Dude Ranch and Dress Up Recap

Saddle up partners, and prepare for a rough ride. I decided to do this recap so that Dude Ranches and the good people who run them were not slandered by this episode. It doesn’t look very promising when Kate begins her couch monologue/commentary wearing a low crowned pink cowboy hat that looks like it cost $2.00 from a tourist shop catering to children. However, things weren't as bad as they seemed. continue

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Maggie said...

Saddle up partners, and prepare for a rough ride. I decided to do this recap so that Dude Ranches and the good people who run them were not slandered by this episode. It doesn’t look very promising when Kate begins her couch monologue/commentary wearing a low crowned pink cowboy hat that looks like it cost $2.00 from a tourist shop catering to children. However, things weren't as bad as they seemed.

Kate is taking the boys to a dude ranch in Wyoming, while Jon is at home looking after the girls and playing dress-up. This is not the normal gender roles in the Gosselin world, so someone decided to mix it up a little and let Kate bond with the boys. Would this be a success or a disaster?

Mrs. G. shows up at the ranch in her normal ill advised high heels. One of the boys asks the ranch owner if he is a farmer. Well these are fighting words to a rancher, but fortunately he takes it in good stride and explains the difference between the professions. One of the first adventures will be riding ATV's and Kate sets off with one of the boys at breakneck speed. She "feels the need for speed", I feel the need for her to wear a helmet. They all get turns but are driving too fast in my opinion, oddly Kate doesn't seem concerned. She does let us know that she would really like to drive a racecar (hint, hint), so I suppose we know what lies ahead in a future episode.

Jon and the girls have a nature-themed scavenger hunts where 4 leaf clovers and ladybugs are part of the quarry to be found. It seems to be a tie for first place so I guess everyone got to choose the flavor of ice cream to their liking. Very diplomatic.

Maggie said...

Day 2 finds our posse showing up in newly purchased western duds. Kate is in a brown hat, pink snap button shirt and boots and the boys look like their little cowboy outfits came from some Broadway musical version of "Annie Get Your Gun". The boys hats aren't shaped and appear more like black sombreros than cowboy hats. As a poster here earlier noted, the boys have pretty much covered the Village People costumes. Kate has the string from the hat tightly knotted under her chin, something you won't see a real cowboy or cowgirl do. That is called a suicide string because if your hat gets pulled back or caught, you could be strangled. No one points this out to Kate.

A list of rules is read before they mount their horses, Kate lets us know she isn't fond of rules. She interrupts a few times with her "funnies". Perhaps not the best way to show your children how to respect rules or people in charge. Kate's horse is named Banjo and she apologizes in advance to Banjo for her future screaming .

The boys are very excited and especially fascinated by horse poop. Imagine a fascination with poop in this family. The boy are enjoying everything because the girls aren't there. Kate nervously mounts her horse, shrieking and making the horse more nervous than she is. This is apparently her first time in the saddle, and the way things are looking, it may be her last.

Back in Gosselinville, Jon takes the little girls to the dentist while the twins stay home with a babysitter. He does not tell us whether it is an approved babysitter or not. A trip to the dentist again, why yes indeed. If nothing else the kids will have the best teeth in town. Hannah tells us that she likes giving lots of kisses to daddy. I hope Kate doesn't hear that line. Hannah has no cavities, Alexis one and Leah two. Alexis is jealous that she only has the one cavity. Another fascinating episode of dentistry!

Meanwhile back at the ranch, Kate is riding in the indoor arena and proceeds to tell us that riding a horse is really easy. Walking very slowly indoors in a circle actually is easy but I am not sure that it conveys the entire range of equestrian activities, still, the expert has pronounced. The boys are being led on their horses, much more poop talk both in the arena and in their couch interviews. Kate explains that they talk of poop because they are boys. Personally I think she is more fascinated with poop than they are, and perhaps that is where they picked up the interest.

Later on Kate leaves the boys in the arena to go on a nature ride. She tells us that the scenery is so pretty she could cry. Would this be the type of crying with real tears, or just the Kate looking wistful type of crying? Either way it doesn't happen. Again she informs us how easy it is to ride a horse. I am wondering how tempted one of the crew were to stick a burr under her saddle. The boys are having a wonderful time freeing a goat and then chasing it and torturing kittens. Kate voices that no animals were harmed filming this episode. I would trust that statement more if it came from the ranch owner.

Later on the crew go on a "dangerous and treacherous" hike. They find a mountain lion cave littered with bones. Oh my! Their mother is very proud of the boys because not one of them asks to be picked up. Kate tells us that she works out every day and she was exhausted, but the boys just scampered on. She thinks they have really grown up and she seems to be enjoying the experience.

Jon and the girls make tin can phones, Jon enjoys the scientific aspect of the project. To anyone who may be concerned, we do see the dogs romping around, so I guess one of the crew located the crates and freed them temporarily.

Maggie said...

Whose bright idea was it to let Kate shoot guns? Apparently hers. She has never shot before, but suggests they use tabloid covers as targets as she has a lot of frustration to take out. She really seems to enjoy the shooting, but she is basically shooting at the ground so I have no idea whether she has a shooting talent as well as her horsemanship skills. She is armed and dangerous now, so I hope we never have to find out.

The boys stay behind again to help out in the barn. One of their tasks is to gather eggs. The gathering versus breaking ratio was about even, although I think leaning more to breaking. An indoor "rodeo" was later organized for mom and the boys. Kate has never seen a rodeo but she assumes this is what they do at a real rodeo. I will point out that in the many rodeos I have been to I have yet to witness an egg and spoon race. I still have yet to witness it because it quickly deteriorated into throwing eggs at the camera and the various cowboys. Kate found it all to be a great hoot, however I didn't see any eggs being thrown at her. I bet the boys are too wise for that.

Mady and Cara want to perform a concert and the little girls want to play dress up. Jon says they can do both! Jon is finally coerced into dressing in a woman's white floppy hat, white sunglasses and long pink dress. We are never told who the clothes belong to, I am not sure if he was trying to stick it to Kate or whether the girlfriend/babysitter's things were just picked up off the bedroom floor. He then pretends to be pregnant, and that was a scene I would prefer to forget. Mady and Cara perform their song, which involves Mady singing something and Cara sitting down alternately pretending to play a guitar and doing nothing. The little girls look really cute in their dress up clothes. Jon tells us he really likes being in New York and that looking after children is hard.

It is the final roundup at the ranch and dinner is served at the Road Kill Cantina. I did not make the name up. Kate is given the striker to use in the dinner bell triangle to summon everyone for dinner. She threatens to hit the ranch owner with it. That is her way of joking around, and she tells us that she and the owner joked a lot. She strikes the bell and it is time to "come and get it", or maybe not. She serves the boys chicken feet for dinner. She is yukking and shrieking but serves them nonetheless. I have never in my days heard of eating chicken feet, toenails and all. These ranches cost a fortune and you get chicken feet? She thinks it is disgusting and I have to agree, but then so is that stupid pink cowboy hat that she is now sporting with her sundress and pink cowboy boots.

All in all she declares it a wonderful time, something she never thought she would enjoy. She was pleased to meet her sons again and see what fine young men they have turned into. Being a single mom is sure to give her some exciting new experiences and no doubt TLC will keep twisting and turning the plots to keep us on our toes. I have no desire to watch the race car driving episode, especially considering Kate's alleged driving issues.

AJsMomma said...

This was just painful to watch and re-read.

I would also like to thank Jon for pointing out just how hilarious it was that Alexis was jealous of Leah's 2 cavities. He said something along the lines of "it's not good to have any cavities, so it's HILARIOUS that Alexis was jealous". Wow. Thanks for clearing THAT up. Whew!

I swear Kate is physically unable to interact with her family - all she does it talk to the darn camera people.

And finally...ALL of the things Jon did with the kids were staged. Who made up the scavenger hunt things? Certainly not him. And all of the "dress up clothes" had tags on them still - shoes and all.

Why am I still watching this stupid show???

Kate is a Horse's Ass (No offense to the horsey) said...

Did she really say she was happy to meet her boys again and find out what fine men they have become? (or even something to that effect). I think that, if that was said, it is a telling statement. She is constantly keeping those kids babies, putting them down, mocking them, making their daddy look the fool (even when he isn't trying) and she is now happy to meet them again and find out they are fine men? My thought is that if she left the country and moved to, I don't know, Iran for a while and then came back when the boys are men, that without her influence they might just turn out fine. I'll chip in for the cost of the ticket as long as she agrees to stay there for the next 15 years or so.

She'saPistol said...

I think we all know how Jon now felt about Harpy Kate. I've always wondered what it was that Harpy Kate did off camera while simultaneously shouting instructions to Jon about what he was supposed to do and how bad he was at doing it. Now, all of a sudden, appears Independent Kate, who can actually function (albeit with all that wah wah wah, I'm so stressed junk), High Fashion Bimbo Kate--high heels to the dude ranch and the ever popular, Narcissist Kate(again, let's dress inappropriately for the dude ranch so everyone will pay attention to ME not those, er, kids that keep hangin' around me.

GAmom said...

Didn't watch, but thanks to the reacap we learned, once again, that Kate couldn't risk her life skating with Cara & Jon, due to her kids deep need for her. But she happily speeds on an ATV, gets plastic surgery, and wants to drive a race car? How does anyone not see through this woman..still???

leeroy said...

Kate is a Horse's Ass (No offense to the horsey) said...
Did she really say she was happy to meet her boys again and find out what fine men they have become? (or even something to that effect
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Ok- that was obviously a joke...

aldergator said...

Thanks for the recap. I didn't watch and have not for some time. I am shocked about the cavities. I have 3 teenagers 15,15 and 17. My 15 year old son has 2 cavities(fillings), his twin sister has zero and my 17 year old daughter has one. They are hardly great brushers. I guess it is because they did not grow up on a diet of FREE Juicy Juice.

lifeoriley said...

Caught a few minutes of the egg-throwing while flipping through channels---wha??? Kate thought it was funny for her kids to be throwing eggs at the production crew and at the camera lens. Nice behavior to encourage. I guess it's funny unless someone egged Kate, huh? Then, not so funny, I bet...
The boys could've spooked the horses (sometimes horses can spook over something thrown on the ground) and then they were running around the arena. Also, no helmets on the boys while riding---not safe, IMO.
As for being "pap" free--so what? You've got cameras in your and your sons faces, anyway--what is the difference except you can't control what pics the paps take?
I didn't watch anymore of the show--changed back to what I was originally watching--those few minutes were enough to remind me why I quit watching.

The Juice is Loose said...

JUICE. CAVITIES. SERIOUSLY.

Remember how anal Kate was about brushing? Doesn't matter. Juice has not only been linked to increased cavities, but also childhood obesity.

Ms.Peach said...

From Z on TV, Baltimore Sun:

Jon & Kate: Almost too much to bear these days
Jon and Kate Gosselin really are becoming almost too much to bear.

In Monday night's "Dude Ranch and Dress Up" episode Kate took three of her sons to a dude ranch where they were the only customers, while Jon played "dress up" with the girls at their Pennsylvania "home."

My favorite moment with Jon came when he was sitting on the couch near the end of the episode by himself talking to the camera, and said how well it was working out for him living in New York.

"It's quiet and I can things get done," was one of the things he said he liked about living away from his kids.

But what is it exactly that Jon needs "quiet" for? And what is it that he needs to get "done" again?

Last time I looked, Jon wasn't writing the history of the Roman empire or practicing psychotherapy in a home office so that he would need quiet to get things "done." Jon does nothing. His job is being a TV father on a reality show -- and he is making a hash out of that these days.

What Jon mainly has been doing the last year is running around with women a lot younger than he is and partying on the Riviera. Quiet is not a key component for any of that -- unless you are talking about morning-after hangovers.

And who would have thought we would have to endure a full hour of Kate in various cowboy hats?

I am not going to criticize Kate. I have already dissipated enough frustration, disappointment and anger as to what this show has become by going after Jon in this post.

But how many incredibly expensive trips can Kate take with these kids? Is this the new normal for "Jon & Kate Plus 8" -- Kate takes one or more of the kids to a place most people in the audience could never afford?

If that's the deal, I think TLC might want to consider re-tooling "Jon and Kate" as a high-end, luxury vacation show rather than a family series -- especially a family living the "reality" of lay-off, job-loss America these days.

I also wonder if we are going to see more segments where the worker bees either from TLC or the various luxury vacation spots the Gosselins visit amuse the kids, while Kate goes off by herself with a teacher and learns to ride a horse or shoot or gun.

And what about the egg throwing, with the kids throwing eggs at one of the worker bees? Isn't Kate teaching them well -- point the ship's guns at the photographers and throw eggs at the workers? Even if it is done with an attempt at humor, the message can still take root.

Ride 'em, Kate.
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Wow. I just posted today how the show is more like a vacation show where parents can take their kids (if they can afford it). Glad to see a TV critic views it the same.

Ms.Peach said...

My kids didn't get cavities until they were young teenagers. How can Jon think it's ok to have a few cavities when you are only 5? Parents, avoid Juicy Juice.

moi said...

Hey Kate, that's quite a drag have p-people in your face and in your kids' faces. How intrusive, to have to deal with cameras around all the time! and ...oh wait a minute....

homeschoolin'mom said...

I wouldn't have told Kate about the suicide string either!

I do beg to differ about this being Kate's first time in a saddle. She had one strapped on Jon's back through their whole marriage! I'd say this saddle was just easier to sit on because it didn't collapse under her weight!

cdnmom47 said...

I'm so glad I didn't watch. It sounds painful in the re-cap, so I can only imagine that the real thing was horrendously horrid.

It's time to put an end to this show....and now.

shell said...

It seems to be a tie for first place so I guess everyone got to choose the flavor of ice cream to their liking. Very diplomatic
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except for alexis she was partenered with Jon.

gross whatever those boys were eating last night. It looked like Kate made them eat for the cameras.

Paisley said...

Kate let the kids throw eggs at people? Back when I was in school, some kids decided to egg some other kids. One of the victims got eggshell in his eye and needed very expensive surgery to remove it. His dad sued the parents of the kid who threw the egg and got a huge settlement. Throwing eggs isn't harmless fun.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Maggie said...GREAT recap!! I'm still laughing!

"K8 tells us she's not fond of rules" (of course we all know the unspoken last part of that sentence: "Unless they are MY rules!"

The whole poop fascination - gee, wherever could that possibly come from, with a mother who found a creative new way of showing the world just how literally anal retentive she truly is by sharing with us all her kids' dirty potties over and over again. Eeeew. Another case of no class TMI from J&K+8. (And those poor kids having to get teased by their friends in a few years for those potty scenes. I'm sure they'll really want to thank K8 for sharing this with the public.)

K8 'feels the need for speed' ??? What happened to K8 begrudingly agreeing to ride on the back of an ATV at Beth's house while her husband drove around Beth's fenced acreage? K8 shrieked and carried on as if her very life was in danger... (give me a break)

Ah, but that was K8 Act One. Now, thanks to her crack PR team, we have moved on to Act Two featuring The new! The improved! "Can Do Kate".

Wow, someone thinks viewers are REALLY REALLY dumb.

Maggie, thanks for watching this crud for us - how on earth did you manage to stick it out thru this whole montage of monotony and tedium? We all thank you though for doing it for us. We enjoyed the laughs from your recap!

shell said...

Alexis one and Leah two. Alexis is jealous that she only has the one cavity.
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dont the parents still brush the teeth. My son is 8 and has never had a cavity. this is not the first time these kids have had cavaties.

berrybunch said...

ATTENTION!!! New Kate-ism Alert!!!
"Carcassy" when she was describing the bones in the lions den. Yikes.

Ryan'sMom said...

Thank you, dear woman, for having the patience to sit through this garbage to write the recap. How much coffee did you have to drink to stay awake? I have to say that this sounds like the most boring episode yet - and that's saying a lot!

And no way little ones should be getting cavities with regular dental cleanings, fluoride toothpaste, etc. Unless they are bathing their mouths in sugar all the time. Or organic fluff.

Pa Mom Knows said...

Paisley said:

Kate let the kids throw eggs at people? Back when I was in school, some kids decided to egg some other kids. One of the victims got eggshell in his eye and needed very expensive surgery to remove it. His dad sued the parents of the kid who threw the egg and got a huge settlement. Throwing eggs isn't harmless fun.
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Darn right. A kid here got blasted on Halloween with an egg (three years ago) and still only has partial vision in her eye. I don't think safety is a big thing in the family. We've witnessed too many careless acts there (no helmets, allowing kids to sleep in an unattended van...)

Tired of K8 said...

RE: the kids and the dentists... sorry but my children did not not have cavaties because I didn't let them suck on juicey juice day in and day out.

Re: the episode... who was the ranch so we can email and ask if the animals were harmed?

Apparently Khate doesn't know, and TLC doesn't care, that ATV rides is one of the biggest sources for brain and spinal injuries, as well as just plain death. Oh well... thats' showbiz for ya!

stopthemadness said...

homeschoolinmom says
I do beg to differ about this being Kate's first time in a saddle. She had one strapped on Jon's back through their whole marriage!

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LOL this reminds me of a joke about the minister telling his congreagation that there is no situation that comes up that the Bible doesn't address - the guy raises his hand and says "What about women nagging their husbands?" the minister flips thru and comes to the bit about "And Mary rode Joseph's ass, all the way to Bethlehem" lol

Oh, Lordy be.

stopthemadness said...

My girl had three cavavties at age three because of giving her juice in bottles, with my boys I never did, and it may be a coincidence but they still have no cavaties. She was my first child and when I got her into the dentist they mentioned that of course, so I knew better the second time around.

What's Kate's excuse? She had kids, they knew full well by the time the tups were around that juice is terrible for children's teeth. Is it because it's FREE and they don't buy milk because there's no way to get that ON SALE? This would would take a free poke in the eye, I swear.

Twinner said...

What did Jon's dad do for a living again?.......Oh yeah he was a DENTIST. You would think that the off-spring of a dental health professional would know that sugar gives you cavities.

Sugar Booger said...

Ok, I think Jon and Kate are complete idiots, but sometimes, kids just get cavities... my daughter has had some off and on since she was three... The dentist says it's simply the way her enamel was formed... I am very vigilant about her diet and how much juice she drinks... sometimes it happens!

Ohio Buckeye said...

WHO is giving K8 a gun???! Now THERE's a good idea (not!).

I'd have thought her mouth was weapon enough.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Can you even imagine K8's reaction if it had been JON who allowed the kids to toss eggs???? (I can hear her screaming in outrage at Jon all the way here in Ohio!)

But when K8 does it, it's A-OK.

Life must be good on Planet K8.

Kyla said...

I have no love for Jon and Kate, but cavities don't just come from what you eat and how well you take care of your teeth. A very large part of it comes from genetics. My family (especially me) has ALWAYS been crazy about good dental hygiene and we all have cavities.

PaMa said...

Just checked out the Web page of the dude ranch where the episode was reportedly filmed (Red Reflet Guest Ranch). It appears that it has resort quality accomodations ... heated swimming pool, lighted tennis courts, theater, gym, climbing walls, private hot tubs, steam showers, extensive wine selection, gourmet meals, massages, wireless Internet, deluxe chalets, etc.

I guess Cowgirl Kate wasn't roughing it too much ... only when the cameras were rolling. At about $3,000/person for a week's stay, I can't imagine how thrilled the other ranch guest were to have Kate and her entourage present.

CherylB said...

Well I see Kate is keeping her vacation theme of using food to destroy other peoples property(pudding painting crap on two beach trips). Can you imagine the mess of cleaning eggs out of straw, not to mention the smell.

As usual she can't take one second to teach her children,one of the boys ask what cattle was, She barks cows. She could have took one second to tell him one is a cow and a group of cows is cattle.

I was glad to see the tups wearing tennis shoes to school, they were velcro. These idiots can't take time to teach the children to tie shoes.

Samantha said...

I'm sorry, I have to ask. Maybe it's been answered or talked about already, but do those younger girls not own more than those 2 styles of dresses they were wearing?!?!?! Surely, Khate could swing by a thrift shop and at least spend .25 of their own money on a new shirt or dress for them.

Can it get more boring? said...

First time poster, just gotta say I love the recaps. I thought the show was boring enough when the kids were little and cute. My DD loved the show, I was too bored to watch more than a minute. The recaps are so much more entertaining, and a more efficient use of time, than actually watching the show or even recording it and fast-forwarding past the commercials and couch time of parental units.

poorkids said...

CherylB said...

"As usual she can't take one second to teach her children,one of the boys ask what cattle was, She barks cows."

It was the same thing when they were at the lion cave. Aaden asked, "What's a elk." Kate, an animal. Aaden, "What kind of animal." Kate, Big animal. Granted, Kate probably doesn't know what an elk is, but come on. Show a little enthusiasm for your son's interests.

She finally explained a bit about the bones, probably after being prompted by the production crew. She had the dreaded pink phone in her hand as she demonstrated on her bod how big the skeleton was. How's the reception up there Kate...thought you were roughen it.

One more thing we never see Steve, the bodyguard, but why was he there in the middle of nowhere, was he protecting her from the mountain lions?

Seriously Annoyed said...

Okay, I'm sorry but this episode was like a bad wreck - you want to look away but you can't. I'm a Texas girl, and by that I mean a country Texas girl. My family owns a ranch, and no I don't walk around in boots and cowboy hats all the time (actually almost never). Kate looked more like a rodeo clown that a cowgirl. I mean she looked ridiculous, and the sad part is I don't think she noticed. I was embarrased for her. And then Jon has to make a moronic statement about how even one cavity isn't good - thanks Einstein I couldn't figure that one out on more own. A couple more things - 1. Raw eggs carry salmonella. I'm no germophobe but I wouldn't let my kids throw them.
2. Horses that are used for inexperienced riders are easy to ride. That's the point. Not all horses are so easy to ride.
Kate may think she's smart but she is absolutely an idiot.

Pony said...

The Juice is Loose said... "
JUICE. CAVITIES. SERIOUSLY.

Remember how anal Kate was about brushing? Doesn't matter. Juice has not only been linked to increased cavities, but also childhood obesity."

True, but given how little food she feeds the children, I think they may be safe.

Another little Duggar... said...

I know it's off topic, but just read where the Duggars are expecting their 19th...yes 19th child!

Wow...that's amazing!
God Bless them!! :)

(this is in addition to the new grandbaby, too!)

fidosmommy said...

FRIED CHICKEN FEET? Are you kidding me? Who feeds those to little children who are not used to them - and MAKES them eat them?

I didn't watch the episode, but can somebody tell me if Kate made the boys eat those things? Or was it just a staged thing and the kids were later given food they recognized? There may be some among us who think chicken feet are wonderful treats, but why
force them on little boys who would probably rather have a
"hamburgler". I think it is cruel to make children eat exotic food
without offering up an option.
I bet they were nearly starving by the time dinner was served, too.
Utterly cruel, IMO.

Somebody please tell me if Kate ate any, and if she made the kids eat them.

Monica said...

Samantha said...
I'm sorry, I have to ask. Maybe it's been answered or talked about already, but do those younger girls not own more than those 2 styles of dresses they were wearing?!?!?! Surely, Khate could swing by a thrift shop and at least spend .25 of their own money on a new shirt or dress for them.
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I wonder if Gymboree stopped providing clothing once they turned 5?!?!

just observing said...

Do you think they were offered only four free passes to the dude ranch and didn't want to pay for the other kids to go?

Jon get a good lawyer said...

I just saw some of this episode on youtube. What a snore. The biggest thing I noticed unfortunately is how developmentally delayed the boys are. They sound like 3 year olds, not 5 year olds. What a shame. If they don't want to spend their own time working with the kids they could at least spend some of the kids money paying for a tutor or someone to teach them basic things to get up to speed with their age group. I hope they are saving some cash for these kids, they'll need it. Also, nice handling of the cats, must be the way Kate handles them. Leading by example. Sad.

Wolfdreamer said...

I actually enjoyed this episode. The kids were acting like kids and the parents were actually doing activities that the kids would like to do.

Maggie wrote - The boys are being led on their horses, much more poop talk both in the arena and in their couch interviews. Kate explains that they talk of poop because they are boys. Personally I think she is more fascinated with poop than they are, and perhaps that is where they picked up the interest.

I have to dissagree. I remember going to a farm as a class trip as a kindergardner. One of the things I remember was being fascinated whenever I saw an animal poop. So did most of the other boys in the class. I think that is perfectly normal for them.

One aspect that did concern me was how John seemed to find the fact that Cara plays second fiddle to Maddie. I know that Maddie is the more dominant twin, but he should be encouraging Cara to to take the lead occasionally.

I wonder how truthful Kate was about never riding a horse. I know she lead a very "sheltered childhood" Where her parents didn't let her go anywhere or do anything but she was never on a ponyride or went to a carnival or a county fair to ride a horse? That seems a bit strange to me. I was born and raised in a city and I know every year we went to the county fair and as a kid I rode a horse each time. So that was probably fake.

All in all a good episode as far as I was concerned.

Potty minded said...

The only reason that POOP is fascinating to the boys is because since the time they were able to use the potty, Kate made a huge deal out of "PHOTOGRAPHING" their poop. She and Jon constantly made an issue out of poop. Its no wonder the kids are focused on it.

Willow #1 said...

Dear Stopthemadness - Yes, the same thing happened to my first child. She was very advanced but had the bottle too long and I put juice in it a lot. My mom had taught me to add water to the juice so it wasn't so strong, but it still ruined her top 4 teeth. This was in the 1970s. The dentist called it "mush mouth" - it was from the juice bottle. She had crowns on her top 4 middle teeth (which entailed general surgery for her at age 2) until her permanent teeth grew in. We were constantly at the dentist those few years as the crowns were always coming out. Needless to say, we made sure she had good teeth after that, including braces and the works. She has beautiful teeth now. My second child received milk for a short time and then water only. I made him give up the bottle a lot sooner. He had fine teeth. I know some of it is inheritance, but really, the juice thing is BAD. My grandson loved juice so much but my daughter would very seldom let him have it.

Minnesota Mom said...

In response to spooking the horses by screaming, how many times were they told and warned!!! If you pay attention to the egg fight (not too far into it) one of the boys throws an egg and if you pay attention in the background a horse carrying one of the other boys GETS spooked and almost throws him off! Yah, Kate REAL funny. My friend seriously injured her arm by being thrown off a spooked horse. Surgery, BIG scar, and she doesn't have full mobility of her arm (and that was YEARS ago). Anything for the cameras, right Kate?!?

Hardly sheltered said...

Who ever said that Kate lived a sheltered life, its not true. Listen to Kevin. And Kate herself said that she and all her siblings went to private school. Plus she went to nursing school and her parents own a camp ground. She has not been sheltered at all, she's been around many people growing up.

Its all a charade said...

There is no such thing as a "GOOD"
episode. Comeon. Its ALL child exploitation. See it for what it is. The kids are the moneymakers.

parents with a spoon, has no other options said...

Has one episode ever been shown where K8 was teaching/modeling/instructing her children how to brush their teeth? That was Jons area if I recall. Must be difficult for 2 parents, let alone one, to supervise 8 children brushing at least twice a day. At least Jon tried. He also bathed, dressed, participated in each and every outing and seemed to be the childrens main source of any type of one on one care. (all while she barked orders at him). Now she PAYS people to do the same. Doesn't sound like much of a mom to me. She is sick and, imo needs full time therapy to get even the most basic grip on what relating to others is like. Loose the spoon K8. Jon, keep quiet and get a good lawyer.

Tuesday said...

If you talk with your children about history, art, the environment, and the world in general--THAT is what they will discuss. If the only thing you talk about in 5 years is poop, that is probably the thing your child will talk about. She never had a true connection? or she is just brain dead? My guess , ummm , yes. She may be smiling on the outside but I could bet she ain't all that happy on the inside. She said recently that she was lonely. I can think of 8 children that are lonely also because of her actions.

goawayfools said...

Kate fit in perfectly with the other farm animals, being the jackass that she is. She seems to think that she's witty and charming when she's simply loud and ignorant. I'm sure the dude ranchers were happy to see her and her ill-behaved Villiage Nerds leave.

bet said...

Tuesday late night, no report on ratings yet?

You want a bet? I bet the rating is even lower than two weeks ago, that was 3 millions. Usually if the rating is high, they tell you right away and shovel it in your face.

If I am wrong, I will punish myself by having Kate's hair cut. Ha ha!

mom of 3 said...

I have to say Jon's mom is very brave to go to Vegas with her son. I am sure it's the PR people's idea to invite her to make Jon look good.

Jon's mother has never been on "Jon and Kate Plus 8". If she liked attention and fame, she would be on one of the old episodes. She is a private person. But her love for her son made her accompany her son to Vegas while the whole world calls him a jerk. That's some unconditional love there.

sophie said...

...and that was a scene I would prefer to forget. Mady and Cara perform their song, which involves Mady singing something and Cara sitting down alternately pretending to play a guitar and doing nothing. The little girls look really cute in their dress up clothes. Jon tells us he really likes being in New York and that looking after children is hard."

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I also heard Jon said something about that he can get a lot of things done in New York and such. I think what Jon meant is he wants to start up something and get certain things done. It's hard to look after children when he is worried about losing the business timing.

In our society, traditionally, we expect men to be the bread winner and get jobs. People have been saying "Jon, get a job!". So he is really trying to get a job(or start a business) on his own. And He has to do it quick before he misses the timing of this TLC show fever.

It's not realistic for him to get another IT job like the one he had. Job market is bad right now. He might not get it even if he were not that Jon on TV. The salary of an IT job can be difficult to raise 8 children without the TLC show. He knows the show might end soon due to many reasons: kids getting older, audience mad at their divorce. So he is looking into products and new showbiz gigs. He wants to get new business and gigs started before "Jon and Kate plus 8" ends.

Don't you guys always want Jon to get a job? He is trying.

I love my kids but it was very hard for me to just play with my kids when I was trying to get a job. My mind was everywhere, worrying.

JenTru said...

Best part of the recap:

That is called a suicide string because if your hat gets pulled back or caught, you could be strangled. No one points this out to Kate.

Thanks Maggie! I loved it. My mom, who has been a diehard fan from day one is actually now telling me the show is getting boring. YAY!

Linda said...

Minnesota Mom~I totally agree with you. Many years later I am still affected by an injury I had when I was on a horse that was spooked by a little girl who high tailed it after the horse and spooked it. I so love horses and was taught from a very early age to respect and value them. It disturbs me greatly to see that the Gosselin kids are receiving such little guidance from their parents in how to respect animals. The kids are picking up Kate's behaviour in treating people and animals with little respect and the blame lies entirely with the parents. Kate and Jon are going to have their hands full when these kids get older and really start rebelling. Karma is not going to be kind to KON!

Jimmy said...

fidosmommy said...

FRIED CHICKEN FEET? Are you kidding me? Who feeds those to little children who are not used to them - and MAKES them eat them?
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I couldn't agree with you more. We raise chickens and if I tried serving fried chicken feet, my family would leave the table.
This may be a delicacy to some, but
I just can't imagine serving something with the toenails on.
Just my opinion.

Jimmy said...

As for kids and cavities, my 16 month old niece (not a bottle baby)
has cavities in her two front teeth and has to have them fixed under local anesthesia on Sept. 9th. Her 3 older siblings don't have cavities yet. We are waiting to hear what the dentist thinks caused this.

SavetheGosselin8 said...

I've tried very hard to not watch the show, but a rerun of Monday's show was on last night, and I couldn't help myself.

The kids were so adorable as always, but I can't stand Kate. She is a total 360 degrees from how she used to portray herself. I'm sick of her constant high heels and babydoll dresses. Who would even think of wearing such a get-up at a dude ranch? The whole episode was so contrived. First she has the babydoll outfit on so she can giggle and say she needs to wear shoes that are more appropriate. Later on in the episode, she's in the same type of getup - babydoll dress with boots. She is constantly showing as much skin as possible. Kate, if you're reading this, we don't care about you. The only reason to tune into the show is to see the kids. However, even though we love to watch them, they should not be on tv at all and should be allowed an opportunity to have a normal, non-intrusive life. During the craft scene with Jon and the girls, I saw photos online of when the scene at the picnic table was filmed, and there were so many production people (including a young 20 something girl plus a "bar buddy of Jon's" per the photo caption) hanging around. Those poor kids. They can't even have a fun time with their dad without having cameras thrust in their faces - not just from afar but literally within inches of their faces.

You can see that Jon is the better, more natural parent. His scenes were less contrived and he seemed more comfortable with the kids. Kate, with the boys, acts as if she is constantly thinking about checking her cell phone, getting a mani/pedi, tanning. or her career. She seems so distracted and not fully engaging in the moment with her kids.

And I am SO sick of her attacking the paparazzi. She thinks she's this huge star. Everytime she says this I think, "Stop the show, stop appearing on every talk show on tv, and stop giving interviews to the tabloids and the paparazzi will go away!" All Kate did was give birth to sextuplets while Jon was unemployed and were forced on welfare. Always remember where you came from Kate, and be thankful for the blessings you've received, as well as be cognizant of the fact that you could just as easily return from whence you came.

And since Kate is so religious, remember "Money is the root of all evil." Think about how this applies to your life and the decisions you've made.

I think the show hopefully is on life support. The only reason for me to ever tune in is to see the tups and when they are Maddy and Cara's age, the cuteness of watching the tups will be gone. They'll no longer be "babies." Even though I get weak at times and watch, I hope with all my heart, for the kids' sake, that the show will come to a quick end.

In the upcoming episode Jon takes the kids fishing and it looks as if Joel is the child who has a crying jag. Jon needles him by complaining he (Joel) whines too much. It has always bothered me how Jon makes fun of Joel's speech, right to his face. This is not the first episode we've seen where Jon complains about Joel's sensitive nature and personality. I've never heard him talk to the other boys as he does Joel.

As far as Kate on "The View", disgraced, embarrassing, soon-to-be-convicted former Gov. Rod Blago is also going to be on next week. This proves Kate is a D-list celebrity. She certainly doesn't see it that way, and neither does Blago. Both are narcissists - the world evolves around them, and have no clue as to the reality of the situation. Totally delusional and/or in denial.

For the kids' sake, I hope the show will be off the air soon. Go away Kate and Jon. You have well over-stayed your 15 minutes. The nation is sick of you and disgusted by what you are doing to your children. Go away and keep your dirty laundry private! Think of the kids and not yourselves for once.

readerlady said...

parents with a spoon, has no other options said:
Has one episode ever been shown where K8 was teaching/ modeling/instructing her kids how to brush their teeth?
I don't recall any episodes where K8 taught her kids anything, other than how to be an anal retentive, rude, nasty person.

Let me get this straight: when the boys were supposed to help gather eggs - food - Khate once again encouraged them to WASTE it, when there are thousands of people in this country who don't know where their next meal is coming from? That is selfish, cruel and inappropriate, to say the least. She should be required to volunteer at a homeless shelter or in a food pantry once a week for several months. Maybe if she saw how other people are forced to live, often through no fault of their own, she'd be a little less cavalier about things like this. Kids will be kids, but it's never too early to start teaching them to be aware of other people, and to be grateful for their blessings. Oh wait, that's right, Khate doesn't know the meaning of the word gratitude. Just reading about this makes me see red. I volunteer once a week at the food pantry run by my church, and some of the stories of the people who come in break my heart. Khate is despicable.

SickOfIt said...

Kate's description of the scenery was quite...eloquent? Perhaps she's looking for a gig on the Travel Channel? I don't think Samantha Brown has anything to worry about!

Vanessa said...

The chicken feet were smothered in bbq sauce, the boys licked the sauce off, I dont' think they acutally "ate" them. They probably thought they were chicken wings. Collin looked pretty satisfied in making his mother squirm.
I would love to know the amount of air time Khate had in this episode, we saw her again and again and she just went on and on and on! Please show more of the kids!
And Kate STOP talking to the crew, it's annoying.
Oh, and the wardrobe, JUST.PLEASE.STOP.

franky said...

fidosmommy said...

FRIED CHICKEN FEET? Are you kidding me? Who feeds those to little children who are not used to them - and MAKES them eat them?
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Ok watched it on youtube..K8 got outta eating the fried feet by half-heartedly ringing the dinner bell..it appeared to me that her giving the boys the traditional fried feet was entirely too contrived..grimaces..I mean, facial expressions and all..she didn't force the boys, just encouraged them..and in all honesty, we did not see any of them devour any chicken feet.

that being said..all I could see is how she now talks like the Cheshire cat in Alice in Wonderland..white teeth..blinding white teeth showing while the lips around them form the words..my..she has had major coaching in how to act..but still comes across as too fake K8

fidosmommy said...

I think I remember an episode when the children were very small and they were getting their teeth brushed at the kitchen table. I doubt they were using toothpaste at that time, just wet brushes. I also noticed the brushing was very quick and didn't get the whole mouth done.

Strong bones and teeth are made by drinking milk, eating milk products and other good sources of calcium/Vitamin D/magnesium. They don't seem to drink a lot of milk, and their yogurt cups seem to be quite small. I have seen them eating ice cream several times, though. I wonder if that's often
"on sale" so they get lots of it.

CherylB said...

Oh He**, the Red Reflet Guest Ranch has a #@%*!#* SPA. We should have known. I had trouble sleeping last night so while on the computer I went to their site. They are considered a luxury place.
Massages $85/hour, yacht rental, tons of things offered that as usual tlc led us to believe otherwise.

I would love to hear from someone who was there when the G's were.

Katie O said...

Potty minded said...
The only reason that POOP is fascinating to the boys is because since the time they were able to use the potty, Kate made a huge deal out of "PHOTOGRAPHING" their poop. She and Jon constantly made an issue out of poop. Its no wonder the kids are focused on it.

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I wonder if you have ever potty trained a toddler. I have a 2 year old boy who is in the process of potty training, and the way you potty train them is to make a HUGE deal when they poop and/or pee. When Ben pooped in the potty for the first time, my husband & I freaked out, had a huge Poop Party, took pictures, called family members, etc. to get Ben excited about doing it on a more regular schedule.

The reason the boys are obsessed with poop is because THEY ARE BOYS, and that's one of the things that makes having boys so lovely.

I don't understand this topic of conversation. Why aren't we discussing things more important than the boys' obsession with poop?

Megan said...

@ Wolfdreamer -

There's no such THING as a good episode as long as it features any of these 8 children who are constantly being exploited by their parents.

geesh!

Melissa said...

This is the first episode I have actually seen in ages. My nine year old loves to watch it and while I have long since removed it from our DVR schedule, she stumbled upon it. I could not help it...like someone said, a bad train wreck.

I did actually have to pause live TV so I could capture this quote a la Kate:
"The hope was that we would be paparazzi free…that we would be able to get a break from that so we could concentrate on spending time together."
I am assuming she means that the family togetherness now includes the entire TLC crew that was tagging along? And when she wanted to shoot the tabloid covers, I would have loved to have run up there with the latest People Magazine cover. It would have been worth it just to see her face turn red!

Another favorite part that I did not see in the recap (unless I missed it) was when they were walking in to what I assume was a chicken house. She turned around and made the most hideous face to indicate that she was thoroughly disgusted to have to go in there. Funny, you DID know you were going to a ranch, right Kate? Things like chickens are somewhat common there. (Rolling eyes.) Then there was a flash down to her VERY high heels complete with open toes. The rancher said, "Oh this is really not high heeled country."

The only thing that makes me feel decent about my daughter watching it was that she totally "gets" it. I can honestly say without any prodding from me she wanted to know why it was okay to film for the show but she did not want any other cameras around. I had to chuckle.

amymo said...

According to a local in Ten Sleep, Wyoming. Kate held a meet and greet party after her stay there and no one (the staff, etc) showed up. Well, with the exception of her paid TLC crew.

LP said...

All I can say is WOW! Here's the website for the "dude" ranch that they went to. This is not your typical dude ranch but rather another luxurious vacation. Take a look. WOW!!

http://tinyurl.com/mdnqw7

Here's a description of the ranch house - there are also individual challets. I wonder which they went with!

The Ranch House is the only surviving structure from the previous owner, but has been completely remodeled in 2008 so as to be ideal for large families or groups. The upper floor has a Master Suite with a King bed, steam shower, Jacuzzi Tub, and crib and changing table. The Main Floor has a large living room, sofa, card table, two bedrooms each with twin beds and adjoining bathrooms, fully-equipped and stocked kitchen, an 8-person enclosed hot tub and large outside decks.
The Lower Floor has a large bedroom with fireplace and a King Size bed and a bunk house room with three bunks to sleep six. There are two bathrooms, a steam shower and a large sauna. There is also a laundry room with a full-size washer and dryer.
The Ranch House has hi-speed wireless internet, as well as a large HD TV with Direct TV service, DVD and VCR and with good views from every room. There is a pond at the front of the house and a tree-house out back on the large lawn. The Ranch House is near the greenhouse, garden and chicken coop (a favorite visiting place for young guests who can help gather fresh organic eggs!).
The Ranch House can sleep up to 14. Only one family or group reserved in this or any of the Chalets.

Moons in Leo said...

Maggie, I award you a Purple Heart for slogging through this episode. Okay, and a Pink Heart too. Great recap.

My baby teeth were like Chiclets. I was never, ever allowed to drink anything except milk and nothing with sugar in it ever passed my lips, yet I still had rotten teeth. I think it can be a genetic thing. Permanent teeth much better, thanks.

oldcrow said...

Don't get me started on the Duggars. Forcing THAT many kids to compete for parental attention is just cruel and frankly every pregnancy just becomes a slap in the face to the existing kids who deserve their parents undivided attention for more than three minutes a day. A mother's primary duty is NOT to just pop out as many babies as she's biologically able to. Its irresponsible. Because of their active mission to have as many children as they can, they've forced their older children to essentially become parents of the younger kids. And none of those kids have any say in the matter either. Talk about making kids grow up earlier than they should. Its just wrong.

NoUse4Kate said...

Did the ratings for Monday come in yet? When it is quiet doesn't that usually indicate that they tanked?

Barb said...

GAmom said...

Didn't watch, but thanks to the reacap we learned, once again, that Kate couldn't risk her life skating with Cara & Jon, due to her kids deep need for her. But she happily speeds on an ATV, gets plastic surgery, and wants to drive a race car? How does anyone not see through this woman..still???


I don't know that it's unusual for someone to get a divorce and try to change themselves. It's not just Kate.

Barb said...

I am pregnant and was told by my OB and dentist that your baby's child and adult teeth form in the womb and a lot of their "tooth health" has to do with what you eat and how much fluoride you pass along to the fetus.

Anne said...

So does Hannah have zero cavities because Kate does a better job when she brushes her teeth than the others? Hannah has long been favored, hasn't she?

Mrs. Know-it-All said...

I just caught a re-run of what must be the 1st epi, it is the one where the family goes to Martha Stewart, and one of the girls poops during her nap and Kate discovers she is covered. Thought this was funny because several people have mentioned the family interest in poop. Here is what I noticed... Kate interacting with her kids. Even then they look a little afraid of her. Hannah, I think is the one that pooped, looks a little scared. Then later in the epi, there is a spot where Kate is bouncing one of the boys. She is bouncing him up and down by holding onto the top part of his biceps sort of a squeeze hold and his head is flopping back. He enjoys it a bit at first, but it is a border line of fear, and fun, he then does start to cry and the cameras cut away. Anyhow, my point is that I was really paying attention to the details back then in light of where the family has ended up. So you fellow GWOP'ers pay attention to the family interaction of the older shows. It's a bit scary, and I am not being melodramatic. I think that behind the camera and in things not shown, it must have been really really bad.

oldcrow said...

Fidosmommy - Kate gave the boys the chicken feet to try at the barbecue dinner (in addition to the rest of their food). She didn't force them to eat them. However, when they were tasting them she was standing behind putting on a show about how yucky and it icky they were (which begged the obvious question - why did she give them to them in the first place?).

Its so clear now that Kate's mission is to act the opposite of how she used to. A year ago she wouldn't let her kids touch those chicken feet, but now she's giving them to them just to show how "relaxed" as a parent she's become (like the tent thing, the pudding, etc.). It just shows that the kids aren't her first priority, its about how she comes across on camera.

She's really flailing out there on her own. She doesn't know who she is or what direction she's going in. I'm almost beginning to feel slightly sorry for her. She's not all there.

abbie said...

Kate mounts her horse first, if it were me, I would be sure all the boys got on their horses and were comfortable, WEARING PROTECTIVE HELMETS. If Kate can't get up on a horse without squealing like an idiot- why does she? Some role model she is.....but I am not surprised at all.a

Maude said...

My first thought concerning the egg fight was not safety but how once again Kate is encouraging her children to be thoughless and wasteful.

PAMom and Paisley,
Thanks for sharing the egg in the eye stories. I had no idea, and wouldn't have thought, that egg shell can be so dangerous. Even if it is a "freak" accident, its still important to know.

Gives whole new meaning to the age-old Mom saying "you could lose an eye". Yikes!

outwest said...

The dude ranch was in Ten Sleep Wyoming. Check out the rates.

Janet's Hobbies and Stuff said...

I am sorry, but I grew up in Oklahoma (LOTS OF COWBOY BOOTS going on) and if you wore you boots with the pants tucked in then you would get your butt laughed at!
Kate looked completely ridiculous and I peed a little when I saw her in that stupid outfit! I am sorry she is about the most pathatic person I have ever seen!!

Un-Green said...

oldcrow said...
Don't get me started on the Duggars. Forcing THAT many kids to compete for parental attention is just cruel and frankly every pregnancy just becomes a slap in the face to the existing kids who deserve their parents undivided attention for more than three minutes a day
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ITA! Nobody can give that many children the attention they deserve. Also, it is horrible for the environment -- it is not politically correct to mention it, but most of our environmental problems would be solved if there were a whole lot less people on the planet. Producing NINETEEN more consumers is irresponsible and ridiculous.

Toothy Grin said...

fidosmommy said...

They don't seem to drink a lot of milk, and their yogurt cups seem to be quite small.
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Those yogurt cups are also SWEETENED WITH SUGAR -- nobody makes those little cups with plain yogurt. I know, because I've looked.
Also, I think (could be wrong) that Juicy Juice is "all fruit", but some of that "fruit" comes in the form of concentrated juices, which are heavy-duty sweeteners in disguise. It's no wonder the children have cavities.

Have Jon or Kate ever been seen using dental floss on the kids? Without it, you can brush forever and still have dirty teeth.

Pa Mom Knows said...

Barb said:

I am pregnant and was told by my OB and dentist that your baby's child and adult teeth form in the womb and a lot of their "tooth health" has to do with what you eat and how much fluoride you pass along to the fetus.
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I'm not sure how much stock I'd put in that theory! My grandmother, from the old country, had extremely poor dental habits (wore false teeth -- I never even knew her with "real" teeth) and she ate a diet of fat, red meat and fried foods. My mother only had one cavity, and she didn't get that one until she was in her 60s! Of course, there are always exceptions...

Laurie said...

I agree with Katie O about the whole poop thing. I am housebreaking a puuppy and every time he poops outside we tell him what a great and wonderful creature he is (he really is a sweetie) and tell him that it's a picture perfect poop. Our neighbors probably think we're a bit crazy. The boys obsession with poop is probably because they're boys and that was quite a load that the horse dropped!

a rose is a rose said...

Everything the rancher told Kate NOT to do, she did. Screaming on the horse, wearing HEELS and a dress to a dude ranch, listening to the rules they read (she was talking the whole time). She DOESN'T CARE. She almost got insulted while the ranch hands were reading her the rules for horse riding, which she felt didn't pretain to HER.

Connie said...

sophie said...

I also heard Jon said something about that he can get a lot of things done in New York and such. I think what Jon meant is he wants to start up something and get certain things done. It's hard to look after children when he is worried about losing the business timing.

In our society, traditionally, we expect men to be the bread winner and get jobs. People have been saying "Jon, get a job!". So he is really trying to get a job(or start a business) on his own. And He has to do it quick before he misses the timing of this TLC show fever.

It's not realistic for him to get another IT job like the one he had. Job market is bad right now. He might not get it even if he were not that Jon on TV. The salary of an IT job can be difficult to raise 8 children without the TLC show. He knows the show might end soon due to many reasons: kids getting older, audience mad at their divorce. So he is looking into products and new showbiz gigs. He wants to get new business and gigs started before "Jon and Kate plus 8" ends.

Don't you guys always want Jon to get a job? He is trying.

I love my kids but it was very hard for me to just play with my kids when I was trying to get a job. My mind was everywhere, worrying.
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Sophie, I had the same take on this as you. Though we might not agree with everything he does, I think Jon is trying to change tracks and reorganize his life. It must be very frightening to have 8 kids, going through a divorce and knowing your job is going to be soon ending. Jon also mentioned during this comment that he was adjusting to the visitation schedule and thought the kids were getting used to it as well.

On the other hand, Kate has always been firm that she likes things the way they are and has said she has even bigger dreams for herself. Her "job" is what she's doing right now. I think she knows in order to continue on this path, she has to drag the children along with her on her self-perceived wave of stardom. In her eyes her claim to fame is being the "perfect mom". And heaven forbid that anyone get in her way. Anyway this is my take on it.

Rosie said...

One more thing Kate ignored.. the ranchers request for her to slow down on the ATV with her sons.
All of a sudden she's INTO speed? I remember at the amusement park rides with the kids, she was yelling JOOOOOONNN, help US.

Kittie6 said...

I didn't watch the whole episode, but it did bother me that the boys were allowed to act pretty wild around the horses. Not a pretty sight if a horse gets spooked and throws a kid off or steps on a kid.The thing I liked least was the kids being allowed to throw eggs. As a mom who is struggling to feed my small family, it just rubs me the wrong way that the show thought it was entertaining to show the kids wasting food. Waste the eggs, then feed the kids chicken feet! Thanks, TLC!

What about POOP? said...

KatieO...but did you FILM the kids poop for the WORLD to see? Sorry its not the same with normal everyday kids. These are TV kids we are talking about. Kate has ALWAYS been Poop obsessed. AND yes I've raised four adult productive citizens and have 2 grandchildren, plus I've been a maternity/pediatric nurse for 30 years. I am only answering your blog, I didn't start the poop talk.

TandLMommy18 said...

Maggie said...

That is called a suicide string because if your hat gets pulled back or caught, you could be strangled. No one points this out to Kate.

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I almost peed my pants. Love it.

:)

I can't believe Jon inferred that he'd rather be in NY than with his kids. He makes me sick. And seriously? She's impressed with the boys they've grown into? What mother says that about a five year old? Oh wait, one who hasn't been around all that much in the past year or so! GRRR!

Anne said...

Based on what I found, ratings are down again.

8/17 Battleship episode
1.9/3HH
1.2/4 A18-49

8/31 Dude ranch episode
1.5/2HH
1.0/3 A18-49

Not sure what the number of viewers are because I don't know how to translate this, but as you can see - lower numbers. Makes my day!

suchasadshow said...

I found it most interesting to see how often the staff hugged the boys (lots of footage) vs. how often Kate did (0), or interacted with them at all for that matter. These strangers were giving the children more affection than their mother.

The other thing that annoyed me to no end, was Kate's complaining. She whined the entire episode! She even complained about the fact that her boys didn't complain on their hike.

As for the chicken feet, she told one of the boys he must take one when he said he didn't want it, but then made comments about how gross they were. Why force your child to take it if you are going to tell him it's disgusting?

pinkpanties said...

this episode was ridiculous. there are nanoseconds that i just sort of think MAYBE kate might be actually trying. but then when it comes to the teaching issue...or the lack thereof...i realize what a pathetic excuse for a mother she is. her children are just excuses for her to whine and accessories. and i can't say much better about jon.

and about the duggars having their 19th...there are people in the world who aren't able to have children, and this woman's womb has become nothing more than a factory. this is not a blessed event, it's a monstrosity. there should be some sort of litigation against puppy mill style breeding like this. if this were the 1800s and they needed farm hands, so be it. but this is the 21st century and half the world can't even afford to eat. these people parade around on tv (which, by the way, they're not allowed to watch but hell if they can't reap the benefits from exploiting their inability to control themselves) and undoubtedly rake in the dollars from that. i call bulls*** on their "rentals." it's just a front. their 19 children are all going to turn around and act the same way as they do, mating all the time and springing forth new brainwashed children to turn around and do the same thing. this world is overpopulated by humans as it is...lets just make it worse by letting the backwards do most of the breeding.
...anyone here seen idiocracy?

i will step down off my soap box.

Sweat Bee said...

Those yogurt cups are also SWEETENED WITH SUGAR -- nobody makes those little cups with plain yogurt. I know, because I've looked.

Stonyfield farm has plain (organic!) yogurt in single-serve cups marketed under the YoBaby label. I have no idea if that's what Kate's kids eat, though.

Anne said...

I just can't keep smiling about the ratings drop off continuing.

If ratings aren't going up with all the non-stop publicity, I see nothing but a downward trend continuing.

The cover of People magazine and your ratings drop again! Wonder if that's registering with anyone that the Kate publicity tour isn't working as they'd hoped.

Connie said...

TandLMommy18 said...
Maggie said...

That is called a suicide string because if your hat gets pulled back or caught, you could be strangled. No one points this out to Kate.

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I almost peed my pants. Love it.

:)

I can't believe Jon inferred that he'd rather be in NY than with his kids. He makes me sick. And seriously? She's impressed with the boys they've grown into? What mother says that about a five year old? Oh wait, one who hasn't been around all that much in the past year or so! GRRR!
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I believe what Jon said was, he loved being with his kids but it was easier to get things done when he was at his apt (off-visitation) in NY. I believe he was referencing his efforts to find employment and get his life on track again.

Anne said...

The dude ranch was in Ten Sleep Wyoming. Check out the rates.

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Holy crap! At least all these big buck vacations are on film for the littlest Gs to watch someday. J&K have sold the kids out for "memories" that the kids will never remember. Seriously, how many vivid memories do you have from age 3-5?

stopthemadness said...

I think the exploitation of the children is directly connected to their development and character, isn't that the point? I don't object to KON making money off the kids except for the way that it affects the kids:

1. Safety. Everyone in America knows these kids, their names, ages, nicknames, likes, habits, personality, where they live, go to school, what bus they ride and what their underpants look like. At my kids' school they have to ask you up front if they are going to use your child's name or image in any school media, on the website etc because it is DANGEROUS for strangers to know who these kids are and where they can be found. These children are exposed.
Kate's body guard is not there for the children - he goes with her. We can only imagine his actual duties but it's not to protect the children. Safety is also a concern outside stranger danger - riding ATV too fast, going on horse sans helmet, playing at ocean with only camera hog mother to rescue them if she even notices, etc. This show directly negatively impacts their safety and security.

2. Privacy. They have NONE. Not during filming and not at the bus stop or on the way out of the salon. This is uncomfortable for the adults and children are no different. They need privacy.

3. Develoment. Kids are always learning, but if the time they have to do so is taken up with being filmed and driven to filming and standing waiting to be filmed or photographed or stressing about it they don't have the space to learn other things even if it is how to lie on your back for an hour and watch clouds and think about them. Or to have play dates or go have a normal experience without trailing an entourage behind you as you enjoy a baseball game or any other event. Or to have one on one time with a parent because they are on the phone when they ARE home and are totally stressed by the nature of having a "reality" show. You don't have to be a master's degree in childhood education to know this or to notice this about kids. If they did not have the responsibility of being wage earners - unpaid wage earners with a wooden spoon as their motivation - they would and could be doing other things with that time that would progress them naturally. Big changes in kids' development happen at age two and three - what was going on in the tups' lives at that age? How could that not affect them? What can be done to address that - numerous things that are being ignored b y the parents as they focus on their celebrity and earnings.
These parents have money, earned on the backs of their children, surely the development safety character and privacy of their kids should be addressed rather than ignored in order to get some more footage. That's how it seems to me anyhow.

Haven't Watched said...

Anonymous bet said...

Tuesday late night, no report on ratings yet?

You want a bet? I bet the rating is even lower than two weeks ago, that was 3 millions. Usually if the rating is high, they tell you right away and shovel it in your face.

If I am wrong, I will punish myself by having Kate's hair cut. Ha ha!
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ITA!! Very odd not to see it mentioned yet.

no more door mat said...

Jon speaks up about the abuse he took from Kate and the divorce on ABC. I am so glad he finally tells his side of story. He probably got advised to do so.

Kate thought Jon was dumb like a rock and she could pin any crime on him. You can only take so much abuse. Anyone doormat will eventually turn around and defend himself.

Kate is vomit induce said...

I heard the ratings is like 2.5 millions now. It dropped another half million from last week.

According to industry reports, if the rating is about 2 million among female 18 - 49. For a cable show, it's still somewhat profitable. Under 2 millions? not so much, can be canceled soon.

Let's hope it will drop under 2 millions. I don't know about you, if anyone sees that footage that Kate talks in a strange tone wearing her ugly pink hat and pink plaid shirt on the cowboy episode, he will vomit violently and never tune in TLC again.

I saw that footage on ABC, she is talking about taking out frustration. She talks in a weird tone in ugly outfits. It's so gross. My breakfast almost came out.

Ylie said...

Can we leave the Duggars out of this? There is a blog devoted to discussing them and it is not this one.

TLC is stupid said...

Kate asked Jon to quit his job so she could go on book tour while Jon stays home to watch the kids.


Then she called him a lame fish not going anywhere. Well, lame fish is all you can get, Kate. You weren't a celebrity with a big career when you met Jon. Now you have a TV show only because of the kids, not that you have any special talent. Jon is a big help and comedy relief on the show. He is not as lame as you are. You actually turn off the audience. Your pathetic TV career is all about exploiting your kids.

Kate is so gross said...

TLC and all other networks better get a clue that Kate can't star a show. People just don't like her, period. All the media attention doesn't save the ratings, nothing can.

When unattractive Kate with no talent just does normal things like taking care of her kids, she is bearable. Because it's not so much about her, it's about the kids and the task. When Kate starts to pose and act, it's so pretentious and gross, it turns your stomach.

This season Kate tends to think she is a star or something. You can see she wants to break out. She is doing a lot of camera hugging and posing, but not taking care of her kids, I mean really taking care of them and interacting with them, NOT posing with them. And she failed to attract viewers. It's just not natural for a hillbilly to act like she is a star because she is not and she has no star quality.

Down again said...

Ratings were 1.5 Dude Ranch
1.9 Battleship.
WAY down. Per tv cable ratings

Kate is a lame pig said...

See all the media outlets are so quiet about the ratings?

Usually they would stay "It declined but it's still a healthy 3 million" bla bla bla. What now? We don't even get a "healthy" 3 million now? Is it unhealthy now?

happy cow said...

Kate is not TV friendly because her attitude is disgusting. Every move she does just screams "me, me, me"

If you want to be "me, me, me", you have to be a fun person like a rock star. You have to know how to entertain people, be really hot, have humor, and be spontaneous. Kate is a dork/nerd. She can't do anything. She doesn't know how to have fun. She is not fun. She has no sense of humor. She is not hot but looks cheap and trashy. Her taste is just yuck. Viewers know Kate is anything but spontaneous. Everybody is more spontaneous than her.

Kate's idea of fun is : sitting in the spa. Need I say more? Any cow can sit her large behind in the spa. That's not a born entertainer, is it?

Katie O said...

Anne said...
So does Hannah have zero cavities because Kate does a better job when she brushes her teeth than the others? Hannah has long been favored, hasn't she?

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Are you kidding? Really? You're saying that Kate/Staff take better care of Hannah's teeth than the other girls? Next, someone's going to say that if down the road, Alexis needs glasses and Hannah doesn't, it'll be because Kate/Staff fed Hannah more carrots because they liked her best.

Sometimes, kids just get cavaties. I do believe all that flippin' juice they drank had a pretty big part in it.

Let's get back to the point here instead of making shot-in-the-dark accusations. They do enough stuff out in the open for us to talk about without making up stuff.

Two clueless idiots said...

I just forced myself to watch one segment on YouTube, and I noticed, more than even before, Kate is always posing for someone just off camera. She cracks these "clever" jokes and looks over to someone beside the camera. It was WAY more obvious in the segment I watched than it has been previously (I picked randomly - I think segment #2?). It's as if she's becoming more and more of a performer, more and more wrapped up in how clever and adorable she is, more and more convinced that she is a STAR and people want to see how very special she is. It's very unattractive, very unnatural for "reality" TV and very unprofessional. I have never seen anyone on the Bachelor, Survivor or the Duggars (yes, my viewing tastes are varied:) mug for the camera like that! Will she do this on the View? Honestly, it annoys the crap out of me!

Had a thought said...

As much as I dislike Kate, I must admit she has very good PR telling her how to act and what to say so she will appear to be the "good" parent. Yes, Jon, she did abuse you and you put up with it! Get a clue, Jon, and start cleaning up your act too! Dress better, take some speech lessons. Get some good PR advice and SOON, or greedy Kate will take you to the cleaners!

Ms.Peach said...

So were the ratings 1.5 or 2 million? Please cite your source.

Jo said...

Ylie said...

Can we leave the Duggars out of this? There is a blog devoted to discussing them and it is not this one.


Would love to - can you give the link out?

concerned said...

Monday Night Football set a preseason rating record for ESPN, which certainly helped the rating decline. No matter how bored you are hearing his name, thank Mr. Favre for that.

And now, the regular season games of Monday Night Football start. There is no way the ratings for this horrible program are going up. Those ultra high ratings were when the divorce was big news and there was no MNF or Big Monday Hoops or even new network shows.

Now this horrible program has to compete with many new and varied options. Hopefully, this will spell the end.

how to read ratings? said...

Ratings were 1.5 Dude Ranch
1.9 Battleship.
WAY down. Per tv cable ratings

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What does 1.9 mean? 1.9 million?

Diane said...

Jo:

http://duggarswithoutpity.blogspot.com/

Angie said...

Haven't been watching any of these crap shows but I will be watching primetime on next Tuesday to see what Jon has to say. Kate has had all the spotlight and interviews, so why not Jon?

Just me said...

Every Wednesday I finally get back on my computer so my comment is a little late so here goes.

One I saw Kate in that silly pink hat I turned off the T.V and plucked my eyebrows instead.

fidosmommy said...

OK, like I said, some may think Chicken Feet are a real taste treat. However, facing them for the first time as a 5 year old who is used to eating.... well, not
chicken feet.... it must have been a nightmarish meal. I hold Kate as a mean mother if she forced her children to eat them after she herself declared them disgusting.

Politeness would have been "Collin,
if you don't want to eat them, you just say no thank you and eat something else." No host I know would pitch a fit if I didn't want to eat his grilled rattlesnake, and would not force the issue.

Where I live people eat biscuits and gravy. I don't get that at all. I just don't serve myself any and the problem is evaded.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Connie and Sophie said....

Re: Jon's employment status:

First, to be clear, I do not have the disdain for Jon that I do for his soon-to-be-ex.

But having had a great dad myself,I know first hand what a peace-filled sense of security that was mine to bask in, knowing every day that my dad was just a good man, responsible, respectable, a hard working Civil Engineer who supported his 5 kids. We had no luxuries growing up (3 girls shared a small room and a tiny closet and our two brothers shared a room and a small closet, our mom's kitchen was the size of a postage stamp, yet SOMEHOW she managed to fix nutritious hot meals for 7 people)and NEVER got a total renovation ala K8. Nope, no luxuries EXCEPT the one that really matters: a steady & loving homelife - its resultant peace has stayed with me through my adult life and has sustained me even when my adult life's winds blew hard and cold.

I feel sorry for the 8 Gosselin kids because I would've been SO embarrassed if my childhood had included stories all over the place about my dad hanging with the likes of Mr. Lohan or hanging out in bars, etc. I have nothing against alcohol or separated couples beginning to re-establish their social life by dating, it's just that a dad has such a powerful effect on his kids by the life style example he chooses..

Yes, I feel sorry for ANYONE out of work and seeking employment. These are very tough times for many and my heart goes out to all affected.

But I have to respectfully disagree that Jon 'can't go back to IT'. Why not?

I find it disappointing that, despite his protestations about continuing on with the show at last season's end, all this time since, the only thing he seems to be pursuing in the way of employment is MORE 'reality' TV. Makes no sense to me. (Besides, neither he NOR K8 have any talent in any kind of entertainment so WHY seek to hold onto thelimelight and extend those 15 minutes o'fame? If life with the publicity and constant photogs is SUCH a pain, why then pursue your livelihood in such a business?

As far as providing for 8 kids, well, yeah, that's a tough one, but then again, he went along with the plan for fertility treatments (X3!) and then followed that up with an agreement not to selectively reduce the pregnancy or limit the # of embryo's implanted. THEN he apparently went along with another dumb decision, which was to buy the acred mansion. It's JMO that it's time now to face the consequences of the decisions he made or at least went along with.

Further, there's a difference between having to support 8 kids vs. giving 8 kids a Lifestyle of The Rich & Famous. If J&K were wise or smart (take your pick), they'd sell the mansion, establish some kind of living arrangement that reflected a more average/middle class lifestyle. They'd knock off all the expensive vacas, the car & motorcycle and wardrobe purchases and plastic surgery. They'd settle for a 'regular' job that would accommodate some semblance of normalcy and some semblance of family (yes, divorced parents can STILL provide a sense of family to their kids).

Priorities. It all basically comes down to priorities. What do you REALLY want most in life? What is it you MOST want to give your children?

Since talk is cheap and actions tell the real tale, the only conclusion I can come to with J&K is that their newfound wealth and, yes, despite all their complaining about it, their celebrity, is what they currently value MOST.

Sad for them. Much sadder for the kids, who have no say in the unwise decisions made by their parents.

pubic enemy said...

TLC interns need to stop spreading rumors like Jon bought Haily this and that. Who is the source? Not one person is a named source. The stores are not coming out to be the named source either. Can we see the receipt? Merchant's copy, please? It's stupid. Why wouldn't the stores come out and get publicity? You bet they would love to brag about it and get some free advertisement.

If Jon buys anything, it's for Haily? Can he buy a piece of Jewelry for his mom? For God's sake, his mommy went to Vegas pool party for making it a clean event. Poor mommy kept her privacy all along, now she has to come out to stand by her son as "the douche's mom". I would buy her jewelry if I knew her. It's not fun being stared at as the public enemy's mom.

stopthemadness said...

I'm surprised TLC has their big show opposite MNF - I didn't watch last season so don't remember if that was how it was then, we watch MNF like many families do, even if it's in the den there is nowhere in the house you can go to get away from it so might as well join them as try to beat them. Besides I love football.

I suppose TLC is thinking that for those who do not like football or who abandon "the boys" to do "Boy stuff" like watch "boy sports" there should be sparkly glittery pinkish entertainment for Girls that their pretty heads can relate to -like Toddlers in Tiaras and mommyish stuff like J&K+8. For those who have only one tv however they have to make a choice.I'm surely not leaving my kids in the room while I can sneak up and watch Kate berate Jon or act a fool in her cowgirl hat and spike heels or whatever they are dishing up as entertainment the more desperate they become.

Will we see J&K+8 move to a better night so it doesn't have to compete with seeing the Saints trounce the Texans? If not, I am thinking 1.5 to 2M is about all they will get. If under 2 M is "not healthy" (I love it= ratings equated with HEALTH) then you better call the doctor because this show is probably one of the more expensive reality shows in that the STARS are now all up their own behind about how starish and watchable they are, and they want more money, probably basing their self importance on ratings from a single pair of episodes (wedding/ break up) but the ratings are down. A 10M viewer show would expect to pay more to the star diva, than one with 3-4M watchers (which is what they had prior to Hawaii) and certainly if they are under 2M viewers with sponsors dropping out, there is a health problem here that comes with a smaller paycheck (as is so often the case with serious illness).

their shows have to feature stuff like $10,000 stay in a dude ranch, so the production isn't cheaper. WIll TLC take smaller profits? ha!

will Kate want to take a cut in pay from $75,000 per episode - well, half of that, to reflect the illness of her show?

No. She will want the whole amount and she'll want it to go to herself not to split with Jon. If TLC has to pay the same they're gonna throw in more gimmes for them - gimme a two hour Cmas special, etc.
Although even there her income will remain the same pretty much since she and Jon were sharing that before. She still has all the same stuff to pay for. Big house, her own condo, SUV, mucho spa action.
I am thinking TLC will want to negotiate her down for next year since she's a PR liability now and she will let her inner "Don't Cross Me, MF's" Control freak come out and it will be clash of the Titans!

Kate battles TLC - let her fight someone her own size, she has sharpened her claws on Jon.

Go away Jon said...

@Momof3

Its a shame Jon's mother can't show the same 'unconditional love' for her own grandchildren. Frankly I would rather see Grandma Gosselin visiting her grandkids who are dealing with divorced parents and need support..Jon claims she is too busy with her own life..I really don't respect that and as for the Vegas trip I guess its good he had Mama along for support since he came off as quite foolish

LP said...

The ratings will continue to decline. I believe that House has been moved to Monday nights.

Viva Las Jon said...

Sophie

Yes I am sure many people would love to see Jon finally get a job. Do you really think any job he gets will not indirectly still be riding off of the fame of his kids somehow? Of course it will. Jon will not go back to an IT career..in his eyes he is far above that now. I guarantee you whatever he finds it will have a connection to his kids and that is still rather pathetic. As an adult he should find his own path and not find his identity/career through his children's fame..I have no respect for a man who would ride the coat-tails of his kids fame..which, thanks to their parents, has somewhat become 'infamy'

sam said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
...knowing every day that my dad was just a good man, responsible, respectable, a hard working Civil Engineer who supported his 5 kids.....But I have to respectfully disagree that Jon 'can't go back to IT'. Why not?

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To be realistic, a civil engineer's salary is way more than an IT guy. Civil engineers are less likely to get laid off than IT guys. It requires more skills to be an civil engineer. Your dad has 5 kids. Jon has 8. 3 more kids make the whole world of difference.

Too late for Jon to go back and study civil engineer after 6 more children popped out. If we all had crystal ball telling us how many children we will have and how much money we need to pay the bills/raise them, we would all try much harder learning a more high paid skill, wouldn't we? But we didn't know nothing. That's called being youth.

If it's 1999, you say Jon should go back to IT. Maybe yes. It's 2009, we are in the worst of economy. Every few weeks, you hear someone you know lose his job or everybody is scared of losing his job. There is nothing wrong Jon wants to take a leap of faith to get into some business as long as it doesn't involve his children working.

Good for you to have a wonderful father.

The million said...

Sorry. Yes ratings were 1.5 million viewers for the Ranch episode and 1.9 mil for the Battleship episode.

CheryB said...

Not sure where to post this. Just now on the TMZ tv show, they showed a clip of all of the kids playing wild and screaming in the yard, then out of nowhere one of the girl tups smacks one of the dogs with a large red bat! They ran it twice. Then the host of the show said where are their parents while they are acting like this, then cuts to jon in Vegas.

Sorry for all of the run ons. I am mad. It is not on their website yet. I hope they put it on after the show goes off.

Connie said...

@ Ohio Buckeye...

I would suggest that any legitimate job, business opportunity, or career path that doesn't exploit the children is acceptable. And then as soon as I typed this I laughed because, outside of stopping the exploitation, who are we to tell Jon OR Kate Gosselin what type of job they should get and what is or is not acceptable. I hear what you're saying and understand your concerns, but I keep asking, once this show is off the air and the kids are no longer in the public view, should we still involve ourselves in their lives. I think not but that's my opinion.

So, who are we to say what Jon OR Kate should or should not do other than give their children back their private lives. Key word being PRIVATE. There's so much they could have done differently and probably should do differently in the future, but I just don't see how that's for us to decide. One of my concerns is that there are so many vicious, hateful and down right obscene statements on the net about Jon & Kate, and at times the children themselves. And yes, I know J&K have to ultimately take the responsibility for that but when I think of Cara or Mady or any of the kids some day reading these comments, I just hurt for them. J&K have put them in this position, but we the public are putting the words out on the net and somehow it's become okay to use violent, vile language to express our feelings.

You were blessed with a wonderful childhood. So was I. And I was taught to have good manners, be kind to animals and small children and to treat others how I want to be treated. It seems like that's gotten lost somewhere along the way. It just makes me very sad when I read some of the terrible things that are being said. Sorry, I didn't mean to ramble. This has just been on my mind for quite some time.

DawnSi said...

The show is painful to watch. I am continually amazed at how much attention Kate gives the camera and how little she gives her children.

Connie said...

pubic enemy said...

TLC interns need to stop spreading rumors like Jon bought Haily this and that. Who is the source? Not one person is a named source. The stores are not coming out to be the named source either. Can we see the receipt? Merchant's copy, please? It's stupid. Why wouldn't the stores come out and get publicity? You bet they would love to brag about it and get some free advertisement.

If Jon buys anything, it's for Haily? Can he buy a piece of Jewelry for his mom? For God's sake, his mommy went to Vegas pool party for making it a clean event. Poor mommy kept her privacy all along, now she has to come out to stand by her son as "the douche's mom". I would buy her jewelry if I knew her. It's not fun being stared at as the public enemy's mom.
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I'm smilin' here, and I think you're right. Everything has been suggested...little has had fact or proof attached to it. I feel very sorry for Jon's mom. Very little was ever said about her and then she made an appearance in Jon's life last weekend. Now everyone's ready to let her know just what she should or should not be doing in all of this and how she is neglecting her grandchildren. And we wonder why the Jon and Kate families are not coming forward. Would you if you knew you and your life were going to be put under a microscope? I don't blame them one bit.

Connie said...

Do we think Kate should be looking for a job as well? Go back to nursing? Not much has been said about that lately.

Go away Kate said...

LOL..does anyone think Kate would ever go back to nursing? He!! no..she is far too good for that now and her aspirations and 'big dreams' have no place for a nursing career..As if Kate would settle for a lower wage than the $$$$$$$ she is making now! She would go back to nursing kicking and screeching and I never see that happening

Kategate said...

Connie said:

'Do we think Kate should be getting a job as well?'

Well, I guess we all have our own thoughts on that:) Of course Kate should get a job, a REAL one that does not involve exploiting or profiting off of her children. The thing is Kate really loves the money, freebies, perks, attention she gets from expoiting her kids so I do not see her getting a real job anytime soon.

Avary said...

I remember reading somewhere that if viewership goes under $2 million, TLC won't be making enough profit to make the show worthwhile. Did anyone read this? I wonder if it's true.

Sandy said...

Connie

Kate go back to nursing? What a horrifying thought. I certainly would not let her anywhere near me if I had the misfortune of requiring a nurse! She lacks the compassion, intelligence and heart that is so important in that field

realitybites said...

Not surprised to read that ratings for the J & K + 8 show continue to decline. The show's original premise was about 'raising two sets of multiples' NOT the re-invented 'I Can Do' mommy dearest Kate attempting to go back in time to 'make up' for how shitty she treated her children for the past 3years!!!

AnneMarie said...

The lower ratings might also be a release from the contract. If the show drops below a certain number of viewer shares, the show would stop and they would be bought out of their contract and the show stopped, but still retain rights for residuals.

Interesting way to get out of a contract without really trying.

Ms.Peach said...

CheryB said...
Not sure where to post this. Just now on the TMZ tv show, they showed a clip of all of the kids playing wild and screaming in the yard, then out of nowhere one of the girl tups smacks one of the dogs with a large red bat! They ran it twice. Then the host of the show said where are their parents while they are acting like this, then cuts to jon in Vegas.

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It's not just Jon, Kate is the dominant hitter in that family. The kids are just doing what they have learned, but those dogs need to be in a new home.

BTW, to the poster about the 1 million viewers----yes, I believe it was Z from the Baltimore Sun who said that if it hits that mark, the show is not profitable.

MomInOhio said...

I stopped watching the show a few months ago, and I have to agree with a lot of your other writers that your recaps are MUCH more entertaining than the show ever was! I am saddened to see that TLC is still running and filming this train wreck of a show. I did write to TLC to let them know that they have lost one more viewer because of their irresponsible programming.

goawayfools said...

Viva Las Jon, I agree that any job Jon may have in the future will probably be riding on the fame of his kids, at least indirectly. But let's be fair here. Kate has been riding on the notoriety of her children since the sextuplets were IN UTERO and shows no signs of stopping. Her efforts to appear as a supermom hint that she will not stop using those kids for fame and fortune. As silly as the Vegas party was, at least it did not involve the kids, although it would have embarrassed them had they seen pictures of their dad. Both patents are guilty, but Kate has been much more opportunistic with regards to the exploitation of those kids.

Im_in_PR said...

Jaded Mind said
"My granddaughter is a preemie as are these children. She is just slightly behind developmentally and it is to be expected with preemies. The comparison is ridiculous. The fact that these kids are being exploited should be the focus. I agree wholeheartedly with momoffour."

Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with the kids being delayed as it relates to their premature birth. I fully support them being in JR. Kindergarten as opposed to regular k5.

And while I do compare them to my now 5 year old who was full term but born a month after the Gosselin tups, I also had a preemie myself, although he is now a strapping 18 year old. But even for his prematurity, he was not near as verbally delayed as the Gosselin kids are.
But, I was a stay at home mom who read to my child multiple times every day.
So my personal opinion, based on having a premie myself is that yes, some of their delays seem normal for preemies, but their serious verbal delays seem to be more the end result of unattentitive parenting, rather than premature birth.

Gritting my teeth said...

Kate does not know how to interact with her children. I agree with Mrs. Know It All who watched earlier episodes of Kate bouncing those poor boys up and down in the crib, almost angrily. And yes,it was Hannah who made the mistake of pooping in a diaper while she slept. Kate stood Hannah up on the very unsteady changing table totally naked and covered with poop. "Don't touch me," she yelled at poor Hannah who was only trying to keep her balance... All the while being filmed for people to laugh at her someday.
Remember when K&J played "Duck, duck, goose" with the kids? At one point Kate grabbed Collin(I think) pushed him on the floor roughly, patted him quite hard on his back, and then flung him aside. It bothered me to see not only that, but also the sort of angry, satisfied look she had on her face. "I love my kids," is all an act. Kate only likes the money they bring in. Kate does not like children.

Don't forget said...

Great recap! How could you forget to mention that the dentist office (where jon's dad used to practice) has new flavored gloves, but, I'm sure that was just a co-winkie-dinkie ;)

goodlaugh said...

stopthemaddness said...

"playing at ocean with only camera hog Mother to rescue them if she even notices...and... unpaid wage earners with a wooden spoon as their motivation"

Excellent points made in your post and I know serious subject matter, but these two lines had me cracking up. :)

Snerk said...

Referencing buying them out of the contract, doesn't happen. In TV contracts if the show ends, so does their jobs even if it is mid-season. Every one of those that I've seen always has an opt out clause for the network. So when TLC cancels, it's done and paychecks stop. Residuals are going to be non-existent for the first seasons and only on seasons four and five if the Gosselins were able to negotiate them in. They're going to be pennies for a reality show.

CherylB said...

Ms.Peach, I hope I didn't sound like I was putting the hitting problem on Jon. They both share equal blame. The point TMZ was making is while the kids "were going Michael Vick on the dogs", Neither parent was there. Since no one seems to get any Pics of Kate when she isn't there, they showed Jon in Vegas. The nanny that we have seen was there and so was the old white van. I feel like I am the only one that saw this. I keep checking the TMZ website to see if they have posted the video yet.

She hit the dog twice. Next it may be one of the kids.

Viva Las Jon said...

@Goawayfools

I definitely agree that Kate and Jon are equally to blame and that Kate is more opportunistic..I should have clarified that in my post and Kate is far worse IMO

yeaisaidthat said...

Had a thought said...
As much as I dislike Kate, I must admit she has very good PR telling her how to act and what to say so she will appear to be the "good" parent. Yes, Jon, she did abuse you and you put up with it! Get a clue, Jon, and start cleaning up your act too! Dress better, take some speech lessons. Get some good PR advice and SOON, or greedy Kate will take you to the cleaners!


Maybe for Jon its not about placating to the public or what some PR firm feels he SHOULD be doing or ACT to APPEAR the 'better' parent. Perhaps for Jon, the ONLY individuals he has to prove anything by are his CHILDREN and if at the end of the day HE feels confident in knowing he did right by his CHILDREN (not the public, tabloids, TLC, or a PR firm) then thats for his CHILDREN to ultimately be the JUDGE of. IMO, if a parent requires the necessity of a PR firm to 'instruct' them how to ACT like a parent, then that parent is doing just that, ACTING.

shell said...

ohio buckeye said
As far as providing for 8 kids, well, yeah, that's a tough one, but then again, he went along with the plan for fertility treatments (X3!) and then followed that up with an agreement not to selectively reduce the pregnancy or limit the # of embryo's implanted. THEN he apparently went along with another dumb decision, which was to buy the acred mansion. It's JMO that it's time now to face the consequences of the decisions he made or at least went along with.
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where did you get this info from they didn't have embryos implanted, they just did intrauterine insemination with fertily meds

Connie said...

yeaisaidthat said...
Had a thought said...
As much as I dislike Kate, I must admit she has very good PR telling her how to act and what to say so she will appear to be the "good" parent. Yes, Jon, she did abuse you and you put up with it! Get a clue, Jon, and start cleaning up your act too! Dress better, take some speech lessons. Get some good PR advice and SOON, or greedy Kate will take you to the cleaners!


Maybe for Jon its not about placating to the public or what some PR firm feels he SHOULD be doing or ACT to APPEAR the 'better' parent. Perhaps for Jon, the ONLY individuals he has to prove anything by are his CHILDREN and if at the end of the day HE feels confident in knowing he did right by his CHILDREN (not the public, tabloids, TLC, or a PR firm) then thats for his CHILDREN to ultimately be the JUDGE of. IMO, if a parent requires the necessity of a PR firm to 'instruct' them how to ACT like a parent, then that parent is doing just that, ACTING.
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Yes, as much as Jon might stumble and bumble along, I find it refreshing that at least it seems to be the real him, warts and all. And the children seem to love him just that way. There's nothing worse than trying to figure out the angle coming from the mouth of a manipulator like Kate. Everything has a double purpose or meaning and there seems to be a dark side to her.

Grrrrr said...

She hit the dog twice. Next it may be one of the kids.
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What scares me is that if one of the dogs really gets hurt, it might bite a child. ANY dog, no matter how gentle or how well-trained, will bite if it's in pain.
I cannot believe the children don't know better.
Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!
(Now I've really dated myself!)

stopthemadness said...

I think Jon needs better PR or a good lawyer not in order to seem like a better parent than he is but in order to be counselled to shut his mouth before he torpedoes all the goodwill he has as being a decent parent, by being out there trash talking his wife... even if, especially if, she is doing it to him. Because if he maintains his dignity then slowly the camera lense turns back onto the mother - why are you going on Larry King and Today show to whine and lick your sores, your husband is quietly attending to his life including his parenting duties when it is his turn...

Connie said...

Besides the children there is only one other person Jon has to prove anything to and that's the judge in divorce court. And it sounds like that's coming up very soon.

goawayfools said...

I am so disheartened to hear that one of the kids hit one of those gorgeous dogs with a plastic bat. This is so NOT OKAY. I suspect the kids think hitting is normal as I doubt this was done maliciously. But most people are taught as kids to treat dogs gently and lovingly. Loved dogs are often treated like babies by their owners, complete with baby talk, kisses and treats, and this is how it should be. Usually dog breeders will take back any of their puppies, even years later, if for some reason the owners can't provide a good home for them. I am beginning to wonder if these dogs need to be rescued, although they seem truly bonded to Jon. This is another example of their self involved parents not taking the time to educate the kids. Sigh...I am getting depressed. The whole Gosselin situation is just sad. God bless those kids and those dogs

stopthemadness said...

I think both Jon and Kate feel they have to prove something to the world at large, or why the interviews? Those are not for the judge or if they are, very bad strategy.

I hope the judge assigns someone to represent the kids' interests and tells the parents that they brought this on themselves through their actions - these aren't just any kids, they are hugely marketable, a brand - therefore custody of them comes with lots of $$$ - Something everyone involved understands.

Christine said...

Kate is so socially awkward. Whenever an outsider (such as the rancher or the trail guide) asks her a question, she responds not to that person, but to someone on her camera crew. She literally responds to every situation and conversation by making faces, rolling her eyes, and whispering dramatic "asides" to her crew and producers. It must be so painful to interact with that woman.

HowRude said...

Yes, Kate is socially awkward and just plain rude. She said a rancher guy asked her to dance but she was "exhausted." Well, what's new. Couldn't she have been a good sport and danced a bit, instead of being rude and snobby.

Connie said...

stopthemadness said...
I think both Jon and Kate feel they have to prove something to the world at large, or why the interviews? Those are not for the judge or if they are, very bad strategy.

I hope the judge assigns someone to represent the kids' interests and tells the parents that they brought this on themselves through their actions - these aren't just any kids, they are hugely marketable, a brand - therefore custody of them comes with lots of $$$ - Something everyone involved understands.


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Sorry if I made it unclear. I wasn't suggesting Jon was giving interviews to impress the judge. Just that the judge is the one person that they both need worry about proving anything to because he/she is the one with the power to decide their fate. It would be good if the children had their own representation in court. In fact, I think it should be mandatory for all children of divorce to have their own representation. They need a voice in court more than either parent. JMO

she's not who she says said...

Kate, a woman who was raised by a Pastor, was closely connected to his church, and NEVER learned "The
Golden Rule" Everything about her is a contridiction.

IUI said...

Kate herself in one of her interviews said that she had IUI (intra-uterine insemination) NOT IVF (in vitro, or implanted embryos) What she had introduces the sperm into the uterus via a syringe, at the right time of the month. Sometimes many eggs implant as in her case.

Now its the poor dogs said...

What child hit the dog with the bat.

stopthemadness said...

connie, what a different situation it would be if kids were represented in divorce cases and not just their parents!! you're right they do need the representation more than the adults who can speak for themselves and fight tooth and nail to get what they want regardless of the kids.

But alas, they are property to be divided up, not people, at this age, at least until someone steps up for them

Melissa said...

Sheesh, what child that young gets cavities? Are you kidding me? Is anybody brushing those kids' teeth?

Do they seriously drink straight Juicy Juice? With my nephew, we water it down *IF* he ever gets real juice. Have you ever looked at the sugar content of that stuff?

I thought Kate was all about organic and healthy. "We're giving them a gift." Hey Kate, juice loaded with refined sugar IS NOT A GIFT. The only gift was for YOU - you didn't pay for it.

Why are they still giving these idiots free stuff?

Pa Mom Knows said...

IUI said:

Kate herself in one of her interviews said that she had IUI (intra-uterine insemination) NOT IVF (in vitro, or implanted embryos) What she had introduces the sperm into the uterus via a syringe, at the right time of the month. Sometimes many eggs implant as in her case.
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Really? Where did you read that? The accounts all along have been that she had her ovaries stimulated, which resulted in OVER-stimulation, was told not to have sex, had sex anyway, and the tups were conceived. There was no egg implantation, no syringes involved in any insemination process.

AJ said...

Kate goes back to nursing. No way! She might abuse the elder and anyone who can't defend himself. I am sure verbal abuse will take place at least. Physical abuse? Let's just say she won't be gentle when she has to clean a patient.

Their kid hit the dog? Are you surprised. Kids learn that behavior from Kate. Kate slapped Jon's arm so often. It's not a secret Kat believes in spanking children. Then the girl took her frustration out on the dog. Wrong on so many levels. Jon would never hit the dog. I have never even seen Jon spank his children.

Where's PeTA said...

Can PETA do something about that Gosselin kid smacked the dog twice?

PETA, please help. Re-educate the children.

From Kate's own mouth said...

Yes, on an online site of hers, she explained it. I am a maternity nurse and YES I am familiar with IUI, Kate did have the proceedure, and yes she also took fertility drugs leading to the overstimulation of the ovaries which in turn released more eggs. It was over a year ago on their own site that Kate explained it. So no I didn't READ it, I heard it from her own mouth on her site. Of course she was not going to mention how the IUI is done, just that it WAS done.

Amigo22 said...

Not sure where to post this. Just now on the TMZ tv show, they showed a clip of all of the kids playing wild and screaming in the yard, then out of nowhere one of the girl tups smacks one of the dogs with a large red bat!

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So the bat was red,the same colour as the spoon Kate uses on the kids when they misbehave?

Kate said it herself said...

Kate was always clear during the early filming that she had IUI and she corrected the misunderstanding that she felt people had. She and Jon were both in the first house, (not Etown) when she explained it, so it was years ago (2006?) But Yes, I also remember her mentioning IUI and fertiltiy drugs.

Susan said...

As for the chicken feet, she told one of the boys he must take one when he said he didn't want it, but then made comments about how gross they were. Why force your child to take it if you are going to tell him it's disgusting?

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She was setting them up to be straight men for her stupid joke.

As soon as they all had their chicken feet, she looked into the camera and said "I ask you, what "won't" my kids eat?

kategate09 said...

The whole thing is a big JOKE-the paps outside the Gosselins gate!....just a big joke...WHY do NONE of these photographers follow her when she leaves the house to go to where she stays when its Jon's turn to babysit??? Why don't we see photos of her going there??? Why do they follow her to UPS store? Why do they follow her to Kinkos??? Yet not one photog catches her at her "place" 20 minuts away--I sincerely believe the paps outside the gate are Kate's people, and she she doesnt allow them to show where she stays.

As for the sosugary.com website, it now has pictures up where the photographer is actually in the front passenger seat taking pics of Jon & his Mom in the back seat? Who IS this person? Im thinking he is "with the show' also!

konhasyoufooled said...

I saw the clip on TMZ where the tup hit the dog with the red bat. The narrator must think he is pretty amusing putting all the blame on JON. Not a mention of Kate and where she was. Pretty sickening but yet expected. Funny how Kate is only photographed when SHE wants to be. Is it true the ratings are declining rapidly each week? I hate to say it but that won't be good for the kids. I am sure they will get the blame.

Sweetp said...

Just me said.... "Once I saw Kate in that silly pink hate I turned off the T.V. and plucked my eyebrows instead".

That gave me a belly laugh first thing in the morning!!!

Connie said...

stopthemadness said...
connie, what a different situation it would be if kids were represented in divorce cases and not just their parents!! you're right they do need the representation more than the adults who can speak for themselves and fight tooth and nail to get what they want regardless of the kids.

But alas, they are property to be divided up, not people, at this age, at least until someone steps up for them.
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And the problem is when parents do fight tooth and nail, the children are very often the weapon of choice that's used in the battle. How sad is that.

She's such a phony said...

Kate Gosselin is scheduled to appear as a speaker at the California Women's Conference in October. Please contact Maria Shriver to voice your disapproval and ask for her removal from the speakers' list. She can be contacted at:

First Lady Maria Shriver
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160

She's such a phony said...

This message was posted on the message boards at the View Site:

At a book signing in Sarasota, FL, Karoline Byler, mom of 2-year-old sextuplets (5 boys, 1 girl)brought her kids to meet Kate, figuring it'd be a learning experience as two moms who had gone through the same experience of raising multiples.

Byler waited on line for 45 minutes with her kids, and said Kate barely acknowledged her. In fact Kate wanted to know why she had brought the kids before quickly moving on to the next purchaser signing. How could she not get up and hug the kids? Is she THAT CLUELESS?!@? This would've been a great photo op for her. Oh wait, someone else would've been the focus of the picture, oops I forgot.

How can a real mom not bond with another mother who has been in that rare of a situation? How could she not take 5 minutes to talk to Karoline Byler??? GET KATE OFF THE VIEW!!!!

The article is at tampabay.com, search sextuplets.

Everyone keep writing the View - there are over 375 messages left there regarding Khate's scheduled appearance - 96% against her!

Paid Paps said...

So if the paps are real and not paid by the Gosselin machine, the pictures of the kids hitting the dogs will come out. If the pictures don't surface we know that the paps are not hounding them and that the one or two we see filmed are paid by them.

stopthemadness said...

Very.

They had siad they would focus on getting their kids thru this and be silent. Neither is doing that, although I'm sure whoever wrote the press release had a good idea in mind.

The comments on radar online are so foul to Jon you wonder if these are Kate's paid people although i would hope she could find people with better education to do such a chore or if they really have nothing to do all day but lurk radaronline for photos of Jon and then pounce on each one to say what a loser he is - five times each. It's frightening to think anyone is so invested in the Jon vs Kate hate battle or has bought into what has to be part pre-custody positioning and part PR to try and get the ratings back up.

Roll on the cancellation. I think that from what I have seen of Kate in the last few shows she is sick of those cameras being there too and just wants to make sure she has another gig before she lets them cancel the show "for the kids."

Which is why I hope she will get some other offer, leave the kids out of it, do a Cmas special and a summer special or something if they must but stop the madness on this 30 episode deal.

They put a lot of thought into the wedding one (too bad it was completely fake) but now are going thru the motions. WHo came up with Dude ranch?

Maybe they could resurrect the Love Connection or whatever that old show was - Dating game? - where the gal is behind the curtain and the three contestants have to answer stupid questions "if you were a shampoo would you want me to buy you, and why?"

Not sure if Kate would be a contestant or the host.The next guy who marries her better have his own version of a psychological wooden spoon. I cannot imagine what it would take to stop her in her desire to have things her way, all the time, immediately.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

kategate09 said...
The whole thing is a big JOKE-the paps outside the Gosselins gate!....just a big joke...WHY do NONE of these photographers follow her when she leaves the house to go to where she stays when its Jon's turn to babysit??? Why don't we see photos of her going there??? Why do they follow her to UPS store? Why do they follow her to Kinkos??? Yet not one photog catches her at her "place" 20 minuts away--I sincerely believe the paps outside the gate are Kate's people, and she she doesnt allow them to show where she stays.

As for the sosugary.com website, it now has pictures up where the photographer is actually in the front passenger seat taking pics of Jon & his Mom in the back seat? Who IS this person? Im thinking he is "with the show' also!

9/03/2009 3:47 AM
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So totally agree with your first statement. I've thought/said that all along. Way to controlled with the pictures. Paps like the "unexpected shot" - not the normal one anyone else can spot.

As for your last statement - that looks more like the plane to me (?) Just guessing - but looks more along the lines of a private jet? But again - VERY close, VERY controlled.

junebug said...

This may be top secret but...does anyone know if Kate bought the Maryland condo? I heard that it may have fallen through but that was it.

lifeoriley said...

Re: Kate said it herself
Yes, she did say she used fertility drugs and IUI--the confusion comes in, has has been discussed on this site, when whe talks about being hospitalized for over-stimulated ovaries, and then, is pregnant with the tups. She doesn't directly address why or how the insemination would take place so soon afterwards when the medical protocol is to skip the cycle and wait for the woman's ovaries to "calm down." Hence the assumtion that maybe she and Jon had unprotected sex during the time her ovaries were hyper-stimulated. Kate has given very vague, "political-speaker-type" answers when speaking about conceiving the tups. Why did she switch fertility doctors (after having been successful with twins)? Why would an ethical doctor do IUI on a woman with over-stimulated ovaries?

Susan said...

I thought Kate was all about organic and healthy. "We're giving them a gift." Hey Kate, juice loaded with refined sugar IS NOT A GIFT. The only gift was for YOU - you didn't pay for it.
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It always irritated me the way Kate misunderstood what "organic" did and didn't mean. She once said "I always let them pick out a candy when we are in an all organic store because it's healthy". Arrrggh!! I wanted to reach into the t.v. and give her a good slap! Just because something is organic does NOT mean it is healthy or nutritious. Shoot, even poison can be organic.

Kate said it herself said...

lifeoriley, You are correct. She refused to wait and rushed the proceedures along which should have waited. At the time she was working as a nurse and I am sure that she knew the Doctor that agreed with her. THAT is why she is SO vague. Medically (I am a maternity Nurse) it does not make sound medical sense.

Andrea Murdock said...

STOPTHEMADNESS: she will let her inner "Don't Cross Me, MF's" Control freak come out and it will be clash of the Titans!

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Freakin hilarious! What makes it even funnier is that you know it is going to happen. :)

stopthemadness said...

If Kate wanted a baby and had a bunch of eggs I am sure she would brook NO interference with her desire to get pregnant ASAP whatevver Jon wanted or the doctor advised.

As we've seen she does not take no for an answer and has to have her way regardless. She was probably hurrying to get pg again before Jon could have a chance to have a vasectomy. He supposedly agreed to this second pregnancy but then it was supposedly to have ONE child not a litter. Who knows what the real conversation was.I would hate to be the person who got in between her and her instant gratification.

winsomeone said...

If you google "dude ranches in PA", you will find that PA has numerous very nice ones listed. Also, the scenery in parts of the state are breath taking. Wonder why they had to go all of the way to Wyoming to ride horses? Just a single mother trying to cope though...NOT!!!

winsomeone said...

I found it odd that none of the boys knew how to shake hands with the ranch owner, when he offered his hand to them. The last boy finally did shake, but the other two slapped at him..a "high five" maybe? Still, not appropriate when meeting someone.

If you were taking three five year olds a thousand miles away to a ranch, wouldn't you tell them the difference between a horse and cow before you left, although surely most three year olds even know this. Also, explain a bit about what ranchers do? I thought Kate liked trips to be learning experiences for them?

The rancher's wife had to tell them not to kick the chickens, and also to not pull at the kittens legs.

No one has bothered to teach those poor boys any manners at all, and they treat living things like gnats to slap out of the way.Usually little kids like animals, and may squeeze or hug them too hard, but kick at them?

Swiss miss said...

A long time ago, Kate said that she doesn't want to ever return to nursing.

Someone interviewed people she had worked with, and no one had a positive thing to say about her. I know, what a shocker!

blackisthenewblack said...

Thank you to those of you who have already commented on Kate's clothing/shoe choices once again. Um, yeah, hi...she knows 'on this episode of J&K+8' that she is going to a "dude ranch" and yet puts on high heels anyhow and then just *has to* comment to the audience on her footwear choice as not appropriate? Really? Was it a big shocker, Kate, that hi heels and horse poop don't mix?

As I have mentioned before, someone needs to do something about that woman's wardrobe. IMO she's not helping herself gain any kind of credibility by trying to look like she's one of Jon's new twenty-something girlfriends!! PUHLEESE!

What? said...

About Jon getting an IT job. He doesn't have a degree, from what I have heard. Just just has a piece of paper saying he went to a class for whatever it was he needed. IT jobs is NOT easy to find. My husband is in the field, has a Bach's degree plus going up to 10 years exp with it. It would be damn hard for him to find a job with this, if he lost his current one. Just because Jon is Jon, no sign he can get a job whenever. He would be lucky to find a job as a contractor for 3 months, then you have to have luck to find another contracting job. It's not as easy as people think. People seem think that just because it's computer related, the job field is wide open. It's not!

Denise said...

"As for the sosugary.com website, it now has pictures up where the photographer is actually in the front passenger seat taking pics of Jon & his Mom in the back seat? Who IS this person? Im thinking he is "with the show' also!"

If you look closely, the pap is taken the picture through the windshield. You can see the reflection.

anotherthing said...

sooooo glad i didnt waste my time and/or damage any of my brain cells by watching this mess. wow. sound slike its gone from bad to worse.

every recap i read it seems more and more evident that these kids are messed up in the head from this (and in large part kates revolting mothering)...

so many great comments have summed up how i feel so i will add is a big fat 'ditto'...

Susan said...

I think she knew exactly what she was doing wearing the high heels into the chicken coop. If she had worn appropriate shoes how would she have made that scenerio be about her? It would have been about the boys and the chickens. Instead, she could go ewww? shriek!! ewww!! look at me!

What really saddens me is seeing how little nurturing the boys get. They are far too young to have the pressure of being "men" thrust upon them. In a rerun today she mentions how the girls hang out with her in the kitchen because they like to talk! and the boys are by themselves in a different part of the house. No wonder the girls are so much more advanced. They received a lot more attention from their mother. At the ranch, she did not touch them once much less hug/cuddle. I don't remember any touching in last weeks episode either.

Regarding The Double Agent said...

As for the sosugary.com website, it now has pictures up where the photographer is actually in the front passenger seat taking pics of Jon & his Mom in the back seat? Who IS this person? Im thinking he is "with the show' also!

9/03/2009 3:47 AM
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Yes, I do believe it is a "double-agent" whose job it is to keep Kate and TLC up to snuff on what the posters are posting about.

It was not natural for Kate to have spoken with such admiration for her little "icky" boys at the end of the Dude Ranch episode.

Said something to the effect at how honored she was to be the mother of these amazing men. She didn't call them boys or young men, she called them "men."

I guess they thought it was the highest degree of adulation to call them men, because she often speaks so disparingly of men. Now we know she loves men! Even 5-year-old icky little boys are now men, and she loves them so much!

Merrilee said...

As I have mentioned before, someone needs to do something about that woman's wardrobe. IMO she's not helping herself gain any kind of credibility by trying to look like she's one of Jon's new twenty-something girlfriends!! PUHLEESE!

9/03/2009 11:24 AM
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Boy, you said a mouthful! Those silly dresses she wears were never meant for large women. She is not at all fat, but she isn't a small person.

Only tiny women, very petite women, look good in that type of get up, and very young women at that. She ain't tiny and she ain't a 'tween any more.

goawayJandK said...

It always irritated me the way Kate misunderstood what "organic" did and didn't mean. She once said "I always let them pick out a candy when we are in an all organic store because it's healthy". Arrrggh!! I wanted to reach into the t.v. and give her a good slap! Just because something is organic does NOT mean it is healthy or nutritious. Shoot, even poison can be organic.

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Susan, I have posted this as a question to K8 on this and other sites. I would love for someone to ask K8 if she knows what ORGANIC really means ?

In her half brain, she correlates ORGANIC with upper class & wealthy. It has nothing to do with the health factor or support of local farms ( Gosselins go green? What a joke !), lack of pesticides, etc.

I cannot stand this woman, I really cannot.

Melissa said...

It always irritated me the way Kate misunderstood what "organic" did and didn't mean. She once said "I always let them pick out a candy when we are in an all organic store because it's healthy". Arrrggh!! I wanted to reach into the t.v. and give her a good slap! Just because something is organic does NOT mean it is healthy or nutritious. Shoot, even poison can be organic.

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Thank you, Susan! I wonder if she even reads labels, or just takes whatever she wants that has an 'organic' label.

I myself eat as much organic/natural and free range as I can, but some of the stuff has TERRIBLE nutritional value, especially the candies and cereals, they're exploding with sugar and preservatives. You HAVE to do the research or it's pointless.

No wonder her kids have cavities. Pretty soon they're all going to get round bellies.

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