Kate, How do You Sleep at Night?

I began to think about this last night as I struggled with my own bought of insomnia. I realize Jon is certainly an avid participant on the greed wagon, but from my perspective I see you, Kate as the driving force of this whole debacle. Kate, you have done nothing to contribute to society or make this world a better place. In fact, neither you or your husband work to support your own children. You chose this path. You chose to use fertility methods with increased odds of high order multiples. Instead of working to support the family you created, you have parlayed your children’s private moments into a lucrative lifestyle of your own by throwing them into the world of reality television. What about the “love offerings” you gather at churches? You claim to be “Christian”, yet you have the audacity to take money literally stuffed into buckets called “love offerings” from people who are living lifestyles far more simple than yours. Have you ever thought of the people who are giving you these love offerings? They are more likely than not your average American family struggling to pay their own bills in this economy. Why do you not tell them the truth about your good fortune? Why do you not tell the truth that college funds were in fact created by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for the sextuplets? Why do you lie to them? Do you ever wonder while you lie awake at night if perhaps a family gave to you that did not have an excess to give because they believe your lies? It was not your faith or your god who chose you to be a mother of eight. Do you really think parents like the Baileys (who were also featured on TLC with a sextuplet pregnancy) wanted their babies any less? Do you think they lost two of their babies because they had less faith or fortitude than you? It was fertility treatments and then chance and only chance that led to the successful birth of your sextuplets. Why couldn’t you just be thankful for the lives of your children? Why couldn’t you just be thankful they were all healthy? Why couldn’t you be thankful for what was offered by your overwhelmingly generous community? When did your joy turn to greed and, as also discussed on this board, entitlement? Do you sleep better at night knowing your children had six matching cribs instead of the ones originally donated out of love? Do you sleep better at night knowing that fabric from Wal-Mart has never touched their skin? Are you proud of yourself when you walk out of Gymboree with bags filled with clothing that you haven’t paid for, haven’t worked for, and haven’t earned? Do you sleep well at night knowing that the show you sought for financial gain has shown your precious children at their most private moments (including nudity) for anyone to view as long as the internet exists? Are those trips to the spa actually relaxing when they have been paid for at the expense of your children’s privacy and dignity? Do you sleep well on all of your luxurious vacations knowing it has once again been paid for by the hard work of your children? Make no mistake Kate, those children are working. The camera does not lie. They are not having fun. They are not enjoying being raised in a studio that doubles as a home. Do you sleep well knowing that the kids are missing Aunt Jodi, Uncle Kevin and their cousins? Do you sleep well knowing that you allowed your children to love Beth, Bob and their kids and then cut them off as well? Really Kate, how do you sleep?

Submitted by Jennifer, mommy of two

80 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jennifer, this is the most outstanding entry ever posted on GWoP. You have said it all - and brilliantly, too. This is not merely an entry, it's a manifesto! Great job. Thank you!

Rosey in Washington said...

VERY WELL WRITTEN!!!

You articulated my thoughts and feelings exactly!

Great job!!

Lauragirl said...

Really ? .... because I think it's sort of harsh, and filled with things that are "rumored" to be so, but not substantiated. Just saying ...

Anonymous said...

Amazing comment, Jennifer,
eloquently stated. I could not have said it any better. Your post was palpable describing exactly how Kate truly is-thank you!

bcd5 said...

Wow, you were right on the mark with EVERYTHING you wrote! That was amazing to read. I also wonder how Jon sleeps at night, since he is Kate's "partner in crime?" Not only due to the fact that they have turned their precious children into a modern day version of circus side show freaks, but also because they have isolated themselves from their entire extended families - do they not know how much that harms the children? I also wonder how much humiliation, shame, and heartache Jon and Kate have caused their parents, siblings, and other family members and friends? It is almost beyond belief. How do they sleep, indeed...

Anonymous said...

I used to distaste these people because I thought the husband was that kind of man who thinks it's funny that he can't/won't cook instead of getting real and learning because he should. Now though, I think my distaste is more about the greed you speak of - not only about the free things they get for being on the show but becuase they weren't just satisfied to have twins in the first place. I would consider having twins a blessing and anything more just an embarassment of riches but they had to go get more fertility treatments which seems really selfish - especially now that the kids have to grow up on TV in order to facilitate an acceptable income for the family to maintain itself.

Addison said...

Maybe she gets free Lunesta!

Anonymous said...

I'm sure Kate sleeps just fine at night, like every other con artist that dupes and bilks while clutching a bible to their bosom.

Anonymous said...

Jennifer-Love your post! Oh if Kate would only read this and take it to heart.

Anonymous said...

Well said! It still blows my mind that they are exploiting their children and their childhood to make a buck. Those children are going to grow up missing out on being themselves, without the lights and cameras constantly in their faces. Poor Maddie and Cara are already showing their disgust for it. I couldn't sleep just knowing that fact, but I guess if you're Kate, it doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

It's funny that they will use methods that are without God to become pregnant and the fact that they refused to reduce because life is a gift of God.

Anonymous said...

Your entry was exactly right.
The other thing that bothers me, is--as you said: They went with fertility treatments, and we all know there is a higher chance of multiples. Yet, she tries to deny our reality and our knowledge whenever she can. On TV she will claim that there is a VERY SMALL chance of multiples. Not true! We all know better.
Obviously multiples occur naturally. However, whenever you see a movie star having multiples and their time is running out...like they are in their early or mid forties...presto! They get multiples..beause they had FERTILITY TREATMENTS, folks. I hate the way she tries to "rewrite" medical history. But then again, she isn't a paragon of honesty.

Ilovemykids said...

Bravo!! best post EVER.

Anonymous said...

Amen!

Thank you!

Janet said...

Excellent, EXCELLENT post!! I agree with all of the other posters in you saying exactly what all of us are thinking. Now if there were only a way for it to actually 'sink in' and 'affect' Kate the way it is intended. But...I won't be holding my breath for that to happen anytime soon (sigh...)

Anonymous said...

I know all about fertility treatments, I went through them. They tell you up front of the risk of multiples. In fact, I did the same procedure Kate had done and they count your egg follicles up to the day they to the insemination. They tell you that if you have 5 follicles, you could get 5 babies and they start talking then about reduction. They even go so far as to tell you that if you're unsure, you should wait and do another cycle with reduced meds to reduce the number of eggs you produce. We decided to do that, so we wouldn't be faced with reduction. I had 10 eggs my fist cycle, opted not to go further. Next cycle, we had 2 eggs. Yes, it was expensive, but I'd rather have waited than had numerous children I'd have trouble providing for financially. I know the drs talk about this from the day we started talking about fertility methods. Before we ever started meds, they told us about the risks for multiples and reduction and at every appt cautioned us that if we weren't ready for multiples to decide now so we don't go through the procedure. You can't tell me that their drs didn't do that and they walked blindly into those appointments not knowing how many eggs and such. They could have prevented it before they ever got to the point where reduction needed to be discussed.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that on the side of the kitchen cabinets, where Kate has the sayings from the Bible, one of them said something like--"Do everything without complaining or arguing" and then the Bible verse. I thought it was odd because it seems to me that Kate has built this whole show on her complaints about the kids and how hard it is, blah blah blah. Frankly, I wish I was blessed with children and if I ever was blessed with children I don't think I would complain about them on tv. But thats just me.

Anne said...

Great post, I only with I could write as well as you can. I hope you send it to kate, again GREAT post. You read my mind and hear. thanks for taking the time.

Corrie said...

People don't choose to do fertility treatments, they want a family fullstop. I think criticising people and their decision to use fertility treatments is very harsh especially if you haven't been through infertility yourself. The desire to have children is very strong for most couples and you will do anything to have children.....

I've taken the risks several times and I'm not going against God or not willing to accept multiples. People don't use fertilty treatment to have multiples they use the treatment because they can't have children.

I have a set of twins myself and knew the risks. I'm a religious person and am comfortable with my decision and I'm sure the Gosselins are too as all children are a blessing from heaven however they arrive to us.

Try to be sensitive to people with infertility because it could have been you and I doubt you'd be judging her 'choice' as you say of fertility treatments if you were faced with infertility.

Ravello said...

Fabulous post. Great job.

I think the KONS sleep at night because they are ignorant, tone deaf and pleased as punch with their little empire. They have pulled a fast one on America.

Anonymous said...

This is the best post ever! This needs to be e-mailed to Kate.
Do you think that she even has a clue about how people view her? If she had any shred of decency then she probably does have trouble falling asleep at night. She might lay there and wonder how much longer this charade can go on. This may be why she is always so exhausted!

tmc said...

This post was awesome!!!! Very well done. Gosh, I hope Jon and Kate read it.

Anonymous said...

Wow, Jennifer, kudos to you on this emotional, thought provoking post. If I may, I echo your sentiments a million times over.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that on the side of the kitchen cabinets, where Kate has the sayings from the Bible, one of them said something like--"Do everything without complaining or arguing" and then the Bible verse. I thought it was odd because it seems to me that Kate has built this whole show on her complaints about the kids and how hard it is, blah blah blah. Frankly, I wish I was blessed with children and if I ever was blessed with children I don't think I would complain about them on tv. But thats just me.

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I commented on this very thing a while ago. If you look, there are Biblical versus posted everywhere in the house : on cabinets, on the fridge, at the top of the stairs, etc. Again, all for show.

Anonymous said...

Jennifer-

Why don't you post this to the GMA link. All the questions we want to ask KON are presented right here.

Anonymous said...

Bravo!!! I pray that Jon and Kate will one day soon realize what they are doing is wrong wrong wrong. These childern will never get this time back due to the greed of their parents. I am so sad about the whole thing.

Natasha said...

I think God can be just as present in fertility treatments as he can be in the natural form of conception...I think it is what the parents DO with the results that matter. That, I think, is the heart of the Jon and Kate matter--how they have chosen to raise their beautiful family and to appreciate (or not appreciate) all of their blessings.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Jennifer- Why don't you post this to the GMA link. All the questions we want to ask KON are presented right here.
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Yes, Jennifer - that's a great idea! It is so well-articulated and explains the very core of the issues with KON. When Diane Sawyer and her people read it, they cannot simply put it aside. Please send it if you feel comfortable doing so!

Anonymous said...

I have just sent Nancy Grace an email she is a child advocate and I really hope she looks into the Gosselins and becomes a voice for these kids. Great post!!

Anonymous said...

The sad thing is that Kate probably sleeps very well at night. I believe in my heart she has no conscience. She believes this is her right.

ThreeFarmers said...

You spoke for a lot of people with this post.

Anonymous said...

"I have just sent Nancy Grace an email she is a child advocate and I really hope she looks into the Gosselins..."

Nancy Grace is definitely one that Jon and Kate Gosselin do not want to tango with, that's for sure!

distractionary items said...

Fantastic post! I have watched every episode, and agree totally. However, I believe that Kate sleeps at night. She sleeps like a baby! She sleeps so well, that it takes her hours to wake up and get going in the morning. The only time I see her "losing sleep" is when she is giddy with anticipation of her next group of "freebies". I see her like a child at Christmas. Wide eyed with wonder of what goodies await her! "Oh, I am so exhausted! You know, I hardy slept last night! I was trying to mentally organize my FREE Gymboree clothes that I am picking up today! Jon, I think you should pick them up for me! Lifting shopping bags is so exhausting!" Yes Kate, NOT working for a living is SO exhausting!

Anonymous said...

Jennifer,

Thank you for posting what many have been thinking for a long, long time. I could not have said it any better myself.

Furthermore, they need to change the premise of the show to: "How to have lots of kids, put them to work (so you don't have to) and get rich quick". I truly think this is what enamors the supporters. The Gosselins are having their cake and eating it, too. They have a boat load of kids, with no plan and no jobs, yet make tons of money and live somewhat privileged lives. Great life if you're not one of the 8 kids having to work in exchange for all those parental privileges.

Anonymous said...

I think this is the best post I have read. It nails the key problem - exploitation of the children. I don't care about anything else..their personalities, their marriage, their job status... I don't care about these things. I just care about the fact they are forcing their children to "work" all the time and the potential long term ramification on their children. That is truly what's importanty.

Anonymous said...

Very good post. I think this is the key question and what is baffling to me. How can they continue to film their children and not think twice about the issues? How can they not worry about the kids looking back on the internet and reading awful things about their family? Not worry about how their children will handle their fading star status as they age? How can they sleep at night when they in a way sold the rights to their family to some production company?

Anonymous said...

Very well written and I totally agree. The only thing is I havent ever seen the children nude. Yeah, they show them bathing, but from the waist up. However the camerman is seeing them completely nude and I would have a problem with that if it were my kids..
But then again, I wouldnt put them in the limelight either..

I bet you Kate sleeps very well at night. People like her have no conscious.

Stink Eye said...

Personally, I like the Gosselins. They come off more natural than that of the Duggars.

Even with two children there are days that you want to pull your hair out, and the family which is depicted on television shows that it isn't all rainbows, butterflies and ponies. There is frustration, there are good days and there are bad days. It's the more natural standpoint in my opinion versus other large families on television.

They have made no excuses for how they live. She was a nurse, he is an I.T. specialist. She is controlling, but I think in her home, she needs to be, or there would be anarchy. Maybe that is part of her control fallacy, she is a nurse, needs to be in charge, and wants to do the best for her family.

She took fertility treatments because of PCOS, is that so wrong? She obviously couldn't get pregnant on her own. It was a crapshoot as to how many children that she could have, and I think as a whole, they have done well. The kids are clean,fed,happy, they are exposed to different stimuli. They have expectations, but they are still allowed to be kids (unlike some of the large families depicted on TLC).

Shit, if TLC came to my house to document my house with two kids, three dogs, and an 1870's house that remains partially renovated, I would jump at the chance. Yet, my life would not be interesting enough.

It's not like they have pimped their children out like the Dionne Quints. . .They are a family who parents, and correct me if I am wrong, they do have family support. They aren't jumping on the bandwagon to have more unlike the Duggars. Haven't there been moments when she actually tells the camera crew to vamoose?

And if they get perks, who cares, at least they are not trying to take over the world with fundamentalism.

Anonymous said...

All of you are right of course, but I really hope you're not writing because you expect to affect or change Kate should she happen to read your posts and comments. People like Kate think there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, and that the problem lies with everyone else. I know. My mother was cut from the same cloth.

Anonymous said...

I stopped watching the show a while back. The children hit, act nasty and disrespectful towards each other because that is what they see from their parents 24/7. Occassionally I will try the show to see if it has changed. It has-the kids are bigger, the parents are now Hollywood parents and the perks are better. I don't see the Christian values that they talk about. Kate's attitude comes across as she would be happier if they all sat still(clean) and didn't move until it was time for the cameras to roll. Then they should be cute and adorable. Cut. Sit still until called again. Don't get dirty, loud or require things that all children do. And if you can-don't be a boy.

Ilovemykids said...

It's not like they have pimped their children out like the Dionne Quints

That's exactly what Kate and Jon are doing. They are using their kids lives in order to put money into their own pockets and to "kon" freebies out of unsuspecting companies.

. . .They are a family who parents, and correct me if I am wrong, they do have family support.

I will correct you - Kate and Jon have disassociated themselves from all of their family.

grammieof4 said...

Stinkeye said that Jon is an IT guy, well he may be, but right now, he is not working. Kate has said she doesn't ever want to go back to nursing. They are making a living from the fact that they have two sets of multiples.

>>>It's not like they have pimped their children out like the Dionne Quints. . .They are a family who parents, and correct me if I am wrong, they do have family support. They aren't jumping on the bandwagon to have more unlike the Duggars. Haven't there been moments when she actually tells the camera crew to vamoose?<<<

Actually, they have "pimped out their children like the Dionne Quints." Many people have seen the similarity. These people are exploiting their children to make a living. Kate has even said the show is our life, and our life is the show. She has called it the "family job."

Earlier on, they had some family support, and many friends who were "helpers." Kate has cut most of those people out of their lives.

As far as jumping on the bandwagon to have more like the Duggars, both Jon and Kate have said in articles and on interview shows that they want to adopt a child, so that they know what it is like to have one at a time. They said they wanted a "tagalong." Can you imagine describing a child you adopted that way? Probably not, because most of us are not like Jon and Kate.

lifeoriley said...

While I agree with the sentiment of this post, unfortunately, I have to agree with what a commenter above said--she (Kate)sleeps very well, thank you very much. I think she and Jon feel that this (the show) is the "best" they can provide for their family--and she should have to answer to no one (except God). Kate even said in the last viewer FAQ episode something like "no one understands what its like to be us --except God." Which, btw, I thought was pretty arrogant. Really--no one KNOWS what it's like to be any other human being on the planet, really. Does that mean NO ONE has the right to criticize or point out anything they see wrong with another's behavior? If so, then why would we have the justice system? Why would we have religious figures pointing out the "errors of man's ways"?
I think Kate believes in rules and structure--for others--she, after all, is a "special" case-- a "rare exception." No, the rules do not apply to Katie Irene Gosselin, and she sleeps very soundly, IMO.

Anonymous said...

". . .They are a family who parents, and correct me if I am wrong, they do have family support.

J & K have stated repeatedly that extended family are not a part of their daily lives because, four years ago they 'didnt know how to help us' and currently because 'they do not understand us'. Even the once present and supportive Aunt Jodi and family are no longer a part of'their daily lives'.

one more blogger said...

Like all of you I am completely repulsed and bothered by seeing the Gosselin tups in their most private of moments and nude. It's one thing when you have private home videos of, say, giving your babies a bath. But that is not something that the whole world will see. Never in a million years, and not for all the money in the world, could I let anyone outside of my closest family members see my baby girl nude.
And there is something seriously wrong with the camera man/woman, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed this. It seems like he is always zooming in on inappropriate areas of the children during certain situations. Like when Collin (was it Collin?) was constipated in the store and Kate was too busy shopping to comfort him, and he finally went to the bathroom. The camera man zoomed in on his saggy diaper. I mean, was that necessary? I saw this another time when the kids were running through the sprinklers in their diapers and the camera kept zooming in on their diapers almost falling off their bottoms. Something about seeing that did not sit right with me. Of course there have been many other instances as well that we all know about.
For someone who claims to care about their children so much and worries about strangers knowing their names from seeing it on the tup's back packs, Kate sure has no problem with letting perverts all over the country enjoy watching her precious children through their TV sets.
Please, tell me there is something that we can do about this. Direct us to where we can complain and put this gross exploitation to an end!

Anonymous said...

I have always been a huge fan of J&Kplus8, but seeing the way that Jon is treated by his wife and the way the kids are controlled makes me wonder why Jon stays with her.

Shes controlling (to put it mildly), she degrades him on national television as being either slow, or annoying...when he provides for the family. He takes it, he loves her, but that doesn't mean I approve of any of the behavior she dishes out to others.

I enjoy watching the children and Jon play and laugh with them...Kate is annoying and needs to have less camera time. No one wants to hear about her organizational skills, cooking, or budget making...these are all things that a human being could learn on their own.

Oh yeah Kate, yeah, I make better meatloaf than you ever will.

Anonymous said...

Just to clarify for Stinkeye, the parents of the Dionne quints did not make the decision to put their children on display years ago. The Ontario government stepped in, ostensibly in the best interests of the quintuplets at the time which we now know to have had quite the opposite effect, and took over their custody and separated them from their family. The surviving Dionne quints have been clear about how their ordeal effected them tragically. In the case of the Gosselins, the parents have been complicit in the display of their children for the sake of material goods. This display is evident in so many ways including their propensity to dress them as well as Cara and Mady alike long past the point where it is cute. They want to be noticed and watched. They have also been complicit in the childrens' loss of privacy and the opportunity to live normal lives by allowing their home to be invaded by reality tv. They are also robbing them of the positive examples of parents doing honest work to support the family. Unfortunately, their narcissism does not let either of the parents see this. I agree with this post. I don't think it matters now if the show is stopped or not because the damage is done.

Anonymous said...

To clarify for Stinkeye, the Dionne quintuplets were not put on display (or "pimped out") by their parents. The Ontario government took custody from the parents and isolated them from their family which, with the benefit of hindsight, was extremely damaging. The situation with the Gosselin children is much different in that they have been put on display (or "pimped out") by their parents. The surviving Dionnes have spoken with authority about the damage that was done to them by being displayed. The Gosselin parents have been complicit in the invasion of their childrens' privacy and their isolation from family and friends through allowing reality tv in their home. They have also been deprived of the positive role model of parents doing honest work to supply the material needs of the family. Instead, they themselves are an integral part of the supply of material needs and their so-called consent at their young ages is meaningless. Who knows how the question is put to them.

Unfortunately, the damage is mostly done and I don't think the clock can be turned around especially with the narcissism that is displayed by Kate and the cowardice of Jon.

I agree with this post.

kelly s said...

Great Posting. I was thinking about J&K's appearances on talk shows. Its always the same "safe" questions. I would love to see them go on The View. Those hosts are the only ones that i think we could count on to raise the hard-hitting questions and make J&K confort their lies and "untruths". Come on The View, ask the Gosselins to appear. How much would you bet J&K refuse. Interesting thought, Huh?

nocupcakeforyou said...

'Jon and Kate, How do you sleep at night?'- On top of a huge pile of money surrounded by studio lights and cameras.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a lot of the comments on GMA are from the same people. They all kind of sound similiar and are the same length. I think it is called damage control.
Why did the kids have to "play" in front of mom while making meatloaf. Because they knew meatloaf as boring and no one would watch her making meatloaf by herself. All the more reason to say they are using their kids for fame.
And how original is meatloaf and her meatloaf sandwich-with mayo and ketchup. Sounds very familiar.

Anonymous said...

stink eye,

My mouth literally dropped when I read your comments. After almost every single line, I wanted to respond with "what about xxxx and remember when xxxx ? "......

I would like nothing better than to truly believe in my heart and mind that the Gosselin kids are happy and that KON are decent, honest people doing the best for their family. Sadly, this is far, far, far from the truth.

It's disheartening to know that you (and many others) can't see what is right before your eyes.

Anonymous said...

They're not pimping their children? With all of the product placement throughout the show, including the clothes the kids wear, you could've fooled me.

Anonymous said...

There is no way Jon can leave her now...the child support he would have to pay would mean he would have to go back to work, and it probably wouldn't be to just one job. Although I don't feel sorry for him, I believe he is stuck until the last six turn 18--and Kate knows it!!!

Lesa said...

I really don't care if they get freebies. It's a perk of having a TV show. And I couldn't care less if their "vactions" were paid for by the resort. They are advertising. So what. It's also part of having a TV show.
The part that really, really bugs me is how they lie about it. They act like the freebies don't happen.
And during the show about going to Disney, I understood that J&K paid for it. But as we all know, that's not true. It was yet another perk of the show.
"It's another life experience for the babies" Kate said. "I never thought we'd be able to do this for them." You didn't Kate. TLC and Disney did. Or rather, they did it for themselves, by working the "family job."
So if they get perks; great, fine, whatever. But, J&K, quit pretending that you live on a budget.
During GMA this morning, Kate showed us how to make a meal for a large family, on a budge. Give me a break. They don't live on a budget. And it's certainly not a small budget, like the rest of America. It's endless perks and freebies that the rest of us can only dream about.
It's insulting to listen to.
So just admit that you have certain privledges J&K. I'd rather know that you understood how unbelievably LUCKY you are, than listen to you talk down to me and tell me how hard it is for you to live on your "budget." Anytime you'd like to trade income, just let me know. I have a mortage, car loan and credit car balance I'd love to get rid of.

Anonymous said...

This is an excellent post. I also used to be a big fan of this show, but as of late have found myself disgusted with these people. It is appaling to me that they still go talk at the churches (leaving their 8 kids at home), expect to be paid a high price and then still take "love offerings".

Consider this my love offering: look at what you are doing to your two older children. It is obvious that they are MISERABLE. You pull them out of school to do interviews for one. That is ridiculous. Maybe to Cara and Mady education and friends are more important than running around the country giving interviews. She also stated in People that the girls are made fun of at school. At the first sign of that, I would have called the TV cameras off, but not them

joey crew said...

How does Kate sleep at night? She can afford the softest blankets, pillows and mattress. Oh, and does Jon sleep with her or does he still sleep at the basement so she won't hear him breathe loudly?
Kate you need to realize you are a mother and you have 8 kids, not just those you favor. You have three boys and when Jenny asks you about your opinion regarding them, don't say "I don't know, boys will be boys." You need to know because you are their mother. They need you. I hope that they will not grow up like you, severing ties with everyone who does not serve you purpose. You are cold hearted and apathetic. Jon, how did you ever fall in love with this woman?

Anonymous said...

Very well put, Jennifer...and I also agree with anonymous (10-15-08 10:25 pm) I, too don't care about how Kate's hair looks, etc...the continuing exploitation of the Gosselin kids is the most important issue.

Anonymous said...

I am the author of the post. I decided before I submitted my personal thoughts that some people would agree with me and some would not. That is how a board works. However, I would like to say to corrie at 5:10pm that I am not sure how you came to the conclusion that I am against fertility treatments. For the record, I am not and it was not my intent to offend anyone who has struggled with infertility. I do not "judge" Kate for using fertility methods. I do however take issue with her using her successful outcome of six (actually eight) precious lives to fund her current lifestyle by exploiting their childhoods. That is my message. ~ Jennifer

elleroy said...

She sleeps at night because she's EXHAAAUUUSSSTEEEDD! Although, it can't be from
caring for her eight children, since she doesn't really
do that. It must be that demonstrating sandwich making wipes her out.

Jennifer, such a well written piece and i agree with each and every point.

xsandlapper said...

Great entry Jennifer!

Anonymous said...

From what I have seen on previous J&K+8, Aunt Jodi seems to be a natural when it comes to motherhood. It especially touched my heart the way she comforted Joel when J&K were off doing the hairplug show. BFD..Jon's hairplugs are more important than staying home to care for your own sick children? I still remember when I was little and would be sick how just having my Mother's hand touch my forehead made me feel so much better...and loved. God Bless Aunt Jodi for being the way she is. I know the Gosselin children will never forget how lovingly she treated them. So effortlessly. I do think that Kate's jealousy played a huge role in axing Jodi from the show. She could never hold a candle to Jodi and this was just one of many situations that made this so obvious.

Anonymous said...

"tagalong."

Ok. THis is totally offensive. Anyone who has ever been adopted would be totally outraged by this comment. I am infuriated the more I think about it. I certainly hope they don't plan on adopting a child now after making such an ignorant comment. THat child will be an adult one day and will see and remember what her mom said about her. She will always feel like a tagalong. Sad. frutrating. Ignorant. Selfish.

alana said...

Beautifully written, eloquent post, Jennifer.

Anonymous said...

"During GMA this morning, Kate showed us how to make a meal for a large family, on a budge. Give me a break. They don't live on a budget. And it's certainly not a small budget, like the rest of America."

What Kate failed to disclose in her 'eat on a budget' meatloaf, is how much you would have to spend at the grocery store to make her meatloaf. Organic eggs, organic ground beef, organic veggies. While I am personally an advocate for buying organic when budget affords, preparing meals using organic ingrediants can be/is very costly. It would have been interesting to see Kate's GMA meatloaf cooking segment include a side bar listing ingrediants and the cost of each 'organic' ingrediant required in her version of 'feeding a family on a tight budget' meatloaf.

Mrs. P said...

Jennifer,
WHat you ACTUALLY said is that Fertility Drugs made the 'tups, not GOD.

This is offensive to Christians who use fertility treatments. We believe that God makes all babies...even if our ovaries needed a little stimulation.

Anonymous said...

Mrs. P said...

Jennifer,
WHat you ACTUALLY said is that Fertility Drugs made the 'tups, not GOD.

This is offensive to Christians who use fertility treatments. We believe that God makes all babies...even if our ovaries needed a little stimulation.


Everyone has a right to their beliefs. That's the philosophy upon which this country was founded, and I would defend it to the death. But we have a situation in the country now where Political Correctness and the fear of offending is letting a lot of people escape accountability by hiding behind the Cross. Jon and Kate are a case in point. They hold and apply religious beliefs selectively in a very transparent way. How does shutting the kids' grandparents out of their lives satisfy "Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother"? How does denying your children privacy and a normal, happy childhood, plus exposing them to hatred and danger, all for the sake of money and your own stardom follow the teachings of Jesus?

Faith, and being a Christian, is not simply pasting biblical quotations on your walls and throwing God and Jesus into every other sentence. I don't know if Jon or Kate ever actually read the bible, but they obviously don't understand it, or else they could not say and do half the things they do. And they most certainly couldn't make their childrens' lives all about commercialism. No, I'm sorry, but Jon and Kate don't get to play the God card. If they really believed in God, they would stop praising Him for all the freebies and money that are 100% the product of their own greed, and start begging Him for forgiveness for how they have strayed from His word.

annoyed said...

Mrs. P said...

Jennifer,
WHat you ACTUALLY said is that Fertility Drugs made the 'tups, not GOD.

This is offensive to Christians who use fertility treatments. We believe that God makes all babies...even if our ovaries needed a little stimulation.

Everyone has a right to their beliefs. That's the philosophy upon which this country was founded, and I would defend it to the death. But we have a situation in the country now where Political Correctness and the fear of offending is letting a lot of people escape accountability by hiding behind the Cross. Jon and Kate are a case in point. They hold and apply religious beliefs selectively in a very transparent way. How does shutting the kids' grandparents out of their lives satisfy "Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother"? How does denying your children privacy and a normal, happy childhood, plus exposing them to hatred and danger, all for the sake of money and your own stardom follow the teachings of Jesus?

Faith, and being a Christian, is not simply pasting biblical quotations on your walls and throwing God and Jesus into every other sentence. I don't know if Jon or Kate ever actually read the bible, but they obviously don't understand it, or else they could not say and do half the things they do. And they most certainly couldn't make their childrens' lives all about commercialism. No, I'm sorry, but Jon and Kate don't get to play the God card. If they really believed in God, they would stop praising Him for all the freebies and money that are 100% the product of their own greed, and start begging Him for forgiveness for how they have strayed from His word.


What did any of what I posted have to do with J&K.

I was bringing up the fact that we should be careful about what we say. There are a LOT of people that are quick to throw out the "OMG! She used FERTILITY DRUGS!" statement. Fertility problems should not be something to be ashamed of.

Is Kate Gosselin a shrew? Yes.

Is she a shrew because she chose to use fertility drugs improperly (without the proper timetable?). Yes.

Should all of the infertile women in the world be labeled WITH Kate Gosselin in a terible generalization??? NO WAY.

queenie said...

Jennifer--This is all so perfectly stated.

Would you be willing to post your permission for your post to be cut and pasted in full into emails to be sent to shows and magazines that insist on promotion the Gosselin garbage? For instance, an email could include, "Blah blah blah...This post from (GWOP) articulates my views on the Gosselins quite well: Insert your post.

Thank you for considering posting your permission.

Anonymous said...

Mrs. P, I'm not quite sure how my statements are being taken out of context, but I had already cleared this up on 10/15 at 12:03pm. ~ Jennifer

Anonymous said...

Hello Queenie. I give permission for my words to be used verbatim and only if used for the advancement of our interests here at GWOP in ending the exploitation of the Gosselin children. I hope that helps! ~ Jennifer

queenie said...

well-stated permission appreciated.

Thank you!

Christian_N_Daniel_Mommy said...

I'm sure the instant Kate Gosselin confesses that she's having a hard time sleeping at night her reps will be knocking on the doors of pharmaceutical companies to see who can offer her some free Ambien.

Anonymous said...

I will make this short and to the point: I had secondary infertility and went through 3 years of drugs, IUI's, and eventually IVF ( which resulted in our beautiful, now 3yo son!).

I don't get insulted when people comment on Kate's infertility and her -seemingly- selfish reasons. I don't get insulted because I know that people are talking about KATE, not trying to make a blanket statement about ALL people who undergo infertility treatments.

Almost every comment on this site can be offensive if people take it too personally.

BTW, I am a Christian also.

Jennifer, I was not in any way offended by your comments. In fact, I think that your post is one of the most thought-provoking , sad, well-articulated ones since I became familiar with GWOP. In fact, I am the anon who suggested you send these questions to GMA .................

carlsbad05 said...

"'Jon and Kate, How do you sleep at night?'- On top of a huge pile of money surrounded by studio lights and cameras."

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Hilarious! I couldn't agree more. Jon and Kate sleep at night thanks to greed and selfishness. They're enjoying their new lives and probably having a blast. New house, new clothes, (free)vacations, nannies, chefs...you name it. They don't give a crap what people think of them. And, as we all know - sadly, their children suffer gravely from it. But as for Jon and Kate? They're living it up and I'm sure they sleep just fine.

Anonymous said...

You forgot the Disney trip...we all know they won't be inviting them back anytime soon. Yelling at the Princesses.....ouch!

You did a great job of profiling her. She is wayyyyyyy beyond selfish.

Anonymous said...

This article is exactly how I feel about Kate. But I suppose accepting a check from TLC is probably better than the gravy train of welfare that Kate accepted from the state of PA prior to their lucrative TV deal. It is disgraceful that someone like this cheat can not only keep beating the system, but that she can fool so many people around the country. Is our society really that stupid? (I hope not.)

Anonymous said...

to Anon 10/15/2008 7:20 PM, I sent Nancy Grace an email months ago about Kon, describing all of their trickery. I never heard back and she hasn't done a segment about it. However as you may know, this weekend CNN Headline News (Nancy Grace's network) began airing a story on their wrap around new segments that is fairly critical of this family.

Anonymous said...

Outstanding...Kate and Jon should be locked in a room and made to read things like this. Maybe, just maybe it would register. I pray for those beautiful children.

Anonymous said...

As a result of watching these shows, I have seen many sad incidents. Two of these unforgettable sad ocurrences follow:
1.When the tups were ill with flu,some were made to sleep on the cold floor on only a thin blanket, so Kate would not have to wash more blankets. How could she do that to sick kids? This, IMHO, is child abuse!She and Jon also, at this time, took off across the country for his very critically needed hair transplant leaving 8 kids, some ill, with poor Jodi!
2. I can't forget her screaming at one of the tups for eating strawberries from a bowl. Evidently, the cake, on which the strawberries were to be placed,would not look as nice!
Their values are so screwed up!