
Jon talking with his relatives the next day, and saying how nice it was to hear stories about his mom when she was young was just sad. It sounded like he was talking about someone who was dead, but as far as I kow she is alive, just not invited.

Anonymous said...

Twins, Twins and Sextuplets was a completely refreshing and inspiring show to watch after seeing Jon and Kate's ratings grab tonight. Watch out, a new family is on the TLC lineup!

Wendy Bird said...

I just wanted to give a shout out to the moderator/s tonight! You are doing a fabulous job!

Jon is probably sitting in his "cloffice" (office in the closet) hitting the refresh button every ten seconds to keep up with the new posts. Oh wait...they have moved into the McMansion where he, no doubt, has a 16X20 foot office to "work" in.

Anonymous said...

I have a few comments..

1. I agree, who tells their children they are going to be together forever? I would worry why my kids were so insecure about it and fix THAT issue first. No one can guarentee forever, affairs happen, illness and so on..I can't wait until they do split and one of the kids does the ole but you PROMISED!

2. I cannot believe that had an entire reception! I thought they were having a little ceremony and dinner not a 3 tier cake, table settings, flowers and so on, how tacky!

3. If Kate and Jon really cared about anyone else, wouldn't this had been a nice trip to thank their helpers? Come to our "re-marry" and we'll foot the bill since you've been so kind to us! No. They invited strangers/"relatives".

4. I think Kate has lost her marbles and I truly believe now she can not function outside of the show. She referred to their lives in SEASONS and knew how many times they shared a "peck" on film. I believe when she said to Jon, you should have cried, oh that would have been so good..she meant good t.v.!! I think she has totally lost it. The kids missed the hotel staff!?!?!?! They constantly ask about the hotel staff!?!?!? Are you kidding me?!!? I notice she didn't thank any of the "staff" by name. She thinks the ladies at the salon wanted to meet and hang out with her children, she honestly thinks she is a celeb! Jon's family didn't think they would ever get to meet us in "real life"..sad, just sad.

5. I think the kids are acting out terrible. Any pictures I see of the twins lately they look miserable. I feel so bad for them. At least MAdy expresses herself, Cara seems to withdrawl.

6. After seeing this I do think Jon would leave Kate if he thought it was possible. Watching him take Cara and Mady snorkling and down the slides, I thought, ya know, minus the show and all this crap I bet he was an awesome father to them and has the ability to be again. I think had the tups not been born he would have left Kate and no doubt had at least 50% custody of the girls. I will admit I enjoy seeing him take care fo the kids, esp. the boys. No wonder he was given more necklaces. However, I know he is just as responsible as Kate, I just wonder hoe he got so far off track.

7. Could that wedding kiss have been anymore colder?!!? It wasn't even a deep pressed kissed with lips closed, nope, just a quick peck..

Anonymous said...

I think it's strange/telling that TLC chose the title of this episode to be "For Better or Worse". It sounds very negative, and doesn't seem to follow the feeling of "Legos and Safaris" or "Leis and Luaus". It just sounds very ominous.

The mods said...

Thank you!

Anonymous said...

All the talk from Kate about telling her kids the wedding is to show the kids they'll be together forever is PR people talking. It's just a way to promote the episode without telling the truth. They had to think of something they felt the majority of viewers might believe and that would sound plausable for the kids to believe. So they made up some ridiculous excuse that they were doing it 'for the kids'.

We've been on to J&K for a long time. We know the 'wedding' was concocted for the family to take a great vacation to a luxurious location all to make a ton of money for the network and J&K by making a month's worth of episodes for the tv show.

Thank goodness that's over! Now, we have their charitable yard sale to look forward to.

Anonymous said...

Where can I get some organic Hershey Kisses?

Kate's dress just didn't do anything for her. Her first dress looked much better and I'm sure it was cheaper.

I usually like to watch weddings, but not this one. That was just plain boring. There was nothing to it. I was about to fall asleep.

Now the Hayes family show, I really liked it. It fact, I was more awake for their show than I was for the wedding. Jon and Kate, it's time to end your boring show.

Anonymous said...

I have never written a letter to a sponsor to complain about this show. My husband and I thought about staying at the GW when will be in Hawaii in February. I told my husband, No, not ever never! In fact, even though my husband says 4 Seasons close is by does not compare, we will stay there and god as my witness I will go by and tell them in person why we chose to stay at their competitor. Pedicures for children at the GW???!!! This is crazy, and I can't believe they're showing this excessive extravagance during this recession.
Then the bitch had the balls to say they will be back!? She's so delusional.

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I have to respectfully disagree. The GW, while beautiful, is a 5-star wannabe (hey! just like KON!). I stayed at the GW 2 years ago and the Four Seasons on my honeymoon 13 years ago. The Four Seasons is a true 5-star establishment in every aspect. The only things the GW has over the 4S are the pools - the GW's pools are indeed amazing and fantastic for families (I would never stay there without my kids).

So, if you are planning a family trip, the GW is the way to go (if you can ignore the fact that they sponsored KON's trip ) if you are planning a romantic, quiet trip, stay at the 4S or the Kea Lani.

Anonymous said...

Not only was this one of the most painful episodes to watch because of the over the top Kon behavior but it was truly one of the worst produced of the entire run of the program.

I suspect it's because when filming at the Konpound over the course of the week, the editors have a lot of material to sort through and pick out moments where Jon and Kate and the kids are on their best behavior. Since the time in Maui was limited, so was the filming time and thus less extra footage to pad the episode, and the truth was more apparent and glaring than ever.

Why would you show that wedding footage with everyone blurred out, if you were really trying to plead the case that Jon and Kate needed a second wedding - why make the case that there were actually lots of people there to support them at their first ceremony..people that now they won't even show on film! Comparing their first, what appeared to be lovely traditional wedding filled with loved ones, to the fake, manufactured ceremony that your children couldn't even respect or sit through, with rows of empty chairs was again, not in Kon's best interest at all.

Why would you show the kids acting up, why would you include Jon and Kate making fun of the "circle of love" when it was obvious the wedding official took time to explain to Jon the symbolism of it (can you imagine what that huge beautiful circle of flowers cost?) and how the different flowers represented their children, and that part was not shown, and Kon making fun of the circle, was included.

Nothing but complaints, and the whole thing with the extended family (that Kate loves, but we never see her talking to) was shameful. Imagine what the trip would have been like for those kids if they would have visited the homes of their relatives who live there?

Ugh. I suspect Figure 8 is moving on to their next meal ticket, because they didn't even try to make this sham look good for tv.

babeeberry said...

Is Kate really that self centered that she thought Jon's family couldn't believe they would get to meet her in "real life?!" Meeting her is THAT big of a priviledge?

They must have gone shaken the crap outta Jon's family tree to scrounge up the relatives who were there. Jon didn't even seem to know some of his own relatives, how pitiful.

They acted uncomfortable through most of the episode, almost like they were paid actors. I even caught a couple of the kids spilling the beans on how Kate was bribing them with chocolate to smile during the wedding.

Oh, and didn't the Brady bunch take a trip to Hawaii right before their show was cancelled?? Perhaps Hawaii is were all cheesy, make~believe shows go to die...hopefully.

Anonymous said...

Eh, too much to mention. Just a few of the lowlights:
*Jon could not be any more unsociable and awkward meeting these strangers/family! Cringe..
*They thanked him profusely for inviting him and the obvious reason was they wanted to be on TV and also got to enjoy a day of perks at a 5 star resort!
*Kate could not stop gushing, as usual, about how the people were so excited to meet them, never thought they'd actually get to meet the kids and Kate, etc. LMAO.
*The kids, even the twins who are old enough to know better, acted up completely all the way through and Kate snaps, "Do whatever you want!" I know she was dying inside over that : )
*Did she EVER interact ONCE with her boys in Hawaii??
*At most weddings you'd see the little kids dancing and having fun and interacting with guests. Not this one!
*Awkward, awkward, awkward interaction between KON. Cringing again.
*Love how they had to blur out everyone at the first wedding, since they are all now alienated and all.
*Kate mentions something about how they made them 'work for their money' by having to do the wedding traditions first. What a chore!Funny how the wedding thing that was such an incovenience (because you know they were just forced into it to get their free trip and they now want to go back and not have to do that nonsense) wrapped up their freebie trip to Hawaii. Right after that they jetted out of there and you just know the wedding was the most boring part to them and a hassle to boot!

Anonymous said...

how Kate was bribing them with chocolate to smile during the wedding.
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Ah yes, I forgot to mention, wonder if the chocolate kisses the tups mentioned were organic!

Anonymous said...

Maybe Kate wouldn't test out the cakes because they weren't organic *insert eye-roll here*

Anonymous said...

They acted uncomfortable through most of the episode, almost like they were paid actors. I even caught a couple of the kids spilling the beans on how Kate was bribing them with chocolate to smile during the wedding.
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Thank you! Couldn't remember what Leah said Kate promised her.

Organic Hershey Kisses of course =)

Anonymous said...

Yes this whole thing is a big joke and they are the biggest moochers on the planet. To anon at 9:08. Kate didn't say they have to work for their money. She made a comment about what tradition to do first (dinner, dancing cake etc.) and She said "lets do the dance first, then we'll be working for our dinner."

Anonymous said...

hi, all..I'm a first time blogger on GWoP...i have religiously watched every single episode of J&K+8 for a good year or two now. But now i have seen the light and am seriously considering to quite watching...just three quick comments regarding the show.

1)kate's hair: can someone please either chop off her hair or at least change her hairstyle?? that bang thing she has....it's hideous!! i was watching the show tonight, and i wanted to take a pair of sissors, and go into the t.v. to cut it off!!

2)Jenny: poor Jenny...did you see her facial expression? she doesn't look at all happy to be there with the KON clan. plus, why is Jenny watching the kids more often than Jon and Kate?? Jenny had to watch all 8 kids while Jon and Kate ran off to choose place settings and cake flavors for their 30-some guests. i think Jenny should sue KON for not following labor laws.

3)i read a post by someone else on another strand that had a link to recent J&K +8 interviews. In the interview on Good Morning America, Kate was asked about their book, Multiple Bles8ings. Did you guys hear Kate's reply? she made no mention of Beth at all!!! As if Kate wrote a whole book by herself. argh...that woman bugs!!!

thanks all for reading...i really enjoy the entries on GWoP...it's my new favorite website.

Anonymous said...

Forgot to add one more thing:

Why is Kate always, always, always holding Hannah ? After the salon, and then when they were taking pictures at the reception, Kate was holding Hannah but the rest of the kids were sitting around the table. If there are any naysayers or doubters out there who don't see Kate's blatant favoritism of Hannah, here you go.

Anonymous said...

ok seriously, if you need to bribe your kids with chocolate to get them to smile....I honestly can't even think of any words to say about this...except for HOW can kon not see what this is doing to their children?....I guess those dollar signs are truly blinding them.

oh, and I totally agree with the poster who mentionned the least they could have done was let Jenny in on the pedicure. I'm willing to bet she puts up with a lot more than is shown on tv...and I'm sure she more than earned a pedicure...

Tami said...

If they really wanted to see his family as they claimed, they would have had them there before the day of the ceremony to spend some time getting to know them. Not just have them in as seat fillers! Jon did not even attempt to explain why his mother who is from Hawaii did not even show up. And of course none of the guests asked since I'm sure all that would be edited out anyway. Kate talks about how much she loved those people but if she had any real interaction with them, TLC would have showed it since it would be good tv and show the critics they do have good relationships. Nope, not one scene of her talking with them.

Anonymous said...

Why is Kate always, always, always holding Hannah ? After the salon, and then when they were taking pictures at the reception, Kate was holding Hannah but the rest of the kids were sitting around the table. If there are any naysayers or doubters out there who don't see Kate's blatant favoritism of Hannah, here you go.


But did you notice that even Hannah gave her flowers to Jon

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be very interesting and hilarious if the "relatives" who met them at the wedding started posting here and told some inside info? Bet they were very impressed with them ::snicker:: Or were they maybe forced to sign a confidentiality agreement? ; )

Anonymous said...

So they've only kissed on camera four times in four seasons. Why does this not come as a surprise?

Jon: I'm kissing Kate.

Wedding Co-or: You have no choice.


Priceless.

Anonymous said...

Would it have killed Kate to ask the Salon people if Jenny could get her hair or nails or pedicure? You know that would have been so sweet..........Oh good grief I lost my head for a moment and though Kate could actually think of someone other than herself. Silly me. Monumental brain fart. I apologize won't happen again.

Anonymous said...

oh, and I totally agree with the poster who mentionned the least they could have done was let Jenny in on the pedicure. I'm willing to bet she puts up with a lot more than is shown on tv...and I'm sure she more than earned a pedicure...

11/17/2008 9:21 PM
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She probably did get the perks but Kate would not allow her to steal her thunder and be filmed getting her spa treatments. I'm sure they would have done at a different time than when the girls were filmed. Kate couldn't let anyone else get the spotlight. Oh, and the girls would probably talk to her and not Kate so that would be another slap in the face.

Anonymous said...

4 year olds deserving of a pedicure, but not Jenny? Just another show of Kate's greed and lack of appreciation. Run Jenny...don't look back!!

babeeberry said...

Another thought. Why didn't Jenny get to have her nails done, or her hair and makeup?? They are obviously on a "film set" and hair and makeup are a given, right? I feel bad for her because it doesn't seem like Jon and Kate even talk to her. If I had a helper like Jenny I'd would love to share all of those perks with her, it shows appreciation. Poor Jenny, I hope this experience doesn't scar her for life.

Anonymous said...

Yes this whole thing is a big joke and they are the biggest moochers on the planet. To anon at 9:08. Kate didn't say they have to work for their money. She made a comment about what tradition to do first (dinner, dancing cake etc.) and She said "lets do the dance first, then we'll be working for our dinner."

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Oh ok. I knew it was something like that. Yes, working for her dinner. I figured everyone would jump on a comment made by Kate that finally had something to do with work!

Anonymous said...

Why was Hannah's dress always falling off? Why didn't anyone fix it? Or at least tell Hannah to adjust the strap back up. I'm surprised Kate isn't teaching the girls about modesty.

Rachel said...

Forgot to add one more thing:

Why is Kate always, always, always holding Hannah ? After the salon, and then when they were taking pictures at the reception, Kate was holding Hannah but the rest of the kids were sitting around the table. If there are any naysayers or doubters out there who don't see Kate's blatant favoritism of Hannah, here you go.

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I've got a the whole pecking order of the tups worked out. It goes Hannah, Leah, Alexis, Collin, Aaden, Joel.

Anonymous said...

To the person who said that Jon would not divorce because he was raised Catholic, neither of their ceremonies would be valid in the Catholic church.

Anonymous said...

TLC is not filming a show about multiples...it is well aware of the total hubris of these two unstable people. And 10 years from now it well be used as an example of how reality tv destroyed a family.

Anonymous said...

OMG, the wedding was SOOO awkward. Poor Jenny was responsible for all of the children... no friends OR family who knew the kids were there to help during the ceremony. Because there ARE NO FRIENDS OR FAMILY in their lives now. It's heartbreaking, really.

Anonymous said...

For such supposedly devout Christians, this ceremony was glaringly lacking the mention of God or the meaning of marriage for that matter. It was a joke. So funny when Jon was supposed to be remembering Kate's vows and he said scriptures. She corrected him and said she didn't have any of those. Of course not. Nor could either of them really even recall what the other said!

UniStudent said...

I really agree with everyone who is saying that it didn't seem like KON even cared about the "re-marriage" ceremony at all.

It was extremely forced. The interactions with Jon's family all made me cringe. He was so completely socially akward. He showed just how uncourteous, how ungracious and how cut off from the real world he really is.

All social and familial interactions seem very fake. They talked about how grateful everyone was to meet them. They acted that way because they were seeing family that they have never met, and family is important to them! Jon and Kate should have been showing just as much appreciation for meeting these new family members! I don't think their excitement had anything to do with their show.

These two have truly lost their grip with reality. Let's hope they end this show soon. What an example of how money and "fame" can ruin people.

Anonymous said...

To the person who said that Jon would not divorce because he was raised Catholic, neither of their ceremonies would be valid in the Catholic church."

True, and it could be easily annulled. But he gave up his faith for Kate so the fact that he was Catholic probably has no bearing on whether he'd want to divorce. It's probably just easier not to.

Anonymous said...

I loved watching Kate say her vows, she got choked up at the part where she promised to respect Jon's feelings and be nicer or whatever... it's like she had a hard time saying it because she knows that none of that will happen..


and one other thing that has bothered me lately..
"We will only do this show until the children say they are done."-Kate Gosselin

I'm pretty sure Mady and Cara are SCREAMING they are done... why aren't you listening? waiting for a majority vote?

Anonymous said...

I've got a the whole pecking order of the tups worked out. It goes Hannah, Leah, Alexis, Collin, Aaden, Joel.
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Sorry, that is a little off. It would be Hannah, Leah, Collin, Aaden, Alexis, Joel

Anonymous said...

I am sure that whatever gifts the relatives gave them will be scoffed at and returned or sold on consignment. No way are they going to be good enough for KON! And it would have been a little more believable if we'd seen any of the relatives excitedly meeting the kids. Most people ARE excited to meet young, cute relatives. You can tell they interacted very little with these people who were begged to show up just to avoid the entire thing looking like the farce it was.

Anonymous said...

That sorry excuse for a wedding reception would have come off better in the living room of their hotel suite. It would have given the illusion of a party. Twelve or thirteen guests scattered in that huge area just looked so pathetic.

I'm embarrassed for them.

Quinn said...

I watched about half of this episode. It was a snoozefest like usual. I only watch some of it now with the intentions of coming on here and knowing what everyone is talking about. A few things I noticed...

*Kate seemed so rude when she met the wedding coordinator. A really dull "hi". Does she think she's a real celeb or something? LOL

*Preschoolers getting pedicures? How ridiculous. "I'm staring them early with some really bad habits" says Kate. You sure are woman.

*What the heck is the deal with constantly saying "we're getting married again, we're getting remarried"? Even the kids were saying it like that. It's called a renewal of your vows Kon.

*And what's up with "oh we're doing this to show that we'll be together forever, blah, blah". Kids in a normal, happy home just assume their parents will be together forever. It's called security. Young kids typically don't feel worried about their parents splitting up, especially at the age of four.

*Cara and Mady are so miserable. Poor girls.

*The little ones don't know any different. Poor kids.

*I agree that the meeting of the relatives was awkward. Totally awkward.

*It was kinda funny how there were just a bunch of random people sitting in the audience at the "wedding". I'd rather renew my vows without an audience than have a bunch of seat-fillers.

*Shame on you TLC. You're taking the childhoods away from these little kids all in the name of money. You're just as much to blame as Kon. How do you all sleep at night?

*I've had enough of the greedy greedy Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

I love the Hayes family! I had the Gosselin circus wedding on in the background but when the Hayes family came on, I actually was interested. They seem REAL.
It's such a stark comparison.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe Kate didn't have a pre-ceremony talk with those kids about what kind of behavior was expected of them. They claim to be regular church goers. Granted, they weren't in a church but she should have told them that the same rules apply. I guess if she had done that though, she wouldn't have the opportunity to interrupt the ceremony and "parent".

Anonymous said...

I always find it quite funny when they show video of Jon and Kate prior to their marriage and of the original wedding. Kate talks with that breathy, little girl voice, who wouldn't say shit if she had a mouthful.

Now that she's "got" him, it's JOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!, HELLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??!!, and, my personal favourite, "Must you BREATHE so loud?!?!" (complete with actions).

Just sayin'.

Anonymous said...

I've complained about this show many, many times yet this is the first time I truly felt sick watching it.

The greedy is become even more painfully obvious, and I really did not think it could get any worse.

Then there was Kate pretending she was okay with the children doing whatever. At least she let the girls pick their own color of nail poish without complaint. I kept thinking back to the pottery painting day when she was so uptight that she tried to control everything. What one must keep one's mouth shut for freebies.

I just about shoved my finger down my throat when John and Kate were reciting their vows. It all just sounded way too scripted and fake.

Let's not mention how telling it was that they were so desperate for attendants that they had to resort to people that 99% of the family had never met. I almost feel sorry for Jon and Kate for what their lives must be like if strangers are the only people they can come up with when they have to include other people in a family event.

What was a shock was at the end when Kate was telling the hotel person that they would be back, then she turned to Jon and said something like "We will be back, won't we?" It was SO obvious she was hinting for the network to find another excuse to send them back.

If those two don't watch it, their heads are going to burst from the ego that keeps growing inside their brains.

Anonymous said...

Jon - "We thought about running away and eloping on another part of the island."

Did anyone else think he was talking about himself and Jenny? ;)

Anonymous said...

I can't believe Kate didn't have a pre-ceremony talk with those kids about what kind of behavior was expected of them.

Actually she tried to but the kids were so hyper she gave up. The only one who appeared to be listening was one of the twins, whilst probing one of her nostrils. That kinda said it all.

rosey in washington said...

Anon 6:36 said

"Wow what an obvious attempt to gain ratings. Jon's family members who showed up??? A second cousin and great aunt and uncle. Really?"


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I know I totally agree with you! I mean they had all those distant family members but NO immediate family, like either of Kates parents (who are both still living) and none of Kates 5 brothers or sisters. They didn't even have ONE SINGLE friend there, I mean if that doesn't say something I don't know what would!

rosey in washington said...

I am going to be watching tonights episode again in just a couple minutes, and thats when I will be posting my comments about the episode, but I just wanted to comment and agree with the other poster about the MODERATERS and what a FANTASTIC job they are doing!!

I mean seriously, I know I am not the only one who looks forwards to Monday nights/Tuesday afternoons due to the fact that I get to come on this site and complain and talk with other people who feel the same way about the Gosselins that I do...and NONE of any of this would be possible without our great mods!!

THANKS SO MUCH!!

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