Free Discussion 10/25-10/31

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beachluvin said...

I just read that The Soup has finally picked up on Jon and Kate Plus 8, it's about time. I can't wait until Chelsea Handler joins the fun. Both Joel and Chelsea hold nothing back, I just hope they leave the kids out of it, that should have been their parent's job.

shelbysmommma said...

Tonight on The Soup on the E channel, Joel McHale showed a clip of Jon and Kates plus 8. He was making fun of Jon rephrasing the "kids our age" discussion with Kate. He then showed a picture of Jon by himself and stated that next season it would called the "Jon minus Nine" show. I'm sure this will have Kate all fired up.

babeeberry said...

The Soup had a clip a while back of little Joel when he announced "Daddy's have weenaa's, I have a weenaa" and it was done in a cute way not at all poking fun at him. My next wish is Chelsea Handler too. The way she rips on Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt crack me up. Maybe Jon and Kate can be her new material at the round table.

Anonymous said...

Yay! More exposure for the Gosselins. Which means more money for them. Yay Jon and Kate!!

Anonymous said...

actually they've been on the soup before! He was making fun of one of the little boys saying "I have a wiener"

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

McHale is usually pretty merciless. I'm surprised he was so easy on them.

I think a big part of the reason that the media tends to be easier on them and not ask the hard questions is because no one want to look like they are picking on the kids.

Another example of J&K using those kids as a buffer.

Anonymous said...

Can I just say that I don't understand the recent posts showing houses? Are Jon and Kate not allowed to choose where they live? Is choosing to live in North Carolina instead of Pennsylvania one of their many supposed crimes against humanity?

Anonymous said...

Color me a bit confused here. The aerial photos of the Mcmansion says Berks County. Isn't that in Pa? What happened to the North Carolina rumor?

jen in pa said...

Can I just say that I don't understand the recent posts showing houses? Are Jon and Kate not allowed to choose where they live? Is choosing to live in North Carolina instead of Pennsylvania one of their many supposed crimes against humanity?

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Jon and Kate can live wherever they want to live. I really don't care as long as they pay for it. What I do take issue with is a North Carolina McMansion paid for by the exploitation of their children and at the expense of their children working the "family job".

babeeberry said...

I wonder why Jon and Kate say the network edit religion out of their show when the very same network allows the Duggars to speak freely about their beliefs? I'm so disgusted in Jon and Kate I don't believe anything they say anymore. Maybe this poor me article is just a way to regain fans who are questioning the Gosselins true intentions.

http://www.commandtheraven.com/2008/10/25/tv-couple-seeks-to-put-god-first-network-edits-out-references-to-him/

Anonymous said...

From People Magazine (latest issue with Madonna and Guy on the cover):

Readers had mixed opinions about Jon and Kate Gosselin, the Pennsylvania couple whose life raising twins and sextuplets is being chronicled on the TLC network show Jon&Kate+8. "Good for the Gosselins for being honest and open about their relationship. Parenting isn't easy!" says Karen Ganz of New Windsor, NY. Tami DeMark of Carlisle, PA disagrees: "I am so tired of hearing about the Gosselins. There are plenty of other large families across our nation who are not 'cashing in' on their kids." The Gossselins' first book, Multiple Bles8ings , about their journey after they learned they were expecting sextuplets, was published Oct 14 and is selling well.

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I'm glad that they did show both sides (not just good, like all the TV segments) , and limited it to a single post. The majority of the comments were tributes to Paul Newman , which were very touching.

Anonymous said...

here is an excerpt from babeeberry's link:

Having up to eight TV crewmembers filming at their house for sometimes 12 hours also presents spiritual challenges for the family. “The greatest challenge is putting God first all the time, our family second and not allowing work or the demands of the show to tear us apart,” said Gosselin, who has been called “the busiest mom in America.”

“I firmly believe that the enemy’s main goal is to rip us apart as a family,” she continued. “We have felt ourselves being pulled that way because critical people—Christians included—will say: ‘[The show] will tear your family apart. Why are you doing this?’

“And our answer to that is, ‘We believe this is where God wants us to be, what God wants us to do.’ It is a daily struggle, but any job would be. We assess each situation, asking God for His help in each decision. We will keep our eyes on Him, although we are not perfect.”

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I've said it before and I'll say it again : I CANNOT stand Kate.

Anonymous said...

Babeeberry: The Duggers play down their beliefs. Their beliefs are way more conservative then they lead on. They never talk about the Quiverfull principle which they follow. They also never mention Bob Gothard, whose basic life principles they follow. If you goggle him, you will find that he is accused of being a cult leader. They also don't talk about how the principles of Gothard's they follow teaches them that women are subordinate to their husbands, fathers, brothers, and every other male figure in their life. The Duggers also have links on their site to groups that promote racism and homophobia. They don't talk about those either.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible to create a new page/section on this blog to make suggestions? This is much easier than emailing IMO.

I have another suggestion as well, is it possible to post a recap of like the last 5 days events/news about Kon somewhere at the top of the page? Perhaps within each of the recaps there can be links to the larger/detailed articles that it is based on. I think that may save people a lot of time looking for information and it will also help infrequent visitors a chance to get up-to-date. For example, I see like 5 different pictures on the main page of homes and I have no idea what that's all about.

Anonymous said...

I firmly believe that the enemy’s main goal is to rip us apart as a family,” she continued. “We have felt ourselves being pulled that way because critical people—Christians included—will say: ‘[The show] will tear your family apart. Why are you doing this?’ Who is the enemy? Rather vague. So being critical is a bad thing? Guess she's never heard of good criticism? Kate just continues to show a lack of critical thinking skills so not surprised. Anyone that tries to get her to see the full picture and look closely at what impact the show is having on her children are apparently "enemies." It's so sad she is never ever going to get it.

Baffled said...

I firmly believe that the enemy’s main goal is to rip us apart as a family,” she continued. “We have felt ourselves being pulled that way because critical people—Christians included—will say: ‘[The show] will tear your family apart.

Seems to me that their family has already been torn apart -- unless they don't consider grandparents, parents, brothers, sisters, cousins, nieces, and nephews to be family.

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

I particularly love the part where Kate blames their poor parenting decisions on God by saying that this is where God wants them to be. I'm thinking that God probably wants them to protect their children from the scrutiny and greed that has enveloped their lives, but what do I know.

Daydream Believer said...

babeeberry link says:
"She noted that God has used the show to make a spiritual impact on fans, including a woman who contacted her family earlier this year because her daughter had ovarian cancer and her dying wish was to talk to Gosselin.

“I felt very insecure about calling her,” Gosselin recalled. “She was a young mom, same age as me, and she had two young kids. I fought it for a few days. … I knew that God was telling me, ‘You must call her, you have no choice, you need to.’

“And so one night, I talked to her,” she added. “I was so inspired by her. She was an amazing woman who found humor in everything. … As she laid on her deathbed, I was able to lead her to the Lord that night. I knew I needed to do it and she was very accepting. She went to heaven less than 24 hour later.”

Gosselin stayed in touch with the woman’s mother, who ended up taking care of her daughter’s small children. “A few months later, the grandmother called me, and the 7 year-old found out that he was dying of cancer,” she recounted. “It’s so horribly awful, and he passed away this summer.

“I was able to lead him as well as the grandmother to the Lord. I never would have met them any other way, and that is how God chooses to use us. Three people coming to the Lord through our show is all worth it.”


Did Kate really say this? Does she really believe it?? Is she the new messiah?? Ugh she is really hard to take and full of herself!!!!

wramblinwreck said...

“And our answer to that is, ‘We believe this is where God wants us to be, what God wants us to do.’ It is a daily struggle, but any job would be. We assess each situation, asking God for His help in each decision. We will keep our eyes on Him, although we are not perfect.”
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Ah, the tried and true line of the "religious" scam artist, a la Jim and Tammy Faye Baker. Remember how God called them to build a gigantic theme park? How they cried and prayed about it (on TV) but they had no choice, God told them to do it! So don't blame Jon and Kate for exploiting their kids with 12 hour workdays: you can't argue with God!

Anonymous said...

It's so sad she is never ever going to get it.
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Oh, Kate gets it alright. KON know EXACTLY what they are doing, but think that by saying everything is "God's plan", it's ok .

Ilovemykids said...

I've said before, Jon and Kate are this generations Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker. Frauds who will use God (and in this case, their children as well) as a vehicle to personal wealth.

Kate, Jon and their sheeples - I'm pretty sure that God does NOT advocate you making money on the backs of your children. In fact, as a Christian myself, I am insulted and embarassed that you would use religion to con others out of their hard-earned money.

Jon, be a man and go out and get a job to support your family. Kate, grow up and learn how to respect your husband and be a decent mother to the children you chose to bring into this world. You both are shameful.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with others. I'm not understanding the real estate/property posts. Is it supposed to show us that the Gosselins should stay in PA? I'm pretty sure the Gosselins are all nestled into their ginormous mansion in NC already...? Wasn't the huge house in NC the one they previewed on a sneak peak several episodes ago?

Anonymous said...

To the person that posted about their conservative beliefs, the Gosselins are DEFINITELY not "quiverful". "Quiverful" means that you do not try to prevent OR cause pregnancy, and clearly they did.

Anonymous said...

Gosselin, who has been called “the busiest mom in America.”
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Hmmm...more like the most indulged, money-grubbing, spa-going with plenty of "help" mom?

Anonymous said...

“I firmly believe that the enemy’s main goal is to rip us apart as a family,”

Uh, Kate, you are the enemy.

Anonymous said...

I was just watching "Back to School." It's interesting that, of the three younger girls, Hannah seems to exhibit the weakest leadership qualities. I think Kate confuses "leadership" with "clinginess" and "people-pleasing" (or, more specifically, "Kate-pleasing").

This occurred to me because "Back to School" shows that Leah is blossoming into a pretty exceptional child. I've always noticed that she has the clearest enunciation and best handle on vocabulary of all the 'tups (i.e., when she tells Jon not to forget the backpacks). She also appears to be very ambitious and driven -- perhaps somewhat of an overachiever. I felt badly for her when she was upset with herself for not being able to ride the bike. She even said, "I didn't do so well!"

Going back to other episodes, I remember that Leah was the first to learn the words to the Christmas carols and to understand the scenes from the Biblical play they say. She was the first to volunteer to try to tumbling exercises on the gymnastics bus.

Anyhow, my rambling serves simply to point out that a child like that deserves to shine...to be nurtured, enriched, encouraged. Instead, Leah is often just lumped with Hannah, as her little follower. Kate always says things like, "Hannah's in charge, and Leah's okay with that." Leah has natural leadership qualities that may very well be "stampled" (sorry, couldn't help myself) if she is not recognized properly for her potential!

I have some thoughts about Hannah as well, which I will post separately. And, of course, none of my observations of the children lay any fault with them...I think they are all extraordinary kids whose little flaws are caused or exacerbated by their parents' behavior.

dotsicle said...

I have to agree with others. I'm not understanding the real estate/property posts. Is it supposed to show us that the Gosselins should stay in PA? I'm pretty sure the Gosselins are all nestled into their ginormous mansion in NC already...? Wasn't the huge house in NC the one they previewed on a sneak peak several episodes ago?
I think it's supposed to show that the Gosselins could find a place in PA that's not so far from family and friends, maybe the kids wouldn't have to change schools, and it's big enough for Queen Kate's taste. At least, that's my take on it.
And, the house they looked at on the episode a few weeks ago was in VIRGINIA, not NC. I don't think they ever intended to buy it. It was just a look at the kind of house Kate wants. The PA one in the picture here looks like the same type of house.
"Hannah's in charge, and Leah's okay with that."
In one episode, Jon commented that Hannah is "mature" or some such word because she is not easily distracted when told to pick up toys or given directions. To me, that doesn't say "leader". Leah seems to have more leadership qualities than the other tup girls. Nothing against Hannah; she can follow instructions and that's good, but it doesn't mean
"leader". Alexis, LOL, doesn't seem to be leader or follower.... she just does her own thing.

Anonymous said...

Is she the new messiah??

Yes, Kate is the 'chosen one', the modern day messiah and damned are the 'evil doers' who shall stand before her and criticize. How dare anyone question her motives as her work has been given the seal of approval by God thus releasing her conscience from the burden of accountability.

Anne said...

anonymous 11:59
Correct me if you can this blog isn't about the Duggars its about the Gosselins.

To compare the two families is fine but to say the in a roundabout way the Duggars have issues so its ok for the Gosselins to, is silly to me. Maybe I just dont get your point.

Anonymous said...

Warm climate? Maybe she should have done a little more research on the NC winters. She's in for a surprise.

natasha said...

Anonymous asked,

"Who is the enemy? Rather vague."

I believe Kate is referring to Satan.

Christine said...

“I firmly believe that the enemy’s main goal is to rip us apart as a family”

Well Kate, you do a damn fine job of ripping apart your own family all on your own.

Kittie said...

I found this list on another site and I think it would be useful to have it posted somewhere. I take no part in putting this list together but would like to pass it along.

New Hair Institute, V-tech, Grains For Life (The Grain Foods Foundation), Willow Street Pictures, The Gap, EmTanner, Dodge Sprinter, Juicy Juice (Nestle), Johnson and Johnson, Red Robin Restaurant, ADT
Gymboree, Dutch Wonderland, Disney World, Crayola Factory, Bounce U, Hands On House, Strasburg Rail Road
Sesame Place, Gibraltar Restaurant, TLC, Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, Amazon.com, Figure 8 Films, Zondervan Publishers (A HarperCollins Company), Radians Car Seats, Dura-Bib by DEX Products, Thirdpath, Creative Group, Pur Water - P&G, Ads by Google, Media Motion International, Graco, Southwest Airlines, The Canyons Ski Resort, Oberymeyer, Giant Foods Stores, Woman's Day, Live with Regis and Kelly, JDNews.com, Star Magazine, Banana Republic, Grand Wailea Resort, Maui.

The only other ones I can think of right now are Good housekeeping, Fox and Friends and Good Morning America

Anonymous said...

I think it's supposed to show that the Gosselins could find a place in PA that's not so far from family and friends, maybe the kids wouldn't have to change schools, and it's big enough for Queen Kate's taste. At least, that's my take on it.
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I still don't understand why wanting to move out of state is being touted as one of their great flaws as human beings. There's no reason why they should not be allowed to move and live wherever they please, or wherever TLC or Figure 8 wishes to build them a house. They should also be allowed to choose which style and size of house they wish to live in, instead of having to live in a house some people on an internet forum have apparently picked out for them.

Are there great houses in PA? Yeah. But there are great houses in every state, and Jon and Kate (or TLC and Figure 8, if you want to be cynical) have chosen NC. They're free to make that choice, and that choice has nothing to do with the welfare of the children.

Anonymous said...

kittie - I'd take Dodge Sprinter off that list because (supposedly) J&K paid for that themselves. Even if they raised the funds from other people, I don't think Dodge donated it. They do happen to get the free advertising, so bonus for them!

checkinout said...

I'm going as Kate for Halloween. All I have to do is rub my head in grease for the chicken headed look, rub cheap-ass read rouge on my cheeks and shrill like a banshee.

janicej said...

natasha said...
I believe Kate is referring to Satan.


Then she's talking about herself again.... 'cause it is ALL about her... 24/7.

Anonymous said...

I think the house is Beth Carson's house. Am I right? Beth's house had a pool, long driveway, and enornmous yard.

Anonymous said...

Are there great houses in PA? Yeah. But there are great houses in every state, and Jon and Kate (or TLC and Figure 8, if you want to be cynical) have chosen NC. They're free to make that choice, and that choice has nothing to do with the welfare of the children. When there is no real reason to move other then to enable the parents to further isolate the children from their relatives and make it easier for Figure 8 to continue to film the children, is all about the children's welfare. This move to NC is just another part of Kon's effort to avoid having to explain where the family is and to have the minor children support them due to the even laxer laws in NC for filming minors They aren't going to NC for a job opportunity for Jon and the climate may be a little warmer but not like FL. So the move having tons to do with the children and not for the good of the children in any way, shape or form.

Anonymous said...

When I saw that house, I thought it was Beth's house also. So I don't think it has anything to do with Jon and Kate per se, just kind of a coincidence that Beth and Bob are also moving. Please tell me the Gosselin family will not have a compound in N.C. and all of our favorite "characters" will come back. It takes a village to raise a child, and somehow the village idiots got 8.

"distractionary items" said...

Regarding the idea of Kate "leading others to the Lord":
As she relates the story of the family with a young mom that dies due to cancer, I can't appreciate this idea that she is using the show to "help others". She preaches every day on how others are there to "HELP" her. Her first step should be to lead herself and her own family to the Lord. It is obvious that she does not exemplify good "Christian" behavior in her own life. How can you lead others to the Lord, when you are not living with the proper values? Many give their opinions on this at the blogs. It is one thing to say you are "Christian". Becoming some sort of "Evangelist" to others just because you are on a reality show is quite another. This is just another way that Kate shows how she feels superior to others. As we know she is an expert cook. Now she has become an authority on saving souls. What will be next? Probably financial advice on the stock market!

Lala said...

I am new here and glad to find this blog......... I was fascinated by the show at first, but like others it seems, little things started to bother me. I didn't understand the backlash until recently (I've seen the shows sporadically, out of order.)......... For me, the last straw was poor sick Joel on the floor of the laundry room. It actually caused me to have a nightmare about something similar in my own childhood. It's amazing how these seemingly small things can make an impact on a child......... Additionally, I continue to be disgusted by the grasping at money and freebies (which is also happening over at Little People/Big World). When J&K+8 were on Oprah, I could have sworn Kate looked disappointed when she finally realized they weren't getting some spectacular Oprah-freebies......... Guess what? My husband is also one of [gasp] 8 children (which is why we started watching the show) but they survived on very little and no extra help whatsoever......... Whew. Thanks for the opportunity to post my thoughts.

dotsicle said...

Anon 8:24 said: "Jon and Kate....have chosen NC."

Do you have inside info on this? Where in NC are they moving? It's been "assumed" that they would move to NC but I don't think Jon or Kate or TLC have ever confirmed it or given a location.

Anonymous said...

No, that's not Beth's house. It's just a random house that's for sale in the Berks county area of Pennsylvania. Beth's house doesn't even look like that.

alana said...

"...but there are great houses in every state...that choice has nothing to do with the welfare of the children."

Oh yeah? That "choice", to build/buy a house in NC has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that NC has NO laws protecting the rights of children who work.

As in: The Gosselin children work four days a week, 12-plus hours each day, in order to support their parents in the manner to which they've become accustom.

How disgustingly selfish of Jon and Kate.

I would bet my keyboard that as KON discover more lavish and wasteful impulsive ways to treat and reward themselves for all of "their" hard work, the children will be left at home with strangers babysitting.

Among the multitude of problems plaguing these children as they grow up you can count on crippling separation anxiety and attachment disorder wreaking havoc and destroying all attempts at interpersonal relationships.

Anonymous said...

kittie-

Wow, that's quite a list- thanks so much for posting. I have written about 15 letters, but I now know I have many more !!

Thanks again.

Anonymous said...

Are there great houses in PA? Yeah. But there are great houses in every state, and Jon and Kate (or TLC and Figure 8, if you want to be cynical) have chosen NC. They're free to make that choice, and that choice has nothing to do with the welfare of the children.
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Actually, I think it WAS posted as a message about the welfare of the children. I took the postings to mean that there are obviously beautiful homes in PA (and in every state, like you said) but there is nothing in PA to keep KON there -they have alienated/po'd everyone around them. The children are already so isolated in PA, I can't imagine how they will suffer in NC.........

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate dont have the balls to build their custom designed fully furnished McMansion in the State of PA. The state of PA and it's community are the ones that financially supported and provided for J & K just a mere four years ago. J & K do not want the individuals who gave of themselves financially and otherwise just a mere four years ago to witness the building of their(J&K) custom designed bigger, better, more elaborate McMansion. In true J & K fashion, they estrange and distance themselves from any one, family/friends/community or any thing ie, news media that has the ability to represent the voice of TRUTH.

LovingMommy said...

I remember watching one episode when one of the twins received a call from a classmate. Kate made Carla (her hired helper at the time) pick up the phone for her and tell the friend something to the effect that one of the twins can't come to the phone. I remember Kate's reaction in the interview chair to that call. She looked disgusted and annoyed. At that point I said to myself, those poor girls are going to have a hard time keeping friends with a mother like that.

babeeberry said...

Kate Gosselin said:

“I firmly believe that the enemy’s main goal is to rip us apart as a family,”

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I'm not sure about everyone else but in my life my friends are also considered my family. I love them just as much as the blood related relatives. Kate needs to step back and see that SHE has already ripped apart her family by her (and Jon's) bad behavior. The only ones suffering are the children because they are the ones who had the attachments to Beth, Nana, Aunt Jodi...and so on. I don't think Kate ever forms deep bonds with people, wether they are family or close friends. She simply see's what she can get from them and then moves on. It's like she needs to be the alpha dog, and if someone dare challenge her position she cuts them out.
So Kate, as an outsider looking in I say you've done a good job tearing your family apart already. You need to see yourself as the enemy. Your kids have no one outside their siblings and camera people to interact with. Good job Kate and Jon...you must be proud.

Anonymous said...

...Radians Car Seats...

Car seats are a requirement of the law. They had to have them. I don't know the situation behind this, whether they received them for free or whether they were bought for them and Radian allowed them to show them on TV, but would you want every car seat company to refuse to allow Jon and Kate to use their car seats?

The kids have to be sitting in car seats whether they're on TV or not. I don't think this is a case of a company taking advantage of the exploitation.

Giant Foods Stores

Once again, Jon and Kate have to shop somewhere. They need food to live. I for one would refuse to shop at a grocery store if I found out they had kicked out a customer who was just shopping for their family. If every grocery store refused to allow Jon and Kate to acquire groceries, the Gosselins would go hungry.

babeeberry said...

Didn't Kate get a special parking spot at one of the local grocery stores? I know our stores have "stork spaces" for moms who are pregnant or have little kids but I swear I read somewhere Kate got her own parking space. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

dotsicle said...

just kind of a coincidence that Beth and Bob are also moving.

They are? I didn't know that! Where did you find out about it?
I am still wondering about why everyone thinks J&K are definitely moving to NC? They never SAID they were, did they? It would be funny as hell if they just moved somewhere else in their own area.

Anonymous said...

I think it's supposed to show that the Gosselins could find a place in PA that's not so far from family and friends, maybe the kids wouldn't have to change schools, and it's big enough for Queen Kate's taste. At least, that's my take on it.

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Of course they can find a big, 'ol house in PA...but, like others have said, it doesn't make a darn difference. If they do move out of state, it will probably be to escape all the hoopla they have created in PA (including to position themselves far away from family, friends, etc.) Also, I think this was mentioned awhile back - think of all the new episodes the "big out of state move" will produce - a WHOLE NEW SEASON. New house, new schools, thousands of new outings for the kids, etc. etc. Argh.

jen in pa said...

They did say that they are moving and that the house would NOT be in the kids' current school district. For those of you who have been asking why it matters to GWOP if they get a new house or not, it matters implicitly because this new house is being funded by the hard work of their children. If Jon and Kate were getting a McMansion because of their own hard work, good for them. But it is being paid for off the back of their children, so shame on them! As other posters have mentioned, if indeed it is in NC (Kate has alluded to this herself with talk of "warmer weather"), then the children truly are in trouble in terms of child labor laws.

London Fog said...

Have Jon$Kate really purchased a McMansion in Berks county? Come on GWOP spill the beans to your loyal board members.

Anonymous said...

i think posters who mention the duggars here are right on target. The issue is that if the gosselins are exploiting their children the duggars most certainly are too.

The Duggar children are on a reality show also. They live a very restrictive lifestyle. Do you think if there weren't 17 Duggar children they'd have a Jim Bob and Michele Duggar show? They have a show because of their children. They supposedly have commercial property they rent to support their family. I've been to this area of Arkansas and I hardly think they make enough rent of this property to support a 17 child family. Therefore the fact is that they also live off their children.

I think people get so involved in bashing the Gosselin's for everything they do, as well as for everything they don't do that it gets ridiculous.

I fail to understand how people can be such experts on the Gosselin family from watching the tv show. TV shows are edited for the purpose of creating interesting viewing - a 20 minute episode certainly does give the picture of the family's life 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

dotsicle said...

They did say that they are moving and that the house would NOT be in the kids' current school district.
But, the kids don't even go to school in their "district" now! The twins are bused out of the neighborhood to a private school and the tups are driven to pre-school at their church, so Kate hasn't actually given any clues at all. The house in VA was just for the show.
The kids are paying for the McMansion, wherever it is.

FamilyFriend said...

The Duggar children are on a reality show also. They live a very restrictive lifestyle. Do you think if there weren't 17 Duggar children they'd have a Jim Bob and Michele Duggar show? They have a show because of their children. They supposedly have commercial property they rent to support their family. I've been to this area of Arkansas and I hardly think they make enough rent of this property to support a 17 child family. Therefore the fact is that they also live off their children.

You're not an expect on the Duggar family income and expenses so please don't pretend to be.

Jim Duggar was supporting his growing family way before TLC came along. He is a real estate agent and he does make a very good income on rental properties they own. He's also been involved in the state legislature.

There is a big difference between him and Jon Gosselin. Jon Gosselin has no job at.all. Neither Jon nor Kate work. Jim Duggar does and if TLC went away tomorrow he'd have no problem supporting his family financially. Not one single person can say that about Jon Gosselin. NO ONE. Jon could never get a job to support the lifestyle that Kate desires and support his 8 (9?) kids unless he went back to college and got a degree.

While I believe no children should be on reality television working like the Gosselin kids and Duggar kids are, there is a big difference between the fathers of this family. Jon is a lazy deadbeat who has no ambition. You can never say that about Jim Duggar. Don't ever compare the two, the differences are night and day.

Anonymous said...

I believe the question of where they are moving was asked of Julie a while back and she said they were moving to NC.

I thought Beth just moved to a new house recently that was shown while she was still on the show.

dizzy_squishling_and_bean said...

I generally agree with a lot of the articles posted on this site. I thought the first "now house" post was faintly amusing, not my cup of tea but not bad. But the fact that more than one is being published is ridiculous. I don't think any of us are so stupid that we believe there are NO good houses in PA for the Gosselins, hell they live in a good house now. But I really really don't need more than one example of real estate for sale in PA. So can we please stop with the house posts?

Anonymous said...

I don't think they have moved yet. I work 1-2x a month within sight of their house and last time I was there the big Sprinter was still there.

Anonymous said...

To the one who said: I am new here and glad to find this blog......... I was fascinated by the show at first, but like others it seems, little things started to bother me. I didn't understand the backlash until recently (I've seen the shows sporadically, out of order.)......... For me, the last straw was poor sick Joel on the floor of the laundry room.


What is the big deal? I have 3 kids and when someone is sick in their beds I make them sit with a pail in the laundry room or tub (and if happens at night I make them sit there in very dim light) and they sit there until I get the mess cleaned and the bed sheets changed, then I get them new PJ's and have a sort cuddle and back to bed they go. What is so bad about Kate putting him the laundry room??!!

wramblinwreck said...

"I fail to understand how people can be such experts on the Gosselin family from watching the tv show. TV shows are edited for the purpose of creating interesting viewing - a 20 minute episode certainly does give the picture of the family's life 24 hours a day 7 days a week."
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The Gosselins were being criticized long before there was a TV show with 22 minute episodes. Go to the Reading Eagle, the local newspaper where they lived at the time of the controversy in 2005 about their appeal to the state of PA to get extended benefits for the tups' nursing care. There are a number of topics and threads in which people in their community, who actually dealt with them, have plenty to say based on their own experiences, not a TV show. What many of us have observed in those 22 minute episodes only validates the real-life perceptions that existed before anything was filmed.

dotsicle said...

Do you think if there weren't 17 Duggar children they'd have a Jim Bob and Michele Duggar show? They have a show because of their children. They supposedly have commercial property they rent to support their family. I've been to this area of Arkansas and I hardly think they make enough rent of this property to support a 17 child family. Therefore the fact is that they also live off their children.
No, the Duggars do not live off their children. They have made a few shows for this season; 10, I think, as opposed to the G's 40. At least one (likely, two) will be about their son's wedding. The show gives a glimpse of how such a large family lives but does not take us into their bathrooms or show any kind of nudity regarding the kids. Meltdowns are rarely shown. The parents evidently DO earn enough to support the family, regardless of where they live. They are as far removed from the Gosselins as I am from Paris Hilton.

Anonymous said...

The house shown is not Beth's..While her house is in Berks County it is in another township thsn the house shown. As for the special parking space for Kate,it is true.It was at Giant ..I don't know if it was at one of the Berks County stores or at their current home.

kristin said...

One of the things that really annoys me about Kate sometimes is that she complains about how many people are in her house! "OMG, there are five extra people here!"

1)she invited them, she continues with the show.
2)has she ever been to an actual set? Even in the tiny ones, there are near to 100 people in there, plus all the equipment.
3)I pity those children if/when they make friends and decide they might want to have them over...

Anonymous said...

So the show tomorrow night is all about the Gosselins getting ready for the big Hawaii trip. How do you think they will present this---simply, we are going to Hawaii to renew our vows with absolutely no mention of the cost involved or how it is a complete freebie? I think this episode will really send me over the edge because the greed and "everything free" factor will be in full, full force---free, totally paid for trip to Hawaii staying at an exclusive resort, free bridal gown (and little kids' clothes too, of course), etc. Just so much excess going to such ingrates.

Eden said...

dizzy_squishling_and_bean said...
I generally agree with a lot of the articles posted on this site. I thought the first "now house" post was faintly amusing, not my cup of tea but not bad. But the fact that more than one is being published is ridiculous. I don't think any of us are so stupid that we believe there are NO good houses in PA for the Gosselins, hell they live in a good house now. But I really really don't need more than one example of real estate for sale in PA. So can we please stop with the house posts?

DSB, just an FYI. The two previously posted properties are the same. One is the listing and interior/exterior close ups, one is an aerial view.

Anonymous said...

They supposedly have commercial property they rent to support their family. I've been to this area of Arkansas and I hardly think they make enough rent of this property to support a 17 child family.

I co-own commercial property in Florida. I haven't had to work in 16 years. I think the Duggars do VERY well with their real estate as my family has always done with ours.
I think the Duggars are doing the show to spotlight God and the right side of Christianity. They are the anti-Gosselins.

beachluvin said...

anonymous said...10/26/2008 1:18 PM

What is the big deal? I have 3 kids and when someone is sick in their beds I make them sit with a pail in the laundry room or tub (and if happens at night I make them sit there in very dim light) and they sit there until I get the mess cleaned and the bed sheets changed, then I get them new PJ's and have a sort cuddle and back to bed they go. What is so bad about Kate putting him the laundry room??!!
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Even though I don't agree with sticking kids in the tub or laundry, the difference is that intended to put them back to bed. In the episode, she was just going about her other business with no intention of putting him back in his bed. It wasn't until Jon came home and found him in the laundry room that Joel went back to his bed. Kate had no intention on moving him. I think Kate has a "sensitivity" chip missing!

Anonymous said...

I saw someone mention that their newsstand copies of the November Good Housekeeping featured a pie on the cover instead of Jon and Kate. I live in NC and we also had the picture of the pie. There was an article on Jon and Kate but the photos from the indoor photo shoot weren't used at all. Did anyone see if the cover was used at all or were they completely removed from the cover? And, does anyone know why?

Anonymous said...

I am a poster from Massachusetts. I was in CVS this morning and Jon and Kate were on the cover of Good Housekeeping magazine. In fact there were two sections of them. Yugh!!!!

chiasmus said...

Regarding the Good Housekeeping cover. They were on the cover in both Chicago and SW Michigan, the two places that I live.

My mother bought it and was so excited to give it to me because when I was a little girl, I waited with great anticipation for the yearly updates of the Kienast Quintuplets in Good Housekeeping. I caught myself before ranting about Kon to her, and just said "thank you."

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

I'm in downstate Illinois and the GH cover here was of the family. I saw it on the news stand and on a subscriber's copy.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think the house is Beth Carson's house. Am I right? Beth's house had a pool, long driveway, and enornmous yard.
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No, this is definitely not the Carson's house. They live NW of Reading.

sugarjay said...

I find it offensive that someone called Kate "the busiest mom in America." What an insult to mothers who have families and work. So what if Kate has eight kids? She has no job and neither does her husband. And then there's all the help she gets. It's disgusting that someone would impy she works harder than other moms. There are plenty of mothers out there with eight kids AND a full time job not to mention single mothers with full time jobs.

Let's think about what we know of Kate's schedule here for a second. We know she wakes up after Jon has already gotten the twins up and off to school and works out for over an hour. Sleeping in and working out for that long after you decide wake up is something most mothers with just one kid can't do. How late in the day must it be by that point? Probably about time to put the kids in their room for their three hour "naps," and we all know it's Jon who gets them ready for bed and gives them a bath.

How pathetic. Kate really needs to get her stories straight.

Barb said...

I'm still trying to find the Gumgate episode on YouTube. Does anyone know how I can find it?

SmartyQ said...

Barbara Jordan is one of my heroes. We oldsters will never forget her speech at the opening of the Nixon impeachment hearings. (You youngsters should read it too.)

Anyway, when Queen Freebie Irene gets on her 'God is on my side' kicks, I think of what Barbara Jordan said.

'You would be well to pursue your causes with vigor, while remembering that you are a servant of God, not a spokesperson for God and remembering that God may choose to bless an opposing point of view for reasons that have not been revealed to you.'

Do you need anything beyond an 'Amen'?

Anonymous said...

I have read numerous comments about how the Gosselins "exploit their children". I personally don't feel that way and I am just wondering what the difference is between the Gosselins and the celebrities who sell their children's pictures to magazines for millions of dollars. Have their movies been boycotted or criticized?

What about shows like "Real Housewives of Atlanta" or "Real Housewives of Orange County" or "Real Housewives of NY". There are little children in all those shows and why is there no criticisms of their "exploitation"?

Anonymous said...

What is the big deal? I have 3 kids and when someone is sick in their beds I make them sit with a pail in the laundry room or tub (and if happens at night I make them sit there in very dim light) and they sit there until I get the mess cleaned and the bed sheets changed, then I get them new PJ's and have a sort cuddle and back to bed they go. What is so bad about Kate putting him the laundry room??!!
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Kate made Joel SLEEP there because cleaning up would be easier for HER. It was not a temporary place to sit until Kate cleaned up his bed.

My 10 year old got a bug the other night and vomited EVERYWHERE at midnight - on the carpet, the walls, his comforter, himself. I told him to change, take a shower, and get into bed with his Dad. I then proceeded to clean up the mess, and, I can assure you, at no time did I even think of having him sleep on the laundry room floor because it would be easier for ME to clean up afterwards......

I can't tell : did you actually see the episode or are you just reading about it ? The episode that is now known as "Joelgate" is one of the worst .

Anonymous said...

barb,

I think "Gumgate" is the episode titled "Mady's Day"....

"Joelgate" is the episode titled "Cooking with the Twins" or something like that.

"Cupcakegate" is titled "The
Tups Turn 4"

And,also, "Ice Cream Gate" is the episode where they drive to Disney, can't remember the actual title.

Anonymous said...

What is so bad about Kate putting him the laundry room??!!
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What is with all the excessive punctuation? Some people also asked what's the big deal with Alexis being separated from the other sextuplets and sleeping in the basement! I think both of these examples are horrible, selfish parenting. Did you see the show? He was put on a laundry room floor on top of one tiny blanket and just left there. That's it. He could have been there all day for all we know. She wasn't going to move him. It took Dad coming coming home and putting him in the parent's bed for this cruelty to end. I don't know about you, but that's not how I treat my kids.

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

I believe that anyone who subjects their children to the glare of the media is open to criticism.

I'll go on record to say that I cannot stand any of the "Real Housewives" shows. I will say, however, that those shows do not exist because of the children. They operate on filming the outrageous antics of the housewives. All of those housewives have gotten their money from sources other than the existence and subsequent exploitation of their children. I also doubt that any of the housewives "earned" their money by going to churches and asking for "love offerings" by presenting themselves as "in need".

As for why we don't pick on those shows here? The name of this blog will tell you that.

wramblinwreck said...

"I have read numerous comments about how the Gosselins "exploit their children". I personally don't feel that way and I am just wondering what the difference is between the Gosselins and the celebrities who sell their children's pictures to magazines for millions of dollars. Have their movies been boycotted or criticized?"
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I think the difference is that these celebrities don't rely on using their children for their income. The few high-profile celebrities who can get millions for selling their kids' photos to magazines are already making millions themselves, as movie stars or in music--they actually have a job; they don't need the money from the photos and usually give it to charity (such as Brad and Angelina).

wramblinwreck said...

"What about shows like "Real Housewives of Atlanta" or "Real Housewives of Orange County" or "Real Housewives of NY". There are little children in all those shows and why is there no criticisms of their "exploitation"?"
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The kids on those shows are only peripheral to the story, not the primary focus. Neither of those shows require the kids to attract an audience; the attraction is the dysfunctional housewives. The "hook' for J&K+8 are the kids; there wouldn't be much of an audience for J&K alone, it's the kids who attract the audience.

cheddarcheese said...

anonymous 10/26/2008 5:07 PM said:

'What about shows like "Real Housewives of Atlanta" or "Real Housewives of Orange County" or "Real Housewives of NY". There are little children in all those shows and why is there no criticisms of their "exploitation"?'


Many people believe the kids are used. Just look at Lauri Waring (Peterson) and Josh and all the issues he's had (granted, he had some of the issues before he hit the television show).

Anonymous said...

What is so bad about Kate putting him the laundry room??!!
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What is with all the excessive punctuation? Some people also asked what's the big deal with Alexis being separated from the other sextuplets and sleeping in the basement! I think both of these examples are horrible, selfish parenting. Did you see the show? He was put on a laundry room floor on top of one tiny blanket and just left there. That's it. He could have been there all day for all we know. She wasn't going to move him. It took Dad coming coming home and putting him in the parent's bed for this cruelty to end. I don't know about you, but that's not how I treat my kids.

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Oh, and let's not forget that, in Jon's own words, Joel was burning up with fever. The whole scenario was sickening.

Anonymous said...

They supposedly have commercial property they rent to support their family. I've been to this area of Arkansas and I hardly think they make enough rent of this property to support a 17 child family.
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You are talking about NW ARK, Wal-Mart country, and yes, you can make a bundle on rental properties. He owns the land where Verizon has a cell phone tower now.

These are not country bumpkins-NW has more millionares per capita then any other state in the country...WALMART!

Anonymous said...

Just finished reading The Washington Post Book Review. Multiple Blessings is not on the list of top 10 books sold in Washington, DC, area...thankfully.

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

It's true that if you own rental property used by a cell tower, you can make a bundle. I know a guy who has done this and it is quite lucrative.

Lonnyswife said...

Smartyq---
Here's my Amen!!

Anonymous said...

Just finished reading The Washington Post Book Review. Multiple Blessings is not on the list of top 10 books sold in Washington, DC, area...thankfully.

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Great to hear ! I live in the area as well.......

Anonymous said...

Regarding the comment about NW Arkansas and rental property. You better believe these are not country bumpkins in that area. I was just visiting NWA this weekend. Walmart, Jones Truck Lines, Tyson Chicken, and all the various Walmart vendors have made this an incredibly upscale and very fast-growing section of the country. This place is definitely not your stereotypical impression Arkansas. Oh, yeah, the Duggars are probably doing quite well with their rental property.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I have read numerous comments about how the Gosselins "exploit their children". I personally don't feel that way and I am just wondering what the difference is between the Gosselins and the celebrities who sell their children's pictures to magazines for millions of dollars. Have their movies been boycotted or criticized?

What about shows like "Real Housewives of Atlanta" or "Real Housewives of Orange County" or "Real Housewives of NY". There are little children in all those shows and why is there no criticisms of their "exploitation"?

The individuals mentioned in your post did not/do not utilize their children as a means to an end. The individuals featured on these shows are realtors, pro athletes, prominent business men and women in their own right. Their financial and social status is not contingent on their children being part of the show or the fact that the children even exist. Their past,present and future financial security is not soley defined by or reliant on the association of WHAT or WHO their children ARE. The Real Housewives reality series features the day in the life of women who HAVE acquired and are accustomed to living a certain lifestyle; the absence or presence of their children on the show does not determine their present and more than likely their future financial security.
J & K wouldnt be who and where they are today financially and otherwise if it werent for the very fact that the 8 Gosselin children exist. There would be no reality show J & K +8 if it werent for the existance of the Gosselin children. There would be no book deal, no speaking engagements, no free Gymboree clothing, no free hair transplant surgery, no free resort vacations, no custom built McMansion, to name a few. What J & K have acquired financially and otherise is a direct result of terms and conditions set forth contingent on the fact that they are parents of two sets of multiples totaling 8 children. Since the day the Gosselin septuplets were born, they have been the means for which J & K have acquired financial and personal gain. Celebrities are not celebrities per the terms and conditions involving their child/children,the careers and lifestyles of the individuals featured in the Real Housewives reality series are not contingent upon whether or not they have children or their children appear on camera.

Anonymous said...

hey 3f, are you 3scaryf because it's halloween time =)

Anonymous said...

They were on the cover of Good Housekeeping here in S Cali

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

hey 3f, are you 3scaryf because it's halloween time =)

Yeah. I was ThreeFarmersWithAnAxe last week for a while. I'll probably change it again.

chiasmus said...

Why would Good Housekeeping put a pie on the cover of their magazine in the NC market?

Interesting that we who live in other parts of the country have the family on the front, but the state that it has been rumored the Gosselin's are moving to has a pie on the cover! Very strange.

Anonymous said...

It's true that if you own rental property used by a cell tower, you can make a bundle. I know a guy who has done this and it is quite lucrative.

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I could have sworn that Jim Bob said (on this past Mondays episode) that most of their income comes from the cell phone tower they have on their property.

Chris said...

I'd love to have a cell phone tower on my property. The lease amounts are in the midfive figure range. I could retire quite nicely, thank you.

Anonymous said...

They have 8 kids to put through college. Not saying it's okay I'm just saying that now they no longer live in Ronald McDonald house which they did for 6 months because they couldn't support their family.

armywife_98 said...

My Husband & I took our girls to see "High School Musical 3" this weekend & before the actual previews (some theaters show advertisements, short cartoons, etc) there was a 15 minute clip of Jon & Kate Plus Eight!! I couldn't believe it! The clip was a montage of at least a dozen different episodes, etc.

They are EVERYWHERE! ARGH!

Ilovemykids said...

The Duggars have both commerical rental property and a cell phone tower located on another property they own. Both, especially the cell phone tower, probably bring in some good money each month.

Also, you don't see the Duggar children as walking advertisements for Gymboree and Gap. You don't see Michelle wearing Ann Taylor clothing. No, this family, buys their clothes from second-hand stores.

Can you see Katie Irene even going into a second hand clothing store?

dotsicle said...

Yes, JimBob did explain that the family earns money from having the cell phone tower in addition to the rental properties. I see nothing wrong with what the parents are doing to support the family. They aren't letting their kids be filmed naked on a changing table, using potties, running around in underwear, bathing, throwing fits, and talking back.... nor are they shown with their hands out for freebies. They are forthright with income info and not ashamed to show how they save by buying second-hand. And, not only do they claim to be Christian, they show that they are in their behavior and attitude.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Just finished reading The Washington Post Book Review. Multiple Blessings is not on the list of top 10 books sold in Washington, DC, area...thankfully.

10/26/2008 6:18 PM

Let me preface by saying I do not condone anything that J & K do or represent. However, J & K did themselves a huge disadvantage by announcing their book deal so early before its actual release date. There has been much controversy and negative public opinion over the course of the many months before the actual release date of their book. IMO, the book's dwindling ratings/sales are a direct result of the controversy and negative public opinion that surround them.

Lonnyswife said...

Anonymous said...
I have read numerous comments about how the Gosselins "exploit their children". I personally don't feel that way and I am just wondering what the difference is between the Gosselins and the celebrities who sell their children's pictures to magazines for millions of dollars. Have their movies been boycotted or criticized?


I didn't see where this specific question was addressed, which surprised me.
I am guessing the celebs you are taking about are Brad & Angie, Nicole & Keith, Nicole & Joel, etc?
Those celebs have been very vocal about what they did/do with the money they were paid for those photos.
Brad & Angelina specifically, give away millions to charity. As have the others I surmise.

Pointing out the obvious then:
They give/gave back.

Anonymous said...

anonymous said:
IMO, the book's dwindling ratings/sales are a direct result of the controversy and negative public opinion that surround them.
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Is it true their sales are dwindling? Wasn't it mentioned that it was #5 on some best seller list?
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armywife_98 said...
My Husband & I took our girls to see "High School Musical 3" this weekend & before the actual previews (some theaters show advertisements, short cartoons, etc) there was a 15 minute clip of Jon & Kate Plus Eight!!
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Were they booed?
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Also, can someone please explain why some GH covers are different in some areas?

SammysMom said...

Yes, JimBob did explain that the family earns money from having the cell phone tower in addition to the rental properties. I see nothing wrong with what the parents are doing to support the family. They aren't letting their kids be filmed naked on a changing table, using potties, running around in underwear, bathing, throwing fits, and talking back.... nor are they shown with their hands out for freebies. They are forthright with income info and not ashamed to show how they save by buying second-hand. And, not only do they claim to be Christian, they show that they are in their behavior and attitude. And hooray for the Duggars for being smart enough to capitalize on real estate investments and a cell tower - wow, I would LOVE to have that kind of "passive" income coming in.




Absolutely! So unlike J & K who do not show anything REAL about how they manage to live off of one income anymore - like when Jon actually HAD a real job! I don't agree with the Duggar's religious beliefs, esp. about the Quiverful part, but they at least show how they manage to run a family that big with down-to-earth ideas, have paid their own way and TLC has given them perks but you never think it's not something they couldn't afford to do themselves. I loved the road trip episode they did - SO unlike the luxurious trips the Gosselins take wih Kate being a pain the entire time.

kelly s said...

Kate to be on The Bonnie Hunt Show Tommorrow- Tuesday Oct 28. It looks like just her.

Anonymous said...

No, I did not really see all of the laundry room episode. I saw most of it, But I was un sure what the big deal was. I have mixed feelings on the show and Kate. I at first loved it, partly because I have a singel child, and now twins, and we are trying again, but now with all I have been hearing/reading I am strating to see the family in there true light, now that I watch the show with a different mind set I notice the things being brought up on the board more now then I did befor.

Anonymous said...

The differences between the Gosselin family and the Duggar family are IMO quite obvious.

Who the Duggar family are and what they represent existed long before their association with TLC and a reality tv show. Who the Gosselin family are and what they represent only exists as a result of their association with TLC and a reality tv show.

Anonymous said...

I bet the Duggar mother (sorry, I can't remember her name) probably looks at Kate and laughs. I mean, she has 17 kids and one on the way, and always talks about how wonderful it is and although its not easy, she does everything with a smile on her face. Unlike Kate, who has 8 children and thinks she is the hardest working mother out there and is constantly crying poor mouth and saying how "exhausted" she is. I guess its all how you perceive it (whether you look at your kids as the blessing that they are).

C said...

IMO, the book's dwindling ratings/sales are a direct result of the controversy and negative public opinion that surround them.

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ITA! Can you imagine if the book was released or ready to be released when they were on Oprah? Thank goodness it wasn't and it's been released at a time when public opinion of them is catching on, and the scam is being exposed.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the books sales are dwindling....this is from yesterdays NY Times Bestseller list--they are #5:

HARDCOVER NONFICTION
Top 5 at a Glance
1. THE SNOWBALL, by Alice Schroeder
2. A BOLD FRESH PIECE OF HUMANITY, by Bill O’Reilly
3. DEWEY, by Vicki Myron with Bret Witter
4. HERE’S THE STORY, by Maureen McCormick
5. MULTIPLE BLESSINGS, by Jon Gosselin, Kate Gosselin and Beth Carson

Anonymous said...

Can you see Katie Irene even going into a second hand clothing store?
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She does all the time - to drop off HER KIDS' clothing (which she received gratis) for consignment.

Anonymous said...

IMO, the book's dwindling ratings/sales are a direct result of the controversy and negative public opinion that surround them.
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And also the fact that word is it's nothing special.....

Anonymous said...

No, I did not really see all of the laundry room episode. I saw most of it, But I was un sure what the big deal was. I have mixed feelings on the show and Kate. I at first loved it, partly because I have a singel child, and now twins, and we are trying again, but now with all I have been hearing/reading I am strating to see the family in there true light, now that I watch the show with a different mind set I notice the things being brought up on the board more now then I did befor.

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Are you anon who has 3 kids (original post 10/26) ? I am one person who responded to you,(I think quite respectfully) and I hope you didn't think you were being attacked. That episode is considered one of the worst in terms of showcasing Kate's horrible parenting and also her terrible treatment of Joel. If you are the original commenter, I appreciate you coming back to say that you had not seen the actual episode, and now you know what the fuss was all about.

Anonymous said...

Someone on here wants to be Kate's realtor. I can't think of any other reason for the house posts. Let us know how that works out.

DirtyDisher

Anonymous said...

What a great book about this verse! When we are tempted to treat others less than well, we need to remember that God loves us and created each of us equally no matter our abilities, appearance or talents! I admit, sometimes that is a very hard thing to do!!!!! Lord, please help us to treat others the way we want to be treated remembering that you love us and created us equally!!!!! Amen.

I find it interesting that Kate makes references to the Golden Rule in her the devotional for the week. It was only recently that I posted a comment within the contents of this blog referencing the Golden Rule and how it DOES NOT apply to the Gosselin family.

Anonymous said...

Lonnyswife said...
The crap that continues to come out of Kate's mouth is mind boggling to say the least.
Does she not hear/read how contradictory her statements sound?
Do unto others??

IMO, Kate references God in a way to dissolve herself from having to accept any personal accountability for her own actions. Kate does not heed the word of God she utilizes and self interpets 'his' word on the occassion that is most befitting to her own self serving agenda.

tripletsmom said...

My sister gave me the book after she read it. I just finished reading it, but I didn't learn anything new. I think the book is for people who don't watch the show.

Anonymous said...

No, I did not really see all of the laundry room episode. I saw most of it, But I was un sure what the big deal was."

I don't get why you would question the opinion of others and judge it if you only saw a portion of it and not the entire episode. Even if I had not seen any of the episode and heard that someone stuck their 4 yr old on a laundry room floor so he wouldn't mess anything up, it would make me sick. THAT is what the big deal is. Sticking a 4 yr old on a laundry room floor because he's sick is good? Uh, no. Then she proceeded to put a medical mask on and complain as she hosed it off. This was after she had howled something to the effect of "Joel! Not on the comforter! Lordy bee!" or some crazy thing like that. She got the freakin things for free as usual, and last I checked you could wash bedding in those (free) industrial strength washers of hers!

Anonymous said...

I don't think the books sales are dwindling....this is from yesterdays NY Times Bestseller list--they are #5:
HARDCOVER NONFICTION
Top 5 at a Glance
1. THE SNOWBALL, by Alice Schroeder
2. A BOLD FRESH PIECE OF HUMANITY, by Bill O’Reilly
3. DEWEY, by Vicki Myron with Bret Witter
4. HERE’S THE STORY, by Maureen McCormick
5. MULTIPLE BLESSINGS, by Jon Gosselin, Kate Gosselin and Beth Carson
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Hmmmmm....interesting. #4 is the book by Maureen McCormick, formerly Marcia Brady of The Brady Bunch, who had so many issues as a result of being a child star. Interesting juxtaposition, don't you think??

Anonymous said...

Under " new episodes" you guys list Valentine's Day...isn't that a re-run?

Anonymous said...

Hmmmmm....interesting. #4 is the book by Maureen McCormick, formerly Marcia Brady of The Brady Bunch, who had so many issues as a result of being a child star. Interesting juxtaposition, don't you think??
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I went to look this up online and here is the link to the prologue from Maureen's McCormick's book:
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/harper-gms/Heres-the-Story-Prologue.pdf
This little section is just a taste of what her years as "Marcia Brady" were like for her. The future cannot be bright for the Gosselin kids if the show keeps up - even though major damage has already been done. But we will keep hoping for a turnaround.

Anonymous said...

It's telling that Marcia Brady's book is right above the Gosselins's on the NY Times list. Like this is what you'll be turning your kids life into if you keep this up, yeah you're just one step away Jon & Kate.

Anonymous said...

Hi all-

In preparation for tonight's episode (which I will not watch, I will wait for the recap), I want to repost the response I received from the Grand Wailea Hotel:
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Aloha ,

Thank you for sharing your concerns. We always welcome the feedback of our guests. I would like for you to know it was us, the Grand Wailea, who invited the Gosselin kids to stay at our resort so they can have a wonderful vacation, experience the beauty of Maui and the fun activity pools and slides other kids that have visited our property thoroughly enjoy. Our team members have met the Gosselin kids. They are great kids who deserved to have a fun vacation.
Also, to inform you, the Grand Wailea did not fully host the Gosselins. We did not host the family’s airfares, transportation and activities around the island.

Thank you again for your note. I will look at the website that you have recommended.

Christina, Director Public Relations and Marketing

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I couldn't remember when I first posted this, so I did a Google search. This blurb was actually posted to another pro-G website and the person who posted it referred to me as a "nutjob", which I find amusing.

I am an educated mom of 2, come from a nice family , born and raised in the midwest, and consider myself totally and almost boringly (is that a word, Kate?) normal.

It never ceases to amaze me how the pro-G fans can't/won't see Kate for who she really is, but call someone like ME a nutjob.

Anyway, I hope after the episode airs that the GW will be FLOODED with emails (remember to be polite!).

Anonymous said...

I don't know if it has been said yet or not, but I know of another publicity talk show appearance. Tomorrow, October 28, Kate is going to be on Bonnie Hunt's new talk show.

http://www.bonniehunt.com/thisweek/index.php

"Kate Gosselin, star of the reality-television show ‘Jon & Kate Plus 8,’ takes some time off from her busy mom schedule to discuss the ups and downs of raising a set of twins as well as a set of sextuplets!" (From the show's site)

Daydream Believer said...

http://news.aol.com/article/sextuplets-born-to-new-york-couple/226440?icid=100214839x1211823560x1200718065


A set of septuplets were born in NY last month. The dad is a maintenance worker. They already have one child. Maybe J & K can help them? OR.... are they going to take focus and charity away from J & K??

HW said...

I just saw a repeat of Jon and Kate Plus 8 - probably because new episode is scheduled for tonight.

Jon sent Collin away from the table because he was crying and refusing to eat his cereal. Kate, of course, told him that if he can't discipline without yelling he should leave the kids alone. By the way, Jon didn't even raise his voice. So my question for Kate is why she gets to yell at the kids all the time, but criticizes Jon for merely disciplining them.

"NO MORE STRAWBERRIES!!!"

"WHO WOULD GIVE YOU GUM!!?? I'M THROWING AWAY YOUR TEDDY BEAR...WE DON'T CHEW GUM AT THREE!!"

"SHE'S RUINED, ABSOLUTELY RUINED."

Oh, and the episode before that was the bed-buying episode. There are so many things wrong with these parents in this episode I can't even type it all.

Anonymous said...

A set of septuplets were born in NY last month. The dad is a maintenance worker. They already have one child. Maybe J & K can help them? OR.... are they going to take focus and charity away from J & K??
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IIRC, there was a quote from Kate saying something like " after you have 2 sets of HOM then come talk to me about how I can help you" or something of that nature. Let's see if Kate follows through, or once again shows that she is all talk, talk, talk but no walk, walk, walk.

dotsicle said...

A set of sextuplets were born in NY last month. The dad is a maintenance worker. They already have one child.
Bless their hearts! I read a story that showed that donations of baby needs was being taken, but MONEY was NOT being accepted. This is the kind of family I'd be willing to help.

SallySunshine said...

Hello everyone! Such a great site. Most courteous sight I've seen so far! I'd like to comment that on the "Sight & Sound" episode, when Alexis got her stuffed animal and Cara asked her what it's name was she said "Carson". Isn't that Beth's last name?? Interesting!! Very interesting! Oh, and Kate's "Golden Rule" post was like reading really bad fan fiction. Kate's got a career in fiction when the kids grow up and abandon her. Also LOVED the Soup and "Jon minus 9". Amen brother! You can hire Madonna's divorce lawyer - you can afford it now (although I don't condone divorce. A couple should try to work things out. I'm just saying that he can afford to run with the kids now. Run Jon Run!).

SallySunshine said...

The Bonnie Hunt show has a forum for discussion. I started a line for Kate and how no one should watch it lest they be sucked into her vortex of selfishness. She's a succubus of selfishness! Check out http://community.bonniehunt.com/forum/topic/show?id=2248152%3ATopic%3A34399

and thanks!!!

Chris said...

Anonymous said...
I don't know if it has been said yet or not, but I know of another publicity talk show appearance. Tomorrow, October 28, Kate is going to be on Bonnie Hunt's new talk show.

http://www.bonniehunt.com/thisweek/index.php

"Kate Gosselin, star of the reality-television show ‘Jon & Kate Plus 8,’ takes some time off from her busy mom schedule to discuss the ups and downs of raising a set of twins as well as a set of sextuplets!" (From the show's site)

10/27/2008 2:22 PM


Who the hell is Bonnie Hunt?

Anonymous said...

Check out this article:

http://www.jesuslives.co.za/2008/10/25/tv-couple-seeks-to-put-god-first-network-edits-out-references-to-him/

Kon claim that TLC edits out any reference they make to God and religion. Yeah, good try, but that does not hold up now that the Duggars have talked about God on their show.

Anonymous said...

"My sister gave me the book after she read it. I just finished reading it, but I didn't learn anything new. I think the book is for people who don't watch the show."

The book is for whoever is willing to pay for it and contribute to further padding the Gosselin's nest.

Anonymous said...

maybe the Gosselins can donate some of the items that they have been "blessed" with to this NY family that just had sextuplets

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2008/10/26/2008-10-26_secret_of_their_6cess_queens_couple_vict.html

Alexandra Marie said...

Anonymous said...
I have read numerous comments about how the Gosselins "exploit their children". I personally don't feel that way and I am just wondering what the difference is between the Gosselins and the celebrities who sell their children's pictures to magazines for millions of dollars. Have their movies been boycotted or criticized?

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Celebrities usually do this so that the paparazzi do not take drastic moves in order to get the first glimpse of a celebrity child... so usually it is a means of protecting the child as well as making money, that is usually donated to a charity.
Also, these celebrities are not making a living off of their children. They are not exploiting them on national television for season after season. Additionally, many of these celebrities try to cover their children's faces when they go in public places, or at least stage a few shots for the pap's so that they will not endanger the child.

The two are totally different.

Anonymous said...

Referencing the Duggar family. Please, this woman doesn't raise her own children. Of course she sees it as wonderful, she only has them 6 months while they are nursing, then a "buddy" takes over.

Also, I watch J&K plus 8 every week, bought the book and really enjoyed it. Most information was somethings I knew, but it was heard differently and I am glad I read it.

Anonymous said...

A set of sextuplets were born in NY last month. The dad is a maintenance worker. They already have one child.
Bless their hearts! I read a story that showed that donations of baby needs was being taken, but MONEY was NOT being accepted. This is the kind of family I'd be willing to help.

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I just read a story about them on yahoo before coming here and they didn't want to announce the birth of the babies because they wanted to make sure they were all healthy first. One had a heart condition and the doctors didn't think she would pull through, but she has. It's nice that they are remaining humble so far and not letting the publicity go to their heads.

Anonymous said...

Please, this woman doesn't raise her own children. Of course she sees it as wonderful, she only has them 6 months while they are nursing, then a "buddy" takes over.

Also, I watch J&K plus 8 every week, bought the book and really enjoyed it.
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Here we go again:

When do you ever see Kate Gosselin parenting ? She sits on a chair (in the family room or in the garage) and barks orders at Jon. She doesn't get Mady and Cara fed and off to school in the mornings (nor does she ever meet the bus in the afternoons), she doesn't get the tups ready in the morning, she doesn't bathe the kids, she doesn't monitor homework,she doesn't cook much, she can't be bothered to break up "every little fight" , she doesn't encourage the kids to share, she shows blatant favoritism for a few of the kids, she doesn't know if her own child is near or far sighted and didn't really care to know his last progress report on his vision at his well child visit, she cares more about picking out bunk beds than her severly constipated and hurting child, she makes a very ill child sleep in the laundry room because she's sick and tired of cleaning up vomit.....

Need I say anymore ? Where exactly do you see any parenting here, and how on earth do you enjoy the show?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A set of sextuplets were born in NY last month. The dad is a maintenance worker. They already have one child.
Bless their hearts! I read a story that showed that donations of baby needs was being taken, but MONEY was NOT being accepted. This is the kind of family I'd be willing to help.

Hopefully this family will NOT follow in the footsteps of J & K's 'who are we to say no' logic and be of the ability to just say NO when TLC as well as other supporters of child exploitation come knocking at their door.

SallySunshine said...

I ventured over to the Bonnie Hunt site and noticed that the "sheeple" are pouring the kool-aid on that site!! The juggernaut of PR must have someone 24/7 to do damage control!! KON's payroll now includes: undefined number of nannies; personal chef; bus-driver; production crew; internet surfing damage control goons; PR firm with no scruples; GAP stylist; personal assistant to Mrs. Gosselin; miscellaneous lackies. I wonder what the production costs are per episode if they have to pay that many people!!

Judy said...

What I would like to know is HOW do they get around not talking about Beth during all these interviews they have been doing lately because of their book.
They have been on several shows and NO ONE has asked about Beth or their missing family?

I honestly don't understand how this can be avoided forever?

I truly wish Beth would set the record straight. I hope she is not being kept quiet because of contracts.

Anonymous said...

Actually Sallysunshine it looks like there is more KON bashing than sheeple on Bonnie Hunt's website.

Anonymous said...

I have a new show idea. How about following REAL women around with infertility struggles. The daily injection shots, the cost of IVF. Hocking the house or cashing in your 401K for the dream to have ONE baby. The disappointment of a -test. The pain of a miscarriage that started with your first +. The women that struggle with infertility and men on a daily basis. That is how J&K started. They make is sound so easy. OOHHH we decided to try again and BAM we got 6. Time for TLC to wake up and show what real women suffer with.

Anonymous said...

On Bonnie Hunt site it says it is just Kate with no mention of Jon and kids there. We have never seen this before on another talk show. I wonder how this will be different because of this. I would think people watch the show for the kids not Kate.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone read about the woman in New York who just gave birth to sextuplets? Actually, she gave birth awhile ago but the family and doctors kept it under wraps to avoid the media and to ensure all the babies survived. Their local councilman is accepting donations on their behalf (diapers,formula etc.) but specially said NO CASH. Good for them. I was afraid that Kon had set a bad precedent and that every couple giving birth to sextuplets would be looking for handouts their entire life!

Anonymous said...

On the news story for the new sextuplets lots of people, including me, wrote negative comments about KON at the bottom : )

Anonymous said...

I can't resist comparing the Gosselins with the Roloffs. There is one similarity in that Amy Roloff does demean her husband, Matt. However, the Roloffs are real people who live in and are engaged in and with the real world. In the Roloff shows, we see hordes of family, friends, neighbors in their home and sharing their lives. In J & K, you only see them, period. It is pathetic because there are no grandparents, cousins, brothers, sisters, friends, neighbors sharing lives and celebrating holidays. The kids will catch on just as the viewing public has and the kids will rebel leaving J & K two very lonely people in the end.

dixietrixie said...

Have you seen the lastest post on Julie's blog? She is taking down most of her posts so that Jodi can move on from the past....

Addison said...

We talked about Jon and Kate + 8 today in my documentary class. My teacher and the class agreed that it was beyond disgusting in terms of exploitation.

Marie said...

Addison said...
We talked about Jon and Kate + 8 today in my documentary class. My teacher and the class agreed that it was beyond disgusting in terms of exploitation.
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Weird because last week my neice in high school said they were showing episodes in her Child Development class. I asked for a bunch of details she said the teacher spoke nothing but good about this circus act. Now KON is making their way into our kids highschools. Great.

Addison said...

Wow...ick! How could anyone (especially a Child Development teacher) consider J and K a positive example of child development to show the class? There are plenty of examples of the negative impact of cameras and bad parenting effect development, however. I think it would be a great thing to show students about how NOT to be a parent.

Anonymous said...

parasite: 1) a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return; 2) Jon and Kate

Anonymous said...

Weird because last week my neice in high school said they were showing episodes in her Child Development class. I asked for a bunch of details she said the teacher spoke nothing but good about this circus act. Now KON is making their way into our kids highschools. Great.
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Would you be willing to contact the school regarding this? I find it absolutely horrifying that this family, namely KON, would be glorified in any way to a class full of eager-to-learn-and-easily-swayed students.

If that happened at my kids' schools, I would be on the horn immediately.

tardy4party said...

Maybe they're using J & K + 8 for birth control-- JUST SAY NO!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Weird because last week my neice in high school said they were showing episodes in her Child Development class. I asked for a bunch of details she said the teacher spoke nothing but good about this circus act. Now KON is making their way into our kids highschools. Great.

I have a huge problem with this. Im not understanding why a high school child development teacher would be using episodes of the reality show J & K + 8 as part of his teaching cirriculum. Is the teacher advocating this reality show as an educational tool as it relates to the greater understanding of the subject of child development? Or,is the teacher using the J & K reality show as part of his teaching cirriculum because in his opinion, the premise of the show is one that he personally agrees with. I could care less whether this teacher loves or hates the show. he can watch it on his own time. I am/would be more bothered by the fact he/she is using episodes of this reality show as an example in his high school teaching cirriculum and not incorporating any relevance to the subject of child development. It would be interesting to know what the 'good' this teacher speaks of regarding the J & k reality show. Good as it applies to being a worthy educational tool for a child development class, or 'good' in that he personally condones what J & K represent?

Niki said...

I got this from IMDB:

J&K and the kids will be on the 700 Club on Thursday October 30th.

http://www.cbn.com/700club/

click Thursday's show

Anonymous said...

Marie said...

Addison said...
We talked about Jon and Kate + 8 today in my documentary class. My teacher and the class agreed that it was beyond disgusting in terms of exploitation.
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Weird because last week my neice in high school said they were showing episodes in her Child Development class. I asked for a bunch of details she said the teacher spoke nothing but good about this circus act. Now KON is making their way into our kids highschools. Great.
Well, I hope parents speak up and let them know that TV shows are not educating children. Could school teachers get any lazier? If there is any lesson to learn form this show is fertility treatment in America needs tighter regulations. Everytime I hear about another HOM birth I want to shake the greed doctors that can't control the desire for profit over saying no to proceeding when there are to many ripe follicles.
I guess there are what NOT to do lesson to learn by I'd hope parents for the most part have taught their children to be respectful to family, give thanks to those that help you and beware of Greeks bearing gifts. Oh, yeah, Kate and Jon may be loving those freebies now but when the kids are acting out their screwed up emotions by drinking, drugging and screwing around or worse will it have been worth it. I'd love for Kate to be on a show with a couple of former child actors, perhaps Maureen McCormick who could give her a little chat.
I hope parents that find out that their children's teacher are watching this crap instead of being taught actual material that will assist them in life have a chat with the principal.

quinn said...

I just thought of a couple of things...first of all I can't believe the nerve of Kate bringing in her free clothes to a consignment shop. I've known that she does this but my gosh couldn't she "pay it forward" and donate them?

Also think of how sad it is that the kids are working at such a young age. But to think that their HOME is the SET of a tv show. Wow that's just horrible. It really bothers me when I catch a glimpse of those bright lights they have throughout their house. It's like they're totally living in a fishbowl, on the Truman show, whatever. It's so sad. I can't believe it's allowed to go on in today's world.

Anonymous said...

After reading (on this site) that Kon will be interviewed by the 700 club Live on Thursday..I respectfully asked them to do their research before the interview. I gave them this link to aide in their research. I encourage you to do the same. Here is the link:
http://www.cbn.com/contact/feedback-700club.aspx
Thanks!

Moons in Leo said...

*Hand raised* Don't understand the PA real estate listings either. Is one of the moderators an agent?

I would rather drive steel spikes through my skull than watch the 700 Club. Could we just have a recap please?

Anonymous said...

"Weird because last week my neice in high school said they were showing episodes in her Child Development class. I asked for a bunch of details she said the teacher spoke nothing but good about this circus act. Now KON is making their way into our kids high schools. Great."

This is a copyright and legal issue as well. Privately taped VCR or DVR recordings are never legally allowed to be rebroadcast to a group. If the teacher purchased a DVD from TLC there still may be copyright constraints about showing it to a group. Disney has prosecuted schools and day cares several times for doing this exact thing. I am the LAST person to be saying J + K need MORE royalties or income off the backs of their kids but the child development teacher or her principals should realize this creates a legal problem for the school. Just what J + K need, more excuses to haul out the self-authored cease and desist letters!

Anonymous said...

I was just reading our local community forum (Tampa Bay) and there was a posting stating that Gymboree was going bankrupt and closing (our area, anyway)....wonder if it's due to the Gosselins snatching up free clothing, instead of paying for them. tee hee

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I was just reading our local community forum (Tampa Bay) and there was a posting stating that Gymboree was going bankrupt and closing (our area, anyway)....wonder if it's due to the Gosselins snatching up free clothing, instead of paying for them. tee hee

10/29/2008 2:02 PM

Interesting that you say that, Ann Taylor Loft is in dire straits as well, several of their stores have closed in my area including a location at a high end mall.
Kmart has also closed many of their stores nationwide for economic and financial reasons.

Anonymous said...

Gymboree was going bankrupt and closing (our area, anyway) Perhaps a message from God. For your part in exploiting minor children in hopes of selling more overpriced clothing for parents to try and collect in efforts to keep up with the Gosselins you will go bankrupt and out of business. And Sears/K-mart aren't on great financial ground so why are they tempting fate? Foolish.

Anonymous said...

Don't go around saying the world owes you a living.
The world owes you nothing. It was here first.

- Mark Twain

Anonymous said...

If you can't post this can you please email me why? Kittie5966@aol.com

Im not a J&K fan or anything i just wanted to know if there was any info i could get from this.

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I have a few questions if anyone can answer.

When did Jon stop working for Bob? Also if Jon wouldn't have announced it on the show would anyone know he ever worked for Bob?

Why did Jodi wait until she was not on the show anymore to come out with such strong feelings against this show? While filming in her own home at the time was ok, but now she feels the kids are being exploited.

With all the negative publicity that has been coming out over the past few months why are shows still having them on? They are not getting anything out of it other then ratings maybe.

Who here is apart of the Neilson Family? If you stopped watching because you do not want to contribute to ratings they don't matter.

ThreePumpkins said...

With all the negative publicity that has been coming out over the past few months why are shows still having them on? They are not getting anything out of it other then ratings maybe.

While I don't feel ambitious enough to tackle all your questions, I will take a stab at this one.

What you have to keep in mind while seeing J and/or K all over TV lately is that as many of us profusely write letters in an effort to get them out of the limelight, they have both a marketing team and a stack of high-profile sponsors who are working diligently to get them ON these programs.

Sometimes it's a give and take situation, for example, if Kmart is buying time on the Bonnie Hunt show, they can work a deal to get Kate, their endorser, on the show. It's also important to note that J&K+8 is a very popular show in certain demographics (you'll notice that Kate hasn't been making any Letterman appearances) and shows want to have whoever is popular among their viewers on the show.

The campaign against the Gosselin's exploitation about their children is only recently picking up steam with the help of Paul Petersen and AMC, two stories in the National Enquirer, and the recent coverage on CNN Headline News. Hopefully reports from other media are forthcoming.

Unfortunately, the truth about the Gosselins doesn't exactly smack the general public across the head. Many of us, I believe, found the truth only after seeking it out.

Anonymous said...

When did Jon stop working for Bob?

I don't think he ever worked for Bob. It seemed like a ruse to cover that he was no longer employed except for the show.

Why did Jodi wait until she wasn't on the show to speak out? Jodi waited until she was no longer in the children's lives to speak out. As long as she was in their lives, she could help.

Regarding the Nielsen question, I watch on a non-Nielsen TV set. I'll inconvenience myself to avoid them getting that one person.

Jen said...

"This is a copyright and legal issue as well. Privately taped VCR or DVR recordings are never legally allowed to be rebroadcast to a group."

Actually, teachers are allowed to show a single copy of a television show to a class for education purposes. This does not qualify as copyright infringement under the "fair use" rule.

So, we don't need to worry about KON cashing in on copyright infringement! ;) I am just horrified to learn that a teacher is promoting KON's behavior in an educational setting, however. That is completely bizarre to me.

Jen said...

Why did Jodi wait until she wasn't on the show to speak out?

I can't speak for her, but I believe that Jodi frequently expressed concern to the producers and to KON about the possibility of exploitation. I have a sense that she was trying to fix the problem from within, advocating for the kids and giving them a "safe haven" with her home.

Anonymous said...

Check this out from entertainment tonight's site:

"The Doctors"'s star Dr. Lisa Masterson joined the show's producer Jay McGraw for the launch of a new book advising people on how to do things faster.

The book, entitled The Experts' Guide To Doing Things Faster, was written by Samantha Ettus and unveiled at Rande Gerber's Whiskey Park in New York on Monday night.

Other experts giving tips for increased speediness include Richard Branson, Kate Gosselin, Sally Hershberger and Golden Girl Rue McClanahan, who has been married 6 times and gives advice on recovering from a breakup faster.

What exactly is Kate an expert on?

Chris said...

Hmmmm, are the pictures to the above "mystery" home the same home Jon and Kate are supposedly moving into this week?

Sara said...

I was just watching Little People Big World on TLC and commercials came along. Clorox has made the "GumGate" situation into a commercial that is playing on TLC! Now isn't that just another slap in the face to Jodi!!

Anonymous said...

Email from GH magazine..Looking fwd to seeing what they print!
Dear Reader,

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on our Gosselin story with the GH staff.

We hear your concerns about our decision to feature the family in our magazine. And, since we truly value reader feedback, we want other readers to hear the concerns raised, too.

So we’re going to publish some of the letters we received about the Gosselins—both positive and negative—in a future issue, on the “On Your Mind” page. We hope that sharing these letters with you shows how important your feedback is to our pages and to the entire GH community.

Many thanks,
Marjorie Cubisino, Director
Consumer & Reader Services
Good Housekeeping Research Institute

Anonymous said...

"We talked about Jon and Kate + 8 today in my documentary class. My teacher and the class agreed that it was beyond disgusting in terms of exploitation."

Addison,
It would be cool if as a class project the class could write letters to the labor dept about the description of a real documentery, and exploitation.

Addison said...

That would be a cool idea! I'll ask my teacher about that. We are pretty busy in that class as is since we are all making our own documentaries (and we have like...four weeks left to do them :( Still, it would be nice to set TLC straight on what a documentary should be like since they insist on calling JK+8 "a documentary style day-in-the-life show" or whatever.

my9cats said...

OMG Just got next weeks issue of TV Guide. Who's on the inside cover? Two pages? Yup, "America;s favorite family". Barf barf barf.....
The sheeple must be in their glory.

RC said...

Was clicking around Yahoo TV and came across this funny slide-show of Halloween costume ideas based on television shows. The J&K picture (#15 out of 16) cracked me up.

http://tv.yahoo.com/falltv/photos/dressing-the-tv-part-for-halloween/374

avasmommy said...

Sara said...
I was just watching Little People Big World on TLC and commercials came along. Clorox has made the "GumGate" situation into a commercial that is playing on TLC! Now isn't that just another slap in the face to Jodi!!

In what sort? I am really curious how they made this into a commercial. Does it show Jodi and the kids in the commercial or do they reference it?

Anonymous said...

Email I just got from GH. My letter follows below it:


Dear Reader,

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on our Gosselin story with the GH staff.

We hear your concerns about our decision to feature the family in our magazine. And, since we truly value reader feedback, we want other readers to hear the concerns raised, too.

So we’re going to publish some of the letters we received about the Gosselins—both positive and negative—in a future issue, on the “On Your Mind” page. We hope that sharing these letters with you shows how important your feedback is to our pages and to the entire GH community.

Many thanks,
Marjorie Cubisino, Director
Consumer & Reader Services
Good Housekeeping Research Institute



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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:06 AM
To: Good Housekeeping, Editor
Subject: Upcoming Cover


Good afternoon,

I saw the episode of Jon & Kate Plus Eight and was extremely disappointed to see they are going to be on the cover of your magazine. As a subscriber and long time reader I had come to expect that what is endorsed by Good Housekeeping is wholesome and decent. Now I feel I was wrong. Someone did not do their research.

This couple is not the same caliber as the other families of multiples such as the McCoughey's who usually grace your cover. This couple is an embarrassment who refuse to work yet constantly have their hand out for freebies or are dropping very obvious product placements constantly. They exist solely from the exploitation of their 8 children. It is a shame the way those kids are treated. Does anyone at your magazine ever watch the show? She is an awful mother and she does not do anything on her own either. They have a live in nanny, a chef, craft services, a housekeeper, gardener, etc. This is all paid for by TLC because they choose to parade their children out like trained animals to make a living. No one need feel inadequate as a mother because most of us mother are doing things ourselves and do not rely on others to raise our children while we try to get exposure and cash

These people do not give back to their community. They sell the free items they get in consignment shops for a profit rather than donate them. The often do damage control on their show in a reaction to all the negative responses they get, so recently they did hold a garage sale for charity. However, not only did they sell all the free clothes and other items they have been given, but they also only gave $1000 to charity when they have made millions not only with the show but with bilking churches out of $25,000 speaking engagements and selling $20 autographed photos of their family. They also used the garage sale event as an episode of the show so they will be paid their usual $65,000 per episode fee. It does not work out to be much for charity at all when you consider all that. Soon they will be given a huge, free house in NC by their production company.

Good Housekeeping should not endorse such a family. The mother is cruel to both her children and husband and should not be represented by an upstanding magazine. To hear her lie and do things such as show up in my Sunday coupon flyer giving "helpful" tips for saving money is a joke. They don't care about saving money. Also, this magazine should represent strong family values, yet it is a documented fact that they have alienated all of their family and many of their former friends due to their greed and rudeness.

Please be more careful in the future with the people chosen to be on your cover. If you happen to print an apology of sorts and say something to the effect of your magazine not condoning the behavior of the Gosselin family, I will be much more likely to continue to subscribe to the magazine.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen the clorox one, but the VW vehicle one, with Brooke Shields reminds me making fun of the show when I watch it. I'm sure that's not what they were aiming for, but as soon as I saw it, KON came to mind..lol

Anonymous said...

What exactly is Kate an expert on?
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Scamming and lying!

Anonymous said...

I just saw the halloween costume aricle on Yahoo. The descriptions were very funny. And sidenote: the picture used is the same one from the second National Enquirer.

Anonymous said...

My response from Good Housekeeping was exactly the same. They must just be mass mailing them to everyone who wrote in. I also received my email today.

Honestly, I feel like this sham will go on forever. Amazing Kate and her divine uterus can do no wrong. People are blind to the truth and do not want to believe they are being scammed by these kon-artists.

Deep down I wish someone from TLC (maybe a cameraman) will write a tell-all or show behind the scenes footage. I know they are under a nondisclosure contract but how cool would it be if someone broke the contract to save the children. Im sure they could say they had to do this to stop the madness and hire an attorney to say nondisclosure should not protect abuse.

JMO

Granny said...

I just read a blog about J&K being on the cbn network and I just listened to the interview and am shocked that they too have jumped on the bandwagon, angered is more like it! It saddens my heart to know that leaders of the Church after all that has been said and found out about J&K would endorse them. To me it is like saying, we are going to ignore all those that have spoken up concerning them and dismiss it as judging or criticising. It's really gotten backwards in this Country when even our church leaders consider speaking up for truth as simply judging or critcising for whatever reason we have been accused of speaking up over this, such as being jealous, envious, etc..etc...
That is just my take on it, cbn didn't say that in the interview but they might as well have said it considering they gave a endorement to J&k who I'm sure will now use that to say to themselves, "we are not so bad after all, look the "church leaders" endorse us and agree with us that it's all from God."

I realize that they are not everyone's church leaders but many do look to cbn, none-the-less as such. IMO, is sickening! Yes, your children are a blessing from the Lord and are to be treated as such. You have it backwards when you have your children working to keep you in your lavish lifestyle instead of you getting a real job and providing for your children. But we all know how good you are at making excuses and twisting the truth about that.

Well, I did contact cbn and shared with them how I felt about this situation and how I felt they should have at least offered prayer for the loss of their extended family members that Kate has cast out and how it might have been wise for cbn to have researched this family before giving them a endorsement to promote their book "multiple blessings." Why isn't anyone mentioning Beth, her name is on the book? But then again, I'm sure Kate has a answer all memorized for that question should it arise.
I wish Beth would come out and talk but sure she is under some contract not to talk, sad. Anyway, I've vented enough, thank you for listening.

Anonymous said...

At first I thought the media blitz by the Gosselins was due to the book, but a lightbulb just went off and I wonder what you think.

Is all of the media/sponsorship/increased product placements, etc, because the advertisers have so much money invested in 'future' episodes - as in the special wedding 'month' and of course the new house unveiling that we have to look forward to?
Advertisers have to recoup their money from us buying their products.

IMO the best way to put the brakes on the exploitation and abuse of the kids is to start attacking the show from the back end. In other words - start with advertisers and tell them we'll stop buying their products because they support the show.

I haven't written to any advertisers yet, but plan to start watching the 'commercials' and writing the manufacturers. I'm also going to write the sponsors of other shows the family appears on.

Obviously, as long as TLC can sell big dollar ad space on the show they're making money and are happy. I hope my letters and boycots of their products has some effect. Anyone willing to write with me or give me tips? Thanks!

Niki said...

This is a People magazine post about Kate's tips for the holidays:

http://tinyurl.com/5qrqlk

ThreePumpkins said...

This is a People magazine post about Kate's tips for the holidays:

http://tinyurl.com/5qrqlk


Those hair plugs must not have taken. One of the first things I noticed about this photo is Jon in the background with the light bouncing off the top of his head.

He could signal Mars with that. Maybe that's how Kate talks to God.

Sara said...

The Clorox commercial shows Matt Roloff telling the boys they can't take pop upstairs bc they are messy... then it switches to Kate discovering the gum on Joel's sock and yelling "Who would give you gum?" With the "We don't chew gum when we're three" thrown in there too. So it's not specifically showing Jodi, but in reference to the big blow up.

Anonymous said...

I found more disgusting news that a new 'gift' book titled 'Eight Little Faces, A Mom's Journey' will be released next spring. It should be titled 'Eight Exploited Faces, A Parent's Free Ride'.

www.ecpa.org/rush/pr23.html

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why someone that knows them does not come forward in a major way and try to put an end to their free ride on the backs of those kids.

dotsicle said...

Soon they will be given a huge, free house in NC by their production company.

I am not so sure that they are moving to NC. And also not sure that TLC is footing the bill for any house they move to. That may be where the G's $$$ is going..... to pay for the house. Hope they thank the kids for buying it for them, if that's the case.
I have read rumors that they are in the process of moving NOW.

Anonymous said...

This is a People magazine post about Kate's tips for the holidays:

http://tinyurl.com/5qrqlk


I'm curious who the 15 people are that she has for Thanksgiving... certainly not family. The camera crew?

Anonymous said...

There are people who exaggerate so much that they can't tell the truth without lying. Mark Twain

Anonymous said...

"Are you anon who has 3 kids (original post 10/26) ? I am one person who responded to you,(I think quite respectfully)........."
Yes I am the same person. (with the 3 kids)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


For the life of me, I cannot figure out why someone that knows them does not come forward in a major way and try to put an end to their free ride on the backs of those kids.


Between Jon&Kate personally, Figure-8, and TLC, there is a lot of money that can hire a boatload of crafty lawyers. Who among their estranged family and/or former friends and employees has the kind of resources to counter that, or would risk bankrupting themselves to fight a barrage of lawsuits and injunctions?

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