New Episode - "Mr. Mom" October 13, 2008

When Kate heads out of town for a few days Jon gets to do things his way, but will he be able to survive without Kate's help or will he come out of this experience with a new-found appreciation for his wife? And can he get eight kids to school on time?

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Anonymous said...

Why not? He does 99% of getting them ready anyhow.

Anonymous said...

"Was Jon able to survive without Kate's help?' Are you kidding? Hasn't it always been this way? He was likely glad to have her gone.

Anonymous said...

hahahaha! can he survive without Kate's help? you mean like he does every DAY? when has Kate ever helped anyone except Kate?

Christian_N_Daniel_Mommy said...

If I were Jon I would have been so offended by that description of this episode. Doesn't he do 99% of the leg work anyway? He is the one getting the kids up and ready for school every morning while Kate is still snoozing like a Queen Bee until probably 11 a.m. Why would he have problems getting them up and out? If anything he'd probably do BETTER with that nag gone!

Anonymous said...

So what is the difference between this and every other day in this family's life? Kate is lying in bed somewhere else instead of at the Gosselin home?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I'd think it be easier with Kate gone. Then he doesn't have to make her coffee or wait on her.

Anonymous said...

When Jon can take care of all these kids without the help of a nanny, a boatload of volunteers, a maid, laundry serve,and a cateering service, then maybe, maybe there would be something to see.

As it sounds, this will just be a typical day in the life of Jon Gosselin.

*YAWN*

At least maybe the boys got some peace without Kate yelling at them while she was holding Favorite Hannah.

Anne said...

My bet she is gone to go get her wedding dress, I didnt watch the "say yes to the dress" show but I wonder if this will be edited any different from that one if in fact it is why she is gone. Will Jon survive, heck its a mini vactaion for him and the kids, no slapping no verbal abuse, I bet they have a grand ole time.

Anonymous said...

True. He doesn't have to make her coffee or take her crap. He will thrive without Kate's help.

Ilovemykids said...

Thanks for the laugh this morning!! I'll just bet Jon loved the time away from Kate - no yelling, no insults, no drama.

Anonymous said...

So Jon will have to pour the cereal into the bowls all by himself? He does everything else every day anyway. What an insulting episode description. I am sure this will be full of dramatics about how hard it is for poor Jon to handle the kids all by himself, being only a man and all.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

I agree that the kids will probably be a little more relaxed without Kate there. We see Jon getting everyone ready in the mornings while Kate stands in the kitchen in her robe drinking coffee barking orders. I guess they are running out of story lines and have to create some drama for the episode. Hopefully, Jon will brush the girl tups hair out of their faces. Every week I just want to grab my brush and hair clips and just reach through the tv and fix their hair!

I just love the kids..... said...

I say there be big damage control. Jon will be saying," I don't know how Kate does it". I think this might be a way to try to make others look like poor Kate and maybe more favorable on her. I for one agree that Jon does it all and the kids will love the break from the yelling and berating. Who knows? Maybe they will be able to make mudpies!!!

Anonymous said...

This 'Mr. Mom' episode is really a a setup to mislead the viewers in to believing that Jon is somehow the less competent caregiver of the two and subject to failure in the absence of Kate. Jon is a full time stay at home dad. Wasnt the reason for Jon quitting his job so that he could be at home and a more hands on parent? Why wouldnt Jon be able to fulfill the task at hand its his JOB - he is a full time stay at home dad and as witnessed episode after episode he is responsible for 95% of the hands on caregiving. Even with Kate being away, Jon will NOT be without help. Since it is a filming day there is a personal chef preparing the meals, it is the 'goal' of the production crew (per Kate) to assist them when the opportunity presents itself, and most certainly Jenny will be on stand by. At this point, if Jon, the full time stay at home dad, cannot manage to fulfill his parental responsiblities in the absence of Kate, perhaps he should look in to obtaining work outside the home! Whatever TLC.

melissa said...

I am a divorced mom. I raise my 3 children alone. One of my children goes to chemo Dr. at least 2 times a week. I WORK. and I pretty much do all of the house work. I do all of my own yard work(I have 10 acres). How they can make it such a big deal for a man to take care of his children is beyond me. I run my kids to soccer I go to EVERY school function. This is what being a perent is. When I had children I never thought I would be doing it alone , but that is just how life worked out for me.(ex-husband is not involved with the children at all)

HW said...

Yes, this will be a HUGE vacation for Jon and the kids. The boys won't be told their "icky" and maybe poor Mady will even smile.

However, when Kate returns, Jon will be made miserable. You can bet she won't allow anybody to think he did it well, let alone better than she can. Of course she never does it on her own but she seems to think she does.

Hambone said...

Oh, you know the man will play it up that he can't do this by himself ( even though he can ). He knows darn well if he makes it look easy, Kate will rip his balls away again for making her look bad. He knows he will never hear the end of it if he makes this look easy. Why bother having a show if this is easy? He'll purposefully be a ninny so Kate will feel needed.

I am a teacher. I have 25-30 kids by myself for 8 hours a day. It always kills me that they make such a big deal out of having to manage 8 kids. You just lay down the law and do it.

ThreeFarmers said...

That's true. When Kate returns, I'll bet all she'll do is harp on what Jon did wrong.

Anonymous said...

TLC = The
Lame
Channel

Anonymous said...

I am just not getting this episode description at ALL. So when Kate is away, Jon gets to do this HIS way? That doesnt say much for the J & K approach to team parenting. It was my understanding that J & K were advocates of consistency and routine. Why would the household function any differently while Kate is away? Jon is a full time stay at home dad, certainly by now he has a basic understanding of the day in and day out functions of the family routine. The children shouldnt be of the impression that when Mommy is away, suddenly the rules change and things are done 'Daddy's way'. Way to go TLC. What a great way to support the mentality of good guy (dad) vs bad guy (mom) in your episode description. As viewers, are we to expect/assume that this full time stay at home dad is not of the capacity to effectively care for his children and household while Kate is away for a mere few days?

Judy said...

Melissa~ I am so sorry to hear about your sick child. You will be in my thoughts/prayers.
Do you have any outside help? You are a perfect example of someone who could really use some support and help.
I guess this is what bugs me about Jon and Kate. They are Christians who are taking, taking, taking...and barely giving back.
They could use their wealth to really help people...and they dont....Ughh...

Anonymous said...

Say it ain't so, a Dad has to take care of all of his children while Mom is away. How dreadful.

I agree with everyone who says this is damage control and that this episode will make it appear that Jon can't handle the kids all by himself (although we know that isn't the case at all). Kate Irene would NEVER allow that, now would she? She is SUPERMOM! NOT! :)

Anonymous said...

What peace will ensue in that house without big bad Kate? I'm sure Jon will be calm and happy and the kids will not know what hit them.

Aunt Connie said...

Jon will probably yearn for those good old days when he used to go to work, away from his at-home job. Who in their right mind would rather be in Kate's presence day in and day out than to leave each morning and return each evening? How in the world can J & K stand each other 24/7?

Anonymous said...

I say they're grasping at straws as to what they can come up with for a show. Good lord - next I suppose they'll have Jon and Kate picking out toilet paper or something equally as stupid

Anonymous said...

Aunt Connie said...

Jon will probably yearn for those good old days when he used to go to work,


Ha! Are you joking? The thought of having to go out and make a living probably makes him sick to his stomach.

Anonymous said...

Wow, the passion in these posts and the epi hasn't even aired yet! LOL I will be here right after the show to get the recap, as I have successfully weaned myself from watching the show( my first epi that I did not watch or record was last week's GH photo shoot)

TLC really must think ALL the viewers are idiots with extremely short, selective memories. We here at GWOP know that Jon does nearly all of the caretaking anyway(which he should, he is a stay-at-home Dad)it is evident in every episode. How is this epi anything new?

Anonymous said...

I think this topic is hysterical!! Kate is a supervisor to Jon. She barks at him to do this and that, and she never lifts a finger. He will enjoy the solitude of her being gone a few days, as I am sure the kids will be able to relax a bit, without her harping on them to stay clean or whatever demand she has at the moment.

This show is just ridiculous!!

Anonymous said...

I hope Kate let Jon run the at-home-show without multiple, condescending lists and belittling phone calls, at least we know the home phone has caller ID. I also hope Jon made the most of all their free time. Can you imagine having to put up with Kate and her craziness all.the.time?

In my perfect world, I'd deploy Kate overseas for a 1 year tour-of-duty. She could be an RN-I'd even keep her out of harm's way, so that she'd come back intact. She could learn what both hard work and exhaustion really are..

Anonymous said...

Well with all the hired help I say Jon should get along just fine! Heck those kids would probably be better off if Jon and Kate left!

Anonymous said...

So she's not even going to be in this episode? Maybe it won't be too bad then!

Anonymous said...

This is off the topic...besides, we all know what the score is on who does the caregiving in the Gosselin Household. My thought: Jon and Kate would definitely be divorced by now if they didn't have this show with all the freebies and money which makes their life easier. BUT-has there been any new family sightings or comments about the new website lately? Just wondering.

Anonymous said...

This is more of the same idiotic strict gender roles that are the hallmark of the Gosselin family. Of course, a man can be a good parent -- and you don't need to call him Mom in order to identify him as the primary caregiver.

It's the same baloney as only boys like to golf or go to baseball games -- and only girls like to do art projects. I assume that Kate has never heard of Rembrandt or even Norman Rockwell?

The underlying premise of this episode is insulting to both men and women.

Ravello said...

Any semi regular viewer of this show is laughing out loud at the title and premise of this episode. Jon is the primary caregiver and has been for some time. The kids look to him for love and affection and when someone is hurt or crying they run to Jon. These kids are always crying they want Daddy. I dont recall even Hannah crying much for Mom.
I agree with previous posters, it may be a scripted episode with the emphasis on damage control. Kate's imamge has taken quite a beating, the more we have seen of her the more shrewish and remote she seems.
And we know both parents benefit from paid household help. The help that TLC tries to hide.

I give Jon credit for being the more loving, hands on parent.

Anonymous said...

I hope he takes them to McD and buyes them all Happy Meals. Then lets them play on the unsanitary play equipment in BARE feet! The kids will love it!

Anonymous said...

I think a better episode would have bene KATE being home with the kids while JON goes away. "Mr. Mom" (aka Jon the real mom) is nothing new in that house. It's what Jon does everyday right? It's sad how bad they're scraping the barrel for show ideas.

Anonymous said...

There was a show on MTV called; True Life, I'm a single parent. One of the stories was about a 25 year old man with six kids, a ten year old, five year old twins, and three year old triplets. Of the six only one was a girl. His wife could'nt handle it and left. I think his mom takes care of the kids when he is at work. He says it's tough, but would have it no other way. Makes Jon and Kates job look easy.

Anonymous said...

This is more of the same idiotic strict gender roles that are the hallmark of the Gosselin family.

Funny, for people that hold to archaic gender stereotypes, the "man-as-breadwinner/head-of-the-household" role is conspicuously absent.

Anonymous said...

Yes, this will be a HUGE vacation for Jon and the kids. The boys won't be told their "icky" and maybe poor Mady will even smile.
The reason Mady is not the happiest child is because of the cameras. Not Kate.
Mady won't smile until the cameras are gone. It has nothing to do with if Kate is there or not- shocking, I know, but I actually think Mady loves her mommy.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

I saw that same MTV episode about Nick the 25 year old single father of six. He was amazing and although he was stressed he never freaked out on the kids. I give that guy major props.

The OP had a great point. Maybe Kate will just have a small role tonight and we can all enjoy the show.

Sara said...

There was a show on MTV called; True Life, I'm a single parent. One of the stories was about a 25 year old man with six kids, a ten year old, five year old twins, and three year old triplets. Of the six only one was a girl. His wife could'nt handle it and left. I think his mom takes care of the kids when he is at work. He says it's tough, but would have it no other way. Makes Jon and Kates job look easy.

I saw that too, and I was just trying to explain it to my husband. I couldn't even imagine the stress level that guy has!

hellokitty said...

There was a show on MTV called; True Life, I'm a single parent. One of the stories was about a 25 year old man with six kids, a ten year old, five year old twins, and three year old triplets. Of the six only one was a girl. His wife could'nt handle it and left. I think his mom takes care of the kids when he is at work. He says it's tough, but would have it no other way. Makes Jon and Kates job look easy.

I saw that too! We only saw this guy for about 15-17 minutes total (since they followed others), but in that span I actually saw him read a book to his kids. Unlike another family...

Anonymous said...

I made it to 9:03 and then Kate said something sarcastic so I decided I would rather do laundry.

Anonymous said...

Well, first few minutes, and we all know that Kate went to WORK..lol Wonder how many times they'll say it during the show, and an infomercial, how many times they'll mention the brown bag thingy.

A Mom-ynous said...

Odd thing I noticed--the calendar was blurred out.

I found it weird but noticed in other scenes it wasn't. I guess they have now privatized their schedule which is a good thing.
But they had never blurred it out before.

Anonymous said...

I think Jon has "cotton balls" for man parts. I don't think it's cute when kids act like that and Kate musters tears for the camera. I'm sorry, after watching Little People Big World and what they are doing with their earnings, I think this show is so beyond cheesy and stupid. Those children act out to satisfy Kates need to be in control and add "spice" to the episodes. It has nothing to do with her so called "control freak" status.. That's just her image she likes to project to get attention. Classic.;(

Anonymous said...

Yup they blurred out their scheduled and there was a shot of Jon closing the bathroom door when it was time to bath the smaller kids.

Lots of talk about nutrition and Kate leaving a nutritious meal, etc..

westmemphisgirl said...

I'm sorry Hannah is a little bratty acting. She screams way too much and has a sassy mouth. I guess if I had my life played on tv and I worked for a living at 4 I'd have an attitude too.

nicole said...

It seems that Alexis now sleeps with her sisters, that's nice to see I guess.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or did the kids seem happier in this episdoe ?

A Mom-ynous said...

Another weirdness...

I notice a continuity problem...wasn't the twin wearing the green shirt on the first day, but the video project was on the second day? Could be my imagination but I don't feel like going backwards.

Also--they didn't show one twin on the home video. In fact, I barely notice her this episode. Perhaps she no longer wishes to be filmed and her wishes are being granted?

A Mom-ynous said...

I concur on LPBW. After watching that show this evening (WOW!)--watching JK+8 is a bit difficult b/c you can see the good one family is doing (and they've kind of always done but can do much more now with the publicity of course) and then we have JK+8.

It makes me sad in a way. I do enjoy the family and hope they turn a corner before they jump the shark.

guinevere said...

I thought it was great that Jon said he wouldn't take the girl to the hospital if she fell and got cut. Good for him. Way to be a parent... NOT.

I may have to rethink my stance about Jon and Kate.

A Mom-yous said...

Not too bad of an episode.

I enjoyed that the children were joyful and being enjoyed.

Disappointed that the preview for the next episode coming up in 5 seconds shows that they did take the cameras to the pre-school.

noteventhetrees said...

I have to say that I enjoyed this episode. Way to go, Jon! The kids (and him) really seemed to have fun in this episode. Being able to play without getting in trouble. It was nice to see them playing in the back yard. Also - all I could think of during the "art project" was that it seemed like Jon was teaching pre-school himself! Maybe that's just the teacher in me... Life goes on without Kate! Lordy be!!

Anonymous said...

A couple of things I noticed on this episode:
1. It was much calmer and less yelling. Jon can be firm with the kids without screaming at them. Plus, his butt isn't stuck in a chair while they are playing, he actually plays with them.
2. The mums on their kitchen table..they are from WAL MART!!!! I have several of the exact some ones, they came in a basket. I noticed it right away. Of course, the could be left over from the GH shoot, I can't imagine Kate going to walmart.
3. The kids were wearing shoes IN THE HOUSE!!! I though there was a strict no shoes in the house rule.
4. At the end, Kate tried to get Jon to say he realized how much work she does around the house. He would say it, at least right away. He said something like she does as much as I do or they do the same amount or something like that. Finally, she nagged him into saying what she wanted.
5. Also, like a PP, I noticed the door shutting to the bathroom when he was going to give the kids a shower.

Anonymous said...

Was it me or did Kate seem to be happier and less sarcastic? It was probably an act to improve her image...or maybe she was interviewed after being away, so she wasn't as "tired" from "working" so hard!

Anonymous said...

After much research this weekend, I was very upset with this show and TLC. So much so I emailed them. I recieved a response today. I told TLC that after having read the PA newspaper artical from Kate back when the sextuplets were born and all the stories about how she gets free clothes, free food and on and on that the show is now basically a lie. There is a huge difference between, we are blessed to have such things to help out with the costs and praise God for it, and saying..we have nothing, we have no help, it's all on us to raise this family so on and so forth but the above is still very much true. That if any of the above is true, it's no longer a documentery or reality tv, it's a lie and they are duping viewers who feel sorry for htem and do not know the above truths. People who freely of their own hearts believe things like Birthday and Christmas is hard and send gifts. Tlc wrote back and said we appreciate your thoughts and the subject matter you brought up we take very seriously. There for we have forwarded your email to the directors and those in charge of programing. They also said please be advised that though the show is supposed to be a documentary it is always shot in the view of the director. So..is it the director who is saying that jon and kate need help and can't support the kids and have no money and Christmas is hard and on and on or is it that they don't want to lose their top rated show and want to keep kate happy by showing everyone HER reality??

Anonymous said...

and usually jon doesn't bother me, but telling Hannah that if she falls, he's NOT taking her to the hospitaly, oh well??!! What kinda crap is that??

and Kate in the next episode..she's just insulting and rude! She totally belittles him and says he's worthless?? let's see her do any of it without him? OH wait..she could TLC pays for her to have hired help or she ships her kids off to preschool an hour away lol

nettey said...

Was Mady in the home video at all?

Anonymous said...

yeah! All 6 kids had green on they day dad took them to school. Could it be that they were happy and content?
I noticed Mady wasn't on camera till the end also. Perhaps since she doesn't like it and is so crabby in front of it, they got smart and realized taht she shouldn't "have" to be on camera just cause everyone else does. Good for her to have a choice.
As for Jon telling the younger girl he is not taking her to the hospital. The deal was she was standing on the stool. That was dangerous and I figure he was telling her it was her choice to stand on the stool, which is dangerous, therefore if you do not sit down and you end up falling, I warned you ahead of time. I also see she stood up when he turned around but quickly sat down when he turned around. She was being disrespectful and not following rules.
I did like how Jon kept his cool. I think the kids had a great time. I've never seen Kate help the kids do an art project or make films for Dad when he is away. Oh yeah, a long time ago they did stickers on a sheet of paper for dad.
Anyway, that woman is so full of herself and thinks no one can do what she does/doesn't do. And what is up with the new hairdo? It had some funky shades going on with the side. Ugh.

Anonymous said...

westmemphisgirl:
I'm sorry Hannah is a little bratty acting. She screams way too much and has a sassy mouth. I guess if I had my life played on tv and I worked for a living at 4 I'd have an attitude too.


No, I think it's just being 4 and perhaps being a favorite. I have a camera-less 4 year old cousin and she is quite the diva with a (bratty) attitude. She's also the baby and practically a ruler in that house @_@

Anon, 7:01
and usually jon doesn't bother me, but telling Hannah that if she falls, he's NOT taking her to the hospitaly, oh well??!! What kinda crap is that??


Heheh... I've heard that before. He's not serious, but I guess it's a little harsh sounding. It was the kind of empty threat we didn't take seriously, but it did make us stop (til we got older tehee!).

But yeah, I liked this ep. They remind me of a lot of kids I work with, and making it harder for me to choose middle school kids over pre-k xP

Anonymous said...

and usually jon doesn't bother me, but telling Hannah that if she falls, he's NOT taking her to the hospitaly, oh well??!! What kinda crap is that??
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That seemed to be to be a normal thing a parent tells a kid who is doing something foolish without thinking of the consequences.

If Hannah actually fell off the stool and was badly injured, of course he'd take her to the hospital, but his aim was to convince her that what she was doing was dangerous and that it would be her own fault if she got hurt.

You'll remember that just seconds later when he had his back turned she stood on the stool again, so it's likely that she's been asked in gentle terms before but still likes to be a smart-alec about it. He's just trying a different tack.

trivialityofthesand said...

Is it just me or did the kids seem happier in this episdoe ?

Must have been fed Luna bars before filming.

Lonnyswife said...

I noticed Kate invented another new word---stample...as in:
"Boy tup dropped paper and girl tup stampled on it"

Lauren said...

Hannah really is her mother's daughter.

And Jon's eye-rolling is obnoxious.

LoriP said...

Overall this episode wasn't bad. It was nice just to see Jon taking care of the kids himself and how relaxed it was around the house. Yes, I'm sure he was exhausted by the end of the day (I'm a single mom to 2 kids and I know I'm exhusted by the end of the day LOL) but he still got up with the kids in the morning and was kind, gentle and a pretty good dad with them.

The only thing that I didn't like was at the end with Kate trying to get him to say she did everything and he did nothing. What a bold face lie and what a witch (but with a b) for trying to get him to admit it. He just proved you, and to all of America, that your 'job' really isn't all that tough.

Anonymous said...

Hmm..well, when my 3 yr old continues to attempt dangerous stunts when she has been warned time and again, I also tell her that if she falls I'm not going to help her and to not come running to me to take care of it. Some kids don't listen no matter what and will continue to do what they are not supposed to. Letting them know they can't run to you crying when they get hurt is just another way to warn them. Of course, if they really do fall, it's probably a different story.

Anonymous said...

Lots of talk about nutrition and Kate leaving a nutritious meal, etc..

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Speaking of nutrition, I don't think I have EVER seen the kids being offered milk. Are they all lactose intolerant, allergic, what?
I can imagine that some of the kids may not like milk (like my 3yo) but some kids love milk (like my 10yo). All I ever see the kids drink are gallons of Juicy Juice, which is not organic, IIRC......

Anonymous said...

And Jon's eye-rolling is obnoxious.


Why do you say that? Every time Kate opens her mouth I roll my eyes and mutter shut the...well you get the gist

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or did the kids seem happier in this episdoe ?

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Of course they were happier- Kate was not home.

A Mom-ynous said...

"Speaking of nutrition, I don't think I have EVER seen the kids being offered milk. Are they all lactose intolerant, allergic, what?
I can imagine that some of the kids may not like milk (like my 3yo) but some kids love milk (like my 10yo). All I ever see the kids drink are gallons of Juicy Juice, which is not organic, IIRC......"


I cannot stand milk. My kiddos float between rice, soy, and cow's milk. I don't force it, I try to get some of it in. But they get their calcium via yogurt and cheese and other things as well.

But I do recall on the shopping episode (the infamous one with the TRU berating she gave Jon) and she very distinctly said that she NEVER buys milk unless it is on sale. Now surely she probably can stock up. She also said on their website of FAQ that due to editing, her comments in that episode pertained to that specific store but seemed as though it was their shopping as a whole, so perhaps she just meant at that market for milk purchases, I have no idea.

Also--you can find plenty of data to support that humans do not need a dairy product that was intended to bulk up a baby cow into a huge heifer or bull in a short period of time.

We can get calcium from plenty other sources.

So while I don't knock that we do not see any milk consumption. I just wanted to point out that calcium can be obtained in other foods and that she made the one comment that led me to believe that they don't have milk in the house in great quanitities unless it was on sale.

Anonymous said...

I just started watching the repeat and already can't stand it. Its just 2 minutes after the hour. Kate is 'working' on a brown bag campaign. "Its what they do." What the hell.

Things that bugged me: Jon: "I don't follow Kate's rules." Good job at parenting together. Kate: "Jon isn't as nutritionally inclined as me"

AmandaT said...

Did anyone else almost choke at the away on a "business trip" thing? She was promoting brown-bag lunches. "It's so us." Yes, Kate, keep saying you're poor. I think she really does believe that she is a supermom to an extent that all other mothers should take her advice. I, personally, would have been lost if Kate hadn't told me how to make a PB and banana sandwich.

AmandaT said...

Wow. Now I am convinced. It's sooo hard to take care of those kids. They really did need to both quit their jobs and earn their money by selling their childrens' privacy, dignity, and chance at a more normal childhood. After all, society allowed for them to have 8 kids, and if they only had 3 they would travel every other weekend, have designer handbags, take frequent spa trips, and have a staff of nannies, chef, and housekeeper. So society should pay for those things, too. And if not, the children must be exploited in order to obtain that lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

Of course Jon will survive, this isn't any different than any other day. He does all of this every day of the week, he just didn't get screamed at while doing it for 3 days. Funny how happy and drama free the kids are when Kate isn't there to scream at everyone and create a constant problem. I noticed the girls had mismatched hair ties in their hair and Jon managed to pull Hannah's hair out of her face.

I can't believe that Kate said they didn't have people beating down the doors to help them. What a slap in the face to the volunteers who spent hours and hours and hours doing everything for them.

And did the interview chair segments seem unnaturally bright tonight? How many lights did they have shining on them?

Judy said...

I haven't watched an episode in a while but this one really disturbed me.

1. Why did Kate freak out about the cut on one of the tups when she left all 8 of them SICK for several days when John got hair plugs!!??

2. Why did Kate say over and over she missed her kids so much and how hard it is to be away...or better yet, why did they (TLC) focus on Kate and the kids being separated when Jon and Kate have left them NUMEROUS times without hearing all this mush about them being separated.

3. The "No wonder people aren't knocking down our door to help" was a HUGE slap in the face to Jodi and all the volunteers...Why would they even mention that?

4. Backyard shots? Really? Now? I find it way too coincidental that after so much talk of them always being in the front that now they are being shot in the backyard?

The whole episode smelled of damage control :(

nita said...

When Jon was videotaping the kids making their journal projects for Kate, he asked "Who's Mommy's buddy?" It broke my heart to see Alexis point to Hannah. I can't imagine my boys doing that. I suppose in the re-runs they will edit that out.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Mom? Puh-lease! This was just "A Day in the Life of Jon". What exactly does Kate do except bark orders and crate chaos? (Oh, I forgot serving up those meals from craft services and the personal chef.) Actually the household seemed remarkably calm and the only child noticeably acting up was the one to whom Kate shows extreme favoritism: Hannah. Jon seemed to enjoy playing with his children without the screaming shrew on his case all day long. The "icky" boys actually received the same attention as their sisters! Kate, if your children are more balanced without you around, perhaps you need to take a long hard look at your behavior. The camera isn't lying.

allison parker said...

nita said...
When Jon was videotaping the kids making their journal projects for Kate, he asked "Who's Mommy's buddy?" It broke my heart to see Alexis point to Hannah. I can't imagine my boys doing that. I suppose in the re-runs they will edit that out.

10/13/2008 9:54 PM

I don't think Alexis was pointing to Hannah. She was raising her hand as well as the others, then she pointed to her puppy stuffed toy.

I did not watch it at 8 but I recorded it and just watched it now. I enjoyed this episode because the kids are getting so bigger. They are so cute.
I did not enjoy Hannah being a brat. I know she is four and mom's favorite but that should be corrected at an early age.

I did not see anything wrong with Jon saying he is not going to take Hannah to the hospital in case she falls. Of course he didn't mean that! It is what you call reverse psychology. Hannah is trying to disobey his rules anyway by standing again on the stool.

I also noticed that Jon has said more at the couch, rather than just letting Kate talk all the time. I think Kate tried to control herself, but she can't. At the end, why did she have to force Jon by touching his mouth like that? She is so rude.

I guess this was some sort of damage control, which is good. At least they care about what we notice. I hope they are doing the damage control because they realized that they need correcting, not to just appease the viewers.
Damage control in the sense that Alexis sleeps now with her sisters, damage control that the kids say "I love you", that they say that their mom cook and prepare food for them, that their mom reads books for them, etc.

Oh, one more thing, I am getting sick of Kate's legs!

sabrinasmom said...

Where was Mady?

I think this episode was an excuse to say they both need to stay home.

Anonymous said...

I did'nt watch this episode and feel so much better this morning. I realize I just cannot stand Kate on the couch anymore.

I heard in posts that they took the cameras to the pre-school. The line continues to be crossed.

I watche LPBW and was inspired by their giving back. I made me sick to watch the J&K8 commercials with Kate saying "the kids have a good life and we do, of course, because of them." Go away J&K8, the gig is up. It was cute to watch up until they were 3, but when you took that vacation to NC and showed the extravagant lifestyle you lead, and the kids just shot up and look like school age children, that should have been the last episode.

You all have to stop watching this, its the only way they will stop putting those kids on camera.

Anonymous said...

I thought that the G. kids aren't allowed to watch T.V. but there is a T.V. in the little girls room and it was turned on when Jon turned off the lights and put the girls to bed.

Anonymous said...

The damage control campaign is in full force once again!

Anonymous said...

The thing that bugs me with these new episodes (since the National Enquirer article came out) is the obvious damage control going on.

Plus the fact that they are editing out every.single.bad.scene. of Jon and Kate. There are not showing any complaining, whining, fighting, etc. THAT IS THE REALITY OF JON & KATE! Don't the producers get that? That is what made this show what it is. Kate being a bitch and the viewers out there that can relate to that and the treatment of Jon.

So now they have replaced that with someone we all know is not Kate (nice) and put in there this plastic Kate and Jon. It is so not believeable. Smile Kate. Love the boys Kate. Show affection Kate. Don't yell Jon. Smile Jon. Love one another Jon and Kate. It's not them...and it shows. They are now "acting" - and it's obvious.

And the kids?! These kids (sorry!) are not cute or adorable nor do they say cute or adorable things anymore. They are acting more like Mady and Cara and less like cute little toddlers saying and doing cute little things. Sad but true.

This show will tank on it's own. It's just not sellable anymore. And the more they try to "fake" it and act nice and happy to one another, the more it will look fake and contrived, just like it did last night.

Anonymous said...

No Aunt Jodi, no Beth, just Jon and Kate and Jon and Kate and six kids who aren't adorable and chubby and toddler-y anymore (where was Mady and Cara??) and all about Jon and Kate and Jon and Kate. BORING! Does it just look like they're reaching for show ideas or is that the reality of the show now? Did I say BORING? BORING!!!!

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that Kate pretty much admitted that all she does is meals. She said that Jon does all the playing/entertaining of the kids while she's preparing the meals. Add that to the fact that we know Jon's "chores" in the mornings before school and in the evenings before bed and all you're really left with is meals.


Also, have you noticed that the kids only play in the backyard with Jon? Even dating all the way back to that first snowfall episode when they were 2 (I think). We have NEVER seen Kate take them back there by herself. I guess there's no chair back there?

guessimnotsuchanavidshrewwatcher said...

I could really get into more episodes of "Jon + Eight!" Sure, four year olds will whine and do balancing acts on the stool in the kitchen when you aren't looking but, to me, that's what made this episode so much better! The kids (all eight of them) were being kids, not the little robots the Shrew turns them into. Even Mady seemed in a better mood. I enjoyed Jon joking with her about getting seven ice cream cones out for dessert! Please, TLC, less Shrew!

Anonymous said...

OH! I almost forgot. The lunch that Jon made... what the...? A small slice of cheese, a small slice of apple, some crackers with peanut butter and maybe some more bits and pieces we didn't see. I seriosly just don't understand. This is the exact type of lunch we have seen Kate prepare in the past. Why can't these kids ever have a meal at lunch? It's just so strange to me. I guess it fills them up? But why does it have to be so snack like? When they are in school full time, can you imagine the size of their lunch boxes just to fit all those tid bits into separate containers? And of course the boxes will need a special bib compartment.

Anonymous said...

In response to: Things that bugged me: Jon: "I don't follow Kate's rules." Good job at parenting together. Kate: "Jon isn't as nutritionally inclined as me"

I didnt watch this episode. But can someone please explain to me what 'nutritionally inclined' means? Does Kate have some natural ability to #1 deviate from the horizontal or vertical #2 dispose or be disposed; tend #3 to lower head ; nod over that of Jon when it comes to nutrition? Is being 'nutritionally inclined such as me' ( Kate ) a good thing? Whenever Kate attempts to boost her own ego at the expense of Jon she accomplishes quite the opposite 'nutritionally inclined as me' makes absolutely no sense grammatically or otherwise.

Anonymous said...

The backyard is now fenced in. Also, the swingset has been added on to. I think it was originally a climbing wall, 2 or 3 swings, and a fort, now there is an extra set of swings and a bigger fort.

Anonymous said...

This episode was such a complete crock. Jon took care of the 8 kids by himself for several days. Right. We believe that. No helpers, assistants, meals prepared by craft services, nothing like that. Sure.

Minus the commercials and repetitions, this episode had about 8 minutes of footage. That's likely the same time Jon actually spent tending to the kids by himself.

And except for a quick shot of Mady from a rear-side view, she was absent the entire show. Think that's because she said she wanted out and they respect her? Dream on. Probably she wasn't being cooperative and they had a production meeting and decided to edit her out. I bet they even told her they were giving her a "time out" from the show until she learns to act like a team player, so even though she might hate the cameras, for a bright, attention-starved 8 year old, that would be a perfect psychological way to manipulate her.

sabrinasmom said...

I had some time to think about my statement. Last night after I watched the episode, I felt that Mady was being excluded from this episode.

I realize you cannot have it both ways. Mady has not always been filmed in her best moments, so maybe it is a good thing that she is not being shown.

Maybe it's just me - but I remember when my daughter was that age, I fed her more protein. The tups are fed tidbits, IMO. It didn't help that the next episode focused on weight, etc.

Once again, I know that the scene was not filmed in its entirety, but why was Hannah protesting her meal, while Jon narrated the "no dessert" policy, next scene Hannah had an ice cream cone with everyone else?

I also loved at the beginning when he explains Kate's absence, "business trip" indeed - I think she was in New York getting her dress.

Maybe she was in New York for an audition - I heard the Flock of Seagulls are looking for a new lead singer, that would explain the hair.

Anonymous said...

But can someone please explain to me what 'nutritionally inclined' means?

It doesn't mean anything. Mind you this is coming from the same woman who says things like "stampled" and "froofily poofily".

Linda said...

I could barely watch the beginning of the epi - Jon tells us multiple times in the same sentence that Kate is out of town for work, she's on a business trip - yeah right! Turned the channel - couldn't stomach it. Turned back the channel & there's Katie telling us that she was speaking about her "job" - telling everyone about "Brown Bagging It" - cuz as she says "they're all about that". Oh barf!

Linda said...

Anonymous said: "But can someone please explain to me what 'nutritionally inclined' means?"

Nutrition comes naturally to her - she's "all about that". Like Brown Bagging lunch!

Barbara said...

I liked this show. I always did like the ones where they were just at home and following them around their everyday lives. I liked Kate viewing the video Jon made for her and I believe she was sincerely happy about that. They looked like they were having fun with Jon and the fort and in the back yard.

Anonymous said...

I can't stomach a full 30 minutes of this show, but I caught a little while surfing in a vain attempt to find something else. I had to chuckle when Kate said she was promoting brown bagging because it's what they do. Huh? When exactly does she make all these portable lunches and for whom? Also I take some issue to Jon's seeming to encourage the kids to beat up on each other (well, not really "beat up"), but I think those kids need to learn to keep their hands to themselves before somebody really has to go to the hospital.

Anonymous said...

Also--you can find plenty of data to support that humans do not need a dairy product that was intended to bulk up a baby cow into a huge heifer or bull in a short period of time.

We can get calcium from plenty other sources.

So while I don't knock that we do not see any milk consumption. I just wanted to point out that calcium can be obtained in other foods and that she made the one comment that led me to believe that they don't have milk in the house in great quanitities unless it was on sale.

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Maybe she doesn't buy milk because she hasn't found a store/company to give it to her for free.

Yes, there are plenty of other sources of calcium, but I tend to think that , when possible, and in normal quantities, milk is good for growing children. (especially versus gallons of sugary juice)

Anonymous said...

Re: when the kids were talking to the camera and saying "I Love You" and " I Miss You" I couldn't help but chuckle and think to myself that the kids maybe thought they were sending a message to Jodi or Beth ?

Anonymous said...

I only clicked over from watching old Lost episodes but was able to see Jon really having normal fun with Aaden and sort of playing dodge ball with the kids in the backyard. Now that is normal. That is something I've seen all my life with dads (and moms) and their kids. Jon can do this on his own. The kids can be kids and hopefully normal adults in time. Get rid of Kate!!! Give your kids a break!!!

Anonymous said...

But I do recall on the shopping episode (the infamous one with the TRU berating she gave Jon) and she very distinctly said that she NEVER buys milk unless it is on sale"

What about the boxes and boxes of cereal they supposedly consume per week? I know they put milk on their cereal. I hve seen Kate preparing her "special recipe". lol.

Anonymous said...

They do have milk in the house. There was one episode where Hannah went to time out because she didn't want milk in her cereal. They couldn't eat 25 boxes (sarcasm intended) of cereal a day without it

Anonymous said...

A handful of things bothered me about this episode:

1. Kate had the audacity to suggest that no one wanted to help them. Who exactly was she talking about: the volunteers that she voluntarily forced from her home or the family that she ignores?

2. Jon called Kate's sojourn a "business trip." It's high time that they publicly acknowledge that the state of their finances has changed. Perhaps, they could even feign some gratitude to the public at large for it.

3. The kids seemed infinitely lighter and less anxious without their mother, which was so refreshing to see.

4. I actually felt pity for Kate when she broke down. I'm sure that she's not accustomed to being called a good parent, even if this entire episode did have the distinct flavor of a PR stunt. Because she teared up so quickly (after being gone for only a couple days), I think that the public outrage and lack of support from family and friends must truly be a burden.

Forgive them, for they know not what they do...right?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
But I do recall on the shopping episode (the infamous one with the TRU berating she gave Jon) and she very distinctly said that she NEVER buys milk unless it is on sale"

What about the boxes and boxes of cereal they supposedly consume per week? I know they put milk on their cereal. I hve seen Kate preparing her "special recipe". lol.

10/14/2008 8:58 AM

In one of Kate's PR team promoted interviews of recent, The Gosselin family reportedly eat 3 boxes of cereal a day , a loaf of bread at dinner time, and 3 gallons of milk a week.

Anonymous said...

Milk goes on sale? Can't say that I see that very often.

Anonymous said...

I only caught the last few minutes of the tups and preschool episode while waiting for a new episode of Diners, Drive Ins, and Dives to start.
Kate was rambling about the red, yellow, and green dot behavior stickers the tups get at school. She commented on how one of the tups received a 'not so good' report that day because a paper fell on the floor and one of the tups stepped on it. She proceeded in her parental wisdom to explain that a sibling is more apt to step on the work of another sibling than that of a fellow classmate. Fellow sibling, or fellow classmate the idea of intentionally destroying another person's property SHOULD be and IS totally unacceptable. Kate should refrain from justifying the tups unacceptable behaviors using the 'sibling rivalry' and HOM excuse and simply teach the children the 'golden rule', do unto others as you wish them to do unto you'. Fellow siblings included!

Anonymous said...

Milk goes on sale? Can't say that I see that very often.

We have milk on sale quite often around here.

Anonymous said...

I always get this sad, sick feeling after watching one of these shows. I think it's just how I feel about what the parents are doing to these kids. They just don't get it. The whole thing is so sad.

Thalia Menninger said...

"In my perfect world, I'd deploy Kate overseas for a 1 year tour-of-duty. She could be an RN-I'd even keep her out of harm's way, so that she'd come back intact. She could learn what both hard work and exhaustion really are.."

Nominated for Comment Of The Week

Anonymous said...

I think the episode was ALL phoney baloney.
First off, as everyone knows, aside from the tons of help that they have in the home....Jon is well able to take care of these kids WITHOUT her.
The same CANNOT be said of HER. I'd like to see the episode where HE goes away for 3 days and SHE takes care of them. She has to call him and shriek everytime someone gets a boo boo.
He is always catering to her and her demands and fulfilling more than half of the job on his own. Boy, I'd like to see HER bathe and shampoo everyone, for instance.
So, the show was useless. It was slanted to make SOME people believe that she is so needed and such a super mom. The whole ploy of filming the kids, and they filmed one another for Kate....they may have carried that camera around and tried it; but the footage was simply filmed and doctored up to look like it was their home video. The regular crew gave us that footage.
The whole show attempted to demonstrate how much she is needed and how the home can't run without her. We all know that she is not very active in their care.
Then the thing that REALLY upset me was MORE damage control at the kids' check up. One hit the other....and as you know, EVERYONE has blogged and written and complained about the never-ending hitting.....and when Jon took a casual attitude, saying "Oh you're all right..." She had to chastise him and harp on how hitting was not to be allowed.
THREE YEARS too late, Kate.
Obviously, everything the bloggers comment on, they have tried to address in the past 5 or 6 shows.
Too little, too late.
They are PHONIES.

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah...some who live nearby say that the pre-school is ONE HALF an hour away.
They always say it's a whole hour.
Did you notice that the film said 10 a.m., two hours before school?
Then he said they got into the van at about 11:15 and they are usually about 15 minutes early for school?
Then he said even if they don't get going till 11:30, they STILL make it on time.
So much for the hour away lie.

Anonymous said...

Thalia Menninger said...

"In my perfect world, I'd deploy Kate overseas for a 1 year tour-of-duty. She could be an RN-I'd even keep her out of harm's way, so that she'd come back intact. She could learn what both hard work and exhaustion really are.."

Nominated for Comment Of The Week


The last thing I'd do would be to subject our wounded soldiers to Kate. Maybe send her to Gitmo to interrogate prisoners. Seems like it would be right up her alley.

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate looked particularly "airbrushed" on the couch on this episode. Yes, I do agree that the lighting tweaked and illuminated them unlike they have been in the past.

I was just wondering about Kate's hair. Her bangs are going out of control and starting to be a whacked-out bob.

themrs said...

I noticed a few things that are different when kate is not present.
1. Jon plays with the kids and lets them make messes.
2. Jon manages to accomplish most things without yelling or sarcasm.
3. Jon did comment at the end of the day that he was tired, but did not go ON AnD ON about how exhausted he was.
4.The kids got to do "normal" kid stuff like make a fort and play in the Back yard.

Anonymous said...

They do have milk in the house. There was one episode where Hannah went to time out because she didn't want milk in her cereal. They couldn't eat 25 boxes (sarcasm intended) of cereal a day without it

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Oh, right, I remember this episode as well. So, yes, they do get milk with their cereal. I just wonder why they never DRINK milk with their meals(if possible, if the kids like milk. My own toddler doesn't like it, my older boy loves it). Maybe I am old school thinking that ........

Anonymous said...

I was wondering: the little ones don't nap anymore, and on this epi Jon states that they still have quiet time after lunch. Fast forward and I think Jon said something like it was past 3 - he had to start preparing for dinner. So the kids were in their rooms for 2 hours doing what? I think rest/quiet time is great and much needed for little ones, but sticking them in their rooms for 2 hours to do nothing - am I mistaken ?

I don't want to negate Jon's efforts. Even though we all know that he has a lot of unseen help, he really is great with the kids and they seem to love being with him.

Anonymous said...

These two new episodes reeked of damage control, imo.

1.Kate's affection toward the boys - especially Joel. Too little, too late. We already know how she really feels about the boys.
2. Kate's "business trip." See, everybody. We do support our kids and even go away for business. Once again, too little, too late (and a lunch box campaign, come on, couldn't they do better than that)??
3. The Dessert Explanation: Obviously Jon and Kate are aware of the backlash following cupcake gate. Did you notice how this time it was Hannah who was being refused dessert for not eating her dinner? And then they cut to a shot of one or two of the boys enjoying theirs? This was followed by Jon's long explanation of how they must always stick to their no dinner/no dessert rules and that other families do this too? Only problem - during the cupcake episode, it was their BIRTHDAY!!! And, the chosen daughter was given her dessert, despite not finishing her dinner.

Good try, but we've have already seen the truth.

Thalia Menninger said...

Those weird little lunches that they serve those children just seem wasteful to me, somehow. If you're going to have cheese and crackers for lunch, have cheese and crackers. Not a bit of cheese, one cracker, two and a half grapes, and three milimeters of an apple slice.

How would you put a "lunch" like that in a brown bag, anyway? Really, this whole brown bag spiel is SO the doing of a PR firm. "Hey, I've got an idea that will get you more more more (now that your kids aren't as cute) AND rehab your tarnished image: you'll be the spokeslady for brown-bagging it! See? You're one of the unwashed masses, too! You empathize!"

I could come up with forty different lunches for those children that are better, more nutritious, and more filling, and I don't have any kids.

Anonymous said...

I could not believe how product placement-y that 'harvest chicken' was that they kept showing/talking about. This was either: a)prepared by their organic chef for Jon to warm up or: b)one of Kate's supposed special recipes that will end up in her book. I can see it now..sheeple will write and say, "Oh gosh! What was that yummy harvest chicken I saw? Please share the recipe!" And Kate will respond, "You have to buy my book" Blecch!

Anonymous said...

I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!

Anonymous said...

westmemphisgirl said...
I'm sorry Hannah is a little bratty acting. She screams way too much and has a sassy mouth. I guess if I had my life played on tv and I worked for a living at 4 I'd have an attitude too.

I thought this was a blog to stand up for the children, not to insult them.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I could not believe how product placement-y that 'harvest chicken' was that they kept showing/talking about. This was either: a)prepared by their organic chef for Jon to warm up or: b)one of Kate's supposed special recipes that will end up in her book. I can see it now..sheeple will write and say, "Oh gosh! What was that yummy harvest chicken I saw? Please share the recipe!" And Kate will respond, "You have to buy my book" Blecch!

10/14/2008 12:29 PM

All anyone has to do is do a quick google search for Harvest Chicken and they will find the recipe. IMO, if Kate does publish a cook book it will be comprised of all the old stand by pass around casserole dishes that have been in existance for years, and seen at every church gathering, family reunion, baby/bridal shower generations over. The shelves at Borders and Barnes and Noble are lined with 100's of these pantry casserole/ meals made from Campbell Cream soup type recipe books. Kate's meal ideas are about as original and inspiring as her PBJ sandwich cut on a diagonal.

iluveeyore said...

I have one big question about this show. In the "3 days" that Kate was gone, WHO did the kids' hair? Their parts were much more even than when Kate supposedly does it. Kate herself has said that she isn't good at it. I'm positive that Jon didn't do it.

So who did the girls' hair while Kate was away "on business."

buddhadoesntdeliver said...

I thought this was a blog to stand up for the children, not to insult them.

According to some other sites it is ok to describe the children's behavior - that is not necessarily insulting the child.

Anonymous said...

Funny, but Hannah being told that she wouldn't get dessert if she didn't eat her veggies made me think immediately of damage control because of what I assume was the tremendous backlash of that terrible moment of the boys not getting their little BD cupcakes, and particularly little Aaden when it dawned on him that he wasn't getting his, saying "I'm not getting my cupcake?" with that sweet face.

I'm not buying the new and improved Kon. She's as oily as a used car salesman and he's not far behind.

Hannah is not to blame entirely for her attitude. She has been spoonfed this superiority BS from Kate from day one. How could she be otherwise than bratty and entitled acting?

Anonymous said...

I have to say that after watching the new episode of "Little People, Big World," I found this show even more sad and pathetic than normal. Yes, the Roloffs do get some freebies as a result of their show, but to see Matt put himself on a plane to Iraq...what a difference.

There was a promo for J&K+8 running during LPBW which featured Kate saying, "Our kids have a great life, and because of them WE have a great life." Yeah...no kidding! Great life=teeth whitening, hair transplant, free trips, etc.

Sad...just sad.

buddhadoesntdeliver said...

The last thing I'd do would be to subject our wounded soldiers to Kate. Maybe send her to Gitmo to interrogate prisoners. Seems like it would be right up her alley.

"WHO gives gum to prisoners?!!!!!!"

Anonymous said...

"So who did the girls' hair while Kate was away "on business."

Who do you think did their hair? Their hair stylist of course. Don't think there weren't many helpers lurking in the background. This show is now a big production with a lot of staging. Gone are the days of "a day in the life."

Anonymous said...

I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!

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Ok, so I DID really hear that. Jon is so very ignorant and uneducated , it's insulting.

Anonymous said...

I watche LPBW and was inspired by their giving back. I made me sick to watch the J&K8 commercials with Kate saying "the kids have a good life and we do, of course, because of them." Go away J&K8, the gig is up. It was cute to watch up until they were 3, but when you took that vacation to NC and showed the extravagant lifestyle you lead, and the kids just shot up and look like school age children, that should have been the last episode.

You all have to stop watching this, its the only way they will stop putting those kids on camera.



I absolutly agree with this!! I am in total agreement with just about all of your comments and viewpoints but the only way this will have a chance of going off the air is if you all stop watching! It does seem a little hypocritical to be making comments like "take this show off the air", and "protect the children", and then you all tune in each week. Is is just me? From a moral standpoint, I stopped watching weeks ago and I invite you all to join me.

Anonymous said...

What I found disturbing about the Mr. Mom episode, is when Jon was encouraging the kids to beat up on their siblings. If this behavior is encouraged, even without letting it go too far, the kids will think it's okay to take it further or to behave that way in school. I find Jon to be very immature. But then, so are most grown men...

ThreeFarmers said...

I don't want to negate Jon's efforts. Even though we all know that he has a lot of unseen help, he really is great with the kids and they seem to love being with him.


Yeah, he's great with kids as long as you ignore that whole exploiting-them-for-money thing.

Anonymous said...

As far as their hair being done for TV...of course they have a stylist working there.
My relative models and there is a stylist who fixes her hair before the photoshoots. And this is a weekly series, not just a half hour photo shoot.
Regarding the naps. Kon will have to say bye bye to those, because they said the kids are in school for a couple of hours in the afternoon.
Gone are the days that they can feed them at 12 or 12:30, then put them in their rooms until 3 or 3:30.
One more thing:
They are FOUR AND A HALF.
LOSE THE BIBS, KATE AND JON!

ep said...

I haven't read all the comments so I don't know if this has been mentioned.

Out of all things, the thing that stuck out to me the most in this episode? Jon closing the door when he went to bathe the kids. I said out loud "It's about time!" Give those kids some privacy when they are getting a bath and going potty. They may be 'only 4' but they are four, not 1. I'd hate to be a teen and look back and see me on the toilet or in the shower.

Okay enough rambling about that, but I also want to say that when I saw the video camera being taken around the house (I'd never let a 4 year old carry around an expensive video camera by the way...), I said to myself, 'That's how it should be!' - Home video, not Public video.

Anonymous said...

Nominated for comment of the week:
Maybe she was in New York for an audition - I heard the Flock of Seagulls are looking for a new lead singer, that would explain the hair.
"And I ran, I ran so far away..."

Thalia Menninger said...

Sure enough, I checked my cookbook that was compiled by the womenfolk in my family for my wedding shower, and there are TWO "Harvest Chicken" recipes: one that is made in a slow cooker, and the other that is a cold salad dish that is "suitable for potlucks" (LOL!)

I haven't made these dishes in years, and I really should, because it's family history, and it's autumn. And is always the case with family-created recipes, passed down from generation to generation, the food that results is wonderful.

Gosselin kids, all grown up, eating Harvest Chicken: "Mmmmm, just like Mom's personal organic chef and craft services used to make."

Anonymous said...

It seems Mady finally got her wish to be left alone for once. I'm glad for her! Aside for a quick shot in the kitchen and the back of her head when Kate came back home, she was totally absent from the show. Maybe someone can correct me, but when Jon was showing her his "harvest chicken" and said he was cooking for seven kids, I thought I heard Mady question, "Seven?" and the two kind of traded glances. I took it as Mady writing herself off from all the filming that was taking place that week.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!
OMG, I'm so glad I didn't see this show or I'd have gone through the TV to zip his ignorant lips! So Jon if the terrorists dive bomb your house it's because you choose to give your life for us? Lucky not even the terrorist want to be near you. Ugh, such stupid people.
Kate should refrain from justifying the tups unacceptable behaviors using the 'sibling rivalry' and HOM excuse and simply teach the children the 'golden rule', do unto others as you wish them to do unto you'. Fellow siblings included! Well from the looks of Jon and Kate neither of them have a clue as to the Golden Rule. So neither are able to teach the children correct behavior because they haven't a clue as to correct behavior themselves.
In one of Kate's PR team promoted interviews of recent, The Gosselin family reportedly eat 3 boxes of cereal a day , a loaf of bread at dinner time, and 3 gallons of milk a week. So what do they do to make enough milk to last for all that cereal they eat because it was a lot more then 3 boxes in the article she made for the grain people. Waters it down? In that case I don't blame the one that wanted dry cereal, blergh to watery milk.
And the kids?! These kids (sorry!) are not cute or adorable nor do they say cute or adorable things anymore. They are acting more like Mady and Cara and less like cute little toddlers saying and doing cute little things. Sad but true. Not so sad, not matter that mom and dad won't let them stop with the sippie cups, bibs and naps they are bound by destiny to grow and age. Good for them be able to do so without help from the greedy mommy and daddy and gravy train hoppers. And I found them uncute, uncuddly many moons ago since I never found the whining, bratty,snotty,hitting and so on amusing or entertaining. I'd watch paint dry before I watch another episode but I do like to hear what ignorant damage control they try to pull each week now that they realize the jig is up.

noteventhetrees said...

Anonymous 10/14/2006 11:03AM said:
The last thing I'd do would be to subject our wounded soldiers to Kate. Maybe send her to Gitmo to interrogate prisoners. Seems like it would be right up her alley.

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Nah, my cousin is stationed at GTMO right now... I wouldn't want to put him through that.

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!

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Ok, so I DID really hear that. Jon is so very ignorant and uneducated , it's insulting.

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I think he was moreso referring to the fact that 9/11 was the leading factor in the start of the war in Iraq, where soldiers are fighting and dying (purportedly for us).

9/11 has also become something of a veteran's holiday in addition to a memorial for those who died in the World Trade Centre buildings attack. I don't think Jon was being ignorant, I think he just didn't word what he meant clearly enough.

thenagainamajoreditoroftheoedwasinsane said...

But can someone please explain to me what 'nutritionally inclined' means?

It doesn't mean anything. Mind you this is coming from the same woman who says things like "stampled" and "froofily poofily".

While I can't vouch for the latter two silly words, "inclined" also refers to a preference or tendency toward something.

Kate has lots of issues, but her made up words (or real words that people don't understand) aren't that big a deal. Come on--most writers make up words by fusing or borrowing from other known words. Kate is no writer of course, but English lexicon is constantly being changed by popular usage. Can't we keep this conversation on her parenting, the kids, the ethics of the show?

MomOfThree said...

On THIS ep-i-sode of "Jon and Eight-Kate"....Was it me or was the usual tension of that household that seems to ooze from the TV, gone? Jon and the kids seemed so relaxed and actually appeared to enjoy each other's company! Jon let them be kids, with forts and backyard play and messy art projects! Lordy be, all their moods seemed lighter. Kate should be the one to work "full time" and Jon would probably do better if he "quit the job to stay home full time with the kids". It would still "be a crazy life" but it really WOULD be "their life" with no cameras, crew or traveling to promote the family business.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!
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I know what you mean. It is always shocking when this kind of crap comes out of the mouths of KON. But then, I know I have come to expect it from them. It doesn't even shock me anymore. Just makes me ask: how can two stupid, uneducated, backward, lazy, dipshit, hicks keep this frigging show going? Their horrible qualities seem to be the brand they are marketing. And it's working! Maybe this major round of appearances as "media darlings" will be the end of them. The kids are no longer "cute" (by TV standards); every episode is boring and predictable, and they really have nothing more to offer. The sheeple are moving away from the flock slowly but surely. I hate them.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure why TLC wants us to think this would be so hard for him. He does it all anyway. He is the one who showers them, he is the one who dresses them, Kate make him take them to the potty whenever they are out somewhere, and he is the one that listens to them and plays with them! It's just baffling to me!
Also, did I hear her say at the end, "It's a wonder we don't have people knocking down our door to help us."? What is that about? I believe they have help all the time, the only difference is that now TLC has to pay strangers to do it b/c they have driven away anyone who truly cares!

Maggie said...

I am not going to second guess what motivation inspired Jon to put out flags for 9/11 and whether that is something that means a lot to them. I would assume it does, I am not that cynical. I thought it was a nice idea, and a good way to teach the children some recent history.

If I am wrong, and the production team or their P.R. camp "made them do it", that is fine, too, it was a nice example, and makes me wish I had done something like that. Next year I will.

Anonymous said...

Helloooo....Kate was in New York to film "Say Yes to the Dress". Didn't anyone see her on that show this past weekend picking out a dress for their vow renewals? That show is filmed at Kleinfelds (sp?) in Brooklyn.

Anonymous said...

"Kate is no writer of course, but English lexicon is constantly being changed by popular usage. Can't we keep this conversation on her parenting, the kids, the ethics of the show?"
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No. We like making fun of her slaughter of the English language. And because she is an uneducated slug, we are unable to allow her any poetic license with her made up words.

Anonymous said...

Kate made dinner my aunt Fanny. I just saw the professional transport containers on the counter. Thank you Jon. Those are the things the local chef/food delivery person here uses and you give them back with the washed casserole dishes.

Anonymous said...

I am no fan of Jon and Kate but in their defense, if you google "Kate Gosselin Brown Bag Lunch" you will see that she is affiliated with some company promoting brown bag lunches so it is very possible that she was in New York on a "business trip". I don't think she was shopping for her dress because it seemed as though the tups had already started school by the time the episode was filmed. (It was Sept 11, so the vow renewal had already occurred.)

I, for one, am glad to see less of the twins in this episode. I think that being on camera at their age is a bigger impact than on the tups. It is nice to see they are having a break from "working".

My hope for this show is that after they move to NC they start to decrease the number of episodes per year, gradually (or suddenly!) moving to specials or even disappearing from TV altogether. Jon and Kate can probably do speaking engagements for their fans for many years to come.

sabrinasmom said...

No. We like making fun of her slaughter of the English language. And because she is an uneducated slug, we are unable to allow her any poetic license with her made up words.

Sorry, I was the one who brought up the topic.

Actually, "nutritionally inclined" is an acceptable term. It's more of a(n) euphemism for "healthy" or "nutritious" or even "diet conscious".

Kate is one of those kinds of people who like to use big words - maybe to impress, but the usage is never in the correct context so it sounds dumb.

I am applying this theory to the way she talks, but I suppose it could be applied to Kate in general:

I am surprised that she doesn't censor herself more. Either she is oblivious to how stupid she sounds or she has the biggest balls in the world (insert Jon Joke here) and just doesn't give a hoot about how she comes off.

I am undecided on that one - I don't think she's the brightest bulb in the box, but I think she feels like she is above everyone or everything and that's why she doesn't care if she comes off badly.

IMO

Thalia Menninger said...

I'm quite sure that the sheeple who so adore KON think that putting out flags to remember 9/11 was the proper gesture to be made. It's Klassic KON, if you will: the bare minimum, based on someone else's spin and version of the "facts."

How about having the children, phenomenon that they are, visit a veterans' home? The older folks might get a kick out of seeing the young people, and now our veterans' homes also have soldiers who were permanently disabled (destroyed) over in Iraq, too. Maybe the children can learn the terrible lesson that so many of our nation's children have been forced to learn: war means death, destruction, and endless sadness. It is more than just sticking a flag in the ground.

I say this as the sister of a soldier who was killed over in Iraq in 2007. No comments about his bravery, his sacrifice, OMG! I'm sorry, etc., necessary.

Anonymous said...

I think he was moreso referring to the fact that 9/11 was the leading factor in the start of the war in Iraq, where soldiers are fighting and dying (purportedly for us).

9/11 has also become something of a veteran's holiday in addition to a memorial for those who died in the World Trade Centre buildings attack. I don't think Jon was being ignorant, I think he just didn't word what he meant clearly enough.
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I respectfully disagree. If Jon wants to tell his kids about 9/11 and why it is so important to honor and remember all who were affected, he should have his facts straight.

Rosey in Washington said...

Ep said...

" but I also want to say that when I saw the video camera being taken around the house (I'd never let a 4 year old carry around an expensive video camera by the way...), I said to myself, 'That's how it should be!' - Home video, not Public video."


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I completely agree, but did you also notice that when Hannah was carrying around the video camera and looked back at jon he said, "You have to look like Kevin." (Who of course is the camera man for their show), and Hannah said, "NO! I don't want to!"
Interesting...maybe the tups are starting to voice their opinions about being on the show and being on camera all the time.

The thing that bugged me MOST about this episode was the very end when Kate was trying to make Jon say that she was SO needed, and that he realized how much she did...but I loved it that he called her on it, and said "Take 21, Take 22." I thought that was priceless, pretty much making it obvious that he has to rehearse praising Kate. Blahhh... I can not stand Kate and her huge ego.

Rosey in Washington said...

Thalia Megginger Said...

"I'm quite sure that the sheeple who so adore KON think that putting out flags to remember 9/11 was the proper gesture to be made. It's Klassic KON, if you will: the bare minimum, based on someone else's spin and version of the "facts.""

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I complete agree with you. PUtting out the flags is REALLY the LEAST they could do, and if you listen when Jon talks about putting the flags up and September 11th Kate says, "Its the least we could do."

Did anyone else see that??

Also, I think the whole "home video for mommy" was SUCH a HUGE damage control/PR stunt. She had to literally TRY to make herself cry...and to be honest, I dont think she really was even crying. And of course Jon had to mention it so EVERYONE watching could see, "Look you're getting emotional."
Well, if Kate actually DID get emotional about the video instead of just faking like she cared about it, Jon wouldnt of had to make a comment about "her getting emotional" because it would have been obvious.

All this show has turned into is a huge DAMAGE CONTROL stunt. Its becoming obvious that Jon and Kate really do read our comments and are trying to "retaliate" in a very quiet, non-chalant way, but of course we can see that they are really being obvious about it.

Oh yeah and the whole comment that Kate made about, "No wonder we dont have people breaking down our doors to help us" was just intended to be a HUGE slap in the face to Jodi, Beth, and every other single person that used to help them alot but it no longer in their life. She can be such a witch (with a B)!

lifeoriley said...

Two things about this episode stuck out for me:
1. J&K saying that no one was banging down their door to help them--HUH? What about Jodi, Beth, Nana Joan, Nana Janet, and other volunteers that have helped over the years? If only paid help is in their lives now, it's J&K's own doing.
2. When Jon talked about 9/11 and people "giving their lives," I cringed. I knew he was going to get flak for that, even though I think it was just his poor attempt at explaining the attack to the kids. The victims of that day had their lives TAKEN by terrorists--but maybe he didn't think the kids would understand it.
My husband and I also fly the flag on 9/11--in memory of the people who were killed that day and in memory of those soldiers who have been killed in Iraq.

ThreeFarmers said...


I complete agree with you. PUtting out the flags is REALLY the LEAST they could do, and if you listen when Jon talks about putting the flags up and September 11th Kate says, "Its the least we could do."


Too bad people aren't allow to drive by or look at their house long enough to appreciate such patriotism.

Anne said...

I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!

Alright, I'm sorry to beat a dead duck, but I feel that I have to defend Jon. (I'm fighting to to faint at the fact that I wrote those words.)
While Jon certainly did mess up what he was trying to say, in its current context, it could be considered proper. On Flight 93, those people on the airplane gave their lives when they decided to rush the terrorist that had taken over the plane. There were also numerous incidences of those people who went into the World Trade Center who died when it fell. It would be disrespectfulnot to say that these people didn't give up their lives. Perhaps this is what Jon was going for. I don't know, but may be Jon had actually thought before he spoke rather than Kate who seems to speak and never think.

Anonymous said...

"Helloooo....Kate was in New York to film "Say Yes to the Dress". Didn't anyone see her on that show this past weekend picking out a dress for their vow renewals?"
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She was not at Kleinfeld's. The Hawaii trip was in August and on the Kleinfeld's episode, she said she was renewing her vows in two months and needed the dress by then. So, based on this statement, she would have had to have gone to Kleinfeld's in June.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!
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I think Jon was referring to the fact that many of our troops went to war and did give their lives in defending our country because of what had happened to us on 911. He taught his children about respect for the troops. Least this was my take on it.
What happened on the cupcake thing? I saw a few posts about that event with Joel and a cupcake, was it 4th bday? I am going to have to see it now.

Anonymous said...

"I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!"




What about all of the firefighters and police officers that did give their lives?!?!
He may not have gotten across what he wanted to say in the best way. But come on. This falls into the category of attacking things just to attack.

Anonymous said...

Although I noticed a lot of people didn't like Jon's comments, for instance to Hannah, that he wouldn't take her to the hospital if she got hurt after being warned...I didn't take it too much to heart.
He may have been right or wrong...but I think he was trying to be firm with her, especially when she didn't want to eat her vegetables. It showed her later with dessert, and I assume she did what he told her.
She could probably benefit from Jon's fun attitude when he is on his own, along with his rules.
She acted up a few times, and I could distinctly see Mady in her...not only in her expressions, but in her words and behavior, too.
Kate is creating a lot of turmoil in that house with her personality and parenting style.

Anonymous said...

All of their damage control backfires.
This episode showed that those kids are better off without Kate around.
She should go get a job and be out of the house more.

Anonymous said...

After watching these last couple of episodes (Back to School and Mr Mom) I definately see KON relating to one another in a different way. Maybe it's damage control (which was much needed after CupcakeGate and Going South) or maybe, just maybe, they saw themselves on TV and the nasty way they interacted with one another and decided to make some changes in their relationship. Maybe this is a rocky path in a marriage straightening out and growing???

Anonymous said...

I just saw the GH cover of the family and have two questions.First, what is the deal with Cara's fingernails? And second, is it just me, or does it look like all the girls had their hair highlighted?

Anonymous said...

This show is sandwiched between 2 awesome families! The Roloffs are down to earth and genuine! They stay true to themselves and find ways to give back to others. Then you have the Duggers with almost 18 kids! Everything runs like clock work and the kids know what is and isn't expected of them. They have a blast and they don't need to hit each other to get their way. Both shows are different from each other, but such a contrast (as far as parenting) to the Gosselins. The Gosselins are like a runaway train going full speed. People watch..waiting for it to crash.
I also have to say..I too am so sick of seeing Kate's legs during the couch sessions! Someone turn the AC on!

ThankYou said...

The best damage control of all?
Kate's white plastic chair was gone and she was sitting on the floor of the garage. That really cracked me up! Will they auction the "famous chair" on eBay for charity? Stay tuned!

macokjc said...

As far as the milk comment goes: They live in the state of PA (as do I). Milk prices are regulated by the state and it NEVER goes on sale.

Anonymous said...

I think all the comments regarding the kids better off without Kate/Kate should be gone more often/Kate needs to get a job so the kids will be away from her more often- these comments are terrible. How can you say that these kids would be better of without their mother. As flawed as Kate may be, she is still their MOTHER and these children need her.

allison parker said...

I can't believe I heard Jon say this when they were talking about putting the flags out to commemorate 9/11.

"We still remember that your family members gave their lives for us."

Are you kidding me? This wasn't a war! These people were MURDERED by terrorists! They did not give their lives for KON or anyone else! I can't believe he would say something so stupid and offensive!
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In Jon's defense, some of the people in one plane fought with the terrorists so the terrorists won't hit their target destination. Some of the firefighters died saving other people trapped in the twin towers. Jon was not taking about his family members literally but the other Americans that were saved.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think all the comments regarding the kids better off without Kate/Kate should be gone more often/Kate needs to get a job so the kids will be away from her more often- these comments are terrible. How can you say that these kids would be better of without their mother. As flawed as Kate may be, she is still their MOTHER and these children need her.

You're right! Though Kate may not be the model parent (who is?) and may not love her children in the way that some people see fit, the fact still stands that she is their mother, and they obviously really love her.

Anonymous said...

I complete agree with you. PUtting out the flags is REALLY the LEAST they could do, and if you listen when Jon talks about putting the flags up and September 11th Kate says, "Its the least we could do."
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Not to turn this hostile, but what do you do to commemorate 9/11? Putting up flags may not be a grand gesture, but it's more than the average American does.

Nor do I consider it "damage control" or anything they were told to do by their PR people. Jon and Kate have shown time and time again that they're very patriotic. Between the 4th of July picnics in their hometown, where the kids were dressed in American flag gear and holding American flags in their hands and the 4th of July they celebrated on their vacation where the kids wore red, white, and blue clothing, held American flags, made an American flag cake, and sang a song about the American flag... they're more patriotic than the average American family, and I have little doubt that it was their own decision to commemorate 9/11 with the flags.

Flawed though they may be, a lack of patriotism is not one of their problems.

buddhadoesntdeliver said...

Flawed though they may be, a lack of patriotism is not one of their problems.

I should hope not. Yes displaying a flag is the least the Gosselins can do. They are/were the recipients of Government assistance. Only in America can you have six babies at once and not pay one red cent.

Only in America can you count on the kindness of strangers to sustain the lifestyle of two non working dolts.

Anonymous said...

Nor do I consider it "damage control" or anything they were told to do by their PR people. Jon and Kate have shown time and time again that they're very patriotic. Between the 4th of July picnics in their hometown, where the kids were dressed in American flag gear and holding American flags in their hands and the 4th of July they celebrated on their vacation where the kids wore red, white, and blue clothing, held American flags, made an American flag cake, and sang a song about the American flag... they're more patriotic than the average American family, and I have little doubt that it was their own decision to commemorate 9/11 with the flags.

Flawed though they may be, a lack of patriotism is not one of their problems.

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Don't you see that all the negative comments about KON are because they do NOTHING unless it's for show. The matching outfits, herding them down the block on a ring-link-rope, etc are not because KON are patriotic, it's to put on a show for attention.

IIRC, the 4th of July epi down at the OBX was one of the worst ones -Kate yelling at the girls for eating strawberries, Kate dismissing Joel when he wanted to participate in cake making, the "rare treats" of a huge seafood fest, staged messy play with pudding, swim lessons that were a disaster for Mady and Cara and for Joel , Aaden, and Collin, Kate yelling at Jon at the beach, the forced picture at the end of the epi with all the children looking miserable.

At this point,I do not and cannot take anything KON say or do as being sincere. This so called "patriotism" of theirs is much like their "Christianity": Lots of fluff but not much substance.

Anonymous said...

I think all the comments regarding the kids better off without Kate/Kate should be gone more often/Kate needs to get a job so the kids will be away from her more often- these comments are terrible. How can you say that these kids would be better of without their mother. As flawed as Kate may be, she is still their MOTHER and these children need her.
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Why do the kids need her ? She is their mother by blood and title only. Kate does not teach her children about love,compassion, respect, manners, right vs wrong, honesty, integrity, etc, etc. She is toxic to the children and they will suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives.

No, the kids do not need her.

Anonymous said...

Why do the kids need her ? She is their mother by blood and title only. Kate does not teach her children about love,compassion, respect, manners, right vs wrong, honesty, integrity, etc, etc. She is toxic to the children and they will suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives.

No, the kids do not need her.

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She also doesn't do morning, does not get the kids ready for school, does not do baths, does not help with homework, does not play with, does not educate (VTech is responsible for teaching the little ones their numbers and letters, remember?), does not fold laundry, and rarely cooks.

So, really, why do the kids need her?

Anonymous said...

Wow, what an ego fest for Kate. Every comment Jon made about it being tiring she had her superior "Ummmhmmmm" or some other snide comment. Yes, Kate you are the only mother in the entire world who has many children in the house. NOT.

The end, when she kept insisting Jon tell her she does soooo much around the house and then when he did admit it to her (probably just to shut her up) she still corrected him. Sad.

Someone made a good comment about she needs to get a job outside of the house and let Jon be the primary care giver. I agree with that totally. She does create a lot of problems in that household that are not necessary.

Anonymous said...

The best damage control of all?
Kate's white plastic chair was gone and she was sitting on the floor of the garage. That really cracked me up! Will they auction the "famous chair" on eBay for charity? Stay tuned"

Hee Hee. I can just picture one of the crew sneaking out there to get rid of it after reading all the negative comments. Then Kate comes out and says, "Where the heck is my chair? I can't stand up! I'll just plop myself on the garage floor.."

Anonymous said...

In response to: "they're more patriotic than the average American family, and I have little doubt that it was their own decision to commemorate 9/11 with the flags."

I would never be so presumptuous as to say that J & K are more 'patriotic than the average family'. #1 J & K are not representative of the 'average American family' #2 It is insulting to suggest that the actions of J & K set the criteria for which to measure or judge what constitutes an act of patriotism for the 'average American family' or for that matter, the American population as a whole.

Anonymous said...

Emails were circulating through America requesting us to fly the flag on 9/11, as many did.
I think Jon's hairline is looking terrific and enjoyed the last two episodes cause of more coverage of the kids.

Sandiebee said...

I live in SW PA and Flight 93's path meant that it flew right over my house. It turned south somewhere over our state. I agree with the previous poster that said those people gave their lives for us. I was pg at the time with a two year old and our whole city was evacuated. That plane could have come down on me and I am very very grateful for the bravery of the people who died in Shanksville, not more than 35 miles away from here.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


I think Jon's hairline is looking terrific and enjoyed the last two episodes cause of more coverage of the kids.


Bartered his kids' childhood for a set of hairplugs. God forbid he got a job and paid for them. What a man. And a patriot to boot.

Anonymous said...

Hannah is only 4 so no, she is not entirely to blame for her ever growing snotty attitude and strong will. However, I do think this is obviously a direct result of having been coddled and mommy’s favorite “indoor” girl the last four years -- and they would be wise to realize the child needs discipline now before she becomes even worse than how Kate always describes Mady. The thing is, Mady seems to be attention starved. Hannah is not, she’s just the opposite – she is always being singled out as the favorite, we hear how she’s “above” playing with the other kids and editing or not, it appears she doesn’t always receive the same fair punishment as the others (I said not always, clearly she appears to be punished at times, as well. Just not as much as say, Joel). Children learn from this and I’m sure she knows she is the supposed golden child … yet, she doesn’t seem to be nearly as sweet as the other two little girls, she mainly just seems to be bossy and now petulant. Again, she was commended for it the last four years, so I’m not saying she is a bad child – I am saying I hope J&K realize she needs to be disciplined now, while she is just showing signs of an attitude problem lest it blossoms into something way worse by the time she is 7, 8 years old … it could be developed into something very good since clearly she has a strong will. That remains to be seen.

Anonymous said...

As far as the milk comment goes: They live in the state of PA (as do I). Milk prices are regulated by the state and it NEVER goes on sale.

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Thank You. I live in PA and made the comment about it never being on sale. I knew I had never seen it on sale in my life lol.

machinegunsmom said...

I smell damage-control. I think they're trying REALLY REALLY hard to make Kate look good--enter craft projects and interviews about why we all miss Mommy and be sure to include all of the things she does for you. That SHE does, not Jon or the paid help...

Anonymous said...

I just thought of something else about this episode. Kate always wants acknowedgement of ALL that she does. She does so much. She even started her "I prepare the meal, cook the meal, clean up the meal". One thing that struck me was the fact that Jon gets the kids up and ready in the morning, plays with them, gets them off to school, gives them baths at night and puts them to bed.

Kate does the meals, but she has other people do her laundry, fold it and iron it, a helper to watch the kids. She lays around in bed while Jon takes care of the kids in the morning.

So essentially, the only thing different that Jon did while he was Mr. Mom was make and clean up the meal. I give him more sympathy about being "exhausted" than Kate. He clearly does more than she does.

Anonymous said...

I should hope not. Yes displaying a flag is the least the Gosselins can do.
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So I ask again, what do you do to commemorate 9/11? I'm not trying to instigate an argument or anything, I'm just curious about what more you would expect from Jon and Kate for them to be considered true patriots.

Anonymous said...

I would never be so presumptuous as to say that J & K are more 'patriotic than the average family'. #1 J & K are not representative of the 'average American family' #2 It is insulting to suggest that the actions of J & K set the criteria for which to measure or judge what constitutes an act of patriotism for the 'average American family' or for that matter, the American population as a whole.
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I think you misunderstood what my phrasing meant. By saying Jon and Kate are more patriotic than the average American family, I was in no way calling Jon or Kate an average American family; I was specifically pointing out how different they are from the average American family (in this particular instance, the difference is positive).

As for the second part of your argument... what's the harm in Jon and Kate's patriotism being used as a criteria for what constitutes an act of patriotism?

If it was any other family doing exactly what Jon and Kate do in regards to being patriotic, would you be so offended by the idea of being compared to them? Are you offended by the idea of being compared to a family that heartily celebrates July 4th and even commemorates 9/11 with a display of flags, or are you offended by the idea of being compared to the Gosselins? I understand that you dislike the Gosselins, but I don't think it's right to criticize them for doing something that you wouldn't criticize any other person and/or family for doing.

Anonymous said...

Bartered his kids' childhood for a set of hairplugs. God forbid he got a job and paid for them. What a man.

I just don't like the implication that Jon wanted hairplugs so he said, "Here, take my children's dignity in exchange." That's just not how it happened.

Jon did not request the hairplugs, nor did he even want them. They were offered to him for free, and he wouldn't even have accepted had not Kate been so set on him getting the procedure done.

In this case you can criticize him for not standing up for himself, you can criticize him for trying too hard to please his wife, or you can criticize him for undergoing a vanity procedure, but I don't believe you can criticize him for using his kids to get the hairplugs because he had no intention of getting hairplugs. Ever.

They may have fallen into his lap because of the show, but that cannot be turned around to mean that he did the show because he wanted them to fall into his lap.

MomOfThree said...

Of course, ALL kids need their mothers (and fathers) in their lives unless the parents are truly abusive in any way, BUT not all kids need their mothers home with them all day; in some cases dad may be the better choice. Many mothers are not cut out for the "stay-at-home" routine, whereas some fathers may be. Some mothers are actually better moms because they have jobs outside the home. It looks, to me, that the Gosselin's may be one such family. It's an unconventional situation, but one that we find more of these days. When the Dilley family had their six-pack, dad Keith was the "stay-at-home" from newborn through pre-school age. In their situation, it was because the mom, Becky, had the better paying job (she was/is a NURSE!), but still, if the dad was not "stay-at-home" material, it would not have worked very well.

Anonymous said...

I think for Jon the patriotic displays aren't for show, I think Kate picked it up because it was one of Jon's REAL traditions, something he'd always done since a kid, the parades, family picnics. For him it's important, for her, I think it's more of "look at what I'm doing". It's a shame that this year was the first year that Jon and the kids had to miss out on the family tradition.
The other thing, the comment of making dinner for 7 instead of 8, I'm wondering if the twins got to go and visit Aunt Jodi or something, since Kate was gone, so it was just Jon and the 'tups, or maybe it's just me hoping they get to see their other relatives once in a while.

iluveeyore said...

Didn't anyone else think the fact that Jon pitted the kids against each other was sick??? The kids actually looked very frightened. They did not want to fight each other "for fun."

What a pathetic creature Jon is.

machinegunsmom said...

This isn't directly related to this episode but I just made this observation--in a re-run of the episode where Jon cooks dinner for the family, Kate crabs at him the entire time and tells him "you're not a real cook if you need a recipe." In a re-run of the Chocolate World episode where she is making Jon food to take to Kevin's cabin (you know, when they were still speaking to Kevin), she pulls out a big fat binder full of notecards that appear to be...recipes. And don't forget when Mady and Cara came home from cooking class and she screwed up the cake, made from a mix no less, that they brought home a recipe for...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I just don't like the implication that Jon wanted hairplugs so he said, "Here, take my children's dignity in exchange." That's just not how it happened.


No, he had already sold his childrens' dignity before the hairplugs were offered. The plugs were just one perk that came his way as a result of him doing so, and like Kate's tummy tuck, solely benefitted either him or Kate, not the children in any manner shape or form.

They may have fallen into his lap because of the show, but that cannot be turned around to mean that he did the show because he wanted them to fall into his lap.

Again, on a technicality that might be true (are you a lawyer or a politician? it sounds like that kind of argument). However I don't see where anyone can deny that 1)None of these things would have come their way for free, nor would they have been able to afford them, were it not for exploiting their kids. And 2)Neither Jon nor Kate has refused these things or asked those doctors to donate their skills to someone needy instead. That would be the Christian thing to do. Jon and Kate, just from their personal appearance earnings, can easily afford hairplugs or tummy tucks.

Anonymous said...

On Jon and his plugs-

Aside from the fact that he would not have received his plugs without the work of his children ...

This episode really emphasized how KON's priorities are screwed up. Most of the kids were sick with the flu, but they didn't feel the need for either parent to stay home with them. At the very least, Kate did not need to go.

Anonymous said...

Again, on a technicality that might be true (are you a lawyer or a politician? it sounds like that kind of argument).

I am not a lawyer or a politician. I am attending school to become to teacher.

However I don't see where anyone can deny that 1)None of these things would have come their way for free, nor would they have been able to afford them, were it not for exploiting their kids.

Agreed. I'm not arguing that. I was just arguing against the statement that Jon sold his kids' dignity for hairplugs. If you want to use the term "sold his kids' dignity", you'd have to say that Jon sold his kids' dignity and then at some point in the future hairplugs were offered to him because the kids' dignity was sold.

And 2)Neither Jon nor Kate has refused these things or asked those doctors to donate their skills to someone needy instead. That would be the Christian thing to do. Jon and Kate, just from their personal appearance earnings, can easily afford hairplugs or tummy tucks.

Agreed on the hairplugs. Disagreed on the tummy tuck. The tummy tuck offer was made after either the first or second special, long before they had amassed enough wealth to afford the procedure themselves.

I also don't agree that they could have just donated the surgeries to someone else. They were offered the procedures because they are on TV and because the doctor/business wanted that publicity. I think if Jon and Kate turned the hairplugs down and said, "How about you hairplug Moe Schmoe down the street because he can't afford it himself," the offer would have been completely rescinded.

Anonymous said...

iluveeyore said...
I have one big question about this show. In the "3 days" that Kate was gone, WHO did the kids' hair? Their parts were much more even than when Kate supposedly does it. Kate herself has said that she isn't good at it. I'm positive that Jon didn't do it.
So who did the girls' hair while Kate was away "on business."
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I am assuming that Jenny was there the whole time, but not on camera. She probably did their hair. She probably went home at night....

Anonymous said...

Agreed. I'm not arguing that. I was just arguing against the statement that Jon sold his kids' dignity for hairplugs. If you want to use the term "sold his kids' dignity", you'd have to say that Jon sold his kids' dignity and then at some point in the future hairplugs were offered to him because the kids' dignity was sold.

IMO that is exactly how the chain of events transpired. Jon sold his children's dignity when he made the choice to exploit them via a tv reality show. It was per the terms and conditions of said tv reality show that Jon was ultimately offered and agreed to the hair transplant surgery. Jon sold his children's dignity to a TLC reality tv show and some time later an episode of said reality tv show features Jon as the recipient of hair tranplants.
Quid Pro Quo.

Anonymous said...

"They may have fallen into his lap because of the show, but that cannot be turned around to mean that he did the show because he wanted them to fall into his lap."

J & K may not have agreed to do the show for the sole reason of they 'wanted' these offers to fall in to their lap however, IMO they absolutely without a doubt realized that the potential for things 'falling in to their lap' would increase ten fold by agreeing to and as a result of doing the show.

Anonymous said...

I also don't agree that they could have just donated the surgeries to someone else. They were offered the procedures because they are on TV and because the doctor/business wanted that publicity. I think if Jon and Kate turned the hairplugs down and said, "How about you hairplug Moe Schmoe down the street because he can't afford it himself," the offer would have been completely rescinded.

Which would have made the doctor look like the self-serving individual he is, and Jon and Kate look like the self-sacrificing Christians they pretend to be. If I were Jon and Kate's publicist, the hairplugs would've been one freebie I would've advised them to pass on, because it was bad for their image. TLC should have paid for Jon to get the hair plugs if they thought that a balding 31 yr old wasn't telegenic enough.

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