A False Sense of Entitlement

As I was catching up on reading about the Gosselins last weekend, I noticed that many have replied to posts on various sites asking why some people are so bothered by Kate, Jon, or whoever on the show. I decided that it was time to clear my head and voice what makes me cringe, at the risk of being criticized for my opinion...you all are welcome at your leisure.

I guess what gets me the most is the blatant lack of appreciation, the false sense of entitlement, and the always getting and not ever doing. And you know what? I'm not sure who is to blame for that. I believe that this is nothing new for many, many people. As a society, people have grown to expect things rather than earning them.

I taught a college course last year at a state university. I found that many of my students believed they were entitled to a good grade despite the quality of work that was turned in. And when they were handed their earned grade, not the "entitled" grade, you know what would happen? The begging and pleading would start. And when I said "no", then mommy and daddy were on my phone expecting to help their sense of "entitled" offspring get the grade they wanted. I would simply say that they were no longer in high school and I was unable to discuss their 18+ year old adult's (not child's) grades with them...they LOVED that. But, for many, I hope it was a wake-up call that maybe, just maybe, some of the values they had programmed into their children were not necessarily for hard work. Now, was this the case with all my students? Absolutely not. But it was a trend for myself and many other teachers in the department.

The comments made on the weekly chosen forum that is Jon and Kate Plus 8 are eerily familiar to my students' comments from the past. It is as if J&K left post-adolescence without learning the lessons of independence, hard work, and earned achievement. Instead, they have found themselves dependent on volunteers, family which has since found the error of their ways, and finally a television network that formed a financially glorifying dual relationship. And I can't stand that Jon and Kate still cannot admit that they never have, or never will, be able to do this on their own. I'm not saying they should have to do it alone, but at least stop pretending that's what they're doing just so they don't have to tire themselves to, gasp, say thank you.

They cannot even do family outings alone, as there is either a hired "helper" or a production crew along for the ride. And yet, I take something back. They have said thank you...to the people that have paid them. To the people who have given them what they wanted. What about the people that fell short of their expectations...people like Jodi, Kate's family, or people that volunteered time and money to help a family in need? Nothing...not an ounce. Not even in their first TV special. They simply said that they were happy the volunteers were "gone". Gee, how "grateful".

Maybe it's a personal pet peeve of mine, but I cannot stand a false sense of entitlement. I'm actually contemplating doing my dissertation on the subject of "entitlement" in this sense and its relationship with educational motivation. Because if Jon and Kate were a part of the data for such research, I would imagine their correlation statistic would suggest entitlement up and motivation down.

Submitted by email from Heather

63 comments:

NotAPerfectMom said...

There are a lot of folks who get things without earning them.... Miley Cyrus comes to mind! Or women who go on makeover shows. How do we decide who deserves how much?

Addison said...

"And when they were handed their earned grade, not the "entitled" grade, you know what would happen? The begging and pleading would start. And when I said "no", then mommy and daddy were on my phone expecting to help their sense of "entitled" offspring get the grade they wanted."

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That happened in a college class? Ugh, that's pretty pathetic. I totally agree about the entitlement thing. It's one of the problems America and it is very annoying

Anonymous said...

Heather,

Your post was refreshing to read, and I could not agree more. Lack of self awareness, limited evidence of responsible decision making and a huge sense of entitlement (all times 2) combine to produce immature, spoiled adults. How could people have a positive opinion of these parents? I am clearly blind to their attributes.

Anonymous said...

Very well said! I agree with you. It kills me anytime they say they are happy the volunteers are gone, when I know how much time, effort, love, and sometimes money that the volunteers had put into this family. How unappreciative. They could at least had the courtesy to give some kind of thanks.

Anonymous said...

It all started with Kate showing us her "jowls of a dog" ( her belly ) and a nice lady offered her husbands services for a tummy tuck. We all got to see the real Kate when she tried to get the DR. to throw in a breast augmentation. He politely refused and suggested a new bra. But from that one act of kindness from a viewer, she found out just how simple it is to wish (or pray!) on air for something she'd like and then get what she asked for. Wharever Katie wants, Katie (seems to) get!

ThreeFarmers said...

While it's impossible to always know who deserves what, the situation with J&K goes beyond that for me. Despite what they have, they give a false impression that they do and pay for everything themselves. That is a slap in the face to both their fans and whoever actually did the giving and doing.

It isn't so much the getting that I find unnerving, it's the hiding, dare I say, lying, that is insufferable.

Anonymous said...

NotAPerfectMom said...
There are a lot of folks who get things without earning them.... Miley Cyrus comes to mind!


While grown ups may not appreciate Miley's artistic endevors, she is certainly working for what she is getting AND she is covered under child labor laws. The family lives off her father's earnings.

As for entitled kids. I've met some doozies and I work with under 12 year olds....

SoccerMomof3 said...

I have to agree with you about the sense of entitlement, not just by Jon and Kate but a lot of people. Even people on the web.

Good article.

Anonymous said...

I think there is nothing wrong with parents calling a teacher. People should know that college students may not be completely honest as to why they got such a low mark and the only way for a parent to know for sure is if the ask the teacher, which is especially important if they are paying for schooling. I think it is a teachers job to not only teach but be respectful to every one involved. Talking online about how lame or pathetic your students are (even if you dont mention their names) is NOT respectful!
Shame on you!

Anonymous said...

There's nothing wrong with the parents calling except the instructor/professor can't give out any information or shouldn't once the student turns 18 and legally becomes an adult. So it usually turns into harrassment of the professor.

Anonymous said...

That is what is wrong with America. Don't even get me started on welfare. Kate reminds me of one of those mothers that want to have more children to keep them on the system.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...I think there is nothing wrong with parents calling a teacher.

When your kid is over 18? Let me guess, you're one of those parents. Let me assure you that you're doing your child a disservice in the long-term. HR reps in Corporate America most definitely do not appreciate this type of hovering, overindulgent parental behavior.

Anonymous said...

My daughter, a professor, will be happy to explain that she cannot discuss anything about your adult offspring with you. :) She used to get several calls a week until she moved to teaching graduate level classes only. Now she only has to listen to the students whine.

Anonymous said...

Are you kiddidng me??? I work at a University and I cannot believe how often parents call about their whining kids! It's pathetic and I don't just mean the parents of Freshmen!! With regard to information given to them, there's a little something called FERPA laws that prevents the release of this information to students - it's called DATA PRIVACY!

Anonymous said...

The qualities you listed are the ones I dislike most in people. It really bugs me when people just expect to not have to do anything. Lots of parents screw up their jobs by not teaching their kids independence. Casey Anthony's parents come to mind. Who would allow this dishonest leech to continue to live with them? My neighbors also have all their grown kids living with them. They failed to do something right. KON live on their own, but when they say they do not depend on their parents, that is only half true. They still depend very much on others to take care of them. Only instead of their biological parents, it's their parent company who coddle them and allow bad behavior and even reward them for it. You see parents making excuses all the time for their grown kids and it's ridiculous.

puffnstuff said...

A student can execute a FERPA waiver that entitles the school to release information to his/her parents. During orientation day at my son's school, the Dean of Students carefully explained FERPA and stated that his conversation with his own child went like this: "as long as I am paying for your education, it would be a really good idea for you to sign this form". I think this is good idea - NOT for the purpose of allowing a parent to try to cajole the professor/lecturer into a grade, etc., but rather just so the parent can know: is my child attending class and doing the required work? Anything beyond that is really up to my son to work out.

Anonymous said...

For me the false sense of entitlement is perhaps annoying, but my true issue with the Gosselins in their unwillingness to shield their children from the camera. They exhibit quite the opposite behavior to the point of exploiting their childhood. Who else in the history of modern day media has allowed the filming of their childrens lives to the same extent as the Gosselins? I know there are young actors, but this is a very different situation. The young actors can go home after a day of work, to the safety of their nest at home. The Gosselins go home and wonder when the next camera will appear to film them. This no doubt has the potential to distort a developing mind. The true psychological impact of growing up on a film set, and public scrutiny they will always live with will only be known once the Gosselins are grown. This is in a way a strange and I believe unethical experiment for which I hope the end result is not some very sad and confused adults.

Anonymous said...

You have hit the nail directly on the head! Well put. This explains why Jon and Kate Gosselin have such a huge following. Most of their sheeple see no fault with what J&K are doing. The sheeple like to worship this false god, of sorts. All the while, the children are treated as the sacrificial lambs from which J&K gain their glory. It is just so wrong. I also feel so bad for Mady. She is being made out as a type of villian. On Regis and Kelly's Show-I did not see her intentionally hit Alexis with the blow up crayon. It was truly an accident. Yet all the sheeple gasped "Awwwww!!!" Very disturbing. She is just a kid people! Please, enough already..I just hope that somebody can get through to the right people to shut this insanity down once and for all. Give these children some privacy to live their lives. It is very sickening.

Anonymous said...

I work at a University and I cannot believe how often parents call about their whining kids! It's pathetic and I don't just mean the parents of Freshmen!!

I can attest to that one for sure. I worked for the admissions office of my college for 2 years before I graduated. There were parents that were horrible. Regardless of who is paying the tuition, if your child isn't mature enough to not lie to you about their classes or grades, maybe they aren't ready for college. Parents calling deans, calling because their lazy kid didn't get up early enough to enroll in the class they needed, or wanting to know how to get their kid to be allowed to take a final early so the family could leave for their winter vacation, how do those kids turn out? Oh, I know. They turn out to be Jon and Kate!

Anonymous said...

I totally get what you are saying and agree. My parents gave me everything then one day decided to call it quits with divorce then tore my life out from under me as I knew it, because they didn't want to be the responsible one to pay such and such a bill that came up for my extra curricular activities. I was 12 when they did this, so I had the chance to change myself into something better, but being given everything, I never took responsibility for "following thru" with things, meaning I never finish hardly anything I set out to do. For that reason, if my children want to do something, I make them finish. This doesn't quite have to do with what you said, but in a way it does. I taught my chidren not to want so that if their life doesn't go the way I've hoped, they won't need me to coddle them (which I would anyway bc I love them) This has made them become strong individuals who are well on their way to becoming what they want to be in life, and only because I changed that about myself, and did things different. I would NEVER call and ask for my childs grade to be changed. There's no excuse for that except the fact that the child didn't do his or her work as expected to. Kate is teaching those kids to be handed everything and God help her when she can't give them anymore...

Anonymous said...

"All the while, the children are treated as the sacrificial lambs from which J&K gain their glory. It is just so wrong."

Exactly. I guess Jon and Kate are more concerned with making money then protecting the emotional well being of their children. The horrible things written about them will be there for the Gosselin children to puruse on the internet one day. Unless the Gosselins shut down their publicity machine now their children will also live with the fact their parents did not try to protect them from it. I don't know why Jon and Kate don't see they are the cause. Instead they want to blame the bloggers. Note to Jon and Kate: You can't control the opinions of the millions of potential viewers out there, you can only control the level of privacy your children live with.

kalilahs@gmail.com said...

I completely agree, Heather! It blows my mind that some parents act like that. I'm currently a graduate student so I've had my fair share of college, and if my parents had EVER contacted one of my professors, I would have died of embarrassment. That is not how college works, we are all adults and as college students, school is our career for the moment.

Of course, that doesn't stop some parents. My dad gets calls from parents of his younger EMPLOYEES (he is an engineer). These are people that graduated from college and GOTTEN A JOB. He thinks it is absolutely absurd and it annoys him to no end.

Oh and that sounds like a great idea for a dissertation!

Cheshire Girl said...

Heather -

I agree with your J&K comments. I made a similar statement on another board and got flamed by their supporters.

Every time Kate talks about how much she hates her camera (are you listening SONY?, NIKON? ) or how she wishes she could go to the spa every day (Did you hear that Hotel Hershey?)or become a restaurant reviewer (woo hoo...getting paid to eat food in restaurants and give my oh so important opinion!)
I just cringe.

Her actions are as transparent as saran wrap. (Product placement is so important..lol..)

Anonymous said...

Great post!

As anon. 10:20 said, false sense of entitlement is what separates us from the sheeple. They worship Kon because they see nothing wrong with forcing 8 children to grow up on a TV set, for big bucks they would do it in a heartbeat too.

That is the problem with this country and a large part of why we are in a financial crisis. Too many people felt entitled to live in a 300k home when they could only afford a 150k one. Shame on these shady lenders who gave them the 'creative' financing to buy them. We will all pay the price for years to come.

Entitlement is the supposed reason why Kate fell out with her parents. When Kate began rejecting used donations and insisted the tups (new) cribs match, her father was very embarassed and told her about it. People who feel entitled don't see anything wrong with what they're doing and don't take kindly to being told about it. I am dealing with this in my own family. When my SIL was expecting her 2nd child (same sex as the first) she registered for all new everything and threw herself a baby shower. She didn't think it was right for the 2nd baby to always get used equipment and hand-me downs. Just imagine how that went over with the older members of our family :) No one has a problem with her wanting new stuff, we have a real problem with her wanting us to foot the bill.
She is now (whoops) expecting a 3rd. Same sex as the other two. Planning her own shower. Registered in 2 stores for all new everything.

Heather, when you finish your dissertation on entitlement, please post it here so we can better understand what makes these people the way they are!

Anonymous said...

Jon's and Kate's senses of self-entitlement are very different. Jon was the son (in fact, isn't he an only child?) of a doctor, and there was a divorce. From comments he made about places he went and did in his youth, he got everything he wanted without having to work for it. He would've had his college paid for, if he'd chosen to go. Jon chooses to be taken care of, chose to marry mommy-wife and chooses to be emasculated in front of millions of strangers multiple times a week. All for not having to compete in the world with other adults. Jon's sense of self-entitlement was cultivated throughout his life, he probably doesn't even recognize it as such.

Kate is quite different. She comes from modest beginnings. No doubt she spent her childhood and adolescence feeling jealous of everyone around her who had what she didn't, and no doubt in her bible-thumping household, she was made to feel guilty for expressing those feelings. So eventually she kept them inside, burning and festering. From a few things said, evidently Kate had a wild period once she came of age. Typical for someone from a repressive upbringing. When the opportunity presented itself for her to profit from having happened to give birth to sextuplets on top of twins, she grabbed the brass ring, and will never let go on her own. Kate's sense of self-entitlement is the product of years of bitterness and longing.

They're quite a pair.

Anonymous said...

Whenever I think of self-entitled people, I can't help thinking about my crap-tacular ex-boyfriend, who was/is probably one of the most entitled people I know. His parents paid for him to go to college, but instead of actually doing any work, he would just sit in his room and play Kingdom Hearts or watch Smallville all day (he was a major loner - even though I tried to get him to hang out with my friends) and he still expected to get good grades and always acted like he was better than everyone else. Once he even had the nerve to tell me that he "always tries his best." Anyway, he failed his classes and had to take all of them over again - and his parents are still paying for him to go to school. He is almost 26 years old.

Anyway, sooo glad I dumped him.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

I believe Jon has at least one other brother and may have two. Yes, he was the son of a dentist and seemed to have a great childhood from what he has told us in various segments. They went a lot of places and had fun.

Kate on the other hand was a daughter of a pastor and most families of pastors lead a very conservative lifestyle. She has three or four other siblings so I am sure money was tight. The OP was right in saying she was probably green with envy at what and where other people had or went.

Like other people have stated I won't be surprised if she does get the opportunity to adopt. Kate does seem to get whatever she desires or wants.

Anonymous said...

i am wondering when they show kate asking the plastic surgeon that did her tummy tuck for a boob job also? ive seen the episode and havent seen her ask. but ive read it on here a few times that she had. how do you know this it true and where did you learn of it? just curious...

Anonymous said...

Apparently some schools do not use/allow/publicize the FERPA waiver. My deal with my kids because for one of them the school specifically said they released NO info to parents, was before I write any checks for the next semester I will be presented with the full grades from last semester.

Anonymous said...

i am wondering when they show kate asking the plastic surgeon that did her tummy tuck for a boob job also? ive seen the episode and havent seen her ask. but ive read it on here a few times that she had. how do you know this it true and where did you learn of it? just curious...
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I saw the episode and I saw the scene where Kate asks but does not get (GASP!!!). The surgeon was nothing but professional, but IIRC, there was some irritation in his voice when he told Kate all she needed was a good bra (I'm sure he was annoyed that she was trying to get more free surgery).

Unfortunately, it seems that some of the older episodes are being edited after reading the many disapproving comments online. Although, they have recently re-aired Joelgate, Gumgate and Disneygate, which are forever etched into the KON Hall of Shame.

ThreeFarmers said...

We hear Kate ask about breast augmentation on the show. The doc tells her to buy a better bra.

Anonymous said...

Well written; what I have been thinking..but could never articulate as well.
This sense of entitlement and the lying...2 more reasons why I know longer watch the show. The main reason being the exploitation of the children.
I know not everyone here likes Little People Big World..but that whole family WORKS hard on their farm and owns businesses despite physical disabilities..And seem way happier, more normal and more loving than the Gosselin family ever could. I think those children are learning that things aren't just handed to them; and how to give back. I'm looking forward to the show tomorrow..

sara said...

Anon 10:37 Parents calling deans, calling because their lazy kid didn't get up early enough to enroll in the class they needed, or wanting to know how to get their kid to be allowed to take a final early so the family could leave for their winter vacation, how do those kids turn out? Oh, I know. They turn out to be Jon and Kate!


LOL!!! I am a high school teacher and can certainly attest to helicopter parents. And yes, I recognize that part of my job IS communicating with parents. At the college level though, the parents are doing their child a huge disservice. Children need to learn to be responsible for their work in order to be productive members of society. Parents who constantly hover and don't cut the cord never allow their children to make mistakes so they can then learn from them.

With regards to Jon and Kate, my problem lies with the fact that they are not teaching their children about working hard and taking pride in it. They are there with their arms open waiting for gifts that they've "earned". IMHO they are not setting a good example for their kids.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone watch Then Came Six this week? They were teaching their children responsibility. The kids were shown how to do chores and the parents said they reinforced doing the chores for weeks and they gave the kids an allowance for doing the chores. When they were handing out the money they talked about what each child had done to earn their allowance. Diamond said five isn't too young to start preparing them for responsibility and work.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this post! This happens in my college classroom all the time and I also think of J&K when this happens. Ugh.

lifeoriley said...

I agree about the false sense of entitlement and J&K. Aside from them exploiting their kids, IMO, their attitude is another reason why I don't see J&K as parental role models. From reading the local papers at the time the tups were born, it seems that they expected help from the start--from the commonwealth of PA, from their church, or from corporate sponsors, in addition to the help they got from family, friends, and various volunteers. By some reports, Jon's father, a dentist, was helping them out financially. Kates mother and father watched the twins when Kate was on bedrest before the tups birth and afterwards, as well. We have seen that Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin helped in more than one episode of the show. Yet all J&K seem to want is more. More stuff. More (paid) help. It's never enough. They should be extremely thankful and grateful for the help they have already received, yet they (at least on camera) act as if it is their due.

SmartyQ said...

IIRC, Jon's parents separated when he was relatively young. This is supposition, but I think Jon's father threw money at him and probably recognized Jon was unmotivated and spoiled. Out of guilt? Because he tired of Jon's whining? (Jon is a major whiner.)

'Tis a curious relationship—Jon and his father. Jon seems to idolize his father but apparently didn't care enough about how his father viewed him not to go a'begging repeatedly. Jon wrote a tribute to his father on the old Kon website and, in practically the next sentence, whines for more donations.

IIRC anent Katie Irene's tummy tuck, she didn't ask for a breast augmentation but rather for 'pull-up.' I'm sure that, after eight children, they were a'hanging.

I have always believed that the only reason Katie Irene bared her tummy was to get a free tummy tuck. Until recently I didn't have a problem with it, but now I wonder how many of Jon's comments (eg, droopy dog jowls) were simply to assure someone can through for them. Everything is so staged that it's hard to know.

Anonymous said...

When I think of J&K's ungrateful attitude, two events come to mind the Crayola Crayon Factory and Thomas at Strasburg R.R.

Kate had a complete meltdown at the Crayola Crayon Factory. She yelled at her husband, refused to help one of her daughters start a project, and made the day a fiasco for the whole family. Clearly all of their tickets and lunch were paid for by Crayola. Since Kate had free tickets to the factory, she did not care about how the day turned out--it was a freebie, why show any gratitude. I would say that a normal mom from a normal family, would let her OCD tendencies have the day off so that her children could enjoy the day. If nothing else Kate could have shown gratitude for the free tickets.

At Thomas the Tank Engine, Jon & Kate were rude about the historian's presentation to the family on one of the trains. They laughed at the guide and questioned why he told them "facts." In the next breath both talk about only wanting to learn facts on their trips...a contradiction to her earlier statement.

Anonymous said...

I teach at a college and I have two kids enrolled in college. I see it from both sides, ha, ha. Still, I like the students and understand their parents' concerns.

Jon and Kate are another story. I can't tolerate them. I truly think there's something emotionally wrong with Kate. She can't get enough: enough money, enough stuff, enough praise, enough pity. enough attention. The well is always dry. This goes ways beyond youthful feelings of entitlement. Kate is a woman who appears to have cast out every significant adult in her children's lives, other than her enabler husband. People can't fulfill her unrealistic expectations. Nothing can fill the emptiness in her soul. Will she turn on her children one day when they try to claim their independence? You can bet on it. Yet, the dysfunctional Jon and Kate find fame and fortune on the small screen. That is the great irony of our media culture.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody think that they might be moving because they have run out of freebies and places to go? North Carolina is not the only place to buy a mansion ( I wonder if Kon knows that! ).

Anonymous said...

A previous post said they came across J & K (and Beth's) book at a christian book store. They said the book was dedicated to Jon and grandma and grandpa. As ambiguous as the words 'grandma and grandpa' are, I understand why there would be reason to dedicate to these individuals. However, considering Jon is a named a co-author of the book, why would he dedicate the book to himself? IMO, the original intention of the book was to be a book written in the words of Kate in a combined effort with Beth, thus the dedication to Jon. I suspect however, that the dedication to the ambiguous 'grandpa and grandma' was added only after Jon's name was stratigically included in the credits as co author of the book. I find it odd that Jon, as co author of the book, would in turn dedicate it to himself. J & K are constantly giving lip service to 'being blessed' but at appropriate opportunity fail to give proper dedication to their 'provider'.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and let's not forget that J&K are cementing the groundwork for the next generation of Entitled Gosselins. There's not a kid in the bunch who won't think it's a slap in the face when they are required to as adults: buy their own clothes, pay for their own vacations, finance their own homes, cook their own food, go to eating establishments and amusement venues WHEN THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THERE (the general public -ewwww), and on, and on, and on.

Such noble values J&K are instilling in their offspring!

Anonymous said...

On 60 minutes, there was a segment on young adults with entitlement issues. There was a person who wrote a book on the subject (I don't remember the name) but basically the problem started because of helicopter parents. The author said that young adults have had childhoods where everyone wins a medals. Parents don't want their kids to lose anything and feel bad. Everyone makes the team regardless of the effort or skill. Another problem is d-list celebrities like Paris Hilton and MTV Real World Roomies who basically become famous by doing nothing. Kids think that you don't have to work hard for anything.

sabrinasmom said...

Entitlement is the supposed reason why Kate fell out with her parents. When Kate began rejecting used donations and insisted the tups (new) cribs match, her father was very embarassed and told her about it.

I believe this story - but has it been "confirmed" anywhere?

Anonymous said...

Yes, I would agree that Kon have a false sense of entitlement.

If both of your parents stay at home, there is hired help, you go on numerous paid vacations, and new clothes are given to you freely, how can you appreciate the value of hard work? These children are being set up for failure. If all family relationships have been terminated, how will you have family values? You won't.

I believe struggling and teaching your children valuable lessons is much more important than exploiting for the purpose of entitlement.

pullthegosselinplug said...

Sabrinasmom -
I read the story of the falling out over the donations of used clothing and non-matching cribs and other items from Kate's dad's church (and Jon and Kate's church at the time) on Wiki-Answers - I just looked there but it is no longer there. There are some interesting things there if anyone wants to take a look.
Also, Wikipedia has now removed the "Controversy" section on the Gosselins. There is alot of other good reading material there as well.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate the hard work that my hired help does! And Im sure Kate appreciates the time she can spend doing other things while her hired help does the work!

sabrinasmom said...

I read the story of the falling out over the donations of used clothing and non-matching cribs and other items from Kate's dad's church (and Jon and Kate's church at the time) on Wiki-Answers - I just looked there but it is no longer there. There are some interesting things there if anyone wants to take a look.
Also, Wikipedia has now removed the "Controversy" section on the Gosselins. There is alot of other good reading material there as well.


Pull - thank you. Like I said, I believe it, but some people claim that "we" are perpetuating Hitler's big lie. If we tell a story long enough, we believe it to be true. I could say the same for Jon and Kate's claims - No College funds, etc.

Jen said...

I aredd about the entitlement thing.."we had 6 babies so we are ENTITLED to a free nurse, a bevy if hand-picked helpers, free brand name clothes, a bigger house, a bigger, newer vehicle, teatment like royalty....the list goes on. Those kids are really going to have a wake up call when thy leave the jail call, oops I mean nest, and realize that the world isn't handed to them on a platter and that there are price tags attached.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with this post. And it sickens me that they tell the kids it's their "family Job" so when they grow up and have to provide for their own families, they are in for a SERIOUS reality check. They will wonder why they can't take their kids to fancy Disney Resorts, Ski trips, matching Gymboree, etc.

Mrs. P said...

you took the words OUT OF MY MOUTH!!!!! I COMPLETELY agree. I have 5 children, 3 of them are triplets. Would I like help? Yep. Do I think I deserve it just because 3 babies exited my uterus at the same time....NO.

My hubby and I worked hard to pay for college, our cars, our home....we have never taken a handout from anyone. I firmly believe that we are BETTER people because of it. We learned how to work hard, and how to get things because of what we have done to EARN it, not because we have the feeling that we DESERVE it.

Jon and Kate have never worked hard for anything. They had family members that bailed them out when Jon went aimlessly from job to job, and look where it got them. They have 8 kids (because Kate could not WAIT to see if fertility drugs were necessary! I am mildly infertile, and the way that her treatment was handled is ALL kinds of unethical and wrong)because she felt entitled to used fertility drugs because conception may be HARD.

Jon and Kate need schooled in real life. Where people dont get fertility drugs, money, houses, clothes, endorsements, TV Shows, and the like. Life is HARD. That does not mean it gives you a free pass at child neglect.

Anonymous said...

I was reading a recent New York Times article about the Extreme Home Makeover program. For the price of one of those super-fancy homes they build, they could construct about 24 more modest homes for a program like Habit for Humanity.

But hey, building 24 modest homes wouldn't rate a TV show, would it?

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of folks who get things without earning them.... Miley Cyrus comes to mind!
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If the Gosselin kids are working just by going about their day-to-day lives while a camera tags along, Miley Cyrus is working ten times harder than they are.

She has to memorize lines for her show, film her show with dozens of takes for each scene, learn new songs, record new songs (once again with the dozens of takes), learn choreography for her new songs, go to wardrobe fittings, go to interviews, go to photoshoots... and this all with paparazzi following her every move.

Does she deserve all the attention? I don't know... probably no more so than any other other celebrity who must do all the same things. But if Cara, Mady, Collin, Joel, Aaden, Leah, Alexis, and Hannah are working, it's fair to say that Miley Cyrus is working her butt off.

vipersue said...

Excellent post. Jon and Kate are 2 of the most entitled people I have ever seen. I was watching a rerun of the going to Oprah show where Kate said she thought Oprah would enjoy spending a day at their house with them. The idea that Oprah would want to spend a day with them just amazed me. Kate just thinks she is the most interesting and facinating person alive!

chiasmus said...

Over the weekend I watched an episode of True Life on MTV. They showed several young people who were single parents trying to make it on their own. I was incredbly moved by a yound man who is only 25 years old and is raising six children while working and studying for his master's degree in engineering to make a better for his family.

This young man was married to a woman who had one child previous to their marriage. Subsequently, they had a set of triplets and a set of twins...all of the children are under the age of six! His wife left (couldn't handle it and just went away.) So this young man is not only raising two sets of multiples, he has a singleton who is not his own that he is raising....AND he is a single parent. The show did show footage of his mother helping him.

He was so accepting of the situation, even though it is very difficult for him to find a date, or even just go out for fun. He never complained, and is just trying to make the situation for he and his children the best he can make it.

There was NO sense of the entitlement we see from Kon. What a contrast!

Anonymous said...

Excellent post. Jon and Kate are 2 of the most entitled people I have ever seen. I was watching a rerun of the going to Oprah show where Kate said she thought Oprah would enjoy spending a day at their house with them. The idea that Oprah would want to spend a day with them just amazed me. Kate just thinks she is the most interesting and facinating person alive!

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The Oprah show just re-aired a few days ago. I watched it for a few minutes in the beginning. One thing I noticed :

when KON were on the couch, they were saying that they were so excited to see Oprah because she "has done great things for so many people/ been generous with so many people" (sorry, can't remember the exact wording). It was very apparent that the only reason they were excited to see Oprah is because they thought she was going to lavish them with free gifts ( from what I saw of the show, they got nothing material, but who knows).

Very telling.

Anonymous said...

chiasmus said...
Over the weekend I watched an episode of True Life on MTV. They showed several young people who were single parents trying to make it on their own. I was incredbly moved by a yound man who is only 25 years old and is raising six children while working and studying for his master's degree in engineering to make a better for his family

I too, watched this episode of True Life on MTV. For those that say it is nearly impossible for J & K to raise their family without a reality tv and all the freebies and donations that come with, should watch this episode! Not only is this man raising his many children as a single parent, he is doing so WITHOUT exploiting his children or his situation as a means of financial support! He managed to find a way to care for his children, pursue a career, and maintain a sense of dignity and integrity for himself and his family. The episode did not feature lavish resort vacations, numerous amusement park trips, participating in vanity procedures, free brand name clothing and toys for the children. However, it was obvious that there was an abundance of love shown by the father and support on behalf of the family. This hard working dedicated single father even found time in his day to tuck his children in at night and read them a bed time story. No false sense of entitlement, no desire to pursue fame and fortune, no justifying and making excuses. Just a single dad doing what he has to do in the best interest of his children not at the expense OF his children!

Anonymous said...

Make sure you watch Little People Big World and see how grateful he is. Wow!!! I am so impressed with this family. I don't care what they get. I love how he is facing this danger with disabilities to help other children with dwarfism. It apparently is quite dangerous. J&K could use a little bit of that kind of compassion and so could I.

Anonymous said...

http://johnchadhall.blogspot.com/2008/06/matt-roloff-star-of-tlc-show-little.html
Here's the link to look at for the Rolloffs. No sense of entitlement here.

Anonymous said...

Just heard. Quote by Kate Gosselin

"Our kids have a great life and WE have a great life because of them"

I don't think she meant it the way it came out, but have you ever heard of a "Freudian slip".

Anonymous said...

Not only is this man raising his many children as a single parent, he is doing so WITHOUT exploiting his children or his situation as a means of financial support!
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Isn't the whole point of him appearing on that T.V. show to get a small amount of money out of it? And isn't the whole reason his story is compelling enough to be on T.V. because of his kids?

Isn't this a mild form of exploitation, if Jon and Kate is a major one?

Anonymous said...

Its a big turnoff when you see Jon and Kate grabbing any freebie they can get. These two arent even NICE to people and just feel like everyone should do for them. Why? I sure dont know why.. They are the epitome of entitlement.

LOVE the Roloff family. They are real, and give back. The season opener had me in tears. I dont begrudge anything the roloffs get, because they are not sending out vibes that they are entitled and are gracious to people.
Makes all the difference in the world!

Anonymous said...

I was reading a recent New York Times article about the Extreme Home Makeover program. For the price of one of those super-fancy homes they build, they could construct about 24 more modest homes for a program like Habit for Humanity.

But hey, building 24 modest homes wouldn't rate a TV show, would it?"

I have always felt this way about that show and hate it. I think it also breeds a sense of entitlement. Having a hard situation does not entitle one to a free mansion. I have never understood why they could not fix up their previously bad homes into something modest like most live in. Why a mansion? I have heard they are having to tone it down this season due to poor people being given these free homes and not being able to afford the upkeep. The bill must be outrageous. Some of them act like they are very grateful, but many, especially the kids, seem like it's just something they deserved. I think we can all come up with something in our lives that is a difficult obstacle, deserving of freebies. Others have too much pride for that. Why people enjoy seeing a family get something most people would have to work years for..and very had at that; and get it for free, is beyond me. To me, it is as bad as seeing the Gosselins and their hands constantly out for freebies. Because you know these families sent in their sob story tapes crying and asking for new homes. It's distasteful to me.