Legos and Safaris- November 3

During a sponsored Hawaii trip, the Gosselins make a stopover in San Diego, California to visit Legoland and the San Diego Zoo. (60 minutes)

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Anonymous said...

Someone got an IPHONE for free..

Ravello said...

Jon said they are starting their vacation. Vacation from what?

MIssC said...

Poor Mady has to hear her mom say her "ugliness" cant be around the other kids...and all her friends will see this episode too. I can not beleive how mean Kate can be!

Anonymous said...

The aquarium wasn't open to the public. How are they not considered the public?

Anonymous said...

The iPhone was already featured at the Orlando conference. I am sure it is very important for people without jobs (that would be you Kate) to have $400 phones.

AnnaK said...

For a germphobe that can't walk on hotel room carpet, I guess walking where hundreds of thousands of feet have walked is fine (i.e. the security check point at the airport).

I second that...vacation from what, your last vacation?

I'm over this show.

Anonymous said...

Have you seen the commercial for "The Wedding Event?" "It's a beautiful life..." Little over-the-top for this show, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

melt down, melt down, melt down

Those must be Kate's favorite words. Who showed Mady how to melt down, Kate?

babeeberry said...

Funny how Kate was most interested in the sea horse exhibit. Must have reminded her of Jon b/c male sea horses are the ones who care for the baby sea horses.

And the commercial for next weeks "Jon and Kate: The event you can not miss" Please, it's just another FREE vacation with some bull crap vow renewal just to trick the public into believing they are in love. Here's an idea. Stay home and figure out why Mady is so unhappy instead of leaving her behind b/c she is crabby. Oh, and stop picking on Aaden b/c of his bowel problems...this kid is gonna be in school someday with a bully or two who is gonna use all that to pick on him!

Kate did learn 2 new words this episode: "Thank You." Can you believe it??

Robin said...

Was it just me, or in every segment where they show the kids sitting on their own, or with a random adult (lego boats) was Hannah always with Kate? I'm sad that Maddy didn't get to go with the other kids to feed the fish, but I think some alone time was what that poor girl needed.

KathyGriffith said...

Didn't get a chance to watch the whole episode, just flipped through. But here are some notes on the brief bits I saw:
~The kids are so used to flying that they have their routine down. Good or bad?
~Jenny is wearing some skimpy shorts there! I'm surprised Queen Bee lets that happen.
~Kate says Colin deserved to have his head smack into the bulkhead because he disobeyed Jenny. Kate states that God builds in punishments .... disobey the nanny and you deserve a painful whack to the head?

Lovely.

Kris said...

The kids are so used to flying that they have their routine down. Good or bad?
~Jenny is wearing some skimpy shorts there! I'm surprised Queen Bee lets that happen.
~Kate says Colin deserved to have his head smack into the bulkhead because he disobeyed Jenny. Kate states that God builds in punishments .... disobey the nanny and you deserve a painful whack to the head?


The kids have the flying thing down- good thing I think. What is wrong with having a child travel at a younger age? Wish that had been the case with me.

Jenny's shorts... what can I say? She's young, cute, let her have her day!

Don't like that thing about the built in punishment, although I have a friend that always says "God punishes!" when things go to heck... kinda a funny blurb when it comes from her. Not funny when it's from Kate!

Anonymous said...

Two thoughts:

1. Poor Jenny. They will work her into the ground and then dispose of her. Does she get a minute of free time? She even has to sleep with the children as she did in North Carolina. Maybe after a long day with Kon, she would appreciate just a moment to breathe. (Nothing against Mady and Cara, but Jenny shouldn't have to work 24 hours a day!)

And...
2. God doles out punishments? Uh oh. I hate to see what's lined up for parents who exploit their kids, destroy their confidence, use people, never give back, and act like ingrates. She is so hateful saying that to the poor kid! These kids get hurt at such an alarming rate. Preschool teachers take care of bigger classes by themselves every day with a much smaller injury ratio.

Anonymous said...

"Sometimes God builds in punishments.."

Nice Kate. Your kid smacks his head when you couldn't be bothered to watch him - because you insisted on being in front to leave the plane leaving the kids behind, and the poor little boy wanted to be with you, not the hired nanny with the inappropriately short shorts and you laugh it off, saying God is punishing him.

The saddest part of this episode is how blase Kon is about what seasoned airplane travelers their four year olds are. These poor kids have nothing resembling a normal life.

JonMinus9 said...

Was it just me or does Jenny seem to keep better track of the kids than Kate? Plus, it seems like the kids are really used to having Jenny there (and mothering them) rather than Kate.

Lonnyswife said...

My husband had to work for 10 years before he was eligible for 4 weeks of vacation. And even then we couldn't ever afford to take all of it anyway!
Jon & Kate have two weeks to NC and two weeks to CA/HI. Not to mention the trips to NY.
For most people this is not reality. I have friends who can't afford a week's vacation and end up spending a week with family just to get out of town!!
To J&K----This is your life NOWbut you would do well to remember the humble beginnings from whence you came. Nobody is impressed with 'new' money mainly for the traits you exhibit.
You both behave like a couple of mega lottery winners, who generally end up back at square one once they've burned through the cash.
I truly hope this does indeed work out for you and your family. But it seems like an awfully big risk to take with 8 youngsters who are counting on your guidance and support (& I don't mean financial) to help them become productive members of society.
The 'take-take-take' and 'gimme more' behavior you as their parents are exhibiting is not going to get any of those kids much further than a swift kick in the heinie in the real world.

jade said...

Scary times are ahead for those poor babies. Jenny does take good care of them and it is so obvious Kate has tuned the kids out except when they are on camera.

Anonymous said...

Paradise Point sure looks nice, website confirms that suites are around five hundred dollars a night. They stayed five days, you know, just to avoid jet lag.

Just your normal average family doing normal average things.

Andrea said...

How many times did they have to explain how they had stopped in San Diego on their way to Hawaii, to get used to the time change, blah blah blah?? After each commercial break, Kon basically repeated themselves, trying to justify their extravagant 5-day "stop" in CA.

So ridiculous. No real family can relate to this show at all.

whatchutalkinboutwillis said...

Did everyone notice the shout out to the place they stayed at in San Diego? Paid for by F8 no doubt.

Anonymous said...

My dad is living with me and was with me when I was watching the show tonight. When Kate says they were staying in SD because they were "invited" by Paradise Point, he laughed so hard and asked how that happened. I told him about a few of the other "invites" they have had and all he said is "what kind of scam are they running?" He has never seen a previous episode, but knew right away those poor kids are not living a normal life.

PAMom said...

Who are these people trying to kid? They've milked the public and jet from place to place. What kind of life is that for the kids? The parents seem awfully selfish.

They've done nothing but run through a parade of volunteers who only wanted to help and have ended up alienating everyone.

Anonymous said...

I also thought blaming God for the whack on Collin's head was really uncalled for. So consoling- not!! I think Kate would of benefited from an accidental whack on her head from God to wake her up and realize how selfish and greedy she is.
Did I see some children chewing gum on the airplane...I thought that it was not allowed.
If makes me wonder why they do not correct their children's poor speaking skills. When ? Alexis says
"Him is an alldegator" I can not help but wonder why they do not repeat what she says in the proper way. She will be in kindergarten next year and should really be using pronouns in the proper way. She will never learn if she is not corrected.
Also at the beach when the two kids were fighting over the cup it amazes me why Jenny or Kate does not show them problem solving skills and suggest that one uses the cup first. It is not rocket science. Both of them were just standing over the kids watching them like drill sargents with no interaction at all.
Kate was so amazed with the seahorses that she missed two of the kids smack each other in the head. That is not proper behavior for a public place and by 4 years old they should be taught that hitting each other is not allowed.
What they will let these kids do for ratings. It is a shame.

Anonymous said...

What's the cameraman's obsession with Jenny's ass?

Anonymous said...

Oh no, they are a normal family.... they just happen to get all access to restricted areas everyplace they (are paid to) go.

Anonymous said...

My heart breaks for Mady and the "ugliness" comment. I am a primary grade teacher and kids these days are getting meaner and meaner towards each other. Private school or not, those poor girls are sure to get some comments said to them. And please, let Cara and Mady dress differently from the little girls and each other. That drives me crazy.

Anonymous said...

I loved the comment the animal lady said...

"Don't you wish YOU had privacy??"
That one really cracked me up.
How ironic.

thesefolksarecrazy said...

this scene broke my heart..
Collin: mommy watch me! (puts his face in the water)
Kate: no do it in deeper water before you hit your head again
(Collin does this and puts his face in again)
Kate: put your whole head in! NO that doesn't count.

that is so sad, he was so proud of himself and all she could do was criticize. i was proud of him!
and i agree with the above post about jenny. two weeks with this family and she can't even be alone at night?
has anyone here ever been or had a nanny? is this typical?

dellerave said...

I checked out the Paradise Point website which listed the rooms around $500, but the rooms where Jon and Kate stayed at were the luxury suites I believe. Their prices were not listed you have to call only to reserve! So those 5 days were expensive!!!

Anonymous said...

If I hear the word 'Oh My' again I think I will puke! I dont think I will EVER use that phrase again!

stopthegosselinsweatshop said...

Did anyone hear that .. Kate wants PRIVACY?? If we dont know her every move how will we know where to send the cash??
CASH -- makes me wonder... how does all this stuff work out on their taxes???

darkdog said...

Where is everyone tonight? Too stunned by all the lies and forced feeling of everything J and K said?

Anonymous said...

Loved when the animal lady asked the kids "don't you like a little privacy now and then?". Hah - those kids have less privacy than those animals she was holding. Did she not notice the tv cameras and sound crew filming every single moment?

Anonymous said...

I couldn't believe it when Kate said "five days" in San Diego. So many families could never afford a five-day trip to San Diego and it was just their "stop off."

While watching the show all I could think of was how incredibly privileged that family is. The red carpet is virtually rolled out for them everywhere! They are like visiting royalty. Those kids will never know what's normal. There's never any interaction with the general public. Private busses, private trams, private condos with their own yard and beach, private tours of the aquarium.

The show is becoming more like the travelogues on the Travel Channel. Follow the family on their world adventures. They are in no way a typical family anymore.

Anonymous said...

I also noticed the improper grammar use by the little kids and they are still difficult to understand. Maybe speech therapy is needed for some? And the fighting---Kate either just ignores it or just watches it happen without any intervention. Interesting how Kate said she likes her privace when they were viewing the animals in the outdoor area with the animal handler. What about her kids' privacy? I guess they don't get a say. Terrible the way Jon remarked about one of the little boy's bowels and the remarks again about Mady's meltdowns.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I wonder how all of these free trips work out on their taxes? Aren't they considered to be gifts and shouldn't they be taxable? Remember when Oprah gave her audience those cars and then they all had to pay the taxes on them, so really weren't so free after all?

Anonymous said...

Also at the beach when the two kids were fighting over the cup it amazes me why Jenny or Kate does not show them problem solving skills and suggest that one uses the cup first. It is not rocket science. Both of them were just standing over the kids watching them like drill sargents with no interaction at all.

_______________________

If you listen, Jenny goes and says here there are a "million" other buckets to play with, trying to problem solve/divert attention it seems. Kate intervenes verbally. I think that when there are CONSTANT squabbles when you have 8 kids..you would have to pick your battles. I do see what you are trying to say, but as I said, you have to pick your battles. There is a lot said for editing, as well.

Anonymous said...

It just killed me to see K&J and crew getting into that beautiful aquarium for yet and other " private" showing that they seem to get where ever they go. Why not give that chance to a deserving family, maybe contact the Make a Wish foundation and offer it to a truly deserving child. Honestly makes me angry. They just keep taking and taking and these places keep giving and giving....enough

Anonymous said...

I've come to the conclusion these two clods don't even like each other. Talk about snarky. When I watched them walk through the airport, bitchin and moanin about who should lead the way, it was clear - staying married is one tough job for J& K. Exhausting even. The irony is comical. Here they are en route to Hawaii to renew their marriage vows, and Jon is vowing not to talk to Kate for the rest of the trip.

It pretty obvious the mucilage of their marriage isn't love for each other, it's about the fame and fortune their kids are bringing them. In the beginning the premise of the show was how two people learn to cope with the triumphs and tribulations of raising eight very young kids in contemporary America. Now it's about how two people turned their private life into a traveling troupe ever venturing into the next promotional ballyhoo. Understandably though, they have to do this because the two of them are absolutely devoid of any talent.

Anonymous said...

just saw the commercial....gag!!

Anonymous said...

I don't think that's true iluveeeyore. I hear the kids often saying, "Jenny I want to sit with you", "Jenny I want to hold your hand"..

How neat was that aquarium??

chicago teacher said...

I really wonder what the time breakdown is for scenes with the children versus Kate moments/close-ups

iluveeyore said...

Thoughts:

I don't think that Jenny is a good nanny at all. She doesn't seem to have any affinity for the kids and they don't seem to have any affinity for her. Perhaps the kids have just learned that it's not a good idea to get too close to anyone. You never know when they'll disappear. (I wonder if Jenny owns any clothes other than short shorts.)

Major lie: Jon announces that "Jenny has her own room".... which she just happens to be sharing with Cara and Mady!!!

They make you walk through airport security without shoes. That's required of everybody. That's why Kate did it.

Many people get upset tummies when they travel and it has nothing to do with organic or non-organic food. Even in the most "civilized" places, it could result from a difference in the microbes in the water. Water is used for cooking, tooth brushing, etc.

Did anyone hear the woman at the aquarium tell the kids not to touch anything? Did anyone happen to notice the kids' hands all over everything? I'm sure they had to go through the whole place and wipe off the fingerprints and mouthprints.

"Him looking at me." I have never heard kids with those kinds of speech problems. I really wonder what it is attributable to.

Anonymous said...

What normal family is able to take off for two week vacations every time you turn around? Oh, right--only those families where neither parent works and they are making a living off of their innocent children! How nice that they were able to spend five days in San Diego in order for the kids to adjust to the time difference more gradually. Whatever, Jon & Kate!! I think the jig is almost up. This show has become a travelogue, so NOT what it used to be in the beginning--a glimpse into the day-to-day life of a family of multiples. It is now a show about multiple trips and freebies, and after the two week extravaganza of the vow renewal, the new house can't be far behind. That should open quite a few eyes and invite LOTS of questions!

porkrind said...

Wasn't this another lovely meeting with the G's? The Jon and Kate "event" is next week. The commercial with Jon and Kate holding hands is creepy. Jon with his big white teeth and Kate wtih her sharpened white fangs..... it's enough for me to sleep with the light on tonight!

Anonymous said...

Poor Aaden! Could Jon have mentioned his bowel problems any more times?! There was no reason to even bring that up, let alone keep talking about it. Kinda cruel, IMO.

Anonymous said...

How nice that they were able to spend five days in San Diego in order for the kids to adjust to the time difference more gradually.

Not to worry. Jon put them on California time, so the adjustment would be less stressful on the trip back. Aahh the blessings of "a crazy life".

Sue said...

Did I hear right? Kate said that the kids have been to CA MANY times.

michelle said...

I'm just flat out tired of this "boring" show. All we see is all the trips/"vacations".

The kids are always adorable. But I'm sure the twins and tups would love to have the cameras off of them for good. Especially when the tups start school and discover that their fellow classmates/friends don't have cameras that follow them too and realize that this is not the "norm".
I just know that when I was in school, you just wanted to fit in and NOT feel "different".
I bet Mady and Cara are feeling this way already.

I just saw a commercial advertizing K-marts' lay-away plan. K-mart really has hired Kate as a sort of spokesperson. She is just not spontaneously(sp) bringing this up when asked how they are managing their Christmas this year with all of their children. Fake. Again, I wanted to try and give Kate the benefit of the doubt and believe that she only brought up the K-mart lay-away because this was truly what she was doing and not just promoting this for K-mart (for money, I'm sure).
Not that this is necessarily wrong for Kate to do, I guess. She is an adult and can choose to do this, but don't pretend that you are NOT doing this. Which is what she is doing. Heck, I don't know if what I said made any sense? Does someone else know what I'm trying to say and agree with me?
It would truly be nice if when Kate is asked about how she handles the Christmas, that she would answer with the truth and not just advertize for K-mart's lay-away plan. But...maybe she is truly doing just that. Trying to give her the benefit of the doubt again.

Anonymous said...

Sue,

I heard that too!

Anonymous said...

Wait....I thought those children never watched t.v. or if they did, it was only their own show. Hmmm, they sure did seem to know who Nemo was and were quite excited about that. Kate is such a liar.

Did anyone notice how much the cameras followed Kate around at the aquarium?! That was so annoying----who really cares what Kate is screeching and excited about, you know?! Could she have been any more obnoxious?!

I agree with the way she treated Collin in the pool.....how hard would it have been for her to say, "Good job, Collin! You're so brave for trying to put your face in!"?!

Jenny doesn't seem to have much personality at all, but maybe it's the way it's edited. Kate probably makes sure that Jenny isn't interesting to us---she wouldn't be able to handle it. I can't WAIT for Jenny's tell-all book! That's one I will buy! (I loved how Jenny was carrying a ton of toys down to the beach, and Kate doesn't lift a finger to help....I dislike that woman more and more every week.)

Barbara said...

I couldn't agree more with Anon 7:38. The cameraman does seem to follow Jenny's butt. Her butt is not that good looking, it's a little big and the shorts are too tight and short.

Kate's behavior with Mady: one moment she is punished for a melt down and the next she is rewarded with a time of feeding the ducks all by herself. How does that help teach her anything?

I'm sick off all the freebies they continually get. They stay in nicer places than most fairly wealthy people stay in and it is hard to see it all and feel any "reality" at all. They are so not needy and for Kate to talk about how she budgets is just a crock of ****!

Anonymous said...

Hey Jon...how many days are you in San Diego?

Anonymous said...

I hate to be nitpicky but, didn't previous posters mention the dangers of kids wearing crocs on escalators? I noticed the kids wore them at the airport. Thankfully, no accidents happened.

CantStopWatchingThisTrainwreck said...

Kate is constantly correcting Jon's grammar. Why doesn't she feel the need to correct her kids' grammar? Just seems a bit backwards. Let the grown man speak any way he wants to. What's it to her? Teach and correct the kids so they will learn.

Also, Kate totally oozes "new money". Despite her shiney expensive exterior, she is still the same old tacky person. Try as you might, Kate, money can't buy class. Nor can it buy parenting skills, as we can plainly see.

And I finally remembered where I had seen her haircut before. Rosie O'Donell had her hair cut like that a whle back for a short time and rec'd lots of negative criticism for it.

Anonymous said...

"We don't want strangers sitting near us on the plane." What??????

How did I not know they would be only 15 minutes away from me? Not that they would have given me a second of their time at Legoland...


Jenny is so dull, I could do a much better job than her.

Anonymous said...

I'm not opposed to gifts, but this show has become non-stop freebies and it's turned me off.

I haven't had a vacation in 6 years and have never had the kind of "vacations" that the gosselin's get for free.

This episode after episode of freebies is turning my stomach.

Anonymous said...

When is the free trip to Korea?

Gigi said...

thesefolksarecrazy said...
and i agree with the above post about jenny. two weeks with this family and she can't even be alone at night?
has anyone here ever been or had a nanny? is this typical?
___________________________
I'm a (part time) nanny and the family I work for has taken me on trips with them. They always make sure I have my own room, even if it means I stay in another hoteldue to theirs being booked up. Plus, the kids aren't allowed in my room without my express permission and I always have time off either during the day or at night. I pity Jenny, not for dealing with eight rambunctious kids almost around-the-clock, but for having to be in the room when Jon and Kate have their tiffs. I can't imagine how uncomfortable that would be.

Alexis and the alligator was priceless- that was my favorite moment of the bloated, freebie filled episode.

Anonymous said...

Kate,

So what if your boy smells like a fish from having fun throwing the "fish food" in the water.

Sue said...

Did you catch the comment by Kate as they were in the paddle boat and she says to the kids on shore "Good-bye, we will never return. One of the little girls stood there crying.

Anonymous said...

Worst. Show. Ever!

Anonymous said...

It would truly be nice if when Kate is asked about how she handles the Christmas, that she would answer with the truth and not just advertize for K-mart's lay-away plan.

Lay away or not, just what more can these kids want for Christmas that you could possibly buy at Kmart. They've pretty much been handed every material thing a kid could want.

Looks like the snake has eaten its own tail at the Gosselin household.

vipersue said...

I can't understand why Jon was laughing so hard when talking about Collin hitting his head when he left the plane. I rewound it a couple of times to see if I was missing something but it seems he thinks it is hysterically funny that Collin hit his head. Anyone know what that's about?

Tami said...

"And the commercial for next weeks "Jon and Kate: The event you can not miss" Please, it's just another FREE vacation with some bull crap vow renewal just to trick the public into believing they are in love."

And when they showed the slow motion, close-up grins they both had, you just know they cut the scene in after filming each of them looking at a pile of money. Nothing else makes these two smile like that.

This show was just hideous. My 10 year old had been wanting to watch it because of his obsession with Legos and desperately wanting to go to Lego Land. Well, they barely feature the PLACE at all, and the kids are barely shown at all. If they are going to be filmed all day, every day, at least show us more of them and less of their obnoxious parents. I KNOW why they don't want to show them--you can tell they are so over this and never behave. You can see Mady running off in every scene and throwing things down and having fits. In the Hawaii picture of them in TV Guide, the twins look absolutely miserable.

I think the worst I have ever seen Kate (and that is saying a lot) is her ridiculously childish rant in the airport and on the couch about how Jon is supposed to lead the way! How could he!? She controls everything and everyone! Now he is supposed to lead? Who could stand this woman? What a sick tirade from a supposed adult mother when she can't even walk in an airport without following behind someone
@@.

WHY is she still hiding her body? On the couch her legs are up on a stool and she is hunched over in a big top, in just about every scene on vacation she is hunched over or concealing herself. What is up with that?

My son and I basically spent the whole show yelling things out, getting disgusted or just laughing at them. I guess that is entertainment in a way, but I somehow think entertainment is supposed to leave you feeling better, and this was just...nasty.

Anonymous said...

I can't understand why Jon was laughing so hard when talking about Collin hitting his head when he left the plane. I rewound it a couple of times to see if I was missing something but it seems he thinks it is hysterically funny that Collin hit his head. Anyone know what that's about?

*****

I noticed and thought it was yet another sick example of him having a laugh at the misfortune of one of his kids. I was at first pleasantly surprised Kate showed concern when it happened. Until the couch scenes where they basically laughed it off and she threw in her comment about punishment from God. Guess she has one giant punishment coming up! I hope they film it when it happens. As for me, I still can't discuss the head injury my son got without tearing up. Never would I laugh about it!

Anonymous said...

It would truly be nice if when Kate is asked about how she handles the Christmas, that she would answer with the truth and not just advertize for K-mart's lay-away plan.
****

I went in KMart the other day because there was a 50% off coupon for a listed toy for one day only. Not only did they not have the toy--or many toys on the shelf at all, but I remembered why I never go to KMart. Of all stores to hawk for, this should be the last one. Guess beggars can't be choosers.

Anonymous said...

Some of the show's worst moments:
Kate telling her kids while she is in the boat that she is never coming back. Kate asking, "What does that say about her?" when talking about Alexis's supposedly horrid behavior on the plane. It says she's 4, dummy! Kate and her 'you should be the one to lead!' comments. Kate saying Jon is off on some boat thing that she didn't really understand..to which we all promptly screamed at the TV, "It's called a paddle boat, dummy!" Both of them going on about Aaden's issue and Kate claiming it had to do with not eating organic. Kate saying that yes she does wish she had privacy, as she lives off the privacy of her own innocent kids. Oh, I could go on and on. This one was horrendously horrendous.

Anonymous said...

Alexis and the alligator was priceless- that was my favorite moment of the bloated, freebie filled episode."

Mine too. I was saying how cute it is that she loves them so much. She was adorable. The show needs this kind of stuff, not the disgustingly greedy parents every 5 seconds.

Anonymous said...

Here are a few things that bothered me about the episode:

Why couldn't the child who got squid juice on himself change his shirt - because then he wouldn't match the others? Change his shirt.

Also, what was with the girls wearing dresses everywhere...On the plane, to Lego Land? I would not enjoy wearing a skirt to an amusement park. You don't see Kate wearing a skirt.

When J&K went off in the paddleboat, Kate said they were never coming back. It might have just been good editing, but Alexis looked horrified! I know Kate is trying to be funny for the audience, but she should consider her children's feelings before speaking occasionally.

When Aaden was in line for the slide at the aquariam, Kate told him it was his turn by saying "Go, Potty Boy." Seriously, these children are going to be humiliated when they look back on these episodes.

Lucy said...

I'm sure if Hannah went flying into that bulkhead instead of Collin there would have been a totally different reaction from Mom and Pa Gosselin. And I doubt they would have been laughing like they did at Collin. Just saying...

Anonymous said...

What about the fact that Kate kept saying the flounder was swimming "sideways"? The flounder is a FLAT fish.. it's not swimming sideways.. grrr.. haha.

And did anyone notice the look Jon and Kate gave each other when they say "We made Alexis ride in the boat with Mady (or Cara - can't remember which of the twins it was)? I haven't really been paying attention, but is she the least favorite or something? Notice the look on the reruns..

Anonymous said...

In response to the lady who asked "Don't you wish you had privacy?", I could have sworn I heard either Cara or Mady say something along the lines of "Yes, but I never get any."

Did anyone else happen to hear this too?

Anonymous said...

As much as I felt sorry for Mady and how clueless Kate is, I was actually wishing that ALL the children would throw a temper tantrum at the same time. There are 8 children who need a day of not working. Mady is not the only one. However, if John and Kate couldn't have those 6 little kids buying camera time and freebies for them, I shudder to think what those freeloaders, I mean parents, would do to them.

Just a horrible situation for them.

Those children are so out of control I feel sorry for poor Jenny having to be with them 24/7. I sure hope TLC is paying her very, very well for having to deal with that many uncontrollable children at the same time. If I were her, I'd be pulling my hair out even before I had to share a bedroom with 2 of them.

Speaking of the wedding, my mother and I were in the grocery store and I showed her the ad for their wedding episode, which I think was on the back of the TV Guide. First thing she noticed was how mad poor Maddy looked in the picture. I pointed out that Cara looked miserable too.

As out of control as these children are growing up to be, I truly feel sorry for them because I know they don't know any better because they have no adult supervision who isn't looking at them with dollar signs in their eyes.

quinn said...

andrea said "How many times did they have to explain how they had stopped in San Diego on their way to Hawaii, to get used to the time change, blah blah blah?? After each commercial break, Kon basically repeated themselves, trying to justify their extravagant 5-day "stop" in CA."

I know it was like deja vu every time. Like you need a 5 day stop in CA for your kids to get adjusted to the time. That's almost as funny as Kon using the ultra-cool and new Kmart layaway.

Wow TLC sure does think the viewers are stupid huh?

Anonymous said...

Jon was miserable at Legoland - until the family was taken behind the scenes of the new aquarium exhibit and given a private preview. The adults are now so spoiled that it isn't enough that they and their offspring are being treated to a day at an amusement park. They have to receive preferential treatment. And the children still need to be coaxed into a perfunctory, unenthusiastic "thank you." I had the feeling Kon had been told that the Legoland freebie didn't include food or souvenirs and, therefore, they couldn't work up much enthusiasm.

steph said...

whatchutalkinboutwillis said...
Did everyone notice the shout out to the place they stayed at in San Diego? Paid for by F8 no doubt.
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Usually the film companies get the resorts to donate the use of their facilities in return for 'credits' at the end of the show; hoping it will bring them more business after being seen on a tv show. Same thing for the amusement parks they visited.

Be sure to look closely at the end of the 'wedding' shows to see who gave them free resorts, tours, meals, etc,etc.........

highQ said...

Anonymous said...
Who are these people trying to kid? They've milked the public and jet from place to place. What kind of life is that for the kids?
*Well, I bet is is a great life for them. At this point in time anyway, who knows how it will pan out for them in the future.

Anonymous said...
I loved the comment the animal lady said...
"Don't you wish YOU had privacy??"
That one really cracked me up.
How ironic
*Odd hey, its like she maybe reads this stuff or thinks its unhealthy also. Hmmm...

Anonymous said...
I also thought blaming God for the whack on Collin's head was really uncalled for. So consoling- not!! I think Kate would of benefited from an accidental whack on her head from God to wake her up and realize how selfish and greedy she is. Did I see some children chewing gum on the airplane...I thought that it was not allowed.
*I never let me 3 kids have gum, UNLESS we are on a plane. It is necessary because of the ears popping. Come on now, we can criticize her for EVERYTHING.
Same ANON said: It makes me wonder why they do not correct their children's poor speaking skills. When ? Alexis says
"Him is an alldegator"
*I noticed tonight she actually said "alligator".

Anonymous said...
Wait....I thought those children never watched t.v. or if they did, it was only their own show. Hmmm, they sure did seem to know who Nemo was and were quite excited about that. Kate is such a liar.
Kate is screeching and excited about, you know?! Could she have been any more obnoxious?!
*Remember she said they watch movies in the van a lot because they don't watch TV at home.
And about Kate being obnoxious, it seemed like she was just trying to be "excited" for the kids, and sound fun and be engaging.


I WAS a big fan, and I do still enjoy it somewhat but now I am so not interested in the show if this is how it is going to before ever now, watching them go to empty looking theme parks and such. I find when I watch it now, I am watching with a different mind frame and I notice all the negatives that I never did before.

whenwillitend said...

All those free clothes and Joel couldn't change his supposed stinky shirt?

Kate probably wanted them all to match and for the show to have continuity.

Priorities.

Anonymous said...

A couple of things stood out to me in this episode:

1. Jon and Kate obviously don't know their kids. Kate blamed Alexis' potty breaks on her wanting to get up and walk around and not knowing how to say it. But when they flew to Utah, Alexis asked Beth if they could "take a walk" while they were delayed. Kate should just stick to her usual "low blood sugar" excuse for everything.

2. So God was punishing Collin for running away from Jenny? Maybe God should punish Kate for constantly putting her kids in Crocs in the first place. No wonder he fell.

3. Please, PLEASE stop talking about your kids' bowel movements on TV. You are setting them up for a lot of ridicule in school.

4. "Jenny has her own room." Hmm. I guess the twin eight year-olds were just part of the room's accommodations, then.

5. "Don't you wish you had some privacy once in a while?" I would have laughed if it weren't so painfully true.

highondegrassi said...

"Did you catch the comment by Kate as they were in the paddle boat and she says to the kids on shore "Good-bye, we will never return. One of the little girls stood there crying."

What kind of mother says something like that to her child? She is seriously disturbed.

Poor Mady, I guess money is more important than your child's sanity. That kid has more issues than I care to delve into. Couldn't Kate think of another word besides "ugliness"? She sure is just one MEAN Mom...and wife!

Anonymous said...

The airport spat was pretty stupid. How hard can it be to figure out what the flight is and where it's departing from? Even the "directionally-challenged" can figure that out - if they couldn't, they wouldn't be able to fly at all (and thus end up facing a fate like that of the "man on the MTA"). I will give Jon credit for finally telling Kate to go stuff it.

I don't quite remember why Kate was getting so animated about the baby sharks in the hotel pond, but (for a moment) I was hoping a whale would jump out of the water and swallow her.

Anonymous said...

Thesefolks:
Yes, it's typical of self-serving spoiled women.
I remember reading the Nanny Diaries a few years ago.
Most of the stories are about mothers who are only concerned about themselves and if it weren't for the nannies the kids would basically be neglected.
The moms are all about social activities, travel and shopping.
They are gone a lot, too.
I was flipping channels last night, so only saw bits and pieces. However, I noticed that Kate is "acting" more civilized in certain respects. (DAMAGE control) and said Thank You twice at the end. Fresh from reading our online comments. She is making an effort to tone it down and could even fool new viewers. But it's not her normal way, and she will slip right back soon. Terrible to tell your kid at the shore that you're never coming back. This woman needs a brain transplant!

diane said...

I totally agree about the comments re: Collin putting his face in the water. That was almost unbearable to watch. This little boy is so excited to show his mommy what he can do and she criticized it not once, but twice! And then right after that you hear a Jon voiceover saying how the boys wouldnt even get in the water earlier in the summer. That should make it even MORE of a big deal for her to react positively to. But no. Not Kate.

Also, re: Jenny rooming with Mady and Cara. At first I was thinking it was a bit unfair to not give Jenny a minute to herself. Then I got to thinking, how ecstatic must Mady and Cara have been? Not only did they get away from their brothers and sisters, but also the parents for a brief time. I bet they loved every minute of it.

One thing that became really clear to me last night is the way Kate talks so inappropriately in front of the kids. In the airport, with the whole "who is in the lead" argument, her tone of voice was SO incredibly frantic and worried. Does she not realize that kids pick up on that? You wonder why they act out? It's because they are constantly in a state of panic/worry due to their mother's tone of voice and reactions to things. She needs a lesson on how to stay calm.

I think this episode did it for me. I will no longer be watching the show. I just cannot stand how mean they both are anymore. It is pathetic.

Anonymous said...

This show is getting ridiculous. Pimping out your kids so that they can have "life experiences". Brilliant!! Way to go J&K! Be sure to keep the thearpy sessions hush, hush in about 10 years.

"distractionary items" said...

Gentle Posters:
Please comment if you agree. The so called "Wedding Month" (they promoted it as such but not on every ad) is a S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G out of what could have been covered in a one hour epi! Although they have been showing some more cute scenes of the kids, the couch confessionals are WAY too drawn out and repetitious. My daughter and I were all set for "the renewal of vows". This epi was boring! Just WHEN is this big "Wedding Event" going to finally be shown?

nancy019 said...

I could not bring myself to watch, my early New Years resolution is not to watch KON in action. Their greed and ignorance toward their children make me literally ill. Let's hope they go to the KonPound and hide out, so Kate can get her privacy and we can get some rest from this family's bizarre attempt at being a "normal family".

Anonymous said...

I was so bored. I didn't watch at all. I did watch Little People Big World. Gotta love that show. They are so likeable and thankful and so non-hollywood.
Can't stand the G's show. Jon and his "heehee after all we're the #1 show on TLC".

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else catch the "privacy" comment? When the zoo woman asked the kids if they liked having privacy, Kate looked right at the camera and said "Yes, yes we do". It sounded personal!

Corinne said...

Honestly, this was the first week I haven't watched it - and I really don't miss Kate's constant negativity. Sounds like I didn't miss much! So, TLC, the "event I cannot miss" is coming up next week? Sorry, I'll pass.

Anonymous said...

This reality show has run its course. There exists absolutely zero premise to the show. Unless however, one finds entertainment in watching two hypocritical scam artists exploit their children from one end of the country to the other. The children are obviously so over it, have no idea if they are coming or going, and in desperate need of consistency and routine in their lives.

babeeberry said...

I'm wondering if while they were in San Diego they had their tattoo's removed? I know they were "mentioning" how much they didn't like them a couple episodes back so it makes sense now that someone offered them free tattoo removal. Who knew begging was such a lucrative business.

Anonymous said...

Enough talk about Jenny and her butt. She's young, she's cute but this site isn't for commenting, degrading, or obsessing about someone's body parts. I know her, mainly through people, and she is a great person. I don't think she likes the cameras. Editing plays a big role on how she comes off. She has a lot of personality, it would not be the most comfortable position to be in, IMO.

Some favorite moments:
definitely Alexis outside the bathroom, and how about when Aaden calls the animal he takes a ride on in the pool, he says "I'mm onnn a shh-whale"..I think its a dolphin..too cute..

Sara said...

I can't believe Kate refers to Jenny as her "helper". MY "helpers" keep an eye on my kids while I get stuff done or go to grab something really quick. JENNY, on the other hand, is stuck hauling toys around and doing chores while Kate stands there and does nothing.

When they were down by the water, "helper Jenny" dragged out all the water toys while Kate did nothing but give commentary to the camera. I would count myself ungrateful if I hired someone to be my kids' nanny but instead used them as a packmule so I didn't have to do all those "distasteful" things that come with having children.

AnnaK said...

eeyore~

They make you walk through security without shoes, not without socks. That was my point.

Anonymous said...

More special treatment for this underserving family. I think Jon was ticked off that they didnt have Legoland cleared out for them.

Whats with the private place to stay and beach? These kids are going to have a rude awakening when the gravy train comes to a stop. Jon and Kate too for that matter.
Whats with Colin always hitting Jenny? Its not the first time.

Savannah said...

I half-heartedly watched last night's episode. Personally, it's just not the same nor will it ever be again IMO.
What's so sad is to think that this MAY be the best years of the Gosselin children's life. At least they are getting to explore the world in which they live at an early age. Also, just a thought....since J&K are showing them the way of the world in which people are disposable-do you think that one day they will "use" people to their advantage as well? It would be very easy to do because everyone already feels sorry for them having J&K for parents. I'm sure that a few of the kids will continue the cycle by using all this to their advantage. ?? I should hope not, but you never know.
I've also noticed that J&K have changed. Of course it was obvious (IMO)from the beginning they are not happy together as a couple. I hate to see Cara cry-she used to be so happy-go-lucky. Mady just blows off steam but poor Cara gets hurt deeply-you can tell. I know because I'm the same way. I hope she will be alright. All the kids are just innocent little victims. They deserve better than this. I just hope that it will be over soon if that's what it takes for them to live happy productive lives. Surely J&K should have enough money to handle the financial demands of raising their children by now.

HW said...

I must say the mean remarks about Jenny concern me. She's a young girl trying to make a living in a difficult job. I think we should leave Jenny alone as she's probably more concerned about the Gosselin children than their own parents. She may be their only close ally at the moment.

I've always been bothered by Kate's over-the-top reactions when the kids get hurt or have a diaper blow out (earlier episodes) She's a nurse, for pete's sake! Shouldn't she be calm in an emergency. Most mothers know to keep their concerns hidden so the child doesn't get scared. The way she gasped and yelled when Collin hit his head was typical but unnecessary.

I felt really bad for Mady last night, especially when Kate was trying to protect the others from her ugliness rubbing off on them. What a horrible thing to hear your mother say on television. And the boats at Lego Land? I think Mady was embarrassed that she was being filmed while doing something that she wasn't very good at. Who of us would want that? That girl cannot catch a break.

When Jon said he was sick of airplane bathrooms, I was really ticked off. THEN STOP GOING ON TRIPS!!! And when Kate went off on him for not leading in the airport "You are supposed to be the leader of our family...." That showed a huge amount of insecurity. If she was uncomfortable leading the way, could she not have quietly said to him "I'm not sure where to go, could you lead the way and I'll take over with the kids?" And then she puts her horrid behavior off on him again by saying, "that's why you should lead, so I don't get all upset, blah, blah, blah"

DasMaedchen said...

I was amazed by how many unkind things Jon and Kate could say to or about their children in 60 minutes or less. I don't think they are at all mature enough to have ONE child, let alone eight. They don't act like parents, they act like teenage babysitters or camp counselors.

No, actually. Teenage babysitters and camp counselors are generally mature enough to know that you should treat children with basic kindness, decency, and respect for them as little human beings.

Making fun of them, belittling, ignoring them, along with Kate's knack for VERY POOR WORD CHOICES (Talking about Mady's 'ugliness' ruining everything, instead of simply saying 'her temper tantrums' or better yet- saying nothing and actually DEALING WITH HER CHILD HERSELF) - make it so very clear that Jon and Kate are terrible parents.

Sure, they are "providing", thanks to TLC and Figure 8, but they are not effectively parenting.

They are raising 8 maladjusted and unfortunately spoiled children, who will have a very difficult time adjusting to the real world, if they ever get in it.

It is a shame to shape 8 young lives in such a way. The kids are adorable and their parents are doing them such a disservice.

Anonymous said...

"Poor Mady has to hear her mom say her "ugliness" cant be around the other kids...and all her friends will see this episode too. I can not beleive how mean Kate can be!"

I haven't been watching most of the shows, it's a commercial filler for me, watching when commercials are on other shows I'm watching, but I did catch this part. It bothers me that KON never tries to find out the reasons why Mady is upset, just that it's "Just Mady". They never get down on her level and explain that things aren't right to do, how to act, how do they expect her to learn if they never teach her. I also think that if she was doing this, they would show it. I hope she wasn't on the show much the rest of the time.

Jim S said...

Kate's reaction to Collin smacking his head reminded me of a "Little Rascals" short where a little girl, who'd been throwing pots, pans and flour around a kitchen, falls off a rather high stool and Spanky says "That's what you get for being smart."

That line never failed to crack me up, but it was coming out of the mouth of a four-year-old playing babysitter. Hearing "God doles out punishments" coming out of your mother,however, was ten million kinds of wrong.

Anonymous said...

This SD episode was the worst! I agree with what has already been said and then some. I was bored as well with more of the same and focused on Kate the shrew's hair style and color. It is really grotesque! Doesn't she have dresser/makeup/hair people to make style decisions?
I also want to add that I watched the Duggars after this show. I think that they are a strange crew as well, but, this time, they had a wonderful family reunion with grandparents, cousins, aunts, and uncles. At least this is normal, real life!

Anonymous said...

Did you catch the comment by Kate as they were in the paddle boat and she says to the kids on shore "Good-bye, we will never return. One of the little girls stood there crying
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Not trying to defend Kate here, but I would guess that the little girl was crying because she wasnt the one chosen to go on that particular ride.

Anonymous said...

What I noticed in 'this episode of J&K+8': Kate was 'exhausted' about 5 minutes into the episode, the leader/follower argument in the airport was stupidly stupid, the whole 'God punishes' thing after Colin bumped his head was horrendously horrendous, (agree 100% with the posters who are wondering what sort of punishment God has in mind for Kate), discussing Aaden's belly/bowel problems (shades of Colin's problem in the furniture store while buying beds) was absolutely inexcusable (in the last episode, Aaaden was seen dumping his pull-up into the trash, I feel so sorry for the little guy), and lastly, Kate saying 'NEAT' about a million times (I'm purposely using her estimation abilities) You'd think she could use a few bucks of the thousands they have (thanks to their kids) and buy a thesaurus, for goodness sake!

Anonymous said...

With all this talk about Jenny I was thinking she probably reads this. I'm sure she has heard about the negative publicity. I wonder what her take is on it all. You have to really want to be on tv or something to agree to do all these things for these people, and probably move with them as well.

Lizzie said...

My take on this particular episode:

1. I'm sure Jon would not mind taking the lead in the airport if Kate would just shut up and trust him to get them where they need to be. If she's constantly on his heals it shows IMO that she has no confidence in him.

2. Alexis is a doll. She has the most personality of any of the kids. She would be my pick every time. It disgusts me the way Kate pawns her off to others. She is LAZY plain and simple. Heaven forbid she get up and take her daughter for a walk to work off some steam.

3. Kate is so not involved with her kids. She can't even enjoy the pool with them. It wasn't deep. She doesn't need to know how to swim. I love splashing around playing in the pool with my family. She is missing out on so much. Who cares if your hair gets wet??

4. If you know your kids are going to be feeding fish, why oh why would they be dressed in clothes they could not get dirty?? Do they have no play clothes at all? They could have gone in their bathing suits. NO, Kate loves the opportunity to always wreck a potentially good time.

5. She seems to be totally uptight around Jenny. They don't seem to have an easy going relationship. I feel sorry for Jenny. She must feel the tension and I'm sure she always wondering when the wrath of Kate is going to strike her.

6. Oh yeah, and the Collin thing. I don't care if my child is misbehaving when he hurts himself. A mother's instinct is to console and love a hurt child. She does not have one maternal instinct in her body (except maybe for Hannah).

All in all I don't see much damage control going on. She's getting worse and worse in my opinion.

Kathy said...

I used to be a fan of the show too, but not anymore. A few months ago is when i started to get a little turned off with Kate's behavior and the greediness.

I guess my last straw was when she left poor Collin on the potty and turned off the lights and left the room! I was horrified! Being a mother myself, I just couldn't imagine leaving my little boy on the potty by himself in the dark! Not to mention gumgate and cupcakegate! I too notice the favoritism towards the girls.

Hanna is a Maddy in the making by the way. I think Hanna is the only child Kate likes.

I do love the children but i gave up watching the show a while back. Makes me sick to watch. I just read here.

One thing I would like to mention. It is in regards to my daughter but it relates to the gosselin kids.

When my daughter was about 4 she had a "most embarrassing moment, where she got hung up on a fence with the back of her dress while trying to jump down . It was so funny, but devastating to her. I cannot tell anyone about the incident to this day and she is 15 years old! She is still embarrassed about it and if i start to try to tell the story, even to my parents, her grandparents, she has a fit and begins to cry!

Now I can't imagine how the poor gosselin kids are going to feel when they get older because of how a embarrassing moment affected my own daughter.

Jon and Kate are the most greedy, self serving narcissists I have ever seen! and I wont watch that train wreck ever again!!!

I do love the Rolloffs and I like the Duggars though.

Anonymous said...

My son isn't even a bully or a mean kid, but when he saw Mady have yet another fit (he is around her age and can't believe how they act), he imitated it and laughed. I can imagine how the kids in her school or on her bus react when they see the shows. I am pretty sure that even the parents who have kids in school with the 'tups watch the show. I know I would watch a show if someone in my kid's class was featured. So I can imagine the taunts she gets about her life. No wonder they are miserable. And yes, even little kids would make fun of another kid if his parents constantly talked about him having diarrhea, etc. I'm sure they would pick up on it if other people in the room discussed it while watching the show. It's horrible.

Anonymous said...

"That is not proper behavior for a public place and by 4 years old they should be taught that hitting each other is not allowed."

My theory on this is that almost their entire lives, they've been doing these things in front of the production crew (Paul Petersen, and his comment about not being Meercat Manor?) The shows about wildlife, they don't step in, let nature take it's course, unfortunatly the crew and family is to stupid to realize that this doesn't work in children.
I've also been watching some reality award shows. None of the people that win, and these are adults, seem very proud of their actions, although they do these shows over and over, I think it's because it's easy money, and they probably can't get jobs elsewhere. I hope this isn't the future of the Gosselin kids. If Kate and Jon want to be embarassed like that, that's their choice, but the kids don't have that same luxery, and Kate and Jon should be embarassed.
IIRC they said there wasn't a manual on raising multiple multiples, I hope that they don't think that their show is just that. I don't usually like to snark on the parenting skills, as bad as they are, but I really hope the teachers at the school (when they go) notice the problems and step in. Just from reading the comments, it doesn't look like this was a good episode.
I think that as soon as Madi is of age, she'll get imancipated, and take the little ones with her, if this continues that long, I hope she does.

Anonymous said...

How old is Helper Jenny? Has anyone else noticed how the kids will sometimes hit and punch on her? I noticed in one episode where Jenny was putting the kids in their carseats-which by the way used to be Jon's job, huh?-but anyway, Alexis smacks at Jenny. The thing that gets me is the look on Alexis's face. Then there's another scene, the trip to NC I believe, where Alexis is pulling away and smacking at Jenny again. And then of course, the struggle with Collin on the plane. I just wonder what Jenny's mother thinks of her daughter being around such negative people such as Jon and Kate? I mean, hopefully Jenny doesn't admire these two fruitcakes. And last but not least, I hope Jenny treats this more as a job rather than get too emotionally attached to the children. We all know what happens to anyone who becomes bonded with the Gosselin kids. Such a shame if they do get rid of her, especially for Mady and Cara because I think they consider her as a big sister. And yes, quite possibly, a Mother. I like Jenny. She seems like a sweet girl. And a Saint to put up with Kate's abusive treatment.

Anonymous said...

I had to chuckle at the comment Kate made about Aaden having an upset stomach simply because he wasn't eating ORGANIC food. Give me a break!!

ashley said...

I was so angry when the Gosselins got to go to the aquarium before it was even open, although I guess its better for the lowly general public that they didnt have to be there with all the cameras and Kates shrill voice.
The commercial for the wedding event is pretty over the top. I mean come on the Gosselin event you cant miss! What a joke, that statement was a huge contributing factor that made me decide not to watch. Besides that its all phony anyways.
I dont know any other 4 year old that knows what to do at an air port. Yes some of them fly once a year or so but for a four year old to remember what to do they must be flying pretty frequently.
Who wants to bet that Jenny is gone soon, (I dont think what happened was her fault but Kate will be angry) not only because she cant control the kids (according to Kate), but also because of the skimpy cloths. I wouldnt ever wear those shorts but especially not on TV.
Did any one notice how on the airplane one of the little girls said she had to pee and was shown with her dress up and holding places no camera should see! Kate didnt even care that thousands of people saw her little girls underpants! I think that was just wrong.
Oh and I thought Jon was from Korea, he said he is half Korean and the kids are a quarter Korean, I may be wrong but I thought people from Hawaii were Hawaiian.
Im also beginning to wonder if Kate is preggers, the couch interview was Kate sat with her belly hiding and in the commercial advertising the wedding she looks a little wider than before, although it could just be that nasty yellow jacket.
Ok this is my finally statement but I dont think being sandwiched between two great shows is doing Kate any good. I love LPBW and the Duggars are awesome in their own way. They make Kate look even worse than before.

Wow I didnt realize how long that is, sorry.

LC said...

Anonymous said...
Also at the beach when the two kids were fighting over the cup it amazes me why Jenny or Kate does not show them problem solving skills and suggest that one uses the cup first. It is not rocket science. Both of them were just standing over the kids watching them like drill sargents with no interaction at all.

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If you listen, Jenny goes and says here there are a "million" other buckets to play with, trying to problem solve/divert attention it seems. Kate intervenes verbally. I think that when there are CONSTANT squabbles when you have 8 kids..you would have to pick your battles. I do see what you are trying to say, but as I said, you have to pick your battles. There is a lot said for editing, as well.

11/03/2008 8:01 PM

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But there was only 2 kids fighting over the bucket, not 8. Should have been handled differently IMO!

Lucy said...

There's alot to talk about on this episode but I thought NOT dealing with Mady at that moment and just letting her stay behind was wrong. Of course Hannah got to ride in the boat, and Aaden only eats organic food and if not he gets diarrhea - please. My goodness, whatever is this mother going to do when they go to school and they have class & holiday parties and they eat the food that other parents bring in? The excuses she uses are so lame and unrealistic. She is really setting up these kids for failure and the one she favors the most, Hannah, will be the one who will suffer the most, with all the others surely to follow.

Sharla said...

I enjoyed seeing San Diego featured and I have to give Kate credit that she had many positive things to say about the resort where they stayed and the attractions that they showed in the episode. She did have the kids say thank you also.

killy said...

I dont know if this has been said yet, but I just moved to San Diego about 4 months ago. We live about 10 minutes from Legoland and my husband and I thought it would be cool to see, until we found out the tickets are $60!!! For kids I believe 3-12 they are $50. So IF, we know they didnt, but IF they would have paid for admission, it would have could over $500! Ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

In response to the lady who asked "Don't you wish you had privacy?", I could have sworn I heard either Cara or Mady say something along the lines of "Yes, but I never get any."

Did anyone else happen to hear this too?


Yes! It was Mady, in her wonderful cut-the-crap-Kate tone of voice, after Kate said she would love some privacy! Me and my BF both cheered! BTW to whoever said Jenny's body isn't that great, please tell my BF because his eyes were popping out of his head whenever she was on camera. He said he doesn't know how Kate hasn't stung her to death yet.

Anonymous said...

We have stayed at Paradise Point and the Suites in prime season are well over 1000.00 a night!

Anonymous said...

While I feel for all 8 kids in this dysfunctional family, Mady is the one I worry about the most...I have posted previously about how very badly she needs to be taught and helped with how to handle her feelings, and while reading the posts on this episode, (BTW, great comments, as always) something jumped out at me (thanks hw)...how can Mady be taught how to deal with her feelings when Kate obviously has no clue on how to handle her own feelings?? Kate's over the top reactions to everyday events, scaring the kids and causing them to be anxious (or 'nervous' as I believe Alexis says a few episodes back) does not help kids with their feelings and how to react to situations...Kate is a horrendously horrendous role model for her kids, and maybe that's why Mady and Cara seem to latch onto other women (like Beth, Sara Snow, and Jenny, to some extent) who are more relaxed and calm...just my opinion...

Anonymous said...

At Legoland in the "closed" exhibit, Jon says, "nice that we are the VERY first people to use it, we are breaking it is sextuplet style". Nice he forgot that his other two children were also there, understandable how he forgets since Maddy and Cara have done nothing for their financial security and endless vacations, next time you should just really leave them at home since we all know it is all about the six little money bags (and Kate). I loath the show. I actually get tense while it is on and am officially D-O-N-E with it.

Aya said...

Just because you are born IN Hawaii doesn't make you Hawaiian.

These episodes are just getting worse and worse. I shake my head and just try to bite my tongue while watching....Geesh

Anonymous said...

I thought it was funny when Kate said that one of the reasons they were doing a lay-over in California was because the kids are used to traveling to CA frequently....Well, I'm sure glad these "poor" kids get to go to CA, they don't travel nearly as much as they should = )

trinityella said...

Dont know if this has already been said, but did you notice at the Wild Animal Park when they got to pet the animals, the woman showing the animals said that the animal she was holding likes to hide, and the kids asked why, and she said because they want some privacy, don't you like privacy? And Kate practically screams yes we do and looks straight at the camera! Well then Kate why don't you stop the dang show already and get the privacy you want so bad and the kids DESERVE!!! She is such a phony! How can she think people are stupid enough to believe her???

Anonymous said...

The whole appeal with the show before was that they were doing everyday events (going to the cornmaze, going christmas and grocercy shopping, ect...) just with the added humor of having an x-large family. Now, the show is a joke. The everyday events have been replaced with FREE trips to Hawaii, Utah and Disney World, shootings for magazine covers and watching them get cosmetic procedures (teeth whitening, hair plugs). The show has definitely "jumped the shark". I am no longer a fan.

Anonymous said...

However, I noticed that Kate is "acting" more civilized in certain respects. (DAMAGE control) and said Thank You twice at the end. Fresh from reading our online comments. She is making an effort to tone it down and could even fool new viewers. But it's not her normal way, and she will slip right back soon. Terrible to tell your kid at the shore that you're never coming back. This woman needs a brain transplant!

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ITA with this! Remember Hawaii was filmed during the end of summer time before the tups and twins went back to school. So, seeing this episode Kate had made some improvements but was still into her old ways. The newer episodes (Tups going to school, Philies game, etc) definately have dmage control written all over them. It won't last long though.

Anonymous said...

I don't know what ride they had been on, but did anyone notice when they were gathering the kids up to leave the area they noticed Alexis missing? She was going in another direction and Kate ran to get her. This poor child is left on her own so much (basement) that she entertains herself and doesn't think she has to be with the rest of the kids. No wonder she just wondered off. I love all the children but I really have a place in my heart for Alexis. They talk about her and make remarks like she is their worst nightmare. Maybe she just needs a little attention. When they talk about the little boys they say the boys but the litte girls are talked about separately as in Alexis and then Hannah and Leah together.

Amy said...

I cannot watch this show anymore after the ridiculous display of greed and limitless freebies. My husband has just retired after 21 years in the Army and many trips to Iraq, as well as moving every 2 years for the family (we have 2 kids). The Army just messed up our last paycheck and it will be delayed by 2 weeks. It's scary for us right now. And to see Kon get so very much just HANDED to them in ADDITION to a very hefty salary and what is THEIR contribution to society?? Popping out a mess of kids via a doctor's artificial intervention. Perhap I'm bitter. For sure, I'm done.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Wait....I thought those children never watched t.v. or if they did, it was only their own show. Hmmm, they sure did seem to know who Nemo was and were quite excited about that. Kate is such a liar."

Remember they went to Disney. They know who Nemo is.

highondegrassi said...
"Did you catch the comment by Kate as they were in the paddle boat and she says to the kids on shore "Good-bye, we will never return. One of the little girls stood there crying."

What kind of mother says something like that to her child? She is seriously disturbed. "

That was an obvious edit of TLC. Leah was crying becasue she wanted to be on that boat, not because Kate said that.

Anonymous said...

Five days is not a "layover." Five days is a vacation, planned so Paradise Point, Legoland, and San Diego Wild Animal Park could reap some publicity in exchange for extending generous freebies to the Gosselins.

By the way, Legoland is not an hour from Mission Bay where the Gosselins were staying. It's maybe 30 minutes. Those kids, however, were zonked out on the way up there, suggesting they were badly in need of a long nap - not an amusement park outing.

By the time they hit the animal park, the entire family looked beat. I guess they needed to go to Hawaii not only so Kon could renew their vows for November "sweeps" ratings, but also because they needed a vacation to recover from their vacation.

Jon and Kate have managed to take an interesting reality show premise - the raising of two sets of multiples - and turn it into an endless game of "Who'll be the next sucker to give us free stuff?" It's about time that this gravy train ended and these people were brought back down to reality.

Annie8575 said...

Okay- I've stopped watching this show because I just can't stand how angry I get at these two knuckleheads and their eight free meal tickets! What I do watch is these boards...and I have to agree with whoever mentioned the kids' speech and language difficulties. I'm a special education teacher, and I can't help but wonder WHY OH WHY have these children never been screened for speech disabilities??? Most children with these kind of issues have at least been screened by early childhood interventionists... why not the Gosselin kids? Yet another example of how these kids are neglected for the sake of ratings. Let me see- get my children screened for disabilities, or take them out of school so we can go to Hawaii? The choice should be OBVIOUS.

Anonymous said...

I have to say that with regard to the little girl's underpants being shown when she needed to go potty, one of my kids immediately picked up on it and said "Oh, no, they're showing her private parts, mommy!". Now if this little one knows that is wrong, what the hell is wrong with the parents and even the producer? And talking about Mady in unkind terms, talking endlessly about Aaden & his bowel problems -- are they trying to get the kids humiliated at school or are they just totally clueless? This without question is the WORST show featuring kids ever. Jenny is a saint and is probably the closest thing these kids will ever get to being around a real mom.

Anonymous said...

I dont know if this has been said yet, but I just moved to San Diego about 4 months ago. We live about 10 minutes from Legoland and my husband and I thought it would be cool to see, until we found out the tickets are $60!!! For kids I believe 3-12 they are $50. So IF, we know they didnt, but IF they would have paid for admission, it would have could over $500! Ridiculous."

My son got a free ticket to Legoland with a Brickmaster subscription he had but TLC is going to have to first fly us there and give us a hotel room! Poor kid wants to go as badly as the Gosselin children but we are not special enough.

Anonymous said...

hmmmmmmm...kraft services couldn't get organic food on the west coast? Somehow I doubt that

missingauntjodi said...

I think we should stop picking on Jenny.. i dont know if she knew what she was signing on for. And for a person her age, theese trips have to be awesome. It also appears that she likes and is an outlet for the children. Also, if i looked that good in those shorts, i would wear them...lol

Anonymous said...

Regarding Collin's head injury, my son was also doing what he was told not to do when he got hurt but never did I say God was punishing him or hesitate to blame him. The parents are usually at fault. For instance, they allowed him to run ahead rather than make sure he was accompanied and in my son's case, we had warned him of running on a sloped cement walkway, but then a minute later my husband gets the brilliant idea to chase him down it! So that again was the fault of parents not doing a good job at preventing mishaps.

Anonymous said...

Kate, as far as being incapable of finding a terminal at an airport and needing to follow, give me a break! First of all, I'm sure TLC or someone actually lead the way with cameras and she knew exactly where to go! Secondly, I don't know about them, but when we travel, my husband and I walk side by side, not with one of us following! I wonder if her comment was a dig at viewers who complain she controls him too much!

Annie8575 said...

One last observation directed at Discovery: You really should start showing this program on the Travel Channel. Samantha Brown hasn't logged as many airline miles as these kids!

(Okay, that was silly, but you get my drift!)

jen in pa said...

Welcome Killy if I haven't "seen" you before...and give San Diego a chance. You can find ways to make it much more economical. Both Legoland and the San Diego Zoo (includes Wild Animal Park) offer yearly family passes which allow you to go as often as you want during the year. For our family of four, it worked out to about $20/month for each place (the monthly fee is debited from your checking account). We also did this with Sea World. If you can only afford one, I would do the Zoo because you get the animal park as well. Hope that helps!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

I also thought blaming God for the whack on Collin's head was really uncalled for. So consoling- not!! I think Kate would of benefited from an accidental whack on her head from God to wake her up and realize how selfish and greedy she is.
Did I see some children chewing gum on the airplane...I thought that it was not allowed.
If makes me wonder why they do not correct their children's poor speaking skills. When ? Alexis says
"Him is an alldegator" I can not help but wonder why they do not repeat what she says in the proper way. She will be in kindergarten next year and should really be using pronouns in the proper way. She will never learn if she is not corrected.
Also at the beach when the two kids were fighting over the cup it amazes me why Jenny or Kate does not show them problem solving skills and suggest that one uses the cup first. It is not rocket science. Both of them were just standing over the kids watching them like drill sargents with no interaction at all.
Kate was so amazed with the seahorses that she missed two of the kids smack each other in the head. That is not proper behavior for a public place and by 4 years old they should be taught that hitting each other is not allowed.
What they will let these kids do for ratings. It is a shame.



I don't think it's a requirement to enter kindergarten knowing how to speak using proper pronouns. Yes, they can be corrected from time to time but I didn't do that with my children and they are reading above their age level now at 6 yrs. old. Also, I believe all kids argue over toys at 4 yrs of age and it would be almost impossible for parents to correct every problem and show them "proper skills" to handle the problems themselves. And again, all kids hit each other in public places. I might be at a store admiring something on the shelf or wherever I'm at and not see everything my children are doing. It's no crime by any means. I believe on several episodes the children have been put in time out or have had to apologize for hitting the other children. Not every mistake goes unnoticed. I don't believe for a minute they let their children hit each other for ratings...the children do it because they are children. I'm not saying it's right but that is one part of the show that is reality. It's what kids do. I actually thought that this was an episode that Kate tried to get involved with what was going on. Taking the kids to feed the fish, taking them out on the boat, etc. It was a nice change.

jen in pa said...

Helloooo Kate! San Diego is pretty much the capital of organic food. You have Trader Joe's and Whole Foods and many other local markets every place you look. It would have just required planning on your part. As a former San Diego resident and frequenter of the parks you visited, there are plenty of healthy food options at each park: salads, fruit, etc. My kids especially loved the turkey baguette served with lettuce, tomato, and fresh sliced avocado. Oh, and our family eats organic as much as possible, albeit without an "organic chef". We never had a single stomach problem with our kids at the parks. But I've heard stress can bring on stomach problems in adults as well as children...

Anonymous said...

And again, all kids hit each other in public places. I might be at a store admiring something on the shelf or wherever I'm at and not see everything my children are doing.
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Let me assure that all kids most certainly do not hit! It's not a matter of just not seeing what is going on either. "all" children don't do it. Period.

KathyGriffith said...

Re: Nanny Jenny.
No one is forcing her to work for the Gosselins. She chose that job, she chose to be filmed (unlike the children), I'm sure she must have know that people may occasionally talk about her. It's part of teh package.
As for her sleeping arrangements, while the children are not covered labor laws, nannies in fact are. There are rules that dictate the nanny must have a certain amount of time off in a private space. There have been major lawsuits regarding nannies being forced to sleep in the children's quarters.

Anonymous said...

And again, all kids hit each other in public places. I might be at a store admiring something on the shelf or wherever I'm at and not see everything my children are doing.
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Let me assure that all kids most certainly do not hit! It's not a matter of just not seeing what is going on either. "all" children don't do it. Period.



I guess perfect kids don't hit in public..especially if they were raised by perfect parents. I think the point being made is that it was specified that kids shouldn't hit in "public places" because it's inappropriate. Kids shouldn't hit in public or private places but it's made more of a point because it was done in public. I can see both sides of the comment.

Anonymous said...

First, as a child I had the problem Aiden had. The cause changes in water as stated earlier. Some people have sensitive stomachs, nothing to do in my case with a lack of organic foods.

On the issue of privacy I feel this was a dig to family, Julie and Jodi. It was meant to include the bloggers as well beacause this show was getting some really bad press around the time these episodes were filmed.

If Kate said we arent coming back and the child was crying because they heard that, shame on her. If it was creative editing shame on TLC. Wht would they want the viewers to see that? To show Kate would be missed if she left, please.

Kate if you read this Jon cannot lead unless you are submissive enough to follow. Not in a subservient way but as a trusting wife willing to take a back seat when needed. Honestly I feel Jon has stated she cannot follow and either goes around him or is nipping at his heels RE: Disney episodes.

Finnaly what is it with the unusual interest in bodily functions. We pee, he pooped, they peed man sakes alive enough ya goofs.

Just Me said...

Imagine the storys Jenny must have of what REALLY goes on in the Gosselin world! I like Jenny but she will be gone as soon as Kate realizes the kids like their "helper" more than their own "mother"

I cant imagine how Cara and Mady must get teased at school, poor things!

I wonder what goes on in that house when filming is off?!

Thing is, Im sure J & K have to approve the show before it airs, how in the world do they not see the problems we all see, or how things get edited to make them look worse (Alexis crying over the boat ride but they make it look like its because Kate says they wont ever return) How do they not see how cruel some of their remarks twords their children are?

mollybloom said...

I only watched a part of this episode. I actually settled on a history program about methods of execution. That says a lot about how I feel about the TV appeal of Jon and Kate Gosselin. Still, I heard the God gives naughty children a clunk on the head comment and thought Kate was over the top. Is God responsible for the slaps and punches Jon receives from Kate? Oh, in the mind of Kate, probably yes.

As for Kate's not correcting the children's grammar, the reason is clear to me. Baby talk keeps the tups sounding like babies, and babies are good for the show.

Anonymous said...

highondegrassi said...
"Did you catch the comment by Kate as they were in the paddle boat and she says to the kids on shore "Good-bye, we will never return. One of the little girls stood there crying."

What kind of mother says something like that to her child? She is seriously disturbed. "

That was an obvious edit of TLC. Leah was crying becasue she wanted to be on that boat, not because Kate said that.

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Oh no don't you worry Kate will have to come back to get the rest of her children cause then she wouldn't get things for free anymore or have a free way of getting home. I agree that it was also part of editing that she was crying because none of the other kids cared.

Anonymous said...

The good thing about this episode is that Jon and Kate showed me what bad parents are, how they behaved and how it should not be imitated for the sake of my children and for my and my husband's sake. Kate also made me realize that little kids are human too, that they should be treated with respect and they should not be called names. What if the tups' classmates start calling Aaden "Potty Boy"? and Mady "her ugliness"?
Thank you Kate for showing me how ugly as a parent you are. I promise never to behave like you ever.

Anonymous said...

"Him looking at me." I have never heard kids with those kinds of speech problems. I really wonder what it is attributable to.
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Besides the fact that Alexis and the tups are preemies and multiples, both of which can result in speech problems, I think that's common among toddlers.

My nephew just turned four and sometimes he still speaks incorrectly. The last time I saw him, he told me "It's on him's table" and "Oh, him took it." We do correct him, but it's nothing that overly concerns his parents or anyone else.

And along the same lines, I noticed that somebody thought Jon/Kate should have corrected Alexis when she said "Him is an aldergator!" Yes, they should have corrected the "Him" and replaced it with "His" but I don't think it's necessary for them to correct the "aldergator" term. The kids are only little once and when they mispronounce words like that, most parents do let it slide because it's so cute and it doesn't really have a negative effect on the child...Alexis will learn it is "alligator" soon enough.

Anonymous said...

"distractionary items" said...
Gentle Posters:
Please comment if you agree. The so called "Wedding Month" (they promoted it as such but not on every ad) is a S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G out of what could have been covered in a one hour epi!


It's November sweeps. They came up with the faux vow renewal and found a way to milk it for the whole month.

Laura said...

I wonder what Kates punishment from God will be for all of her evilness over the past few years.
I find it disgusting that they need to take an entire week to get to Hawaii in order to stay on a schedule for the kids. And the place that they stayed at, BARF!! Dont they know that people are starving and losing their jobs left and right. This is so pathetic, I am tired of watching this show. Its not even intersting anymore, its like rubbing it in my face that i will only be able to spend $400 on my 3 kids Christmas this year, becuase I pay my own bills and dont make my kids work to buy me a vacation of the month.

Anonymous said...

What gives Jon and Kate the right to make fun on their children on National TV? Do they think that they're a comedy team? Don't they know that humiliation could lead to a low self esteem? I guess they just don't care.
Perhaps this makes them feel better about themselves for being immature selfish human beings. They should Thank God everyday for the blessings they have and treat their children with the utmost respect. They are gifts from God. I only have one and feel God entrusted me to guide and prep her to be a decent, kind and loving being. How will these children be God loving and spread the Word if they are treated so mentally cruel by those who should be honored to be their worldly parents? J&K are missing the whole point. Do they even listen to the Word of God? I really have to wonder.

Laura said...

So when Kate mentioned that Jon for a 'phone thing'and the kids got an 'electronic thing" why didnt she blab the name brand all over the place, did they not send her 10 of them or something that she wont adverstise the actual brand of what they got?

Anonymous said...

I love the kids and enjoy the parts of the show where they are featured - not enough. As I use CC, I just tune out the sofa talks. Kate is so low class that she has to be ignored. Jon is a nice undereducated guy, who cares about the kids and I think does his best to be a Dad.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
And again, all kids hit each other in public places.

Even if I were to agree with this statement (which I DO NOT), just because it happens does NOT make it an acceptable or appropriate behavior. To justify the act of a ANY child hitting another , in public or otherwise, with the statement 'all kids hit each other in public places' is absolutely ridiculous!

jkaz said...

How I wish the privacy conversation had gone:

Park Lady: Don't you ever want privacy sometimes?"

Child (any one will do): What's "privacy"?

Park Lady: It's when you're all alone and no one bothers you.

Child (any one will do): What's "alone"?

Park Lady: It's when you're all by yourself.

Child (any one will do): No cameras either?

Park Lady: Right, no cameras either.

Children (all 8): We can DO THAT????

Paula S said...

Thing is, Im sure J & K have to approve the show before it airs, how in the world do they not see the problems we all see, or how things get edited to make them look worse (Alexis crying over the boat ride but they make it look like its because Kate says they wont ever return) How do they not see how cruel some of their remarks twords their children are?

I don't think they do approve the show before it airs. I read somewhere that they only see the episode a week before it airs. I think that is also why sometimes shows are re-edited because of viewer reactions that make their ways into the boards and blogs that they don't read.

Anyway, you certainly would think they would have learned by now. Just one more clue that they are both clueless.

Shara said...

My child experiences bathroom problems on trips too, mainly because we are off schedule and in a different environment. Once she was potty trained, I learned to bring her familiar potty with her to help with familiarality.
Even I, as an adult, have problems on trips. It is not the food, it is the stress of trips, a change of scenery, not my own bathroom, etc. Ever heard of the "home throne syndrome?" Poor Aaden just probably has a sensitive stomach that reacts to change like that.

Kara said...

The incorrect grammer gets to me too. The children will not learn the proper use unless it is taught to them. My daughter is about the same age as the little ones and she has had some delays of her own. I speak with correct grammer around her and I gently correct it at home as well. I do not do this in public, but I do correct her at home. I am proud of the fact that being a late talker, she uses correct pronouns at the age of 4 and has a pretty good vocabulary despite her differences.
I think Kate thinks it is cute, but the older they get, the harder it will be to correct their speech. I also think she is in denial that the kids have any disabilities or delays.

kelly s said...

All i can say is if i hear "oh my word" one more time, i am going to scream. Kate says it way too many times in this episode.

I wish God would smack me in the head as my punishment for still watching this show!!

Anonymous said...

1. Whenever one of us five kids got hurt after ignoring her warning about doing something, or got sick from eating too many cookies after she said to stop, our mother would say it was God's punishment. That was sixty years ago, it made all us kids fear God instead of love Him. Not one of us has been to church since we were teenagers. I guess there are people Kate's age out there today with the same "God fearing" mentality and sadly probably most of their kids will turn their backs on their faith too.

2. Obviously when Kate said about Mady's "ugliness" she meant it figuratively about her miserable pissy mood, not that she's physically ugly. Problem is, her second-grader pals who watch will pick up on the literal meaning and I can just hear them teasing her with "Your Mommy thinks you're ugly." People who are as uneducated and have poor vocabularies as Jon and Kate are bound to use the wrong word to their kids, but most of those people don't do it on national TV.

As to Kate's "directional challenge", that's just another example of how ignorant this woman is. She's so intent on getting waited on and catered to and being the center of attention (she's so clearly jealous of her own kids, watch how every time someone asks the kids something she has to interject and make it about her!)that she doesn't stop to think that saying she can't navigate an airport concourse makes her look like she's stupid as a rock.

I myself agree that the kids are exploited, and it sickens me that these uncouth, ungrateful parents get to benefit from them, but one thing I am happy for some of these vacations and experiences even if they are freebies done for promotional purposes and not because those places care about the kids. The reason why, is the kids get to be exposed to things and people that they never would be if not for the show. Otherwise they would grow up thinking the world ends at their front door, that their parents are smart, and maybe being 8 clones of their ignorant, uneducated parents.

Laura Linger said...

I'm calling BS on the supposed cause of Aaden's ailing tummy.

First of all, I am an avid traveler and I always manage to get sick on a trip in one way or another. I either catch a cold or have digestive problems. Lots of people are just very sensitive that way, and you learn to adjust, bring cold medicine, extra Vitamin C, Pepto Bismol, Lomotil, get lots of rest, etc. It's very common.

In Japan, "foreign stomach" is such a problem for travelers that hotels and restaurants actually have an alternate menu for those who ask for it, filled with light, stomach-friendly foods. When I went to Tokyo for the first time, my stomach became so grouchy, I would up seeing the hotel doctor. In his gentle, Japanese way, he told me to "eat Subway (the chain is very popular in Tokyo). Lots of bread and vegetables." Closer to my American diet, and my stomach troubles eased.

I was also sick once on a 20-hour flight from Singapore. Misery. Poor little Aaden. At least I could take care of myself and my husband cared.

Stress and anxiety also cause stomach upset...

dotsicle said...

"its like rubbing it in my face that i will only be able to spend $400 on my 3 kids Christmas this year, becuase I pay my own bills and dont make my kids work to buy me a vacation of the month."

Agreed! For us it's worse; we know we have NO money for Christmas gifts. My kids are older so it's not as bad, but if TLC thinks they are showing a "normal family" they are wrong. Normal families are the ones using K-Mart layaway to be able to afford gifts for their kids. Of course Kate doesn't shop at KMart or use layaway, no matter what she says on the show! Likely she doesn't shop for gifts at all, since everything seems to be GIVEN to them.

amanda said...

Kids pick up on habits of their parents i.e eating organically, having time out instead of spanking, cutting anybody out of their life when they don't follow their demands even if it's family or close friends they have known for years. These kids are going to resent their parents when they're older once they realize their childhoods were used for free vacations and free plastic surgery. Hopefully their marriage does last because I can see them only having each other in the near future.

kk said...

My husband and I booked a last minute summer vacation to SD (we live in Northern CA) and used Hotwire.com for booking a hotel- and we scored a sweet room and deal on it at Paradise Point Resort & Spa about a week before the G's were there. It was wonderful, but there is no way we could have ever afforded it otherwise (and we both have good jobs, own a house, pregnant with first baby) - CA is an expensive state to live in, and SD one of the most expensive spots in the state. I really never minded watching the shows where you knew it was a "freebie day" at a theme park or whatnot - being on a reality show will come with some perks and that seemed still in the realm of "normalcy"... but to see them at luxury resorts (and for all those who haven't been to Maui, the Grand Wailea is EXTREMELY posh) and living such a grandiose lifestyle, with all the talk of a new "mansion"... it just doesn't sit well. It's pretty disappointing to see what the show/family has morphed into.

SmartyQ said...

Anonymous said...
I also noticed how during the couch interview Kate had her legs up the whole time, which seemed strange to me because her stomach was covered the whole time. And for someone who's had a tummy tuck/ lipo,it looked rather large so she could be pregnant. I pray that it was just the style of her shirt...

I have seen QFI frequently look down at her lap when she sits like that. I think it's because she has notes in her lap. She will look down before speaking, raise her head, spout garbage and then look at Jen.

Laura Linger said... I'm calling BS on the supposed cause of Aaden's ailing tummy.
So am I. I too have traveled a great deal, and I always have Lomotil with me—not in the hotel room. Aaden could have become seriously dehydrated from diarrhea. Does QFI, RN, know that? Doesn't she know about children's Lomotil? To make a little boy perform when he's not feeling well is cruel. Oh, well, the show must go on!

OTOH, if Hannie had a single loose stool or even an odd looking BM, call an ambulance, alert the air ambulance and fly us to the Mayo Clinic!

Anonymous said...

I imagine that Figure 8 and TLC is paying Jenny a pretty nice sum to be the Nanny/Mommy substitute for these children. I also imagine she has signed some sort of confidentiality agreement and therefor we will never have the priviledge of reading her tell-all book one day (Darn...because I bet it would be good.).

I believe that Kate is the type of person who loves the idea of having kids but doesn't actually like having the kids. She never interacts with them...even for the sake of the camera...but simply sits on the sideline and watches and critiques their every moves.

The whole "Aaden is sick becuase he is not eating organically" is such a crock. I did notice the kids feasting on lollipops at one point in this episode...I imagine they are the special organic ones Kate praises so frequently.

Amanda said...

I don't care what anybody else says, but these kids are the most misbehaved kids I've ever seen. Mady throwing another temper tantrum, Collin running off the airplane and Mady throwing yet ANOTHER TEMPER TANTRUM!! And they can't blame it on the fact that there are many of them to egg each other on because look at the Duggars. Their kids are so bahaved and there are 17 of them! So, what's KON's excuse? hmmmmm....

Annie8575 said...

In defense of the kids re: their misbehaving- If you lived in a fishbowl, with every move scrutinized and recorded for posterity, you'd get pretty testy on a regular basis, too. I realize this is not an excuse for poor behavior. but it is a good reason. As for Mady, she is obviously traumatized by the cameras in her face- I nearly cried for her when I saw a clip of her crying getting off of the school bus. You can only imagine what was happening on that bus. My daughter is in 2nd grade and she has NEVER gotten off the school bus in tears. (And she's dealing with Asperger's Syndrome, which comes with its own social difficulties.) Add to the fact that the mother seems to have her own media circuit to think about, and you get 8 kids who don't know what to do or how to act!

ashley said...

Those kids to behave badly but look at the examples they have. Kate had a melt down when they were flying to Utah and who knows how many more she has that we dont get to see.

nolongeranavidshrewwatcher said...

I am proud to say that I did not watch this episode. I weaned myself off by only watching six minutes of last week's farce. However, I am still interested in what you gentle posters have to say about the Shrew and Nutless Wonder. And, I am very glad I did not attempt to watch, because from the sound of it, it was more of the same. I hope the trend of turning off the tv continues and this farce of reality gets canceled. Thanks for the great comments!

Anonymous said...

In regards to the tup hitting his head:

It was very obvious that the boy tup had no problem over riding Jenny's authority and ran ahead unattended by an adult which ultimately lead to his getting hurt. IMO, his getting hurt had nothing to do with 'God' punishing him for his failure to hold Jenny's hand, but the failure and inability of ALL the adults that accompanied these children on the flight to maintain order and secure their departure from the plane in a safe manner!! Kate was too concerned with her own needs and wanting to exit the plane immediately, the camera crew were too busy filming, Jon was most likely attending to the other children, and obviously the tup didnt'/doesnt listen to Jenny. The camera person was present and filming when the tup released himself from Jenny and ran down the isle unattended. However, they did not stop to procure his safety at any time as the camera continued to film as he ran down the isle and ultimately wacked his head. I understand that accidents can happen but you would think that with all the excessive traveling that the J & K family do and the entourage that accompanies them, they would have a departure routine in place that would allow the children to exit the plane without risk of running off unattended or getting hurt.

Anonymous said...

anonymous 11/04/2008 10:34 AM

Pre-school teacher commenting-
I am the one who commented on"aldergator!" and "Him gave it to me"
YES it is a big deal!!!
As a certified and trained early childhood teacher, I suspect she is selectively choosing to use "him" instead of "he" because someone in her chaotic life thought it was cute and gave her attention when she spoke like that.
Please do not use the excuse that they are toddlers....FYI definition of TODDLER is
"a young child who is learning to walk". These children are 4 1/2 years old and do not have an obvious delays from their prematurity. Stop making excuses for Alexis. Her speech and behaviors need improvement. Too bad her parents have not noticed.

Anonymous said...

Every child deserves to be feel special and deeply loved. A parent of 8 may have to try a little harder to carve out one on one time, but it should happen. They had these children so it is their responsibility to see that they feel safe and important. I can't imagine how this is obtained by being belittled and put on display. It's sad when the outside world isn't kind and is judgemental, but in this case it's the parents! When you have had a rough time on the bus, who meets you at the door with a hug and ready to listen and help? In this case not the parents. So what happens to the child? Maybe they just learn to keep it all in and at some point you 'disapear' or you act up until someone - anyone notices you.

Mom. said...

"How many times did they have to explain how they had stopped in San Diego on their way to Hawaii, to get used to the time change, blah blah blah?? After each commercial break, Kon basically repeated themselves, trying to justify their extravagant 5-day "stop" in CA"

I believe that has more to do with the show's editing than with Jon and Kate. If you pay attention to reality shows in general, they tend to do a summary of events at the beginning of each block to catch up viewers that just tuned in. Why don't we try to find actual things to criticize and try not to blame J&K for everything that's wrong with the world (or at least with their world)? Many things I see people criticizing around here are related to editing, choices made by the show's directors.
Also, I read a lot of people criticizing the free trips. Let's forget for a minute the 'overexposing the kids' issue. If a TV network was making millions of dollars by airing your show, wouldn't you think its fair if you got some free things from them (such as trips and endorsements), specially if these trips in question are generating the producers more millions?

IMO, The only difference between J&K and 'actual' celebrities is that they get and enjoy the free stuff in front of cameras. But everyone you see on tv is on the same situation, if not better (let's not forget its just TLC we're talking about, not NBC or FOX).

highQ said...

ASHLEY SAID...
Who wants to bet that Jenny is gone soon, (I dont think what happened was her fault but Kate will be angry) not only because she cant control the kids (according to Kate),

What do you mean by the line:
"I dont think what happened was her fault but Kate will be angry"

What happened?

Anonymous said...

Pulheeze: Kate pulls that helpless damsel in distress act all the time. For example, when they went to paint pottery she had to have Jon program the GPS for her. I have personally been in that "City" many times and it is not like driving into Philadelphia. It is like 20-25 minutes from her house to the pottery place. It is all an act!!!!!!!!!!!!

ashley said...

highq: Collin fell and hit his head on the air plane because he wasnt holding Jennys hand like he was suppose to and although Kate acted like it wasnt Jennys fault I think she was mad.
but thats just my opinion

Anonymous said...

Katie Irene if you want privacy, stop the show. Plain and simple.

AND it does matter how the children talk. Grammar means a lot in this day and age. But you wouldn't know that because you haven't really "worked" in years.

My mom used poor grammar all my life and because of this, I had to learn how to talk properly... It was tough since my Mom always put "s" on the end of her words. So yes it does matter that the kids be corrected when their grammar is incorrect. It is called learning!

ashley said...

I dont think Kate is just acting like a dumby I think she truly cant do anything on her own. Its like she is so insecure that she believes if she can do things on her own Jon will leave.

Anonymous said...

"As a certified and trained early childhood teacher, I suspect she is selectively choosing to use "him" instead of "he" because someone in her chaotic life thought it was cute and gave her attention when she spoke like that. "

AND as a certified teacher I suspect that you just could be wrong.

I think instead of getting attention it is the LACK of attention. There are six kids(eight counting the twins) I honestly believe it's the lack of personal time each child receives.

I am not blaming Jon and Kate. I just think it's more common in large multiple birth families.

The pronoun usage while important, is not a huge red flag.

Thaise said...

And did anyone notice the look Jon and Kate gave each other when they say "We made Alexis ride in the boat with Mady (or Cara - can't remember which of the twins it was)? I haven't really been paying attention, but is she the least favorite or something? Notice the look on the reruns..
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"That is not proper behavior for a public place and by 4 years old they should be taught that hitting each other is not allowed."

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1- IMO, Mady and Alexis are not the least favorites at all...i happen to think they are the life of the show. I think the inside joke between them was that they are obviously the wildest of the Gosselin kids, and pairing them up sounded funny to them because of that.

2- Kids tend to hit each other. Actually, let me rephrase that: Siblings tend to hit each other, specially when they're the same age and are trying to establish authority. Of course you don't see Mady and Cara hitting them as much (i can only recall Mady doing it once or twice now) because they are older, so the kids naturally see them as sort-of authority figures. Siblings hit each other and always will, cameras or no cameras, and in my opinion whoever doesn't understand that has to be an only child :)

someone commented on Kate refusing to change Joel's shirt, and added that she wanted the boys to match, as if it was a bad thing. I see her point. My mom had only me and my sister to take care of and whenever we went somewhere crowded, she made sure we matched in some way so she could spot us quickly if she had to.

pinkdiamond611 said...

John is a wuss. He had to wear those blue rubber gloves to feed the fish squid. And one of the little boys got yelled at because he was holding the squid too long. He is four years old. That shows he wants to learn about the world around him. If he walks around smelling like fish, it is his parent's fault, not his, as he is only four years old. This illustrates the point that the show comes before the well being of the children.

Anonymous said...

Free free free....JUST the admission to Legoland would have cost J/K, Jenny and the kids: $760

I had to buy tickets from Ebay to be able to go.

Anonymous said...

Mom. said...
wouldn't you think its fair if you got some free things from them (such as trips and endorsements), specially if these trips in question are generating the producers more millions?

*********** If I had a genuine talent like acting, singing, performing,etc. then yes. Also, how is it different that the producers and others are permitted to make money off the show which is based on the kids, but Jodi and Beth are forbidden to profit off it? Jenn Stocks is making a bundle off those kids, yet Jodi was thrown to the curb for asking about the offer to be paid for her time.




IMO, The only difference between J&K and 'actual' celebrities is that they get and enjoy the free stuff in front of cameras. But everyone you see on tv is on the same situation, if not better (let's not forget its just TLC we're talking about, not NBC or FOX).

11/04/2008 1:06 PM

******* Again, this is what bothers people. J&K have NO talents worthy of being celebrities. Their claim to fame is being freaks of medical science and pimping out the results. Real celebrities WORK HARD, whereas J&K simply freeload and expect to be treated as royalty. Even Matt and Amy Roloff, and Jim Bob Duggar WORK. It's very difficult for anybody to sit and watch people ( not just Kon) be handed everything on a silver platter and not have to lift a finger for any of it. Paris Hilton comes to mind here. Ugh!

I know a family who has 6 children and lost their 4 year old daughter last July to brain cancer. This family had to literally jump through hoops to get a Make A Wish trip to Disney for Bethy ( Disney did not invite them ), and she died 1 month later. They are up to their ears in medical bills and wondering how they will pay their bills. Dad was too distraught to work for a few weeks after her death, and that set them back even further. I'm sure Christmas gifts are far from top priority this year. I know this is not the Gosselins fault, but do you see why it's difficult to watch one family be showered with "blessings" and another family going through hell? To hear an ungrateful Kate whine about how exhausted she is and how difficult their life is and how much she criticizes everything.....I'm certain that other family would trade places with the G's in a nanosecond and never behave as badly as what we see week in and week out. I watched a mother watch her baby girl slowly die for months, and not once did she say "I'm so exhausted" or bark at her husband about his grammar skills. She has 5 surviving children in a 3 bedroom house, and she spends her days wondering how to keep the house they have, not obsessing about needing a bigger one with more space.

Again, not the Gosselins fault, but is a factor in why the show bugs me so much. It's a glaring reminder to me about how life is just not fair, and how some people are just never happy with what they have and always need more more more more more, while others suffer with much much less.

Now that Kate has the bigger house, how long til we start hearing about how exhausted she is having to clean it and how much more trouble and work it is with upkeep?

Ok...rant over.

Anonymous said...

So when Kate mentioned that Jon for a 'phone thing'and the kids got an 'electronic thing" why didnt she blab the name brand all over the place, did they not send her 10 of them or something that she wont adverstise the actual brand of what they got?

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Exactly. Any time you see a label blurred, it's because the company has not ponied up any/enough freebies for KON.

Anonymous said...

Poor Aaden just probably has a sensitive stomach that reacts to change like that.
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And that's perfectly understandable if little Aaden has a sensitive tummy. It's Kate's BS "it's not organic" comment that is ridiculous. Aaden seemed perfectly fine when he was eating those non-organic chicken fingers at the Phillies game........

Anonymous said...

I didn't watch the show, just reading the comments.

Apparently, Kate had some problems navigating in the airport. My GOD, after all the trips this goon has taken, she should be a pro - like her kids.

Tami said...

"Thing is, Im sure J & K have to approve the show before it airs, how in the world do they not see the problems we all see, or how things get edited to make them look worse (Alexis crying over the boat ride but they make it look like its because Kate says they wont ever return) How do they not see how cruel some of their remarks twords their children are?"

I don't care about the editing with the crying child. When I saw it and commented on it I was talking about the remark itself. Others did mention the crying. But I think the comment alone was the bad thing. You do NOT say that kind of thing to young kids. It is just like when Jon called Joel a traitor with his sick "humor". I tried to respond to someone who said they hope I didn't wait until my kids are teens before I joke with them and that of course Joel got the joke--and I underestimated him. (comments had been turned off and I couldn't reply) Sorry, but I will not be convinced that these kids get this kind of adult style joking. That is just not appropriate talk for young kids. They will not comprehend Kate's comments are supposed to be a joke. So editing or not, she did say it so she is at fault IMO.

Anonymous said...

I will just say it one more time; ALL kids do not hit. I come from a large family, am around kids all the time and always have been, and also have 4 kids of my own. It is not a matter of implying perfect parenting as has been stated. I am sorry if you have kids who hit each other. Some kids do. It does not make it appropriate for the Gosselin kids to always be bashing each other. Just rest assured that there are many kids who do not hit. I know I never did.

Anonymous said...

They stopped in San Diego on the way there to "make the time change more gradual" or whatever, but are they going to make another stop somewhere on the way back? Doubt it, I'm sure they will fly straight from Hawaii back home... quite obviously, the stop in San Diego was used for more freebies and to stretch this episode out even longer

Anonymous said...

So what will KON do to adjust to the time difference going home (which is MUCH harder). A 10-day layover in Palm Springs ?

Powell Mom said...

No one has mentioned how the kids were napping in the bus transporting them to Legoland (or somewhere) without carseats, and (it looks like) without seatbelts...

Anonymous said...

I usually look forward to J&K plus 8. I have to say that I'm caring less and less about this show and this family. I didn't even watch it last night. It is just boring and the same stuff over and over again. I think that we all need a break. They should end the season for the year and restart it next year so we can see the kids grow. Or just do specials!!

Lonnyswife said...

Kate & Jon both missed out on a perfect opportunity when talking to Colin about his head whack incident.

Instead of parenting and explaining to him that things like whacking your head happen when you don't listen to and mind the adult you are with, they instead decided to tell Colin that God metes out punishment.

How about you two as parents get off the pot and actually teach your kids a lesson instead of saying "God will take care of this" or "God tells us what to do" or "God will punish you".

Not saying that you shouldn't teach your kids about God if that is your choice, but take some responsibility for a change. It's ridiculous.

I would be more interested in watching Kate deal with the real life "melt downs" of her children. How she disciplines 8 kids,etc.

I already know how to pack a suitcase, fly on an airplane, stay in a hotel room, get a spa treatment.........

Anonymous said...

Although I agree with a lot of the comments about this episode, I must say, the comments about Jenny aren't fair. She's a young girl doing her job. She isn't the one you should be hating on. So she wears short shorts, who cares. And you may not feel she's perfect with the kids, but maybe that's editing too. Goodness knows Kate wouldn't want Jenny to look too fabulous!

Anonymous said...

Although I agree with a lot of the comments about this episode, I must say, the comments about Jenny aren't fair. She's a young girl doing her job. She isn't the one you should be hating on. So she wears short shorts, who cares. And you may not feel she's perfect with the kids, but maybe that's editing too. Goodness knows Kate wouldn't want Jenny to look too fabulous!

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I agree.

Jenny is a young, beautiful girl. Who cares if she wears short shorts? Instead of condemning Jenny for what she's wearing, we should condemn the cameraperson who keeps filming her a$$ and Joel's plumber butt etc.

Anonymous said...

"Not saying that you shouldn't teach your kids about God if that is your choice, but take some responsibility for a change. It's ridiculous."

J & K Gosselin do NOT know the meaning of PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY. It's God's plan, they didnt know how to help us, they dont understand us, who are we to say no, 'until God tells us otherwise', it's God's punishment, it's the goal of the evil doers, I (Kate) dont see those around me, until you walk in our shoes, etc......
How can J & K possibly teach their 8 children about taking responsibility for your own actions, when they spend so much of their lives making excuses and holding others accountable for their OWN!

Anonymous said...

If Kate made such a big deal about navigating through the airport with Jon and the kids. Question how does she survive going through the airport alone when she travels by herself to New York and other places for business trips? This woman is all for show. When they say they are in on the Joke. They mean that they are laughing at the viewers. They proably are wondering how a group of woman could sit watch us morons every Monday night. Maybe the joke is on us viewers. Why would we want to watch a woman with no class, bad grammar, and manners. Kids or no kids.

Anonymous said...

Wait....I thought those children never watched t.v. or if they did, it was only their own show. Hmmm, they sure did seem to know who Nemo was and were quite excited about that. Kate is such a liar.

Just because the kids know who Nemo is does not mean that they sit and watch TV all the time.

And I do believe the comment that was made about only watching their show was in refrence to what they were watching at naptime ?? I could be wrong though...

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