Now THAT'S Impressive!




Man, I just can’t get enough of this place! Stunning, indeed.

I can almost picture the Gosselin kids sledding through the snow in that massive backyard. Little Aaden could have all kinds of animals housed in that barn to keep him delightfully occupied. That pool! They couldn't possibly keep Cara and Mady out of it!

Would you get a load of that driveway? That driveway looks like it was MADE to be the perfect spot for Kate to plant her four dollar white plastic lawn chair at the top of that big old hill and survey her little Queendom, high above the residents of Berks County, just where she belongs.

Wow. Just, wow. They really should look into it.

Want a closer look? Sure you do...





House slideshow here.

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dotsicle said...

Is the main reason for showcasing this particular house what I think it is?

Snap said...

So is this the new Konpound in Berks County? I'm so confused.

Anonymous said...

That's the latest Berks County rumor. J&K plus some children have been seen there after the real estate closing date.

Anonymous said...

What? They bought a $1.3 million dollar house? Yeah, sure she puts Christmas gifts into layaway at Kmart! I'm sure there's plenty of hiding places in a mansion of that size. To think 4 years ago Jon was standing at line at the Salvation Army for heating assistance.

Pimping out your kids is sure a lucrative business these days!

Ravello said...

If this is their house, how can they afford to purchase this KON pound when she is still going on TV shows insinuating they are poor? She was on GMA 2 weeks ago making meatloaf because "they are on a very tight budget".

Anonymous said...

"Wow. Just, wow. They really should look into it."

Looks like they took your advice and fell in love with the place. How nice for them that they can afford a $1.3 million dollar house and neither of them has a job. Please post if you can tell me how I can do that. I refuse to exploit my kids though.

Anonymous said...

Welcome home, Jon & Kate, welcome home.

Jon? Are you living in the outbuildings with the crew and livestock? Are the boys bunking with you?

K-mart Layaway is fantastic, if it can save this much money!

Anonymous said...

Please post if you can tell me how I can do that. I refuse to exploit my kids though.


ehhhh, sorry. That's key.

Ravello said...

If they actually own this house, will they have to repay the state of PA for the year of nursing care and the heating assistance Jon stood in line to get?

I hope people have stopped sending them cash, gift cards, presents.

And these amusement parks, railroad parks, waterparks, ballparks, crayonparks should all send bills to KON for the freebies they were given in good faith, thinking the family needed help.

justme said...

So THAT'S the kind of house that love offerings can buy.

I hope the hallways are wide enough for them. (Insert eyeroll here.)

Anonymous said...

Not quite as big as the Playboy Mansion but still impressive. I wonder if the Konlampetts will be happy here. Jonnie-Jeb ought to be able to skeer up a couple of bunnies for supper.

Anonymous said...

OK, fine. Let's say they have purchased the Wernersville estate and are moving in today. They are paying $1.3 mil (or TLC is paying), but the cost of taxes, utilities, and maintenance will be exorbitant. While TLC may be paying for these, what will KON do once TLC finally dumps their as*es as it will inevitably do? What can KON, with no education, no ambition, and no real talents whatsoever do to pay for these expenses? Even if the house is paid for, it will still be outrageously costly to maintain. And I think it is fair to say that KON is not managing their money responsibly at ALL. Kate could go back to nursing, but what legitimate hospital or clinic would hire her after seeing her in all her evil glory on the show? And Jon-boy - maybe he can work the night shift at the convenience store. He could make his $5.50 an hour (or whatever the minimum wage is these days). Gee, that would really help support a family of ten and pay the bills at the Chateau Gosselin, don't you think? I hate KON.

Ravello said...

If this is their home, I sure hope Alexis gets out of the basement. And I hope they didn't forget the forgotten child, Joel, back at that shack in E Town.
Sorry for the repeat posts but I have been trying to figure these photos and posts out.

Anonymous said...

But what happened to wanting to move away from the cold weather? Did that fall through?
Also, to those of you who live in the area, all real estate transfers will be posted in the newspapers, as that is public information. So, keep your eyes on the real estate transfers concerning this address, or you can always see the names of the buyers and the sellers, too.
Please let us know.

momforthekids said...

I looked up Berk's county property records and couldn't find any listings for Gosselin. Could it be under another name?

beachluvin said...

So, what's next? Do we have to endure Katie begging the viewers to furnish her new digs?
How are they going to explain how "broke" they are after this? I have a feeling the show won't appeal even to the most staunch Kon supporters after this display of greed.
When you think about it, if Kate had not had 6 babies at one time, she would be working as a nurse, Jon would be working (or not) and the twins would be enjoying a relatively normal childhood. Jon and Kate Gosselin jumped on the opportunity to exploit their sextuplets so they could live in luxury without having to work for it. They just had their kids do it for them.
Amazing....I just can't believe no one has stepped in to protect these children from their own greedy parents.

Anonymous said...

Well, if this is their new house then GAME OVER! How can they keep going to these speaking engagements looking for handouts when they live in a spread like this?

How can they afford the upkeep on a place like this? Someone better get a job soon because I have a feeling the gravy train is going to come to a screeching halt very soon.

Anonymous said...

"I looked up Berk's county property records and couldn't find any listings for Gosselin. Could it be under another name?"

Yes, it is. They're trying to hide, but it didn't work.

Anonymous said...

How can we find the pictures of this house on a real estate website?
The pictures posted are tiny and they do not enlarge.

wramblinwreck said...

"I looked up Berk's county property records and couldn't find any listings for Gosselin. Could it be under another name?"

The transaction wouldn't necessarily be in their name. In fact, given their "fame," they probably had it done through a third party, like an attorney.

Let's review: Kate's appearance on GMA, preparing a meatloaf recipe because they're on a "tight budget," publicizing their book which describes the hard times they experienced after the tups were born, and promoting layaway at K-mart because it allows them to stretch their dollars. I'm having trouble fitting a $1.3M estate into the "struggling family of 10" image they've crafted for themselves. This place is aptly named the KONpound.

Anonymous said...

Seems when the house sold, the real estate agent took the house off their website.

Anonymous said...

momforthekids said...
I looked up Berk's county property records and couldn't find any listings for Gosselin. Could it be under another name?
________________
I did some research myself on this today. I have access to a specialized public records database that professionals in a certain industry use to determine a person's overall wealth (which includes all property). The data is up to the minute. I searched in PA and in NC and found nothing. Could the new KON-Pound be in a trust? Usually, if we can't locate the property in the database, it generally indicates that it's in a trust. This does not mean "trust" as in "trust fund." I think it could possibly be that TLC has either purchased the home or done something funny with the paperwork to hide the info. Just speculating...

beachluvin said...

anonymous said...
OK, fine. Let's say they have purchased the Wernersville estate and are moving in today. They are paying $1.3 mil (or TLC is paying), but the cost of taxes, utilities, and maintenance will be exorbitant. While TLC may be paying for these, what will KON do once TLC finally dumps their as*es as it will inevitably do? What can KON, with no education, no ambition, and no real talents whatsoever do to pay for these expenses? Even if the house is paid for, it will still be outrageously costly to maintain.
11/01/2008 4:40 PM
____________________________
If in fact they did purchase this house, I am certain they have enough money coming in from book sales, endorsements and other scams to keep them comfortable for the rest of their lives. The thing I worry about is if there is indeed any money put away for the children's college funds. If not, that would really be a shame.
I am sure there is insider information about the sale, why else would the comment section open up for this post? Can someone fill us in? I feel foolish speculating and assuming when there are no facts given.

tootsweet said...

Can the address be looked up and then worked backwards to find who bought the property?
If they chose to buy in Penn which is close to family kudos for them. I hope they have invited all their estranged relatives to lunch on Thanksgiving and Beth and Bob and their kids too.
I think it is good they have found a large place with security, away from the public eye, and additional space for the crew. Maybe they will set aside an area where no filming can take place so everyone gets a break during filming days.
Is this property close to the kids schools?

Anonymous said...

Pretty hard to stomach...

I just had a phone conversation with my mother, who is sick with the flu, where I begged her to turn on her furnace in her house for just a little while. She's abstaining from using it, you see, because she is on a fixed income as a widow (yet still works 40+ hours a week), and she is terrified about high fuel prices this winter.

Maybe she should have planned a little better and pimped out her kids for the cameras when we were younger.

Anonymous said...

I have followed this site for a while now. Keeping the new house a secret is out of the question. If that in fact is their new house, it only took someone I know about 30 minutes to find out the exact address. You can't hide that kind of house purchase...

momforthekids said...

I'm sure that they are trying to conceal it in some way. They don't want the public to know their new address. I will continue to use my resources to find out any new information. The property might not be in their name because then no one can put a "lien" against the property. You never know who might try and sue them. After all, look at all the lies that are being exposed. The truth will prevail.

Anonymous said...

So this family did not move

To North Carolina

As that property was given much speculation.

Little children

Keeping wait as their

Mother and father

Unveil their new location.

Children and their parents finally

Happily home.

Barb said...

If their mortgage goes into foreclosure, I'm sure as heck not going to allow them to participate in a government bailout!

wramblinwreck said...

"Could the new KON-Pound be in a trust? Usually, if we can't locate the property in the database, it generally indicates that it's in a trust."

Very possible. The listing would appear under the trustee's name, usually the attorney or law firm who set up the trust, thus protecting the privacy of their client.

KathyGriffith said...

Oh I'm sure Katie Irene and Jon will be going on and on about how they *truly needed* the extra space, and they absolutely *had* to buy a large house! It was essential! They were crammed into their old house like sardines!

I am certain they will rationalize and explain and attempt damage control. I am also sure that there is no coincidence in the publicity to cry poor happened before the big move.

Anonymous said...

Well, I will be checking out my Sunday paper tomorrow. The old house is in an area that would be published in my paper- if it was sold.

Anonymous said...

I was just looking at satellite views on Google of Wernersville, PA to see if I could see any landmarks. It shouldn't be that hard to spot.
I am willing to bet that they won't show the kids running through the new house, because then you'd see all the rooms and the expense and luxury.
They will probably just film from their "chair" interview area to keep from being criticized.

BEE said...

How far is this house from the area they currently live in?

Anonymous said...

beachluvin said:
If in fact they did purchase this house, I am certain they have enough money coming in from book sales, endorsements and other scams to keep them comfortable for the rest of their lives. The thing I worry about is if there is indeed any money put away for the children's college funds. If not, that would really be a shame.
I am sure there is insider information about the sale, why else would the comment section open up for this post? Can someone fill us in? I feel foolish speculating and assuming when there are no facts given.
______________
Yes, There probably is a lot of money coming in to set them up for life. However, I do not think KON is capable of effective money management. I do not think they have a grounded understanding of financial planning, money and how it works. They just know they want it and as much of it as possible. They could be set for life if they took responsibility for managing it to ensure the future of their family and THE KIDS! Somehow, I really doubt this is happening. So, that is why I am questioning your statement about their being set for life. You might be right, but I wonder....

Anonymous said...

If this is their home, I sure hope Alexis gets out of the basement. And I hope they didn't forget the forgotten child, Joel, back at that shack in E Town

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BTW , in the most recent epi (prepping for Hawaii), Alexis's bed was still in the basement. It's the beginning of the episode, Kate is walking down the stairs to show the kids the original wedding video - there is a quick pan of the bed, pillows, aldergators and all.

Anonymous said...

You know, famous actors should be set for life, also. But how many times do they let it all slide through their fingers? Lots of times.
Let's see: 5 bedrooms -- one for J&K, Mady and Cara get separate bedrooms, the little girls get one bedroom and the little boys get one bedroom.

Anonymous said...

Too bad they didn't move to Weinersville.

Jen said...

I agree with everyone's comments about the feasibility (or lack thereof) of maintaining a house like this after the Figure 8 well has dried. Are KON really going to mow that lawn by themselves? Shovel that 90-mile driveway? Clean the 300 bathrooms? They are going to require ongoing landscaping and cleaning services.

Even if they are financially comfortable enough to afford these maintenance services for the future, that's still appalling to me. KON, you're essentially stealing the money earned by your children and using it on yourselves. If you truly wanted to provide for your children, you would have purchased a more modest (yet still sufficient) home and saved up the remainder for college funds and/or general trust funds for the children to have as adults.

Anonymous said...

"Could the new KON-Pound be in a trust? Usually, if we can't locate the property in the database, it generally indicates that it's in a trust."

Bingo!
Keep looking at your satellite maps. You will find your answer there.

Anonymous said...

"If this is their home, I sure hope Alexis gets out of the basement."

There's a fireplace and bathroom in the basement. She'll be fine.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure they'll make the move, the reasoning behind it, and the actual move into this new house an episode or three in the coming months.

chicago teacher said...

On another site it was posted that the Gosselins have indeed moved (www.sixgosselins.com)and stated that this was confirmed by neighbors.

There is also an article in People about their holiday plans (hosting at least 15 other people) http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20236569,00.html
I am very interested in who the fifteen people actually are - as the Christmas show was filmed early so the Figure8 staff filmed early to be with their own family and I assume their helpers and created extended family (Nana Joan, etc.) would have their own family as well.

Anonymous said...

I agree with everyone's comments about the feasibility (or lack thereof) of maintaining a house like this after the Figure 8 well has dried. Are KON really going to mow that lawn by themselves? Shovel that 90-mile driveway? Clean the 300 bathrooms? They are going to require ongoing landscaping and cleaning services.
Hopefully they are receiving sound financial advice and they will be set for a very long time. Even if the shows as we know it ends soon, I think there will be shows in the future. Maybe every 2-3 years just to catch up on the kids as they grow up.

Anonymous said...

Where I live 1.3 million is not a lot of money for a home. It might buy you the barn that is part of their new property but that is about it. I'm not sure if they paid cash or if they have a mortgage but from what the Gosselins are making these days, the house is very affordable. The problem with the house is that it is so ostentatious and pretentious so it will be difficult for them to keep up their "poor us" act.
We're soon going to hear about how "blessed" they are to live in their new McMansion but how much they are in need of furnishings and how they afforded this how by Kate clipping coupons, layaways at KMart, meatloaf dinners and budgeting those organic meals!
It amazes me how "thick" some of these super fans are and how they believe everything that comes out of that lying mouth!

Anonymous said...

Did you save all the pictures individually? I can't really see the little ones in the link you provided, and there must be a dozen of them.

Can you post all of them, please?

Anonymous said...

If this is indeed the house that they purchased, I hope there is some EXTREME supervision around the pool since Kate doesn't /can't swim and seems terrified around the water, not to mention the fact that she doesn't watch the kids.....

Anonymous said...

Considering J & K, just a mere 4 years ago were 'crying poor' and relying financially and otherwise on the handouts , donations and that of the community taxpayers, what believable direction/premise will this TLC reality show present itself as in the very near future? IMO, The personal and financial transformation from the J & K of yester year to what we see them as today will only further fuel the criticisms and give merit to the concerns regarding the past, presnt and continued exploitation of the Gosselin children.

Anonymous said...

Those 15 extra guests? The way the sentence is written, it sounded to me like she has had extra guests in the past -- not that she is declaring that this year she expects 15 more around her table.

That was a PR comment - not necessarily the truth.

Anonymous said...

A house like this seems wasted on Kate. She has stated herself she isnt into decorating or fixing a place up nice. Usually if a huge amount of money is spent on a home the owners want to make it look nice and personalize it their own way. I dont think Kate has the interest. And I'm sure Jon doesnt either.

BEE said...

Chicago Teacher....I don't see anywhere on sixgosselins.com where they say they have moved...am I missing something?

Anonymous said...

Yes, for anyone still confused, the house they bought is in Berks County. They are living there now and it is just miles from where they previously lived when the children were born. The home was previously owned by a Reading Hospital physician. I have friends who live on the same road. Everything is being kept quite hush hush for now.

Anonymous said...

I'm actually happy for them (the kids particularly) that they are going to live on such a large beautiful property.

Hopefully the kids will have more privacy this way and also hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of the exploitation of the children. Kate is obviously in the midst of "branding" herself and if the focus can come off the kids and onto her and her "brand", that's fine with me.

I personally would never buy any of her stuff but many of her fans would no doubt love to buy a clothing line by her, cookbooks, children's books etc. This would be the best possible end for the kids to step out of the spotlight.

dotsicle said...

If this is their house, and I believe it is, then they'll need to hire help to
maintain the grass/ snow removal
maintain the outbuildings
housekeep the home interior
maintain the pool
maintain Jon's hair plug regime

TLC/Figure8 will likely not be paying for those things.I understand their electric bill was paid by production due to the studio lighting, but that may not be the case in the new house. If they can't get an upscale furniture company to give them a house full of furniture, they may have to settle for Ikea... OR.... actually BUY furniture with their own (children's) money! What a novel concept!

Anonymous said...

I have been giving this a lot of thought lately and I'm wondering if Beth (with or without the help of others) is writing another book about child exploitation? I just have to wonder if she is keeping quiet because she's preparing something big? Just something to ponder.....

Anonymous said...

In one of their later shows Kate did say, "Our kids have a wonderful life, and because of our kids, we have a wonderful life."

Perhaps they won't be pleading for handouts after they move into their new house.

Anonymous said...

I thought someone posted this house simply to tell us what is available in PA and wondered why they didn't buy something like this instead of building in someplace warm. Kate said she wanted to live someplace warm so they wouldn't have to put up with 8 snowsuits. Do we even think this house pictured is the one they bought or is this just a rumor?

VAmls said...

The house has indeed been sold, to a trust. Deed was recorded on the 31st of November, the same day the sellers of the home also had the deed for their new home recorded.
It's all in the tax records.
The old G house doesn't appear to have been sold at this point or at least their is no new recording of a deed.

nancy019 said...

Yes, this is a beautiful house and it will be wonderful for the children to have room to run around and play without the worry of strangers. BUT, I also cannot help but think that those kids are going to be even more isolated than ever. Kate did not let her kids play with the other kids in the old neighborhood, now they will really have no one but themselves to hang out with. And we know KON will probably not let their friends come over (can't watch their own kids, let alone someone else's). Kind of scary the way they are being cut off from all who care about them...

Ravello said...

Only in America could this happen. Two unemployed adults purchase a 1.3 million dollar KONpound.

The twins and tups earned the money to buy this home and the parents are spending it on a McMansion. There would be no show if not for the tups. No one cares about Jon and Kate.

Paul Petersen and other child stars of bygone eras had miserable childhoods, then learned their parents had squandered all their earnings.
I wonder what Paul thinks about this purchase. I hope he speaks out.

I feel the kids got cheated, shouldn't the earnings be placed in trust for them?
I do not want to hear the KONS begging for college assistance or any other type of handout.

All families need shelter but no one needs to live in a 1.3 Million dollar Konpound.

Anonymous said...

berks county property records are not up to date...it take time for new transactions to be recorded.

Anonymous said...

So did the G's pay the asking price for the house?

Anonymous said...

food for thought. I live in berks county. Property taxes on a house appraised around 300,000 is about 9,000.00 a year.

so J&K will be paying over 36,000 a year in property taxes. Not too mention utilites, and upkeep.

Anonymous said...

VAmls said...
The house has indeed been sold, to a trust. Deed was recorded on the 31st of November, the same day the sellers of the home also had the deed for their new home recorded.
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Uh....today is November 2nd. How can this be?

Lipstick Girl said...

Somehow the word McMansion and Kmart just don't go together. I have never in my years knew a kmart shopper that had a 1.3M dollar dwelling.The American public is being duped by this family.

Hambone said...

Does anyone know if the new house is closer, or further away from, the children's pre-school and/or church? Just curious ( or rather nosey ) if they will have to drive even further to get to these places, or if they will have to find new schools and house of worship.

Anonymous said...

The Wernersville house is 2.30 miles from the nearby mental institution where Kates children will invariably wheel her down the hill to when she loses her mind after they all one by one leave her Mommy Dearest ass.

Anonymous said...

Hambone? They moved closer to all of that.
Kate needed to move to where everyone hates them so she can settle old scores! Thats why they bought a bight house that can be seen from the street so the people that hate them can see her "SPECIALNESS"...

She moved there to show off.

Thats why she couldnt leave Pa.

Anonymous said...

When the US economy collapses and our dollar becomes worthless, Jon and Kate can burn the barn for firewood.

That cheap particleboard IKEA furniture is made from will burn too fast.

They also can cut down all those trees.


Plan ahead Kate.

Kate? the nearest Aldi to you is:
1010 Cedar Top Rd, Reading, PA

iluveeyore said...

VAmls said...
The house has indeed been sold, to a trust. Deed was recorded on the 31st of November, the same day the sellers of the home also had the deed for their new home recorded.
_____

Uh....today is November 2nd. How can this be?


That was an error. The deed was recorded on the 31st of October. And it was sold to a trust. Many "celebrities" ;) do that to try to maintain privacy. Having the house in a trust might actually have a paragraph about who actually "owns" the house and what happens to the 24 acres when the tv show bites the dust.

As for any attempts to maintain privacy, in LA you can buy maps to movie stars' homes. I don't understand how the Gosselins think they can hide.

I also suspect that, at their PR agency's prompting, they have invited all the people they have kicked to the sidelines (family and friends) to their home for Thanksgiving dinner. Of course, the dinner will be catered and served by paid help.

(BTW, a house and property like that where I live would cost $10M, at a minimum. Boy, they -- or Figure 8 Films -- is lucky that PA is so cheap!)

Anonymous said...

The property is cheap because it's rural berks county pa. It's also "cheap" because the main value is the home. The land can't be subdivided. So the land really isn't worth much.

Anonymous said...

If the transaction was dated on Friday, then it will be about six months til it hits the Home section Of the Reading Eagle

Anonymous said...

Lipstick Girl said...
Somehow the word McMansion and Kmart just don't go together. I have never in my years knew a kmart shopper that had a 1.3M dollar dwelling.The American public is being duped by this family.
__________________
That's why do not call it "McMansion" anymore. It is heretofore referred to as the "KonPound."

Lynn said...

"That was an error. The deed was recorded on the 31st of October. And it was sold to a trust."

Sorry, I must correct. The deed was recorded on 10/23/08, and the purchase price was $1,120,000.00. This is according to online records that I was able to view.

pinkdiamond611 said...

With all the hinting that J&K have been giving over the past year that they "need a place in a warmer climate" so that they are not cooped up inside all winter, plus they actually had scenes of them house hunting in VA, I really don't think Kate is going to be happy with this house. She doesn't even like to drive. She is probably going to have to drive at least 45 minutes just to get the organic fluff.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Those 15 extra guests? The way the sentence is written, it sounded to me like she has had extra guests in the past -- not that she is declaring that this year she expects 15 more around her table.

That was a PR comment - not
necessarily the truth

I agree. Either typical Kate hyperbole, or J & K's PR team commenting on their behalf, similar to the 'we go through 3 boxes of cereal a morning' and 'an entire loaf of bread at dinner time'. Responses that would be considered 'believable' for that of any large family. However, not necessarily true to that of the Gosselin family.

Tami said...

"All families need shelter but no one needs to live in a 1.3 Million dollar Konpound."

I wonder if the people who gave them 'love offerings' will finally get it now that they have been scammed. I hope they feel stupid. I'll bet there are some fools out there who will still continue to believe these phonys need more money for college, weddings, etc.

As for Alexis being in the basement, I'm sure now there will be a place for her to go off by herself. Leah and Hannie can continue to be roommates on their own as they have now for a while. Perhaps Alexis can get her own room or even bunk in the maid's quarters.

Kate can keep up her desperate product placements and hawking for KMart as long as she wants. But no way will they be able to maintain this when the show ends. Someone said now the kids can get privacy. How so? They simply can't end the show now or they will never be able to keep up this lifestyle!

Anonymous said...

Uh-oh! Do I see a detached garage? Kate will actually have to walk across the driveway to park herself in her white chair to "watch" the kids! Hope she is provided a Segway to get around!

VAmls said...

Oops sorry-should have been 10/31
Not November 31st!!! Guess I must be anxious for the holidays or something!!

I saw something in the thread about isolating the kids. Obviously the house is within driving distance of stuff but it does sit pretty much by its lonesome self. Not going to be any kids from next door wanting to stop in and play.

That seems to be the way the Gosselin's like it though!

Anonymous said...

They probably wanted to keep it hushed and quick so they could get up there and turn an episode around within 30 days to make November sweeps. Only 3 epis are dedicated to Hawaii; need a fourth to round out the big rating month.

What a sham.

Anonymous said...

I wonder why they didn't move to North Carolina. Something must have happened when they went there this Summer and they changed their minds. We saw them looking at a beautiful home in VA, and property in NC. So why did they choose to stay in PA? And back to the Reading area? Those people there have their number. Good thing they moved to an isolated mansion because I really don't think they will be welcomed back with open arms.
By the way, whoever posted above, that's funny stuff about the mental hospital. It's only a few miles from the new house. That might come in handy LOL.

my9cats said...

Anonymous said...
Did you save all the pictures individually? I can't really see the little ones in the link you provided, and there must be a dozen of them.

Can you post all of them, please?

11/02/2008 7:49 AM

I used the magnifier on my mouse.
Check to seee if your's has one.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the college funds set up by the state of PA had anything to do with them having to remain in PA in order to keep them????

Just wondering....not saying this is why. I have no idea why, but it would seem fair that if a state is going to help with college, you would have to actually live in that state to get it.

Anonymous said...

I saw something in the thread about isolating the kids. Obviously the house is within driving distance of stuff but it does sit pretty much by its lonesome self. Not going to be any kids from next door wanting to stop in and play.

That seems to be the way the Gosselin's like it though!
Sure they like it that way.
It is J & K's 'goal' to keep their children isolated from the 'evil doers' ie anyone who does not agree with their choices or does not understand them so they will all be together and love each other forever in their new home or HOE, House of Exploitation.

Anonymous said...

I also live in berks county but the statement about property taxes is wrong. It depends on the age of the home. Many 300,000 homes have taxes way under the 9000 you mention because they are not new. The home J&K bought has been there for over 10 years.

beachluvin said...

You know just because they bought this house doesn't necessarily negate a home in North Carolina. With all their money, they could be building a summer house in North Carolina where they vacationed. They could use it as rental property when not "summering" there.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I wonder if the college funds set up by the state of PA had anything to do with them having to remain in PA in order to keep them????

Just wondering....not saying this is why. I have no idea why, but it would seem fair that if a state is going to help with college, you would have to actually live in that state to get it.
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I doubt that KON is capable of thinking strategically which means they would not make any decision based on anything other than immediate and instant satisfaction. I doubt the college funds, if they are even a concern, would be a dealbreaker in their moving to NC or elsewhere out of state. Who knows why they are staying in PA - especially Berks County where they have been notorious for the last 4 1/2 years and are basically persona non grata.

Anonymous said...

I don't know where to put this, so I apologize in advance. I looked up Jonathan and/or Kate Gosselin in the specialized database which gives indicators of wealth. One of the categories in the db of public information is for "charitable contributions." There is NOT one thing there. So, I am pretty sure that check Kate gave to Ronald McDonald House on the show (the NICU episode) was underwritten and signed by TLC. I can tell you that donation would have been picked up in the database in question.

Gloria said...

"I wonder why they didn't move to North Carolina."

Maybe they will still buy or build a vacation home in North Carolina in addition to the Konpound. People making the kind of money they are making usually have more than one house.

Not sure how KMart layaway, brown bag lunchs and coupon clipping will go along with that...

Anonymous said...

They did indeed move to this house. Drove by there yesterday and saw the kids out front in the yard, and the big blue van parked in the garage, and a small white box truck in the driveway (moving truck or TLC?). It's quite a house, that's for sure, but the one pictured is in fact the house they're in.

As someone else said, this house is pretty isolated. It's not a home you can easily come across, without knowing where to look, and there are no other homes on that stretch of road, but it is also in very close proximity to all the necessities.

I would venture to say they made this move to be a little closer to family? They often make trips to Berks County area anyway (church, etc.) and family still lives here.

Green said...

WOW - you guys are GOOD! Wonder why the G's are keeping this so hush hush.

Anonymous said...

I would venture to say they made this move to be a little closer to family? They often make trips to Berks County area anyway (church, etc.) and family still lives here.
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Their trips to Berks County were not to visit their family. They went there to go to their church, but Kon has long ago cut off contact with their family because they "didn't know how to help us."

Anonymous said...

Beautiful house. My first thought is for heaven's sake get a fence around that pool and pronto.

chiasmus said...

I believe that they have stayed in PA because it is close to Kate's "work" in NYC.

I wonder who will live in the 800 sq ft "in-law" suite. Perhaps Jenny will become a live-in nanny.

Anonymous said...

Interesting how they live in a grand house now but still drive that crap van around.

Tami said...

I would venture to say they made this move to be a little closer to family? They often make trips to Berks County area anyway (church, etc.) and family still lives here.
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Hmm..and just which family members would they be interested in visiting? Have you watched the show lately?

Also, in responses to some other posts, I really think that alluding to the NC move was just so TLC could create an excuse for them to spend 2 weeks at the shore for free--as in 'we went there to look at some properties'. As soon as they walked into the property they were full of excuses as to why it would not work. Another theory is they were trying to do their usual begging where they make their wishes known and magically they come true..only no one took them up on it and they "had" to move into a McMansion in PA instead. It's sort of like how they dreamed God would give them a van but apparently had to buy it themselves.

Anonymous said...

In my state there is a pool fencing ordinance. I don't know about Pennsylvania, but I would surely hope that Kon would fence the pool. Most people would do it for the love of their children. Kon should at least do it for the preservation of their little paychecks.

quinn said...

If you ever wondered at what cost Kon would trade their children's privacy and normal childhoods for, apparently it's 1.3 million dollars.

Layaway at Kmart? LMAO about that still!

Anonymous said...

Are you serious??? This is their new house? My husband is a Pastor and if we had them at our church charging money from our parishoners who are not very rich, but very giving, with that sob story of no "college funds" I think we would sue them for every dollar they took from those hard working people. Theft by deception or Flim Flam, you decide.
And for those who claim that the Gosselins are comparable to the Jolie-Pitts. UHHH Angelina gives away any money made off the childrens pictures, which amounts to millions, to charity. The Gosselins are reality tv people, not oscar winning stars who have worked very hard to get where they are and work off the backs of their children.
Oh and one more thing, that house is just a place to showcase her little "dog and pony show" called "Tuplet Land". Not interested anymore.

Anonymous said...

I am very confused. You posted this house weeks ago, but didn't mention the Gosselins bought it. Now you are confirming they bought it? How can they afford it? They need free clothes and free food just to live. Remember, neither Jon or Kate work. The money from the show goes into trust for their kids, right? I am so confused.

Ravello said...

"Are you serious??? This is their new house? My husband is a Pastor and if we had them at our church charging money from our parishoners who are not very rich, but very giving, with that sob story of no "college funds" I think we would sue them for every dollar they took from those hard working people. Theft by deception or Flim Flam, you decide."

Great comment, pastors wife. I totally agree with you, they took money under false pretenses.

I attended a KON love offering in February in a small rural Ohio town. The speech was at her sister's church in Defiance.
They spoke to a packed house of middle and working class people, she talked on and on about their financial hardships, Jon losing jobs because of insurance reasons, etc. They certainly did not mention they don't even have jobs because they are too lazy to work. A love offering basket was passed and I saw many people pulling $20 bills out for the Gosselins.
They spoke 3 times in 2 days at this church, I can only imagine how much cash they took home to PA.

Anonymous said...

Wow...sounds like a few of you are jealous of the new digs. Yes, J&K have, and are making money off of the show, but so what! That is their business. So what if they are buying a bigger house for their family. I cringe at the thought of living in a 4 bedroom house like theirs with the size of family they have. Close quarters can be a bit stressful! Yes, Kate has her issues, but I think she is a good mom. She loves her kids and her husband. I don't think they thought they would be doing the show this long, but hey, it pays their bills! I say good for them!

Anonymous said...

I just realized that they live up past the Church my husband and i got married at! They aren't too far from my in-laws either.

Anonymous said...

Just doing alittle checking.
I suppose with all the money made off their children J&K could have readily paid cash for the new home. Considering doing that might leave them a bit short down the road, it seems more likely that they financed a portion.
For the sake of argument:
If they did make a full price offer which is only conjecture, and then put a down payment of say $300,000 they would have had to have taken out a jumbo mortgage with considerably higher rates than a normal 30 year mortgage.
The jumbo rates in PA are between 7-9.5 %.
If they did ( still based on the above figures ) borrow 1,000,000 the payments would be between $7600 and $8500. That is without taxes and homewowners insurance. Conservative guesstimate?
The payments will run close to $10,000 a month.
They would not have to pay the mortgage insurance having put down more than the required 20% to avoid the mtg insurance.
Upkeep on a piece of property like that will be costly as well.
I imagine Kate will be hiring a team of housekeepers, she needed (wanted) help with
1500 sq ft +/-, so I imagine it will be necessary with 6200+.
Upkeep of the grounds & pool will be another expense.
Not to mention the gas and electricity bills for a home that large.
Again conjecture only, but I would think that someone would have to be pulling in roughly $35,000 a month (or more) to even qualify for something like this.

dotsicle said...

Anonymous said: "Yes, J&K have, and are making money off of the show, but so what!"
The "so what" is that Jon and Kate have not made money "off of the show", they have made it "off their kids". With no kids there would be no show. They have, IMO, sold their kids out for financial gain. They have also lied about said finances at churches like the one in Defiance Ohio, in order to collect donations from good people who want to help this "poor family".

Judy said...

Why do people automatically think that negative comments about someone equals jealousy?
I am certainly not jealous of the Gosselins. I could care less how big their house is or what Kate wears or how often she goes to the spa or even the freebies they acquire.
I think what most people have a problem with is the way they have lied to their fans, the exploitation of their children and the treatment of their volunteers in the past.

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:31 :

Jealous? No way. "So cramped in their 4 bedroom house"?, this is a 5 bedroom house. Not much different. The rooms at their other house were quite large enough for them if they got rid of the production staff that practically lived with them. Then they wouldn't have to worry about continually exploiting their children to pay for a bigger house.

K-mom said...

Wow...sounds like a few of you are jealous of the new digs. Yes, J&K have, and are making money off of the show, but so what! That is their business. So what if they are buying a bigger house for their family. I cringe at the thought of living in a 4 bedroom house like theirs with the size of family they have. Close quarters can be a bit stressful! Yes, Kate has her issues, but I think she is a good mom. She loves her kids and her husband. I don't think they thought they would be doing the show this long, but hey, it pays their bills! I say good for them!

If it was just the show that was subsidizing this move, even though I feel they are exploiting their children and are far from good parents, I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. The problem I have is that this home is being paid for in large part by "love offerings" they have collected from churches over the last few years where they share their story of poverty and many people, most of whom have far less money than J & K, reach into their pockets and make a donation. It is their money paying for this house, given under false pretenses.

I would venture a guess that many of J&K's loyal supporters will be jumping ship after this latest development. This family does not NEED a million dollar mansion. They could have purchased a home twice the price of their old home and gotten something more than adequate for their family size. Greed has taken over their lives, at the expense of their children. The surviving Dionne quintuplets stated that multiple births should not be confused with entertainment. In my opinion, the J&K situation is even worse than the Dionne's because it's the parents who are subjecting their children to this kind of life and the parents who are profiting as well. It's sad, and it's sick, and I feel horrible for those poor children. I don't know anyone who would be jealous of that.

Anonymous said...

I failed to mention in my above comment that there will probably be outlay for some sort of fencing/wall around at least the home part of the property with a gate a street level to keep people from driving up the drive way at all hours of the day and night.
That won't be cheap either.

Anonymous said...

Why do people automatically think that negative comments about someone equals jealousy?
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I absolutely agree 100%

to anon 6:31 am and anyone else who loves to play the "jealousy" trump card:

My husband is a successful surgeon - we live in a relatively affluent area where a small house would cost 1.3 million. When my husband was in med school, and in his residency and during his fellowship, $ was indeed tight, and I worked full time. I am now a SAHM with 2 children, and we are very lucky to be able to afford nice things, nice trips - all because my husband works about 70 hours/week.
We do not take anything for granted: I clip coupons,buy on sale (I love price adjustments!) I volunteer at my sons' schools, I donate to charity, I help in soup kitchens (with my kids) , and I am now looking for part time work.

So, if the sheeple are saying that I, who am NOT a sheeple, am jealous, and I can afford the same material things as KON, just what do you think makes me jealous of these 2 scam artists ? Seriously, what ? The people who accuse others of being jealous basically are saying that because the G's have trips, nice clothing, and now a nice house, the family is happy.
Hogwash.

Anonymous said...

I am not jealous either.

I come from a very wealthy family, full of old money and stocks and real estate.

I sit around, and collect checks. I have no reason to be jealous of Kate.

I am however, concerned with the lies and treatment of the children.

That is my main focus.

Anonymous said...

6200 square feet isn't that large. They didn't get as much square footage as they could've without all the extra buildings and land on the property.

My house including our finished basement is 5600 square feet. While it is spacious...I still think with eight children it would feel small!

Anonymous said...

I was just crunching numbers.

If the house is 6200 square feet and there are ten of them that works out to 620 square feet per person.

I then did my numbers and with a family of four we have 900 square feet per person. This doesn't include additional square footage that we would add once our basement is finished.

While the house is large, it's the barn, property etc that add to it's size and value.

Anonymous said...

I completely agree that this house is over the top. I can't wait to see how they try to spin this one. Did they need a bigger house? Probably. Did they need THIS big of a house on THIS much land? I don't think so. If they even try to pretend they are taking care of it all on their own I swear I'll scream.

These kids are being raised to think that this is the way life is. You don't have to work for anything, it's just given to you. What they are doing right now is not work. It's people with cameras following them around on all of their free trips. What a shock reality will be to them one day when they find out they have to work for things! This gravy train has to run out of track eventually and J&K might actually have to get real jobs like the majority of the families in America so that they can pay for the necessities of life.

Anonymous said...

In response to: Anonymous said...
Wow...sounds like a few of you are jealous of the new digs. Yes, J&K have, and are making money off of the show, but so what! That is their business. So what if they are buying a bigger house for their family. I cringe at the thought of living in a 4 bedroom house like theirs with the size of family they have. Close quarters can be a bit stressful! Yes, Kate has her issues, but I think she is a good mom. She loves her kids and her husband. I don't think they thought they would be doing the show this long, but hey, it pays their bills! I say good for them!

And....so what if the 8 minor Gosselin children were/ are exploited in the process; 'But hey, it pays the bills'. Good thing they have those 8 children to provide them with an income and lifestyle they could and would not otherwise afford. Just a mere four years ago they were living off the hand outs and donations of the tax paying community, love offerings and searching their magical couch for $$$ to make their mortgage payment. 'But hey, it pays the bills'...Surely you jest.

Anonymous said...

What a shock reality will be to them one day when they find out they have to work for things!

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Not only that, but can you imagine how the tups will react (not by their own fault, of course)when they have to wait in line , when the entire restaurant/skating rink/ride is not shut down for them only ?

Bounce U, Thomas (they got the whole car to themselves), Rollerblading, Sesame Place restaurant/meet & greet, the dairy farm, the train museum, the zoo : these are just a few examples where NOBODY else was around. All that alone time with Kate would drive me nuts.

Anonymous said...

I know people have been trying to calculate what monthly payments and expenses would amount to with the new home.
I was thinking that it's entirely possible that IF, and I say IF Kon paid for the house themselves....they could easily have made enough money to buy something a little over a million just in the past year. And, added to that, when the other house sells, they will get income back from that one.
Just as an example, let's imagine that at speaking engagements, they sell 300 photos per month. (we don't know the total....bear with me) and seeing that sometimes they go to a church, let's say that once per month, rather than twice, it's one of those $25,000 incomes. Add in a few thousand from love donations, add in the thousands earned from the show each week. Now add in whatever Kate is getting with her contracts for being a spokesperson. Can you see that they could just buy this house outright? Remember, as far as normal living expenses...they pay only a fraction. Since a lot is given to them, they are not struggling to meet their food, clothing expenses. Every trip was "hosted" by a company or organization. Every time one of them appeared on a day time show, they were paid for that appearance. So, it's entirely possible that they picked out a house and paid for it.
Also, glad to see that some of you are refuting the people who cry "jealous" all of the time. Is there any OTHER possibility in their minds why we would be annoyed with the Gosselins fraudulent ways? Many of us don't need any more than we have, or have already brought up our families and we would NEVER trade places with the Gosselins. So, jealousy isn't even in the picture. Doesn' anyone just feel "rightous indignation" after having people sit and lie constantly to the public, then reap the monetary rewards?

SmartyQ said...

11/02/2008 8:36 PM Anonymous said... Interesting how they live in a grand house now but still drive that crap van around.
I'm sure the 'crap' van will soon be replaced with a new van. I note the garage has three bays, and I'll bet Jon already has picked out his sports car.

Anonymous said...

For someone to go from a struggling situation to the lifestyle they have now (a mere 4+ years later), there are some major lies being fed to the public (people that continue to give to them, corporations that continue to give to them, etc). Some people catch on quick; some don't. Wake up people. They didn't get to where they are without exploiting alot of people, most importantly those kids and their privacy.

Anonymous said...

I dont know if they bought this house or not but just wanted to answer people questioning why they didnt to move to VA or the carolinas. On another site I follow this show on they said they have child labor labs in the carolinas and VA which would be children could not spend allthose hours being taped. apparently PA does not have these laws. Dont know for sure but just what I heard on another site.

Anonymous said...

My home is 1500 square feet. The G's old house was slightly larger I believe considering the finished basement.
I can't even fathom moving into a house three or four times the size of this one.
6200 square feet is alot of space after living in a 'normal' sized house.

Anonymous said...

For someone to go from a struggling situation to the lifestyle they have now (a mere 4+ years later), there are some major lies being fed to the public (people that continue to give to them, corporations that continue to give to them, etc). Some people catch on quick; some don't. Wake up people. They didn't get to where they are without exploiting alot of people, most importantly those kids and their privacy.

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Seriously, if anyone had doubt about KON's "needs" the new house should put all that doubt to rest. Innocent people and sheeple alike need to find other much more worthy causes .

Anonymous said...

I also live in the area and they have moved in. The loan for the house was a commercial loan and the house was sold to a company. Settlement was two weeks ago and Kate made a huge fuss over the ceiling paint. I am thinking some of the money from the sale went to re-painting the ceilings. About $2000 in security was added to the house as well. I haven't seen them around. Jon was a preschool picking up the kids the other day. Kate wasn't around. The twins' private school is in Lancaster, about 25 minutes away from their new house. There is no buzz happening in the school they would be attending if they went to public school.

highQ said...

Does KON get a "love offering" every time they go to Church or is that just when they do special appearances at Churches??

Tami said...

Not only that, but can you imagine how the tups will react (not by their own fault, of course)when they have to wait in line , when the entire restaurant/skating rink/ride is not shut down for them only ?

Bounce U, Thomas (they got the whole car to themselves), Rollerblading, Sesame Place restaurant/meet & greet, the dairy farm, the train museum, the zoo : these are just a few examples where NOBODY else was around. All that alone time with Kate would drive me nuts.*********

But kate would not settle for that. Can't you just picture her going up to management and announcing that KON and the golden gosselins are there and that they would expect to be able to go in the front of the line considering they were once stars of a very popular show. Gag.

Anonymous said...

"These kids are being raised to think that this is the way life is. You don't have to work for anything, it's just given to you."

That's one of the saddest parts of this whole mess. I feel sorry for those kids having KON as their parents, and I feel sorry for the rude awakening they're going to have when they grow up. It will all be over in a year or so and no one will care about them anymore. I see years of therapy ahead for all of them.

Anonymous said...

At this point, it seems that the only thing that could stop this madness is if some authority on behalf of the children steps in.
The kids didn't seem to be treated very well before. Now Kate is busy all of the time and both of the parents just 'herd' the children from on money maker to another. Everything just seems to be spinning out of control and sadly, may only stop when something very bad happens. Their young lives just seem so pitiful. They don't have an extended family and really don't seem to have a 'family' withing their own home.

Anonymous said...

What is the fifth picture of in the slide show? I can't see where it fits in with the main photo of the house? is it a another house on the property?

Anonymous said...

What is the fifth picture of in the slide show? I can't see where it fits in with the main photo of the house? is it a another house on the property?

The Fifth picture is the house!

Anonymous said...

"What is the fifth picture of in the slide show? I can't see where it fits in with the main photo of the house? is it a another house on the property?"

There's also a guest house, 4 stall barn, and detached 3 car garage.

What on earth are they going to do with a 4 stall barn? Raise race horses? Or...4 stalls, the dirty, icky boys, and Jon, can reside there.

mswestern said...

I dont know if they bought this house or not but just wanted to answer people questioning why they didnt to move to VA or the carolinas. On another site I follow this show on they said they have child labor labs in the carolinas and VA which would be children could not spend allthose hours being taped. apparently PA does not have these laws. Dont know for sure but just what I heard on another site.

If anything, filming the series would have been easier (from a production perspective, not for the children!) in North Carolina.

North Carolina is known for the laxity of its laws regulating the working hours and conditions of children in the entertainment industry. The Film Office's own website says, in part: " The child labor provisions do not apply to children employed as actors or performers in motion pictures, theatrical, radio or television productions." (http://www.ncfilm.com/filming-in-nc/regulations/child-labor-laws.html)

Paul Petersen and A Minor Consideration have been sounding the alarm about North Carolina for some time.

SmartyQ said...

11/03/2008 6:31 AM Anonymous said... I cringe at the thought of living in a 4 bedroom house like theirs with the size of family they have. Close quarters can be a bit stressful!
My gosh! I grew up in a stressful situation and never knew. My three sisters and I shared two bedrooms that were not nearly so large as the tups' bedrooms, and my two brothers shared a small bedroom in a part of the basement that was finished. Their room was smaller than the twins' room. My parents' bedroom was smaller than Kon's and didn't have an attached bathroom. They must have been the most stressed out of all.

Maybe our house didn't seem so cramped because we weren't in it that much. We played outside whenever the weather allowed it, and our friends came over to play outside too. We often rode our bikes to our friends' houses to play with them and, unbeknowst to us, to stress out them and their parents.

We had slumber parties—usually at least six other girls—that must have sent my mother scrambling for the Valium to relieve her stress. I don't know what she took when she was a Cub Scout Den Mother and had the entire troop sleeping on our lawn a couple of times during the summer.

If the house is 6200 square feet and there are ten of them that works out to 620 square feet per person. That's the size of a nice one-bedroom apartment.

My parents' house was 1500 square feet, and that works out to 188 square feet per person, so we should have been stressed to the point of madness. Yet, four of us were graduated from college, but only two of us have advanced degrees. My father came to the marriage with a masters degree, and my mother acquired her doctorate when she was 50. Maybe it would have been sooner if she had not been so stressed from living in such a dinky house. Where, I add, she still lives.

quinn said...

Kids don't care about money. I grew up in an 1100 sq foot house with two siblings and I'm fine. We only had one bathroom. Now I know three kids is a lot different from eight but the point is...kids don't care about money. Jon could work full time doing whatever and Kate could work a little part time as a nurse. I'm sure they'd be fine. Then when all the kids are in school Kate could work full time again. Isn't that a "normal" thing to do? Other families with multiples seem to be able to do it.

But then again Kon says this is "normal" for their children. Well I guess whatever kids are used to could be called "normal" but that doesn't mean it's right. How about the kid who sees his parents getting drunk every night? That's completely normal for him but obviously not right.

Just the thought of exploiting children like that, having cameras follow them around 3-4 days a week, having to "work" at photo shoots and talk shows and other venues, being seen to millions of viewers...it's just awful. For the children to have no privacy and parents who have cut off so many people from them...how the h**l do they sleep at night?

Just a side note, my parents had a falling out with one of my family members. After time we were completely estranged from him and his children. I'm a grown woman, and I still think about this thing that happened about 18 years ago! It's not good to cut people out of their lives, unless there's something really horrible going on.

I just hope the Gosselin kids find excellent therapists someday. I'm not trying to joke or anything like that...I'm serious. Poor kids, and shame on you TLC!

highondegrassi said...

"Does KON get a "love offering" every time they go to Church or is that just when they do special appearances at Churches??"

I don't think they make any appearances without getting paid. They see themselves as important celebrities now, so they want to be paid to speak. They NEED to be paid now in order to afford the upkeep and mortgage on that million dollar KONpound. Their story is getting old though, so they better enjoy it why it lasts.

Anonymous said...

"Their story is getting old though, so they better enjoy it why it lasts."

Once the unveiling of their new million dollar home officially takes place what story is left for J & K to tell? Even the original premise of their reality show is non existent, and IMO has been for some time.

Anonymous said...

After looking at the picture with the long driveway, a funny visual popped in my head:

Kate with a megaphone yelling " HELLOOOOO JOOOOOOON !!! "

Anonymous said...

They did indeed move to this house. Drove by there yesterday and saw the kids out front in the yard, and the big blue van parked in the garage, and a small white box truck in the driveway (moving truck or TLC?). It's quite a house, that's for sure, but the one pictured is in fact the house they're in.

As someone else said, this house is pretty isolated. It's not a home you can easily come across, without knowing where to look, and there are no other homes on that stretch of road, but it is also in very close proximity to all the necessities.


Tracking down this isolated home is child advocacy how?

highQ said...

Thanks for answering me "highondegrassi" but what I am wondering is if anyone knows if they get the "love offerings" every Sunday at their own Church that they attend on a regular basis. I know they don't do any public appearances without getting paid, but do they get "paid" the love offerings every Sunday by the same people and same Church? (Hope my question makes sense)

Anonymous said...

I just watched the repeat of the behind the scene making of the show.

For anyone who has any doubts that they are exploiting their children, this half hour makes it very clear that they are.

If anyone thinks it is right for two grown men one with a camera and the other one with a huge mic.
hovering over a little boy playing
with a stuffed animal in bed, wow I don't know what to say.

It also shows how many of those huge studio lights are, and the queen slinging the grill down the stairs screaming "I am sick of this sh*t".

iluveeyore said...

As someone else said, this house is pretty isolated. It's not a home you can easily come across, without knowing where to look, and there are no other homes on that stretch of road, but it is also in very close proximity to all the necessities.

Tracking down this isolated home is child advocacy how?


This home is not very isolated. There are other homes around... just not as close as in their previous neighborhood.

What does the existence of this home have to do with child advocacy?

First of all, how on earth do you think they paid for this house -- Jon and Kate's charisma and great singing voices? Jon and Kate's incredible talents? There is no doubt that the home was purchased on the backs of their children! Do you think the kids have any financial interest in the home that they paid for?

Secondly, knowing that Jon and Kate can now afford a 24-acre estate has a lot to do with their basic hypocrisy -- cutting coupons and buying lay-a-way at K-Mart.

Oh what a tangled web they are weaving.

highondegrassi said...

"If anyone thinks it is right for two grown men one with a camera and the other one with a huge mic.
hovering over a little boy playing
with a stuffed animal in bed, wow I don't know what to say."

This bothers me also. I wonder how those poor kids feel having cameras shoved in their face day and night, doing what are supposed to be normal things. What an invasion of privacy! I just don't understand how Jon and Kate can justify their children living their lives under a microscope. Is the money really worth it? They should be ashamed of themselves!

Anonymous said...

The fifth picture looks nothing like the aerial photo...it doesn't look like the main house.

Is it the inlaw quarters?

The main house(in the aerial photo has a different roof line. It doesn't match picture five.

dixietrixie said...

I know this is not the proper place to post this comment, but
the Atlanta Journal online has a new blog for love or hate J&K comments. And they site GWOP.

Here's the link:
http://www.ajc.com/health/content/shared-blogs/ajc/parenting/entries/2008/10/31/love_or_hate_jo.html?cxntfid=blogs_momania

Anonymous said...

The G's are in the National Enquirer again dated November 10th.

Anonymous said...

This is probably not the best place for this comment, but seems to be where most of the traffic is right now.

Has anyone seen that Kon is in National Enquirer again? This time, they are promoting the show as one of their Best Bets-calling the show "adorable". Far cry from their previous articles. Disappointing...

Anonymous said...

Just wondering where you all were when the McCaughey septuplets were born? I saw the following and was thinking that everyone on this board would have a field day because a house was donated to this family! Wow! Go figure! They accepted it. Really not much difference than the Gosselins and anything they accept.

From the New York Times, published November 21, 1997....

...Financial worries mount as well. Perhaps not for the McCaugheys, whose fame has brought donations of a house and supplies of diapers and food. But for the parents of triplets and quadruplets, costs pile up as quickly as used diapers.

Anonymous said...

GH emailed me to inform me they are considering my letter regarding the Gosselin's in their magazine. :)

iluveeyore said...

Are you aware that the McCaugheys had to move from that house because they could not afford the upkeep?

In addition, both parents are employed.

Anonymous said...

Are you aware that the McCaugheys had to move from that house because they could not afford the upkeep?

In addition, both parents are employed.


Sorry, but this is incorrect. I live in the same county as the McCaugheys. They definitely still live in the house that was built for them. Bobbi does not work; however, Kenny works at a factory.

The difference is that most items were donated to the McCaugheys without them doing any media coverage of the septuplets. They never looked for the media-it was leaked just before the birth and donations started for them at that time. They have followed up with some specials, but do not require their children to work for the cameras 3-4 days per week. I'm not a big fan of the McCaugheys either (their stories of wonderful, calm, happy, blessed family all the time is unrealistic), but you can not compare them to the Gosselins in regards to freebies/child exploitation.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I also live in the area and they have moved in. The loan for the house was a commercial loan and the house was sold to a company. Settlement was two weeks ago and Kate made a huge fuss over the ceiling paint. I am thinking some of the money from the sale went to re-painting the ceilings.
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The house was sold to a company? Does this mean TLC purchased the estate for KON? And why a commercial loan? I am not familiar with these types of things, but wouldn't a commercial loan be a loan for a business? Do you think they bought this house to live in or to film in or both? A lot of questions, I know, but can anybody shed some light on this? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

The fifth picture looks nothing like the aerial photo...it doesn't look like the main house.

Is it the inlaw quarters?

The main house(in the aerial photo has a different roof line. It doesn't match picture five.


It is the same house!
Different seasons.

Look again carefully

Ariana said...

highondegrassi: I just don't understand how Jon and Kate can justify their children living their lives under a microscope. Is the money really worth it? They should be ashamed of themselves!

Kate makes it clear that they are doing what God has told her to do. Since she is obeying what God has spoken to her, HE has blessed her in a financial way. It's not about money for them, it's about reaching others and giving hope. Sound like a good justification??

I have no doubt that Kate is hearing voices, I just don't believe it is God who is speaking to her.

Anonymous said...

I have no doubt that Kate is hearing voices, I just don't believe it is God who is speaking to her.
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Ha ! Thanks for a good chuckle =)

mswestern said...

Are you aware that the McCaugheys had to move from that house because they could not afford the upkeep?

I believe you're thinking of the Dilleys.

momforthekids said...

The ceilings in the pictures look fine. What kind of problem could Kate have had with them?

Anonymous said...

I would imagine the film company or TLC bought the house and will classify it as a business expense for whatever tax purposes. Jon and Kate probably have some kind of contract set up so when the filming is over with (probably in 20 years!!) they will have some kind of option to buy. Who knows? I think it is safe to assume that Jon and Kate are not using one dime of their money to fund this house.

Anonymous said...

It could be that Jon and Kate have established themselves as a "business" and used their company name to buy the house. They have so many pots in the fire that I am sure they had to this, they will use the business for write offs and other expenses in addition to making major purchases.
My husband's business name is completely different than the name of his "store".

steph said...

It should be easy enough to trace the 'business' and see what type it is, who the owners, officers, benefactors (depending on the type) are, etc.

We just have to be patient until the information is public record and available in the newspaper.

I've never heard of a 'commercial' loan either. I usually hear of conventional loans which are the most common.

The wait for info on the owners of the business that owns the house is going to be a trying one - for me anyway!

Anonymous said...

Kate - You should read the bible more:

Proverbs 15:27
A greedy man brings trouble to his family, but he who hates bribes will live.

1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

Hebrews 13:5
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."


Now is the time to show TLC how discussed we are w/ the show. They are expecting high ratings for next weeks show. The lies have to stop, the explotation has to stop. They will eventually get whats coming and they will have to reap what they sow. But it won't happen until the ratings go down.

Anonymous said...

The fact that the house was acquired for the Gosselins puzzles me.

If Kon and company are monitoring GWOP, then why would they buy a house that GWOP featured? Wasn't there an internal memo to the effect of, "Whatever house we get, it'd better not be one of the ones blogged about on GWOP"?

If Kon and company were trying to get more privacy, they're not doing that great a job of it. Their new address wasn't going to stay a secret forever, but why give such big hints about the new location? Now everybody knows where to start looking.

my9cats said...

Anonymous said...
It could be that Jon and Kate have established themselves as a "business" and used their company name to buy the house. They have so many pots in the fire that I am sure they had to this, they will use the business for write offs and other expenses in addition to making major purchases.
My husband's business name is completely different than the name of his "store".

11/03/2008 8:57 PM

Good point. Martha Stewart did something similar with her homes. She is incorporated, rents her home to the business for filming purposes and writes it off. Not sure of the technicalities but that is the gist of it. A win-win for Martha. And maybe for KON.

dotsicle said...

"If Kon and company are monitoring GWOP, then why would they buy a house that GWOP featured?"

Actually, I believe GWoP found and featured it AFTER the G's had "secretly" bought it. GWoP just didn't say that it was a done deal, at first. That's the way I am seeing it.

Anonymous said...

I thought of another reason why they might have stayed in PA. If they were to uproot the kids and put them in new schools, can you IMAGINE the ridicule that the kids (especially the twins) would have to endure? By staying in their current schools, they don't have to deal with "strangers" who don't know them (aside from the show). I'm waiting for the day that J&K say that they are homeschooling the kids. Once all of them are in school full time you know there will be issues with bullying. How can there not be? Kids can be cruel even under the most normal circumstances; can you imagine what these kids will have to endure?

I'm sure their old neighbors are thrilled that they left! I wish that some of them would find this site and post their thoughts on them.

Anonymous said...

I would imagine, jon and kate bought the home in their company name. They then can "rent" it out for filming.

It was all kinds of tax benefits, and added income for them.

I'm sure their financial planner told them how to do it.

Anonymous said...

They probably did it as a sale/leaseback

Anonymous said...

Wow, beautiful home. I have no idea how they feel justified taking money from hard working people and selling $20 photos of themselves. They have absolutely ZERO integrity.

Anonymous said...

Here's a quote from page 96 of "Multiple Blessings"(read it in Target last night, did not buy it)-
"The second lesson I learned during our stay at the condo was that we actually needed surprisingly little to survive".

Gee Kate, I suppose you forgot your lessons.

Anonymous said...

thought of another reason why they might have stayed in PA. If they were to uproot the kids and put them in new schools, can you IMAGINE the ridicule that the kids (especially the twins) would have to endure? By staying in their current schools, they don't have to deal with "strangers" who don't know them (aside from the show). I'm waiting for the day that J&K say that they are homeschooling the kids. Once all of them are in school full time you know there will be issues with bullying. How can there not be? Kids can be cruel even under the most normal circumstances; can you imagine what these kids will have to endure?
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I don't think that's the reason at all. It is painfully obvious that KON don't care one bit about the kids being teased, otherwise this circus would have been stopped a long time ago. Kate herself has said that kids have said stuff to Mady, but then just dismissed it.

No. I'm quite certain that the locaation of their new home had absolutely nothing to do with the kids' bests intersts.

Lucy said...

Can you imagine the meeting with the surgeon selling the home to Jon and Kate?

Kon to the man: "What do you do for a living?"
Man: "Oh I'm a Surgeon."
Man to Jon: "What do you do to support your family?"
Jon: "Um, well. I sell out my kids childhoods for profit?"

Haha. Yeah. That's pretty much it. And pretty much sad.

Ilovemykids said...

My guess is that since Kate and Jon's name do not actually appear on the deed, they will attempt tp position this as they don't really own the house. It will be interesting to see how they "spin" this.

Anonymous said...

How can these people even get a home without jobs? Even if TLS is buying it, dont they need jobs?
Truly disgusting people.

Anonymous said...

Unless someone can get ahold of the EIN # and look up who the Beneficiaries are in the Trust Agmt then no one will know but J&K & their atty. I will say though that a likely scenario is that at the end of the contract w/ TLC and the end of the show J&K will have to option to purchase the home from the Trust or they will have to move out. I highly doubt that they can afford such accomidations since neither are working at this time, so chances are they will be moving once again.

neeruam said...

I don't think they would have any problem paying for that house. If the rumors are true that they are paid $65K per episode, and they are doing 40 episodes this year, that is $2.6 million right there. If the 65k is wrong, lets say they make $20K per episode, that is $800,000. Not a bad yearly income. But wait...lets not forget the $25,000 per church or event talk, plus those cash "love offerings". How many of those have they done? Now, Kate is doing K-mart advertising, and of course the proceeds from the book.
Jon and Kate have always lived on "OPM" (other peoples money). First, Jons' father, then the donations that poured in when the tups were born, while having a sizable savings in the bank. Now, they reportedly have TLC paying their electric bill, and probably any other house related expenses, since the show is filmed in the house. Their clothes are supplied by GAP and Gymboree. All their trips, entertainment, dinners out, etc. are paid by the show. I'll bet they are stockpiling money as fast as they get it. I'm surprised Jon is not jetting to the Caymen Islands to hide their money in off shore accounts.

Anonymous said...

I would imagine that when it comes to introducing the new house, they will just act like it's not as big of a deal as it is. There will likely be no mention of the guest house or the barn. They'll just say that they have 1 more bedroom than they do now, 1 more garage bay than now and little bit more square footage and land. They'll totally minimize it, I'm sure.

Anonymous said...

IMO, there will be versions involving the introduction of the new Gosselin house. The one that J & K give on their reality show from the couch throne ie, 'we lacked space and were so cramped in our previous home ' and the second version to the sheeple ie, 'we asked God if we truly needed a bigger home , he must have knew that we did because he blessed us with our new home'.

Anonymous said...

Neeruam has income probably within the ballpark. Fifty episodes @ $65,000 each - every six months plus at least one appearance a month @ $25,000, plus pictures and
multiple vacations a yr - hope they don't furnish the place with blue-light specials. The house must have been packed while they were making their rounds. Income a convervative $7.5m yr.
PS: Please secure the pool first.

Lonnyswife said...

Not knowing for sure how all the tax incentives would play into the purchase of this property, I would think it would be more beneficial to them if they did not pay cash for the entire amount.
They would need the tax write off of the interest,etc. to offset the freebies they should be claiming on their tax returns.

CK said...

Neeruam has income probably within the ballpark. Fifty episodes @ $65,000 each - every six months plus at least one appearance a month @ $25,000, plus pictures and
multiple vacations a yr


That's gross income, not net, though. The management company is probably getting a cut of at least the speaking fees (possibly the TV appearances & sponsorship stuff as well), and Zondervan (and Beth) will be getting part of the book income.

J&K should be paying income taxes of some sort, too. If they're considered self-employed, I think you have to pay estimated taxes on a quarterly basis (at least from what I read when DH thought about starting a business).

In the real world, there would be expenses, too - property taxes, paying for all the photos to sell, etc. TLC is prbably covering most of that, though. AT least for now. The gravy train won't last forever, and even without a mortgage, a house and acreage that size takes some time and money to keep up.

Anonymous said...

maybe they plan to enjoy it while it lasts?

(and will downsize accordingly when need be)

iluveeyore said...

From what I remember, there IS a fence around that pool... an attractive wooden fence. It is just not very close to the pool, since they have so much land to begin with. There is a nice roomy apron around the pool.

In the state where I live, a pool is considered to be an "attractive nuisance," and fences are mandatory.

Anonymous said...

I know pa requires a fence, there maybe a variance if you have so many acres....but I doubt it.

I believe the law states you must have a fence...but it's up to the home owner if you choose to fence in the whole yard or just the pool area.

alana said...

While you're doing the budget, don't forget that besides college, the children will need a lot of cash for future therapy. I am not joking. At $250-$300.00 an hour (50 mins.) by TODAY'S rates, that's a lot of spa treatments, Kate. How could you?

Anonymous said...

I have just been reading the series of comments about KON's income from the various sources. Quite frankly, I tend to doubt that KON even knows what a financial planner is - let alone that the clearly need one. They are NOT smart. They have the maturity level of a eight year old. Plus, they are mean and greedy. But, most of all, I think they truly believe that that are "above it all" and basic standards and practies simply do not apply to them because they are so "special" and, of course, they are "celebrities." The money will not last. These two are like trailer trash lottery winners who have no clue and blow through their money without a thought. I think they will eventually end up in the poor house with eight kids who aren't even speaking to them. This is just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I don't think I agree that KON is going to blow through their money. If you remember when the babies were born and Jon had no job, it was said that they had money in their savings that was given to them by Jon's father or his trust when he died. They did not want to spend that money they wanted the citizens of PA to pay for the tups and their needs. I am sure along the way someone has told them that they need a financial planner to help them with their money and how to get tax write offs etc. If they think it would benefit them to have a financial planner I am sure they would get one.

Anonymous said...

Have you noticed as she gets more and more, KON expresses her "gratitude" less and less ???

Anonymous said...

I think Jon and Kate are truly greedy and that is why they will continue with the shows (probably forever) even though it is having a negative impact on the kids. I also think they are hoarding away a lot of money--not so they can save for college. They'll try to get aid or better yet--a handout from a university willing to foot the bill for all 6 of the little kids. They'll continue to peddle them as some kind of a novelty act or freak show to wring out more freebies. J&K want the money for themselves and think it is the responsibility of everyone else in society to foot the bill for their kids. I agree that J&K are dense, but I also think Kate is very shrewd when it comes to money and socking away, so I'm sure they have a financial planner or someone who is finding every possible loophole for them and their stacks and stacks of cash. Jon, on the other hand, is a dope and is just along for the ride.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Jon and Kate are expressing their gratitude less and less the more they are given, simply because they feel "entitled". They probably also think they are now "celebrities" and the little people among the masses are of no use to them, unless they can pony up the speaker's fee at the churches or can give them a free vacation. I suspect they will be trying to find a private plane for the next vacation. They'll explain that it was just too hard to travel among the common folk.

mollybloom said...

Dear Anon 10:28,

Fear not. This show has a limited run, as do all reality TV shows. Even the big shows like American Idol and Survivor are fading. As the children grow, and every vacation spot has been exploited, the show will die. I think that Jon and Kate--even as two of the dullest adults ever filmed--know this. That's why the books, videos, product endorsements, etc. It's a case of striking while the iron is hot.

Anonymous said...

Yes, every show does eventually exhaust itself, but I don't see this one going anywhere soon. We can look forward to the twins starting high school, their first dates, learning to drive, applying to college and the cycle repeats with the tups. When they've done all of the big trips in the US, there is always Europe and Asia and an African safari! LOL. It really and truly could be endless if the kids don't stage a mutiny before then.

Anonymous said...

For the kids sake, I would hate to see Jon and Kate get dumped by the show and struggle to find a way to pay for everything. After all, they are innocent in all of this.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see the very first family reality show. "The Louds" It was in 1973 and was very interesting. The children were older but it showed all the huge dysfunction of the family. There have been many articles of the follow up on them and it all turned out very sadly. They also talked about how damaging it was to be on camera all the time.

One of the sons died of a drug overdose, the parents divorced. It was a mess.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone seen the Kons at the Konpound??? Just curious!

Anonymous said...

Wow, beautiful home. I have no idea how they feel justified taking money from hard working people and selling $20 photos of themselves. They have absolutely ZERO integrity.

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I have no idea how they feel justified using their eight children to provide an income for themselves! Who do Jon and Kate think they are to use their children like this? The children's basic needs should be met by the parents' employment and the money the children are earning should be invested for their future, including college. It should not be at Jon and Kate's disposal for their every greedy whim. Get a job people! Just because the government isn't cutting your checks doesn't mean you aren't welfare queens.

wendimail said...

I just watched the sideshow of the house and it is really lovely. The grounds are beautiful. So, this is where they are now. Wow. They must really be pulling in big bucks.

Along with all the grounds and house comes an equal amount of maintenance and upkeep. Better buy a tractor. Poor Jon trying to keep it up to Kate's standards. Are they going to install industrial lighting in this new home?

This development will be interesting to watch unfold on the show. I may need a large bag of popcorn and a large glass of wine to settle into the Kate narrative of their latest "blessing". :-)

MargaritaHour said...

I thought they were having a home built? So do we know for sure this is the house they bought? $1.3 mil. Wow. Just wow. I don't see how they can, in good conscience, justify the purchase of this home when it wasn't funded through work (in the traditional sense).

These kids (especially the 'tups) probably have no idea that they aren't living like everyone else. They probably think that EVERYONE has cameras that follow them around and gets to go on Hawaiian vacations and amusement parks and get to bake cupcakes at a bakery that closed down just for them! They are the ones I feel bad for. They are the most adorable little things, yet they are going to end up ostrasized because of their parents and what this show has ended up doing to them.

Anonymous said...

The home and acreage are very nice. I just hope that the kids get to enjoy it especially by being outside and being allowed to play and get a little dirty.

My family has moved once - from a nice sized home and lot to a little bigger home in a neighborhood where all of the lots are around 1/2 acre to 1 acre (very similar to the neighborhood the Gosselins were living in). We moved to such a neighborhood when our kids were around 4 +/- so that they had room to play - ride bikes and run around the yard. Sometimes I wish we didn't have such a large yard, driveway, and sidewalks (corner lot) to keep up with (mow, clear snow, etc) and sometimes I wish we had an acreage. However, our current home is ideal for the kids because they have the room to play but also have neighbor kids around to play with. If we had stayed in the old home, they wouldn't have the space; if we would move to an acreage, they wouldn't have neighborhood kids close enough to walk out the back door and play with.

The Gosselins should have been happy where they were if the parents hadn't sold their privacy. I'm afraid if this is the new house, the parents will continue to sell their privacy to the world but keep their kids isolated from anyone that lives in their area. That is such a weird way to live - be put on display for people but not be allowed to interact with people. I guess that is what greed can do and has done to the Gosselins.

Now I'm not saying that you cannot live on an acreage and also play with other kids. It just makes it harder and I don't see the Gosselins making that happen.

One last thing. I think that Jon and Kate have gotten so caught up in milking this for all it's worth because they have an insatiable appetite for being above everyone else (and at the same time getting there with the least effort). I hate to say it but no matter how long this goes on, they will never be on top. Beth's home/acreage is bigger and more lavish. One of the closest (not within walking distance) neighbors of this property, is even more lavish than Beth's. And yes, this is all public information.

Anonymous said...

How are they paying the taxes for the house, trips, and all of the untold freebies? Is everything in TLC's name so they can pay all of this for them. They can't have that kind of money laying around. The speaking engagements provide some income, but is it that much. Is all of their food, other necessities provided or do they have to come up with that also? School tuition?

quinn said...

I wonder if Kon is going to repeat themselves again and again when talking about why they bought this house (like they justified their "time-change" issue in San Diego) They cannot even ask for donations or "love-offerings" anymore after moving into a 1.7 million dollar home, right? Please tell me they won't.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
For the kids sake, I would hate to see Jon and Kate get dumped by the show and struggle to find a way to pay for everything. After all, they are innocent in all of this.

It's not TLC's responsibility to carry J & K's financial burden forever and ever. If the show gets cancelled, OH WELL J & K will just have to either join the masses standing in the unemployment line or heaven forbid GET a JOB!

Anonymous said...

I commented on here yesterday but I have no idea why it wasn't let through. Maybe I didn't actually hit send or something. What I asked was: Is this going to be their new house? Has it been confirmed? I'll tell you one thing: they're not going be able to complain about money problems once they start filming here. Some please answer! Thank you.

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