Branding the Gosselin™ Family

Submitted for publication via email by mtnmom.

I have been on your blog since its inception (I have comments on one of the first posts) and "hung out" with you guys on TWoP. I just finished reading your Question and Answer section and wanted to comment a bit on the following question (see below):

QUESTION: Can you shed some light on the sponsors. Do the producers contact Crayola and ask to come film or is it the other way around. Also does TLC pay for everything on the trips and outings such as the trip to Utah or the special days or do the Gosselins also contribute? I remember Jon mentioning something about setting aside money to allow for these special days.

ANSWER: It is our impression that Figure 8 Films or TLC approach the venues. They then tell Jon and Kate where they are going. Anything that is filmed for the show is paid for by Figure 8/TLC. They paid for the trips to Disney World and Utah and all the amusement parks. We don't know for sure, but they probably also pay for the gas... and for any "helpers" who are "needed" to go along. I'm sure that Beth did not finance her trip to Utah. We do not know who paid for Beth and her 3 daughters to be waiting at Disney World.

I think that a LOT of viewers/readers believe that Figure 8 Films/TLC are the ones that PAY for things. In fact, it is the businesses that are shown (Juicy Juice, P&G, Southwest Air, Utah, etc.) that provide their services for FREE in exchange for being shown on TV. It is a well-known form of advertising, and much more preferred than buying a billboard or commercial for the business as it shows REAL people consuming/using/enjoying their product.

I also have a bit of "inside" knowledge. My husband works as the PR Manager for a very well-known local business here in northern Nevada. He promotes their nationally-known annual event. Because of Jon & Kate's popularity (whether positive or negative), his company offered Jon & Kate and family AND helpers an all-expenses-paid trip to our area.

My husband had trips planned for them to Lake Tahoe and many other activities that would appeal to the whole family (Spa Day, anyone?), as well as royal treatment during this annual event. In exchange, their trip/excursions would be shown on an episode (or two), much like the ski trip in Utah was handled. Many, many local businesses (as well as our area tourism board) were excited and planning on giving their services for free because of the potential national exposure. Although Jon & Kate never replied to the offer themselves, Figure 8 films was very, very interested (I do have proof and emails from Figure 8 films, if needed.).

Unfortunately, schedules were not able to coordinate this year for this to happen, but my husband will work on it for next year. (And I will be sure to keep you guys informed.) I do need to clarify, though. We are NOT fans or sheeple, but do find the whole train wreck amusing. (Our 8-year-old daughter was very excited, though!) This was just a (brilliant) idea for publicity and advertising for my husband's company, and our local area.

74 comments:

Anonymous said...

The information regarding the business/visits/trips by the Gosselins is very interesting. If the family selects a venue near your company or house, I hope your daughter is not treated as so many have been in epidsodes that have been filmed.

Libby said...

Wow, thanks for the information on how things work. I find it hard to believe that J&K would turn down the "royal" treatment but if it was a scheduling thing then I guess they must have been busy with another free trip somewhere else?! They have proven how much they like free stuff!

FIONA said...

How long ago did the Gosselin's turn this down?

Why were the G's picked, do you know?

thanks in advance

Anonymous said...

Spa day... royal treatment... I've never been to a spa or received royal treatment: don't those types of trips cause the show to lose viewers? Maybe the Gosselins would agree to go on the free trip if your husband offered the Gosselins money. The Gosselins would never turn down an offer of money.

hellokitty said...

"I've never been to a spa or received royal treatment: don't those types of trips cause the show to lose viewers?"

It seems as though the longer the show goes on, the further it drifts from reality. Not only for those that are directly involved (family). But as a viewer, what is there to relate to? If this show manages to stay on the air, surely you would think that TLC would realize this point.

I watched as a fan, then I watched disgusted, and now I don't watch at all.

Barbara in VA said...

Did you say your husband, on behalf of the company, will be working on bringing Kon to Nevada next year and, along with other companies, showering them with free services and things like the royalty they seem to think they are? If that is what you said, please try to persuade your husband and the other local companies to find some other, more worthy persons upon whom to shower these wonderful things. Maybe you could ask your husband to give a soldier's family (many have virtually nothing while their loved ones are overseas fighting) this honor? Maybe these local companies don't even realize what Kon has been given, how they are exploiting the kids and how they are behaving -- and how little they will appreciate anything you do for them. Surely there is some other way to bring publicity and advertising to your area.

ThreeFarmers said...

What we have to consider is that the Gosselins are probably getting dozens and dozens (dare I say hundreds) of these types of offers, especially since all it costs the company is product or service. I'm sure some level of a cash buy might be associated with the product placement if the company wants more than just product placement.

But, ya know, as long as they don't have to buy their own Juicy Juice, who cares. Right?

Really, for the purposes of the show (and the show is their lives, after all), on many levels, the Gosselins are no longer a family, they are a business.

What happens when the Gosselins make a deal with a company for a product placement involving a child who doesn't want to do it. Mady or Cara doesn't like the toy/outfit/whatever and won't wear it. Do you MAKE the child wear it in order to save the deal or do you save your child the stress? Does Cara or Mady, get treated as an employee or as a little girl? But since the show only exists because of the children, wouldn't that sort of make the child her own boss?

Holy Identity Crisis, Batman!

If the Gosselins get too involved with a specific company, isn't the company calling the shots at that point? Just how much control will the company have over what the children say and do? How will Kate handle that?

I'm thinking Kate will soon be butting heads with some of these sponsors because, as typically happens when you sell yourself out, some of the power and control shifts to whoever has the most money and that won't be the Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

Wow, sending a soldier's family on some kind of wonderful trip or vacation, etc...now THAT would be something worth watching.

Anonymous said...

Like the OP said, the reason these sponsors/companies are interested in the Gosselins is because their products/services will get national exposure on television. The way I see it, the only way to solve this issue is for the television show to go off the air. No show = no wide reaching exposure for sponsors = less freebies for J&K.

former fan quinn said...

I agree with Barbara in VA. Wouldn't it be great if a soldier's family could receive some VIP treatment? Or any other deserving family for that matter? So many of us struggle nowadays especially with how the economy is today!
My husband works his butt off supporting our family. And I work hard too as a stay at home mom. Not to have a pity party, but we basically live paycheck to paycheck as most people do. We would love to take our child to countless amusement parks, camping trips, beach houses, etc etc. But we just can't afford all of that. I realize that the Gosselins are exploiting their children to get all of that of course.
But as the weeks go on and we contunue seeing the Gosselins being pampered and showered with trips and gifts, it's hard to watch. I would have to ask TLC...what are you thinking? With people struggling to buy groceries, pay for gas, and stay in their homes...why do you think America wants to watch Kon? I mean obviously people still watch it but hopefully that will be ending soon. It's too much to take during this rough economic time. It really is. And to see people so ungrateful...I'm just about done with them. The kids are cute and everything but enough is enough. The family is a walking commercial and it's pathetic. What's next, Vtech or Juicy Juice tatoos for the kiddos?

Anonymous said...

Wow. If my husband came home and said he was going to give these people even more freebies, I'd be a little upset. To me that would seem like selling out. Plus, we are anything but fans in this house and he feels the same way. I'm glad we don't have to worry about that though. We are just a lowly "soldier's family" as some others have mentioned above. We don't have any freebies to give.

ThreeFarmers said...

Wow. If my husband came home and said he was going to give these people even more freebies, I'd be a little upset. To me that would seem like selling out. Plus, we are anything but fans in this house and he feels the same way. I'm glad we don't have to worry about that though. We are just a lowly "soldier's family" as some others have mentioned above. We don't have any freebies to give.


For one, you are not a lowly soldier's family and you know that, so don't refer to yourself that way. Honor and bank account are mutually exclusive.

For another, it isn't like her husband is giving them the freebies. It is his company. It is his job to do things like that. If it were up to me to do something for work that happened to involve the Gosselins, I wouldn't like it, but I would do it, because I'll be damned if I'd let SpongeJon & CrabbyKate jeopardize my employment. They are simply not worth that.

If I were the decision-maker for the company, that would be another matter, but I would still do my absolute best to protect my job. Gosselins be damned.

Anonymous said...

While it would be nice if a "deserving" person got these vacations, I don't believe it's really ever been done like that. I remember reading about how real celebrities got a TONNE of freebies just for the national exposure. Even the very wealthy don't have to spend their money on everything they own. (Personally, it would be nice if Figure 8 did a show that was towards giving a deserving family a vacation or a freebie or whatever - like a toned down extreme home makeover).

I also don't think that people are going to turn away from the Gosselins because they come out as living a wealthy lifestyle. I remember reading how during the depression people would make movies that showed wealth and opulance and the people loved it and would come and watch the movies as a means of escape. I imagine people might be watching the Gs and thinking "Hey, they made it in this time of financial difficulty - I can as well." or the viewers might be living vicariously through the Gs - enjoying seeing the places that they themselves can't go.

I also think that the tups growing up won't put off viewers. The viewers who love them have watched every single milestone of their lives, the viewers are invested in these children. They love them, care for them, get exasperated by them. It's like these children are their family.

I hope that Kon's behavior - and perhaps a growing realization that the children are being exploited WILL turn off viewers. Will make them say enough - let them have their privacy, but only time will tell.

Holly said...

Ahhhhh!! I live in Northern Nevada & I don't want their circus brought here!! My kids would LOVE it, but I don't know if I could handle having them in our area LOL. I'm trying to think of what event it could be, but with several widely known events in this area during this time of year, it's hard for me to narrow it down. Any hints? :)

Anonymous said...

As the children grow older, I think we won't have to worry about these trips. As we saw on the Nicu episode, the boys were getting into trouble in the kitcen while there was action in other parts of the house. Soon they'll be slipping away, going on little adventures, yes, playing in the mud; the girls will learn how to say "whatever" in a tone that gives parents chills. They think they had trouble "corraling" these six toddlers through an airport? Traveling with the tups will be its own punishment.

Anonymous said...

More about the differences between
watching the Gosselins and watching movies as a means of escape from reality. I've never been to Europe but I've watched the Griswald's European Vacation movie several times. It's funny and there are chase scenes: it's a form of escapism. I wouldn't want to watch the Gosselin European Vacation show because it wouldn't be entertaining: it wouldn't be funny and there wouldn't be any chase scenes. It would just be a show about a family who was given a free trip to Europe for no apparent reason.

Chris said...

I love northern Nevada. Before I got married hwy 395 was my BFF. I sure hope the Gosselin's don't go there and ruin a great place. I can imagine, though, that Collin and Joel would have a great time (and possibly get dirty!!!)

adri said...

I hope that mtnmom's hubby's company decides that J&K have had enough "royal treatment", and donate this trip to perhaps a family who lost everything in Hurricane Ike, or an Iraqi veteran's family.

lulu said...

The businesses aren't donating to the Gosselins because they are deserving or in need, they are donating to them for the national exposure. They can write off the cost of the items/admission/airfare as advertising. Maybe if there was a TV show about well-deserving families in need being given the *royal treatment*, then businesses/communities could donate a trip, excursions, admission, items to the family. Regular businesses, who are going through the same economy as the rest of us, generally can't afford to give out high dollar freebies without some sort of benefit. So, while it's a nice idea that some *soldier's family* could receive the royal treatment, I really don't know how realistic that is. Just food for thought...

Anonymous said...

I hope that mtnmom's hubby's company decides that J&K have had enough "royal treatment", and donate this trip to perhaps a family who lost everything in Hurricane Ike, or an Iraqi veteran's family.
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Once again, the Gosselins are not receiving this offer because they are deserving; they are receiving this offer because the have camera crews following them around and it's ridiculously good publicity.

I totally appreciate why so many people here would love to see soldiers' families and extremely poor families and families who have gone through horrible circumstances receive all the freebies the Gosselins get, but it's just not realistic in the world of business to give stuff away while receiving nothing in return.

Anonymous said...

The husbands boss might not think it a good idea to put the firm's business on the internet.

Sharla said...

Once again, the Gosselins are not receiving this offer because they are deserving; they are receiving this offer because the have camera crews following them around and it's ridiculously good publicity.

Bottom line is that it's a relatively inexpensive way to reach a few million people audience with their location, venue, or product.

Lana said...

As long as people watch the show, there will be more of these free offers sent their way.

I think it's a two-edge sword for the Gosselins and the producers. If they accept too many of these free trips and gifts, the show will become less real. And the less real it becomes, the more people will be turned off by it; thus losing its popularity.

It just suddenly occurred to me that it must grate on Kate and Jon's nerves that they actually have to spend time filming the show; when in reality all they probably want to do is enjoy the freebies! That's probably why Kate looks so stressed lately. She probably finds sitting on that darn couch a big waste of time; when she could be getting her nails painted instead!

Anonymous said...

insightful post, lana! Kate is anxious for the interviews to end so she can get back to being pampered. LOL!

Anonymous said...

What came first.... the Gosselins eating up freebies or marketing campaigns taking advantage of their fame? Seems that as long as there is one, there is the other. There is a reason why companies are sending their Juicy Juice and vacation packages to this family and not the McCaugheys (septuplets)or the Morrisons (sextuplets) and there is a reason why the Gosselins are becoming more greedy.

Steph said...

Yeah, I think shows like "Extreme Home Makeover" PROVE that audiences love it when people who are needy and appreciative get freebies. Maybe TLC could start a show with Iraq vets coming home, and they get a nice vacation to Disneyworld, Hawaii, OBX, or California for some R&R and to reconnect as a family. I would watch that show and cry every week, like I do with Extreme Home Makeover.

Anonymous said...

Not every family on Extreme Home Makeover is needy. The criteria set forth by the producers of the show is that the family be 'deserving'. The Hawaii show featured a family whose annual income is in excess of $250,000. The selection was a very controversial one.

Anonymous said...

The more I watch this show and the more I read about this family, the sadder and more disgusted I am getting with the Gosselins. There is absolutely nothing deserving or appreciative in them to continuously get the freebies they do. They need help and so do their children. My 10 year old had very similar outbursts as Mady and was devastatingly diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. Money would be better spent on psychiatric and medicinal care for both mother and daughter, than constantly parading their problems on national television. We should all take a stand and turn off the show, then Figure 8 and TLC would realize we mean business in the explotation of these children. I am taking a stand for the 8 Gosselin children, I will not be watching the madness anymore.

Anonymous said...

This is the very thing that pisses people off. You know they people are scam artists, yet you continue to lavish them with free trips and anything else you can think of. These pr people are a huge problem here, and need to be stopped. What the heck are you all excited about? Jon and Kate now expect to be treated like royalty and their attitudes of entitlement is disgusting.
Shame on anyone who continues to pay for these poor excuses of parents.

Anonymous said...

I totally appreciate why so many people here would love to see soldiers' families and extremely poor families and families who have gone through horrible circumstances receive all the freebies the Gosselins get, but it's just not realistic in the world of business to give stuff away while receiving nothing in return
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Sure it is. Think about it. They only reason the Gosselins are on tv is to get ratings and sell products by having them featured on tv. You could put ANY family on there. You *could put a military family on every week if you wanted. People would then see the products. Just like when Dr. Phil or Oprah have a giveaway on their show...I can't fathom why it would have to be the Greedy Gosselins every week!

Anonymous said...

I have definitely wondered before how Kate gets all of the little girls and especially Mady and Cara to dress alike.

Getting my 3 year old dressed every morning is kind of a nightmare (doesn't like both choices, goes through about four other outfits before she finds one that is suitable....it's great fun! ;)), so I am surprised that their kids will just wear whatever is set out for them.

Or maybe it's just my daughter who is a drama queen! haha

It does make me think, though, that they HAVE to wear certain things, or they'll get in trouble, you know?!

Anonymous said...

All the more reason to write to the companies that foot the bill for these trips, etc. Because, without them, there would be no freebies!!!

lifeoriley said...

I agree that I would rather watch a needy family or a family with a more compelling story (than the Gosselins) recieve a free trip or an item that would greatly improve the quality of their lives. I
I love when a talk show gives away something to a person or family dealing with hard times. Who wants to see a TV or movie celebrity get a donation? It's not only boring, but insulting to the average viewer.

Anonymous said...

I live near the Gosselins and I know local businesses are all throwing things at them. It's not solicited by anyone. The show is a hit ratingswise be it good or bad attention, they've got it. Everyone wants their product on the show. People talk about it, it's out there, it's a ton of advertising. If less people talked about it and watched this would stop.

Ilovemykids said...

They need help and so do their children. My 10 year old had very similar outbursts as Mady and was devastatingly diagnosed with bi-polar disorder

Sorry, but that's stretching things WAY too far. IMO, all Mady needs is some loving attention and guidance from her parents on how to behave and to GET THOSE CAMERAS OUT OF HER LIFE.

Barbara in VA said...

Just saw on the Minor Consideration web site that Oprah today is doing her show on exploitation of children (TV? maybe so because PP is interested in it). I hope some of you can watch it and report back to us poor working slobs what was on. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

it's just not realistic in the world of business to give stuff away while receiving nothing in return
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Sure it is. Think about it. They only reason the Gosselins are on tv is to get ratings and sell products by having them featured on tv. You could put ANY family on there.

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But that's exactly my point. If they were giving freebies to a needy family on TV, they *would* be receiving something in return: publicity. However, soldiers' families, poor families, and families who have gone through hardships don't have cameras following them everywhere. To my knowledge, aside from Extreme Home Makeover, there are no shows focused on a different family every week receiving a bunch of freebies.

A show like that would have to be created from scratch. Would ratings be good or bad? The Gosselins already have their own show. They already have good ratings. It makes sense to give freebies to them for the publicity instead of giving freebies to a needy family down the street with no return on the investment except a warm fuzzy feeling.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's business.

Anonymous said...

If I had companies knocking at my door to give me free stuff, I can't honestly say I would be turning them all away. I think the rest of you would be lying if you said otherwise.

It comes down to ratings. As a former television producer, I KNOW that TV is edited to maximize the ratings potential. This show is edited as much as ANY other out there even though they claim it is "reality". Figure 8 films is on a gold mine- as long as blogs like this one are talking about this show (good or bad), they have viewers and viewers mean ratings. Figure 8 is going to do everything they can to keep this show going and we all can talk about it until we're blue in the face.

The only effective response against the show is to stop watching. Period.

Anonymous said...

This is my second attempt at commenting on this post- my first one may have been too strongly-worded for the mods to put it through.........

I am confused by this posting because it seems to completely clash with the ideals that this website represents.

"Unfortunately, schedules were not able to coordinate this year for this to happen, but my husband will work on it for next year. (And I will be sure to keep you guys informed.) I do need to clarify, though. We are NOT fans or sheeple, but do find the whole train wreck amusing. (Our 8-year-old daughter was very excited, though!) This was just a (brilliant) idea for publicity and advertising for my husband's company, and our local area"

- I understand that the first trip was probably offered before many of the truths were known, but to state that another offer will be made next year is incredulous to me

- I don't find anything amusing about the G's situation

- describing this freebie trip as a "brilliant idea for publicity" sounds like you are ok with supporting the exploitation for the sake of publicity

I just don't get it. Isn't this site supposed to be rallying against this type of thing? Why am I writing to the Grand Wailea (among others) to express my disappointment and concern when the poster's family's company is doing the same thing by offering a lavish, FREE trip all for the sake of publicity?

I am truly confused as to why this post is on this site.

Serena said...

I am truly confused as to why this post is on this site.

This blog entry was published as an exposition, not as an endorsement.

It takes two parties to exploit children -- the parents of those children, and entities such as Figure 8 Films or the Nevada corporation that tried unsuccessfully to woo the Gosselins.

We published it in the interest of broadening the awareness of people who are concerned about this issue... to let them know what goes on behind the scenes. When I read this email I was appalled at the naked greed and total lack of concern for who was going to end up paying the price so that some corporation could pursue its "brilliant idea for advertising and publicity". It was even worse to read that the author considers the Jon & Kate Plus Eight show to be a train wreck described as "amusing".

We aren't at all amused by the train wreck, nor did we publish this information because we endorse what was done... we wanted to give you a glimpse into the mind of people who are complicit in child exploitation.

Serena said...

The only effective response against the show is to stop watching. Period.

The purpose of this blog is not to rally people to stop watching the show or to get the show off the air. Although we would be thrilled if that happened.

The purpose of this blog is to bring the serious issue of child exploitation in Reality TV to the attention of people who care about it, in the hopes that legislation can regulate it similar to the way it is regulated in scripted TV.

We hold no illusion that Reality TV will stop exploiting children, or that people will stop watching it. But if the industry can be regulated by appropriate laws, children in these situations will be much better off than they are now.

Barbara in VA said...

Yes, we're all confused. What I think is that this post was just an FYI since her husband happened to be in that business. We all think, don't we, that she should discourage him from trying again with the Greedy Gosselins. If he were my husband he would get sick of hearing me say it.

As for me, I've quit watching the show. I look for sponsors on the sites to write to and speaking engagements with contacts to whom I can write. I am sad to hear from the poster above who lives in the G's area that businesses around there are still throwing money and services at them. Can't figure out why THEY haven't figured out the scam! I don't care how much business they think it will bring them, sometimes doing the right thing is more important.

The ads for the upcoming vow renewal makes me sick! I am not watching the channel at all until that is over because if I hear that high pitched "Isn't he wonderful?" from Kate and see Jon's stupid, vapid face again in that scene I won't be able to stand it. Do they know, do you think, that WE know it is all a big fake set-up? Or does F8 think we are all simpletons?

Anonymous said...

Serena-

Thank you so much for publishing my second post and for your explanation.

I truly commend everyone at GWOP for the tireless dedication to this cause. We all now know the reason why you posted this entry- maybe you could have prefaced it with your explanation? If you look at the responses, there were others that seem to have thought along the same lines as I. (or maybe I am just clueless)

In any case, sorry for rambling. Thank you again !

Serena said...

Anonymous @ 8:14 a.m. - You're welcome. I was reading along with the comments yesterday and today, thinking that soon another reader would respond with clarification (you guys usually do that before we have to step in -- you're great about that!), but when it seemed the confusion was reigning we thought we'd better clarify ourselves.

Nancy said...

I wish this Nevada company would offer the trip to another, more deserving family which has been featured on the "Kids By The Dozen" Discovery Health channel show. The family in Wisconsin, the family in Maine, even the family with the "super-quads" (who have quite a large fan following, I might add)... none of these parents exploit their childrenand would likely be far more appreciative than the Greedy Go$$elin$.

Anonymous said...

"... all that Mady needs is attention and guidance from her parents on how to behave..." If the cameras are taken away and there no longer is a Gosselin show, the Gosselins will have to work and won't have time for their children. But, even if the show continues, and both parents continue to be home twenty-four hours a day every day, the younger children will continue to get the lion's share of attention. So Mady is out-of-luck.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone seeing a Gosselin Effect in people around them?
I know first hand of some real copy cats.
Except they are in the adoption community.
They want the church, friends, family, agencies and grant companies to pay for one asian international adoption after another.
They seek out free vans even!
They only eat grain fed beef.
They have been VERY blessed by American standards yet cry poverty so people will pay for their international adoptions?

I have even seen others in my adoption community cry fowl when their church wont fund their adoptions?
I see story after story like this......
We paid 100% own way by hard WORK and sacrifice.
It makes me sick to see people mimicking the Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

I'm noticing more and more on the Facebook page 'Jon and Kate Plus 8" that Go$$elin fairy-dust is being thrown about -- I keep seeing the same kinds of posts like "I love this show," "I absolutely love this show," "I never get tired of this show", "I really can't wait till the show's on." Seems like there's a real a diehard hardcore bunch of J&K groupies are out there - and the funny thing is that so many appear to be teenagers in high school. So much for life experience!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Is anyone seeing a Gosselin Effect in people around them?
I know first hand of some real copy cats.
Except they are in the adoption community.
They want the church, friends, family, agencies and grant companies to pay for one asian international adoption after another.
They seek out free vans even!
They only eat grain fed beef.
They have been VERY blessed by American standards yet cry poverty so people will pay for their international adoptions?

I have even seen others in my adoption community cry fowl when their church wont fund their adoptions?
I see story after story like this......
We paid 100% own way by hard WORK and sacrifice.
It makes me sick to see people mimicking the Gosselins.
I know that the more HOM birth announcements I see the less it's about the babies but money, we need lots and lots of money. Isn't there a single person that realizes if there is even the slimmest of chances of having HOM it could be YOU so be prepared or don't have IUI!
After watching Jon and Kate no parent of HOM better come near me whinging about how hard it is and gimme, gimme, gimme. All they will get is my back walking away. Enough is enough.

Anonymous said...

What I love is that Kon doesn't care a bit about major companies making money off their kids, but they have a big problem with their own family members being paid for their well-intended services AND exposure on national TV. The G's are such tools, and I don't envy their position one bit.

Valerie said...

I disagree with whoever wrote that people will not lose interest just because the show is now focusing on expensive vacations, etc. I am certainly starting to get very insulted that this family is receiving so many perks because they are on the air exploiting their children. I stopped watching Little People Big World for the same reason. Both shows started out being very educational and interesting to watch. Not any longer. I still think that the kids are adorable.

Anonymous said...

"It comes down to ratings. As a former television producer, I KNOW that TV is edited to maximize the ratings potential. "

So... does that mean that feuds with family members and visits to exaotic places are staged for more ratings?

ThreeFarmers said...

Was just watching the rerun of the Utah episode and I just can't say it enough....Love Beth. Love her. With the exception of Aunt Jodi, she was the only person in the Gosselin inner circle with an ounce of sense.

Like Aunt Jodi, those children really lost someone when they lost her.

Ruthe said...

"My husband works as the PR Manager for a very well-known local business here in northern Nevada."

We can only hope one of those tv ads come true...
What happens in Northern Nevada stays in Northern Nevada.

Barbara in VA said...

Just received a response from the Giant grocery chain. They said they got "involved with the Gosselins" through the Children's Miracle Network (someone tell me, isn't that for kids who basically have no hope?) and made a "one time donation of diapers and wipes". If this is true it is probably why we haven't seen Katie Irene shopping in Giant in recent episodes. Have not heard back from Cosco. Have any of you? Oh, Giant also said they will not be sponsoring Kon in future and reiterated that it was only a one time thing and that they were contacted to make the donation; they did not seek it out.

Anonymous said...

It just occurred to me while watching one of the re-run episodes tonite of J$KPlus$$$$$$$$ that Kate's mouth never stops - she is the most miserable whiner, complainer and egocentric person I have ever seen. I would love to see Jon put a sock in her mouth, or better yet, a muzzle on her. Look kids, mommy can talk any more!!!

I just can't believe that he didn't see this part of her when they first met. But then again, it takes two!

Anonymous said...

I wonder that too - Jon seems like a "nice guy". Why is he with someone like Kate?

Anonymous said...

I wonder that too - Jon seems like a "nice guy". Why is he with someone like Kate?
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How can he stand having her finish every sentence he starts? It's so annoying. My husband can't stand listening to her for a minute. It must suck to be Jon! She's like that annoying creep on Conan. It's a character he has on who finishes every thought Conan starts. lol.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I may feel the wrath for saying this, but I'll risk it:

I actually think Jon isn't bad. In so many episodes, you can see he really loves and enjoys his children. He is very affectionate with them and for the most part he is great with them:

- one epi he gave it to Kate when she was ordering him to clean the garage, and he wanted to play with the kids. he held his ground and played jump rope with Cara and Mady

- he seems to do EVERYTHNG , and unlike Kate, you don't hear him complaining every second

Yes, he sometimes loses his patience with the kids (don't we all), yes, he seems a bit lazy (again, I believe a result of rich-boy syndrome rather than the show)and of course, he is participating in this show. BUT..........I honestly think Kate has worn him down, and unfortunately tainted his views on things. She does not bring out the best in him (or anyone else for that matter). She is like a cancer, destroying anything or anyone in her path. I know a couple where the wife is a lesser Kate (selfish, narcissistic, etc) and the husband used to be a great guy. After 12 years together, he has become like her, which is such a shame! When he is by himself, you can actually see shades of his former great self. Just like KON.

He's not perfect, but I still have hope that Jon will open his eyes and see what is happening.

Anonymous said...

On a web site I recently read a post from someone who had gone to last weekend's church Kon talk. She said that something came up about Jon leaving Kate and that Jon gave a very heart-felt "I'll never leave you" to Kate right in front of the audience. Well, I say Bravo, acting lessons paid off, money well spent. In other words, I don't buy it. I mean he may never leave her, but come on --his life as a man is over unless he does. This poster said that many people did not put money in the bucket that was passed for an offering (which she was quick to point out was not called a love offering as if that makes any difference), but that Kon was still selling their pictures for $20 a pop after the talk.

So Jon, I always defended you, buddy, and thought you were a funny and just spontaneously fun guy who was really good with kids. But you drank the Koolaid long ago and I guess you figure you might have to work for a living if you got out of this situation. My advice at this point to you is this. Bullies like Kate are only allowed to rule with an iron fist if the peasants don't revolt (that's the part you play, Jon). Get her some help or, by God, step up, man, and at least be a co-parent. You are allowing your children to be ruined for the price of a few trips. WTH?

Anonymous said...

ok, so in todays coupon section in the newspaper is the Great Kate Gosselin and all of her so very wonderful hints and helping ideas. One of the tips was to put your kids in charge of coupon clipping, and then pay them a % of what you save to teach them value.
Im sorry but what has J&K taught them about value when they go on vacation every week. They have had more vacations in their little 4 years than my 17 year old has ever been on.
When have we ever seen J&K and the kids sitting at the table clipping coupons? Maybe they have a helper do this. Maybe its the little old ladies at their church that are clipping them and then bring the coupons by the box full and then drop them off?

Anonymous said...

One of the tips was to put your kids in charge of coupon clipping, and then pay them a % of what you save to teach them value. Since Katie Irene hasn't allowed them to be taught to use sissors how exactly are they clipping the coupons? Do they gnaw them out of the fliers?

Anonymous said...

How can the Gosselin kids clip coupons when they don't know how to use scissors!

ThreeFarmers said...

I just did a Google search and there are tons of web sites that recommend that kids clip coupons to earn a "cut" of the savings.

I'm sure Kate came up with this idea by doing her own quick search. This is about as original as her recipe for a ham sandwich.

Anonymous said...

ThreeFarmers said...
"I just did a Google search and there are tons of web sites that recommend that kids clip coupons to earn a "cut" of the savings.

I'm sure Kate came up with this idea by doing her own quick search. This is about as original as her recipe for a ham sandwich."

9/27/2008 1:00 PM
Kate's 'helpful coupon hint' is not a new one. Back in the day, some 25+ years ago, myself and about ten ladies in my neighborhood participated in a coupon swap. One of the moms came up with the idea of having our little ones help cut coupons and 'pay' them for their help. Again another example of Kate taking credit for or bringing ideas to the table that have been in existance for many years if not generations.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Is anyone seeing a Gosselin Effect in people around them?
I know first hand of some real copy cats.
Except they are in the adoption community.
They want the church, friends, family, agencies and grant companies to pay for one asian international adoption after another.
They seek out free vans even!
They only eat grain fed beef.
They have been VERY blessed by American standards yet cry poverty so people will pay for their international adoptions?

I have even seen others in my adoption community cry fowl when their church wont fund their adoptions?
I see story after story like this......
We paid 100% own way by hard WORK and sacrifice.
It makes me sick to see people mimicking the Gosselins.


That makes me SICK! Why would anyone want to be like to Gosselins? Begging for money and things like that when you can pay for them. May be you'd have to tighten your belt(few less dinners out, may be skipping that vacation you planned on going on), but isn't that better than receiving hand outs.
I know a family who tired forever to have a baby. When they finally decided to go for adoption, they lost two children before they finally got one. He's the sweetest baby boy you'd ever meet, and they almost lost him. Never have they asked for hand outs. Now that doesn't mean that they haven't received help (The wife worked at a small school where everybody knew everybody), but to afford to adopt, they were forced to remorage their home.
Jon and Kate, perhaps you should spend more time thinking about how blessed you are that both of you can stay home with your children and that neither of you will ever have to wnder if the next paycheck will be enough, and less time begging for gifts. Perhaps you'll influence others to try harder.

Anonymous said...

The "Gosselin Effect" is alive and well in my community.

A family of 4 with a working dad were living in a rental house in very dire circumstances. The mom had to quit her job due to cancer treatments and issues stemming from her treatment. They had two children. The community pitched in to help them find a new place to live since the rental house was in poor physical condition/would not pass inspection.

There situation was quite awful, but here's the rub. When I helped pack the family's possessions before the move, I found video cameras, digital cameras, game systems, DVDs, guns, DVD players, a hunting stand, and a gun safe. Now I ask you if you were in dire financial circumstances wouldn't you try to sell anything you could to get you out of the crisis yu were in or refrain from buying such items before going to the community.

I should point out that the family were very grateful for whatever the community provided.

my9cats said...

Anonymous said...
The "Gosselin Effect" is alive and well in my community.

A family of 4 with a working dad were living in a rental house in very dire circumstances. The mom had to quit her job due to cancer treatments and issues stemming from her treatment. They had two children. The community pitched in to help them find a new place to live since the rental house was in poor physical condition/would not pass inspection.

There situation was quite awful, but here's the rub. When I helped pack the family's possessions before the move, I found video cameras, digital cameras, game systems, DVDs, guns, DVD players, a hunting stand, and a gun safe. Now I ask you if you were in dire financial circumstances wouldn't you try to sell anything you could to get you out of the crisis yu were in or refrain from buying such items before going to the community.

I should point out that the family were very grateful for whatever the community provided.

9/27/2008 2:42 PM


I understand where you are coming from, however, those items may have been purchased (or were gifts) PRIOR to the tragedy that hit this poor family. I would not be so quick to pass judgement on them. Methinks KON's greed and scamming may have created a climate of skepticism and make us mistrustful of people with actual needs. This is sad byproduct of their show.

Granny said...

Barbara in VA said...
Did you say your husband, on behalf of the company, will be working on bringing Kon to Nevada next year and, along with other companies, showering them with free services and things like the royalty they seem to think they are? If that is what you said, please try to persuade your husband and the other local companies to find some other, more worthy persons upon whom to shower these wonderful things. Maybe you could ask your husband to give a soldier's family (many have virtually nothing while their loved ones are overseas fighting) this honor? Maybe these local companies don't even realize what Kon has been given, how they are exploiting the kids and how they are behaving -- and how little they will appreciate anything you do for them. Surely there is some other way to bring publicity and advertising to your area.


I loved your post, it said it all! Thank you and I hope this husband who schedules these types of events takes this to heart and makes the right choice. The less invites that J&K get, the better for those kids.

Granny said...

Barbara in VA said...
Did you say your husband, on behalf of the company, will be working on bringing Kon to Nevada next year and, along with other companies, showering them with free services and things like the royalty they seem to think they are? If that is what you said, please try to persuade your husband and the other local companies to find some other, more worthy persons upon whom to shower these wonderful things. Maybe you could ask your husband to give a soldier's family (many have virtually nothing while their loved ones are overseas fighting) this honor? Maybe these local companies don't even realize what Kon has been given, how they are exploiting the kids and how they are behaving -- and how little they will appreciate anything you do for them. Surely there is some other way to bring publicity and advertising to your area.

I loved your response, was what I was thinking also..thank you

Anonymous said...

Here is the reply that I received from my complaint to "Gap".
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during 'Jon and Kate plus 8'. We apologize as the last thing we want to
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We look forward to shopping with you again soon!

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Arieslikekate said...

Just gotta love Kate. is she lazy or what?

I love how she gives things away, if she can't find a use for it. Oprah gave them all bikes for appearing on her show, and Kate had them put into "storage" until she felt they could ride them.

Does she put JON in storage, too, until taping day?

my9cats said...

Arieslikekate said...
Just gotta love Kate. is she lazy or what?

I love how she gives things away, if she can't find a use for it. Oprah gave them all bikes for appearing on her show, and Kate had them put into "storage" until she felt they could ride them.

Does she put JON in storage, too, until taping day?

11/13/2008 5:07 PM

Ellen Degeneras (spelling?) gave them the bikes. Oprah didn't give them anything but airspace. She probably saw right through them.

Arieslikekate said...

Thanks for reminding me Ellen gave the kids the bikes. They have been on so many shows lately, I lose track.
I bet the shrew travels with her own makeup and hair people now, and all JON gets is the hairplugs and a brush handed to him before airtime.
We all know how "concerned" kate is over the fact that the kids keep seeing their DAD in a makeup chair.