Legos and Safaris- November 3

During a sponsored Hawaii trip, the Gosselins make a stopover in San Diego, California to visit Legoland and the San Diego Zoo. (60 minutes)

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Anonymous said...

So what will KON do to adjust to the time difference going home (which is MUCH harder). A 10-day layover in Palm Springs ?

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Forgot to add that I guess KON think it's much more important that the kids be "fresh" for the trip to Hawaii instead of "fresh" for school when they return.

Anonymous said...

IMO, The only difference between J&K and 'actual' celebrities is that they get and enjoy the free stuff in front of cameras. But everyone you see on tv is on the same situation, if not better (let's not forget its just TLC we're talking about, not NBC or FOX).

Absolutely disagree. While I will agree that celebrities are the recipients of endless amounts of freebies and swag, more often then not, the who , what, where, when , and why of a celebrity's status and lifestyle is not at the expense of or a result of exploiting their children. Unlike J & K, celebrities dont NEED the cameras to 'enjoy' their freebies, J & K NEED the cameras in order to continue the exploitation of their children and in turn reap the benefits of the freebies. The difference with respect to the 'camera' is the exploitation not the enjoyment factor.

Anonymous said...

Kate asking Jon at Legoland why he is standing there looking "clueless"...and her not knowing where Alexis was at the same time?
Priceless.

Anonymous said...

I wish TLC/Figure 8 and KON would sit down together or separately and watch the movie A Face In The Crowd with Andy Griffith & Patricia Neal..she discovers him and he becomes a big star; drunk on his own power. Then the tables turn.
That movie is a real eye opener.

Anonymous said...

What is with the singing? "Sing Mady sing" says Kate when she is sticking the vidcam in her face on the plane.
If this family had any talent besides scamming we'd have heard about it by now Katie Irene. Quit trying to be something you are not and never will be.
Looks like Jon is hoping for some free lipo for his "gobbler"..!!!!

Anonymous said...

And when they showed the slow motion, close-up grins they both had, you just know they cut the scene in after filming each of them looking at a pile of money. Nothing else makes these two smile like that
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OMG...too funny!!!

Anonymous said...

I haven't watched this show in forever but I do appreciate being able to still find out what scam Figure 8 and Kon are pulling each week. Now the 50 episodes a year makes sense. if they only did a few a year to show how the kids have grown they'd not be having to suck up to all these resorts and amusement parks to be able to "produce" a show and Katie gets to get more freebies by doing more episodes. More free product placement clothes to prance around in and resell for big bucks. More fancy hotels and spas. Poor kids continue to be the butt of their parents childish behavior so that it can carry over into their school life today, tomorrow and years into the future, yippie for those DVDs. Got to love America and their ho hum it's fine if they grow up messed up we've got more important things to worry about then children. Every state should have jumped on the wagon when NM made those rules for children in reality tv. I hate to hear the Hayes are allowing cameras in come in their home too. Is greed contagious?

Anonymous said...

Wait....I thought those children never watched t.v. or if they did, it was only their own show. Hmmm, they sure did seem to know who Nemo was and were quite excited about that. Kate is such a liar.
Well, Finding Nemo isn't a TV show. It's a movie, and Kate never said anything about movies. Besides, we know the kids watch movies because they have movie nights. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Finding Nemo was one of their weekly family movies.

Anonymous said...

Must be nice to fly all over first class. Kate made a point in saying they are small enough to curl up and sleep. I guess so, first class seats are big and comfortable. They have come a long way in a short time since flying coach to Utah!

Anon 2:25pm What a sad and familiar story of families with huge medical debt. They are grieving and have to worry about the up coming holidays. I would love to help, is there some way to get in touch with me?

Anonymous said...

Did I hear Jon say that they would be visiting members of his side of the family in Hawaii? If so, I'm dying to see this.

Anonymous said...

Ummm... they weren't in first class.

Anonymous said...

They were in the very back of the airplane - about as far from first class as they could be. At least that's where they were shown in the latest episode and the flight to Utah.

Anonymous said...

I'm a cynic about the back-of-the-airplane schitck. Jon and Kate have such "needs" that they can't possibly mingle with the public or be inconvienced, so they either fly first class (sit in the back for a few minutes of film) or have a plane to themselves. I don't for one minute think that they struggle like the rest of us who travel with children. Also, unlike the rest of us, the Gosselins have to have room for their TV crew and assorted helpers.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said... I wish TLC/Figure 8 and KON would sit down together or separately and watch the movie A Face In The Crowd with Andy Griffith & Patricia Neal..she discovers him and he becomes a big star; drunk on his own power. Then the tables turn.
That movie is a real eye opener.

I too watched 'A Face in the Crowd' when it was on TNT recently. Like you, my first reaction was 'Hellooooo, Kon.' Can you picture Kate on the balconey in the last scene?

Anonymous said...
I'm a cynic about the back-of-the-airplane schitck. Jon and Kate have such "needs" that they can't possibly mingle with the public or be inconvienced, so they either fly first class (sit in the back for a few minutes of film) or have a plane to themselves. I don't for one minute think that they struggle like the rest of us who travel with children.

But of course. Queen Freebie Irene wouldn't be caught dead in coach.

Anonymous said...

I feel so sorry for Aaden and his gastrointestinal problems. I had the same sort of symptoms when I was his age when traveling (still do!) and I remember HATING going on trips. The problem isn't lack of organic food — it's stress, plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

A couple of comments...

As far as Alexis's speech is concerned (and for that matter many young children in general)using irregular pronouns and such is only a developmental problem if the child can not differentiate and use the correct grammar when prompted. The problem (in my mind) is that unless the children are receiving direct instruction from the parents (a child's first and most important teachers) they will not learn proper usage and then be behind and fall further and further behind as they progress in age.

Secondly, I believe they were flying Southwest and therefore - unless they check in WAY in advance - are receving special treatment in order to get their seats first. I do not fault the airline or KON for this one. I believe most passengers would want the kids as far back as they can be (especially with the bathroom situation).

Finally - please do not pick on Jenny. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have had to do jobs to put myself through school that I was not necessarily crazy about (nothing tawdry by any means but not exactly something I desired to do for the long term)...perhaps this works best with her schedule, pays the most she can earn within her time constraints, etc. If she distances herself from the camera it is probably best for her and not necessarily mandated by Queen Kate. Her clothing is her own issue and not all of us get free duds like KON. She seems like a nice young lady who probably bit off more than she (or most other people) could deal with and is making the best of it until she can move on (which I am sure she will soon enough)

Anonymous said...

Oh - as far as the hittting - completely UNACCEPTABLE - and grounds for suspension (even if it is amongst siblings)...I hope they are saving enough for all the kids to go to private school because with enough incidence they would not be welcome at public schools (imagine the drama Queen Kate could muster for the local Board of Ed).

Anonymous said...

LOL at Kate when they were in the zoo- "Yes, please, I need privacy." Um.. maybe having cameras follow you for 4 days a week isn't giving you the privacy you need. so contradictory

Anonymous said...

Children hitting other children is not "normal" nor should it be treated as such. It should be every parent/care giver's priority to put a stop to that behaviour. To children, being allowed to communicate in that manner shows them that physical violence is the solution to their problems. I have heard Kate say that they don't try to break up every fight and every time I've heard it I've raged a little inside.

Children NEED to learn how to problem solve and express themselves with WORDS. Hitting solves nothing and encourages dangerous behaviour that could worsen as they age. Just because they are siblings they do not have the right to hit each other. Period. Adults are not allowed to hit each other - children are not allowed to hit each other.

And the solution to the hitting problem is NOT a "time out." Time outs teach children that they cannot be trusted to problem solve the situation and be a part of the solution. How do time outs help them become expressive problem solving adults? When was the last time your manager or spouse sent you for a "time out"? How about NEVER. As an adult you're expected to handle yourself in a way that solves the problem at hand. Children should be coached on how to solve their problems through non-violent VERBAL means.

Children need an "emotional vocabulary" and neither Jon nor Kate seem to understand this or work towards providing their children with one. When one of the children is frustrated, rather than dragging them to time out - help the child learn that what they are feeling is frustration. Or anger. Or jealousy. Rather than watching them hit each other, intervene and walk them through what's happening and tell them that "we keep our hands to ourselves."

Let's face it, young children do not understand "apologies" and even more so when they don't understand what they are being sorry for. If one day they are allowed to hit and the next day they aren't...well...how are they meant to live with those mixed messages?

And don't even get me started on the meltdowns. Helloooo, KON...the meltdowns? NOT THE KID'S FAULT. Believe it or not, it's YOUR fault. Kids freak out when they don't feel in control, when they feel that they are being bullied and not listened to. Thrashing around, crying and screaming is the only way these kids are able to get through to their parents. They obviously haven't been taught the words they need like, "I'm really angry right now!" and the parents obviously aren't saying, "you're really angry right now, what can we do to fix this" because they're always going hither tither and yon and don't have time for things like basic parenting skills. We also know from the show that the children seem to have very little control over their own lives. They live by the camera, their behaviour suffers by the camera. Children need to feel important and they need to feel like they have some control. Children being in control isn't always a bad thing you know. It can be something simple like LETTING THEM CHOOSE THEIR OWN CLOTHING. Let them choose what colour cup they drink from. Simple choices make a big difference to little ones and the Gosselin children are denied that right because they have to put on a show all the time and the focus of that family is a show that robs their children of control and choices. If I were being dragged hither tither and yon I think I might throw a fit, too.

Which brings me to my final point which is that so WHAT if you have 8 kids? And SO WHAT if they are all close/the same age? ALL OVER THE WORLD ordinary people every day take care of large groups of children with limited adult supervision. It's called daycare. Or preschool. Or home care. An abundance of children is NO EXCUSE for shoddy parenting.

Frankly, it boggles my mind that while The Queen Bee was on bed rest she wasn't doing some reading. I imagine her time in hospital was uncomfortable if not painful but she was able to journal...could she not have invested in some child development books? Couldn't KON have contacted a early childhood education program for recommendations on books to read about caring for large groups of children? Books that would have given them some help in meeting the emotional needs of a large group of children?

Frankly I'm so sick of their lazy parenting that I had to stop watching the show, among other reasons of course. It would just SICKEN me when I would see them being so blah about poor behaviour and always resort to the easiest solution which for them seems to be time out, ignoring the problem entirely and making children who are not at an age to UNDERSTAND apologies hug and kiss their aggressor.

End rant.

Anonymous said...

Vacation again? So many vacations, we just can't relate anymore in this kind of economy! Kate, if you do not have anything nice to say, especially to your kids, don't say anything. What cracked me up was how Kate looked when she was looking at the seahorses. What was the face she is giving? I also felt bad that Alexis was jumping and Leah was pointing to the fishes that Leah accidentally poked Alexis on the ear, then she cried and hit Leah on the head. There was an adult there yet she did not do anything, then we see Kate jumped in front of the camera! The kids were right there in front of her and she did not do anything!
I guess TLC is running out of ideas so the Gosselins just keep going to any establishments willing to "invite" them in exchange for promotion.
Here's some ideas for future episodes:

1. Kate looking for a job as a nurse. She can even have the job interviews taped for the world to see since it's all about her. It would be interesting to see how Kate would answer typical job interview questions like "Tell me about yourself."

2. Jon working on a website or an online store or something he can consider a home business.

3. Jon looking for a job as an IT. Jon and Kate working on shifts so that there will always be a parent with the kids.

4. Mady and Cara going to a recital so they can show what they learned with the violin and the free piano.

5. Since Kate is getting freebies, it would be good to get ballet or karate lessons for the kids. It's never too early and it enhances the kids' talent.

Anonymous said...

Now we all know that Kate has to use layaway at K-Mart because their tiny, cramped house couldn't possibly hold all the presents for the kids. Everyone knows their house is small, and they are just packed in there as tight as can be. *rolling eyes*

Anonymous said...

....about as far from first class as they could be

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You got that right!

Anonymous said...

Did any one notice how on the airplane one of the little girls said she had to pee and was shown with her dress up and holding places no camera should see! Kate didnt even care that thousands of people saw her little girls underpants! I think that was just wrong.
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I noticed that as well along with my 5 year old daughter. She even asked me why they were showing her like that.

Also, did anyone notice what Jon said after Collin hit his head. Kate scooped him up and was carrying him off the plane. A lot of people were around along with the kids and Jon was like, 'He's OK. He's OK. Move. There's nothing to see here.' I don't know if he was talking to the kids and telling them to move or if was to all the people around them, either way it was still rude and uncalled for.

And I have to agree that all the picking on Jenny should stop. Yes, she signed up for this job but I think the kids seem to like her (at times it looks like a lot better than Kate).

Anonymous said...

Kate corrects Jon constantly on his grammar but I've never seen her try to teach the little ones.

Anonymous said...

"Yes, please I need privacy." -Kate

Umm, didn't you sell that already?

laura linger said...

"I wish TLC/Figure 8 and KON would sit down together or separately and watch the movie A Face In The Crowd with Andy Griffith & Patricia Neal..she discovers him and he becomes a big star; drunk on his own power. Then the tables turn.
That movie is a real eye opener."

Did you just watch that on TCM the other night? I watched it for the very first time and was (am) absolutely fascinated. As in, spellbound. What a compelling, frightening story.

And yes, I saw many, many parallels between Lonesome Rhodes and KON. I was going to post something about it here, but you beat me to the punch, and I am really glad...now I know that the comparisons are not off base.

Loved A Face In the Crowd so much that my blog is now "brought to you by the good folks at Vitajex." ;-)

tripletsmom said...

Why does Kate dress the girls in dresses when they travel? We will be seeing more of the girls underwear if she continues to dress them that way. They should have shorts or pants on. You never know where sexual predators are hanging out!

Anonymous said...

Hi all. Thanks for doing such a good job on the details! I totally agree that the only way the madness will end is if we stop watching. So, I quit. It was hard. It was like finally walking away from a train wreck. But, Its been two weeks and I'm happier this way. I would much rather read your reviews than see her smug little face anyday. Thanks Guys! & Join the club! Remember, everytime you tivo or dvd the show "they" know. Advertisers are shown the stats. Just say no.

Anonymous said...

I am so glad I didn't watch this episode.

Seriously, as tacky as it is to film and show Jenny's arse, it sounds like it was the most interesting thing about that episode. I don't see the purpose of bashing on Jenny. She's not the evil-doer, here. I can't believe that the Figure 8 editor can't seem to remember that this show is supposed to appeal to a mostly female audience. Just a dumb and classless move to use that sort of footage, IMO.

It also seems like all the alleged "improvements" that have been noted over the past few episodes have been tossed out with the bathwater, which exposes exactly how much Jon and Kate altered their behavior in an effort to improve their sullied, over-exposed image. It seems they have re-mucked themselves and can't help but revert to the gravy-fed bottom-dwellers that they are.

Anonymous said...

"has anyone here ever been or had a nanny? is this typical?"

Yes I was a nanny for a very wealthy family. Yes I once went on a trip where I slept with the kids like Jenny and worked my butt off for four days in a row no breaks. We were at a beautiful ski town in Utah and the kids got to do such amazing stuff there. But it was...awful...for me. I quickly learned that I needed the protection of a nanny agency, as well as a written contract whenever I traveled detailing hours, pay, down time, etc. This never happened to me again. So yes it absolutely happens, but thankfully usually only to unsuspecting young nannies who quickly learn.

That being said, by any nanny agency standards what they are doing to Jenni is not only entirely inappropriate and unwarranted, but also very unsafe. Think about it, would you want someone working the hours of a hospital resident watching your eight small children? Jon and Kate are clueless.

I cannot imagine any nanny agency would ever permit anything like this. The liability alone from an exhausted nanny. If Collin had really gotten hurt? Well, it might have been Jenni's fault quite frankly. The rumors appear to be true, she's just some random production intern the production company picked up. This is your kids, Kon. Get a clue.

PBJ said...

Powell Mom said...
No one has mentioned how the kids were napping in the bus transporting them to Legoland (or somewhere) without carseats, and (it looks like) without seatbelts...

I am all for the criticism when it is due, but as for the car seat/seat belts, I was just on holiday and found that kids dont need car seats on "charter" vehicles like a city bus, taxi cabs, shuttle bus. Anything with a paid driver you dont need car seats. And I do believe they had seat belts on. Or some did anyway.

Anonymous said...

Kate, you are a Mommy 24/7, not just when it is convenient to you.

"I don't want Alexis by me on the plane." I also noticed that both Jenny and Jon sat in the middle (a child on each side) but drama queen Kate had to have an isle seat for some selfish reason, leaving Joel with no guardian next to him.

It also irritated me when Kate (once again) has to ruin a great experience for the boys (this time feeding sharks) by telling Aiden he will be stinky all day from the fish food. The little guy's face turned so sad, once again disappointing the Mommy he so wants to please. After that, Collin was told to hurry up and feed the sharks. He looked stressed when he ran to the rail to toss the food in.

And Jon, dear Jon, you should not be bragging about having a room "far away from the kids." You have 8 children that need you near! Oh wait, Jenny can handle anything that may happen, and it must be HER responsibility!

Now, I did (past tense) really enjoy this show, I loved seeing the kids grow up. However, at this point I am more that willing to sacrifice my own joy in watching these kids to save them from this exploitation. I hope the show goes off the air.

Anonymous said...

LOL, did you all see how nicely our Queen did her Queenly Wave as she rode off in the boat? (rolls eyes and shakes head) ughh, Kate what a joke you have become!

Anonymous said...

So, I'm out. I'm done with trying to get the word out about how maybe Jon and Kate aren't exactly as advertized.

Participating on boards with threads on the show I say "well Jon doesn't work and its all freebies" and "Where's Aunt Jodi and Beth" and get back, "who cares, its a good show" and "Beth was on just last week".

Some really don't want to see it do they? I can only hope that a moment will come to them where they see something and it pings that maybe I was right.

Anonymous said...

Lord, what is wrong with this family? These children need serious help. No one corrects their grammar, no one disciplines them, they don't know to act in public. It's ridiculous! The crying, the meltdowns, the disobedience...it's unbelievable!

Unfortunately Jon and Kate are both immature and so self entitled and narcisstic, they don't even realize what's going on around them! They're so worried about where the next freebie or handout is coming from, they've totally lost sight of the needs of their children.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Enough talk about Jenny and her butt. She's young, she's cute but this site isn't for commenting, degrading, or obsessing about someone's body parts. I know her, mainly through people, and she is a great person. I don't think she likes the cameras. Editing plays a big role on how she comes off. She has a lot of personality, it would not be the most comfortable position to be in, IMO.

"I don't think she likes the cameras"??? I'm sure she's filled with loads of personality, but come on. If she was shy around the cameras and/or camera guys she would NOT be wearing skimpy clothes on a "family" reality show. If you know her tell her to get over herself and put some clothes on. I'm a 26 year old mother of one. I'm 5'2 and weigh 105 pounds and yet I would never dress that way if I was a NANNY on NATIONAL tv!! Give me a break!

Anonymous said...

I like Jenny. Lets leave Jenny alone. She seems like a nice kid, just trying to do her job. It would not be fair to her to start criticizing her. At times she really doesn't look too thrilled to be on camera, so hopefully she will be the sense of reasoning on that show.

Anonymous said...

"Finally - please do not pick on Jenny....."

Not sure I saw any "picking on", but I think viewers have the right to comment. The fact is that her clothing is sometimes inappropriate. We have no way of knowing if that is through her own choice or Figure8's. Jenny is a very intelligent college grad with a goal of working in TV production. It appears that she's marginalized by the cameras so that viewers won't get attached to her as we did Jodi and Beth. It also appears that she's marginalized by Princess Kate, or the kids would be expected to mind her better than they do. Alexis hits her, Collin disobeys her. And she has to take it! It's her job as Kate's "helper"! Good grief. She doesn't even get her own room when they travel.

Anonymous said...

Terra said...
I feel so sorry for Aaden and his gastrointestinal problems. I had the same sort of symptoms when I was his age when traveling (still do!) and I remember HATING going on trips. The problem isn't lack of organic food — it's stress, plain and simple.


With all the demands and entitlements that this family is given during all their travels, why is it that Jon & Kate are not demanding or making certain that Aaden's 'organic dietary needs' are on the list of priorities? If Aaden in prone to gastro distress from consuming non organic foods, perhaps J & K /TLC should take precautionary measures and make certain his dietary needs are maintained while traveling. We have seen numerous businesses accomodate the Gosselin family by closing their doors to the general public, travel and transportation needs accomodated, businesses extending services that are above and beyond the norm, but yet, J & K/TLC cannot manage to acquire the means to maintain a 4 year olds dietary needs to minimize the potential of him suffering from gastro distress. IMO, J & K recognize the fact that Aaden has a tendancy to stomach distress when not eating organic food, then be a responsible parent and take appropriate measures to prevent it from happening, dont blame it on the food YOU gave him to eat and then make excuses at the expense of his discomfort!

Anonymous said...

I feel so sorry for Aaden and his gastrointestinal problems. I had the same sort of symptoms when I was his age when traveling (still do!) and I remember HATING going on trips. The problem isn't lack of organic food — it's stress, plain and simple.

11/04/2008 7:31 PM

Actually, it's usually diet. I don't think it has much to do with organic but, when vacationing people tend to eat more junk food, richer foods that are higher in fat, salt, sugar, etc. This can cause intestinal problems. It's pretty common and doesn't mean he's stressed just that he's eating differently than normal. I don't agree with Kate thinking it's organic either.

Anonymous said...

I found it disturbingly invasive, the shot of the 4 year old girl tup curled up in a ball on the plane seat innocently sleeping and a camera man kneeling down next to her seat, filming inches away from her face as she sleeps , all the while, a second camera person finds it necessary to film the first camera guy that is filming the girl tup sleep. Why????

Anonymous said...

Kate asking Jon at Legoland why he is standing there looking "clueless"...and her not knowing where Alexis was at the same time?
Priceless.
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I think the qualities she most rips Jon apart for are the ones she hates most in herself. She calls him clueless when SHE is clueless. She insults him for "standing around with his arms crossed" when HE doesn't know what to do. She gets irate when he does not lead because she doesn't know what to do. It is so obvious. Plus she is a hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

That's just a really unattractive close up of the G.'s when advertising for their upcoming wedding. Kind of frightening looking.

Anonymous said...

And when they showed the slow motion, close-up grins they both had, you just know they cut the scene in after filming each of them looking at a pile of money. Nothing else makes these two smile like that

OMG...too stupid!!!

Anonymous said...

Did everyone see all the shoes in JK's room in SD? What happened to we always wear shoes in hotel rooms? Another contradiction!

The commenter that equated it was dangerous for Jenny to work too many hours with not enough sleep. You should preach that to Kate! I think Kate thinks better Jenny than her to be with the kids 24/7.

Anonymous said...

someone commented on Kate refusing to change Joel's shirt, and added that she wanted the boys to match, as if it was a bad thing. I see her point. My mom had only me and my sister to take care of and whenever we went somewhere crowded, she made sure we matched in some way so she could spot us quickly if she had to.

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I'm starting to think that the kids wearing matching clothes is not completely all about Kate wanting them to, but more about continuity for the show. Remember Jon's beard that he couldn't shave? I don't think that "reality TV" is even possible anymore - once you put camera crews, sound guys, producers, etc. into any situation, it is no longer real.

Anonymous said...

I doubt Aaden's digestive difficulties have anything to do with organic or not. I've had similar problems most of my life. I've been told it's changes in the water, changes in diet, stress, etc. It's probably a bit of everything. My solution is to simply take half a tablet of anti-diarrhea medicine most mornings while traveling. It does wonders. I have kept my diet practically identical to home and still had trouble. Kate has a very limited understanding of organic vs regular food or she wouldn't make the claims that she does.

Anonymous said...

I have stopped watching the show, but really enjoy GWP. Question: When you say the tup was curled up on the seat asleep - did you mean she was actually on the 'seat' part? If so, please tell me that someone put down a sheet or something for her face to be on, not where countless strangers behinds had been.

Anonymous said...

This Lego and Safaris was the last episode for me and my kids. I just cannot stand them one minute longer. The wedding would make want to vomit.

When I see what these people are getting for absolutely doing nothing when there are kids out there with cancer that should be getting these special trips. Why does'nt TLC do a show on Make a Wish foundation, something that means something.

These kids are spoiled, their parents are just showing what they always have been, freeloaders. You know Kate is petrified that if the show gets canceled she will have to go to work, because we all know Jon cannot hold down a job. Kate wants the country to support her kids by watching their show. They never wanted to financially support these kids. For some reason, they think they should not have to. It unbelievable.

Can you all imagine how KON will fight amongst each other when the show is canceled. I mean they show they cannot deal with stress very good at all. Sure everything financially is a dream now for them and going great, but what happens when the TV show is not supporting them anymore?

These are disgusting people. I am done. I will not watch Hawaii or anything else from now on, and I have a feeling this show is going to be canceled shortly.

Can you imagine watching it at xmas time when we are all having trouble wondering how we can give our kids a few things from Santa and watching their kids get more material things on top of what they already have. No thank you. I am not letting this show ruin my holiday spirit, and it will if I keep watching it.

Goodbye KON, and good riddance.

Anonymous said...

Kate uses the word organic when it shouldnt be used. And besides that organic does not always mean its good for you. IMO not eating organic has nothing to do with Aadens troubles. It would do wonders for KON if they realized that the lowly general public is alot smarter than she thinks. I mean are we really suppose to believe that the kids are enjoying them selves on their numerous trips, one look at recent photos of the loving family shows otherwise.

Anonymous said...

My opinion is that in the push to get so many episodes filmed this summer to fulfill the reportedly huge season four contract, that they overworked the kids fitting in filming and dragging them around to places to display them on TV. The twins especially need some down time from school but instead get lots of filming time.

Anonymous said...

I am all for the criticism when it is due, but as for the car seat/seat belts, I was just on holiday and found that kids dont need car seats on "charter" vehicles like a city bus, taxi cabs, shuttle bus. Anything with a paid driver you dont need car seats. And I do believe they had seat belts on. Or some did anyway.

Car seats may not be legally required in vehicles with a paid driver, but the kids most certainly NEED to be safely restrained. Part of doing all this traveling with those children is making sure they are provided with the appropriate booster seats.

I just bought a booster seat last week and it cost about $15 dollars. Seriously, with their income, it wouldn't have been a big deal to purchase(or beg for free)6 booster seats when they arrived at their destination and donate them upon leaving. It would have cost them $75 bucks. If I were them and traveling with 6 kids, I would fork out the extra cash.

If you can't afford to keep your children safe while traveling, they you can't afford to travel. Not restraining those kids while riding in a car or limo is negligent behavior.

lifeoriley said...

I only saw some segments because I flipped over during commercial breaks--but I agree with most commenters about the "Mady ugliness" terminology used by Kate--Why does she have to use that term? Heaven forbid she says that Mady probably needed some alone time or --gasp!-- didn't want to be filmed!
And--does this woman ever truly have fun with her kids, or is it her "job" to stand around with her arms folded, giving orders and talking to the camera?
Another thing I caught was Kate looking at the seahorses and saying "I wanted to cry"--what is that about? Sure, they're cute, facinating even--but cry? I don't get it.
When I saw Kate saying she wanted or liked privacy to the camera, I laughed out loud. Yeah, Kate, privacy. Sure you do.

Anonymous said...

"I'm starting to think that the kids wearing matching clothes is not completely all about Kate wanting them to, but more about continuity for the show."

Continuity for the show because the Gosselin children are being used as walking/talking advertisors for the Gymboree clothing line.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I doubt Aaden's digestive difficulties have anything to do with organic or not. I've had similar problems most of my life. I've been told it's changes in the water, changes in diet, stress, etc. It's probably a bit of everything. My solution is to simply take half a tablet of anti-diarrhea medicine most mornings while traveling. It does wonders. I have kept my diet practically identical to home and still had trouble. Kate has a very limited understanding of organic vs regular food or she wouldn't make the claims that she does.

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I totally agree. How come nothing was said when Aaden was eating those chicken fingers and fris at the ballgame? Or the food at Disney, Sesame Place, Chocolate World, etc? Kate is so delusional and those kids are in for a world of hurt when they start school and Kate has absolutely no control over their eating habits.

I can totally see her being 'that mom' who tells the teachers her kids aren't allowed to eat the food at the school or at the holiday parties or bday events. So sad.

Anonymous said...

Again, I have 5 -- count them -- 5 little ones right in a row. They do not hit each other. They don't hit each other in the head, in the face, with a truck, with a duck. Get it! They do not hit. How did I manage this? I'm around the kids all the time and I reinforce my belief that we don't inflict pain on someone else to get our way. You want that truck before it is your turn to use it? See if your brother will let you have it. If not -- you wait your turn.

Why is this so difficult? As a parent I think it is my job to teach grammar, to keep an eye on my own children, to make sure they don't injure themselves or anyone else on purpose -- I don't know, am I strange or what?

Anonymous said...

Yes, they said they only watch their show or LPBW. Nothing else.
But I do believe that after school Mady gets a cool down time in her parents room watching whatever she wants. But that was not specifically mentioned.

Anonymous said...

My husband works 2 full time jobs and I'm a teacher with a Master's degree (to make more money). We have 2 children and have saved for years to take a cruise this year. Our children will appreciate it and cherish the memories that we will make. I'm proud to be a parent who works an honest living to provide special things for my children. I think that J&K have lost sight of how hard and stressful it is in this economy to make money go a long way. I feel sorry for their kids if their money ever goes away!

Michelle said...

I like reading the recaps here! I don't watch the show anymore. As a parent of 4 young children (who I GASP take care of by myself...all day, every day!!!), I see alot of problems. I know multiples and preemies can have some delays. Kate has said multiple times how lucky they are the kids have no such delays. They should be correcting the tups grammar. Any child rearing book I have ever read says to gently repeat the sentence, using proper grammar to help the child learn. And yes, it might be cute when Alexis says "aldergator", but they should still try to help her. My kids have all had their little cute ways to say things, but we always worked with them and corrected it. The tups are 2 months older than my son, and he speaks much better than they do. One of my daughters has some speech issues, and we've been on top of it since she was about 2 or 3 to give her the best start we could, and she just got a "Meets Expectations" on her first kindergarten report card for her speech! My children also know not to hit each other. My second daughter has been my worst about it, but even she knows what she is doing is wrong, and now that she's gotten older (she's only 5) she knows not to hit. My kids know how to behave in public, and hitting, screaming, running off, and throwing temper tantrums is not it. Yes, all kids act up from time to time, mine included, but it's very obvious that the G kids are like this on every episode. I'm far from being a perfect parent, but I love my kids and I know the most important job I have is to make sure my kids grow up to be upstanding citizens. KON has no clue, and they're doing their kids no favors. I would like to see Kate live a day in my shoes. I work from home, am involved in my daughters' school, and have 2 other children to take care of, no maid, no nanny, no chef, and an 800 sq ft house with 1 bathroom and no basement! She wouldn't last an hour!

Anonymous said...

I think the TV issue is once again what Kate says and what Kate does don't necessarily match. We've seen the kids watching cartoons on TV although I can't remember the episode. We've also seen the TV on in the basement.

I love my son! said...

1.) I love the fact they do not want to sit next to "strangers" while traveling! Are they refering to the "strangers" who watch their show and make "love offerings" and major donations which makes it possible for them to live and travel in the lap of luxury?! Yes Kon, you have some of the cutest kids around but remember not to bite the hand that feeds you. Namely the viewers, because without them you're just another American family struggling to survive.

2.) I also noticed Kon saying their bedroom in their massive "free" suite was not close to the kids room. But Jenny gets to share her room with Cara and Mady. We wouldn't want Kon to be inconvenienced while their on vacation.

3.) Great parenting skills on Kate's part for letting the world know that Mady was acting "ugly". For shame at the thought Mady would actually act like a child! At first I thought Mady was acting like a brat in previous episodes, but she just wants a normal life without every moment being captured. I can't imagine the teasing and taunting those sweet girls go through.

Also, why don't we ever see Cara and Mady with friends, or having sleep overs? Maybe Kon should watch 'Then Came Six' and see what normal parents of tups are like. The Harris parents ROCK. Completly grateful to have healthy and happy kids.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree. How come nothing was said when Aaden was eating those chicken fingers and fris at the ballgame? Or the food at Disney, Sesame Place, Chocolate World, etc? Kate is so delusional and those kids are in for a world of hurt when they start school and Kate has absolutely no control over their eating habits.

Kate drones on and on about feeding her children organic because according to her, she wants her children to have 'healthy bodies' and as a parent, its her 'gift' to them by providing the opportunity for them to eat organically. However, she is not consistent in her theory or 'gift' as she repeatedly disregards maintaining a balance of organic with that of supporting nutritionally healthy foods. On occassions when the children do not eat organically prepared foods, they are eating whatever food is most convenient to them at the time with seemingly no relevance to the food's nutritional value. I would give Kate much more credit if she consistently supported the idea of feeding her children a NUTRITIONALLY BALANCED DIET as opposed to the pretentiousness of her claim of 'all organic'.

Anonymous said...

I am so done with this show. I used to like it when they were at home, but now it seems that the show is not able to support itself unless they are doing something out of the house on one of their freebee handouts. Its not that I dont understand the freebees or how they work, but its just that they cant do anything entertaining unless they are on a freebee extravaganza. BYE BYE G FAMILY... Im devoting my tv time to Little People Big World. At least you can see them enjoying themselves on their farm.

Anonymous said...

I know that a lot of people think that the episode that they are watching was taped within this past week. Not so. This Hawaiian freebee was filmed several months ago. What we see as this weeks episode is not what we often think is "damage control" IE.. when complaints are made about the boys not getting enough affection and then the next weeks episode shows Kate paying attention to the boys, it was done several weeks ago.

Anonymous said...

It was filmed in August. It takes literally weeks to put an episode through post production.

SkippyMom said...

I am not a perfect parent, nor do I claim to be one. With six children total [yours, mine, ours] I can assure you at a very young age [they were 2,3,4,5,6 when we married...and then the little one came along later] all the kids KNEW better than to hit eachother, public or private.

There is no excuse for 4 year olds to slap eachother around to get their way, nor is it ever acceptable to hit a caregiver or give her a swat because they don't like what is going on.

It is ridiculous and no one is going to convince me that "all little kids hit" or use the snark of "well only perfect parents raise kids that don't hit."

I can guarantee you mine didn't hit eachother or schoolmates and the Gosselins allowing this is only another instance of their inability to control this brood. Oh, and Kate is such a poster child for slapping anyway, right?

Anonymous said...

Did everyone see all the shoes in JK's room in SD? What happened to we always wear shoes in hotel rooms? Another contradiction!

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Oh, you silly poster. Kate doesn't allow her family to walk barefoot in LOW CLASS hotels. This apparently is a very nice hotel - so it's ok. I'm sure they will ALL be barefoot at the GW.

Anonymous said...

Kate not giving the boys affection is not a new thing. She has been like that all along. So it doesn't matter when the show was taped.

Anonymous said...

Below is the link regarding seat belt and car seat laws in California. It appears for children under sixteen there is no taxicab exception but, 3Farmers is right. This state, and others have that exception for passengers over 16. They even define a taxicab as a motor vehicle holding 8 or less passengers excluding the driver. The next question is did this vehicle have seat belts installed if so they are supposed to be used by the passengers.
To me this show is nothing more than a half hour commercial. J&K seem to be concerned with whatever suits them at that time. Trip to Hawaii heck leave the car seats behind. Organics we eat em at home say we eat them all the time, blame kids sickness on lack of them. Read back on archived quotes from Jon when he was giving Kate all kinds of junk food when she was pregnant with the six, to keep up her weight. Even McD's. I would like to suggest a show to TLC. It shows J&K on a boat waving to the shore like they did in this episode. We are not coming back, then a caption rolls on the bottom of the TV. We have no desire to continue this show. We wish to spend time with our kids, mend broken relationships this show and our nearsighted greed has caused, and provide our kids a truly normal life. We have more than enough financially and it is because or you, the viewers, our kids, and the generous support we received from day one. Enough is enough.



http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/seatbelts.htm

Anonymous said...

I know that Mady does have her moments, but it seems to me that more often than not, Mady seems to be upset and then the camera is put in her face and it makes her worse. I think that at the very least Kon should say something to the one's filming about letting her have her privacy when she's upset. Too many times, I've seen her crying, catch the camera on her, and then run away or hide her face. How embarassing for that little girl.

Also, not until I started reading this blog, did I make the connection that Hannah is Kate's favorite. Now that I've noticed, I can't believe I never noticed before!! It is so obvious to me now!

My thoughts on Jenny...I agree with those who said she knew what she was getting into when she signed up to be the "helper". I'm sure she's getting paid well, and, busy or not, she's STILL getting to go to Hawaii for free. (I assume).

Also, I wish Kate would quit talking about organic stuff all of the time. WE KNOW she feeds her kids organically. WE KNOW. Must she go on and on about it??? I also think I read somewhere that part of that (eating organically, taking vitamins of all kinds, etc) is from the way she was raised.

As for the little kids' grammar...I'm on the fence about that one. I've had a daycare, worked in several and have four children of my own. I have had kids that did the same thing that Alexis did, in the daycares and in my own home, and the problem resolved itself by being around others that talk the proper way. Hopefully it will get better as she gets older.

My two cents about the hitting: no, it's not right for little kids to be hitting each other. However, I do believe that ALL children hit at one point or another..that's when you teach them NOT to. But for those who I have read on here that said they "never" hit when they were little, I seriously doubt it.

Ok, I'm done now!

Anonymous said...

"Also, why don't we ever see Cara and Mady with friends, or having sleep overs? Maybe Kon should watch 'Then Came Six' and see what normal parents of tups are like. The Harris parents ROCK. Completly grateful to have healthy and happy kids."

I too have wondered why the J & K + 8 reality show does not feature episodes involving the social life of the children, or J & K for that matter. The premise of the show has gone the way of featuring the family participating in one resort vacation after another, days spent at an amusement park, or exclusive to the Gosselin family only activities. What do the children do on their 'down time' from traveling and or performing as an accessory to J & K, what are the twins interests with respect to school/friends/social life, do J & K socialize outside of the 'business', do the tups socialize with children other than their own siblings. Does this family have anything of remote interest to offer its viewers aside from their obvious life of accepting offers in exchange for sponsorship and their over zealous sense of entitlement? TLC claims that the show offers J & K 'economic security and the luxery of being home to raise the children', but WHAT exactly IS the premise of the show and how does the passing of each episode represent that premise to the viewer?

babeeberry said...

~~ThreeFarmers said:
If you can't afford to keep your children safe while traveling, they you can't afford to travel. Not restraining those kids while riding in a car or limo is negligent behavior.~~

Exactly!! I don't give a hoot if car/booster seats are required or not. Limo's can still be involved in accidents, right? People who have been in bus crashes have been killed. You would think that with all of the criticism Jon and Tammy Faye Kate receive they would cover all their bases to avoid problems. Not having those kids in some kind of car seat is dangerous....and neglectful. Oh, and the tups sleeping on those nasty airplane seats without a blanket or sheet protecting their face is GROSS! Just goes to prove the Kon's barely have one brain to split between them.

Anonymous said...

I do not think anyone is picking on Jenny, and I mean no offense to her either. But I wonder if Jenny is an experienced, trained nanny. There are schools for nannies. Has she been to one? If she had some training then she would know that she is entitled to her own room on most(?) trips and some free time as well.
I have seen Alexis hit Jenny in the car. When Alexis was hitting the tups with a doll in NC Jenny was not able to take the doll away from Alexis. Alexis won. When they were on the plane it looked like Colin was giving Jenny a hard time, and then he ran away from her and got hurt. My concern is whether Jenny is capable of handling these children. Oh, where are the Nanny 911 ladies when we need them?

Anonymous said...

My thoughts on Jenny...I agree with those who said she knew what she was getting into when she signed up to be the "helper". I'm sure she's getting paid well, and, busy or not, she's STILL getting to go to Hawaii for free.

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I don't think Jenny had a CLUE as to what she was getting into. It doesn't seemt that she is affiliated with any agency, so she may have applied for the job on her own . Who knows? She may have been one of the sheeple who loved the show and the family and then only when it was too late did she figure things out. I feel sorry for Jenny - she could be so much happier with another family. But she does seem to be a little ray of sunshine in the kids' lives.

And, yes, she does get to go to Hawaii for free, but how fun can it be for her when she's traveling with Kate? As long as she gets good $, and she gets a free trip, she can't be unhappy? I'm sure she regrets the day she signed that contract with KON.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and the tups sleeping on those nasty airplane seats without a blanket or sheet protecting their face is GROSS!
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Isn't Kate a self-proclaimed germophobe ? Just more hypocrisy...

Anonymous said...

Kate stating that the children don't watch any television is absurd. Does that mean movies also? She is lying, because those kids recognize Elmo, Seseme Street, Disney, and many other characters. And at the Aquarium, they all were yelling Nemo and Dory at the fishes. So they obviously do watch television. And by the way, Kate, television is not a crime, you do worse to your children on a daily basis

Anonymous said...

Laura Linger said... Did you just watch that ['A Face In The Crowd'] on TCM the other night? I watched it for the very first time and was (am) absolutely fascinated. As in, spellbound. What a compelling, frightening story.

And yes, I saw many, many parallels between Lonesome Rhodes and KON.

I too watched it and posted in response. I urge everyone to watch it.

I think it's important to note that, when Marcia (Patricia Neal) discovers Lonesome Rhodes, he is not a decent person who is down on his luck. He's a cunning manipulator and a greedy thug who keeps people around as long as they agree with him and are useful to his success.

If any of the above sounds familiar, rent 'A Face in a Crowd' to see Kon's possible future for yourselves.

Anonymous said...

My kids and I used to love this show but I think this will be our last week. I am having a hard time explaining week after week the preferential treatment that these kids are getting(first the Philly's game and now Legoland where we too have been). My 9 year old's comment to his younger brother is that they are "celebrities". I asked if he would like to be followed by a camera all the time just to get these special privileges. His comment "no way"!!!

Anonymous said...

I too was sad to see Kate label Mady's behavior as "ugly". Then, instead of dealing with the situation, deciding to have Mady be the only family member not to enjoy a family outing. That seemed so cruel and harsh. I'll admit that it's not always fun to have your child act up in public, but to remove her from the family is sad.

I really believe that Mady has some issues that need to be addressed. Children act out when anxious or depressed. Even Cara seems so deflated as the episodes progress.

Anonymous said...

Smartyq: I've seen that movie and you are right on with the KON future. (Andy Griffith was fantastic in the role! I never knew him to be an a$$ in any role! :) )

KON should be careful who they're trampling on during the ride up-- It is an awfully quick and sharp drop down!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember when Ladies Home Journal (or whichever magazine it is), showed the update of the McCaugheys and their brand spanking new and FREE house/decorated bedrooms and playrooms? What would you say to that?

Anonymous said...

You know, TLC makes a lot of mistakes. It is obvious that they are stretching out the "getting to Hawaii" show and I think it will backfire on them for sure.
You know how you sometimes wait and wait in anticipation for some grand event? And then it's built up to the point that when it finally takes place, you feel let down?
This is what I see coming straight at us from TLC.
We will look at the wedding and say "?".

Anonymous said...

In the closing credits, there is a Production Assistant named Jennifer Bragg. Maybe this person and "Nanny Jenny" are one in the same.

Jenny could just be a person paying her dues in order to get a better assignment within the production company.

Anonymous said...

I have a neighbor that proudly states that she doesn't let her kids watch any TV. However the kids were constantly sitting in front of the TV watching DVD's for hours and hours and hours on end. Oh yeah, the kids don't watch TV- give me a break!!!
My neighbor and Kate are very alike. They truly believe what they say to others.I strongly feel that Kate keeps saying that God gave her these children and God is directing her to all these blessings to rationalize with herself that she is doing the right thing, although she knows it is wrong.

Robert said...

...Jenny is wearing some skimpy shorts there! I'm surprised Queen Bee lets that happen....

Hmmm, Jenny in skimpy shorts. Guess I need to catch this episode when it's run again.

Anonymous said...

"I don't want Alexis by me on the plane." I also noticed that both Jenny and Jon sat in the middle (a child on each side) but drama queen Kate had to have an isle seat for some selfish reason, leaving Joel with no guardian next to him.
To be fair, both Jon and Kate proudly declared they didn't want to sit with Alexis on the plane. (Who did end up sitting with her? Mady or Cara? Jenny?)
And I don't think Joel needed a guardian next to him...his mother was two seats away from him. Maybe Leah wanted to sit next to Joel.

It also irritated me when Kate (once again) has to ruin a great experience for the boys (this time feeding sharks) by telling Aiden he will be stinky all day from the fish food. The little guy's face turned so sad, once again disappointing the Mommy he so wants to please.
That was sad. I've noticed that a lot of times, both Jon and Kate don't even try to fake some enthusiasm for their kids and pile on the criticism.

Lonnyswife said...

Anonymous said...
In the closing credits, there is a Production Assistant named Jennifer Bragg. Maybe this person and "Nanny Jenny" are one in the same.

Jenny could just be a person paying her dues in order to get a better assignment within the production company.
11/05/2008 1:25 PM



Or another scenario could be that
IF Nanny Jenny is being paid by the production company they list her as an employee for tax purposes. A production assistant is basically a fancy title for a go-fer.

Anonymous said...

"I can guarantee you mine didn't hit eachother or schoolmates and the Gosselins allowing this is only another instance of their inability to control this brood. Oh, and Kate is such a poster child for slapping anyway, right?"

Eh, someone else will come along again and state that ALL kids hit. I think they feel badly that theirs do. I don't understand the need to state an obvious untruth though. Truth is, not all kids hit!

Anonymous said...

Someone suggested that Jenny was a production assistant playing at being a nanny "paying her dues in order to get a better assignment within the production company." Oh, I hope not.
Because Jenny is young and fond of children should not be the only reasons for hiring her. These children need a professional nanny and I would still like to know whether Jenny has any training. How was she chosen? Does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

I have 7 children, soon to be 8 (yes they are all my own and no fertility treatments), one boy then twins (boy and girl) then a girl, another girl, and and twin boys. My husband makes good money but hes not home often and I have no nanny! My kids are all 2 years apart from the next or less and I dont complain! I dont know why Kate thinks she has it so hard or that it is somebody elses responsibility to take care of her children. Just because she had 6 at once does not mean anything! She should count her self blessed and forget all about TLC and figure 8 before she does even more damage to her childrens lives! What about predators, those poor kids are shown in the tub! Everyone who has seen the show knows the foot print of their home, they all know Alexis sleeps in the basement! I guess that makes it a good thing they are constantly away making memories.

Sorry about being so angry but Im just outraged. This show has gone too far.

Anonymous said...

In regard to the younger children's grammar and baby talk, I believe that this shows one more aspect of Jon and Kate being neglectful parents. My youngest son (we have five children) was diagnosed with a speech delay at his regular 18-month well child checkup by the pediatrician. That very day she (the doctor) called the local children with special needs office and got a hearing screen scheduled, and also called First Steps (a therapy program in our state for children up to age three) and got an observation scheduled for our son. He began speech therapy before age two, and was severely delayed in speech. Before his third birthday, he no longer qualified for the speech therapist because he had progressed so quickly. Speech delays and problems ARE learning disabilities, and parents need to do everything in their power to assure that their children are not behind in any area when they start school, whether it is public or private school. A number of private schools in our area do not offer any type of learning delay classes, and they simply tell the parents that their children have to go to public school in order to receive the services that they need. Jon and Kate, you need to concentrate more on the lives of your children than on how you look on camera! It is so much easier on children to start off on the right foot with school/education than to start out a few steps behind. Pay attention to their needs and make sure that they receive any and all special help that they can benefit from. Our children really are tomorrow's leaders; let's equip them as best we can.

Anonymous said...

The McCaughey's are still living in that same house with their brood, which is 11 years this month, I believe. When those babies came, they were living in a TINY two-bedroom home. When I say TINY, I mean it. That home had only about 700 or 800 sq feet.

While they allow an occasional update on their children (usually with Ladies Home Journal or the Today Show), they do not make their living that way. I know Kenny works and the last I heard
Bobbie does, too. Their children are never shown while bathing, using the potty, or running around in their undies and you NEVER hear those parents say belittling or negative things about their children to the media.

There is a world of difference between the McCaughey's and the Gosselins. I cringe to hear the two names mentioned in the same sentence.

Anonymous said...

"There is a world of difference between the McCaughey's and the Gosselins. I cringe to hear the two names mentioned in the same sentence."

My guess is, it makes the McCaughey family cringe as well.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"You know, TLC makes a lot of mistakes. It is obvious that they are stretching out the "getting to Hawaii" show and I think it will backfire on them for sure."

What I would like to know is; was J & K's AugustCA/ Hawaii trip a vacation from their two week long July NC 'working vacation? Or, was the two week long NC trip really a vacation under the guise of being a 'working vacation' and the Hawaii trip 'work' under the guise of being a vacation? Im confused as to what J & K/TLC considers to be 'work' and what is a 'vacation' as they both seem to be one in the same and the children are ALWAYS working!

Anonymous said...

"Because Jenny is young and fond of children should not be the only reasons for hiring her. These children need a professional nanny and I would still like to know whether Jenny has any training. How was she chosen? Does anyone know?"
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I can only surmise as to your question. Here's my take: Jenny seems to have no real "nanny training." She's in more of a babysitter role. Babysitters just stay with the kids and make sure nothing bad happens to them while the parents are out. Maybe they play with them, but have no where near the skill level of a trained nanny. I bet Jenny was a friend or family member of a Figure 8 employee who said, for example, "Hey, my cousin Jenny might be up for it!" That's how I think she got hooked up in the job. And frankly, she never seems to be having a good time. She is very bland - but this may be due to editing. Maybe she is really well paid and is saving for college. Have to give the girl credit for pursuing higher ed - unlike some people we know (KON).

Anonymous said...

It is not true that "all kids hit." I was in my church nursery and saw a little girl (6 years old) brutally kick and slap a set of twin boys, also six years old. The boys were in shock,it seems. Their little faces turned red and they did not retaliate in any way. I grabbed her and asked why she was hitting them. Her answer was that she did not like them. This little girl does come from a family of "hitters." The twin boys come from a family of non-hitters, and it was very apparent the boys did nothing to her.

Anonymous said...

I used to teach kindergarten and we K teachers had a standing opinion. Some kids come to school socialized and other don't. Kate's fall into the not socialized category. Socialized kids don't hit, they know how to use the potty independently, they don't have tantrums, they can express themselves intelligibly and with a reasonable command of proper sentence structure, etc.

Anonymous said...

"Wait....I thought those children never watched t.v. or if they did, it was only their own show. Hmmm, they sure did seem to know who Nemo was and were quite excited about that. Kate is such a liar."

Not to defend Kate...
Cartoons are heavily crosspromoted/marketed in other products.

My children know several characters on many shows they have never seen just because:

1. Other children mention it
2. Books books and more books--my child was reading Scooby doo books before she ever saw scooby doo.
3. Stores that sell branded merchandise such as bathroom/bedroom decor and toys.
4. Plus they had their trip to Disney. Only their visit to the Magic Kingdom was shown--however if they went to Epcot there is a nemo ride and exhibit. There is also a nemo show at Animal Kingdom.

So it is hugely possible they know who Nemo and Dory are without ever seeing it on tv.

My children know who the teletubbies are and I never let them watch that show. But in their toddler/pre-school years they had friends who knew them.

My kids don't watch Sesame Street but my younger daughter wanted to be Abby Cadabby for Halloween.

Anonymous said...

"Also, what was with the girls wearing dresses everywhere...On the plane, to Lego Land? I would not enjoy wearing a skirt to an amusement park. You don't see Kate wearing a skirt."

My 6yo wears skirts EVERYWHERE. I don't make an issue of it unless it is something where underwear would be deliberately exposed--like a gymnastics class. Then we make sure her bottom is covered.

But girls in skirts at 4 is fine.

Anonymous said...

To those who are questioning what J&K need a Hawaiian vacation from, let me answer that for you. They need a vacation from: free plastic surgery, free games/toys, paid promotional events, free Phillies games, craft service, free clothes, depending on your 8 and 4 year old children for your income, other free vacations and exploring potential million dollar homes. Boy, listing all they do really brought a tear to my eye. Just be thankful you don't have to work as hard as them! (cough, cough)

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they'll need another 5 day "layover" in Southern California again on the flight back home to PA...

Anonymous said...

But since their life is their job and their job is their life, isn't a vacation impossible? The only vacation is if they stop filming.

Anonymous said...

I have been watching this show from the beginning. I too, was totally fascinated by these beautiful children and their (at the time) semi-normal parents. Unfortunately, I, like all of you, am done with this show. Week after week the same displays. I am in shock that there seems to be no connection to any of the people who used to support and love them. When you see the past episodes with Beth, Nana Janet, Kevin and Jodi it's shocking that these very stable loving people have been ripped from these kids lives.
Hope they save their money for all their childrens future therapy bills. Kate commented that the point of the filming was that they never had time to take photos or film. I would not want these videos getting into the hands of these kids when they are old enough to see some of the excrutiating memories that where documented. Shame on Figure 8.

Thanks for a great site GWP, I will keep up with you.

Anonymous said...

I've never been to Hawaii nor traveled abroad, so this question is for all those wanderlusting folks who have had to deal with serious jet lag.

I'm trying to keep in mind that the time difference between Pennsylvania and California is 3 hours. The time difference between California and Hawaii is 2 hours.

Wouldn't it be easier to battle jet lag once for 5 hours instead of twice for 3 and 2 hours, respectively?

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice how much Jon has begun to verbally stick up for himself to Kate these days? Does anyone else think it's because Jenny the Nanny is around?

laura linger said...

Yes, ThreeFarmers, that is correct.

I am lucky enough to get to vacation every now and then in Hawaii, and you deal with the time change and jet lag like this: you stay up, upon your arrival in Hawaii, until your regular bedtime in Hawaiian time.

You go to bed and get a good night's rest.

You awake refreshed and your body clock wound to Hawaiian time.

*shrug* That's what works for me, anyway. Besides, who cares if you have jet lag when you're in Hawaii? It's HAWAII! It's all about being mellow, relaxing, resting, having a leisurely time.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember when Ladies Home Journal (or whichever magazine it is), showed the update of the McCaugheys and their brand spanking new and FREE house/decorated bedrooms and playrooms? What would you say to that?
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I say great for them! : ) They are also very grateful people. And you have not seen them selling out their kids for the purpose of living off them. I like hearing about them and other multiples once in a while. That is very different from having professional lighting installed in your house and having production crews in your home several days of the week. At least their children will not grow up thinking everything is free--since their parents do not go on constant trips, beg for tons of freebies. They do not seem to be having everything around them shut down so they can be treated like royalty..so yep, I'd say good for them! How about you?

Anonymous said...

KON should be careful who they're trampling on during the ride up-- It is an awfully quick and sharp drop down!
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I think you mean stampled.

Anonymous said...

Not to defend Kate...
Cartoons are heavily crosspromoted/marketed in other products.

My children know several characters on many shows they have never seen just because:

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Kate makes this ridiculous claim when there have been several episodes where the kids are shown watching tv (and not the home videos either). Even Jon has mentioned that the kids watch tv in their bedroom most mornings....

Anonymous said...

3F-

I have been lucky enough to travel to Maui a few times , with young children no less, GASP!!(I am the anon who posted the response letter from the GW) Adjusting to the time change is pretty easy and quick (about 3 days) because it's easy to stay up later and your body just adjusts by sleeping later the next morning. KON'S attempt at justifying the "layover" in SD is pathetic.

I also mentioned this in an earlier post, but the jet lag on the RETURN trip is much more difficult. What are KON going to do to ease that transition? NOTHING, because they weren't "invited" anywhere else for this episode. I'm hoping KON allowed a few days for the kids to recover before sending them back to school, otherwise they will truly be exhausted.

These 2 make me so sick.

Anonymous said...

Oh, sorry 3F -

Forgot to mention that we are on the east coast so the time difference is 6 hours.

My husband travels abroad sometimes - when he goes to Korea, the time difference is 12 hours and his jet lag lasts about 5-6 days after he gets home.

As an aside to anyone who cares : my family (immediate and in-laws) is Korean - Jon is an insult to Koreans everywhere. Ugh.

Anonymous said...

Actually in the summer time it would have been a 6 hour time difference between PA and HI.
Hawaii doesn't do the daylight savings time thing.

Anonymous said...

I truly wonder if these kids haven't traveled more to amazing parks and places, and had more adventures than any other kids anywhere! Princess Di took her kids to ski in Colorado and to different beaches and other things, but she was a workiing Princess and her kids probably didn't even have all the spare time the Gosselin kids have. Who else could possibly afford this lifestyle and who else would have all that free time? It would surely have to be NON WORKING parents with young children. Hmmm. Guess that means only the Gosselins can have all these wonderful blessings, because everybody else in the world has a life!

Anonymous said...

In no way is this in defense of Kon, but even going from Ca time to HI time with 2 toddlers was hell.

I was the nanny and the parents had the brilliant idea of letting the wee ones go to bed at like 430pm HI time since it was bedtime in Ca. Well, they got up at 3am HI time ready to start the day. And they slept in my room. And I was told to get UP and start the day with them. WTF?


I am still very close to this family but that was just plain ridiculous. I was there with them 10 days with no day off, and I got something like $200. They justified that by saying they paid airfare, food, hotel room I had. Ha!! You need to pay me as you would if I were at your house, you can't guilt trip by whining that you forked out a bunch of money to get me to your destination/feed me about 30 meals in Honolulu/pay for my room (with 2 cribs in it!)

That was the last time I traveled with them. I hope the topic comes up soon so I can remind them of it all, and see if they feel any of it wasn't right.

Anyone reading this who has a nanny, please do not disrespect them or do this to them. These are the people caring for your KIDS. Treat them well, pay them well.

Anonymous said...

I went to Hawaii, on a Make-A-Wish trip, no less. I went with my 3 children, alone.
It makes me ill to watch these people just take and take. I only watched about 5 min. of the show. My daughter has to have a brain tumor to get a wonderful trip, and it was. It was a trip of a lifetime. We were so very greatful. To see these able bodies parents with their kids have a free trip like my child received is to much for me. To see them treated special for NO reason is to much for me.
We flew from Ohio and it only took about 2 days to get use to the time change. Big deal, put the kids to bed early . We went to bed at 6pm on night. Not a very big deal. TLC would get my respect if they gave a more diserving family a trip of a lifetime. Not to people that can afford it and that have done nothing special or been though anything hard.

Anonymous said...

I truly wonder if these kids haven't traveled more to amazing parks and places, and had more adventures than any other kids anywhere! Princess Di took her kids to ski in Colorado and to different beaches and other things, but she was a workiing Princess and her kids probably didn't even have all the spare time the Gosselin kids have. Who else could possibly afford this lifestyle and who else would have all that free time? It would surely have to be NON WORKING parents with young children. Hmmm. Guess that means only the Gosselins can have all these wonderful blessings, because everybody else in the world has a life!


Let's hope that when these kids all become adults, they'll have more to show for all their hard work than a bunch of frequent flier miles.

Anonymous said...

The whole jet lag thing - get over it. Take nap and be done with it. Most children don't have a firm grip on the concept of time anyway.
That is just an excuse to have the SD trip. They have been getting critism about the freebies and thought this would make it sound better.
What is with Alexis? I understood a while back she slept in the basement because she had started waking up the other kids. Is that still going on? If so, work with it. Even they have to see how damaging it is to single out a child in a negative way. She is made to sleep with Jenny in one episode and no one wants to sit with her on the plane. What in heaven's name did this child do to those parents?
Kids have 'issues' be it potty training, sleep but that's part of the parenting experience. Teach and reassure you child. Come on, this is ridiculous!

Anonymous said...

My Thoughts:

-Cara and Mady clearly don't want to do this show anymore! Give them a break! Maybe Emtanner can make "Free Mady" t-shirts!

-My heart bled for Collin and Aedan. Kon needs to keep Aedan's digestive issues private!

-Let's cut Jenny some slack. She's hired to Nanny these kids. Her shorts and personality should not be up for discussion. None of this exploitation is her fault. Actually, I think that when she has the kids in her charge they get some privacy because Kon doesn't seem to want too much of Jenny shown.

-Kate and Jon: YOU (personally) were not "invited" to these resorts. The show and Figure8 were invited. You just happen to tag along because you are acting on this show. They didn't "invite" you because they like you and wanted to spend time getting to know you. They "invited" the camera crew for free advertisement. They are not be fans of your show. They are big fans of the advertising. Let's be honest.

Anonymous said...

Although it doesnt seem like KON went thru the whole " weeping for their infertility" period, if you look at the timeline in getting pregnant, i dont think they shed too many tears over negative pregnancy tests. Nevertheless Kate talks about the emotional journey. I wonder if she can look back in time.. and realize how lucky she has to have 8 HEALTHY children, when in all honesty, she could have had none, or very sick, sick, childrend. My husband and I have been trying seince 2004, and while i am not in her shoes, i can never imagine being that ungrateful for something that is wanted so much. Theese little babies are blessings, not opertunities, love them, dont cash in on them.
Just my opinion...

Anonymous said...

Anyone else notice the very quick but very dirty look Kate shot at Jenny when Collin fell? It was quick but before she even picked up Collin, Kate looked back at Jenny with a "look".

Anonymous said...

Bravo to anon who said Katie Irene was not personally invited to the resorts and parks: the CAMERAS were.

Also, though I know the kids watch tv, why did they brag that their kids don't watch tv? What is wrong with some tv?If I had 2 kids I'd put on the tv, and 8? Sure would!!!

Anonymous said...

My 9 year old daughter and I were watching the morning news shows today and they were talking about the Obama children's new life with the Secret Service following them everywhere. My daughter didn't understand the full impact of that so I explained that the Secret Service is always present to them from now on. They will never be alone without them for now anyway. My daughter said "like Cara and Mady and the cameras?" I said "yes sort of. What do you think?". She said "I would hate it like Mady does!"

Anonymous said...

Comment on anonymous' post 11-4-08 8:11 pm: Your rant is right on! I posted something very similar earlier, that Kon is unable to assist their kids with their anger/emotional issues because Jon and Kate are unable to deal with their own issues, like Kate's over reacting to everyday events and her germophobic tendencies...and that's probably why Mady, bless her heart, acts out the way she does...one more comment: maybe Kate keeps bringing up 'organic' as much as possible in the hopes that Whole Foods or a similar company snaps her up as a spokesperson (hope not)

Anonymous said...

I was channel surfing and came across the rerun of this epi. I saw the first 5 minutes where Kate had a complete hissy fit in the airport. OMG, she just needs to shut her mouth. I kept wanting Jon to just come out and say " Kate, shut the f*** up !" And I don't know how Jon doesn't explode with anger when Kate grabs his mouth and tries to make him say that Kate was right. That was all I needed - I started watching something else....

Anonymous said...

I am taking Jon and Kate off my Tivo. From now on, instead of watching this show and putting more money in the hands of these scammers, I am going to put aside $10-$20 per week and at Christmas I will donate it to a Truly needy family. In this economy, there are people out there who need "love offerings" for real. Let's face it, Jon and Kate get "love offerings" every time someone watches this show.

Anonymous said...

We flew from the eastern time zone to Ireland with my twin boys when they were 4 - my very active, always on the go boys! One of whom has since been diagnosed with Aspberger's. They did fine with the jet lag, much better than we did actually. The long plane ride was fine as long as you have things to keep them busy. I have to say, though, I did identify with the many trips to the airplane lavatory. Something about that little place really intrigues kids!

Anonymous said...

Just sent my letter to Paradise Point.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone happen to catch the beginning of another meltdown from Mady when they finished the boat "race". She was obviously very frustrated because she couldn't steer the boat well. As soon as she got off the boat, she started stomping her feet/pumping her arms, and then it cuts to the next scene.

I feel so badly for Mady, and Cara too, but more so for Mady because her behaviour is criticized (even by the Pro-G sites). I used to think she was a brat until I started to read this blog, now my heart just goes out to her.

Anonymous said...

I believe Kon have traveled a lot, but I don't think they're seasoned travelers. I've traveled a lot of my adult life, and I can recognize the seasoned travelers when I get on a plane. We know what to do the moment we get to the airport. Kon always seem like a couple of yokels on their first flight.

I flown from JFK to various points in Asia more times than I can remember. Going is no big deal; returning messes you up. You end up awakening at 2:00 AM convinced that you'll die if you don't have something to eat, so you find yourself at the kitchen table eating a ham sandwich.

Kon have been to Hawaii, so they should know that. They also should know that many of the viewers didn't just fall off of the turnip truck, but I don't think they believe it.

Anonymous said...

Oh my goodness....I just have to comment on that stupid "commercial" about the upcoming renewal of vows ceremony. The stupid looks that Jon and Kate give each other while holding hands even embarrasses me. I can't believe that they truly film this stuff. Yikes, these two have gotten such big heads over all their so called "celebrity".

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice how Jon and Kate reacted when Alexis got away from the group at LegoLand? Jon has a huge issue with his kids being mingled with the rest of the public. It is like now they expect special privileges including empty parks for their own entertaining.

Here's an idea: If you don't want your kids' safety to be jeopardized, get them out of the public eye.... goodness gracious is it that hard???

Anonymous said...

KONS constant complaining about jet lag on the way to Maui is really grating on my last nerve.

A professional colleague of mine just flew to Afghanistan for his second tour of duty in the Iraq war. I don't know his flight schedule but he did not utter a single complaint about anything. He is in the Army reserves as a physician and he serves his country unselfishly. I am so proud of him and all the soldiers who serve.

KONS, please just shut up, stop the complaining about every little detail in your cushy life. You are living in such a bubble. People are done with you.

Ilovemykids said...

As someone who flown to Hawaii from the East Coast several times, you don't get jet lag going over to Hawaii - you get it coming back.

Now, if Kon had said they wanted the kid's internal clocks to slowly adapt to Hawaiian time, now they might have an argument IF they had not stayed in San Diego for 5 days.

jen in pa said...

ThreeF, we currently live in PA, but lived in San Diego while my kids were very young and made many trips back and forth across the country. It is MUCH easier to go west than east. When you go west, the kids just wake up earlier and are ready to go. However, going back east is much harder. My normally up at 6am kids had trouble waking (as did I) and we seemed to start our days incredibly late (going west to east). Jon & Kate's whole "fake" time change explanation is really ridiculous to those of us who have done it in real life over and over. It was just an exuse for Figure 8 and TLC to extract more freebies for these greedy parents and, ultimately, disgust even more viewers in these tough economic times. And no, I'm not jealous. I've been to all those places in San Diego. The difference is, my husband and I PAID to take our family there. We have always worked. We don't make a living off of our children's backs. Jon and Kate are becoming more and more repulsive as time goes on.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait to see what Santa will bring the Gosselin family this year. Let me guess, they'll travel to the North Pole and get a personal tour by Santa himself. "eye roll"

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice how Jon and Kate reacted when Alexis got away from the group at LegoLand? Jon has a huge issue with his kids being mingled with the rest of the public. It is like now they expect special privileges including empty parks for their own entertaining.
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Not to defend KON, which I would NEVER do, but I think Jon's reaction was valid : one of his small children was wandering off by herself in a crowded public place.

Anonymous said...

"Vomitous boy" = Joel

"Potty Boy" = Aedan

....I'm seeing a trend...

Anonymous said...

I believe Kon have traveled a lot, but I don't think they're seasoned travelers. I've traveled a lot of my adult life, and I can recognize the seasoned travelers when I get on a plane. We know what to do the moment we get to the airport. Kon always seem like a couple of yokels on their first flight
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Seriously ! The first scene Dumb and Dumber unable to figure out from what gate they are departing ( Jon even says he doesn't know ) baffled me. It's not rocket science for crying out loud - your boarding pass even states what gate is yours. And don't even get me started on Kate during that scene..........

I've traveled enough in my life that going throught the airport is a no brainer. We all know KON travel quite a bit - you would think they would have it down pat.

On another note: someone posted earlier that, for all of Kate-is-so-organized BS, shouldn't she have planned to have some extra, separate food for Aaden since his tummy is so sensitive ? Again, a no brainer. Kate is so out of touch with reality and her kids, it's shameful and shocking.

Anonymous said...

Re the TV, I know I've heard them mention the DVD player in the van, and the many hours of traveling, how it keeps them occupied (wish I could remember the episode, but I rarely watch it anymore), I'm sure in their minds, DVDs aren't the same as TV.
Also, there is an update on PP's website, about a couple that took their twin kids out of school, to travel across the country on bicycles if anyone wants to check it out.
And lastly..I flipping through channels and saw one of the other tup shows on the discovery channel, I belive these are older than KON's kids, although they didn't show anything, and the kids had long shirts on, they showed them changing thier underwear. I keep shaking my head, wondering what is the matter with these parents? And yes, I am afraid that more people are going to try to get their own shows, or have multiples, see who can have the most at once, for the money especially how easily it is to get the meds needed online.

Anonymous said...

Even on vacation Alexis has to sleep on the couch.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
hmmmmmmm...kraft services couldn't get organic food on the west coast? Somehow I doubt that

11/04/2008 9:41 AM

Good point! California is totally organic!

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be easier to battle jet lag once for 5 hours instead of twice for 3 and 2 hours, respectively?

I have flown from PA to LA for an hour lay over and then to Hawaii. The jet lag was terrible and I was in my 20's. I think it would be hard on the kids. I think the lay over in San Diego was a good idea, but they didn't need 5 days and they should have skipped the sight seeing.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Oh my goodness....I just have to comment on that stupid "commercial" about the upcoming renewal of vows ceremony. The stupid looks that Jon and Kate give each other while holding hands even embarrasses me. I can't believe that they truly film this stuff. Yikes, these two have gotten such big heads over all their so called "celebrity".

I happened across the J & K Hawaii wedding vow renewal commerical this afternoon while flipping channels. My first reaction was, who the hell cares. Secondly, if J & K + 8 is TLC's top rated show, why all the hype and push to get viewers to watch?

Anonymous said...

I have to comment on the time change issue- As a teacher, I see how time differences can absolutely be a factor in children's demeanor. This week for instance has been a nightmare at school (I teach 3 year old children) because of the one hour difference this past weekend for day light savings.

Also, when I went to Las Vegas from PA the time change was awful for all of us, including the children. They were tired and cranky for the first couple days at least...and once they are on the new "schedule" it was time to return...ugh!

Anonymous said...

"...one more comment: maybe Kate keeps bringing up 'organic' as much as possible in the hopes that Whole Foods or a similar company snaps her up as a spokesperson (hope not)"

Kate keeps bringing up how she feeds her kids organically because it's her way of saying "see, I AM a good mom!" Although my kids are teenagers, I remember well the moms in our playgroup who were constantly tooting their own horn. They can't just let people admire their parenting skills, they have to constantly tell people what exceptional mothers they are. This behavior is usually a result of insecurity or guilt.

IMHO, deep down, Kate knows what they are subjecting their children to is wrong. She tries to overcompensate for this by putting on her mother of the year act. As if being vigilant about gum, germs and limiting TV makes it OK that her 8 children are enduring a life that has been illegal for child actors for many decades.

Anonymous said...

Even if Kate can't navigate an airport (well, she's not the sharpest tool in the shed), the Gosselins travel with a crew of people, any one of whom could point them in the right direction. And don't. The joke's on someone; I'm just not sure if it's them or us. Or the kids.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice how Jon and Kate reacted when Alexis got away from the group at LegoLand? Jon has a huge issue with his kids being mingled with the rest of the public. It is like now they expect special privileges including empty parks for their own entertaining.

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I have to disagree on this one. That park seemed really crowded and I would have also been keeping tight tabs on my children. I doubt it had anything to do with them being mingled with other kids. And about Alexis specifically, she was about to re enter the rope course, any parent would have pulled their child out if they werent going to let all of the others go back through as well

Anonymous said...

Even if Kate can't navigate an airport (well, she's not the sharpest tool in the shed), the Gosselins travel with a crew of people, any one of whom could point them in the right direction. And don't. The joke's on someone; I'm just not sure if it's them or us. Or the kids.

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That's why it didn't ring true to me. We know there is a crew traveling with them. I'm sure they had camera people in front and behind them. She had to know where to do. She is just creating drama--either trying to rub it in to the viewers who have written that Jon needs to lead the family and stand up to Kate (because we know they read this), or is really just trying to contrive something of interest to keep people watching and her gravy train rolling. I've never seen anything to beat it. I wonder if her estranged family and friends watch and wonder how they ever could have tried having a civil relationship with her.

Anonymous said...

OhioMom...I was so surprised to read your comment! I have the same reaction watching them with all of their free trips. I actually quit watching last season for the same reason. My daughter, who also had a brain tumor, got to go on a Make-a-Wish trip as well, although she chose Orlando. So the Disney episode was hard for me, and it wasn't long after that I stopped watching it (but I do read the recaps). And not even so much for my daughter but all the kids I know who have had relapse after relapse, or are not going to make it...and yet Kon get all these free trips and privileges. I often wonder what they would do if one of their kids became seriously ill (which I hope never happens-even THEY don't deserve that). I don't think Kate could handle long periods of hospitalization, and she would never make it through a kid's chemo.

Anonymous said...

Instead of the jokes Jon and Kate crack about Aaden's digestion problems, why don't they seek medical attention? He may have a serious issue that is no laughing matter. But then again, I recall another recent episode when during a routine check up,the Dr. found one of the girls had an ear infection, a complaint Jon said had been voiced by the little girl (I can't recall which one now) weeks prior! Instead of taking her to the Dr. they waited weeks! That's plain abuse to me! Let's see Jon or Kate go around with an ear ache for weeks and not address it!!! Poor kids!

Anonymous said...

"I think the lay over in San Diego was a good idea, but they didn't need 5 days and they should have skipped the sight seeing."

I agree. IMO, it was ridiculous for J & K to justify the 5 day lay over in CA by saying the children needed time to adjust to the time difference. From the time they (the Gosselin family) departed from the airport the children were rushed from one sight seeing location to another. As if the disruption in routine and long air travel wasnt exhausting and stressful enough on these children, J & K / TLC continue to 'work' the children during their 5 day time adjusting layover in CA.

Anonymous said...

"Not to defend KON, which I would NEVER do, but I think Jon's reaction was valid : one of his small children was wandering off by herself in a crowded public place."

I have a question about this part, was the camera still on her and not saying anything to the parents?
I think I finally got it off of my direct tv to tape each episode, I've been trying to figure it out for the longest time, and I'm sure it's something simple..lol Erased all old episodes off.

Anonymous said...

"I happened across the J & K Hawaii wedding vow renewal commerical this afternoon while flipping channels. My first reaction was, who the hell cares. Secondly, if J & K + 8 is TLC's top rated show, why all the hype and push to get viewers to watch?"

I so agree! I'm a self diagnosed channel surfer (lol), and everytime I go across TLC, there is something about them on there. And the few times I might watch a few minutes of a show on there, those stupid little pop up people at the bottom of the screen, as KON would say, are so "annoying", I can't believe that they don't realize how stupid they look and act.

Anonymous said...

Concerning Jon being concerned about his children wandering off, my whole point WAS if he is soooooo concerned about his childrens' safety THEN perhaps they should take them ALL out of the public eye... Not just out of the public park. If you would have read the rest of my post, it would have made sense. I wasn't beating Jon up for being a concerned parent at all. Just that he should concentrate on taking his children out of the public eye ALL TOGETHER.

Anonymous said...

Nothing says wedding vow renewals paid for by TLC, because of your 6 miracle children, like: I am not talking to you the rest of the trip. Way to go crew. I am beginning to wonder if Figure8 can edit skillfully, or if bad publicity is some publicity. Five minutes into the show and they are behaving worse than the children.
Trip to Hawaii free
Clothing and food free
Knowing you don't work and get this free because of your children

priceless lol

ncgirl said...

Someone at imdb.com says Jon and Kate plus Eight are in the November 17 issue of Star magazine. It seems to be about the Hawaii wedding ceremony. There was a quote about the kids acting up during the ceremony. There are photos too.

Baffled said...

Did anyone else think it was odd that 4-year-olds and 7-year-olds were napping?

Anonymous said...

Not to defend KON, which I would NEVER do, but I think Jon's reaction was valid : one of his small children was wandering off by herself in a crowded public place."

I have a question about this part, was the camera still on her and not saying anything to the parents?
I think I finally got it off of my direct tv to tape each episode, I've been trying to figure it out for the longest time, and I'm sure it's something simple..lol Erased all old episodes off.
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KON were arguing and then Jon yells "Get Alexis" or something like that to Kate. The camera then pans to show Alexis walking off by herself. She didn't get far, but IMO, I would have acted the same way. It was very crowded, and she is just a peanut.

tripletsmom said...

baffled,

I think that Kate wanted them to nap so that she wouldn't be bothered by their "noise". I'm starting to think that Kate should never have had so many kids. She can't deal with them all. She might not have had selective reduction in pregnancy, but she sure is having selective reduction now! It's very obvious who her favorites are and the kids are well aware of it too. Mady, for sure, will be the first one with a book titled "Kate Dearest".

PBJ said...

Annon said:
Trip to Hawaii free
Clothing and food free
Knowing you don't work and get this free because of your children

priceless lol
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That is so funny!! I think everyone here should go and join the facebook group on Jon and Kate + 8 there is a few, but join the biggest one and we should all post what we know of them. People are always posting question there on "Where is Aunt Jodi" and such. I think they all need to be informed. The posts will be removed eventually but we should type them there and maybe more fans will start to see Kate in a new light. (Like myself) I was a huge fan, I even used to say I looked up to her being that I have 3 kids under 3. (a set of twins) But now I do not look up to her at all. I think I could teach her a thing or 2 on parenting effectively. Especially when it comes to Maddy.

PBJ said...

Hey SmartyQ, off topic but are you by chance Tiffany Q Smart?? I know of a girl named that, and when I saw your blog name I though maybe...........

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else think it was odd that 4-year-olds and 7-year-olds were napping?

I'm 44 and I nap as often as I can.

I think it needs to be said that it's obvious that the kids are under more stress than kids who lead more normal lives. Traveling is exhausting and with the extra stress of being on camera, it just might be the easiest way for them to escape.

Anonymous said...

"Did anyone else think it was odd that 4-year-olds and 7-year-olds were napping?"

IMO, I dont find the napping of the children to be odd at all, especially considering the circumstances that surround their daily life. However, I did find it odd that when the tups were pre toddler thru toddler age, Kate would place them in their cribs at noon and got them up just before the twins got home from school at 3 30pm. Thats a 3 + hour long nap. Then a 7pm bed time?

I also disagree with Kate's referencing the need for either food or a nap whenever the children begin to 'melt down'. It is quite obvious to this viewer that there are numerous contributing factors to the children's 'melting down' that have absolutely nothing to do with food or a nap.

Anonymous said...

tripletsmom said... I'm starting to think that Kate should never have had so many kids. She can't deal with them all. She might not have had selective reduction in pregnancy, but she sure is having selective reduction now! It's very obvious who her favorites are and the kids are well aware of it too.
Yes! What a perfect analysis!
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highq: OT, am not Tiffany.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else think it was odd that 4-year-olds and 7-year-olds were napping?

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No. Why?

Anonymous said...

"tripletsmom said... I'm starting to think that Kate should never have had so many kids. She can't deal with them all. She might not have had selective reduction in pregnancy, but she sure is having selective reduction now! It's very obvious who her favorites are and the kids are well aware of it too.
Yes! What a perfect analysis!"

ITA, one of the best comments ever. The tups selectively reduced include vomitous Joel, Potty boy Aiden, stubborn Colin. The poor sweet boys deserve better.
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Anonymous said...

It breaks my heart to see how Kate is so obvious with her favorites. I think Joel is a sweet, intelligent, little boy, and Alexis is equally intelligent and funny. How can Kate not see this? If Hannah had run into the bulkhead would Kate have told Hannah God was punishing her?

Kate is beyond blessed with these beautiful children and look at how she is bringing them up. The real kicker is that she thinks she is a wonderful parent!

Anonymous said...

There is a two page color ad for the wedding in the inside cover of the Nov. 17 STAR. Look at Mady and Cara. OMG these two are in serious distress, imo. Cara is not smiling and Mady is looking down on the ground instead of smiling for the camera. btw, no need to buy the magazine, find the longest line.
;-)

Moons in Leo said...

It breaks my heart to see how Kate is so obvious with her favorites. I think Joel is a sweet, intelligent, little boy, and Alexis is equally intelligent and funny. How can Kate not see this? If Hannah had run into the bulkhead would Kate have told Hannah God was punishing her?

Kate is beyond blessed with these beautiful children and look at how she is bringing them up. The real kicker is that she thinks she is a wonderful parent!

11/08/2008 10:01 AM


No, the real kicker is that many other people think she's a wonderful parent.

Anonymous said...

No, the real kicker is that many other people think she's a wonderful parent.
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Yes, the blindness that the sheeple have is shocking.

momforthekids said...

tripletsmom,

I agree with your comment 100 percent. Kate was probably hoping for all girl babies when she was pregnant with the tups. Those little boys try so hard to please her. It's very, very sad. That's why it was good having Jodi and Beth in their lives. Jodi and Beth treated them like a MOM should treat them. You can be sure that those boys miss Jodi and Beth!

Anonymous said...

Many kids fall asleep when they are in the car etc.

My children ages 5&11 do all the time.

Anonymous said...

pinkdiamond611 said...
There is a two page color ad for the wedding in the inside cover of the Nov. 17 STAR. Look at Mady and Cara. OMG these two are in serious distress, imo. Cara is not smiling and Mady is looking down on the ground instead of smiling for the camera. btw, no need to buy the magazine, find the longest line.
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The same two page color ad is in the very front of People Magazazine, too, with "America's Favorite Family" scrawled on it.

Should have read "America's Greediest Family".

Anonymous said...

Kate does like Collin sometimes! Remember, he's "Helper Boy".

From these latest pics, it looks that Leah is not that much "littler" than Hannah and Alexis. Alexis appears to be the tallest. I wonder if "Sassy" is still Alexis' nickname?

Cara does seem to be unhappy. With Mady, you can't ever tell.... I recall the photo-shoot day in Bob & Beth's back yard and seeing Mady turn the hammy poses into grumpy scowls....and back.... in seconds. She seems to be able to turn moods/expressions on and off depending on the situation, so it's hard to tell what her mood is.

Anonymous said...

It's ok that the kids nap from time to time. Most kids do. However, I think it's odd that they are still scheduled naps and they are still a slave to those naps. When the kids are young and your day revolves around naptime that's the way it is. When they are 4 almost 5, stopping your day and putting them in their beds/rooms for naptime (hours) is odd. When my kids were that age there were certainly days when they needed some quiet time on the couch, but I did not put them to bed everyday for 2-3 hours to nap. That's over the top.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know it went about that the Gosselin family were given the title of ,'America's favorite family'. Im sure there are many faithful fans of the show, however, for J & K's PR team or whomever to make such a statement on behalf of the entire American population in an attempt to boost show ratings is rather presumptuous on their part. Being the most watched reality show ON the TLC program line up does not qualify their spokesperson to speak on behalf of the entire American television viewing population. TLC's most watched reality show, maybe, America's favorite family, now that's really stretching. Get over yourself already!

Anonymous said...

Many kids fall asleep when they are in the car etc.

My children ages 5&11 do all the time

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Ha! I'm, 40 and still fall asleep in the car(of course, not when I'm driving LOL) It's actually a family joke.

All kidding aside, I do think these kids are just run-down-ragged from being dragged everywhere . They keep a horrific schedule for preschool/elementary school children.

Anonymous said...

I don't think there's anything wrong with kids napping, especially in the car. My kids (ages 4-10) do it all the time. And there are days when they come home from school and nap too. What's so unusual about this?

momforthekids said...

pinkdiamond611,

I read the Star November 17 article on Kate and Jon also.
I can't believe that Mady was the "maid of honor" and Cara was the "best man". What a joke that is. Mady and Kate don't even get along. Kate and Jon should be on the comedy channel!

Anonymous said...

I don't think there's anything wrong with kids napping, especially in the car. My kids (ages 4-10) do it all the time. And there are days when they come home from school and nap too. What's so unusual about this?"

Sometimes my 10 year old will fall asleep as soon as we hit the road in the car.

Anonymous said...

You kidding me...Open up the People mag that only shows Obama on the cover, and on the other side of the cover is the 2 page spread of Kon and the 8 meal tickets in Hawaii.

Anonymous said...

tripletsmom said...

Why does Kate dress the girls in dresses when they travel? We will be seeing more of the girls underwear if she continues to dress them that way. They should have shorts or pants on. You never know where sexual predators are hanging out!

11/04/2008 9:25 PM

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I Agree completely! And it wouldn't be hard for Kate to find an appropriate pair of light-weight white bike shorts for the girls to wear. I happen to buy 5 or so every school year for my little girl. She finds them very comfortable under her sundresses, and there's no chance of an "I see London, I see France" incident. The kicker, I get them at Gymboree, a store which Kate seems to "shop" at already. Even better-- Gymboree tends to stock bike shorts that match their dresses. I can't see why Kate hasn't caught onto this yet!

Anonymous said...

Three Farmers Said:

If you can't afford to keep your children safe while traveling, they you can't afford to travel. Not restraining those kids while riding in a car or limo is negligent behavior.

11/05/2008 7:46 AM

My husband and I found that certain car rental companies will provide you with rental car seats while you are on holiday if you request them. This saves you the trouble of carting them into/out of the airport. Some car companies will even throw them in for free with the rental! I agree that there is no reason for those children to ride without car seats. When we use a limo to go to the airport, our daughter is in her car seat, even if the driver points out that she doesn't need one. I just wouldn't feel comfortable with her riding "commando" :)

Anonymous said...

It is not even the "gag me with a spoon" factor of the advertisements for the wedding that is making me upset. (it is not my place to judge others). What upsets me, is that Mady and Cara used to be so full of life and joy, and now they can't muster a "fake" smile for the camera. They are acting out. How many shots must have been taken of the family and there is not one where Mady is actually looking at the camera? And Cara is old enough to say "cheese" and "fake it 'till you make it". No, these two did not cooperate, either consciously or subconsciously for a reason. Specifically, most flowergirls, except very young ones know what is expected of her when the photographer is taking pictures, especially 2nd graders.

Anonymous said...

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?81

Here's the email form for Nancy Grace. I write to her on a weekly basis, explaining that I know there are much worse abuse cases out there, but begging her to look into the case of the Gosselin children and the exploitation. I wrote that if she could just take a few minutes of her show to bring light to what these children are going through supporting their parents, just because she had 6 kids at once, and how deplorable it is, it really could help change the laws for reality show children.
If we all write, and keep writing, someone has to open their eyes to how wrong this is.
Since her twins just turned one, and I believe were sick in the beginning, I know once she gets on the subject, she won't let it go until something is done about it, especially knowing about the NICU walk through.

Anonymous said...

IMHO, deep down, Kate knows what they are subjecting their children to is wrong. She tries to overcompensate for this by putting on her mother of the year act. As if being vigilant about gum, germs and limiting TV makes it OK that her 8 children are enduring a life that has been illegal for child actors for many decades.
I gently disagree. Katie doesn't have a deep down; what you sees is what you gets. If you plumbed the depths of Saran Wrap, you'd find it a far more satisfying experience.

I don't know when Katie Irene decided to take up permanent residence in Crazyville because, by the time I was introduced to her, she had already settled in. The rationale for the second round of infertility treatments was curiousity—she wanted to know what it was like to care for only one child. Seems to me that you send one of the twins to stay with, say, Jodi for a week, and you'd know. (Of course that lie was exposed when she announced during an interview that they expected twins again.)

Then there's the dragging of eight children hither, thither and yon. The rationale is Kon's determination that having eight kids isn't going to stop them from doing things that parents with two children do. Flash, Kon, yes it is going to stop you unless you have the money to pay for eight kids, which, without the begging, freebies and hired help, you don't.

Finally, there is life experiences excuse. This one always boggles my mind because I thought life experiences prepared you to live graciously when life seems unkind, to overcome serious blows and move on without bitterness and to cope with the challenges each of us face.

I had no idea that a life experience was skiing or going to WDW. What would test one's mettle while snowboarding? Has one been shortchanged in life experiences if one is an adult before flying in an airplane? Are you shortchanged if you are unsure how much to tip or how to make a hotel reservation? Are these things likely to stunt your emotional growth? Make you less of a fully functional person?

Kon's thought processes are so skewed, and I honestly believe it's going to get worse. Aloha, Hawaii!

tripletsmom said...

I just came from the store and saw the Nov. 17 STAR. Mady and Cara are NOT happy in that picture. I think that they are tired of always having a camera pointed at them. Their body language says it all. The little ones might not know better right now. However, just wait till they are a bit older and all the tups will look unhappy like Mady and Cara.

I never read anything new about Jon and Kate. It's always the same old stuff that everyone knows already. They are really getting boring. Jon and Kate need to STOP exploiting their children before more damage is done to them psychologically.

Anonymous said...

SmartyQ said...
IMHO, deep down, Kate knows what they are subjecting their children to is wrong. She tries to overcompensate for this by putting on her mother of the year act. As if being vigilant about gum, germs and limiting TV makes it OK that her 8 children are enduring a life that has been illegal for child actors for many decades.
I gently disagree. Katie doesn't have a deep down; what you sees is what you gets. If you plumbed the depths of Saran Wrap, you'd find it a far more satisfying experience.

I don't know when Katie Irene decided to take up permanent residence in Crazyville because, by the time I was introduced to her, she had already settled in. The rationale for the second round of infertility treatments was curiousity—she wanted to know what it was like to care for only one child. Seems to me that you send one of the twins to stay with, say, Jodi for a week, and you'd know. (Of course that lie was exposed when she announced during an interview that they expected twins again.)

Then there's the dragging of eight children hither, thither and yon. The rationale is Kon's determination that having eight kids isn't going to stop them from doing things that parents with two children do. Flash, Kon, yes it is going to stop you unless you have the money to pay for eight kids, which, without the begging, freebies and hired help, you don't.

Finally, there is life experiences excuse. This one always boggles my mind because I thought life experiences prepared you to live graciously when life seems unkind, to overcome serious blows and move on without bitterness and to cope with the challenges each of us face.

I had no idea that a life experience was skiing or going to WDW. What would test one's mettle while snowboarding? Has one been shortchanged in life experiences if one is an adult before flying in an airplane? Are you shortchanged if you are unsure how much to tip or how to make a hotel reservation? Are these things likely to stunt your emotional growth? Make you less of a fully functional person?

Kon's thought processes are so skewed, and I honestly believe it's going to get worse. Aloha, Hawaii!

11/09/2008 9:44 AM

I agree 100%. Where the J & K fail miserably in their justification of giving their children as many life experiences as they can, is that they promote and equate life experiences as those experiences that will accomodate a sense or feeling that is 'good' or pleasurable. Life experiences do not occur in the moment, but in the personal and individual reflection that takes place after the fact. A pre conceived idea may tell us how to feel at any given moment, but the life experience of that moment may be interpreted quite differently upon individual reflection. J & K may very well be able speak on behalf of their children as to what constitutes a life experience in the present, however, a time will come when the children will be of the capacity to individually reflect and interpret their life experiences (ie,estrangement from family members, isolation and invasion of privacy ) differently from the criteria of their parents.

Anonymous said...

IMO, viewers are going to be so sick of seeing the preview commericals for the J & K 'two week wedding event' that they wont even tune in to watch. I was watching an episode of Mystery Diagnosis tonight (Sunday) and the commerical ran 6 times within a 40 minute time span!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
ANNON said:
IMO, viewers are going to be so sick of seeing the preview commericals for the J & K 'two week wedding event' that they wont even tune in to watch. I was watching an episode of Mystery Diagnosis tonight (Sunday) and the commercial ran 6 times within a 40 minute time span!!


Actually if your on Facebook and you go to the "fan group"
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6672171198
you will find that the fans LOVE the commercial and stop what they are doing to watch it and they all what to find out what song it has on it and some even say it was so cute it made then "tear up" *YUCK*

Anonymous said...

I just read the description of Kon's upcoming HI ep on my digital cable, "the family finally arrive after several long days of traveling." Are you kidding me? They stopped for a week for a second free vacation in CA. Two free vacations for the price of none!

Ilovemykids said...

I just read the description of Kon's upcoming HI ep on my digital cable, "the family finally arrive after several long days of traveling." Are you kidding me? They stopped for a week for a second free vacation in CA. Two free vacations for the price of none!

Truthfulness is not part of the Figure 8 / Jon and Kate "gig".

btw, I lost my dinner last night when I saw the preview for the wedding show with Jon and Kate starring "lovingly" into each other's eyes.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I just read the description of Kon's upcoming HI ep on my digital cable, "the family finally arrive after several long days of traveling." Are you kidding me? They stopped for a week for a second free vacation in CA. Two free vacations for the price of none!

The description of 'several long days of traveling' doesnt even ring true to what viewers have already seen of their trip in a previous episode? An episode has already aired showing the Gosselin family enjoying a 5 day pre vacation to their actual vacation in Hawaii. Its not like the Gosselin family traveled from PA to Hawaii via horse and buggy. The J & K family so called 'several long days of traveling' consisted of first class travel and accomodations including around the clock preferential treatment.

Moons in Leo said...

In yesterday's NY Times there was a full page ad for tonight's TLC lineup.

The ad featured a picture of the Gosselins in full wedding regalia. Mady and Cara looked decidedly unhappy.

I almost lost my breakfast.

Anonymous said...

Writing to Nancy Grace was a great idea. I love her show and she's really passionate about protecting children.

Anonymous said...

At first, when Kate annoyed me, I would change the channel while she talked. Then, Jon got obnoxious and I tuned him out. After that, the poor kids became zombies and I quit watching altogether, but would read GWOP. In reading GWOP, and seeing how much excess these ungrateful humans have heaped upon them, I slowed on reading GWOP. Now, when I am trying to watch other TLC shows, (you know the ones, where the families still seem to be real and grateful for each other and opportunities) - those commercials for the Gimme, Gimme family are played without let up. Come on TLC, dump them. I may have to give up TLC completely to avoid them. They were cute in the beginning, but due to the never-ending handouts, and their ungrateful attitudes, this is not the same sweet show. Find someone else to make a show about. This would give these poor kids a chance at a life. It doesn't seem like things will get better for them if everything continues as is.

avasmommy said...

Not only is the wedding commercial "vomitous" (as Kate would say) but where are all the kids? This show is about the kids but they are only seen in a couple of shots. This commercial is obviously all about Kate and Jon. It is seriously sad. The part that really makes me cringe is when it says "fall in love again." Most people that I know don't fall in love with threats such as "I'm not talking to you the rest of the trip." How romantic is that...totally makes me fall in love with J&K.....yea, right.

And on the topic of J&K giving back, I agree with 3F. I would much rather see J&K give back to their children than to other charities. Yes, it is admirable to give back to any charity, especially when you make a habit out of it. But for me, I think that this situation would be best if they gave back to the kids. Give them back their privacy, give them back their normal life, give them back their home, give them back all the money they are earning by saving it. This would be a HUGE giving on J&K's part. But they are too greedy to realize what they have taken away from their children.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else fast forward their TIVo or hit the mute button to avoid Kate's last line in the intro, "But it's our life!". I hate how hostle she sounds...

Anonymous said...

Okay to be accurate: "It's R life!"
That drives me insane. It's 'our life'. Our, Our, Our. (Not R)

Anonymous said...

All these advertisements must have cost TLC a bundle. Why the big push? I doubt many readers of the NYTimes are fans of the show.

p.s. the yellow thing that Kate wears in the commercials reminds me of something the Beatles used to wear in their movies.

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