Free Discussion 10/11-10/17

For discussion about the Gosselins where you can't find a more appropriate home for comments.

49 comments:

Judy said...

Does anyone know what happened to Carla? Didn't she used to help Kate out quite a bit?

I keep wondering if any of these people will come forward with blogs or interviews/articles?

I have a feeling J&K have attorneys that keep people from talking :(

Rosey in Washington said...

Hey Judy! I have also wondered why Carla isnt on the show anymore. But its probably for the same reasons every other friend and family member got ditched.

She must have had a falling out with Kate...big suprise there. Carla must have said something that precious Kate did not like, so she was banned forever.

Anonymous said...

Carla has gotten full time eployment outside of the home I have been told. Her daughter Ashley attends college in VA. She told someone I know quite well that confidentiality agreements were signed by all involved parties. I don't think there was a major fall apart, just gradual distancing.

Anonymous said...

About the book...wouldn't this be a good time for Kate's parents and Jon's Mom to come forward and let the fans know why they aren't "involved in their everyday lives"? Kate and Jon have said the family memebers have made that choice and seem to take no responsibility.

momof5 said...

Does anyone know how these 'confidentiality agreements' work? Are they binding forever or just for a certain period of time? I'm just wondering if all of the people who had to sign them to be on the show or involved with the family will ever be able to come forward with what they know?

sabrinasmom said...

Does anyone know how these 'confidentiality agreements' work?

I don't know, but if you are not one of their "employees" how could you "they" possibly "force" you to sign one? I think you can just say "no". Forgive me I am wrong, but I think, Julie mentioned, when Jon and Kate backtracked a bit they offered Jodi and Kevin something minimal in exchange for their "silence". According to Julie, Jodi and Kevin both refused.

Anonymous said...

From what I've read you either sign the agreement or you're no longer involved with them. My understanding of what Julie said was that Jodi was approached after she had pretty much been cut out about signing the agreement and said no way.

Anonymous said...

"Does anyone know what happened to Carla? Didn't she used to help Kate out quite a bit?"
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Awhile back, someone posted here on GWoP that Carla has been doing yard work for KON and getting paid by TLC. Not sure if that's right or not, but that's what I read.

Anonymous said...

I am really curious about if there will be a book tour. When the book first came out it only had kate and Beths name on it now Jon's name as been added? hmmm makes ya think. Beth has not been on any shows lately either. So like I said how will book tours go, with Beth be with them and if not someone will ask where is this person Beth Carson (who wrote the book) wow this will be fun to see how Jon and Kate surgar coat it.

Twinner said...

Jon's name was probably added to split the royalties 3 ways so Kate will get more than Beth but I bet it just burns Kate's butt that Beth is making money off HER kids.

Beth doesn't need the money though and I would think no amount of money would make up for missing those sweet kids.

I saw the book today (in Coles bookstore in Canada) It was in the "Religion-Christianity-General" section. Its dedicated to Jon (why with his name as a author would he dedicate it to himself...) and to grandma and grandpa.

Anonymous said...

Beth...that's the affluent, cultured person with the fancy house where the Gosselin clan had their Family Photo Shoot? Hard to believe she wrote (who's kidding who here that either Jon or Kate wrote one word? We've all heard Kate and Jon's malapropisms, neither one of them could pass 4th grade English) that book and then just rolled over and let them erase her name. Then again maybe she just has too much class and better things to do with her money than go after them in court, so they probably reached some kind of a settlement. If I was Beth, I would write my own tell-all book about the reality behind the reality-show. I bet she has a ton of juicy insider anecdotes. She could co-write it with Jodi. I'd buy a copy of that one, which is more than I can say for JK's book of BS.

Anonymous said...

I know that I may be beating a dead horse here, but I really find it disgusting that grown adults would make you tube videos or my space fan pages of the Gosselin clan. As a parent I would be p*ssed if people were taking their time to put this stuff together. I know they are on TV but come on, making videos of other peoples kids is WEIRD!! Than to top it all off, these weirdos talk about which kid is their favorite. The Gosselin kids will never get to live a normal life.

Anne said...

In next week's People magazine it will have a viewers comment for last weeks issue(which had the Gosselins in it) I am encouraging any and all who find issue with the Gosselins and how the children are being exploited ie; no labor laws for the kids. All the freebees jon and kate get, and so on please please send an email. In the past I have read the viewer's comments and have been surprised that people had the guts/and time to write in and have their voice be heard. Please take a minute and send People an email. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I know that I may be beating a dead horse here, but I really find it disgusting that grown adults would make you tube videos or my space fan pages of the Gosselin clan. As a parent I would be p*ssed if people were taking their time to put this stuff together. I know they are on TV but come on, making videos of other peoples kids is WEIRD!! Than to top it all off, these weirdos talk about which kid is their favorite. The Gosselin kids will never get to live a normal life.


I couldn't agree more. Whenever I see one I get a really sick feeling in my stomach. Clearly, it's more evidence of the Sheeple mentality.

Althoug, I must what is just as bad as these sheeples who tape the show with a camera aimed at their tv set then post that on Youtube. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

Too bad Youtube wouldn't be willing to ban any and all J&K content.

Anonymous said...

I really wish that someone would get (at least) one of the ladies from "The View" on board with the truth behind J&K. They may not always agree about politics or practically anything else, but one thing they all agree on is shielding their children from the public eye and not exploiting them. Barbara, Joy and Whoopi have all talked about the pitfalls their (now adult) children faced while growing up with famous parents and all five of the ladies agree its creepy when the public knows their child's name, asks for a picture, etc. I can only imagine how much worse it is for the G kids.

Anonymous said...

I just sent this email to People:
(Editor@people.com)

I write to you to express my shock at and disapproval of your feature story on Jon and Kate Gosselin and their eight children. Jon and Kate Gosselin are, through allowing their children to be filmed three to four days per week for hours at a time for their reality TV series, are clearly engaging in child exploitation to generate an enormous income for themselves. These children are not merely being filmed - they are working. There are no laws to protect children in reality TV and no way to ensure that these children will ever see the income generated off their backs.

Capturing these children's lives on film in their most private and intimate moments (going to the bathroom, bathing, crying, vomiting, being sick with flu and fever and being banished to lie on the laundry room floor by their mother) is a total violation of these children's right to privacy and dignity. By running this story, People magazine is an active enabler of child exploitation. I will never buy your magazine again.

Paul Petersen (former child actor), of A Minor Consideration, an advocacy organization for children in the entertainment industry has posted several editorials on his website (www.minorcon.org) urging Jon and Kate Gosselin to end this madness now. I hope that Mr. Petersen will continue to advocate for the Gosselin children as clearly neither their parents nor People magazine are.

Anonymous said...

Kate struggle to show apprecitaion for volunteers...yet she thanks God for providing paper towels and yard service? That was the volunteers hard work. ugh! Kate learned by wishing for things outloud she got them? Now God is her personal genie? I guess she loves God because he knows "how to help her"

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I know that I may be beating a dead horse here, but I really find it disgusting that grown adults would make you tube videos or my space fan pages of the Gosselin clan. As a parent I would be p*ssed if people were taking their time to put this stuff together. I know they are on TV but come on, making videos of other peoples kids is WEIRD!! Than to top it all off, these weirdos talk about which kid is their favorite. The Gosselin kids will never get to live a normal life.


I agree 100%. I find it very disturbing that any grown responsible adult would take it upon themselves to copy and create
dedications,devotionals, and expressions of love in the form of video and post them on the internet about a complete strangers child or children. Perhaps it is the present day and age of computer technology that condones this sort of thing, but I find this sort of thing bordering on sick and twisted. In the case of the Gosselin children, I blame J & K for providing the ammunition via their choice to make their 'life a reality show, and 'reality show their life' that fuels this sort of sick and twisted dilusional internet love fest many seem to have for the Gosselin children. Celebrity or not, there is nothing acceptable about an adult that displays and devotes love for a complete stranger's child in the form of the numerous YouTube, MySpace, FaceBook referenced on the internet.

Anonymous said...

With all the controversy surrounding the Gosselins, I have always found it odd that no one from their past has ever come forward to give their take on the story. I can understand how close family would not want to add fuel to the fire in hopes of forging a relationship again in the future, but I can't believe that someone somewhere--an old boy/girl friend, classmate, distant relative--has not turned up telling their tale
in the tabloids. Surely their "gimme"/"I'm entitled to it" behavior didn't just begin now. People must really feel intimidated by J & K because I doubt they're keeping mum out of respect.

pullthegosselinplug said...

Anonymous 6:48 -
I think more people from their past or who were once in the "inner circle" do not come out publicly against Kate and Jon to spare the children. What I find more strange is that, if indeed, everything that is believed and speculated about them is NOT true, NO ONE comes publicly to their defense. I know when I first starting watching, probably January 2008 - I found a post on someone's site where Beth herself had actually posted in support of Kate, speaking of their friendship and Kate's positive qualities as a mother and person. Things are so much more heated now and since Beth spoke out once, I am sure if there was no problem between them, she would certainly do so again, in light of Julie and Jodi's stories.

Anonymous said...

I think it was Julie who came forward and said that wasn't really Beth making that response but someone using her name.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
With all the controversy surrounding the Gosselins, I have always found it odd that no one from their past has ever come forward to give their take on the story. I can understand how close family would not want to add fuel to the fire in hopes of forging a relationship again in the future, but I can't believe that someone somewhere--an old boy/girl friend, classmate, distant relative--has not turned up telling their tale
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I think they are speaking out in their own ways - through posting on various internet forums anonymously or with a fake name. But this manner of speaking out does not good at all. They need to speak out in a very public way through the legitimate mainstream news media. I have often wondered as the Gosselin scam has reached debacle proportions and the kids are at risk in so many ways, why they do not come forward. Are they that afraid of KON???? I think if I were in that situation, I would have to "drop a dime" and go public. What is holding these people back - that's what we all want to know. KON has already taken the kids out of people's lives, so that threat is gone. Unless these people know something we don't and know KON's scam will implode much sooner than we can imagine. This topic would make an incredibly interesting stand-alone entry for discussion. Mods - what do you think?

Anonymous said...

pullthegosselinplug said: I found a post on someone's site where Beth herself had actually posted in support of Kate, speaking of their friendship and Kate's positive qualities as a mother and person.
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There have been a number of positive posts about Kate posted by "Beth." This was not Beth, but someone using her name. The real Beth, a classy and dignified person, would never stoop to posting anything anywhere - good or bad. Just my opinion. I do wonder though if Beth is pursuing any type of legal action against KON with regard to the book. Did KON cheat her out of the $$ she has so rightfully coming to her as the author of the book? Just thinking...

pullthegosselinplug said...

The post I read sounded like it could have been Beth - it was very well-written and no one was slammed for thinking badly about Kate - but thanks for clearing it up. I also wonder how they will deal with the whole issue of the book and promoting it if there has been a split with Beth. Someone on here posted that the book is out - they saw it at a Christian bookstore and it is dedicated to "Jon and Grandma and Grandpa". (HUH??) Has anyone else seen it anywhere? That certainly slipped by without any pomp and circumstance!

Anonymous said...

I see the G's are going to be on Good Morning America this week. GMA's website has a form to submit questions for them - I'm sure they'll only answer the usual fluff questions and give the usual lies.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I know that I may be beating a dead horse here, but I really find it disgusting that grown adults would make you tube videos or my space fan pages of the Gosselin clan. As a parent I would be p*ssed if people were taking their time to put this stuff together. I know they are on TV but come on, making videos of other peoples kids is WEIRD!! Than to top it all off, these weirdos talk about which kid is their favorite. The Gosselin kids will never get to live a normal life.

I too agree.
Voyeuristic and strange. I will not watch a "made for youtube" production of those children. It's creepy and weird. I also hate to see those fansites from grown women who post pictures of the twins and the little kids all over them. I tell them it's nasty if I run across one. These are grown women for crying out loud. Lewd doesn't even discribe it.

Ilovemykids said...

Apparently the whole Gosselin "clan" will be GMA on Thursday, October 16th - I guess Mady and Cara are taken out of school again.

Anyway, here's a link to send some questions:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/story?id=6017075

ThreeFarmers said...

Anonymous 4:44 -- that's a good letter to People.

Anonymous said...

Did you see this yet?
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/story?id=6017075

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I really find it disgusting that grown adults would make you tube videos or my space fan pages of the Gosselin clan. As a parent I would be p*ssed if people were taking their time to put this stuff together. I know they are on TV but come on, making videos of other peoples kids is WEIRD!! Than to top it all off, these weirdos talk about which kid is their favorite. The Gosselin kids will never get to live a normal life.

I too agree.
Voyeuristic and strange. It's creepy and weird. These are grown women for crying out loud. Lewd doesn't even discribe it.


I agree it's creepy and weird. But what really sickens me is the thought of all the pedophiles out there getting their jollies from images of those kids. Nothing can convince me Jon and Kate are both too stupid and/or naive to know it, which makes it that much more repugnant that they sold out their kids' privacy for their own greedy agenda.

Anonymous said...

I notice there has been no mention of KON at the Southern Women's Show in Orlando this past Saturday. I guess no one went to see them!

Anonymous said...

I agree it's creepy and weird. But what really sickens me is the thought of all the pedophiles out there getting their jollies from images of those kids. Nothing can convince me Jon and Kate are both too stupid and/or naive to know it, which makes it that much more repugnant that they sold out their kids' privacy for their own greedy agenda.
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But they really DO care about the children's privacy & safety!! Remember, Kate put duct tape over the kids' names on their backpacks for the Utah trip ? (snark, snark)

Anonymous said...

Something just occurred to me about the preschool they are attending. First, it is so wasteful to drive two hours roundtrip for a 3 hour class. Sara Snow would be horribly horrified! But, does the person who drives them ho school stay in that vicinity for those 3 hours??? Otherwise, the wastefulness is out of control.

Ravello said...

I'm guessing the person driving the tups to preschool is Jon. He is probably doing a Happy dance away from Kate and stays near the school.
Personally, I would not drive kids that far to preschool. When my kids started, we evaluated programs within 5 miles of our home.
I believe the school the tups are attending is associated with their church, and must be FREE.

AmandaT said...

Anyone have questions for Jon, Kate, and the kids? I submitted mine, But doubt they will be asked. For the record, I kept it clean and respectful, as I want GMA to really reconsider their decision. Rudeness, they will only brush off.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/story?id=6017075

Anonymous said...

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/names/celebrity/jon-kate-plus-eight?src=edit&mag=ghk&chan=hp&link=jon-kate-plus-eight-HP

If you look on the last page at the bottome they talk about adopting. She says that they have looked in to it but they already have too many children.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I notice there has been no mention of KON at the Southern Women's Show in Orlando this past Saturday. I guess no one went to see them!


there are a couple of videos on you tube

Anonymous said...

http://web.archive.org/web/20051201033000/www.sixgosselins.com/Photos/cat1084792850

This page shows pictures of the babies with 2 older ladies and an older man... grandparents ??

Anonymous said...

After watching the Roloffs (thank god their back), the Gosselins and the Duggars I have realized what a greed machine the Gosselins are.

Does anybody know the purpose of parking the van sideways in the driveway? Was that some sort of privacy measure?

alana said...

I cancelled my subscription to GOOD HOUSEKEEPING magazine this morning. Yay!

I told them how disillusioned I was that their reporter didn't bother to research KON and that anyone who went along with J&K's LIE was participating in witholding Childhood from eight innocent children.

Furthermore, I believe that when a healthy and loving Childhood is totally absent, the result will be eight adults who are broken and unprepared for the real world. Having everything handed to them and done for them will guarantee a life of unhappy isolation and failure.

I also told Good Housekeeping that I would ensure all the businesses my family and friends patronize would be cancelling their subscriptions, too.
Every doctors' office, beauty salon, tire supply, accountant's et al reception area would no longer keep Good Housekeeping along side MARTHA and WOMAN'S DAY.

That is, unless a future issue can feature a sensitivly written expose' on the truth about that couple and how their television show came to an end!

I'm off to write PEOPLE and Good Morning America.

I know Nancy Grace is irritating, however, she carries a lot of clout and I think when she's finished with this Casey Anthony story she would help us.

Re: The YouTube video of Kate swinging her leg! I nearly fell off my chair laughing - if she'd swung any faster she would've gone into orbit - HA!

Ilovemykids said...

A small change of subject here. Did anyone watch the season premiere "Little People, Big World" last night? Matt's trip to Iraq was just an awesome story. NOW, there's a a family that gets it and realizes how blessed they are as a family and to live in this country. No sense of entitlement with this family. This is a family the Kate "sheeple" should be advocating, not the frauds that are the Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

This is for the 'insiders' who have gotten on various threads, mainly the school related ones, and insinuated they know how well the Gosselin children have adapted at school. I have seen comments in the past on how this person knows the kids did start school (this was before it was announced what the episodes would be), that they are well adjusted. And recently I saw where they did make friends and how we should not be suspicious because the twins do attend school. Please share any positive information you have about KON. Please let us know how we are wrong and that when the cameras aren't rolling they are actually good people and parents. If people like Pennmommy and Julie write about them, they give details and we can form an opinion good or bad. When insinuations are made but not followed up, how are they to be believed? Either you know Jon and Kate and feel positively toward them or you are, in fact, Jon or Kate reading and responding. Do tell what you know. I'm sure we are all eager to hear someone who knows and likes them finally defend them and tell us how wrong we are about them. Speak now or forever hold your peace. lol.

ThreeFarmers said...

This is a quote from Pamela Anderson about Katie "Jordan" Price the UK's version of, well, Pam Anderson.

"I have no idea how she became famous. She shows off her kids all the time in TV shows - that's beyond low. I’d never do that. Kids can’t make that decision at that age, can they?”

Hear that J&K? Even Pam Anderson is higher on the parental food chain than you are! Good for her.

Anonymous said...

Pamela Anderson is a better parent? The women who has been married for just months to two different men in the last four years? Pam exposes her kids to unhealthy personal relationships. So does their father. I wonder how Pam and Tommy are going to explain their sex tape that is if their kids don't already know.

Anonymous said...

I just re-watched the 4th of July in NC episode and it really broke my heart. Jon, Mady and Cara were really missing home, their family, friends and the tradition of the parade that they have been to every year of their lives, but Kate didn't seem to care less. Something tells me that 2007 was the last Wymissing parade they will ever be at.

Anonymous said...

I haven't read all the posts, so forgive me if this has already been discussed.

But does anybody watch
"Then Came 6" with the Harris sextuplets? I watched their show last night, and while I do NOT condone exploiting children's private lives, they were such a breath of fresh air compared to "that other family".

Chris and Diamond Harris do not yell at each other, hit each other, criticize or whine. They do what they have to do. They are straightforward with their kids and don't have to resort to hollering at them. They don't seem fake.

They showed the family going on vacation, and Diamond actually packed all of the meals for the trip. Proof this was not an all expense paid trip "that other family " gets.

They even had another large family over for a sleepover and genuinly had a good time. That other lady would have had a coronary.

While I am sickened all these families with multiples are resorting to pimping their kids for $$, there is something about this family that is just so darn likeable. They are real. There is no fakeness. I think they have the common sense to put the brakes on this if and when the criticism gets out of control, solely to protect their kids...unlike that other family.

Anonymous said...

I think in a way, shows like the Duggars and Little People are even more dangerous than Jon and Kate. Jon and Kate are un-likable people, and most of the time their kids are anything but sweet and cute. The people on those other shows are more likable, and even if they are not reaping material rewards like Jon and Kate, nonetheless they are also putting their minor childrens' lives on TV. Some of those children are older, but some are not. Unlike other reality shows that "star" adults, all these shows that feature minors should not be condoned even if we like the people.

Anonymous said...

TLC's website has a quiz, "how well do you know the sextuplets?" No mention of the twins. You can also build a puzzle with the kids as the picture. Um yeah thats what I want to do with my time. Poor kids.

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