Recap: Prep for Hawaii

Submitted by Dew


On this episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8! Shockingly, they're going on another free trip to Hawaii. Hawaii?! Dang! Looks like some major damage control between Kate and Joel, and Kate gets a free drop-dead gorgeous wedding dress.


While I'm watching the credits, how is everyone's 401(k)'s doing? Because mine- not so hot. But Suzy Orman insists I should stay the course… I'm trying, Suzy, but it's hard. Now is certainly not the time for most of us to be making any major purchases I would think, especially not our dream houses.

Despite quite obviously having a personal stylist now, Kate's hair is truly horrendous. Oh, it's gone way past reverse mullet or a hyena's butt, as others have described it so well. It's reverse mullet, hyena's butt, and Venus fly trap meet my puppy's dog bed when I haven't washed it in three weeks. It's really embarrassing to look at, but that's okay because I don't enjoy looking at this woman anyway.

It's one week before their big trip to Hawaii, and Kate and Jon gather the kids together to watch home movies of their wedding.Kate says they wanted to go to Hawaii for their first wedding (with what money?), but then she blames her family members for not wanting to fork over the dough to actually fly out there for it. Wow, that is really God awful of those people, not wanting to spend three or four or five grand to haul their Pennsylvanian butts to Hawaii for Jon and his special new wife Kate. Don't they like warm weather? I would estrange them too. So because nobody could, or maybe didn't want to, go all the way out to Hawaii, they settled for having an absolutely gorgeous positively romantic storybook wedding at some castle/mansion looking place. Poor them.

Personally, I hope I would be a little embarrassed to even ask my family to make a sacrifice like that for my wedding. Weddings already put such a financial burden on your family in the first place, between the gifts and buying a new dress/suit for it and possibly even helping to pay for it as Jon's family verifiably did, I hope I would hold my tongue and not ask for something that outrageous. Also my boyfriend mentioned cost of chipping in for a stripper, too, plus tip. Not that he would EVER have that at his bachelor party, baby. So yeah, weddings are expensive for your family even on a small scale.

The wedding video shows a picture of Jon when he was maybe about eight. Aww, he's adorable! He looks just like Mady, only with a Moe Howard bowl cut. I would really love to see Moe poke Kate in the eyes--boing! I digress....The expression on eight-year-old Jon's face is so innocent. Little boy has no idea what he is destined for, castration by shrew. Kate says they were "thinking" and "dreaming" of going to Hawaii for a long time. They most likely also did a lot of massive hinting, to anyone and everyone who remotely had any connections to Hawaii, and finally some unsuspecting hotel caught on and offered them a free getaway. Kate says the trip just "appeared." Well, give me a magic wand and call me a fairy. What a stupid thing to say, a thousand-dollar free trip just appeared, and way to discount how hard everyone worked to put it together for all of them. It appeared, or was pieced together meticulously and given to them, handed to them on a silver platter, because she has splashed her eight wonderful children who deserve better than this all over our television sets for going on four years now and pretty much most likely set them up for a lifetime of issues. So yes in that sense, the trip did appear. But hey, at least they're getting to go to Hawaii!

Two minutes in and I'm already super annoyed.

Like cherry on a sundae of poo, Kate also says, "You don't have to ask us twice!" Why do I feel like she's saying that with the intent to annoy people who can't stand her? I have to admit it's working. I could write a dissertation on why she needs to say no to most of this stuff, but everyone else has already covered it so extensively on this blog and I couldn't add much more to it, so I won't bore you.Anyway, at least Hawaii should be mildly interesting. I don't really know much about that state. Most of what I know is from watching Dog the Bounty Hunter. He has cute little kids too, but we rarely if ever see them on camera. Dog makes Hawaii kind of seem like all it is a bunch of Samoan meth heads and their co-signer mothers who lie about their whereabouts, but I'm sure it's actually a very lovely place. I guess I'd like to go, but like most Americans I really can't afford something like that in this kind of economy. Maybe someday...

Jon's shirt says "No worry, beef curry." At first I thought it said No worry, be Kate. Which didn't make sense to me at all. Why would anyone want to be Kate? And you should be really worried if you do. I had to Google that phrase since I've never heard it, and apparently it's sort of something they say in Hawaii for some reason. Pidgin speak for no worries. Maybe a tour guide will explain it further, but I'm guessing Kate will complain about how boring the tour is and tune out before he gets to that point. I'm glad I figured this out right away, because I spent half a year wondering why Dog the Bounty Hunter was calling all his clients a brassiere until I found out that "bra" means "brother" in Hawaii speak. I don't think I'm really that well-suited for the Aloha state, but it would still be nice to visit.

Kate explains to the kids that she and Jon are going to get married again. If Kate can correct Jon, I'm going to correct Kate. Getting remarried means you're marrying someone else. Renewing your vows means you're marrying the same person again. Since I can't imagine anyone else who would marry into this madness, her only choice here is to renew her vows. But she keeps getting it wrong, over and over. I want Jon to correct her so bad, but he's never been like that. Guys usually aren't.Kate keeps making little digs at her first wedding and how she wasn't happy with it. It's super obvious, and super bitchy, too. She kind of makes it sound like the person with the purse strings, which obviously wasn't her, put their foot down on a few things, such as going to Hawaii, and Kate got all offended. How incredibly childish. If you don't like how the wedding is going at the mansion, you're welcome to throw your own wedding down at the Fire Hall on 5th and Main on your own dime. See how your photos look over there with the harsh fluorescent lighting and the coffee makers and folding tables in the background and the Mr. Mix-a-Cheapo D.J. running the thing (and who has only remotely good songs in his repertoire, such as "I Will Survive" and "Best for Last." )

Kate says they can't wait to have their own wedding with just them present and no one telling them what to do. Yee-ouch! Where is Moe? Poke this bitch. Kate assures the kids a wedding means she and Daddy are going to stay together forever. Jon kind of says nothing.Kate explains that they didn't want to do the whole six hour time change in one setting. Instead they'll break it up in San Diego so they can do three and three. I actually think that will just make it harder, because instead of just getting it over with at once, sleeping it off and be done with it, they'll have to go through it twice. The reality is I think the producers just wanted to scrounge up some things for them to do on the way to really drag this all out. Incidentally, I'm disappointed we're not in Hawaii yet. At this rate I don't think we're even going to make it to the airport before the episode is over. So now we have an entire episode just talking about going there, like so many episodes that have come before it and that I've even recapped before. So boring and so arrogant, too.

Kate says once again she wants to show the kids that she and Jon are always going to be together. Jon once again says nothing. Heh.Kate smothers Joel with kisses and tells him he's going to be a great husband. I think he will be, too, despite his mother and his dysfunctional childhood. And if he moves to certain states he can even marry another man since Jon and Kate seemed convinced he swings that way. Joel loves this affection; he is beaming and hugs Kate back so tightly. He needs so much more of this kind of thing to even begin to make up for all the rejection he's been through.Kate goes into a long explanation about how they wrote their own vows for their first wedding and are going to do it for the renewal too. In Jon's vows he says he promises to stand by Kate's side as they face "new and challenging experiences," such as day long photo shoots and filming schedules, freebies, tummy tucks, hair plugs, and selling their children's photographs to strangers for 20 bucks apiece. Kate remarks how prophetic it all was. Jon describes it as "scary." Yeah, uh, I'm gonna go with scary.

Most of the kids want to sit with Jon on the airplane, big surprise. But probably because Kate has thrown Joel a bone by giving him a few kisses earlier, he pushes all his chips in and tells Mommy he wants to sit next to her on the plane. Kate showers him with more hugs and makes a big show of it for the cameras. I'm trying not to label every nice thing she does as damage control, but this so obviously is. Especially when she goes on to explain how much they love Joel and fight over him. Since when? Kate claims they covet him. Covet? Hey, Cleopatra, I thought you're supposed to covet things like you're neighbor's wife, not your son. Weird. Anyway, she explains that it's not that she loves Joel for who he is and the special and unique and adorable personality he has, but that thou shalt love him because he's quiet on airplanes and just sits there like a zombie. Joel has apparently learned it's better just to lay low and not bug Kate with anything. That was my strategy at one of my old jobs with my crazy possibly schizoid boss, and it worked quite nicely to survive until I could quit. Unfortunately Joel can't quit Kate, but he's a good little traveler in any case I guess.

For good measure, Kate also makes it clear she hates sitting with Alexis. Oh geez, she is your child. Someone has to sit with her, and it's gonna be either you or Jon. I find out later that the nanny is coming along, so never mind, they can just pass Alexis off on her. Psyche! Coming up, Say Yes to the Dress! Say No to the Shrew! The show recaps Kate's brief stint on the TLC show Say Yes to the Dress. And I'd like to point out that show crossovers are one of my top four reasons why I think shows usually jump the shark, or stop being good anymore. The others are same role different actor, getting married, and having a baby. Well, they're getting married in this episode, so two out of three. And they've mentioned they want to adopt a baby, so I say that counts. All they need to do is replace Joel with Dakota Fanning's little brother and they're officially sunk. This whole boring thing has already been recapped before on the blog, so I refer you over there if you want to relive it. The mini-recap is Kate gets a brand new thousand dollar dress, and is super ungrateful.

Up next, Kate tortures Mady-and not just by being Kate!

We're back. It's the day before the trip. This has all gotten so boring both Jon and Kate sound like they already took their Dramamine for the long flight. Yawn, Jon tells the kids to clean their room, Kate brushes the girls' hair. Hannie can't even reach her long mane to brush it all, so it ends up just getting half brushed. They think this is cute and funny. I think it is ridiculous and not cute at all. I hope she gets lice and has to get a buzz cut. Okay, okay, I don't really wish harm on the child, but I do wish someone would cut her hair.Kate is giving all the little girls pedicures. Kate tells Mady they have to get up at five in the morning tomorrow. "Waa!" Mady replies. It sucks, but somebody's got to get up early or there would be no one to go on nice trips ever again! Waa! Kate has all the supplies for pedicures because they always give "you" a bag of pedicure stuff when you leave. They…do? Not at any place I've been to. Maybe a free foot cream sample but an actual full on do-it-yourself pedicure kit? I have a feeling that was another freebie, and Kate is either pretending it wasn't or just really stupid and out of touch.Kate is filing and buffing Mady's cute little toes like she's reaping wheat. I hope we see some sheaves stacked up by the time she's done to show for it. Mady says ouch, and Kate snaps that she's never heard anyone whine and complain like this. She cannot resist yet another dig at her family.

She says if her mom had taken the time to give her a pedicure at this age she would have sat for four hours, implying once again her mom didn't do anything for her. Maybe she didn't, who knows, although one really has to wonder when not just Kate's mom has disappeared, but so has her dad, most of Jon's extended family, Beth, Beth's kids, Nana Janet, Carla, Carla's daughter, Jodi, Jodi's kids, Uncle Kevin, the rest of Kate's siblings, and I'm sure I'm missing several but you get the idea. Kate has so many relationship issues I think she's going to explode, and she's passing them right on down to her children. Nice.I'm just going to add that when you hear one person's side of the story about an estrangement, as we have Kate's, but you haven't heard a word from the other side, her mother, I think you have to at minimum err on the side of giving the other person the benefit of the doubt. Until I hear her mother's side, and she's certainly under no obligation to speak out, Kate's not going to ever get me to assume this was all her mother's fault and not Kate's, too.

Moving on.

They packed seven suitcases, two wardrobe bags, and several carry ons. I feel like I've seen this episode before. Oh yeah, it was called Plane Ride to Utah. I'm going to skip it since it's just the same old boring blah blah. You can watch it yourself if you really want to watch this drivel. The only thing that's interesting is her wedding dress was shipped directly from New York. Wow. We see that Kate is still undermining Jon just like the good ole days. He's telling one of the little girls to get in the house. Kate warns him to "be patient with them." Is Kate for real here? She thinks so.

Coming up, Alexis is super cute. She's like a little Asian leprechaun. She will even lead her parents to a pot of gold!

Jon got up at 4 a.m. on the day of the trip. Alexis is wide awake and cheerful and ready to go and totally adorable. "It's me!!!" she says, pointing to her chest. Aw, yes it is, Lexi!Aaden scurries over to the garbage can with what honestly looks like a pair of underwear and throws it in the garbage. That's weird. Did he have a little accident? Poor little guy. Kate is absolutely nowhere to be found, I am sure she is sleeping in until the last minute, and Jon is too busy getting ready to go, so there's really no one to help him.They're all stepping into their cute little crocs. I actually like crocs, I don't think they're ugly at all like some people do, but I've heard they can actually be really dangerous like getting stuck in escalators and stuff. Eek.Does TLC think we don't watch these episodes?

This is getting hysterical. Not three or four episodes ago Kate explained that the reason everyone who loved them, or rather the kids, the most, like Beth and Jodi, were no longer in their lives was because they didn't really need helpers anymore and wanted to kind of do things themselves now. If Beth and Jodi are reading this, I wish you were still in the kids' lives. They need you.Anyway! Kate conveniently changes her tune so she can bring her nanny along and dump Alexis on her when she gets difficult. "We can't still travel without at least one helper," Kate explains in weird syntax. Jon, correct her! He won't though.

Once again a casual observer might think a free trip to Hawaii would be any nanny's dream, but I can assure you this will be all work and no sunbathing for poor Jenny, and I feel very sorry for her. Good luck with that one. Here's hoping she at least gets her own bed, but I'm not counting on it.Jon said they just need to brush their teeth, put shoes on and "brush the little girls' hair." "DO the little girls' hair," Kate corrects. Utterly unnecessary, and that Kate, is why Joel McHale over at Talk Soup predicts this show will soon be renamed, "Jon Minus Nine!" It's a really good thing you no longer need your spouse to consent to divorce, because if you did, Jon would never get one. Ever. The truth of the matter is Jenny is actually doing the little girls' hair, so Kate didn't even have to do that.

Are we supposed to feel like it's all very hectic and busy? Because I sure don't. Not feeling the drama at all. The bus comes to pick them up at five, and still no sign of Kate. On the couch, she can't even take talking about the bus coming so early, and is yawning. I really think Jon carried her to the bus, tucked her in, and handed Kate her coffee. Joel apparently took some time over this week to really ponder his decision to sit with Kate on the plane, and wisely realized he blurted that out under the influence of his mother cuddling and kissing him and was not thinking clearly. Never make important decisions like that under those circumstances. He has since remembered she's not actually normally that kind and cool around him, and has changed his tune. He now tells Jon he wants to sit with him. Jon, to his credit, tells Joel no he's a traitor and he needs to sit with Mommy. I think Jon actually doesn't want to hurt Kate's feelings here. Because as much as she laughs it off, it must hurt Kate just a little bit that the children never want to sit with her and almost always prefer Jon. Not saying she doesn't bring it on herself, but still, that must hurt. Kate doesn't just accept this though, she has to go accuse Jon of being mean to him, and now Jon is totally justified in calling Kate out. He TRIED to be nice to her and brush this aside and not hurt her feelings. She wouldn't let him. He tells her straight up she butters Joel up and might as well have a bag of Hershey kisses with her. He's doing that thing where he's half joking, half serious. I love it.

A small part of me still feels sorry for Kate that her own children aren't that crazy about her. I think deep down a lot of her behavior is overcompensating for all these shortcomings. That's not even the half of it, I think it's a whole HOST of things, but this is just one side issue contributing to her behavior, I think. Jon talks about using the camping lanterns they recently bought, or rather bought with TLC's credit card, to load the bus in the dark. We spend a ridiculous amount of time talking about this. Mady and Cara are grumps, (How dare they! It's only five a.m.), and everyone piles into the bus.

Next up, a side trip to San Diego, America's most economical vacation spot where you really can't beat the gas prices.




112 comments:

tripletsmom said...

dew,

Great recap. you did a super job. You get an A+. Just think, when there's no more Jon and Kate, there will be no more pro-G's sites. Now that's something to look forward too!

SmartyQ said...

Great recap, Dew! Kudos to you.

Anonymous said...

"How is everyone's 401k doing?" LOL..a more perfect sentiment when commenting on J&K was never better said when most of us wonder how we are even going to pay for a tank of gas to get back and forth to our JOBS these days.

Anonymous said...

My 4th episode I haven't watched!

Thanks for the great recap !

Libby said...

OMG! Excellent job recapping! I am sorry but how in heaven's name can anyone watch Kate gushing over Joel and not call it damage control?! I believe she loves her kids but she is always negative about Joel and Alexis. Anyone with half a brain and eyes and ears can see it but there are some idiotic "pro-Kate" freaks who would never admit she does anything wrong! To see her go from constantly making negative remarks about Joel, to grabbing him and begging him to sit with her and kissing and squeezing him...how could it be anything but damage control? Why did they have to show poor little Aaeden throwing away his soaked pull-up? Where the heck were the editors? Why do they show so much couch time...how fricking boring can they be? Anyway, loved the recap!

cheetos said...

OMG I haven't laughed so hard in such a long time.... I have stopped watching J & K but just seeing this recap is enough to know the gravy train is about to gain momentum and crash at the end of the hill!

la la lady said...

That recap was great fun !!! Well done, my dear. Take a bow ... and give us another some day soon.

Anonymous said...

Very good recap for what was ultimately a complete W.o.T. episode (waste of time). Thanks for posting it!

I haven't seen this mentioned in the other episode post, but I wanted to point out that KON & the twins have been to Hawaii before - this was not Kate's first time. In a previous episode, the family of four went there as their "last hurrah" before or immediately after getting pregnant with the tups.

jellocube said...

Dew!! Good to have a recap from you! It's been a while. You've pegged that harpy Kate 100%.

Anonymous said...

lol.."Well give me a magic wand and call me a fairy" That's funny!

I wanted to mention on www.truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com
has an update from/on behalf of Jodi...part of which states
"Jodi is thankful for the support that she is receiving, but at the same time, it is a constant reminder of the past. She feels like she is now at a turning point, but with the recent media coverage, it's impossible for her to move forward when more and more people are finding my blog and approaching her in real life. She appreciates the encouragement, but knows this is what she needs to do."

I, for one, want to wish her the best. lol..even though we will never meet-I feel like we have so much in common. I know what it feels like to be treated the way Kate treated her and it hurts deep down. I pray for her to stay strong.

momforthekids said...

Wonderful job Dew. Well done. I hope your 401k improves. I'm in the same boat as you. I know how you feel.

Kate is way beyond damage control. She has lied to the public way to much and we all know it. She can't turn back time. Poor Aaden, I felt sorry for him carrying his soaked pull-up. Bless his little heart. It's just sad that they had to put that on national television. Why did Jon and Kate allow that to be seen?

Anonymous said...

Interesting recap, Dew. Little Joel must wonder how his position in life changed so suddenly. Well, we know that Kate doesn't care what people think (ha, ha), so maybe she's reconsidered how icky boys are. Or maybe not.

Skraps said...

Bravo! I couldn't bear to watch it after Katie-cums said the trip "appeared". And ROFL...

"Like cherry on a sundae of poo, Kate also says, "You don't have to ask us twice!"

And you're so right about how Katie-cums is poisoning her children's minds & putting her mother in a bad light. If she hates/resents her family for whatever reason - she shouldn't put that on the kids.

Steph said...

Great recap! I thought it was pathetic when she said the trip "just appeared"...huh, really kate? never happened to me...ever! I also loved one of the girls' comments about "is the bus allowed to park in the driveway?"...and why a BUS anyway? there's only 10 of them!
saw her on Bonnie Hunt today...she looked and sounded "different" and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. maybe her teeth or some kind of appliance in her mouth??

iluveeyore said...

What kind of maniac calls a 4-year-old child a "traitor"? I'm sure the kid has absolutely no idea what that means, but by the tone Jon used when he said it, Joel probably thinks it means "murderer" -- or weiner.

Anonymous said...

She says if her mom had taken the time to give her a pedicure at this age she would have sat for four hours, implying once again her mom didn't do anything for her.

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After reading their book (don't worry, I didn't buy it - I read it at a Barnes & Noble one day), I feel even more sorry for Kate's family. They are mentioned throughout the whole book, as they were all very loving and supportive when both the twins and sextuplets were born. She says she wrote the book "for the kids," but when they read it, they will be left with more questions and feelings of emptiness when they hear how close the family used to be.

Anonymous said...

Great recap! It reminded me of one of my favorite parts of this episode that I forgot to mention:

Jon: [repeating what he said in his vows] "...As we face new and challenging experiences."
Kate: [correcting Jon] "Together."

Cut to video:
Jon: I promise to stand by you as we face new and challenging experiences.

This actually made me chuckle. She corrects him even when he's right.

Anonymous said...

...she looked and sounded "different" and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. maybe her teeth or some kind of appliance in her mouth??
Could it have been a scold's bridle? 'A scold's bridle was a torture device for women, resembling an iron muzzle or cage for the head with an iron curb projecting into the mouth and resting precariously atop the tongue.

It was designed as a mirror punishment for "scolds" — women whose speech was "riotous" or "troublesome" — by preventing them from speaking . . . '
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From Wikipedia

J said...

Did anyone notice that Jon said all the children were dressed in their clothes the night before the trip? Maybe it's just me, but it just seems lazy. Maybe if both parents AND the "helper" were all working equally, the tups could sleep in their pajamas, and be dressed in the morning?

Rosey in Washington said...

"Wow, that is really God awful of those people, not wanting to spend three or four or five grand to haul their Pennsylvanian butts to Hawaii for Jon and his special new wife Kate. Don't they like warm weather? I would estrange them too."


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Oh my gosh this is one of the best recaps I have ever read!! GREAT job! I laughed OUT LOUD so many times...I really needed those laughs!! Thank you Dew...great job again!!

liz said...

Hilarious recap! Week 2 not watching and I must say these recaps are much more exciting than the show.

Dew said...

I just had a thought, if they put the children in their clothes the night before, and poor little Aaden ended up with a wet pull up, might it possibly make his pants a little wet? Did he even wipe himself off when taking it off in the morning and throwing it out? How unsanitary and sad to have wet little private parts and thighs and then have to wear those clothes he wore to bed. Because really no one seemed to notice this had happened except the cameraman.

Anonymous said...

AWESOME recap Dew!!! I haven't laughed this hard in quite some time. Spot on!

quinn said...

The recap is a million times better than the show, thanks. Did anyone notice how distant Jon seemed? He was so quiet on the couch. I mean I know he can't get a word in normally or say anything correctly but still...he seemed different.

I was thinking today about how annoyed my husband gets if I ever correct his grammar. I try not to and I'll admit it's a bitchy controlling flaw that I have. Anyway, if I ever did that in front of someone (or about a million viewers) he'd walk away...possibly forever. LOL That really is such a bitchy thing to do. Ok I just realized that I don't want to do that anymore because it makes me like Kate in a way-yuck!

I wonder if they will show Jon's family in Hawaii? It might be something interesting to see on this oh so boring show.

Anonymous said...

I've known kids to sleep in clothes to save time in the morning, but for parents to make them? I found that to be weird!

As for the little boys, how often do they hear they are gross and dirty from Kate? Such lovely words to tell your child.....NOT!

I am BEYOND over Kate!

my9cats said...

Great job. That woman's ignorance knows no bounds.
For me, the last epi watched was Wild Horses. After watching Kate deny her family the pleasure of a beautiful sunset and Jon the wuss not saying anything, that was IT for me. Now I depend on GWOP and the wonderful recaps to keep me posted. And wonderful they are. FAR more entertaining than the show ever was.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice that Jon said all the children were dressed in their clothes the night before the trip? Maybe it's just me, but it just seems lazy. Maybe if both parents AND the "helper" were all working equally, the tups could sleep in their pajamas, and be dressed in the morning?

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They've done this before. I know they did it when they went to Utah, and I believe they also did it when they went to Oprah. Out of all the wierd/bad things KON do, this one actually makes sense to me. And, that is the only time I will defend KON =)

nancy019 said...

Dew,
Well, give me a magic wand and call me a fairy.

Ha, ha, thanks for the laugh, you are hysterical. Keep up the good work!

HW said...

Jon and Kate should have insisted that clip of Aaden throwing away his pull-up be edited. How embarrassing for the poor little boy. It's a common issue, but his parents don't need to let the world in on such a sensitive matter. They seem completely clueless to the fact that their children are being embarrassed and humiliated by this show.

They sat on the couch talking about the trip to Hawaii as though it was another burden for them. Woe is me. We have to go on yet another free trip that takes us out of our beds at the crack dawn....send more freebies now to cheer us up.

The pedicure scene made me furious. If Mady wasn't enjoying the pedicure, Kate should have just painted her toes and applied lotion. Instead, she had to make a snide remark about Mady being ungrateful.

"This wedding means we'll be together forever..." GAAAACK. Funny, our kids are secure that we'll be together forever and they haven't seen us get "remarried." They see us treating each other with respect, settling our differences without belittling each other, NOT correcting each other constantly, NOT undermining each other when it comes to their discipline, allowing them to know their extended family and keeping our family's private moments private. Oh and neither one of us slaps the other.

One more thing. The lanterns. Kate actually asked Jon "What were you lanterning?" And she has the gall to correct his speech all day long.

By the way, great recap.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Great recap! It reminded me of one of my favorite parts of this episode that I forgot to mention:

Jon: [repeating what he said in his vows] "...As we face new and challenging experiences."
Kate: [correcting Jon] "Together."

Cut to video:
Jon: I promise to stand by you as we face new and challenging experiences.

This actually made me chuckle. She corrects him even when he's right.

This is because Kate does NOT listen to HER husband for what he is actual saying and the meaning behind it; she is hearing what SHE wants to hear. It's to correct his grammar, or translate what Jon said to a meaning that is more advantageous to Kate and well being of the 'family business.

themrs said...

although there are MANY things in this episode to criticize, sleeping in pj's is a stretch. we do that when we are leaving during the night on a trip. then we just carry them to the car so they'll go back to sleep. it's not like they were put to bed in jeans and a hooded sweatshirt. the boys were in cotton shorts and tshirts and the girls had on sundresses. both were most likely as comfortable as pajamas.

Anonymous said...

I can't imagine when all this nonsense will end, however, God help J&K when it does. IMO, they ruined their family. They could have had a really beautiful thing. They could've kept it real simple, just enough to live comfortably. Now instead, their greediness will cause their children tons of grief in the years to come. We all know this because it's been proven. I can't believe that they would choose to say everyone is jealous rather than heed the warnings just a little. Nope, full steam ahead!

Anonymous said...

I actually don't hate Kate's hair. But wishWISH she would lay off the tweezers on those eyebrows. (I'm such a bi***)

Moons in Leo said...

So let me get this straight ... this was just preparation for Hawaii, and not actually the big "remarrying" LOL episode??!!

Dew, appreciate your excellent recap. Thanks so much!

I cannot believe there are still 'fans' watching this drivel. I honestly can't.

Anonymous said...

You had me up to the comment about Hannah's hair. That was wholly unnecessary, and qualifying it with not wishing harm to a child didn't help. That was just wrong.

Anonymous said...

Kate made a comment on a recent episode about Mady's teacher saying Mady needed to work on some things (not sure of the exact quote).

It's sad that we never see J&K helping the twins with their homework, doing math flash-cards, or reading to them. It's pathetic, really.

I wonder if J&K ever stop to consider that all of the kids need to be IN SCHOOL instead of taking time off for all these hither-yither-and-yon vacations.

HW said...

I didn't catch Kate's comment about Mady needing to work on some things at school. But how insensitive of her. Grades are a private matter between a teacher, student and parents. Poor Mady, having the whole world know she is struggling in school. Of course, if she were allowed to actually GO TO SCHOOL, she might perform better.
For the life of me, I can't understand how these parents can keep embarrassing their children. I used to be angry, now I'm just sad for these kids because their parents are so selfish and insensitive.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this recap as I no longer watch the show. I cringed when you described Kate showering Joel with attention and telling the camera she and Jon fight over him. PUH-LEASE! Have we not eyes, have we not seen? What a liar this women is. I simply can not stand her. Of course none of the kids want to sit with her, can't imagine who would want to. She is the queen of the show wherever she happens to be and in whatever situation they find themselves. The kids are simply accessories. Bad Kate, Bad!

lifeoriley said...

Hilarious recap--I didn't watch the whole episode so I have to rely on what was said here.

I agree with a comment above that we shouldn't say disparaging things about the kids (Hannie's hair), however. The adults, IMO, are fair game. They made the choice to expose themselves on national TV--they are going to get snarked on, critcized, even praised (!?)-- but they have to take the good with the bad. Otherwise, here's a novel idea-- get off TV, don't do interviews or consent to have yourselves photographed. Gee, what a concept--live your life privately.
Even pro- Gosselin sites are gulity of talking about the kids (Maddy comes to mind). Also, if as a fan, you state that one or another Gosselin kid is your "favorite" or the "cutest" what does that message convey to the other, "less popular" tups?

Anonymous said...

Congrats on the review of Kate's hair. What hairstylist would come up with that awful cut. The back is layered and spiked, the front all one length. You have one or the other but not both. And it drives me crazy when she puts it behind her ear and it sticks out. I just want to take my sissors to it!
In watching this weeks show, it is very evident that the tone has changed. What used to be so focused on everyday living, and the difficulties that they have in raising the children, to being able to travel on luxury trips, free expensive designer wedding gown, (which I thought was quite excessive for renewing their vows), and the many, many fortunate giveaways they seem to get quite frequently. I highly doubt they ever have to pay for a outting to a baseball game, amusement park, musuem, lego land, and the list goes on and on and on.
I personally enjoyed when they were not affected by all the publicity and notoriety. Kate has really changed a lot. She comes across snooty, and has this air about her like now she is really something special. And did you all notice that she plays with the kids now....I wonder why?
And poor Mady. It is very evident that she does not like the cameras since she is getting older. It is too bad Jon+Kate are too busy making boo hoo bucks to see that.
But the kids are so adorable, I just love them. They are growing up so fast.

Anonymous said...

I just found this blog and love it. Finally, someone (many) think the same things I do. I hope TLC reads this. I hope J&K do too. I wish they'd get a grip with reality and get out of this money-hungry attitude they have.....for their kids sake.
Thanks to everyone who contributes to this blog!

Anonymous said...

I know everyone talks about Kate's hair and that bizarre style......do any of you recall the episode where she was getting her hair done the day before their trip to Disneyworld and how disgusted the stylist seemed when Kate reminded her to put the "spikes" in the back. I believe that she said something like ~ "she always has to have those spikes in the back" Even the stylist seemed to question this style.

Anonymous said...

Among a number of petty things that were just merely annoying, the comments to Hannah about "we'll be together forever" and Hannah's reaction stood out.
What kind of conversations must be taking place to make a 4-year-old react so strongly to a statement like that from her mother?
I've never had that discussion with my child and unless I were actively thinking of dissolving a family through divorce, I can't imagine why Kate would feel the need to emphasize what should be a given in those children's world.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone caught the little icon at the bottom of the screen that appears every so often on TLC shows recently? It says something like, "Hawaii Month" referring to J&K. Looks like we're in for a LONG and drawn out recap of the Hawaii trip. Viewers will be dropping like flies. One can only hope.

Nat said...

AWESOME RECAP!!!! Very funny and pretty much read my mind when I was watching the show.

Everyone always does such a great job on these recaps... I savor them and laugh my a$$ off on every one!!!!

Anonymous said...

Despite quite obviously having a personal stylist now, Kate's hair is truly horrendous. Oh, it's gone way past reverse mullet or a hyena's butt, as others have described it so well."

LOL. I was just saying something about the reverse mullet yesterday. My teenager had this weird hair thing going on up front and I jokingly said she was going for the 80's look. Somehow we got into a conversation about what to tell hairstylists when you go in. I told them I would be asking for 'business in the front and party in the back' so I could be like Mrs. Dugger. My 10 yr old thought this was hilarious since he'd never heard it described this way and wondered if there was a 'party in front and business in back' style. I said oh yes, that is the Kate Gosselin. She's got the long hair in front, spiky in back fad going on : )

Anonymous said...

Kate made a comment on a recent episode about Mady's teacher saying Mady needed to work on some things (not sure of the exact quote).

It's sad that we never see J&K helping the twins with their homework, doing math flash-cards, or reading to them. It's pathetic, really.
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I had the impression it was something to do with personality or getting along with others. I would be shocked if any of these kids did fit in well at school with the way they are being raised. They are spoiled beyond belief with THINGS but given no positive individual attention or discipline. They probably wonder why they should bother with rules or doing what other kids their age do.

Anonymous said...

...she looked and sounded "different" and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. maybe her teeth or some kind of appliance in her mouth??
Could it have been a scold's bridle? 'A scold's bridle was a torture device for women, resembling an iron muzzle or cage for the head with an iron curb projecting into the mouth and resting precariously atop the tongue.

It was designed as a mirror punishment for "scolds" — women whose speech was "riotous" or "troublesome" — by preventing them from speaking . . . '
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Oh. My. Gosh. This was hilarious!
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Dew said...

My criticism of Hannah's hair, and maybe it wasn't clear, really has to do with her parents. She is only four years old and not old enough to have the final say on how her hair will be. I'm sure plenty of four year olds want to have a purple mohawk and wear cowboy chaps and a feather boa to school every day, doesn't mean parents should let them. Kate has told us Hannie wants long hair. Well, it's not really practical, sanitary or attractive. Kate as the mother of a FOUR YEAR OLD needs to step up and say no your hair needs to be cut. You don't need a buzz cut, but a reasonable length so that you can at least brush it yourself is what you are going to get. Obviously I do not really wish lice on her, I said I didn't. I wasn't calling the child ugly, I was expressing my disgust at her parents who refuse to control her ridiculous hair and moreover, think it's "cute."

Anonymous said...

hw said, "I didn't catch Kate's comment about Mady needing to work on some things at school."
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It wasn't school work. Mady's first grade teacher told Kate that Mady needs an extracurricular activity, because of Mady's active mind. That's why they started violin lessons.

Anonymous said...

Okay, right up front, this is not aimed at the child...but what is with the very long fingernails on Cara? Most young children have shorter nails. A little easier for a child to keep clean. No insult to the child, just noticable on the Good Housekeeping picture.

Anonymous said...

Usually I find these recaps funny. This one I find full of bitterness and spite.

trinityella said...

Did anyone notice, I think it was in the beginning of the show, Jon was talking and messing with his hands, or twiddling his fingers or something, and Kate was just staring at his hands, then his face, then his hands, and it looked like she was biting her tongue trying her very hardest to hold back and not say anything about Jon twiddling his fingers or criticize what he was saying or doing. I was cracking up!!

Laura Linger said...

Pedicures aren't for everyone. I myself am a fan of the procedure and even I can't take the tickling on my feet sometimes, not to mention sitting still for an hour during all of the scrubbing, scraping, filing, etc. I have to be in the right frame of mind.

Some people can't take that kind of thing on their feet. Kate should have respected Mady's take on the home pedicure, instead of insulting the child and taking it all so personally.

Thousand-dollar trip, nothing. Try TEN thousand-dollar trip. That's much nearer the mark.

vipersue said...

It seems to me that TLC likes to stereotype the kids to make the show less boring and give us posters something to talk about. Mady is the difficult child, Joel the neglected one, Hannah the favorite child etc. I think they carefully edit the footage to fit these images.I think we are now seeing Aiden being made the backward child with scenes of him throwing away a pull up diaper at 4 1/2 yrs old and I also noticed he put his shoes on the wrong feet. I am disgusted with J&K for allowing this to happen. These children need privacy and if Aiden is a little less mature than his siblings the last thing he needs is to be made fun of by the kids at school.

Anonymous said...

Some people can't take that kind of thing on their feet. Kate should have respected Mady's take on the home pedicure, instead of insulting the child and taking it all so personally.

I bet once the polish was applied Mady was as happy as could be about the pedicure. She just didnt like the way some of it felt. She didnt like the pain from the ear piercing either but once it was over she was happy to have done it. Thats just how some kids are. No big deal.

SmartyQ said...

Other things that have come to me anent Monday's episode:

• Did anyone notice that 'toilet' apparently is now acceptable to use by Kon et al? (Remember when, in OB, Jenny said 'toilet,' and one of the girl tups called her on it? Jenny then corrected herself to 'potty.') On Monday's episode, QFI said 'toilet' as did one of the children.

• Why did Aaden have to bring his wet pull-up downstairs to dispose of it? I didn't think much about it until I read GWoP. I then realized that it was unnecessary humiliation of the child and further proof that nothing is sacred in the name of the almight buck. Late last night an awful thought hit me: What if it was Kon's punishing him for needing pullups? I remember when Kon said Leah was forced to wear her vomit clothes all day to teach her not to vomit, and I wonder.

• Amongst the really really stupid statements made by the Kon concerned Alexis's frequent need to urinate. The PC surmises that what Alexis really wants is to get out of her airplane seat to stretch her legs. Alexis, he explains, does not understand this is the issue nor does she know how to explain it to her parents.

Alexis wishing to stretch her legs makes sense to me, but I think I must have missed the part where one of the RC was going to ask her if this is what she wants to do, which, if true, of course, be one less pressure on, especially, QFI. Anyone else catch QFI or the PC saying s/he would talk to Alexis about it?

• The PC ordered his nuptial vow cargo pants?!? It wasn't that his suitcase was lost? OMG!

Anonymous said...

I haven't been watching for over a month but I love your recaps.

I must respectfully say that wishing lice on Hannah (or even a haircut) was a little uncalled for and the comments about Hawaiian slang... borderline offensive.

I live in Hawaii and it's just slang...similar to Creole in the south.

And having long hair means something special in the Hawaiian culture. Jon has roots in Hawaii so I know he wants to expose his kids to some of that culture so I think it's fine that Hannah has long hair. I respect Jon for trying to diversify his childrens' knowledge through food, culture, etc. If Kate was not married to Jon, I have a feeling she wouldn't know anything about Asians or any other culture for that matter.

Otherwise, I do enjoy your recaps.

Anonymous said...

I respect Jon for trying to diversify his childrens' knowledge through food, culture, etc. If Kate was not married to Jon, I have a feeling she wouldn't know anything about Asians or any other culture for that matter.
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If Jon REALLY wanted his kids to know about their heritage, he should go straight to the sources : his grandparent(s) and mom.

Thus far, we have seen the kids eat 2 Asian meals - the "Korean" dinner epi (with all the ignorant ah-so's from Kate) and Jon's birthday when they went to a chain hibachi restaurant (ie, not exactly authentic). Not to say it doesn't happen, but it definitely does not seem to be a normal thing for the family.Although, the kids did eat those wasabi peas like they were popcorn =)

As far as we know, no extended family was part of their renewal ceremony, even though Jon himself mentioned he still has relatives there and his mom grew up there.

Regarding Kate - her idea of another culture is EuroDisney.

I am 100% Korean, born and raised in the USA, and it's so sad that Jon doesn't exhibit any of the wonderful qualities that Korean people seem to embrace : respect, family, education, etc.

Chris said...

I didn't see the show, so I'm only going by what has been posted here so far.

Did Aaden really throw away a used diaper/pullup unwrapped? I would never throw away a used diaper or anything like that unwrapped. As a cardcarrying member of the "sandwich generation" I have wrapped up many a diaper (child and adult) and I've taught my girls that this is something that we do. Those plastic grocery bags are great for this. Wet diapers get single bagged and soiled diapers and kitty litter get double bagged. It's just common decency. If your disposal company has a MRF (material reclamation facility) I'm sure their employees appreciate people who do this.

Dew said...

"And having long hair means something special in the Hawaiian culture. Jon has roots in Hawaii so I know he wants to expose his kids to some of that culture so I think it's fine that Hannah has long hair."

They have never remotely implied that Hannah's long hair is a cultural thing. They have always said Hannah just likes it that way and that they refuse to be parents and tell her no. They have repeatedly said how difficult it is to manage, we have repeatedly seen her hair all in front of her eyes so she can barely see and it's frankly a safety hazard. They don't seem to want to put in the work to make a haircut like this manageable. It has now become a nuisance, a safety hazard, unattractive, unsanitary. And frankly the way I see it, it is a spoiled 4 year old who is able to manipulate her parents like this such that they can't even force her to get a decent haircut. Parents are the parents and make the decisions, children are the children and need to obey. Of course Jon and Kate have no problem being parents when it comes to making decisions about their children's money, work schedule, places they will be carted to in front of the cameras, conveniently.

Hannah cannot brush all her hair herself, Jon and Kate have said this quite clearly. When she is old enough to be able to brush all her hair and can prove she can take care of a haircut like this by herself, by all means allow her to have this haircut. Until then, too bad.

If they were actually doing it to help this four year old get in touch with her Hawaiian roots that's different. But Jon and Kate don't seem to care about roots. They've estranged most family members who have any connection to roots. The way I see it, they care about how much money they can make tomorrow, not how much good times and love and togetherness and culture can we savor of the past.

Jackie said...

I really can't believe this show anymore! It's disgusting. Renewing wedding vows in Hawaii? Kate's first wedding looked beautiful - so I really don't get this. It's a huge leap away from wondering where the paper towels were going to come from. It turns my stomach.

On a side note, Kate seemed much more cheery on this episode. I guess the thought of being a princess - again - in an expensive gown has improved her mood.

Kate said...

Cute recap - though you should note that a trip to Hawaii for 11 people, costs thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars. Not "a thousand."

Ravello said...

Poor Aeden, he will be teased and some day he will die of embarassment over the pull up.
TMI
But anything for a buck, the KONS pimped out their family a few years ago. Nothing is sacred.

Someday the KONS will realize money does not buy happiness, even if they end up driving fancier cars or living in a big fancy KON Pound.

Exhausted from KON said...

Since so many of us (myself included) are no longer watching the show, TLC could save a lot of money just by having GWP do recaps for us to read instead! And you don't really need an actual episode to recap - just put some of the recurring themes together with a change in scenery! For example, the G's could "go" to Paris. Kate goes shopping and spends a ton of money, spends most of the trip in a spa, all the while exhausted. Jon gets a tour of a famous winery with lots of free champagne to take home. Alexis gets to sleep in the gutter near the Eiffel Tower, Joel gets left behind and no one misses him for 6 days, Mady learns how to say eff you to the cameraman in French - you get the idea! Just think, TLC - no more spending cash for plane tickets, no more salary for KON, no cost to you! Because let's face it - these episodes are stale and repetitive. How many different plot lines can you have about greedy pathetic people?

Anonymous said...

Cute recap - though you should note that a trip to Hawaii for 11 people, costs thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars. Not "a thousand."

Definitely. I work for Make-A-Wish, and it can cost almost $10K to send a family of four to Hawaii for six days. And by the way, I would argue with that resort director that those are the kids who "deserve" to go to Hawaii.

Melibee said...

Okay, right up front, this is not aimed at the child...but what is with the very long fingernails on Cara? Most young children have shorter nails. A little easier for a child to keep clean. No insult to the child, just noticable on the Good Housekeeping picture.

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In the episode where the twins begin piano lessons there was a scene in which Kate was clipping Cara's LONG nails so that she'd be able to play piano and was saying how nice and pretty and long Cara's nails were. They were really gross, in my opinion, on such a little girl no less! Can't imagine them being hygenic either... oh sorry, only the "icky boys" have germy hands, right? ;-)

But I would gather that if Cara's nails are all gangly again that they must have quit their piano lessons. Maybe their busy travel schedule got in the way. *eyeroll*

Anonymous said...

Steph said...

.and why a BUS anyway? there's only 10 of them!

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Yeah, 10 of them plus camera men, sound men, producer and Jenny. I dont fault them for the bus at all.


Also, I do not see a thing wrong with the kids sleeping in the pj's. As other posters have mentioned, they were soft outfits, whats the big deal?

Anonymous said...

"I haven't seen this mentioned in the other episode post, but I wanted to point out that KON & the twins have been to Hawaii before - this was not Kate's first time. In a previous episode, the family of four went there as their "last hurrah" before or immediately after getting pregnant with the tups."

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That is not correct. They took the twins to Disney as their last hurrah, not Hawaii.

Anonymous said...

Definitely. I work for Make-A-Wish, and it can cost almost $10K to send a family of four to Hawaii for six days. And by the way, I would argue with that resort director that those are the kids who "deserve" to go to Hawaii.
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I agree 300%. If you can, please send her your comments. The fact that you work for a wonderful cause such as the MAW Foundation, your messge would be even more meaningful.

avasmommy said...

But the difference is that the ear piecing was Mady's choice. She knew it would hurt, she was forewarned. But she decided that having pierced ears would be worth it too her. The pedicure was not something she chose to do. This was Kate's controlling and manipulative way to not only perform damage control, but to make sure her girls' looks were up to her standards. After reading all of the comments about the pedicure session, I have mixed emotions. I believe that Mady enjoyed having her toes painted, spending time with mommy, and doing what all the other girls' were doing. However, I also feel that to go as far as scrubbing her heels is a little too far. A simple trim of the nails and polish applying was truly all that was need for an 8 yr. old. She would have been happy, and Kate should have been happy too. But as usual, Kate had to control the situation and hark on Mady for being whiny.

Ilovemykids said...

Someday the KONS will realize money does not buy happiness, even if they end up driving fancier cars or living in a big fancy KON Pound.

Sadly, that IS what makes Kon happy - material things.

Anonymous said...

"How many different plot lines can you have about greedy pathetic people?"

IMO, If the premise of J & K + 8 reality show is a 'documentary' to depict a 'day in the life of' it is very obvious to this viewer that the Gosselin family are extremely lacking the spontaneity and diversity that creates the makings of every day life. Each passing episode of this reality show more often then not resembles a plot line similar to that of the movie 'Ground Hog Day'.
Different day, but the same thing over and over and over again. Including the J & K couch throne confessionals with their; we decided to, we were invited to, we thought it would be a good idea if we, proceeded by images of J & K packing or unpacking suitcases or the family vehicle and the monotone exclaimations of 'awesome'. The obvious damage control , timing of the 'meltdowns' as well as stratigically placed product placement have become all too predictable.

Anonymous said...

I will have to say that when I originally came to this site, I was shocked and really turned off my Jon and Kate and everything that was going on.

However, it seems those posting here are just as petty. The nit picking is stupid. The caddy comments are unrelenting. You are taking a legitimate complaint of the children getting overexposed and making it into a cat fight with all of the witchiness. Thus discrediting your complaints. These actions are hurting your cause.

If KON does something one way you complain, if they do it the other way it's damage control. If they are being nice to their children they are faking, if they are strict they are too mean, if they are too nice they are not taking control of their children, it goes on and on.

Yes the overexposure of the children is too much - the show should end. But the way this blog is approaching it is becoming just as bad. You are burying your legitimate arguments under alot of nonsense.

Anonymous said...

The comments about Hannah's hair I find ridiculous. So what if they like her hair long, I don't see how that makes them bad parents.

lifeoriley said...

The cost of this trip well-exceeded $10,000, IMO. My sister is a travel agent and she said that the Grand Wailea is very expensive. Also, must resorts in Hawaii charge a resort fee and there are lodging taxes as well. The accommodations alone could've cost around $10,000--not including meals.
Also, the vow renewal ceremony was not free-- you have to pay to use the facilities (not cheap)--plus the G's had a reception with a cake afterwards (more $$).
The airfare would depend on various factors--but because they flew to San Diego and then to Hawaii--that would add to the cost. Add to that lodging, meals and activities in San Diego.
Also, Kleinfeld's has a MINIMUM price tag of $1,800 per gown--Kate's gown probably was not the minimum price.
In all, this trip could've easily cost $20-30,000 (or more, depending on variables). This trip would be way out of the financial means of the typical family of four--never mind ten people.

Anonymous said...

From what I read on the net, TLC will be running shows weekly to build up the suspense of the Hawaii trip. It is suppose to be a hour long special. We should (viewers) get white rice and throw it at the tv set when the last I do is said....:-)

Anonymous said...

The really sad thing is that the baby cuddling time is gone - wasted. You can't get back that one on one bonding time. But it's not too late to create some memories now. Not trips, etc. But the kind where you sit in a chair with a book, reading to your child. Talk to them and LISTEN! They will remember these times. Yes, they will remember some parts of the trips, but even if they don't remember the book or specific conversation I promise they will remember being made special and not just one of a group.
A couple of the children seem to be a little behind other children this age. Perhaps some quality one on one time will improve some of these issues. But it can't be a show for the cameras.
Please Jon and Kate - these are YOUR children. Treat them as special as they are. Don't let more time go by without the real memories. Turn off the cameras and pray they don't remember much of that time.

dotsicle said...

The comments about Hannah's hair I find ridiculous. So what if they like her hair long, I don't see how that makes them bad parents.
The point is, HANNAH wants her hair long and the parents allow it, even though it means she can't learn to care for her own hair like her sisters. It ALSO means that the parents allow 4-year-olds to dictate what they will and will not do. That may not be exploitation, but neither is it wise parenting.

Anonymous said...

If KON does something one way you complain, if they do it the other way it's damage control. If they are being nice to their children they are faking, if they are strict they are too mean, if they are too nice they are not taking control of their children, it goes on and on.
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I bet it wasn't your intent, but you just nailed the reason(s) WHY opinions and criticisms of the Gosselins are like a roller coaster.

I think the Gosselins have been portrayed in a very inconsistent light. Comments and criticisms are all over the place because viewers are responding to what they see. They're (the Gosselins) damned if they do or don't because as this ridiculous series drags on, the inconsistencies become more apparent to viewers who pay attention. When credibility is questioned, "benefit of the doubt" is harder to apply. I don't understand why this concept is so hard for some to understand.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
From what I read on the net, TLC will be running shows weekly to build up the suspense of the Hawaii trip. It is suppose to be a hour long special. We should (viewers) get white rice and throw it at the tv set when the last I do is said....:-)

TLC has been re running episodes of J & K + 8 on a weekly basis over this entire past year!!

Nichole from PA said...

Great recap! I give you guys a lot of credit because I DON'T watch this show anymore, I stopped after the Thomas the Tank Engine trip ... I'm just totally turned off now. Anyway, your recap even made me laugh a couple times! Great job.

Anonymous said...

As an additional note to lifeofriley:

I think this trip is more in the range of $50,000+.

My family( 4 of us) and in-laws ( 1 set of grandparents, SIL family/4, BIL family/4) all stayed at the GW 2 years ago. Let me just tell you, even by Hawaii's standards, Wailea, Maui is considered very expensive. I will try to break it down into educated guesstimates based on my experience :

LODGING:
Our rooms were discounted because my BIL is a member of the GW Club -our rooms were about $500/night. If you stay in the more luxurious Napua Tower, it's probably closer to $800/night. And this price is just for a standard room, KON's family could have stayed in fancy suites.

FOOD:
VERY EXPENSIVE, and the hotel borders on offensively expensive. The "cafe" at the hotel charged approximately $20 for 2 cups of coffee and 2 scones. Burgers by the pool are about $15. There are many local restaurants that have better food and are cheaper, but in general, food is crazy expensive.

AIRFARE:
Our little family of 4 ( 2 adults, 9 year old, 2 year old) cost about $3000 flying coach, with a stop in Atlanta.

MISC:
Hotel fees, island excursions (wonder if they did any or did Kate spend here entire time inside the hotel at the spa?), the wedding ceremony , etc.

I hope everyone sends letters of disappointment to the GW.

Anonymous said...

Caught the beginning of the rerun last night.

After seeing the first 5 minutes when Kate is gushing over Joel, I had to change the channel. TLC must think we are as uneducated and ignorant as KON are and that we wouldn't pick up on this blatant, scripted scene. Blegh.

Instead tuned in to the World Series. Unfortunately for the Phillies, all I can think about is the episode (that I did not watch) where they hosted Jon, the boys and Cara.

Anonymous said...

The comments about Hannah's hair I find ridiculous. So what if they like her hair long, I don't see how that makes them bad parents.
The point is, HANNAH wants her hair long and the parents allow it, even though it means she can't learn to care for her own hair like her sisters. It ALSO means that the parents allow 4-year-olds to dictate what they will and will not do. That may not be exploitation, but neither is it wise parenting."

I wonder if one of the little boys wanted his hair to never be cut would they go along with it? Or what about Alexis? Of course not! They both favor Hannah and it is ridiculous. They deem her the 'leader' and let the 4 year old rule the roost. Yeah, I'm sure she's going to grow up well mannered (riiight). The point of shorter, manageable hair: JON gets up with them and does their hair. Not Kate. He can't "do" the hair right if it's very long and not cut in a particular style like the others. They can't do it themselves yet. However, Hannah is allowed to make her own decision just because she is Hannah. It's crap. Either cut it like the rest of them or show more equality among the children. I'll bet Mady or Cara would like really long hair, too, but I'm sure they don't have a choice.

Anonymous said...

Yes the overexposure of the children is too much - the show should end. But the way this blog is approaching it is becoming just as bad. You are burying your legitimate arguments under alot of nonsense."

You say 'the show should end'. And yet it does not. So yes, the same comments will continue as more and more people get fed up and find this blog and then come here to voice their opinion. No one is forced to read them, however. You got one thing right. They should pull the plug on the show. Trying to dictate how others should feel and write will not work though..

Anonymous said...

Those plastic grocery bags are great for this. Wet diapers get single bagged and soiled diapers and kitty litter get double bagged. It's just common decency. If your disposal company has a MRF (material reclamation facility) I'm sure their employees appreciate people who do this.

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this sounds ridiculously wasteful.
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I agree. Diapers that are disposable are bad enough in landfills without double bagging in plastic! You can roll them up and tape them over on themselves and just toss them. No extra bagging needed.

Anonymous said...

It ALSO means that the parents allow 4-year-olds to dictate what they will and will not do. That may not be exploitation, but neither is it wise parenting."
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As part of a college course on child development I attended a parenting seminar. The speaker talked about letting children make their own decisions, particularly on stuff that does not conflict with their own well-being.

I know some people are arguing that Hannah has hair in her eyes sometimes, which they're calling a safety hazard, but it's rare enough that I don't consider it an issue. I don't recall Hannah ever walking into walls or tripping over things as a direct result of hair in her eyes. If it was a big issue, a hairband would solve it without the need for a haircut.

Others have said that it is not sanitary because she cannot brush it all the way with her four-year-old arms. How sanitary her hair is has nothing to do with how well it's brushed. Her hair is washed every evening, and even if it was a rat's nest, it would still be a clean rat's nest.

It does not concern me that a four-year-old is incapable of brushing all of her own hair herself. If she hits six or seven and can't do it, then I'd say it was a problem, but four-year-olds in general lack the fine motor skills and arm-length necessary to brush and style their own hair.

I just think this is one of those cases where there's absolutely nothing wrong with them allowing their child to make her own choice on an issue. If Hannah likes long hair, why not let her keep it? It's not in the same league as irresponsible decisions like allowing children to choose their own bedtimes or allowing them to choose to eat candy instead of supper.

Anonymous said...

I just think this is one of those cases where there's absolutely nothing wrong with them allowing their child to make her own choice on an issue. If Hannah likes long hair, why not let her keep it? It's not in the same league as irresponsible decisions like allowing children to choose their own bedtimes or allowing them to choose to eat candy instead of supper.
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And yet no one else is able to make simple decisions without Kate controlling them all. They can't even have a say with the huge ones like whether or not they want their parents to exploit them and live off them. But if it's Hannie-Poo, I guess it's ok.

Anonymous said...

But if it's Hannie-Poo, I guess it's ok.

Dew? Is that you?

Mom. said...

I think that Jon & Kate should turn the cameras off and give their family some privacy. However, I do think that sometimes the points that GWoP administrators hold on too are not strong enough to justify criticizing the show so much. Exploitation? Not allowing your children the right of privacy? for sure. But questioning some parenting decisions such as allowing your daughter to have long hair, or calling your son a "traitor" as a joke because he chose to sit with mommy is a bit extreme. In my opinion, it is also extreme (of course, now I'm referring to some of the comments) to say that by allowing your daughter to have long nails or long hair, you're dangerously letting a four-year-old in charge. As a parent, you have to be flexible and let your children make some decisions as long as it doesn't affect their well being.

Dew said...

"But if it's Hannie-Poo, I guess it's ok.

Dew? Is that you?"

LOL, no! I don't post annoymously, when I make a comment I stand behind it. Funny comment though!

"So what if they like her hair long, I don't see how that makes them bad parents."

Not bad parents, just ridiculous ones. Long hair is indeed unsanitary when it is hanging in front of a child's eyes picking up dirt, food particles, glue and things like that. So yes it is unsanitary. The issue here is not whether Hannah has long hair. I could care less if she has long hair. The issue is that she is not old enough to care for it, and Jon, the only adult who actually gets up with his children for school or trips or anything else, doesn't know how to care for it properly. If Kate can manage to drag herself out of bed, help this child brush through her hair every morning, and pull it back with a pretty headband or hair tie, it would not be an issue. See the difference? No adult is stepping up. I have said all along, either take care of this child's hair every morning, or cut it. Many, MANY schools I know would send a note home to a parent kindly asking them to do something about their child's hair when it is all over her face in gym class, when trying to write, other school activities, etc. In fact I've seen a note just like this when a young man I babysat refused to cut his bangs, which is the style now for boys, letting them just fly in front of his eyes. His school said enough is enough.

Neglecting her hair, and for that matter Cara's nails, is not abuse by any means. But it's tacky parenting, lazy parenting. It's not teaching children proper hygeine which is a parent's job. When you don't teach it you can bet your bottom dollar you'll have a smelly nasty teenager whom all the kids make fun of at school in a few years' time. Every school has a kid like this whose parents you can bet thought their bad hygeine was "cute" when they were four, too.

By all means let children win a few battles. But Hannah should win this battle if and only if she proves she can take care of her hair. She has certainly not proven that at all.

Anonymous said...

But if it's Hannie-Poo, I guess it's ok.

Dew? Is that you?"

LOL, no! I don't post annoymously, when I make a comment I stand behind it. Funny comment though!

"So what if they like her hair long, I don't see how that makes them bad parents."
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Yep, I can say it's not her. It's me : ) And I stand by what I say, just don't feel like making a log in since it's easy to just click anonymous.

Anonymous said...

But questioning some parenting decisions such as allowing your daughter to have long hair, or calling your son a "traitor" as a joke because he chose to sit with mommy is a bit extreme.
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Calling a 4 year old a traitor is not a joke since these 4 year olds do not even understand what traitor means. Furthermore, 4 year olds do not get sarcasm like this and likely had no clue what his father was saying, only that it seemed he had a negative opinion of him agreeing to sit with mom. Yes, he smiled at Jon. But he is 4 and also not used to getting much positive attention. He probably liked all the conversations his parents were having with him while they filmed those phony scenes. It would be a joke you tell a teenager though, not a young kid.

Anonymous said...

The point is, HANNAH wants her hair long and the parents allow it, even though it means she can't learn to care for her own hair like her sisters. It ALSO means that the parents allow 4-year-olds to dictate what they will and will not do. That may not be exploitation, but neither is it wise parenting.

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Um, the kid is four. She wants long hair, more power to her. Maybe it's too difficult for her to learn how to comb or put in a pony tail or what ever now, but she will learn and in the meantime, that's what parents are for. A child needs to be able to think for themselves. If she wants long hair, more power to her. Good for the Gosselins for listening to the kid and allowing her to be who she is...a little girl with long hair.
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It ALSO means that the parents allow 4-year-olds to dictate what they will and will not do
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Sillyness. It's HAIR. The parents are very much in control and they are not allowing the kids to dictate them by letting Hannie keep her long HAIR. Good Lord.

Anonymous said...

Calling a 4 year old a traitor is not a joke since these 4 year olds do not even understand what traitor means. Furthermore, 4 year olds do not get sarcasm like this and likely had no clue what his father was saying,

Joel looked like he enjoyed the whole exchsnge.

Anonymous said...

Just for the record... if you go to any sort of reputable place for a pedicure, they do give you the foot file, nail file, and little toe separators.

Anonymous said...

Yeah but what four year old child understands what the word traitor means either?

and for the record Dew, I'm pretty sure that if Kate "stepped in" and personally brushed Hannah's hair, you'd have something to say about that as well.

nancy019 said...

From what I read on the net, TLC will be running shows weekly to build up the suspense of the Hawaii trip. It is suppose to be a hour long special. We should (viewers) get white rice and throw it at the tv set when the last I do is said....:-)

I would rather throw rocks...

Anonymous said...

I think Jon & Kate are funny and entertaining and I'm sure if anyone was offered a free trip they would take it.

Dew said...

"just don't feel like making a log in since it's easy to just click anonymous."

You don't need to log in. I never do. If you click "name/url" you can just type in your name. Takes just a second longer than clicking annoymous, but a lot quicker than logging in.

Anonymous said...

I knew who wrote this recap one paragraph in.

Sour grapes and bitterment. For hating something so much, the show sure is watched with great interest to every tiny little detail.

It's just not funny to read such resentment. It's creepy.

I'm sure this comment won't make it through, but I feel better writing it.

Anonymous said...

You guys realize you are grown adults on a blog on the internet discussing the length of HAIR on a 4 year old?

Seriously.

The long, drawn out excuse as to why long hair is unsanitary is truly grasping at straws. Try to direct a small portion of the passion you are showing toward a child's hair to something productive.

It's truly gotten frightening around here.

Anonymous said...

I can't stand the way Kate never misses an opportunity to take a stab at her family/parents. I would feel so hurt and wondered where I went wrong in bringing up my kids if they every showed such an ungrateful attitude such as their first wedding not being good enough.

momforthekids said...

anonymous said:

"Sour grapes and bitterment". Well, that is exactly what Kate has. How ironic that you should come here and say that. You say that your sure your comment won't make it through, but you feel better for writing it? Sounds like you have some sour grapes and bitterment too. If you don't like what is said here, don't come here then. I'm sure no one is holding a gun to your head to make you come here. You come here out of your own free will. After all, this is a free country, and we can say whatever we want. So, get over it!

machinegunsmom said...

Yeah, this episode had my blood boiling. My husband and I are 20 and 22, and got married at the courthouse under that harsh, unflattering fluorescent lighting and got a few fuzzy, dark pictures with our $150 digital camera. I didn't have a wedding dress, we could have just been going to church or even a nice dinner in what we were wearing. They had a beautiful wedding they didn't have to pay for at a friend's mansion, got some wonderful professional pictures from what I can tell, Kate had a perfectly nice gown (and looked a whole heck of a lot better with normal hair!)...and she's sitting there making digs at her family and friends for not shelling out the cash to send them to Hawaii and claims that they've always wondered what could have been...it seems like in at least ONE episode she said they had a great wedding. But then of course while she was blathering on about how boring and annoying she thought renewal ceremonies were, my husband pointed out "but since we're getting a free trip to Hawaii out of it..." Exactly.

Oh and I definitely noticed her smothering Joel after the wicked burn he got a couple of episodes ago...I've lost track since I can no longer watch them being handed freebie after freebie and pointing out the differences between boys and girls. How come the little girls didn't get to go to the baseball game? Oh, because kitchens are for girls, Thomas and sports are for boys and Cara, since Cara "is" Jon. Right.

Since I'm super-nosy I think it would be marvelous if Kate's parents did come out of the woodwork for an episode of the Today Show or something and blow Kate's glossy cover.

Dew said...

"Um, the kid is four. She wants long hair, more power to her."

RIIIGHT that is my point, she is only four. By what parenting theory is it advised to give a four-year-old all the power? Children with power are consistently unhappy children, manipulitive children, undisiplined children. Children that age are so impressionable, need SO much guidance at this point, including a reasonable length of the hair. She doesn't need to forego long hair completely, she should just have it short enough that she can reach it. Maybe they need only cut a few inches. Everyone wins.

"Maybe it's too difficult for her to learn how to comb or put in a pony tail or what ever now, but she will learn and in the meantime, that's what parents are for."

And there's my point again. Thanks for doing my job! Jon has SAID he can't do their hair, so he's out. Kate has SAID she doesn't get up with the kids, so she's out too. WHO WILL DO HER HAIR??? If an adult would step up and do it great, but thus far no one has. Oh yeah except for the nanny.

I'm pretty sure that if Kate "stepped in" and personally brushed Hannah's hair, you'd have something to say about that as well."

When Kate actually gets up and takes care of her own children's needs I will comment.

Ilovemykids said...

It's truly gotten frightening around here.

But, yet here you are taking the time to read and post. If you are so "frightened", well, then why do you come to this blog?

Anonymous said...

Furthermore, 4 year olds do not get sarcasm like this and likely had no clue what his father was saying, only that it seemed he had a negative opinion of him agreeing to sit with mom. Yes, he smiled at Jon. But he is 4 and also not used to getting much positive attention. He probably liked all the conversations his parents were having with him while they filmed those phony scenes. It would be a joke you tell a teenager though, not a young kid.
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I think it would be unfortunate if every parent waited until a kid was in his or her teenage years before they joked around with them.

Also, I strongly disagree with the comment that Joel was only smiling because he didn't understand what his dad was saying and just liked the attention. My dad uses sarcasm like that around my four-year-old nephew all the time, and my nephew frequently says, "Grampa, you're just being silly!" or some variation thereof. He gets it. Joel gets it. I think you're doing four-year-olds everywhere a great disservice if you underestimate their intelligence in such a way.

Lastly, isn't it called transference when you project your own feelings onto someone else? Just because you would be offended if you were jokingly called a traitor does not mean you can insist that Joel must feel the same way despite all evidence to the contrary. I saw a four-year-old who got the sarcasm, enjoyed it, and relished the conversation with his daddy. I did not see a hurt, insulted, or oblivious child.

Anonymous said...

Neglecting her hair, and for that matter Cara's nails, is not abuse by any means. But it's tacky parenting, lazy parenting. It's not teaching children proper hygeine which is a parent's job. When you don't teach it you can bet your bottom dollar you'll have a smelly nasty teenager whom all the kids make fun of at school in a few years' time. Every school has a kid like this whose parents you can bet thought their bad hygeine was "cute" when they were four, too.
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I'm sorry, but have you every seen Hannah's hair and Cara's nails? They're impeccably clean and shiny. When Kate said that Cara could be a hand model, she wasn't kidding. The nails were gorgeous. Hannah's hair is sleek and always clean.

Having long nails or long hair does not mean poor hygiene. Length does not dictate that. Someone could have lousy hygiene with a buzz cut and nails clipped down to their skin. Hygiene is cleanliness.

Until I see Cara's nails looking dirty, ragged, and with gobs of black stuff under them, I am not buying the argument that long nails are not sanitary.

Until I see Hannah's hair greasy, uneven, and full of split ends, I am not buying the argument that long hair is not sanitary.

With all due respect, it's a huge, unreasonable, inexplicable jump to predict that because Hannah cannot brush her (clean!) hair at four and because Cara likes having (clean!) long nails at eight, that years down the road they are going to be dirty, smelly teenagers who are mocked by their peers.

sean said...

Boy Machine Gun Mom are you hateful.

Did someone force you to get married so young?

You seem to take delight in a child getting burned.

I am no fan of J&K but you take the cake.

You are the one their supporters talk about, the ones who they say are jealous.

You most certainly are.

Eleanor Roosevelt said" It is useless in life to be resentful of anything", maybe you can learn from that.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think Jon & Kate are funny and entertaining and I'm sure if anyone was offered a free trip they would take it.

J & K have exploited their 8 minor children well beyond that of being the recipients of 'a free vacation'. I might very well accept a free trip if offered, however, if the terms and conditions of said trip was at the expense of exploiting my children, No thanks. But, Im sure there is a J & K wanna be out there that is ready and willing to take the offer.