Prep for Hawaii- Oct 27

Jon and Kate and all eight kids are off to see the beauty of Hawaii- a perk of the "family job". Kate stresses during the packing process and she takes advantage of even more publicity by choosing a ridiculous dress for her renewal of vows ceremony.

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Anonymous said...

Hi all-

In preparation for tonight's episode (which I will not watch, I will wait for the recap), I want to repost the response I received from the Grand Wailea Hotel:
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Aloha ,

Thank you for sharing your concerns. We always welcome the feedback of our guests. I would like for you to know it was us, the Grand Wailea, who invited the Gosselin kids to stay at our resort so they can have a wonderful vacation, experience the beauty of Maui and the fun activity pools and slides other kids that have visited our property thoroughly enjoy. Our team members have met the Gosselin kids. They are great kids who deserved to have a fun vacation.
Also, to inform you, the Grand Wailea did not fully host the Gosselins. We did not host the family’s airfares, transportation and activities around the island.

Thank you again for your note. I will look at the website that you have recommended.

Christina, Director Public Relations and Marketing

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I couldn't remember when I first posted this, so I did a Google search. This blurb was actually posted to another pro-G website and the person who posted it referred to me as a "nutjob", which I find amusing.

I am an educated mom of 2, come from a nice family , born and raised in the midwest, and consider myself totally and almost boringly (is that a word, Kate?) normal.

It never ceases to amaze me how the pro-G fans can't/won't see Kate for who she really is, but call someone like ME a nutjob.

Anyway, I hope after the episode airs that the GW will be FLOODED with emails (remember to be polite!).

meowmeow said...

OK, Kate, we get you read this blog, since the first 10 minutes of the show tonight was all about fussing over Joel.

Kristine said...

Sorry, but I'm offended by the line in the original post that says it's a "ridiculous dress". I was married in July of this year and wore a similar dress, although mine was champagne in color. If you feel the dress is ridiculous because it is too revealing- well, I'm a woman of 45 and I wore it! I felt beautiful, my husband said I was beautiful. Thank you for offending me and others who have picked something they loved.

Anonymous said...

Damage control - yes Kate show the world how you love Joel. Gag.

Anonymous said...

Sounded like she was 'invited' to the store. Therefore I don't think she paid for the dress.

But for Pete's sake, giving your kids a pedicure? My kids are in their 20's and they'd never let me give them a pedicure now or back when.

Abenteuer said...

kristine said: "Sorry, but I'm offended by the line in the original post that says it's a "ridiculous dress"...If you feel the dress is ridiculous because it is too revealing- well, I'm a woman of 45 and I wore it!"

I'm sorry you're offended about something I wrote about Kate Gosselin and her dress. However, I did not say that it was ridiculous because of her age or how much it revealed. I could have easily said the ceremony was ridiculous as well.

Anonymous said...

Kate is making fun of Mady because she is most likely crying in pain from her pedicure.

Anonymous said...

Of course Kate didn't pay for the wedding dress! They don't pay for anything. I'm sure Jon didn't pay for his wedding clothes and we know they never pay for the kids' clothes.

Kate must go to the spa on a regular basis since she told Madi that she found out kids can go when they are 13 and she gets "bags of pedicure" supplies when she goes. How nice for her. And how nice that they can have this wonderful renewal of vows in Hawaii when they were so deprived when they had their first wedding and they had to have it in Pa. How selfish can you be??

Anonymous said...

Poor Jon! He had to get up at 4 in the morning to get ready for his free trip to Hawaii.

Anonymous said...

one of the kids just threw away a diaper...I thought they were potty trained

tripletsmom said...

Someone from a pro-G website called you a "nutjob"? Let's remember "It Takes One To Know One". Don't you know that the people on the pro-G website drink the "Kate Kool-aid"? One of these days they will come out of their coma and realize Kate for what she really is. All of a sudden Kate is fussing over Joel. Excuse me while I go throw-up. It's to late for damage control Kate.

Anonymous said...

How about the spat of who Joel wanted to sit with? Of course Joel has always wanted to sit next to Jon and not Kate.

chrissy said...

Notice one of the kids asked if the bus was allowed to be on the driveway.... apparently cars must have permission to enter the KonPound.

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding?! A bus to the airport, they are only ten people. I would think the 15 passenger van would still suffice.

Chris said...

Wait...Aaden is still wearing diapers?

tmc said...

I think Kate’s attitude and sunny disposition was, well….. FAKE!!!!

It’s obvious that they are reading these posts, because she was all over Joel. Never have I seen Kate give Joel so much attention. He was so cute thought when he and Jon were talking about who he was going to sit next to on the plane.

Does anyone else think Kate has had some Botox? Her farhead doesn’t move and she looks good (I hate to say that).

Anonymous said...

Jon says that Valentines day is a marketing ploy. I think they are a marketing ploy.

Lonnyswife said...

And the new words of the week are:

Pleaty~as in "The dress was pleaty."

Hangy~as in "The dress was hangy."

*note*~Pleaty & Hangy maybe combined in a sentence

Lanterning~as in "What were you lanterning?"

IrishNYC said...

Wow those kids "deserve" a trip to Hawaii? Well I do too, dammit! Who's going to host me?

Anonymous said...

Kate:"I had these tshirts made"

Yeah sure you did.

Anonymous said...

"...apparently cars must have permission to enter the KonPound."
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KonPound. I love that!!!!

Anonymous said...

jon being a total diva throwing the shirt into the kitchen.

TracyH said...

I thought I was the only one in the world who couldn't stand this show - thank goodness I found this site. I was worried I had a personality flaw of some sort.

My daughter is 9 and and only child and loves this show. In fact, she once said she'd never have children...now because of the Goesslins she wants "lots". I believe she thinks because people with a zillion kids have better lives than we do. I mean, in our family we have never been on a "real" vacation. Why won't that hotel in Hawaii call *us* and invite us to their resort. I mean my daughter deserves a good vacation! She's never been on one in her life. We aren't given things because i work my ass off all day to help keep our small household afloat. I would have popped out 3/4 a dozen I could have CASHED IN and not only been paid for "showing people what we are about" [good grief how egotistical that she believe she needs a series to show the world how special she is] I would have been offered free trips so that my children could have a nice vacation. I could have had a personal shopper chose a wedding dress for me instead of those jeans I wore at my wedding.

Why do they allow their children to be on display? What sort of mother would want NO PRIVACY for their children? What sort of mother would put her childrens flaws on display like that show manages to do (I mean Mady can't be as bratty as the editor's make her out to be, can she? She's just a child though and doesn't deserve to have millions of people calling her a brat all over the internet and on television).

I am disgusted by the cash they are earning, the givaways and the exploitation of the kids. I don't think that people who chose to have multiples should get a prize.

Ravello said...

Damage Control out in full force. KONS fighting over Joel. He is the sweetest little fellow but give me a break. If the cameras were not rolling would they be speaking these lines? It sounded so scripted. BTW, Joel is my favorite tup, what a cutie.

Anonymous said...

But for Pete's sake, giving your kids a pedicure? My kids are in their 20's and they'd never let me give them a pedicure now or back when.
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Plenty of mothers and children enjoy giving and getting pedicures. Just because it is not something you would personally do does not mean it is a bad thing to do with your children.

My sister-in-law gives my niece pedicures all the time, and at an AVON party while she was giving pedicures to all her friends, my nephew even asked to have his feet soaked, massaged, and scrubbed. Pedicures can be really enjoyable things for kids and adults alike.

Liz said...

I have 2 really great kids. Do they qualify for the free vacation to Hawaii?

Also, thank goodness they have their own wedding party because no one else would come.

C said...

"This was the trip...it appeared. The Grand Wailea asked us and you don't have to ask us twice! We were there!"

Yep Kate we already got that about you. Freebies is sooo you're thing because, you know, you 2 scams don't have to be asked twice!

Aubrey said...

Just a few question to try to understand everyone's point of view. Why does everyone come to the consensus that they don't love their kids or show them enough love? And why does everyone keep talking about damage control? How do all the critiques on their everyday lives contribute to the "advocacy" premice behind this blog? I just wondered why everyone came to their conclusions.

Anonymous said...

Of course she didn't pay for the dress. She doesn't pay for anything. In Go$$elin code "invited" means "our production crew/PR firm/network set it up for us" OR "the company was looking for free advertising.

xsandlapper said...

5 KON free weeks and counting here!

Chris said...

Lonnyswife said...
And the new words of the week are:

Pleaty~as in "The dress was pleaty."

Hangy~as in "The dress was hangy."

*note*~Pleaty & Hangy maybe combined in a sentence

Lanterning~as in "What were you lanterning?"

10/27/2008 6:35 PM


Oh you forgot "STUFFILY" when describing her vows and how she thought only old people renewed them. She's such a joke.

Anonymous said...

All of a sudden Kate is fussing over Joel. Excuse me while I go throw-up. It's to late for damage control Kate.

Oh Nooooo!! Don't throw up on the comforter!!!
Ugh.....off to the laundry room floor with you!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else think Kate has had some Botox? Her farhead doesn’t move and she looks good (I hate to say that).

I thought her face looked
puffy. Is it just me?

Why all the jewelry - on both of them? Was the necklace Jon wore Hawaiian?

Kinzer5 said...

The following is what my husband and I observed during this episode..
1. Tons of affection towards Joel.
2. One on one time from Kate with all the girls doing pedicures.
3. Semi-free trip to Hawaii, free wedding dress.
4. And the silent advertisement award of the evening goes to "Crocs". Did anyone notice that?

Anonymous said...

In reponse to the poster who responded to my pedicure post, it didn't look like the girls were enjoying it. And she, Kate, stated she didn't understand why not, because if she was young she would have loved to have had a pedicure. Some people do not like to have their feet messed with.

I am glad your niece enjoys them though. : )

Lolli said...

Kate looked pregnant tonight. Was that just me?

goldensglitter said...

Promises, promises Kate. Who are you trying to convince with the promise that we will be together forever as a family by renewing your vows? Yourself or Jon? The same old Kate always shines through, somehow, someway....no matter how much damage control.

sugar sugar said...

That whole fighting over Joel business was so staged. Jon and Kate aren't even smart enough to put a good spin on it.... or maybe the issue is with Figure 8--- or both. At any rate, I echo the other comments-- damage control!

Anonymous said...

Just a few question to try to understand everyone's point of view...

Watch the show long enough, understand where the income comes from and how they lie, then come ask the same questions.

Anonymous said...

"And the silent advertisement award of the evening goes to "Crocs". Did anyone notice that?"

That's funny. The Good Housekeeping article begins with describing the Crocs in the garage, and right away, I too wondered if the Crocs company had sent them a big truckload! I'm glad I'm not the only suspicious one.

Also, was it me, or did Kate (again) look very drugged out tonight?

Lastly, I also thought it was funny that Kate (who always claims to want her reality show to be so 'real' and address real issues) didn't address why Jodie wouldn't be helping them travel on this trip as she has done in the past. They have really gone from normal people to people I don't trust at all...

Anonymous said...

This is not a "semi-free" trip to Hawaii. Whatever the hotel didn't pick up, TLC paid for. You can be assured that Jon and Kate didn't part with one penny of their millions.

And Jon and Kate act like they "had to stop in San Diego" only so they could adjust to the time change. Give me a break. They did this so they could get more shows for TLC and collect more freebies along the way.

notakoolaiddrinker said...

Why does everyone come to the consensus that they don't love their kids or show them enough love?

I wouldn't go so far to say they don't love them - that would be like biting the hand (literally) that feeds them. I do think, they prefer certain kids over others. Specifically Kate shows more love, concern, etc for the girls than the boys.

And why does everyone keep talking about damage control?

Because things they do that are clearly not in their nature (ie being kind to Joel) is contrived and a response to something they have been criticized about.

How do all the critiques on their everyday lives contribute to the "advocacy" premice behind this blog?

More fuel to the fire, evidence if will for ending this sham of a show.

Lesa said...

Wait...Aaden is still wearing diapers?

I think it was a pull-up. My son is potty-trained but he sleeps to hard that he doesn't wake up to use the bathroom. So he wears pull-ups at night. I'm sure that's the case here too.

Anonymous said...

In reponse to the poster who responded to my pedicure post, it didn't look like the girls were enjoying it.
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Mady may not have been thrilled with it, but Leah seemed very happy with hers, and Cara liked the suds and wasn't complaining one bit.

One child expressing displeasure does not equal none of the girls enjoying it.

Anonymous said...

In reponse to the poster who responded to my pedicure post, it didn't look like the girls were enjoying it. And she, Kate, stated she didn't understand why not, because if she was young she would have loved to have had a pedicure. Some people do not like to have their feet messed with.

Kate doesn't give HERSELF pedicures - why would she think she is capable of giving someone else one? Damage control - IIRC Kate and girls were spotted getting massages and pedicures at the Grand Wia-Whatever - with "bodyguards" to boot.

Anonymous said...

This is no fault of the parents in not knowing this when this was probably filmed, but FYI, don't let your young children travel in Crocs.

There have been several injuries lately with kids wearing Crocs in airports specifically on escalators. Some of these injuries happened in the Atlanta airport.

Anonymous said...

Hi all ~ I agree with many posters. I immediately picked up on the "offer" from the Grand Wailea Hotel. Who are we to say "no". I found it interesting that not a word was mentioned about her "past" friend Beth and how she used to accompany them on trips. I also found it hurtful when Kate said that they wanted their 1st wedding to be in Hawaii but some family couldn't attend or wouldn't attend. What a shame that she just "digs" at her former loved ones. She is selfish, spoiled and self-centered. Shame on you Kate and your lazy husband.

Anonymous said...

But if a child gets injured someone else will pay for medical care. But then can't let anything bad happen to those little money makers.

Lonnyswife said...

I am surprised no one has mentioned hearing kate tell the twins: (paraphrasing)

"Know what I learned at the spa?"
"You can go when you are 13."

Which in my mind translates as
"I go to the spa on a regular basis and when you girls turn 13 you can go with me."

Anonymous said...

I haven't read all the other comments yet, so I'm sorry if this is a repeat, but when the kids were watching J&K's wedding video, it sounded like Joel said "I loved him" when she pointed out her father. How sad!!

Oh yeah, new word...stuffily!

Bicoastal said...

C said: "Yep Kate we already got that about you. Freebies is sooo you're thing because, you know, you 2 scams don't have to be asked twice!."

LOL! Ah, the hilarious snark of GWOP. With this crumbling economy, how can viewers watch these grifters and their kids soak it up in Hawaii and not be offended?

I'm sure the KON phony charity show is coming sometime soon. What a trite couple they are.

Anonymous said...

KonPound

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Made me laugh out loud !

Anonymous said...

At this point in this whole mess, I actually think that Kate was very sweet to Joel. Regardless of damage control, Joel appeared to be delighted by the attention.

It seems that Hannah has some tattletale tendencies. I hope she grows out of it.

jamie said...

My wife watches this show all the time and I try to avoid it. LOL She's shown me this site several times, but I haven't posted before. If what this site says is true, Jon, go find another woman. Dump Kate, you can do better.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is 9 and and only child and loves this show. In fact, she once said she'd never have children...now because of the Goesslins she wants "lots".
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And we were watching Dancing with the Stars tonight insted of Kon + 8 when my 17 yr old realized it was on the other channel. She commented that she hates that show and it made her never want to get married when she sees how horrible they are with each other.

Anonymous said...

tripletsmom -
thanks for the support =)

I did not watch or record the episode ( 4 weeks, woo hoo!)so I am reading comments made here.

Anonymous said...

One of the boys threw away what looked like a Goodnights or a Pull up. They are 4. Not all kids are nightime trained. Let's not bash the kid. My son had this problem till he was 7. Turned out he had sleep apnea and enlarged adenoids. After surgery, the nightime wetting stopped. Nightime wetting is very common is kids up till age 9 or 10. Focus on the parents here, not critisizing the kids.

Anonymous said...

My favorite damage control moment?

Kate: "Jon, be patient with them!"

Oh puhleeze. If the cameras were not rolling she would be screaming at the top of her lungs! Blegh.

Anonymous said...

Oh no, the potties are back!!! I saw three of them in the garage as everyone was leaving. I was hoping they were long gone as part of the recent damage control.

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

I believe that J&K love their children, but that doesn't mean that they aren't using them to provide the family with a lavish lifestyle in lieu of gainful employment for themselves.

There is no doubt that Hannah is favored over all the other kids. Jon and Kate also make a habit of saying negative things to the camera about Mady and Joel. They've also shown harsher treatment to Alexis by isolating her from her sisters by making her sleep in the basement.

elleroy said...

Poor Jon! He had to get up at 4 in the morning to get ready for his free trip to Hawaii.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I know - and Kate looked like she was suffering just thinking about it. Poor things.

And the pedicures.....
Don't get me started girlfriend....

Mommie Dearest (to Mady): "I'm going to rub. this. emery. board. awn. your. foot. real. hard. whether. you. like. it. or. not. young lady.
I didn't get pedicures at 8 years of age and it's for damn sure my 8 year old girls will not suffer and do without the way I did, whether you like it or not. So help me God. Yeah...GOD! HE has a plan for us girls! HE wants us to uh....go to the spa.....like all the time...starting when you're 13!!!"

Anonymous said...

"Stuffily" is a word, guys

notakoolaiddrinker said...

Focus on the parents here, not critisizing the kids.

I took this comment as a dig toward the parents - like they are so self-absorbed, they cannot help their children become toilet trained? From the past episodes, Kate did appear to be a bit laissez faired about toilet training. The girls apparently trained themselves - and Kate was a bit miffed that training the boys required effort. JMO.

SallySunshine said...

Okay, let me get this straight. Out of nowhere, the magical Grand Wileawhatever contacted KON to invite them to renew their vows at their magical fairy retreat. There was NO contact from your greedy self? Seriously? We're supposed to sippy cup your Kool-aid on this one KON? I'm sorry, we're not four year olds who believe your act. Stop trying to make everyone out there believe that you are just handed these opportunities out of the clear blue sky because you're you. Can't wait for the vows episode. Instead of kissing the bride, the minister will say "you may slap the groom". Selfish selfish woman!!! Shame!!!!

Anonymous said...

jamie said:

My wife watches this show all the time and I try to avoid it. LOL She's shown me this site several times, but I haven't posted before. If what this site says is true, Jon, go find another woman. Dump Kate, you can do better.

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I think it's very interesting to hear a husband's perspective, as I am assuming a majority of the posters on this site are female. Jamie, as long as you are not a Nielsen family, watch a couple more episodes - it would be great to hear your thoughts about Jon.

Maybe we could have a weekly post of 3F's recaps (sorry, 3F, if you weren't so darn brilliant with your writing, we wouldn't rely on you so much !!) and then sir Jamie's thoughts......

Anonymous said...

I don't think "stuffily" made any sense the way she used it-- so it goes in the KON lexiKON.

Anonymous said...

And the silent advertisement award of the evening goes to "Crocs". Did anyone notice that?
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It's safe to assume that ANYTHING that is openly filmed is somehow sponsoring the show or sending freebies. Any product that is not officially endorsing the show is blurred out ( ex Cascade dishwater detergent during the beach trip, and during the same epi, Kate talks about her amazingly complex and oh so original berries-in-the-shape-of-a-flag-on-top-of-sheet-cake recipe and then instead of saying Cool Whip, she said something like "the frozen whipped cream you have to thaw" or something to that extent)

As soon as I saw the Crocs on the Phillies epi, I knew that they had received a truckload of freebies.

NOBODY but KON gets a free ride from that show.

Molly said...

Anonymous said...
One of the boys threw away what looked like a Goodnights or a Pull up. They are 4. Not all kids are nightime trained. Let's not bash the kid. My son had this problem till he was 7. Turned out he had sleep apnea and enlarged adenoids. After surgery, the nightime wetting stopped. Nightime wetting is very common is kids up till age 9 or 10. Focus on the parents here, not critisizing the kids.

10/27/2008 7:34 PM

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Please. No one criticized Aaden. It was just a question asked. And obviously TLC wanted to create some snark about it or they wouldn't have bothered showing a scene that had absolutely nothing to do with the storyline.

dixietrixie said...

Watching this Hawaii episode tonight really emphasized what a joyless, unfulfilled woman Kate is. She says that when she thinks of their first beautiful wedding her mind always wonders what it would have been like to have had it in Hawaii (their original plan, so they say). So the geography just wasn't quite right on the first beautiful wedding; therefore, her memories are tainted with what should have been. Same thing with her "burning desire" to know what it's like to have a single baby. Instead of being fulfilled with her 8 beautiful, healthy, wonderful kids, she continues to feel like something is missing. I really do pity her for that.

Anonymous said...

I also agree that Jon and Kate do not let any product or piece of clothing appear on the show unless it is a freebie or they get some kind of monetary deal from the sponsor. Since Kate has been wearing so many clothes from Ann Taylor, I would bet anything that they are all completely free as well.

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed watching Kate give the girls pedicures because not only did it show bonding between her and her daughters but it also showed kindness (imho). I think that it would be awesome for the girls when they get older to say "when I was growing up my mom gave me pedicures" or "every Valentines Day my mom made heart shaped pancakes and sandwiches" or "every Christmas, my mom made cinnamon buns and hot chocolate". Those kind of memories stick with children throughout their lives.

The girls seemed to really enjoy the pedicures. Yes, Mady was cringing (I do too when I get pedicures) but it was obvious that she wanted to get it done because we all know Mady and she would have been having a fit if she was getting it done completely against her will.

I'm just wondering why Kate can't catch a break for anything she does. I mean she's hugging and kissing on Joel and it's called "damage control". Is she ever going to catch a break (even when she does change her actions/attitude)? When she is nice to Jon it is said she is medicated. I just think Kate is always in a lose lose situation.

Personally, I like the show and Jon and Kate. I definitely don't agree with everything they say and do but I think they are good parents. To be honest, if I had the opportunity to stay at home with my kids everyday and get free vacations I would do it!

Anonymous said...

I cannot stand Kate. I wish she would disappear from the airwaves, never to be seen again. I did, however, love to see her interacting with Joel. WE all know it's because of the comments about how she treats Joel, and they're doing damage control....but little Joel doesn't know that. Just to see his happy face as he was getting all that attention, was wonderful.

As I watched them all in the basement, laughing and being affectionate to their kids, I wished that was the norm for them.

armywife4life said...

Is it just me or is Kon trying to convey something with those snarky tee's..

NO WORRY BEEF CURRY huh?? With the Kon-Game in full force, Jon. I'm sure you "Don't worry about a thing u have everything under control."

At least for now!

Anonymous said...

It was so ridiculously fake the way Kate was in the basement with Joel, and even with the girls. The fake smile and the dialogue. Yeah like you're going to fight over Joel. I can't believe how plastic this woman is.

And the back and forth with Jon and Joel and Jon calling Joel a trader and confusing his feelings and possibly making him feel bad for not choosing his dad over his mom. Man these kids are going to have issues later on in life.

Anonymous said...

I wonder why Kate went cheap on the girls when SHE gets spas.

I feel sorry for her lack of family as she has to use her children as "the wedding party". Would have made a nice trip for her parents, Uncle Kevin....Jodi....

Anonymous said...

IrishNYC said...
Wow those kids "deserve" a trip to Hawaii? Well I do too, dammit! Who's going to host me?

10/27/2008 6:35 PM

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LMAO...SERIOUSLY!! Maybe we should all write back to whatever that resort is called and ask if they can sponser a trip for all of us. I'm sure we all work hard for our money and deserve a nice vacation.

What I don't get is that in previous episodes when KON has talked about their wedding they have called it the perfect day and have always talked about how nice it was. But now we hear that they always wanted the wedding to be in Hawaii and since they were being given a free vacation why not take it and let it go to waste?

What morons do they take us for?

Anonymous said...

Someone made the comment that they thought Joel said "I loved him" about Kate's dad on the wedding video but it was John's dad he was talking about. The kids called him "Poppy." It's sad all the same because he has passed away.

Bridget said...

Anon 7:59 p.m.

Well said! I enjoyed the mother/daughter moments. My daughter and I often have "spa day" and she loves it. I really enjoy the shows where they spend time as a family at home.

Melissa said...

Kate's face looked Very puffy tonight.

notakoolaiddrinker said...

I'm just wondering why Kate can't catch a break for anything she does. I mean she's hugging and kissing on Joel and it's called "damage control". Is she ever going to catch a break (even when she does change her actions/attitude)? When she is nice to Jon it is said she is medicated. I just think Kate is always in a lose lose situation.

Honestly? Because lately Kate has been shown doing things that are not in her nature. Proof? Every episode before. I would never say I hate Kate - I like to make fun of her, because she provides such great reasons to. I have read though, she says in her book, "that she took a gamble and lost." That to me, is such a slap in the face to her children, to anyone with children and to anyone who will never be able to have children. For those who say Kate doesn't "deserve" the negative things said about her, I say "Kate deserves EVERY negative thing said about her." JMO

dixietrixie said...

Anon said: I'm just wondering why Kate can't catch a break for anything she does. I mean she's hugging and kissing on Joel and it's called "damage control". Is she ever going to catch a break (even when she does change her actions/attitude)?
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Even Jon called her out on her affection for Joel. She was buttering him up so that he would choose her to sit next to on the plane. He's a good traveler and that would make things easier for Kate.

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for her lack of family as she has to use her children as "the wedding party". Would have made a nice trip for her parents, Uncle Kevin....Jodi....

I know what about Jon's Mom who IS from Hawaii or the relatives he has that supposedly still live there?

Anonymous said...

Ok this is my first time ever posting. I have been reading this blog for a while and I still watch John and Kate because I love those kids. I have never been more disgusted with Kate than I have tonight. Kate has made it quite clear how grossed out she is by her sons. It was always rare to see Kate show any affection to them. Well tonight with Joel I felt so sad because I know her little scene with Joel was for show rather than because she loved him and truly wanted to cuddle and how affection to him. It just seems so shady. A few weeks ago when they went to the doctor and this week her fighting to have Joel sit next to her on the plane. He is going to grow up and watch these episodes and see how truly horrible his mother acted towards him.

Anonymous said...

What gets me, is that they don't want to sit next to any certain kid to spend extra special time with them,it's because they are quiet. Everything is backwards parenting with this family, no grass stains, but hit and jump on benches, it's as if they worry about things for all the wrong reasons.

London Fog said...

Cudos to whoever came up with the word KONpound. Strike the word McMansion-insert the word KONPOUND.

Anonymous said...

I'm just wondering why Kate can't catch a break for anything she does. I mean she's hugging and kissing on Joel and it's called "damage control". Is she ever going to catch a break (even when she does change her actions/attitude)? When she is nice to Jon it is said she is medicated. I just think Kate is always in a lose lose situation.
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I didn't even watch the epi (and don't plan to) and I can answer this one:

In the example you gave about Kate hugging and kissing Joel, that is being labeled damage control because she has SO RARELY shown any affection towards him . As a matter of fact, Kate, and sometimes Jon, have gone out of their way to be quite nasty to him. Kate is showing "affection" towards Joel only as a result of reading the critical comments made about her .

I could give you so many examples of recent attempts at damage control, but it's kinda late and I am EXHAUSTED. I also have a feeling mine won't be the first response to your post. Good night and good luck.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the kids "deserve" a trip to Hawaii so magically the whole family gets a free trip. Just wait. Next the kids will "deserve" a trip to Europe. Didn't Kate remark in some interview how they hoped some day to be able do "something" that Jon did when he was 19 and at 19 he went to Europe? It's coming. I'm sure they all "deserve" the new mansion that is being built for them and then they will "deserve" some new cars that will magically be given to them too.

Anonymous said...

I noticed they really get uptight about people in the driveway, and it also seems really weird about how they have to keep reassuring the kids they are going to stay together. I don't ever remember having this discussion with my now grown kids and hubby. Doesn't that seem odd? I think Kate is putting her fears on the kids.

michelle said...

Although I do not like or approve of the exploitation of the kids, I must say that all the children are adorable and precious.

I did like the dress that Kate purchased, although I feel she and Jon should have paid for the "gown", clothes, trip and "second wedding" themselves from Jon's own job that he should have!

If Jon and Kate read these blogs, I would like to tell Jon that while you have no job, you should be doing something that would only be improving yourself and benefit your family and that would be to go to college and earn a high degree and then get a job and then you, alone, can support your family. There are a lot of colleges online. I am enrolled in college online.
Kate can remain being a stay at home mom, if she decides not to return to nursing.

Jon says that he would go to the ends of the earth for his children. Well, Jon, get a job, go back to school and get an even better job and support your family. Stop living off your tuplets and twins. Bring in your own income for the family. Because the kids will grow up and this show will not be on the air for much longer and you need to step up to the plate.

Grand Wailea may not have paid for everything, but I bet TLC did. I highly doubt that Jon and Kate paid for a thing.

tripletsmom said...

sallysunshine,

"YOU MAY SLAP THE GROOM". That is tooooo funny for words. For some reason Kate can't keep her hands to herself. Then she goes and tells the kids that they shouldn't hit each other. Just another example of crazy Kate.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or is Kon trying to convey something with those snarky tee's..
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Speaking of snarky tee's;

I was flipping channels during the rain delay of the World Series, came across a rerun of Valentine's Day ( I have never seen this episode). Anyway, apparently KON "had these shirts made" - tee shirts that said I Heart Kate/Jon. Jon was mad his didn't fit and threw it on the floor in the hallway.

Now, I am betting money that those shirts were made FOR them as a gift ( Em Tanner, maybe?), even though KON make it seem like they bought them .

2 questions:

1) if they were made for KON as gifts, how RUDE of Jon to just toss it on the floor in a big huff because it didn't fit

2) if KON bought them, shouldn't Jon know his own size ?

Anonymous said...

LMAO...SERIOUSLY!! Maybe we should all write back to whatever that resort is called and ask if they can sponser a trip for all of us. I'm sure we all work hard for our money and deserve a nice vacation.
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Grand Wailea, Maui HI
Christina (can't remember her last name) is the Director of PR and Marketing . See the first post of this thread.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I'm just wondering why Kate can't catch a break for anything she does. I mean she's hugging and kissing on Joel and it's called "damage control". Is she ever going to catch a break (even when she does change her actions/attitude)? When she is nice to Jon it is said she is medicated. I just think Kate is always in a lose lose situation.

Personally, I like the show and Jon and Kate. I definitely don't agree with everything they say and do but I think they are good parents. To be honest, if I had the opportunity to stay at home with my kids everyday and get free vacations I would do it!

10/27/2008 7:59 PM
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I agree 100% !!!

You get what you ask for but then you complain about that ?

I don't remember what episode it was but Kate said something like no one know but us and god how we feel about each other. That is so true !!

Person said...

I was absolutely mortified to see that Jon & Kate Plus 8 now have DVDs of their 'seasons'. I feel so bad for those kids.

To me that would be like making my home videos of my kids into DVDs and selling them to people. Ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

To be honest, if I had the opportunity to stay at home with my kids everyday and get free vacations I would do it!

Really? At the expense of your Children's Privacy? You know what "Paid" for the Hawaiian Vacation? The shot of Aaden throwing his pull up away.

Anonymous said...

If Jon and Kate read these blogs, I would like to tell Jon that while you have no job, you should be doing something that would only be improving yourself and benefit your family and that would be to go to college and earn a high degree and then get a job and then you, alone, can support your family. There are a lot of colleges online. I am enrolled in college online.
Kate can remain being a stay at home mom, if she decides not to return to nursing.
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Actually, the better scenario would be for KATE to go back to work. Jon could be the SAHD. He does everything for the kids (aside from exploiting them), the kids prefer him , and everyone would be better off if Kate were not home for most of the day(well, that is, except the people that would have to work with Kate).

that girl said...

Well, I am happy that at least we are making an impact and she showed our Joely some love. He looked so happy that they were "fighting" over him. I am willing to wipe the slate clean for now...oh dang, she just corrected Jon about the girls hair being fixed, not brushed... oh wel she is still okay for know...oh darn she just said she is tired just thinking back on the 4am wake-up in which she did nothing but stand around..well hell(oooh) I tried.

Nat said...

" I think that it would be awesome for the girls when they get older to say "when I was growing up my mom gave me pedicures" or "every Valentines Day my mom made heart shaped pancakes and sandwiches" or "every Christmas, my mom made cinnamon buns and hot chocolate". Those kind of memories stick with children throughout their lives.
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OR... remember when it was our 4th birthday and our mom dragged us 80 miles to this bakery and made us decorate our own birthday cupcakes but wouldn't let us eat them.

YUP... racking up those wonderful memories for the kids...

that girl said...

I wonder while Kate is in Hawaii if she will be screaming,
"Aloooha!!!".

On Pointe said...

No worry beef curry

Nat said...

"I wonder while Kate is in Hawaii if she will be screaming,
"Aloooha!!!"."

HAHAHA... good one!

ALOOOHA JON... quit admiring your physique...

Anonymous said...

The line-up of Little People Big World, Kon plus 8, and 17 Kids and Counting remind me of an Oreo cookie; Kon are just the fluff in the middle.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a Kon fan, and I realize that there is a great deal of damage control going on...but come on, at least there are changes being made! Yes, Kon is not initiating the better behavior...they are obviously being told how to act for publicity purposes...but at least it's a small step in the right direction. Maybe (hopefully) someday Kon will get the big picture and want to change their behavior for themselves and, most importantly, for the kids. But until then, at least someone (producer or not) is taking some kind of control over the situation, even if it is for damage control. It's unfair to rip them apart for every little thing (I know it's hard not to!) - how can we expect them to turn around with constant criticism? They have used very poor judgment, but they are not monsters and there is good in them - if they truly want to change someday, they can and will. I'm not one to stick up for them, but like someone else said, it's a lose lose situation.

I have to admit, I actually enjoyed parts of tonight's episode. If things were always like this, I might actually like the show!

Anonymous said...

Oh this poor, poor family....It makes families like this that bring a tear to my eye. Not only did Jon have to get up at 4 in the morning to prepare for their free trip to Hawaii, but they had to stop in San Diego so the kids weren't so jet-lagged. What's next, is TLC going to make this family pay for their own souvenirs? Boy, I hope not!

that girl said...

I enjoyed watching Kate give the girls pedicures because not only did it show bonding between her and her daughters but it also showed kindness (imho). I think that it would be awesome for the girls when they get older to say "when I was growing up my mom gave me pedicures" or "every Valentines Day my mom made heart shaped pancakes and sandwiches" or "every Christmas, my mom made cinnamon buns and hot chocolate". Those kind of memories stick with children throughout their lives.
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Are your initials P.R.?

Anonymous said...

"Okay, let me get thistraight. Out of nowhere, the magical Grand Wileawhatever contacted KON to invite them to renew their vows at their magical fairy retreat."
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Actually, Kate said that the Grand Wileah contacted them to have them come stay and while they were there, they decided to renew their vows.

Let It Be, Let Them Be said...

To the first poster on this thread:

It was totally inappropriate for the p.r. director of the Wailea to make any sort of comment about potential or present guests. I´d add, too, that it was inappropriate for you to solicit such information from her about the Gosselins, but I haven´t seen your letter to the hotel, and I do want to be fair. Perhaps you simply registered a concern and didn't ask for corroboration of your own views of the family.

Anonymous said...

"You get what you ask for but then you complain about that ?;'

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I have said this more times than I can remember about this blog! I do love it here and read it nightly. However, if we are willing to sit around and complain about every little detail, I think we also have to be willing to accept change. Right now, they are darned if they do, darned it they dont. We lose our credibility when we see everything as negative. Sure, maybe Kate loving on Joel was damage control, but in the end, she was loving on Joel, and isnt that what we want?

Let It Be, Let Them Be said...

Before I moved away from Hawaii a couple of years ago, everyone was wearing Crocs. The shoes are perfect for the climate and for the activities that many people there indulge in.

Anonymous said...

" I think that it would be awesome for the girls when they get older to say "when I was growing up my mom gave me pedicures" or "every Valentines Day my mom made heart shaped pancakes and sandwiches" or "every Christmas, my mom made cinnamon buns and hot chocolate". Those kind of memories stick with children throughout their lives."


Seriously? Mady and Cara are not going to fondly remember pedicures that were given one time for the sake of a tv show. What they will remember is the dysfunction that their life it. They will rememeber Kate being a shrew and their father not standing up for them. The heart shaped pancakes for Valentine's Day? Again, made just for the sake of tv and probably with help from behind the scenes people as well. Kids are not naive, especially these two! They are not happy girls most of the time. Just because one person thinks pedicures are the best things on earth does not mean the Gosselin girls feel the same way.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the comments about toilet training and how it was linked to Kate being lazy, etc, this is one time she gets a pass from me. If every child in the bunch were ready, they would be using the toilet full time, especially since they have all their siblings to emulate. However, if your child p/t easily, be glad about it. So did my first. She was exactly 2. I bought a potty chair and from then on she was using it and diapers were done, even at night. Never used one again. My second was a boy and was 3 and a half when he finally trained fully. My third is a girl and is now 2 months over 3 and a half and in diapers day and night. She sporadically uses a potty. I ask constantly if she has to go. She will say no usually. I have tried using underwear for extended periods but she will just go in them. She does not care if they feel icky. Once in a while she will feel like using a potty and will even ask to go while we are out at a restaurant or store. But for now she is not ready and I am never, ever going punish or force her. I would say I don't care if that's how others choose to train their kids, but I do care. It bothers me when children are traumatized to toilet train. A lot. But people who have no frame of reference of having a preschool aged child who is not physically and/or mentally ready to give up diapers should not toss out comments about how it is supposedly shocking all 6 Gosselin kids may not be trained yet. We have no idea if they all are or not, by the way. That is right up there with the comments about how no 4 year olds should ever take naps.

Anonymous said...

This is actually from the rerun after this episode but I noticed that Kate said that she got Jon a 'popular coffee gift'. I guess Starbucks won't sponsor the show, or give Jon free coffee.

Anonymous said...

the pottie chairs were sold at a yard sale in september and the wedding was in august----the12th i think.

Anonymous said...

Anyone I've ever known to get a pedicure gets the unsanitizable tools to take home. My mom is a nail tech and according to state sanitation laws files and foot buffers cannot be sanitized, and therefore must either be thrown out or given to the customer. She usually packages up the file and buffer used along with a mini bottle of the polish used just incase of chips. So, that is probably what Kate was talking about when she mentioned her items from the spa. I for one always enjoyed spending time with my mom having girls beauty nights, it was a chance to bond.

nofreebiesimasingletonmom said...

No worry beef curry

Nonsense, just like this show.

As for "having your cake and eating it too", I just want to say that if Jon and Kate had not set a precedence on their "natural pattern of selfishness" - everything remotely "good" "caring" or "loving" would not be frowned upon or questioned. I think the viewers (at least this one) have become jaded. Nothing Kate or Jon do is "right" because it doesn't sit as "real" with the viewers - just "fake" to get the ratings (and not lose anymore viewers). Why do I still watch? I admit it, I am a sucker for those kids. At this age, there is no way to censor them and the things they say. In the same token, those tups are more than a source of amusement for me. I really hope this carnival ride ends soon so they can start being real kids. (Just my opinion of course).

Quinn said...

Let me say this to start...I would never be jealous of KON for the freebies they receive. I would never allow camera crews to follow around my children and make money off of them. However, the freebies in this episode were almost too much to take. This is such a scary time in our country, with the way the economy is going. Reality is that people are losing their homes, their jobs, their security. The Kon show is NOT reality. I have yet to have a Hawaiian resort call me and offer me a free vacation. I've never had a clothing company give me free wardrobes for my family. And I've never taken my family to an amusement park for free, etc etc. Still waiting for all that to happen. Yeah right. When I think of how my husband and I work our butts off and try to budget our money and live paycheck to paycheck, I ask myself...WHY AM I WATCHING THIS SHOW? It's annoying beyond belief. I cannot imagine for one second my husband not working and us living off of our cute little child. NO WAY! It's just insane to think of. I don't care if you have two sets of multiples. So what? Lots of people have multiples and they seem to do just fine without having to exploit their children. Oh I could just go on and on! I don't think I could stomach their San Diego trip next week. "Oh we just had to go there to get used to the time change...and rake in more freebies from Legoland and the Zoo" I'm hoping they did not go to SeaWorld because I'd like to go there and I probably won't if they took part in the Kon Show.

BTW I loved "kon pound" too-I nominate that for comment of the week.

michelle said...

All the trips and outings that the tups are going on will probably not even be remembered when they grow up.

How many actually remember anything under the age of five? Well, the tups will have their show, now on DVDs, to watch when they are older. Wonder what they will think watching the episodes through "adult eyes".

I feel that the camera should NOT have followed the boy tup (sorry, can't remember which one) throwing away his night pull-up.

I would say it was good that Joel got some much needed attention and affection. I just hope it happens when the cameras are off.

The "damage control" might be a good thing in that Kate is getting some "advise" in ways to change for the better. Some self improvement. Same with Jon.

I think Kate doing the pedicures for the girls was some very good quality time spent with the kids. It would be nice to see Kate spend some quality time with the boys.

Anonymous said...

The whole wedding "dream" makes me sad for them. Wouldn't we all like to have gotten married in paradise? Should it really matter? Some people actually consider having our loved ones attend our nuptuals a blessing, not a hinderance on the dream. I could have gotten married in a cave, and it still would have been the happiest day of my life. I was so glad that my friends and family came to share the day, but really - I only had eyes for my husband the moment I saw him when those doors opened and "here comes the bride" started. It was about sharing our love and committment to each other. Once again, they lost sight of what it all meant ...

Also - makes you wonder if it was foreshadowing - maybe their families couldn't help pay for an Hawaiian wedding, so they "caved" to the family to not have to shell out the dough themselves.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a Kon fan, and I realize that there is a great deal of damage control going on...but come on, at least there are changes being made! Yes, Kon is not initiating the better behavior...they are obviously being told how to act for publicity purposes...but at least it's a small step in the right direction.

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I totally get your point and at times it does feel like they are damned if they do and damned if they don't, but they still put a spin on this damage control to make it look like it was all their own ideas. They take credit for it and to make themselves look like they came up with this on their own. I'd like them to at least stop side stepping and come out with some truths.

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

I think it was fully unnecessary to show Aaden throwing away his pullup. Bed wetting is a PRIVATE matter.

How sad for him that his peeing habits are out there for the world to see.

As far as all the comments about how KON is at least making changes -- The are making superficial changes in an effort to quell those who are opposed to their blatant child exploitation. The attention Joel got in tonight's episode is rightfully his and his parent's shouldn't be congratulated for it.

The superficial changes we are seeing are nothing more than an effort to divert attention away from the fact that these children are working so their parents don't have to. They are dancing around the real issue and by talking about all their alleged "improvements" we are allowing them to do it. It's lipstick on a pig, folks.

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

Giving the girls pedicures in an effort to bond shouldn't hurt them. Little girls that age would just as much appreciate a quick clip and some polish. A full pedicure was done only to bolster Kate's ego and vanity.

Kristyn said...

You know what? Even if it IS damage control--if Kate is treating the kids more equally and acting happy and being hands-on with the kids, good for her. Maybe she's 'seen the light' and realizes that the way she treats some of the kids is wrong. I think it's unfair to write off everything as "damage control".

And, if Kate is medicated now as has been suggested on this blog and others, then she might have been depressed before which could explain some of her behavior.

I'm not a Kate fan by far, BUT I think any positive any interaction with the kids is a good thing.

jonswifeisahaole said...

Hehehe - commercial during the show - "Rogaine".

vipersue said...

I just think it is sad that TLC would choose to put the pics of Aaden throwing away his pull up into the episode this week. Can't the poor kid have some privacy. He's is preschool now and certainly some of the kids in his class see the show. Why did they need to show him throwing away the diaper. I hate to think of him being teased by his classmates. There is just no reason to show that scene IMO.

Armygurl said...

Why all the jewelry - on both of them? Was the necklace Jon wore Hawaiian?

Yes those beads around Jon's neck are called Kukui nut beads. It is a traditional lei necklace worn during ceremonies and very prevalent as an adornment by locals and tourists. I have lived here almost 4 yrs and they are very popular. They are rich in tradition and the Kukui nut oil is used in things such as lotions, body and food oils, and shampoos.

Momof3 said...

I wonder what movie they watched obn the plane ride over to hawaii? Maybe they asked for them to run'Jon and Kate plus 8 shows) anyways .. I went to Hawaii with my 3 children last year. All expenses paid. It was a Make-a Wish trip. I wish I could of been sent to Hawaii without having to have a ill child to get the trip. Thank you Make-A Whish, it was wonderful.

alana said...

I wasn't wearing my rose colored glasses watching the "all our excuses for going to Hawaii" episode tonight:

Mady and Cara were not exactly overjoyed to be having pedicures, IMO.

Cara kept waving her hands in front of her face as if to tell the camera person to butt out. The tiny smile on her face was more like the smirk/smile that a child gets when someone (behind the scenes) is coaching and coaxing them to PLEEZ smile...

Mady's whining and wiggling her legs was more like she was hating the camera person, enjoying the pedicure, and afraid her mother was going to hurt her; obviously she'd never had a mommy-pedicure before.

I'm certain all was forgiven when they got to the Grand Wailea, though. People spotted ALL the girls and Kate in the Salon on numerous occasions getting manicures AND pedicures! (See "Gosselin Sightings" on the sidebar column.)

Of all the ways to spend time with your kids in Hawaii - typical Kate prefers to be indoors getting pampered.

Anonymous said...

I haven't watched this episode yet, but I feel I must comment on the 'invitations' these two freeloaders claim they get.

My personal belief is that Jon sits in the closet and solicits these freebies. Why wouldn't these businesses bite? "Hi, we are the stars of the highest rated show on TLC. If you give us a complimentary stay at your resort/vacation house/etc., you will gets lots of free advertising. (or something like that). Catch my drift? These places aren't searching out KON, they're picking and choosing where they want to go.

Anonymous said...

It seems like there's an effort to marginalize Jenny the helper. She got a bit of screen time in the July 4th and prior episodes, then barely appeared in the GH shoot episode and maybe got a few more seconds of screen time in this episode. For a moment, I thought Jenny was going to shown only from the waist down. Come to think of it, I can't remember seeing her inside the airport shuttle.

Maybe Kate's trying to polish up her image before going on the Bonnie Hunt show.

Ava said...

As for the pedicures, I thinking paiting a kid's nails and trimming them are fine, but at their age, did they really need their heels scraped? Are their feet that rough that they need a pumice to smooth them down?
And goodness forbid that they get the house dirty from a pedicure, they have to do it outside. At least she didn't do it in the driveway.
I do notice them using the backyard more, thank goodness, like a normal person would.

Angela said...

I think Kate looked really different from the couch shots to the preping for the trip shots. She seriously looked quite bloated and dare I say pregannt on the couch, but really thin and good during the episode.

I think they were fighting over Joel only for the fact that he would be easy to fly with. Jon even said that Kate was buttering Joel up all week, so its not that she suddenly has affection for this little guy, its that it suits her needs for a relaxed flight where she doesn't have to take care of a 'demanding' kid. I don't think its so much damage control as a competition with Jon as to who is the laziest and unfortunately it took Kate smothering Joel with attention so he would sit with her. We'll have to see if this treatment goes on in future episodes, or is it just a one off

Ilovemykids said...

There have been several injuries lately with kids wearing Crocs in airports specifically on escalators. Some of these injuries happened in the Atlanta airport.

Six weeks and counting since I watched J&K!!

I live in suburban Atlanta and yes, there have been 3 episodes with Crocs and the escalators at the airport. The children were hurt very badly and there have been several lawsuits against the maker of Crocs. Maybe this was a way to get some good publicity.

Hopefull, the children were not allowed to wear them to the airport.

Anonymous said...

that girl said...
I enjoyed watching Kate give the girls pedicures because not only did it show bonding between her and her daughters but it also showed kindness (imho). I think that it would be awesome for the girls when they get older to say "when I was growing up my mom gave me pedicures" or "every Valentines Day my mom made heart shaped pancakes and sandwiches" or "every Christmas, my mom made cinnamon buns and hot chocolate". Those kind of memories stick with children throughout their lives.

Unfortunately for Mady & Cara, these special bonding moments and memories with their mother come with the intrusion of a camera and production crew. I am not begrudging Mady and Cara the 'memories' , I just find it rather sad that these 8 year old twins cannot experience the above mentioned moments without the presence of a camera and production crew.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I like the show and Jon and Kate. I definitely don't agree with everything they say and do but I think they are good parents. To be honest, if I had the opportunity to stay at home with my kids everyday and get free vacations I would do it!

If the terms and conditions of having the opportunity to stay home with your kids and get free vacations was at the expense of exploiting your children would you do it? That's how J & K 'do it' !

dixietrixie said...

Wonder what product was blurred when one of the girl tups opened the hair do drawer in the kitchen? That wonderful smelling tangle free spray must no longer be a sponsor...

And what was up with all those crocs and shoes IN THE HOUSE?? The kids seemed totally confused about that. When the twins came down stairs they picked up their sandals that were on the living room side table and started examining the bottom of them.

And before everyone gets too impressed with the new, damage controlled Kate, it looks like she is back to her old tricks next week from what was shown on the preview. It appears that there is some sort of incident on the plane - you hear Kate gasp loudly and several other (unfortunate) passengers are standing up looking toward the back of the plane. Then she gets all excited about one of the boy tups getting something on his clothing that will make him stink (looks like he was possibly feeding fish to a sea lion).

Any wagers on who Alexis ends up sitting next to on the plane? My money's on Jenny...

elleroy said...

I enjoyed watching Kate give the girls pedicures because not only did it show bonding between her and her daughters but it also showed kindness (imho). I think that it would be awesome for the girls when they get older to say "when I was growing up my mom gave me pedicures" or "every Valentines Day my mom made heart shaped pancakes and sandwiches" or "every Christmas, my mom made cinnamon buns and hot chocolate". Those kind of memories stick with children throughout their lives.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

yeah.....sigh.....(looking wistfully to the heavens)...
and then there are the other kinds of memories....
you know, the ones the boys will have...ahh yess...
golden memories of birthday cupcakes being withheld while being made to watch your sisters eat theirs, being made to lie on a cold floor in a dark laundry room when you're ill, having your mommy freak out over a little gum on your favorite snuggle toy and then threaten to throw it in the trash! Oh, I could go on, but why? These are memories to last a lifetime. Makes ya' kinda verklempt....

yankedoffshrewwatcher said...

Ok, so after last week's gross display of gluttony, I vowed not to watch this week's episode, knowing what was about to happen. I managed to hold down the puke for six minutes last night and couldn't take it any longer. Off went the television!

First, "No Worry Beef Curry" must be a new flavor of Hamburger Helper that the Nutless Wonder is subliminally advertising via the odd t-shirt! Wonder if its organic? Either way, more $$$ for sitting on his rump.

What I found so telling in the six minutes of h-e-double hockey sticks I endured was Shrew & Nutless Wonder's wedding video! Could two people look so uninterested and unloving to each other on their wedding day? Of course, that will all change in Hawaii for the camera!

Next, I have two nieces who "deserve" a trip to Hawaii and I will be writing to the Grand Whosey-whats-it to ask that they be giving some free accommodations!Anyone like to place a bet I don't hear from them?

All this from only six minutes. Imagine what I could write if I would have hung in there for the remainder of the episode?

Anonymous said...

I see it all perfectly now...

TLC Honchos (to Kate): if you start acting like a real mother and show some affection to Joel (albeit fake)we'll give you a first class, all-expense paid trip to HI

Kate (to TLC Honchos): O....K... Fine... But those people from GWoP can no longer say that I don't "work"

Anonymous said...

in Kon's defense, look at who their fans are? Their supporters apparently believe that Kate is some kind-hearted person who's easy to talk to. But as we know, the fact of this matter is that she wouldn't give any of them the time of day in a clock store!

BTW, I love KonPound, too!!

Anonymous said...

I predict that soon J&K+8 will be featuring a show where Kate has an outing with the boys exclusively. lol...now that would be an obvious display of damage control! Hey, at least they are jumping when told to do so. They will do anything for money. This will be their downfall after the show is done. Which everyday that passes, is drawing closer.

Anonymous said...

Re/ Jon's shirt on last nights episode...

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no worry (beef curry)

Definition: don't worry; don't sweat it; don't fret
Used In A Sentence: Eh, no worry beef curry. I get da buggah under control.
In English?: Don't worry about a thing. I have everything under control.

I found this on e-Hawaii.com site and is Pidgin English, spoken sometimes in Hawaii.

Just didn't want everyone to think that Jon was pimping/soliciting for the beef industry.

Anonymous said...

We lose our credibility when we see everything as negative. Sure, maybe Kate loving on Joel was damage control, but in the end, she was loving on Joel, and isnt that what we want?
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I agree 110%!
Has anyone also thought of the fact that they're probably under contract? So even if they were to be "cancelled" it probably couldn't be until the end of this season.

Anonymous said...

Sooo...I did a little recap in my head last night and went over their trips in the last year. They went to Disney at the end of last summer, so that's 1. Then they had the good fortune of being able to go skiing in Utah...that's 2. After that they took a long family vacation to a beach house in North Carolina for the 4th of July...that's 3. Finally we come full circle to the end of the summer and they're taking the grande finale of all trips, they're going to Hawaii! That's 4 very expensive, extravagant trips in the span 1 year with 8 kids. On two of those trips they had some poor "friend" schlepping around with them for damage control, and after that a nanny that they don't even pay.
How long is this going to go on?? I know families with two kids that are lucky to make it to the Jersey Shore once a year! Maybe it's jealousy, but I say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

Anonymous said...

Their first wedding was beautiful. They said so themselves ( before the hawaii offer) And why are they renewing vows sooo sooon into the marriage?? I have a few opinions.... could it be that this is a last stab in the back to their families? Re-creating everything that their families had a part in, whitout them ,as to say "your not in our lives at all"? Could it be a ploy to throw the viewing public off the trail off a very disfunctional marriage that may be falling apart as we speak? ( calling madonna/guy ritchie here) It is very sad. And although in my opinion the Joel, one on one time withthe girls, and contant assurance that they will in fact be to gether and are happy, are damage control. AT LEAST IT IS BEING DONE!! In my personal expierience.. my mom and i dont not get along, and she obviousely favors my brother. Well one time they were in a fight, and she took me out for a girls day... It never happend before, and it has never happend seince. HOWEVER, i still hold it special, regaurdless of her motives, i felt loved. I am hoping that the gosselin children will re-member that. Also... if i can touch on this subject..... I have wondered for a while why the KONS dont give back to other families of multiples? They never mention it, and Kate always says " there arnt anyone like us" which is statistically not the case. I have came to the opinion that Kate cant stand anything not being ABOUT her. (like the baseball game episode) In the beginning they promised to give back? I feel they needed help in the begining, no one goes into infertility treatments thinking this will happen, the odds are against you to even get pregnant. But they have turned this whole situation into a marketing ploy.. like a vaccume sucking the li$e out of every working collar man they come accross. I bet you the Morrisons in minnesota, who lost 5 of their 6 tups, and are still struggeling, would have loved this trip.....but that would be acknowledging that Kate was NOT the only women in the world to have infertility treatments......

Jim S said...

Whatever our feelings are about Kate, Jon and the kids...and I'm no fan of Kate...I'm more concerned with the fact that TLC seems to think that an hour of packing and pedicures is somehow fascinating. This episode was about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Anonymous said...

Haven't read all the posts..don't know if this has been mentioned already.....

The part where Kate tells the kids that mommy and daddy are getting married again and that means they will all be together forever, and the relieved look on Hannah's face when she said, "We will?"

It struck me as the kids are all aware of the rift with the extended family and that Kate basically no longer has extended family because of fighting, and perhaps they were worried they would grow up and the same thing rifts and separations would occur. Hannah seemed very relieved to hear they would be together forever. Perhaps, too, she was worried mommy and daddy fight too much and not be able to hold the family together.

kelly s said...

I still do not understand the comment that Kate makes about "we were supposed to get married in Hawaii the first time"

To me that means that they actually had it paid for it, etc. then had to cancel. Supposed to does not mean "we cant afford it". Why cant they just be honest and say that. I got married at 23 and back then I would not have been able to afford it. Still now at 32, I still couldnt. Weddings are expensive in itself despite the location. She gave their family as an excuse for not going to Hawaii the first time. Nice, I see we are back to blaming parents for things.

Also, when kate was giving mady her pedicure and kate said "if my mom gave me a pedicure i would have sat for 4 hours if i had to". I am surprised mady didnt say anything as far as "how come we dont see them" or better yet "Who is your mother, because we never see them"

Anonymous said...

He was probably throwing a diaper away because he wears them only at night. Some children pick up on potty training terrifically during the day but still need to wear a pull up/diaper at night.

Anonymous said...

I used to love this show, when it was about an average/not average family. I have to admit that in the beginning of the show I was TOTALLY jealous of the now greedy Gosselins because their families seemed so involved. I have only one sister and we aren't very close and I remember the episode where Kate's brother came to help with the shelves (I think) in the garage and he and Jon seemed to be having fun. In the beginning, they had so many people supporting them and they all seemed to really have fun and get along and be close-that looked so nice. (especially to me, whose family hasn't been very involved with my kids).
Now, they only have things and i have nothing to be jealous about (yay).

Anonymous said...

In response : "Whatever our feelings are about Kate, Jon and the kids...and I'm no fan of Kate...I'm more concerned with the fact that TLC seems to think that an hour of packing and pedicures is somehow fascinating. This episode was about as exciting as watching paint dry."

I agree 100%. Not to mention past episodes that have featured full narration on how carpet is installed, intro on the basics of golf, the art of hair transplant surgery, how to assemble bunk beds, and the numerous and continued episodes featuring the packing and unpacking of a vehicle.
Seriosuly, I would bet my daily Starbucks that some time in the very near future, TLC will entice viewers with the episode description 'Watch as the Gosselin family patiently wait for the paint to dry in their new home'.

Anonymous said...

On the ski trip to Utah episode Kate said to Jon that their next trip would be to Hawaii to renew their wedding vows, remember?

I don't enjoy the show at all anymore without Jodi and Beth. It's been said that Kate had to "dispose" of them in an effort to make herself look good. "Poor Jenny" took their place. Yes, why doesn't Kate explain what happened to them? We viewers wanna know. Are the rumors true? I think it's pretty rotten for her to take two of the most loving and caring women out of the children's life without even a mention as to why. Everyone could see how much both women loved the children unconditionally. I'm sure the grandparents were equally as loving, yet, they were disposed of as well. So pathetic. Only a money hungry monster would behave in such an evil manner, IMO.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what goes on behind the scenes that makes Kate have to keep reassuring the kids that they will stay together forever! I can only imagine!

Watch for Joel putting his pull up in the trash to be edited out now in the reruns.

Anonymous said...

"We lose our credibility when we see everything as negative. Sure, maybe Kate loving on Joel was damage control, but in the end, she was loving on Joel, and isnt that what we want?"

I disagree. Everything about this show and couple is negative. How is the credibility lost to admit the truth? Would you rather everyone lie? No, FAKING things and pretending so they can keep raking in freebies is not what we want. You may be fooled by and enjoy their acting, but I guess not everyone feels the same. Fake is fake. You can't cover over the mud with frosting and pretend it's a cake.

Anonymous said...

kelly s said...
I still do not understand the comment that Kate makes about "we were supposed to get married in Hawaii the first time"

To me that means that they actually had it paid for it, etc. then had to cancel. Supposed to does not mean "we cant afford it". Why cant they just be honest and say that. I got married at 23 and back then I would not have been able to afford it. Still now at 32, I still couldnt. Weddings are expensive in itself despite the location. She gave their family as an excuse for not going to Hawaii the first time. Nice, I see we are back to blaming parents for things.

I agree. In past episodes, J & K have discussed their wedding ceremony in detail. They comment on how they paid for it all, circumstances of where it took place, etc. Neither make mention of the fact that the wedding was SUPPOSED to originally take place in Hawaii and circumstances involving travel for family caused them to consider other options including the locality of the ceremony. Kate does say in these past episodes that if she WERE to do it again, she would LIKE for the ceremony to take place in a tropical location. I too, dont understand why all the justifying and blaming on family members, just be honest and say we wanted to renew our vows in Hawaii and were given the opportunity to do so. IMO, there are only two words befitting to describe Kate, PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Sasha222 said...

Wow I was going to comment last night after the show aired, but I figured commenting in the morning would be good enough....and look at the amount of posts so far! my god!

Now I am NOT a fan of Kate Gosselin (obvious), but if I didn't know better I would totally believe that Kate had like changed her ways in this episode. She is so freaking calm and sweet it's almost creepy (because it's shocking to see). I mean when she told Jon to be patient with the children when he clearly was about to lose it, I kinda lost my breath for a second.
But I have come to the conclusion that Kate is either A. doing damage control like most of you guys say. Or B. Is only really truly happy when she is getting something she really really wants!

But I'm sure she will have something to complain about with this wedding, since she made it perfectly clear that her first wedding wasn't good enough since it automatically reminds her of how it should have been in Hawaii. Ummm...hello? Kate? I got married in a teeny tiny little office in downtown Las Vegas with an infant on my lap and none of my family and friends to see it cause I had no money and was in a rush to have my husband's medical insurance. I'd be damn satisfied to have even gotten to wear a wedding dress. Kate's comment literally for the first time made my blood boil.

Anyway, I'm sure in future episodes to come we will see this new and improved Kate. I mean if the entire world was talking about how much of a wretched woman you were wouldn't you change too?

Oh and TLC- the 3 wonderful trips in a row (lego land, San Diego Zoo, and Hawaii) isn't going to make anyone feel easier when many complaints are about how these kids are constantly getting free trips (unlike most everyday children in this country) while their mother claims they are struggling to get by....

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see Jon's face when Kate was talking about being invited to that hotel in Hawaii and she said, "You don't have to ask us twice, we are there!"

Priceless.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, when this show stops, along with the freebies, Kate will still be a cold, distant mother. Maybe worse, since there will be know more hand outs. So, they will probably try the church begging route for a while, but eventually, the parents may have to go to work. Poor tups, they may be getting the message that they are burdens and without them the family may have had a better life, such as name brand clothes, trips, etc. Kate said in the beginning that she wanted them to have what a 'single' child would have. What happened to that? They are treated like a litter. No individuality at all. The future looks lonely.

Paula S said...

On the ski trip to Utah episode Kate said to Jon that their next trip would be to Hawaii to renew their wedding vows, remember?

No, she said to get remarried, she did not say renew their vows. I guess Kate doesn't have the intelligence to figure out that in order ot get remarried they would have had to have gotten divorced.

Anonymous said...

I hope Kon emptied that garbage can before they left for the trip, otherwise the house is going to be stinking to the high heavans when they get back with that diaper in there for 2 weeks.

Didn't Kevin make some comment on the hair transplant episode about how long that pee must have been sitting in the potty chairs because it stunk so bad? He was almost gagging.

HW said...

Anonymous (7:59 pm)-

It's interesting you wonder why Kate can't catch a break while in the same statement you type "We all know Mady would have been throwing a fit if the pedicure was against her will..." or something along those lines. So while chastising those who criticize Kate, you can't resist criticizing a child who behaves that way because of Jon and Kate's parenting.
Kate's an adult and should have more control over her behavior; Mady is a child and still needs much coaching and molding. Let's give the kids a break.

momof3 said...

I always thought people renewed their wedding when they have been married like 20 or more years. How long have those 2 fools been married. less than 10 years.?

Anonymous said...

let it be said:
To the first poster on this thread:

It was totally inappropriate for the p.r. director of the Wailea to make any sort of comment about potential or present guests. I´d add, too, that it was inappropriate for you to solicit such information from her about the Gosselins, but I haven´t seen your letter to the hotel, and I do want to be fair. Perhaps you simply registered a concern and didn't ask for corroboration of your own views of the family.

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I did not solicit ANY information from the GW about the Gosselin family. My letter to the GW was the same format as all of my other letters to GH, Regis, VTech, etc. I simply stated my disappointment with their very unwise choice to host the Gosselin family given all the controversy, etc, etc. I mentioned Paul Petersen's site (hence the reference at the end of the response).

The PR director actually gave me more info than I cared about , and I actually thought it was detrimental to the GW's case because it just sounded like pathetic justification for the GW to be on the episode and get some national exposure (as if they need any - geez, it's an overrated 5-star hotel - yes, I've stayed there).

I try to make a difference by writing letters/emails, but I am not a "nutjob" who is obsessed with this show or this family. I read these blogs, I comment , and then I go about my day. Now, I must go to the grocery store ....

Anonymous said...

As for "having your cake and eating it too", I just want to say that if Jon and Kate had not set a precedence on their "natural pattern of selfishness" - everything remotely "good" "caring" or "loving" would not be frowned upon or questioned. I think the viewers (at least this one) have become jaded. Nothing Kate or Jon do is "right" because it doesn't sit as "real" with the viewers - just "fake" to get the ratings (and not lose anymore viewers).

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I will admit that, in my eyes, KON can do nothing good except for canceling the show. Anything else is contrived . And, I do not watch the show, I just read the recap.

Anonymous said...

We lose our credibility when we see everything as negative. Sure, maybe Kate loving on Joel was damage control, but in the end, she was loving on Joel, and isnt that what we want?
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I agree 110%!
Has anyone also thought of the fact that they're probably under contract? So even if they were to be "cancelled" it probably couldn't be until the end of this season.

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Paul Petersen mentioned this on his site and even offered legal counsel if KON wanted to get out of their contracts.

Anonymous said...

Whatever our feelings are about Kate, Jon and the kids...and I'm no fan of Kate...I'm more concerned with the fact that TLC seems to think that an hour of packing and pedicures is somehow fascinating. This episode was about as exciting as watching paint dry.

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You WERE watching paint dry - the paint on everyone's nails =)

Anonymous said...

The part where Kate tells the kids that mommy and daddy are getting married again and that means they will all be together forever, and the relieved look on Hannah's face when she said, "We will?"
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Why does Kate constantly make comments such as this? I've heard her say " I hope you always love each other" " We will never leave each other", etc. I think it's so odd. She is obviously stressed about being alone, and the thing is, fast forward 15 years and that's exactly what's going to happen.

Baffled said...

Didn't the hotel in Hawaii say that they had NOT invited them?

I think that Figure 8 or TLC "invited" them. Good old production company -- what a sweetie!

Rosey in Washington said...

First of all I would like to state for the record that I am NOT NOT NOT a J&K supporter...I actually cannot stand them and I tell all my friends who watch the show about their scam so atleast I know I am doing my part to get the word out about the Gosselins exploitation of their children.

Anyway, does Kate hugging Joel and "ACTING" like she cares about him even matter in the big picture? I mean I KNOW its damage control and that makes me sick, but to be honest I don't even know why they are taking the time to do damage control.

I mean, from what I've heard, that new KonPound (LOVE the new word by the way, kudos!) that is being built for them is completely FOR the show. I've heard the location is where it is because it's closer to the Figure 8 studios, I've heard that "all the sponsers are on board" so the house will be fully furnished AND have a seperate entrance and kitchen for the film crew. Okay, so if all that stuff is true, wouldn't it also make sense that Jon and Kate are already guarenteed like 5 or 6 more seasons? Why would TLC/Figure 8/sponsors build them this HUGE house that caters to a family who is obviously in the media industry but then only sign them for 1 or 2 more seasons??

In my opinion, TLC/Figure 8 probably made them sign a VERY long contract in order for them to spend all that money to build that house for them. Just my opinion.

So, maybe Kate is trying to ACT like she cares, but in reality she doesn't care because she KNOWS that this "gravy train" that she is living on is not going to end any time soon.

Any ideas??

blm4mee said...

I turned to TLC looking for the Roloffs and KON was on the couch. Kate was saying, "Our kids have a great life and because of them we do too," Is it me or did she just openly admit to what has been said of them? That's awful. They have no shame about pimping out their kids so they don't have to go OUT and work. Oh and KON, if you or your handlers read this please remember, "Anyone who doesn't work shouldn't eat," I'm just saying. 2Th. 3:10 Put that on a shirt and wear it after you wear your "Is.40;31" shirt.

Lonnyswife said...

Jim S said...
Whatever our feelings are about Kate, Jon and the kids...and I'm no fan of Kate...I'm more concerned with the fact that TLC seems to think that an hour of packing and pedicures is somehow fascinating. This episode was about as exciting as watching paint dry.


Poor Jim S----
The show last night was only HALF an hour.
It's just the droning on that makes it seem like molasses in January!!!

lifeoriley said...

I didn't watch the whole episode, however, I did fip by it here and there. I figured it was going to be about packing and getting ready anyway--what else is new?
I was glad to see little Joel smiling when his parents were saying they wanted to sit with him on the plane. Even if it was damage control, I think it's good to have Joel feel special. However,I do agree with other comments that say it's all about what's easiest for the parents. The kids who are the MOST antsy or problematic or needy should sit with a parent--NOT a nanny--oops--"helper" .
I didn't see the pedicure segment, but if some of the girls wanted it done and some didn't--only the ones who wanted it should have it done. That's another problem with the show-- it's all for "show" and they are corralled/cajoled into doing things en masse for the cameras.
Also, this has been stated before, but during the "Utah" episode, Kate tells Jon as they're leaving to go home-- "We're going to Hawaii next time and we're renewing our vows." So I don't know how the trip came about--but it certainly didn't just "appear."

P. S. Kate--it's "sit with WHOM" not "who"--LOL

Amy said...

Regarding the diaper/pull up situation on Aidan: I have a 3 yr old who wets the bed at night so we keep him in diapers AT NIGHT ONLY. Maybe that is what's going on with Aidan.

Anonymous said...

We have a beauty school in our town and manicures and pedicures are fairly cheap. It is not unusual to go int on Saturday or even during the week in the summer and a group of 4 or 5, 8 to 10 year olds will be in there have manicures or pedicures as a birthday get together. They have a lot of fun. My daughter is 28 and lives about 4 hours away and one of the things we do together when she is home is get pedicures. My daughter loves it but she is extremely ticklish around her feet and she is usually squirming or holding her face to keep from laughing while they are fooling with her feet. Sometimes we just paint each others toenails at the house. It's always nice to have someone else do that for you. So, basically what I'm saying is I see nothing wrong with Kate and the girls doing this as long as it is for the right reason. Kate tends to appear that she has no patience and is always in a hurry to get a job done. I am reminded of one of the first shows when the tups were babies standing up in their cribs and she goes into their room in the morning and just starts grabing kids and changing diapers, it was all mechanical and not much love involved.

Lesa said...

I'm sure they couldn't afford to get married in Hawaii because during that time Jon was working low paying jobs. (According to their book.) He didn't start his job in IT until after the tups were born. I'm sure his parents paid for most everything. Perhaps Kates family couldn't afford to go.
Also in the book, she admits she favors Hannah because she was the first baby she got to hold.
Mady whines at EVERYTHING! She whined when they all got their hair braids, on whichever trip that was. The "little" girls sat just fine, but Mady couldn't handle it. I think she is just that way. It's a way for her to get attention. She's always talking about the family of 4. I'm sure she misses being the center of their world.
And Hannah was probably excited to hear they would be staying together forever since most of the family and friends she has known since birth have disappeared. Kevin, Jodi, Nanna Janet, Nanny Joan, Beth... you get the idea.

Mommyof4 said...

I just found this website and I love it! I actually used to love the show, but since I've began reading this and the truth breeds hatred blog, I've began to see things in a different light. I do have one question though...have they mentioned on the show yet (i've missed the last new several episodes) that they are going to adopt internationally?

Anonymous said...

So the Grand Wailea states the Gosselins "deserved to have a fun vacation". What was their criteria in making this decision? I'm sure it had everything to do with TLC and more Gosselin freebies because the Dilley, Harris, and McCaughey families as well as many more are still waiting for their invitations. And no Kate, no one has to ask you twice! If it weren't for donations, freebies, and of course the income your children generate, you would just be a common welfare queen.

Jim S said...

Poor Jim S----
The show last night was only HALF an hour.
It's just the droning on that makes it seem like molasses in January!!!

You WERE watching paint dry - the paint on everyone's nails =)

Too funny!!! If there was an edit function here, I would have gone back and fixed it, but you mirror my thoughts. It's not like either the Gosselins or Duggars are doing that much out of the ordinary in their daily lives (trips and stuff excepted)...it's just the sheer novelty of ten and nineteen people doing it that's supposed to be the draw.

Hey TLC...the novelty's wearing off.

elleroy said...

It seems like there's an effort to marginalize Jenny the helper. She got a bit of screen time in the July 4th and prior episodes, then barely appeared in the GH shoot episode and maybe got a few more seconds of screen time in this episode. For a moment, I thought Jenny was going to shown only from the waist down. Come to think of it, I can't remember seeing her inside the airport shuttle.

Maybe Kate's trying to polish up her image before going on the Bonnie Hunt show.



I wonder if the reason they don't show Jenny much is that Kate doesn't want anyone "showing her up"
the way she felt Jodi did. On the July 4th episode, there were really nice moments with Jenny and the kids in stark contrast to strawberrygate. Many of us noticed how great she was with the kids. Maybe Kate stipulated that no one else be shown caring for the kids.

elleroy said...

always thought people renewed their wedding when they have been married like 20 or more years. How long have those 2 fools been married. less than 10 years.?


And didn't Kate say something to the effect of how renewal of vows is usually done by "old people" and that she thought that was "pathetic"?

A Mom-ynous said...

"There have been several injuries lately with kids wearing Crocs in airports specifically on escalators. Some of these injuries happened in the Atlanta airport.

Six weeks and counting since I watched J&K!!

I live in suburban Atlanta and yes, there have been 3 episodes with Crocs and the escalators at the airport. The children were hurt very badly and there have been several lawsuits against the maker of Crocs. Maybe this was a way to get some good publicity.

Hopefull, the children were not allowed to wear them to the airport."


I was thinking the same thing. Only I saw a story about it on Inside Edition just before our trip to Chicago last month. Before then, I hadn't heard anything.

So we did not travel with our crocs.

In Chicago, at American Girl Place, they actually had a warning posted by their escalator.

Crocs will also have warnings on the shoes or on the tags soon according to that story I saw.

But about the time J&K went on the trip, I hadn't even heard about it yet myself.

I don't fault their shoe choice due to possible lack of knowledge as I wouldn't have had a second thought if not for that news story.

But it did make me cringe remembering what the children's damaged feet looked like with their stitches in that story. :(

Anonymous said...

Sorry, but I'm offended by the line in the original post that says it's a "ridiculous dress". I was married in July of this year and wore a similar dress, although mine was champagne in color. If you feel the dress is ridiculous because it is too revealing- well, I'm a woman of 45 and I wore it! I felt beautiful, my husband said I was beautiful. Thank you for offending me and others who have picked something they loved.

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So Kate can't have an opinion, but you can???

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they filmed the Kate-hugs-Joel scene recently and tacked it on before airing the episode. It was shot inside the house, so we don't really know when it was filmed. I imagine it's hard for the producers to keep the damage control current when episodes are filmed several months in advance, unless they dub in Kate's "new" personality later on.

Also I'm willing to bet the pedicure scenes were completely staged. I don't see Kate on her knees to kiss the Pope's ring let alone attend to anyone's feet. Furthermore if she actually scraped that stone over their baby-soft 8 year old feet as hard as it looked, the twins would have been wailing in real pain, and probably unable to put weight on their feet the next day. I'm sure the pedicures were pre-done by one of the makeup people and Kate just pretended to be doing it herself. Or the scenes were shot after the Hawaii trip, because they were seen there at a spa getting...pedicures! (How fast do toenails regrow??)

Anonymous said...

Sure, maybe Kate loving on Joel was damage control, but in the end, she was loving on Joel, and isnt that what we want?
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I don't understand comments like this at all. We were shown a couple of minutes of Joel getting positive attention from his parents (for a change) and we're supposed to believe that Kate and Jon have changed the way they interact with their kids 24/7?

In my opinion, they used that little boy as a prop to spiff up their dented image. I think we're watching a public relations campaign unleashed in reaction to the recent criticisms from tabloids, main stream media, Paul Peterson et al and internet bloggers. Gotta keep those millions rolling in.

It's also my opinion that people who use their kids as props to keep the money rolling in are exploiting their own kids. Plain and simple -- to me.

Ava said...

Most people renew their vows on 10, 20, 25 or 50. But now I just read that Marc Anthony and J-Lo just renewed their's in Vegas and it has only been 4 years.
So I guess 9 years for the Gosselins is ok, especially since it was FREE. And from what I heard, it wasn't even in the month of their marriage.

Anonymous said...

Anyway, does Kate hugging Joel and "ACTING" like she cares about him even matter in the big picture? I mean I KNOW its damage control and that makes me sick, but to be honest I don't even know why they are taking the time to do damage control.

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Here's my take on it - it is damage control.

They do read this blog (J & K and the PR Team and TLC.)

They HAD to revamp Kate's image after the Jodi fiasco AND the National Enquirer article in the summer.

That's why you see no more slapping of Jon, more shows of affection towards the boys and no more Kate meltdowns or bickering between her and Jon, at least as much as we used to.

This is deliberate and definitely the work of the 'behind the scenes' team of this show.

Personally it does bother me because if the cameras were not there, the love and affection towards Joel would NOT be happening. I am convinced and I have come to this conclusion based on what I've watched the past few seasons in her treatment of the boys and the favoritism of the girls.

It's sickening and sad. She is acting and gives those fakes smiles and the tone of her voice is not sincere or natural. It's all for show.

I bet anything that when the cameras go home for the night, she is not the same person. She's not the same person to Jon nor the kids, especially the boys.

Anonymous said...

Since the kids deserved a vacation to Hawaii..why not actually give them one by going and NOT filming. Sure Kate wouldn't get her free dress..but if they are in such a need of a vacation..give them one off work !

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the reason they don't show Jenny much is that Kate doesn't want anyone "showing her up"
the way she felt Jodi did.

IMO, the less viewers see of Jenny the more J & K can maintain the illusion that they have dedicated themselves to being the full time hands on care givers of their children.

tripletsmom said...

That dress looked like a nightgown! Why did she pick white for a color? I thought "virgins" wore white. Oh, I guess Kate's a virgin again. That will be her next lie. That woman makes me want to puke everytime I see her or hear her voice. I bet the Kate wannabee's will call me a "nutjob". Oh well, sticks and stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the reason they don't show Jenny much is that Kate doesn't want anyone "showing her up"
the way she felt Jodi did. On the July 4th episode, there were really nice moments with Jenny and the kids in stark contrast to strawberrygate. Many of us noticed how great she was with the kids. Maybe Kate stipulated that no one else be shown caring for the kids.

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I kind of agree with this. Other thoughts about Jenni's camera time?

Anonymous said...

Apparently I need to pop out 8 kids in order to get free vacations and get to be INVITED to Kleinfields to pick out a wedding dress, which I'm sure she didn't pay for, or at least got it marked down. I used to like Jon and Kate, but they're letting the celebrity life take over, and it makes me sick.

Diana said...

I deleted Kon off my DVR last night. I haven't been watching them for about a month though. I like watching the kids but since the show has been more geared towards Jon and Kate I'm really not that interested. As much as I think the children need privacy, I'd rather watch a show with just the cameras following the children around, not the parents.

I was watching the Duggar's show the other day, the parents are much different and the children are great. Sure I guess it's a bit of exploting but it's definately not as bad as Kon and how they are just taking advantage of their situation. I think the Duggar's feel blessed that people want to know what they're about, while Kon just expects it.

..just my opinion

T-bag said...

We were shown a couple of minutes of Joel getting positive attention from his parents (for a change) and we're supposed to believe that Kate and Jon have changed the way they interact with their kids 24/7?
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at the same time, we're supposed to believe that they haven't? Even if they haven't at least this child got some attention at all.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding?! A bus to the airport, they are only ten people. I would think the 15 passenger van would still suffice.


Ten Gosselins, plus Jenny, plus an unknown number of other off-camera helpers,the producer, director, makeup person, security people, sound and camera crew and all their equipment, plus luggage for everybody. I'm surprised that one bus was enough.

SmartyQ said...

Katie is a performer, but she’s not an actor. The cocked head, beaming, loving smile (mouth open because that makes a more attractive smile) directed at Joel has been in movies forever. I wonder how long she had to practice it in front of a mirror before she got it right.

The ‘Silent Advertisement Award of the evening does go to Crocs. One of the boy tups asked if he could put on his Crocs (not his shoes) and, IMO, even the most dedicated fan of Queen Freebie Irene (QFI) and Prince Consort Ka-Ching (PC) should now admit the kids are working because they’re being given lines.

I don’t know if QFI has had Botox (probably), but I’m 98% sure she’s had that boobage problem fixed. You remember—the one the plastic surgeon wouldn’t throw in for free? If you look at her in the chosen dress, note that she, despite being braless, didn’t have that little pad of fat in the area between where the arm meets the chest and the breast begins. I don’t know exactly how to describe the area, but look at yourselves in the mirror, and you’ll see where I’m trying to describe. Two of my friends have had breast reductions, and they are sans that area because the plastic surgeon used liposuction to remove it. This is SOP when performing a breast reduction.

The PC called Joel a ‘traitor’ because QFI cajoled him into sitting by her on the plane. Not, mind you, because she loves Joel but because he’d be quiet and wouldn’t disturb her. The PC’s comment is rather odd because he has said that Joel has an ‘abnormal attachment’ to him. One should think the PC would be relieved.

The ‘six-time-zone changes’ excuse was farcical. I’m doubt that the tups can tell time, and I’m sure they can’t grasp the idea of time zones. QFI and PC were willing to put them in their van and drive for several hours to get to WDW, and the kids coped quite well. They couldn’t, however, cope with something they don’t understand? Following the time-zone logic, the royal couple should, when they go to Europe, spend a few days in Greenland.

Finally (not really, but I’m tired of typing), I found the most entertaining part of the episode to be QFI’s wiping her nose with her fingers during her wedding ceremony. Trash rules!

Anonymous said...

What I don't understand is why the are considered celebrity to begin with. I believe even celebrities actually work for their money. They make movies, record albums, run businesses... unlike Jon and Kate who bascially sit on a couch collecting pay checks and all kinds of free stuff for basically doing what most of us in America do for free. I think why most people are getting annoyed and upset is because it appears they probably have more money than most of us with ever make. THEY DO NOT NEED THE HELP AND ASSISTANCE ANYMORE!!! If they cannot support their children at this point and Jon and Kate actually getting a real job then there is something seriously wrong. Regarding the hotel in HI has the lady not watched the past seasons where these kids have had more trips than any of us will see in a lifetime. How many vacations does one family need in a year?

Anonymous said...

Anyone notice Kate's T-shirt? "If you can't say anything nice..." ? Who do you think that is directed at? Jodi, Jodi's sister, this blog, current negative media attention???

Anonymous said...

Maybe Kate stipulated that no one else be shown caring for the kids.
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Kate certainly isn't shown caring for the kids, and we all see WAY too much of her.

A Mom-ynous said...

Regarding stopping in San Diego to adjust to a time zone shift, I thought that was a wise albeit extravagent choice.

It isn't about toddlers understanding the concept of a time zone, but my children adjust horribly to time zone changes.

On our trip to Hawaii for a family reunion (sister's wedding was a separate el cheapo trip just for me)--My 5 year old fell asleep as soon as the sun set on our first day--and both children proceeded to fall asleep well before dinner every night unitl about the last 3 or 4 days of our 2 week trip.

Children are slaves to their internal schedule and what they don't understand well is why they have to stay up when their body is telling them it is bedtime even though it is only 3pm.

Given the history of Kate and meltdowns X 6, it stands to reason that she would have wanted a slow transition to a time zone that is 6hours apart depending on the time of year.

I think it is a great idea. Too bad that it wasn't something we could afford on top of what we were doing. (skymiles for our airfare and 1 week of our 2 week stay was hotel points and completely free).

And then we had an earthquake thrown in for free. We never noticed it--but no power all day long. That would make a great "roughing it" episode. Lol!

ductapeovermouth said...

Anyone notice Kate's T-shirt? "If you can't say anything nice..." ? Who do you think that is directed at? Jodi, Jodi's sister, this blog, current negative media attention???

She should be directing at herself, ie the things she says to Jon and her kids.

Anonymous said...

In response to: "I don’t know if QFI has had Botox (probably), but I’m 98% sure she’s had that boobage problem fixed. You remember—the one the plastic surgeon wouldn’t throw in for free? If you look at her in the chosen dress, note that she, despite being braless, didn’t have that little pad of fat in the area between where the arm meets the chest and the breast begins. I don’t know exactly how to describe the area, but look at yourselves in the mirror, and you’ll see where I’m trying to describe. Two of my friends have had breast reductions, and they are sans that area because the plastic surgeon used liposuction to remove it. This is SOP when performing a breast reduction."

I concur that it appears that Kate has been the recipient of botox injections. Regarding the breast augmentation, per the NC 'working vacation' episode , I am not convinced that she has had a breast augmentation. The appearance of her breasts in her bathing suit did not appear to be newly augmented. Due to the fact that she would not qualify for the less invasive breast augment via a navel entry, conventional breast augment would result in a week if not more down time post op for healing. The likelyhood exists that Kate could have had her boob job done post the NC 'working vacation' and before the Prep for Hawaii episode. With respect to Kate's newly toned physique; I am not convinced that THIS women spends 75 minutes per workout on a treadmill to maintain her 'figure'. IMO, viewers are seeing much less of Kate in the most recent episodes because her demanding schedule of spa visits/botox and cosmetic surgeon follow ups has kept her MIA.

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