How can we miss them if they won't go away?

Reprinted with permission from scsun.

I have come to the conclusion that the defenders of J&K (and note that NO one who knows them personally appears to be among the 'defenders') have one reason for sticking their head in the sand and ignoring the raw, harsh reality of this reality family. I know the reason because I was once there, wondering how and why so many negative things were being said. ...continued

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Serena said...

HOW CAN WE MISS THEM IF THEY WON'T GO AWAY?

Reprinted with permission from scsun.


I have come to the conclusion that the defenders of J&K (and note that NO one who knows them personally appears to be among the 'defenders') have one reason for sticking their head in the sand and ignoring the raw, harsh reality of this reality family. I know the reason because I was once there, wondering how and why so many negative things were being said.

I remember thinking that Kate's statement, "it's society's obligation to support their kids", surely must have been some error in what someone heard, or taken out of context. I now understand that is truly what she was saying and meant every word of it. I even bought one of the $20 pics at a speaking event (I'm ashamed to admit), and put $20 in the LOVE OFFERING plate. My hard-earned $40 given to con artists!

Then I started catching them in lies on their show -- like they can't do the one-on-one days with the kids but just once a year because of the expense. I now know that they don't pay a dime for any event used for the program. Then there were other lies, and more lies, and I saw that I'd been duped. I started worrying about these children not being paid for their performances, and how they will feel to grow up and learn this. I could be wrong; if I am, J&K, please let us know. I really want those kids to have the money they've earned. Because without them no one would be interested in just watching J&K. Period. The kids are the show, period. Not you Jon, nor you Kate.

With all that said -- the reason the defenders jump on those who dare spread the truth? They are in fear that the show will be taken off the air, and the family (especially the kids) will be taken from them (as if the children belong to them) and take it as a personal loss.

I know, because I felt that way once. I didn't post any comments -- just lurked until I became aware of what J&K were pulling on the public. While I lurked and read on TWOP, I kept thinking, "Please go away -- please shut up -- or the show will be canceled!" I was very worried that those children were going to be taken from me. I wouldn't get to see them each week as I'd come to look forward to. That, my friends, is the reason the defenders are so vehement about the truth not getting out!

I will still miss them if the show goes away -- but I am old enough to look back and see all the problems and stigmas that child actors have had to face. Please listen to them, they have been there, they know. Many will say they lost their childhood, and had to become an adult too soon. On the J&K fan sites I noticed many (not all) are very young and just may not realize what's happening and how life evolves. Just remember, it is selfish to want to keep these kids on television. I admit it, I was selfish about it at one time too. But if the show stopped today, I would miss the kids, but I would feel better about their future.

Glenda said...

I enjoyed this very much. I agree with you on a key issue. When the kids get old enough they are going to want to know where their money is. I think of child actors who when they reach a certain age and want the money that they have earned then sue their parents because they have spent it all or mishandled it. What a sad day when the kids learn that there is no money for them because their parents spent it all.

Anonymous said...

I saw another reader mention this last week. Can you please post the entire article in the main post for those of us with RSS feeds?? Thanks!!!

kmihalik said...

When did Kate say it was society's obligation to take care of the kids? Mind you, I believe she said it...just never heard that.

Anonymous said...

kmihalik said: When did Kate say it was society's obligation to take care of the kids? Mind you, I believe she said it...just never heard that.

The state of PA provided J&K with a state-paid registered nurse for the first year of the tups lives. This was due to their premature birth, but when the tups were turning a year old, they were all healthy with no developmental problems. When the state decided to stop paying for the nurse, Kon appealed and alerted the media. Kate had decided long before this that having volunteers in her home was unacceptable and had run most of them off. In the article she said she refused to go back to volunteers again. She also said she depended on the nurse to alert her to diaper rashes and if any of the tups were running a fever. They gave interviews to their hometown Reading paper and the Harrisburg paper. Kate was quoted in both articles saying "because society allows fertility treatments that result in multiple births, society is obligated to provide for these kids." The you know what hit the fan and citizens across the entire state were furious with Kon. Kate then demanded a correction from both papers and claimed she was misquoted. Two different reporters misquoted her- yeah, right.

They lost their appeal. The state bascially said they didn't deny that J&K still wanted the nurse, if they wanted her they were welcome to pay for her themselves. But the state was not obligated to pay for a nurse to care for 6 healthy babies. Do a google search under Gosselins, nurse, and the articles should come up. This all went down in May 2005.

Anonymous said...

Can you please post the entire article in the main post for those of us with RSS feeds?? Yes, PLEASE! The site used to be easy to read through, but now that the posts are done this new way it's a pain to read what has been posted. Please put the entire article back on the main page.

Anonymous said...

Kate "depended on the nurse to alert he to diaper rashes." LOL! The nurse was a licensed vocational nurse. Kate is an RN. RNs have more training an knowledge than LVNs. So Kate would be better at "diagnosing " diaper rash than her LVN helper. I read that Kate has never changed a diaper. i guess that's why she wanted the LVN to continue to care for the children: the LVN was the official diaper changer. Also, I would never even give Jon and Kate a penny: Kate chose to take fertitily drugs, knowing multiples could result.

Anonymous said...

This post hits the nail on the head for me. I find Kate and Jon very distasteful, but I really love watching those kids. They are adorable and a lot of fun to watch. I am very concerned for their future though. Let's face it, having a camera watching your every move is not healthy. I also am worried about Maddy. She has some anger and jealousy problems. She is obviously a very bright child. I hope Kon get her help before she becomes even more angry and resentful.

Anonymous said...

their parents because they have spent it all or mishandled it. What a sad day when the kids learn that there is no money for them because their parents spent it all.
Where has it been written that the Gosselins have spent all the money made? Couldn't it be possible that a fund has been set up for the kids? Again, we do not know EVERYTHING about these people!

K.C. said...

Serena and Sharla--THANK YOU for printing this! Scsun--THANK YOU for sharing!

Anonymous said...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400462/posts

2005 article with the quote

Serena said...

Where has it been written that the Gosselins have spent all the money made? Couldn't it be possible that a fund has been set up for the kids?

It is possible, but that is not the point. The point is that there is no law whatsoever ensuring that J&K are putting aside part of their paychecks for future use by their children.

And frankly, given that these parents have shown horrific judgment when it comes to safeguarding their children, we have no reason to believe they are safeguarding their children's rightful income.

Lonnyswife said...

Anon said: Where has it been written that the Gosselins have spent all the money made? Couldn't it be possible that a fund has been set up for the kids? Again, we do not know EVERYTHING about these people!
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According to their previous website and many who have seen them at speaking engagements Kate and Jon themselves have said they don't have funds set up for their children. How much clearer than the Horse's Mouth is there?

Moons in Leo said...

Suggestion: Can some real or almost real news show (like Dateline or 20/20) invite Jon and Kate on and ask them these questions?

If they have nothing to hide, why wouldn't they accept?

Anonymous said...

Then why are they saying at their most recent speaking engagement that the $20 pictures are for their childrens college education? I think that there is too many opinions of this.

Lulubelle said...

Then I started catching them in lies on their show -- like they can't do the one-on-one days with the kids but just once a year because of the expense. I now know that they don't pay a dime for any event used for the program. Then there were other lies, and more lies, and I saw that I'd been duped.

In the context of the show, I think it makes more sense that Kon "lie" to us not because they truly believe that they can't afford their outings, but because of the efforts of them, their production company, and the network to make the audience relate to them more. One of the reasons a parent would watch the show is because they are looking for tips and Kate offers them all the time (good or bad) and then the show unfolds to show us if it works.

The family clearly can afford to buy organically or shop anywhere they want for clothes, but Kate acts like they put food before other expenses or that they must keep their clothes clean because clothes for six children is expensive to buy and time-consuming to keep clean rather than use once and throw away which they obviously could afford to do. Unfortunately they get so many freebies and sponsorships that they can offer little of practical advice to us because when a "normal" mother would throw an old t-shirt over her child and let them go hogwild, they have to keep the clothes visible and it ends up with Kate shrieking about whatever mess they might get into.

A regular family with even just three or four children probably would only be able to afford the costs and the help required to spend time at a special place with their child one-on-one about once a year. Thus they are simply acting like one of these families.

If we truly saw their reality rather than the act - that her organic food was supplied by a private chef or that everything they got was handed to them, they would loose the illusion of being a regular, every day family trying to survive and the point of the show would be gone. I don't know that it's malicious lying, but it's certainly not "reality." However, I think it's perpetuated by more than just Kate and Jon and I want to give them some credit for feeling obligated to sit in the chair and say one thing to the audience when in fact the opposite is true.

As far as the rest - the accepting or even demanding help that you don't need, collecting love offerings and not turning straight around and donating it to someone else who truly needs it - they clearly feel entitled. I don't know if they feel they need to keep up the charade constantly or that they truly believe they are needy, but for me it crosses the line. If I were being filmed constantly or even requested to do something for business purposes, then heck yes everything I do would be on the company dime. But if I had five figures rolling in my bank account even just once a month I would not be asking other people for money.

MidnightSun said...

I read that Kate has never changed a diaper.

Really? Never, ever changed one? She's done it many times on the show.

Then why are they saying at their most recent speaking engagement that the $20 pictures are for their childrens college education? I think that there is too many opinions of this.

Maybe they have one now...? On their updated site, it's no longer mentioned (at least not that I can find) that they do not have college funds set up for the kids. The old site said that.

With all the money they make, it would be irresponsible not to have college funds for them.

Anonymous said...

"According to their previous website and many who have seen them at speaking engagements Kate and Jon themselves have said they don't have funds set up for their children. How much clearer than the Horse's Mouth is there?"

The operative word in your statement is "previous." They obviously took it down, perhaps because they know that it is not true. And has anyone seen them speak recently, as in since they put the new website up. It is possible that they are no longer saying that. Right?

Anonymous said...

I wish that J&K would realize that their children's lives should not be considered work, and should not be filmed for the public's consumption or entertainment.

To all the lurkers on this site who are still supporting the exploitation: Please refer to the above contribution and ask ,"Is this me, am I afraid of losing the only contact that I have with he kids?" Secondly, I think we all should refer to a comment posted by lonnyswife(I think)re the criteria for boderline personality disorders, quite telling .and.spot.on. I might add obsessive compulsive personality disorder as well (very different from OCD). Lastly, if you can watch how K reacts/behaves and relate to her behavior I need to caution you to seek and accept help. Kate's behavior is not acceptable ever. She needs help, and someone close to her must present her with her limited options(I do not believe that she has the capabilities of sorting through her options on her own). The individual lives of this family will not change until Kate gets her anxieties under control. Show or no show her behavior has to be redirected to appropriate responses. The isolation this family is experiencing is 2 fold. Kate has pushed people away both verbally and by her actions. Pers. disorders are very isolating illnesses. Jon, please intervene. If kate had a broken arm, I'm sure you'd get her medical treatment.... Your kids desire to grow up in a stable environment, not a fishbowl, and you Jon, have the ability to provide that haven. It's just going to take some hard work. It's called being the parent. I'm sorry that your partner is not 100% on board, but that does not excuse you from your parental responsibility. Please make your family's mental, physical and emotional help your #1 priority. Thank you, Ann

Anonymous said...

scsun wrote: I really want those kids to have the money they've earned. Because without them no one would be interested in just watching J&K. Period. The kids are the show, period. Not you Jon, nor you Kate.

I have to disagree with you there, scsun. I would watch the show with just Jon and Kate. They amuse me. All kids are cute, I could turn off the TV and enjoy a cute kid right here, but, where in the world am I going to find people to make fun of like J and K?? They could take the kids off the show, I think it would be more fun.

DirtyDisher

Barbara in VA said...

Dirtydisher -- well, you must admit you'd be very much on your own. So sad.

Anonymous said...

Well it is sad. But true. Although there wouldn't be a show without the kids, people tune in to listen to Kate habitually beak on Jon. For the fun of it I turned off the volume and just watched a couple of back to back episodes the other night. It was like watching the old 16mm home movies of someone else's vacation. I think I nodded off once or twice because it was so boring. Yes, the kids are cute, Mady has issues and we've seen the world through the Gosselin's eyes, but watching a family of 10 burn marshmallows in their backyard or visit the zoo just isn't that entertaining anymore. It's Jon and Kate's show and they're making the most of it while the audience is still there.
That's even sadder.

(Not dirtydisher)

Chris said...

IMHO it is time for the show to end. The original premise was to show the challenges of raising 2 sets of multiples. The show had deteriorated to a "trip of the week" sort of thing. The tups have reportedly started pre-k, so they should be allowed to go off and learn to interact with their peers. A yearly update on how the kids are progressing is adequate.

Anonymous said...

Barbara in Va, I'll have to disagree with you and agree with DirtyDisher. Most people on here want the kids off the tv for good. And who are we to begrudge the Gosselin parents a career in media/entertainment? Isn't the end goal still the same? I personally don't like them and wouldn't watch a show just about them, but hell I love yelling at the tv at them. If J&K don't want 9-5 regular jobs and want to be stars, so what? They want to write books and have their own silly series that only features them - I say good for them. At least they're working!! Maybe it'll stop them from all their speaking engagements and collecting money from those who really don't have money to give. As long as the kids aren't involved anymore, I'm sure they've enough of a fanbase to keep them in the spotlight. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but who are we to say what type of job they should be doing other than being the best parents they can for those kids.

julie said...

So Kate needed a nurse to alert her to any diaper rash? How stupid does she think people are? It's not hard to recognize diaper rash...I bet those "nasty" volunteers of hers could have alerted her to that for free...although I guess she was still getting that for free since it wasn't her dime paying for the nurse.

Wait a minute, I suppose if SHE was changing the diapers (of the kids that society enabled her to have when they held the shotgun to her head and said "Here...take all these embryos and let us put them in your uterus and we'll see how many stick and then you'll be able to get a free ride for many years because we enabled you to do this therefore it is our responsibility to feed and clothe them and make sure they are taken care of") then I guess she would know herself when they had a diaper rash.

Kind of funny how she gets to use the term mother when really, all she has done that is "mother-like" is give birth. Everything she expects other people to do and pay for is what moms (and dads) are supposed to do. You want a kid (or kids) you take care of them, you do things for them, and guess what Kate? You work to provide for them!!!!

Considering that yesterday was the 9/11 anniversary, it made me sad to think of how many kids lost a parent, whose remaining parent is struggling to provide for them. It really put it into perspective for me, and made me ashamed that I even started watching this show. Jon and Kate, I think your free ride is over...there are many, many, MANY more people in this world who need a hand than you two.

Sorry for the rambling...I guess it's just making me mad today! Well, I'm off to wipe my child's nose because they have a cold and I don't have a free nurse here to do it for me...

Barbara in VA said...

Maybe I am just plain ole' out of touch with middle America, but I simply can not imagine anyone being entertained by the Jon & Kate show. Wouldn't you get tired of his hangdog expression? Wouldn't you get tired of her belittling him and then sorta winking at her producer? Guess I'm just harder to entertain than most. Con artists like them, no, can't imagine wasting my time.

Mike said...

kmihalik said...
When did Kate say it was society's obligation to take care of the kids? Mind you, I believe she said it...just never heard that.


This is a reprint of that news article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400462/posts

Ilovemykids said...

IMHO it is time for the show to end. The original premise was to show the challenges of raising 2 sets of multiples. The show had deteriorated to a "trip of the week" sort of thing. The tups have reportedly started pre-k, so they should be allowed to go off and learn to interact with their peers. A yearly update on how the kids are progressing is adequate.

Chris, I couldn't agree more. I think we can agree that yearly specials on how these wonderful children are doing would be appropriate.

Anonymous said...

Here is the article from the Reading Eagle written by a reporter who attended the Nursegate hearing.
I realize this is repetitive to those of us who are familiar with the way Jon & Kate work the system, but if it gets a Kon worshipper to see what they're really made of.... it's worth it. This article contains Kate's infamous "It's me with eight children and it's not fair!" quote. Also note that the nurse could stay while the appeals were ongoing, which leads me to think PA had to keep paying for her until all appeals were exhausted. Clever thinking, Kon! What is most appalling about this is that according to Julie, Kon had inheritance money in the bank and they could have paid Ms. Krall themselves. From Julie's blog:

"We found out (by their own admission) that all along, they had a rather large sum of money in their savings account. Let's just say it was more than I made in a year working full time when I came out of nursing school. They had been giving everyone this story of being financially destitute, when all along, a very wealthy family member was supporting them, and they were sitting on a large sum of money. When they were questioned, their response was along the lines that they shouldn't have to use their own money to support their family. It was society's obligation. "We have 8 kids!!"



State asked to extend care for sextuplets

May 19, 2005
By Erin Negley
Reading Eagle

Kate I. Gosselin says she would be unable to tend to the needs of the six 1-year-olds and their two 4-year-old sisters without the continued help of a nurse.

Kate I. Gosselin pleaded Thursday for the state Department of Public Welfare to maintain funding for a nurse who helps care for her 1-year-old sextuplets.
Gosselin of Wyomissing fears for the health of her family, which also includes 4-year-old twin daughters, if Medicaid cuts off payments for licensed practical nurse Angie S. Krall.

“She is my other set of medical eyes and ears,” Gosselin told Lisa Neeper, an administrative law judge, during a 90-minute hearing at the State Office Building in Reading.

The hearing was held after Gosselin and her husband, Jonathan K., appealed the Welfare Department's decision to end funding for the nurse.

The state wants to replace Krall with a home-health aide who would help care for the children part time for one month. The Gosselins then would be on their own.

Neeper said she would rule on the appeal by late July.

Kate Gosselin, who attended the hearing with her eight children and Krall, argued the family's case, while a medical consultant and caseworker appeared for the state.

The Welfare Department would not release names of the consultant or caseworker. The Reading Eagle was allowed to attend the hearing only because the Gosselins gave their approval.

Kate Gosselin is a registered nurse. But she said she's too busy caring for the sextuplets and twins and running a household to spend enough time with each child to spot all of their individual needs.

Jonathan Gosselin works in Harrisburg and is gone 12 hours a day.

Kate Gosselin wiped tears while saying that Krall has noticed diaper rashes, fevers and even pneumonia in the children.

If the switch to a home-health aide is made, Kate Gosselin fears she would need a long time to find the right worker.

In the meantime, she said, “It's me with eight children, which is not fair.”

Because the sextuplets were born about nine weeks early, Medicaid paid for Krall to spend 30 hours a week at the Gosselins' Wyomissing home.

The funding period ended April 30, but Krall will continue to assist the family until Neeper rules on the appeal.

The amount Medicaid has paid was unavailable, but Kate Gosselin has said it would cost about $25,000 to pay for Krall's services for another year.

The state's medical consultant testified that Krall bathes and feeds the infants, changes diapers and cleans their surroundings. A daily vitamin is the only medicine the infants take.

“I could find no medical need to have a skilled nurse in the house,” he said. “What the Gosselins need is someone to stay with mom and dad.”

While two of the sextuplets, Collin and Alexis, receive physical therapy through Easter Seals, the four other babies are progressing normally, the consultant said.

“My heart goes out to the Gosselins because I'm a father of three, but the medical necessity is lacking here,” he said. “What is needed are child-care workers.”

If the Gosselins don't agree with Neeper's ruling, they could appeal to Commonwealth Court or to the Department of Public Welfare secretary, said Thomas E. Cheffins, department director for the bureau of hearings and appeals.

beachluvin said...

There may be funds set up for the kids but Jon and Kate are spending some of their children's income NOW. They are spending it to pay their mortgage and other bills since there is no other visible means of income from these two besides advertising dollars all stemming from the fact that they have a set of sextuplets. Really, what it boils down to is the kids will watch the reruns when they are older and realize what scam artists their parents were and there will be plenty of tell of all books.

And then the "True Hollywood Story: Jon and Kate Plus 8" learn how the Gosselin's Children's act changed the laws governing children in Reality TV is filmed for the better.

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm sure they can afford $25,000/yr. for help now. In fact, what is that - half of what they supposedly make for one episode?? That sounds like a bargain in light of the fact that it appears the nurse was doing most of the work anyway!

Anonymous said...

If they had money and were being supported by a wealthy family member, what were they doing on welfare in the first place? Might they have been defrauding the State? Maybe that's why Kate wanted to retract her statements. What a couple of leeches. I noticed on the episode about how Jon and Kate met, Jon said he was [in his own words] "doing nothing with himself... no career, I worked at a ski slope, just got back from backpacking across Europe. I didn't have any goals, didn't want to get married, didn't want to have kids, wasn't even thinking about that stuff. Just bumming around doin' whatever I wanted to do." Kate knew she was marrying a deadbeat and they went ahead and had a litter of kids anyway. The whole story is so trashy and still they profit (as in $$$) from it. My God, do they hold nothing sacred?

Linda said...

Rather than a yearly update they could have a yearly telethon! Completed with giant tote board that has, instead of dollar amounts, the vacation, household items, clothing, spa treatments...or whatever they need for the next year!

Anonymous said...

Awwww she got a signed picture of the Goss as a thank you gift for 2 weeks or hard work!
Wow what a generous gift......

http://www.shelbystar.com/news/jessica_33004___article.html/jon_kate.html

FIONA said...

I am personally not in favor of ANY updates! The kids need to be able to put this behind them.

I think it would be very detrimental to Mady and Care, especially.

Let them be forgotten....they have a difficult enough road ahead.

Barbara in VA said...

I think Dateline would be a very good venue for an interview with these two con-parents. Unfortunately now they have PR help (such that it seems to be) and surely they know that Dateline would bring out the truth. They don't want that or the pity gravy train ends for everyone.

Anonymous said...

Mother of 39 kids turns down opportunity for reality tv.
http://www.thebodiebunch.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

Linda said...
Rather than a yearly update they could have a yearly telethon!
__________________________
Don't you mean KONATHON?? :)

Anonymous said...

WOW! That was SOME tip they gave to the swim instructor, huh? After giving those lessons and putting up with the filming, and all of the rest that goes with it....a GENUINE photo of the Gosselins that had "thanks" written across it! WHHHOOOOOO OO

Anonymous said...

"With all the money they make, it would be irresponsible not to have college funds for them."

In many cases money in a child's name can actually hurt them at college time. It can make them unable to get student loans, scholarships etc.

Let's remember they have eight kids, college for all of them would be astronomical!

ThreeFarmers said...

"With all the money they make, it would be irresponsible not to have college funds for them."

In many cases money in a child's name can actually hurt them at college time. It can make them unable to get student loans, scholarships etc.

Let's remember they have eight kids, college for all of them would be astronomical!


They may not be able to get government student loans, but there are plenty of places who write student loans that will have no problem funding a Gosselin education.

I think the chances of all of them going to college, not to mention, actually finishing college, astronomical.

Being raised with no work ethic and the expectation that there will be someone around to do everything for you leads to a sense of entitlement that makes achieving a high level of academic success quite difficult.

I'm going to take a guess and say that, in the years to come, there will be more than one Gosselin offspring trying to shop reality shows around to the networks in an effort to make a living.

Anonymous said...

"I'm going to take a guess and say that, in the years to come, there will be more than one Gosselin offspring trying to shop reality shows around to the networks in an effort to make a living."

I think it's much more likely that one or more of the kids (or even the kids together as a group), write a tell-all book about their extremely public upbringing.

We're already seeing Mady developing a distaste for the camera, and once the tups get a little higher in school, I imagine something similar will happen to them. It seems so normal to them now (because they know no different), but when their classmates tease them about stuff they've said and done on the show, that rosy view will change awfully quickly.

No kid or even adult enjoys when their parents tell a story about something stupid or embarassing they did as a child. Now imagine how the kids are going to feel knowing that those stupid or embarassing things they did can be seen on video in syndication for years and years to come.

I think most of the kids will shy away from reality TV offers. They'll know by that point the price they paid for having all their private moments broadcast around the world. Though maybe one or two of them will be tempted by the easy money...

Anonymous said...

"With all the money they make, it would be irresponsible not to have college funds for them."

The fact that they have thrust themselves into the limelight- hands out- since before these babies were born (and won't go away) is irresponsible as well. Heck, the fact that they went ahead with MORE fertility treatments after having healthy twin girls and spotty employment records is all the proof one needs to know that the word 'responsibility' is not in Jon & Kate's vocabulary.

In my opinion, all the "love offerings" and money from the autographed photos probably went right into Kon's bank account. I think all the 'no college fund' talk was to get the word out there so hopefully a college would come foward with full scholarships for the twins & tups. That's what Kon does best, right? Keep mentioning what they want over & over & over & over again until someone gives in. Thankfully, I don't think any colleges will take the bait. Minimal investigation will show that Kon is more than financially comfortable and do not need free tuition for their children.

Anonymous said...

If you have that many people from one family attending college at the same time--the tuition is WAIVED.
So much for the "college fund" problem.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to take a guess and say that, in the years to come, there will be more than one Gosselin offspring trying to shop reality shows around to the networks in an effort to make a living.

LOL, I can see it now: Year 2020, 10PM Wednesdays on VH1 A Shot At Love With Mady and Cara.

What I'd like to see now is Jon and Kate, and Brad and Angelina do a celebrity version of "Wife Swap".

SmartyQ said...

I think the chances of all of them going to college, not to mention, actually finishing college, astronomical.

Being raised with no work ethic and the expectation that there will be someone around to do everything for you leads to a sense of entitlement that makes achieving a high level of academic success quite difficult.


Amen to that! My guess is that, with luck, three of the children will be graduated from college. I hope the rest at least attend a trade school or something to prepare them to support themselves when they learn their parents aren't parting with a red cent earned by their children.

Moons in Leo said...

I imagine that all of the children might be accepted into college, surely not a Harvard or Yale, but whether they attend or finish and obtain a degree is certainly an unknown.

Hopefully, they inherited some smarts from their paternal grandfather. And perhaps some of his good heart, which I've heard he had.

Anonymous said...

In regard to SmartyQ's post, I think the kid's will go to work for Jon's burgeoning IT/Web business. I just can't imagine 9 of them working out of a bedroom closet. And Katey can keep the books. Wouldn't that be just dandy!

Anonymous said...

anon said......If you have that many people from one family attending college at the same time--the tuition is WAIVED.
So much for the "college fund" problem.
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Is this true? I've never heard such a thing!!!
If it is, I'd better start reproducing more quickly ;-)

Anonymous said...

Seriously, is the comment about tuition being waived for that many true? I've never heard of that- only in the case of private schools allowing a small discount after the first 2 siblings enrolled.

Sharla said...

I tend to think the idea that tuition is automatically waived is perhaps an urban myth. What happens is that the parental contribution is calculated and then divided by the number of students in college. So a family whose estimated contribution is $10,000 will pay that amount for one or $5,000 each for two, and so on. The total parental contribution doesn't go up with the number of students in college.

Anonymous said...

"What I'd like to see now is Jon and Kate, and Brad and Angelina do a celebrity version of "Wife Swap"."
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This comment citing Brad and Angelina reminds me of something interesting I found out about today. Are people aware that Brad and Angelina have established the Jolie-Pitt Foundation and give many millions of dollars to outstanding organizations to help sick and starving people? For example, they give to Doctors without Borders and many other organizations. Most recently, they gave $$$$$ to build and staff an HIV/AIDS clinic in Ethiopia. So, when I hear Kate or others reference them when talking about the Gosselins, it makes me cringe. Kate - if you had one tiny atomic particle of the class and generosity that Angelina has, you'd still be a tacky loser!!!

Anonymous said...

I hate to admit I still sometimes watch the show, the children are so cute, although Kate gets on my nerves she is so OCD I kinda feel sorry for Jon and the kids at times. After reading about them [ Jon and Kate] it was no secret to me they use the kids for $$$$. They seem to be money hungry people, (milking the situation) at the kids expense. They always talk about money being so tight but yet they are always getting all these trips and material things for free ??? I think that they need to stop acting like they are in need, when its clear that is not the case.