Kate: Her Story Recap

Thanks to a courageous volunteer, GoPoshGo, we now have an official recap!

The opening montage reminds us of the cuddles, chaos and frustrations we’ve witnessed the family face, including a clip of a beleaguered Kate on her knees moaning, “I’m so tired of dealing with poop.” [An ironic foreshadowing of the GWoPPers future battle cry?] The montage concludes with Kate and Jon on the interview couch; Kate, summing up the Hawaii trip: “We’ll always be together.” Her upward inflection at the end of the sentence should have set off bells and whistles in all of us at the time. A voiceover by Natalie Morales reveals the over-arching themes of the interview: “Always didn’t last forever;” “How did it go from love to lawsuits? And “how is she handling the most difficult time in her life with millions of Americans watching”???? continue


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GoPoshGo said...

The opening montage reminds us of the cuddles, chaos and frustrations we’ve witnessed the family face, including a clip of a beleaguered Kate on her knees moaning, “I’m so tired of dealing with poop.” [An ironic foreshadowing of the GWoPPers future battle cry?] The montage concludes with Kate and Jon on the interview couch; Kate, summing up the Hawaii trip: “We’ll always be together.” Her upward inflection at the end of the sentence should have set off bells and whistles in all of us at the time. A voiceover by Natalie Morales reveals the over-arching themes of the interview: “Always didn’t last forever;” “How did it go from love to lawsuits? And “how is she handling the most difficult time in her life with millions of Americans watching”?????

The voiceover introduction continues with Natalie explaining how Kate is used to being surrounded by kids and cameras. The scenes to bring the “cameras” point home is the crowd forced to wait outside of Stride Rite while the Queen shopped for shoes, and the NBC camera crew that filmed her at the Grove with Natalie Morales. I guess angry shoe-shopping customers and a hired NBC crew are the new code for “being followed by cameras.” Figured prominently in the Grove shoot is Steve, pretending to be a bodyguard by almost tapping a man with a camera on the shoulder – but failing miserably. We then see Steve holding the door open for Kate as she gets into an SUV (holding her own purse!!!).

Just before we segue to the interview set, Natalie’s voiceover informs us that Kate feels very much alone, and that she’s “a bigger tabloid target than any star living in the Hollywood Hills.” On that note, I hit pause and run to the kitchen for the corkscrew and chardonnay. As I pop the cork I decide that this is the first and last Natalie Morales interview I will EVER watch.

And finally the interview begins…..

As the camera pans in on two people seated on a gaudy, gold, velveteen couch, I wonder out loud, “Is that Kevin Kreider in drag???” Upon closer inspection, I realize that no, it is in fact Kate Gosselin, whose stylist has once again proven how much she hates Kate: Magenta-ish, too-short dress; gold, old-lady jewelry; strappy shoes that cut at the cankle; clown-smeared make-up, and a possum that has taken on a whole new life on her head. This puffed out confection seems to be Kate’s hairstylist’s vain attempt to dwarf her colossal frame and elephantine legs.

Kate is seated awkwardly in the corner of the couch, visibly uncomfortable with stiff posture and legs knock-kneed, hanging out in front of her. In stark contrast is Natalie Morales, gracefully propped up by a large pillow, legs comfortably crossed, completely relaxed. At this moment two thoughts come to mind: (1) Kate’s PR team did not negotiate well for a suitable interviewer. The pixie-sized Morales only forces into obscene relief how burly, thick, and unfeminine Kate really is. Unless Al Roker had other commitments, Kate’s PR team should be fired -- because he surely would have made Kate seem a tad more girly. Granted, only a tad. (2) I’ll preface this second thought by saying that my father was a professional cameraman for Public Television for 21 years, so I anecdotally know a bit about how it works. Suffice it to say that with the right lighting, make-up, and camera angles, it is possible to make even the most hideous-looking person appear to be pretty darn attractive. That said, my first reaction upon seeing Kate was that she must have pissed off the crew something fierce. They revealed unflattering angles of Kate that I’m sure even she didn’t know existed – the back of her head comes to mind, but I’m getting ahead of myself. Let’s just say that the camera was not lovin’ Kate during this interview.

GoPoshGo said...

Okay, let’s get to the interview:

Natalie decides to start from the very beginning: “What was your childhood like, Kate?” As we view a photo of Kate at about 5 years old (which looks a LOT like Hannah, just with lighter hair – but sadly, with the same wonky eye), Kate says that she was the middle “forgotten” child of five. Wahh wahh. Strict upbringing, Christian schooling. In a sentence peppered with “umms” Kate says that she’s famous in her family for admonishing her mother about having five kids. Kate felt that “you lose something in the details” when you have so many. With a side-long-glance at the camera, she acknowledges the irony of her statement (iddn’t she cute???).

Natalie then asks what Kate’s relationship is NOW with her parents. Kate says that they e-mail each other, but they’re very different from each other. Kate starts to say “Nobody’s right” but is cut off by Natalie’s question of “Have you changed? Have they changed?” To which Kate says, “I think both of us have changed.” Kate says that there’s a lot in her childhood that wasn’t happy, but when Natalie presses for details Kate dismisses her with, “It would probably take me 10 years to figure it out.” Natalie then asks if Kate’s parents are involved grandparents, and Kate actually admits that they aren’t, and mostly by HER choosing. Kate babbles on about how after the tups were born everyone had an opinion that wasn’t necessarily her opinion, so she needed to take a break from them. To be honest, it was a bit strange to even hear Kate talk about a mother. I was so sure she was spawned from Satan’s bowels; I never even considered there was a human who would lay claim to actually birthing her. Natalie asks if she misses having her parents in her life, to which our ever reliable narcissist replies: “There’s definitely something missing when you don’t have supportive parents.” Just to translate: In Kate’s world, if you don’t agree with her, you don’t support her.

Natalie’s’ next question: Who DO you have on your side? To which Kate replies, “A very, very small group of people.” [which clearly no longer includes her hairdresser or PR team]. Natalie asks if it’s because Kate can’t trust people, to which Kate flicks back her possum hair with a flippant smile and says, “You almost can’t blame me.” She then goes on to lament the people who have “cashed her in.” Oh, dear Kate, WHEN will you learn the English language, including its idioms?? I do believe you mean that people have “cashed in on you” – although I can’t name anyone who has. More delusions; more bad English.

Cut to a montage of Kevin and Jodi – the people Kate feels “cashed her in.” Kate admits that her little brother often took punishment for her – as a small boy he would say, “Katie not did it, I did it.” Does she show any gratitude for this childhood sacrifice??? NO. She goes on to bemoan how he sold her out, refusing to give credence to the fact that he and Jodi are spot on in protecting the Gosselin kids. Kate goes on to say that she has one sister who supports her (CODE FOR: She doesn’t judge anything I do. I am her Goddess).

Kate then brings on the waterworks as she describes how she has to warn new friends about “taking on” a friendship with her. With a French-manicured finger, she wipes away a tear as she describes the loss of her friendship with her bestest friend, Famey – oops, I mean Jamie. Yes, folks, that’s her BFF who posted candid photos of the Gosselin kids, as well as photos of herself in Kate’s bathroom, on her public Facebook page. Jamie’s also the BFF who got Kate the free kitchen via her ex-husband’s job. Let’s face it, in Kate’s world “BFF” stands for “Befriended For Freebies.” BTW, what mother (regardless the number of kids) can maintain a household with perfectly manicured nails – much less a French manicure???? I believe the nails alone are evidence that Kate doesn’t do a whole lot more than delegating in the Gosselin household. But I digress…….

GoPoshGo said...

Cut to various clips from past episodes of Kate being her true self: Breathe-gate, etc. to which Natalie addresses the emasculation issue. Kate admits that she was hard on Jon, and in a series of questions whereby she interviews herself, she concludes that she isn’t proud of how she treated him.

Kate then lays out the kids’ most recent school pictures “like playing cards.” She says she sees “little balls of promise” when she looks at the photos. Spoken from any other mother I’d feel all warm and fuzzy; but coming from Kate, I can only interpret “promise” to mean “$$$$$$$$.”

After a commercial break, Natalie Morales comes back with a voiceover stating that despite all the craziness, the tabloids, the paparazzi, “remarkably, Kate has no regrets.” Back on the tawdry couch, Natalie states to Kate, “You would do it all again.” Kate agrees and then proceeds to self-interview about not being in control; not being able to predict all that has happened. Natalie’s next question is the pointed, “So, how real is the reality of Jon & Kate plus 8?” Kate answers, “Very real,” then proceeds to laugh as she continues with, “Because there’s a lot of things I’d take back if it weren’t.”

Kate then broaches the subject of how people began to question whether or not the show is good for the kids. She answers her own question: “The kids didn’t do anything different. There were a couple extra people present with cameras, and it was the same people who hung out with the kids off camera playing with them.” I wait with baited breath to see if Natalie will call her out on this ridiculous statement. Kate sits shaking her head, snarky dead eyes, as Natalie asks if the kids are being compromised or exploited. After a deep, dramatic sigh we get the now-famous quote of “Coming from a mom who was on bed-rest since the time I found out I was pregnant,” which without skipping a beat changes to “from 7-weeks pregnant;” who didn’t put anything in her mouth that wasn’t good for the kids, blah blah blah fought for every second of their existence, there’s nothing that could force her to put them in harm’s way [Nothing, that would be, except lots of money].

To Kate the show was a blessing because she was working with her children at her side, and for “all those seasons, we were happy with it” – HUH???? I grab the remote and hit rewind. Did she just refer to their life in “seasons”??? When asked if Jon enjoyed doing the show, Kate’s eyes take on a creepy, blank stare as she lists all the reasons he did. As I fight to hold interest in her endless droning, it dawns on me that Kate is possibly the most boring person to watched being interviewed. I check the clock, hoping the torture is almost over, only to discover to my horror that we’re only 15 minutes into this drivel.

“Do the children ever ask, though, why they’re on TV, and their friends aren’t?” Natalie inquires. After a few “no’s” from Kate, and a pregnant pause in which she looks to the ceiling (likely where the cue-cards with lies are hanging), she claims that the kids never asked questions until the paparazzi came on the scene. Cut to Kate being hounded by the “p-people,” escorted by an ever-attentive Steve. She states that when their marriage was on the rocks, she didn’t want the show to be too “drop-dead real,” less the kids have to see their parents marriage self-destruct on national TV someday. In one fell swoop Kate explains away all the “fake” episodes we were being fed, when the reality was that she and Jon had separated.

GoPoshGo said...

Hard hitting journalist Natalie lets that one slide, and moves on to: “Some have accused you of using the show as a paycheck.” Kate’s eyes search the ceiling for the cue-cards once more. Kate spews the same old line about never intending for the show to be their source of income, denies aspirations of becoming a huge celebrity, and admits that the show has become their paycheck. Followed immediately by the worn out claim that she “CAN’T GO BACK” and could never support eight kids as a “single mom” on a nurse’s salary. At this point I’m pleading out loud for Natalie to point out any or all of the following: that Kate is NOT a single mother; that Jon could provide a second income to support the family; and that many families, large and small, survive quite well on two average incomes. PLEASE, Natalie, make this woman explain herself!!!!!! Alas, my pleas go unheard, and Natalie’s next statement is, “Let’s talk finances.” Blah blah Jon took money. Blah blah the judge has ruled all money issues are settled for now.

“In terms of a separate account for the children, that’s secure?” Kate: “Secure.” Kate’s determined that the kids all go to college, and she’s very proud of the accounts she has set up. Good luck finding a college that provides a 4-year degree program for $10,000, I mumble to nobody in particular.

Kate babbles on for a while about not being able to get away from her life, and although I rewound that bit and watched it again, I could make no sense of it. She did end the jabbering with her other worn out desire for “peace.” Natalie jumps on this and suggests that peace actually is achievable by “stepping out of the spot light. Brava!!! Finally, Natalie. Oohhh, absolute daggers shoot from Kate’s good eye. The wonky one manages to look more evil than usual. Kate shakes her head, “We’re too far gone.” Natalie let’s this slide completely, and I start to wonder how much more of this softball interview I can take. I remember my doctor’s warning that the inhaler he prescribed today for my flu-turned-bronchitis could cause severe lightheadedness. Fingers crossed, fingers crossed – be right back – puff, puff, inhale, inhale. Ah, that should get me through a few more questions.

Kate is asked next what the “curses” of the show have been, and she cites the negativity, accusations, and paparazzi at the end of her driveway. After a commercial break, we’re told in a voiceover that during the last season of the show, Kate’s marriage had begun to implode. Back on the couch, Kate states that things were “really bad.” When asked, “What happened?” Kate claims that she doesn’t know, whatever happened it all happened so quickly. Really, because nothing makes a ten-year marriage fly by like belittling and berating your husband. When asked what the red flag was that let her know it was over, Kate provides her vaguest of vague answers to date: She doesn’t know. She thinks she was on a plane coming home from somewhere. And she realized they weren’t going to recover from this.

“Was it the show? The fame? The fortune? You being the bigger star?” [Kate’s wonky eye lights up for the briefest microsecond at this one] Kate: no, no, no, no. With her nurse’s salary and Jon’s IT job, the stress of trying to support the family would have ended their marriage much sooner. Natalie boldly suggests that many marriages hit rough spots, and they fight back. “But you called it quits. Why?” Ooohh … more daggers from the wonky eye. Kate claims she never quit anything in her life (except for her faith, family, friends, etc, but again Natalie fails to point this out). Knowing it’s going to be hard to put a positive spin on ending her marriage, Kate goes for the sympathy route … cue the waterworks. First it’s “our goals changed;” then Kate’s goals didn’t change “as a mom,” followed in the same breath with “his goals changed.” Well, WHICH is it, woman????

GoPoshGo said...

Kate rambles on for a few minutes about Jon staying home while she traveled, was “book touring,” and honored her contracts – all with him in agreeance, of course. Natalie’s eyes glaze over until Kate finally stops talking. She asks if Kate empathizes with Jon at all – 8 kids by age 27, not having a chance to really grow up… Now it’s Kate’s turn for her eyes to glaze over. I couldn’t be sure if the void look was due to the fact that she doesn’t know the definition of “empathy,” or if it was her soul-less, unempathic self seeping out. She makes a valid point (did I just type that??) when she says that once you’re a parent, it’s too late to bemoan a lost youth (okay, I’ll admit it, I dressed that up a bit for her) – her exact words: “It’s too late to wonder what should’ve, could’ve, would’ve.” And for a brief moment I wonder if she’s going to break out into a recitation of Dr. Seuss. Then I remember she doesn’t read. And move on.

Cue the tears again – and a giant gulp for effect – as she says that she still wakes up hoping the phone will ring and the old Jon will be there. Might she be referring to the old Jon who brought her coffee in bed, let her sleep til noon, took care of the kids, and was her constant punching bag for the better part of ten years? As I mull that over, I also can’t help but wonder how someone who can’t sleep at night manages to “wake up” every morning?

“How did you break the news of the divorce to the kids?” Natalie asks. Ugggh. Must I hear this again? Bottom line: they watered it down, never using the word “divorce;” Mady wasn’t surprised; Cara crumbled into a pile; the tups said, “okay, what’s for snack?” Custody arrangements are discussed, and Kate not-so-subtly implies that Jon is not holding up his end of childcare, saying that she’s there most of the time … but Jon is there as well. More tears about how hard it is to go through a difficult time alone, Kate admits to meltdowns.

After a commercial break, we come back to scenes of Kate and Natalie at The Grove, with Natalie’s voiceover claiming that the paparazzi were there before they even got out of the car. I rewound it, and the only cameras I saw were the NBC crew following them, and an occasional lookie-loo tourist taking a curiosity shot. “What is your relationship with the paparazzi?” Kate’s lips curl into an evil, Grinch-like grin as she laughs and says, “We don’t have one.” Her eyes have new light in them now that we’re talking about the paparazzi. Another voiceover by Natalie as we are treated to the piles of tabloid covers the Gosselins have graced this year: “… almost make Brad and Angelina seem like nobodies.” Sorry? Kate confesses that the mom-to-monster headline was the second most hurtful thing she read about herself, and describes how she turns the rags around when the kids are in the store with her. Blah blah blah. Then Natalie surprises us all and asks Kate point blank: “But why are you on this cover? Because you put yourself on it.” At this point I actually fear for the wee Morales’ safety. Kate’s eyes go positively dark and void of expression. She nods her head, and begins to answer without making eye contact with Natalie. I hope Natalie’s packin’ some serious heat because Kate looks positively demonical. Slowly, Kate says that she signed up for a reality show, not to be a tabloid staple. “And that’s the curse,” offers Natalie – most likely to save her own skin – and Kate agrees, “That’s the curse.” Friends again. No, but wait, Natalie pushes the issue a bit further. “Can’t you say your ‘done’ and be done done?” In typical Kate logic, she reasons that if she said she “was done” that would just generate 5 more tabloid covers wondering “why is she done??” I try to shake my head in disgust, but at this point it hurts too much to move.

GoPoshGo said...

The conversation shifts back to the paparazzi, and Natalie basically scolds Kate for exposing the kids to them. Kate denies she’s responsible for the kids knowing the p-word, but Natalie isn’t buying it. She goes on to ask if Kate understands why many people see her and Jon’s actions as “the utmost in selfishness and arrogance and being self-absorbed?” WOW – when in the past 38 minutes did you grow those, Natalie?? I want to remind Natalie that Kate’s a lot bigger than she is, but of course I can’t, so I must sit in helpless fear for her safety once again. Without blinking her wonky eye, Kate diverts the blame to the paparazzi: She can’t control what they write about her. She is “seeking to be positive, have integrity, speak with grace.” I’m sorry, but where in any of that drivel is the answer to Natalie’s question? Kate “can’t accept that it is selfish, because it doesn’t feel selfish” (although we’re never quite sure of the “it” she is referring to). “It feels hurtful, it feels like I am self-LESS.” Lordy be, did I just hear that correctly? It’s at this point in the interview that I consider sniffing glue. Thank GOD it’s time for a commercial break.

We’re back, and the topic is now “rumors of infidelity.” Kate’s response to the allegations of her affair with Steve: “It is so unthinkable to me that to have to think about it makes me sick.” Um, Kate, that’s not a yes or a no answer. But Natalie lets it go. Kate goes on to describe how the Neilds are her great friends, and how they support her and the kids through hard times, yadda yadda yadda. And lo and behold, guess who’s at the interview with Kate? Yep, Steve is seated just off camera. Kate says she needs a body guard for her safety … because “at the end of the day I need to come home safely to my kids.” Ahhh, she does it all for the kids, that’s right.

As to the issue of Jon’s alleged philandering: “It didn’t surprise me. Did it shock me? Yes.” At this point Natalie’s facial expression begins to change. Having remained poker-faced and monotone throughout the interview, her mouth now twists to the side – an expression suspiciously similar to the smirk one has when making a concentrated effort NOT to laugh. Having never seen Natalie conduct an interview before, I’m left to wonder if she is desperately holding back a giant guffaw, or if she just has an unfortunate facial tick.

More rambling discussion of Jon’s dating and whether Kate knows Hailey Glassman. She confesses to meeting her once for about 2 minutes a few years ago. She “dives” for the phone when Jon calls because, hey, they’re still both the kids’ parents. Can-do Kate will not let his screwing around interfere with communication about the kids. He’s the father of her kids, and always will be. Mercy, another commercial break.

Kate has learned more lessons than she thinks “can fill 10 books.” Oh Lord, please don’t “write” 10 more. The single most life lesson from 5 seasons: She cannot control the past, present, or future. She has learned to focus on the positive.

As for the future: “Do you still love Jon?” Cue the waterworks, “A part of me always will.” The ideal situation for the future is if Jon could put his anger aside (because, of course, Kate claims she has worked through most of hers), and get to a point where they can converse like two adults. Is the show hurting the kids? “There is no ‘hurting the kids.’” The kids miss the crew, miss filming, miss the opportunities, miss the fun that we had. I do too. Ahh, finally the truth.

Coming from “the school of hard work,” Kate will do whatever it takes to provide for her kids (anything except going back to nursing it seems). Her kids deserve life “served to them on a golden platter.” Now there’s a valuable life lesson that will get them far. She fails to elaborate on why her kids are so deserving – I think we’re all supposed to know already.

GoPoshGo said...

When asked if they still go to church, Kate looks down and says, “Uhhhhhhh, we doooo,” then looks at Natalie and admits they haven’t been in a while. From what I could make of the convoluted explanation, it’s just too difficult to go without Jon – since it was something they used to do as a family. I suppose that means they also no longer eat, shop, or have any outings, since they also did those things as a family.

And finally Natalie wraps up this torturous hour by giving Kate the opportunity to address her fans. Kate thanks them for everything – support, love, e-mails, letters, gifts (ESPECIALLY THE GIFTS), wishes etc. She confesses she’s “come a far way,” admitting that fans used to annoy her, but now she sees that they’ve made her who she is. And the Sheeple cry, AMEN!

In the course of recording Kate’s responses to Natalie Morales’ interview, I noticed a pattern in how she answers questions. I came up with a categorization I call the 5-D’s of Kate Gosselin’s Truth Avoidance
Deny
Divert (put the attention on a different, vaguely related issue)
Default to clich├ęs (it’s for the kids; we can’t go back)
Deliberate with self (ask a question; answer the question)
Defame (attack good name of someone … most often Jon)

I am now going to do something less painful than watching this woman. Perhaps pulling out my fingernails with a pair of pliers.

Wonky World said...

Go Posh Go: Your posts are always a favorite of mine and you have outdone yourself with your recap. Thanks for a very funny read of a very unfunny situation.

Your 5 D's hit the nail squarely on the head, which, come to think of it, is what I'd have wanted to do had I been forced to actually watch an hour of Kate lying her @** off.

Thanks for doing the dirty work of us.

Really enjoy your insight, humor, and writing style.

Calgary7 said...

Thanks for the great recap and for "taking one for the team".

I tried to watch but gave up as she started to whine, snivel bitch and complain about her family.

As a PR tactic to make her more appealing to key demographic by showing a softer more feminine look --> I think it failed. I've never seen such a weird setup with both of the people so far away on a couch.


For someone who wants to go into this business as a professional, there is a clear lack of preparation.

Using sample Question & Answers, business executives and others develop the skills to tell their story and engage the media & audience quickly.

Kate seems to think that she can just "wing it".

nutty said...

Good job.
I am convinced the camera people hate her.. these shots were so unflattering. Where was Kates "people" to prevent this.

Trust me Natalie was probably thinking about fruitcake during this interview.

Anonymous said...

Haha! Bravo. Excellent recap. Hilarious story telling, too!

huh said...

The kids know that their mom is away becuase she is "working".

What's going to happen when they find out that the "work" were these interviews where she slammed thier dad, stayed in hotels accompanied by bodyguards and being all dolled up.

kate resents her parents, wait till these kids grow up....

hmm said...

For someone who wants to go into this business as a professional, there is a clear lack of preparation.
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I agree she is not good at this.

Also, keeping track of her lies is another

JONS8 said...

Her kids deserve life “served to them on a golden platter.”
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Oh great 8 more 23 year olds just bumming, not doing anything with their life, no goals.

notstupid said...

Back on the couch, Kate states that things were “really bad.”
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I think the really bad times was the summer when she made the kids have daily picnics at the FRONT of the house to let everyone see how great a mom she was.

. said...

With her nurse’s salary and Jon’s IT job, the stress of trying to support the family would have ended their marriage much sooner.


Yah know the Dilleys seem to have been just fine with a nurses salary and the dad's job.

They did the rare interview.

And they did not have 5 seasons worth of salary and freebies to sit on.

How come you cant do it?

logical said...

all along ive been on team jon, thisinterview just reminds me why!!

eileen said...

Go Posh Go - Thank you for your humor in reporting this "special" on Khate...it alleviates my need to throw a shoe at the TV screen

These lines are especially hilarious:

her exact words: “It’s too late to wonder what should’ve, could’ve, would’ve.” And for a brief moment I wonder if she’s going to break out into a recitation of Dr. Seuss. Then I remember she doesn’t read. And move on.

Life on a Golden Platter said...

JONS8 said...
Her kids deserve life “served to them on a golden platter.”
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Oh great 8 more 23 year olds just bumming, not doing anything with their life, no goals.

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how true!!

goawayfools said...

Loved it GoPoshGo. I'm cracking up as I read this on my phone..."elephantine"???...heh heh heh. People must think I'm nuts. Oh and add two more D's to your list...as in displaying those ridiculous double D's. Great job. Elephantine...bwaahaaaahaaa!!!!

alana said...

"vain attempt to dwarf her colossal frame and elephantine legs."

Perfect.

dustilies said...

GoPoshGo,

Your name says it all--you go, girl. Thanks so much for looking into the abyss of mirrors and smoke that is "Kate's Story" and retrieving something really true.

And egads--why doesn't she know how to dress herself for these sit-down interviews on national TV? I agree the crew did not like her--horrible angles! I really don't want to pick on a woman who doesn't have great legs, but for crying out loud has she never heard the terms "below the knee" or "trousers."

I recall an article in Vogue in the early 80s that had suggestions to correct all sorts of figure flaws through dress. They said "the only incurable figure flaw is thick ankles. If you have thick ankles, you should wear pants or boots. Or both."

Okay, maybe my friends and I added the "or both," but it is still a way we can crack each other up, all these years later.

Becca said...

Great recap! I snorted at Dr Seuss part.

The whole thing made me slightly nauseated while I watched. It was so fake.

And then Jon taking his turn by speaking at a NYC temple accompanied by King-of-the-Media-Whores Rabbi Shmuli was the icing on the cake for me.

I'd stop paying any attention except it's such a fascinating trainwreck of a family.

Willie Wonkyeye said...

Great job on the recrap GoPoshGo - Much appreciation for "taking one for the team". I really wish Kate would get called out on some of her answers, just once! Sounds like Natalie came close to doing a decent job but sadly, fell short. (sigh)

Janine said...

Thank you GoPoshGo... I couldn't wait for a re-cap and it was worth the wait!

I wrote on another thread (or maybe not) that I saw that Monday (this week) K8 was seen and photographed picking up her kids with a Not-a-Nanny and two cars ('wishing she had the big Dodge, not'... it's much better for her carbon footprint to take her big Flintstone toe in her strappy high heels and stomp all over in gas guzzler SUVs)
anyway, I digress!
K8 was seen yelling at her kids (it might have been raging) and "calling a middle son #4"
I don't know exactly what about that bothers me most. Just that single instance of her not "harming her kids, doing everything for her kids while giving it to them on a Golden Platter" Was she cranky because it was her day to pick them up? Or that the interview was coming up and she was out of sorts... and nervous? If she can't hold it together when she knows for SURE people are watching, what is she doing when they are not? Thank God for the "Not-a-Nanny" and any other eyes. Hope they are strong and can stand up to her if the kids are being neglected, abused or mistreated. It isn't the first time, we know that. I get a bad day, now and again... but she is caught time and time again.

Anonymous said...

GoPoshGo...

EXCELLENT RE-CAP.....

I watched the torture, but at least you made it humourous for me to have to re-live it again...LOL @ wonky eye and the cued crying !!

She is a narcissist to the max....what a phony.

Thanks again....really enjoyed your recap !!!

Carezee said...

Thanks GoPoshGo that was so hilarious! I sat laughing out loud to myself. I am not sure if you are a writer for a living but you should be. In fact maybe you might want to collaborate with Kate on her next book. You could make her life so much more interesting than it really is.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

GoPoshGo said... Kate confesses that the mom-to-monster headline was the second most hurtful thing she read about herself,
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Anyone have a guess what the MOST hurtful thing was? A snarky question, I know, but I can't help myself. I vote for the negative comments about her tusch during her bikini phase.

great recap, BTW -- thanks!

Shari said...

Great Recap Posh :)

So, am I understanding that she and Jamie are no longer friends? When did that happen?

Other than that, this interview sounds like the same old crap she spews every chance she gets. Let's hope she and her new BFF, Natalie Morales, flush down the drain together.

Janine said...

Love the 5 "D"s Very inspired.

Today... in reality, our nation has suffered another massive loss.
K8 and her antics are now off my radar while I pray for those families and our country.

readerlady said...

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One reason the Dilleys have been successful is because they do truly do it all for their kids. I loved Becky Dilley's response when asked why they didn't do a reality show and she said that they didn't want to interfere with their childrens' lives. And the kids seem to be growing up to be responsible, poised, smart and compassionate young people.

For the Moment? said...

Thank you GoPosh...I didn't watch but I got all the visuals I need...I was laughing out loud and the show would've never done that. My child is like what are you laughing at?

um and dumber said...

I think Kate was fishing, hinting, begging Natalie to ask her what the #1 most hurtful headline was that she's seen. Natalie, to her credit, didn't take the bait, or at least it didn't make the final cut. Wanna bet the "#1 most hurtful article" was one that puts Jon in a bad light? Like the "I despise Kate" one, for example. She is a conniving witch; thank goodness she's too stupid to pull off her bull in any real way.

GraceLancaster14 said...

The entire divorce is a scam! We have all been played! Catch the video of Jon and Hailey as well as Jon and the Rabi, mix in a little nonsense from Kate's intreview redux(XXIV) and presto... an opportunity to renegoiate the contract! Mark this posters words... they will get back together. There will be more shows of Kate and kids and more $ for all.

Canadian Mom said...

GoPoshGo - u are a talented just-snarky-enough-to-LOL writer!

Unless I see actual VIDEO proof of those sweet kids plucked from Kate's womb, I refuse to believe it.

NO mother could be so cold and callous and self-absorbed.

ihatefrogs said...

One reason the Dilleys have been successful is because they do truly do it all for their kids. I loved Becky Dilley's response when asked why they didn't do a reality show and she said that they didn't want to interfere with their childrens' lives. And the kids seem to be growing up to be responsible, poised, smart and compassionate young people.

And most importantly the Dilley family has managed to have FUN, go on TRIPS, form lasting memories, experiences, relationships, participate in tradition(s) to name a select few, WITHOUT TLC, a camera crew or a reality tv show!!

Canadian Mom said...

I'd rather pour bleach into my eyes than see Kate on television AGAIN.

Kate is such an enchanting creature.

jayley said...

Appreciation and thanks for your great recap GoPoshGo.

Best part for me = "..nothing makes a ten-year marriage fly by like belittling and berating your husband".

Hope you feel better soon.

Fed Up said...

GoPoshGo: Glad the wine & inhaler helped you get thru it. Thanks!!! Love the cue cards on the ceiling!! "Kevin Kreider in drag". LMAO Great job. And of course the #1 Most Hurtful tabloid was....The Affair With Steve!!!! I guessed that immediately. Truth hurts. And when Kate layed out the kids pictures like "playing cards" I thought, Yep, like playing Poker for money. Kate is Gambling & those are her playing cards!!! And the stakes are high. And it's the kid's money. Might I add you also captured Natalie's thoughts & expressions perfectly. A toast & puff to GoPoshGO!!! I would have sniffed the glue! :)

Im_in_PR said...

Excellent, excellent recap!

Button Button said...

Very well written! GoPoshGo, thanks. I needed those laughs.

I sure wish I could watch Kate reading it.

Virginia Mom said...

Thank you, GoPoshGo, for enduring this! I saw a few minutes on TV and it grated on my nerves--even curiosity couldn't get me through it on YouTube.

My 2 cents...

She comes from "the school of hard work"? What? That would be the school of HARD KNOCKS. It's kind of fun to watch someone butcher cliches as much as she does. Typically, cliches are cliches because everyone remembers the words in them! It would be fun to put together a list.

"Cash me in" vs. "cash in on me". Say, I'll bet there are a few family and friends who wish they could cash you in, Kate! "Here, take this woman. Can I get trading stamps or a gift card in exchange, please?"

"My kids deserve life served to them on a golden platter."

This probably wins the most-commented-on comment award. But who can resist? There's no such thing as a golden platter! People eat on silver, not gold. Eating off "silver platters" has been the standard of prestige, royalty, and wealth through the ages. Oops, not any more! It's gold now, baby! :D

But beyond that, the phrase is derogatory. "He EXPECTS to have everything handed to him on a silver platter." This, in the sense of "he doesn't want to work, he doesn't want to earn anything."

To actually use that phrase in reference to your children and mean it in a positive way defies belief and is deep insight into a warped sense of entitlement.

And then...even SILVER isn't good enough?

I have to agree with everyone on the camera angle and lighting. That was the weirdest interview set-up I've ever seen. AWKWARD and put me off immediately. The rear shots of the hair were a scream. Literally. I think I was screaming.

"And a possum that has taken on a whole new life on her head." I laughed aloud when I read this and am laughing again typing it! Too funny, GoPoshGo.

The 5 D's were an excellent summary of the whole...whatever it was that happened there.

Marge said...

“Is that Kevin Kreider in drag???”

LMAO, that's exactly how she looked

Thanks for sharing... said...

Khate is the malaprop Queen!

Murders the language...

Tangerine Tanya said...

GoPoshGo-Very well written.

Friend in New Mexico said...

Great recap!

Did you notice how Kate laid out the pictures of her children as if she were laying out tarot cards?

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

Thanks GoPoshGo for this great re-cap. Thanks for your insights and humour and for taking time to do this and for plowing through this mess. You must come from "the school of hard work". BTW, I also enjoy your regular posts.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

Months ago, someone posted here that when Kate first saw the ultra sound of the babies, she saw six lottery balls. I think of that comment often and how true it is. How sad. How monstrous.

Lyndsae said...

Excellent recap, GoPoshGo! Thanks!

I watched the interview, and there's one thing (OK many things, but one main thing) that I don't understand. Why was Kate wearing full evening makeup? She had the smokey eyes, defined cheekbones, dramatic lips--the whole look. Take yourself seriously much?

Can't See Sheep said...

Go Posh Go: Magnificent recap, you dear, brave soul! The 5 D's are spot on. Loved the description of kate and her colossal size. There you go, maybe she can get a job playing an Amazon in a B movie, they weren't exactly gentle with men either.


She then goes on to lament the people who have “cashed her in.”
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What does she think she is now, poker chips?

Maybe her next book should be on katie-speak, you know like the redneck dictionary Jeff Foxworthy wrote. Christmas is coming, maybe someone will buy her a dictionary and a book on grammar, maybe even a thesaurus.


Kate then lays out the kids’ most recent school pictures “like playing cards.”
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First poker chips, now playing cards, love the on going gambling theme, really fits in so very nicely, I'd like to give kate a Flush, just a Flush, no Royal Flush, not doing anything fancy that might clog the toilet. Flush her like a dead goldfish.

Natalie should have checked the backs of those photos/ cards, maybe they're like baseball cards & she has each of the kids stats on the back, such as current earing potential, future projected earning potential & so on.

Can't See Sheep said...

hen did Kate & Jamie stop being friends? Didn't Jamie get her enough freebies or has she raised the price


Virginia Mom said...
And then...even SILVER isn't good enough?
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Nope, silver requires work, it has to be polished.

Momof3kidsand3dogs said...

The Dilleys also managed to get a dog and actually keep it. Also, a cat. I have read about this family off and on over the past few years as they are the same age as my oldest. The children have turned out to be talented, self-confident individuals. They have experienced a normal childhood packed full of memories all without the "benefit" of cameras following them around. I have often wondered what Keith and Becky Dilley must think about the Gosselins and this whole mess. (If they even follow it.) After all, they could have easily chosen the same path for their family and wisely didn't.

Vanessa said...

Great Re-cap!
If she's going to use cliches, then use them properly, she's sooo dense. "I can't control the past, present or future?" WHAAAA???
Isn't the mantra- I can't control the past, but I CAN control the present and future? Oh, I get it!
It's her way of covering all her bases, she's not responsilbe for what she's done in the past, she won't DO anything to change her present (since she can't control it) and whatever happens in the future, AGAIN is not in her control. Way to go "CAN-DO-Khate"
Just sit there and let your world and your kids' world crumble while you just watch, or actually, be the cause of it.

Yup, the bodyguard/affair answers she's been giving do smell fishy!
Whoever compared it to Clinton's non-answer was bang-on. There IS something going on, whether it's become physical or not, they are playing a game...be it fliring, or little innuendos. She was a married woman of 8! (technically STILL is married ) You DO NOT SPEND THAT MUCH TIME AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY WITH ANOTHER MAN, period! She calls him one of her best friends, how many times do you think she's put that bowling ball head of hers on his shoulder for her never ending pity party?

just wondering said...

Awesome recap! It's the first thing I read this morning and it will keep me smiling for the rest of the day! Great job!

And I haven't seen that much lense filtering since Doris Day demanded it back in the 60's!

For the Moment? said...

I read an article that Kate is all about soft lighting. She forgot about the angles. And this person Mr. Wow? didn't mention the fact that she had only eye visible throughout the interview. I am inclined to agree w/ the poster that she may have been covering an earpiece as well. Natalie is getting high regard for her interview. I only watched the clips. I forget that not everyone knows Kate's lies like those of us who have seen every episode. I guess there is a certain protocol for interviews where a dig should be subtle and open to interpretation.

I watched the pumpkin patch episode last night and she didn't have tight sqinty almond eyes or a wonky eye and her forehead was all over the place and her eyebrows were not halfway up to her hairline. She also did not have full lips; in short, she looked like a completely different person. It's not that she had it, it is that she lies about it.

Not a fan of either said...

Did I enjoy your recap? Yes, I did!

kimberlyl said...

I'd hate to think that Kate reading these comments is in part what set her off and made her take it out on her kids in that parking lot. Parents should be able to control their emotions but since we have seen that Kate doesn't do that very well, isn't it possible that we are contributing to child abuse by making fun of her for our own amusement? If emotional abuse could be reflected in visible bruises, I'd hate to see what those eight kids look like.

Penny said...

You know, I thought maybe I was just being harsh when I saw shots of the interview, but I now know that the majority feel the same as me. Kate looked like an Amazon woman sitting on that couch. She was scrunched into the corner and she was sitting awkwardly. I kept thinking, "Cross your legs". She just looked so unnatural and frumpy. Her legs looked huge and those shoes didn't help any.

I just found it fascinating how she looked compared to how she looks when out and about with the "p-people" taking her picture. Her hair looked like it was about to fly away.

I am not one to focus on appearances, but couldn't help but think how much someone must not like her to let her sit on TV and look like that. You know when that show was edited that the people who do that professionally knew how horrible she looked. I wonder why they let it slide. Why didn't they tell her to sit up and cross her legs? Or, tell her to put on a different pair of shoes? It just looked so unnatural.

SafetyTrain said...

nutty said...

Good job.
I am convinced the camera people hate her.. these shots were so unflattering. Where was Kates "people" to prevent this.
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I'm quite sure even Kate's people hate her at this point.

Charlie Rose said...

Funniest recap by far! Thanks GoPoshGo! I loved the part about Kevin Kreider. :)

Nyk said...

So when everyone's eating off the "golden platters" will the Gosselins get platinum ones?

missycristin said...

Having esteem issues myself regarding my appearance, I have always ignored the comments about Kate's. However, after seeing this interview, I have to agree about the cankle thing. What a poor wardrobe choice.

Corrin said...

Here is what I think is the main thing that bugs me about her whole reason for not going church. Things happen everyday to people whether it be divorce or the death of a spouse that make life physichally and emotionally harder but I very rarely see people stop doing normal everyday things because of it. Any true christian would not look at church as something that was a family thing and now its to hard to go without dad. A true christian would be at church because that the best place for a child who is going through so much change at once.

Kates selfishness is unbelievable as an army wife if we gave up on all our family events everytime our husbands deployed our kids would have no sense of routine or normalcy. The most important thing to do for kids when changes like this happen is to continue to do things that are normal for them so that they do feel like there whole life is changing.

Well thats just my opinion. Thanks for the great recap. I hope Kate enjoys her kids when their teenagers because she is raising them when the wrong priorities,

HW said...

I'm not usually one to criticize somebody's appearance but it is clear that Kate's stylists are either powerless in convincing her what looks flattering, or they hate her.

I'd like to see Tim Gunn give an opinion on how she dresses herself.

hate4k8 said...

Wait a minute, wasn't Jamie the friend they showed on the Time to Organize episode, where Khate claimed that she couldn't live without her and that they were such a good team? And in this interview she is claiming she lost her friendship with Jamie? Are these two different Jamies? I'm confused...

Against Exploitation said...

I don't post often but I truely enjoyed your recap so I HAD to take a minute to post my THANKS. Thank you GoPoshGo!

Penny said...

And in this interview she is claiming she lost her friendship with Jamie? Are these two different Jamies? I'm confused...

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Nope, it's the same Jamie.

Penny said...

It's the same Jamie. The very same one who posted pictures of the kids all over Facebook. That has nothing to do with the paps and everything to do with wanting to ride off someone else's coat tails.

Im_in_PR said...

I am not one to focus on appearances, but couldn't help but think how much someone must not like her to let her sit on TV and look like that. You know when that show was edited that the people who do that professionally knew how horrible she looked. I wonder why they let it slide. Why didn't they tell her to sit up and cross her legs? Or, tell her to put on a different pair of shoes? It just looked so unnatural.

Her PR person takes the fall for that, and the TLC PR rep. THey were on set with Kate and are paid handsomely to make sure everything in an interview is "just so" and these two PR people obviously did not. I'm surmising that it is all part of TLC's plan to jettison Kate soon.

Beach Lover said...

Thank you, GoPoshGo, for one of the greatest recaps ever. I couldn't, wouldn't, shouldn't watch the scam show and so didn't. You brought it to us in a funny, intelligent and insightful way. Many thanks.

Im_in_PR said...

And in this interview she is claiming she lost her friendship with Jamie? Are these two different Jamies? I'm confused...

She claims that the "pressure" and "p-people" made her lose her friendship with Jamie. But the truth is that Jamie was going behind Kate's back and posting very private photos of the Gosselin kids and Kate on her facebook.

She dumped Jamie because Jamie was a sleazeball. But it sounded better to make it sound like the world makes it too hard on Kate's friends so they all just leave her.

The reality is that Kate dumps everyone when she uses them up. Jamie just got dumped because she was a user too and Kate found out.

CanineDivine said...

I'VE GOT IT! I've finally figured out the "golden platter" comment. Just needed to use convoluted Khate logic.

Gold = money = paper [bills]
platter = plate

Therefore, her equivalent of "golden platter" is the paper plates she's always feeding her kids off of.

GoPoshGo said...

Thanks for the generous comments --much appreciated! I always thought it would be fun to write a recap --and it was. I highly recommend it to anyone who needs to 'get their snark out.'

Warning: It's pure torture having to pay attention to Kate's every word and action. Pure. Torture. Forget waterboarding -- I think we have a whole new method for getting the terrorists to talk.

Hats off to the recappers who have gone before me. I have a whole new level of respect for you all. :)

Two clueless idiots said...

OK, my curiosity finally got the best of me and I watched about 60 seconds on YouTube (with volume OFF) to see what you all meant by the unflattering camera angles comments. I totally get it - who in the world recommended that she go on TV wearing a dress that short? Only a supermodel can get away with outfits like that in that particular pose! What was far more disturbing to me than the linebacker look, however, was the eye makeup! Oh my goodness, who in the WORLD did her makeup? I honestly think Kate is a reasonably attractive woman when she's not all "hookered" out, but in this instance she looks like a teenage girl who's going through her "goth" stage...Or a preschool girl who got into mommy's makeup and painted it all over her face. I was horrified by the makeup! Maybe she was previewing her Halloween costume???

fidosmommy said...

OK, I didn't watch, so I have no idea what Kate said that would indicate her relationship with Jamie Cole Ayers is "lost".

Can someone quote that part of the interview - in context - here for me, please! Thank you in advance.

Carolina said...

My apologies if someone has already posted this.From EW's Ken Tucker in his review of the interview:

"Meanwhile, backstage, Kate was busy trying out some new gray eye-liner that made her look as though she’d rubbed the ashes of her burned-out soul onto her eyelids."

Perfect and hilarious.

Angel1 said...

Excellent recap! Thanks for taking one for the team, GoPoshGo!

MotherGoose518 said...

Dear Kate;

My husband is a nurse. I am a full time stay at home homeschooling homemaking mom. We are expecting our 6th child. We do not get any help from anyone, and do not have ANY credit card debt.

I know many single income families as large as my own and larger (one family at my church has 10 children) who all exist on one income and hard work - we cook real meals, drive reasonable vehicles within our means, give up things like Starbucks, spa days, and fashinable new clothes. Each of our individual families is succesful because we work together - each member of the family contributes and we take time to not only invest in our children's education but also to teach them life skills and lessons. Husbands and wives work together, complenting one another with their respective roles in the marriage and home. This as opposed to working against each other and tearing the family apart as you have. If I thought you teachable I would send you copies of Dr. Laura's books The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands and In Praise of the Stay At Home Mom, as well as Debi Pearl's Created To Be His Helpmeet.

As Proverbs says, "there is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to destruction" and "a wise woman builds her home, a foolish woman tears it down with her bare hands".

Sin is not without consequences. Even repentance can not protect you from consequences.

Signed,
Wife, mother of 6, child of God. Not in that order.

mommadiane5 said...

Go Posh Go,
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! I loved your recap. Thank you.

With the way that Kate (and Jon) butcher the english language, it just amazes me to think that Kate thinks she belongs on tv.

Today on the View, they were talking about people who cry all the time and how employers think you are unstable when they see that.....maybe, they were thinking about Kate.

On the msn page they had an article about 10 celebrities who had talk shows that bombed. In the paragraph about Chevy Chase, they said that your audience has to feel like you( the talk show host) are their friend for your show to be successful. That is exactly where I think Kate will fail because she has trouble being anybodys friend.

OK, I also think that Kate has trouble speaking, in general. The other day, there was an accident and our local news was interviewing a high school boy who happened to see it. Not one ummm...not one. And, he didn't rehearse or have an editing team.

I wonder what happened to Jamie...maybe, it was the In Touch article that hinted at Kate and Jamie's relationship. ???

But, again, thank you for watching so I did not have to.

Trudy said...

I read somewhere (if I find it I'll post it) that when Kate was on the infamous bedrest, she went into Jon's Dad's dentist office yelling at his dad because he was late bringing her, her lunch.

Emma's Mom said...

Her kids deserve life “served to them on a golden platter.”
What an arrogant, self-centered egotistical, narcissistic, self-righteous, lonely piece of work that woman is.
So, who thinks she and Jon are going to stage a reconciliation for one more round of millions?

Merrilee said...

Im_in_PR said...
I am not one to focus on appearances, but couldn't help but think how much someone must not like her to let her sit on TV and look like that. You know when that show was edited that the people who do that professionally knew how horrible she looked. I wonder why they let it slide. Why didn't they tell her to sit up and cross her legs? Or, tell her to put on a different pair of shoes? It just looked so unnatural.
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Ha! I am all for anything that makes Kate look bad. I think it's a hoot!

Just Wondering said...

Do you think she could have been talking about Beth when she talked about the loss of her BFF? Didn't Jamie just do an interview with one of the rag mags?

ManicNarcissism said...

Her eyes have always been almond shaped and the eye has always been wonky:

http://ready2beat.com/entertainment/kate-gosselin-childhood-pictures-so-cute/linkout

ManicNarcissism said...

Look at those pics I just posted. No wonder she married the son of a dentist. She needed major work.

Maude said...

huh said:
What's going to happen when they find out that the "work" were these interviews where she slammed thier dad, stayed in hotels accompanied by bodyguards and being all dolled up.

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Or having multiple surgical procedures to enhance her appearance!

Maude said...

kimberlyl said:
isn't it possible that we are contributing to child abuse by making fun of her for our own amusement?

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I just can't take responsibility for choices Kate makes as a mother. Choices the rest of us make everyday, and from what I've read here over the months, choices well made by all of you. She chooses to verbally and emotionally abuse those kids everyday. Stress is not an excuse for abuse. There is no excuse. Even for Queen Katie Irene.

Heidi said...

Am I remember incorrectly? Didn't the governor of PA set up college funds for the tups shortly after they were born? So the question about the "secure" college funds is mute - they are being paid for by the fine tax payers of Pennsylvania.

Janine said...

Looking at the pictures, she seems to have developed the hair over the eye look fairly young. As far as the teeth... with all of societies enhancement ideals... I think installing perfect, porceline veneers is the most radical of all. I saw a young, beautiful actress who CLEARLY changed her whole mouth with veneers. It's hard for them to wrap their mouth around their new smile and looks so fake. K8 is doing whatever the latest trend says it's cool to do... but natural is always much better... when the fake outside competes with the fake inside, there is nothing left.

Ihateinternetrumors said...

Once again, NO the state of Pennsylvania did NOT fund college funds. The accounts were merely set up so that people could donate. The state committed NO funds to the twins or tups.

Sami said...

We’re back, and the topic is now “rumors of infidelity.” Kate’s response to the allegations of her affair with Steve: “It is so unthinkable to me that to have to think about it makes me sick.” Um, Kate, that’s not a yes or a no answer. But Natalie lets it go.

Something that's always struck me as odd, even before the divorce was announced and Jon was first fighting allegations of infidelity, was that for Kate questioning her integrity was unthinkable. But, questioning her husbands? Completely fine.

Not a fan of either said...

I wonder if Kate would understand when I say, and I truly mean this, that I think Becky Dilley is a beautiful woman.

Janine said...

Hi Kimberly... I am sure K8 has a sense of what is being said, whether she reads or not, whether it's this forum, or not. The fact is, the comments are directly related to her actions. If she were to step out of the public eye, live her life as any mom would quietly, helping with homework, teaching her daughters how to be homemakers, or running them to soccer practice and showing the boys that she does love their dad for their sake and encourage that bond... there would be nothing to get upset about. I can promise if she stopped the PR blitz and looked inside her motives and truly did what was best for the kids, not only would we not witness her abusing her kids in the public... maybe she wouldn't do it in private. This site is VALUABLE because it is the eyes and ears of people who genuinely care (love) those kids. It may be that Social Workers are watching this blog too. I hope K8 or her few friends do monitor the site. I hope Jon does too. Don't care about the rest. TLC can go down by themselves. I hope this forces some kind of intervention if she continues to lose it with or without cameras. It isn't the blog that sends her out speeding in her High School Clothes to yell at her children in front of the "P" people. She does that all by herself.

ManicNarcissism said...

Sami said...

We’re back, and the topic is now “rumors of infidelity.” Kate’s response to the allegations of her affair with Steve: “It is so unthinkable to me that to have to think about it makes me sick.” Um, Kate, that’s not a yes or a no answer. But Natalie lets it go.

Something that's always struck me as odd, even before the divorce was announced and Jon was first fighting allegations of infidelity, was that for Kate questioning her integrity was unthinkable. But, questioning her husbands? Completely fine.

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What I felt was odd was her not trashing Jon, her calling the demise of the marriage mutual, and her not being able to recall any time frame or subject that started the decline.

ManicNarcissism said...

Heidi said...

Am I remember incorrectly? Didn't the governor of PA set up college funds for the tups shortly after they were born? So the question about the "secure" college funds is mute - they are being paid for by the fine tax payers of Pennsylvania.

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This is false. Is there some law of Gosselin land that states that once every month this must be stated as fact? My sarcasm is not explicitly at you Heidi.

http://www.ltgovernor.state.pa.us/ltgovernor/cwp/view.asp?a=1147&q=440450

A TAP 529 can be opened for as little as $25, there is a one time set up fee of $50, and a $25 annual fee for maintenance. There are ways to lessen these fees (minimum contributions, etc.), but we will just assume the maximum. Money can be used for College at most private and public institutions in the United States. There are no income restrictions on opening or maintaining these accounts. Anyone can contribute. (s: http://pa529gsp.uii.upromise.com/benefits/easeFlexibility.html)

Whether the Governor/PA had to pay these fees, or who has been keeping up with the annual fees (if even necessary and not initially waived) on these 8 accounts is unknown. Also, how much besides the $25 minimal contribution to set up the account is unknown.

What we do know: TAP529 accounts are set up with a minimal contribution of $25 (could be any amount over) for each of the 8 children. PA did not give a full pass to any PA college.

NoUse4Kate said...

GPG you did a great job. You think that they can't go any lower, and they do. I hope sooner, rather than later, their 15 minutes dries up and we no longer have to hear about them any longer.

As always, I hope the best for the children, as do all of you I am sure.

ManicNarcissism said...

I'm not sure about the veneers. She stated on the show about Mady's braces that she got braces from the same place and that she was pregnant with the tups when they came off but not positive about that. I think she said she got them off right before her hospital stay.

I think they looked normal until the whitening and the fake smiling.

jibberjabbers said...

I'm surprised no one has mentioned how many times Kate looked away from the Interviewer every time she had to come up with an answer.

Signs of deception and guilt.

For the Moment? said...

ManicNarcissism said...
Her eyes have always been almond shaped and the eye has always been wonky:

I tried to look at those pics but they didn't come out. Do you have another link by any chance?

kate is a cocky bitch said...

Of course I didn't watch this garbage, but I bet 1 question Morales didn't ask the lazy, lying, heartless, greedy bitch is:
just because you had more children than you can afford to take care of, what gives you this overpowering sense of entitlement?

WillowMc said...

What a great re-cap! You did a wonderful job of recounting an entire hour of chit-chat--which I think would be difficult. And then you made it all easier reading by including so much good of humor. Great job!

ManicNarcissism said...

For the Moment,

Link worked for me but found another to the same thing:

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/7313/2009/06/kate-gosselin-growing

fidosmommy said...

Janine said...
Hi Kimberly... I am sure K8 has a sense of what is being said, whether she reads or not, whether it's this forum, or not. The fact is, the comments are directly related to her actions


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If I may add to Janine's great post, I might point out that sometimes what gets said on GWoP
is seen in Kate-life later.. For example, we were complaining bitterly how she was holding her children's arms up so high and so tightly as to practically pull their shoulders out of socket when they were on their way to a studio in NYC. Next time we see Kate with her kids, she is holding her arms down, giving their little shoulders a rest. She hasn't been doing the arm overhead yank thing since, to my knowledge.

Lots of good things come from GWoP

Kat said...

"Could've, should've, would've" was actually a line made famous by Jim Mora when he was the coach of the New Orleans Saints. After a bad loss, a reporter started a question about "If the team could have..." and Mora responded "Shoulda, woulda, coulda don't mean sh*t."

For the Moment? said...

ManicNarcissism said...
For the Moment,

Link worked for me but found another to the same thing:


Thanks! She was actually very attractive in her senior pic and the hair do becomes her more.

shawna said...

Love, love, love the recap! I have followed and loved this blog for over a year, but feel the need to address something. I have let it slide for a long time!

I do have to say something about Kate's "wonky" eye.

She has a "lazy eye" and there are many out there that have one. I have a lazy eye (right eye and born with it) and would hope people would be kind enough to not refer to my "lazy eye" as being "wonky." My muscles are not as strong in my right eye as they are in my left eye. I was born with it and have had to deal with it for 41 years. I have to turn a certain way for family photos! It isn't fun.

Would my family say "hey mom look at your wonky eye?" I doubt it.

There are many things that I don't like about Kate .... treatment of her kids, husband, friends and family. She is a money grubbing *&^^%! Please just lay off the "wonky eye."

Much Love!

cottoneyed kate said...

GoPoshGo: I didn't watch 'Khate's Story' (god, just writing that made me nauseous...) I only caught some scenes online. Your recap is HILARIOUS and you should seriously consider a writing profession.

Lucy said...

Well done Posh! Sorry you had to sit through her b.s. As I've said before I'd PAY to see Nancy Grace interview Khate. Heck I'd PAY to see you interview her Posh! You touched on all the times Khate lies, has lied and will, no doubt, continue to lie. Khate doesn't realize that truth rides a faster horse, it always catches up.

Canadian Mom said...

Wow! You GWoP'ers have EXCELLENT insights....

The poker analogy was GREAT!

As was the tarot card analogy, the lottery balls, and the baseball cards!

(I used special Rid-Yourself-Of-Kate-Only Bleach when pouring it into my eyes...)

Pa Mom Knows said...

"I do have to say something about Kate's "wonky" eye.

She has a "lazy eye" and there are many out there that have one. I have a lazy eye (right eye and born with it) and would hope people would be kind enough to not refer to my "lazy eye" as being "wonky."
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Amen. I was just about to post the same thing. I don't have a wonky eye. I don't have a lazy eye. I just remember a story my mom told me. My grandmother had a friend who would visit her, they'd sit on the porch and watch the world go by. One old woman would walk past their house every day, and she had a limp because of a hip deformity. The person sitting on my porch would get up when the woman walked by, and imitated her limp, making fun of her. When my grandmother's "friend" gave birth to her first child, the baby was born with a hip deformity, and for the rest of her life walked the same way as the person her mother had made fun of.

I'll never forget that story. You just don't call attention to a physical problem -- even if it's all in fun and nothing is meant by it. Just my two cents...

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Money can be used for College at most private and public institutions in the United States."

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I remember when this fund was set up. At the time, it was reported that the stipulation was that the children must attend college in Pennsylvania.
I'm not sure if this is still true, but I could find out if I make some phone calls.

goawayJandK said...

You just don't call attention to a physical problem -- even if it's all in fun and nothing is meant by it. Just my two cents...


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Absolutely agreed for everyone BUT K8. I would NEVER make a comment or make fun of someone for a physical ailment or any other reason to be honest.I think K8 is such a vile person, however, that she has made herself an open target for such ridicule, and deservedly so.

I don't really comment on K8's looks but do enjoy others' comments. That said, as much as I loathe K8, I wouldn't ever say anything about her looks (her behavior is another story ) in front of my kids because I don't want to set a bad example. They do hear me calling her the "mean mommy" whenever we see her in the tabloids or on tv, you know, keeping things private and all.

Dilley Dollars said...

Not A Fan of Either said, "I wonder if Kate would understand when I say, and I truly mean this, that I think Becky Dilley is a beautiful woman.
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I doubt that Kate would understand - Kate seems emotionally obtuse and shallow. But I agree with you about Mrs. Dilley.

Becky Dilley seems smart, down to earth, intimately involved with each of her kids individually. It's obvious she actually enjoys her kids and parenting. She seems loving and supportive to her husband. She comes across as genuine and sincere.

She has a beautiful smile and a contagious laugh. Both play gracefully across her face easily and often.

She seems well balanced emotionally and does not seem to need undue attention focused on her.

She does not tear down others to make herself feel superior. She lovingly leads by example vs. CONTROLS with a proverbial iron fist.

In short, Becky Dilley is the antithesis of Kate Gosselin.

Kate was a naturally pretty woman at least facially. Her store bought improvements to her teeth, boobs, face, and attire have served only to cheapen her appearance and aura.

Kate is all about the superficial. The materialistic. The ego.

Kate is so hopelessly about Kate that she'll never achieve the respect Becky Dilley has earned.

I'm guessing the Dilley kids would agree with this assessment.

Sadly, I'll bet the Gosselin kids will one day also be old enough to understand and agree with this comparison.

GoPoshGo said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"I do have to say something about Kate's "wonky" eye.
She has a "lazy eye" and there are many out there that have one. I have a lazy eye (right eye and born with it) and would hope people would be kind enough to not refer to my "lazy eye" as being "wonky."
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Amen. I was just about to post the same thing.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you guys. First of all, I don't think Kate has a "lazy eye." I'm not a physician, but I'm pretty sure a "lazy eye" is an issue with the actual eyeBALL -- one that turns out or in -- it doesn't "do" what the other eyeball does. Kate seems to have an eyeLID issue -- her eyes are not the same shape, as one eyelid seems to droop. Her actual eyeballs seem to work in perfect unison. Her eye is wonky, but not lazy.

That said, I'm sure there are posters out there among us who have cankles, piano legs, extra large [fake] boobs, bleached teeth, line-backer shoulders, and/or ugly toes. I'll bet money that some of us wear too much make-up, have bad hair styles, and aren't fashion savvy enough to know when a skirt is too short or a blouse too low-cut. Should we stop posting about Kate on these issues as well, so as not to offend a blogger in a too-short denim skirt?

My point is, we're not mocking the collective group of people who might share a characteristic with Kate. We're mocking Kate. Period. Is it catty? Yes. But I think we're all past the point of worrying about the ethical ramifications of making fun of Kate Gosselin.

Posts are about the Gosselins. Let's not personalize it, folks.

The Person We Love (to Hate) said...

Go Away J&K: Same here. I'm not one to care about or criticize the appearance of others.

But Kate Gosselin brings out the worst in me, and a couple times, I have found myself laughing and even agreeing with comments here that poke fun at the many levels of Kate's unattractive appearance since she decided she has made it to The Big Time.

I think at least part of what's at play here is that Kate is one of those people who needs to put everyone else down so she can feel better about herself.

After awhile I feel myself wanting to express that I refuse to take such a meanspirited, arrogant, self absorbed creature as Kate Gosselin seriously. I can take only so much of her as she fights to stay in the spotlight, struts around in bikinis and hooker clothes and stilettos, never happy, never owning her own shortcomings. And one way to express these feelings is to make it clear at least on GWoP that, IMO, Kate Gosselin is a JOKE.

Anonymous said...

Go Posh is right: Kate's eye = ptosis - a sagging eyelid, unrelated to an eyeball weakness.

cottagequeso gal said...

If anyone of us were to take Khate Gosselin SERIOUSLY, we wouldn't make fun of her. But it's true, she's nothing but a joke.
So I hope those of us with: boob jobs, cankles, thunder thighs, bleached hair, bleached teeth, saggy butts, double-chins, poor posture, big toes, and yes, ummm, 'wonky eyes', surely won't take offense...

MickeyMcKean said...

GoPoshGo, you really did a great job in the recap. It was definitely entertaining.

I was not going to watch BUT I was watching LPBW, left the room and when I got back Kate was on. Since I was already counted as a viewer I recorded it and after reading the comments and recap I would decide whether or not to watch it.

My boyfiend and I have seen it - we both were talking to Kate but his language was a tad more colorful than mine :)

It crossed my mind that there are people who will not see that she is lying and using all her usual lines, and that they will be buying the whole pity party, hook, line, and sinker. They also will not realize that Natalie Morales dropped the ball throughout the interview, in their minds they feel that Kate answered all the questions to their satisfaction.

It even occurred to me that Kate was perhaps opening up a door for her and Jon to reconcile *because* it may be the only way she can get what she wants: the kids back on the air so the trips, perks, and paychecks start up again.

KATE: As a mother you must be protective of your kids - before and after - they hit the ground. Your desire to continue to exploit them even tho they are showing signs of stress by acting out, covering their faces to the cameras, etc., is in fact proof positive that you are HARMING your children. They know something is not right but they are too young to realize what is wrong. YOU should also be pulling the plug with Jon but you are too selfish to do so.

Do you have any idea how easy it would be for a pedophile with a camera to get near your kids?

More to the point, you want to continue to expose them to all the crazies in this world, the same crazies that you feel the need of having a bodyguard in your life. But what about the safety of the kids?

JON: Stay strong. Keep your kids off the air. Give them a chance of a normal life without everyone watching their every move. It is sick that getting on and off a school bus when you are in kindergarten is covered by the media on a daily basis. Again stay strong, stand up to TLC and/or Kate - don't let them bully you into putting the kids back on the air. Continue to end the nightmare - Save the 8!

hooray dils said...

Dilley Dollars said...
Not A Fan of Either said, "I wonder if Kate would understand when I say, and I truly mean this, that I think Becky Dilley is a beautiful woman.
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I read their book yrs ago and just the fact she went back to work when the kids were BABIES (learning to stand etc) said a lot.

The dilley 6 appeared on Food Network Cake challenge. We got to see the kids ONLY. No Mommy carrying on about her bed rest or how old they were. Just some poised and polite kids.

Kate is not a mom first,she is seeking out a career.

GoPoshGo said...

Corrin said...
Here is what I think is the main thing that bugs me about her whole reason for not going church. Things happen everyday to people whether it be divorce or the death of a spouse that make life physichally and emotionally harder but I very rarely see people stop doing normal everyday things because of it... as an army wife if we gave up on all our family events everytime our husbands deployed our kids would have no sense of routine or normalcy.

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I agree 100% with you, Corrin. As a Navy wife, your post hit home with me on a personal level. My husband was deployed to Iraq when our daughter was 11 months old. As difficult as it was to do it alone, I made sure to have a big celebration for her first birthday, first Christmas, first word, and first step -- even though her daddy missed all of those milestones. We were stationed in Italy at the time, so family was not nearby for support.

It's no wonder we have no patience for Kate's excuses and lies. She could care less about her kids' sense of "normalcy" or consistency. It has always been, and will always be, ALL about Kate.

Pa Mom Knows said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"I do have to say something about Kate's "wonky" eye.
She has a "lazy eye" and there are many out there that have one. I have a lazy eye (right eye and born with it) and would hope people would be kind enough to not refer to my "lazy eye" as being "wonky."
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I never said that!

However...regardless of whether it's a lazy eye, a wonky eye, a drooping eyelid, chronic dry eye, granulated eyelid, etc. etc., I was raised that one never calls attention to another one's physical infirmity. It's rude, and it's hurtful. Kate may be many things, but to write or speak about her "wonky eye" really is uncalled for.

Perhaps there are many who were brought up thinking that commenting on a physical weakness is quite okay and that making a joke about it is humorous. We're not talking about bleached teeth, a seagull haircut or mammoth mammary replacements! We're talking about something for which someone has no control over. Once would be enough -- but this has been over and over and over again on many posts here. It's not funny and it wears thin after awhile.

I would certainly hope that I am not alone in this opinion and some on here would agree.

Momof2inMD said...

OMGawd... my kudos to GoPoshGo for getting through this interview without passing out. Seriously... I only read part of the whole thing. It was written very well, otherwise I would have quit already after the first paragraph.
One bummboring interview!!!! I am glad I have given up a long time ago watching this mess of a show.

too late said...

Do you have any idea how easy it would be for a pedophile with a camera to get near your kids?
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Good point but such people need only purchase the dvds...

im sure we all agree there are several clips that should not have been filmed, far less braodcast.

GoPoshGo said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
However...regardless of whether it's a lazy eye, a wonky eye, a drooping eyelid, chronic dry eye, granulated eyelid, etc. etc., I was raised that one never calls attention to another one's physical infirmity. It's rude, and it's hurtful. Kate may be many things, but to write or speak about her "wonky eye" really is uncalled for.
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I'm sorry, but I'm just not getting your point. So it's okay to mock someone for physical characteristics they bring on themselves: bleached teeth; bad haircuts, big boobs. But it's not okay to joke about attributes they were born with? If so, then why are you not protesting the comments on cankles, line-backer shoulders, piano legs, etc.? Further, if you're really up in arms about not criticizing people for traits they're born with, then you'd also be admonishing us for commenting on Kate's bad parenting, and stupid comments/bad grammar. Because clearly she's not the brightest bulb on the tree.

Moreover, Kate's droopy eyelid hardly qualifies as a "physical infirmity." Quite a dramatic label, in my humble opinion.

I think this topic has been blown way out of proportion.

bucky's owner said...

Stress is not an excuse for abuse. There is no excuse. Even for Queen Katie Irene.
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Especially when you have a body guard, nanny, baby sitter, lawn person, laundry person, house keeper, a few millions banked, good health, etc

Rose said...

Mickey McKean said...

"KATE: As a mother you must be protective of your kids - before and after - they hit the ground. Your desire to continue to exploit them even tho they are showing signs of stress by acting out, covering their faces to the cameras, etc., is in fact proof positive that you are HARMING your children. They know something is not right but they are too young to realize what is wrong. YOU should also be pulling the plug with Jon but you are too selfish to do so.

Do you have any idea how easy it would be for a pedophile with a camera to get near your kids?"



And that, right there, in plain black and white, is the true tragedy. We don't live in an era or a society where the personal space/privacy/dignity of people in the limelight is respected. There are big-name stars who spend their entire careers working on dealing with the press, and mind you, many of them didn't even become famous until adulthood. Translation: they have the impacts of a relatively normal, happy childhood to fall back upon and use to make them stronger.

When, may I ask, were the Gosselin children ever given the choice to have that normal childhood? More importantly, how will the fact that they never had it harm them when they are teenagers, college students, or young adults attempting to walk down a street without some sicko shoving a pen and paper in their faces, demanding their autograph, and wanting to know what their mom and dad were REALLY like behind all those cameras?

Will those kids really be equipped to handle the strain of the future when nobody bothered to teach them about boundaries? How will they ever know the difference between what should be private and what the media can snatch away without a moment's notice?

Jon and Kate at least had a chance to be normal for the first twenty-some years of their life, but now, thanks to them, their kids will never, ever, EVER know what it's like for the world not to know exactly who they are and how their dirtiest laundry looks. Just stop for a minute and consider what that can do to a child. What do you think it would have done to you if you were in the same position?

Kate and her charade continue to operate because the kids are still so little and accepting of anything and everything. They're 5 and 9. They have no lives outside of Mommy and Daddy. Where else are they going to go? They don't even know that there's someone else to go. Someday they will, though, and I hope Kate realizes how soon it really will come. The problem is, she won't pay attention to any of the harm she's done to her children until they hit the bottom, and unfortunately, by then, it will be much too late for her to start being a mother. Of course, knowing her, even then, she won't take responsibility. "Everyone is responsible for their own actions," she'll say, "and my kids have the choice to be happy." Yeah, because they learned so well from you, right?

Nancy S said...

Pa Mom Knows said...
"I do have to say something about Kate's "wonky" eye.
She has a "lazy eye" and there are many out there that have one. I have a lazy eye (right eye and born with it) and would hope people would be kind enough to not refer to my "lazy eye" as being "wonky."
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I too have a lazy eye. Doesn't bother me a bit to read remarks concerning Kate's lazy eye.

It is open season on Kate.

fidosmommy said...

Still don't know what happened with Jamie. Anybody know?

But does this mean she won't be staying with the kids this summer now? I thought that was the plan.

1momski said...

I believe that the comments about Kate's appearance are born from her being so vain and superficial. Her appearance is obviously a priority of hers or she wouldn't spend so much time and effort on her outward look. It is galling to think of how the children are given so little thought by their self-absorbed mother. This is what I hear most people on this post find objectionable about Kate.

Im_in_PR said...

im sure we all agree there are several clips that should not have been filmed, far less broadcast.

The three boys on the potty outside in the driveway. That was straight up child abuse right there. TLC should be charged for broadcasting that.

Thanks, GWoP for Lessons Learned said...

Bucky's Owner said, "Stress is not an excuse for abuse. There is no excuse. Even for Queen Katie Irene."
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AMEN, Bucky's Owner. It's impossible to overstate this fact.

An earlier poster commented that some good things have come from GWoP.


I hope one of those good things is an increased awareness of verbal and emotional abuse - how it works, how it looks, how it feels, its negative effect on others, and that neither gender has the corner on this particular market, unfortunately. Abuse is NEVER ok.

Just wondering said...

A broader question related to criticizing something like a "Wonky Eye":

Does having a physical imperfection give a person license to behave badly and treat others poorly?

Should a physical imperfection give immunity from any and all criticism?

Curious as to what all of you think about this.....

Kate's Baked said...

Re: Kate's Vow Renewal statement, "We'll always be together" followed by Ms. Morales' statement, "Always didn't last forever..."

1)Vow renewal in August.
2)Joint Mansion purchase (just happens to have a handy spousal apt above the garage) in Sept/Oct.
3)Marriage Dead On Arrival in November

Wow, that's one weird time warp going on in Kate World. Come visit Gosselin Land, where Forever=3Months.

Mikemom said...

Kate should remember that her little ones are learning all about life from her. The boys will grow up to be abused by their spouses, the girls will grow up to boss every male around they encounter and last but not least ALL of them will treat Kate as she as treated her parents.

Amy said...

Im_in_PR said...
im sure we all agree there are several clips that should not have been filmed, far less broadcast.

The three boys on the potty outside in the driveway. That was straight up child abuse right there. TLC should be charged for broadcasting that.

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Wasn't it winter or at the very least cold/crappy whether when that one was filmed? ITA that was child abuse.

goawayJandK said...

Wasn't it winter or at the very least cold/crappy whether when that one was filmed? ITA that was child abuse

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Yes, it was a cold winter day. I totally forgot about that scene. There have been many comments on what turned people off to this show and KON. That scene was definitely a WTH? moment.

Hope This Gets Posted said...

GoPoshGo - first let me say thank you for the recap. It was very well written, funny, and best of all it gave me all I wanted to know about the interview without having to actually watch the whole thing myself. I watched a bit of it on You Tube and I also thought that Kate looked pretty bad...poor choice of dress, shoes, jewlery, hairstyle and make-up. Not at all flattering. No matter how much she tries she just doesn't seem to get it right...she's always a *little* bit off. The thing is that she would look quite nice if she'd just take it down about 3 or 4 notches. She reminds me of my 3 year old who wants to wear every bit of her "dress up" clothes all at once, complete with a ton of cheap bracelets, necklaces, and her "cloppy" shoes. :) With that being said I agree 100% with the posters who've said that they bristle at the constant "wonky eye" references. It's not necessary. It detracts from the real purpose of this site in my opinion. I've always believed that was to call both Kate and Jon out on their constant lies, manipulations and exploitation of their children. If she looks ridiculous with her fake tan and ill fitting clothing then I see nothing wrong with mentioning it, but it's just so MEAN to make fun of her natural physical imperfections. I know, I know...SHE'S the mean one...SHE deserves it...SHE brings it on herself. All of those things are so very true, but that doesn't mean we should go for the jugular about things that DO NOT MATTER. Those kids matter. Their mental health matters. I know she pisses you off and that you can't stand the sight of her. Believe me, I'm right there with you. I read this blog because I care about those things - the lies, the exploitation, the things that MATTER...not to pick on Kate for having a "wonky eye".
Just my opinion. I'll keep reading. I really do think that this blog has made a difference.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

To add to the discussion about comments on Kate's appearance, etc., I too have no problem with it even though I am one who normally deplores ridiculing others' faults, physical or mental limitations and so on. That being said, Kate herself does not hesitate to call out others: Jon, according to her is overweight, balding, lazy, unhelpful and inarticulate. Joel, according to her is "sneaky" and clueless. Nana Janet was too big to ride a pony. So turnabout is fair play. IMHO

readerlady said...

Oh my. I'd forgotten about that boys on the pottychairs in the driveway bit. What kind of a mother puts her kids on the potty in full view of the neighborhood, let alone allows it to be filmed and then broadcast on national television? I can understand wanting to have the potties quickly available for the kids when they are outside playing. Little kids don't have much control and when they need to "go" they need to "go" right now. but she could have easily set them up in the garage with a screen or something so that they weren't in full view of God and everybody.

I need to weigh in on Kate and her lazy eye, too. I have a lazy eye. I wore an eyepatch for a year when I was 6, but I still don't have much vision in it. It looks perfectly normal, though. I don't know what is wrong with Kate's eye, but I agree that it is rude, mean and uncalled for to continue to harp on it. Terrible haircut, bad boob job, etc. are all fair game, because she either did those to herself or can remedy them. The eye isn't something she can do anything about. Her bad grammar, ignorance, etc. - also fair game, because she could, if she wanted to, do something about those also. She isn't stupid. Regardless of what some think about her nurses' training, it takes a lot of work and a certain amount of intelligence to get through a diploma school of nursing. Just because she doesn't have a BSN or ASN doesn't mean she didn't have to hit the books, and hit them hard. When someone chooses to make a spectacle of themselves, then it's perfectly acceptable to criticize and ridicule (within limits).

Maude said...

bucky's owner said:
Maude said:
Stress is not an excuse for abuse. There is no excuse.

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Especially when you have a body guard, nanny, baby sitter, lawn person, laundry person, house keeper, a few millions banked, good health, etc.

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Thank you bucky's owner, you illustrated my original post beautifully.

ABadViewofKate said...

The wonky eye discussion is cracking me up. Not to be insensitive about it because I was born with the same thing - in fact I inherited from my Dad as he had one too. It is really noticeable when we are tired, sick or stressed.

I like the term personally and use it now. Doesn't hurt my feelings in the least. I have dealt with it my whole life and I guess it doesn't bother me anymore.

And honestly, since I don't watch the show, I never noticed it in the print pics of Kate on the mags. [Maybe they are shooting from her good side? I don't know]

With all that said - I don't think it is wrong to refer to Kate's eye as wonky - IMO it would be cruel to make fun of her [for her appearance and not just the eye] back when this whole thing started and I did watch. Remember her in sweatpants, no tummy tuck or tan or $300 flock of seagulls haircut? That would be mean because that was a young family, with eight kids living on one income and it wouldn't be her fault to not look as great [as she think she does] as she now because she was taking care of her family and they come first and the money just wasn't there. Right?

So along comes the freebies and the TLC money train and she has morphed herself into what she has always wanted to look like at the EXPENSE of her children.

IMO that gives the public, that she forces herself on, free reign to make fun of whatever they like.

On another point, don't any of you think that if she was actually an honest, true person with some empathy for anything we wouldn't notice her "wonky" eye? We would be saying what a lovely woman she is akin to Mrs. Dilley who IS a beautiful woman, inside and out.

That is Kate's problem. There is no beauty anywhere in her context.

[I hope that made sense!]

Midnight Serenade said...

Hope said:

If she looks ridiculous with her fake tan and ill fitting clothing then I see nothing wrong with mentioning it, but it's just so MEAN to make fun of her natural physical imperfections. I know, I know...SHE'S the mean one...SHE deserves it...SHE brings it on herself. All of those things are so very true, but that doesn't mean we should go for the jugular about things that DO NOT MATTER.
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For those who think it's perfectly okay and she's fair game to go for the jugular by giving jabs at the wonky eye, I hope that none ever has a child who comes home from school in tears because some nasty bully on the playground made fun of him by calling him "Dumbo Ears," "One Eyed Willy" or "Shnoz Snout!"
For many, calling attention to physical deformities hurts regardless of whether one is a child or an adult. I seem to remember several mentions of one of the tups having the same wonky eye as his mother. This is just plain cruel.

Midnight Serenade said...

You know, as parents we teach our children not to make fun of other kids because they "look" different from us, and yet as adults, we turn around and do the very thing that we hope our children won't do. Sharon Osborne recently threw a nasty zinger at Susan Boyle by saying that God hit her with a f'ing ugly stick. Is this okay? Is this what we, as a society, have become? That we sink so low that when we run out of things to attack, we go for the physical imperfections?

Hope's right. In the end, it's the children who matter -- not the piano legs or the hooker heels. It's the kids, and hopefully this blog has succeeded in some small way in calling attention to the many atrocities perpetrated on these children by the greed of the parents, and they will finally be able to live the childhood that they so desperately need. I'd say "resume" their childhood, but I'm not sure that they ever really had one in the first place.

Pamela Jaye said...

my best friend, who only knows of Jon and Kate because of me (and because she occasionally buys groceries) thought your recap was very funny. as did I.
Thanks so much for taking one for the team.
(blogger 404'ed me when I hit "post" so ignore any duplicates)

MickeyMcKean said...

Mickey McKean said...

"KATE: As a mother you must be protective of your kids - before and after - they hit the ground. Your desire to continue to exploit them even tho they are showing signs of stress by acting out, covering their faces to the cameras, etc., is in fact proof positive that you are HARMING your children. They know something is not right but they are too young to realize what is wrong. YOU should also be pulling the plug with Jon but you are too selfish to do so.

Do you have any idea how easy it would be for a pedophile with a camera to get near your kids?"

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Rose said...

And that, right there, in plain black and white, is the true tragedy. We don't live in an era or a society where the personal space/privacy/dignity of people in the limelight is respected. There are big-name stars who spend their entire careers working on dealing with the press, and mind you, many of them didn't even become famous until adulthood. Translation: they have the impacts of a relatively normal, happy childhood to fall back upon and use to make them stronger.

SNIPPED FOR SPACE

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Rose,

You certainly made a fantastic point in your full post.

But for clarification purposes, my "Do you have any idea how easy it would be for a pedophile with a camera to get near your kids?" was to point out that one or more of these kids could be kidnapped by someone that they think is OK simply because they have been raised to believe that people with cameras are "normal" and wish them no harm other than to take their photo.

Kate has a bodyguard so she gets home safe to her kids, but I don't see a bodyguard getting on the bus with the kids. Yet these cute kids have been exposed to people who would have "other" ideas about how to "play" with them.

We all know the news is loaded with stories of kids that are missing and here we have 8 kids that have literally been exposed to everyone, crazy people included. It just takes one pediphile to have a fixation on a child and then go after said child. In just a few seconds, the Gosselin world could change forever.

Bottom line: Kids in reality TV shows are exposed as bait to the people in our society that want to harm or do unnatural things to children. We all know we live in a sick world, but to ignore it and exploit your children for fame and fortune ... seriously, is the child's health, safety, welfare and life really worth it?

fidosmommy said...

Amy said...
Im_in_PR said...
im sure we all agree there are several clips that should not have been filmed, far less broadcast.

The three boys on the potty outside in the driveway. That was straight up child abuse right there. TLC should be charged for broadcasting that.

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Wasn't it winter or at the very least cold/crappy whether when that one was filmed? ITA that was child abuse.

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Kate wasn't there that day. It was Jon and Kevin who did the boys outside on potties, for their own convenience.

And as I recall, Jon later made fun of one of the boys because he
was shy about it. Does anyone else remember it that way? Jon said one of the boys just considered it a bodily function, did it, and went on his way, but his brother didn't think it was all that great a deal that day.

Sharla said...

I don't want to close the recap thread so please keep the discussion on the episode and not personal experiences, personal attakcs, or taking the discussion personally. Please understand if your comment is rejected or removed for continuing the arguments.

marie said...

Kate wasn't there that day. It was Jon and Kevin who did the boys outside on potties, for their own convenience.
And as I recall, Jon later made fun of one of the boys because he
was shy about it. Does anyone else remember it that way? Jon said one of the boys just considered it a bodily function, did it, and went on his way, but his brother didn't think it was all that great a deal that day.
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Wasn.t it Jon and Bob.

I think they were at Beth and Bobs estate, so maybe no neighbours- just the camera man, production guy, boom guy etc, a camera...

Humiliating a little kid is really funny and makes great tv/

marie said...

im sure we all agree there are several clips that should not have been filmed, far less broadcast.
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I was thinking Hannh pooped in hannah's unerware clip.

That shoud never have happened.

Sheesh Im surprised the camera guy didt say anything..... but i guess he has a job to do.

Fed Up said...

It was Jon & Beth's husband Bob who put the boys outside on the potties in the cold. They were at Beth's house. I don't think Bob liked the idea at all. Jon did make fun of one boy not being able to go.

The Big Wooden Spoon said...

Midnight Serenade said...
*snipped*
Hope's right. In the end, it's the children who matter -- not the piano legs or the hooker heels.
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IMO, everyone is fixated on Kate's "glamour" (or lack thereof) because it clearly shows how empty she is inside.
Ask youself -- how many HOURS per day does that woman spend on wardrobe changes/makeup/hair/spa/shopping? I think that's all she has, and that really is a matter of concern where the kids are concerned.

I agree that we've all said enough about how she looks. I'm just thinking about why.

ABadViewofKate said...

Midnight Serenade said:

"For those who think it's perfectly okay and she's fair game to go for the jugular by giving jabs at the wonky eye, I hope that none ever has a child who comes home from school in tears because some nasty bully on the playground made fun of him by calling him "Dumbo Ears," "One Eyed Willy" or "Shnoz Snout!"
For many, calling attention to physical deformities hurts regardless of whether one is a child or an adult. I seem to remember several mentions of one of the tups having the same wonky eye as his mother. This is just plain cruel."
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Yeah and Kate is a freaking humanitartian in her treatement of her husband, her family and the filming of her children [pick any of the "Gates" gumgate, etc.]

I don't like my kids made fun of anymore than the next Mom but she has done nothing but set her EIGHT offspring up for years of abuse at the hands of schoolmates for what she has allowed to be shown on public television.

Pointing out she has a "wonky" eye PALES in comparison to what she has done to her children. It is all about perspective.

Sorry if someone had the temerity to point out one of the tups has a wonky eye too, but as I said before I inherited mine from my Dad. No big deal to me, but remember my Mom and Dad didn't choose to plaster me across the airwaves.

She did this to herself. If she didn't want the attention she shouldn't be whoring herself out.Everywhere.At EVERY chance.I am sick of her face when I turn on my computer, go grocery shopping and watch my NEWS [not ET, etc, actually NEWS]. She is a joke.

No sympathy. And her EYE IS WONKY.

There I said it.

ShockerConJandK said...

Good recap.

goawayfools said...

Yep. Kate dressing cheaply and inappropriately with her boobs hanging out, in hooker heels, gobs of makeup, new aerobicized body and ridiculous hair is screaming "Look at ME!!!" She is spending hours, with an s, dolling her average self up every day so she can be photographed pretending to hate the attention. People wouldn't care so much if she put equal effort into her kids or if she didn't run around professing how she does it all for them. She is presenting nothing to the public beyond her physical transformation and bitchiness. We don't see her working or spending quality time with her kids, so what else are we supposed to judge her on? She wants the attention? Well get used to being made fun of, Kate, because you are an unfeminine, fake, laughable bitch. Do something worthwhile and we may not pay attention to your physical shortcomings.

fidosmommy said...

goawayfools said...
Yep. Kate dressing cheaply and inappropriately with her boobs hanging out, in hooker heels, gobs of makeup, new aerobicized body and ridiculous hair is screaming "Look at ME!!!" She is spending hours, with an s, dolling her average self up every day so she can be photographed pretending to hate the attention. People wouldn't care so much if she put equal effort into her kids or if she didn't run around professing how she does it all for them.

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It's telling that Kate is all coiffed when they all go out, and the girls' hair is either hanging uncombed or quickly caught up in a ponytail. Unless the Nanny is there, then there is time spent braiding and adorning their hair.

Mady and Cara are old enough to take care of their own hair, but the little girls are not. They need Mommy to take 5 minutes each - 15 minutes - to do something more than get the tangles out. Really, how long does it take to braid hair or put it up so it's out of their faces, Kate? Or does that take time away from your clothing selection and cell phone usage?

Midnight Serenade said...

Marie said:


Sheesh Im surprised the camera guy didt say anything..... but i guess he has a job to do.

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How do we know that the camera guy, through TLC, didn't actually encourage this kind of filming to gain viewers, and Kate, who is not the sharpest tool in the shed, actually went along with it because she thought it was perfectly okay to film these moments because production either ordered it, or sanctioned it? Both she and Jon should have known better.

Pa Mom Knows said...

"Kate has a bodyguard so she gets home safe to her kids, but I don't see a bodyguard getting on the bus with the kids. Yet these cute kids have been exposed to people who would have "other" ideas about how to "play" with them."

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If they were my kids, I would never let them get on a bus without some kind of security present. I would personally deliver them to school, walk them into their classrooms, and do the same thing when I picked them up. But, that's just me...

Nana Sew Dear said...

Whaaaa!!! I have cankles... don't make fun of me... WHAAAA!!!. Just kidding, about the hurt feelings, not the cankles.

What disturbs me is that with all of the money they have made it doesn't appear that they've ever had Hannah's lazy eye dealt with. I know there are eye exercizes and some folks wear a patch.

Kimberly: I don't think I'd punish ANYONE, even K8, by suggesting they read a "book" by "Dr." Laura. Some punishments just go too far!

It would be nice to think that The Loser Channel will really give up Jon and Kate but in the world of giant corperations it's all about the money and to Hell with who you might damage.

Vanessa said...

Well I guess Khate hearing comments about her lazy eye would hurt her feelings? How about Mady seeing the clip
where both her and Jon make fun of her teeth? Remember the sound effects she made accompanied by her fluttering hands? How about Jon's chainsaw impersonation? Hanny had a great laugh with that one, didn't she?
How about calling your boys "filthy, just filthy" and looking like your ready to upchuck?
How about all the gay innuendos directed at Joel? How about Collin's big head? Yes, they BOTH can dish it, but really, you KNOW they can't take it.

toosad4words said...

Absolutely offended by her comment that "her kids deserve life served to them on a golden platter". Why? Why are they so much more deserving than mine or anyone elses?

Ravello said...

Terrific and detailed recap, thank you so much. I did not see the show but feel like I was right there next to Kate. I love the descriptions of Kate's body habitus, I saw photos of her on the couch and she needs a tummy tuck redo. And that hair is just awful. Kate is a classic narcissist, everything is about her. The crocodile tears had to have been rehearsed, practiced. She is great cranking out those fake tears.

groovymom00 said...

I'm new here, so I don't know if this has been brought up already, but I find it very interesting that whenever someone asks Kate about her affair with the fake bodyguard, she NEVER answers the question. She only ever spouts off about how "disgusting" and "awful" it is that people are thinking such a thing. To me that's very, very telling that she has never to my knowledge flat out said "no" to the affair.