Leis and Luaus - November 10

After several days of travel, the Gosselins arrive in Hawaii and learn about Hawaiian culture through private lei making and hula lessons, Hawaiian cooking classes, snorkeling in the Pacific Ocean and participating in a traditional Grand Luau. (60 minutes)

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Anonymous said...

It's only been on for 20 minutes and I already feel I need to count how many times Kate has said "out of their way," "accommodate," and "special." This would make for an excellent drinking game...haha

Anonymous said...

How is this reality television? The Gosselins are living in a fantasy world where "middle Americans" take lavish trips to California and Hawaii and pass them off as ordinary "family vacations." Especially in this economy, it turns the stomach to see this sort of indulgence. We're lucky if we can drive to Myrtle Beach for the weekend. The thing with John and Kate is they want to connect to average American families, but they are no longer the average (albeit large) American family. They seem to have this sense of entitlement that they "earned" these trips because they birthed beautiful kids. OK - enough already.

Anonymous said...

The gluttony of these people. That meal was quite extravagant. Ordering lobster for four year olds?

Liz said...

I think Mady has figured out that if she acts up she gets away from these people. Can we blame her? The poor kid gets the one on one attention she so craves.

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
It's only been on for 20 minutes and I already feel I need to count how many times Kate has said "out of their way," "accommodate," and "special." This would make for an excellent drinking game...haha

11/10/2008 6:20 PM
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Is she referring to the way they are accommodating them and the special treatment they are receiving? I noticed in the description it says how they are getting "private" hula and lei making lessons. Why does every thing have to be "private?" I really hope that even the sheepest of the sheepie, begin to realize that they are beginning to take advantage of all the freebies thrown their way and the interest of the kids is not their priority anymore. It's all about gimme gimme gimme. I wonder if the Gosselin 10 are sitting in their new home possibly in a "theatre" room (given all the hints they dropped the last time they viewed movies) and are watching themselves soak up the luxuries of exploitation at its best.

Ava said...

I'm gagging from the iccky sweetness dripping from her mouth. Can she be any more fake?
And letting your kids eat lobster. I'm sure they weren't paying for it so why not. Get them used to the expensive stuff early.
I'm gagging right now.

Shayla said...

Lazy Kate is even hulaing in her chair. How lazy can she get?

Anonymous said...

What kind of idiots would travel to Hawaii for their own wedding and not already have their 3 sons shirts picked out?

Anonymous said...

they didn't order the tups their own lobster, joel just had a bite of jon's, and jon made a comment like 'joel ate a pound of my lobster'. granted it was a huge looking meal.

Anonymous said...

I made the first comment about the food and I guess I made a mistake about the lobster but still for all those people it was a bit much.

Anonymous said...

What kind of idiots would travel to Hawaii for their own wedding and not already have their 3 sons shirts picked out?

The boys are second class citizens. It couldn't be more clear. Look at the way Kate reacted to Leah putting her face in the water and swimming compared to the way she reacted to Collin that other time. It made me want to gag.

Ava said...

I bet none of that lobster and pork are organicly raised. But why would Kate care, it is free! FREE!
As or the shirts, on the other epi. they mentioned they wanted "authenic" Hawaiian shirts for the boys, so they waited till they got there. Maybe they should have ordered online. But that would mean they would have to pay for it. If they wait till they get there, they can get the resort to GIVE them to them. Geesh. This is sicker and sicker

Anonymous said...

KON must have been appaulled to find out that they wouldn't have their own private luau.

Anonymous said...

during the luau did I see "sippie" cups on the table? Or did all the other tables have these cups for kids.At least they didn't have to wear bis for the luau.

Anonymous said...

I about died when Jon said he "remembered" the resort had Hawaiian shirts and he would look there for them(free, free, free)

Anonymous said...

They need to travel all the way to Hawaii to learn about the culture? Maybe they should take a trip to the local library and open something called a book.

Oh, had to laugh as TLC's site has a blurb about planning your vacation to hawaii like the Gosselins. Too bad TLC doesn't list how to get that vacation for free.

tmc said...

I cannot imagine how much the suite they stayed in cost. It was absolutely huge and very beautiful. Has anyone here researched the cost?

Watching Leah swim was so awesome….she looked so cute and was so proud of herself. How cute was Aaden saying “Nice to meet you” to the bakery chef. I felt so bad that Mady was not included in the cookie baking. Though I am not a fan of Kate, I do understand why she feels the need at times to make that decision. Mady’s behavior at times can be overwhelming and maybe she just needs some time to herself (though I’m sure Jenny was with her).

Geez, could Kate whip that free pink IPHONE out any faster to take pictures. It took like a nano-second.

sarah said...

Yes, there were plastic sippie cups. THe ones that pop up a straw.

Anonymous said...

during the luau did I see "sippie" cups on the table? Or did all the other tables have these cups for kids.At least they didn't have to wear bis for the luau.

Yup, they had sippie cups. Maybe no bibs, but I did notice highchairs around the table. How old are they now, 4.5?

Anonymous said...

I think People magazine should have changed their headline from "America's Favorite Family" to "America's Favorite Charity Case". They both need to get jobs and stop depending on their kids for their income and freebies in life.

Anonymous said...

These people just are making my stomach turn. With this ecomony lets see how much free stuff we can throw in the publics face..

tmc said...

Are they serious??? They are dragging this out for another week!!!!

Anonymous said...

All the Luxury Places that offer the Gosselins FREE Stuff are not stupid, they are getting GREAT advertising for the cost of a room, meal, etc.
Can you imagine how expensive it would be for one of those resorts to do a commercial but they can offer a free room to TLC for KON and gets lots of attention and media coverage.

The Chef who made cookies iwth the kids, will now be FAMOUS!! I bet he still has the Macadamia Mady Cookes and Cara cookies on his menu. Cost him a few cookies and some of his time, for FAME.

C said...

Hey Kate was the lobster and pork ORGANIC???

Anonymous said...

You know, I have to agree with others here...the show isn't even over yet and I'm feeling a little irritated about seeing this "middle-class" family go on a probably 20,000+ vacation. My husband and I DO have the funds to pay (then again, we don't have any kids) and still I am finding this really a show of extreme extravagance.

Sharleen said...

Seems like Katie is instilling her fear in her kids-such as the fear of snorkeling. I think she is just afraid of getting her hair and makeup wet.
At least the others enjoyed it.

Anonymous said...

This show is such a crock. I hate seeing how many people gush over this family, completely ignoring the fact that they DEFINITELY aren't ~just getting by~ as they would have you believe.

Every nanny/paid help is referred to as a "family friend". They spent a whole summer in North Carolina. They spent one week in San Diego to "get used to the time change". And now this trip to Hawaii. Every time Kate delivers one of her empty covers for why they live so extravagantly, I feel as if I am one of her children who just asked where babies come from.

Also, the new promo TLC has for Jon and Kate makes me absolutely sick.

Anonymous said...

I have never seen Kate kiss her kids...and it didnt really get to me until the one little girl (horrible with their names) started swimming on her own. I dont have kids (and do not want them)...but I would have kissed that little girl all over her face for learning to swim!

...also, totally random but...Kate was standing, pouting on the boat...and I couldnt help but think that she will look like the crazy McCain rally lady some day soon...it was the way she was standing and the way her hair was

Anonymous said...

In the preview for next week, who could the people in the chairs be? Did they have to pay people to be extras?

AnnaK said...

I have a 2.5 year old and she doesn't use sippy cups or bibs. She hasn't used either in a few months. I think she would be insulted if I put her in a high chair.

I feel bad for those kids, still being treated like toddlers, when they are young children.

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed the show. The kids had a blast. Yes, even Mady had some fun. Maybe dancing lessons would be a good outlet for her.

ThreeFarmers said...

The show should be renamed "Lifestyles of the Bitch and Shameless". The only thing missing is Robin Leach.

Anonymous said...

Again!! Kate sits on her Bleep! and Jon and Jenny do all the work.

Anonymous said...

DID you hear Jon say he needed sizes 2-3 or 4 in the shirts?? THE boys must be TINY if they are still wearing size 2 or 3 or Jon has no idea what size they wear??

Anonymous said...

At the luau for all the resort guests, K & J and gang got a front row seat for the show. There were dozens and dozens of tables full of paying guests who would have loved that prime spot. Again, theses kids will be in for such a shock someday (soon) when they will be treated liked "regular" people.
Plus, did they ever mention if Jenny got her own room for this leg of the trip? She couldn't look more bored if she tried.

Anonymous said...

DID you hear Jon say he needed sizes 2-3 or 4 in the shirts?? THE boys must be TINY if they are still wearing size 2 or 3 or Jon has no idea what size they wear??
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I don't think he had a clue to their size! They are not a 2 or even a 3...clueless, just clueless

Anonymous said...

Well, Jon and Kate have already put out the floater that they want to go back to Hawaii. Maybe a different resort could pick up the tab next time? And nice to know that the hammock on the boat was better than any massage Kate has ever had. How many middle class moms have actually felt like they could splurge on a massage? Of course, Kate isn't middle class. She is wayyy above that now. And her behavior on the boat mirrored some of Mady's pouty behavior. Kate definitely looked all p.o'd when they first got on the boat. My gosh, those boat people provided breakfast and lunch and numerous personal helpers for the kids and Kate still copped an attitude. She is unforgivable.

Anonymous said...

I only watched just a few minutes of the show, the first 4 minutes, the middle part where Jon was looking for the boys shirts(that was my "idiot" comment from earlier, and also the end. Did Kate seriously say she told Jon to tell the Captian to drive around the boat for another 2 hours? Did she honestly say that? I dont have tivo, but if that is what she said, this woman is so off and beyond what is normal anymore. Does she need to get her prescription checked again Dr.?Does she not have any clue how ridiculous she is when they are at churches begging for money for thier kids and now they have been doing nothing but vacationing for the past 4 months? Where to next TLC, they've just about covered any place of interest in the US, are you going to start sending them overseas now too?!!
TLC please do a Chirstmas special of this family donating their time, money, food and gifts to families of need. Maybe even the Gosselins can sponsor a trip for a TRULY NEEDY family. Thrill me TLC, I dare you.

Anonymous said...

When Jon and Kate were being served their gluttonous portions at the hutted restaurant---I didn't hear one thank you to the servers. They plopped Jon's ginormous lobster platter down in front of his fat face and no thank you. None from Kate either. No wonder the kids never say thank you either. They never hear it come out of their parents' mouths.

NewMom08 said...

Ok, I am officially done now.
A 1.5 million dollar home and they are "treated" to a grand vacation in Hawaii? My husband and I went to Hawaii two years ago, saved and saved for the trip...gave up things and scrimped for a year or more...we don't have a million plus dollar home and managed. The greedy Gosselins could have afforded this without doing so. This makes me absolutely sick, as families all over this country struggle to pay their bills and keep homes heated; that they just take and take, all for the sake of the "business." I hope the IRS and their kids catch up with them someday.
Anyone have the email address for the hotel? I will be emailing them as soon as I get my hands on it.
Truly truly sickening.
To the PP who commented about the shirts for the kids, notice Jon said that he "saw some at the resort." Um, you betcha....those he could get for FREE. That's the key in all things KON.

Anonymous said...

I dont know, for me this was the closest Ive seen them as a family. I thought it was good that Kate finally faced her fear and went in the water and then encouraged Maddy to get in too because she didnt want her to miss it.

As for the high-chairs, they may be 4, but they seem to be tiny. My oldest has always been very small for her age and sometimes putting her in a high chair when she was that old was more comfortable for her than sitting on her knees (and safer then putting a booster on those fold up chairs the tups were sitting on!).

I think its pretty clear by now that they get a LOT of handouts and do a LOT of things "regular" people wouldnt get to do, and I dont really think, as far as the show goes, that they are trying to hide it. Yes, she does ads for K-Mart and layway, but I think the point is that at one point in her life they were in need and were just getting by and this is a tool for others to use. Celebrities do this kind of stuff all the time, its business.

tallulah said...

Is Jon still working out? If so, he needs a refund. He is looking like one of the porky luau gentlemen. And when did Kate's arms get so beefy??

Why on earth did they hire Jenny as a nanny? She doesn't seem to have a nuturing bone in her body, never seems to have any joy in her when she does her job. I really think they had to hire someone whom the kids wouldn't adore TOO much (can't upstage Mommy Dearest!) and who wouldn't ever be inclined to challenge Kate. That seems to be all Jenny's accomplishing.

Anonymous said...

ThreeFarmers said...
The show should be renamed "Lifestyles of the Bitch and Shameless". The only thing missing is Robin Leach.
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I love it!!!

Thaise said...

"What kind of idiots would travel to Hawaii for their own wedding and not already have their 3 sons shirts picked out?"
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"Look at the way Kate reacted to Leah putting her face in the water and swimming compared to the way she reacted to Collin that other time"
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They made it clear in previous episodes that Jon and the boys would get their outfits in Hawaii because if they were going to buy typical 'flowered' Hawaii shirts in Philly, why not wait and get the real stuff in Hawaii??

And about the her reaction to Colin and Leah, I actually saw her reaction to Colin's situation appropriate, if you consider that what she did was encourage him to improve his skills and not settle for so little. And come on, Leah is actually swimming, Kate didn't need to push her to improve because she already achieve as much as she can for a four-year-old.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for all the updates from those 3 hours ahead of me. I would love to see the beauty of Hawaii (which I am lucky to have seen firsthand albeit never at the Grand Wialea) but I honestly do not think I can stomach it. With the economy the way it is for MOST of us middle class, working families, the timing could not be worse for so much blatent showing off - totally inappropriate!!! What are these kids learning? The good things in life are free!

Anonymous said...

DID you hear Jon say he needed sizes 2-3 or 4 in the shirts?? THE boys must be TINY if they are still wearing size 2 or 3 or Jon has no idea what size they wear??
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I don't think he had a clue to their size! They are not a 2 or even a 3...clueless, just clueless
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I agree with everyone on this sounds clueless but didn't we all think that Jon gets all the kids dressed everyday.

Anonymous said...

Free Trips to Hawaii, Grande Suite's, Lies, Lobster, Luaus, Lavish Dinners,Gift Baskets, Catered private Boat Trips, Snorkeling, Private Hula Lessons...

It sure is ( A Beautiful Life!!!!!)for KON...

Anonymous said...

Did anyone catch Mady telling the guy that she did not want to use the snorkel gear if someone else had their mouth on it. It was when Jon took the two girls to the beach.
I think it is time for this show to end once and for all. I am so tired of seeing this level of greed. It is unbelievable. Everything for free.

momforthekids said...

Jon and Kate are idiots! They keep saying that they are getting remarried or married again. You get remarried or married again when you have been divorced. Kate saying "we will be together forever". She lives in a fantasy world. She is trying to convince the kids that her and Jon will be together forever. The kids realize that friends and family won't be with them forever. Kate plays head games. People get divorced, it's a fact of life.

The funniest thing was when Jon said that he was going to throw Kate overboard and drag her behind!
Wait till Kate hears that he said that. I'm sure he'll be in timeout!

Anonymous said...

I think he said two 3's, as in two shirts size 3 and a 4 ( I think Colin is bigger) But I am sure he didnt get them in the shops because he forgot his wallet

Anonymous said...

Jon said that they were also visiting his family while they were there...Getting off the plane Kate also said she was looking forward to seeing them.
I thought it was pretty bold of Kate to ask Jon to ask the captain if he could drive the boat for 2 more hours...Miss Entiled gets what she wants.
Jenny was in charge of the juice cups, Kate said so during the Luau.
I was glad to see that other children were asked to go up on stage and dance and not let it be the Gosselin chirldren only.
I couldn't beleive it when Jon said Mady had playmates to play with on the beach while he and Cara were swimming/snorkling. Those "playmates" appeared to be much older than Mady. And all of a sudden it is ok for one of the Gosselins to socialize with other children.....give me a break!!! Alot of damage control.

Ana said...

Yes, Kate did say she asked him to drive around for 2 more FREE hours of looking of the trampoline thing on the boat. What else would you expect from her?
And I noticed the sick look on her face that Kate made when the daughter asked if they could take the coconut home. I mean it was free, let her take it home, and one day when she is tired of it she will throw it away. Kate seemed disgusted by the thought. It is much better than the darned pine cones she saved and then packed away in a box.
I remember collecting rocks from a river when I was little. My mom didnt care and I kept those things until I moved out of her house as an adult. Glad she let me collect frivolous things like that.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice too how when they first got to their "suite of rooms" or whatever fabulous accomodations the resort had "given them", they had these very generous gift baskets for each of the kids!! I would have been gushing over those and saying thank you! Kate just kind of glanced at them. She just seems to expect things and doesn't express any gratitude.Maybe they oculd have even donated those gift baskets to some deserving children? Sure, she said a couple of times that the resort was accomodating or whatever, but to me it didn't seem really genuine. It was more like--they better be accomodating because they will be featured on tv because of us.

Sera said...

About the shirt sizes, Jon said he needed two size 3 shirts (Joel, Aaden) and one size 4 shirt (Collin) "two threes and a four."

The kids were cute in this ep, but it troubled me that Joel was pretending his palm frond was a boom mic.

Anonymous said...

I am so tired of watching this
ungrateful family. Even their kids cop an attitude for people who are going out of their way to accomodate them. The kids are not even enjoyable to watch anymore they are starting to get attitudes like their parents.

Laura Linger said...

I will confess: I have vacationed in Hawaii four times in my life. I have been to Kauai twice (my honeymoon and my second honeymoon ten years later), Maui once, and we were on Big Island in August this year for a week.

I've never stayed at one of the fancy schmancy resorts. Those aren't our style, anyway. We go online and shop around and have always wound up renting someone's timeshare for the week. This is terrific because we have a full kitchen and laundry facilities, kind of like a little apartment. It saves a ton of money to be able to make your own meals in the kitchen, and it saves a bunch on packing that you can wash and dry your clothes there.

THIS IS NOT JEALOUSY TALKING: I would not want to experience any of the Hawaiian islands the way the Greedy Greedy Gosselins did. Did they have any interaction with the Hawaiian people, other than those in the resort paid to cater to their every whim? To my husband and me, the best part of every trip to Hawaii is the wonderful people we meet, the spirit of Aloha we both give and get! It's in the grocery stores, the little bakeries and sub shops, on the public beaches and on the streets! It just seems to me, with four trips under my belt and speaking from that experience, that you are not getting the full feeling of Aloha in a sterile environment like a resort, where you never leave and venture out on your own.

I am sure that many do not agree with me. I just know that staying in one place, no matter how plentiful the freebies and how VIP the treatment, would not be my bag and it wouldn't be my husband's, either. Beautiful Hawaii is so much more than the landscape and the lobster dinners (and why did they eat lobster? 'cause it's the most expensive? what about the delicious native fish that would have been caught that very morning?). Hawaii is about the experience, the love for your fellow man. I don't think you can get that in a sterile resort, not really.

Aloha, everyone!

Anonymous said...

I didn't watch tonight's episode. They are no longer the average family. They've lost their whole appeal....and me as a fan.

Anonymous said...

Of course Kate can issue her order for the boat captain to drive around for 2 additional hours. She won't be paying for it. It will be billed to TLC or TLC will talk the boat company into donating the time in return for the publicity. Just like any vacationing family could do the same thing! How much would that little excursion, with breakfast and lunch provided, cost the average family???

Christine said...

Honestly this show makes me sad. That is all I wanted to say.

Anonymous said...

I am so sick of the lil upbeat jingle that TLC shows every other commercial!! ..so up beat and happy, happy, happy. UGH!!!!!!!!!
What a crock!

Angie said...

Um...I really think that Jon & Kate will be together forever...for the simple reason that neither of them could find anyone else to put up with their shenanigans. They totally deserve each other.

I love the show, find it totally entertaining, everything from the hollering to the self-indulgence, because it's all so "out there" I'll never experience any of it.

Anonymous said...

So with the remarriage--oh, I mean vow renewal--LOL--do you think Kate will get some big diamond? Surely Jon and TLC could find some jewelry store that could hand over a free ring in return for some publicity? Everything else appears to have been free including the wedding clothes for everyone.

Anonymous said...

Actually, Jon said he needed 2 size 3 shirts & 1 size 4(I'm guessing Collin is a size bigger). The tups are on the small side so this seems accurate to me. Besides, don't ya think Kate gave him very specific instructions before sending Jon off on the hunt for shirts? :)

Re: the highchairs-I work in a restaurant & many people request those same highchair/booster seats for their 3 & 4 years all the time. It's just easier & I imagine they take up much less room around the table than 6 more full size chairs.

Anonymous said...

Just a thought, but maybe the "two hour" boat tour request by Kate was said wistfully and not seriously. Who wouldn't want to have an extra two hours touring around that gorgeous area?

Anonymous said...

Boring! This show is like being stuck watching someone's else's vacation movies. Well, I guess that's what this show has turned into to, come to think of it. At least you can turn the channel and get away from it when you're in your own home. Too bad it's not as easy to get away from the sickening commercials for the show.

Sue said...

I wonder when these kids are going to learn some manners. I don't think they are too young to say "please" and "thank you."

Sharla said...

We have a case of monkey see, monkey do. Parents have little to no manners, the kids will follow.

Anonymous said...

I'm mad at myself that I watched it, but I did. Here's my 2c:

1) How many times can Kate mention how ACCOMODATING everyone was to them ?

2)The suite they had was in the Napua Tower which is WAY more $ than the standard rooms(where my family stayed). Since the standard rooms are about $700 night, I'd venture to guess that their suite cost at least $2000 a night. Those personalized animal baskets for the kids and the private cookie decorating class with the executive chef and pasty chef of the hotel ain't cheap.

3)The Huhumhumu restaurant is the resort's most expensive - did you all notice that it was empty save for the Gosselin family?

4)The hula lesson was great to watch because Mady smiled the whole time. I couldn't help but notice that Kate hula'd from her chair. What a dip.

5) I've noticed this before, but Jon is very rude to anybody who isn't "management". I thought he was very rude to the sales associate at the store that was holding Jon's wedding shirt. He was nice to the woman who looked like the manager, and then again was rude to the salesgirl showing him the boys' shirts. I've seen this in many other episodes, but have never commented. He has such a chip on his shoulder it's pathetic.

6) More Damage Control : this was the first episode where Kate was not gushing all over Hannah. She was more focused on Leah and Alexis, which has never been the case

7) No bibs at the luau, hooray! I saw the high chairs, but IIRC, at the doctor's appt, the tups were still pretty small....

8) Ok, I have to say one nice thing: it was great that Kate overcame her fear of the water and enjoyed swimming in the ocean. She actually set a great example for Mady.

Another extravagant, over-the-top vacation for the Gosselins, ho hum.

I hope the GW is flooded with emails !!!!

Anonymous said...

My daughter lived in Park City Utah and worked at a swanky spa. During the Sundance Film Festival all kinds of stars came in for free services such as massages, clothes, jewelery, makeup, etc. The sponsors give freebee's purely for the advertisement of having "stars" using their products. The same is available for Jon and Kate and the kids. I agree that they seem to take it to the "limit" but wouldn't you want your kids to have every opportunity to experience everything they have? The show doesn't seem to be about the kids...it's all about Kate...and that is TLC's fault. I do feel incredibly sorry for Maddy. That child is crying out for something and it seems Kate is too busy dealing with everything else to stop, slow down, and help her daughter who is clearly not a very happy little girl. At first I thought she was just a brat, but as time goes on I see that she is in need for something her parents are not giving her. When the kids are grown and watch their life on tape they are surely going
to have some issues with the way they were raised and treated. I'd love to see a "Charity FROM the Gosselins" show...taking the kids to a local nursing home, donating clothing and toys to underprivilidged kids, etc...it sure would make me feel better about Kate and Jon.

Sue said...

Sharla, That is my point. I whole heartedly agree with you.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see the ad for "Twins Twins and Sextuplets"? It was in a commercial with Jon and Kate and the people from Little People Big World.

New Show?

Anonymous said...

I am so glad to have found this blog! I wondered if others were disappointed/annoyed with how this show has turned into a joke. I really enjoyed the earlier shows that chronicled the day to day family activities. That to me was "reality" tv as I could relate to the fun and the frustrations of parenting. I know many don't care for the bickering, but that to me is real and understandable. But now? Give me a break. The show is one long infomercial where they are either subtly pushing a product or jetting off to an exoctic locale. The focus is not on family and getting through a typical day. This Hawaiian trip did it for me. A bit over the top to put it mildly. I stopped watching when the lobsters where marched out. Now it's all about them being "invited" somewhere. Hey, they are cashing in, more power to them. But to see the show morph from a sweet, family show to LifeStyle of the Rich & Famous...No thanks.

Mom. said...

"And I noticed the sick look on her face that Kate made when the daughter asked if they could take the coconut home. I mean it was free, let her take it home, and one day when she is tired of it she will throw it away. Kate seemed disgusted by the thought.?"
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I don't think Kate's 'sick look' was due to her being annoyed as much a it was to her thinking that the coconut could turn into yet another thing that she would end up having to carry around (which I'm sure happens to every mom). I have seen that look on my mom's face many times (lol), as well as the look her and Jon exchanged right after - I've seen my parents exchanging those too. Every kid does that and every parent gets annoyed at some point!!

And from what I could see, it seemed like even though they didn't enjoy the idea very much, they were going to say yes, otherwise she would've said NO right away, like she usually does!

jccaidc said...

This family storyline (oh we have family in Hawaii!!) is just running way thin. Way, way thin. This is not life of a typical family-- it is truly a manufactured media schtick.

itsabeautifullifeshillers said...

Lordy bee!! but this made me sick, sick, sick. So scripted. So stupid. And Jon, get an f'n clue--- FROND, FROND, FROND--- not FRONG!!!!

Anonymous said...

"Did anyone see the ad for "Twins Twins and Sextuplets"? It was in a commercial with Jon and Kate and the people from Little People Big World.

New Show?"

I know there is a couple in New Jersey who had sextuplets in Sept. 2007 when they ALREADY had two sets of twins. I didn't see the commercial you are referring to, but that is probably the family.

Anonymous said...

Hawaii is about the experience, the love for your fellow man. I don't think you can get that in a sterile resort, not really.

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I've been to Maui twice (honeymoon, family vacation at the GW) and Kauai (sister's destination wedding). We did stay at the fancy schmancy resorts and loved every minute. We did not get VIP treatment of any kind, but service is very nice when you stay at nice resorts ( and, sorry, but I don't want to do laundry or cook when I'm on vacation!)

That being said, I don't think it's where you stay but HOW you vacation. Like you, we LOVED just walking on the beaches, going to little crafts stands, eating at local joints. Native islanders are so incredibly warm and welcoming, I seriously don't know how anybody can go there and not love it.

Just thought I'd give my perspective to your perspective.

queenie said...

"The show should be renamed "Lifestyles of the Bitch and Shameless". The only thing missing is Robin Leach."

BWAHAHAHA! They show just has to settle for regular leeches!

Anonymous said...

"Did anyone see the ad for "Twins Twins and Sextuplets"? It was in a commercial with Jon and Kate and the people from Little People Big World.

New Show?"

I know there is a couple in New Jersey who had sextuplets in Sept. 2007 when they ALREADY had two sets of twins. I didn't see the commercial you are referring to, but that is probably the family.

*Sorry, I meant Sept. 2004.

Anonymous said...

It is really sad what this show has turned into. I may as well be watching the Travel Channel, except their commentary is way better than J&K's, neither of whom are travel guide or spokesperson material, IMO. Apparently TLC feels differently....

Also sad that one of the little boys (can't remember which one) was pretending that his long stick was the boom for the mic. J&K thought that was hysterical. I just thought it was sad....

reallydarklab said...

I found this ep unbelievable in its ability to be completely inappropriate during a time when so many people and families with jobs and lives and families that love their children and don't expect a handout, are stuggling to make ends meet.... and Bitch and Shameless have hands, feet, legs and shiny white teeth out for the dole.

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
I think he said two 3's, as in two shirts size 3 and a 4 ( I think Colin is bigger) But I am sure he didnt get them in the shops because he forgot his wallet

11/10/2008 7:29 PM
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Of course he forgot his wallet - "room charge" are his two favorite words. This ensures that he isn't stuck paying for the shirts (heaven forbid) himself! Or should I say the boys don't get stuck paying for their own shirts.

Nila said...

I'm sorry but this was just insane! Did anyone notice that those two girls that were playing with Mady..the next day they were playing with the boys? I'm guessing some crew memebers kids..

Yes, Kate did ask Jon to ask the captian to sail around for an additonal two hours!! There will never be enough anything for this family. You can go to the ends of the earth for them and there will be Kate asking, "Really? You can't go just a little bit further?".

They mentioned family but I'm guessing we won't see them because they don't exist!!! I'm sure it was a PR ploy to bring the family element back in. Notice how Kate had mentioned the Hula song was the one Jon's mom sang to Cara and Mady when they were babies? I believe they are trying to "sahpe" up their image and drop small lines to make it seem like family is involved. I thought Kate was ridiculous on the boat. She didn't think it would even remotely interest her? Is it ALL about her!?!?! She is a mother for goodness sakes, get your damn hiney on the board and show your daughter it's alright. It's a wonder with all that bouncing none of those children get motion sickness.

I understand Mady was again being difficult, but why did they need to mention that? In recent episodes there was very little footage of either twin, so why mention she had to stay back, again? I think they think people want to see her punished because of her character so they are giving people what they think they want. News flash!!!! We don't want her punished, we want you to take the camera out of her face and hug her, hold her and talk to her!!!!!

Also, when your 4 year old child walks around with a pretend mike, you need to stop filming. I have a 5 year old nephew and he wouldn't have a clue what a "boom" is. How do they play with other children? don't both sides wonder what the heck is wrong with them? Poor Aaden would be where's your crew??!?!?!

They did sound like total celebs in this episode which would be fine if they weren't selling pics of their babies for college funds.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice how many times Kate said something made her cry? I think 3 times?

Jen said...

I stopped watching this show about four episodes ago but I just pop in here to get the lowdown and read what people are saying about it. Looks like I was right to stop watching....sounds boring and obnoxious as usual and I'm glad I no longer waste my time on it.

Life is too short to have to watch greedy, self-absorbed people who snipe at each other all day. Of course, I know it's entertaining for it's snark-factor and am glad some of you are still watching and reporting so that I have funny comments to read! :) But my personal opinion is that there is absolutely nothing to relate to about this family...and the funny thing is that the very nature of the show, that they had so many kids at once, made it unrelatable for me from the get-go. Now, it's just that much further from reality and relatability. There's nothing to really connect with...ok, you had a bunch of kids. Now the show is about the show. Big deal. Why should I, as a viewer, care that they have a tv show. I don't have one. No one I know has one. I don't plan on having one. Yet everything they do is fodder for the show, created by the show and done for the show as a result of the show...whew, that's exhausting to me even just to type!

So yeah...Hawaii? Big deal...hubby has been there with family a million times and I'll eventually go. But I want to see it the way I would really see it...not through the lens of greedy people who use their kids to get there. Yuck! TLC has lost a viewer for good!

Anonymous said...

You know "average" America would watch this show if we saw their day to day lives, extravagant freebies weren't shoved in our faces and Kate realized she was being a diva (like that would happen). Why oh why do they feel the need to go places no one else can afford EVERY episode yet still pretend they're an average American family? Do you think the Gosselin zombies (fans) will ever catch on? I used to love the show and my eyes are WIDE open now, so are alot of people. How long do you guys think this show actually has left in it? Hopefully not too many before these poor kids end up on celebrity rehab or something!!!

anin_lleb said...

Nice to mention that Mady had a meltdown and no one wanted her cookies. Way to go.

What I saw didn't make me want to go to Hawaii-- it made me want to boycott all the sponsors of the show and the Konmachine.

nomorejelloma!! said...

Some event-- but do you notice that they are showing that cheesy commercial for "the event" every commerical break?

Must be dang desperate.

Anonymous said...

The show should be renamed "Lifestyles of the Bitch and Shameless". The only thing missing is Robin Leach."

Jon is a leech. Does that count?

Anonymous said...

Wow, this show has changed. It used to about an ordinary FAMILY dealing with extraordinary circumstances. Now it seems to be all about BUSINESS. It used to be an interesting show. Now it's like watching a cross between a never-ending commercial and a narrated home video reel of someone else's endless vacations. Even die-hard fans must be growing weary of watching this drawn-out spectacle. Enough already!

tweedleydee said...

I would think the gravy train might be wearing thin with the economy the way it is... I would hope conferences and churches would economize..... and get rid of the shillers, er the Gosselins

Anonymous said...

How much do you want a bet Jon "remembered" the shirts at the resort when they did not offer to give him free shirts at the store?? Either that or he wanted to save face and had to go back and make sure what size they wore before he got them. Duh. Who dresses them anyway? Still, I see nothing wrong if they do wear a 2-3. My almost 4 year old can wear 2T clothes and a 4 and some 3's absolutely fall off her. These kids do look pretty petite.

porkrind said...

Kate puts Joan Crawford to shame.

Joan Crawford didn't like wire hangers. Kate doesn't like to hang anything on hangers.

Joan Crawford was often seen snipping roses in her garden at midnight. Kate is often seen directing her gardener at midnight.

Joan Crawford adopted children and cut them out of her estate. Kate bought her children and are making them help pay for her estate.

Joan Crawford was a streetwise actress with business smarts and attitude. Kate is a witless actress that makes business smart with her attitude.

Anonymous said...

I agree with everyone on this sounds clueless but didn't we all think that Jon gets all the kids dressed everyday.
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Yes, but with the free Gymboree clothes Kate picks up that he probably does not even have to look at. I'm sure she tells him exactly what to put on them every day.

Anonymous said...

What is really sad about this episode is the missed opportunity to show all that the family could do in Hawaii that is of reasonable cost, and in some cases practically free. Our family was fortunate enough to go to Hawaii in conjunction with my husband's business trip. The only way we could have ever afforded to go, since part of the air and part of the hotel were taken care of and we were really frugal with everything else.

We did not stay in a resort, we made sure we had a kitchen so we could shop at local markets and stores (and eat what the locals really eat), and took in as much of local culture as we could. We got to know the real Hawaii and it was a blissful relaxing experience. We never had to have "private" anything, we went where there were rarely any other people, much less crowds.

If you rent a Jeep you can drive to some of the most beautiful places, and you can snorkel and see gorgeous aquatic life (tons of green sea turtles) at the many public parks, not to mention Volcanoes National Park. Just think of all of the history and science those kids could be learning.

Instead they are getting a lesson in freeloading, and living High on the Hog 101 with likely no concept that very few people can afford this kind of trip. We're talking probably talking close to 50K when it's all said and done, just for the trip - no telling what the wedding will cost.

No jealousy here; I wouldn't trade my authentic Hawaiian trip for their lavish resort escapades under any circumstances. Sad.

Anonymous said...

I loved seeing Collin (I think) rattle off the names of those candies in the cookie place. Pretty good for a kid who only eats organic lollipops as a rare treat.

Anonymous said...

The part about the boat made me sick. She's on the couch admitting she had an attitude about it and that it didn't sound like anything that would remotely interest her or the kids. Those poor kids if she is speaking for them and feeding them those kinds of ideas. Who would NOT want to go out on a boat in the ocean in Hawaii? On a free trip no less..She acted like a pouty brat for most of it refusing to even come up on deck! She has no right to criticize Mady or the other kids when they act up. They learn it from her. She needed about 5 different kinds of life preservers when she did go out and Mady needed only the raft. What a joke she is. Another thing was Jon having to go on all the little special trips with the boys and without their mother..as usual. She still will not even pretend to want to out and have fun with the boys. They are like lepers to her I guess.

xsandlapper said...

Well what do you know - Educational blurb in tonight's show. Jon learned a new word. Playmates.(Or were they some of the crew's family)

Anonymous said...

I thought Jon's new word was fronk or frong. Shribbly.

Anonymous said...

I loved seeing Collin (I think) rattle off the names of those candies in the cookie place. Pretty good for a kid who only eats organic lollipops as a rare treat.

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Ha! Noticed it to............

Anonymous said...

Did anyone catch Mady telling the guy that she did not want to use the snorkel gear if someone else had their mouth on it. It was when Jon took the two girls to the beach.
I think it is time for this show to end once and for all. I am so tired of seeing this level of greed. It is unbelievable. Everything for free.

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I thought she sounded so spoiled and entitled. And didn't Jon say no big deal like don't worry, the show will just get us new, free stuff? And then she tried for like a second and gave up. As for the playmates, anyone else believe they were staged and were probably just the kids of crew members or something? No way would they feature "strangers" on the show much less let the kids mingle with them. They would have had to go through the trouble of getting permission for them to be shown on camera, etc anyway. Nope. I'm sure they were plants

Anonymous said...

I know people have been mentionning how many times Kate mentionned how "accommodating" the resort was etc etc etc.. To me it looked like everytime she said it she had such a smug look on her face...almost like she was trying not to laugh. God that woman bugs me.

didntiseeyoucrying said...

Those playmates HAD to be plants. They have never encouraged their kids to play with others on the playground. That is why they have a bodygard for the kiddies--- to shoo away any stray people with possible germs and intent to take money from them.

michelle said...

I know this comment will go against the grain here but I thought it was great to see the tups and twins have so much fun.

It was great to see Mady playing with two other girls, outside of the "family dynamics" at the ocean.

It was great seeing Kate actually playing with the kids in the water and not just sitting on the sidelines.

The kids truly are adorable.

Would have liked to see the kids meeting Jon's side of the family that live there. Where are they??

Anonymous said...

I totally agree that these so called "play-mates" were defenitly either family of the crew or had some conection to this whole dog and pony show. I mean come on, KON are notorious for not letting their children socialize with other kids...not to mention these "play mates" looked quite a lot older than their kids....

Anonymous said...

What was Kate whining about a waste of coconuts for the kid's drinks? What the heck was she sippin' her gin out of?! Oh yeah..... Kate is special-- all bow to Kate, the next best thing to the Virgin Mary....

Anonymous said...

Gluttony is the perfect word for this episode. I don't think there could have been any other people more gluttonous than what I just witnessed.

They seriously need to change the opening of the show, with Kate declaring, "Today I could very well lose my mind" and Jon saying, "It might be a crazy life". Why would she lose her mind when she is surrounded constantly by luxury and assistance, and how is being showered with freebies and treated as royalty a crazy life?"

Jon and Kate, you two are pathetic. You got this trip of a lifetime at the expense of your 8 year old daughter's mental health. As long as you get to gorge yourself with lobster and order boat captains to kiss your feet, who cares that Mady is falling to pieces. Please get the poor kid some help. This can't continue to be all about you two anymore. Enough is Enough! She was so incredibly starved for attention on that stage, it was just sad to see that performing for a crowd was the only way she knew how to get it.

And once...just once...I would love to see Jon and Kate be friendly with a complete stranger
( make small talk, wave, smile ) and not just engage with people who are there to give them something for free.

Anonymous said...

Notice how Kate had mentioned the Hula song was the one Jon's mom sang to Cara and Mady when they were babies?"

Oh, you mean when she started obnoxiously singing HOKEY lau? @@

chicago teacher said...

I found it pretty disappointing they didn't see more of the island-volcanoes immediately come to mind) - do they really need to spend that much time at a hotel pool -- you're in Hawaii people!

Why couldn't the boys make lei's and learn to hula? So gender biased and unfair!

I noticed an ad for Jon and Kate t-shirts. Just when I think their money grubbing has hit rock bottom...
http://shopping.discovery.com/product-74897.html

Otherwise it was a nice episode...little scary about the boom thing..but the kids seemed to enjoy the trip. I just wonder how many more of these "special" episodes they can pull off without being completely redundant

ThreeFarmers said...

Would have liked to see the kids meeting Jon's side of the family that live there. Where are they??

I'm guessing their rent-a-family contract didn't include camera time.

Anonymous said...

They seriously need to change the opening of the show, with Kate declaring, "Today I could very well lose my mind" and Jon saying, "It might be a crazy life". Why would she lose her mind when she is surrounded constantly by luxury and assistance, and how is being showered with freebies and treated as royalty a crazy life?"
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They could lose their minds because they are so freaking ecstatic at how they can just wish and pray for something out loud and it magically appears!

Anonymous said...

We are military and I've known people who were stationed for years in Hawaii. They loved it and made the most of it. There is so much more to it than just fancy resorts. It's too bad they didn't steer away from the over the top stuff (and by they I mean the show, since we know KON is unable to stay away from $$$) and just visit the places of natural beauty that everyone can see, not just the rich and/or coddled.

beachluvin said...

anonymous said...
Wow, this show has changed. It used to about an ordinary FAMILY dealing with extraordinary circumstances. Now it seems to be all about BUSINESS. It used to be an interesting show. Now it's like watching a cross between a never-ending commercial and a narrated home video reel of someone else's endless vacations. Even die-hard fans must be growing weary of watching this drawn-out spectacle. Enough already!
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And what was TLC's official response to the piece on CNN? They do the show so Kate can be a stay at home mom? When does she stay home? Why didn't include in their statement that Jon is a stay at home dad, too. When are these buffoons going to be exposed for real! I am so sick of sitting back and watching them con their fans, people who drop money in their love offerings basket, people who buy their book, send them gifts and pay to hear them "speak". Enough! TLC - cut it out! No one likes these two!

Anonymous said...

About the sizes for the little boys shirts. I thought Jon said "Two size 3 and a 4."

Anonymous said...

Kate's legs are looking pretty white in that water. I wonder if the indoor spa sessions are interfering with the tanning.

Anonymous said...

I found it pretty disappointing they didn't see more of the island-volcanoes immediately come to mind) - do they really need to spend that much time at a hotel pool -- you're in Hawaii people!

Why couldn't the boys make lei's and learn to hula? So gender biased and unfair!
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The boys were not allowed to have fun. They had to tag along with Jon on one of his grubbing for freebies trips and look for clothes to wear to their parents' wedding. Wow. What fun.

I said the same thing about the pool. You can go to the beach and you choose to hang out in crowded hotel pools instead? And I actually saw (gasp!) strangers behind them looking on! Of course, it was the only place Kate would even make an attempt to wade in since we all know how she hates those beaches.

Anonymous said...

My 10 year old asked what Aaden was talking about when he was mentioning booms and mics. This is just not normal that in his pretend play the camera crew is what first comes to mind.

Thaise said...

Would have liked to see the kids meeting Jon's side of the family that live there. Where are they??

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well there's another episode in Hawaii and in the promo I saw some people with Asian features at the vow renewal. They were there for a little over a week right? and today's episode didn't cover more than 3 days, so just because we didn't see them on camera doesn't mean they didn't get together at all, some people don't want to be filmed. We could still see them at the wedding I guess.

Nick said...

Is it just me or does anyone else find it slightly odd that Kate never seems to know what the kids did while they were with Jon until they are sitting in the interview chair and Jon mentions it to the camera?

For example, in this episode Joel using the palm frond as a boom mic or the boys playing in the flowers during the golfing episode.

It just seems like the sort of thing that parents would talk about at the end of the day, or at some point ever.

Yet, Kate always seems surprised. Am I the only one that finds that kind of sad or weird?

Anonymous said...

Oh ugh. Kate was saying how of course she objected to the kids decorating cookies and getting messy, but then the hotel was nice enough to send down chef jackets for them. Oh, we wouldn't want them to get their free swimsuits that they were wearing dirty! Of course icing would not wash out..Then she acted like a snot hovering around her kids watching them decorate. You know she did not want to be there but had to make sure strangers didn't make TOO much contact with her children and influence them to normal human culture!

Anonymous said...

One of the must do things in Maui is to take the drive to Hana. It is "amazing!" Kate would never go for that because the road is narrow and very windy. It rains a lot on the Hana Highway but there is nothing like being in an open air jeep and seeing the most spectacular views and waterfalls that Hawaii is really know for. Hawaii is not about 5 Star Luxury resorts, it's about ohana (something Kon knows nothing about) and the aloha spirit. I am proud to be the daughter of a native Hawaiian and it is an insult to see these jerks on our island. Jon and Kate are a disgrace to the Hawaiian people. Maui is about grilling Izeka short ribs and maui onions. It's about riding horses in Upcountry and swimming at Makena Beach. The kids are Hapa and they fit right in but Kate you stick out like a sore thumb with your your crappy attitude. I hope you dont come back anytime soon. Jon and the kids are welcome back anytime.

lyla said...

In regards to comments saying that the family should have tried to have authentic Hawaiian culture by leaving the resort, the reality is that many many people only go to resorts and stay there for the duration of the trip.

By not leaving the resort it doesn't mean they are unappreciative of Hawaiian culture.

True, the family could have ventured out and discovered the island they were staying on, but with a family size so big, it's very convenient to stay on the resort grounds.

But I don't think they should be judged because they chose to not leave the resort.

Anonymous said...

I noticed the foyer of the hotel was empty when the Great Gosselins made their entrance and the hut restaurant was also vacant when they were pigging out on ....uh everything. The production staff must ask people to clear the deck when and wherever the Royal Family arrives. Star treatment has become a way of life for these people. And I laughed out loud when Kate said they were 'determined' to stay together. Aw gee that's so romantic. Can't wait to hear their "remarry" vows. lol

beachluvin said...

thaise said...
Would have liked to see the kids meeting Jon's side of the family that live there. Where are they??

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well there's another episode in Hawaii and in the promo I saw some people with Asian features at the vow renewal. They were there for a little over a week right? and today's episode didn't cover more than 3 days, so just because we didn't see them on camera doesn't mean they didn't get together at all, some people don't want to be filmed. We could still see them at the wedding I guess.

11/10/2008 10:04 PM
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I bet a few of Jon's relatives that live in Hawaii went to the wedding and their rooms were probably comped or paid for by TLC to show that they actually have family that they talk to. The funny thing is Kate has never met them, but no worries as soon as that happens, they too will be kicked to the curb!
It's sad to see the kids playing with other kids on the beach, those kids they're playing with should be their many cousins. So sad.

Anonymous said...

6 minutes in and I want to scream. The greed, the arrogance, the looks of ungratefulness on the kids' faces (yea I know, they are tired of all this).

Jon, you look like a dope going down the waterslide.
Kate, seriously, hair and makeup done and untouched when swimming with Leah...

Anonymous said...

Wait a second, they can barely decorate cupcakes and not eat them either without Katie having a heart attack, but they can decorate the cookies...

Anonymous said...

Wow Mady was allowed to "make friends" ?!?!?!

Free the Gosselin Kids said...

These people are sickening. Talk about no pride. Kon with all their handouts all over the country, it's shameful. They are exploiting their children for a fancy new house, clothing, over the top trips, and whatever else you can think of. I think they are disgusting and I think that TLC is disgusting as well. Children can have wonderful memories of family time with picnics, an annual trip to the local amusement park, a modest vacation, camping, etc. All of these things can be done on a small budget. That's what my family did and I have great childhood memories. You know what I don't have? Memories of cameras following me, creepy fans lurking, random people in and out of my life, and whatever else comes about as a result of starring on a "reality" show (I use the term reality very lightly).

I'll say it again, those poor, poor children. As for the sippy cups...what the heck? And Kate making some comment about Jon at the luau "oh he always mentions how the food is good". So what Kate? You always say you're getting "remarried" or "married again" when you're not. Duh!

ThreeFarmers said...

Is it just me or does anyone else find it slightly odd that Kate never seems to know what the kids did while they were with Jon until they are sitting in the interview chair and Jon mentions it to the camera?

For example, in this episode Joel using the palm frond as a boom mic or the boys playing in the flowers during the golfing episode.

It just seems like the sort of thing that parents would talk about at the end of the day, or at some point ever.

Yet, Kate always seems surprised. Am I the only one that finds that kind of sad or weird?


It is weird and sad, but I think that Kate always has that conversation on the couch in front of the cameras to give the audience the impression that she is always way too busy with other things to bother about the day's minutia.

She doesn't get the fact that is makes her come off as dismissive and self-important.

What is going to happen is that the kids will grow up with all sorts of memories about the little things that they found interesting and fun and Kate won't have any memory of most of it, either because she missed it or she considered the little things too trite to commit to memory.

Anonymous said...

WTF? Jon said the kids had never had lobster before? Hellooooo NC 4th of July + how many other times before that.

Anonymous said...

This is the first episode that I have been home to watch, remembered it was on, and decided I'd rather finish Dancing with the Stars instead. I watched bits of the show during the commericals until I got so sick I gave up.

I think the favoritism of Leah swimmming and once again Mady's absense from the show did it for me.

If Mady is this unhppay and grumpy to be involved in the family JOB, then maybe the family should decide they all need to go into retirement. It's going to look really odd to call the show John and Kate Plus 8 when week after week one child is always absence for at least half of the show because she's being punished.

And then there was Cara being all possessive over 2 pans of cookies. As others have said, these kids are looking terribly greedy.

The only highlight of the show I saw was Aiden talking to the cookie lady.

But give them a few years. Those poor boys will be on the same train wreck of misery Mady and Cara are riding. I feel sorry for them all.

I hope that one day when they are old and alone that John and Kate will look at their 8 miserable kids and question whether those 10,000 vacations, invasion of their children's privacy, the freebies, and the attention was all worth it. Sadly, I don't think I'll be holding my breath for that moment though.

JenTru said...

Lifestyles of the Bitch and Shameless. That is absolutely priceless! Thanks Threefarmers. ;-)

AS for the new show they were advertising (Twins, Twins and Sextuplets) , it is the Hayes family of New Jersey who have GASP! two sets of twins and sextuplets and somehow manage without KON's plethora of freebies. It looks like it will be a regular show (it is scheduled the next two Mondays at least), replacing the Duggar's show in the Monday night lineup. Here is the TLC description, "The Hayes family, with 10 children, is not the normal family; their daily routine of six loads of laundry and needing a 15-passenger van as their family car, is anything but ordinary."

Good God, let's hope that they are just an ordinary family with lots of kids and it doesn't turn into a KON-xtravaganza. They have seemed pretty grounded in other specials.

I would love to watch Kate's face as she sees a family with two more kids than she has "survive" without all the free help. She wouldn't last 10 seconds. I hope the Hayes family makes Kon look like the gluttonous greedmongers they are.

Anonymous said...

The Gluttonous Gosselins strike again!

SmartyQ said...

11/10/2008 6:54 PM Anonymous said...
All the Luxury Places that offer the Gosselins FREE Stuff are not stupid, they are getting GREAT advertising for the cost of a room, meal, etc.

Can you imagine how expensive it would be for one of those resorts to do a commercial but they can offer a free room to TLC for KON and gets lots of attention and media coverage.

The Chef who made cookies iwth the kids, will now be FAMOUS!! I bet he still has the Macadamia Mady Cookes and Cara cookies on his menu. Cost him a few cookies and some of his time, for FAME.


I gently disagree. On the day this excess of greed was shown, DHL cut nearly 10,000 jobs, Circuit City sought bankruptcy protection and AIG got over $150 billion of our tax dollars. That, IMO, made Monday night's showing beyond tasteless.

The chef's now being famous (probably was before the Gs showed up) won't do him a dime's worth of good if no one comes to the hotel to eat and/or stay. In today's financial environment, I don't think many people will be thinking of going to expensive resorts any time soon.

Kate remembers Jon's mother singing, 'Hookie Lau' to the twins? It must have been before she (or they) moved so far away, and she got so busy.

I learned this song and the dance as a first-year Kansas Girl Scout a very long time ago. I wonder how it got to Kansas.

Anonymous said...

There has got to be a way

to teach those kids to STOP

SCREAMING.

I finally put my t.v. on closed caption. I felt like I'd lose my mind between Kate screaming "It's too loud" about the conch shell before and after every commercial break, and the ever increasing decibel level of the children's every utterance.

The little girls screaming "MADY" during the luau hula performance was the epitome of typical trailer trash tourist behavior.

KON's blase' attitude throughout this entire episode made me, once again, embarrassed to be a haole (white person) living in Hawaii.

Enuf already please!

Concerned said...

Wow. Was anyone else totally disturbed to see Joel use that palm frond as a boom mic?

What 4 year old even knows what a boom mic is? Oh yeah the Gosselin sextuplets who live in a house complete with studio lighting...that's who.

How can the parents not see how this show is affecting their kids?

Rosey in Washington said...

So, here are the things I noticed while watching this circus...oh...I meant show.

1-First of all, we ALL know that the Gosselins stayed at the Grand Wihlea (spelling?) for free because it was widely advertised. But, did anyone notice that obviously they were given FREE plane tickets from HAWAIIAN airlines due to the advertisement right before they got off the plane (there is a shot of a Hawaiian Airlines plane flying in the air)...and that they obviously got their rental car for free from Suzuki due to the "sponser" advertisement ("This show is brought to you by....") right before the show came back on after some commercials. Wow, I just couldnt believe it!

2-Obviously Kate cried ALOT in Hawaii...how many times did she say "And I teared up" or "And I started crying"....I counted 4 seperate times...3 times on the couch as commentary and once in the ocean water right before they got out.

3-I noticed that Kates hair and makeup was always perfect...that probably why she never went actual swimming anywhere...she couldn't be on camera without her perfect hair and makeup intact.

4-I was so proud of Leah for learing to swim...but it made me kind of sad when she said something along the lines of, "And I'm the only one?" or "Just me!"

5-It was so obvious that poor little Mady is starving for her mothers attention...even when Kate clapped a little bit after Madys hula lesson Mady ran up to her and hugged her with a big smile on her face...wow Kate get a freakin' hint!

6- I have been to Maui once...I stayed in my Moms timeshare. Anyway, I remember paying to go on a snorkeling trip that provided breakfast and lunch (I think it was like a 6 hour trip or something) and I remember that just for ME it cost like $130 or so. So, I cant imagine how much TLC paid to have the whole catermaran (spelling?)...plus the TWO EXTRA hours...if that wasn't just plain extravagent I don't know what is. I couldn't even imagine how much those 2 extra hours on a PRIVATE boar would have cost the average family. It was just insane to hear Kate admit that. Does she WANT to appear greedy and extravagent? Because she clearly does.

7-I wonder who the people in the chairs for their wedding are?? I mean seriously, they have NO family or friends that they still talk to that we know of...I can just see the sign "Be on Jon and Kate plus 8! Just sit in these chairs and be quite...oh and act like you're related to them!"

Anonymous said...

I have read all the comments.All of them are either true or very funny.I used to watch this show back when it was real.I found this blog a few weeks ago and have been checking back to see what else the Gosselins have gotten for free.I love how they justify it all by saying that they are advertising for these places. It's a twisted world we live in when millions of people can watch this every week knowing the damage being done to these children and call it entertainment. The only way to stop this is to stop tuning in.Let the Gosselins find out how crazy life with 2 sets of multiples really can be when both parents have to alternate work shifts and they don't get to do endorsements for food,clothing,and entertainment.

Anonymous said...

I just got through watching it (taped it). And I had to fast-forwarded through more than 3/4 of Queen Gosselin's HI Vacation Extravaganza because it all made me so sick. Kate's unmitigated gall is absolutely mind boggling. Also I don't know if anyone else mentioned this. But does anyone realize how expensive an authentic Hawaiian lei is? It's at least $20 (per person!!!) and that's just for one of those rinky dink small ones. My question: why is everyone rolling out the red carpet for Lady Gosselin and her lazy hubby like their movie stars or heads of state??? I just don't get it.

Anonymous said...

I have to admit it, I have not seen a single full episode this season. The gluttony of both Kate and Jon is so extreme to me I cannot bear witness to it. I am so tired of hearing on the news how all these people are losing their jobs and here we have Kate & Jon living in the land of freebies and entitlement. I think their dilema was one they were willing to take on when they went thru fertility treatments and ended up with these 6 children.

shameonTLC said...

The progression of greed, sense of entitlement, arrogance, indulgance, and gluttony witnessed in J & K and the Gosselin family in general from season one to present is beyond disgusting!

Anonymous said...

OH wow I just realized something. If you go to this website, it shows you the % ratings of J &K plus 8 each week. Last week, the show was down 2%. This week, it is down 9%. So I guess all of us that have stopped watching the show ARE making a difference! Let's keep it up :)

Anonymous said...

For a reality show, this doesn't have much reality left in it.

Special gift baskets for the kids (could be just the tups, for I think I saw only 6 baskets on that table), special accommodations for all, private lessons, Joel pretending a palm frond is a boom mike, Kate being unable to refer to a turtle's fin as anything other than a "flappy-thingy", etc.

I can get more reality by watching The Brady Bunch instead. Even their Hawaiian vacation is more believable.

Anonymous said...

Kate just makes me sad. I have kids the same ages as the twins and tups (as well as 2 others) so when the show first started, I enjoyed the similarities to our family and tried to imagine what it would be like to have more of my own kids.
I hate the way she babies the sextuplets with the highchairs, the sippies, the bibs, but doesn't "baby" them with love. My 4 year old is my last and I treasure every moment (okay maybe not EVERY moment) with him. I always wait till my kids let go to stop hugging them, I try to always stop what I am doing and look them in the eye when they need me, getting down to their level when needed. I know that time goes by too fast and soon my 4 year old won't want to climb in my lap and hang out and ask me to read and just want to snuggle. Kate has 8 kids (twice what our family has) and yet seems to have NONE of the experiences that really matter. They have been on many vacations this year-we have been on just a short camping trip-yet I know that the time we had together and the memories are priceless to me and my kids. I feel so sorry for Kate and Jon, trying to fill their lives with things and yet missing what is right in front of them.

Ravello said...

I really think KON Is angling for the Travel Channel. 3Farmers comment is brilliant about the new name of the show.
We finally made it to Maui when my kids were teens, we saved Marriott points for a hotel room on Wailea Beach. 4 of us in one room. We were thrilled to be there but it was totally on a budget. And we paid for everything out of our hard earned money.
We made a second trip to Kauai and rented a condo from a private owner and once again watched out money carefully. We were thrilled despite the lack of luxury accomodations.

IRS really needs to check out this family, I would guesstimate this Hawaii trip was 50 to 100 K in freebies. The suite of rooms would cost thousands, wedding packages are unbelievably expensive. Cannot fathom the cost of the private luxury snorkel boat.

The line that really killed me was Kate asking to ride around the boat for a couple more hours so they could nap.

formeravidshrewwatcher said...

I'm into my second week of Gosselin-Free Mondays; however, as you can see, I'm still digging the website! Its much easier to take these two bozos and their gluttony when simply reading the posts from all of you fine posters! Thanks for helping me wean myself from the mess that is "Lifestyles of the Bitch and Shameless!" That's the best! And thanks porkrind for the Joan Crawford comparison... great way to start a dreay day at work!

Anonymous said...

I have a few observations:
Over the course of several episodes, I have yet to see Kate interact in any meaningful way with Jenny. No small talk or chit chat.Their body language with each other even speaks volumes: Kate as high priestess and Jenny as lowly worker. I babysat for years and was a mother's helper with a family on vacation once and I was a part of things, not merely treated like an employee. I was watching their kids for goodness sake; of course they were kind and spoke with me, not merely AT me.

Give Kate a break with the "sippy" cups. These are not sippy cups, they are straw cups and they are very common with children even Mady and Cara's age. When you want to bring your own beverage to a store, restaurant, etc. straw cups are what many parent's bring.

The camera certainly loved Alexis in this episode. And deservedly so. She has a bright and magnetic personality and it seems ironic to me that the producers/camera crew seem to be more aware of this than her parents!

Kate comes off as very standoffish with others. I wonder if it is truly snobbishness or insecurity.

As many others posters have mentioned, the timing of this episode with the current state of the economy is ridiculous!

And finally, TLC is trying to brainwash us with the CONSTANT commercials for this show. Talk about overkill!

Casey said...

WTF? Jon said the kids had never had lobster before? Hellooooo NC 4th of July + how many other times before that.

They had crab in NC.
Also, everyone says it was Mady who was talking to those girls, but it was actually Cara.

I loved this episode. Everyone was very happy, including Mady(which was very nice to see).

Anonymous said...

BUT...was it organic lobster? LOL

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry but this was just insane! Did anyone notice that those two girls that were playing with Mady..the next day they were playing with the boys? I'm guessing some crew memebers kids..

I just went back and looked...they are completely different kids....

LucyD said...

I refuse to watch this show anymore! I was a travel agent for 15yrs, and the two resorts on THIS vacation, are top notch! Sorry, I can't afford even with 2 incomes, and 3 kids! Not reality T.V. I believe Kate summed it up best saying, "Our life is great, and our life is great because of our kids". Did they fill out W2's?

Anonymous said...

It makes me sick to see these bums feed their kids lobster while I wonder if I can afford to feed my kids fishsticks this week. TLC, get a clue, you're alienating viewers. This is NOT reality, nor is it entertainment.

Pollywog said...

But I don't think they should be judged because they chose to not leave the resort. I do since Jon apparently has relatives there they should have been visiting relatives and learning about Jon's family not soaking up freebies. The fact they never left the resort shows that it all was just an infomercial and nothing to do with going to visit the state Jon's mom comes from and her side of the family.
daughter...worked at a swanky spa. During the Sundance Film Festival all kinds of stars came in for free services such as massages, clothes, jewelery, makeup, etc. The sponsors give freebee's purely for the advertisement of having "stars" using their products. The same is available for Jon and Kate and the kids. I agree that they seem to take it to the "limit" but wouldn't you want your kids to have every opportunity to experience everything they have? The show doesn't seem to be about the kids...it's all about Kate...and that is TLC's fault.
And once again Kate and Jon are NOT celebs they have no talents and are earning these freebies off the back of their minor children. If it wasn't for the fact that they were lucky enough that they HOM were born alive and healthy they'd have no show. It stinks that no one cares about how this constant filming and dragging the children all over will effect them and they have evidence in Mady the effect is NOT good but they still carry on as heaven forbid they miss one single freebie.
So with the remarriage--oh, I mean vow renewal--LOL--do you think Kate will get some big diamond? If you look closely at photos you will see Kate has a fancy diamond full ring so if we see them picking it out next week we know that it was free too, I really don't think Jon would cough up 10s of thousands for a ring out of his own money so if no store coughed it up for a place in the show I'm sure they found a way for Figure 8 or TLC to pay for it.
They made it clear in previous episodes that Jon and the boys would get their outfits in Hawaii because if they were going to buy typical 'flowered' Hawaii shirts in Philly, why not wait and get the real stuff in Hawaii? The shirts in the resort are no more authentic then the ones at Kmart I'm sure they also state on the labels that they are made in Vietnam or some other country. It's just more flogging the resort and getting as many freebies as possible.
Didn't watch but I do find it interesting to read what nonsense they are broadcasting with the still claim of documentary and reality. Someone needs a dictionary at Figure 8 and TLC.

Anonymous said...

I have absolutely no doubt that the Hayes family will become the new "favorite" family.
Jon and Kate have desperately been trying to reform themselves with better (somewhat) manners, clipping out the "Helllloooooo" at the first part of the show, and she is trying to refrain from hitting him and talking to him like he is dirt. She is also restraining herself from carrying around Hannah during each episode. Too late, KON.
The public is sick of it and we are ready for the Hayes family! More kids and PROBABLY less sniping and hitting and stress.
So glad that we get a refreshing look at someone else.
Can you imagine how Kate feels about that family nudging her out of the way?
Also, that commercial for the family programs that they keep showing is unattractive and the close ups are frightening!

Anonymous said...

TLC is running the commercial promoting the "wedding" too much. As for the trip, I blame TLC for that one. They are trying to make the show interesting and I am sure they arrange for all of this...but the Gosselins are becoming spoiled brats (the parents that is). As for Jenny, did you notice how Kate sits and Jon and Jenny serve the kids, put on life preservers, get them dressed? Kate's the queen and Jenny assists Jon. Good deal. No wonder why Jenny looks miserable.

Anonymous said...

The Hotel was the Grand Wailea in Maui. A NORMAL size room is 600$ per night, they got a suite. EVERYTHING there is OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE.

To have a wedding there is 10,000$ and that is only to have the chapel for 2 hours.

I stayed at the Grand Wailea, and everything down to your coke is outrageously expensive...

An unbelievable hotel though

Anonymous said...

Just an observation here, but did anyone else notice that during the luau, the camera was scanning their table from right to left. When the camera got to Kate, instead of continuing to glide toward the stage, the camera man paused and went back toward her for a split second, focusing on her stuffing her face. The rest of the family, including the 6 four year olds, were completely fixated on the fire twirling and the dancing and the drums. The boys so much so that they weren't even aware food was in front of them. Yet, there was Kate, literally shoveling it in like it was the last supper. Please, if you guys have Tivo, go back to the grand luau scene and re-watch it and tell me if you saw this too.

I noticed, a few times in different episodes, that the producers seem to be hiding less and less for these two con artists. How about the clip of them in the interview chair where Jon says something about taking the boys on a treasure hunt and Kate tries to correct him by calling it a scavenger hunt. He abruptly stopped, mid sentecne, and corrected her right back by pointing out the difference. She quickly changed her tune, trying to sound demure. But the camera lingered on her for just an extra second or two. I am starting to think they (the producers) are doing this on purpose.

And the Mady thing? They do seem to be putting a lot of spotlight on her crappy behavior. I am beginning to think they've come to the small realization that they can't cover up anymore for them. Maybe they are trying to shed more and more light on them? Just a thought.

Oh lol and I know this is a big post already, sorry. But, who gets an 18k *free* tummy tuck and wears THAT bathing suit (the boat). I also agree with all of the posters who commented on the costs of these 'family vacations' in this economy. It's blatant BS on TLC's part. I live 25 minutes away from KON, 4 hours away from the Jersey Shore, and didn't even go there this summer with my 5 kids because it was not economically sound to do for us.

Dear TLC:

If you want the sheeple to 'believe' in your fairy tale, at least TRY and make it realistic.

Had Enough said...

The wretched excess of J&K continues while today in my community another employer announces 250 job cuts effective Dec. 1st, just in time to make Christmas miserable.

I wonder how the vows will go next week?

Jon: "I, Jon, take you, Kate, to be my money-grubbing partner in crime. To have, and to hold out your hand for freebies anywhere we can get them. I promise to be true to your twisted way of thinking, in good times and the continual BETTER times, in sickness (with our kids ill while we get my hairplugs), and in health, until we are parted by....a loss of our kids' income."

Moons in Leo said...

Oh, I am so glad I don't watch this 'show,' and what a display it is.

Can't wait for the recap!

Oh, BTW, every time someone recounted Kate's appeal to the boat captain for another 2 hours, why did I keep thinking of "Gilligan's Island?" A three hour tour ...

Anonymous said...

I wonder how long their contract is for. I wonder if it was recently extended. It seems that everything has been kicked into high gear. Mansion, more trips, bigger, better everything. So maybe they can't just go away. In the beginning, Kate somehow managed all of the kids while Jon worked. I admired her organizational skills. It couldn't be any different now, They have nothing to offer. This show could have taken a totally different direction and be entertaining. But I think that would have required them remaining an average family. Hopefully the other families on TLC will take note and remain true.

Anonymous said...

Okay, I'm officially jealous and envious. Not of them, but of thier new grand FREE lifestyle. My son would love a vacation to Hawaii or the next county for that matter, but mom is worried about paying the next mortgage payment. It's just too much to watch anymore.

Anonymous said...

They "go out of their way" to "accomodate them" by inviting them to bake and decorate cookies in the kitchen and all Kate is worried about are the kids getting their shirts dirty. Good thing they supplied little chef jackets. And if they hadn't????? Would she have turned down that generous offer?

Anonymous said...

TLC's reply to CNN's comment, when they said this show allots for Kate to be a stay at home mom, is OMG already! Not to applaud the Duggar's but they have 17 chldren, one on the way, and the mom stay's at home. She's always stayed at home. They managed.

Seriously, can anyone out there please provide information on who, where, and how to start filing complaints? There has got to be something that can can be done.

Anonymous said...

Where's Waldo has been replaced by Where's Mady?

pinkdiamond611 said...

Just my take on this entire extravaganza. . .
Jon was raised with fancy vacations, sports, etc. cause his father could afford it. Typical spoiled rich kid. He misses those opportunities. The show gives hime the opportunity to do what he misses. I am sure it was his idea to book the catamaran. He evidently has snorkled several times in the past, yet, Kate has never even swam in the ocean. So, when the opportunity to go to Hawaii, came up, he ran with the idea. Mady and Cara enjoyed their time alone with Daddy. And, I do believe the boys enjoyed their nature walk and time at the beach with Daddy more than making leis. I wouldn't say that Jon is lazy, cause he seems to work his behind off taking care of the kids. Kate is the lazy one, she is always just sitting. Also, I think Mady is a reflection on Kate. Kate is a germ-freak and so is Mady. Mady was afraid of getting people's germs from the snorkle equipment. Lots of people have the same thoughts when snorkling, that is why they bring their own. Mady could have been more successful in her first snorkeling attempt if they would have gone in the a.m. when the water was calm. Props for her for at least trying. She is only eight years old. And, finally, good for Kate for realizing that her fears are holding her back. And she realized that she is affecting Mady's behavior.

T-bag said...

As sad as it is, they will never be "regular people" again. When you talk about the days when they will suddenly be regular- those days will never come. They're household names now, even the surviving Dionne quints still get recognized.

Anonymous said...

So should we be glad they didn't show Mady's meltdown when making the cookies but they showed Cara being not so nice? Either show it and discuss how you handled it or don't mention it at all. I doubt anyone would have even noticed her not being there.

byebyegosselins said...

I only watched bits and peices up to the 2nd commercial. DONE, SICK of it. I asked my husband to turn back when his show was on commercials and he said " WHY?? Theese people make me sick, and I dont understand how he can live with that women, Its not even about the kids anymore, WHY do we give them raitings!" Yep that did it.. men are so simple, yet to the point. We started watching the show when it was a "day in the life" as Kate and I have the same (PCOS) cause of infertility, and I felt like i had something in common with her. No one has anything in common with them. The "its a beautiful life commercial" made me want to Gag. Really, their are treating it as if "luke and Laura" are re-newing their vows, ummm the show is supposed to be about 2 "average" parents raising their children, not the "jon and kate gimme more exclusive" while free help raises their children. Hmmm Im done.. cant even read the blog, theese people make me sick.. AMERICA... stop paying attention and watch something else....

Anonymous said...

Was it me or were there ALOT more commercial breaks???

Anonymous said...

What got me was when Kate would say "They were so happy we were there" or "They were so happy to see us"...Puleeeze...They are happy to have the publicity not to see your ignorant Ace!

Anonymous said...

WTF? Jon said the kids had never had lobster before? Hellooooo NC 4th of July + how many other times before that.

That was crab.

Anonymous said...

Perfect magic show name - The Disappearing Freebies - performed by the Great Greedy Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

WTF? Jon said the kids had never had lobster before? Hellooooo NC 4th of July + how many other times before that.

I think they had crab in North Carolina - but I agree that they've had lobster before.

Joel oohhed "Lobster" when he it was brought to the table, kind of unlikely if he's never eaten it.

cincymom said...

I just paused the TV when Kate walked into that gorgeous sweet and her first comment was "I've got to put this bag down," or whatever.

I would have been, like, how blessed are we for this opportunity? How gorgeous is this room! Kids come here! Look at these bags for you! Isn't this wonderful--you are so lucky that someone spent a lot of time thinking of how to welcome you!

And then my couch interview comment would have been as enthusiastic, instead of monotonously summarizing "we arrived, blah, blah, blah..."

I said to my husband, (poor guy, wonders why I watch), "Look at these people! How entitled do they sound. People don't just GET trips like this everyday."

Get a Clue said...

The only way to stop this is to stop tuning in.Let the Gosselins find out how crazy life with 2 sets of multiples really can be when both parents have to alternate work shifts

For this and all the other comments (many unpublished) saying if you don't want it on, just stop watching, let me remind people that the average viewer doesn't affect the ratings. Only those who are Nielsen families or have reportable DVRs count. The rest of the country can watch all day and it does not matter to the ratings as no one knows.

Anonymous said...

Gosh, it must be tough - July at the NC beach, August in San Diego and Hawaii - it is great however, my kids would've been sick just eating out and sleeping nightly in strange beds & places. I'd also would feel it.
Haven't seen the show so when it the realllllly bigggggg event???
Haven't heard anything about the Hayes show - perhaps, they are
reality.
Thanks for the info.

Anonymous said...

Tried to watch Little People, Big World and that dang commercial must have aired 4 times. You know the teeth whitened cheezy smile, fake. Enough already, that dang song is going to drive people to drink TLC.
Also why is the used to be hateful Kate, hitting Kate, now always ready to cry, petting Jon like a poodle. Mood swings?, acting?, medication? heaven forbid I say damage control. Lights, camera, action psst Kate act like your crying we know its hard but try. I watched 5 minutes of this train wreck and stopped. Also just curious how much directing is needed to get Kates rump out of a chair. I can almost see her sitting down and saying Jooooon Im ready for my close-up. LOL Im rambling but some new titles could be "The Clampets go to Maui", "Bridzilla remarries" "How to win rich friends and piss off common people." "Hawaii on a dime, $35,000 for sponsers" Finally Kate never sits by the window on the plane, shes afraid the wind will mess up her hair. Sorry Im done.

potsysmom said...

" don't think he had a clue to their size! They are not a 2 or even a 3...clueless, just clueless"

I just caught up on the back to school episode. One of the boys was only 35 pounds, so maybe he'd be in a 3 (but I'd have bought a 4).

To defend Jon (though I hate to do so) my husband wouldn't have any clue what size our 3.5 year olds wear. He'd have to look at the tags in the clothes they were wearing.

Nichole said...

I don't watch this show anymore but the promos for this made me sick! And also made me laugh... The two of them gazing into eachother's eyes and fake smiling. Give me a break.

lifeoriley said...

I did not watch this episode, but I mentioned before in another post that this trip cost upwards of $30,000--and another comment estimated it cost around $50,000--if you add up everything: the SD stop, airfare, meals, hotels, activities, taxes and resort fees for 11 people (10 Gs + Jenny). The Grand Wailea is a very expensive resort. In Hawaii/Maui it is expensive to eat and drink (bottled water alone $$$). This trip was in no way affordable for a family of four from middle-class America. And--- this was only one of many trips that the G's have taken in the past two years (the Utah resort is expensive, and they stayed in a top-of-the line home at the resort). The Gosselins do not represent the typical American family--excluding their size--most people can not afford to live such a lifestyle.

c said...

Anonymous said...
OH wow I just realized something. If you go to this website, it shows you the % ratings of J &K plus 8 each week. Last week, the show was down 2%. This week, it is down 9%. So I guess all of us that have stopped watching the show ARE making a difference! Let's keep it up :)

11/11/2008 4:30 AM


Very cool - thanks for the info!

Anonymous said...

To the comment that Maddy's a snob because she didn't want a scuba mask someone else's mouth was on...I agree with her! I think that's disgusting as well. It's good to teach your child that, I would think. I want to puke when I see kids putting their mouths all over things in public. Not in today's world, my friend.

lorebee said...

I can't help but wonder how the resort in San Diego knew the Gosselins would be heading west to invite them. Or do you think KON called the resort and said "don't you think it would be nice if, on our way to Hawaii, we stopped in San Diego and mention your resort 2 dozen times in a 1 hour television show? And by the way - we assume you'll comp us for the luxury room and outings for 11 of us". They disgust me, but i continue to watch.

Anonymous said...

I guess since the kids were given personalized embroidered chef's shirts Kate could breathe a sigh of relief that her "free" Gymboree outfits would not get dirty.

As with many of you, I genuinley LOVED this show. The kids were so entertaining to watch, and Jon and Kate did have a sense of nomalcy about them. Now I find myself not even breaking a half grin while watching. I feel confident their 15 minutes will be over long before their contract runs out.

Do you think they invited Jon's family to join them at the resort?

Mari said...

Yep. I have this episode tivo'd, but decided (since I'm pregnant), I'd rather read all you guys' comments and laugh in agreement then to actually watch it and have my blood pressure rise out of anger and incredulity.
This show is a hazard to my health. LOL

fvr4mvp said...

I stopped watching this horrible show after the Thomas the Train episode. But I have to tune in here for the recaps because they are too funny to pass up.

This show is not reality anymore. Tell me what normal family, regardless of size lives like this?

My husband and I have two kids, the same ages as J&K. We make a decent living and go on outings and excursions too.

We have to wait in line, deal with the crowds, and SAVE MONEY for the next event.

I dont have a chef, maid, or nanny to help. We work different shifts to avoid day care costs. I rarely see my husband during the week. We catch up on the weekends.

I was married in 1999 just like J & K too. Our 10 year anniversary trip will probably be to Disney World with our kids. And it will be next year when it will actually be 10 years. And it wont be for free either.

I dont have a TV network picking up the tab and I am really, really happy about that.

This is NOT a reality show. It is a show about how a family who is given everything by a TV network lives. I really cannot relate to that and I just wont watch it anymore.

I can't stand how there isn't any gratefulness and how they think everything is expected. As the economy changes, people will too I think. Their days as the #1 rated show on TLC are numbered.

PS-Can someone tell them to stop running those irrating commercials too?? Sheesh!

Anonymous said...

They seriously need to change the opening of the show, with Kate declaring, "Today I could very well lose my mind" and Jon saying, "It might be a crazy life".

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Kate should say "Today I have lost my mind" and Jon should say, "I have a crazy wife."

NewMom08 said...

Well, I just emailed the Grand Wailea. I'll let you know if I get a response. I kept it nice, civil and impressed upon them the fact that the Gosselins could well afford to provide this trip themselves. It's the rest of us that can't....

Anonymous said...

The Gosselin kids eat lobster and I can't afford to feed my kids fish sticks.....TLC get a clue, this gluttony is obscene in light of the economy.

Anonymous said...

Oh and Kate, the dance the girls learned is not the "hokey" lua, as in the "hokey" pokey. But then again, you are far more suited to learning the hokey pokey with your state of class. Not only can you butcher the English language, but you also manage to butcher a traditional Hawaiian dance that many of us have had the opportunity to learn. *sigh* (apologizes to native Hawaiians)

Anonymous said...

lorabee--the promo department of TLC sets it up with the resort. Or, the resort contacted TLC. I hardly think KON arranged it and said that. However, the whole purpose of sponors is to mention (whether it's two times or twenty), the company's name. That's what the company pays for.

anonymous 7:10--yes, I think there were more commercials than normal. That's what the number one show does. They get the most sponsors.

One poster said there was a website that showed the ratings. What is that site? I didn't see the url?

kimber said...

In the promo for the "event" Jon looked as constipated as his kid and Kate looked like her face would crack if she tried to smile. Neither "smile" reached their eyes. Fake, fake, fake.

Anonymous said...

What's with Katie's face in their vow renewal commercial? When the camera cut to her, I thought at first that it wasn't Katie. Her skin didn't even look human. Either someone applied her makeup with a trowel or it's someone in a rubber mask.

Anonymous said...

I was just watching the rerun of them going to Utah. After they got off the plane and was walking in the airport, Kate says the next trip they will be going on is Hawaii, to get remarried. I'm surprised they didn't pick up on that and tell her for the beginning of this Hawaii show that's it's renewing our vows. Obviously they were begging for that Hawaii trip for quite awhile.

lyla said...

But I don't think they should be judged because they chose to not leave the resort. I do since Jon apparently has relatives there they should have been visiting relatives and learning about Jon's family not soaking up freebies. The fact they never left the resort shows that it all was just an infomercial and nothing to do with going to visit the state Jon's mom comes from and her side of the family.

How do you know they did not visit Jon's family when they were not being filmed?

The family was in Hawaii for a week and their time there is shown in 2 episodes. It is hardly enough time to depict everything they see and do. It is possible that they did see Jon's family but chose to not film it to keep it private.

Anonymous said...

"It is possible that they did see Jon's family but chose to not film it to keep it private."

When has anything in this family not been filmed and kept private?

Anonymous said...

DID you hear Jon say he needed sizes 2-3 or 4 in the shirts?? THE boys must be TINY if they are still wearing size 2 or 3 or Jon has no idea what size they wear??
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I don't think he had a clue to their size! They are not a 2 or even a 3...clueless, just clueless
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JON didn't say "2, 3, or 4"... he said "Two 3's & a 4". I would assume Collin is wearing a size 4, while Aaden & Joel wear 3's. Jon would know, he dresses them! And that sounds accurate when you take into account that they ARE smaller than your average 4 yr old.
Anyway, I agree that this is ridiculous...and it's sick that the world is supporting it. I was also sad for Joel when he was carrying around the frond as his "mic" .....normal kids would never pretend it was a microphone...maybe a sword or whip....but a mic? Poor child is clearly being filmed too much!!! TAKE A HINT Kon!!!

Ilovemykids said...

Here's the deal, as I see it.

The book sales are falling quickly, the family, and Kate alone, have appeared on all the shows that will book them, the only company that Kate could find to "shill" for is Kmart - a place in a million years she would never shop at. The show has become about one thing only - expensive trips for the Gosselin family, which in this economy is beyond repulsive to decent people. The Gosselins are on the down-hill side of their little money-making scam. While, I'm glad, I'm sad for the kids. They deserve better parents.

Anonymous said...

I have not watched the show in weeks and weeks. I just read about the episodes here on GWoP. I have no interest in KON and their ridiculous unrelateable circus performances. They make me ill and frankly, those kids are NOT at all interesting. However, they should NOT be exploited the way they are and KON and the show need to be stopped for that reason.

Anonymous said...

TMC said:
I cannot imagine how much the suite they stayed in cost. It was absolutely huge and very beautiful. Has anyone here researched the cost?


For the past two years, we have been saving and planning for a 10th wedding anniversary/40th birthdays celebratory trip to Maui, which we will take in June 2009. Friends recommended the Grand Wailea, so I had our travel agent research the costs for us. For two adults, one child in a standard room, the Grand Wailea would cost us approximately $6000 for 10 nights! That price does not include any meals or activities. It was way out of our budget, so we looked at some other properties and found another highly rated hotel up the island for half the price. This package also included an upgrade to a better view, breakfast daily and a rental car.
Kon’s “free” trip would have cost them $15,000+. Not your average splurge for a “struggling” family of 10 -- or of 3 (like us) for that matter!

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