Sight and Sound

TLC is airing a new Jon & Kate Plus 8 episode tomorrow night (Monday September 15th) -- a 30-minute feature starting at 9:00 p.m. Eastern titled Sight and Sound:
The Gosselin children learn about the story of Adam and Eve by watching an interactive play at the Sight and Sound Theater in Strasburg, Pennsylvania.

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iluveeyore said...

May I just say, before I even watch this episode, that I couldn't believe that this is a Christian show... That's the best live show they could find? What about waiting for ice capades? Or the circus?

They could have gone to see "The Lost Colony" at the Outer Banks and it would probably be less traumatic and more enjoyable for the kids... but they seemed to spend the 2 weeks in the pool and running up and down the decks of the beach house.

The coming attractions made this show look terrifying for little kids. Shades of the boogie man and the bear who "eats Joel Kevins."

Paula S said...

Kate is trying to losen up on Kate's rules.

Can you say DAMAGE CONTROL?

Paula S said...

Jon wants a Pot Belly Pig. HINT HINT! But it must be organic!

Anonymous said...

WHO paid for the stuffed animals or was Kate steering the kids towards freebies! Its easier to loosen up on he rules when you are NOT paying for it! :)

Hober said...

At first I thought I was going to be surprised that Kate actually turned down a freebie (stuff animals), but then she proved herself to be a taker again by allowing the kids to each choose a stuffed animal...ummm, sure because this time is was free, last time they went since it wasn't on the show, she probably would have paid for the stuffed animals herself.

Paula S said...

They also want a standard poodle. HINT HINT. A pot belly pig and a standard poodle. Coming right up!

sis said...

The guide, Kristin, was hugged, thanked, appreciated...whoa. Must have been Cyborg Kate. I keep reminding myself that they don't read the blogs.


And Jon clearly says we "bought the stuffed animals", but Kristin clearly states that they were allowed to choose whatever they liked (Kate said this too. Jon agreed it would depend on behavior.) Totally irrelevant as far as their exploitation goes, but it just this inconsistency in some small silly things that makes me question everything.

Kristen said...

So it seems all our guesses were wrong about what she was having a cow about..or should I say half a cow? Ha! Anyways, I guess the shock of Jon offering to help floored her?

Anonymous said...

OMG I can't believe that is what she got so excited about. Here everyone is thinking its a pregnancy, or the Hawaii trip, or something good...but its just Jon asking what she needed?!? I mean she has been asking him to do this forever but I think they made way too big of a deal about it.

sis said...

I should have waited to post.

Gag gag gag gag gag gag gag....

MAJOR damage control at the end. You heard it. I can't bear to repeat it.

scoodle said...

That little bit at the end about the kids learning from all the traveling, and all the relationships they've formed from traveling... felt like obvious damage control.

scoodle said...

Oh, and I find it interesting that now they are finally repeating "How We Got Here" - I wondered why that one had been missing from the lineup of reruns.

Anonymous said...

Interesting... the final 2 minutes of the show were all about damage control. Jon and Kate's words were in direct response to this blog and others like it.

"We don't need a lot of helpers."

Now they've explained the sudden disappearances of Aunt Jodi, Beth and others. Whoever they hired for PR is certainly doing their job.

Anonymous said...

Oh of course. The speech at the end about how the children have learned from their trips was complete damage control. What stuck out to me was when she said that one of the little girls will put her hands together above her head and say she is streamlining. That does not justify the private swim lessons in NC. She could have learned that at any pool back home.

Anonymous said...

"Now they've explained the sudden disappearances of Aunt Jodi, Beth and others. Whoever they hired for PR is certainly doing their job."
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Well, maybe they can continue to fool the sheeple, but they DON'T fool us. This is blatant damage control.

Kristin said...

Wow, Kate almost cried b/c she saw an animal head on a blankie. Funny, it's the very animal she tortured him with when he got gum on it. She's still the mean, nasty con artist she always has been, and more and more people are seeing her true colors.

Sera said...

Well, first, the positive things I noticed...it was nice to see Kate and Jon laughing a lot in the episode and playing with the kids, hugging each other, etc. I saw glimmers of the people they used to be in the beginnings of the show. I don`t know, those moments were nice. I`m also glad they addressed the issue of Alexis potentially being segregated due to her sleeping in the basement.

But, we again witnessed Contradictory Kate in action. First she is all saying how she didnt want them to take stuffed animals because they have too many and sort of hinted that she`d hope they`d forget about it; but then as they were playing on the stage, she hurried them so they could pick out their free toy...whatever.

Mady seems to really latch on to women - I noticed she was very huggy with Kristen, and I remember she was that way with Sara Snow, too. All that darling child wants is a little bit of attention from an adult female. It`s really sad. I wanted to reach into the TV and give Mady a hug and take her for ice cream so she could talk my ear off and feel special.

The end comments about the benefits of travel really seemed out of place with the tone of the rest of the show. They hadn`t just taken a trip, they just did a family outing. It definitely reeked of damage control to me, since it just seemed so out of context.

This episode wasn`t so bad, although Kate was pretty snarky at the beginning I had thought we`d be in for a bad ride.

Sashaa said...

I have been reading your comments for a couple of weeks now and it is SO fine to know I am not the only one wondering what the hell is WRONG with those people!!
Tonight's episode was almost gag-inducing to me. It's funny how they are trying to dispel almost everything negative posted about them on the net right now. If they were smarter they would throw a few into every episode rather than trying to ram them ALL down our throats in a mere thirty minute time frame. Did anyone else notice Hannah's hair was finally not stuck to her nose or lips?
That is about the only thing that made me smile in the whole episode. :)
Oh, and the licking?
She's lucky she didn't have my boys..they used to try and lick each OTHER's faces to drive the other one up the wall!

Anonymous said...

iluveeyore- Have you ever seen a show at Sight and Sound? It is amazing...children and adults LOVE it. I have seen younger children see shows there, as well as older people and that's the wonderful thing. All ages can go together.

I loved this episode...all around I find nothing to snark about :)

Anonymous said...

This show was meaningless. The content of the shows the cuteness is wearing off. The two twins are getting older now and are almost as tall as there parents. Now that the tups are 4 years old the baby talk is not cute anymore. I tired of this family getting special treatment everywhere they go. With the economy the way it is it is sickening to watch a undeserving family get so much free stuff. Why should Jon and Kate be continously rewarded for their bad behavior. The show is boring and should not be on the air

Anonymous said...

Who will take care of the pot-bellied pig and the standard poodle while the whole family is off traveling???

Katie said...

Well, they can deny it all they want, but its now 100% clear that they ARE paying attention to what the sane people of America are screaming from the rooftops; that they're a greedy, selfish, and ungrateful couple.

I was glad to see them scramble at the end of the show to do the damage control. It means that we're getting through and putting pressure on them. And hopefully we'll be able to get the real point across and they will stop this ludacris business of exploting their young children. Clearly they're starting to get the point and open their eyes to something more than dollar signs.

lizzys said...

Yes, they went a bit overboard with the thanks but at least someone got through to them. For those of us who watched for so long, it seemed to hit us in the face. Also when Kate was describing the show, she said it showed how God created the earth. and "What was depicted the first two Books of Genesis." I have at least five versions of the Bible and there is only ONE book of Genesis. I realize that is nit picking, but it just sounded so odd.

Liz said...

It seems to me that at the end they were making excuses for their bad behavior but they figured it all out. They were mean to each other because they had too many helpers. Kate acts the way she does because Jon never asks her what she needs. And yes, they are thankful to everyone. It is also okay that the kids can't cut paper or know their letters but they know what streamlining is from their travels. It is okay Jon is not working because they are spending time together and in love again.

Anonymous said...

Katie said: Clearly they're starting to get the point and open their eyes to something more than dollar signs.
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It's not that they "get it" at all. If they "got it" they'd quit doing the show, get marriage counseling, go to parenting classes, and get real jobs. What they "got" is their PR people telling them that had to say this.

Anonymous said...

Well, since all the kids are LEARNING so much, why are they still so desperate for them to learn letters and numbers, as they stated in the 9/8 episode? Hmmm...damage control, folks! I hope those poor kids don't eventually LEARN how their parents pimped them out for money, but didn't think to have a college fund!

goldensglitter said...

Just a few observations....scene with the girls on the interview couch, too cute! One of the alligators name was Carson? Did anyone else pick up on that or was I hearing things? Kate, her usual sharp tongued self at the beginning of the show, very mellow the rest of it. Also, once a taker, always a taker I say. Couch interview, pure damage control. Well, damage control throughout the show really. The PR firm is earning it's big dollars. I got a kick out of Kon trying to condone all of their traveling, freebies, on and on because they are making memories for their family. The whole interview had a very strange tone to it. Gosh, and no message ridden t-shirts this episode? Just Kate fixing her bra strap a hundred times. Geesh, this show needs to go, but they just cannot give up on the money. I did enjoy the little girls on the interview couch though.

Megan said...

I can tell you all that I would rather watch a reality show about a standard poodle and a pot belly pig living together and trying to make it in the world than this staged damage control nonsense!

Lolli said...

Did anyone see Hannah slam down hat expensive looking Vtech when she found out Collin licked her bear or whatever?

And Kate never mentioned what animal Mady picked out!

Anonymous said...

So let me get this straight, TLC is now paying/filming Jon & Kate to perform damage control on their previous bad behaviors? Kate act nice. Kate smile more. Jon offer to help Kate. Kate smile more. Kate say thank you. Kate say we don't need no helpers. Kate smile more. Show Jon taking each child out of the van. Show less of Jenny. Show more of Kate smiling. Show Kate not yelling. PAY JON & KATE TO DO THE ALL THESE THINGS. For a show. For a buck. For Damage Control. What a joke.

Anonymous said...

Wow, that was a lot of damage control.
Now Alexis chooses to sleep in the basement. And Kate wants to make sure that all 3 girls are close but she has been pushing the Hannah and Leah bond since they were babies.
They don't need helpers, except Jenny, the film crew, the people who are giving them the weekly freebie, the creepy gray haired guy that follows them around but is never mentioned. Guess they just don't need anyone who isn't on the payroll and can't be told what to do.
All the kids love traveling. Guess Kate has forgotten that she has talked about how the kids need their routine and get crabby when they don't get it.
It was a good try but I am not buying it.

I also thought it was funny that they said they needed a buffer around them so they didn't disturb other people. Did that show not only give them free seats but also clear the rows around them? Because they showed a lot of empty seats. I am sure that was because Kate didn't want to bother anyone else.

Collin bit a stuffed animal while Hannah hit him, threw a toy, threw a fit and tattled. But Collin got the time-out. Nice.

Anonymous said...

How many more shows do we have to watch of pure damage control?

xsandlapper said...

They have 8 kids they can't handle. They definitely don't need a dog. Well maybe a Shetland Sheepdog. ;)

MZ said...

Did anyone notice, when they came home from Sight and Sound, that Jon and the nanny got ALL the kids and their stuff out of the car while Kate JUST SAT THERE IN HER SEAT!!?? I could not believe it. She didn't offer to even try to get the kids that were awake and leave Jon to carry the sleeping ones. She just sat there while they scurried around, getting the kids. Wow...I am speechless. And after Jon asked "What can I do for you" (as if he doesn't do everything himself already!) all she can come up with is "I need you to fill their cups with juice and take them downstairs". They seemed to be playing just fine (not in the kitchen, where it would be "distractionary" to her) so I didn't understand the need to shoo them off, only to have to bring them back up shortly for dinner. I try to rationalize her actions most times, but these things really have me questioning her again.

Anonymous said...

This is supposed to be a show about their "real life."

How many of us have a PR firm advising us how to live our "real life"?

Anonymous said...

I loved when Jon said that knowledge means nothing unless you apply it. How about taking his own advice and use his knowledge to get a job?

Anonymous said...

Well alrighty then. I guess they told us ha?
Guess we should close down the blogs and move on LOL......

Good try Figure 8.

goldensglitter said...

Lizzys, you are so right, that one got by me, the 1st 2 books of Genesis? What is wrong with him? Actually, I think the religious overtones lately seem so contrived and is really irritating to me.

In addition, this family does NOT need a dog! As you can tell, I am a dog lover, and I would not subject any dog to this family! Too many small children and 1 adult that I cannot see within 2 feet of any dog. I can just see Kate housebreaking a puppy, cleaning muddy paws, cleaning up poop, on and on. NOT! And a standard poodle on top of it? Omg, she's nuts.

I am really trying hard not to nit pick, really. This epi was just over the top.

mlou said...

What I find hilarious is that Kate throws a fit about being asked what she needs. Hey, Kate it should be the other way around.

However, she may be afraid Jon will respond with "I NEED a new wife."

gj said...

I'm sorry but the last interview portion of this episode was total BS! They mentioned the fact that the're better off only having 1 helper as opposed to a whole lot of people. I think it's a cop out and they only did it to make themselves look better and to quiet the critics. I don't buy it for a second. In fact, I only caught that last interview portion of the show and I could sniff out the acting.
I've been talking to some friends about the truth behind this show and they've mentioned that they too no longer watch the show. They don't not watch the show because of things they've read or heard but rather the fact that it's become too staged. They've never even heard of these sites but they preferred watching when the cameras captured the actual daily events of the family and now it's turned into a production of field trips, vacations, etc. The word is spreading folks and it won't be long before this show is history.

Anonymous said...

It was GWOP complaints all wrapped up in one neat little 30 minute package.

Truly it should have been named The GWOP episode.

Christine said...

I thought there was only one book of Genesis?!?!

MZ said...

There is one book of Genesis, Jon meant the first couple of chapters.

ThreeFarmers said...

Words not in the Gosselin vocabulary:

"Thank you for offering, but we have plenty."

Accumulating for the sake of accumulating is the worst kind of waste. Which of the seven deadlies is it? Lust (not sexual, but material)? Avarice?

How can they not see themselves for who they are?

Anonymous said...

I'm not so sure they should dismiss Joel (and Collin's) chewing on stuffed animals as "sticking it" to Hannah or whose ever toy they're chewing on. They could be seeking sensory stimulation also. I know she's called them "chewies" in the past, but isn't 4 years old kind of old to be chewing/teething on stuffed animals and toys?

ThreeFarmers said...

I haven't been able to get through all the posts yet, so I don't know if it has been mentioned, but did anyone else notice the sudden growth spurt in tonight's episode?

When sitting on the couch, JON was several inches taller than Kate. It was like they had him sitting on a pillow or something. Usually, Kate sits a bit taller or they are about the same height.

I don't think it was my imagination. I guess they finally helped Jon to grow a pair -- a pair of inches, that is.

Anonymous said...

I will no longer be watching the show Jon and Kate. The greed and the freebies are nauseating to say the least. Everywhere you turn people are giving this family so many free things. They do not deserve or need anymore free items. They have plenty already. The kids are too old to be hitting each other the way that they do. The show is boring and I do not see it going on for another season. It is the same old same episode after episode. Every episode is a trip after trip, then more free stuff, and yet another trip. Stop the madness please the viewers cannot take anymore of this greed. How selfish was it for the family to create a buffer zone with empty seats. That is very arrogant and selfish. When are they going to start to teach their kids that in the real world people have to pay for things. That there is such a thing called money that you have to earn. It does not come in a big truck delivered by TLC.

Anonymous said...

This episode was just horrendously horrendous. Has the Kon PR firm been scouring this site? That last 2 minutes or so tonight at the end was tailor made for the GWoP'ers.

Those two Kon artists are as phony as the day is long.

Katie Irene=never one to turn down a freebie.

MZ said...

three farmers said...

"When sitting on the couch, JON was several inches taller than Kate. It was like they had him sitting on a pillow or something. Usually, Kate sits a bit taller or they are about the same height."

Kate was slouched down in the chair, with her feet up on something (unseen) making her appear shorter than Jon. But it was just the way she was sitting.

Anonymous said...

How many telephone books was Jon sitting on in the couch scenes?

Anonymous said...

This is my last post on the GWOP. I am done watching the show. We should not give them anymore ideas about how they can improve the show. They are using it to make this show more appealing to the sheeple. I hope that by the end of the year that TLC will surprise us all and take this riduculous show off the air. Whoever heard of getting enjoyment off of watching children being exploited on national television.

goldensglitter said...

I noticed too, TF......like you say, maybe he finally grew a pair. The damage control overtone is so transparent.

Also, there is nothing charming about watching all these epi's with all the traveling, freebies, on and on, when most people are feeling the pinch right now, with or without kids. What other show does this? I don't watch a ton of tv, but nothing comes to mind. They are going to eventually run out of places to run to. Most people seem tired of it already. I always enjoyed what interactions this family had with former friends and family members. The problem is, you can't hire friends and family members.

Personally, I can see the effects this show is having on the children. It is very subtle, but the effects are there, imo.

Anonymous said...

Do you want to know what really bothered me about this episode? Kate was standing in the kitchen and Mady walked in with a drawing that she made. Kate told her she wanted to save it and said she loved it, as she was walking away! Can this shrew ever stop for one minute to praise this kid? No wonder she's so messed up. All Kate does is go through the motions. She barely gives this kid the time of day.

ThreeFarmers said...

Do you want to know what really bothered me about this episode? Kate was standing in the kitchen and Mady walked in with a drawing that she made. Kate told her she wanted to save it and said she loved it, as she was walking away! Can this shrew ever stop for one minute to praise this kid? No wonder she's so messed up. All Kate does is go through the motions. She barely gives this kid the time of day.

You're so right. It occurred to me during the Utah episode that ran tonight that part of Mady's irritation lies in the fact that she does not like being a number. What comes off as contrariness is this little girl insisting on being an individual. No matter how many kids are in your family, each has to be treated as an individual.

She isn't trying to be difficult as much as she's trying to stand out from the pack.

Poor dear. I just love Mady.

Anonymous said...

re: stuffed animal for Mady -- didn't she get a skunk?

Anonymous said...

Gluttony is that sin you're thinking of.

Also, it makes me so mad that Kate insists that Jon ask her, "What do you need me to do?" Does she ever ask HIM that?! She is really too much.

Some of you are impressed at Kate thanking Kristin, but honestly, I was kind of bothered by the way she said it. I am not being nit-picky about Kate, but maybe I am just kind of nit-picky about being thankful in general (and I would say this same thing about anyone). She didn't seem overly thankful to me actually. She gave a little half hug and in a monotone voice said, "Thank you, we appreciate this" or something like that.

I guess I am just thinking if that was me, I would be way more "gushy" and not for show, but genuinely gushy, like, "This was really special for us, thank you SO much, the kids loved it, we loved it, this was such a special treat, you didn't have to do this for us, but we REALLY appreciate this," etc. On the other hand, I realize that might be unfair of me to expect that from her. Maybe she would be uncomfortable talking like that. Who knows? All I know is that she comes across as semi-rude or really rude about 95% of the time.

I will never forget the first time I thought, "I would NEVER be friends with this person." It was when they were interviewing the nannies, and Kate was in the garage talking about that one girl while that girl was in the house. Kate was all, "She is NOT going to cut it." I thought that was SO rude, knowing that girl could and probably would watch the show. Did she really need to say that?

Anyway, I digress.

Kate has issues, clearly. Like I even need to say that on here! haha

anon said...

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the way Kate blew off Mady when she brought her a card she made for her. "Put it on my desk".
Unfortunately, if we continue to watch the show, it will continue to air. And they know it.

Anonymous said...

"I hope that by the end of the year that TLC will surprise us all and take this riduculous show off the air."
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This may be way out there, but I wonder now that the Duggar's are going "full time" with their show (and produced by Figure 8), if KON will be phased out sooner than we think. People have to be getting sick of this ongoing crap and the Duggar's will seem totally refreshing by comparison (as strange as the Duggar's are).

Anonymous said...

I only caught the last 10 or so minutes. I can sum up what I think I saw in 3 letters: WTF? Seriously? Okay, then...

I've never seen a more uncomfortable hug than the one Kate gave Free-Toy-Woman.Get that woman an acting coach!

I can't wait until PETA finds out that the G's are getting a Poodle!

And, let me get this straight; no craft services on that particular filming day? Or, when they said Kate was making dinner, did they mean she was plucking off the catering table and plopping on em tanner plates? I bet they gave the "CAST" change for the vending machines to keep their blood sugar up for that shoot -- am I right or what?

Jon and Kate are in luuuuuuv -- foreshadowing/Aloha-ha-ha!

It's not easy being "blessed" (wealthy) because living large means your PR peeps make you try to convince total strangers that you're so blessed (wealthy) -- and grateful.

My head was spinning. And the worst part of it is that I found the young heroin addict I was watching on Intervention to be more genuine at her attempts to justify her existence than the G's.
That's it for me. Adios, Gosselins.

Pepperpot3 said...

"I can tell you all that I would rather watch a reality show about a standard poodle and a pot belly pig living together and trying to make it in the world "

I belive that there already is a reality show like that; it's called Jon & Kate plus eight.

sharpmom4 said...

Ok, kate has some issues, but i think people are getting WAY to picky...way over analyzing everything that is said. Abou the stuffed animals..she said the FIRST time they were there, Kristen offered them free animals. But if you paid attention, the man behind the counter scanned the animals they were buying meaning Jon and Kate were PURCHASING them themselves. I have worked for many independantly owned operations and have seen MANY owners give away goods to family/friends and have never once been told to scan them before they got them, if the owners are giving away something to someone, it just comes off a shelf and goes directly to them--never seen it scanned first.

i have 4 kids of my own and babysit for up to 8 others 5 days a week for up to 12 hours a day and i sure wouldnt want someone following me around with a camera.

Anonymous said...

My hubby - not someone who watches the show regularly - saw the last five "damage-control" minutes had a comment...

The guy sounds sincere but the woman is lying through her teeth - look at her fidget...tell-tale sign

Lonnyswife said...

Sear said:
Mady seems to really latch on to women - I noticed she was very huggy with Kristen, and I remember she was that way with Sara Snow, too. All that darling child wants is a little bit of attention from an adult female. It`s really sad.
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This was such an astute comment! I was lucky enough to fall asleep before the episode started and woke up during the meltdown on the airplane to Utah episode, which was pretty scary! BUT what jumped out to me was during the ice skating rink scene when Mady heads out to the ice to show her mom how she can do circles. She falls pretty hard on the ice and gets up, starting to cry. Kate asks if she is okay, Mady says something about her arm, she's crying, Jon says something, Kate says something........and never once does Kate pull that little girl into her and wrap her mommy arms around her to comfort her. She has a hold of Mady's wrist ( rather limply I might add ). So, Sera's comment really reiterated my feeling about Mady's need for a mothers love.
Too sad!

Linda said...

Oh, I feel so much better knowing that Alexis is sleeping alone in the basement by her own choice, not because she was put there by her parents because she would wake the other kids up...wait, isn't that what Kon said they did in the Utah episode that followed Sight and Sound...

Their PR people better do a bit of research!

Anonymous said...

I am done with this show. This was the phoniest thing ever. I can't imagine what kind of person would believe any of the justification and lies at the end of the show. They so obviously read every word that is written about them. It is BULL that Alexis "chooses" to sleep in the basement "like a bat". Why did Jon have to apologize and say he was wrong and she was right? To me it sounded like it was his idea to put her down there. Regardless, it was not a little girl's idea and how horrible that her sisters were saying it's not her room! Foster a bond between them my butt. Kate has never cared about that kid. They don't need too many helpers, huh? Riiiight. I dislike these people more than ever. Hey, Greedy Kate! MY Kids like to travel too! But since I didn't have a medical miracle no one is handing them freebies. Come to think of it, it's actually a good thing. I feel sorry for those kids. They are growing up thinking no one works, they are special and everything in life is free. Bleccch! No wonder they are incapable of behaving ever.

AliceAnonymous said...

Collin bit a stuffed animal while Hannah hit him, threw a toy, threw a fit and tattled. But Collin got the time-out. Nice.

I think Hannah is behaving very much like Mady. Of course Jon and Kate will gloss it over and say 'That's our Hannah' in the same way they refuse to acknowledge that Mady is screaming to have her identity recognized as an individual. A lot of people think Mady's a brat. I think she has more balls than her daddy. Kate's body language said it all when she turned her back on Mady after she showed her her drawing. There wasn't an ounce of sincerity in her voice when she said she loved it. Biatch.

Anonymous said...

sharpmom4 - if their cash register is hooked up to their inventory system, that would explain the toys being scanned. I've worked enough retail jobs to know that even when you give stuff away, it still has to be marked out of inventory... no matter how small the business.

Anonymous said...

My 10 yr old son has gotten hooked on watching this show. I have no idea why. He just likes to see the kids. My 17 yr old daughter hates it with a passion though. I turn it on but have no idea why other than to see them continue to spin their greed into new tales of appreciating everything and feeling blessed. Yeah right. I'm glad my son only watches to see what the kids are doing and doesn't see what is really going on with these hideous adults (although he does think Kate is mean and obnoxious).

Anonymous said...

I know it sounds trite at this point, but I do think I am finally over this show. I realize that for almost the entire show, I am rolling my eyes at something that Jon and (mostly) Kate said:

- Kate mentions that even though Alexis CHOOSES to sleep in the "dungeon" because she thinks she is a bat or something, she should still help clean up her room. Little Katie is such a pathalogical liar that she can't keep her lies straight. We have all heard Kate say that they put Alexis in the basement because she wakes up the other girls.

- like another poster stated, I also noticed that her "thank you" to Kristin was lame - so disingenuous.I also noticed that not one of them said thank you when Kristin was holding the door open for them.

etc, etc, etc.........

I almost wish I didn't know all the truths - this episode , from the opposite standpoint, was actually minimally offensive (due to all the damage control).

PS I only noticed this today, but it's so obvious that the clothing the kids wear is BRAND SPANKING NEW (prob from our friends at Gymboree). They are all matching outfits still on the white plastic hangers..........

Lonnyswife said...

I have my suspicions about the reason for the boys sucking on the stuffed animals. I doubt it has anything to do with 'marking one's territory'. It could be interpreted as a sign of anxiety in general or separation anxiety. There is quite alot of commontion around the house most of the time and I am wondering if (was it Colin & Joel both?) are doing this as a way of soothing themselves. Perhaps they weren't quite ready to give up their pacifiers to Baby Benny. Understandably it would be difficult to attend to everyone's emotional needs but I think Jon&Kate need to take this seriously if it continues to happen. Punishing the boys is only going to make the problem worse.

pokie said...

Looks like the Figure 8 folks scripted the entire Jon-Kate interaction at the end to make viewers believe that the relationship between the two is improving. By having Jon ask Kate if she needed help it made him appear as if he's willing to try to please her. And her reaction on the couch, kissing him and looking so tickled pink, makes the average viewer believe that they are happier in their marriage. After all, how else are they going to explain the renewal of vows if folks believe they're not in love?

Also, the statements re needing only Jenny's help and that the kids love to travel are leading up to the Maui trip. How else would they explain the lack of family at their vows?

Anonymous said...

I agree with Alexis being a mini version of Mady. If Alexis were Mady's age Alexis' response to Kate saying that she should still have to clean her room, would be 'mom, it isn't my room. I don't get to live in it."

Anonymous said...

"- Kate mentions that even though Alexis CHOOSES to sleep in the "dungeon" because she thinks she is a bat or something, she should still help clean up her room. Little Katie is such a pathalogical liar that she can't keep her lies straight. We have all heard Kate say that they put Alexis in the basement because she wakes up the other girls."


It is possible that Alexis was originally sent down there in order to prevent her from waking up everyone else and that after a few months, she was allowed to go back upstairs and chose not to!?!

former fan quinn said...

"The guy sounds sincere but the woman is lying through her teeth - look at her fidget...tell-tale sign"

I noticed the fidgeting too! Kate was squirming around in her chair and twisting her earring nonstop.

The damage control was so ridiculous in this episode!!! All I could think was OMG they read this blog all the time. It was too pathetic. I was really floored by the "we don't need much help" comment. What a slap in the face to Aunt Jodi, Beth, and the others.

I have to also say that the scene with the two girls being interviewed was precious! Those two are adorable. I really can say that I did enjoy a lot of that episode. The cute moments with the kids are nice.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like I made the right choice again to watch The Closer instead of this unreal Gosselin "reality" show.

It's funny how some people feel like it is wrong to nit-pick, but what's the big deal?

The people who think you shouldn't pick on Jon and Kate won't be happy until no one says anything negative about them, so don't worry if they think you are nit-picking or not, just say whatever you feel about this show, Jon and Kate are the ones putting their life on display for all to watch and comment on.

If they really wanted privacy and wanted to not be talked about, they would stop pimping out their life for cash and freebies.

Anonymous said...

Kate is so mean to Jon. She totally cut the man off by the knees when they were discussing the girls room at the beginning of the show.

She's a meanie!

SmartyQ said...

I've about decided this show isn't even worth snarking over any more. I've caught them in enough lies, seen enough awful behavior, listened to the stupidest things that could possibly fall from two persons' mouths and heard 'awesome' enough to last me for a while. Kon are and always will be third-rate, trashy people, and that's that.

Anonymous said...

It's interesting that J&K don't really have friends, other than Beth who became a friend after the tups were born. And i notice none of the kids have outside friends. Very sad.

Kris said...

Helllooo Duggars.

Buh Bye Gosslins!

I think the Gosslins see the writing on the wall and were clearly performing damage control. Much much much too late to start to try to hide the inherent greed and bad parenting.

My only concern is this: With the cameras out of their lives will they turn to even more bad parenting because of depression and stress?

Those poor kids. 10 years from now I bet we'll be reading about them in the tabloids. I foresee so many problems ahead for all the kids, not just the ones who are not "favored".

Anonymous said...

Please Please stop dressing those kids alike. The older they get, the creapier it gets! Especially the older girls. They are TOO old to be dressing alike! And the whole napping thing, they are too old for scheduled naps every day. Most three year olds don't take naps anymore. This show is so boring now.

Anonymous said...

Sight & Sound Theater

3 adult tickets $47 each
8 child tickets $16 each

A nice $269 freebies, not including the free stuffed animals that they DON'T need (according to Kate).

I also find it interesting how they're pushing the damage control so far as to let us into their "Christian" life.

Ilovemykids said...

The end of that episode was nauseating!! And it obviously points out that Kate lied and they do pay attention to what is said about them. I'm still trying to understand why Figure 8 is so deperate with their damage control. Those of us who are anti-exploitation are smart enough to know what they are doing and see it for what it is. The only possible reason that Figure 8 is going this route is because they realize what an impact this site and others is making in getting the word spread about the exploitation of the Gosselin children and they are banking that with this "new" Kate, people will stop the questioning. Of course, that means Figure 8 really believes that most people are stupid. While, there are the sheeple that feel Kate and Jon can do no wrong, most people are clearheaded and can see the different direction Figure 8 is trying to go with Kate and Jon. Perhaps the viewing public will start to question why the sudden shift and realize we've been right the entire time.

grannie annie said...

Wow, How crazy. I don't watch anymore, put am still a proponate.
I noticed last night it wasn't a normal marathon on tv and it had a couple of other different show which I did find interesting. I think the "g's" kids are cute but clueless, because of their age, of the future and that is honestly the saddest part. Who wants to be 12 and someone talk about you being shown your poo on national tv. How embarrassing. Ahhh bless their hearts.

pullthegosselinplug said...

Damage control is one thing - outright lies are quite another and are an insult to our intelligence and this episode was full of them.
From Alexis"choosing" to sleep in the basement to Jon stating twice we "bought" the stuffed animals, it is absolutely clear they are reading the comments and responding to them.
I will say this - now when Kate says she is "exhausted" I will believe her - it is exhausting to keep up with the lies you have told to try to stay one step ahead of them while all the time laying the groundwork for what is coming up - appearing to be sooooo in love so that the vow renewal makes sense. My gag reflex went into overdrive on that one.
And, in addition to paying attention to what might be the underlying cause of the boys and their "licking" (which I agree with lonnyswife about that) - now, there is also Alexis saying she is "nervous" - these kids are waving white flags everywhere but no one is coming to their rescue.
When Kate said they are down to just one helper because down the road it is "just going to be us" - is that her way of making herself feel better because she already has no friends or family to turn to? She is a real piece of work, isn't she? And, the kids behavior at the Sight and Sound show once everyone else had cleared out and it was just them (the running wild) was pretty bad.
Sight and Sound spent well over $1000 on them that day and they should have been on their best behavior.

Sara said...

RE: "Pepperpot3 said...
"I can tell you all that I would rather watch a reality show about a standard poodle and a pot belly pig living together and trying to make it in the world "

I belive that there already is a reality show like that; it's called Jon & Kate plus eight."
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LOL! The resemblance is uncanny. I've heard that many people's pets are a reflection of the owner, but this one is just scary!

Kristin said...

On a really funny note, did anyone hear precious little Aaden at the beginning of the show? They were in the store the first time...and Aaden is trying desperately to get Jon's attention to show him an animal. Aaden finally yells out "Hey JON, Jon..Daddy!!" OMG, to cute. I guess he figures it works for Mommy so he might as well try it too. The interview at the end with Alexis and Leah was adorable too.

Paula S said...

"How many telephone books was Jon sitting on in the couch scenes?"

Jon was sittiing on his wallet.

Paula S said...

It might be a crazy life, but it's ARE life.

Well, it used to be their life. Now it is their PR firm's life.

Anonymous said...

There was something that confused me about this episode, and if anyone can clarify it, please do!
Kate said that the first time they went to Sight & Sound, the kids were offered a stuffed animal but Kate declined b/c they will overtake her home in no time. THEN... a few minutes later she gushed about how they had never been to Sight & Sound before and how this was such a special treat for them.
So, if that was the case, how could they have been offered stuffed animals prior to this (their first) visit? They must have visited Sight & Sound prior to this taping for the kids to have been offered the toys, right?
Like I said, if anyone can clarify, please do! Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Just because the clothes are on hangers doesn't mean they are brand new. Lots of people use the hangers over and over instead of buying new ones.

Anonymous said...

I loved the sights and sound theater. I would take my kids there if we lived close. This episode was a tad bit on the boring side for me though. Especially w/ all the hype leading up to it, like something "big" was going to happen. And Jon probably does offer his help, but Kate is too busy barking orders and screaming that she can't hear him.

Anonymous said...

The issue, for me, isn't whether or not Jon and Kate display true love to each other in the confessional. It doesn't matter to me if the whole episode is damage control as directed by the PR firm and encouraged by Figure 8 because they've hit the mother lode of hits.

The point is that no child's life should be lived with cameras focused on them as if they were an animal act. In fact, whether or not we see any meltdowns on screen or any more private moments like bathroom and bathing, children should never grow up as part of a reality television show. The family income should not be dependent on living your life on TV.

The fundamental premise is wrong so, for me, it doesn't matter what the episode is about -- there shouldn't be an episode at all!

discoball said...

I stopped watching the show about a month ago because my disgust for Kate, in particular, was at an all time high. It is getting to the point now where I don't even want to watch TLC anymore because during the commercial breaks I have to hear her shrieking over one thing or another. TLC and Discovery Health make up approximately 90% of my TV viewing so for me to cut out TLC because of the KON commercials says alot. It's like listening to nails on a chalkboard every 10 minutes. Frankly, not worth it.

With that being said, I was sure from suffering through this week's commercials that Kate's excessive shrieking was in response to an announcement of the Hawaii trip. From reading these comments it sounds like it was because Jon asked what he can do to help her? Just like Kate has dreamed all these years? Is that really what it was? Even in the scene when they were in the living room and Kate shrieks and kisses one of the 'tups? Sorry but if that's what it was then her reaction was sooooooo far over the top it's not even funny.

discoball said...

aliceanonymous - I also think Hannah acts like Mady. It's just that when Hannah was a baby, Kate's take was "oh Hannah just needs her more" and it was a cute thing and allowed her to always have a kid in her lap. But now that Hannah can speak and demand attention in other ways I think her behavior will be very similar to Mady's. I feel bad for Mady. Can't the kid just get some love?

Anonymous said...

Yes, many three-year olds still nap.

Anonymous said...

Hannah must have "low blood sugar" too. How any of them would with all the juice they drink is beyond me, but that is the reason for most of the bad behavior that is displayed. Also,maybe the boys suck on the animals because they know it causes the girls to get upset. They tease the girls and the girls cry and the boys get in trouble. Any attention, whether it is good or bad might be better than no individual attention at all

Anonymous said...

I tuned in late and did not even watch the episode...so what was the big surprise? Anyway, I did catch the repeat of Utah, and what struck me the most as I half listened was Kate and Jon's explanation of the backpacks with the little kids names on them...how they cover them with tape for security? Well, duh, that's a great idea when walking any child through a public place, but they act like they thought of it and it's so brilliant. But the biggest thing is when Kate explains "so nobody can call their names, unless someone already knows their names..." and as she says this it's like she realizes "oh crap, a lot of people know my kids names because I have them on a nationally known show" It was just such a hypocritical, contradicting moment for me...I mean, come on!! You are putting tape on the bags to PROTECT your children from predators, yet, you expose them to such a degree that any obsessed person could call out to them, because not only do people watching the show know their NAMES, they know EVERY SINGLE little thing about them to use and abuse to get to the kids. I just find this so frightening and I don't know why this does not disturb these parents. I would be so scared for my kids. End the show and live a normal, safe life, please!

Anonymous said...

my point is that even three year olds usually outgrow naps, and these kids are 4 1/2 and clearly Kon depends on "naps" to get them through the day...perhaps thats when their "help" changes shifts

Anonymous said...

This show's ending was definately damage control with a "D"!!!! It was so obvious at the end when they doing their dialog that they were addressing all the dirty laundry that has come out about them. As I watched and listened to it, all I could think was, "This is sooooooo scripted!!". It wasn't even subtle. It was just so blatent.

Towards the beginning, did anyone notice how Kate bit Jon's head off over stating that the upstairs bedroom was not Alexis' room? And Kate went ballistic. Man, she needs some meds or something.

Anonymous said...

What I don't get is why, with all that's at stake for TLC and the producers, they don't seem to have anyone on board who is skilled and professional, to coach J&K and oversee the editing. It wouldn't really be that difficult to sanitize the show, and have J&K be forthright and quit using the word "blessed" as a euphemism for "given a promotional freebee". BTW did anyone else notice the part where Kate was laughing that one of the boys said "Jesus made Adam from the mulch", what tickled her was that he said "mulch" instead of "dust"--but it seemed to pass completely over her head that Jesus wasn't who created Adam? I thought her father is a minister.

Anonymous said...

"They tease the girls and the girls cry..."

The girls scream and then they cry. I have never seen kids scream at the top of their lungs as much as they do. In my family, that would not have been tolerated. Doesn't matter if you have 1 child or 10, these people need to teach them not to scream if they don't get their own way.

Jim S said...

Although being agnostic probably colors my opinion, I thought the Sight and Sound thing was extremely tacky...like the Radio City Music Hall Christmas show on steroids...and what was Jesus doing in Genesis anyway? Oh yeah...dramatic effect or license....or whatever.

I'll add myself to the "damage control" crowd...I just rolled my eyes as they listed off all their "blessings"...aka freebies. If the kids do learn something from all their experiences, great...I just hope they don't come to expect the special treatment when the spotlight fades.

The show has become a trainwreck, yet I keep going back and will probably test out the Duggar show as well. I think I need help.

Anonymous said...

I don't think TLC or the producers has any intention of sanitizing the show. After all, its the bad behavior, etc. that keeps people watching. I do think they felt it necessary to do a little bit of mopping up on last nights show to give their "faithful" audience a reason to keep believing their story. I have actually always thought that the production people know that Kate is just a bad person and they kinda get a kick out of showing her true colors on air...the show is really quite boring now...like 10 minute devoted to the kids picking out stuffed animals

Anonymous said...

"What I don't get is why, with all that's at stake for TLC and the producers, they don't seem to have anyone on board who is skilled and professional, to coach J&K and oversee the editing."

I guess because controversy sells better than just a wholesome show about a normal family. At least that is why I think they are not editing a lot of stuff out. The producers much realize that people tune in to see Kate's bad behavior. It's makes more headlines than if she were a quiet, gentle mother who adored her children.

BTW did anyone else notice the part where Kate was laughing that one of the boys said "Jesus made Adam from the mulch", ...but it seemed to pass completely over her head that Jesus wasn't who created Adam? I thought her father is a minister.

I took note of that too. Her ignorance is becoming so obvious. She really is clueless and I'm afraid she's not that intelligent. Thank goodness she's not working as a nurse anymore. I'd be very afraid to have a dullard such as Kate administering meds to me if I were her patient.

Anonymous said...

I have been a Catholic all my life (I know, to Kate, that's not a REAL Christian, and thank goodness Jon's not being brainwashed by Catholicism any longer! *groan*), but I was very confused by something in the Sound and Fury show, or whatever it was called: What was Jesus doing in the OLD Testament? Hmmmm....

Ilovemykids said...

I'm proud to say I did not watch last week's episode, and only the last few minutes of this week's episode. All this show had become is one big field trip of freebies for the Gosselin family. In these economic times when people are losing jobs right and left, people's savings are being lost due to bank failures, etc., and these two idiots think that they are entitled to nannies, free vacations, free field trips, free food, and on and on. I just am angry that these 2 people who have no clue what real "blessings" are allowed continue to show their con game week after week after week.

Anonymous said...

Quote: "The guy sounds sincere but the woman is lying through her teeth - look at her fidget...tell-tale sign"

There is a HUGE amount of confessional couch fidgeting going on in the more recent episodes. Liar Liar pants on fire!

beachluvin said...

discoball said...
"........With that being said, I was sure from suffering through this week's commercials that Kate's excessive shrieking was in response to an announcement of the Hawaii trip. From reading these comments it sounds like it was because Jon asked what he can do to help her? Just like Kate has dreamed all these years? Is that really what it was? Even in the scene when they were in the living room and Kate shrieks and kisses one of the 'tups? Sorry but if that's what it was then her reaction was sooooooo far over the top it's not even funny."
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Yes, that's all it was, Kate excited that Jon asked her what help she needed. She was so excited that she kissed Jon and hugged and kissed one of the tups. Now, if she would only do that when lets say, one of the kids makes a pair of orange earrings, or does something else they are proud of. But no, of course it's all about Kate and her needs. So sick of this show and her! IMO, the show is on its way out. Was this the most boring show ever? The tups are growing up folks, the cuteness is wearing off and the show is finally on its way out!

Moons in Leo said...

Paula S said...
"How many telephone books was Jon sitting on in the couch scenes?"

Jon was sittiing on his wallet.

9/16/2008 4:22 AM


Comment of the Week!!!

Moons in Leo said...

Anonymous said...
"They tease the girls and the girls cry..."

The girls scream and then they cry. I have never seen kids scream at the top of their lungs as much as they do. In my family, that would not have been tolerated. Doesn't matter if you have 1 child or 10, these people need to teach them not to scream if they don't get their own way.


That's how their mother behaves.

Anonymous said...

What I thought was real funny about last nights episode was when they came back home from Sight and Sound, I counted Jon removing four children from the van along with two bags while Queen Kate just remained in the passenger side of the van sitting still. What is up with that? Guess Queen Kate was totally "spent" as Jon put it. LOL> She made him lug all those babies in by himself while she just sat there. It must be so exhausting to be her.

Anonymous said...

Ok, kate has some issues, but i think people are getting WAY to picky...way over analyzing everything that is said. Abou the stuffed animals..she said the FIRST time they were there, Kristen offered them free animals. But if you paid attention, the man behind the counter scanned the animals they were buying meaning Jon and Kate were PURCHASING them themselves. I have worked for many independantly owned operations and have seen MANY owners give away goods to family/friends and have never once been told to scan them before they got them, if the owners are giving away something to someone, it just comes off a shelf and goes directly to them--never seen it scanned first.

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Totally disagree. Not getting into details but we were offered whatever my son would like in one of their gift shops one time on a trip to Disney. One of the directors of the park was there with us. My son got to pick whatever he wanted. They scanned the items at the register but the director gave the cashier a code to put into the register to cash everything out even. We didn't pay a dime. They have to put the items into the system for inventory purposes. And in this episode I didn't see the man scanning the items? I just saw him holding them. But still, even if he wrote the items down or scanned them, they could of been credited out at the end. Why would Kate bring up the free gesture the first time? And I doubt the owner's daughter would offer free animals the first time and not the second. She was right there with them the whole time they were in the gift shop.

Nancy said...

"Alexis saying she is "nervous""

I imagine she meant "excited". No hidden meaning there, IMO.

The parents are dressing the kids and there they are, running around in their underwear for the cameras. Haven't these kids been shown in their underwear TOO MANY times already? Why is it necessary to violate the privacy of these children? Nothing wrong with 4+-year-olds at home in their undies, but there's something wrong with repeatedly filming it.

Anonymous said...

and what was Jesus doing in Genesis anyway? Oh yeah...dramatic effect or license....or whatever.

There was no Jesus ....one of the kids interpreted it that way...that Jesus brought Adam out of mulch.

Anonymous said...

Sear said:
Mady seems to really latch on to women - I noticed she was very huggy with Kristen, and I remember she was that way with Sara Snow, too. All that darling child wants is a little bit of attention from an adult female. It`s really sad.
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She is that way with Jenny (watch Sesame Place again) with Beth (plane ride to Utah) with that one blond nanny that didn't make the cut (watch how happy she is talking with her in the garage) with Beth's older daughters. It's obvious she's reaching out for love and acceptance from a mother-figure because she's not getting it from her own. Did you see how happy she was (in a background scene) of her asking Kristin to go with them to the gift shop? She claps her hands and then grabs her hand to walk with her. Awwww sad but telling.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't TLC stand for "The Learning Channel?" Seems to me the only think we're 'LEARNING' is how J&K exploit their children and constantly lie and how Figure 8 films tries to cover it up!! Pathetic. I am no longer a viewer of this armpit of a show!

sugarjay said...

Damn. Hard to keep all those lies straight isn't it, Kon?

First of all, when have we ever seen Kon fostering a close relationship between Hannah, Leah and Alexis? When the twins went for their photo shoot they only brought Hannah and Leah while Alexis stayed home with the boys (the ONLY girl who didn't get to go), she was left with the boys when the kids got split up for the California trip with the twins, and then there's the whole basement thing.

Has Kon forgotten that they already said Alexis sleeps in the basement because she wakes up the other kids and therefore wasn't allowed to sleep in her room? But now the reason is that it's a "nice dark basement" and Alexis is like a bat? WTF? We've seen Kate putting the kids in their rooms for "naps" with the shades pulled and the lights out so how is the basement darker than her bedroom?

The best part was when it made Kate want to cry when she saw a whole rack of freebie stuffed animal blankets. In the gumgate episode Kate seemed just fine about how she acted over a speck of gum on Collin's favorite bear but a rack of freebie toys makes her tear up?

moi said...

Ilovemykids said, "All this show had become is one big field trip of freebies for the Gosselin family. In these economic times when people are losing jobs right and left, people's savings are being lost due to bank failures, etc., and these two idiots think that they are entitled to nannies, free vacations, free field trips, free food, and on and on. I just am angry that these 2 people who have no clue what real "blessings" are allowed continue to show their con game week after week after week."

Hear, hear! This should be a separate blog post. You have hit the nail right on the head.

anonymous said, "There was no Jesus ....one of the kids interpreted it that way...that Jesus brought Adam out of mulch."

When we were shown a clip of the performance, there was an actor with long brown "Jesus" hair, wearing a long robe, commanding someone to do something. I certainly got the impression that that was supposed to be Jesus, misplaced as he certainly would have been in the Old Testament.

Jim S said...

Every man on stage had long hair and flowing robes, so I just assumed...besides, fig leaves and flesh colored body stockings on Adam & Eve probably wouldn't go over well with this crowd.

Anonymous said...

Wait, I am totally confused with this woman; perhaps I don't watch the show enough. It seems the husband does a TON around the house for her and the kids. You're telling me the grand surprise she was screaming over was him asking what he could do to help? Please, Kate, get some perspective. Your husband seems to do a lot and you already have a ton of help. Again, many other families out there have large families, and even some kids with special needs. Your husband can stay home with you full time. How much more help can you need?

Ruthe said...

The production company should save a few dollars and keep the Gosselins at home for a change to make an episode about Mom and Dad disciplining the children from hitting and biting and crabbing and moaning. Some of their behavior is way out of bounds. If you have ONE child you nip that stuff in the bud, but eight??? Cripes, these kids are really going to be a pain in the arse when they are exposed to other children in a school setting.

The tups really are too old to be acting out the way they do and the twins seem to be adding to the bad habits.

Anonymous said...

sharp4mom -if as you say:
"i have 4 kids of my own and babysit for up to 8 others 5 days a week for up to 12 hours a day and i sure wouldnt want someone following me around with a camera."

You are certainly breaking a law in the state you live in. That is too many children per one adult [unless you have a helper you didn't mention] and if, as you say, you wouldn't want a camera following you around? I wouldn't want you watching any of my children.

Your whole quoted statement scares me. Sorry.

Anonymous said...

I just can't understand why they couldn't wait until next year, their 10th wedding anniversary, to re-new their vows. Sounds like someone was overly anxious to get a Hawaii vacation - OR - maybe they see the handwriting on the wall???

my9cats said...

For me, watching this trainwreck ended with "Wild Horses". To deny Jon and family the sight of a beautiful sunset with her stupid comment was the last straw. What made it worse was Jon's not putting her in her place and saying, "we're staying, you can either sit in the truck or go back with the crew." Kate is an absolute jerk.

Anonymous said...

When we were shown a clip of the performance, there was an actor with long brown "Jesus" hair, wearing a long robe, commanding someone to do something. I certainly got the impression that that was supposed to be Jesus, misplaced as he certainly would have been in the Old Testament.

I saw the show in person....It is supposed to be God

Anonymous said...

Maybe the "Jesus" character you are all referring to is actually supposed to be "God". And really, is it such a stretch to anyway being that Christians believe Jesus is God and vice versa? I digress. I was really PO'd watching this show again last night and seeing Kon's obnoxious behavior. Yes, everything is wonderful in Gosselinland as long as you're wearing rose-colored glasses Kon!!! Kids don't like traveling all the time. Kids like stability and being at home. Stop talking for your kids and saying how excited they are about everything you do. If they really were excited and love it, their actions and their own words will show us. We don't need your bullshit narration. So much of their behavior was so put on for the camera, the "how can I help you?", her overblown stupid reaction, and "oh, let me think I was caught off guard". She had just finished berating the "gross boys" AGAIN!!! Instead of your fake reaction Kate, you could have said in a normal reaction, "oh thank you so much for asking honey, but I can't think of anything right now." No, she was so busy standing there that she needed Jon to juice them up and put them in the dungeon/basement. **rolling my eyes**. But everything has to be overdone by them anyway. And the kiss on the couch...Kate was oblivious to his advance and left him hanging. Talk about an awkward moment. She was admiring her adoration from the ball-less wonder before realizing he was attempting to show some affection. I really hate this show but I watch anyway. Shame on me.

biglil said...

All of the damage control in this episode reeks of desperation. I think the "Lazy & Greedy + 8" show is coming to a screeching halt (hopefully). Bye-bye, Gosselins...hello Duggars. Let's see how fast Figure 8 can corrupt the oh-so-pious Duggars by throwing money and freebies at them.

Ruthe said...

Paula S said...
"How many telephone books was Jon sitting on in the couch scenes?"

Jon was sittiing on his wallet.

9/16/2008 4:22 AM
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MY NOMINATION FOR COMMENT OF THE WEEK

Anonymous said...

"Also, maybe that's why she didn't help carry out the kids from the van."


hahahaha. WHEN has Kate EVER helped carry the kids out of the van???

hahahaha. That's a good one.

Anonymous said...

"The tups are growing up folks, the cuteness is wearing off and the show is finally on its way out!"

THAT is the only bright spot, silver lining, end of the rainbow to all this nonsense. The show is on it's way out. These kids are not as marketable and cute as they were one year ago. And all I can say is thank goodness. Hopefully some normalcy can be saved for these 6 little ones. Them being no longer cute is to their blessing in this instance.

Anonymous said...

When we were shown a clip of the performance, there was an actor with long brown "Jesus" hair, wearing a long robe, commanding someone to do something. I certainly got the impression that that was supposed to be Jesus, misplaced as he certainly would have been in the Old Testament.

I saw the show in person....It is supposed to be God

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How weird, I thought it was Jesus too? I've never known "God" to be an actual being in a play before? Usually you just hear a voice? That man with the long brown hair and white robe sure resembled Jesus though! Weird.

Anonymous said...

Just another attempt at lousy damage control - they should fire the PR firm but then again look what they have to work with?? The kids are anxious, nervous wrecks prone to more outbursts, bathroom trips (a clear indication) and tantrums than any 4 year old I have ever parented and/or cared for and KON, they are a joke and trust me folks they read these blogs. I can only imagine when the bolt of lightening hits TLC (or KON does with a lawsuit for their screwed up their kids) and they cancel this trainwreck. Those kids will be subjected to god knows what without any intevention except their moronic, emasculated father and their mommie dearest - they will not go to school either - they can't make any money for their pimp parents there - she will home school and that in itself in scary, dumb and dumber - They have no role models, manners, individuality or friends - can't wait for Joel's tell all or one from a member of TLC's crew, confidentiality agreement or not. I have removed TLC from my cable package, I would rather watch CPAN debating the scientific research behind the study of the pickel than KON's sick parenting and kid manipulation any day

Just Me said...

Ok, everyone complains about how bad kate is, how mean, uncaring ect. So when shes trying to correct it, everyone bitches and says damage control.
I keep hearing that its not a reality show anymore because of all the damage control/acting they're doing but when she was being her shrill self, her REAL self everyone complained.... doesnt make sense, they're damned if they do and damned if they dont.

I thought this epi was boring too except for the girls on the couch, so cute! I also think they should stop dressing the kids alike ESPECIALLY dont make your 8yos dress like your 4yos. I think its time they allow them to be individulals!
I only think they animals were scanned for inventory purposes and that Collin(as much as I love him)as well as all the kids are too old for chewys/lovies but its painfully clear that its their only comfort.
And Kates overreacting to Jons asking what he can help with.... PUUULEEESE.... as if Jon doesnt do everything anyway!

Anonymous said...

I can't imagine putting a child the age Alexis was and is in the basement to sleep by herself. We have a basement and I would never have done that to my kids. What if the house caught fire, would they get the other 7 and forget her. It could very likely happen. I also don't see why Mady and Cara couldn't do their homework in their bedroom since no one is allowed in there. Their homework room could be turned into a bedroom for Alexis if she is not allowed in the other girls room. I agree I wouldn't call it her room if she is not allowed to sleep in it. I know on one episode when Leah and Hannah were suppose to be taking a nape they were jumping up and down on the beds, what would Alexis have done to disturb that?

Maybe bunk beds are made differently now but why can't the top bunk be put on the floor so the kids can sleep in it instead of having to sleep ont the pull out bed. They seem to have plenty of room in their bedrooms to do this, after all they had 6 baby beds in the room at one time.

I didn't get to watch the show last night so I am getting caught up reading your posts. Thanks.

Paula S said...

Kate trying to be nice is painful to watch. To me she comes across as phony. It just isn't in her character to be nice. Maybe she will actually be able to convincingly pull off the act, but she has a long way to go.

Barbara in VA said...

I also did not watch the show, but I am reading what you guys wrote. As a dog lover, an animal lover, this family certainly does not need an animal in their family. If this is the way Kate takes care of her own kids I can only imagine how little a dog would mean to her.

Sounds like once again either Kon or F8 or both tried to undo what they've had on their show lo these many episodes. Poor Collin. Please, Kon, stop accepting free things, stop accepting free services and trips. Let your children be children and not your meal tickets (high priced meal at that). Let the kids spend the day playing on the swingset and in the sprinkler and have gum and lollipops and popsicles dripping down their shirts. Let them get sticky and dirty and don't have it filmed for your benefit. It washes off. What does not wash off is the imprint you are leaving on the children you would supposedly do anything for. What doesn't wash off is the impression of greediness you are leaving on the viewers. You'll never ever be able to undo what you've done there. But try, for your kids' sakes, to stop this show now.

PullTheGosselinPlug said...

JimS -
For what it is worth -
Your take on the Sight and Sound show is dead on.
I have been there and found it more like a lavish Vegas show.
In the show I saw, they actually lowered Jesus from the ceiling and he was wearing something that appeared to be an Elvis jumpsuit (no lie!) The lobbies are completey mirrored and golden.
I really felt like I was in a Casino and the message they are trying to send to the people they are hoping to send it to is in direct contradiction to how opulent the show is and how costly it is to keep the place running, as evidenced by the high ticket prices.
I am a devout practicing Christian and I would never go back there - I felt smarmy spending my money on that show - the one I saw was Daniel.

Anonymous said...

As a dog lover, an animal lover, this family certainly does not need an animal in their family. If this is the way Kate takes care of her own kids I can only imagine how little a dog would mean to her.

The possibility that this family might get a dog scares the bejeezus out of me. That poor, poor animal. I wouldn't adopt an animal into that household for a million dollars, but I doubt J&K would ever go the adoption route (not least because of likelihood they'd be turned down)--they'll probably buy a dog from a breeder or puppy mill, and that's that.

Kate already "gave away" her two cats when the twins came. What makes her think she's equipped to handle a dog now that there's *8* children??? Doesn't Jon have enough work as it is?

kelly said...

I was watching this episode this morning and did notice the apparent damage control at the end. One thing i did notice was how kate treats mady and that is probably why is so difficult. Mady was showing kate some card she made for kate and she couldnt even take the time to really look at. Maybe if kate took 5 seconds to really look at it and maybe give her a hug, mady's attitude may change.

Jim S said...

Thanks for that, pullthegosselinplug. I don't begrudge them their faith in the least (although the overall tone last night made it feel like TLC stood for Ten Little Christians), but that place plus the staging was just so over the top it was verging on obnoxious. Broadway musicals have more subtlety.

I did find it humorous that Mady picked a skunk stuffed animals since she's often the one most accused of making a stink.

Anonymous said...

Cyborg Kate & Liar, Liar Pants on Fire : LOL !!!!!

Also, on another note, I have written to the following sponsors and have not received a response. I am hoping it is because they have been overwhelmed with negative emails ??

- VTech
- Morristown Memorial
- Procter & Gamble
- The grains woman (can't remember her name)
- Gymboree
- Gap
- GH Mag

I did receive a response from the Grand Wailea, which I posted , but it was all marketing BS.....

Just wondering if anyone has received some good feedback from writing a sponsor?

Sharla said...

Maybe bunk beds are made differently now but why can't the top bunk be put on the floor so the kids can sleep in it instead of having to sleep ont the pull out bed. They seem to have plenty of room in their bedrooms to do this, after all they had 6 baby beds in the room at one time.

That has always baffled me especially as in the boys' room there is a mattress on the floor. How much more room would it take up to put the mattress on a bed? Maybe four inches? It would look so much nicer and be better IMO for all the boys to be in beds.

It should go without saying that I think they should do the same for the three little girls also.

FIONA said...

sis said...
The guide, Kristin, was hugged, thanked, appreciated...whoa. Must have been Cyborg Kate. I keep reminding myself that they don't read the blogs.


And Jon clearly says we "bought the stuffed animals", but Kristin clearly states that they were allowed to choose whatever they liked (Kate said this too. Jon agreed it would depend on behavior.) Totally irrelevant as far as their exploitation goes, but it just this inconsistency in some small silly things that makes me question everything.

9/15/2008 6:27 PM
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Well, aren't we GLAD she was hugged and thanked???? Geez!

I did notice Mady really hugged her! I think Mady is affectionate and will get a hug whenever she can.

And maybe the stuffies were offered for free and maybe Jon did pay for them.

I will call it when I see it...but I won't be cynical just because.

Also, I like this show. The producer is responding to what we want to see.

I thought the show they saw looked great!!! And it looked like the kids loved it!

So Kate is looseing up on her rules...that is a good thing, right??? Call is DC if you choose...everything Kate does better is considered that.

No, it does not change explotation for the kids, but maybe the Mommy is learning SOMETHING! That would be a good thing!

I thought Jon asking Kate if she needed something at the end...(the part some of you thought she was was announcing some big news) was just a sign of a whipped Jon, and I do think it was for our benefit! That how thing made my skin crawl. At that moment it did not appear that Kate was losing it!

Gosh, I hope Kate is learning how to treat Jon better too!

Kids were cute.

Wonder what Alexis is nervous about....and she likes sleeping in the basement????

Toni said...

"I can't imagine putting a child the age Alexis was and is in the basement to sleep by herself. We have a basement and I would never have done that to my kids. What if the house caught fire, would they get the other 7 and forget her. "


Not all houses are bought with the intention of having to use the basement for a bedroom? In our case, we have a big family. For now, our 2 teens sleep in the basement. Granted it's furnished like the Gosselin's basement is. Half of it is their room, half of it is a playroom/computer/TV room. It's a temporary situation for us, until we move in a bigger place.

For us, we have no other option right now and our teens don't seem to mind at all. In fact they have friends who as well sleep in their family's basement. It's not that unheard of. I wouldn't have put them down there when they were 4 years old of course, but our basement does have smoke alarms and water sprinklers.

Jon and Kate can use that spare bedroom that they use for the "homework room" for Alexis, IMO. I think putting a bed in there would be no big deal, since from what we've seen, it doesn't get used that much anyways.

In closing all I will say is this - I hope they have a top of the line alarm system wired throughout that whole house, basement included. Putting out there for millions of viewers to watch each week that your four year old daughter sleeps alone in the family basement every night really is a red flag and stupid on TLC, Figure 8 and especially Jon & Kate's part.

mlou said...

I am sooo sick of KON. I've been reading online about Hurricane Ike evacuees. They have to wait in line for hours just to get 1 sandwich a day. I'm sure they could care less if it is organic or not.

There are people with children who are young and have special needs. They have to worry about keeping them out of the sun and away from floating coffins.

Kon, get a d@mn clue. The world does not revolve around you. Shame on anyone who would rather give these people freebies instead of helping those so desperately in need.

Anonymous said...

The possibility that this family might get a dog scares the bejeezus out of me. That poor, poor animal. I wouldn't adopt an animal into that household for a million dollars, but I doubt J&K would ever go the adoption route (not least because of likelihood they'd be turned down)--they'll probably buy a dog from a breeder or puppy mill, and that's that.

No, they will undoubtedly be "blessed" with a purebred Standard Poodle puppy, as a "love offering" from some local or chain pet store that does get their stock from puppy mills. There is no way a reputable breeder would ever sell or give one of their puppies to a household with six 4 yr olds. The only dog that should humanely be placed into that environment would be an adult dog, large and sturdy, of a breed or mix known for even temperament. The dog should be fully house-trained and have a reliable recall and several key behaviors like sit, down, wait, and down-stay. In other words, the dog needs to already be trained to behave much better than any of the Gosselins.

moi said...

PullTheGosselinPlug said, "JimS -
For what it is worth -
Your take on the Sight and Sound show is dead on.
I have been there and found it more like a lavish Vegas show.
In the show I saw, they actually lowered Jesus from the ceiling and he was wearing something that appeared to be an Elvis jumpsuit (no lie!)


There! Someone who actually went to the show even thought it was Jesus! I rest my case. :)

AliceAnonymous said...

If I had eight little kids, I'd do something slightly more practical like taking them on outings in smaller groups, say three or two at a time. Taking them to different places with one of the parents and leaving others at home would cut the stress in half - at least it would for me - and I'm sure the children would appreciate it. Watching them being roped off in a special section in the Sight and Sound theater gave me the impression that Kate was exhibiting her brood once again in yet another setting, under the premise that she didn't want to bother other people (wipe your mouth Kate, there's still a tiny bit of BS around your lips). The show where they got the kids to hang on to some rings and march them to the parade made me nauseous. Kate was glowing with all the attention she was getting as the little ones filed past the crowd.

And I agree the show is losing its momentum and will peter out sooner than they think. Then Kate will have to find another way to keep the attention focused on herself. Maybe TLC can line her up as hostess for a "Hot Spas with Kate Gosselin" show or something.

Tracey said...

I don't have a problem with Alexis sleeping in the basement. Why? Because she is as close (or even closer) to Jon and Kate's room than the kids sleeping upstairs. If she were to get scared, she would just have to run up a flight of stairs. I am sure they have nightlights.

My oldest child (who is 5)fell asleep on the couch one night and we let him sleep there and when he woke up the next morning--he thought it was the coolest thing. Some nights, I hear him sneaking down to the couch. I pick my battles and as long as he gets enough sleep, I am not too worried about it.

Anonymous said...

"I also did not watch the show, but I am reading what you guys wrote. As a dog lover, an animal lover, this family certainly does not need an animal in their family."

I agree. And if they do get a dog, why a Poodle (hopefully not a Toy Poodle)? The kids would make the poor thing neurotic, if it survived at all. Since the kids are so rough with stuff (like J&K have mentioned on the show) then get them a big tough dog like a New Foundlander or a Mastiff. Something they can't beat up.

ettie said...

I thought Kate seemed much more tolerable in this episode. She's a good actress, that Katie Irene!

Why couldn't the parents have had each child chose a stuffed animal to put in the Toys For Tots drop at Christmas time or something like that?
Kate herself said she didn't want anymore stuffed animals in the house and this would have been a great "teachable moment". Oh well, the ship has sailed, it's not turning back now.

FIONA said...

kelly said...
I was watching this episode this morning and did notice the apparent damage control at the end. One thing i did notice was how kate treats mady and that is probably why is so difficult. Mady was showing kate some card she made for kate and she couldnt even take the time to really look at. Maybe if kate took 5 seconds to really look at it and maybe give her a hug, mady's attitude may change.

9/16/2008 9:56 AM
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Kelly,
I saw that too! That just broke my heart! I don't know of any Mom who wouldn't stop everything and make a fuss over a card their child made. Sad, huh?

Anonymous said...

Wow, had I not seen Cupcakegate, Joelgate, Gumgate or the other various -gates I would think anyone dissing the G's was crazy. Just goes to show that either Kate is toning down her attitude or someone at Figure 8/TLC is learning the benefits of positive editing. Even though it came off as a 'nice' episode and they attempted to answer the critics they never ever read they still glossed over the biggest issue - the constant freebies.

Why not just admit the show itself is a commercial for whatever event they chose for the day? Then critics can't "bash" them for accepting freebies because they will no longer be freebies but part of their real lif.. uh, work.

With regards to some of the other comments on here there's two things I'd like to point out. The first is the way the tups speak - I do know kids older than 4 who have the same speech issues. It has more to do with learning from their siblings & peers than parental neglect. Think about how we as adults pick up new words - either from sounding them out how we think they are pronounced or by picking up on how someone else pronounces a word. I have a neighbour who butchers a local street name because they chose their own pronounciation instead of the local usage. Same goes with kids, they pick a version and stick with it until they choose to correct it.

The other thing was what Jon & Kate had to say regarding Alexis "choosing" to sleep in the basement. I can see her choosing once it becomes her norm but that doesn't explain why they put her with Jenny while on vacation. Or why they chose to ignore why they initially put her down there. Or that in a recent episode they mentioned that Hannah & Leah now had the habit of waking up in the night and joining them in bed - if Alexis was removed for waking them up yet they still wake up, was it really Alexis's fault to begin with?

Anonymous said...

Oh my gosh, I am so glad I found this blog!!! I was starting to feel like something was wrong with me for not liking J&K+8!! I watch it b/c I have triplets plus one, and thought it was such a great idea to have a show about raising multiples. I foolishly thought there may some helpful tips on how to cope...haha!!!! But the more and more I saw this family getting sooooo much stuff, the more and more crazy it made me. And Kate just does not seem to like her children at all. All she does is shriek at Jon and the kids and complain about being tired...what the heck does she do to be tired????? I have triplets and a special needs son, and have no help, plus hubby works 2 jobs and I work part-time, just to make ends meet. Why does she complain so? Oh, I don't like that woman at all. Can't wait to read the rest!!!

former fan quinn said...

Anon said, "Anyway, I did catch the repeat of Utah, and what struck me the most as I half listened was Kate and Jon's explanation of the backpacks with the little kids names on them...how they cover them with tape for security? Well, duh, that's a great idea when walking any child through a public place, but they act like they thought of it and it's so brilliant. But the biggest thing is when Kate explains "so nobody can call their names, unless someone already knows their names..." and as she says this it's like she realizes "oh crap, a lot of people know my kids names because I have them on a nationally known show" It was just such a hypocritical, contradicting moment for me...I mean, come on!! You are putting tape on the bags to PROTECT your children from predators, yet, you expose them to such a degree that any obsessed person could call out to them, because not only do people watching the show know their NAMES, they know EVERY SINGLE little thing about them to use and abuse to get to the kids. I just find this so frightening and I don't know why this does not disturb these parents. I would be so scared for my kids. End the show and live a normal, safe life, please!"

OMG I totally agree with you. How silly to put tape over the kids' names when you have them on a reality show each week! Thousands if not millions know their names. Scary, scary, scary. I think twice about my child's photo being anywhere. I don't have a blog because I don't want just anyone looking at my family photos. I might check off the box for "no my child's photograph cannot be taken" when she enters school. You just never know nowadays.

Can you imagine how many creepy weirdos are obsessed with the kids on this show? There are so many predators out there. And they show the front of their house and vehicle all the time too? The craziness of it all is mind-boggling to me. Get your precious kids off tv Kon!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Anyone notice that there were 4 beds in the boys room? Does Jon sleep in there? Also, when they got home was Kate on the phone? I've noticed in other shows that she looks like she is on her cell when they're driving. Who is she always talking to?

Anonymous said...

"Also, when they got home was Kate on the phone? I've noticed in other shows that she looks like she is on her cell when they're driving. Who is she always talking to?"
____
If last night's episode was any indication, I'd say the damage control unit.

Anonymous said...

I've noticed her on her cell phone a lot lately too and wondered who she could be talking too! lol

Anonymous said...

I saw the Sight and Sound show, and I thought it was wonderful. I have never seen a show I didn't love there.

And I have to comment on something. Maybe I need to do my research but I'm assuming that the DWoP is not in favor of the new Duggar series, correct?

ThreeFarmers said...

For what it is worth -
Your take on the Sight and Sound show is dead on.
I have been there and found it more like a lavish Vegas show.


As I was watching the show last night, I kept thinking that the outside of the place looked like a casino. Not even a Vegas casino, more like an Atlantic City casino.

AmandaT said...

Last week I was sitting out Gustav at my dad's house and on Monday night we watched The Closer. I read here and then decided that I didn't think I'd be able to stomach watching the rerun. This week, back at home, I decided to start watching The Closer. While I used to watch TLC and Discovery Health all the time, I flip right by those channels now. Their birth shows and baby shows have been driving me nuts for a while anyway (why so much misinformation on the *learning* channel?).
I still read here, and of course am still not letting any sponsored items into my cart or my house.
I just can't stomach the way they treat their kids. They are teaching them to bottle feelings and placing adult expectations on small children. And I'm tired of the charade and the out-and-out lies. We know they read these blogs. It's obvious. GWoP now writes the storylines for their show. And who is actually buying those explanations? If the show is their life, why are they living for the critics on the internet? It's sad, and it's fake. Parents should have actual jobs, 4 year olds should not be the breadwinners for the family.

Whitney said...

I agree. And if they do get a dog, why a Poodle (hopefully not a Toy Poodle)? The kids would make the poor thing neurotic, if it survived at all. Since the kids are so rough with stuff (like J&K have mentioned on the show) then get them a big tough dog like a New Foundlander or a Mastiff. Something they can't beat up.


In response to your statement. Standard Poodles are pretty hardy dogs. Their original intent was as water dogs and as hunting dogs -much like labradors, golden retrievers, spaniels. They are intelligent and just as friendly as your Golden Retriever.

I'm not sure where the misconception of poodles came from and I don't intend to preach to the world but it should be known that they aren't dainty and mean.

On the other hand, I don't condone them buying or adopting a dog for so many little kids. Maybe at Mady and Cara's age they can handle it. I was 10 when my parents bought me my Golden and I had to do everything for him -except pay for vet bills (although I had to be there). I don't think that 4-year olds really can accept that responsibility. And if you're buying a pet for a child they need to accept some responsibility for it.

ThreeFarmers said...

Just wondering if anyone has received some good feedback from writing a sponsor?


I've gotten a few back. Proctor & Gamble, Sharpie (which was a little snotty), and TLC.

If you'd like copies, just sent me an email and I'll forward you copies of the ones I got.

sis said...

I said:

The guide, Kristin, was hugged, thanked, appreciated...whoa. Must have been Cyborg Kate. I keep reminding myself that they don't read the blogs.

Fiona said:

Well, aren't we GLAD she was hugged and thanked???? Geez!
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Fiona, I was being sarcastic. After all of the bad publicity surrounding Kate's treatment of helpers and people in general, this was a glaring case of damage control, IMO. And frankly, she is going to have to do a lot more of it, and be sincere in the process, before I believe she is learning anything. I DO believe she is learning how to salvage her horrible image with the help of her PR firm. I'm not quite buying her sincerity after being such a grouch and ingrate for the past three years. That's all I was saying. Well, that and the fact that I don't for a nanosecond believe that someone in their camp is not reading the negative blogs/press about them.

I've said before and I'll say it again. I DO NOT want these parents to fail, for 8 good reasons. But one show edited to highlight a less harsh side of Kate doesn't convince me. If it convinces you, it makes no difference to me. I am just stating my opinion on this blog. You disagree, I get that.

It's like putting lipstick on a pot-bellied pig.

ThreeFarmers said...

Can you imagine how many creepy weirdos are obsessed with the kids on this show? There are so many predators out there. And they show the front of their house and vehicle all the time too? The craziness of it all is mind-boggling to me. Get your precious kids off tv Kon!!!!!!!

I know. During the re-run of the Utah show, they showed a VERY long shot of Aaden standing on the steps in his underwear talking to Beth. I was sickened.

What I don't understand, is that these are professional camera people and editors. Why can't they just frame that shot differently or crop it differently in the editing process. Those shots DON'T HAVE TO BE SHOWN!

Anonymous said...

Quote: "It's obvious. GWoP now writes the storylines for their show. And who is actually buying those explanations? If the show is their life, why are they living for the critics on the internet?

J & K claim they do not read nor care about the critcisims and negative opinions of them or the show however, it is obvious that someone is doing alot of homework on the internet and making adjustments to the show (and their website) accordingly. If J & K are so trusting of their 'faithful fans' why are is TLC/Figure 8 and their PR firm going to such lengths to appease the critics? If the show is a true representation of their life, what is the explanation for all the damage control as of late? There is so much GWOP in the newer episodes, J & K should give credit where credit is due and include GWOP in the show credits.

Anonymous said...

Paula S. OUR life!!!

Anonymous said...

I have long since felt that Figure 8 is extremely aware of the pedophiles in the audience and throws them a few juicy scenes every episode. The potty scenes, the bath scenes, the long drawn out pool scenes, the changing scenes, the 30 second plumbers butt scene.

This outfit ( figure 8 films) is creepy. They want the widest viewing public possible. Including the regular moms, families, christian pro life advocates, and especially including their bread and butter, the pedophiles. They do nothing to protect these kids safety and everything to exploit them.

I want to know how the UNCENSORED Hannah pooped video got on youtube???? The one that got 20,000 hits in a very short period of time. Only a crew member or someone in production had access to that. If I were Jon and Kate and I would have ended the show then and there!!!! Instead these pervs are given weekly fodder and figure 8 always includes a suspect scene or two in every episode. To make the exploitation complete.

Anonymous said...

It is just outrageous that they think we will believe kate is so excited because Jon asked what he can do. Umm..she never stopped barking orders long enough for him to have to ask before. Maybe he should be the one excited over this--that she finally shut up! He does everything around the house already. Why does he need to do more? Now, turn the tables around and have her ask him what she can do and I would buy the excitement! The Alexis in the basement backpedaling--nice try. SO obviously thrown in due to numerous complaints they've read. Funny, I emailed their website about that very thing. I guess it shows they do read and try to respond defensively to every criticism about them. I really think she is trying to crush that little girl's spirit because she is so cute and Kate is jealous.

Anonymous said...

I was confused in this episode when they said Alexis sleeps in the basement "by choice". I thought she was down there because she wakes everyone else up too early. So which is it? I'm betting Alexis didn't CHOOSE to be down there... although, she may have, just for the sake of having her own space and privacy for a couple hours at night!

sugarjay said...

Kon is getting a dog? It's official. Jon is a glutton for freebies AND punishment.

I imagine Kate will have LOTS of things for Jon to do when he's on doggie duty. Like brushing the dog's hair 100 strokes a day as if the dog was Marsha Brady (JOOOONNNN. COUNT OUT LOUD SO I KNOW YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT.) and dressing the dog up in the same exact outfit the twins and 'tup girls are wearing.

I bet they make the dog wear tiny booties like the ones that camera guy has to wear whenever it wants to come inside.

Anonymous said...

One thing I've noticed in 'scriped' tv shows, is that when ratings are slipping then they add a new family member to spice it up. Usually its a new baby, but in the G's case a dog would work. They could get a TON of new material by adding a dog to the mix. That poor animal.

Also, one thing that struck me about this episode was how she was holding the boy's heads. They have hands to hold. The one part where she is yelling at them to stop walking and 'directs' them to the gift shop by grabbing one of the boy's heads made me so sick for those kids. It was WAAAAY too forceful.

Gwoppiegirl said...

Now that we know us Gwoppies are in theory writing the future episodes.....

What do you think will be covered/addressed next?
I suspect we will see more of the crew and shots and explanation of mikes and lights.

Georgia said...

Ruthe Said:
Ruthe said..".
"The production company should save a few dollars and keep the Gosselins at home for a change to make an episode about Mom and Dad disciplining the children from hitting and biting and crabbing and moaning. Some of their behavior is way out of bounds. If you have ONE child you nip that stuff in the bud, but eight??? Cripes, these kids are really going to be a pain in the arse when they are exposed to other children in a school setting.

The tups really are too old to be acting out the way they do and the twins seem to be adding to the bad habits"

What premise would the show have. if the children behaved. I wouldn't be surprised that that kind of behavior is encouraged to keep people watching. My child at four rarely, I mean rarely cried and screamed. I think they're a little spoiled or lack attention.
I don't watch the show anymore, but I love this blog.

Anonymous said...

I suspect that the discipline issues are magnified on filming days as J&K do not spank the kids on those days. J&K have said at speaking events that they discipline their kids with spankings, but on camera they only use timeout. I am sure the kids realize that they can "get away" with various behaviors on filming days. Smart kids.

Anonymous said...

"Just wondering if anyone has received some good feedback from writing a sponsor?"

Several months ago I received a coupon in the mail from Gymboree. It was specifically addressed to me announcing an upcoming bonanza of a sale. I contacted Gymboree customer relations dept informing them that I disgarded their coupon and the reasons why I refuse to support their brand and business. This was at least 2 1/2 months ago and I have yet to receive a response from Gymboree.

Momof2 said...

It horrible how she treats the boys now they are older, no respect, just like the way she treats Jon. Those kids are going to write a book about her and it will probably resemble "Mommy Dearest." She calls the boys "gross" all the time, and she means it. There is no loving, kidding around tone. I have called my little guy a little stinker, but its always in a loving and funny tone, he laughs too.

This is a woman who does not deserve these children. Horribile, horrible. Remember how she used to talk about the boys in a cute way when they were little, the professor, the engineer, etc., now its, "boys are just gross."

This is one thing out many things I don't like about her. I was a fan up until recently. Now, I cannot stand this woman. I will probably watch a few more episodes, want to see this million dollar house the got themselves, but looking forward to watching the Duggars and hopefully will phase out J&K.

Anonymous said...

I found it totally disgusting how they were practically "begging" for either a pig or a standard poodle. Can you imagine Kate with either? OMG I pray that some sympathetic breeder DOES NOT send them one of each.

Anonymous said...

Some have mentioned damage control by the Gs. Others have said the Gs are reading this website and others and adjusting their show, website accordingly. I was skeptical about this until I clicked over to sixgosselins.com and read the Devotional for this week:

Mady brought her Bible to me in the middle of a busy crazy moment and read the above verse to me! I was immediately blessed by these words from Isaiah! Again, what encouragement to know that God gives me the power I need when I feel weak and the strength to get through! God is so amazing! In addition, I was equally amazed when I stopped scurrying around the kitchen long enough to take in the amazing sight before me: My 7 year old was excited about what she was reading from God's word! And she cared enough to share it with me!!!!

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Now does anyone recall the Sight and Sound episode where Mady showed Kate a drawing and Kate did not look up from her kitchen work. I sense that the Gs want to let people know that they do take the time to pay attention to their children, especially Mady. I find it interesting that both anecdotes involve Mady.

Also, much has been made of the fact that there are few books in the Gs household. Perhaps, mentioning the Bible on the website will let people know that they are educating their children. Jon has said that the six have "destroyed a library of books."

The campout episode had the little ones playing a video game to "learn their letters." Many suggested that these parents should simply read to their children, rather than relying on a game.

People, this website is writing the script for the show, the website, and the Gosselins themselves! Next stop, get this show off the air and force the parents to reveal how much money they have deposited in each child's bank account/college account.

Ruthe said...

"Anonymous said...
Paula S. OUR life!!! "
Thanks - I'm glad someone else saw it too.

For anyone who hasn't been to the Sight and Sound theater ... I was treated to a show there a few years ago. It was called "Noah". I'll be completely honest here and say that I was not looking forward to it because I didn't know what to expect. Broadway meets the Bible???

Although not impressed with the outside of the place, I do have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the show itself, the story and the theatrics were AMAZING. If you have a chance to go, please do -- you'll love it.

As for the G's, I can't imagine Kate appreciating anything about the experience, with the exception of her brood made more obvious by being isolated from the rest of the audience.

Anonymous said...

I did not even get a response from Gymboree. That was one of the very few sponsors who did not immediately write back saying something like they were forwarding my comment on to...

The nerve to send you a coupon - seems like they didn't even bother to read what you wrote. Just "Send this one a coupon".

Anonymous said...

My child at four rarely, I mean rarely cried and screamed. I think they're a little spoiled or lack attention.
I don't watch the show anymore, but I love this blog."

If my 3 1/2 yr old screamed, cried like that, we would all wonder what the heck is going on. It just does not happen. A well cared for child of that age does not spend THAT much time crying and whining and screaming. Goes to show you that having huge volumes of children does nothing to contribute to the welfare of the kids--just the parents' wallets!

Anonymous said...

I will no longer by commenting on this board because it seems like they are adjusting the show to what people are writing here. Let's not give them anymore ideas and let the train wreck go full speed ahead.
Please write to the sponsors of the show and not on here. Another idea would be to make people log into this site.

K.C. said...

ettie said...
She's a good actress, that Katie Irene!

I'm assuming this is supposed to be a joke.

Moons in Leo said...

Jim S said...
Every man on stage had long hair and flowing robes, so I just assumed...besides, fig leaves and flesh colored body stockings on Adam & Eve probably wouldn't go over well with this crowd.

9/16/2008 7:39 AM

COMMENT OF THE WEEK!!!

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with the poster about appropriate/normal behavior for 3-4 year-old children. My 3 1/2 yo son says please/thank you/you're welcome/excuse me("skooz me") without me prompting him ( he is actually much better than my 10 year old, go figure!) Is he the perfect child? No. Am I the perfect parent? No. I have NEVER heard the kids ( and I think they are adorable and support them completely) say any of these , which most consider basic manners. I have also RARELY heard Kate say them - Jon is a bit better.

On another note, I finally received a response from one of my anti-sponsor emails:

"Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your concerns regardingour marketing efforts on the Jon & Kate Plus 8 television program. We aresorry to hear of your objections to this television program. We at VTech work very hard to develop products that are both fun andeducational for children and we also try our best to direct our marketingefforts through the appropriate channels to get the information about ourproducts to our customers. We are always happy to receive comments aboutour marketing campaigns from our customers. Your comments will beforwarded to our marketing team for review and assessment and will be takeninto consideration when developing any future marketing efforts. Again, thank you for taking the time to express your concerns. We makeevery effort to insure the educational value, effectiveness and quality ofour present and future products. Best Regards, Consumer CommunicationsVTECH ELECTRONICS NA, LLC"

Barbara in VA said...

Anon 11:01 AM: I got the very same response from Vtech. So at least they heard from 2 of us.

Anonymous said...

The Sight & Sound Theater shows are very moving and I'm sure the children were mesmerized. You don't have to be a Christian to enjoy the shows.

Anonymous said...

I have wrote letters to Gymboree, Gap, Paul Petersen, GH, VTech and TLC. And I signed a petition. I know these letters are going through and they are reading them. My husband is a CFO for a major furniture company. When people email, call or send letters, whether they're complaining about customer service or in praise of their company, feedback DOES get priority. Of course this is a furniture company, but I can't believe the companies that sponsor this show don't have the same standards. Your voices are being heard - keep on keeping on. I doubt your efforts are going unnoticed.

Anonymous said...

"Alexis saying she is "nervous""

I imagine she meant "excited". No hidden meaning there, IMO.
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I agree that Alexis' use of the word "nervous" is completely innocent and probably unrelated to her actually feeling nervous.

Sometimes kids just find a word they really like to use, and even if the context doesn't fit it, they like to say it. My nephew learned the word "evaporate" and now he likes to say things like "my hand is evaporating" or "the table evaporated". He also throws the word "actually" into almost every sentence. I think Alexis is doing something similar with "nervous".

While the comments Jon and Kate made at the end of the episode were clearly damage control, I'd rather they did damage control than continue to make new damages. The sincerity of the damage control is debatable, but it's a step in the right direction. Only about a thousand more steps to go.

SmartyQ said...

When I saw Katie's 'new' scripture lesson, two things struck me. One was her saying Cara and Mady were advanced readers, which, based on what I've seen, is not true. The second was that she has replaced 'awesome' with:

'God is so amazing! In addition, I was equally amazed when I stopped scurrying around the kitchen long enough to take in the amazing sight before me:'

Do I believe this really happened? Not for a moment.

Anonymous said...

Their website is in dire need of spellcheck.

Paula S said...

Kate trying to be gracious is painful to watch. Jon and Kate trying to convince their watchers is also painful. They just don't seem to be able to own it!

Justathought said...

I read this on the Topix site about someone offering to give Kate a dog.

If they get a dog, the moment that dog is "injured" or treated badly in anyway - the animal lovers will have the show pulled in a minute.

Sad to say - the children's welfare alone cannot do this - but animals are a different story. IMO

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice in the Road Trip to Disney episode that Kate allowed her kids to be driven to Aunt Jodie's house without car seats, or I think, enough seating in the van??? Who is looking out for these poor kids????

Anonymous said...

In response to Anonymous's post:

Their website is in dire need of spellcheck.

"They are doing the best we can!"

Anonymous said...

If they get a dog, the moment that dog is "injured" or treated badly in anyway - the animal lovers will have the show pulled in a minute.

Then maybe this will work out for all concerned. The G's get a dog; animal lovers express outrage over subsequent negligence and mistreatment; show gets pulled and SPCA seizes the dog and finds him/her suitable home.

It's a win-win.

Anonymous said...

Oh, please, whoever offered these parents a dog -- take it back! A dog deserves more than this. Kate will probably chain him/her in the yard or lock him/her in the garage or worse. And God forbid if the little thing gets sick, they will drag it out anyway just to get a camera shot of how much they love the dog. Please, if you love animals and if you love dogs, this family can't take care of their own children, don't give them yet another.

Anonymous said...

"If they get a dog, the moment that dog is "injured" or treated badly in anyway - the animal lovers will have the show pulled in a minute.

Sad to say - the children's welfare alone cannot do this - but animals are a different story. IMO"

Oh I totally agree. If the animal is shown being mistreated in any way, the PETA people will be all over it. Sad that in society the same kind of outrage can't be said for these kids and what is shown and done to them week after week.

FIONA said...

I agree that Alexis' use of the word "nervous" is completely innocent and probably unrelated to her actually feeling nervous.

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Kids do pick up words.....however, in this case, she may very well be using it correctly. Alexis is one of the tups who has been vomiting for 2 years. So something is wrong. And I am sure Kate uses that word in her everyday vernacular.

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