Being Grateful

I wish she would just take a moment and look around.... I will try not to repeat what has been said a million times on here, but I feel the need after watching this show for the last 4 seasons, to get something off my back and off my mind.


I really wish that Kate Gosselin would take a moment to breathe, look around, and appreciate the little world she has created for herself. Yes, she has mentioned in brief little moments her thanks for this or that. But I don't think that she is really truly taking the time to realize how great she has it. As much as this woman disturbs the crap out of me, I honestly don't think that her intentions in the beginning were to live off the exploitation of her family or to throw the world's biggest pity party for having so many children.


However, I do think that, slowly, over time, everything just simply went to her head. Just like some people are pre-programmed all along to become drug addicts, and are just waiting for that first hit to send them off into the land of addiction. Some people, like Kate, are just pre-programmed to let themselves become completely engulfed in a life of fame, and cannot stop themselves from wanting more and more once they have gotten a taste of the good life. We see this all the time in celebrities. Once they see what their fame can give them, they expect nothing less. They now see themselves as above everyone else and literally believe that they DESERVE all the things given to them.


We clearly see that in Kate. We witness it all the time... how deserving she thinks she is. I honestly think she has become addicted to getting things handed to her, whether it be from do gooders with a big heart, or corporations who see the benifit of seeing the Gosselin kids using/playing with their products on a popular TV show.


Kate is now living like a kid in a candy store. She sees something she wants, or a trip she wants to take, and BAM... she knows exactly how to get it for free now. It's become very simple to her and I think the idea of all of this one day coming to an end is frightening. And that is why she cannot bring herself to end this show, no matter what kind of problems it may be causing for her children. Just like a junkie will put drugs before their kids, Kate is putting her hunger for more and more material things in front of her children's happiness.


And for two parents who do not work and who have accumulated all this wealth from the show, you'd think that they would be doing a lot more good for others. Maybe just pay it forward to families in the same situation as theirs. I mean we all know that she isn't the only woman in the world with a lot of kids, or with several sets of multiples, and it saddens me to see that she is the only one who gets such major benifits because of it. I think it would be awesome to see her help out those other families by either giving them some of her freebies or by giving those parents one of their free vacations.


I am a parent of one child, and my husband and I have struggled for a very very long time and never seem to be getting any further. I won't go into detail of our situation cause I don't want to sound like I'm feeling sorry for myself. But the people around me and in my life have helped us out as best as they can (whether it be by helping us buy groceries once in a while, or giving my child hand me down clothes). It's not free vacations and it's not clothes from Gymboree, but am I ever thankful for every single bit of it. And, to tell you the truth, I could not even begin to live with myself if I didn't try to pay it forward in some way. If I can volunteer at a shelter's kitchen, donate what I can to charity, or watch someone's kid so their parents can look for a job, then Kate and Jon Gosselin can do SOMETHING too to give back for all they have recieved. And I really hope that one day they see that they don't need so much useless material things in order to be happy, and that Kate doesn't have to put on this show of perfect, spotless, high fashion wearing children in order to prove something to the world. No mother is perfect, and recognizing your faults as a mother is what helps you grow to be a better one.


Kate and Jon, please just look at the world we are living in and the people around you. It's not so easy for everyone, and the day you accept that you and your family can be happy just loving each other, being silly together, and just being yourselves will be the day you find true happiness.


Written by Sasha

88 comments:

Anonymous said...

You have captured the truth!

ThankYou said...

I love that the show Little People, Big World sent Matt to Iraq to see if he could help some little people there. His family can and is making a difference.
I would like to see Kate Gosselin do something that touches other peoples lives. Actually reach out and help others.
All the wealth and perks won't mean anything when the Gosselin family find themselves alone in their mansion on a hill.
Part of the joy of having is sharing with others, especially extended family.

momof5 said...

I guess I have learned there are some people in the world who live as though it is truly 'all about them'. They are incapable or perhaps just unwilling to see beyond themselves. Kate is one of those people. She is unfortunately not only able to live in this manner-she has people surrounding her who encourage her to be this way. For now she has anything/everything she could want (that money can buy)-but someday the realization might actually creep in that the most important things in life cannot be bought, nor can we go back and reclaim the opportunities lost for things such as family (Aunt Jodi, grandparents, etc.). We also cannot return to our children's childhoods or change things we did for the sake of money or things we deemed more important at the time.

Kinzer5 said...

I have to say that my view of this family is now tainted and when I watch the show it just isn't the same anymore.
Before I even stumbled upon these blogs my husband and I had noticed that the show was changing in a direction that wasn't very positive and we were commenting to each other that it seemed like every episode was an advertisement for something or another and were apalled at how much free stuff they were getting.
To be honest with you, the children that I feel affected by all of Jon and Kates decisions are Cara and Mady. The tups seem fine bc this is all they have known but to me the twins are suffering. I as they get older that they do not grow up disliking their little siblings bc of all the attention (and many other things)they received do to this show.
Oddly enough, I will probably keep watching bc I am very curious how this will all turn out.

Anonymous said...

I don't usually like the commentaries but I really liked this one. I agree with your assessment of Kate and the feeling that she's not so much a bad person as a WEAK person who succummed to an addiction - IMO for getting things easy AND for attention. I think part of the reason Kate is not fully grateful (though I believe that she is some) is because in reality, she and Jon have NEVER had to struggle to feed and clothe all 8 kids. They struggled with the twins but not with the tups. What worries me is that the fall will be tragic. Jon just doesn't strike me as particularly strong either. Kate's addiction has led her to dismiss all her family and friends and when the crew finally packs up, they will honestly be alone with the burden. I am going to quote someone who said this in an argument with me: the child who needs the most love is the one who deserves it the least. Pray for Kate. Her hard times haven't yet begun but they will be huge.

Anonymous said...

Kate won't even pay it forward with her own friends or family. I still can not fathom her telling Aunt Jodie and Beth that no one is going to make money off our kids and writing them off after all the two of them have done for the Gosselins!

mkb77 said...

When I first became a mom, I was overwhelmed and I had "only" one to care for at the time. When my second one arrived a few years later, I thought to myself, "this is it. Me, two babies and my husband off to work. I am responsible for all of their needs today." And it was daunting.

Fast forward many years. It has taken me a long time to see the trees for the forest (or is it the forest for the trees?). My oldest is now married, my baby is a freshman in college and how I wish we could have a do-over and go back and relive all of those wonderful times.

Perhaps with 8 children,Kate and Jon are too wrapped up in meeting their daily needs to see that this is the time that they should cherish. Does it make them bad people? No, it makes them parents.

Also, who knows for sure that these people don't give back? You are basing your opinions on one or two hour episodes that you see each week. Not everyone finds it necessary to broadcast to the world that they are paying it forward.

Anonymous said...

You are so right, if Kate and Jon were shown donating or giving back for real not just for damage control it would be SOOOO much better. They did hold a garage sale but come on they sold items they were given for FREE! Jon and Kate have alot of money because of the show and they could donate for sure.

Anonymous said...

But you have no idea what Jon and Kate are really doing behind the scenes.

And you also don't know what is going through their heads.

Bloggers need perspective now more than ever.

Sue said...

There are people in this world who are givers and some who are takers. Even in a marriage or committed relationship there are times when one is giving more and one taking more. The success of it all relies on striking the balance. Jon and Kate appear to both be takers not givers. Even within their own relationship there is no balance. It's Jon-the-giver and Kate-the-taker. Together they sit back and take. Giving is a "rare treat" for them. And yet, Kate feels so exhausted from all the taking. Imagine how energized she would be from giving! I worry about what they are teaching their children. They are never too young to learn to pay it forward.

Anonymous said...

From what I hear (as I refuse to buy it), Kate says "thank you" many times in her book. Well, to be technical, *Beth* and/or the ghost-writer says "thank you."
All of these volunteers ---who, according to Kate, talked about unimportant drivel and wandered about her house not caring about her one bit ---- waiting for you thanks? The church-goers who paid their utility bills? The strangers who gave love offerings? Well, now you can have a "thank you, I appreciate you" from Kate! $11.99, please.

Anonymous said...

This is sadly true. In fact, at their yard sale two years ago when they were selling the babies' cribs and other things, they had car seats selling for $35 each! Why not donate these and other items, or pay it forward as you said? Greed.

pinklady said...

Sasha...I think you may have captured the true essence of why this site exists and what lives in the minds and hearts of so many of us that started out loving the G's and now find themselves appalled by them. It all comes down to gratitude (or a lack thereof), simple as that.

Kate seems to think that she is the only mother alive to have given birth to sextuplets. Why can't she reach out to others and offer assistance, even if it isn't necessarily with money?

If the JK8's possessed true gratitude for their bountiful blessings, we would be watching a very different show right now. Nice post.

Ilovemykids said...

Perhaps with 8 children,Kate and Jon are too wrapped up in meeting their daily needs to see that this is the time that they should cherish. Does it make them bad people? No, it makes them parents.

Jon and Kate are wrapped up in their own daily needs - not their children's daily needs.

HW said...

Anonymous (10:27 AM)

True - we don't know what Jon and Kate are doing behind the scenes; however, we do know that they haven't taught their children to say "thank you" or we'd be hearing it quite a bit on their show because they receive so much. "Thank You" should be one of the first phrases a child learns and it says a lot that these children have not been taught gratitude.

On the show, Kate is very ungracious in the way she receives things - the puppet lady wasn't funny enough at the photo shoot, the twins birthday shirts sent by a viewer "Were long sleeves even though it's hot out and they won't fit them next fall...", they only received two remote control cars. She can't seem to except anything without sniping at why it's not quite right.

I truly think if Jon and Kate were giving back they would certainly make sure the viewing audience saw it.

Anonymous said...

But you have no idea what Jon and Kate are really doing behind the scenes.

And you also don't know what is going through their heads.

Bloggers need perspective now more than ever.
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I agree. I understand that because we are advocating for the children we need to discuss sometimes what goes on with the parents. The thing is-what do these topics we have been discussing lately really have to do with advocating for the children? How is making fun of their parents being an advocate? (and you can't say you haven't made fun of them- comments about their hair, voice, etc.)

I just think we should stay on topic.

Just my opinion said...

I'm not sure how this blog commenting works - but I'll attempt it for the first time. I read constantly on this site about how the Gosselin children are exploited and how bad their life really is. It seems that people just don't seem to grasp that what you see on a 20 minute or so episode is hardly a picture of the family's life. I can also assure you that the video culled through editing to make up the "show" is done in such a fashion as to make interesting TV - obviously from the number of posts on this site per episode and in between - the editors and Figure 8 do a masterful job. Even those who claim not to watch always add that they visit here for the latest dirt (my word). There seem to be very unhealthy obsessions about this particular family. I submit that if I were going to go "over the top" and e-mail the world about a TV show I'd be far more likely to do so about the Duggars.

I think the Duggar children are truly exploited and in some ways it seems enslaved children.
Mom and Dad keep having more kids for the next "buddy"to raise. Michelle Duggar even stated on the first show of the new series that her 2 daughters whose "jurisdiction" the laundry room was knew more about the laundry room than she did. It's a sad commentary that the children in this family seem to do all the work. Not only that, but they wear second hand (or third) clothing and shoes. The sight of that little girl duct taping her already 2nd hand store boots was very bothersome. The fact that those children never get new shoes is quite disgusting. How many of you would like to wear shoes someone else has had their dirty stinky feet in and has gotten tired of our outgrown. A step further, how many of you would want your children wearing said shoes.

The fact that they are extremely sheltered was never more apparent than on the thrift episode. One of the older teenage girls said unlike other families they all want to go to the grocery store because it gets them out of the house. What a sad commentary on the lives these children lead if a trip to the grocery is the highlight of their week.

While I admit that I wouldn't want my children featured on a "reality" TV show or any other for that matter the Gosselin children do have new clothes and shoes and they do get out of the house for school and fun events

Sasha222 said...

I'm really glad to hear the positive responses toward my post, and I appreciate those who took the time to really try to understand what I was saying with it. I am not trying to bash Kate and call her an awful horrible person who is evil and vile. I am just trying to point out what greed can do to a person and she is a prime example. I totally have witnessed (in their home video footage) that she wasn't like this in the beginning. She was crazy about the twins just like any mother would be, and even when the tups were babies she was in love with them just as much. This is obvious. I'm not saying that she doesn't love her children, but I'm just pointing out how this free ride has completely damaged her. I do pray for Kate and her family and hope that one day she realizes what she is doing to those kids.

Oh and to the person who posted this:

""Also, who knows for sure that these people don't give back? You are basing your opinions on one or two hour episodes that you see each week. Not everyone finds it necessary to broadcast to the world that they are paying it forward.""

- So why do they feel that it is ok to broadcast how much they take and receive every chance they get but not when they give back? That kind of makes no sense to me. Why would they feel more proud to show her screaming at her children, belittling her husband, and gorging herself on material things, but not feel proud to show themselves doing something positive? Your comment is a backwards attempt to justify the fact that they do less for others then they do for themselves.

Toasty said...

Great post, Sasha. And I love this blog! I just discovered it. Already posted a link to it in my latest post... it's funny how when I was thinking of what kind of wife and mother I am NOT and do not want to be, I immediately think of Kate Gosselin.

http://myinnerteen.blogspot.com/2008/10/in-case-you-were-wondering.html

Anonymous said...

"Perhaps with 8 children,Kate and Jon are too wrapped up in meeting their daily needs to see that this is the time that they should cherish. Does it make them bad people? No, it makes them parents."

If J & K were to stop exploiting their children, perhaps they would come to appreciate that 'this is the time to cherish'.

Anonymous said...

This is exactly who Jon and Katie Irene are. We wish they were different, we wish they were better, we wish we didn't have to see them grabbing and grasping every single thing in sight. But that's who these two people are and who they always will be.

MomOfThree said...

This post says so much and is so thoughtfully and beautifully written, too. It is refreshing to see something written so matter-of-factly and without judgement. Sasha, perhaps all your years of struggle have given you an insight and appreciation alot of people lack. God bless you for thinking of others by paying it forward. I, too, volunteer at a "soup kitchen" and donate items to thrift shops. It is not always possible for me to donate cash, but it takes only arranging my schedule to donate time.

I think you have hit the nail on the head when you say that Kate is frightened by the thought of it all ending. Perhaps she is not motivated so much by greed or the need for attention, but by fear...fear of financial difficulty, for one. This could be why she sells the kids outgrown clothes to consignment shops, rather than donate them. Maybe, similar to people with eating disorders, she has a unreal perception of reality...in her case, money. She may think that she'll never really have enough to survive.

I also think that maybe J & K (or maybe TLC) is starting to realize that things have gotten way out-of-hand. SOMEBODY "over there" is taking notice of people's reactions to all this craziness. Somebody "over there" has given Mady the ok to not be on camera (at least for now); somebody "over there" has Alexis sleeping upstairs with her sisters, children being bathed in private and Jon letting his kids have fun. So maybe there is hope for them yet. Maybe they haven't gone too far over the edge. They really do have so much to be grateful for...beginning with healthy children...and sometimes people who are up there one minute need to fall hard the next to plunge back into reality. On the episode where they re-visited the NICU/Ronald McDonald House/condo, I really felt that we got a sincere peek into Kate's heart. Call it "damage control" if you want, but I think it was genuine, so maybe she does think about and want to help others.

In a way, I put alot of the blame on TLC. Yes, Kate (and Jon) were willing participants but I think TLC was very manipulative. They dangled a very lucrative carrot in front of very immature, naive, desperate(?)...in other words, "easy" targets. (This is where family and close friends come in handy...to keep you grounded, but sadly the G's have alienated those and replaced them with the TLC crew.) Make no mistake, TLC's interest is in keeping J & K happy, seeing that they get what they want. If it takes two designer wedding dresses to make Kate happy, so be it. The fact that the show brings in lots of sponsors' $$$ and lots of viewers to their network is their bottom line. However, with the success of the show, J & K now have some leverage with which to negotiate future contracts. I hope that this has occurred to them. I hope they insist that filming be limited to one week a month; they insist that the kids miss as little school as possible, among other things. I would imagine that at this point the show has earned them a tidy sum; I hope they have invested wisely so if they do have a tug-of-war with TLC and TLC doesn't take kindly to their demands, they can cut ties and have something to show for their years of "stardom".

Sasha222 said...

anonymous at 11:41PM

You talk about staying on topic and you are very right. But what you are saying doesn't apply to my post. I am not making fun of Kate's hair, or their lack of vocabulary, so perhaps staying on topic is some good advice you should follow.

And discussing Jon and Kate as parents have a lot to do with advocating for these kids. It's Jon and Kate's actions that are causing problems for these children. I'm not the type of person who complains and e-mails people and places because of what I don't like seeing on TV. But I have a MAJOR problem with all the nudity that is shown on J&K + 8, along with how much they show private acts such as being on the toilet, and a constipated child's diapered bottom being zoomed in on by a cameraman. I will never understand why this is allowed and it completely baffles me. To have your own family's private videos showing these type of things (baby's first bath and potty) is one thing, but to show the entire world is completely disturbing to me and should not have taken place to begin with. I'd rather be tortured in the most excruciating way then have ANY strangers see my baby girl nude. This is something that I have e-mailed and complained about (as well as written to the PA child labor board to). It's more important then any bickering about Kate's wardrobe or how many toys the kids get or whatever. It's something that I hope many more people are concerned with as well.

Lizziedrew said...

"Perhaps with 8 children,Kate and Jon are too wrapped up in meeting their daily needs to see that this is the time that they should cherish. Does it make them bad people? No, it makes them parents."

I am curious how Jon's hair plugs, Kate's tummy tuck and trips to the spa, extravagant vacations to Utah and North Carolina, and wedding vow renewal in Hawaii can be explained away as "being wrapped up in meeting their children's daily needs." They don't even take care of some of their children's ACTUAL daily needs, like meals. Craft services does.

I'm not buying into Kate's exhaustion at meeting her family's daily needs and having no time for anything else. Episode after episode proves she's busy with anything BUT the actual needs of her children.

Sasha222 said...

Just My Opinion said:
"The fact that those children (Duggers) never get new shoes is quite disgusting. How many of you would like to wear shoes someone else has had their dirty stinky feet in and has gotten tired of our outgrown. A step further, how many of you would want your children wearing said shoes."

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- Ummm I'm sorry, but for some people this isn't exactly a choice. Have you not heard of such a thing as poor people or something? Do you think some people can help having to wear second hand? Do you think they enjoy it? This comment is wrong in so many ways..

you also said:

"While I admit that I wouldn't want my children featured on a "reality" TV show or any other for that matter the Gosselin children do have new clothes and shoes and they do get out of the house for school and fun events"
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And so this is supposed to make everything better right? In my post I was trying to prove that life and happiness isn't only about nice material things. Just because the Tups have nice free clothing and shoes doesn't mean they are automatically happy because of it. Which would you rather have for your child; a nice new dress or memories of a warm, loving, fun-filled childhood?

Sarah said...

Anon 10:27

I agree with you. I'm sure that everyone will disagree but I try to think the best of people. I have wondered while reading the posts for the last several months if people are automatically assuming the worst of Kate. I agree with a lot said but we do not know that Kate does not sit back and count her blessings. We do not know that she does not pay it forward on occasion. I don't like how the children are being exploited by this series but, unless you know them personally, all of these comments are speculative. They may be true but they may not.

Anonymous said...

I really think that this commentary hit the nail on the head in so many ways. Thank you so much for posting this! There is absolutely no reason they can't donate their used items to needy children in the area or donate their own not so hard earned cash to local charities. You'd think they'd donate something to the NICU since they mention it all the time and even take their children there for reunions and whatnot.

my9cats said...

Anonymous said...
But you have no idea what Jon and Kate are really doing behind the scenes.

And you also don't know what is going through their heads.

Bloggers need perspective now more than ever.

10/22/2008 10:27 AM

You are absolutely correct in saying we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. The only thing I can say is if my family was on TV we would make sure to be on our best behavior. All the time. The thought of my child being immortalized on YouTube like "Bratty Maddy" or my family held up to national ridicule is appalling. 15 minutes of fame and money are not worth it. KON should hang their heads in shame.

Anonymous said...

I am a mother of 3 and have a hard working husband. We live comfortably (we both work) and I do most of shopping for clothes and (gasp) shoes at rummage sales. Of course I wash everything a few time before the kid wear them. I rummaged sale with my mom and having namebrand new clothes wasn't important to me. In fact, I find tons of name brand stuff for my kids for less then a tenth as what I would pay for new. My kids don't mind infact they love when I bring stuff home. That way we can save money for thier college funds. Does it really matter if my 4 year old goes to school in gap? Is she missing out? no. So it isn't "poor" people who thift shop and I think that was a "poor" choice of words.

Anonymous said...

I think this is a great post. One of Kate's biggest problems is that she cannot admit that she is wrong. Ever. I never heard her say that she was sorry for anything. So as far as her ever admitting that she has a problem. She first has to admit that somewhere down the line she made a mistake. I dont ever see that happening. Ever.

Anonymous said...

I just watched one of their first hor long specials. They were a normal family shopping at sams and not eating organic. Kate was calm and quiet. The kids were just kids. It made me hope that someday these kids can go back to having a normal life.

Rosey in Washington said...

Also, who knows for sure that these people don't give back? You are basing your opinions on one or two hour episodes that you see each week. Not everyone finds it necessary to broadcast to the world that they are paying it forward.

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Yes I agree that "not everyone" finds it necessary to make it known that they are paying it forward, but in MY opinion, Jon and Kate are CLEARLY "not everyone". I feel that they would NOT donate any time or money if they WEREN'T being praised and noticed for it.

I do not see the Gosselins, especially Kate, the kind to give quietly. Just like that Ronald McDonald house episode where she made sure the camera was RIGHT THERE when she gave them a check to "give back". Kate has to be noticed and appreciated for EVERYTHING, even things she shouldnt get credit for. Just like in the episode this week where Jon was talking about the Phillies managers wife being very nice and warm, and Kate had to make it all about HER saying, "Oh, like me?"

She makes me wanna puke. I agree that she is addicted to the "good life" and all the attention she is getting, but I dont feel sorry for her at all. Any woman who can sell her children's privacy and innocence to the world, and who can dis-own her ENTIRE family for the show does not deserve ANY pity in my opinion.

She has made this bed, so she can have fun laying in it.

This isn't a tragic situation where a mother is FORCED to sell her family's privacy in order to support her family....Kate CHOSE this life, she pursued it, this is what she wanted. So no, I won't feel sorry for her when all the consequences for her SELFISH actions finally come to light.

Like Dr. Phil says: WHEN YOU CHOOSE THE BEHAVIOR, YOU CHOOSE THE CONSEQUENCES!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think this is a great post. One of Kate's biggest problems is that she cannot admit that she is wrong. Ever. I never heard her say that she was sorry for anything. So as far as her ever admitting that she has a problem. She first has to admit that somewhere down the line she made a mistake. I dont ever see that happening. Ever.

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Right you are, anon. One of the things about classic narcissists is that THEY never have or are the problem AND they are never sorry for anything because it's ALL about them.

ThreeFarmers said...

Unfortunately, no matter how much they give back, they are still exploiting their children.

Kate nearly got one thing right. No one should be making money off their children, but that includes Jon and Kate.

KathyGriffith said...

Money does not buy happiness. This is evidenced for the nation weekly, as we see Katie Irene complaining and moping. Nothing is ever good enough for her, and by extension Jon.

alana said...

Poster at 9:23 AM said -

"...wealth and perks won't mean anything when the Gosselin family find (sic) themselves alone in their mansion on a hill."

Since Kate fancies herself the next Reba McEntire or Britney Spears, I thought of a great theme song for her MTV debut:

"Day after day
alone on the hill
The (wo)man with the foolish grin
is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know (her)him
They can see that
(s)he's just a fool
And (s)he never gives an answer

But the fool on the hill
sees the sun going down
And the eyes in (her)his head
see the world spinning round..."

Lennon/McCartney

I especially like the line "...never gives an answer..."
How perfectly fitting for our Kate.

Until recently, I used to wonder when Jon and Kate would see the light and either start giving back or suddenly repent and end the show. The former because they're such good Christians, the latter for the sake of their children's emotional health.
I could not fathom why they weren't getting "it."

And then it hit me like a ton of bricks - at long last I could stop obsessing over KON's insensitive snobbery and lust.

I could hear my father saying to me, "You can't live someone else's reality."

Freebies and all-expenses-paid-for vacations have become KON's new reality. Spa visits and white-linen-tablecloth dinners out are simply all in a days "work." Gymboree and Ann Taylor Loft have replaced their old Macy's Charter Club brand clothing. New carpet? They got it. New house? It's theirs'. Another kid? Just about had it...

In kindergarten, I'd whine to my father because my new best friend had snubbed me and sat with someone new at snack time. In high school, I'd sob when my latest long last love didn't call when he said he would.

On and on I'd go, thinking up reasons why. WHY? WHY? WHY?
Maybe this happened, maybe that. What if this, how come that...

Somewhere in between the birth of my fifth child and my third husband having an affair that ended our "perfect" marriage, (WHY did he do it?) I finally got "it."
My reality as a full time baby machine wasn't the great motivator my ambitious husband needed for his reality climbing the corporate ladder. (We were drowning in diapers and debt.)

I will not make peace with J&Kplus8 until it ends; only then will the eight children begin to have something resembling a normal life.

As for KON ever being the thankful, happy, and thoughtful parents they were pre-four seasons ago? Never. Their reality has taken them to places they can never return from; they are too far gone.

And that's the reality they chose. Day after day, alone on the hill...

LeeS said...

I just saw a repeat of the show from last christmas. Kate made a comment about how they had received emails from viewers asking if they could send christmas presents to the kids, and her reply was "Who am I to say no? They want to do it" (not exact, but that's the gist). I cringed.

If I was in the same situation, I would email back and say that I was very grateful for their thoughts, but please donate a toy to a childrens christmas charity instead, to give to an underprivledged child who won't be getting much for christmas. Every year I give to one, and I'm on disability. I'm pretty sure they can give up ONE toy for a needy child.

Kate isn't grateful. Kate is greedy.

ThreeFarmers said...

I just saw a repeat of the show from last christmas. Kate made a comment about how they had received emails from viewers asking if they could send christmas presents to the kids, and her reply was "Who am I to say no? They want to do it" (not exact, but that's the gist). I cringed.

I felt the same way when I saw this episode. When she said, "Who am I to say no?" I wanted to scream at the television, "You are their Mother who ought to be teaching them how it isn't appropriate to take presents from strangers!"

I swear that I don't know a single person who would accept gifts for their children from people they don't or just barely know. It is creepy.

Sasha222 said...

I too just saw the repeat episode of the Christmas one and I cannot believe (well I guess I can now) what she said about strangers sending the kids presents. It truly just made me feel embarrassed for her. Sending those presents back would be the best thing, but even better would be to donate ALL THOSE PRESENTS to a charity. There are more then enough children's toy charities at Christmas time. Those kids do not need so much crap. No kid does. Especially at such a young age where they get bored with a toy after five minutes! But thats just my opinion...lol

I am fairly new to the show as I just started watching it this year and try to catch up through re-runs, so I am really appalled at seeing certain things for the first time. She really has no shame. Every episode I feel more pity for her and feel more and more bad for those kids.

ScarySkierNewJersey said...

I would imagine Kate started to get attention when she had Cara and Mady. She mentioned that when they had the two girls, they dressed them alike in designer clothes and took them everywhere. I am sure two beautiful twin girls brought her attention. When she had the tups that attention magnified. I am sure that is when she realized loved being in the spotlight. I am from the general area and remember when all the local Philadelphia channels had the story of the sextuplets birth. I have to admit that I was curious about having all those babies.

As someone mentioned the first special was cute. They seemed like a struggling young couple trying to do what was right for their family. They were somewhat endearing to me. The kids were downright adorable and beautiful.

The series started and that is when I started reading about the people that had helped being dismissed like they were paid workers. The lack of grandparents, BOTH sides of grandparents exiled. The disdain toward used cribs and clothing. The $$$ they had in the bank, yet crying poor mouth. Kate demanding the state of Pa extend medical care etc etc. The series provided a lot of opportunities and it seems the more they get the more they want. They found out that viewers (who thought they were probably helping a struggling family) were willing to send free stuff, offer services or trips so they not only took advantage of it all but seem to toss out a "wish list" almost every week. Our van is broken, our house is to small etc etc and in most cases their wish is answered. I wonder if the plastic surgeon's wife knows she started this avalanche? Wonder how E M Tanner feels after providing lots of plates, clothes and other items only to have Jon throw his Valentine's Day shirt down on the ground and throw a hissy fit because it didn't fit? I notice the G's are no longer pictured on her website.

I would have had no problem with them getting a trip to Disney, but in a short amount of time it was Disney, Utah, Hawaii, North Carolina. How mny memories can you make as a family when every trip is a "working vacation"? Yes, the kids are getting to travel, but not in the normal family atmosphere. They quickly progressed from a pumpkin farm trip where Kate was so worried that they were so large they may not be able to travel like a "normal family" to going "hither and yon" at the expense of well meaning viewers and TLC.

They said they started doing the show because "they didn't have time to video the kids lives." Sad thing is the videos contain the bad as well as the good. I feel bad for Mady when she is descibed as "difficult" or "that's just Mady" episode after episode. The making fun of Joel's lisp and the things he says. I felt so bad for him the time Jon when to the gym and Joel said he was "daddy's son" and Jon told Kate and they both had an laugh at Joel's expense. As many have pointed out all their private moments are out there and will be for the rest of their lives. I am sure Jon and Kate will excuse this away in years to come as that's the breaks of the "family business" and look at all you have thanks to our years on TV.

Jon an Kate have a sense of entitlement and have no sense of pride as they sit back and collect their "goodies". They have both said at one time or another they have no desire to return to work outside the home. Great role models for the kids. Let's revisit the family in ten years when they are all teenagers and I am betting karma will be biting J&K right in their butts!

Anonymous said...

scaryskiernewjersey-

very well done. i read this and think: how can anyone NOT see these things? how can anyone defend KON's behavior?

Anonymous said...

- Ummm I'm sorry, but for some people this isn't exactly a choice. Have you not heard of such a thing as poor people or something? Do you think some people can help having to wear second hand? Do you think they enjoy it? This comment is wrong in so many ways..

you also said:

"While I admit that I wouldn't want my children featured on a "reality" TV show or any other for that matter the Gosselin children do have new clothes and shoes and they do get out of the house for school and fun events"
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And so this is supposed to make everything better right? In my post I was trying to prove that life and happiness isn't only about nice material things. Just because the Tups have nice free clothing and shoes doesn't mean they are automatically happy because of it. Which would you rather have for your child; a nice new dress or memories of a warm, loving, fun-filled childhood?"

Thank you for saving me the trouble of responding in very similiar words. So they have nice clothes and go on trips is something that has been said frequently. I think this is a shallow response that does not even begin to grasp the root of the problem.

Anonymous said...

I swear that I don't know a single person who would accept gifts for their children from people they don't or just barely know. It is creepy.
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It's not only that..the thing is, she does not usually even like what strangers give them. They may give them something from Walmart or something and she'd have to throw it out! Or unmatching stuff, etc. If she rejected so much stuff right after their birth when they really needed help, can you imagine how she scoffs at stuff now that she is such a diva? Those kids will witness her sneering over gifts and grow up spoiled and entitled. It's sad. They do not need all the extra stuff because KON already should have a ton of money considering they pay for nothing and notice how she does not keep anything in that barren house anyway!

Francis Farmer said...

It's funny that you mention working in a shelter's kitchen because I was thinking the other night that's exactly what the Gosselins should do. I would love to see some episodes that deal with them paying it forward- things like working in a shelter, planting a community park, picking up trash with an environmental group, going to a senior facility and making the elderly happy, running a drive for toys for tots, ect ect ect ad infinitum.

Instead it's nothing but a disgusting display of commercialism and always taking, never giving.

My family of 3 is not well off but I plan to instill helping others in my daughter as a basic tenet.

Anonymous said...

It's hard to be grateful when one believes that they are entitled to all they receive. Somewhere deep inside, it's as if J&K know what they are doing. They've sold out their family for money and fame. It was too easy.
I watched the episode last night where they talked about their family mission statement. Overall, it states where they will never put anything before their family. They will give back to others all the gifts they are so grateful to have received. Yet now, it's obvious they have not followed the goals they originally set as a family. Either this or they have since changed up their mission statement. I have noticed though that J&K usually have a way of twisting things around to suit what they want in a way to make it seem sensible. But anyone can see that they do have the desire to a) not have to go out and work a good 'ol fashioned job, b) get as many free trips, clothes, vans, homes etc.. as possible and c)omit anyone from their lives who don't agree with them. And all the while, they claim that this is what's best for their children. What's most obvious to me though...is that they are not happy as a couple. Money can't buy love or happiness. That's a fact:(

Anonymous said...

Someone mentioned Toys for Tots. Last night TLC repeated the Christmas episode where Kate talks about viewers emailing her, asking what they can buy the tups for Christmas. She says "who am I to say no thanks?" How about no thanks, my kids get enough, how about donating that toy to Toys for Tots? There isn't a charitable bone in that woman's body.

Also, they repeated an episode with KON spewing out discipline advice...yeah, I'll take their advice to heart. My six year old daughter was coloring on the floor in front of the tv, and she looked at me and said, "I remember when the little boy got gum on his toy, and his mommy throwed it away. That was mean!" Even my six year old can see through the facade. Discipline advice...puh-leese!!

cerrah said...

I've spent a few minutes reading various posts in this blog... and I have a sick feeling inside. Not because of all of the "truth" I've gathered about the selfishness of Jon and Kate, and their horribly exploited children. I feel it because all of you people feel the need to spend all this time criticizing this family. Does it make you feel better about yourself and your perfect parenting skills? Can you guarantee that if an opportunity came into your lives the same way it came into theirs you wouldn't take it?
But no, yours is a noble cause, to help their children!
Not seeing it. People have flaws. Some of my best friends do things in their parenting that make me cringe the same way that I cringe when I don't think Kate is perfect, but I don't feel the need to blog about it and rip them down.

Anonymous said...

On tv this morning, a commercial for "Seasons 1 & 2 of Jon & Kate plus 8 now available on DVD, get yours before it's too late !"

Yes, by all means, let's go out and contribute even more money to the greatest con job in all of history.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:39: That's what my kids say. I've heard "I'm glad she's not MY mommy" and "Why is she so mean to everybody?" and "She slapped the daddy in the face again".

We, needless to say, don't watch the show anymore. I adored seeing the little ones when they were small, but the parents are the most ungrateful, grasping, grabbing, takers that I think I have ever seen. They are terrible role models for anyone and I simply can not imagine why a corporation would think that using their advice or their picture on a product would make it sell to real mothers and dads out here in the real world.

ThreeFarmersWithAnAxe said...

I've spent a few minutes reading various posts in this blog... and I have a sick feeling inside. Not because of all of the "truth" I've gathered about the selfishness of Jon and Kate, and their horribly exploited children. I feel it because all of you people feel the need to spend all this time criticizing this family. Does it make you feel better about yourself and your perfect parenting skills? Can you guarantee that if an opportunity came into your lives the same way it came into theirs you wouldn't take it?
But no, yours is a noble cause, to help their children!
Not seeing it. People have flaws. Some of my best friends do things in their parenting that make me cringe the same way that I cringe when I don't think Kate is perfect, but I don't feel the need to blog about it and rip them down.


Sure you do. You just did it.

Anonymous said...

"you people feel the need to spend all this time criticizing this family. Does it make you feel better about yourself and your perfect parenting skills?"

Ok Cerrah, am I a perfect parent, absolutely not. However, I don't chastise, berate, humiliate, or threaten to toss my child's favorite toy away in front of millions of tv viewers. If KON wants us to take their parenting tips to heart, they should practice what they preach. They're the one's putting themselves out there, so they have to expect critical responses, whether is comes from this blog, CNN, A Minor Consideration, or anywhere else. BTW, sounds to me like you're reading the wrong blog, you should head over to GDNoP.

Anonymous said...

BTW, sounds to me like you're reading the wrong blog, you should head over to GDNoP.
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So if we have anything at all to say in the family's favor, we shouldn't be here? I thought these were discussions- not completely one sided bash sessions. Just because sometimes I don't agree with EVERYTHING on this blog doesn't mean I shouldn't be here.

Anonymous said...

Does it make you feel better about yourself and your perfect parenting skills?

***I don't think there is one poster who feels that they are the perfect parent above reproach or improvement. (actually, that person would be Kate). I am a better parent because of Kate - she is the weekly tutorial of what NOT to do in parenting.
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Can you guarantee that if an opportunity came into your lives the same way it came into theirs you wouldn't take it?

* If it meant that my child was in any way negatively impacted,yes, without hesitation.

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But no, yours is a noble cause, to help their children!

* I have written many emails expressing my disappointment/concern about the sponsorship of such controversial parents as KON. I am obviously not alone: did you see the recent CNN segment?

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People have flaws

* Yes, we all have flaws. However , what KON continue to demonstrate should not be catagorized as mere "flaws". They are greedy, deceitful, self-entitled liars who use their poor children for their own personal, selfish financial security.

This site is aimed at protecting the kids, and if that means calling KON out on their disgusting behavior, so be it.

Sasha222 said...

I am in no way, way, shape or form a perfect parent. I never claimed to be. In fact I am the furthest thing from a perfect parent and I make more then my fair share of mistakes when it comes to raising my child. BUT, I do not constantly make excuses for myself whenever I do something wrong and then turn it around to "oh poor me" whenever it happens. I don't constantly brag and brag about all the great things I do for my kids (when it's bull crap) or constantly mention ORGANIC every chance I get cause I think it makes me sound like a more caring parent or something. Most importantly, I also don't show my kid naked for the world to see in exchange for a pay check. So if by not exploiting my kid for money makes me sound like I'm claiming to be a better parent then Kate then so be it.

Anonymous said...

Last night, for whatever reason, my 10 yo woke up at midnight and started vomiting - on the comforter, on the carpet, everywhere.

As he is washing up in the shower and I am trying to determine the best way to clean up the mess, I started thinking of Joelgate. After my son is cleaned up and snoozing in bed with his Daddy, and, as I am loading the washer with the soiled items, I can't help but think of poor little Joel lying down on the linoleum floor of the laundry room, by himself when he was so sick.

I felt terrible that my 10 year old was so miserable, I can't imagine being so uncaring and cold to a 4 year old.

Anonymous said...

I wonder when they will be moving into their free mansion in NC, how ridiculous that they can raise a family in the house they are in now. Actually you know whats ridiculous is the fact that other peoples money is paying for their new house. If the Gosselins spent their own money on the house it would not be so bad but Im pretty sure they didnt, because it is rumoured to be wired for the show. So when the show is cancelled will they be kicked out of the house,

HA! wouldnt that just be sooooooo funny!

gracias, grazie, danke, merci said...

It could be that Kate is grateful for what she and her family have. The cameras take us into her home, but not into her heart, so we really don't know. I'm reluctant to attribute negative emotions to her or to anyone else. At any rate, "love is the theme," as the old hymn goes, and I would hope she's thankful for the love times nine she has in her life.

Speaking of music: I listened to Simple Gifts ('Tis the gift to be simple,/'Tis the gift to be free) over and over last night. After an intense morning of taking stock and counting blessings, it was nice to see a take on gratitude here.

Hey, and a happy almost-Thanksgiving to us all! :)

tripletsmom said...

I think Kate wants a house like Beth and Jodi have. I was watching one of the repeat episodes that had Beth and Kate organizing the rooms in Kate's house. Her and Beth then went shopping and Kate commented on how much she loves being with Beth. What happened to Beth. I think Kate treats people like objects, and it's sad. I'm sure that Mady and Cara miss playing with Beth's daughter. I just really wonder what excuse Kate gives to Mady and Cara as to why they don't see Beth's family anymore. Beth said in one episode that the families got together every Sunday. Kate needs to let the past be the past and get the family back together for the kids well being.

Anonymous said...

I too just saw the repeat episode of the Christmas one and I cannot believe (well I guess I can now) what she said about strangers sending the kids presents. It truly just made me feel embarrassed for her. Sending those presents back would be the best thing, but even better would be to donate ALL THOSE PRESENTS to a charity. There are more then enough children's toy charities at Christmas time.
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Wouldn't sending them back get Kate slammed for not being grateful, or for sneering at the gifts she's received? It's tough to send a gift to someone and receive a note back saying something like, "Sorry, our kids have enough toys, so we're sending it back," and not feel snubbed in some way. No matter how nicely worded the note, a lot of viewers who send the toys would probably come storming over here and eviscerate her.

As for donating it to a charity... yes, that would be a lovely gesture, but there's still a possibility that those who send the gifts would feel snubbed. If someone bought a gift specifically for Mady, they might feel upset that Mady didn't even get to open it, and instead it was sent to someone else.

As unhealthy as it may be, many viewers feel attached to the Gosselins and feel connected to them; they're not just buying a toy for a kid, they're buying a special toy for a specific kid. Giving them away to charity unopened is almost like giving away a present from a distant aunt or uncle without opening it.

My sister-in-law has a very large family, so every year my neice and nephews are inundated with gifts. They get more toys and games and clothes than they could possibly ever need. But as my sister-in-law knows it's rude to send a gift back to relatives or give a gift away without opening it, every year in early December she and the kids sort through their toys and donate about 75% of what they have (usually they only consistently play with around 25% of their toys anyway). That way they make room for the new toys they will receive and get to appreciate what their relatives give them, but charities still get boatloads of toys from them.

Anonymous said...

tripletsmom said...

I think Kate wants a house like Beth and Jodi have.


Jodi lives in the same subdivision, so her house is probably of similar size and value. It just looked a lot nicer because of the way it was decorated and furnished. Sure they don't have 8 kids, but they also don't have the cash and free gifts rolling in like the Gosselins.

Beth's house is another story, and it's on a large piece of property. I'm sure Kate just seethed with envy every time she went there. But Beth also has taste and class, and unfortunately for Kate, there isn't a doctor or a company who can give her that. Their new 8000 square foot house will probably look like a bunker inside just like their current house. And it pretty much has to, otherwise if the place was lavishly furnished, even the blindest, naivest sheeple wouldn't buy her cries of poverty.

cerrah said...

Holy cow, I thought I'd check back just for the heck of it, I had no idea you people were so passionate about all of this. I guess where I'm confused, is that all this seems to be doing is churning up a lot of negativity. I'm sorry that it felt like I was attacking all of you... I just don't think that dwelling and dwelling on someone else's imperfections or things that you *feel* they aren't doing perfect is a good use of a blog.(and feel is the key word. Because parenting is an indiviual thing, and just because they don't do it a certain way, doesn't make it factually wrong.)And I guess I don't buy the excuse that it's for the good of the kids. Obviously Jon and Kate nor TLC care what is said here. So if you have real concerns, I hope that more substantial measures have been taken. The reason I made the "perfect parenting skills" (a touch of sarcasm there, of course no one thinks they are perfect) comment is because so many people have here have directly compared themselves to what Kate did. (I have this child and we did it this way, and she's so rotten that she did it that way... etc...) That's a pretty direct way, in my opion, of saying "I'm better!" And I can only think that that is done to push oneself up in comparison.

Also, I wasn't clear enough. I was being also being sarcastic with the "seflishness of Jon and Kate" and "horribly exploited" comment. (Thus the reason I had "truth" in quotations at the beginning of the statement. Implying that I didn't believe it to be truth) So I wasn't contradicting myself. I thought it read that way, apologies.

Adeiu then, I will leave all of you to whatever this is all about, and not bother you again.

Anonymous said...

cerrah said...
I've spent a few minutes reading various posts in this blog... and I have a sick feeling inside.
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Well something made you want to come here and read all about it, so I guess you are not above anyone else. However, it does seem like you feel you are superior just because choose not to reveal your true feelings on matters even when the parenting of others 'makes you cringe' or when you agree it's horrible exploitation. Judging those who speak out doesn't really make you better though. Sorry.

Sasha222 said...

Today while watching the special where Kate gets her tummy tuck (first time watching it) I was shown several prime examples again of how different Kate and Jon were before the gravy train rolled in. I'm not a religious person at all, but right before Kate went into surgery and Jon pulled her close to him and prayed for her safety and recovery,it really touched my heart. It was a sweet moment between two people who truly care for one another. I wish it had all stayed that way...

Although when Kate came home she did almost sprint directly to Hannah first, and coddled her for a while, before moving on to the other kids. I don't know if this was coincidence or what. But there was definitely something odd about it. I never really noticed the favoritism everyone points out before.

Anonymous said...

The first time I cringed was when Kate made an ungrateful remark about the long sleeved birthday shirts that MC Tanner made for the girls' 7th birthday. I cringed for MC Tanner and her selfless generous gift that was scorned. Couldn't you just put the shirts on the girls for 5 minutes, crank up the A/C, shoot some footage of them, and leave out the fact that it's "80 degrees out"? Is it typically 80 degress on Columbus day in Penn?

Kate has SO MUCH to be thankful for. She won the lottery with 6 healthy babies. That right there is worth more than all the money in the world. Countless people would give their right arm for 1 healthy baby.

Jon isn't perfect, but he's a pretty decent father who pulls his weight in terms of sharing responsibilities w/ the kids. He's affectionate, loving and playful w/ the kids. Plus, he showed some maturity to take all this on at such a young age. Kate just doesn’t get it…

Anonymous said...

Kate has SO MUCH to be thankful for. She won the lottery with 6 healthy babies. That right there is worth more than all the money in the world. Countless people would give their right arm for 1 healthy baby

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You nailed that one!!!
And by all accounts I've read...they were not going to starve or be living on the streets. Their church offered to build an addition to their old home, the state of PA created college funds for the children, numerous donations were made, volunteers on hand...but it wasn't enough. How sad is that?

Anonymous said...

The first time I cringed was when Kate made an ungrateful remark about the long sleeved birthday shirts that MC Tanner made for the girls' 7th birthday. I cringed for MC Tanner and her selfless generous gift that was scorned. Couldn't you just put the shirts on the girls for 5 minutes, crank up the A/C, shoot some footage of them, and leave out the fact that it's "80 degrees out"? Is it typically 80 degress on Columbus day in Penn?

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They certainly had no problem making the kids wear winter clothing in 95 degree heat for the Good Housekeeping photo shoot.

Anonymous said...

Today while watching the special where Kate gets her tummy tuck (first time watching it) I was shown several prime examples again of how different Kate and Jon were before the gravy train rolled in.

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Unfortunately, you could see the "real" Kate even back then. The surgeon offered a tummy tuck and Kate tries to get a freebie boob lift also. Gimme, gimme, gimme. That's all Kate knows.

Anonymous said...

"And I guess I don't buy the excuse that it's for the good of the kids. Obviously Jon and Kate nor TLC care what is said here. So if you have real concerns, I hope that more substantial measures have been taken."
I beg to disagree with your assumption of, "Obviously Jon and Kate nor TLC care what is said here' All you have to do is watch a recent episode of J & K and it is very apparant that much of what we see as 'damage control' is a direct result of comments expressed on this blog site and others like it. Regarding your comment of ' I hope that more subtaintial measures have been taken'. Again, if you were to take the time to read through the entire contents of this blog site you will find evidence of 'substaintial measures' in the form of boycotting sponsors of the show, writing letters of concern to various state and local officials, contacting the news media, expressed concerns regarding the Gosselin children on behalf of Paul Peterson and AMC (A Minor Consideration) to name a few.

gracias, grazie, danke, merci said...

"Unfortunately, you could see the "real" Kate even back then. The surgeon offered a tummy tuck and Kate tries to get a freebie boob lift also. Gimme, gimme, gimme. That's all Kate knows."
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Kate's relatively young, and I imagine she still needs to learn diplomacy in asking for things; it's not a skill one learns overnight.

I gather that Kate's early years, before marriage and children, were rough emotionally and financially. When a person experiences any kind of deprivation as a child, there's sometimes a tendency to try to fill up all the empty spaces. She may be having difficulty in rejecting what she was never offered before.

I understand why observers would take Kate to task for some of the ways she deals with her children. (For that matter, I've been a mother for thirty years, and I'm still smoothing out the rough edges in my methods.) What I don't comprehend is why there are so many attacks on picayune matters such as her hair, her weight, and her home decoration. Those issues have little if anything to do with the issue at hand, the welfare of the children.

Kate's no angel (neither am I), but I'll cut us both some slack. Life's a long and arduous process, and it doesn't all happen at once.

I wish we could have more compassion for all the members of the Gosselin family and not just for the cute little tykes who are so easy to love.

Peace to you all!

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

Kate's relatively young, and I imagine she still needs to learn diplomacy in asking for things; it's not a skill one learns overnight.

Kate is a woman in her mid-30s she's not THAT young. It's not like she isn't aware of all the criticism out there. She knows what much of society and her own family thinks of the way she and Jon use their children to get what they want.

Jon and Kate are gambling in a very high-stakes poker game and they've anted up with their children. That's quite a risk and not something most sensible people are willing to do.

Anonymous said...

All you have to do is watch a recent episode of J & K and it is very apparant that much of what we see as 'damage control' is a direct result of comments expressed on this blog site and others like it.
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I for one am grateful that there are some changes being made. But, when you read this blog you see that the thing is now she can't win. If she stays the way she is it's horrible. If she changes it's damage control. What would you have her do?

ThreeScaryFarmers said...

I for one am grateful that there are some changes being made. But, when you read this blog you see that the thing is now she can't win. If she stays the way she is it's horrible. If she changes it's damage control. What would you have her do?

You obviously haven't read the blog, or at least only read what you wanted to read.

I would have her end the show and get a job and take the burden of supporting the family and the families of those on the production staff off the backs of her children. I would have her (and Jon) stop representing themselves as people who are "in need" so that there will be no more love offerings.

That isn't a difficult notion.

Anonymous said...

gracias, grazie, danke, merci said...

I gather that Kate's early years, before marriage and children, were rough emotionally and financially.

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May I ask where you came by that assumption? Just curious, because I've not read anything to that effect.

Anonymous said...

Kate's relatively young, and I imagine she still needs to learn diplomacy in asking for things; it's not a skill one learns overnight.

I gather that Kate's early years, before marriage and children, were rough emotionally and financially. When a person experiences any kind of deprivation as a child, there's sometimes a tendency to try to fill up all the empty spaces. She may be having difficulty in rejecting what she was never offered before.

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Kate was not a teenager when she received the tummy tuck. She was a grown woman. If she's adult enough to have 8 kids, she's adult enough to have some manners.

I did not grow up with a lot money. My parents WORKED HARD so we could have a comfortable, but certainly not luxurious, childhood. I had summer jobs from the time I was sixteen . My parents don't expect to be handed anything, nor do I.

Kate gets NO sympathy from me.

westmemphisgirl said...

I married at 18 and yes I knew what I was doing. I had a child when I was 1mth over 20. I missed out on a lot. So sorry, but being young has nothing to do with making poor decisions. She knew enough to graduate nursing school, have infertility treatment knowing they produce multiples as she had it with the girls. Don't even go there anon. Unless she was unschooled, uninformed, some how mistreated, abused, poor and had poor examples I doubt her youth played anything into behavior.

Anonymous said...

The house shown in Penn. is absolutely beautiful, but Kate has mentioned several times that she wants to move to a warmer climate.

I guess I'm glad I'm not famous. It seems to be addictive. The more you get, the more you want.

Laura Linger said...

This is a great post. Beautifully stated.

In many ways, KON remind me of lottery winners. You've heard of the "curse of the lottery"? It would appear that it would be every dream of every average person, personified. Yet it often isn't, and having such money and fame all at once creates more problems than it solves.

When you remember that the "lottery" comes in the form of six little human beings, matters get even more complicated.

All that I know is: the straw argument against those who criticize KON is, "you're just jealous." To which I must respond, and emphatically, NO, we are NOT. I think that those of us who "get it" when it comes to these two greedy people are the same people who have found some measure of happiness and contentment in our lives, and are able to see what is truly important in life, especially in a child's life. (Helpful hint: it isn't all the freebies.)

Anonymous said...

Jon isn't perfect, but he's a pretty decent father who pulls his weight in terms of sharing responsibilities w/ the kids. He's affectionate, loving and playful w/ the kids. Plus, he showed some maturity to take all this on at such a young age. Kate just doesn’t get it…

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Comments like this really make my blood want to boil. It really gets to me when Jon gets a free ride. He is exploiting his kids just the same. He may be more outwardly affectionate, but he sits and mocks his kids just as much as Kate. And he "shows responsibility to take on this at such a young age?" I cant imagine how not being able to hold down a steady job is "taking it on" responsibly. He didnt hold a job and just wanted freebies. Seriously, KON is a duo.

Anonymous said...

Comments like this really make my blood want to boil. It really gets to me when Jon gets a free ride. He is exploiting his kids just the same. He may be more outwardly affectionate, but he sits and mocks his kids just as much as Kate. And he "shows responsibility to take on this at such a young age?" I cant imagine how not being able to hold down a steady job is "taking it on" responsibly. He didnt hold a job and just wanted freebies. Seriously, KON is a duo. I second this emotion. Jon maybe doing more of the hands on care of the children but he buckles under any pressure from Kate. Want another kid when he knew that a family of 4 really would be about all they could handle. He couldn't stand up and say NO. I really don't understand why he even married the woman when they didn't have the same goals in life. And he just continues to allow her to run the show and lost his job because instead of going to work he had to entertain Kate and take care of the kids because heaven forbid she bathe a child. I'll never forget when the little girl had a poop explosion and she whined that Jon was the bather of the children, what ever would she do! WTH, did you have children for and become a SAHM if you can't handle the least little problem? Jon also has been shown not only mocking the children but being rather rough with them, often belly aches they annoy him and as above seems like he never intended to grow up and be a real father figure by holding a job to support his family.
And as so many other commented on the next statement, What?!
Kate's relatively young, and I imagine she still needs to learn diplomacy in asking for things; it's not a skill one learns overnight. She may act like an airhead teen but she's in her mid-thirties. No way is she able to use the excuse of youth for her blundering through life. The other thing that you'd think would help her make better choices is the chest thumping "I'm a wonderful Christian mom and person!" She is the example of Christian that turns off so many people. Really do church leaders want those of us that have little use for bible thumping to be again reminded church is about greed and lies? Sad that churches bring them in to speak and I wonder how many people like wondered why our local church was doing that so when they Googled them to find out and then got all the back story on this couple went hmmm. I wasn't thrilled with the church and what my children were getting from their Sunday school so them bringing in speakers like this just helped me make the decision that I'd rather not send them to any further "lessons" from the church.
Sorry for the rant but the excuses for either of these two are just too much for me to take. The issue never was for me if they loved their children but that they continue to make bad choices and set bad examples. Kate just seems to be a classic example of an abuser to me in the way she isolates her children so no one can know the real "reality" of those children's lives. I worry for them. No only the harm from the constant TV exposure but from the continued behavior of the parents.

Anonymous said...

Yawn... It's so boring now. It's like visiting the set of "The Wizard of Oz" You've got the "Organic Lollipop Guild" (kids) and the Wicked Witch of the west Kate and the dopey Wizard who was all blow. (Jon). Aunt Jodi can be Dorothy she saves the day.

Markiesnana said...

Jealous?
by Markiesnana
Don’t put a label of “jealous” on me
Cause the Gosselin family I’d rather not be
The stress and confusion and all of the noise
The blatant demeaning of the value of boys
Most of this originates with Kate herself
But a loving family is the true test of wealth
Six innocent babies came to this earth
They all should be loved and cared for since birth
Showing favorites in front of the camera is wrong
And I’m hoping we’ll see the end before long
The parents are greedy and contracts were signed
But the treatment of the kids brings this to mind:
They’ve been robbed of privacy, family and friends
While Jon spouts he’ll go to the earth’s far ends
Kate parades them on stages and commands them to smile
But the faces show the agony of each traveled mile
And children grow up… it seems Kon forgot
To remember the hours under lights that are hot
They also recall the tiring display
Of their lives being sold, night and day
The benefits will last just a short while
Then Kon will realize the meaning of guile
They’ll suffer the loss of a close knit group
As the kids recall having to jump through a hoop
To please directors and producers and Kon
And the truth on their young minds will soon dawn
The Dionnes have spoken but Kon isn’t hearing
The kids are on a ride and the parents are steering
The fork in the road has already been passed
Throughout the kids’ lives the damage will last
So don’t put a label of “jealous” on me
The gift of discernment is what others see

Laura Linger said...

Markiesnana...that's awesome.

Nominee for post of the week.

Anonymous said...

I caught a back episode (least I think it was...I try not to watch because Kate makes me nauseous) where Kate keeps going on and on and on and on about their digital camera. I am assuming it's all a ploy for her to get a free one. *barf* Too bad she's such a money grubber. I'd take her "old awful digital camera" since I dont have one. In fact, we watch a 20+ yr old TV and don't have heat in our house. Hmm, now if I could get a TV show and beg every week for money I could have heat, a camera, AND a new house w/out a leaky roof and all that other "stuff", too!
ha!
Just really upsets me thinking about people of lesser or severely reduced economic means, sacrificing and doing without to give to the Greedy Gosselins. That bothers me even more that the situation their children live in. At least they have food, housing, etc, some of the people giving to their parents might not. I worry about it.

Anonymous said...

BRAVO!! The last line is the best!!

"From what I hear (as I refuse to buy it), Kate says "thank you" many times in her book. Well, to be technical, *Beth* and/or the ghost-writer says "thank you."
All of these volunteers ---who, according to Kate, talked about unimportant drivel and wandered about her house not caring about her one bit ---- waiting for you thanks? The church-goers who paid their utility bills? The strangers who gave love offerings? Well, now you can have a "thank you, I appreciate you" from Kate! $11.99, please."

debi said...

I have read post after post and largely agree with what has been written. What about the comment Kate made to the kids when Jon tried to discipline Collin in one show? She said something like "Ignore Daddy...he's just mean". I couldn't believe it. You don't think the kids will forget that?

I too have noticed changes in KON's attitude since the beginning of the show. Now they're "diva" like.

The best way to help these kids get off the air is simple. Something each and everyone of us can do and it's rather simple. JUST STOP WATCHING the show. If they continue to have high ratings...the longer they'll be on the air. If viewers stop, the ratings go down...show gets canceled. It's as easy as that. I used to LOVE the show...but I for one stopped watching. Why continue supporting them by watching?

I can't wait to watch the "Where are they now" series in about 15 years. Who will be in rehab? What tailor park will parents be living in then(if they're even still together)?

Be pro-active...just stop watching their show.

Anonymous said...

Saying stop watching is a simplistic statement. The ratings come from Nielsen families and tracking DVRs (Tivo type things). If a person or family is not a Nielsen family or has a provider tracking DVR usage, it doesn't matter whether they watch or not. It doesn't count it in the ratings.

Anonymous said...

The Gosselins ARE still on EM Tanner's website which means that is 1 more retailed I won't buy from. Shame too we are a family of 7~including a set of multiples. HHHMMMM maybe I should ask for freebies?

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate did have a garage sale where they sold the things they received for free, but they donated the money they made to pediatric cancer research.