Episode Recap: Sight and Sound - 09/15/2008

Submitted for publication via email by Three Farmers.

In the beginning, God created free tickets.

But first, we have to clear up some misinformation that Alexis is forced by her parents to sleep in the basement because, as we learned in a previous episode, she wakes up all the other little kids. We have to hear the truth about Alexis's basement dwelling with the much more parent-friendly, "She loves it down there, she's like a bat." The show opens with the proclamation that, despite the fact that Alexis has been sleeping alone in the dark basement for many months, the room she formerly shared with her sisters is still her room so she is responsible for her share of the cleaning. After all, her bed is in there, if not Alexis, on a regular basis. ...continued

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Serena said...

EPISODE RECAP: SIGHT AND SOUND - 09/15/2008

Submitted for publication via email by Three Farmers.

In the beginning, God created free tickets.

But first, we have to clear up some misinformation that Alexis is forced by her parents to sleep in the basement because, as we learned in a previous episode, she wakes up all the other little kids. We have to hear the truth about Alexis's basement dwelling with the much more parent-friendly, "She loves it down there, she's like a bat." The show opens with the proclamation that, despite the fact that Alexis has been sleeping alone in the dark basement for many months, the room she formerly shared with her sisters is still her room so she is responsible for her share of the cleaning. After all, her bed is in there, if not Alexis, on a regular basis.

Now it has been officially said on the show that it was Alexis' idea to sleep in the basement, thereby negating all former televised statements to the contrary. What is amusing about this issue is that in the re-run immediately following this episode, they show the trip to Utah where J&K clearly state that they make Alexis sleep down in the basement because she keeps waking up the other kids. I've known people who talk out of both sides of their mouth, just never at the same time. Lie with me or lie against me. JUST LIE!

We get the the first shot of J&K doing a little couch time. Jon is noticeably taller than Kate because she looks to be slouched down in the seat, however, even at the end of the episode, Jon is still taller and Kate appears to be sitting normally. I guess they gave him a pillow/phone book/Joel to sit on. Maybe it's so he doesn't look subordinate to Kate. Maybe it's because production wants to avoid future concussions by having Kate smack Jon in the chest instead of upside the head. Who knows.

The Gosselins are taking a trip to the Sight & South Millennium Theater in Strasburg, PA. J&K tell us that they were blessed with the free tickets, but waited until the children were a little older before trying to take them to the theater. Tickets for the cheap (not on weekends) shows run $54.00 for adults and $16.00 for children 3-12, which puts the grand total for this donation at $236.00 in case the tax man is keeping track. Oh, tack on another $54.00 for helper Jenny. I don't remember if she was there or not.

The second they stroll into the theater, Kate nearly loses her highlights when she spots an entire rack of these half blanket/chewy, half stuffed animal/comfort item things. This is the same toy that Collin nearly lost after the gumgate incident where Kate threatened to throw his in the trash. It was discussed that Kate is done with stuffed toys and that they have several, BUT since these are FREE she's willing to reconsider, but not until after the show.

The Gosselins enter this enormous theater to learn the creation story as it is presented in the Bible. Since, I'm like the worst Christian ever, despite 8 years in Catholic school, I'll make this part quick. Adam+rib=Eve. Serpent+apple=trouble. Intermission=peeing . Tree+Eve-apple=eviction from Paradise and painful childbirth and menstrual cramps for all eternity. Nice. Thanks, Eve. The theater throws in some nifty lighting, sound, and some special effects, but the plot is pretty much the same. The fun part about the whole shebang (that's a Biblical term) is that the production uses live animals. After the show, the kids got to climb around like monkeys on the expensive and elaborate set, then they got to see some of the animals up close. The dog was fun. The horse was beautiful and smart and the parrot came out of a shell according to Alexis (I think). There was lots of laughing at the kids' comments this episode. Apparently, J&K are spending more time listening to their children. I wonder where they got that idea?

Jon and Kate take a moment of couch time to mention that they want a Standard Poodle. Did you hear that? THEY WANT A STANDARD POODLE. I'm sure God heard them and will provide accordingly.

The nice Lady from the theater tells the children that they can pick out something from the gift shop. Although books are briefly discussed, it was concluded that the smart thing to do is bring home more stuffed animals despite the fact that Kate is "done" with stuffed animals and they have plenty of them at home. But the toys are FREE so that makes it ok to contribute to the glut of stuff that they have already accumulated. Cara selected a stuffed pot bellied pig, which cues Jon to talk about the pot bellied pig that he has always wanted. Uh huh. THEY WANT A POT BELLIED PIG! While exiting the theater, Kate offers a quick "Thank You" and an even quicker hug for the nice theater Lady.

It's time to get home to dinner as blood sugar levels are dropping quicker than my IQ every time I watch this God forsaken program. While Kate stands in the kitchen organizing the food she has just swiped from the Craft Services table and calling the boys icky (sigh), Jon offers to help her. Kate gets all excited, not spa excited, but excited enough to grab Jon and jump around on him a bit. See how much they love each other? Then we see Collin taking some of the new, unneeded, unwanted stuffed animals and sucking on them. Hannah smacks Collin for wetting her toy. Aaden does the same and Collin gets sent to the naughty mat.

This is where I get confused. We see on camera that Collin is the culprit of the latest crime in the Gosselin house, but the first thing out of J&K's mouths is how Joel is the one who puts other peoples' chewies (A HA!) in his mouth, they briefly mention that Collin does it, too. Couldn't figure out why Joel got the headline here when Collin's antics got buried below the crease on page 8. Sounds like there are some little boys with security issues in this house. I'm sure punishing them for it will do wonders.

The program wraps with Jon and Kate on the couch talking about how wonderful their marriage has been lately and that it's because they are doing more things with their family.(Packing and unpacking, mostly.) They talk about how the kids love all the traveling and how it's great that they are meeting all sorts of new people who they will never see again. I guess meeting new people helps you replace the old ones.

Anonymous said...

I'd much rather read your recap than watch the show. I thank you and the meal in my stomach thanks you.

avidshrewwatcher said...

"Adam+rib=Eve. Serpent+apple=trouble. Intermission=peeing . Tree+Eve-apple=eviction from Paradise and painful childbirth and menstrual cramps for all eternity. Nice. Thanks, Eve."

The above = Comment of the Week!!!

Ravello said...

This recap is hilarious and totally on target.
I laughed out loud several times.

But reading it made me sad for the dear little boys that Kate continues to bash as icky, gross, unworthy of her time and unworthy of her precious Hannah's time. She warned Hannie to stay away from the gross boys. How sad.

Gee, I wonder why Colin and Joel have security issues and chew on comfort items at age 4.

And I thought about the banished loved ones Beth, Jodi Kevin and I was angry for them. Kate disses them when she makes the comment they are managing just fine with their paid nanny Jenny.

Yes, Jenny was at the show, Kate is happy she has Jenny take the kids to the potty. I'm so happy for Kate- she has been relieved of this mundane parental duty.

Anonymous said...

Just found your blog. Very funny and informative. I am almost tempted to buy their book, because what I have wanted to know since the show started is -where are the grandparents??? I know one is deceased, but where are the others ? There had to be some rift if their "grandparents" are the friends that take care of them or the nice lady that lives down the street. That has been bugging me from episode 1. I've heard their response about the grandparents, but its suspicously vague. I've read the Aunt Jodi blog and while I believe that most of it is true, its very hard to follow/read.

Anonymous said...

Why the concern over where Alexis sleeps? I have twins and during naptime when they were toddlers I often put one to sleep in another room. It is really hard to get them relaxed enough to sleep with siblings of the exact same age. If Alexis isn't able to do that I'd move her too. It's not a mean thing to do, it's a necessary thing. Everyone needs some sleep at night. It could very well be they forced it at first and now she likes it. It's quiet time, all alone which in a family of 10 is rare. She might really need that more than the other tup girls. I just can't fathom why everyone gets so worked up about it. Mom and Dad moved her because she woke the other kids up in the middle of the night. It seems she wants to stay there now....big deal!
There are plenty of things I see them do that I cringe at but, separating a child that routinely wakes the others at bedtime doesn't seem like a bad thing to me.

Jim S said...

"In the beginning, God created free tickets" should be the comment of the week. Too funny!

And it was good.:)

Paula S said...

"She loves it down there, she's like a bat."

Does this mean she hangs upside down from the ceiling, uses sonar to navigate, and eats mosquitoes?

quietlyconcerned said...

Please Please Please Lord, do NOT let the Gosselins have pets. Not a standard poodle, not a pot-bellied pig. Lord, the creatures you made with such originality do not deserve to be tortured in the ways the Gosselins can dream up. No one in that household is mature enough to own pets. No one. No one.

Anonymous said...

Great recap!

I was wondering if anyone else took note of the request for a standard poodle. I guess one will be falling out of the sky here soon. Can't wait to see Kate have a stroke when it pees on the carpet.

Ilovemykids said...

Poor Kate. Maybe Figure 8 can supply Kate with an assistant to help her keep her lies straight.

Paula S said...

" I guess one will be falling out of the sky here soon. "

It will soon be raining pot bellied pigs and dogs over the Gosselin house soon. I hope they are organic.

wendimail said...

I was SO glad to hear how happy they are now that they're focused on their family and no longer have to outsource them. Beth, where's your blog?

Anonymous said...

What scares me the most is that on this thread and several others people will defend their decision to separate Alexis from ALL the other kids and stick her in the basement. How sad and scary not only that Kon does this, but that there is anyone out there who thinks it's ok! Geez..

lulu said...

I noticed something odd while watching this episode. When they get home from the theater and are unloading the van, Kate sits in the front seat the ENTIRE time while Jon unloads children and stuff. Go back and watch it again. It's not that she's just taking her time getting out, she's just sitting there. She might be on the phone, I can't tell. Think how long it takes to unload 8 kids plus stuff... Jon does it all while Kate just sits. Baffling.

IMHO said...

3F: It's time to get home to dinner as blood sugar levels are dropping quicker than my IQ every time I watch this God forsaken program

See that bold print? - I'm using my html skills you taught me! Pretty soon I'll be able to have something redirected in blue on a comment that says "interesting click". But not yet...

Anyway - I love you! This was great! Your comment above tho, shows why I cannot watch this show any longer. Someday, you'll stop too - I can just feel it!

Libby said...

Excellent recap...what a writer you are! Maybe you could help Kate write her next 2 books. *wink*

2sillymonkeys said...

I wish they would have called this episode: "Sight, Sound & Smell," because it wreaked of damage control!

FIONA said...

EF,
Great recap! I applaud you for not insulting the kids.

Did anyone hear when Kate pointed to the books for Mady and she said somthing like "Why do I need a bedtime prayer book"...she definetly caught herself....I got the feeling she has been coached not to say certain things on air.

Anyway-I still liked this episode over all.

Libby said...

I wonder where they'll put the standard poodle (huge!) when they are all squeezing into that van to go "hither, thither and yon" (as Kate says). Maybe they'll add one of those u-haul trailers to the back of the van and drag the poor animal around on their outings. A standard poodle...another poor creature for Kate to pawn off on "helpers", or another job for Jon...picking up dog poo...how fun.

acards86 said...

This is my first time posting and all I really want to know is what are they going to do when the tups start school. Is that when they will get a poodle and a pig so they have something to tape Kate yelling at?? If there's nobody around for her to berate then what are they going to film. They aren't going to home school them. If they did they'd probably leave the twins in public school. Is it not weird to anyone else that they hae never mentioned (unless I'm mistaken) about possibly sending them to a private school. I mean Lord knows that they would be able to afford because they are so "blessed". You know if they were offered scholarships to private schoold J&K would take them in a second. It would be along the same lines as the college money issue.

But back to the show after the tups start school. The cameras can't follow them to school and film what they do all day. Also, do they realize that the kids are going to most likely be separated in different classes. They are used to being together and once they start school, aside from how much TLC editing likes to show them missing eachother when separated, they are not going to be that way. When they get home and have to deal with their brothers and sisters again after being away from all or some of them all day it's not going to be pretty. Not to mention that they will also be the "slower" children in their classes if you know what I mean. I mean they turned 4 in May and don't know their alphabet yet or their numbers. And the baby talk is going to set them back just little also. I have a nephew who is in first grade and when he started kindergarten he didn't even know his colors and although he caught on very quickly, because he's a quick learner, I just don't see that in the tups. I mean at some points in the episodes it seems like they can't even do everyday things on their own very well. I'm surprised they know how to put their clothes on when Jon or Kate order them to put them on.

My nephew is an only child and was most of the time surrounded by adults. So, when started school he loved being around other kids and actually getting to be a kid with other kids who think like he does. The tups are not like this. They are around the same age group all the time. I feel, and I hope you agree with me, that when they start school they are going to be stubborn bratty children. They are not going to want to play nice or share or do anything that is encouraged in school because it is not encouraged at home. I fear for these children when they start school.

As far as Mady and Cara go, when they started school did the cameras go there and watch them walk into class and watch J&K's expressions to their first borns going to school? You know when the tups start the camera will be there most of the day and they will show J&K way too much. They will probably dedicate a couple episodes to just that. It will show J&K on the couch talking about how sad they are and how quiet the house will be and Jon will pretend to show interest in "getting to work more now" because we all know that's what he'll say. Kate might actually get job too. Who knows the whole show could change just on the basis that there will be no kids for them to film all day. You can only make so many episodes of kids getting off the bus and being crabby at the dinner table. Assuming they are at the table because we all know "they don't always want to eat". Are they going to show just episodes of them selling out their children on weekend getaways? That again takes me back to the fact that once they experience a new environment like school with all new and different people they aren't going to want to be with their brothers and sisters. They are going to be becoming their own people and realize that what mom and dad say or what everyone else does isn't exactly the way it has to be.
Well I will bring my rant to close by saying that I fear for those children and the family as a whole. What are they going to do once their "blessings" stop coming in?? Those children are used to getting things like they do, how are they going to cope with being away in a different environment all day and then having to come home to nothing and no camera crew?? J&K have a alot of thinking to do in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

anyone else notice that Kate referred to the basement as a "dungeon".

iluveeyore said...

Anonymous 7:58:

The problem is that they continually tell the immediate world where a small child is sleeping alone... no parents or siblings nearby, to hear or see anything that happens...

Step right up everybody, HERE SHE IS!

K.C. said...

Anonymous said...
Just found your blog. Very funny and informative. I am almost tempted to buy their book, because what I have wanted to know since the show started is -where are the grandparents??? I know one is deceased, but where are the others ? There had to be some rift if their "grandparents" are the friends that take care of them or the nice lady that lives down the street. That has been bugging me from episode 1. I've heard their response about the grandparents, but its suspicously vague. I've read the Aunt Jodi blog and while I believe that most of it is true, its very hard to follow/read.


I doubt you will get the answers to your questions about their parents in the book. There is NO WAY I would waste my money on that book. My understanding is, it's a book about their 'story'. Supposedly the book is co-written by Beth from Kate's point of view, (with Jon's name added after Beth was out of the picture). I'm sure the story includes the infamous "magic couch" that paid the Gosselin's rent, how their religion guided them through the stress of sextuplets, how God dropped papertowels on their front porch. I would bet anything that you can find out more about the estrangement and relationships between the family members on GWoP and the other sites on the internet.

If you found Julie's blog hard to follow you may want to check out the links on the right hand side of this blog. Julie posted a recap of events that lead to Jodi being cut off by Kate on one of the links here, (PennMommy's blog).

Anonymous said...

3F, I just want to tell you that for some time now, I have wanted to suggest that you do some other writing for this site, other than your entries. Your writing style is fantastic, interesting, hilarious and so eloquent. GREAT JOB ON THIS POST.

To the poster re Alexis sleeping in the basement : you are correct in that , in THEORY, separating the "waker upper" from the "sleepers" is pretty common and an easy solution. The problems that I have with this are:

- The manner in which it was initially handled. Alexis was banished to the basement to sleep by herself. I'm quite certain that KON didn't try to explain to Alexis (calmly,patiently) why she needs to be quiet and not wake her sisters, mabe she could look at a book until they woke up, etc etc
Just like everything else that KON do, they can't be bothered with actual parenting. They just try to find the quickest solution (in their minds) whether it is the right one or not.

- KON (esp Kate) has never been a fan of Alexis( her own daughter)so this was just one more thing to not like about her. Had it been Hannah or Cara, it never would have happened.

- If the basement is a walkout or has windows, it is too dangerous. Any nutcase could break in - everyone in America knows where they live, what the house looks like, and that there is a young child sleeping alone. Scary.

- If there is a fire , will they (firefighters, neighbors) remember to get little Alexis from the basement? Seems to me that most of the initial help would be to get the kids upstairs.

- The icing on the organic cake is that KON are now saying that Alexis CHOSE to be in the basement, when we all know that is not the case. Lies, Lies, and more Lies !

The whole scenario just stinks. I so dislike Kate(I admit, there is a part of me who still has hope for Jon). I am waiting for the day that Nancy Grace or 20/20, etc exposes this scam !!!

Greenmunkee said...

Did anyone notice in the Sight and Sound episode that Cara now has pierced ears? They look cute on her. I noticed it when she was picking out her stuffed animal.

K.C. said...

Anonymous, In my previous comment, I was referring to this recap of events from Julie written on PennMommy's blog:

The Truth Will Set You Free said...
I'd first like to thank scsun for sharing your story. Your insight really explained alot to me.

I think it was threefarmers who gave the lesson of bolding text, so I'm going to give it a try--thanks!

I'd also like to clarify a previous comment I made. I said the "entire" family (Kreiders) is confrontational, but I really should have said is the "majority". Someone asked about Kevin and I'll just say that I have nothing but respect for him. He is the brother I never had and my husband is the brother he never had. Our families are as close as we can be (being 4 hrs apart) and we would never allow anything to come between our relationship. This situation has not consumed our lives and we are supporting each other in every step we take. We aren't giving out many details and there is alot that really is nobody's business.

I haven't read all of these comments, and several posters have already said exactly what I would say.

I'd like to address a few things that I keep seeing over and over again.

"Airing dirty laundry"--this logic makes no sense to me. I have only responded to things that have been made public by J&K. For those who say I have given "every detail", that's just ridiculous! I've known the family for 12+ yrs, and I haven't said a word about anything that has happened in all of that time. And I'm not going to. Do I talk about Kate's parents, sisters, past things that involve Jodi/Kevin? Have I ever talked about what has happened when Jodi was traveling with them for the show? How about things that went on off camera? The answer is NO! The only thing I have talked about that happened off camera is the issue with the contract and why Jodi won't be on the show any longer.

"We don't know J&K's side"--WHAT?? This one really gets to me! I am responding to THEIR side of the story. They have a TV show, website, TLC website, speaking engagements, talk show appearances, etc. They have the forum to address whatever they want/however they want. Many people have started catching them in their lies and that is what is leading people to the internet to try to find answers.

I'll try to explain what happened with Jodi one more time. KC and jezebel seem to have a good understanding of what happened.

None of this will make any sense if you don't have an understanding of how Kate works. It's hard for me to fathom that someone could view people this way, but this is how it works with her. People are objects. Kate doesn't "do" relationships. If you are of some use to Kate, then she'll use you for that purpose. When that need has been met or someone better comes along, she's done with you. There's no reason given, and no discussion. If you question her, make her upset in some way, don't do things her way--you're done. It doesn't matter how long you've known her, what you've done for her or even if you are family. She also uses her children the same way.

MONEY is not and never has been the issue between J&K/Jodi and Kevin. I know how much Jodi and Kevin have helped over the years. Spiritually, emotionally, physically and financially--they have been there since the twins were born. They were there so much that J&K moved into their neighborhood.

The show meant NOTHING to Jodi and Kevin. They were doing what they always had done. Jodi knew that she had to be seen as "useful" to Kate to be able to have a relationship with the kids. So she allowed the cameras in her home and she watched the kids on a regular basis. She never expected to be paid and would never have even taken money if it had been offered.

The contract--there are several things that happened around the same time, and I don't believe that money was ever the REAL issue. When Season 1 was filmed, it was done over a longer amount of time, Jon was still working and there was about a 6 month lag in airing the episodes. There were only about 8 episodes and no one had any idea what was going to happen. The same with Season 2. There wasn't a rigorous filming schedule and the show wasn't their only source of income. Things started to change as Season 3 progressed. There was a big difference in filming when comparing the previous 2 seasons. They became more popular and the schedule became more demanding. They started making big money and the fame and money changed them to some extent. They no longer had to work, they could make demands and were given whatever they wanted. Egos started to get bigger. Jodi was very involved (although not always on camera) and started doing some traveling with them. She saw first hand how all of this was affecting the kids. Jodi talked with the producer and J&K about her concerns. I believe this was the REAL issue. They saw Jodi as a threat to the show. This was also around the same time that Kate said Jodi made her look bad and Jon said he was deleting the fan mail. So I think in Kate's mind, it came to a point that Jodi needed to be replaced.

I believe the contract was just an easy excuse. Maybe Kate thought that if she refused, then Jodi would just walk away and then she could blame her for being there for money. When Jodi and Kevin were approached and told that Kate refused to allow them to be compensated before Season 2, they didn't believe it. Jodi and Kevin didn't feel comfortable making a deal behind Kate's back, so Kevin asked her. (Someone mentioned that Kate was upset that Kevin went to her instead of Jodi, but I'm not aware of that. That was said by someone leaving a comment and did not come from me). Kate immediately accused Jodi and Kevin of being there for the money. This is what is so upsetting! Not the fact that she refused to allow them to be paid, but the things that she said to Kevin's face. Of course it was hurtful, but the point is, Jodi knew that if she wanted to have a relationship with the children, she had to go along with Kate and still be useful.

There was NO fight over money. Jodi accepted Kate's wishes and told Kate--herself--that she didn't care about the contract or money. She just wanted to continue what they had been doing all along.
Kate said NO--she was hiring someone else. So at that point, Jodi knew she was out. Not just off the show, but out of their lives. That's the way it works. The network would now pay for someone else, so Jodi was no longer of any use to Kate. I know that sounds harsh and some want to believe there was some big family feud, but that isn't the case at all.

We waited 2 months before I started the blog. I wanted to make sure that what Jodi thought would happen, would actually take place. She was right. Kate cut out the last family members who had any direct contact with them. I knew that as long as Jodi was still involved, that she would be an advocate for the children. The children now have NO ONE to speak on their behalf. J&K have said "Our life is the show and the show is our life". These are their own words. They are surrounded by people who are making money off of them and who are looking out for the best interest of the business not the children.

Coming forward for me has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jon and Kate. I find the situation dangerous for the children. I'm thankful that Paul Petersen is now involved. It has been proven over time that parents of child actors can't be trusted to make sound decisions when it comes to finances or what's best for the child. That's why laws have been made. All children in reality TV deserve the same protection. I don't watch the show or the other shows mentioned, but I want to do my part to help raise awareness and hopefully laws will be made to protect other children in the future.

September 12, 2008 8:38 AM

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AliceAnonymous said...

another job for Jon...picking up dog poo...how fun.

Of course it'll be fun. Jon and the dog can have their picture taken of the first piece of doggy-doo-doo the pup drops and it can go in with the rest of the poo-pics in Kate's poopy photo album. Except for Mady's poo. Kate said she got a picture of everyone's first poo but Mady's. What kind of a mother forgets that!

Aaahh memories...misty water-colored memories....

BEE said...

First of all I have to say that your recap of Genesis was pretty funny!

I don't get why it is scary or wrong to have Alexis sleep in the basement? It isn't like they are putting her in an unfinished, spider infested, moldy, laundry room. The Gosselin's basement is just as nice as their "bedrooms". And from what we can see on TV there are not any doors or windows that lead to the outside.

I also don't recall Kate or Jon saying that it was Alexis' "idea" to sleep in the basement. I believe Kate stated something along the lines that they have her sleep there because she is a night-owl AND on this episode they were reiterating the fact that she enjoys it.

Also, I would thik that bloggers would be happy to see the Gosselins listening more, goofying around more with their kids etc. However, when they do something "right" they still get criticized.

Bicoastal said...

Hats off to you, Three Farmers! Just hilarious.

I quit watching the show several weeks ago; too phony.

I do look forward to the national humiliation of KON. Their PR agent is a simpleton - just like her clients.

And the kids? Just not cutting it anymore. Nothing J&K and all the PR people in the world can do about that short of stunting their growth.

Hmmm, guess I shouldn't give those grifters ideas...

Chris said...

Since I've quit watching the show I really enjoy reading the recaps. It's an easy way to find out what the lies of the week are.

Momof2 said...

What an idiot Kate was for telling the world where there young daughter sleeps by herself at night. I would be petrified that some sicko would break in now.

This woman acts like everybody else is so unintelligent next to her. She may think she has good grammar and never does anything wrong, but common sense, she doesn't have it, telling the world where her kid sleeps. I am disgusted.

Anonymous said...

- The manner in which it was initially handled. Alexis was banished to the basement to sleep by herself. I'm quite certain that KON didn't try to explain to Alexis (calmly,patiently) why she needs to be quiet and not wake her sisters, mabe she could look at a book until they woke up, etc etc
Just like everything else that KON do, they can't be bothered with actual parenting. They just try to find the quickest solution (in their minds) whether it is the right one or not.

- KON (esp Kate) has never been a fan of Alexis( her own daughter)so this was just one more thing to not like about her. Had it been Hannah or Cara, it never would have happened.

- If the basement is a walkout or has windows, it is too dangerous. Any nutcase could break in - everyone in America knows where they live, what the house looks like, and that there is a young child sleeping alone. Scary.

- If there is a fire , will they (firefighters, neighbors) remember to get little Alexis from the basement? Seems to me that most of the initial help would be to get the kids upstairs.

- The icing on the organic cake is that KON are now saying that Alexis CHOSE to be in the basement, when we all know that is not the case. Lies, Lies, and more Lies !

You have no idea about this. How on earth would you know that Alexis wasn't told why she had to sleep apart from the others? How on earth do you know that it's the only method they tried? I can't think of a thing wrong with separating a child who is waking up their siblings all night.

Anonymous said...

I never read recaps because I thought they were verbatim and posted only for informational purposes.

BOY was I missing out!
This recap was so funny and right on hahaahahahah.

hellokitty said...

I did not tune in this week, but the recap was entertaining.

In reference to them asking for a standard Poodle: Could this possibly be a "test" to see how much pull they have with the public and if anyone will offer them one? It just seems like such an absurd request.

I'd love to hear anyone's opinion.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure where to put this but I noticed something on the Utah trip episode.

On the couch interview Kate says they delayed waking Alexis (in the basement) "because she's a bear, I guess?" Then she looks to Jon for confirmation. Like she wasn't completely sure. It just rang true with Julie saying Kate doesn't even know the kids.

buddhadoesntdeliver said...

I'm sure God heard them and will provide accordingly.

Kate's God only provides paper products - paper towels, toilet paper, MONEY. She relies on the creatures that God created people,animals,sheeple(same difference) to deliver the hard goods.

Anonymous said...

BEE said...
I don't get why it is scary or wrong to have Alexis sleep in the basement? It isn't like they are putting her in an unfinished, spider infested, moldy, laundry room. The Gosselin's basement is just as nice as their "bedrooms". And from what we can see on TV there are not any doors or windows that lead to the outside.

I also don't recall Kate or Jon saying that it was Alexis' "idea" to sleep in the basement. I believe Kate stated something along the lines that they have her sleep there because she is a night-owl AND on this episode they were reiterating the fact that she enjoys it.


Why the basement? They have a perfectly good bedroom right next to the master bedroom where they could have put her. One that if there ever was a fire they could easily grab her on the way to get to the other kids. For me the basement issue is all about safety - if Alexis were 14 I wouldn't worry as much, but 4? I don't know what the PA fire code is but where I live basement bedrooms are not legal unless there's a fire exit within so many feet of the bedroom. Does their basement even have a window? Even so would Alexis be able to reach it to escape?

J&K didn't say it was Alexis' idea but they did say in the latest episode that it was her "choice", and ironically in the repeat that followed Kate herself said they put Alexis in the basement (nothing said then about choice).

Nat said...

anon 7:58 said "Why the concern over where Alexis sleeps? I have twins and during naptime when they were toddlers I often put one to sleep in another room. It is really hard to get them relaxed enough to sleep with siblings of the exact same age. If Alexis isn't able to do that I'd move her too. It's not a mean thing to do, it's a necessary thing. Everyone needs some sleep at night. It could very well be they forced it at first and now she likes it. It's quiet time, all alone which in a family of 10 is rare. She might really need that more than the other tup girls. I just can't fathom why everyone gets so worked up about it. Mom and Dad moved her because she woke the other kids up in the middle of the night. It seems she wants to stay there now....big deal!
There are plenty of things I see them do that I cringe at but, separating a child that routinely wakes the others at bedtime doesn't seem like a bad thing to me."

I have a 4YO son and it would be a frosty day in hell when he slept in the basement of my house and I live in a bungaloo. My sons room is right next door and I can hear every move he makes. I WANT to know when he wakes up in the night and moves around the house... god only knows what he would get into if I didnt wake up when he did. Jon and Kate are 2 floors above her so when she wakes up at night shes wandering around the house by herself ... its very unsafe IMO.

Anonymous said...

You have no idea about this. How on earth would you know that Alexis wasn't told why she had to sleep apart from the others? How on earth do you know that it's the only method they tried? I can't think of a thing wrong with separating a child who is waking up their siblings all night.

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I agree with the original poster's opinions. We do not know EXACTLY what /how /if KON explained to Alexis about going to the basement, but we've all seen enough to know that it was probably not done with a lot of "warmth".

Under normal circumstances, separating a louder sibling is not a big deal, but taking into consideration the situation of the G family, it is a bigger deal.

Topaz said...

It is my opinion that J&K need to get Alexis out of that basement at once. Take her aside and explain that she is a "big girl" now and should sleep with the other "big girls." Try a reward system if they like. One sticker for each successful night. Seven stickers equals a small reward (something Alexis likes.) Find a way that works. But please, J&K should INSIST that Alexis sleep in her own room from now on!

Momof2 said...

Its more the fact she revealed it on national TV where they put the child and that she is by herself.
But, what else is new? Kate reveals everything about them on TV. The poor things have nothing private. They are still dressing the 4 year olds in front of the camera crew on national TV. My own daughter got very shy by 4 and wanted privacy. These kids don't realize how abnormal it is for a camera crew to be taping them getting dressed, etc.

Also, the twins are not even allowed to have outside friends. One episode, a friend called to talk to Maddy or Cara, and Kate went off saying what business do 6 year olds have talking on the phone at this age.

I think its so cute when they start first grade and want to call each other, no harm in that. What a shrew Kate is. I think we are witnessing a real Mommy Dearest right before our eyes. Can anybody help those kids?

Anonymous said...

They said that they had gone there before, a couple years ago, and were invited back (second time going to sight & sound). Kate wanted to wait until the kids were older and see the creation story the second time.
the FIRST time they were there Kristin told them they could pick out an animal for free, Kate said no thank you. the SECOND filmed time Kate allowed her kids to select an animal, which I assumed she purchased since they showed them being scanned and Jon said we BOUGHT.

also, it isn't like their basement is a unfinished dungeon without lights. they have carpet and paint and walls down there. If they just called it the 'family room' instead of the 'basement' would you still be so upset?

Maggie said...

Kate called it a dungeon.

Anonymous said...

For me the basement issue is all about safety - "

I've thought the same thing about where the twins sleep. While its good that they have their privacy, if something should happen, who's going to think of looking where they sleep? I also worried about them in the tent by themselves, you just never know anymore what can happen, and where real celebreties do certain things to protect their children, KON seems to not have a clue. =0(

Nat said...

Topaz said...
It is my opinion that J&K need to get Alexis out of that basement at once. Take her aside and explain that she is a "big girl" now and should sleep with the other "big girls." Try a reward system if they like. One sticker for each successful night. Seven stickers equals a small reward (something Alexis likes.) Find a way that works. But please, J&K should INSIST that Alexis sleep in her own room from now on!

Yes, but that just SMACKES of effort and Kate is HORRENDOUSLY EXHAUSTED dont you know? Oh, but not too exhausted to take in the "blessing" of a standard poodle puppy! ;)

Anonymous said...

I can't believe no one has commented on the time required to care for a pet - how can they do that when they're taking trips all the time?

Anonymous said...

KC -

Can you tell me what topic that post at Pennmommy is under? Thanks for posting here - I missed it! I think Julie clearly states her reasons for the blog, and I appreciate Julie sharing the other side of the story.

3F- Great recap!!! My favorite line and I'm paraphrasing - "do you hear that GOD, they want a poodle!"

Anonymous said...

WONDERFUL RECAP - YOU ARE TRULY TALENTED!! you made my laugh out loud several times as did the poster who said "Someone from Figure 8 should hire an assistant for Kate to keep her lies straight comment of the week - also loved the anon poster who said that kate will have a stroke when the dog pees on the carpet priceless...in these days we all need humor and thanks for the laughs and truly fabulous insight.GWOP admins and posters truly are the most intelligent and humorous group...I no longer watch the show but just love the blogs keep up the great work

Linda said...

I remember Kate screeching while looking for her violin, asking where in "her room" did Jon put it. I wonder if he is in the basement with Alexis?

ThreeFarmers said...

Thank you to all the wonderful compliments. If I had any shame, I'd be blushing right now. *grin*

Paula S said...

" I think we are witnessing a real Mommy Dearest right before our eyes. Can anybody help those kids? "

Jon should be the one helping the kids. But, the balless wonder doesn't have the guts to stand up to Kate. He'd rather see his kids subjected to her nastiness than put his foot down and have her stop.

Paula S said...

My opinion of Alexis being banished to the dungeon is this. Yes, I agree she was probably waking up up the little girls but I think the real problem is that they were also waking up Kate.

AmandaT said...

When I was in high school I had this awful "friend." Every time I was dumb enough to tell her about something or someone I liked, she had to buy the item or go after the guy. So then I started pointing out tacky outfits and creepy guys. And she'd still do it!
Kinda like the Gosselin's and their PR machine. Although they lie and say they don't read this, they obviously do. Maybe we should go on and on about how Kate needs to start wearing her hair in a mohawk, how we want to see them sign up for country line dancing, etc.
Ahhh ... sorry. Sarcasm just gets a hold of me sometimes.
And the basement thing is a safety issue! People know where they live, they know the kids, they know that there is one little girl all alone in the basement. I wouldn't do that with my child, and I won't even post a public picture of him on the internet.

ThreeFarmers said...

I do recall in a previous episode that Jon said he slept downstairs with Alexis. I don't know if it was just a few times or if it's an ongoing thing.

Also, if Alexis was my kid, this is what I would do.

I would make a place for her to sleep in MY room. Not in my bed. In my room. That way, when she woke up in the middle of the night, I would know about it and explain to her what she should do when she wakes up like that. The child needs to learn to put herself back to sleep. She can't help that she wakes up. She needs guidance and some sort of strategy to return her to her room with her sisters.

Also, we first learned that Alexis was sleeping in the basement in the plane trip to Utah epi. That aired in February, so it was probably filmed a month or so prior to that. She was 3 when they put her in that basement and that is far too young in my opinion. Especially when they could just put a little futon or cot in the study room.

I think having her in J&K's room would be best so they can deal with the problem directly.

quietlyconcerned said...

Lordy Be, someone has offered them a free dog:

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/pa/TGPB1EBN7KVMUOM81/p8#lastPost

(Post # 164)

Does the person have no regard for the animals she breeds!

Ack, this is getting worse by the minute.

Anonymous said...

I have to admit that I almost yelled "NOOOOOOOOOOO" at my TV when the standard poodle was mentioned. Is she out of her mind? Poop on carpets, pee, dirty feet, at least 3 good walks a day,chewed up toys, knocked over kids, holes in the yard etc.,etc.etc. But I'm thinking that at least the humain society might get involved when they see how Kate manages an animal.
And by the way I am a dog lover and owner, but never would I add one more child to my family if I had that gang and a dog is just another kid.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice that more than once Jon used the term "buy (the animals)?" Like they paid for them? That was odd to me. If it's free, then it's free and be grateful, don't pretend you paid. I was wondering if it was to point out that LAST time they offered them something free and they didn't want it, and this time maybe they didn't (shame on them, right?).

Anonymous said...

Paula S-

So true. Queenie needs her beauty rest after all - remember, she's EXHAUSTED.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice that more than once Jon used the term "buy (the animals)?" Like they paid for them?

I did notice that. I noticed they had a shot of Jon paying with plastic, so to speak. He also paid with a credit card at Dick's Sporting Goods last week for their backyard camping adventure. Personally, I think it's more like a business credit card that the production company gave to them to use so it looks like they're not getting as many freebies (damage control).

Anonymous said...

3F-

Of course, your suggestion is sound, but involves WAY too much effort for KON. Kate can't even get up in the morning to make her own $%&*@ coffee, there's no way she is gonna deal with Alexis in the middle of the night. And, she doesn't even want Jon dealing with Alexis in the middle of the night because it disrupts her sleep. I think Paula S hit it on the head when she said that Alexis was banished to the basement so as not to disturb Queenie Kate.

gj said...

Honetsly, I think we all really need to stop watching the show. I stopped watching as of 2 weeks ago because I honestly think that's the only way we can really send the message that we don't support the show. I used to TIVO it and it finally dawned on me that I dislike KON and will no longer support her. How will TLC and figure 8 ever stop running the show if their ratings are through the roof?

hellokitty said...

"Lordy Be, someone has offered them a free dog:

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/pa/TGPB1EBN7KVMUOM81/p8#lastPost"

Anyone who has a hand in giving these people an animal should be ashamed. Have they not seen how they treat their kids?! If they put their 4 year old daughter in the basement, I imagine they'll strap the dog to the roof. This is getting ridiculously out of hand. Wake up TLC!

Anonymous said...

Alexis is probably physically closer to her parents in the basement than the other kids are on the 2nd floor. Either way, none of the kids sleep on the same floor as their parents. ~Rhys

Manda said...

So what does Alexis do now when she wakes up in the middle of the night in the basement? Just wander around in there and play? Watch TV? She's a smart kid - why wouldnt she wonder upstairs and either go to J&K's room or upstairs to the kids' rooms?...or God forbid out the door? Do they LOCK her in the basement?

Anonymous said...

Just wanted to point out that it's a fire hazard to have a child sleeping in the basement... There is only one way out.

evileye said...

I bet they put up the gate so she can't go up.

Julie confirmed that Kate used to lock the tups in their rooms for nap.

Anonymous said...

She was 3 when they put her in that basement and that is far too young in my opinion. Especially when they could just put a little futon or cot in the study room"

I have a 3 year old and I could never sleep knowing she was down on our futon in our basement! Aside from the safety issue--because she has slipped on the stairs and fallen before--it is just heartbreaking to me to think of it. She is isolated from her family. That is their lazy way of dealing with an issue-stick someone off in a corner or basement alone somewhere. They do not teach their kids anything, nor do they discipline equally or fairly. They single out kids they don't like dealing with. Double standards. Plus, she is seen as the outsider. It's obvious, and she is not developing a normal relationship with her siblings. They all bond while she is banished to another part of the house. Sorry, I can't see what is right about that.

Anonymous said...

...does anyone know if the Gosselins celebrate Halloween/are allowed to trick-or-treat? There's never been an episode devoted to this in 4 years (except when they carved pumpkins) that I know of. Maybe their kids are too good to go to ordinary peoples' houses to beg for food?

ThreeFarmers said...

I bet they put up the gate so she can't go up.

Julie confirmed that Kate used to lock the tups in their rooms for nap.


In my family, by the time children are 4 they can practically hurdle those gates. Gates work until they are maybe, if you're lucky, 2. After that, they can climb them and get out at will. I believe Alexis and the others were climbing out of their cribs which made getting the beds appropriate. If she can climb out of a crib, she can climb over a gate. They'd have to have some floor to ceiling number from the zoo to contain that little monkey. (I mean that in a good way. I not saying that the child is an animal or that she should be treated like one. I just think she's a good climber. Didn't we already see her climbing one of the posts in the basement?)

Anonymous said...

I also don't recall Kate or Jon saying that it was Alexis' "idea" to sleep in the basement. I believe Kate stated something along the lines that they have her sleep there because she is a night-owl AND on this episode they were reiterating the fact that she enjoys it.

Also, I would thik that bloggers would be happy to see the Gosselins listening more, goofying around more with their kids etc. However, when they do something "right" they still get criticized.
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Doing something "right" like lying?! Lying about why Alexis is in the basement? Please tell what they are now doing right? I don't call going on and doing all this damage control, which includes many obvious lies, doing anything right! Is putting her in the basement right? No. Goofying around with their kids? To me it's the same way they have always acted. They make fun of them and that's about it. It's not joking with them. It's joking at their expense. They do not have a comfortable relationship with most of their kids and that is clear. Ever see her picking up one of the boys and trying to be playful? They get a horrified look on their faces like 'wth'??

dizzy_squishling_and_bean said...

It has been stated more than once by people with insider information that J&K don't pay for stuff that is shown on the show. Whether the theater gave them the animals or Figure 8 paid for them, it doesn't matter. For the most part we know it wasn't paid for by J&K, so the verb BOUGHT is incorrect. They don't buy these things. They are given to them, its part of the self deception that J&K are involved in. The have lied sooooo much that they have convinced themselves that the lies they are spouting are true.
"The kids love being on TV"
"Alexis LOOOOVES sleeping in the basement"
"We save up and buy everything you see here"
"I organically cook ALL of our meals"

These are just some of the constant lies that they have told that they are obviously now deluding themselves into thinking are true.

Ravello said...

My hunch is Alexis is gated in the basement at night although she is getting bigger and could climb out soon. Go Alexis

The most shocking thing I ever saw on the show was during one of the first specials. Jon left for work at 6 am, Kate slept until 8. Then she got herself ready before she got the tups out of their cribs. It appeared to me the tups were prisoners in their cribs until Queen Kate got her beauty sleep.
To me that was totally shocking. Especially if the tups were put to bed very early the night bfore. You know they were awake.
What kind of mother doesn't get up with her kids in the morning?

Kate has never been kid oriented in the conventional way.

Anonymous said...

I think its fine. If it works for them, then who are you (or anyone) to say it isnt. Geez..
And unless you have some credentials your opinion hold no water. It's not fine to have anyone sleeping in a place without approved fire exits. That home doesn't appear to have an exit that the fire dept would approve of for sleeping in the basement. She's 4 not fourteen with makes it double unsafe. And this is why those who say, it's fine scare people because God only knows they too now think they will stick their disruptive 3 y.o. in some unsafe sleeping place. Gah!!!!

Anonymous said...

Ravello said...
To Truth, Julie, please be assured many of us totally support you, Jodi Kevin, Beth anyone who has tried to advocate for the G kids.

I am very happy you went public with the blog, I miss the blog updates but understand it is getting more and more difficult for you to share new information.


What's new to share. We all are aware that Kate and her bitch, Jon, are pathological liars, that's evident from the show even. They use and discard people like tissues also evident from the show now. They gave us the heads up now it's our burden to either show we care about what is going on in reality tv in regards to minors and write those sponsors or sit on our hands and enjoy the freak show. I'd say shame on the Duggars but they might just be too naïve to realize doing a reality show is not in their children's best interest.

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate's bedroom is on the first floor. So Alexis is only one floor below them. In our house the master bedroom is on the first floor and the kids are on the second. I've never had a problem. My children know that when they wake up they either come down and put the tv on or come in and wake us up.

Manda said...

Perhaps cutting out that forced afternoon nap would help in keeping her asleep through the night too.

Anonymous said...

She can't help that she wakes up. She needs guidance and some sort of strategy to return her to her room with her sisters.

How about fewer forced naps? If I were forced to nap for 3 hours in the afternoon, I'd wake up in the middle of the night too.

Anonymous said...

I think its fine. If it works for them, then who are you (or anyone) to say it isnt. Geez..
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And unless you have some credentials your opinion hold no water. It's not fine to have anyone sleeping in a place without approved fire exits. That home doesn't appear to have an exit that the fire dept would approve of for sleeping in the basement. She's 4 not fourteen with makes it double unsafe. And this is why those who say, it's fine scare people because God only knows they too now think they will stick their disruptive 3 y.o. in some unsafe sleeping place. Gah!!!!
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And I'm not concerned with "what works for THEM" (the parents), but with the child's welfare. I'm not just talking safety issues, but emotional as well. There is a reason many parents choose not to follow the Ferber or Ezzo methods of IMO selfish and punitive parenting. If you have kids, put their needs first. You'll have time to be selfish when they're..well, at least more than 4 years old! Let the girl be part of the group. They are damaaging her psyche.

avasmommy said...

3F,

You are histerical! I love reading anything you write because it is sucha comedy. You have a great sense of humor and writing style! You should write more for this blog, it seems I am not the only one who is in your fan base ;)

SmartyQ said...

9/17/2008 5:28 PM Anonymous said...
Did anyone else notice that more than once Jon used the term "buy (the animals)?" Like they paid for them?

I did notice that. I noticed they had a shot of Jon paying with plastic, so to speak. He also paid with a credit card at Dick's Sporting Goods last week for their backyard camping adventure. Personally, I think it's more like a business credit card that the production company gave to them to use so it looks like they're not getting as many freebies (damage control).

I noticed that, when Jon 'paid' for the camping equipment, he carefully covered the card with his hand as he handed it to the cashier. I think he didn't want some sharp-eyed person to noticed it was in TLC's and his name.

Chris said...

There are some people in this world who should just not have pets. I put the G's in that category. As a part of G-d's creation animals have certain needs that must be met.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure it was a gift card. TLC is not footing their bill. Everything is in trade. The Gosselins are paid through Figure 8who sells the program to TLC.

Adam Bomb 1701 said...

I stopped watching weeks (or was it months) ago. Why should I watch, when I can read the re-caps here and be better entertained? Plus, watching the show eats up 30 minutes of my life I'll never get back. I've been tempted to watch the episode where Jon gets his hair transplant, but common sense makes me stop. I will watch the episode where Jon grows a spine. If it ever comes to pass.
I've been to Lancaster, Pa. many times, from 1989 through 2005. I know where the "Sight and Sound" theater is. What I didn't know was that the tickets are $54 for adults. Astounding. Except for J&K, for whom it's just another freebie.
If they do get a pet, whether it be a dog or cat, it wil be banished to the pound before you can say "Boo." Because, unlike Jon, the pet won't follow anal Kate's orders blindly.

bri said...

"Sounds like there are some little boys with security issues in this house. I'm sure punishing them for it will do wonders."

You know this part bothered me too for a couple of reasons. Previously they have stated they don't try to get involved with every fight the kids have because that would be all they do. One of the select few occasions I have actually agreed on their parenting strategy- outside of danger and violence, I don't believe parents should overly involve themselves in sibling spats. Let the kids work it out for themselves and don't helicopter parent.

But they choose to freak out about this?? Who the heck cares? Such a trivial, average sibling type of irritation. I believe Kate called it gross or disgusting which I don't get, either- they're siblings, they are already colonized with the exact same germs I assure you.

Oh right, boys are "icky". What in God's green earth possesses this woman to say such awful things about her boys? IMO it's one of the worst things about the show. I feel terrible for those boys, they are CLEARLY second class family members where Kate is concerned.

FIONA said...

I also don't recall Kate or Jon saying that it was Alexis' "idea" to sleep in the basement. I believe Kate stated something along the lines that they have her sleep there because she is a night-owl AND on this episode they were reiterating the fact that she enjoys it.

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Well you should know that us "bloggers" heard Jon and Kate BOTH say that it was Alexis' idea to sleep in the basement. They do a super job of lying and then changing their story. Surely you know that by now! :)

Anonymous said...

There are some people in this world who should just not have pets. I put the G's in that category. As a part of G-d's creation animals have certain needs that must be met.

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And there are some people in this world who should just not have children.

Katie D said...

Smartyq said "I noticed that, when Jon 'paid' for the camping equipment, he carefully covered the card with his hand as he handed it to the cashier. I think he didn't want some sharp-eyed person to noticed it was in TLC's and his name."

Or he didn't want the possibility that the camera could film the number. People have access to the raw footage so maybe he just didn't want someone to zero in on the number and steal it. Seems a reasonable explanation to me.

Anonymous said...

Basement, dungeon, 4th bedroom, whatever, it's not the name that bothers. It's the location/risk (far away from everyone else) , the age of the "criminal" (4 years old!! HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO), and the reasoning behind their ( NOT ALEXIS') decision to put her there.

The basement is closer to the parent's room than the other three bedrooms. Their room is right off the hallway that the basement door is in. The other kids all would have to walk down the stairs, through the living room, through the kitchen, to even get to that hallway. So saying she's so far away is silly. She's RIGHT below them. And if safety is a concern why not be concerned about all the other kids who sleep on a different floor than their parents.

Ilovemykids said...

The basement is closer to the parent's room than the other three bedrooms. Their room is right off the hallway that the basement door is in. The other kids all would have to walk down the stairs, through the living room, through the kitchen, to even get to that hallway. So saying she's so far away is silly. She's RIGHT below them.

What if there is a fire in the kitchen, J&K's bedroom, the living room? How does Alexis escape? There do not appear to be any windows in the basement.

avasmommy said...

Here's something I just remembered....J&K didn't want to take the family to the movies because of the expense that it would be. I'm willing to bet that movie theatre tickets are A LOT cheaper than theatre tickets. Now of course we all know that theatre or movie theatre, J&K are not paying a dime. However, some viewers are still not aware of the lies. wonder if any of them caught this?

Anonymous said...

I feel very defeated. How about any of you? I was energized with Jodi confirming things on her video but we all knew that Kate was horrible without Jodi's confirmation. Kate is being rewarded and she is just plain and simply a yucky person. And because the kids are so darn cute, I just can't help but watch every week. I want to hold up a piece of black paper and block out Kate's face everytime it is shown. I think it is disgusting when we have someone like Oprah who is trying to educate America by helping all of us to be better human beings, and then we have this spoiled rotten, narcisstic, arrogant, know-it-all, Playing victim, fake plaintiff, gross human being, i.e. Kate Gosselin, who is charged with the raising of these 8 kids, and who treats her husband like dirt, like total dirt and gets by with it week after week after week and who is getting rich. What redeeming value is being shown to our country? Television is just crap for the most part, but some intelligent people try to make this a better world. What is anyone learning from Kate Gosselin? All these teenagers who love her so much who are going to grow up treating their husband like crap and thinking they are cute? I cannot stand this woman and I am defeated because I want to watch the kids. I have written to TLC to ask them to please stop focusing on these idiotic parents and just show the kids playing and interacting, but we keep seeing mopheaded shiny nose wicked witch of Pennsyvlania blowing her smoke into America's living rooms every week.

ThreeFarmers said...

I've been tempted to watch the episode where Jon gets his hair transplant, but common sense makes me stop. I will watch the episode where Jon grows a spine. If it ever comes to pass.


The hairplug epi is the worst episode in the history of episodes. Not just J&K+8, all television shows in the history of television shows. It's worst than Geraldo opening Al Capone's vault. It's worse than the entire Punky Brewster series. It's even worse than the worst of the worst episodes of Happy Days when Fonze jumped the shark tank on his motorcycle. (Hence the phrase "jumped the shark" for those unfamiliar with the reference.)

You remember that show that was so bad that you can't even remember not watching it because it was so bad? The hairplug episode is worse than that.

Anonymous said...

Alexis may know what "nervous" feels like - could it be from being in the basement alone. Do they shut the door to the basement so they can't hear her if she calls out to them?

Fidelia said...

I'm sorry - I cannot read all the comments upline from mine because my eyes are completely teared up from laughing sooooo hard! This is one of the funniest commentaries on a show that I have ever read!!

Whoever is responsible for this - my medical bills are in the mail but please, please write more often. I'll risk the ruptured aorta.

Fidelia

Anonymous said...

It's even worse than the worst of the worst episodes of Happy Days when Fonze jumped the shark tank on his motorcycle. (Hence the phrase "jumped the shark" for those unfamiliar with the reference.)

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I thought the Fonze water-skied over the sharks in Hawaii?

Paula S said...

" All these teenagers who love her so much who are going to grow up treating their husband like crap and thinking they are cute? "

This is something that baffles me. I am on another board and Kate's staunchest supporters are teenaged girls. I just don't understand why. Her next staunchest group of supporters seems to be women who are unable to have children of their own. I just don't understand what these two groups fascinations are with her.

ThreeFarmers said...

Was it water skis? Coulda been. He jumped over sharkes with something in either Hawaii or California.

The hairplug epi was worse than that.

ThreeFarmers said...

So close, Twinner. You need to replace all your [ and ] with < and > and you will have it.

Also, the preview button is handy.

Anonymous said...

Here is a link to what I think is a pretty good comment.


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/645743/jon_kate_plus_8_kate_was_wrong.html?cat=39

hellokitty said...

In reference to "Kate's Recipes".

Close sandwich and cut into triangles.

We all know that this whole article is a joke, but come on. If you need directions to "close a sandwich"...

CookSpot said...

To whomever offered these people a dog...please reconsider and don't do it.

I am involved in dog rescue and one thing we rarely do is let a dog go to a family with children under 8 years old. Reason being is that by and large, young children, like the tups, sometimes have difficulty realizing that an animal is a living, breathing, feeling creature and at times can confuse it with a toy and do great harm.

Not to mention, but these children are constantly pushing, punching and hitting each other. NOT a good environment for the dog.

From what I've seen on this show, the Gosselins would never "pass" our home visit.

Personally I would not trust that woman, Kate, with any animal.

The only pet that would be safe in this house is a Pet Rock, if they still sell them.

LFWH said...

Anonymous said...
Ok, everyone. Just so nobody misses it: anon posted this in the "Gosselin Family Sightings" column, but I thought that it may get lost because it isn't in the most recent entry.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/recipe-exchange/recipe-exchange/2008/09/school-lunches-advice-from-an-expert-kate-gosselin-mother-of-8/


Look at the link and then look at all the comments. Incredible!

Wow!! Thanks for posting that link!! Great reading. The author of the article certainly took some lumps over the recipes. And did you just love how they had those instructions on how to place the sandwich contents on the bread, in order and even instructions on how to cut the bread. Wow, condescending much?

Anonymous said...

CookSpot said...
To whomever offered these people a dog...please reconsider and don't do it.


Not to mention, but these children are constantly pushing, punching and hitting each other. NOT a good environment for the dog.


I couldn't agree more. They were never held accountable for that behavior so the kids don't realize it's wrong because their parents never took the time to enforce consequences for that bahavior. I would be very afraid for a puppy in that environment. A bigger dog may not tolerate the hitting and pushing and screaming and either run away or much worse, bite the kids.

Anonymous said...

Hi All` Glad that I can come to this site to get the latest Gosselin info...but the best decision I have made of late is to pull the plug on this show because like most here I was only viewing to see the kids, but then it dawned on me that I had no right to see these kids living their day-to-day lives. In a way, my viewing was supporting the exploitation of the kids and I certainly wanted none of that...and I certainly was not interested in watching neither the dysfunctional mother nor complacent father. My hope is that treatment is rendered quickly and familial fences are mended ASAP. The kids deserve to live their lives free of all of us (and in a fully functional household with 2 parents operating on all cylinders).

ThreeFarmers said...

The kids deserve to live their lives free of all of us (and in a fully functional household with 2 parents operating on all cylinders).

Kate is the Yugo in the world of all-cylindered parents. Jon, the Pinto -- Runs ok, but when you hit him from behind, he explodes.

Ravello said...

"Anonymous said...
Threefarmers: I'm no Kate fan, but I watched that special and was surprised at how well Kate took the "incident" (Alexis taking off her dirty diaper in the crib). She didn't yell or scream, and they showed her giving Alexis a bath. She was talking sweetly to her in the tub.
______
Yes, I remember this from the special as well. Here is what I believe is the reason Kate took the "incident" so well: Alexis was still a baby back then. Kate liked and tolerated the kids better when they were babies (china dolls). The older they get and the more they individuate, the more Kate dislikes them and finds them annoying and distasteful. Classic narcissist behavior."

Agree with the previous comments I pasted above. Also Kate was able to sanitize her behavior and attitude when they filmed the specials. Limited camera time compared to now. We saw the real shrewish Kate when the film schedule picked up. She is not a nice person, she was never a nice person.
She loves being a mother for the secondary gains and recognition. She loved her baby girls.
She still loves Hannie and Leah, the tups who came home from the hospital first. She bonded with them as a second set of twins. Then the others came home, 3 of them were boys and she wasn't interested.
I think Kate loves Alexis, the prettiest girl who looks like her mother. Again, secondary gains.

ThreeFarmers said...

For all of you who have problems with Judith Evan's column in the St. Louis Post Dispatch, here is her direct email address.

jevans@post-dispatch.com

I recommend that you use it. However, the chances of your email being read will increase if you keep your messages brief and to the point without any harsh language, name calling, etc.

I am.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

In regards to Kate teaming up with Grain Foods Foundation...just another way she is using her children to make money. She is now viewed as an "expert" because she has 8 kids and a TV show. She is America's favorite "super mom" or so they want us to believe. It's such a joke!!

I heard she was paid $25,000 to be the spokesperson for the P&G Pur Water campaign. That deal was done without her manager. When the manager came on board, Kate was supposedly told that she's worth at least 3 times that much, so I wonder how much she got to team up with Grain Foods Foundation?

hellokitty said...

pullthegosselinplug--I just went to it too. I don't understand why on Alexis's page there's a Vegas type sign that reads "Welcome to Fabulous Hotel Life". What is that about?

Let's see how long it takes to change it...

(I put this under the Website discussion, but I don't know if anyone still goes there.)

Anonymous said...

The Vegas sign must be gone but my what cute things each page says for each child.
I love how one of them sneaks down stairs it says LOL.

Jennifer said...

She is now viewed as an "expert" because she has 8 kids and a TV show.

I find this so, so strange. Do any of these people holding her up as a paragon of parenting ever even *watch* the show? It's so clear from watching even a few episodes that she's sorely lacking key parenting skills. If you watch them all, it becomes very apparent that she's actually a *bad* mother. (I know many people like to offer the "nobody's perfect" defense in support of Kate's parenting, but for me, it goes way beyond that--we all make mistakes and we all have moments of stress, but Kate, in my opinion is actually a consistently bad parent. If I were to rewatch all the episodes, I could come up with a list a mile long with evidence to support this perception.)

So ironic that she's making her living as being the mother of many when so clearly her mothering skills suck!

momof5 said...

I too found the link to the "healthy lunches article" this morning and I was so impressed with all of the comments on the article. It would seem that people are less and less fooled by the "perfect mom" depiction of Kate. I found myself wondering how her sandwich recipes were supposed to be original? I think most of us have been making them for years!

Ilovemykids said...

I can make a mean peanut butter and banana sandwich. Do you think I can submit it and be called a "super mom"? LOL.

Anonymous said...

Kate seems to forget while living in her greed infested narcissistic world that generations of mothers have existed long before her. Mothers that have prepared many a sandwich and have even, on occassion, cut out the bread in the shape of a cookie cutter. Generations of women that have worked full time outside the home and yet found the time to prepare and home cooked healthy meal for their family. It's not enough that J & K Gosselin insult the entire working class population with their so called 'reality tv show' but Kate is now dumbing down all the mothers out there with her 'expert' instruction on how to prepare a ham sandwich on whole grain bread. Give it a rest already Kate, you arent the first and certainly wont be the last as my grandmother had 13 children and 92 years under her belt! You are nothing but a mere novice in comparison to her expertise and others like her.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, about the "recipes" - I am so glad Kate told us to close the sandwich or put another piece of bread on top! Wow, how original and innovative for a sandwich recipe. I would have been standing around my kitchen with all of these extra slices of bread, just scratching my head about what to do with them!

The above comment - too funny!! I vote for comment of the week!!!!

Paula S said...

" I heard she was paid $25,000 to be the spokesperson for the P&G Pur Water campaign. "

There was a link posted somewhere on GWoP of Kate doing a promotional commercial or something. I can't find the link now. Can anyone post it for me. Thanks.

ThreeFarmers said...

This morning, I sent an email to Judith Evans, Food Editor of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and got an almost immediate response from her. I hope her response stresses the importance of sending email written in a civil manner.
Below is what I sent and what was sent in return... except I deleted my name. I don't want any psycho witch hunt crazies calling my house.

Dear Ms. XXXX,

Thank you for your thoughtful -- and civil -- note. I appreciate the feedback.
Thanks also for reading the Post-Dispatch and STLtoday.


Judith Evans
Food Editor
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
900 North Tucker Boulevard
St. Louis, Mo. 63101

314-340-8235

Blog: www.STLtoday.com/recipeexchange


________________________________

From: XXX XXXX mailto:threefarmers@lycos.com]
Sent: Fri 9/19/2008 9:14 AM
To: Judy Evans
Subject: Kate Gosselin column


Ms. Evans,

I am a St. Louis area native and resident and a long-time reader of the Post-Dispatch. Over the years I have often prepared meals and snacks from recipes or tips found in the paper. While I don't normally write letters regarding things I see in the paper, I was compelled to speak out on your choice to feature Kate Gosselin in a recent column.

The fact that the recipes were rather sophomoric notwithstanding, I find it troubling that the Post would choose to promote a woman who, along with her husband, is openly exploiting their young children on national television. Tell me. Would you photograph your toddler in the shower, on the potty, or in only a pair of underwear and put that on television or on the internet? (They are all over You Tube with videos placed by TLC.) They are using their children as the sole means of support of that family. The children have no rights because children in entertainment are excluded from child labor laws and Pennsylvania does not have any laws regulating children in entertainment.

Children need privacy. Their personal moments and emotional outbursts are not for the public to see and, in the case of the Gosselins, their home isn't a place for them to be away from the camera's lens. These kids have no say regarding what is filmed. Their parents allow the cameras to film the sextuplets and the twins during moments when they are at their worst. How would you like it if someone did that to you?

You don't have to believe me, but I would encourage you to visit http://www.minorcon.org.

A Minor Consideration is a advocacy group dedicated to protecting child performers. They were a major player in the cancellation of the Kid Nation fiasco that took place last year. It is headed by Paul Petersen, a former child star from The Donna Reed Show. They have come out strongly against Jon & Kate + 8.

I am so disappointed that you chose to support a couple who makes such questionable decisions regarding their family. You're a journalist to whom I assume the facts are important, so I hope after doing a bit more research, you will no longer promote the Gosselins in such an irresponsible manner. Thank you.

Sincerely,

xxx xxxx
Illinois

Paula S said...

" Thank you for your thoughtful -- and civil -- note. "

Could this imply that she has been getting uncivil notes?

Anonymous said...

We will all know the truth about everything when VH 1 does the "Behind the Music" episode for the Gosslin's children. Then Kate can write her own book on Motherhood just like Lynn Spears.

Anonymous said...

Perfect letter - to the point - shows you are a regular reader and that you know what you're talking about. Seems like maybe she got a lot of letters and some not so civil? Either way I hope she prints something about what you all wrote (or do I?)

avasmommy said...

For as well written and inciteful as your email was, you should have gotten something more in response than a friggin' thank you! I wish she would elaborate on why she DID choose Kate to write an article on.....or maybe SHE didn't choose Kate, maybe Figure 8 chose Mrs. Evans?!

ThreeFarmers said...

Could this imply that she is getting uncivil notes?

I believe it does. Which is disappointing to me.

The media will be the key to the Gosselins downfall. Once more respectable news outlets start getting wind of what is going on, they will question their decisions to run anything that is designed to promote the Gosselin machine. That is the point at which they may decide to do a little digging themselves and perhaps help uncover the truth.

Whenever you are writing directly to a tv station, newspaper, radio station, or magazine, you have to position yourself as an advocate, not as an irate customer. We are not the crazies. The crazies are the supporters who think it's ok to show images of young children in the shower or on the potty.

Save your ire for the message boards, but use respect and even-handedness when contacting the media. The media will choose sides, eventually.

Anonymous said...

I noticed in the "healthy lunches article" comments section someone said the 4 yr olds are attending preschool in the afternoons 3 days a week. Kate's not very smart or she would have sent them in the morning and then they would have been tired enough for a 3 hr. nap in the afternoon and then they go to bed at 7 - oh my the whole days over and she has hardly had to deal with them all day.

Anonymous said...

Bravo, Three Farmers for your great email to the St. Louis Post. We can use that as a "working template" to other people we need to contact.

ThreeFarmers said...

As food editor, Ms. Evans could nix anything Figure 8 or the Gosselins wanted her to publish. I doubt this level of promotion has any thing do to with Figure 8. This is from the Gosselins and whoever is handling their management and publishing.

hellokitty said...

hellokitty said...
pullthegosselinplug--I just went to it too. I don't understand why on Alexis's page there's a Vegas type sign that reads "Welcome to Fabulous Hotel Life". What is that about?

Let's see how long it takes to change it...


Didn't take too long because it is now a suitcase. :P

ThreeFarmers said...

For as well written and inciteful as your email was, you should have gotten something more in response than a friggin' thank you! I wish she would elaborate on why she DID choose Kate to write an article on...

I don't know that she wrote it. I just know that she chose to run it. Stuff like that comes to a newspaper often already written or a staff member could have written it. (Yes, I spent about 20 years working in media.. mostly newspaper and radio.)

I'm not bothered at all by the brevity of her response. She doesn't owe me any explanation. To me the rapidness of her email shows how much she appreciated it. Don't you open and respond to the email that is most important to you first? I sure do. The fact that she knew it was civil shows that she read the thing, too.

I'm thinking she got a few nasty notes as well. I wonder how she thanked them?

ThreeFarmers said...

hellokitty said...
pullthegosselinplug--I just went to it too. I don't understand why on Alexis's page there's a Vegas type sign that reads "Welcome to Fabulous Hotel Life". What is that about?

Let's see how long it takes to change it...

Didn't take too long because it is now a suitcase. :P


Are they trying to convince everyone now about how much the children love to travel?

Note to K&J: The children will love to be anywhere that you are because children love to be with their parents. They will agree to anything you want them to because children love to please their parents.

You aren't convincing anyone of anything other than the fact that you're shitty at marketing.

Any advertising or PR professional would know that you don't launch a website until it is ready. You most definitely don't launch a website will spelling and grammatical errors. Baby talk is a lousy idea, too. You also aren't going to win any favors with the folks who notice that they icky boys routinely get less favorable treatment than the girls by preparing the girls' websites first.

Your website is actually a good way for you to present your "side" of the story, yet all you do is prove again and again that all the negativity surrounding you is true.

There, stick that in your Love Offering basket.

ettie said...

hellokitty said...
pullthegosselinplug--I just went to it too. I don't understand why on Alexis's page there's a Vegas type sign that reads "Welcome to Fabulous Hotel Life". What is that about?

Let's see how long it takes to change it...

Didn't take too long because it is now a suitcase. :P

OK, that's a little scary! Collin's page is up now too, but no Aaden or Joel yet.

Linda said...

Anonymous said...

The Vegas sign must be gone but my what cute things each page says for each child.
I love how one of them sneaks down stairs it says LOL.


Well, we know it's not Alexis sneaking downstairs!

Did anyone else find it interesting that Hannah's individual page was several chapters long...

Did anyone else enjoy Chapter 1 of Hannah's

Anonymous said...

Great Recap!
thanks for the funnies. I wonder how long it'll take before they do get that STANDARD POODLE. lol

Anonymous said...

Maybe Alexis enjoys hotel life because she has her own private hotel room in the basement!

mlt said...

Will the new dog have to wear booties in the house like the camera man?!???

No, seriously think about the logistics of having a dog with a self professed germaphobe. Would one of the less favored tups be the official dog foot washer when he/she comes in after being outside? Kate is so assbackwards in that she wants before she thinks. Also, I hope and pray that they do not lock the basement door when Alexis is down there obviously like someone mentioned in an above post she can climb if not hurdle a gate and the idea that the door is locked fills me with terror but it is such a Kate thing to do to not think of the consequences of a fire, etc. Do you remember how on the Sara Snow episode how the kids were frantically knocking on the kitchen door to be let in from the outside - Sara looked disgusted that the children were locked out of the house she also appeared to not like Kate. I have liked Sara ever since.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, the KON family doesn't celebrate Halloween but they have no problem going on Access Hollywood to model Disney Halloween costumes. Another freebie.

jmurphy75 said...

threefarmers - I hope you don't mind that I had to laugh when you wrote

"You most definitely don't launch a website will spelling and grammatical errors."

I do realize a website is more important than the comment section here but if I was going to make a comment like that, I would definitely make sure there are no spelling or grammatical errors in it. (LOL)

jmurphy75 said...

What do you mean they don't celebrate Halloween? There have been pictures of them in costumes since their first Halloween. They were all dressed in pumpkins! (LOL) And another episode was showing them carving pumpkins. How is it they should be celebrating it?

ThreeFarmers said...

I do realize a website is more important than the comment section here but if I was going to make a comment like that, I would definitely make sure there are no spelling or grammatical errors in it. (LOL)

You most certainly are correct! The question is, would the Gosselin proofreaders have caught my mistake?

Touché

Kristee said...

Whoa, that has got to be a record! Lexi's page had that nasty Vegas sign on one minute, then POOF it's turned into a suitcase.

Yeah, sure you don't read the blogs Jon boy. How bout you keep telling yourself that. I hope he realizes how much help we have all been in fixing his website. Do you think he'll give Gwop a shout out and thank you in next week's devotional story?

Anonymous said...

"Any advertising or PR professional would know that you don't launch a website until it is ready."

Seriously. Why even present a family website for public viewing when the website is incomplete and revised for various reasons every 5 minutes? It was my understanding that J & K presented this website as an accurate representation of the Gosselin family however it appears that they are accessing the very source of information (internet blogs)that they claim to be 'untrue', unless approved by them, and using that information to revise their website. If J & K dont pay attention to negativity , why are they paying so much attention to what is being said on blog sites such as GWOP and making changes to their website accordingly?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, the KON family doesn't celebrate Halloween but they have no problem going on Access Hollywood to model Disney Halloween costumes.

What do you mean they don't celebrate Halloween? There have been pictures of them in costumes since their first Halloween. They were all dressed in pumpkins! (LOL) And another episode was showing them carving pumpkins. How is it they should be celebrating it?

I think the comment refers to an "inside" report of "don't ask me what happened on Halloween".

The incident was never fully disclosed, but alluded that trick or treaters were not welcome at the Gosselin house.

ThreeFarmers said...

The incident was never fully disclosed, but alluded that trick or treaters were not welcome at the Gosselin house.

Yeah, I think that has more to do with the Gosselins not wanting to be barraged with people at their doorstep rather than any religious belief. Although, they may be playing the God card here, it's disingenuous.

Anonymous said...

I've never posted a comment here but read all the time. Something struck me about this episode that displays, once again, Kate's disdain for her boys, Joel in particular. When Jon and Kate were telling about what animals each child chose, Jon said Joel was the smartest because he chose, I believe, a penguin, and since it came with a baby penguin he actually got two animals. Kate said something along the lines of aww, Joel loves penguins, and then muttered very quietly "but I wouldn't say he was the smartest." I wasn't sure if I heard correctly so I had to have my husband rewind it 3 times and that is most definately what she said. I guess it is just typical Kate, can't let poor little Joel have even a little positive recognition. Joel reminds me in some ways of my 3 1/2 year old son and I am constantly telling him how smart/funny he is, even though he frustrates me to no end sometimes. Kids need praise, even icky boys!

Anonymous said...

Aaden and Joel's pages are up now. Don't know how long they have been though.

K.C. said...

Anonymous said...

KC -

Can you tell me what topic that post at Pennmommy is under? Thanks for posting here - I missed it! I think Julie clearly states her reasons for the blog, and I appreciate Julie sharing the other side of the story.


It's under Blog Entry: Questions and Answers

Anonymous said...

Yes, Kate had to put down Joel about not being the smartest. Who is she kidding? She lucked into something because she had the tenacity to find docs to go out of protocol twice and give her fertility treatments. This is not a smart woman. She is not cultured, she is gracious and she is not intelligent. How dare she keep attacking those little boys in her sarcastic and obnoxious way. The woman never stops talking.

Happened to see on TLC over the last couple days a real push on Kon's show with Kate saying "HOney" on the couch and Jon saying "Yes, cupcake" or some-such thing. Showing the kids almost deliriously happy over something and Kon themselves looking like they'd each emptied a prozac bottle. What the heck is TLC thinking? Cram it down the viewers' throats and hope it takes?

Anonymous said...

"Jon said Joel was the smartest because he chose, I believe, a penguin, and since it came with a baby penguin he actually got two animals. Kate said something along the lines of aww, Joel loves penguins, and then muttered very quietly "but I wouldn't say he was the smartest." I wasn't sure if I heard correctly so I had to have my husband rewind it 3 times and that is most definately what she said"

You are totally right! After reading this I went and checked out the episode on you tube. Kate did say "I wouldn't say he was the smartest". It sounds muffled, but that is what she said.
Its a sad day when a mothers self esteem is so low, she must put down her four year old son to make herself feel better.

I want to take the time to thank this blog for opening my eyes to Jon and Kate Gosselin. Three days ago, I was reading through the TWOP board finding it closed, looked for another board. One of the first blogs I came across included Aunt Jodi's video. Jodi confirmed to the people that everything her sister blogged about Kate and Jon were true. What was true?! I read through her sisters board and was devistated by what I found.
To make a long story short. I will no longer DVR the Gosselins. The Gap and Gymboree where I have dropped thousands of dollars, will no longer see my hard earned money.

Anonymous said...

Anon here: I meant to say Kate is NOT gracious. Lordy be, I've got to start proofing my postings.

Chris said...

The Gap and Gymboree where I have dropped thousands of dollars, will no longer see my hard earned money.
-----------

I stopped buying at Gap awhile ago because of this show/Kate Gosselin. I never cared for Gymboree clothing, so I never bought from there, but I did write a letter to Gap. I also stopped watching this show along time ago but will admit I enjoy reading the snark here at this blog. Can't wait to hear from you all when the show is finally cancelled.

Anonymous said...

Something struck me about this episode that displays, once again, Kate's disdain for her boys, Joel in particular. When Jon and Kate were telling about what animals each child chose, Jon said Joel was the smartest because he chose, I believe, a penguin, and since it came with a baby penguin he actually got two animals. Kate said something along the lines of aww, Joel loves penguins, and then muttered very quietly "but I wouldn't say he was the smartest."

did she really? gosh that is just sick. imagine if Jon was talking about Hannah or one of the other girls...Kate would never say something like that if it were that case. to Kate boys and men are dumb, gross, unintelligent creatures. she doesn't deserve sons.

Anonymous said...

To pp~ Yes, Kate does have the habit of saying certain things over and over again(i.e. icky boys, the leader, wild one, rare treat, low blood sugar,etc.) Maybe she's trying to convince the public, but imho I think Kate thinks if she says things repeatedly, they all of a sudden become fact. This behavior annoys me because it's so contrary to what is being shown on the tv (at least when I was still viewing.)

Hey Kate~ The viewing public appreciates and enjoys ALL of your kids, not just "CERTAIN" ones. Each one has delightful and wonderful qualities, and if Joel got a 2for1 at the theater he was, indeed, the smartest one that day. Thank you Jon for recognizing and acknowledging Joel and his bright awareness. Kate, you need some parenting classes among many other things.

lifeoriley said...

Although I didn't hear it on the episode, I can totally see Kate saying "maybe not the smartest one" about Joel. Her singling out of certain of her kids for derisve comments is something that has always bothered me. Aside from the fact that they are robbing their kids of a normal childhood, IMO, this is the issue that bothers me most about the show.
I can imagine years from now, some of the kids watching DVDs of their show and being hurt by what their mother (and sometimes father) says about them. On national TV. To millions of viewers. At least J&K won't be able to deny their behavior--it's on video, dvd, etc. I can, however, imagine them brushing off hurt feelings (someone else's) and saying something like "ooh Joel (or whomever) you're sooooo sensitive! It was only a joke!"
I'm not saying that they don't love all of their children--I think deep down they do--I just think they need to stop and realize the long term effect their words will possiblby have on their kids someday.

ThreeFarmers said...

I'm not saying that they don't love all of their children--I think deep down they do--I just think they need to stop and realize the long term effect their words will possiblby have on their kids someday.

I agree that they love their kids. They are just so insensitive to the fact that those kids will be able to watch what their parents said about them.

It is so wrong to pigeon-hole a kid like that. Particularly while their so young. One of the smartest kids I went to school with ended up living in a trailer outside of town and does odd jobs around town.

Another girl who dropped out of school, got her GED and put herself through college. She moved to California and now has a Doctorate and is a professor at one of the state colleges out there. (I don't remember which one.)

I bet we all know people who we grew up with who ended up being someone entirely different than what their personality may have indicated when they were children.

I was an extremely shy kid. So much so, that a teacher once told my parents that I was so withdrawn that I would never be able to interact socially. By the time I graduated high school, I was voted most talkative and class clown.

Poor Joel, the only thing we know for sure is that he's probably smarter than both his parents combined.

Anonymous said...

OMG Liforiley, Your post. was. spot. on. imho.Yes, #1 priority stop the exploitation. Next stop the favoritism and mean spirited comments. Kate, that nursing home is going to be a lonely place in 50 years...you'll only have yourself and your past behavior to blame. It's not too late to stop the bleeding and get some help.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Kate certainly brushes off other people's feelings as if they don't exist, don't really matter. But my goodness, after all the stuff she has said to and about Jon on TV she had the unmitigated nerve to complain, amost in tears it seemed, that he had once told her to - gasp - "pull the stick out". OMG!

Remember that we have seen her belittling and badgering the kids and Jon, and then when Jon makes even a face of discontentment Kate says things like "Are you going to ruin today? We just want to have a nice day". WTH?

I went onto the IMDB, I think it was, board to see what had been written about the couple running into Kon this weekend after their speaking engagement, but couldn't find it. Could someone provide a specific link to that message?

kelly said...

I was watching the episode the other day of the one where they have the pinic at cocoa castle. Just a thought for kate on how she is really contradicting herself. In the episode, they are playing on playground and she made the comment that because the kids were grown together they dont know how to be alone. She also said that she hopes that it will stay that way when the are growing up and that they will always love each other. She needs to realize what she said and take a page out of her own book. How does she expect them to learn this, when all they see from J&K is the exact opposite? Maybe Kate needs to "wake up" (as she often says) and see that she is setting a horrible example as far as treating members of their family.

Paula S said...

" I went onto the IMDB, I think it was, board to see what had been written about the couple running into Kon this weekend after their speaking engagement, but couldn't find it. Could someone provide a specific link to that message? "

There are actually three. The first link below is from a woman who sent. The second is from her boyfriend. The third is from another lady who left the boyfriend a message on facebook.

1.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124348/board/flat/117690056

2.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124348/board/flat/117763676

3. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124348/board/flat/117897668

Moons in Leo said...

Thanks Paula S for publishing those links to imdb.

1) Kate has friends? Kate has friends! Even the poster seemed amazed. I'm sure her only friends are the ones in her head who look and sound exactly like her.

2) No charge for admission? No charge for admission! Not everyone put $ in the hat! So there!

3) The kids love that Kon is home all the time? Well, technically they're not home all the time since they travel so much, and now Kate travelling on her own to write her next two books?! Katie Irene ~ War Correspondent? (Oh, how I wish!)

Paula S said...

One poster on IMDB had seen J&K at the speaking engagement that was their excuse for their two week vacation to NC. There was a charge to attend that speaking engagement. A love offering was not collected. Pictures were allowed. That poster reported that J&K were engaging in their presentation. The posters who saw J&K at this recent speaking engagement did not have a charge to attend. There was a love offering collected. These posters reported that J&K did not seem like they wanted to be there.

So, it seems that the guarantee of a $$$$ makes for a happier J&K and therefore a better presentation.

Phony anyone? Silly question.

Ruthe said...

QUOTED FROM ABOVE POST
"As food editor, Ms. Evans could nix anything Figure 8 or the Gosselins wanted her to publish. I doubt this level of promotion has any thing do to with Figure 8. This is from the Gosselins and whoever is handling their management and publishing."

We also have to remember that some of the same companies that sponsor J&K+8 may be also be advertising with some of these media outlets, whether it be television or print.

We may never hear a bad word about the G's from them, and may even promote the G's further because of their sponsors.

Ruthe said...

After trying to understand some of the mumblings Kate makes, I've taken to watching J&K+8 with my closed captioning on.

I've noticed that the comments about "getting a baby" from the NICU episode were not captioned, which struck me as odd, because even unintelligible mutterings are captioned on most other television shows.

Considering all the comments they make to/about each other and the children, TLC must really edit those closed captioned remarks like crazy.

God bless the poor person who has to type all of Kate's blatherings an her made-up words.

Anonymous said...

Gosselin Family in Review (based on recorded, written and published accounts)

John=lack of ambition
Kate=lack of coping mechanisms

Infertility txms under 25 years of age

Beautiful twin girls-not enough for 1 parent

Infertility txms again

Sextuplets produced- "we never thought we'd have this many."

no jobs, no insurance

community, family, friends and the state of PA rally and provide:
services, supplies, food and finances....not enough to satisfy above parents; parents take to the churches for love offerings.

The family is shopped to the media circuit and press by 1 parent.

They hit the TLC jackpot

dad is miserable
mother is still unhealthy as evidenced by her actions and statements.

twins are unhappy

tups are working hard both on the camera and off to catch up to their same aged peers in order to prepare for Kindergarten. FYI, when educating parents of preterm infants at discharge our rule of thumb is, even the most premature infants will be caught up by age 3 and the vast majority by age 2. These 6 should certainly be on the same developmental level as their full term counterparts.

Minor children are cuurently supplying 80% of the Gosselin Family income.

Is this scenario acceptable by any one's standard? Are the parents functioning as typical parents would function? Is this a healthy environment in which to rasie happy, healthy children to become successful, healthy, contributing adults? Please stop this show now.

Anonymous said...

They showed the episode I hadn't seen before where Joel, I think it was, was at the steps of the pool and his bathing suit was riding down. Apparently the cameraman thought that was cute enough to keep on the screen for a while and we were all outraged by that indignity done to Joel. Well, in this rerun that shot is no longer there. How very odd.

kelly said...

I swear this is the only show, that I have noticed, that the re-runs are edited. IMO its like they show the episode, J&K read blogs, then decide to take things out. I wonder how much they spend on re-edited episodes.

mlou said...

"I swear this is the only show, that I have noticed, that the re-runs are edited. IMO its like they show the episode, J&K read blogs, then decide to take things out. I wonder how much they spend on re-edited episodes."

As many things Kon does badly, they need to edit their lives and get rid of their show and get some serious counseling.

Anonymous said...

kelly said...
"I swear this is the only show, that I have noticed, that the re-runs are edited. IMO its like they show the episode, J&K read blogs, then decide to take things out. I wonder how much they spend on re-edited episodes."

So much for J & K documenting the 'good, bad, and ugly' of their day to day life. Seems much of the 'ugly' has gone mysteriously missing from the re runs of particular episodes. Editting out the 'ugly' does not make it non existant or disappear. There would be no need to edit if it never existed to begin with. IMO, much of J & K's current reality involves damage control, editting out the past, appeasing the 'nay sayers', justifying their choices, and lots of excuses.

Anonymous said...

Hey Gosselin Boys,

Good news, with all the editing of recent reruns don't be surprised if your parents whip out and serve you guys those birthday cupcakes!

Anonymous said...

I just read through those links at IMDB that someone above posted. They say that they believe it's God's will that they're doing this, so they're going on doing this, though the people who saw them speak noted uncomfortableness and unhappiness in both of them. Of course I call total b.s. God, human WHOEVER would not want children being exploited on a daily basis like these parents are doing every single day. If anything they are being tested. And they are failing, miserably.

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to say THANK YOU for this blog...it is very eye opening. IMO, this show is somewhat of a combination between the Dionne Quintuplets fiasco and the Truman Show (especially with the new house in NC). I am nauseated that Kate Gosselin treats her husband horrendously and berates friends. I also find it shameful to all men that Jon Gosselin allows Kate to talk to him like that! Most of all, it makes me sick when families of higher order multiples hold out their greedy hands and accept gimmes (and feel the sense of entitlement to do such) because they shunned more responsible forms of fertility treatment or selective reduction (at the risk of their children's development and health) in the name of God. Wake up and smell the roses, Kate and John! Your kids will be in school soon and no longer "cute wittle kids"...your meal ticket will end.

Anonymous said...

oh wow, that's so much better than watching the show. I haven't watched it in a few months because i just cannot stand the two of them. UGH. So, this recap is just THE BEST!! Awesome stuff!! thanks so much!! :)

Jakob's Mommy said...

"It will soon be raining pot bellied pigs and dogs over the Gosselin house soon. I hope they are organic"


at least their food will be! Hmmmm orgnaic dog food?

Anonymous said...

Regarding Alexis sleeping in the basement . . . BIG NO NO! From what I can see there are no windows or exterior doors, heaven for bid if there was a fire. This is why building inspectors do not allow bedrooms in basements without windows.

Trudy said...

I have loved watching the initial seasons (1 & 2) of the Gosselins. I am not aware of any bad/negative comments on Kate/and or Jon.

However, there was a few episodes that left me pretty disturbed and I had gone on the Google Search and typed - Kate Gosselin Nasty Comments.

I am SHOCKED to read so many negative comments !!!

I am not in any position to judge Kate's parenting skills or talk about whether Jon works or not.

However, it is truly disturbing to see Kate always hurling insults at her husband. The worst was at Toy "R" Us. I was very disturbed by the episode.

I understand this is a reality TV but I think as a couple, it's better to thrash things out in private no matter what happens.

It's truly amazing that as a strong Christian woman who has dignity, Kate would yell at her husband in an extremely insulting and mean way on national TV.

The show is aired not only in the US. It's worldwide. Dear Kate, please give your partner some dignity too.

BTW --- I am located in Singapore, and we are watching the Gosselins in South East Asia too.

Anonymous said...

In response to: "It's truly amazing that as a strong Christian woman who has dignity, Kate would yell at her husband in an extremely insulting and mean way on national TV."

While I respect your opinion, I must disagree with your describing Kate as, 'a strong Christian woman who has dignity'. Dignity is certainly not a word I would associate with Kate Gosselin. As her character is not one that represents 'the quality or state of being worthy of respect or esteem'. As for her being a 'strong Christian woman', IMO is subject to much debate.