Backyard Campout

TLC is airing a new Jon & Kate Plus 8 episode tomorrow night (Monday September 8th) -- a 30-minute feature starting at 9:00 p.m. Eastern titled Backyard Campout:
In this episode, Jon and Kate decide to mix it up and go camping in their own back yard! Everyone is ready and excited about smores and outdoors until the finicky weather threatens to cancel the nighttime adventure. Will rain clouds ruin the plans?


Note of Interest: This episode was filmed during the same time that the first National Enquirer article about Jon & Kate hit the stands... will the strain of that exposition show itself in their demeanors?

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Anonymous said...

If you notice Kate's shirt in the interview at the start of the episode, it says, "If you don't have anything nice to say" and then it had tape over the mouth of the circle person. Interesting seeming how I would love for her to take her own advice and keep her mouth shut when she feels the need to belittle John or her children. :(

Anonymous said...

Wow, a thirty minute commercial for Dick's Sporting Goods and VTech. Go figure

Anonymous said...

Nice Vtech Vmotion plug...

Ravello said...

I'm already disgusted with this episode. Blatant commercialism and promotion of a kid video system. The kids are playing this system during the show and there was even a commercial with Kate's voice and the Gosselin kids.

I guess they are not making enough money with the TV show, Love offering speaking engagements, endless freebies.
Now they are doing commercials. Is this a great country or what?

Ilovemykids said...

So, really this episode was about promoting a few companies. I wonder how much Figure 8 and thus J&K were paid for this.

Catherine said...

Well, Im glad Jon was able to have SOME fun with them before Kate found out.

Anonymous said...

Oh God. What is Kate so excited about next week?

Pleasedon'tbepregnant. Pleasedon'tbepregnant.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that Kate has a tattoo on her ankle ....when she is laying in the tent on the garage...I can't believe she would tarnish her "perfect" body.

Moxie said...

I think the kids had fun and was a good experience for them. Was there blatant product placement, yes, but I do think they were cool with the kids and it seems like they had a lot of fun. All of them. That's a positive.

LAP said...

A few things...

~What did the sign say that was behind Jon when he was being interviewed in the driveway before they left for the sporting goods store?

~Where was Kate while the kids and Jon were roasting marshmellows? I'm glad the kids got to have fun, but why wasn't Kate there to help out or join in the fun/

~Nice plug in there for the V-tech thing. That's one product that I won't be buying my kids because they were 'given' this product.

~ And lastly...nice shirt Kate...why can't you take your own advice there???

Anonymous said...

I've never posted before. But the V-Tech product promotion explaining the kids needed to learn their letters etc. which followed with a commercial they were in was disgusting.

College One said...

One of my favorite Christmas memories was the Christmas Eve of my senior year of high-school. My sisters (twins) were 17- I was 18. We decided to have a sleep over in my room- a room that basically fit my queen sized bed and small aisle along the side. So there we were, at the brink of adulthood, all crowded on this bed. Best Night Ever. there are memories from that night I will never forget.

So when Mady and Cara came to mom's tent (because it was raining on them? Or storming? Don't quite remember) and she said "No" and later on said it was because that tent was full, it broke my heart. You may have someone's foot in your face, but you're never too squished for bonding.

Other than that though, it was a good episode imo, (although I do agree about the commercial aspect others have mentioned). I especially liked that Jon thought far enough ahead to let them get messy with marshmallows before Kate got there.

Chocolate makes girls happy? Hormonal there?

I was just happy to see an episode at home with the kids. Nice change of pace.

Kristen said...

I think the excitement was about going to Hawaii, could be wrong though.

I first saw that tattoo on the day her and Beth went to the spa and Kate got her toenails painted for..Collin was it? I think it's Winnie the Pooh..looks like it.

Anonymous said...

Poor Mady! She wanted go in the tent with Kate and the little girls but alas was told go get in tent with her Dad and the boys.

Anonymous said...

All I can say is they must be reading this blog and Kate has finally decided to do something about her behavior. I can't stand the shrew but I really can't find much to criticize about tonight, well except that Vtech nonsense. The constant pushing of that product, 3 different times, was unneccesary. It's not something I would buy for my kid just because Kon is pushing it.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the product placement was disgusting. I will most certainly be writing to this company tomorrow.

www.vtechkids.com

Don't they realize how unfavorably Kate is looked upon? I will buy nothing that this woman endorses.

Where was Kate during the roasting of the marshmallows? Most likely in bed or at the Spa.

Breanna said...

Yes her ankle tat is Winnie the Pooh. She also had a flower one on her stomach that was removed when she had the tummy tuck.
So no girls or boys in the same bedroom/tent, unless Cara and Mady need a new place to sleep and Kate doesn't want to share?

Anonymous said...

When Leah's lip was bleeding, Jon came over to help. You could see Kate yelling something unpleasant at him, but they did the interview voice-over instead of her real-time commentary.

The rest of the show wasn't too bad, less the VTech stunt.

Anonymous said...

Kate also mentioned going camping with her grandparents.....odd, all of the sudden she is mentioning family members. There always seemed to be that disconnection with her family, except for Kevin and Jodi.

Anonymous said...

I thought the girls weren't allowed to sleep with boys until they were married.

Anonymous said...

I think this whole thing was total damage control in response to the National Enquirer article. From the shirt (could it be more obvious?) to the sudden change in attitude....it all just stank of insincerity and coaching.

Hey Jon & Kate, had you been like that from day one, there wouldn't be much to talk about. You're a day late and a dollar short. Well, you probably AREN'T a dollar short, because of all the love offerings you receive. But you get the gist.

I'm not buying it, not for one minute. Those poor kids. They probably don't know which end is up, or which Mommy will show up from day to day.

Molly said...

How funny, I was going to buy my twins that VTech thing for their birthday next month - crossing it off the list now. I WILL NOT buy anything this woman/family endorses. Sponsoring child exploitation is something I refuse to do.

Christine said...

Did you see Kate obviously ripping Jon a new one at the camp store after Leah was crying? They did a voice over, over her yelling, but you can see the look on her face yelling at Jon. Come on TLC just show it! The Kate we all know! We're the audience that knows her best! Damage control will never work for Kate Gosselin.

ThreeFarmers said...

Yes, the show wasn't too bad, as long as you disregard the perpetual pimping of their children for financial gain.

Anonymous said...

I just emailed vtech and told them I will not be purchasing their stuff for my child now and I was going to for Christmas.

The show was better than some in the past. I, like Kate {shivers}, am not an outdoorsy type but in a six MAN tent surely she could have fit Cara and Mady in there too!
Lets see the girl tups equal about one, the twins equal about one plus Kate... thats only 3.

Maybe if it was only Cara asking to come in...

Victoria C. said...

What was the point with this episode? Vmotion and a camping store? We just watched both of those companies make millions from people who want to have exactly what the Gosselins have. I can't stand it. I really want to know how much they spent at the camping store. Oh and why did they single Alexis out to be the one who uses the doggy door. Ahhhh, it should have Kate's name above the doggy door so she can bark her way in and out just like she does when so goes in and out of her house. If this hood rat is says she is pregnant in the next episode I think that I am going to have to form a protest group and march outside their home. Nevermind I don't think TLC will give me or my group a free plane ride.

Anonymous said...

I agree with another post that said total damage control. And I did notice when Leah's lip was bleeding that Kon was shouting something to Jon. I guess all the shows will be sanitized in the future with lots of editing. Just not any fun to watch anymore knowing the TRUTH about these two . Jon and Kate take the money and run!! Make peace with your families and have a life away from the public with those precious children of yours!!!! I cannot take seeing the birthdays and other celebrations with no grandparents or cousins or aunts and uncles around. Those are the memories those kids should be making...not having a camera in their face every turn they make.

MomOfThree said...

Anyone notice how Kate kept her hands over her stomach thru most of the interview? Hmmmm....but on the other hand, I can't imagine being newly pregnant and going on vacation to Hawaii (or anywhere that requires a lot of flying and activity). You'd think that she'd want to be home in case she may not feel well. Then again, if the Hawaii plans were made before she found out she was expecting, I guess she'd have to follow thru on them. If she is pregnant, I think that it was a natural surprise. After the tummy-tuck and two pregnancies with multiples (and the probability of more multiples if fertility treatments are used again), I doubt even Kate would deliberately plan to get pregnant. Still, I stand by my original feeling that she is not pregnant. We'll see...

ThreeFarmers said...

I feel like the Gosselins are trying to over-compensate. After several weeks of programs showing them traveling or going to expensive amusement parks, they do a nuts-and-bolts backyard camp out (gads of expensive equipment notwithstanding), to show how "normal" they are.

I freely admit, I'm only going off of previous posts as I didn't watch the show. Didn't watch last weeks, either. Thought I'd break down and watch the re-run, but I haven't (yet).

DasMaedchen said...

This episode was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Maybe I'm hormonal (must just need chocolate, right?), maybe low blood sugar, who knows,
but seeing them buy all that stuff, most of it not even necessary for a backyard campout, and knowing that neither Jon nor Kate has had to WORK to pay for that stuff, it just made my blood boil.
I am a single mother and to see those beautiful children receive so many things and go so many places that MY beautiful child may not get to do, since I actually earn MY living, it just upsets me.
Add to that that the Gosselin children are being emotionally scarred left and right, and I just have such disdain for Jon and Kate.

Tonight's episode was very contrived and pure damage control. And Kate's witchy laugh in the preview for next week's episode was like nails on a chalkboard. She sounded evil and slightly out of her mind.

I'm just sick of these people. I wish they'd stop exploiting their beautiful babies and earn a living like normal, honest people.

I hope those camping supplies are worth their weight in the BLOOD MONEY they were purchased with.

On a side note, if Kate has a Winnie the Pooh tat on her leg, then that just confirms a theory a friend of mine has about grown people who are obsessed with Pooh being a bit crazy.

Anonymous said...

Poor Joel biting the glow necklace and getting the liquid all over his mouth. Hmm I wonder if he was chewing on it because his mother scared him about the bears coming after him? I also wonder why they didn't show that whole scene on TV? Damage control again? Too much yelling at Joel from his parents after he did that? Too much negative feedback after they scolded Collin for eating the Playdoh and Crayola Factory??

Christine said...

What no ORGANIC marshmallows from Whole Foods Kate? Had to settle for the white trash version Jet Puff?

Anonymous said...

Good point about no books or reading going on. I have also noticed too much baby talk. Passy, aldergator, hairpaine.....LOL... I don't know how to spell these words. But I do recall when my girls were little; trying to cut out the baby talk. I mean I would call my kids things like pumpkin etc. But baby talk....is a little over the top here.

queenie said...

I can't say I would stay outside in the rain!

I bet you would for $30-50 grand.

Barbara said...

Watching them being lovey dovey to each other, in the past two weeks, mentioning family members who have been completely ignored or never mentioned, her snarky shirt -- If you can't say something nice --, the not getting stressed out over the 'smores messiness, if this isn't damage control I don't know what is. And who among us would go to a sporting goods store and purchase all that stuff for a staged backyard campout -- only one that is financed by TLC. I would love to have seen the name on that credit card he used.

Anonymous said...

The comment about reading is a good one and the back yard camping would have been a perfect opportunity for them to all gather in one of the tents and have mom and dad take turns reading preschool camping stories, of which there are many.

And geesh, since the bill is on the show, why not just order some titles in advance and pick them up on the way home with the other important gear?

And wordsmith, Kate, could pretend to be an advocate of reading and coach all us parents of "just 1-7 kids" on the benefits of reading and quiet time before bed.

It was a good idea for the show. I wonder who came up with it.

Megan said...

Hmmm, kate didn't seem too concerned that Joel bit the glowstick...I guess it was organic!

Anonymous said...

Is anyone else wondering how much they dropped at the sporting goods store as if it were nothing?

What normal WORKING middle class family of 10 can buy 10 sleeping bags without it being a major expense?

But then a couple of tents and air mattresses of course, lest anyone's back be pierced by a rock...oh and, let's get some new dustpans while we're at it.

I mostly found it comical to hear how many times Kate exclaimed about how "fun" and "exciting" it was to spend quality time with her family as if it were a novelty.

Umm, yeah...TLC, how do you spell damage control? And could it be any more blatant?

beachluvin said...

momofthree said...
Anyone notice how Kate kept her hands over her stomach thru most of the interview? Hmmmm....but on the other hand, I can't imagine being newly pregnant and going on vacation to Hawaii (or anywhere that requires a lot of flying and activity). You'd think that she'd want to be home in case she may not feel well. Then again, if the Hawaii plans were made before she found out she was expecting, I guess she'd have to follow thru on them. If she is pregnant, I think that it was a natural surprise. After the tummy-tuck and two pregnancies with multiples (and the probability of more multiples if fertility treatments are used again), I doubt even Kate would deliberately plan to get pregnant. Still, I stand by my original feeling that she is not pregnant. We'll see...

9/08/2008 7:28 PM

Remember, Kate drank wine on 4th of July. When did the NE article come out?

beachluvin said...

Hmmm, let's see what would an average family do if they wanted to attempt at backyard camping adventure.

1. Go to the sporting goods store and purchase brand new equipment needed.

2. Call up family members and ask to borrow equipment.

3. Call up friends and ask to borrow equipment.

I guess #2 and #3 don't work if you don't have friends and family so that leaves #1.

Even families that can afford to purchase equipment aren't stupid enough to do so.

Anonymous said...

The first time they mentioned buying sleeping bags I think they said that the little kids needed them, as did Kate. Then Jon sort of tagged on that he needed a replacement. Since they weren't mentioned, I thought the twins, having a tent already, must have them. But later they said they bought 10 sleeping bags. Also, Jon said they bought 2 air mattresses but later, it appeared there were 2 in each of the large tents.

I would have liked to have seen the little lower left hand talley on the screen like they used to do, while the quirky music plays. It would have probably looked something like this:

10 sleeping bags: 600.00
4 air mattressess: 200.00
2 6-man tents: 300.00
5 battery op lanterns: 110.00
10 marshmallow forks: 12.99
24 batteries: 14.00
1 box glow necklaces/sticks: 20.00
3 (?) giant koosh balls: 36.00
2 bags marshmallows: 2.18
1 box graham crackers: 2.79
6 hershey bars: 2.49
1 bundle firewood: 4.00
1 Vtech game set: very free

Total: 1304.45


"We think everyone should do this with their family because it's not expensive."
...
"Once you buy the stuff. And then you have it."

Anonymous said...

I have to agree--it made me angry to see Jon and Kate just load those carts piled high with camping gear. How many other families can afford to buy all of that gear for a backyard campout? That is a major investment, even if the equipment will be used again in the future.

And when Kate was saying that the little kids were watching the video thing because they desperately needed to learn their letters and numbers---give me a break! Why hasn't she been READING to them all of this time??? I started reading to my children when they were months old and it became a daily routine that we all enjoyed. That is the best way for children to learn letters, numbers and words and they develop a life long love of reading and learning!!

ThreeFarmers said...

I'm pretty sure that was a gift card and not a credit card. (My side hurts a little;)

Anonymous said...

In the preview for next week, I think Kate is so insanely happy because they are going to Hawaii. How will that all come about? Will they just say "the show is paying for all of us to go to Hawaii to renew our vows" or will they try to con all of the viewers and say that they have scrimped and saved and because "God provides" we are all going to Hawaii?

Anonymous said...

When Kate did her contribution to the commercial, I thought it was so obviously and awkwardly read. I couldn't help wonder if she was doing it on purpose. She doesn't seem that forced when reading scripted material for the show.

former fan quinn said...

"On a side note, if Kate has a Winnie the Pooh tat on her leg, then that just confirms a theory a friend of mine has about grown people who are obsessed with Pooh being a bit crazy."

OMG I totally agree. I've always had a pet peeve about grown people in love with the Disney gang. Yuck!

It's kinda ironic that this episode aired this week because this past weekend my hubby and I talked about going camping. We only have one child. We decided not to go because it's too expensive so we couldn't. So to see them going on a shopping spree was annoying to me.

Why does TLC think that people want to watch Kon being given everything, going on trips, etc etc? Most people probably work for a living and don't want to see that every week! It's irritating.

I honestly didn't watch the show intently because I can't deal with it lately. I mostly just tune in to know what's going on with this blog!

Also I'm disappointed with you Vtech.

One more thing, my daughter could recite her ABCS and identify all of her letters before she turned two. I stay home with her and she is read to constantly. We don't have a Vtech game system either.

Anonymous said...

ThreeFarmers said...
I'm pretty sure that was a gift card and not a credit card. (My side hurts a little;)


Maybe your side hurts because it was pierced by a rock.

Anonymous said...

Damage control or not, I see real change.

I saw someone mentioned that it was borning that they were home and what was the point??! I think we need to remember that when they do go out, we all complain about how they should just stay home every once in a while. And when they finally do, we jump on them for that?!?

Im not letting the new change overshadow the fact that they are still pimping out their children. But I really do think the changes are for the positive.

dotsicle said...

I recall that when the family got their piano, a man played it while Kate and the kids SANG the ABC song. Looked like most of the kids knew the song. Therefore, I call BS on Kate's statement that "they desperately need to learn" their ABC's. That was a totally scripted moment. The kids know their ABC's and Leah can spell her name.

Good show tonight, even though damage control. Looked like the kids had fun. They seem to be focusing less on the twins, which is a good thing for those girls.

ThreeFarmers said...

To quote one of my favorite comics, the problem that J&K+8 is having relating to it's viewers in the last few episodes is:

"Too much of the good life on TV and not enough of it on the table." -- Richard Lewis

Not the way to endear yourself to your fan base that you claim relates so well to your family. Particularly during this economy.

ThreeFarmers said...

ThreeFarmers said...
I'm pretty sure that was a gift card and not a credit card. (My side hurts a little;)

Anonymous said...
Maybe your side hurts because it was pierced by a rock.


If that's the case, it's because someone else was throwing stones.

Anonymous said...

I am a single mother and to see those beautiful children receive so many things and go so many places that MY beautiful child may not get to do, since I actually earn MY living, it just upsets me.
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I totaly applaud you and get where you are coming from.

What I noticed tonight was this woman and her kids are a walking bilboard for Gymboree clothing. I ABSOLUTELY love Gymboree for my kids, but after going through a divorce and being a newly single mom, I can't afford it except what's on sale. I work hard for the money I make and what does she get...nothing but freebies, not only from Gymboree, Gap, Johnson & Johnson, but now V-Tech as well.

It's just sickening how KON lives their life and pimps out their children for freebies and money.

sabrinasmom said...

What normal WORKING middle class family of 10 can buy 10 sleeping bags without it being a major expense?

That they will never use again.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen the show and based on the descriptions I'll pass. Watching The Closer right now. That is the number one show on cable. Jon and Kate don't even crack the top 20 cable shows. Spongebob squarepants is way more popular.

Anonymous said...

One other thing to point out that I think is an improvement is that Kate does say they were "given" the Vtech. Seems like in the past, she would always say they bought it. Again, improvement.

sabrinasmom said...

The "windows of the world" are not opening up to this family because the tups are getting older. Come clean Gosselins! - The windows of the world are opening up because TLC is footing the bill.

ThreeFarmers said...


One other thing to point out that I think is an improvement is that Kate does say they were "given" the Vtech. Seems like in the past, she would always say they bought it. Again, improvement.


Yes! I'm surprised that the Vtech wasn't a "rare treat" for the kids.

Anyone else find their constant wearing of the message T's annoying in a passive aggressive way? "See how devout we are, we have Christian T's, please give us money." (Ok, that was overly snarky)

Laura said...

J&K are so detestable to me.
I feel sorry for the kids because they probably won't have relationships with the grandparents and aunts/uncles. How sad. Kate is alienating everyone in their immediate family. Be careful, Kate.

You would think that being exposed by the National Enquirer would humble J&K but no, that is not the case.

We at GWoP know that TLC paid for all the camping stuff. Many families would not be able to purchase that much camping stuff.

This show leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

beachluvin said...

I was thinking to myself, I wonder where the camera crew and production staff slept? One of the best things about camping is making breakfast and coffee in the morning but, it looked like Kate woke up and ran into the kitchen to fetch breakfast from craft services.
As I was wondering where the crew slept, it finally dawned on me why there are so many potty chairs all over the house. The crew has to use the regular bathrooms, so that leaves no space for the tups to use their own bathroom. Kate, way to put your family first as usual. The Go$$elin $how Mu$t Go On!

Anonymous said...

Jon: "camping in an inexpensive thing to do with your family". No, for you it is a free thing. Don't pretend to care about the cost of anything we mere mortals pay for. Unlike you, our camping equipment will not be taken to the consignment shop the next day. It would be nice to think those kids would get to use it again and have some fun in their yard, but I doubt Kate will ever set foot out there again if not being filmed. Was the firepit purchased just for the show also? Probably. And how sad to hear Kate shuddering and saying how she can't imagine 6 people in one tent. Some of us don't have anyone giving us free reign at a sporting goods store to buy $$$ worth of equipment we will never again use.

Anonymous said...

Seems like in the past, she would always say they bought it. Again, improvement.

How could she say, "we bought it" after we saw her kids in a commercial spot with her doing the voice-over before she talked about it from the couch?

Pimping a video game player that's been pimped by her kids isn't an "improvement" to me.

lauren said...

Did anyone else feel this episode was completely edited? Like, two things from commercials must've gone to the chopping block: Mady giving another untrusting, hateful glare & a kid saying "I need a potty!". I can imagine the moans & groans from that in the middle of the night from Kate.

Anonymous said...

I made the comment to my daughter how sad it is that these kids can never go on a vacation or have an experience like the backyard camping without cameras following them around and probably directing how things go. They are probably on microphones as well. That is just not natural and not fair to these kids. Let them be kids!

The scene with the bloody lip was not realistic to me because it's not like Kate to act so maternal and even really be concerned with that sort of thing, especially since it was "just" Alexis. More often she would just scream at Jon that it was his fault. She did turn away awfully fast and put her attention back on her freebies though once the paper towel showed up.

It sure was typical Kate to turn her kids away from the tent though. She was shocked when Jon talked of their tent leaking. Maybe if she had listened to them and talked to them like a normal mother instead of just telling them to go bunk with someone else she might have known this. Poor kids.

Anonymous said...

Was the firepit purchased just for the show also?
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I thought I saw the firepit when they did their family video.

Of course I forget when they did their taped/showed their family video as well.

Anonymous said...

How could she say, "we bought it" after we saw her kids in a commercial spot with her doing the voice-over before she talked about it from the couch?

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When did this commercial happen? I must have completely missed it and will have to be on the look out for it tomorrow when my DD watches it while getting ready for school.

Anonymous said...

"Pimping a video game player that's been pimped by her kids isn't an "improvement" to me."

You took my words out of context. My point has nothing to do with the pimping/exploitation of the children. We can all agree there is no improvement there. The improvement came in that she finally owned up to someone giving her something versus saying it was a "rare treat" or something that they had decided to buy out of the goodness of their hearts for their children.

Anonymous said...

Campin' in the backyard is something I can relate to! I camped out in the backyard once! I've never been to Hawaii or Utah. I've never had plastic surgery, although I need it. I've never been to a spa. But I camped in the backyard!

Anonymous said...

Buying camping equipment is expensive, but I am not going to critize them for getting free stuff. Good for them. My family just spent 600.00 on camping stuff and it was well worth it. I wish I could have gotten the equipment free,but I'm not hating. I would take advantage of an opportunity if it was offered for free.

Anonymous said...

We missed tonights epi, but while reading comments my hubby found an article in the Sunday paper. Yeah, we're behind -.-

Reality show amuses yet repels viewers.

Anonymous said...

You took my words out of context.

No, I didn't. I disagreed with you and cited reasons for why I disagreed with you. Once again, I don't see how they could pass the VTech off as a "rare treat" or financial sacrifice when they did a promo spot in addition to talking about it from the couch. The focus was too blatant to pass off as anything other than a sponsored product, imo, so I don't agree that this was an "improvement".

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
9/08/2008 10:00 PM

The scene with the bloody lip was not realistic to me because it's not like Kate to act so maternal and even really be concerned with that sort of thing, especially since it was "just" Alexis.
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It was Leah who cut her lip, not Alexis

theothermrsd said...

The cutting room floor episode is on now on the West Coast.

My husband is a twin who appeared in a print ad for Esprit Clothing many moons ago. My MIL was a stay at home Mom who always had to be ready to take my husband and his brother to auditions. Actually, the print ad was intended to showcase my husband and his brother - but my BIL was missing his nap that day and blew his audition (they were 3).

I am laughing that Kate, while the casting lady certainly thought Mady and Cara were cute - they weren't polished enough for instant stardom, was miffed that they were not offered contracts on the spot. I think her quote was "we will not be the persuers".

This industry has not changed in 20 plus years. If you are not at the ready - they move on to the next person. What was Kate thinking? (IMO she acted like it wasn't a big deal, but if Kate was told that she didn't have to do any legwork and the job offers would start pouring in - do you think her tune would have changed?)

Anonymous said...

No Jenny tonight either...more damage control? It is so obvious they are trying to mop up the messes they made. I just don't know what to think of them now. Give them credit for trying or continue to watch them with disgust. This is my dilemma. After some thought, they are still making a ton of money off their kids backs, now just trying to make that acceptable to the audience. I am back to disgust. Do they honestly think we are that gullible? I am also a bit tired of seeing the Christian t-shirts on them, somehow, honestly, what are they trying to prove? They wear them like a badge of honor and I feel their actions prove just the opposite of what is on those shirts.

Anonymous said...

I am onboard with the gentle readers who wish that Jon and Kate would make it a priority to read to the children daily. I was always taught that was the one most important thing a parent could do to foster academic progress in their children. Back in the dark ages when one of my children was in kindergarten in an upper middle class school, there were four "reading" groups. In the top group some could read a few words, one could read books, and the rest knew most or all their letters and some sounds. The bottom group was lucky to know a few letters and none knew any sounds. These were mainly five year olds with a few who would be five in a month or two. The children who have parents who have seen to it that they have been exposed to reading and letters and numbers are fortunate. Not all parents take the job as seriously.

Also as one gentle reader above also said some kids just aren't interested. A friend of mine who was a teacher was mortified that her five year old son knew almost no letters or numbers despite all her best efforts. Yet, he somehow managed to pull himself together and catch up to at least the mid-level of the class by January. :)

Holly said...

Oops I forgot something in my original post LOL. OK, here's my theory to why Kate is all happy happy in the next new episode. I do not think she is pregnant because I could seem them milking that more; like happy but a lot of "oh woe is us", "whatever will we do with 9 kids", etc. I truly think this is a lead in to the vow renewal in Hawaii and I think I know EXACTLY how they are setting it up.

We NEVER see Kate showing affection towards Jon, much less a KISS, so I think they are going to play it as Jon planned this elaborate "surprise" romantic trip to Hawaii for a vow renewal and he'll spring it on Kate and VOILA..HAPPY HAPPY KISS KISS! It'll be an attempt to (a) trying to quell rumors that their marriage is in the dumps (b) show them being more loving & affectionate towards each other and (c) a way to explain them going to Hawaii WITHOUT them having to say it was contrived and paid for by TLC.

I guarantee all the sheeple will dance on rooftops shouting "Told ya so meanies! They are in luuuuurve and oh Jon, he's SO romantic" while the rest of us hold yellow plastic bowls in front of our mouths as to not puke on the floor and be subjected to wearing vomitous clothing or sleeping on the laundry room floor.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous 9:17 said...

I haven't seen the show and based on the descriptions I'll pass. Watching The Closer right now. That is the number one show on cable. Jon and Kate don't even crack the top 20 cable shows. Spongebob squarepants is way more popular."
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Good call Anon 9:17, I watched The Closer too, much more entertaining than the weekly pimping this family does of their personal life.

I just started watching J&K in June (along with some re-runs) and I'm already sick of them.

pokie said...

lap said: 'Where was Kate while the kids and Jon were roasting marshmellows? I'm glad the kids got to have fun, but why wasn't Kate there to help out or join in the fun'
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Kate was probably getting the graham crackers and chocolate in the kitchen and/or making phone calls while Jon Plus 8 were roasting marshmallows.

What jolted me in this episode was Hannah's tone when she asked Jon what he was doing (prepping the fire pit). She has such a disrespectful sassy, tone to her. None of the other 7 children talk to their father this way. Definitely her 'mamas' attitude.

Re next week's episode, I agree that Kate is probably excited about going to Hawaii for their vow renewal. When have we ever seen her that 'loving' toward Jon?

NewMom08 said...

Prediction:
I woefully predict that a sponsor of the trip to Hawaii will be some kind of jewelry company who provides our dear Katie Irene with a new wedding set....
She deserves it after all.

Blech.

Anonymous said...

I wanted to comment on the "cutting room floor" episode that was just aired.

The short segment about the tups giving their paccies to Cousin Benny just broke my heart. Jodi looked so happy, and when Kate kissed that baby she looked so loving. Then baby Benny put his arms around Jon's neck and hugged him and aunt Jodi said "Awwww, he loves his uncle Jon".

Gosslins and/or Jodi, if any of you are reading this my prayers are for you to open your hearts (if you haven't already) and lay aside whatever differences you have for the good of all your kids. FAMILY is really, truly the only thing that matters. You cannot take any material goods with you in the end.

Ilovemykids said...

What normal WORKING middle class family of 10 can buy 10 sleeping bags without it being a major expense?

That they will never use again


And will probably sell on consignment.

Anonymous said...

In next week's preview when Kate was so excited about something (pregnancy, Hawaii, whatever) did you notice she kissed him on the lips on the couch? We've NEVER seen affection like this before. DAMAGE CONTROL. Poor Jon, on the receiving end of the Kiss of the Dragon.

Ravello said...

" I'm just sick of these people. I wish they'd stop exploiting their beautiful babies and earn a living like normal, honest people."

Ditto for me. This show is not reality, it is all scripted, contrived and sickening.
Week after week we see this family receive thousands of dollars in freebies. The parents do not work, the kids are learning money grows on TLC trees.

I agree there was a lot of editing and damage control. These are not nice people.

I do not think Kate is pregnant but if she is she must have been lying about " fertility problems". I cannot imagine even Kate would be dumb enough to take fertility pills again.

Anonymous said...

I totally noticed the t-shirt too. Passive aggressive. Very nice. And Christian. She is unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know which Dick's Sporting Good store they were at? I saw it was next to Albertson's. I've checked every Dick's and Albertson's in their area and none are close to each other.

My point is...WERE they even in PA when buying the camping equipment? Were they on a trip somewhere and had to tape this portion for the episode? That's probably what they did and dumped all the loot onto the production crew. Strange.

Anonymous said...

At the end of all of this, will it really matter whether Kate got a tummy tuck or Jon's hair is fuller? Or whether the tups wear matching Gymboree clothes? Whether the kids use bibs until they are 13? Nope. What is important is whether J&K are kind and loving to their kids, tend to their physical and emotional needs, and in general, do the best they can for them.

Gasmom You make some excellent points, BUT, and this is what bothers me, all of this, including whether or not we know whether Kate uses organic fluff or the kids wear bibs, is because the family is on tv. And that is the bottom line. These kids should not be working (and I use the term deliberately) at least four days a week if not more.

Jon and Kate could transform themselves into model parents and I would still say, turn off the Figure 8 cameras.

I wouldn't care if Jon got hair plugs -- except it became an episode and meant that they left sick kids behind to film it.

I don't want to accept the fundamental premise that the Gosselin parents should support their family via this show, even if it means that they get free trips, tummy tucks, and clothes. The behavior they exhibit as parents is often poor, but it's the first decision they made, to take this job (their choice of word) that colors the rest of their decisions.

Anonymous said...

When I look back on this show, I realize that there are not many instances of adults reading to children.

On one episode Aaden is reading an animal book to another kid. Kate is shown reading to a kid or two in the garage while she sits in the comfy white chair. John makes a comment early in the series about the "kids destroying a whole libary of books." Mady and Cara are in first grade and I have never seen either even carrying a book.

These parents need to stop counting their money and start reading books. Also, TV is not evel. My 3 children grew up watrching Sesame Street. All knew their alphabet through Sesame Street TV and videos.

Chris said...

Here's the thing - since TLC obviously edited out two obvious scenes last night that would of caused snark (Kate yelling at Jon at the sporting goods store and the obvious DELETED scene/reaction to Joel's biting of the glow necklace) how much is really left to show? I mean, like it or not, there are people out there tuning into this show, not for the kids, but to see how bitchy Kate is this week to her brood and husband. Admit it, people love to see that kind of negativity on national TV and I think that is why she has so many defenders. They think, "Hey that's me and my husband. I have been known to yell at him like that too! No big deal!"

So if they choose to edit out the real Kate, and show a nicey nice fake one, this show will tank on it's own. It's made it's mark on two things, Kate being a bitch and the cute kids. Kate IS a bitch and the kids won't be cute forever. Already showing signs of not-so-much cuteness (Hannah sure has a sassy mouth) so unless they go back to the core of what made this show famous, I really don't see it how they can go on with the direction of this show, i.e. spending sprees to stores, lavish vacations and expensive day trips. The average family just cannot relate.

Anonymous said...

I really didn't see this episode as the pinnacle of damage control that others did.

Kate's parents OWN A CAMPGROUND!

The fact that this was not mentioned, that the camp out did not take place there, (now that would have been some nice product placement for gramps), or that KON did not borrow camping equipment from the family (which, owning a campground, I assume that they have) shows that this was another big slap in the face to Kate's parents.

How much sweeter this would have been to have the kids camping out with grandma and grandpa (and cousins) at grandpa's very own campground. All IMHO of course.

babyaby said...

the Dick's was in Harrisburg

sis said...

Not a whole lot to say about this episode except that they must have really been pushed by production to get out there and camp, dammit, rain or no rain. Giving the benefit of the doubt to Kate, she handled that situation better than I would have, but again, I am not under contract nor on a filming schedule. Not a big fan of camping myself, so watching people camp was not much of an episode. The kids "seemed" to enjoy the marshmallow roasting, but do we really know how much "fun" sleeping outside was for them. All we had was J&K commenting that they had such a great time. And Kate scooted into the house ASAP in the morning.

I'm not familiar with the sporting goods store mentioned (it's not in my part of the world) and it looked to me as if the brands and names were blurred out. Does this mean they did NOT provide all of the camping gear for free and thus TLC had to pony up for the cost? If that is the case, good for these companies for not jumping on the J&K bandwagon for publicity. Sure, you could probably identify the place and products, but they weren't sponsors.

The V-Tech commercial was a joke.

Marshmallow roasting with little ones scares the pants off me. I saw a little friend of mine scarred for life when his burning marshmallow fell off his stick and onto his face when we were kids. So I've always helped my kids do theirs, and stressed safety (never hold the stick above your waist!). This is just a personal thing with me so I did cringe during that part.

I am also one who doesn't think Kate is pregnant. I think the implication for next week is that Jon says "We are going to Hawaii to renew our vows!" Kate acts shocked and surprised and we have another trip episode.

Jenny's absence? Trying to show that they CAN in fact do things without help.

And yes, Jon, you will always be the mule. (The "donkey's backside" joke is just too easy, so I'm not even going there).

evileye said...

I am sure they will sell the equipment at their next yard sale as always!

Anonymous said...

I believe Kate's parents own the kind of campground that you drive a trailer too. I think it also has permanent hookups for movile homes/trailers. I don't think it's the kind of campground where you set up tents. So, they might not have had any tents to offer them.

Anonymous said...

" Extreme eye-rolling happening when KON were saying how fun backyard camping was, and it is an inexpensive way to have fun with your family. Of course it's inexpensive for them because it's free, but all that equipment would set us "normal folks" back several hundreds of dollars !!! The lies and attempts at deceit just do not stop !!"
If the intention of J & K in this episode was to show viewers how camping (in the backyard) can be an inexpensive and afforable activity for a family, even a large family, they accomplished quite the opposite. For us frugal working class, inexpensive camping in the backyard consists of a tent, a bunch of old blankets, a flash light, and a few board games like Monopoly/Shoots and Ladders/Yahtzee. IMO, the above describes a more realistic inexpensive version of a family back yard camp out. The 'inexpensive' J & K version is comprised of, a TLC all expense paid scripted episode topic in an attempt at damage control. The camp out episode would have been better served and more relatable to viewers if J & K were to show viewers how easy is to do a family activity like camping out in the backyard with ordinary items found in the home. The only cost out of pocket , the ingrediants for making smores! I have come the realization some time ago that the force behind TLC and the producers of J & K + 8 is to consistently insult the intelligence of the entire working class population!

Anonymous said...

Holly,

I'll bet you're right and they will do something similar to that for the Hawaii trip. The only problem is that Kate told Beth on the plane trip to Utah that they would be renewing their vows in Hawaii.

It will be interesting to see if the producers think anyone noticed that conversation.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the christian themed and inspirational T shirts worn by J & K leave a tsk tsk taste in my mouth. Im sure Kate sees herself as a human billboard for what is 'right' and 'good'. While in REALITY she has proven herself to be quite the opposite!!!!! The only t shirts I want to see this family wearing are 8 children wearing matching t shirts that say' Take This Job And Shove It' with a camera on the front with a big 'X' thru it.

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:24 a.m.--
Makes the point that everything that this family does becomes an episode. Why? It is overkill.

All of these special trips are unrealistic. The kids go to places that are closed to the public...there were no other kids at the bouncy place with Alexis, the roller skating rink with Cara, the reptile museum with Leah, etc. Normal families have to deal with crowds, other people, hustle and bustle...these children are not learning how to deal with other people. I hope preschool gets the children acclimated to other kids, at least.

Also, Kate seems to be choosy about what activities she does. For instance, she did not go to any of the boys' activities, but did go to all the girls' activities. Did she need to go to LA for Jon's hair plugs while leaving sick kids? She should have let him go alone. He was not anesthetized for the procedure. He could have flown to LA, had the procedure done, and returned home alone. She makes some nonmotherly decisions--I think she likes the limelight a little too much.

Anonymous said...

RE: 3) Did anyone notice that Kate singled out Joel when she said the bears were coming to eat all the Joel Kevins ? I couldn't tell if his cries of "no, no, no" were real or not ?

This show reportedly was taped just around the time of the National Enquirer Article debacle, so I find it ironic that she would choose that time and scenario to refer to Joel as Joel KEVIN. This along with the "If you can't say anything nice" T-shirt. Think maybe it was a dig at her brother Kevin? Talk about Passive Agressive!

Spootie said...

My biggest problem with last night's episode? [Being long time campers here] is that they kept the kids outside during a lightening/thunderstorm.

Who does that is? Lightening can be up to two miles away and the storm can still strike within seconds where you are.

The poles on the tents [we have similar] are plastic, but have metal sheaths to connect. Electricity is conducted through metal, yes?

I thought this was completely irresponsible and dangerous.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen the show and since no one has brought it up yet maybe it isn't such a big deal - but why when it starting raining didn't the family pick up the sleeping bags, go inside and have a big slumber party on the floor?

I love camping, but if it was raining and I was in my back yard with 6 four year olds and 2 seven year olds with a leaky tent I'd sure as heck hightail it into the house. We would have all piled up together, told stories (the best part of camping with my family) and there would have been lots of laughs over the big "adventure."

I suppose the easy answer is that the episode was about camping in the backyard, so they camped in the backyard no matter what. Maybe that response wasn't in the choice set. If the choice was either camp in the backyard or everyone sleeps in their beds inside was the only option - then what would be left for the episode?

Jon and Kate are not making wise choices in my opinion with respect to the show, but the producers really aren't any better. On the other hand Kate is not a go with the flow kind of gal, maybe staying out in the pouring rain was really the best solution given what the producers have to work with.

Anonymous said...

How much sweeter this would have been to have the kids camping out with grandma and grandpa (and cousins) at grandpa's very own campground. All IMHO of course.
___________________________

Your exactly right! Kate talked about how she went camping with her grandparents and even though she hated the outdoors she went and did it because of them.

Are her kids ever going to get to experience that with their grandparents? It's just sad to think that they won't be able to because KON has disowned practically the whole family.

Wake up and smell the coffee KON!!!

Anonymous said...

"How much sweeter this would have been to have the kids camping out with grandma and grandpa (and cousins) at grandpa's very own campground. All IMHO of course"

How about when Kate answered Jon's question about camping as a kid? Did he really think when he asked that she had never been camping? She seemed to have such disdain in her voice about the topic.

moi said...

10 sleeping bags: 600.00
4 air mattressess: 200.00
2 6-man tents: 300.00
5 battery op lanterns: 110.00
10 marshmallow forks: 12.99
24 batteries: 14.00
1 box glow necklaces/sticks: 20.00
3 (?) giant koosh balls: 36.00
2 bags marshmallows: 2.18
1 box graham crackers: 2.79
6 hershey bars: 2.49
1 bundle firewood: 4.00
1 Vtech game set: very free

Total: 1304.45


Having 8 kids in this day and age, and raising them at no cost to yourself? PRICELESS.

Anonymous said...

I also clearly saw Kate ripping Jon a new one there in the camping store while Leah's lip was bleeding! Did anyone else also notice that instead of comforting Leah, Kate was cupping both hands under her bleeding lip, obviously protecting the Gymboree clothing she got for free but wants to keep clean so she can sell for $$$ at consignment? Please.

As for letting the kids get messy with the marshmallows, those were non-name brand clothing so of course she let them get messy. She probably just threw the clothes away.

Anonymous said...

This may already have been adressed, but I remember either in an article or on their website, can't remember which, KON talking about the ultimate vacation, something Jon did as a kid, which I'm guessing is his backpacking across country. I wonder if this is what their leading up to? They're already stocking up on the things they would need to go.

Elizabeth said...

Boy, I sure hope they take good care of that free camping gear. They're gonna need somewhere to live once this disaster ends and they realize they can't afford that $2 million "property".

Anonymous said...

ummm, Spootie, you don't know if they stayed out in the thunderstorm...remember that there was probably much editing and if the storm did come closer, they probably went inside because the camera crew couldn't stay out with the lighting needed to film the episode.

JackieMay said...

Haven't watched the episode yet, but for those commenting on whether Kate's pregnant or not - you'd think Jon would have taken care of that ever happening with a little "snip-snip" if you know what I mean. Forget the hair plugs man! Go and get your "sperm-faucet" plugged!

adri said...

Two important questions:

Was Kate's shirt an EM Tanner original?

And is she taking over the role of "giving a shoutout to the peeps" now?

Ali said...

A rock might pierce her back? Maybe then Kate will feel the pain she's inflicted over the years by stabbing friends and family in the back. If only.

Anonymous said...

Dear Gosselin Children,

I want to apologize for not having empathy for you regarding your current living situation. Yes, I have talked the talked, but have failed to walk the walk.

Last weekend I posted a comment on the Labor Day Special show about how the Nicu is not a destination, and how the work that is being done there is not entertainment. What I failed to do however, is apply those same principles to each one of you. Your day-to-day lives (the good, bad and ugly) should not be considered "Work", and should not be filmed for the public's consumption/entertainment.

So, I'm going to do what your parents have been unable to do; pull the plug on your show (at least in my home). I'm going to walk the walk because it's the most respectful and considerate thing for me to do for each of you.

I hope that your folks can one day see the light, reconnect with family and close friends and give each of you the best life possible.

Sincerely, Ann

SammysMom said...

I guess I'm missing why this show is interesting to so many to watch anymore. I can't stand they've made it into one big commercial/product endorsement versus showing people the REALITY of how two parents living a middle-income life can make it with 8 kids. You can tell how the more money they've made between each season the less you hear Kate talking about actual BUDGETING! They did one episode where she grocery shopped, but I didn't see her hand over a fat wad of coupons! In fact I never actually see them shop for any of the day-to-day necessities. Or exchange actual money. Or talk about how they make a paycheck stretch to pay for private schooling or maybe show their angst (although there isn't any, I'm talking if this show was indeed REALITY) about how they're going to pay for 6 more private school tuitions. Where are the REAL conversations that couples have all the time about money, education, retirement, etc..? They promote the show on TLC's website with this blurb: 'With sextuplets and a pair of twins, the Gosselins are hardly your typical American family. Jon and Kate are the ambitious parents of this adorable bunch and they are battling all odds to make sure their brood has a normal, happy childhood. We follow them as they tackle seemingly ordinary life events like pumpkin picking and birthday parties that become extraordinary when you have two sets of energetic multiples.'

What's so ordinary about a trip to NC in a seaside McMansion? When do we actually see the planning Kate does for the birthday parties or talk to Jon about how they're going to pay for it? How about back-to-school shopping for Maddy and Cara? Do Jon and Kate discuss a budget for that? How about mentioning how they've had to cut back due to the cost of gas and other products going up. Let's see that shopping list for all-organic foods Kate, and then tell us exactly what else your cutting out to be able to eat all-organic. You know, maybe provide some good advice for other Moms who are also concerned about feeding their family well, but how to budget it?

OK, I know like everyone else that things like the above are paid for by TLC, I get that. But why would TLC take this show from a reality show to a J&K/TV-version of the Pussycat Dolls song: "Don't You Wish Your Family Was Shallow Like Ours?"

Just Me said...

I think her excitement for next weeks show is Hawaii, it seems like they were just there and that its airing sooner than usual, isnt it usually 2 months behind? I may be wrong though.


Also I nominate this for comment of the week
Victoria C. said...
Ahhhh, it should have Kate's name above the doggy door so she can bark her way in and out just like she does when so goes in and out of her house

Anonymous said...

I see a lot of people complained about how many tents they got. To be fair, a 6 person tent doesn't hold 6 comfortably. At all. We have a 6 person tent and my husband and two boys (ages 7 and 2) fit just right without being on top of each other. I think getting 2 tents was appropriate. Not letting the older girls in when it's obviously raining and cold? Completely unacceptable.

Anonymous said...

Moi said:

10 sleeping bags: 600.00
4 air mattressess: 200.00
2 6-man tents: 300.00
5 battery op lanterns: 110.00
10 marshmallow forks: 12.99
24 batteries: 14.00
1 box glow necklaces/sticks: 20.00
3 (?) giant koosh balls: 36.00
2 bags marshmallows: 2.18
1 box graham crackers: 2.79
6 hershey bars: 2.49
1 bundle firewood: 4.00
1 Vtech game set: very free

Total: 1304.45

Having 8 kids in this day and age, and raising them at no cost to yourself? PRICELESS.

I nominate this for the Quote of the Week!

booboo19 said...

Ok, I have a question and please don't jump on me if it has been answered before...Last night when Leah (or whoever)cut her lip, it got me thinking...they go to the dentist, the eye doctor, you know they go to the pediatrician, who pays for their medical insurance??? The cost for all 10 of them must be astronomical. If Kon doesn't pay, why not?

Linda said...

Can anyone tell me what did Kate's shirt say...

dotsicle said...

"The thing that strikes me is that her house is so bare, no books and barely any toys in sight, so they probably are NOT exposed to much."

No books in sight, yet in one of the old shows Jon mentioned that the kids destroy books. That bothered me, because the kids in my family were raised to respect books (and other possessions). I guess we see no books in the Gosselin house because the kids have torn them all up. Aren't those kids being taught to value their belongings? Their toys and books are likely all they'll get from their show "earnings.

Barbara in VA said...

How many young parents could just stroll into a camping store and pick up all that new stuff -- never mind the cost? Not too many, I'll wager. That pissed me off, too. And the self-righteousness in it! ARG!

That T-shirt had to be self-mockery, right? The woman can not be thinking anyone else needs to shut up. Kate: Big dramatic sigh. Oh, you do ramble on, Jon.

Lots and lots of blush and oil. I guess their contract does not include a make-up coach (or personality coach). You are sitting around your house and you have those gigantic stripes on your face and an oil slick on your legs and we are supposed to believe you are cooking and cleaning and taking care of kids?

The blatent commercialism of this episode made me watch it and it was un-friggin'-believable. Could they have gotten any closer to that TV programming device (won't mention it) and notice how they slowly panned all the nicely lined up DVDs or what-not that come with them. What over 4 year old child does not know his abc's, numbers, etc? Again, Kon is trying to make them more like babies to market them. They make me sick.

I believe Katie Irene could not be out there for the marshmallows because even for money she could not take them getting it in their hair and such. Figure 8 did that so the rest of us could see, hey, they DO allow them to get dirty and play like kids. Sure they do.

Anonymous said...

you can camp out for cheap. We did it all the time as kids. We had a CHEAP tent and who needs sleeping bags...

HELLO....it's called blankets and pillows. I think most of us on here could camp out if we REALLY wanted to.

Barbara in VA said...

Two other points I just have to make. When Alexis was bleeding in the store, what mother would not have just gotten something out of her purse or from a person working there to hold onto the little girl's lip, behaving calmly so as not to further scare the child? Not our Katie. She has to make it out to be a huge ordeal (you'd think she had never had kids) and scream at Jon because she could not handle a bloody lip herself? Puh-lease.

I hope I'm wrong, but I thought I saw in a promo last night that Kate gives Jon a big kiss after HE arranges for them to renew their vows in Hawaii. Oh, my, gosh, tell me they aren't trying to pull off that Jon arranged and paid for everything? It was all Jon, right? Then he is even a bigger fool than he appears to be.

That statement "It wasn't about me, it was about the kids" -- could that have been more damage control oriented? Sounds like someone has been reading how selfish people see she is. I truly don't know how they can continue this farce much longer.

Anonymous said...

moi...you forgot 8 little dustpans so they can be kate's cleaner maids. well...when her other cleaner maids arent around!

A Mom said...

This episode was interesting for me.

Things I noticed and my thoughts.

V-tech--contrived in the show, unnecessary to have a preamble to the actual commercial. In acting class, they teach us that acting is playing pretend "honestly". Kate sounded very forced and monotone and blase. How V-tech thought that would sell, I have no idea.

Dick's--even with that and Coleman blurred out, we knew where they were and what brand they were buying. Dick's had never been fuzzed out before--they had gone to buy the golf clubs before. Very clear this family has gone commercial and that they shall not endorse directly unless being compensated.

Did they really buy all that camping stuff themselves??? I have a hard time believing that Figure 8 foots the bill for everything.

Joel eating things--he's done it forever. Definitely behavioral, not sure if there is a cause or not of the family. Some kids just remain "oral" and eat things without thinking "yuck" for quite a long time.

Kate looked like she was definitely enjoying her kids.

I'm not sure if they are being "coached" per se--she can't act well at this point as clear in her VO for V-tech. I would lean that maybe Figure 8 has provided a therapist of some kind--b/c it would be impossible for Kate to act her way out of lifelong behavior. (if that makes any sense--it takes work to do do make believe and make people believe it and I just don't think she is up for that task).

I'm curious of what next week is. I thought the way they behaved that it probably is Hawaii coming up.

As far as traveling while pregnant..I've done it several times and one trip did include a trip to Hawaii (extended family get together several years in the making). I even had a medical scare the week before but was cleared 100% and everything was fine. (the scare was one of those scary but totally normal things that could happen and all tests revealed a perfectly healthy baby).

moi said...

Anonymous said, "moi...you forgot 8 little dustpans so they can be kate's cleaner maids. well...when her other cleaner maids arent around!"

Oh I can't take credit for that list! Another anonymous poster listed it way up in the thread. I italicized it to indicate quoting. I simply added the final sentence. :)

cardamom said...

Re: Barbara in Va:
That T-shirt had to be self-mockery, right?
LOL --I thought the same thing when she told Jon "you do ramble." Katie dear rarely has nice things to say to or about Jon (at least on camera). She's the one that tends to ramble, IMO.
Kate should take her own (T-shirt) advice, and, in the words of Doug Heffernan (The King of Queens show):
"Take the next train to Shuttytown!"

5monkeys said...

LOL ~ I just read the article a poster above linked to. It was funny, except the comment about Jodi.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/columnists/celia_rivenbark/story/585004.html

Have you seen "Jon and Kate Plus 8," the reality TV show about a Pennsylvania couple who are raising one set of twins and slightly younger sextuplets? While I would've been tempted to just name them Dopey, Sneezy, Grumpy, etc. as they kept popping out, Jon and Kate Gosselin aren't the frivolous type.

What fascinates - and repels - is the couple's weird dynamic: She kvetches and finishes his sentences; he walks around in a stupor most of the time fretting about his workout or his teeth-whitening or where they should go on vacation.

While most fans admit they love the show because of the rambunctious, adorable Gosselin children, I just fast-forward the TiVo through all the kid scenes. Any time I sense a loooong scene of eight kids eating Cheerios for breakfast, I just go "boo-boop" and get back to Jon and Kate chatting on the couch. Really, until those kids are old enough to discuss the environmental impact of offshore drilling, I'll speed through the endless "Ball! My ball! Ball!" arguments.

In each episode, Jon and Kate spend a lot of time on a cramped loveseat facing an anonymous interviewer and nudging each other in the ribs (a little too hard, I think) and bantering.

A bit player is "Aunt Jodi," a slightly anorexic looking young mom with a penchant for clothes that have that distressing Quacker Factory vibe to them. Jodi once agreed to take care of the eight kids - six of whom HAD THE FLU - while Jon and Kate flew to California for Jon's new hair plugs.

When Jon got home and complained about how much his scalp hurt, Jodi would've been within her rights to carve him up like a Christmas ham on the spot but she is way too nice for that.

Another bit player is Kate's OCD, which the show exploits endlessly. Watching her yell at the workmen for installing new blinds incorrectly, as in a tiny fraction off center, was downright uncomfortable. Kate is very big on, If You Want Something Done Right, Do It Yourself. Just ask Jon. Who hasn't been able to do anything right in a very long time, possibly ever. We'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't just such a self-absorbed schmoe, surfing the web while Kate cooks endless organic meals and scrubs imaginary dust from the baseboards.

If only she'd let him finish a sentence.

Jon: "We were going to go ..."

Kate: "To the park, but there was a piece of dried bubble gum on the underside of one of the picnic benches so I said we should skedaddle to the museum ..."

Jon: "Is skedaddle really a word?"

Kate: (giggling) "Shut up you moron." (Jabs him in the ribs til blood comes out of his mouth.)

Ratings gold, my friends. Ratings gold.

Anonymous said...

former fan quinn said:

It's kinda ironic that this episode aired this week because this past weekend my hubby and I talked about going camping. We only have one child. We decided not to go because it's too expensive so we couldn't. So to see them going on a shopping spree was annoying to me.


Exactly! Same thing here. Just discussed it and decided it was too expensive. A couple of weeks
ago, my son couldn't attend a scouting sleepover because we couldn't afford to get him a sleeping bag at the time. It's not jealousy, but it is annoying to see these people load up their carts and then later comment that "gee, that went well...I think we'll probably do that again." Bottom line - it's insulting to the viewer. Where on earth did the producers of this show get the idea that hard working American families would want to sit and watch this parade of commercialism week after week?

5monkeys said...

My random observations from the campout episode. (sorry if any of these have been mentioned previously, and I'm sorry if some seem dumb).

~Jenny was not around

~Jon was careful to hide the credit card he handed to the cashier, as if he didn't want anyone zooming in to see what was on it.

~Kate appeared to be talking on a cell phone when they got back into the van after leaving the sporting goods store.

~The girls headbands did not match their outfits while at the store. Shirts had cherries on them, headbands were stars. (this isn't a big deal to me, but in the past, Kate always made sure hair accessories coordinated with their clothes).

~The kids were not wearing bibs during marshmallow roasting/smores. Probably because the kids had on "play" clothes ~ a definite first for them.

~Some mentioned they couldn't find a nearby Dicks where J&K live. I think they went to one that was far away - the kids had sippy cups in the store (I cringed when I saw that, it is not something I would personally do), and some kids were sleeping when they got back. Which made me think it was a long drive.

~Kate was not micromanaging the marshmallow roasting.

~John telling the kids that the marshmallow forks were not weapons. This isn't the 1st time I heard Jon (or Kate) tell the kids that a certain item wasn't a weapon. Why the need to constantly remind them? It's something I wonder about.

Anonymous said...

J&K, Vtech,TLC, Figure 8 et.al., here's a new word for you:
Altogether now, "ex·ploi·ta·tion" [ek-sploi-tey-shuhn]

That's right, but a little louder, please.

Anonymous said...

Campin' in the backyard is something I can relate to! I camped out in the backyard once! I've never been to Hawaii or Utah. I've never had plastic surgery, although I need it. I've never been to a spa. But I camped in the backyard!

Were you showered with piles of expensive camping equipment all free of charge too?

Anonymous said...

When I camped out in the back yard as a child, we just had a tent. We would go into the tent for a while during the day, then go back into the house. Our "camping" never lasted more than a few minutes and it was always during the day.

Sera said...

Anonymous said...
10 sleeping bags: 600.00
4 air mattressess: 200.00
2 6-man tents: 300.00
5 battery op lanterns: 110.00
10 marshmallow forks: 12.99
24 batteries: 14.00
1 box glow necklaces/sticks: 20.00
3 (?) giant koosh balls: 36.00
2 bags marshmallows: 2.18
1 box graham crackers: 2.79
6 hershey bars: 2.49
1 bundle firewood: 4.00
1 Vtech game set: very free
Total: 1304.45
======================

To be fair, you are very generous on the cost of camping equipment. they did not appear to buy top-of-the-lne tents or sleeping bags, I highly doubt they spent $900 on those things alone. You can get a decent sleeping bag for like $30, not $60...the air beds they bought looked very similar to the Coleman ones that sell at Canadian Tire for $30 each. I know they didn't pay for any of this stuff but I also don't think it coat $1300 either.

But I digress. This episode had a few good points in it: Jon let the kids have fun and get messy, and Mady actually said she liked camping out (yay Mady!).

I didn't like that Kate made Joel scared of bears with that comment about how the bear was hungry for Joel Kevin's.

Also, really, who needs a marshmallow roasting fork? My dad used to just collect long sticks, file down the ends with a knife and we'd roat them on the stick, it was great!

ThreeFarmers said...

Philosophically speaking....

If Kate bitches in the woods, but there's no crew to film it, is Jon still wrong?

hmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous said...

I wanted to add more to my camping in the backyard post. Sleeping bags, flashlights and other camping equipment aren't necessary for backyard camping. When we camped in the backyard as children, we got bored after a few minutes, then moved on to another activity. So, if you buy sleeping bags for backyard camping, children might not have the interest or patience to even get into the sleeping bags. You would just end up with expensive props. Also, in response to the 10:25 am poster, no one ever gave my parents anything for free.

Holly said...

FYI for those of you who asked what her shirt said or for anyone who couldn't see it clearly, it can be viewed here:
http://www.onlinechristianshopper.com/wochjutduta.html

babyaby said...

they were at the Dicks in Harrisburg. Its about a 15 minute drive

Anonymous said...

I would have enjoyed watching them go to the thrift store to buy camping equipment -- like normal people do. Can you imagine Kate and her OCD at a thrift store picking through all the smelly clothing? I would LOVE to see that episode!

I'd also like to see the episode where Jon leaves the house at 3:30 AM to stand in line to get the kids into the only affordable church preschool in their town for the following year.

And the one where they argue about whether they should get the ten year old car with 150,000 miles on it fixed -- again -- or whether they should look for another new used car.

Anonymous said...

"A couple of weeks
ago, my son couldn't attend a scouting sleepover because we couldn't afford to get him a sleeping bag at the time. It's not jealousy, but it is annoying to see these people load up their carts and then later comment that "gee, that went well...I think we'll probably do that again." Bottom line - it's insulting to the viewer. Where on earth did the producers of this show get the idea that hard working American families would want to sit and watch this parade of commercialism week after week?"

9/09/2008 10:07 AM

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But to go even farther than that, when Jon was talking about, if they ever went "real" camping, he'd be the one carrying all the "garbage" to the campsite. Yeah garbage. Real appreciative Jon for all you have in life.

I can't believe the level of entitlement, non-appreciation and the need for material goods on this show. What about simplicity, normalcy and just REALITY. None of this does this show even have.

It's just big, bigger, biggest while fitting the 8 kids into the materialistic perfect picture of you have to have fancy things, new things and expensive places to visit to have fun, bond as a family and enjoy yourselves.

It is just sad anyway you look at it. And so unrelateable to the families out there who are just trying to get by, trying to survive in this economy. It at times even seems like a slap in the face. "Look everyone, watch what expensive day trip we take this week, or exotic vacation we take or expensive items we get for free while you sit at home and worry about your bills and your husband's job." Turn on Jon and Kate, you'll feel better about your situation. Not.

I don't know, this show has gotten so off course and so unrealistic. Thanks for letting me vent. I just can't watch it anymore. There is nothing about it being "fun" or "real" to me anymore, and hasn't been for some time. Kate and her fakeness on this show really was the nail on the coffin. Does TLC expect us to believe she's had a sudden transformation into a nice mommy/wife? Really? The National Enquirer article/backlash had nothing to do with it?

Enough already.

K.C. said...

IMO Chris makes a very good point. I think the writing may FINALLY be on the wall for Jon and Kate. Especially considering what they are reportedly saying at their most recent speaking engagements. I have read comments about J&K now claiming they want the photo money and/or donations because they will continue to have "future needs", such as...weddings, braces, J&K's RETIREMENT, and other equally absurd things. I've seen this, not just from the people who recently attended one of their speeches, but now it has also been confirmed on PennMommy's blog. Unbeknownst to Jon and Kate, people aren't this idiotic. Who in the world would throw money into their retirement fund? These two are utterly delusional.

I did not watch this show but I have read lots of comments about it. From what I can tell, it looks like I didn't miss much!

Here are my thoughts based on the comments I have seen:

Someone on another site posted that the bloody lip scene in the store is worse when you watch it without the volume.

Is Aaden really NOT wearing his glasses in most of this episode? If this is true, it seems awfully vain, even for J&K. But then again, they did choose a photo of Aaden 'sans spectacles' for their revamped website.

One more thing, I agree that Kate's excitement in next week's preview will likely be a staged version of "Kate, will you re-marry me in Hawaii?" from Jon. If J&K think they are entitled to retire off the kindness of strangers, then I'm sure they are of the opinion that the public is foolish enough to believe they are madly in love and Jon planned this elaborate fantasy wedding for her. I can just see it now, the farce will be complete with product placement by Tiffany & Co.--because I'm sure Kate thinks her current ring is not good enough!

~D~ said...

I loved this episode. I didn't see one thing that bothered me. I hope that with all of our talk Kate is actually watching the way she treats her kids. At the very least.

Perdue Family said...

must be nice to not even look at the prices of items

Anonymous said...

~~But to go even farther than that, when Jon was talking about, if they ever went "real" camping, he'd be the one carrying all the "garbage" to the campsite. Yeah garbage.~~

I noticed that 'garbage' comment, too. If he would have said "stuff" I wouldn't have been offended. I have this belief that if you give a man enough rope, he'll hang himself and that's precisely what's happening to this fiasco of a show. All the damage control episodes in the world won't help these people. They're cooking their own Gosselin goose. And now it's just a matter of time until it's 'done'.

Travis said...

I apologize if this has been mentioned in one of the earlier posts, but I didn't see what glow sticks, water bottles, squishy balls and miniature dustpans had to do with camping? Yet, they managed to score all of that on top of the other equipment.

This episode was a nice change of pace, though. It didn't show diva Kate nearly as much as they usually do. Aaden wanting all of the chocolate made me chuckle.

Ettie said...

threefarmers said...
Philosophically speaking....

If Kate bitches in the woods, but there's no crew to film it, is Jon still wrong?

Comment of the week! TF, you crack me up daily :-)))

Maggie said...

Just a reminder that any nominations for "Comment of the Week" need to go in that specific thread. You can mention it in other threads, but it will not be nominated unless it is posted in the correct thread as well.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe Kate wouldn't let Mady and Cara sleep in her tent. What kind of Mom does that?!? Those poor kids. They are going to have ISSUES when they grow up.

ThreeFarmers said...

I haven't seen the episode and hopefully I can fight the urge to watch. Did Kate really make a comment of Joel about bears eating all the Joel Kevins?

That seem quite harsh to me, even for Kate?

Anonymous said...

Buying camping equipment is expensive, but I am not going to critize them for getting free stuff.

They aren't getting free stuff. They are exchanging commodities -- their children's privacy and dignity in exchange for material goodies. That's a pretty steep price.

K.C. said...

Anon (6:53 AM) said..."Did she need to go to LA for Jon's hair plugs while leaving sick kids? She should have let him go alone. He was not anesthetized for the procedure. He could have flown to LA, had the procedure done, and returned home alone. She makes some nonmotherly decisions--I think she likes the limelight a little too much."

Per Julie, Kate had a spa day in CA while Jon was getting his new hair. Apparently, that is why Kate was bound and determined to fly off and leave her sick babies with Jodi. Kevin even offered to go with Jon but Kate wouldn't have it.

I think she likes the SPA a little too much!

ettie said...

Anon said...I can't believe Kate wouldn't let Mady and Cara sleep in her tent. What kind of Mom does that?!? Those poor kids. They are going to have ISSUES when they grow up.

____________
They have issues NOW!

Anonymous said...

I usually laugh at Kate and her ignorance and greed, but, her turning away her two little girls in the dark and the rain...man, that was too cold for me.

DirtyDisher

Anonymous said...

I tried you guys. I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt. I watched because I really love children, and I liked watching the eight growing up. Even though it's awful for them to grow up on tv, if their parents were going to let them, I was going to continue to watch. Even knowing it was wrong. And the snarking after watching was a big bonus.

But, I couldn't even get through the entire episode last night. I started reading a book instead. Enough of this already. Of course I'll come here to read about the show, (to keep the "Visitors To Date" growing and to be nosey) but I can't watch that crap anymore. At some point trainwrecks aren't worth looking at...you've seen one you've seen them all. Stick a overpriced, totally unnecessary just for camping marshmallow fork in me, I'm done!

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see Cara last night? The part of the show I could stomach I did not see her at all!She has been successfully avoiding the camera, IMO. Or do you all think they are honoring her wishes and not having her shown so much? No? Me neither!

former fan quinn said...

anon said "They aren't getting free stuff. They are exchanging commodities -- their children's privacy and dignity in exchange for material goodies. That's a pretty steep price."

Yes I agree! Maybe it'snot as hilarious as some other quotes but it makes a great point. I nominate it for quote of the week.

Also what's with the marshmallow spears, I mean forks, that the kids were using?

This spending spree, going on trips, unemploed lifestyle is insulting to viewers (someone else noted this too). It's the same as stage moms/dads who live off of their kids paychecks.

Wear all the Christian shirts you want Kon, you're exploiting your kids.

4tolove said...

9/09 at 12:22 Anon said: "They aren't getting free stuff. They are exchanging commodities -- their children's privacy and dignity in exchange for material goodies. That's a pretty steep price."

Well said Anon and I completely agree. Concerning the kids dignity and privacy, it might be to their benefit for KON to check into the concept of "Child Honouring", and read "A Covanant for Honouring Children" written by the children's entertainer and advocate, Raffi. It is a profound statement that speaks volumes about the importance of nurturing love.
(http://www.raffinews.com/child-honouring/covenant-principles)

Concerning the V-tch product placement in both the commercial broadcast and within the actual show:

I wonder what the folks over at the "Campaign for a Commercial Free Childhood" (http://www.commercialfreechildhood.org/) think about using the Gosselin kids to sell this product. For that matter, I wonder what they think about the fact that these children’s lives are one big commercial. Might be worth getting in touch with them…..

Anonymous said...

Poor Joel biting the glow necklace and getting the liquid all over his mouth. Hmm I wonder if he was chewing on it because his mother scared him about the bears coming after him? I also wonder why they didn't show that whole scene on TV? Damage control again? Too much yelling at Joel from his parents after he did that? Too much negative feedback after they scolded Collin for eating the Playdoh and Crayola Factory??

The reason they didn't show that scene on TV was because it wasn't filmed. There were no cameras in the tents while everyone slept. Joel bit his glow stick open at night (we saw from the house camera that Jon dumps the glow stuff out in the dark, so it was night). And Kate was in her own tent, so she couldn't have yelled at him.

angiemack said...

I haven't seen the episode and hopefully I can fight the urge to watch. Did Kate really make a comment of Joel about bears eating all the Joel Kevins?

I rarely defend Kate, but come on, ya'll... She was being silly! She was trying to be fun and funny with her little boy. Let's please be rational, and not take things so literally. It was definitely not the same tone as her "If you eat that you will DIE!" comments, which I think are quite terrible.

This comes to my next point.. Jon had every right to fuss at Joel for biting the glow stick. That stuff could have been - and may very well be - toxic. There is a proper way to scold without promising DEATH, and at least Jon didn't follow Kate's lead on that one.

Anonymous said...

We did a campout of sorts at our house lately. We bought a tent on clearance and moved all of the furniture out of our living room and set it up in there (it was too hot to camp out in the yard). The kids had a wonderful time. We used to "camp" on our deck with just some blankets when I was a kid. I was living in WA at the time so we usually got rained out, but it was still fun. You don't need to spend a lot of money for camping unless you are actually going somewhere else.

I think they did go a bit overboard on the camping stuff. But to be fair, they probably couldn't have found enough sleeping bags at a consignment shop for everyone. And maybe in the future, when the kids are older, Jon will take them camping for real. I can't see Kate going, but she did say she camped as a child even though she hated it because she loved the people she went with. Maybe, just maybe, she will decide she loves her kids enough for that as well.

Does anyone else doubt that Kate really made it through the night outside? I'm betting she really went inside and slept warm and dry (I'm not sure I blame her if they were as wet as they said).

Anonymous said...

What happened to "the next time girl's sleep in the same room with boys is when they're married?"

Give me a break. Kate turning away the girls and telling them to go sleep in the boy's tent was so selfish but so Kate. Is it just me or is Kate fostering some wierdness by making Jon do everything for the girls from bathing them to dressing them to letting them sleep in his tent. At age 7 or 8 I would have wanted to go in my mom's tent. That's just natural. The rigid gender typing Kate does makes no sense when Jon is the kid's maternal caregiver. Except he is not a female, he's a man.

Kristee said...

I remember Jon talking about how destructive the tups are. I think it was in the episode where Kate is organizing the house for winter and shops with Beth. Jon said that they have destroyed libraries worth of books, so they do have books available to them.

Each episode is just trying to portray Kate in a better light. If she had been this way all along it would have been one thing, but it's to late for me to buy it now.

I was kinda impressed that Jon was trying to salvage the camping for the kids. It was cute that he gave the kids a 3 marshmellow head start before the Grinch came out and put a damper on all the fun. I hate to give Jon credit b/c he could stop all this madness if he had the balls to. I do see him has the lesser of two evils and he does try to get all the kids to have fun....just my opinion. I'll never say that what they are doing as parents is right, but I do think that Jon is trying to think of the kids way more than Kate ever will.

MommySusan1 said...

Was it just me or was the "sign" in the yard in the scene where they were backing the van out of the driveway to go to the store? Did anyone else see it? Or was it up & down long before this was shot?

alana said...

alana said...

130> comments and at least 50% of them inanely ignore a major no-no on the moderator's new list of "why didn't my comment ever show up?"

It goes something like this: "...we don't care if you can relate because you had a mother just like Kate; personal narratives are OT."

The myriad of analogies, ie., how old my kids were when they could successfully do Quantum Physics vs. the 'tups are four and they're still pre-algebra.

IMO, the abbrev. -'tups -
makes me cringe; it's like writing X-mas.

Then we have the battle of the best diets for little kids, followed by an exorbitant number of posts that compare and contrast the pros and cons of commercialized Christianity. That is a no-no for a reason - it's boring.

I see the beginnings of inside jokes and personal notes, as demonstrated by all those kittens and Dear so-and-so-in-particular.

I find posts devoted entirely to what Kate or John should have done or might have done, as opposed to what actually happened - boring at best. I'm not referring to sara's essay.

Like many of you, this is the first time I've ever read or written to a blog. I was initially impressed by this one because "people seemed to have a bit higher I.Q.s and writing skills here." The posts were easy to read and most were hilariously entertaining.

Add to that just the right amount of credible juicey information on J&K Plus 8 and I'd stopped watching All my Children in order to spend an hour a day, or more, here.

The moderators do a stellar job; no wonder they need a rest! I think the least I can do is try to follow their directions. I have to believe they know a lot more about creating a successful website than I do. If they ask that posts be done a certain way or ask that other posts not be done at all, that's the least I can do in return.

I (we) owe you BIG time, moderators. Thank you!

Paula S said...

"Except he is not a female, he's a man."

I disagree. He may be a male, but he is no man.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Poor Joel biting the glow necklace and getting the liquid all over his mouth. Hmm I wonder if he was chewing on it because his mother scared him about the bears coming after him? I also wonder why they didn't show that whole scene on TV? Damage control again? Too much yelling at Joel from his parents after he did that? Too much negative feedback after they scolded Collin for eating the Playdoh and Crayola Factory??

The reason they didn't show that scene on TV was because it wasn't filmed. There were no cameras in the tents while everyone slept. Joel bit his glow stick open at night (we saw from the house camera that Jon dumps the glow stuff out in the dark, so it was night). And Kate was in her own tent, so she couldn't have yelled at him.

9/09/2008 2:01 PM

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I disagree. That camera was there obviously all night filming the activities. Granted it was a stationary camera and I doubt any crew was there supervising the filming but that scene was abruptly cut short if you rewatch it. You can tell by the tone of Jon's voice he was not happy. You don't need a camera in the tent or live crew to catch the feel of what had just happened. And I doubt Kate just sat in her tent while this went on. If my kid bit into some (possible) toxic substance, probably made in China, I would be all over it. I would have brought him inside and washed his mouth out. If she did just sit in her tent while that went on, then that is just plain sad.

Also if you rewatch the couch scene, Jon is about to say something about Joel while describing what happened, but they cut away real quick mid-sentence. It's obvious more went on, but they chose to edit it out because it would of been Joel bashing, and they're reading the boards and hearing the complaints - they pick on Joel way too much. Damage control once again.

Anonymous said...

Also regarding Jon, I do feel sorry for him at times. Granted he is an adult and can choose to end this nightmare for his kids, just like he can choose to get he and his wife into counseling. In a scene in the camping store, it was so painfully obvious that he is there trying to please his wife all the time. It's like she expects him to read her mind at all times. He answers her questions while looking at the camera, like seeing if the camera picked up an embarrassing situation for him yet again.

It is so sad and must be so hard on him to live with someone while walking on eggshells all the time. That is the reality of the show, not this farce TLC is trying to potray every week.

Anonymous said...

I rarely defend Kate, but come on, ya'll... She was being silly! She was trying to be fun and funny with her little boy. Let's please be rational, and not take things so literally. It was definitely not the same tone as her "If you eat that you will DIE!" comments, which I think are quite terrible. Scaring people to amuse yourself, no matter who does it is NOT FUNNY. If he was older he might have the knowledge that couldn't happen. A 4 year old doesn't have the intelligence to realize it's not but a joke. Not surprising as Kate does seem to have a sick sense of what constitutes appropriate behavior both as a wife and a mom, that her ha, ha aren't I just so witty comes off just as bad as her aren't I a cute wife giving my husband love taps. Blergh.
IMO the comments on this board about the kids not knowing certain things are not meant to be derogatory comments about the children. This is not the children's fault. I believe many of us are outraged at the laziness of these so-called parents. How 'hands-off' can someone be? Seriously, there is no excuse for relying on a video game to teach their kids! Exactly what I got from those posts too. I only heard the refrain that Kate touting they needed to learn their letters and numbers was stupid because they don't need expensive crap to do that just the time and attention from their two non working stay at vacation resort after vacation resort parents. I guess it's too hard to teach your children the basics when you are jetting off to Utah, FL, CA, HI, and God knows where to collect love offerings in between filming another pricy vacation of the month.
Good for Dicks and Colemans for choosing not to become sponsors and getting blurred. I hope it was before they got all the expensive crap they didn't need to do a simple overnight stay in their backyard. Goodness knows they are too good to hit the army navy store and pick up some old pup tents or make their own bedrolls from old blankets or use a sharpen stick to roast their marshmallows.
The Gosselins and Figure 8 are about as intelligent as a jelly bean. The shows are just one big advertisement and about as real as Jack and the Beanstalk or any other fairy tale. What lie will they show next week?
It took me a full half second to realize what a load of horse manure was going to be thrown out with the glimpse of Katie Irene's shirt with the taped over mouth. Kate, practice that yourself because if any one needs to follow that advice it's you, you and you again.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Wow, a thirty minute commercial for Dick's Sporting Goods and VTech. Go figure

Actually I'm pretty sure that was the Coleman outlet store at the Rockvale Square outlets in Lancaster. And notice Jon attempting to conceal what was probably a gift card they were using to pay for all that stuff...

Anonymous said...

To the educator who posted as Anon:

1) I think that Kate cupping her hand under Leah's chin is a natural reflex that we all would probably do, HOWEVER, it also serves its purpose of trying to prevent any blood stains on the sure-to-be consigned Gymboree clothing

2) I am the person who wrote about Kate not nurturing or educating her children. You must be new to this site if you can sincerely enjoy the "cute" scenes and don't realize the price those kids have to pay for them. I am not trying to be nasty- it's just that when you ask " Why can't we all focus on the great times?", my answer to you would be because many of us know that those great times are more often than not damage control, more often than not contrived to produce an episode, and more often than not, the kids are not having a great time.

As a side note: I struggle with my feelings for Jon. Yes, he is part of the scam and he has no balls, but I think it is very apparent he does love his children and likes to have fun with them. He is also much more affectionate with them than Kate the ogre. And, even if he did scold Joel and we , the audience , weren't privy to that dialogue, he had every right to be upset. I would panic that my child just injested poison, and I would not be too calm either.

Linda said...

Anonymous said...

I agree.Ease up people. We should give them more credit for feeding and teaching their children, and it's actually refreshing for parents to be saying "my kids need help with something and don't know something like their letters" than hearing parents constantly bragging about their kids. The Gosselins are normal, healthy, well-fed, beautiful children with nothing wrong with them as far as I can tell, but I do believe the show needs to stop.


You know, I don't think Jon $ Kate should be eased up on. What they are doing is making money off the backs of their own flesh and blood. Animal actors have more rights than these poor little ones.

So Kon is actually doing the kids a favor by not sitting and teaching them, they can avoid the ranks of parents who brag about their kids. Perhaps what Kate should have said was "I've kept my kids too busy 'making memories' to sit and teach them".

And of course the kids are well fed, they are the sole earners of the family and have proven to be a very hot commodity.

IMO, the fact that we are seeing damage control screams that this is a scripted show, not an inside glimsp of their life. And the children are suffering, we've seen it ooze out in so many different ways.

Damage control does not undo the lies that Kon told, the money they solicited and accepted under false pretenses and putting their kids to work to make J&K's life easy.

Anonymous said...

I think "tups" is a cute word. I wrote a personal narrative about camping in the backyard, because I finally could relate to a Gosselin activity. When Kate got plastic surgery, when they went to Hawaii... was about well-off people who have everything they need or want. The Gosselins seemed like an abstraction. The Gosselins went to a store (to buy camping equipment), then went home. That sounds like my life: I rarely go anywhere special. I did go on a "vacation" recently: the air was smoky because of forest fires. I felt sick from not getting enough oxygen, so I went to an area with smoke-free air for a "vacation."
Maybe they can have more shows about everyday adventures that more people can relate to.

Anonymous said...

Also, in response to the 10:25 am poster, no one ever gave my parents anything for free.

I was just joking actually.
You mentioned that you could relate to the episode and I was just pointing out that it would have been relatable to many of us if it weren't for the pile of free sporting goods.
But I totally agree with you - all that stuff is not necessary in order to enjoy a backyard camp out.

Anonymous said...

Christine said...
What no ORGANIC marshmallows from Whole Foods Kate? Had to settle for the white trash version Jet Puff?

Yeah, and how 'bout allowing four year olds to cook them until they are burnt and carcinogenic--pretty much the opposite of organic and/or healthy. Kate had to settle because we don't have a Whole Foods or Trader Joe's 'round here...though I suppose that wouldn't necesarily stop Kate--some organic foods company should just ship them case upon case of free stuff. And really, she settled for plain 'ol Hershey bars instead of the $2 per bar Dagobah organic line. Jon must have done the shopping and REALLY screwed up...

ThreeFarmers said...

I can hardly wait until they take the 'tups X-mas shopping. Last year's epi proved to be a cornucopia of marital discord between Hydra and Jon. For me, that was the episode where I got my fill of Kate. The show jumped the shark at Toys-R-Us.

Anonymous said...

I do not understand why J&K would spend so much money on camping equipment if they were not sure the kids would actually enjoy camping. They did it with the golf clubs for the boys too. When my son was in Cub scouts and subsequently Boy Scouts, we borrowed a tent to find out if he even wanted to camp again. Eventually he had all of the equipment but it was usually part of his Christmas gifts, you know a sleeping bag here, canteen there. I am surprised they didn't have frame backpacks that you use for hiking. Also some of our best finds came from army-navy catalogs. We got a great sleeping bag that had been used by the French army or something. It was for below freezing weather and would accomodate my then 6' son.

dixietrixie said...

As a trained Girl Scout camping adult, I saw many safety issues with the Gosselin's campfire.

- One adult with 8 young children around a campfire? Scouts require 2 adults for every 5 Daisies (K and 1st grade girls) let alone 4 year olds.

- Those retractable roasting forks? Yes, they are weapons. With only one adult present, there should have been only one fork in use at a time.

- Starting a fire with paper? Jon, can you say flying ashes??

- Not tying back the long hair on the girls.

- Not sitting with their feet on the ground.

- And, my personal favorite, going to bed and leaving the fire burning. Didn't Jon say it had not rained there in three weeks before that night?

Yes, I know this was not a scouting trip, but you would think that parents that are so careful about something like gum would take the time to learn a little about fire safety.

I did have a fleeting moment when I thought "oh what a lovely experience for the kids" but then I imagined the real scene with a camera man and production crew hovering around and that killed it for me. Hopefully it didn't ruin it for the kids too. By now, all of their memory making experiences have included Figure 8 in the background.

armywife4life said...

It was nice to see the kids having fun, but the syrupy sweet fake Kate is rotting my teeth...

Anonymous said...

I admit, I have been a fan of this show....up until recent episodes when the kids started to get older. Things just seemed different. The show is more about endorsements and free things they all get. It used to be a show about middle-class, "average" people with a larger than average family. Kate before even seemed grateful for special time off to go to the spa, getting new things for the kids, and going places that are usually impossible for a big family. People could *relate* to coupon using, worrying about time with the kids, and trying to budget with the family's needs. But now, it seems that the show became a show for a larger-than-average-family with better-than-average vacations, trips, free clothes, property, and experiences. They've stopped caring about the little expenses, cuz hey, they don't need to worry about that stuff!

One of the saddest parts for this latest episode was when Kate banished her twin girls into the cold because she wanted the tent to herself and the little girls. What parent does that? Even if it was crowded, she could have reasoned and told one twin to stay and another go to Jon's to even out the body-count. I guess being a parent of eight allows a person to become more selfish as time goes by? And I noticed Kate's favoritism of Hannah. Usually, Hannah and Leah sleep together, right? But no...she had to have mommy's favorite helper in bed with her while having Leah with Alexis (the outsider).

Anonymous said...

to 7:25 anon, Jon and Kate don't spend money on anything. Everything they need is given to them.

Anonymous said...

Many viewers can relate to camping in the backyard. I have some ideas for other shows that viewers can relate to... Jon and Kate's washing machine broke. So everyone goes to the laundromat to wash clothes. See how Jon and Kate wash and dry clothes while watching all of their children. Another idea: Jon and Kate's van needs a repair. Watch them drive to the repair shop and leave their van there. Then watch all of them ride the bus home. Or, Jon and Kate need a new van. Watch them go to used car lots to see if there is a reasonably priced vehicle for them. Or, Jon and Kate take the kids to a playground. They walk about a mile to the playground; then push their kids on swings; then walk home. If the show need product placement, they can have the children wear t-shirts that advertise various companies.

Georgia said...

Could the same person who did the UTAH synopsis, please do a synopsis on the camping episode.
Thanks

Sara said...

RE: I did have a fleeting moment when I thought "oh what a lovely experience for the kids" but then I imagined the real scene with a camera man and production crew hovering around and that killed it for me."
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THIS is what EVERYONE needs to think about while watching the show. No matter what cute things the kids are doing or saying, if we could just pan out a few feet, we would see the various producers, sound guys, etc. Where ever they go and whatever they do, there is this flock of people following them carrying equipment. Does THAT sound like Jon & Kate are trying to give them a "normal" like? Any Kate fans wanna answer that for me?

By the way, I DID NOT watch this episode. It's the first time EVER that I have not watched the show, so I don't really have any idea of what happened, but I can imagine. But I feel good. I feel like I'm one less person contributing to the demise of 8 childhoods.

Andie said...

It used to be a show about middle-class, "average" people with a larger than average family. Kate before even seemed grateful for special time off to go to the spa, getting new things for the kids, and going places that are usually impossible for a big family. People could *relate* to coupon using, worrying about time with the kids, and trying to budget with the family's needs. But now, it seems that the show became a show for a larger-than-average-family with better-than-average vacations, trips, free clothes, property, and experiences. They've stopped caring about the little expenses, cuz hey, they don't need to worry about that stuff!

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I couldn't agree more. This show has run so far away from what got it popular. It's so unrealistic now.

dotsicle said...

I just want to mention that unless a family participates in the Neilsen ratings program (or is part of a poll), any program they watch on tv is not "counted" by anyone or anything. No other organization/network/spy knows what channel a household is watching, as far as I know.
So, unless you are a Neilsen family, nobody knows what tv shows you watch.
Go ahead and watch J&K without guilt over promoting child exploitation.

Anonymous said...

QUOTE I have read comments about J&K now claiming they want the photo money and/or donations because they will continue to have "future needs", such as...weddings, braces, J&K's RETIREMENT, and other equally absurd things.QUOTE

Retirement....the time when you quit your job, don't work anymore, sleep in late, take lots of vacations, pamper yourself and spend money on yourself like you were previously unable to do. Aren't Jon and Kate already retired?

Libby said...

Anonymous said...

If you notice Kate's shirt in the interview at the start of the episode, it says, "If you don't have anything nice to say" and then it had tape over the mouth of the circle person. Interesting seeming how I would love for her to take her own advice and keep her mouth shut when she feels the need to belittle John or her children. :(
9/08/2008 6:07 PM
Just wanted to say that the t-shirt says the following:
1 Peter 3:10
'Do you really love me? Do you want to be happy? Then stop saying cruel things and quit telling lies.
Jon's t-shirt says:
Our Apostle
Fix your thoughts on Jesus the apostle and high priest whom we confess. Hebrews 3:1

Anonymous said...

"Maybe they can have more shows about everyday adventures that more people can relate to."

IMO, TLC can feature episode after episode of the Gosselin family doing what appears to be 'every day adventures' but more often then not, those episodes will be far from relatable and be viewed with a critical eye. As each episode will feature, exploitation of the children, blatant product placement, contrived and scripted scenerios, all expenses paid, and J & K making every attempt to be on their best behavior to appease the viewing audience. This show has ventured so far to the opposite of representing anything remotely relatable to the 'typical working class family' so much so that it insults the intelligence of the viewing audience and makes J & K and TLC look down right foolish as they attempt every effort to 'sell' this illusion as reality!

Anonymous said...

When Jon was setting the tents up in the garage, Kate had asked if the one opening was a dog door. Jon said it was for Alexis...I'm not sure what to think here...Calling your child a dog does not seem very loving or positive, especially in front of the other children.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, and how 'bout allowing four year olds to cook them until they are burnt and carcinogenic--
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Burnt marshmallows do not cause cancer. Nor does burning them really change their nutritional value (especially considering marshmallows have no nutritional value at all).

I'll give them a complete pass on this because I *love* the taste of burnt marshmallows. It's actually the only way I'll eat them.

Barbara in VA said...

I hope I did not see an ad (because I switched off the TV very quickly) for a new Kon-a-thon on TLC? What are they, TLC, thinking? Are they trying, do you think, to get interest for that shame of a marriage renewal in Hawaii show? I can't imagine.

Does anyone find it strange that a germaphobe control-freak like our Kate allows Hannah to have all that stringy hair right down in her face and no doubt in any food she stands or sits over or helps to stir? It is a terrible mess. You'd think if Kate wanted H. to have her own way and in fact be a "Hawaiian girl with her hair down to her knees" as she said on the couch one time, that she would have it pulled back or in a pony or pigtail. It drives me nuts to see that hanging in the kid's face.

Those poor little boys. I just wonder what their self-esteem is going to be like after all those long years with Kon. Maybe they'll all be super smart and/or super athletic and will get their sense of self from teams and school? I know, wishful thinking. What is left?

Moons in Leo said...

to 7:25 anon, Jon and Kate don't spend money on anything. Everything they need is given to them.

9/09/2008 10:12 PM


And everything they want is given to them.

Anonymous said...

armywife4life:
Not much worse than fake sugar. Kate is so obviously uncomfortable trying to be nice it is painful to watch. Just is not her. Very sad for her family.

notakatelover said...

anonymous said...
Many viewers can relate to camping in the backyard. I have some ideas for other shows that viewers can relate to... Jon and Kate's washing machine broke. So everyone goes to the laundromat to wash clothes. See how Jon and Kate wash and dry clothes while watching all of their children. Another idea: Jon and Kate's van needs a repair. Watch them drive to the repair shop and leave their van there. Then watch all of them ride the bus home. Or, Jon and Kate need a new van......
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If their washing machine broke, do you really think they would go to the laundromat to wash clothes? That is such a reach, even if they had no show or money, Kate would not step foot in a laundromat, she would have someone pick up their laundry and deliver it all folded. Poor, exhausted Kate. Did you notice all the laundry baskets in their living room before they left to visit the hospital? Obviously, they were left there for someone to fold while they were gone. They would have a plea out for a freebie so quickly or Kate would tell Jen that the delivery of a new washer would make a good episode, so get the wheels rolling Jen for a new one.
Same thing with the van. She would convince Figure 8 that it would make a good episode to go van shopping and just like magic, the Gosselin's get a new van.
I shouldn't call exploitation "magic".

Kristee said...

~~~~ThreeFarmers said: I can hardly wait until they take the 'tups X-mas shopping. Last year's epi proved to be a cornucopia of marital discord between Hydra and Jon. For me, that was the episode where I got my fill of Kate. The show jumped the shark at Toys-R-Us.
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Roflmao! This episode nearly did me in as well. Your posts crack me up. Isn't it funny how they re run this episode constantly?

Anonymous said...

This episode was horrible. Kate acting like a princess and acting like camping is so below her. Please lady, get a grip. Most family's actually go out into the woods and camp and have fun. It was nice to see the kids have fun with their little lanterns and eating the marshmallows

Anonymous said...

One more thing - Doesn't Kate's hair look like the lead singer from Flock Of Seagulls?

http://itcouldbenothing.com/fruitfly/images/afos.jpg

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate retired the day Kate gave birth to the tups. hmmm... Actually Jon and Kate retired as soon as Kate found out that fertility treatments can produce multiples. Kate knew she could make a career out of getting huge amounts of money to help her deal with her multiples.

Anonymous said...

"Just wanted to say that the t-shirt says the following:
1 Peter 3:10
'Do you really love me? Do you want to be happy? Then stop saying cruel things and quit telling lies."

Kate should wear this shirt every day as a self reminder and ask herself those very questions. If her wearing said t shirt was a subtle attempt at retaliation to all the 'evil doers', her efforts came across as hypocritical and over the top self righteous!

Anonymous said...

to notakatelover, I know that the
Gosselins would never wash their clothes at a laundromat, or go to used car lots looking for a car or van for themselves. A real Gosselin show episode would be Kate saying that her washing machine broke, then the next episode would show her getting a new washing machine. That's the world the Gosselins live in. And if the Gosselins need, or want, a new car or van, they would panhandle on their TV show to get whatever they need or want. But, if TLC thinks that viewers can't relae to the Gosselins privileged lifestyle, why not show the Gosselins washing clothes at a laundromat before they get a new washing machine? Does Kate have a car or is the van their only vehicle? Why not have an episode that features the Gosselins going to used car lots looking for an SUV, before a sponsor gives them a new SUV? The sponsors and tv show producers might prefer it if viewers can relate to the Gosselins.

K.C. said...

In addition to shamelessly broadcasting the private moments of their minor children on National Television for money, Jon and Kate Gosselin travel 'hither, tither and yon' for speaking engagements and sell photos of their under-age children to strangers for $20 a piece, all while leaving their children with hired help. They do these things in the name of their future needs, (ie braces, weddings, college tuition and THEIR retirement).

Instead of spending money on camping gear, shouldn't they have put it towards their future needs/children's college education?

K.C. said...

1. "The reason they didn't show that scene on TV was because it wasn't filmed. There were no cameras in the tents while everyone slept. Joel bit his glow stick open at night (we saw from the house camera that Jon dumps the glow stuff out in the dark, so it was night). And Kate was in her own tent, so she couldn't have yelled at him."

2. "This comes to my next point.. Jon had every right to fuss at Joel for biting the glow stick. That stuff could have been - and may very well be - toxic. There is a proper way to scold without promising DEATH, and at least Jon didn't follow Kate's lead on that one."


I haven't watched this episode and I don't plan to so I am trying to watch vicariously through you. Could someone please explain this to me? Did they film the scene with Joel or not? One comment states the glow stick scene is not on tape and the next person wrote that Joel was "fussed at" for eating it. I'm lost...How do you know if he was reprimanded or not if it was not shown?

Barbara in VA said...

I am sure that Kon received everything we saw in that camping episode for free. I'd love to hear about a company, even a particular store, who was approached by the Kon team to give them something or somethings for which their product would be seen on the show, who turned them down. Love to hear from someone or a company who said, uh, no, thanks, we don't want anything to do with this scam.

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